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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, the story of your abaco here is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag man.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. Two
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masked gunmen have held up a bank.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
In your city. The victims can't give you a lead
to their identity. Your job find them.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was Tuesday, June third. It was warm in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.
My partner is Frank Smith, the boss's TV detective stab Round.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
My name is Frandy. I was on my way.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Back from the street and it was eight forty seven
am when I got to the rear of the bank,
the manager's office.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Anymore take this kind of excitement, Yes, ma'am. You check
with them.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, they got the broadcast out right away, a long
shot if.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It pays off. Yeah, how much of a description.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I hope you're not saying that for my benefit. Young men,
I gave you all I could. It was hard to
see their faces with those scarves on. Maybe you could
have done better, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're not trying to say that you didn't do good, ma'am.
We understand the handicap that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You were under.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I should hope so terrible thing. I'm not a young
woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's ma'am.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Now, would you tell us just exactly what happened now,
right from the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Beginning, you mean, starting when I come in this morning.
That's man's eight o'clock, just like always. That's when I
got here, uh huh, opened the door with McKee, and
came right on in, little suspecting what was waiting for me.
I tell you, I was pretty surprised when they popped
out at me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You didn't see them at first?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Then, of course not. Do you think I would have
come in if i'd have seen him, No, ma'am, certainly not,
never would have come in.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
When did you first see the two men?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I came in and locked the door behind me, rules
saying you got to lock the door. I did, and
then I went back to the clothes closet to hang
up my coat and umbrella.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I se go ahead, kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Silly, I guess carry an umbrella on a day like this,
but I always do.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Never know, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We always kind of smirk at me for carrying one,
But whenever it rains out of a clear sky, they
don't smirk. Then I'm always the center of a crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You just bet you?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did? You go ahead with what happened? Please?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well? I hung up my umbrella and my coat, and
then I came out the main part of the bank,
right out where those two assassins were.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And that's when you saw them? Was that right?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh? No, they were kg They waited until I was
away from the aligned system. They were real sly, I see.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I walked out the tables. Do you know where the
deposit slips are out in the center out there? I
walked out, straightened up. Really isn't my job, but I
didn't have anything else to do, so I thought I'd
maybe just check and see if any of the points
needed new nives. I like an eat place, you know,
all the slips in the right place, waters all clean
and new, neat.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I split, I understand.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When did you see the thieves?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
As I was straightening up the counter, That's when they
stepped out in the open.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Where were they, ma'am over in the.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Scrow department, hiding behind the desks? I guess that's the
direction they came from.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I see now, what did they say to you?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
The big one? He looked at me with his steely
eyes and told me to be quiet and nothing would happen.
Said to be just quiet. I'm not young anymore, Sergeant.
A thing like that can be a tremendous shocks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're both of the men together at that time.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't understand well that they both come out from
behind the counter.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh, yes, the big one had a machine gun and
the other, a little scrung one had a pistol.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You're a positive the big one had a machine gun.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Listen, young man, I've seen enough movies and television to
know a machine gun when I see it, don't you
think I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Now about the pistol? Was it a revolver or automatic?
What we'll look here?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Did it look like this this gun of mine?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No, no, it wasn't like that. It was more of
the kind you see in movies, more mean looking than
that real mean looking kind of flat light.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I see it was an automatic, then, huh.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, I don't know what it was, but it was
real mean And furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised there were
real bullets in it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Not last a right now, I have to think him
out from behind the counter.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
They asked, me what time the rest of the staff
came in. M M. I told them anytime. That seemed
to make them happy. Why say that, because one of them,
the big one, turned to the little run and said,
just like clockwork, That's what he said, Just like clockwork.
I'm going to tell you something sort of a clue.
This man myself, these fellas been planning this a long time.
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They knew all about how the bank works, what time
everybody comes in and all. They even knew about the keys,
what keys, the ones to the bank door. They knew
who had them. First thing they wanted to know after
they asked about this stack was where my key was?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Do you have a key to the vall?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
No, not to the vault itself, just to the doors
in front of it, you know, the barred doors in
front of the vault door to those?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Did you give the man your key?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I didn't have much to say about it. I told
you I think they might have had real bullets in
those guns, and I wasn't about to make sure. After all,
I pay my taxes. Catching those fellows is your job,
not mind. If you want to cash a check, I
can take care of you, but I'm not about to
go out and after hid.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And no these yes, ma'am, what happened then?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You mean after I gave him the key, that's right.
Then they made me get off to one side of
the front doors and wait for the rest of the
staff as they'd come in. The hold up men would
make him get into the closet in the rear of
the bank where I hung my umbrella.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yes, ma'am, but they let you stay outside, did they?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Oh? Yes, they had me right up in front where
those guns pointed at me every second. Every second. I
guess they wanted me to act as kind of a decoy.
M Well, when the other people who work in the
bank came up to the door, they could look inside
and see me standing there that way. I guess they
thought there wasn't anything wrong. Came right in like the
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lambs to the slaughter. Next thing they knew there was
a gun in their ribs and they was locked up
in the closet.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What time did the manager come in?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Poor mister Blanton.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He's not well.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You know, he's not well at all.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yes, ma'am, we saw him out front.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Is he all right? He had an awful attack, bad heart.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, they've taken him to Georia Street Receiving Hospital.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did they find his pills?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What's that his pill?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Mister Blatton had a special kind of pills he takes
when he has an attack, some kind of explosive always
has him with him.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Did the men find him, well, I guess they did.
Or else do they have the necessary medication with him?
He's gonna be all right, just need some rest.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm glad of that, sweet man.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Mm hmm wid Or what happened when he came in, mister.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Blanton, Yes, ma'am, well, he was just about pulled right
in off the streets. He just got his key in
the door, and they practically just yanked him right in
right away. Wanda's key to the vault door. You have
to have both of 'em in order to open it.
Both of 'em have to be turned at the same time.
I see they asked him for his key. At first,
he didn't want to give it to him. Told him
to get out of his bank and to stop the foolishness.
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Just like that, he told him. I thought they were
gonna shoot him, but they didn't. I think if it
hadn't been for the big one, they would have the
scrawny one wanted to wanted to kill mister Blanton write
in cold blood.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
But the big One stopped him, said to just get
on with the job and get out of there. That's
what he said, to get out of there. That's when
mister Blaton passed out cold, right on the floor.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Attack Do you want to go ahead?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Well, I guess they just about had a fight between
themselves over that. Oh honey, mean the big one really
read the runt off, told him he was stupid for
making poor mister Blatton pass out, said that now they'd
have to wait for the combination of the safe. But
I stopped that. How that I gave him the combination?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You told him I'd open the safety six to me.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
With poor mister Blatton laying there on the floor, all
I could think about was them getting out of there.
That's all it was important.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's when they opened the safety.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Do yeah, went right over to mister Blackton and got
his key out of his pocket and unlocked the door.
By then the lock had switched off, and they just
opened up the vault and went in, cleaned it right out,
just scooped up the money and put it in the
black bag and left. First off, of course, They locked
me up in the closet with the others, and then
they left.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Who turned in the alarm?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I guess it was mister Blaton. He was laying on
the floor where he'd fell. I guess he came too
enough to get to the alarm system and turn it on.
Must have been him. Was anybody else who could have
done it?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
During the time the men were in the bank? Did
you hear them using the names?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I don't think I understand what you mean.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, did they call each other by a name at
any time?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Not that I heard?
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Is it important?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well? It did help.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I didn't hear amused any But if worse comes to worse,
so I can do something about it. Man, I've got
a couple for him.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
We obtained a complete description of the hold up pair,
and a supplemental broadcast was put out. The crime lab
crew came out to the scene and went over the
premises for physical evidence. From their investigation, we found that
the bandits had made their entrance through a rear window.
They'd sawed through the steel bars and broken the glass.
From there, they'd come in and apparently had waited for
the employees to arrive. We'd ascertained from the cashier that
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both men had worn gloves, so there was no chance
of getting any fingerprints in the dirt. On the alley pavement,
Lee Jones was able to find several good impressions of footprints.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
These were photographed and booked as evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Because of their placement, it was more than likely that
they belonged to the thieves. Also in the alley he
found several broken hacksaw blades.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
These were the books.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
They are numbers noted, and a request sent to the
manufacturer for the name of.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The store that had sold them.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
The other employees of the bank were questioned and they
verified the story and the description that we'd gotten from
the cashier. The Stat's office started to run on the
mo used and the victims were taken downtown and asked
to go through the mudbooks.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They were not able to give us an identification of
the themes.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That afternoon, at three forty seven pm, Frank and I
met back in the squad room.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Hi, Hi, how'd the stats office do when I got
the list? Right here? Eighteen possibles? Yeah, any of them
looked good. Couple skipper around No. He went over to
the Inspector's office.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Anything special I wanted to check with him, and who's
going to work with us on this thing?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well he left word Murph and Gaffney with us. We
can news pink An's dramwall if we need him.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Was Murph around.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
No, I went down to r and I he got
a hunch this might tie in with the heightst that
worked on last month. Same Mo figured he might as well.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Well, soon as he gets back, maybe he'll give us
a hand.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
With this list. Yeah, how about the bank manager anywhere there?
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And I called Georgia Street talked with doctor Sebastian. He
said Blant has been released to his own doctor. What
kind of conditions he him should be able to talk
to him tonight. I guess it was a pretty bad attack.
Sebastian said he was in rough shape. Well, let's check out.
We can tag Mirth from the hall. Scaffney with him,
he was, you want to sign this out? Yeah, I
got it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Robbery Friday, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
He's here just a minute for you, Frank, Okay, I
want to take care of the book.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, who is it? He didn't say, you just want
to talk to you. It's best Piggy, Yeah that's right.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Huh yeah, sure we can Yeah, sure we can right away.
M hmm, I want to give me that address, yescha, okay,
thank you, I have it. Yeah, bynyway, goodbye, Blanton's doctor.
You know, he says he wants to see us right away.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You know what about it?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, Blanton says he remembers that when the thieves left
the bank of customer came up to the door. You know,
he heard the big one tell the other one to
take off his mask. The customer got a good look
at both of them.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We left the office immediately and drove over to the
bank manager's home. We talked with his doctor, and we
obtained permission.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
To ask a few questions.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Blampton told us that as the two thieves had left
the bank, a woman passer by had noticed the bank
manager's keys still in the front door line. She'd stopped
and knocked at the door to notify someone in the
bank about the keys. As she did, the two hold.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Up men had taken off their masks and passed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Directly in front of her. We asked Blapton if he
knew the woman, but he said that he'd never seen
there before. We asked if it was possible that she
might be a customer of his bank. He said it
was possible that he'd just never seen there before. He
gave us a description, and we started to check with
the bank employees in the.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hopes that one of them could identify her. None of
them could.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We got out a supplemental bulletin asking if the woman
be picked up. In the meantime, Officers Murphy and Rafferty
had checked.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Out the list of possibles that the staff's office had
come up with.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
All of the names on the list either had alibis
or could establish that they were not near the bank when.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It was robbed.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We checked all that FI cards filed in the area
without results. Frank and I checked out of the office
at twelve eighteen am and went home and get some sleep.
The next day, Wednesday, June third, Frank was waiting for
me when I got to work.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Don't sit down.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We got to call him, make you know.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Murray Logan called. Remember the rental car agent out in
the valley.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh yeah, she gave us a hand on the identity
a young fellow that knocked over the liquor store out
It killed him. The menfol When I sifting for what
she got, there might be nothing, but we ought to
check it out, says to the woman who hangs around
the local bars mooch and drinks.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Never got a dime, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
She came in to see Marie yesterday afternoon. I wanted
to rent a car to drive to New York or
to leefing in.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She wanted to pay an advance.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Offered Marie brand new hundred dollar bills From.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
The statement we'd got him from the bank. We knew
that in the thirty four thousand dollars the thieves had taken,
there were several thousand dollars and one hundred dollar bills.
Frank and I signed out of the office and drove
out to the San Fernando Valley. At the corner of
Valley Hart Boulevard and Dickens, we found Marie Logan's rental agency.
There was a line of late model cars in front
of the lot, and at the rear we found a
small wooden building.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Frank knocked at the door and we waited, Yeah, oh hi.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Sue Alms Logan, Slogan, hiant, missus Smiths, come on in,
thank you, Thanky, Sure, hope, I haven't brought your guys
out here in a royal goose chase.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I hope it works out all right?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to fill up in h.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
This woman named Betty Gallaic hangs around the bars in
the neighborhood, spends her time catch and drinks real bum.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Why do you figure we might be interested?
Speaker 7 (13:28):
A couple of times she's come in to rent a
car just to you. Was around pound first.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Two times I was stuck.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
How do you mean check?
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You'd pay the deposit with a check. I'm When he
brought the car back, she'd paid the bill, bike check,
jacket bounce. Then when I'd call it, she'd come in
and pick it up and give me the cast to
cover it. That's the only reason I didn't turn it
over to you. She always stayed up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And this time she had the cash though.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, came in wanted a new Lincoln to drive in
New York.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
She just like always, she copt.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
And dress cloth coat, even had the imitation of leather
purse kind of supposed to look like real leather as
soon as you get inside ten feet? Know what Isn't
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That time?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Well, anyway, when she asked for the car, I thought
I couldn't let her have it, said I'd been stung
too many times before, so right off, she said, you
wanted to pay cash. That's when she opens his coming
purse and the door almost fell out. Must have had
a couple of thousand dollars in there, maybe more, you.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Said time on the phone, about one hundred dollar bills.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Yeah, she pulled out a couple of them to show
me she could pay cash. I asked her, well she
got him.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What'd you say to that said?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It wasn't any of my business for me. As long
as she had the money and the driver's license, I said,
ought to run of the car. I thought, I ought
to check with you.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Personally, and you got an address on this gallic woman?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, after I called this morning, I checked through the records,
got her home address and a driver's license.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Someday she got any friends?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
You know her just about on every bar stool where
she hung us, Yes, I mean anyone special? Oh, I
don't know. I saw her a couple of times with
the same guy in the place down at the corner.
Hot days. I sometimes to put down her for a bus. Well,
I've seen her there with this one guy a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
You know who he is, No, not his name.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I've seen the two of them drive away together her
a couple of times. He's got a flashy convertible. I
guess he drove it out here.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
What he means cars?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Got a New York license plas. Oh he isn't.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
That's not I had logan rental service.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah, uh huh, yeah, I know. Yeah, you sure about that? Sure? Okay? Thanks? Goodbye.
That is it. And there was a rental agency in
Hollywood called to ask me about Betty Gallick. See she
gave me as a restling. Yeah, came into their place
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and under the car from him, take cash for it?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Was she there? Now?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
No, okay, that's for New York.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
This morning, we contacted the rental agency that at least
the car to Betty Gallick. From them, we got a
description of the car and the license number, and put
out a local and an all points bullet and on
the vehicle. We got in touch with the New York
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authorities and asked them to be on the lookouts for
the car. We got the gallic woman's address from the
rental agency, and we checked out our house. We found
nothing to give us any indication as to where she
might have gone, but we did find a silk scarf
similar to the one described by the victims as having been.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Worn with the hold up man.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We checked with the neighbors, but none of them could
tell us where Betty Galliic had gone. Two days went
by while we followed down every lead that turned up.
The information from the crime lab was checked out, but
it let us know where the serial numbers on the
hacksaw blade had come back. But when we talked to
the store owner, he was unable to tell us who
had bought them. Saturday, at twelve noon, a meeting was
held in the offices of Fad Brown. Members of the
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Federal Bureau.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Of Investigation were there.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
They had agents working on the case, but they hadn't
been able to come up with any more information than
we'd got. Two fourteen pm, Frying and I got back
to the office. That's see for sure, man, will do
you blame him?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We haven't got very much.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
No.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
It seems like every time we do get lead worth
and they think it goes to nothing. It's got to
end some place. I got it robbery Friday, Yeah, we
did so it went yeah right, and I'll be right
down to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah. Thanks. By was communications. They just got away from Chicago.
They picked up the.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Gallic woman Betty Gallic had been picked up south of
Chicago and held an answer to our communication. However, when
she was picked up, she was in the company of
two other women. They were identified as her sisters. We
made arrangements to talk to her by long distance telephone.
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As soon as we started to ask her questions regarding
the bank robbery, she admitted being the driver of the
getaway car.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She told us that the theft.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Had been planned by a man she knew only his Dean.
She was unable to tell us any more about him.
She went on to say that she'd met him in
a bar in the valley, along with the other two men.
She identified these two men as Richard and Matt. She
was unable to give us their last names or tell
us any more about them. She did say, however, that
Matt was from New York and that as far as
she knew, he was there at the time. She went
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on to say that he was not with the trio
when the bank was held up. We questioned her further,
but she was unable to give us any additional information
on the three men. She did, however, tell us that
they had stayed at a motel located on Superlvid of Boulevards.
She gave us the name and the approximate location. She
was detained pending extradition in Chicago. Saturday evening, Frank and
I drove out to the motel that the Gallic woman
had mentioned.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
We rang the bell and waited.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, lights on, we got no vacancies, police officers. We
want to ask you some questions. What a boy, A
couple of men.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Who stayed here. Anybody in this place who's got trouble
with the cops.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Has to get out.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
You tell me who they are and I'll throw them
right at you.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't want no trouble now. Who you're looking for?
One of them's tall, the other short named Dean and Richard.
What about the last name? We haven't got that. I
don't need it. I know who you mean? You know sure?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Dean, Franklin, Dick Norton, A couple of no goods.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They ain't here no more. You know where they are?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I think maybe I got.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
An address in my desk. Come on in, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm Jim Allison. Well, it's Frank Smith.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
And what are the boys done?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just routine? We want to talk to him and you
won't tell me. Huh, it'll be better if we talk
to them about it. I have it your own way.
I don't want to get mixed up in anything.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Those boys got themselves a bucket of trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I want no part of it. While they was here, they.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Paid their rent, didn't cause much trouble.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
That's all I aways interested in as long as they
didn't cause any trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes, sir, how long ago they leave?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I guess bout a week ago. I got it in
the books. I can check it for you if you want, sir,
we'd like to have the information.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Sure, I'll get it for you.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They have any visitors while they were here, A couple.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Of guys come around in the morning.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's about it. They'll look like bill collectors.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The boys never let him inside.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Used to talk on the porch.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Three, I'm move out at the same time.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
No, Matt left a couple of days before, said he
was going back east. I think he had some kind
of a job back there. It wasn't real chumming, you know,
kind of kept.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It themselves all right, so it would just easy. Got
that address. What they might be always sure forgot all
about it. It's in the desk.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I think always running this kind of thing with a motel.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Sure, what's that wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
People renting rooms?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
We got no way of checking on them.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Seems like whenever somebody's got.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Trouble they pick a motel to have it and never ends.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Let's see, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Here it is.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
They left this in case I got any mail form,
so just to send it on here.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, thank you, and it's.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
A place out in West Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Thank you very much. Glad to help out.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You can't tell me what this is about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Huh No, Suir, it's police business.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Do you figure you're gonna have any trouble with him?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, it's hard to say. Depend on how they wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And if I was you, I'd take it easy picking
them up play because I know Franklin's.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Got a gun.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We obtained the license number and the description of the
cars that the suspects had driven. It was a late
model convertible with New York license plates. Before we left
the motel, we called our and I and checked the
names Dean Franklin and Richard Norton. We found that both
of them had long felony records. We talked to Captain
Donahoe and had two more teams of men sent out
from the office to meet us at the address that
we'd gotten from the motel manager. From what we knew
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was the two men taking them into custody would be difficult.
Frank and I left the motel and drove out to
the address in West Los Angeles. It was a one
story wooden building set well back on a weak filled lot.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
A late model car was in the driveway.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Ten minutes after we got their, officers, Murphy, Rapperty, Mead,
and Lightnings met us. Murphy had brought two sort off
shotguns loaded with doublet butts and several tear gas grenades.
The only chance we had of taking them in with
our bloodshed was to use the one element on our side, surprise.
Murphy and Rapperty went around to the street at the
back of the house, and Lightner.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Took the other.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
When all of us were in position, Frank and I
prepared to move up to the front door.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'll say this minute, alright, let's go. I don't say anything.
Now I might have seen this. You med take an alright, Uh,
let's make it for the porch there. Come on, okay, yeah,
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right now, I'll take the door. When we get inside.
You go to the left, I'll handle the right side right,
and I'll say, yeah, how about it?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Nothing places empty. We searched the house, but we found
no trace of the suspects. From the clothing in the closets,
we figured that they had not moved out, and going
over the house, we found a machine gun hidden in
one of the bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
The cartridge cliff was loaded.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And the gun was ready for use. We pulled the clip,
called the office and told them where we were, and
then we settled down to wait for the suspects to return.
Murphy and Rappidy covered the rear approaches to the house.
Mead and Lightner were in cars parked down the street,
and frank and I waited in the front room. At
ten forty six pm, the phone in the house rang
three times and then it stopped. We waited for Franklin
and Norton to come back. Eleven PM. Eleven thirty. It's
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cold in the house. Midnight twelve thirty the phone rang
again twelve forty five. From down the street.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We were at a car approach. Just anything, just a
minute pull. I couldn't bake mm.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And it's a Ford Sedam coming down this way. Pulled
into the driveway, and it's them, just.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The two of 'em. Ears. I can tell you they're
getting out of the car. Yeah, how about of Lightning
and me? You know they see him, they're starting to
get out of the car.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Down there, better cover the door of the coming in, right,
police officer stands.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
It ain't they was coming at you.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Hold of them. They got frank al right, Franklin, turn around.
How'd you get to us? Who told you? I put
your hands behind you?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Who told you we were here?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Somebody had to tell you? You never had got us
without somebody tipping here. It was that lush Betty, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was her?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I told you all right outside, come on, move had
to beat her.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She was the only one I knew.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Had to beat her.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You never made it without her? You're wrong, huh? We
done made it. Come on.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The story you have just heard is true. The names
were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
On November fourteenth, trial was held in Department ninety two,
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. Dean Roger Franklin, Richard Henry Norton,
and Betty Elaine Gellick were tried and convicted of robbery
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in the first degree.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Robbery in the first degree.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a
period of from five years to life. Further investigation showed
that Matthew Arthur Ross had no part or knowledge of
the crime.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You have just heard Dragnet, The Authentic Story of your
Police Force in Action and starring Jack Webb, a presentation
of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's that's
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Less susp
Ladies and gentlemen, the story of your abaco here is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag man.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. Two
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masked gunmen have held up a bank.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
In your city. The victims can't give you a lead
to their identity. Your job find them.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was Tuesday, June third. It was warm in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.
My partner is Frank Smith, the boss's TV detective stab Round.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
My name is Frandy. I was on my way.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Back from the street and it was eight forty seven
am when I got to the rear of the bank,
the manager's office.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Anymore take this kind of excitement, Yes, ma'am. You check
with them.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, they got the broadcast out right away, a long
shot if.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It pays off. Yeah, how much of a description.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I hope you're not saying that for my benefit. Young men,
I gave you all I could. It was hard to
see their faces with those scarves on. Maybe you could
have done better, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're not trying to say that you didn't do good, ma'am.
We understand the handicap that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You were under.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I should hope so terrible thing. I'm not a young
woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's ma'am.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Now, would you tell us just exactly what happened now,
right from the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Beginning, you mean, starting when I come in this morning.
That's man's eight o'clock, just like always. That's when I
got here, uh huh, opened the door with McKee, and
came right on in, little suspecting what was waiting for me.
I tell you, I was pretty surprised when they popped
out at me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You didn't see them at first?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Then, of course not. Do you think I would have
come in if i'd have seen him, No, ma'am, certainly not,
never would have come in.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
When did you first see the two men?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I came in and locked the door behind me, rules
saying you got to lock the door. I did, and
then I went back to the clothes closet to hang
up my coat and umbrella.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I se go ahead, kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Silly, I guess carry an umbrella on a day like this,
but I always do.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Never know, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
We always kind of smirk at me for carrying one,
But whenever it rains out of a clear sky, they
don't smirk. Then I'm always the center of a crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You just bet you?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did? You go ahead with what happened? Please?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well? I hung up my umbrella and my coat, and
then I came out the main part of the bank,
right out where those two assassins were.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And that's when you saw them? Was that right?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh? No, they were kg They waited until I was
away from the aligned system. They were real sly, I see.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I walked out the tables. Do you know where the
deposit slips are out in the center out there? I
walked out, straightened up. Really isn't my job, but I
didn't have anything else to do, so I thought I'd
maybe just check and see if any of the points
needed new nives. I like an eat place, you know,
all the slips in the right place, waters all clean
and new, neat.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I split, I understand.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
When did you see the thieves?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
As I was straightening up the counter, That's when they
stepped out in the open.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Where were they, ma'am over in the.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Scrow department, hiding behind the desks? I guess that's the
direction they came from.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I see now, what did they say to you?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
The big one? He looked at me with his steely
eyes and told me to be quiet and nothing would happen.
Said to be just quiet. I'm not young anymore, Sergeant.
A thing like that can be a tremendous shocks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're both of the men together at that time.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't understand well that they both come out from
behind the counter.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Oh, yes, the big one had a machine gun and
the other, a little scrung one had a pistol.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You're a positive the big one had a machine gun.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Listen, young man, I've seen enough movies and television to
know a machine gun when I see it, don't you
think I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Now about the pistol? Was it a revolver or automatic?
What we'll look here?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Did it look like this this gun of mine?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No, no, it wasn't like that. It was more of
the kind you see in movies, more mean looking than
that real mean looking kind of flat light.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I see it was an automatic, then, huh.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, I don't know what it was, but it was
real mean And furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised there were
real bullets in it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Not last a right now, I have to think him
out from behind the counter.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
They asked, me what time the rest of the staff
came in. M M. I told them anytime. That seemed
to make them happy. Why say that, because one of them,
the big one, turned to the little run and said,
just like clockwork, That's what he said, Just like clockwork.
I'm going to tell you something sort of a clue.
This man myself, these fellas been planning this a long time.
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They knew all about how the bank works, what time
everybody comes in and all. They even knew about the keys,
what keys, the ones to the bank door. They knew
who had them. First thing they wanted to know after
they asked about this stack was where my key was?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Do you have a key to the vall?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
No, not to the vault itself, just to the doors
in front of it, you know, the barred doors in
front of the vault door to those?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Did you give the man your key?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I didn't have much to say about it. I told
you I think they might have had real bullets in
those guns, and I wasn't about to make sure. After all,
I pay my taxes. Catching those fellows is your job,
not mind. If you want to cash a check, I
can take care of you, but I'm not about to
go out and after hid.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And no these yes, ma'am, what happened then?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You mean after I gave him the key, that's right.
Then they made me get off to one side of
the front doors and wait for the rest of the
staff as they'd come in. The hold up men would
make him get into the closet in the rear of
the bank where I hung my umbrella.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yes, ma'am, but they let you stay outside, did they?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Oh? Yes, they had me right up in front where
those guns pointed at me every second. Every second. I
guess they wanted me to act as kind of a decoy.
M Well, when the other people who work in the
bank came up to the door, they could look inside
and see me standing there that way. I guess they
thought there wasn't anything wrong. Came right in like the
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lambs to the slaughter. Next thing they knew there was
a gun in their ribs and they was locked up
in the closet.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What time did the manager come in?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Poor mister Blanton.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He's not well.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You know, he's not well at all.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yes, ma'am, we saw him out front.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Is he all right? He had an awful attack, bad heart.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, they've taken him to Georia Street Receiving Hospital.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did they find his pills?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What's that his pill?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Mister Blatton had a special kind of pills he takes
when he has an attack, some kind of explosive always
has him with him.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Did the men find him, well, I guess they did.
Or else do they have the necessary medication with him?
He's gonna be all right, just need some rest.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm glad of that, sweet man.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Mm hmm wid Or what happened when he came in, mister.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Blanton, Yes, ma'am, well, he was just about pulled right
in off the streets. He just got his key in
the door, and they practically just yanked him right in
right away. Wanda's key to the vault door. You have
to have both of 'em in order to open it.
Both of 'em have to be turned at the same time.
I see they asked him for his key. At first,
he didn't want to give it to him. Told him
to get out of his bank and to stop the foolishness.
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Just like that, he told him. I thought they were
gonna shoot him, but they didn't. I think if it
hadn't been for the big one, they would have the
scrawny one wanted to wanted to kill mister Blanton write
in cold blood.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
But the big One stopped him, said to just get
on with the job and get out of there. That's
what he said, to get out of there. That's when
mister Blaton passed out cold, right on the floor.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Attack Do you want to go ahead?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Well, I guess they just about had a fight between
themselves over that. Oh honey, mean the big one really
read the runt off, told him he was stupid for
making poor mister Blatton pass out, said that now they'd
have to wait for the combination of the safe. But
I stopped that. How that I gave him the combination?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You told him I'd open the safety six to me.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
With poor mister Blatton laying there on the floor, all
I could think about was them getting out of there.
That's all it was important.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's when they opened the safety.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Do yeah, went right over to mister Blackton and got
his key out of his pocket and unlocked the door.
By then the lock had switched off, and they just
opened up the vault and went in, cleaned it right out,
just scooped up the money and put it in the
black bag and left. First off, of course, They locked
me up in the closet with the others, and then
they left.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Who turned in the alarm?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I guess it was mister Blaton. He was laying on
the floor where he'd fell. I guess he came too
enough to get to the alarm system and turn it on.
Must have been him. Was anybody else who could have
done it?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
During the time the men were in the bank? Did
you hear them using the names?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I don't think I understand what you mean.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, did they call each other by a name at
any time?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Not that I heard?
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Is it important?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well? It did help.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I didn't hear amused any But if worse comes to worse,
so I can do something about it. Man, I've got
a couple for him.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
We obtained a complete description of the hold up pair,
and a supplemental broadcast was put out. The crime lab
crew came out to the scene and went over the
premises for physical evidence. From their investigation, we found that
the bandits had made their entrance through a rear window.
They'd sawed through the steel bars and broken the glass.
From there, they'd come in and apparently had waited for
the employees to arrive. We'd ascertained from the cashier that
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both men had worn gloves, so there was no chance
of getting any fingerprints in the dirt. On the alley pavement,
Lee Jones was able to find several good impressions of footprints.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
These were photographed and booked as evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Because of their placement, it was more than likely that
they belonged to the thieves. Also in the alley he
found several broken hacksaw blades.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
These were the books.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
They are numbers noted, and a request sent to the
manufacturer for the name of.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The store that had sold them.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
The other employees of the bank were questioned and they
verified the story and the description that we'd gotten from
the cashier. The Stat's office started to run on the
mo used and the victims were taken downtown and asked
to go through the mudbooks.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They were not able to give us an identification of
the themes.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That afternoon, at three forty seven pm, Frank and I
met back in the squad room.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Hi, Hi, how'd the stats office do when I got
the list? Right here? Eighteen possibles? Yeah, any of them
looked good. Couple skipper around No. He went over to
the Inspector's office.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Anything special I wanted to check with him, and who's
going to work with us on this thing?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Well he left word Murph and Gaffney with us. We
can news pink An's dramwall if we need him.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Was Murph around.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
No, I went down to r and I he got
a hunch this might tie in with the heightst that
worked on last month. Same Mo figured he might as well.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Well, soon as he gets back, maybe he'll give us
a hand.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
With this list. Yeah, how about the bank manager anywhere there?
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And I called Georgia Street talked with doctor Sebastian. He
said Blant has been released to his own doctor. What
kind of conditions he him should be able to talk
to him tonight. I guess it was a pretty bad attack.
Sebastian said he was in rough shape. Well, let's check out.
We can tag Mirth from the hall. Scaffney with him,
he was, you want to sign this out? Yeah, I
got it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Robbery Friday, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
He's here just a minute for you, Frank, Okay, I
want to take care of the book.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, who is it? He didn't say, you just want
to talk to you. It's best Piggy, Yeah that's right.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Huh yeah, sure we can Yeah, sure we can right away.
M hmm, I want to give me that address, yescha, okay,
thank you, I have it. Yeah, bynyway, goodbye, Blanton's doctor.
You know, he says he wants to see us right away.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You know what about it?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, Blanton says he remembers that when the thieves left
the bank of customer came up to the door. You know,
he heard the big one tell the other one to
take off his mask. The customer got a good look
at both of them.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We left the office immediately and drove over to the
bank manager's home. We talked with his doctor, and we
obtained permission.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
To ask a few questions.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Blampton told us that as the two thieves had left
the bank, a woman passer by had noticed the bank
manager's keys still in the front door line. She'd stopped
and knocked at the door to notify someone in the
bank about the keys. As she did, the two hold.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Up men had taken off their masks and passed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Directly in front of her. We asked Blapton if he
knew the woman, but he said that he'd never seen
there before. We asked if it was possible that she
might be a customer of his bank. He said it
was possible that he'd just never seen there before. He
gave us a description, and we started to check with
the bank employees in the.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hopes that one of them could identify her. None of
them could.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We got out a supplemental bulletin asking if the woman
be picked up. In the meantime, Officers Murphy and Rafferty
had checked.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Out the list of possibles that the staff's office had
come up with.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
All of the names on the list either had alibis
or could establish that they were not near the bank when.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It was robbed.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We checked all that FI cards filed in the area
without results. Frank and I checked out of the office
at twelve eighteen am and went home and get some sleep.
The next day, Wednesday, June third, Frank was waiting for
me when I got to work.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Don't sit down.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We got to call him, make you know.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Murray Logan called. Remember the rental car agent out in
the valley.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh yeah, she gave us a hand on the identity
a young fellow that knocked over the liquor store out
It killed him. The menfol When I sifting for what
she got, there might be nothing, but we ought to
check it out, says to the woman who hangs around
the local bars mooch and drinks.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Never got a dime, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
She came in to see Marie yesterday afternoon. I wanted
to rent a car to drive to New York or
to leefing in.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She wanted to pay an advance.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Offered Marie brand new hundred dollar bills From.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
The statement we'd got him from the bank. We knew
that in the thirty four thousand dollars the thieves had taken,
there were several thousand dollars and one hundred dollar bills.
Frank and I signed out of the office and drove
out to the San Fernando Valley. At the corner of
Valley Hart Boulevard and Dickens, we found Marie Logan's rental agency.
There was a line of late model cars in front
of the lot, and at the rear we found a
small wooden building.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Frank knocked at the door and we waited, Yeah, oh hi.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Sue Alms Logan, Slogan, hiant, missus Smiths, come on in,
thank you, Thanky, Sure, hope, I haven't brought your guys
out here in a royal goose chase.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I hope it works out all right?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to fill up in h.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
This woman named Betty Gallaic hangs around the bars in
the neighborhood, spends her time catch and drinks real bum.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Why do you figure we might be interested?
Speaker 7 (13:28):
A couple of times she's come in to rent a
car just to you. Was around pound first.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Two times I was stuck.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
How do you mean check?
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You'd pay the deposit with a check. I'm When he
brought the car back, she'd paid the bill, bike check,
jacket bounce. Then when I'd call it, she'd come in
and pick it up and give me the cast to
cover it. That's the only reason I didn't turn it
over to you. She always stayed up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And this time she had the cash though.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, came in wanted a new Lincoln to drive in
New York.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
She just like always, she copt.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
And dress cloth coat, even had the imitation of leather
purse kind of supposed to look like real leather as
soon as you get inside ten feet? Know what Isn't
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That time?
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Well, anyway, when she asked for the car, I thought
I couldn't let her have it, said I'd been stung
too many times before, so right off, she said, you
wanted to pay cash. That's when she opens his coming
purse and the door almost fell out. Must have had
a couple of thousand dollars in there, maybe more, you.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Said time on the phone, about one hundred dollar bills.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Yeah, she pulled out a couple of them to show
me she could pay cash. I asked her, well she
got him.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What'd you say to that said?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It wasn't any of my business for me. As long
as she had the money and the driver's license, I said,
ought to run of the car. I thought, I ought
to check with you.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Personally, and you got an address on this gallic woman?
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, after I called this morning, I checked through the records,
got her home address and a driver's license.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Someday she got any friends?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
You know her just about on every bar stool where
she hung us, Yes, I mean anyone special? Oh, I
don't know. I saw her a couple of times with
the same guy in the place down at the corner.
Hot days. I sometimes to put down her for a bus. Well,
I've seen her there with this one guy a couple
of times.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
You know who he is, No, not his name.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I've seen the two of them drive away together her
a couple of times. He's got a flashy convertible. I
guess he drove it out here.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
What he means cars?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Got a New York license plas. Oh he isn't.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
That's not I had logan rental service.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah, uh huh, yeah, I know. Yeah, you sure about that? Sure? Okay? Thanks? Goodbye.
That is it. And there was a rental agency in
Hollywood called to ask me about Betty Gallick. See she
gave me as a restling. Yeah, came into their place
(15:33):
and under the car from him, take cash for it?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Was she there? Now?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
No, okay, that's for New York.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
This morning, we contacted the rental agency that at least
the car to Betty Gallick. From them, we got a
description of the car and the license number, and put
out a local and an all points bullet and on
the vehicle. We got in touch with the New York
(15:58):
authorities and asked them to be on the lookouts for
the car. We got the gallic woman's address from the
rental agency, and we checked out our house. We found
nothing to give us any indication as to where she
might have gone, but we did find a silk scarf
similar to the one described by the victims as having been.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Worn with the hold up man.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We checked with the neighbors, but none of them could
tell us where Betty Galliic had gone. Two days went
by while we followed down every lead that turned up.
The information from the crime lab was checked out, but
it let us know where the serial numbers on the
hacksaw blade had come back. But when we talked to
the store owner, he was unable to tell us who
had bought them. Saturday, at twelve noon, a meeting was
held in the offices of Fad Brown. Members of the
(16:36):
Federal Bureau.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Of Investigation were there.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
They had agents working on the case, but they hadn't
been able to come up with any more information than
we'd got. Two fourteen pm, Frying and I got back
to the office. That's see for sure, man, will do
you blame him?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We haven't got very much.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
No.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
It seems like every time we do get lead worth
and they think it goes to nothing. It's got to
end some place. I got it robbery Friday, Yeah, we
did so it went yeah right, and I'll be right
down to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah. Thanks. By was communications. They just got away from Chicago.
They picked up the.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Gallic woman Betty Gallic had been picked up south of
Chicago and held an answer to our communication. However, when
she was picked up, she was in the company of
two other women. They were identified as her sisters. We
made arrangements to talk to her by long distance telephone.
(17:34):
As soon as we started to ask her questions regarding
the bank robbery, she admitted being the driver of the
getaway car.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She told us that the theft.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Had been planned by a man she knew only his Dean.
She was unable to tell us any more about him.
She went on to say that she'd met him in
a bar in the valley, along with the other two men.
She identified these two men as Richard and Matt. She
was unable to give us their last names or tell
us any more about them. She did say, however, that
Matt was from New York and that as far as
she knew, he was there at the time. She went
(18:01):
on to say that he was not with the trio
when the bank was held up. We questioned her further,
but she was unable to give us any additional information
on the three men. She did, however, tell us that
they had stayed at a motel located on Superlvid of Boulevards.
She gave us the name and the approximate location. She
was detained pending extradition in Chicago. Saturday evening, Frank and
I drove out to the motel that the Gallic woman
had mentioned.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
We rang the bell and waited.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, lights on, we got no vacancies, police officers. We
want to ask you some questions. What a boy, A
couple of men.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Who stayed here. Anybody in this place who's got trouble
with the cops.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Has to get out.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
You tell me who they are and I'll throw them
right at you.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't want no trouble now. Who you're looking for?
One of them's tall, the other short named Dean and Richard.
What about the last name? We haven't got that. I
don't need it. I know who you mean? You know sure?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Dean, Franklin, Dick Norton, A couple of no goods.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They ain't here no more. You know where they are?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I think maybe I got.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
An address in my desk. Come on in, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm Jim Allison. Well, it's Frank Smith.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
And what are the boys done?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just routine? We want to talk to him and you
won't tell me. Huh, it'll be better if we talk
to them about it. I have it your own way.
I don't want to get mixed up in anything.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Those boys got themselves a bucket of trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I want no part of it. While they was here, they.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Paid their rent, didn't cause much trouble.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
That's all I aways interested in as long as they
didn't cause any trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes, sir, how long ago they leave?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I guess bout a week ago. I got it in
the books. I can check it for you if you want, sir,
we'd like to have the information.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Sure, I'll get it for you.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They have any visitors while they were here, A couple.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Of guys come around in the morning.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's about it. They'll look like bill collectors.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The boys never let him inside.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Used to talk on the porch.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Three, I'm move out at the same time.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
No, Matt left a couple of days before, said he
was going back east. I think he had some kind
of a job back there. It wasn't real chumming, you know,
kind of kept.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It themselves all right, so it would just easy. Got
that address. What they might be always sure forgot all
about it. It's in the desk.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I think always running this kind of thing with a motel.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Sure, what's that wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
People renting rooms?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
We got no way of checking on them.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Seems like whenever somebody's got.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Trouble they pick a motel to have it and never ends.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Let's see, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Here it is.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
They left this in case I got any mail form,
so just to send it on here.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, thank you, and it's.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
A place out in West Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Thank you very much. Glad to help out.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You can't tell me what this is about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Huh No, Suir, it's police business.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Do you figure you're gonna have any trouble with him?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, it's hard to say. Depend on how they wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And if I was you, I'd take it easy picking
them up play because I know Franklin's.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Got a gun.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We obtained the license number and the description of the
cars that the suspects had driven. It was a late
model convertible with New York license plates. Before we left
the motel, we called our and I and checked the
names Dean Franklin and Richard Norton. We found that both
of them had long felony records. We talked to Captain
Donahoe and had two more teams of men sent out
from the office to meet us at the address that
we'd gotten from the motel manager. From what we knew
(20:44):
was the two men taking them into custody would be difficult.
Frank and I left the motel and drove out to
the address in West Los Angeles. It was a one
story wooden building set well back on a weak filled lot.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
A late model car was in the driveway.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Ten minutes after we got their, officers, Murphy, Rapperty, Mead,
and Lightnings met us. Murphy had brought two sort off
shotguns loaded with doublet butts and several tear gas grenades.
The only chance we had of taking them in with
our bloodshed was to use the one element on our side, surprise.
Murphy and Rapperty went around to the street at the
back of the house, and Lightner.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Took the other.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
When all of us were in position, Frank and I
prepared to move up to the front door.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'll say this minute, alright, let's go. I don't say anything.
Now I might have seen this. You med take an alright, Uh,
let's make it for the porch there. Come on, okay, yeah,
(21:50):
right now, I'll take the door. When we get inside.
You go to the left, I'll handle the right side right,
and I'll say, yeah, how about it?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Nothing places empty. We searched the house, but we found
no trace of the suspects. From the clothing in the closets,
we figured that they had not moved out, and going
over the house, we found a machine gun hidden in
one of the bedrooms.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
The cartridge cliff was loaded.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And the gun was ready for use. We pulled the clip,
called the office and told them where we were, and
then we settled down to wait for the suspects to return.
Murphy and Rappidy covered the rear approaches to the house.
Mead and Lightner were in cars parked down the street,
and frank and I waited in the front room. At
ten forty six pm, the phone in the house rang
three times and then it stopped. We waited for Franklin
and Norton to come back. Eleven PM. Eleven thirty. It's
(22:49):
cold in the house. Midnight twelve thirty the phone rang
again twelve forty five. From down the street.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We were at a car approach. Just anything, just a
minute pull. I couldn't bake mm.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And it's a Ford Sedam coming down this way. Pulled
into the driveway, and it's them, just.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The two of 'em. Ears. I can tell you they're
getting out of the car. Yeah, how about of Lightning
and me? You know they see him, they're starting to
get out of the car.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Down there, better cover the door of the coming in, right,
police officer stands.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
It ain't they was coming at you.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Hold of them. They got frank al right, Franklin, turn around.
How'd you get to us? Who told you? I put
your hands behind you?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Who told you we were here?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Somebody had to tell you? You never had got us
without somebody tipping here. It was that lush Betty, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was her?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I told you all right outside, come on, move had
to beat her.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
She was the only one I knew.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Had to beat her.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You never made it without her? You're wrong, huh? We
done made it. Come on.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The story you have just heard is true. The names
were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
On November fourteenth, trial was held in Department ninety two,
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. Dean Roger Franklin, Richard Henry Norton,
and Betty Elaine Gellick were tried and convicted of robbery
(24:31):
in the first degree.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Robbery in the first degree.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a
period of from five years to life. Further investigation showed
that Matthew Arthur Ross had no part or knowledge of
the crime.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You have just heard Dragnet, The Authentic Story of your
Police Force in Action and starring Jack Webb, a presentation
of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's that's
Speaker 6 (25:38):
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