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Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was Monday, May twenty third. It was cool in
Los Angeles. We were working the night Watch out on
narcotics detail. My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Waller.
My name is Friday. We're on our way back from
questioning an informant and it was ten forty six pm
when we got to the first Street station. It's a
narcotic squadron.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Do you think Bronco's holding on on us?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know. You know, if we don't turn something
pretty soon, the stuff will be all over town. Yeah.
How about a cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Huh coffee? You want a cup? Sure? If you got some. Yeah.
I brought a thermis from home, oh may to myself
the way I like it, you know strong. I got
some cups. Wait a minute, we don't need them, Joe, Well,
I don't need them.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I got cups right here on the top of the
thermost four of them.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's some gadget. Huh. I got that.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Kids gave it to me for Christmas. Of course, pay
probably picked it. That I look at their steam really
keeps the heating. Yeah, I'll go ahead drink up.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Thanks. Does the matter something to matter? Oh? No, you
were right, that's all. What do you mean about it
being strong? Oh?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, I want coffee, I want boil water.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But this stuff's got some taste to it. It sure has. Well.
Aren't you gonna finish yours? Well, I'm not thirsty right now. Ah.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Hey, you know, Joe, I just realized something. H All
these years I've been working with you never dawned on
me before.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What's that You don't like coffee? Oh? Yes I do.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
No, you don't, Joe, not the real, genuine articles stuff
they serve in restaurants, drug stores, or that's not coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's not that.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
No, this is coffee. Yeah, a little bite to a
little ling. Yeah, you don't like it. Well, all these
years I've been working with a partner doesn't appreciate good coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, I guess you learned something. All the time, I
can't finish it if you don't want narcotics Friday. Who
oh yeah, yeah, can't he that's right? Are you still
at the same place? Sure I know where it is.
What's that room number? Okay? Goodbye, Candy Delman. Yeah, you heard.
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We were talking to Bronco tonight. Bronco tell him what
it was about. He must have lease, can'ty knows we
didn't get anywhere, huh, He says. It's our own fault
for not going to the right guy. Who's that him.
Candy Delman was an informant who had served three sentences
for violation of the State and Narcotics Act. Since his
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release from prison, he had given police officers several leads
to burglary and robbery suspects. Most of his leads had
panned out. As far as we knew. Delman was no
longer a narcotics user or a pusher himself, but in
the past he had always refused to give any information
on the Doe bracket. Over the phone, he said he
was living at the Hatrick Hotel on South Spring Street,
Room two seventeen. Frank and I left the office and
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grove out to talk to him. It was eleven twenty
two pm and we got the hotel, a dark, two
story building battling in neither repair. We went inside and
started up the stairs to the second floor.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Get back down here, both of.
Speaker 9 (05:10):
You, come on, start moving what's the trouble, lady?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Doesn't matter with guy's height?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Why don't you use it?
Speaker 10 (05:18):
Sign right here on the desk ring for the manager?
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Didn't there? No ring did it?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We didn't see any reason to bother you.
Speaker 10 (05:23):
It's my worry and it sure bells here to be
wrong and hearing that ain't what bothers mes. Guys like
you sneaking in trying to get a free pad for
the night.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Easy, lady, we don't want to stay here any longer
than we have to.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Then what do you want?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We just dropped by to see Candy. Candy Delman. He
lives here, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He might well?
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Good friend of yours.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He's expecting it. Well, why don't you ask him?
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (05:43):
Sure, that's all I gotta do. Tramp up and down
them stairs fore morning til night. Call him to the phone,
give them messages, done them for back rent. Well, I
ain't making no extra trip on.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Count of you suit yourself.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I just you wait a minute.
Speaker 10 (05:54):
I ain't said you could go upstairs claim to know Candy?
Speaker 8 (05:58):
What's his room number?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You're seventeen? That's right, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I guess so well can be sure.
Speaker 10 (06:04):
You let me know when you leave, and you better
be out of here by midnight, or I'm collecting about
from each other.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Your friends are no friends. You're not bunking with Candy Less.
They get paid in advance.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, she's hobby. You know, you know something. Joe pay
was after me just the other day about getting a
new suit. Oh, I guess she was right. She must
be down this way.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yeah, maybe you ought to go with me buy some
clothes yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
What for? Well, we must need them if it Da'm
like that? Figures we'd meet your room in this joint
and I wouldn't help with her? We are?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Joe?
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Just a minute? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Thank you? You know Frank Smith, don't you Candy?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hi, Candy.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I want to drink No, thanks Smith, No, don't wonder
if I take a blash.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's up to you.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
As long as I'm drinking alone, there's no point during
the glass.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah. I guess maybe I'm turning to a lush huh.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
All right, been hitting the bottle pretty hard lately since
I went off of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's so.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah. You guys knew I was offered, didn't you. I
ain't even chippy. No, more.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, you don't have to sell us, Candy.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
Well, I ain't selling nobody. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What do you want to see us about?
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Anybody know you're here?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Lady downstairs?
Speaker 8 (07:27):
You mean to manager this fleabag?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I guess that's what she is.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Lady.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
You asked me, and flying sauces must be real. Also,
they might that get here. Hey, she knew your cops.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
We didn't tell her.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
You telling anybody else? You're coming to see me?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, come on, Candy, what's all about? Then?
Speaker 8 (07:48):
We'll take it easy. Don't push me?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Why don't you sit down?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're all right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
He was talking to Bronco all night and well I
bumped into him right after you shoved off.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's so.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, that's gonna mule like him about h boy, he's
lucky if he can turn a couple of sticks of tea.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
We're asking everybody didn't ask me. I figured to be
a waste of time. I've helped you guys before, No,
not when it came to the stuff you didn't.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Maybe this is different.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
I always figured a guy gets hooked, that's his own business.
He's done himself. That's just getting hurt. Two years truly,
I've been hooked three times.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Guy wants to kick it, except him too, and you
can stick him in a joint seminel hospital. Maybe he'll
get rid of that happen for a while.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
But if he wants to kick it for good, he's
got to do it. Nobody else it ain't he's either.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Good.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Guy's own business is what happens, whether he goes for
a rider or gets off.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, come on, candy, what are you getting that here?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Of course you're looking for it and just going to
guys boys?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, how do you know that?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Fella asked me if I wanted to make a buy
so I was still shooting caps.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
What fella? Mm hmm, come on, we'll stand in front
of the candy.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Well, you're taking my away. You don't get it?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That mean's no.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Names, all right, give us the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well, like I said, he asked me if I was
interested in the buye, and I told him I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
He said that was okay. Within me. I had plenty
of other customers. He got a lot of thinner for
some of 'em. A pro like me, I might know
the difference.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Kids just off of the weed. They wouldn't care. He said,
it was only making me an offer is a favor.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know, did you ever buy from him before?
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Well, look, Joe, just let me tell it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Huh oh ahead.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Well, the way he talked.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
U kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Even when
I was pushing. I never sold the kids, you know that.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Ain't no saying. I never pushed no kids. Just didn't
seem right.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
So when I bumped in the Bronco tonight and he
told me that you guys were looking for age, well
I figured.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Maybe owed you a hand.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Go ahead, make you.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Feel kind of funny? What I ain't never think that
a guy in the trade before.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know that when you're out of it now, aren't you?
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
For now?
Speaker 8 (10:10):
You never know, Joe. Three times you know I've been down.
You never know when it's gonna happen again. I ain't
making no promises, even to myself.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's why I ain't never cut down or anything like
this before, or sort of like turning myself in.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
It's good age too.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's eastern.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, it's been cut, but it's not too thin. The
way you talk must have been six or eight ounces left.
Rest of it's been sore. Yeah, he can cut a
lot thinner if he wants to steal him with kids,
it don't matter.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know, where do we find him? Candy?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
You ever hear a walker? Drive Hollywood Hills?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wait, you can find it.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Well, it's not much of a street.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
It's just four or five blocks, dead end cuts off
of oil before you get the mother.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Holler, Wenna, go ahead, that's it. Well, which house?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
I ain't seen nothing about? No house? Maybe he lives there.
Maybe he's just going up to make a sale.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't know. You think he's there now?
Speaker 8 (11:05):
I didn't ask him for a time schedule. Now go
on beat it, will you? I want to get drunk.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Oh hey, look there is something about you guys that
keeps me sober.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
If you don't shove off, I'm gonna run out of booze.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You want to tell us what he looks like? Canny?
Speaker 8 (11:25):
You've had it, Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something you haven't given us
very much?
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Is that so?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well?
Speaker 8 (11:32):
You know something? It's lucky for you. I got principles
about pushing the kids.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you'd have got nothing. We continued to question Delman,
but he refused to give us any further information. Eleven
forty six pm, Frank and I left the hat Trick
Hotel and we drove up into the Hollywood Hills. We
turned off Laurel Canyon on a walk or drive. The
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street was only five blocks long, there were approximately twenty
houses on it. Twelve twenty two am, we pulled up
at the corner of Walk around Laurel, where we'd be
able to notice anybody who turned into or out of
the drive. One o six a m. A man approached
to Chevy convertible park across the street from us. We
knew he'd walk down from one of the houses on Walker,
but we hadn't been able to determine which one. He
passed under a street lamp, and we recognized him as
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Sam Free, a known narcotics user and suspected peddler.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Hold it, Sam, huh right where you are?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Hold it up?
Speaker 11 (12:29):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Sure, sure, turn around, Sam. Put your hands against the
side of the car.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
Yeah, he's clothings guys, No via, I don't carey nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Mmmm.
Speaker 11 (12:41):
Hey, Hey, what you doing in my pockets? I ain't
got no gun, you said so yourself. Oh, where the
heck did that come from?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Why don't you tell us and that's the stuff John.
We's all you got? Sam? Well is it?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're coming up in the world, aren't you. What do
you mean a couple of months ago all the way
had you paid for it? Was a user in a
small time pusher. It's a lot of age. Where'd you
get it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now you know better than that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You're in trouble. Sam.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
Okay, you've found the stuff on me? That that means
I'm gonna do sometime.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
A lot of time.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
Well, whatever it is, i'd just assume be in one
piece when I come out.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It was a car belong to Sam? What car? This
one right here? Uh? You were getting into it, Sam?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'll give it a.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Check alright, alright, I it's my car, So what I'll
still check it?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Who who said what?
Speaker 8 (13:40):
To where I was?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You're not hard to find, Sam?
Speaker 11 (13:43):
Yeah, you've You've been looking for me over three weeks now,
and so only you you didn't know I was a
guy you were aft?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Thank you what for telling us when the ages got
into town?
Speaker 11 (13:52):
A lot of good it'll do now. The day i'd
have been clean, you wouldn't have found none of it. Noah,
my own fault trying to get a good price. I
should have taken what was offered, the real stuff, though,
man don't like to give it away.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Got something, Yeah, you look in the back seat A
bunch of sweaters look like cashmeres.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I bought him for my girl.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's a birthday.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
There must be some girl at least forty sweaters there,
Joe in all different sizes.
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
We took the suspect Sam Free down to the main
jail and we had him booked on possession of narcotics
and suspicion of burglary. An examination of the labels and
the sweaters indicated that they were all from the same
white Side Ladies Sports shop in North Hollywood. One fifty
eight am. We contacted the owner of the store, mister T. P. Whiteside. Yeah, sir,
that's right, if you would, we'd appreciate it. What about
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thirty minutes?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
All right, sir, fine, thank you, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
He says they're stolen, all right, Well, why didn't he
report it? Well, he didn't know anything about it until now. Well,
it just must have happened. Tonight two twenty two am,
Frank and I met mister Whiteside at his sportswear shop
on Lancerstrom Boulevard. At the rear of the building, we
found a cut screen in a window that had been
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forced open. We called the crime lab and asked them
to check the premises for any physical evidence. Mister Whiteside
made a quick survey of his stock, and as far
as he could tell, the only missing item was a
supply of cashmere sweaters.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
I just can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
How's that, miss Whiteside, You.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Fellas find out about all this even before I did. Well,
I've done my share of complained about policemen.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
In the past, that is, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Whenever I got a ticket, I used to say to myself,
ain't he got nothing more important to do than pull
me over for going a couple of miles too fast?
That's what I said, Yes, sir, I figured that's all
you police fellows cared about, you know, giving folks tickets.
Never seemed like he was paying no attention to the
real crooks around town. Yes, oh, you're the apologies all right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Forget it?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
No, no, no, oh no, I ain't gonna forget it.
I've been wrong about cops all these years, and you
sure showed me the night apology.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's what I Well.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
You're gonna accept it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yes, sir? Shake? You bet.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
You too, mister huh you will and shake with me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh sure you bet?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Say about them sweat as you found, yes, sir, like
you to keep a couple of them for your wives girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Anyway, mister Whiteside.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
You're entitled.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It wasn't few.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I wouldn't be getting them back.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's our job.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh go on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Keep a couple anyway, won't you? Sorry, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, I would offer the reward if i'd known about
the brig Larya, Sir, we understand.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Well, it's your own fault. Nobody else is you're to
blame for it? Was that no reward?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Huh?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Didn't give me time enough.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Four oh five am, the crew from the crime lab
reporter that there was no physical evidence at the store.
Frank and I went off duty. The next afternoon, May
twenty fourth, at four to sixteen pm, we checked our
weapons at the booking counter of the city jail and
we asked to interview the prisoner, Sam Free. The booking
sergeant told us he was in sel one o four. Yeah,
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free in one o four Okay, prey in one o
fourth for interview.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Great for rent of 'em.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
M sit on, Sam, sure you ready to do some
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talking about what the stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Where'd you get it?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
And look we had a check by the lab. Sam,
Yeah it is in Mexican. It's from back east someplace.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
No kidding, Okay, I got it from back east. I
shouldn't want to loss up your scientific cats by saying different.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Is that the way you want it? On your report?
Huh uncooperative.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Ain't gonna make no difference what you guys put down.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It might Sam, Oh.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Look you want a deal, I'll I'll talk.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Otherwise, forget it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We don't make deals.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
You know that, So do you? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Look, this is your first fall, Sam, It's gonna go
hard with you. Maybe no, maybe's.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Oh you never know. I'm chinning with some of the
boys back there. They tell me things have changed.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Ni.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, case against me might not stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You wouldn't want to bet on that. What you're saying,
M just telling you what I heard. Don't you count
on it? Things haven't changed that much. Four point thirty
one pm, Frank and I went over to the Hall
of Justice to file a complaint against Free. We talked
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to Deputy District Attorney Don Avery in the complaint department
and gave him a complete statement of facts concerning Free's arrest.
Is that it? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Everything that happened.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, why what's the matter? Done something wrong with this case?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And I know you will?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Free himself said it might not stand up. We figured
he was just talking. We got the h the stolen sweaters.
What more do you need?
Speaker 13 (22:05):
Let me ask you A couple of questions. Sure, and
give me the same answer as you've given court. If
you were under a all right, free was beside this
car when you stopped him.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is that it right? That's right?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Did you place him under arrest before you searched it? Well?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Did you not? In so many words?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, we know he was a hype. He knew we
were cops. He could have figured that out.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But you didn't say you're under arrest in those words.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Smith, Well, don we didn't have anything to arrest him for,
or not until after we found the age.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Did you have any reason to suspect he was carrying dough?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, like I said, he's a user.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Yeah, and he was in the neighborhood. We knew somebody
around there was carrying.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, then you weren't looking for free in particular.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, no, The.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Way I got at the burglary hadn't been reported yet,
is that right?
Speaker 13 (22:57):
That's so finding the sweat was a surprise, Yeah, sure was. Yeah,
file on him. It may not stick.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What are you talking about, don the evidence? Well, what's
wrong with it?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
The way you got it?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
What you heard about the exclusionary ruling didn't you.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, Skipper had an assembly on it. Well, look, don
we're not lawyers, were cops.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
Sure, Well, here's the way it operates. Evidence obtained by
illegal search or seizure. It can be thrown out of court,
simple as that. Yeah, federal government has the same ruling
most of the states don't. We never have until now
before if a policeman committed an illegal search or seizure,
he could be prosecuted. Lots of times he was, but
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the evidence could still be used at the suspect's trial.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, it doesn't work that way anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Well, look, maybe I'm just thick done, but it seems
to me the only guy who's better off the criminal.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's how I see it too. Well, all right, now, look,
suppose we do pick up a guy. Maybe we aren't right,
but we think we're onto something. If he's clean, he's
not out anything except a little time I'm in trouble. Yeah,
And if he isn't we got some evidence?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Not anymore you have.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, this just don't make sense to me. Well, what
are we supposed to do from here on in?
Speaker 13 (24:10):
You want to make his search, you got to get
the guy's permission or put him under arrest. First, or
have a valid search warrant otherwise it's illegal.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Your evidence may not hold.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Let me have that again.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
If you want to make his search, you got to
get the guy's permission or put him under arrest first,
or have a valid search warrant otherwise it's illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, now let's take free for instance. Yeah, we didn't
have anything to arrest him on. As forgetting his permission
to search, well, I got a big picture of that.
There's no way of getting a search warrant drawn. Don
we didn't even know what we were looking for.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, that's the way it's gotta be from here on
any every time. There might be some exceptions. I don't know.
It's after the courts to decide.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But what if we're after somebody, a guy who's heavy. Yeah,
let's take a killer. Maybe, so we want to break in.
Were supposed to ask him if it's a right if we.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Break in, you can get a warrant.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, Well, maybe we don't know who he is. Maybe
it's four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What do you do when it comes up, you'll get
an answer.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And let's come up right now. What we got a
dope pusher here. He's been selling h to kids. We
got him made dead to rights burglary too. Now you
say he's.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Gonna get off, I didn't say for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, I don't even like to hear him. Maybe not
in a case like this.
Speaker 13 (25:13):
It's the best I can do, Joe, I didn't hand
down the ruling. If you'd arrested him first, that it'd
be different.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, and if he hadn't been carrying, he could have
slept a suit on us for false arrest.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
The only thing I can tell you get a warrant,
get permission, or arrest him first.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah. Well, there's only one thing I'm gonna tell you.
It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So just what do we do? Go back to pound beats?
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Look?
Speaker 13 (25:33):
I said, we might not be able to make it
hold up in freeze case. If we can't, you'll get
him sooner or later. You've got him pegged next time,
get to him so it'll stick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, don't worry about it. We will well tell me
one thing done before we do. Yeah, how much more
stuff is this guy gonna pedal?
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Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was Monday, May twenty third. It was cool in
Los Angeles. We were working the night Watch out on
narcotics detail. My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Waller.
My name is Friday. We're on our way back from
questioning an informant and it was ten forty six pm
when we got to the first Street station. It's a
narcotic squadron.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Do you think Bronco's holding on on us?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't know. You know, if we don't turn something
pretty soon, the stuff will be all over town. Yeah.
How about a cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Huh coffee? You want a cup? Sure? If you got some. Yeah.
I brought a thermis from home, oh may to myself
the way I like it, you know strong. I got
some cups. Wait a minute, we don't need them, Joe, Well,
I don't need them.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I got cups right here on the top of the
thermost four of them.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's some gadget. Huh. I got that.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Kids gave it to me for Christmas. Of course, pay
probably picked it. That I look at their steam really
keeps the heating. Yeah, I'll go ahead drink up.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Thanks. Does the matter something to matter? Oh? No, you
were right, that's all. What do you mean about it
being strong? Oh?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, I want coffee, I want boil water.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But this stuff's got some taste to it. It sure has. Well.
Aren't you gonna finish yours? Well, I'm not thirsty right now. Ah.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Hey, you know, Joe, I just realized something. H All
these years I've been working with you never dawned on
me before.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What's that You don't like coffee? Oh? Yes I do.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
No, you don't, Joe, not the real, genuine articles stuff
they serve in restaurants, drug stores, or that's not coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's not that.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
No, this is coffee. Yeah, a little bite to a
little ling. Yeah, you don't like it. Well, all these
years I've been working with a partner doesn't appreciate good coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, I guess you learned something. All the time, I
can't finish it if you don't want narcotics Friday. Who
oh yeah, yeah, can't he that's right? Are you still
at the same place? Sure I know where it is.
What's that room number? Okay? Goodbye, Candy Delman. Yeah, you heard.
(04:15):
We were talking to Bronco tonight. Bronco tell him what
it was about. He must have lease, can'ty knows we
didn't get anywhere, huh, He says. It's our own fault
for not going to the right guy. Who's that him.
Candy Delman was an informant who had served three sentences
for violation of the State and Narcotics Act. Since his
(04:36):
release from prison, he had given police officers several leads
to burglary and robbery suspects. Most of his leads had
panned out. As far as we knew. Delman was no
longer a narcotics user or a pusher himself, but in
the past he had always refused to give any information
on the Doe bracket. Over the phone, he said he
was living at the Hatrick Hotel on South Spring Street,
Room two seventeen. Frank and I left the office and
(04:57):
grove out to talk to him. It was eleven twenty
two pm and we got the hotel, a dark, two
story building battling in neither repair. We went inside and
started up the stairs to the second floor.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Get back down here, both of.
Speaker 9 (05:10):
You, come on, start moving what's the trouble, lady?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Doesn't matter with guy's height?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Why don't you use it?
Speaker 10 (05:18):
Sign right here on the desk ring for the manager?
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Didn't there? No ring did it?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We didn't see any reason to bother you.
Speaker 10 (05:23):
It's my worry and it sure bells here to be
wrong and hearing that ain't what bothers mes. Guys like
you sneaking in trying to get a free pad for
the night.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Easy, lady, we don't want to stay here any longer
than we have to.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Then what do you want?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We just dropped by to see Candy. Candy Delman. He
lives here, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He might well?
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Good friend of yours.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He's expecting it. Well, why don't you ask him?
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (05:43):
Sure, that's all I gotta do. Tramp up and down
them stairs fore morning til night. Call him to the phone,
give them messages, done them for back rent. Well, I
ain't making no extra trip on.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Count of you suit yourself.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I just you wait a minute.
Speaker 10 (05:54):
I ain't said you could go upstairs claim to know Candy?
Speaker 8 (05:58):
What's his room number?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You're seventeen? That's right, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (06:03):
I guess so well can be sure.
Speaker 10 (06:04):
You let me know when you leave, and you better
be out of here by midnight, or I'm collecting about
from each other.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Your friends are no friends. You're not bunking with Candy Less.
They get paid in advance.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, she's hobby. You know, you know something. Joe pay
was after me just the other day about getting a
new suit. Oh, I guess she was right. She must
be down this way.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yeah, maybe you ought to go with me buy some
clothes yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
What for? Well, we must need them if it Da'm
like that? Figures we'd meet your room in this joint
and I wouldn't help with her? We are?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Joe?
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Just a minute? Good morning?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Thank you? You know Frank Smith, don't you Candy?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hi, Candy.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I want to drink No, thanks Smith, No, don't wonder
if I take a blash.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's up to you.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
As long as I'm drinking alone, there's no point during
the glass.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah. I guess maybe I'm turning to a lush huh.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
All right, been hitting the bottle pretty hard lately since
I went off of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's so.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah. You guys knew I was offered, didn't you. I
ain't even chippy. No, more.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, you don't have to sell us, Candy.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
Well, I ain't selling nobody. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
What do you want to see us about?
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Anybody know you're here?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Lady downstairs?
Speaker 8 (07:27):
You mean to manager this fleabag?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I guess that's what she is.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Lady.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
You asked me, and flying sauces must be real. Also,
they might that get here. Hey, she knew your cops.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
We didn't tell her.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
You telling anybody else? You're coming to see me?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, come on, Candy, what's all about? Then?
Speaker 8 (07:48):
We'll take it easy. Don't push me?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Why don't you sit down?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're all right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
He was talking to Bronco all night and well I
bumped into him right after you shoved off.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's so.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, that's gonna mule like him about h boy, he's
lucky if he can turn a couple of sticks of tea.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
We're asking everybody didn't ask me. I figured to be
a waste of time. I've helped you guys before, No,
not when it came to the stuff you didn't.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Maybe this is different.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
I always figured a guy gets hooked, that's his own business.
He's done himself. That's just getting hurt. Two years truly,
I've been hooked three times.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, you should.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Guy wants to kick it, except him too, and you
can stick him in a joint seminel hospital. Maybe he'll
get rid of that happen for a while.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
But if he wants to kick it for good, he's
got to do it. Nobody else it ain't he's either.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Good.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Guy's own business is what happens, whether he goes for
a rider or gets off.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, come on, candy, what are you getting that here?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Of course you're looking for it and just going to
guys boys?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, how do you know that?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Fella asked me if I wanted to make a buy
so I was still shooting caps.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
What fella? Mm hmm, come on, we'll stand in front
of the candy.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Well, you're taking my away. You don't get it?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That mean's no.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Names, all right, give us the rest of it.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well, like I said, he asked me if I was
interested in the buye, and I told him I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
He said that was okay. Within me. I had plenty
of other customers. He got a lot of thinner for
some of 'em. A pro like me, I might know
the difference.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Kids just off of the weed. They wouldn't care. He said,
it was only making me an offer is a favor.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know, did you ever buy from him before?
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Well, look, Joe, just let me tell it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Huh oh ahead.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Well, the way he talked.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
U kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Even when
I was pushing. I never sold the kids, you know that.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Ain't no saying. I never pushed no kids. Just didn't
seem right.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
So when I bumped in the Bronco tonight and he
told me that you guys were looking for age, well
I figured.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Maybe owed you a hand.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Go ahead, make you.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Feel kind of funny? What I ain't never think that
a guy in the trade before.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know that when you're out of it now, aren't you?
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
For now?
Speaker 8 (10:10):
You never know, Joe. Three times you know I've been down.
You never know when it's gonna happen again. I ain't
making no promises, even to myself.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's why I ain't never cut down or anything like
this before, or sort of like turning myself in.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
It's good age too.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's eastern.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, it's been cut, but it's not too thin. The
way you talk must have been six or eight ounces left.
Rest of it's been sore. Yeah, he can cut a
lot thinner if he wants to steal him with kids,
it don't matter.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know, where do we find him? Candy?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
You ever hear a walker? Drive Hollywood Hills?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wait, you can find it.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Well, it's not much of a street.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
It's just four or five blocks, dead end cuts off
of oil before you get the mother.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Holler, Wenna, go ahead, that's it. Well, which house?
Speaker 8 (10:57):
I ain't seen nothing about? No house? Maybe he lives there.
Maybe he's just going up to make a sale.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't know. You think he's there now?
Speaker 8 (11:05):
I didn't ask him for a time schedule. Now go
on beat it, will you? I want to get drunk.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Oh hey, look there is something about you guys that
keeps me sober.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
If you don't shove off, I'm gonna run out of booze.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You want to tell us what he looks like? Canny?
Speaker 8 (11:25):
You've had it, Joe.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something you haven't given us
very much?
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Is that so?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well?
Speaker 8 (11:32):
You know something? It's lucky for you. I got principles
about pushing the kids.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, you'd have got nothing. We continued to question Delman,
but he refused to give us any further information. Eleven
forty six pm, Frank and I left the hat Trick
Hotel and we drove up into the Hollywood Hills. We
turned off Laurel Canyon on a walk or drive. The
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street was only five blocks long, there were approximately twenty
houses on it. Twelve twenty two am, we pulled up
at the corner of Walk around Laurel, where we'd be
able to notice anybody who turned into or out of
the drive. One o six a m. A man approached
to Chevy convertible park across the street from us. We
knew he'd walk down from one of the houses on Walker,
but we hadn't been able to determine which one. He
passed under a street lamp, and we recognized him as
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Sam Free, a known narcotics user and suspected peddler.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
Hold it, Sam, huh right where you are?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Hold it up?
Speaker 11 (12:29):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Sure, sure, turn around, Sam. Put your hands against the
side of the car.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
Yeah, he's clothings guys, No via, I don't carey nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Mmmm.
Speaker 11 (12:41):
Hey, Hey, what you doing in my pockets? I ain't
got no gun, you said so yourself. Oh, where the
heck did that come from?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Why don't you tell us and that's the stuff John.
We's all you got? Sam? Well is it?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're coming up in the world, aren't you. What do
you mean a couple of months ago all the way
had you paid for it? Was a user in a
small time pusher. It's a lot of age. Where'd you
get it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now you know better than that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You're in trouble. Sam.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
Okay, you've found the stuff on me? That that means
I'm gonna do sometime.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
A lot of time.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
Well, whatever it is, i'd just assume be in one
piece when I come out.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It was a car belong to Sam? What car? This
one right here? Uh? You were getting into it, Sam?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I'll give it a.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Check alright, alright, I it's my car, So what I'll
still check it?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Who who said what?
Speaker 8 (13:40):
To where I was?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You're not hard to find, Sam?
Speaker 11 (13:43):
Yeah, you've You've been looking for me over three weeks now,
and so only you you didn't know I was a
guy you were aft?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Thank you what for telling us when the ages got
into town?
Speaker 11 (13:52):
A lot of good it'll do now. The day i'd
have been clean, you wouldn't have found none of it. Noah,
my own fault trying to get a good price. I
should have taken what was offered, the real stuff, though,
man don't like to give it away.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Got something, Yeah, you look in the back seat A
bunch of sweaters look like cashmeres.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I bought him for my girl.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's a birthday.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
There must be some girl at least forty sweaters there,
Joe in all different sizes.
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(14:59):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
We took the suspect Sam Free down to the main
jail and we had him booked on possession of narcotics
and suspicion of burglary. An examination of the labels and
the sweaters indicated that they were all from the same
white Side Ladies Sports shop in North Hollywood. One fifty
eight am. We contacted the owner of the store, mister T. P. Whiteside. Yeah, sir,
that's right, if you would, we'd appreciate it. What about
(17:13):
thirty minutes?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
All right, sir, fine, thank you, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
He says they're stolen, all right, Well, why didn't he
report it? Well, he didn't know anything about it until now. Well,
it just must have happened. Tonight two twenty two am,
Frank and I met mister Whiteside at his sportswear shop
on Lancerstrom Boulevard. At the rear of the building, we
found a cut screen in a window that had been
(17:41):
forced open. We called the crime lab and asked them
to check the premises for any physical evidence. Mister Whiteside
made a quick survey of his stock, and as far
as he could tell, the only missing item was a
supply of cashmere sweaters.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
I just can't get over it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
How's that, miss Whiteside, You.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Fellas find out about all this even before I did. Well,
I've done my share of complained about policemen.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
In the past, that is, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Whenever I got a ticket, I used to say to myself,
ain't he got nothing more important to do than pull
me over for going a couple of miles too fast?
That's what I said, Yes, sir, I figured that's all
you police fellows cared about, you know, giving folks tickets.
Never seemed like he was paying no attention to the
real crooks around town. Yes, oh, you're the apologies all right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Forget it?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
No, no, no, oh no, I ain't gonna forget it.
I've been wrong about cops all these years, and you
sure showed me the night apology.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's what I Well.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
You're gonna accept it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yes, sir? Shake? You bet.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
You too, mister huh you will and shake with me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh sure you bet?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Say about them sweat as you found, yes, sir, like
you to keep a couple of them for your wives girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Anyway, mister Whiteside.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
You're entitled.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It wasn't few.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I wouldn't be getting them back.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's our job.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh go on.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Keep a couple anyway, won't you? Sorry, we can't do that.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, I would offer the reward if i'd known about
the brig Larya, Sir, we understand.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Well, it's your own fault. Nobody else is you're to
blame for it? Was that no reward?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Huh?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Didn't give me time enough.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Four oh five am, the crew from the crime lab
reporter that there was no physical evidence at the store.
Frank and I went off duty. The next afternoon, May
twenty fourth, at four to sixteen pm, we checked our
weapons at the booking counter of the city jail and
we asked to interview the prisoner, Sam Free. The booking
sergeant told us he was in sel one o four. Yeah,
(19:54):
free in one o four Okay, prey in one o
fourth for interview.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Great for rent of 'em.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
M sit on, Sam, sure you ready to do some
(20:27):
talking about what the stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Where'd you get it?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
And look we had a check by the lab. Sam,
Yeah it is in Mexican. It's from back east someplace.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
No kidding, Okay, I got it from back east. I
shouldn't want to loss up your scientific cats by saying different.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Is that the way you want it? On your report?
Huh uncooperative.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Ain't gonna make no difference what you guys put down.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It might Sam, Oh.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Look you want a deal, I'll I'll talk.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Otherwise, forget it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We don't make deals.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
You know that, So do you? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Look, this is your first fall, Sam, It's gonna go
hard with you. Maybe no, maybe's.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Oh you never know. I'm chinning with some of the
boys back there. They tell me things have changed.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Ni.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, case against me might not stand up.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You wouldn't want to bet on that. What you're saying,
M just telling you what I heard. Don't you count
on it? Things haven't changed that much. Four point thirty
one pm, Frank and I went over to the Hall
of Justice to file a complaint against Free. We talked
(21:41):
to Deputy District Attorney Don Avery in the complaint department
and gave him a complete statement of facts concerning Free's arrest.
Is that it? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Everything that happened.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, why what's the matter? Done something wrong with this case?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And I know you will?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Free himself said it might not stand up. We figured
he was just talking. We got the h the stolen sweaters.
What more do you need?
Speaker 13 (22:05):
Let me ask you A couple of questions. Sure, and
give me the same answer as you've given court. If
you were under a all right, free was beside this
car when you stopped him.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is that it right? That's right?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Did you place him under arrest before you searched it? Well?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Did you not? In so many words?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, we know he was a hype. He knew we
were cops. He could have figured that out.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But you didn't say you're under arrest in those words.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Smith, Well, don we didn't have anything to arrest him for,
or not until after we found the age.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Did you have any reason to suspect he was carrying dough?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, like I said, he's a user.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Yeah, and he was in the neighborhood. We knew somebody
around there was carrying.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, then you weren't looking for free in particular.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, no, The.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Way I got at the burglary hadn't been reported yet,
is that right?
Speaker 13 (22:57):
That's so finding the sweat was a surprise, Yeah, sure was. Yeah,
file on him. It may not stick.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What are you talking about, don the evidence? Well, what's
wrong with it?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
The way you got it?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
What you heard about the exclusionary ruling didn't you.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, Skipper had an assembly on it. Well, look, don
we're not lawyers, were cops.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
Sure, Well, here's the way it operates. Evidence obtained by
illegal search or seizure. It can be thrown out of court,
simple as that. Yeah, federal government has the same ruling
most of the states don't. We never have until now
before if a policeman committed an illegal search or seizure,
he could be prosecuted. Lots of times he was, but
(23:40):
the evidence could still be used at the suspect's trial.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, it doesn't work that way anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Well, look, maybe I'm just thick done, but it seems
to me the only guy who's better off the criminal.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's how I see it too. Well, all right, now, look,
suppose we do pick up a guy. Maybe we aren't right,
but we think we're onto something. If he's clean, he's
not out anything except a little time I'm in trouble. Yeah,
And if he isn't we got some evidence?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Not anymore you have.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, this just don't make sense to me. Well, what
are we supposed to do from here on in?
Speaker 13 (24:10):
You want to make his search, you got to get
the guy's permission or put him under arrest. First, or
have a valid search warrant otherwise it's illegal.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Your evidence may not hold.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Let me have that again.
Speaker 13 (24:22):
If you want to make his search, you got to
get the guy's permission or put him under arrest first,
or have a valid search warrant otherwise it's illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, now let's take free for instance. Yeah, we didn't
have anything to arrest him on. As forgetting his permission
to search, well, I got a big picture of that.
There's no way of getting a search warrant drawn. Don
we didn't even know what we were looking for.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, that's the way it's gotta be from here on
any every time. There might be some exceptions. I don't know.
It's after the courts to decide.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But what if we're after somebody, a guy who's heavy. Yeah,
let's take a killer. Maybe, so we want to break in.
Were supposed to ask him if it's a right if we.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Break in, you can get a warrant.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, Well, maybe we don't know who he is. Maybe
it's four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What do you do when it comes up, you'll get
an answer.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And let's come up right now. What we got a
dope pusher here. He's been selling h to kids. We
got him made dead to rights burglary too. Now you
say he's.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Gonna get off, I didn't say for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, I don't even like to hear him. Maybe not
in a case like this.
Speaker 13 (25:13):
It's the best I can do, Joe, I didn't hand
down the ruling. If you'd arrested him first, that it'd
be different.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, and if he hadn't been carrying, he could have
slept a suit on us for false arrest.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
The only thing I can tell you get a warrant,
get permission, or arrest him first.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah. Well, there's only one thing I'm gonna tell you.
It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So just what do we do? Go back to pound beats?
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Look?
Speaker 13 (25:33):
I said, we might not be able to make it
hold up in freeze case. If we can't, you'll get
him sooner or later. You've got him pegged next time,
get to him so it'll stick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, don't worry about it. We will well tell me
one thing done before we do. Yeah, how much more
stuff is this guy gonna pedal?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
The story you've just heard is true. The names were
changed to protect the innocent.
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