Youth In Action with WEAVER Mari Dela Cruz

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Youth voices are vital in climate and environmental justice.  

What they’ve inherited is the advancement of things like smart phones and also the destabilization of most natural systems.  

On this penultimate episode of Earthmates’ first season, we look to the future with 19 year old Mari Dela Cruz.  

Taking the quiz during the recent Youth Climate Summit at Lewis & Clark Law School, Mari embraced how her Weaver Earth Archetype affirmed her passion for bringing people together and bridging gaps combines her passions for mental health, diverse populations, computers, and entrepreneurship.

Listen in as she shares how her Gen Z playfulness helps her navigate the environmental action she knows is needed.

Learn more about Mari via Instagram or TikTok
@mariposa.maids
@makeithappen.mari
@scrapbook.pdx


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And if you liked this episode, you'll also enjoy my 2 part podcast with Weaver Type Stephanie Zhong.  Episodes 4 & 5.  

Or Weaver Tressa Yonekawa.  Episode 13.

Or even double Weavers Sej and Anabelle.  Episode 15. 

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Episode Transcript

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Gen Z has a really good head on their shoulders. We're also the most informed

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generation. We have like the world at our fingertips comparatively to I mean
we're the first generation that grew up with phones in our hands essentially.
Just so many of us now are just so educated, sometimes not by our own will,

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forcibly educated by the media and it's great and amazing but it also
impresses upon us and needs to act because we see all of it happening in it's
it makes us want it makes us upset and makes us want to do things.

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Welcome to the EarthMates podcast together we explore how to find your path from
climate anxiety to community action by asking who are you because just like
any relationship that matters so get ready to be raw and real but also playful

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and silly with me Chief Relationship Officer Amber Peoples as we discover
what's possible through the lens of the five Earth Archetypes curiosity and
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Welcome my friend today as we record this session we are heading into a week of

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Pacific Northwest summers that I remember from when I first moved here 20
years ago where the lows during the night times are in the high 50s and during
the day we get up to the high 70s low 80s and it's really interesting a sense
of nostalgia that's coming over me as I as I look at that forecast because as our

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climate is changing and temperatures are heating up and temperature indexes are
changing and here in the Pacific Northwest where we have the story of being the
place full of rain and Mediterranean climates we have indeed been heating up in
our summer times where we've reached a hundred or the high 90s pretty much most
of the summer this year and so it's really interesting to feel into my body and

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my psyche this feeling of oh wow we're gonna have this week ahead of us that
feels like almost a memory a very pleasant memory so this sense of nostalgia so
I'm really feeling that today and wherever you are whatever time of year it is
whatever part of the hemisphere it is that you are in right now what's going on

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with your temperature around you your atmosphere around you I'm gonna actually
close my eyes and silently count to five and invite you to just take this moment to
tune into what is it is it something that feels different is it something that
feels nostalgic or somewhere in between but let's begin the five seconds now

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thank you now I'm delighted to introduce you to Weaver type Mari Dela Cruz we

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actually met just three days ago at the youth climate summit put on by the
Green Energy Institute at Lewis and Clark Law School it was a summer day that
brought together about 25 youth from across Oregon to meet learn and discuss
how to work with community leaders to put climate actions policies and
legislation into motion truly an incredible group of teens ready to

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influence their communities and futures we started the day encouraging everyone
to change the question by identifying and imagining through their five earth
archetypes Mari got a 20 out of 20 on the Weaver archetype and then during the
first raffle of the day Mari jumped at the chance to record this podcast episode

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with me so now we are here together today and I'm so delighted to have you here Mari
without further ado I would love to ask what is your version of this story
absolutely thank you so much Amber coming into the conference I actually found
out about it through a local youth organization called Sunrise PDX I've been to

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quite a few of their events and have recently joined the Portland Rise campaign
to push a green new deal for Portland Metro and housing equality however seeing
the event I had a free Tuesday and I wanted to come by and meet more youth that

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were interested in environmental justice as I am and hearing and seeing the ways
that Amber specifically is taking environmental justice and putting such a
different spotlight than just how I'm used to with just straight going to law

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maker offices and getting more in touch with the me inside of it was really
interesting to me and I would and I love to get the chance to be able to
understand more deeply the intersectionality between environmentalism and
media production I was from the moment that we took the quiz and I was reading

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more about the earth archetypes website I was like I need to sit down and talk to
this woman there is a conversation to be have here whether that the good in
lighthearted or about like just theater in life production or more deeply
about the environmental issues that play our society right now either way I

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just know I have the talk to Amber well I am delighted because also Mari definitely
had this vibrancy and and so I am so delighted that it's this this mutual
excitement and respect for each other and so one of the things that I would
actually love in this moment to to chat with you about Mari is that I know that

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you refer to yourself as a computer wizard and when we talked about the the
quiz during that that time we had during the summit on Tuesday is you
mentioned kind of you you talked about a bit about the experience of taking the
quiz and in particular you kind of talked about what it was like to go through
it the 28 questions the user experience and so considering that of all 20 episodes

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of this first season you are one of two guests that actually took this version of
the quiz which is more relatively recent using a different software that allows
people to see all five results rather than just one allow for a scale instead of
multiple choice all these things but I know that you had some thoughts about what
it was like to just take it and actually you know press the things and move

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through the system and I'm curious what it was like for you to take the quiz
itself. Yeah absolutely comparatively to so many other personality type
quizzes I mean Myersburg and New Graham those are just such big names and I feel
like specifically the 16 personalities website is created in such a way where

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you're able to just completely go through that gray area and I love that the
earth archetypes just has the one before so you don't just fall in that middle
because I mean we all are kind of wish you off you with so many different things in
our life I mean it's all contextually I can go one way for this if it so

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happens to be that way or I can completely disagree with it if it so happens to be
another way but I also love that the earth archetypes also just provide specific
examples for leading to the prompts to really help readers understand kind of
where they want to go with the question because it can be interpreted in so

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many different ways and I feel like that really kind of creates the hold up to
get to the end of the quiz because you just think a little too much about each
and every question when it's supposed to be just your first instinct I do also
really appreciate the amount of data that is able to be driven at the end of

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the quiz I am such a numbers person and I love being able to see that donut
back and like comparatively to my other possible types and I also really enjoy
just from a personality with standpoint that the earth archetypes website
doesn't dive in to exactly what every single archetype is you actually have to

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see that information you want to learn yourself and I feel like that immerses
people so much deeper than just here's the possible one you can get take this
quiz and I feel like it's just a really well designed immersive quiz I
definitely personality wise feel like as the quiz develops it's gonna get a lot

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more quirky I feel like there's a lot of visual elements that can be touched upon
but of course you've had to have to start at the basis and I'm really excited to
watch it continued to develop especially the fact that it runs so well on mobile
and that is one of the hardest things with so many online programs is being

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able to port it to mobile devices for that accessibility and I mean
their third types website runs completely well haven't encountered a bug when I
went through it the quiz lowered completely fine and formatted completely
correct myself whatever did it the job well done awesome well thank you it's you

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know part of it was hunting down the right different softwares to use because once
I found the software that I'm using for the quiz which is actually something
called score app I got really really excited and so I then from there I've
actually built it out myself because it's it's I find that at this stage of
Earth archetypes it's really important for me to get my fingers in there and

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really touch so many different points because I'm learning so much with every
step of it I think the the key piece that I heard with with your comment there is
the next level up for you perhaps would be visuals within those questions
what add another layer of understanding what are kind of these in some ways

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unique questions because I'm trying to get at certain angles with each one is is
that what I'm hearing yeah absolutely I also think just for how expressive of a
person you are and I think your specific Earth archetype it would just really
tie everything in to have specific visuals that go with each of these

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questions and whether that's just like silly stock photos or like actual
example photos to go along with the questions and I think we talked about it
really passively like a Buzzfeed kind of like quiz kind of way I definitely think

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it will elevate the quiz in that way that's a really good point that you brought up
that I hadn't connected before which is I'm asking how do you feel about this
question how does it relate to you and so visuals often help with that
emotional aspects that's that's a really good point that I hadn't connected
before so thank you for that and why do we want to work out that and now I want to

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dive into your specifics I'm super excited about that
absolutely and so weaver you got a 20 out of 20 which is amazing and and then
when we look at the donor graph and in fact in with the magic of editing we're

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gonna have this moment my version the back end version of that donor graph
comes up where individual donuts for all the different types but of course we
always want to look first at that that highest score and so when when you took
the quiz and you got the 20 out of 20 on weaver and because of the setting we

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were in I asked people to skip the video because otherwise we would have like
25 videos competing for attention in a room and so I sent people to the
report that gets emailed right away and I'm curious during that experience and
you were starting to kind of dive into that and and then I followed up by
giving little brief descriptions of each of the type within that setting did it

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feel from kind of that instinctual first hit that the weaver felt resonant or
did it did you have some reservations as we as you dove into it?
reading more about the weaver type and just seeing that I mean wanting to

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bring people together is exactly kind of all-life, strut them to do for like a
good amount of my life and I feel like it definitely resonated with me and my
personal mission and values. Beautiful so that that piece that I often talk

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about when I talk about the weaver is that the verb interconnected and when it
came to this sense of weaving that that term is interconnected and and when you
when you heard that did you did you what happened within your brain was it or was

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it more of a feeling like was it oh I'm starting to see how this fits these
different pieces or it's a gut instinct of oh this feels a certain way to hear
this about myself like what was kind of those first initial responses to
getting the weaver as the archetype? Absolutely it felt honestly just more

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affirming that I know I know who I am this quiz is telling me I absolutely know
that I want to bring people together and bring thoughts and ideas together and
like have all of these again you just make everything so interconnected I
definitely for the longest time felt like it was so strange that I had just so

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many different like interests and passions and I wanted to bring these people
together with these people who would never talk if I never made them talk and
to receive the weaver archetype and see that hey other people are also trying
to fit puzzle pieces where am I not seeing like they absolutely fit definitely felt

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just reaffirming that's that's so interesting that you you phrase it in that
particular way because I've I've had a couple other weaver interviews for the
for this first season and at this point every single one of you have made a
comment like that about how it felt like with having all these different

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strings and weaving them together that it felt in some ways alienating or kind of a
challenge and one of the weavers that I interviewed she actually talked about
how there was this 1981 commercial about Reese's peanut butter cups where one
person's like walk with a chocolate bar one person's walking with a jar of peanut

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butter and they like bump into each other and they giggle about how like my
chocolates in your peanut butter and your pure whatever and voila Reese's peanut
butter cups are created and she joked about how she had to kind of have that
moment for herself where she's like oh yeah these these all actually do go
together and now she actually her her career is around helping leaders that have

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a similar thing weave their weave their stories together about their their
entrepreneurial businesses and why they have all these different elements another
one she helps corporate execs with their relationships within their HR of
their businesses as well as the relationships with their partners and their
families and really integrates how those are the same thing and so it's and she

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mentioned the same thing when I brought up that at a at a certain point weavers
feel like it's it's it's a no-brainer that these things come together but that's
actually getting to that point can be kind of tough there can be this point of
first trying to figure out why do I have all these interests interests why do I

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have all these threads why do I have all this diversity of of elements together
and so it's super interesting and I just want to really honor that especially
with you know the other two that I interviewed they're in their 40s and they've
had that time to go through that process of finding it for themselves and and you

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at the age of 19 are kind of beginning that journey to figure out in this world
how to pull these different strings in this this amazing superpower that you
have so I just want to like first of all congratulate for that aha moment because
it's a big one that can take a lot longer to get to and can be kind of a frustrating

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process along the on long the way so I'm really excited that that's something
that's really resonating for you right now and giving you that empowerment to
really jump on that and see what's possible with all these different threads
in that aspect there was definitely a time where I was just like I need to focus

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on one thing like I can't I can't just spread myself too thin and do this but then
I recently in the last like six months came to the conclusion that I am just
meant to spread myself really thin and touch all of these different things
because it's just what fulfills me and makes me feel better is to connect all of

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these different things and I am with this kind of affirmation I'm just
embracing that part of myself and not allowing myself to be on that one track
mind because I just can't be yeah and that's that's what's really interesting
then to dive into the results that you have in the other archetypes where we

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had molecule at 85% and then embodiment metaphor and network we're all at 65%
and when I dove into the specific results there were two trends that I saw
that I thought were really interesting one was the fact that of the five

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questions that I asked for each of the archetype categories for the questions
revolve around the superpowers of that type and then one actually addresses kind of
the challenge in that type the things that can go wrong with that type and where
you need support from others perhaps or need to do some reflection on in order

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to figure out how to navigate these these challenges and what was
interesting is that with weaver you did put a four out of four for that one with
the weaver and then for all of the rest of them you had super low scores in the
challenge area and so I thought that was that was super interesting but the one
that actually I was so excited to see about yours that I've been also really

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tracking the pulse on is that every single one of the of the five categories has a
question around problem solving about if you have a problem of some kind that you
need to solve and it's it's phrased a little bit differently in each one I
don't just blatantly say you solve a problem by doing this but like one
begins with when solving problems another one starts with when addressing

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problems another one starts with I look for key solutions and one of the things
that I really want to applaud you for is that it looks like both in regards to like
how much time you spent on these different questions as well as the really good
variety of numbers you gave that question I could tell you really thought about

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that one in particular for each of the categories and keep in mind that these
questions are randomized never will there be a quiz until you know we reach
however many numbers of randomization you can get will there be a quiz that
happens in the same order and I very much did that on purpose because I didn't
want it to be like well these are obviously all of this type of question and

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these are obviously all of this type it was like almost impossible for me to
like like specific ones because I was like she's trying to find something
about like someone specifically looking to connect things together she's kind
of looking for someone that's like trying to like problem solve just by

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textbook but I couldn't really define each of the other types just by taking
the quiz which applause to you applause to to randomization and the in
diversity in that aspect because I really I really wanted to figure out and
then hone in on the one that I wanted and it wasn't possible when I look at
that wonderful diversity of responses that you gave to that similar question

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was it a conscious thing that you were taking your time and noticing oh she's
just asking all of these different ways of asking about problem solving and I
really want to like check in is it my intuition that tells me or is it my
logic that tells me or all these kind of different ways that I describe it and
divvy it up or was it you just truly in the moment of reading the question and

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this is my gut instinct and I'm gonna press the right number but I'm curious
because this is probably one of the best examples I've seen of
giving a more spread out set of numbers to that particular type of question
around problem solving and so I'm curious what your experience of that style of

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question in particular was I did see the thread that like you're asking
multiple problem solving questions and it definitely was like a moment where I
sat down was like okay am I answering this because I want to be perceived this way
or because I actually feel this way and I think for the problem solving question

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I was definitely like bouncing between how do I actually go about these issues and
how do I in practice go about doing these things outside of this
physical setting so that's interesting so it sounds like overall the experience of
the quiz was this kind of fluid dichotomy or even maybe internal argument

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around perception versus who am I really in and how am I going to show up
absolutely I think that's a big again I don't say issue that's a big thing
that comes up with personality quizzes is people definitely answer in such a way

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where that's how they want to be seen by other people especially if these
results are going to be shown or exchanged with your peers and all of that
and it's difficult to separate that self versus that image of self
because you can definitely think one way and talk another

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I even remember doing something similar when I was taking those quizzes that
like school counselors give you a year senior year of high school
where they're supposed to help you kind of figure out what job that you're
that you're going to have in the future and I actually remember working so hard
to make sure that I got a count which I just absolutely laugh at now

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very less feel from I mean that's like some parallel universe for sure that you
became an accountant totally well and what what became a really beautiful
aha moment for me was when I entered the live event production phase of my
career and and realized oh my my greatest skill set actually that I

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contribute here is that I organize creative energy so I was the one with the
clipboard and the timelines and the spreadsheets and the budgets and so in that
way that piece of me got to be expressed but in this place where
it was in this very chaotic creative imaginative emergent kind of

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setting and I'm curious with you as as you look from that weaver type of all of
these interconnected pieces and the the problem solving you know with with the
weaver type that one in particular is when addressing problems I work to bridge

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gaps and bring things ideas and people together I'd actually love for you to talk
a little bit about this phrase bridge gaps because I find for people that are not
weavers that phrase actually leaves people a little confused when I've done
focus groups with people if they weren't a weaver that one was always like I'm not

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really sure what you're talking about there but if they were weaver they're like oh
yeah I totally get it for moving on and so I'm curious for you like that's an
example in my life where I kind of bridge this internal gap where I figured out
how is this accountant side of me fit within this really kind of
expressive creative imaginative world and for you when you're bridging gaps

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either internally or with things that are outside of you and you're collaborating with
what does bridging gaps look like for you I absolutely love metaphors and
analogies and bridging gaps in that way plays into how much I love that expressions can

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it or idioms and all of that can express so much more than what we can express just
with the basic English language and I totally understand how maybe it's just
so much more resonant for weavers to understand what it means to bridge gaps because we're constantly

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doing it in every part of our life for me I feel like that's kind of the role that I've taken
upon myself in most if not all aspects of my life whether that's getting my family to actually
plan an event and show up to an event altogether at once or get a group project to actually

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for people to put their ideas down and then get roles and have people come together
in any aspect of my life I feel like I had to bridge a gap of communication between people
because one person thinks one way one person thinks another way I could totally see how you both

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think those ways let me show you each other how this person thinks and this person thinks so
that you can actually talk and figure out what you're doing together I love that I love I love
and I what I partly what I love about that is two of the kind of more common names that I give

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the weaver type is facilitator and organizer and then that quality really kind of shines in your
in your example there and and that lived experience of it and it also brings me back to when we did
the exercise at the youth climate summit where I gave this example of of a person named John
who in this scenario he was a 20 year old who was inheriting a thousand acre ranch

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but has also been seen the drought that they've been experiencing for the last 10 years
and wondering what's even possible with it anymore and I got everybody in their different types
and since asked what what suggestion would you give John from from this lens of the different types
and kind of what was interesting for me to experience in that process was keeping in mind why

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we were all there we were there because it was a group of people that were community organizers
and wanting to learn more about the legal side of how do we address climate policies and actions
and legislation is that it became this really interesting moment where four out of the five groups
talked about some kind of organizing gathering of some kind but the part that I thought was super

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interesting was within those four we could still see the slight bents of of the different
archetypes and the part that made me just like giggle and I even remember kind of exploding with laughter
and talking about it more during during our time together was that the weavers made sure that it was a party

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that there was a pot look and there was I know maybe music and all these other things
we said 20 acres all right this is a festival and that's what I'm curious about is in that conversation
when you were coming to that potential solution to share with this imaginative character John

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what was the discussion what what brought you to that place?
Honestly I'm very to be around so many people that had the same kind of like breeding gaps mentality or
like everyone contribute and then let's figure out something together essentially what happened is
we all gathered into our little circle yeah and then people just started spitting ideas one person

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started writing stuff down and then at the end we compiled all our ideas and then put it into just
a understandable sentence to really exemplify what we wanted to do we wanted to host a pot look that
would be a fundraiser to help offset the drought and then also bring the community together to

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give John more people to help on the farm as well of course the center has to be food in some ways
that people would come because I guess we know what people want you know and it was honestly really

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insightful to just have so many people that are so willing to just hear everyone else's ideas and go
okay yeah that's good that's good that's good let's get that all down and this is what we're working
with sweet now let's make it happen we were like already ready to like plan the pot lock and
like already like get there we were like discussing like DJs already oh I love that that's fantastic

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and and I just love hearing that those pieces of because it years was definitely the Weaver group was
by far the largest of the five archetypes at the summit and and it's so interesting to hear that
you're doing exactly what it is that I imagine as Weebers do which is you had these individual threads

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these individual pieces and within a pretty short amount of time like I think you only
wearing your groups for like two or three minutes it was pretty short and so you had a group of like
10 people to try to get condensed to one solution and it sounds like in a very quick amount of time
you're able to hear each other out and and integrate into a concise idea that included it all

(33:56):
pretty much immediately yeah it was honestly the easiest group I've ever had to work with is just
like aren't cool sweet everyone was just on the same page oh I love that I love hearing that
and and some curious then too because in the quiz there are actually three questions

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that are outside of the archetypes themselves but are me checking in on some interesting things to
kind of figure out how to help people with action steps and one of the ones that you put
for on for out of for was that you would like a community to practice how to navigate talking about

(34:40):
and dealing with climate change and I'm curious now that you've you know you've been on this quest to
find this community you had this interesting experience of the summit where you're like oh these kind
of feel like my people but I'm wondering as especially from a weaver standpoint which is often about
you know bringing together community what is it that you feel like you are looking for in a community

(35:05):
that would that would fit this desire you have to have a place of practice to navigate talking and
dealing with climate change the speaker from Ashland I want to it was our cat it seemed like they
really kind of encompass what I would desire in a youth climate action coalition where it's just

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passionate people who want to come together and build community around this one thing I think
the biggest reason why I would say I put for on that question specifically is I just love meeting
people I love talking to people all the time it's just being outgoing and connecting people and

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like tapping someone on the shoulder and pretending to be their best friend is like just what I love
doing and I want to continue to do that so I saw that question as hey I have a community of people
like minded in that aspect you want you want to meet them maybe and I said yes yes please please

(36:26):
let me meet them please please please so essentially I just love I love talking to people I love
getting to know different perspectives I don't think I will live enough life to experience all of
the things that I want to in life so I just want to take everyone else's thoughts and experiences

(36:47):
and try to make them my own such a such an epic spectrum of its own that I just such delight to hear
you talk about and and I am curious about that youth piece we were there for a youth summit you are a
teenager a part of the reason for the summit was the foundational I think value people had to have

(37:10):
to be a part of it whether they were like me as a speaker or you as a participant was valuing
the youth voice particularly in the realm of climate but even like in the realm of legislation
and the realm of policymaking and so I'm curious from from your perspective as being this person that

(37:32):
we label youth why do you think it is important to have that voice whether it's yours in particular
or the type of people that you were there at that summit with involved in those types of conversations
yeah I honestly think my generation I've heard this from so many other people as well so I know

(37:55):
it's just not my ideal but my generation is going to be the generation that does something we are
very headstrong and very loud and very set in what we believe is right we've already done so many

(38:19):
things I mean the youth have let so many different protests and different gatherings and so many
amazing activist causes and I think just pressing upon the importance of hearing the youth is

(38:46):
honestly amazing to hear when I when I was in high school that was not long ago when I was in high school
of it definitely felt a lot more difficult especially aga freshman to be heard in a climate aspect

(39:07):
and I was definitely given a platform at times but local lawmakers did not make me feel like
I was recognized or heard because of how long-winded those meetings are and because of how
almost disregarded a lot of things were I remember I was at a climate action gathering outside of

(39:44):
I used to live in St. Louis County outside of the North County town hall and there was someone that
was saying how like what we're doing is pointless because they've been doing it since the 70s and
nothing's changed and it was such an eye-opening conversation to talk to this person and like

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I understand the frustration but also saying that the youth if the youth couldn't do anything then
that you can't do anything now is it's hard to name and I know that's an ideal that a lot of people
also adopt and that is not the only person that believes that you know we're too far gone to

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actually change anything but I mean the the girls in ashlin are doing amazing so many new
projects are doing insane things and I mean we are the future we will continue to be the future
we will be in those lovely legislative seats at some point if all goes according to plan we will be

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the next people to enact these deals and make these decisions and it's so so important for us to
understand what's going on around us because it's ours as well and we're going to start being
taxpayers and homeowners and all of that stuff if it all goes according to plan and

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it's just so important for us to be heard because we have really good ideas and we bring
we're also really funny we're just really funny I really silly generation that makes some
something so seriously and something so unseriously and I just think

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Gen Z has a really good head on their shoulders we're also the most informed generation
we have like the world at our fingertips comparatively to I mean we're the first generation
that grew up with phones in our hands essentially just so many of us now are just so

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educated sometimes not by our own will forceably educated by the media and it's great and amazing
but it also impresses upon us I need to act because we see all of it happening and it's
it makes us want it makes us upset and makes us want to do things so we act because that's

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what we know how to do and we continue to and I'm really proud of my generation I really love Gen Z
also and I love what you said about about play that you know that fits in
so much with with the realm of why I do storytelling as we know that we actually learn

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so much faster when it's through play like study after study will prove that it's it's
drastically faster like anywhere from 10 to 100 times faster when it's through play then through a
very serious situation or very perhaps dry

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we we make things so fun and so engaging
it's just because it's what helps like it stimulates your brain so much more than
any lecture again and I know that where this where this makes me think of nexus I know something

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that's really important for you is this cross place of environmentalism and mental health
and that sounds like a similar aspect is you know part of the reason I developed earth archetypes is
to help people get out of that stuck place when it comes to asking the question what can I do

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and getting stuck there for all kinds of reasons and and the overwhelm that can come with that the
anxiety that can come with that and a variety of other things but I know that this this a place
of mental health and environmentalism are really important to you and I'm curious what it is
for you that that brings your focus there I am definitely a person that deeply struggles with my own

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brain as I believe so so many other people do and the thought that the earth is dying doesn't help
with the fact that my brain is like well I mean if everything else aromas is going like why do
anything at all you know and getting out of that space and understanding that I can act and I have

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an impact on whether or not the earth goes with us is empowering and also nerve-wracking to
all as a responsibility and it becomes such a weird place to balance a lot I mean constantly

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reading so many heartbreaking things and not being listened to by lawmakers is damaging it makes
you feel so unheard and almost like the work that you put in doesn't matter and that's

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disheartening and it makes you want to stop doing all of it and I feel like
because of how dismissive lawmakers tend to be on these aspects it makes the uphill so much harder

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and it makes it just so much more mentally challenging to continue to fight the same fight I mean
as the person that said they've been fighting so the 70s and nothing's changed I could only imagine
the mental turmoil that they've gone through with why am I doing this what is the point of doing all

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of this when it's just so disheartening every time and I mean it's it's all like psychological
game when you're sitting through those meetings and having to digest the information but also having
to not fall asleep listening to all that information and I think a lot of people don't recognize how

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the way that the earth is dying is impacting them because I mean there's so many small things that
impact your mental health that the earth is also suffering for I mean I would love to see

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be there's supposed to be like a meteor shower in like a week or two and that would definitely help
you know bring some solace that there's really cool things in the world but I'm going to have to
drive like four or five hours because of the air pollution and like pollution that is all around us

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and in the same name there's so many small things that are being taken away from youth that again they
just might not realize will affect their mental health a lot of I Portland organ is very about this

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parks will always stay trees will always stay but in a lot of places that aren't organ a lot of
parts are being demolished for some other industrialization and I mean none of that's helping the environment
none of that's helping anyone's mental health and there's just so much that comes with being an activist

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because it's so hard to constantly scream about what you believe in and for it to fall on deaf ears
yeah so really the the theme that I hear in that answer is the that it feels like at this point is

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it's not only the the environment itself in our relationship with the environment but also
the relationship with those for lack of a better term that are in power that are not listening
and and we know as social creatures not being listened to is a is an overwhelmed mainly

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intense experience in the sense of belonging and safety that we feel like we need to get from our tribe
and our the people around us and so if we're not being listened to it really elevates that fear of
safety that is compounded by the fact that there's a real physical challenge also with our safety right

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now when it comes to things happening to the climate so that's actually kind of what I heard in your
answer was this this two different threats to safety and and the environment fits the kind of
physical one and the mental health pieces that not being listened to and so I'm curious then in your

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world and knowing that you are a bridgegapper how do you look at this challenge and try to
imagine solutions I know that with your weaver type you have a lot of different interests and a lot
of different things that you're doing in fact you're going to be using your computer wizardry to work
with the American connections core I also know that you're developing and Mariposa

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Mayids as a housekeeping service that uses eco-friendly products so I'm curious as you look at these
two really intense and interrelated challenges to our safety how are you looking at solutions
as a weaver I do love so many so many different things and with American connection core I am

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working towards helping provide more digital letters so we're to underprivileged
committees in Washington County it's definitely what fulfills me and I am really excited to be able to
meet again so many people I just love talking to people all the time and in that aspect I definitely

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want to be able to once I am establishing digital literacy education I would love to establish
environmental education and how everyone is able to bring just really small sustainable
practices into their life I carry a medal straw with me every day I reuse the same water bottle

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that's messed up for the last year and also to teach people that it's okay to not be the perfect
sustainability person either because it's such a systemic issue that individual people can't

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solve it by just changing all of their house with products to be eco-friendly and by reducing all
of their waste and all of their single use plastic everyone can try their absolute hardest but
also teaching people that it's okay to mess up and it's really corporations that are

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contributing so much more to the degradation of our environment rather than us as individuals
but we're going to continue to try and advocate for the right solutions
in bringing more sustainable practices into my day-to-day life

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I am opening my own house-speaking business I did a bunch of housekeeping on and off while I was
down in California and coming back up here I just decided that it is something I really enjoy
having a clean space really matters to me and I understand that it's hard for a lot of people

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to keep up that space and I want to provide people also with the ability to choose to use
eco-friendly products I have an entirely eco-friendly setup and I have an entire chemical-free
package as well to really just touch upon the different needs of people because it feels good to

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use products that aren't both a day-to-day environment and it feels good to come back to a home that
doesn't completely smell like lice all and there are just so many small things that so many people
can do to practice sustainability and I mean everyone else has the ability to incorporate such small

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things in their life as a weaver I can see that everyone has the potential to just adopt small things
to either better the environment or better their own relationship looking at me.
As we come to the end of the conversation there are two questions that I always love to ask and

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actually kind of walked into it there at the end when you talked about your relationship with the
environment because I think that's a really key piece of this equation is as we look at this feeling
that the environment is this adversary or this this this thing that is negative it's it's how do we

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how do we I don't know if it's the verb is reestablish or if it's what exactly the action is here but
I do think this this end result of getting to a place where we have a reciprocal relationship with
the environment is really important and I'm wondering when you hear that especially considering

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with how you just ended that last you know response what do you imagine as you think about what a
reciprocal relationship with the environment looks like. And or a super cool way giving back to
me or as the earth has given to us but really being able to I mean either in small ways volunteer to help

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plant trees or you or clean up spaces is definitely what helps me feel like I'm giving back to
me environment. My ideal or super cool relationship would be a close-to-home setting system where
like I have chickens that lay eggs in the eggs I turn into calcium for my fart in my fart my like have

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fish that like a whole hydroponic system you know I've thought about this I like every once in a
while wanting to just completely go off the grid but in my own personal aspect I do feel like I
appreciate the earth very consciously I try when it's not like 80 90s oh my gosh it's so hot right now

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when it's not like this I typically try and go outside and gone trails and really just like sit
down and appreciate how beautiful the earth is because it just really is and I feel like going

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here I did a life who take it so for granted how amazing everything around this is looks and feels
and I feel like Mother Nature just also wants to be appreciated as every person does.
And so thank you for that and as we wrap our time this is where I ask the question that comes as a twist

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at the end which is what's something you wish I would have asked what what would you like to share
or have the listener ask themselves or me ask you for you to give the answer but what's something
that you wish we would have included in today's conversation. Tell me what was she asked about my
my cat I love my cat oh my gosh I love my cat um my best one well yeah I don't know I was

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I was just about Garfield I was just about this little guy in age like
but like that doesn't have a deal with you though environmentalism at all it's just like
I just wanted my background to be really really engaging for those around us
for those watching the video on YouTube I wanted them to have something interesting to look at around us

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what I love about your response to this is you know talked about how you feel as a generation
Gen Z is playful and that we need to remember to do that and and I think here at the end you
you brought it you brought that playfulness whether it's a stuffed cat or a real cat or anything in
between that that sense of remembering to to to laugh together and to come together over the things

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that that just um connect us why is this just too serious like everything is just too serious like
things just need to be silly so many so many things your way to like I can
I've signed so many papers I just need to be silly well we're not gonna sign any papers but we

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are gonna sign off of the podcast today oh look at that
so thank you so much for joining me today my my i'm so excited to to get this up for everybody to listen to
and just a delight to get to know you better thank you it was lovely talking to you and i'm so

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