September 24, 2023 • 48 mins
In this episode of Dumb and Delicious, we have the talented Rijul Kathuria, or "RJ" as our guest. RJ is a Toronto-based filmmaker and a friend of Gaetano. The two gentlemen talk about their experience in the entertainment industry and how hard, but rewarding the work can be.
"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go with people"
Make sure to follow RJ on these platforms:
https://www.rjproductions.ca/https://www.instagram.com/_rijulk/
https://www.youtube.com/@RijulKathuria
Make sure to follow us on Instagram @dumbanddelicious. That's where y'all can stay updated on new content and send us questions for future episodes! We love you all <3 :)
"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go with people"
Make sure to follow RJ on these platforms:
https://www.rjproductions.ca/https://www.instagram.com/_rijulk/
https://www.youtube.com/@RijulKathuria
Make sure to follow us on Instagram @dumbanddelicious. That's where y'all can stay updated on new content and send us questions for future episodes! We love you all <3 :)
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Welcome everyone back to another episode ofDumb End. Let's just the Podcast hosted
by Guy Paratory and Jack Hamilton.My name is Guy, and this pleasant
afternoon. Jack is very busy,so we have our lovely guest on for
today. His name is r J. We met through Humber Colleges production of
Private Eye and Apple Pie in twentytwenty one. He is a filmmaker extraordinaire.
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R J. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
It's been a minute. Bro,you look sexy. It's been a minute,
Bro, he looks sexy. Bro, we've both got the good facial
are going now? Right? Ohmy god, it's been a minute.
How you been? How you beenthe last two years? I think I've
been good. A lot, alot of stuff's happening, a lot of
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projects has been working on. Doyou think you're saying earlier that you have
your own production company and everything now? So I see that's popping off.
That's awesome, Thank you. Yeah. I just trying to make it work,
just thriving, thriving, whatever youwant. College is making it work.
Hey man. It's it's a hustleup there, that's all. And
that's what we like to talk aboutit on here, just like the hustle,
the motivation, a little bit ofthe work ethic. Yeah, Like
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I was saying, our d andI made each other on set few years
ago. I was acting and hewas you're you camera op or what were
you doing? Yeah? I wason camera camera that's awesome. Yeah,
And we just kind of fooled aroundand sucked around on set and got really
friendly really quickly. It was afun time during peak COVID. Plus we
got shutting down too, if youremember that. Yeah, I remember that
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as well. But we were donefilming at that point, right, I
think, No, we had oneday left. Oh fuck oh yeah,
it was like a month later.We had to we had to wait a
whole month or a month and abit and then something like that, something
finally reshot the last like a fewsee last few shots or whatever that was.
I was first remember. Yeah.That was also like in the middle
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of winters, not only as COVIDbut also like get commuting there, driving
there, et cetera. It's likeso cold and snowing, and we may
work and the result was awesome.Personally myself, I look at it like
it was a great by the way, production was insane, insane from what
I've seen another student productions, theproduction quality was awesome. But for me,
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I look back at it and Icringe at my acting because it's been
two years I've worked on my craft. I've graduated as well. You've graduated
as well, right, you graduated. No, I dropped a couple of
courses to make time for like workand business. So I'm going back this
January to finish school. Fair enough, fair enough, but again, like
you gotta pay bills and honestly,like, I don't know about you,
(02:34):
but for me, I'm more ofa work person. I don't I'm not
really much of an academic. I'mgrateful I got the degree, but at
the end of the day, I'mI like to stay busy in terms of
work, not not doing homework,not doing projects that I'll never care about
in the future, and this andthat. It's but at the end of
the day, when you're in thisindustry, it's all about connections, So
I think that's what's most valuable.But yeah, we made each other through
(02:59):
on set and had a fun time, became friends, and uh yeah,
now we're here two years later,you're your production company. I got my
acting gigs that are coming in hereand there. I'm working as a full
time server. But yeah, soI have some questions for your jay that
prepared a little bit kind of interviewstyle, you know, relax, chill,
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we're just kind of talking about andyeah, you can feel free to
give me short answers long answers.The stage is yours or in this regard,
in this case, the microphone isyours. But yeah, so the
first one I wanted to give youis who or what inspires you? And
this could be related to filmmaking,or this could be related to everyday life.
(03:45):
It's more of a general question.So if you want to give a
little Alberts answer, feel free to. If you want to give more general
answer, feel free to. Butwe do have another question later, which
is what is someone Who is someonethat you look up to in the field.
So you can kind of answer both, or you can can answer this
one and then answered the next questionlater. But yeah, who or what
inspires you? Okay, I'll refrainfrom talking about who too much to save
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it for the next question, butI'd say what inspires me is I think
a little bit of life or juststuff in general. I'm still trying to
figure stuff out. Obviously I'm notthat old, unfortunately. Yeah we're both
young. Yeah, so still tryingto find my way and stuff. But
I think more the more I delveinto filmmaking and just stuff in general and
growing up and maturing, just allthis stuff around me inspires me. Like,
(04:33):
for example, I was having likeserial a couple of weeks ago,
and I saw this light streak onmy living room floor and I'm like,
oh shit, that's cool. That'slike a nice hard source of lighting.
And then I decided to make somethingfrom it. I haven't made it yet
because I've been kind of busy,but that's like an example of just random
shit that could inspire me. Besidesthat, I'd just say communities that I'm
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part of, people friends. Trynot to get into names or anything,
so I can say for that thatnext question. But I just say I
think everything inspires me to a certainextent. Every blink creates another opportunity for
creativity. Yes, I love thattrade trade trade right there, right down,
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post it on a billboard. Whatbang, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah, But then I mean onthe same premise that then I might
as well asking the next one whois someone that you look up to in
the field. All right, thereare a lot of people. So if
I don't mention, you don't takethis personally. But I'd say starting off
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would be my film mentor Brandon Fraser. He's a creative director DP. He
works at a production company. Nowfund him through Instagram, through connections and
actual in turn or coopt with himduring my third or final year of Humber
And yeah, I just connected withhim through that. I learned a lot
in terms of filmmaking and business andwe stay connected. We'll still work with
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him like once a month or everytwo months or so personal or production wise.
And yeah, we're like close friends. So there's one person. A
couple other are another person I've foundthrough its filmmaking. His name's Kofi.
He's a big time YouTuber now hegot past twenty subscribers, and yeah,
he's one of my boys. Ilearned a lot from him and filmmaking,
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end business and just life in general. Who else, Let's say Mark Boone
and the art of documentary community.It's just a filmmaking community based on documentary
creators. I just I found himthrough second year that semester before we did
our stuff because of that first semester, we're supposed to make a documentary.
So I searched up how to makea documentary on YouTube and I found him
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and yeah, I've just been inthat community. I've met him, met
so many people, made so manyprojects that community. And I don't have
the hat right now, it's inmy car. But yeah, Abodi's like
one of the best communities I've beenpart of. And yeah, there's like
a ship send more people, butI don't think we have time for me
to talk about everyone, but thoseare the main community is going to create
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a legend. The community is goingto create a hero. A hero doesn't
just come out of nowhere, rightexactly. It's all if you want to
work hard, if you want tobe successful. Everyone's like, oh,
I gotta work on yourself. Yougotta working yourself. That's true. But
if you don't got that support system, if you don't have that community,
they'll you know, the little villageto help you out. It's hard,
man, it's fucking tough on yourown. It's not possible, but it
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definitely helps. And I can Ican understand and sympathize with, you know,
empathize sorry with the people that helpcreate who we are today. So
that's that's beautiful. I love thatexactly. I'll drow up a quote real
quick because so I can match withyou. It's go for it, yahol
is it? If you want togo fast, go alone. But if
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you want to go far, gowith people. I think that's I think
what it was. I think Imessed up the ending, but that's the
gist of it, which I've beentrying to do a lot more nowadays.
I love that. If you wantto go fast, go alone. If
you want to go far, gowith people. That's awesome. That's so
true as well too, because youcan go fast and succeed. Again,
it's not possible, but if yougo too fast with not a lot of
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people helping you out, you couldcrash and burn. Right, Yeah,
exactly. Fuck, that's a goodone. I like that. Yeah,
that's a really good one. I'mgonna put that in our little bio'll buy
out the description of this episode.That's good. I like that. I
like that. Fuck with that well, also kind of on that Line's that?
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The next question I got for you, r J, is what got
you interested in filmmaking? All Right? This is a realization I've had actually
in the last couple of weeks.Of course, I've always been a creative
kid, but going up in likethe early two thousands in the system in
North America, like that creativity kindof gets pushed out of you because there
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it's like you're the weird kid.So like I used to like write stories,
make content, like before, contentwas the thing I used to do,
all that creative ship. But growingup through elementary school and middle school
and all that, it's like,no, let's go to play sports,
don't go to music class, don'tdo this this that, Let's go play
sports or do all the cool shit. And it was pretty cool because I
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enjoyed it, but I kind offorgot all the creative stuff. I was
still doing it, but not asmuch. And then I went to IB
program for the first two years ofhigh school, which is like for super
super smart kids. So I'm stillfriends with a lot of them there,
but it just it wasn't for meintellectually. It just that's not how I
learned, that's not that's not howI process things, and my grades were
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showing them. My parents would like, get, what the fuck's wrong with
you? They don't actually say that, but like kind of so. And
then just because of how that wasgoing, I was like, I can't
do this, and I switched overto school nearby my house, which was
focused on information and communication and technologythrough the SHSM program, and I didn't
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know that was a thing, butyeah, through that, I got into
classes like graphics, video, likeall like the more creative stuff, and
my grades just skyrocketed. Not tosay grades really matter, but it's just
like I was excelling in the rightenvironments. So probably also like you're also
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working on something that you actually enjoyed. It wasn't feel like homework. I
felt like a burst or a dooryou open that you can just release all
this creative energy into, exactly likebeing back in my IB school. Like
I'd get home around seven or eightpm and I'd hate life, and then
I would be here like rendering projectsuntil seven or eight pm. I'm like,
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okay, I'm just I'm just havingfun. So that's like the difference
I had there. And once Ifigured that out, like I decided to
go to film school, which iswhere I met this sexy man guy.
And I'm not done film school yetunfortunately, but it helped me see like
how professionals work and how stuff asit stuff is at a higher level.
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And the reason I say that isthrough like high school, through all that,
I was still freelancing, I guess, and making videos and shit on
my own because I always had likesome business part of me somehow. So
I went to film school. Irealized that still been freelancing, and I
kind of just got into it.That's kind of a long answer, but
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to make it shorter, it's likeI always had it, I just have
to rEFInd it. Yeah, andalso, and I also like everybody learns
at a different level. Everybody wantsto experience things earlier or later, et
cetera. Like you decided that,hey, I want to drop a few
courses. I want to get morehands on work. I want to be
mentored. I want to see moredeep and the real behind the scenes of
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what it's like in the actual industryversus just stay in a classroom being lectured
to doing homework, filling out likeforms and whatever all that shit. You
were like, I want to getthe hands on experience, and but you
already knew though. You're like,I can go back to class, I
can go and finish this. It'snot there's no rush per se, but
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while you're young and you want toyou want to create a more solid foundation,
not saying not saying that the programthat you're in are bad or anything.
But again, like you said,everyone learns differently, and it might
not be how you learn, itmight be how you learn better. There's
always theory versus practical and there's awhole realm around that. But yeah,
I know, I totally actually commendyou for that. I wish I had
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the balls to do that when Iwas in university, but for me,
I was more head down, justfinish it, you know, enjoy what
I can, but finish it assoon as possible in the four years and
then get out and immediately start working. And That's what I've been doing.
But I mean so in a ina comparative scenario, you're actually more ahead
of me in industry experience. That'swhy I commend you for that, and
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I respect you for that. Thankyou. But going along that, what
I've realized, both in the goodway and hard way, is that each
person is on their own timeline andthe schedule. So don't be comparing yourself
to me. Compare yourself to yourselfit's really hard to say that because I
always try not to do that.But you know, we see people on
your stories it's always working, alwaysdoing this, being where you want to
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be, and it's like, youknow, shit, man, it's hard.
It's hard not to compare yourself,right, It's it's considered unhealthy,
but it's not. It's not notnormal. It gets normal to compare yourself
to others. It's just you can'tdig yourself a hole and bare yourself into
this pit of like I'm jealous andthis and that, like it's good to
look at it and you're like,oh, I'm jealous, it's going to
motivate me more versus I'm jealous.I feel like a piece of shit because
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I'm not at that levely yet.It's like, dude, like you said,
everyone's on their own time, nomatter what field you work in,
everybody works at their own pace.Yeah. So, and I'm a big
believer just working. Like the pointyou said, like one second process information,
Okay, so there you go.It's just working at it. Because
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a couple of weeks after we didour thing, I was selected to be
a DP for a different studio drama. If you remember do you remember Elliott
as our RDP for Private Eye,So I basically did what he did for
a different one and I didn't havelike lighting or I only had camera experience,
So I dped on another studio dramaand it looked like shit, Yeah,
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it was pretty bad, like comparedto Private Eye, because we I
went from like the best drama tothe class to like not knowing what the
fuck I'm doing just because the lackof experience said that could have been whoever.
But the thing that I'm most proudof myself and happy like I had
help and then also I realized howbad I was, and not even two
years later, I look back onthem, like, if that didn't happen
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and I didn't like see myself beingbad, I wouldn't want to improve and
be better, to make those stepsto be better. Yeah, you'd be
like a project or two behind ofhow good you are now, Like you're
always going to better yourself. There'sno such thing as being perfect or the
like, you can be the best, but it doesn't mean you're perfect.
So I know you can you can, you can, you can run,
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but it doesn't mean you're going tofinish a finish first at the end of
the race, right, so likeyou can always do better. And that's
what I was stactually talking to witha buddy of mine, Darryl, who
was on set with a few weeksago for a gig. He helped me
this morning with revamping my MANU profile, my casting workbook and all that stuff,
and he's just like, yeah,man, like it's it's a tough
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industry, and but as long asyou show the effort that you want to
put into it, and like youknow you're you're trying your hardest, you
can like casting directors whoever like cansee, producers can see that you're putting
in the effort. You could alwaysbe better, and you're gonna have to
do those projects that you look lookback on and you cringe, like I
was saying, like I like theproduction value of Private Eye Alpie so phenomenally
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like high, but my acting qualitywas not terrible, but it was not
good. I didn't like it toomuch, Like there was there was so
many times I would like a shotwould come in and I'm in and I'm
like, oh, I'm just cringing, Like fuck, man, I should
have there, it should be morebounded. I should have focused more like
I should have done more, gonemore in depth of actioning of the text,
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which is like putting verbs to certainwords and like whatever. But the
only reason that I know this nowis because I did those things right.
You look back and you reflect andyour reference. Okay, this is where
I can build it from the zuckI can improve. But if there's no
foundation, there's nothing there that tostart with, you're just gonna think you're
good right off the get go.And that's not how it works, right
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exactly. If you're not, Ifyou don't look back at your previous self
and cringe or feel bad or somethingin like a negative ish way, it's
like then you don't have any progress. So yeah, yeah, and then
I so what The next question Igot for you was, what's been a
recent project you've worked on that youthoroughly enjoyed? And it could be enjoyed
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as you get a fun time,or it could be enjoyed as you learned
a lot from or both. Letme think, I feel like with each
project I have fun, there's alsoa downside, so just trying to find
one is hard. Well, well, what have I done recently? I
guess in terms of recency, Ihelped Kofi shoot a music video like last
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week. I was the AC onit for which people who don't know is
like the focus ployer, getting cameraready and all that end. Because I
was at a lower itsh role becauseI'm used to dping and just having my
own productions. I had had likeno stress, so that part of it
was really fun. Yeah. Besidesthat, I guess since we talked talked
about it before the last music videoI did with ko which is it's out
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now he's on tour shout out Him. I don't know when this is being
released, but yeah, we didthat shout out Eco. We we did
that video like a month ago orsomething, and it was fun because it
was a good crew. I shoton the Ari looks at thirty five with
a huge ass lens, and Ithink just the technical side of me really
enjoyed it. I learned a lotabout just filmmaking and like being a better
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DP in terms of lightning and cameraand stuff. So that was fun.
And I think besides that, toend it off on a third project,
it would probably be, oh shit, there's two ship Okay, I'll just
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say both. It was with Brandonon our Spec project for Ben and Jerry's
it's with this company that he's workingat, which is Label four twenty eight.
Shout out to those guys. Andthey were just creating a spec commercial
and I really just had fun doingit because I enjoy working those people and
it's always a fun time nice andfor real. Last time, it's a
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client that I'm currently working with.I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say
it, so if I change mymind, I feel for you to cut
this part out. But I'm workingon nine mini documentaries for a nonprofit artist
organization and Mississauga and just making likesmall documentary esque videos on nine artists who
were performing at this festival and thenat the same time promoting the company as
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a masterclass series. And that's justlike personally and like fulfilling in the way
where like I'm making something that's actuallylike helping people. Yeah, creating using
your art to better somebody else's lifeor lives. Yeah, that's awesome.
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And I didn't so I didn't writethis one down actually, but I just
had another idea coming o question comeinto mind. As we've mentioned before,
the entertainment industry is difficult. It'snot impossible, but but it's not easy.
It's not it's not always bad,but it's not always fun. We've
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mentioned you've mentioned time just right nowthat like you had a good experience on
these sets, et cetera. Youlearned a lot in the past. Other
questions, but kind of balancing itout going on the opposing side of it.
What's been a role on set?And you don't have to list the
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production, the production or any names, but where was there a time where
you came into a huge obstacle andyou were potentially extremely stressed out or like
holy crap, and you look backto this day like a I learned from
that or maybe not, or butbe like I just I remember that moment
and I'm glad that I'm able tobetter myself with those potential areas in the
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future. What is something what?Yeah, what is a moment on set
that you've worked in that you went, holy shit, I'm freaking the fuck
out, I'm stressed, like it'sit's not a good time, but it
ended up being worth it and youlearned maybe learn from me. I have
a lot of those, but alsonot a lot of those. And to
explain that better. The one thingI learned from my mentor Brandon is be
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in the least stressful situations to makeyour life easy. Because coming from film
school doing all that short films,all that shit where it's like twelve plus
one hour days working your ass off, like all that stress, Like going
away from that for the betterment ofyou, not to say I don't like
doing that, it's just like whywould I put myself in a place where
stress is a thing if I canchoose to do something that's not easier but
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just better. So yes, thankfullyI've avoided those situations as much as possible.
That being said, shit still happensbecause that type of work. So
I'd say the biggest thing I've learned, and I'm kind of I'm not going
on the track of your question whereit's one moment, but it's a series
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of similar moments. It's kind ofjust figuring out how to deal with people
because I'm I still kind of havethis mindset, but it's tapered down a
little bit where it's like, inlike an athletes' perspective, how Michael Jordan
was not saying I'm fucking Michael Jordanor anything, but it's like how it
was, Yeah, you're not yet, not yet, It's how his career
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was like be like live up tomy standards or get the fuck out of
the way. So obviously that doesn'treally work in our field. But I
also do like the mindset of likebe the best you can be in like
there is a hierarchy in systems,but also learning in this field where let's
like, just because someone isn't atthe level of yere at doesn't mean they
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can't be so maximizing people's potential andhelping them achieve it and at the same
time balance again where it's like ifa client is paying the X amount of
dollars and I have someone on myset that isn't able to achieve things,
being able to nicely tell them like, hey, you gotta be better and
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help them be better or replace them, because I mean that might be kind
of controversial, but that's that's me. It's like, like, you gotta
just be better because that's how IIf I fuck up, I'm gonna say
I sucked up. Try not tomake excuses much as possible, and just
be better. And if I getreplaced, there's a reason I'm getting replaced,
Noble show them that you fucked upfair enough. Yeah, does I
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answer your question, yeah, yeah, okay. And the last question I
have at least is scripted, isif you had a budget of roughly a
one hundred thousand dollars, just becauseI give it like a kind of somewhat
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and matt possible budget frame, whatkind of project are you producing slash working
on documentary style, film, TVseries, YouTube, online media content,
so many different ones, right,Yeah, I'd say the first thing that
pops into mind is definitely a documentarybecause although I haven't made one in a
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lowel just because of the difficulties inmaking a documentary with the funding, the
topics of characters and all that,I would still want to make a documentary
because that's what I love doing.It tells stories of people, you get
to connect with the audience. It'sjust I think raw and true filmmaking when
you're making a documentary. So that'swhere i'd put one hundred k. And
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for people who don't know, hundredk is a lot, but it's also
not a lot, so I'm notsure how far that will go in terms
of documentaries especially, but it's sizeableto make something happen. So when you
say like raw, like documentary isvery raw, how would you distinguish or
differentiate the documentary being raw compared tosay a film or a mocumentary or a
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TV series, Like what makes adocumentary raws it? Potentially the potential educational
side of the things. Is itthe style it's it's made in, how
would you describe it? Or yeah, how would you explain that documentaries or
more on the raw side, I'dsay it also depends on the type of
documentary, because as you know,there's multiple different genres. But in my
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terms, raw just means capturing what'sthere. Like when your documentaries do you
don't really usually have time to finislighting or top to your actors because they're
not actors or actual people. Soyeah, he's got to work on the
fly, make the best shots upand tell the best stories and capture real
moments, whereas in scripted and allthat, like you're trying to create that
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not in a fake way, butlike you're replicating something. Yeah, you're
replicating it, not saying it doesn'twork because like, for example, a
show like This is Us, whichI watched this past year, like that
shit is emotionally insane, Like thatshould have made me cry multiple times and
it had like raw feelings were allthat, but documentaries are just you see
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what you're get type of thing.Yeah, yeah, fair enough, nice,
not like that's good, that's good. Oh I have I have no
more questions. I mean, like, overall recently, you've been doing good,
right, You've been working busy.I was saying earlier that, like
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I see you popping off on I'mon on Instagram and I'm like, oh,
yeah, shit, are just doingthis production shit. You're like explaining
how to do content media or creatingcontent on online media and things like that
and production based tips and tricks,and I'm like, this is awesome.
So I definitely see the work you'redoing. And damn, dude, I
cannot wait to see where you're gonnago next because I know you're gonna fly
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why. I don't know if thisis true or not, but from what
how I know you, which hasbeen a short period of time, but
from what I know from you andeverything, you're a semi quiet guy because
you have everything planned out in yourhead and you're just excited and ready to
pounce. You're ready to execute it. Right. I feel like you're the
kind of guy that has to,like you find a find that right,
(27:30):
crew, that those those particular people, and you're like, Okay, I
want to do something with you.Guys. I can see that, and
I'm very excited to see what youcreate in the future. But yeah,
no, like fuck yeah, anythingyou want to talk about or I'm just
chilling. Well, what you saidactually describes it pretty well for like the
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little amount of time we've known eachother. So that's good to know that
you can see that. Sir.Damn, I'm like having existential thoughts about
that now, smart guy, didyou want to talk about existential thoughts?
I love I love just talking people, man Like. I love to talk
to people. I'd like to understandpeople. I love to hear people's dreams.
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I love to because it almost inspiresme more to work on my own
dreams. I was talking to theguy today in the meeting, and I
was like, listen, like,I really love acting. It's where my
heart is and everything. But manlike, it's hard to find time nowadays.
It really is because I'm most somedays and working doubles and working twelve
hours at the restaurant, and somedays and working only four hours the restaurant.
But when I come home, Ihave other activities and hobbies and things
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like that that I have to dothat I want to do, and then
it's a matter of sleeping properly thengoing to the gym, and there's those
whole balance. But you know,he says, He's like, if you
really do want to do this,if you want to be serious about it,
you gotta really just drop everything elseand do it. And I'm like,
I know, I know, becauseI'm starting up doing real estate courses.
I just I just started a fewday actually, and I had funny
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enough with that Humber College Jen atHumber, But yeah, I know.
And the reason why is because I'ma people person. I have to talk
to people, like to understand peoplelike I like to communicate and like exchange
thoughts and ideas, and I thinkthat's why I thrive so much in the
art community, but also why I'mexcited for a new challenge in the real
estate industry because for me, withacting, it's like I like to I
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like to put on a show.I have to put on a performance to
an audience, to a group ofpeople, right and allow them to escape
reality and the stresses in their livesfor just an hour or two. And
the idea of like a film orsomething like that, or a TV show
episode. But with real estate,it's like I have a very similar like
idea with where I want to makesure that I don't just sell you a
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house or like an apartment. Iwant to sell you a home. I
want to sell you a place whereyou can where he's a family. If
you want to want to sell youa home in which you can feel like
yourself, you can feel alive,you can feel happy, not content.
I want to find the perfect place, and I'm ready to work and really
look for those places, look forthose locations, look for those properties like
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but yeah, sorry I cut youoff, but like just it's yeah,
it's it's difficult to be in thisindustry and it's and that's my existential thoughts
recently has been that stuff. Andit's just the finding of do I want
this, do I want that?I also want to try this. I
want to try that. I'm soexcited, but I have no time.
And that's one of the problems aboutbeing adults. It's it's difficult for balancing
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act. Bro it feels like Iknow me too, it feels like it
feels like we're a little circus man, like I gotta juggle all these things,
and bro, I'm still learning howto juggle. I'm trying to make
me juggle like like sticks that areon fire and bowling pins and all this
shit, like eight of them ata time. Yeah, I complete understand,
and that like on the kind oftopic about that, like I'm still
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trying to figure my shit out becauseduring this last set, I had one
of the people that I was asa friend of mine, he like start
up, asked me do you lovewhat you do? And it took me
a second and I was like mostof the time, And I think it's
I'm still trying to figure out whatthat means, because at least for my
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journey, I've been doing video forso long where it used to be fun
and then I made it into abusiness and it's like, Okay, now
I gotta like try to separate bothwhere I can just make shit for fun
or just like I'm still trying tofigure it out, as you can probably
tell, Like I don't even knowhow to describe this properly, because yeah,
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if you've if you've been doing somethingfor so long, you're it just
becomes your life and it's like noit's a part of your life, so
it's part of who you are.Yeah, it's like when you're a kid
and you make those little and it'slike what's in the middle of your heart?
Like who you are? This?And that maybe it could be you
know, people ask themselves is likedo I do I like, do you
enjoy what you do? It's maybeachieved more of do you enjoy how you
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do it? Like maybe try adifferent stream of things, maybe try to
think of a different way of takingon a task. But like I understand
what you mean. Yeah, LikeI've been acting since I was ten or
eleven years old, so yeah,not not not like professionally or like as
good as now. Like I know, I take it seriously. I didn't
start taking it serious. I thinkthat I was sixteen. But still I've
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been acting since I was ten elevenyears old, or as my dad says,
you've been acting your whole life becauseyou've been acting like a like a
dramatic queen. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know, I
know, bro. Sorry, itwas the warm ups. You gotta get
your reps and before you start doingit, exactly, you gotta stretch and
warm up before you can execute theset, So I can't wait go to
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the gym later? Do you notgo yet? No? I have I
have a long day ahead of me, so the only time I have today
to work out is between two andfive. So but yeah, I know
it's a lot, a lot Ilike to I take I'll be honest,
I take on too much. Butit's it's I say. I say I
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take on too much in reference andreferring to people that say that to me.
I personally don't think I'm taking ontoo much because I'm old, Because
I know i'll take too much.I'm taking too much when when I go
okay, I need to stop.But yet I haven't yet been at that
point where I'm like, okay,I need to stop. Slowing down is
a different thing. Stopping is okay. You really need to check in on
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yourself. But yeah, that's personthe person again. That's what I've just
learned. You can't force your idealsor like your thoughts on someone. You
can just say it. So,I mean, as long as you're alive,
you're still kicking. My opinion wouldbe, don't go to the stopping
point. Don't get that part becauseI've I've burnt out, like hard last
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year, and it I just Ididn't even have the ability to stop,
so I had to keep creating.But I was like creating shit because I
didn't feel like doing it. Soyeah, yeah, I don't overwork yourself.
But also because that'll be bad toa point where once you're from experience,
I worked for like two or threeyears straight with no breaks, not
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saying like I didn't have a dayoff or like that where it's like I'm
doing this because it was through COVIDas well, right, you have nothing
else to do? Yeah, Andthen I burned out multiple times where I
was about to but I'm like,no, I can't burn out yet,
so I was like I'll delay it. I don't know how the hell I
did that, but it basically piledup to a point where like I just
crashed for a couple of months,and again I still had to make stuff
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during that because I still had clientsand work to do. So yeah,
yeah, that's my two cents onthe creative burnout. I'm gonna stop their
Yeah, yeah, maybe I shouldtake it, right, I don't know.
It's good to Also, you couldhave other people too, right,
so I appreciate the honesty. Yeah, just live life again. This career,
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I mean, it's mainly just capitalism. Am I gonna get do into
that too much? Because I don'tknow too much about it. But it's
like there's only so far you cango, like, go enjoy life.
Like we're in our early mid twenties. I don't know how old you are
anymore. I forgot, but wegot I shouldn't do Why wait until we're
forty and fifty to do it whenwe don't have the energy in the body.
Yeah yeah, or or or thereor the time. Yeah yeah,
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we're still We're still. We're still. We're still building the stairs. We
haven't climbed it yet. We're stillbuilding the stairs. Oh yeah. Percent
believe my prime is going to bein my late twenties early thirties. If
my life cann't handle that weight,I could. I couldn't even agree more
like I would say, mid twentiesto early thirties is going to be like
the prime years of my career.I'm excited. I'm so excited. But
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I got to keep working now soI can build that foundation and have a
solid solid base so I can soI can live three bounce around sounds a
little weird, but yeah, whatever, we're gonna votes, We're gonna roll
with it. Yeah, quick pointfor me. I feel like I try
to tell this to each person who'slike hand because it helped me. Although
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we're adults, are we've been livingfor a long time, our adult life
technically started when we're like between eighteento twenty twenty at the very least,
So like like, bro, no, no, that's we're on adults at
that point. We're legally an adult, but fuck that man. Yeah,
So it's like, what do youexpect like a two or three year old
to like know how to do X, Y and Z. Like I'm turning
twenty three like next week, soI'm like, I'm technically three years old
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as an adult, and I'm justlike I have to remind myself that before
I'm like, oh, I'm goingway too slow or X Y Z or
whatever all that type of ship.I like that idea though, is that
like twenty years old is like areasonable age to call yourself an adult?
And how are you're right now orin a week or you said week you're
in turn twenty three? Yeah,yeah, then in a week you're gonna
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be three years old. That's likeme right now, I'm maybe then considered
two years old. I'm twenty two. I have my birthday in March,
right, Like, I'm a no. One. Think that means you're a
two thousand, but yeah, it'slike two thousand. Yeah, Oh I'm
an old one. I'm an oldone because I'm number one. No,
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I'm kidding, but yeah, no, I like that. I like that
idea though, is that I'm twoyears old, and that at that idea,
you're three years old in that idea, right, you're at two or
three years old, you're still kindof learning that talk and you know,
walk and run and do activities andyou know, figure out how your body's
working in this case, figure outhow our lives are working and find that
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balance. I like that idea alot. It's good. Been good,
Yeah, I said, Like Isaid, you you seem a quiet guy,
but you've got so many fucking goodideas in your head right that way,
you're bright. Let's stay quiet becauseonly the real people can hear me
talk exactly. Absolutely. Yeah.Well we're coming up on our time soon.
(38:13):
Here, Is there anything else youwant to say or talk about?
I'm going to throw it to youbecause I haven't heard from you in a
minute, or knowing what the hellyou've been up to. And I just
found out your two thousand and one, So like what besides acting and all
that, because you've been doing itsince I guess forever. As your dad
says, Like what am I tryingto say? Like why a podcast?
(38:37):
Besides? Like, well, whyare you That's a good that's a good
one. Why are you doing whatyou're doing now? Podcast? Life,
acting work? Just running back toyou? Oh no, reverse the podcast.
So people that may or may notknow, people that of listened to
(39:00):
et cetera or not it might notknow that. In twenty twenty, Jack
and I lost a very very closefriend, uh to ours. He was
my childhood friend and also Jack's.Yeah, he was the longest friend I
ever had, and he passed awayfrom an accident. And Jack and I
(39:23):
were never close, So we gotclose obviously after that, and we started
talking, we started hanging out,we became friends, became really good friends.
And then there was one day wewere in McDonald's parking lot having ice
cream or having not blizzards what theycalled mc mcflury's thank you ever having mcflury's,
(39:45):
and we I told him. Iwas like, you know, I
really want to do like a podcast. I want to do some like voiceover
work and things like that. Andyou know I do my voiceover work here
and there as well. But Iasked him, you want to do a
podcast because we have great conversations.We talk all the time, this and
that, and he's like, yeah, you know what, I have no
(40:06):
idea how to do any kind ofart thing, but I'm down. So
I took the lead with that,and here we are two and a half
years later, we're now at thisis I think our eighty third or eighty
fourth episode. Nice and holy fuck, it's been a wild ride a lot
(40:27):
of late nights, but it getsgoing back to the like you said,
the reason why the podcast is Yeah, I just it was. It started
off as a hey, I wantto I have an idea to be I
want to hang out more with you. I love talking to you, this
and that to Jack, and andthen turn into like, I want to
work on my voice and with voiceoverand enunciating and things like that, which
(40:50):
you know, still when I'm recordingthis, it's different because I feel so
relaxed and it's our thing and thisand that, so I don't focus on
it as much, but yeah,I it's like a little baby. It's
a little side project. It's somethingthat helps me run, Like clockwork.
It's like it's like my my fulltime job, my family, my friends,
(41:15):
the podcast, and like a fewother minor things are all all assembled
into this like gear box, andthe gearbox is uh controls the clock and
you know, let's the clock workon the clock is obviously my time,
and you know it's uh. Itwas that one thing that was just missing,
(41:35):
I guess for me, like,yeah, I wanted to do something
that I could consistently work on.I missed the days where I used to
do YouTube when I was a kid. I used to have a YouTube channel
called mister Jake Turbo, which nowrebranded to just guy tanel terratory my name.
And I missed those YouTube days increating content because I had so much
(41:57):
fun and like you were talking aboutearlier, I got leads so much for
it, like being like people wouldcall me mister Jake Turbo and pushed me
into lockers in high school. Ididn't care though I was. I enjoyed
it. I enjoyed pressing upload ontoa video. I enjoyed editing at night
at like one in the morning whenI had class and like I have school
in like six seven hours. LikeI enjoyed that thrill and that adrenaline rush
(42:21):
of seeing like a view, likemy views go from ten views to like
twenty going, holy fuck, twentypeople, twenty hearts, twenty brains,
forty eyes. You know, likewhatever ten times twenty is two hundred fingers
watched a video. I mean,like, I don't know, it's weird
that way, but just that ideathat somebody took the time out of their
(42:43):
day to watch something I created,And that's where I found the beauty of
it. And that's why I withthe podcast. I do something I like
that idea and the similarity of it. Like again, I don't take it
crazy professionally, I like to keepit more relaxed and laid back, but
fuck, I enjoy it. Ithoroughly fucking enjoy doing this. And yes
there's some late hours. There havebeen multiple times, Like two days ago,
(43:06):
I had a Snapchat memory of twoyears ago where I literally fell asleep
at my desk editing the podcast andit was four am, and we released
it on Mondays at seven am.And so I then spent from four am
to four to five thirty editing it, went back to bed for an hour
and a half two hours, andthen went to class actually three hours.
(43:27):
Actually excited class at eight and thenwent to uh yeah, I went.
They went to class. But fuck, like, it's the same thing.
It's not easy, but it's it'sfun. I enjoy it. I enjoy
the challenge of it, and Ithink that's those are the reasons why I
love it and why I wanted tokeep doing it. But you know,
everything has to come to an end, and who knows what the future has
(43:49):
and hold for us. But I'mexcited for the next chapter and the next
next projects I work on in thefuture. I love creating art. That's
it. I feel like you feelthe same way. There's different mediums,
but at the end of the day, it's a wow thing. It's shit.
That's some good fucking art. Thatwas That was nice, like just
(44:16):
to hear for myself because what Isaid before, like I need to fall
back in love with filmmaking, LikeI like, I really love doing it,
but it's like that part of itwhere it's like I this is like
how you described It's like I gottaI gotta tap back into that one day,
see and hopefully so that's good tohear and sorry to hear about your
friend, but that's okay. Ihope you're doing good. I hope all
(44:42):
of this good and I'm I don'tknow. It's okay if you If you
want to try to find your loveagain, I recommend creating some kind of
like give sticky notes in your roomat all or anything like that. Yeah,
I got like a batch of stickynotes right here. Yeah, I
grab some grabs some sticky notes.Every single sticky note. It could be
(45:05):
two sicky notes, it could bea fucking hundred sicky notes. Write down
on a sticky note, what aspectsyou love about filmmaking and and and better
yet like what aspects of filmmaking orfilm that you love. And then make
a separate wall on another wall,because not the wall. It could be
literally a massive wall, but literallyanother wall that's perpendicular to it, and
(45:29):
write what makes you feel alive inlife and what things in life you love,
and see if there's a match,right, see what things can correlate
together. And that's that's how forme I found I've refound the fire and
the flame in my heart for whyI love art and stuff because during COVID
and other times, have obviously haddoubts. But when you're when you're reminded
(45:52):
of the things you love and thethings that make you alive, that's what's
gonna help you thrive in life.So that's an exercise I was taught by
their past therapists. I'm gonna dothat. That's all. I'm gonna do
that. But yeah, we dohave to end it off now, So
shut yourself out, r J.Let the people know where they can find
you, and it could be yeah, website, YouTube, Instagram, all
(46:15):
that, shebang, rip it go, all right, say us. So
I'm on ig it's underscore r Iju Okay, it's my first name,
Rigio in my last initial, somy name isn't Actually we're a joke for
all the people. I'm not gonnaget into that. But that's my Instagram
and then YouTube is just my fullname, Ragel Catheria. It's all lounked
(46:37):
in my you, so don't worry. But yeah, I feel free to
check it out. I try topost content of my own work to have
a portfolio piece, but also tohelp aspiring GPS or just indie filmmakers trying
to take that next step, andyeah, just give up free value and
just connect with people. So yeah, that's it. Nice good stuff.
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well uh we'll see everyone later.Take it easy and get chow
Welcome everyone back to another episode ofDumb End. Let's just the Podcast hosted
by Guy Paratory and Jack Hamilton.My name is Guy, and this pleasant
afternoon. Jack is very busy,so we have our lovely guest on for
today. His name is r J. We met through Humber Colleges production of
Private Eye and Apple Pie in twentytwenty one. He is a filmmaker extraordinaire.
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R J. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
It's been a minute. Bro,you look sexy. It's been a minute,
Bro, he looks sexy. Bro, we've both got the good facial
are going now? Right? Ohmy god, it's been a minute.
How you been? How you beenthe last two years? I think I've
been good. A lot, alot of stuff's happening, a lot of
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projects has been working on. Doyou think you're saying earlier that you have
your own production company and everything now? So I see that's popping off.
That's awesome, Thank you. Yeah. I just trying to make it work,
just thriving, thriving, whatever youwant. College is making it work.
Hey man. It's it's a hustleup there, that's all. And
that's what we like to talk aboutit on here, just like the hustle,
the motivation, a little bit ofthe work ethic. Yeah, Like
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I was saying, our d andI made each other on set few years
ago. I was acting and hewas you're you camera op or what were
you doing? Yeah? I wason camera camera that's awesome. Yeah,
And we just kind of fooled aroundand sucked around on set and got really
friendly really quickly. It was afun time during peak COVID. Plus we
got shutting down too, if youremember that. Yeah, I remember that
(01:29):
as well. But we were donefilming at that point, right, I
think, No, we had oneday left. Oh fuck oh yeah,
it was like a month later.We had to we had to wait a
whole month or a month and abit and then something like that, something
finally reshot the last like a fewsee last few shots or whatever that was.
I was first remember. Yeah.That was also like in the middle
(01:51):
of winters, not only as COVIDbut also like get commuting there, driving
there, et cetera. It's likeso cold and snowing, and we may
work and the result was awesome.Personally myself, I look at it like
it was a great by the way, production was insane, insane from what
I've seen another student productions, theproduction quality was awesome. But for me,
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I look back at it and Icringe at my acting because it's been
two years I've worked on my craft. I've graduated as well. You've graduated
as well, right, you graduated. No, I dropped a couple of
courses to make time for like workand business. So I'm going back this
January to finish school. Fair enough, fair enough, but again, like
you gotta pay bills and honestly,like, I don't know about you,
(02:34):
but for me, I'm more ofa work person. I don't I'm not
really much of an academic. I'mgrateful I got the degree, but at
the end of the day, I'mI like to stay busy in terms of
work, not not doing homework,not doing projects that I'll never care about
in the future, and this andthat. It's but at the end of
the day, when you're in thisindustry, it's all about connections, So
I think that's what's most valuable.But yeah, we made each other through
(02:59):
on set and had a fun time, became friends, and uh yeah,
now we're here two years later,you're your production company. I got my
acting gigs that are coming in hereand there. I'm working as a full
time server. But yeah, soI have some questions for your jay that
prepared a little bit kind of interviewstyle, you know, relax, chill,
(03:22):
we're just kind of talking about andyeah, you can feel free to
give me short answers long answers.The stage is yours or in this regard,
in this case, the microphone isyours. But yeah, so the
first one I wanted to give youis who or what inspires you? And
this could be related to filmmaking,or this could be related to everyday life.
(03:45):
It's more of a general question.So if you want to give a
little Alberts answer, feel free to. If you want to give more general
answer, feel free to. Butwe do have another question later, which
is what is someone Who is someonethat you look up to in the field.
So you can kind of answer both, or you can can answer this
one and then answered the next questionlater. But yeah, who or what
inspires you? Okay, I'll refrainfrom talking about who too much to save
(04:11):
it for the next question, butI'd say what inspires me is I think
a little bit of life or juststuff in general. I'm still trying to
figure stuff out. Obviously I'm notthat old, unfortunately. Yeah we're both
young. Yeah, so still tryingto find my way and stuff. But
I think more the more I delveinto filmmaking and just stuff in general and
growing up and maturing, just allthis stuff around me inspires me. Like,
(04:33):
for example, I was having likeserial a couple of weeks ago,
and I saw this light streak onmy living room floor and I'm like,
oh shit, that's cool. That'slike a nice hard source of lighting.
And then I decided to make somethingfrom it. I haven't made it yet
because I've been kind of busy,but that's like an example of just random
shit that could inspire me. Besidesthat, I'd just say communities that I'm
(04:58):
part of, people friends. Trynot to get into names or anything,
so I can say for that thatnext question. But I just say I
think everything inspires me to a certainextent. Every blink creates another opportunity for
creativity. Yes, I love thattrade trade trade right there, right down,
(05:23):
post it on a billboard. Whatbang, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah, But then I mean onthe same premise that then I might
as well asking the next one whois someone that you look up to in
the field. All right, thereare a lot of people. So if
I don't mention, you don't takethis personally. But I'd say starting off
(05:44):
would be my film mentor Brandon Fraser. He's a creative director DP. He
works at a production company. Nowfund him through Instagram, through connections and
actual in turn or coopt with himduring my third or final year of Humber
And yeah, I just connected withhim through that. I learned a lot
in terms of filmmaking and business andwe stay connected. We'll still work with
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him like once a month or everytwo months or so personal or production wise.
And yeah, we're like close friends. So there's one person. A
couple other are another person I've foundthrough its filmmaking. His name's Kofi.
He's a big time YouTuber now hegot past twenty subscribers, and yeah,
he's one of my boys. Ilearned a lot from him and filmmaking,
(06:31):
end business and just life in general. Who else, Let's say Mark Boone
and the art of documentary community.It's just a filmmaking community based on documentary
creators. I just I found himthrough second year that semester before we did
our stuff because of that first semester, we're supposed to make a documentary.
So I searched up how to makea documentary on YouTube and I found him
(06:53):
and yeah, I've just been inthat community. I've met him, met
so many people, made so manyprojects that community. And I don't have
the hat right now, it's inmy car. But yeah, Abodi's like
one of the best communities I've beenpart of. And yeah, there's like
a ship send more people, butI don't think we have time for me
to talk about everyone, but thoseare the main community is going to create
(07:14):
a legend. The community is goingto create a hero. A hero doesn't
just come out of nowhere, rightexactly. It's all if you want to
work hard, if you want tobe successful. Everyone's like, oh,
I gotta work on yourself. Yougotta working yourself. That's true. But
if you don't got that support system, if you don't have that community,
they'll you know, the little villageto help you out. It's hard,
man, it's fucking tough on yourown. It's not possible, but it
(07:35):
definitely helps. And I can Ican understand and sympathize with, you know,
empathize sorry with the people that helpcreate who we are today. So
that's that's beautiful. I love thatexactly. I'll drow up a quote real
quick because so I can match withyou. It's go for it, yahol
is it? If you want togo fast, go alone. But if
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you want to go far, gowith people. I think that's I think
what it was. I think Imessed up the ending, but that's the
gist of it, which I've beentrying to do a lot more nowadays.
I love that. If you wantto go fast, go alone. If
you want to go far, gowith people. That's awesome. That's so
true as well too, because youcan go fast and succeed. Again,
it's not possible, but if yougo too fast with not a lot of
(08:18):
people helping you out, you couldcrash and burn. Right, Yeah,
exactly. Fuck, that's a goodone. I like that. Yeah,
that's a really good one. I'mgonna put that in our little bio'll buy
out the description of this episode.That's good. I like that. I
like that. Fuck with that well, also kind of on that Line's that?
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The next question I got for you, r J, is what got
you interested in filmmaking? All Right? This is a realization I've had actually
in the last couple of weeks.Of course, I've always been a creative
kid, but going up in likethe early two thousands in the system in
North America, like that creativity kindof gets pushed out of you because there
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it's like you're the weird kid.So like I used to like write stories,
make content, like before, contentwas the thing I used to do,
all that creative ship. But growingup through elementary school and middle school
and all that, it's like,no, let's go to play sports,
don't go to music class, don'tdo this this that, Let's go play
sports or do all the cool shit. And it was pretty cool because I
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enjoyed it, but I kind offorgot all the creative stuff. I was
still doing it, but not asmuch. And then I went to IB
program for the first two years ofhigh school, which is like for super
super smart kids. So I'm stillfriends with a lot of them there,
but it just it wasn't for meintellectually. It just that's not how I
learned, that's not that's not howI process things, and my grades were
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showing them. My parents would like, get, what the fuck's wrong with
you? They don't actually say that, but like kind of so. And
then just because of how that wasgoing, I was like, I can't
do this, and I switched overto school nearby my house, which was
focused on information and communication and technologythrough the SHSM program, and I didn't
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know that was a thing, butyeah, through that, I got into
classes like graphics, video, likeall like the more creative stuff, and
my grades just skyrocketed. Not tosay grades really matter, but it's just
like I was excelling in the rightenvironments. So probably also like you're also
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working on something that you actually enjoyed. It wasn't feel like homework. I
felt like a burst or a dooryou open that you can just release all
this creative energy into, exactly likebeing back in my IB school. Like
I'd get home around seven or eightpm and I'd hate life, and then
I would be here like rendering projectsuntil seven or eight pm. I'm like,
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okay, I'm just I'm just havingfun. So that's like the difference
I had there. And once Ifigured that out, like I decided to
go to film school, which iswhere I met this sexy man guy.
And I'm not done film school yetunfortunately, but it helped me see like
how professionals work and how stuff asit stuff is at a higher level.
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And the reason I say that isthrough like high school, through all that,
I was still freelancing, I guess, and making videos and shit on
my own because I always had likesome business part of me somehow. So
I went to film school. Irealized that still been freelancing, and I
kind of just got into it.That's kind of a long answer, but
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to make it shorter, it's likeI always had it, I just have
to rEFInd it. Yeah, andalso, and I also like everybody learns
at a different level. Everybody wantsto experience things earlier or later, et
cetera. Like you decided that,hey, I want to drop a few
courses. I want to get morehands on work. I want to be
mentored. I want to see moredeep and the real behind the scenes of
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what it's like in the actual industryversus just stay in a classroom being lectured
to doing homework, filling out likeforms and whatever all that shit. You
were like, I want to getthe hands on experience, and but you
already knew though. You're like,I can go back to class, I
can go and finish this. It'snot there's no rush per se, but
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while you're young and you want toyou want to create a more solid foundation,
not saying not saying that the programthat you're in are bad or anything.
But again, like you said,everyone learns differently, and it might
not be how you learn, itmight be how you learn better. There's
always theory versus practical and there's awhole realm around that. But yeah,
I know, I totally actually commendyou for that. I wish I had
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the balls to do that when Iwas in university, but for me,
I was more head down, justfinish it, you know, enjoy what
I can, but finish it assoon as possible in the four years and
then get out and immediately start working. And That's what I've been doing.
But I mean so in a ina comparative scenario, you're actually more ahead
of me in industry experience. That'swhy I commend you for that, and
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I respect you for that. Thankyou. But going along that, what
I've realized, both in the goodway and hard way, is that each
person is on their own timeline andthe schedule. So don't be comparing yourself
to me. Compare yourself to yourselfit's really hard to say that because I
always try not to do that.But you know, we see people on
your stories it's always working, alwaysdoing this, being where you want to
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be, and it's like, youknow, shit, man, it's hard.
It's hard not to compare yourself,right, It's it's considered unhealthy,
but it's not. It's not notnormal. It gets normal to compare yourself
to others. It's just you can'tdig yourself a hole and bare yourself into
this pit of like I'm jealous andthis and that, like it's good to
look at it and you're like,oh, I'm jealous, it's going to
motivate me more versus I'm jealous.I feel like a piece of shit because
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I'm not at that levely yet.It's like, dude, like you said,
everyone's on their own time, nomatter what field you work in,
everybody works at their own pace.Yeah. So, and I'm a big
believer just working. Like the pointyou said, like one second process information,
Okay, so there you go.It's just working at it. Because
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a couple of weeks after we didour thing, I was selected to be
a DP for a different studio drama. If you remember do you remember Elliott
as our RDP for Private Eye,So I basically did what he did for
a different one and I didn't havelike lighting or I only had camera experience,
So I dped on another studio dramaand it looked like shit, Yeah,
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it was pretty bad, like comparedto Private Eye, because we I
went from like the best drama tothe class to like not knowing what the
fuck I'm doing just because the lackof experience said that could have been whoever.
But the thing that I'm most proudof myself and happy like I had
help and then also I realized howbad I was, and not even two
years later, I look back onthem, like, if that didn't happen
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and I didn't like see myself beingbad, I wouldn't want to improve and
be better, to make those stepsto be better. Yeah, you'd be
like a project or two behind ofhow good you are now, Like you're
always going to better yourself. There'sno such thing as being perfect or the
like, you can be the best, but it doesn't mean you're perfect.
So I know you can you can, you can, you can run,
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but it doesn't mean you're going tofinish a finish first at the end of
the race, right, so likeyou can always do better. And that's
what I was stactually talking to witha buddy of mine, Darryl, who
was on set with a few weeksago for a gig. He helped me
this morning with revamping my MANU profile, my casting workbook and all that stuff,
and he's just like, yeah,man, like it's it's a tough
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industry, and but as long asyou show the effort that you want to
put into it, and like youknow you're you're trying your hardest, you
can like casting directors whoever like cansee, producers can see that you're putting
in the effort. You could alwaysbe better, and you're gonna have to
do those projects that you look lookback on and you cringe, like I
was saying, like I like theproduction value of Private Eye Alpie so phenomenally
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like high, but my acting qualitywas not terrible, but it was not
good. I didn't like it toomuch, Like there was there was so
many times I would like a shotwould come in and I'm in and I'm
like, oh, I'm just cringing, Like fuck, man, I should
have there, it should be morebounded. I should have focused more like
I should have done more, gonemore in depth of actioning of the text,
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which is like putting verbs to certainwords and like whatever. But the
only reason that I know this nowis because I did those things right.
You look back and you reflect andyour reference. Okay, this is where
I can build it from the zuckI can improve. But if there's no
foundation, there's nothing there that tostart with, you're just gonna think you're
good right off the get go.And that's not how it works, right
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exactly. If you're not, Ifyou don't look back at your previous self
and cringe or feel bad or somethingin like a negative ish way, it's
like then you don't have any progress. So yeah, yeah, and then
I so what The next question Igot for you was, what's been a
recent project you've worked on that youthoroughly enjoyed? And it could be enjoyed
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as you get a fun time,or it could be enjoyed as you learned
a lot from or both. Letme think, I feel like with each
project I have fun, there's alsoa downside, so just trying to find
one is hard. Well, well, what have I done recently? I
guess in terms of recency, Ihelped Kofi shoot a music video like last
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week. I was the AC onit for which people who don't know is
like the focus ployer, getting cameraready and all that end. Because I
was at a lower itsh role becauseI'm used to dping and just having my
own productions. I had had likeno stress, so that part of it
was really fun. Yeah. Besidesthat, I guess since we talked talked
about it before the last music videoI did with ko which is it's out
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now he's on tour shout out Him. I don't know when this is being
released, but yeah, we didthat shout out Eco. We we did
that video like a month ago orsomething, and it was fun because it
was a good crew. I shoton the Ari looks at thirty five with
a huge ass lens, and Ithink just the technical side of me really
enjoyed it. I learned a lotabout just filmmaking and like being a better
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DP in terms of lightning and cameraand stuff. So that was fun.
And I think besides that, toend it off on a third project,
it would probably be, oh shit, there's two ship Okay, I'll just
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say both. It was with Brandonon our Spec project for Ben and Jerry's
it's with this company that he's workingat, which is Label four twenty eight.
Shout out to those guys. Andthey were just creating a spec commercial
and I really just had fun doingit because I enjoy working those people and
it's always a fun time nice andfor real. Last time, it's a
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client that I'm currently working with.I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say
it, so if I change mymind, I feel for you to cut
this part out. But I'm workingon nine mini documentaries for a nonprofit artist
organization and Mississauga and just making likesmall documentary esque videos on nine artists who
were performing at this festival and thenat the same time promoting the company as
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a masterclass series. And that's justlike personally and like fulfilling in the way
where like I'm making something that's actuallylike helping people. Yeah, creating using
your art to better somebody else's lifeor lives. Yeah, that's awesome.
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And I didn't so I didn't writethis one down actually, but I just
had another idea coming o question comeinto mind. As we've mentioned before,
the entertainment industry is difficult. It'snot impossible, but but it's not easy.
It's not it's not always bad,but it's not always fun. We've
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mentioned you've mentioned time just right nowthat like you had a good experience on
these sets, et cetera. Youlearned a lot in the past. Other
questions, but kind of balancing itout going on the opposing side of it.
What's been a role on set?And you don't have to list the
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production, the production or any names, but where was there a time where
you came into a huge obstacle andyou were potentially extremely stressed out or like
holy crap, and you look backto this day like a I learned from
that or maybe not, or butbe like I just I remember that moment
and I'm glad that I'm able tobetter myself with those potential areas in the
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future. What is something what?Yeah, what is a moment on set
that you've worked in that you went, holy shit, I'm freaking the fuck
out, I'm stressed, like it'sit's not a good time, but it
ended up being worth it and youlearned maybe learn from me. I have
a lot of those, but alsonot a lot of those. And to
explain that better. The one thingI learned from my mentor Brandon is be
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in the least stressful situations to makeyour life easy. Because coming from film
school doing all that short films,all that shit where it's like twelve plus
one hour days working your ass off, like all that stress, Like going
away from that for the betterment ofyou, not to say I don't like
doing that, it's just like whywould I put myself in a place where
stress is a thing if I canchoose to do something that's not easier but
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just better. So yes, thankfullyI've avoided those situations as much as possible.
That being said, shit still happensbecause that type of work. So
I'd say the biggest thing I've learned, and I'm kind of I'm not going
on the track of your question whereit's one moment, but it's a series
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of similar moments. It's kind ofjust figuring out how to deal with people
because I'm I still kind of havethis mindset, but it's tapered down a
little bit where it's like, inlike an athletes' perspective, how Michael Jordan
was not saying I'm fucking Michael Jordanor anything, but it's like how it
was, Yeah, you're not yet, not yet, It's how his career
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was like be like live up tomy standards or get the fuck out of
the way. So obviously that doesn'treally work in our field. But I
also do like the mindset of likebe the best you can be in like
there is a hierarchy in systems,but also learning in this field where let's
like, just because someone isn't atthe level of yere at doesn't mean they
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can't be so maximizing people's potential andhelping them achieve it and at the same
time balance again where it's like ifa client is paying the X amount of
dollars and I have someone on myset that isn't able to achieve things,
being able to nicely tell them like, hey, you gotta be better and
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help them be better or replace them, because I mean that might be kind
of controversial, but that's that's me. It's like, like, you gotta
just be better because that's how IIf I fuck up, I'm gonna say
I sucked up. Try not tomake excuses much as possible, and just
be better. And if I getreplaced, there's a reason I'm getting replaced,
Noble show them that you fucked upfair enough. Yeah, does I
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answer your question, yeah, yeah, okay. And the last question I
have at least is scripted, isif you had a budget of roughly a
one hundred thousand dollars, just becauseI give it like a kind of somewhat
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and matt possible budget frame, whatkind of project are you producing slash working
on documentary style, film, TVseries, YouTube, online media content,
so many different ones, right,Yeah, I'd say the first thing that
pops into mind is definitely a documentarybecause although I haven't made one in a
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lowel just because of the difficulties inmaking a documentary with the funding, the
topics of characters and all that,I would still want to make a documentary
because that's what I love doing.It tells stories of people, you get
to connect with the audience. It'sjust I think raw and true filmmaking when
you're making a documentary. So that'swhere i'd put one hundred k. And
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for people who don't know, hundredk is a lot, but it's also
not a lot, so I'm notsure how far that will go in terms
of documentaries especially, but it's sizeableto make something happen. So when you
say like raw, like documentary isvery raw, how would you distinguish or
differentiate the documentary being raw compared tosay a film or a mocumentary or a
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TV series, Like what makes adocumentary raws it? Potentially the potential educational
side of the things. Is itthe style it's it's made in, how
would you describe it? Or yeah, how would you explain that documentaries or
more on the raw side, I'dsay it also depends on the type of
documentary, because as you know,there's multiple different genres. But in my
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terms, raw just means capturing what'sthere. Like when your documentaries do you
don't really usually have time to finislighting or top to your actors because they're
not actors or actual people. Soyeah, he's got to work on the
fly, make the best shots upand tell the best stories and capture real
moments, whereas in scripted and allthat, like you're trying to create that
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not in a fake way, butlike you're replicating something. Yeah, you're
replicating it, not saying it doesn'twork because like, for example, a
show like This is Us, whichI watched this past year, like that
shit is emotionally insane, Like thatshould have made me cry multiple times and
it had like raw feelings were allthat, but documentaries are just you see
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what you're get type of thing.Yeah, yeah, fair enough, nice,
not like that's good, that's good. Oh I have I have no
more questions. I mean, like, overall recently, you've been doing good,
right, You've been working busy.I was saying earlier that, like
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I see you popping off on I'mon on Instagram and I'm like, oh,
yeah, shit, are just doingthis production shit. You're like explaining
how to do content media or creatingcontent on online media and things like that
and production based tips and tricks,and I'm like, this is awesome.
So I definitely see the work you'redoing. And damn, dude, I
cannot wait to see where you're gonnago next because I know you're gonna fly
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why. I don't know if thisis true or not, but from what
how I know you, which hasbeen a short period of time, but
from what I know from you andeverything, you're a semi quiet guy because
you have everything planned out in yourhead and you're just excited and ready to
pounce. You're ready to execute it. Right. I feel like you're the
kind of guy that has to,like you find a find that right,
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crew, that those those particular people, and you're like, Okay, I
want to do something with you.Guys. I can see that, and
I'm very excited to see what youcreate in the future. But yeah,
no, like fuck yeah, anythingyou want to talk about or I'm just
chilling. Well, what you saidactually describes it pretty well for like the
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little amount of time we've known eachother. So that's good to know that
you can see that. Sir.Damn, I'm like having existential thoughts about
that now, smart guy, didyou want to talk about existential thoughts?
I love I love just talking people, man Like. I love to talk
to people. I'd like to understandpeople. I love to hear people's dreams.
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I love to because it almost inspiresme more to work on my own
dreams. I was talking to theguy today in the meeting, and I
was like, listen, like,I really love acting. It's where my
heart is and everything. But manlike, it's hard to find time nowadays.
It really is because I'm most somedays and working doubles and working twelve
hours at the restaurant, and somedays and working only four hours the restaurant.
But when I come home, Ihave other activities and hobbies and things
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like that that I have to dothat I want to do, and then
it's a matter of sleeping properly thengoing to the gym, and there's those
whole balance. But you know,he says, He's like, if you
really do want to do this,if you want to be serious about it,
you gotta really just drop everything elseand do it. And I'm like,
I know, I know, becauseI'm starting up doing real estate courses.
I just I just started a fewday actually, and I had funny
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enough with that Humber College Jen atHumber, But yeah, I know.
And the reason why is because I'ma people person. I have to talk
to people, like to understand peoplelike I like to communicate and like exchange
thoughts and ideas, and I thinkthat's why I thrive so much in the
art community, but also why I'mexcited for a new challenge in the real
estate industry because for me, withacting, it's like I like to I
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like to put on a show.I have to put on a performance to
an audience, to a group ofpeople, right and allow them to escape
reality and the stresses in their livesfor just an hour or two. And
the idea of like a film orsomething like that, or a TV show
episode. But with real estate,it's like I have a very similar like
idea with where I want to makesure that I don't just sell you a
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house or like an apartment. Iwant to sell you a home. I
want to sell you a place whereyou can where he's a family. If
you want to want to sell youa home in which you can feel like
yourself, you can feel alive,you can feel happy, not content.
I want to find the perfect place, and I'm ready to work and really
look for those places, look forthose locations, look for those properties like
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but yeah, sorry I cut youoff, but like just it's yeah,
it's it's difficult to be in thisindustry and it's and that's my existential thoughts
recently has been that stuff. Andit's just the finding of do I want
this, do I want that?I also want to try this. I
want to try that. I'm soexcited, but I have no time.
And that's one of the problems aboutbeing adults. It's it's difficult for balancing
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act. Bro it feels like Iknow me too, it feels like it
feels like we're a little circus man, like I gotta juggle all these things,
and bro, I'm still learning howto juggle. I'm trying to make
me juggle like like sticks that areon fire and bowling pins and all this
shit, like eight of them ata time. Yeah, I complete understand,
and that like on the kind oftopic about that, like I'm still
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trying to figure my shit out becauseduring this last set, I had one
of the people that I was asa friend of mine, he like start
up, asked me do you lovewhat you do? And it took me
a second and I was like mostof the time, And I think it's
I'm still trying to figure out whatthat means, because at least for my
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journey, I've been doing video forso long where it used to be fun
and then I made it into abusiness and it's like, Okay, now
I gotta like try to separate bothwhere I can just make shit for fun
or just like I'm still trying tofigure it out, as you can probably
tell, Like I don't even knowhow to describe this properly, because yeah,
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if you've if you've been doing somethingfor so long, you're it just
becomes your life and it's like noit's a part of your life, so
it's part of who you are.Yeah, it's like when you're a kid
and you make those little and it'slike what's in the middle of your heart?
Like who you are? This?And that maybe it could be you
know, people ask themselves is likedo I do I like, do you
enjoy what you do? It's maybeachieved more of do you enjoy how you
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do it? Like maybe try adifferent stream of things, maybe try to
think of a different way of takingon a task. But like I understand
what you mean. Yeah, LikeI've been acting since I was ten or
eleven years old, so yeah,not not not like professionally or like as
good as now. Like I know, I take it seriously. I didn't
start taking it serious. I thinkthat I was sixteen. But still I've
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been acting since I was ten elevenyears old, or as my dad says,
you've been acting your whole life becauseyou've been acting like a like a
dramatic queen. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know, I
know, bro. Sorry, itwas the warm ups. You gotta get
your reps and before you start doingit, exactly, you gotta stretch and
warm up before you can execute theset, So I can't wait go to
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the gym later? Do you notgo yet? No? I have I
have a long day ahead of me, so the only time I have today
to work out is between two andfive. So but yeah, I know
it's a lot, a lot Ilike to I take I'll be honest,
I take on too much. Butit's it's I say. I say I
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take on too much in reference andreferring to people that say that to me.
I personally don't think I'm taking ontoo much because I'm old, Because
I know i'll take too much.I'm taking too much when when I go
okay, I need to stop.But yet I haven't yet been at that
point where I'm like, okay,I need to stop. Slowing down is
a different thing. Stopping is okay. You really need to check in on
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yourself. But yeah, that's personthe person again. That's what I've just
learned. You can't force your idealsor like your thoughts on someone. You
can just say it. So,I mean, as long as you're alive,
you're still kicking. My opinion wouldbe, don't go to the stopping
point. Don't get that part becauseI've I've burnt out, like hard last
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year, and it I just Ididn't even have the ability to stop,
so I had to keep creating.But I was like creating shit because I
didn't feel like doing it. Soyeah, yeah, I don't overwork yourself.
But also because that'll be bad toa point where once you're from experience,
I worked for like two or threeyears straight with no breaks, not
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saying like I didn't have a dayoff or like that where it's like I'm
doing this because it was through COVIDas well, right, you have nothing
else to do? Yeah, Andthen I burned out multiple times where I
was about to but I'm like,no, I can't burn out yet,
so I was like I'll delay it. I don't know how the hell I
did that, but it basically piledup to a point where like I just
crashed for a couple of months,and again I still had to make stuff
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during that because I still had clientsand work to do. So yeah,
yeah, that's my two cents onthe creative burnout. I'm gonna stop their
Yeah, yeah, maybe I shouldtake it, right, I don't know.
It's good to Also, you couldhave other people too, right,
so I appreciate the honesty. Yeah, just live life again. This career,
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I mean, it's mainly just capitalism. Am I gonna get do into
that too much? Because I don'tknow too much about it. But it's
like there's only so far you cango, like, go enjoy life.
Like we're in our early mid twenties. I don't know how old you are
anymore. I forgot, but wegot I shouldn't do Why wait until we're
forty and fifty to do it whenwe don't have the energy in the body.
Yeah yeah, or or or thereor the time. Yeah yeah,
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we're still We're still. We're still. We're still building the stairs. We
haven't climbed it yet. We're stillbuilding the stairs. Oh yeah. Percent
believe my prime is going to bein my late twenties early thirties. If
my life cann't handle that weight,I could. I couldn't even agree more
like I would say, mid twentiesto early thirties is going to be like
the prime years of my career.I'm excited. I'm so excited. But
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I got to keep working now soI can build that foundation and have a
solid solid base so I can soI can live three bounce around sounds a
little weird, but yeah, whatever, we're gonna votes, We're gonna roll
with it. Yeah, quick pointfor me. I feel like I try
to tell this to each person who'slike hand because it helped me. Although
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we're adults, are we've been livingfor a long time, our adult life
technically started when we're like between eighteento twenty twenty at the very least,
So like like, bro, no, no, that's we're on adults at
that point. We're legally an adult, but fuck that man. Yeah,
So it's like, what do youexpect like a two or three year old
to like know how to do X, Y and Z. Like I'm turning
twenty three like next week, soI'm like, I'm technically three years old
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as an adult, and I'm justlike I have to remind myself that before
I'm like, oh, I'm goingway too slow or X Y Z or
whatever all that type of ship.I like that idea though, is that
like twenty years old is like areasonable age to call yourself an adult?
And how are you're right now orin a week or you said week you're
in turn twenty three? Yeah,yeah, then in a week you're gonna
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be three years old. That's likeme right now, I'm maybe then considered
two years old. I'm twenty two. I have my birthday in March,
right, Like, I'm a no. One. Think that means you're a
two thousand, but yeah, it'slike two thousand. Yeah, Oh I'm
an old one. I'm an oldone because I'm number one. No,
(37:28):
I'm kidding, but yeah, no, I like that. I like that
idea though, is that I'm twoyears old, and that at that idea,
you're three years old in that idea, right, you're at two or
three years old, you're still kindof learning that talk and you know,
walk and run and do activities andyou know, figure out how your body's
working in this case, figure outhow our lives are working and find that
(37:49):
balance. I like that idea alot. It's good. Been good,
Yeah, I said, Like Isaid, you you seem a quiet guy,
but you've got so many fucking goodideas in your head right that way,
you're bright. Let's stay quiet becauseonly the real people can hear me
talk exactly. Absolutely. Yeah.Well we're coming up on our time soon.
(38:13):
Here, Is there anything else youwant to say or talk about?
I'm going to throw it to youbecause I haven't heard from you in a
minute, or knowing what the hellyou've been up to. And I just
found out your two thousand and one, So like what besides acting and all
that, because you've been doing itsince I guess forever. As your dad
says, Like what am I tryingto say? Like why a podcast?
(38:37):
Besides? Like, well, whyare you That's a good that's a good
one. Why are you doing whatyou're doing now? Podcast? Life,
acting work? Just running back toyou? Oh no, reverse the podcast.
So people that may or may notknow, people that of listened to
(39:00):
et cetera or not it might notknow that. In twenty twenty, Jack
and I lost a very very closefriend, uh to ours. He was
my childhood friend and also Jack's.Yeah, he was the longest friend I
ever had, and he passed awayfrom an accident. And Jack and I
(39:23):
were never close, So we gotclose obviously after that, and we started
talking, we started hanging out,we became friends, became really good friends.
And then there was one day wewere in McDonald's parking lot having ice
cream or having not blizzards what theycalled mc mcflury's thank you ever having mcflury's,
(39:45):
and we I told him. Iwas like, you know, I
really want to do like a podcast. I want to do some like voiceover
work and things like that. Andyou know I do my voiceover work here
and there as well. But Iasked him, you want to do a
podcast because we have great conversations.We talk all the time, this and
that, and he's like, yeah, you know what, I have no
(40:06):
idea how to do any kind ofart thing, but I'm down. So
I took the lead with that,and here we are two and a half
years later, we're now at thisis I think our eighty third or eighty
fourth episode. Nice and holy fuck, it's been a wild ride a lot
(40:27):
of late nights, but it getsgoing back to the like you said,
the reason why the podcast is Yeah, I just it was. It started
off as a hey, I wantto I have an idea to be I
want to hang out more with you. I love talking to you, this
and that to Jack, and andthen turn into like, I want to
work on my voice and with voiceoverand enunciating and things like that, which
(40:50):
you know, still when I'm recordingthis, it's different because I feel so
relaxed and it's our thing and thisand that, so I don't focus on
it as much, but yeah,I it's like a little baby. It's
a little side project. It's somethingthat helps me run, Like clockwork.
It's like it's like my my fulltime job, my family, my friends,
(41:15):
the podcast, and like a fewother minor things are all all assembled
into this like gear box, andthe gearbox is uh controls the clock and
you know, let's the clock workon the clock is obviously my time,
and you know it's uh. Itwas that one thing that was just missing,
(41:35):
I guess for me, like,yeah, I wanted to do something
that I could consistently work on.I missed the days where I used to
do YouTube when I was a kid. I used to have a YouTube channel
called mister Jake Turbo, which nowrebranded to just guy tanel terratory my name.
And I missed those YouTube days increating content because I had so much
(41:57):
fun and like you were talking aboutearlier, I got leads so much for
it, like being like people wouldcall me mister Jake Turbo and pushed me
into lockers in high school. Ididn't care though I was. I enjoyed
it. I enjoyed pressing upload ontoa video. I enjoyed editing at night
at like one in the morning whenI had class and like I have school
in like six seven hours. LikeI enjoyed that thrill and that adrenaline rush
(42:21):
of seeing like a view, likemy views go from ten views to like
twenty going, holy fuck, twentypeople, twenty hearts, twenty brains,
forty eyes. You know, likewhatever ten times twenty is two hundred fingers
watched a video. I mean,like, I don't know, it's weird
that way, but just that ideathat somebody took the time out of their
(42:43):
day to watch something I created,And that's where I found the beauty of
it. And that's why I withthe podcast. I do something I like
that idea and the similarity of it. Like again, I don't take it
crazy professionally, I like to keepit more relaxed and laid back, but
fuck, I enjoy it. Ithoroughly fucking enjoy doing this. And yes
there's some late hours. There havebeen multiple times, Like two days ago,
(43:06):
I had a Snapchat memory of twoyears ago where I literally fell asleep
at my desk editing the podcast andit was four am, and we released
it on Mondays at seven am.And so I then spent from four am
to four to five thirty editing it, went back to bed for an hour
and a half two hours, andthen went to class actually three hours.
(43:27):
Actually excited class at eight and thenwent to uh yeah, I went.
They went to class. But fuck, like, it's the same thing.
It's not easy, but it's it'sfun. I enjoy it. I enjoy
the challenge of it, and Ithink that's those are the reasons why I
love it and why I wanted tokeep doing it. But you know,
everything has to come to an end, and who knows what the future has
(43:49):
and hold for us. But I'mexcited for the next chapter and the next
next projects I work on in thefuture. I love creating art. That's
it. I feel like you feelthe same way. There's different mediums,
but at the end of the day, it's a wow thing. It's shit.
That's some good fucking art. Thatwas That was nice, like just
(44:16):
to hear for myself because what Isaid before, like I need to fall
back in love with filmmaking, LikeI like, I really love doing it,
but it's like that part of itwhere it's like I this is like
how you described It's like I gottaI gotta tap back into that one day,
see and hopefully so that's good tohear and sorry to hear about your
friend, but that's okay. Ihope you're doing good. I hope all
(44:42):
of this good and I'm I don'tknow. It's okay if you If you
want to try to find your loveagain, I recommend creating some kind of
like give sticky notes in your roomat all or anything like that. Yeah,
I got like a batch of stickynotes right here. Yeah, I
grab some grabs some sticky notes.Every single sticky note. It could be
(45:05):
two sicky notes, it could bea fucking hundred sicky notes. Write down
on a sticky note, what aspectsyou love about filmmaking and and and better
yet like what aspects of filmmaking orfilm that you love. And then make
a separate wall on another wall,because not the wall. It could be
literally a massive wall, but literallyanother wall that's perpendicular to it, and
(45:29):
write what makes you feel alive inlife and what things in life you love,
and see if there's a match,right, see what things can correlate
together. And that's that's how forme I found I've refound the fire and
the flame in my heart for whyI love art and stuff because during COVID
and other times, have obviously haddoubts. But when you're when you're reminded
(45:52):
of the things you love and thethings that make you alive, that's what's
gonna help you thrive in life.So that's an exercise I was taught by
their past therapists. I'm gonna dothat. That's all. I'm gonna do
that. But yeah, we dohave to end it off now, So
shut yourself out, r J.Let the people know where they can find
you, and it could be yeah, website, YouTube, Instagram, all
(46:15):
that, shebang, rip it go, all right, say us. So
I'm on ig it's underscore r Iju Okay, it's my first name,
Rigio in my last initial, somy name isn't Actually we're a joke for
all the people. I'm not gonnaget into that. But that's my Instagram
and then YouTube is just my fullname, Ragel Catheria. It's all lounked
(46:37):
in my you, so don't worry. But yeah, I feel free to
check it out. I try topost content of my own work to have
a portfolio piece, but also tohelp aspiring GPS or just indie filmmakers trying
to take that next step, andyeah, just give up free value and
just connect with people. So yeah, that's it. Nice good stuff.
(47:00):
Well, everyone, thank you somuch for listening to yet another episode of
Dumb and Delicious for some dumb butdelicious contents. If you aren't following us
already on the list and platforms,you can follow us on Spotify, iHeartRadio,
Google Podcasts, SoundCloud, Deezer podcast, Addict, pod Chaser, and
Geosavin as well. If you liketo give us any feedback, any criticism,
any ideas, talk about in futurepodcasts, and or send us a
(47:22):
message to include in future podcasts,you can follow us on a Dumb and
Delicious on Instagram and you can DMus there. You can also dm Jack
or I and our bios and ourown minds a gy performs Jacks is at
Gaming Nation twenty twenty two. Andyeah, and before we forget as well,
(47:42):
please download the episode. It helpsus create more content and helps show
that you are enjoying it as muchas we enjoy creating it. But yeah,
thank you friends for listening and wewill see you guys in the next
episode. Thank you. R J. Again for coming on the podcast and
well uh we'll see everyone later.Take it easy and get chow
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