April 26, 2024 • 44 mins
En este episodio una invitada que nos enseñará a través de la psicología el poder de la mente para manejar situaciones y procesos en el BMX.
- Natalia Salamanca-25 años Psicóloga de la Universidad El Bosque Máster en coaching deportivo y psicología de alto rendimiento - UNISPORT Barcelona Deportista de bmx desde el 2009, y dedicada al alto rendimiento desde 2015 al 2019 .
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- Host: Alejo Vargas.
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M s b S, Hello Well, Comery Boy, Thin Special Tracks and
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Walt to few t p s,das Go The State, The Tracks,
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Than n Ouren Fabulous Photographs. Andnow I do want to welcome you to
this new episode of the first BMXpodcast in Spanish, in an episode that
is going to have a very specialguest before. I also want to thank
our sponsors, a ple Way PodcastNetwork, a lew Uno bm X Club
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in the two hundred thirty- fivenorth of the city of Bogotá. There
' s a lot of anxiety thesedays. I' m telling you who
our guest is, because the WorldChampionship is coming. He spent the Pan
American Championship in Bogotá and the LatinAmerican Championship at that stop, in that
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international race that took place on theCarlos Ramírez track, were about a thousand
registered runners. Obviously, the volumeof Colombia, quite strong and from many
countries that accompanied us in a career, was very important. I think it
can be a career for Latin Americaafter the World Cup. I think it
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' s the most important race.The organization was very good, what I
saw could not be there, butI saw many happy faces, good organization,
a good show. So congratulations tothe entire Pan- American and Latin
American organization that took place in Bogotá, Colombia and today a guest who will
share very special things with us.She has been and will remain a bm
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X runner. That psychologist also hasa master' s degree in all these
topics that help us and that helpthe runners to have better presentations to strengthen.
We not only strengthen the physical part, but the mental part. It
' s fundamental. So Natalia Salamanca, who is also very young and is
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already quite intellectually prepared to help us, and I want to invite her and
greet her. Hey, Natalia,how you doing. How are you doing?
Hello, Alejandro, how are you? I am very well, very
excited to be here, super superhappy to be able to share, from
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my experience and also from the Academy, everything that I have been learning throughout
these years and, above all,to be able to share with you that,
in the end is what I seeknot to give that knowledge that the
mind of mental training ceases to bealso something so far from reality. It
is part of a training as wellas the technical part, of the physical
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part. Super super important and sotake advantage right now that is also very
booming. Now many of the thingsthat sound are trending. So everyone wants
to go that way, you haveto take advantage of it and definitely,
the science- based, sport-based mental training is very booming and you
have to definitely do it. Makesa difference what a thrill it is to
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be here. Thank you so muchfor the Natalia invitation. Tell us well
some of your experience as a sportsmanand now you are still a sportsman,
but as a professional in that trainingof mental preparation. Tell us a little
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bit about your profile and we comein with several questions that I have for
you clearly yes, well as asportsman, I started very small. I
started when I was nine. Igot to the Mario Soto track, with
my mom, with my brother,we saw the bic Cross track. There
were no girls and I want thatsuper animated, I want that sport and
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there it started as my sports career. At first it was very, to
go around on the track, toenjoy the weekends, but things went away
and then I started to like withmore discipline going more days during the week,
competing nationally, competing I also startedto compete outside. I did a
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lot of things while I was inthe sport. I always needed, like
that psychological component, that part whereyou start to regulate those emotions, because
you definitely get to a competition outsideand then you start. I don'
t have too much expectation on me. I have to win, which in
the end is the goal that mostpeople have when they go out or when
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they compete in general, I haveto win and it is to put too
much pressure on them. Then Ihad the good opportion ready. I'
m done with school. But duringschool I was very, very focused.
I was already in a more professionaltraining, doing double gymnasium, track and
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so on. In this case,I already knew that I liked psychology and
was in the sport part. ThenI did not know how to unite them,
because at that time I had noknowledge that there was a psychology based
on sport. But I, sinceI mean, I really like this.
I entered the University in the twothousand sixteen to study psychology at the University
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of the Forest, and there,I continued to study and in my sports
discipline was already what I tell you, training full full, because I was
already competing internationally. Then I hada good level at the time. What
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else does he tell you? Well, you' ve said a lot of
things and I' m gonna startasking you why it happened to me.
It happened many times, it happensless and less, but that first international
race, why it costs so muchwork and produces that theme is that it
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is quite the topic that can bedrawn from it, especially because, well,
you have prepared a lot for thattype of competition, but everything is
based on the experience, as whenyou are going to ride bike for the
first time you will not make itperfect, then you should go to any
competition with very clear objectives and verywell structured objectives. If it is your
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first international competition, why do youput so much burden on yourself and rather
the goal can be to enjoy thisexperience and do the best you can to
focus on things that are under mycontrol, because if I only focus on
the result, then the result hasa thousand factors on which a result depends.
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It' s just that you,more than anyone else, know that
you get out of the game andyou can go through a lot, a
lot of things, right, alot. There are seven more runners you
want, as well as when yousay what is in our control and what
is out of control, what canbe those things that are in control as
a runner and those that are notcan seem obvious to many, but many
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people do not have the consciousness yetto be able to determine. This looks
at factors that are within my control. There' s my technical part,
there' s my mind control.Definitely nobody else depends on that. My
peace of mind is getting my thingsready. Let' s start on that
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side, not having everything very smarthaving to check my bike, having my
diet, having my fluids. Seenon that side we have things that are
under ok now let' s goto those that are out of my control.
I don' t control my coach' s expectations. That' s
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not under my control and, aboveall, for the kids. I don
' t control my parents' genius. Okay that' s one of the
things because then I' m goingto run is with the fear that if
I don' t do it rightthey' ll give me right, that
you don' t control it.This controls your dad and because it'
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s the management that has to givehim ok ok You don' t control
the public, for example, thatcan also play in some people for or
against that then the scenic panic thatthey' re looking at me or I
' m there, that doesn't control him then. That' s
the thing. Let' s justsay what you say to some can be
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obvious and for others it' scompletely understandable. We need to clarify that,
because we understand that many times onehappens is like because of that dread
and that I have to prove topeople that I am good, or I
have to prove to myself all thatI have been training I am going to
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do in this race, and thatis putting too much weight on me.
It' s a weight that's unnecessary at the end, so more
or less of that. It's treated like that that' s inside
and outside of how there are sometips or suggestions that you want to recommend
to us independently if they' regoing to be in a district, state,
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Latin American, national, world championship, race is career, but yes,
why the attention is different, whenbesides, it shouldn' t be
like that. They don' ttell him no world championship race and already
one better said put the stick veryhigh. The attention is very high,
but they tell him it' snot district championship and I don' t.
Ah well, yes, I don' t know how one does to
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give respect to all races, becauseany race deserves respect, just like the
runners we have next door, theone standing in a match is because he
also pedals and also wants to win. What suggestions do you have to lower
your nerves? From the perspective thatyou' ve studied psychological mental, I
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don' t know if maybe eatinghelps good practices and good ways to help
lessen that attention that you suggest good, initially, to structure goals that are
realistic and achievable. There is astructure to be objective that is called a
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technique called smart. Then the objectiveshave to be specific, measurable, achievable,
realistic and have a date. So, a lot of times you get
a few goals just thinking about whatcareer I have you in two months.
So, for that race, mygoal is to sort out the finals It
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' s good to know what careerit is and what your current level is.
So, there you start to evaluateand you have to put yourself in
a position where smart is real thatI' m two months from now.
If I' ve been training forfive years and I' m at this
point, whether I' m intwo months, I can get to this
point. I mean, that's a matter of a long time,
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very objective, realistic and within myreach. Then I set myself some very
clear goals and in this way Ican be very landed when it comes to
a competition. Experience is now veryimportant as well. So, so you
say. All races are important.Already there is a measure that is moving
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forward in sport and becoming more expertin sport, since one says already reaches
an international race, then it isalready a level of importance, perhaps a
little higher. But the child whois in schools and so far is starting
to compete, because a district toa festival is that high level of importance.
Cla is throughout the experience and oneis increasingly feeling much more confident,
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much more calm. And a veryimportant part also that is actually like the
biggest subject of consultation that dads cometo me and is that my son doesn
' t trust him. It's like he trains very well, but
when he gets to the races,he doesn' t run, he does,
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he doesn' t give up,he doesn' t do what he
trains. Then let' s gofrom the experience with what I was saying
to you. No one, nothinghas been learned. Then one goes more
and more and practises and faces morecompetitions, as I have more and more
tools to be able to perform better. But above all it is that I
can stand in that quiet partyer,with enough maturity also mental and trust in
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the process that I carry. It' s just that if I' ve
been training a plan to the letter, gym, food, rest, track,
repetitions and I' m aware ofthat, because who' s going
to take away that trust in thepartyer now is different when I start,
it' s not that this weekI took their body to the gym,
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like twice and last week I wentpartying. Or there' s a lot
going on and obviously trust there isstarting to get unbalanced. Ok Wow for
the World Championship since two thousand twenty- four here in the United States,
exactly rock Hill, in North Caroline. It is a clue that many Colombians
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already know and know. They comefrom Colombia. That' s three hundred
runners. It' s a hugenumber, which I' m very happy
about between the Challenger category and thechampionship category. It' s a great
opportunity to shine. Colombia is powerin BMX and not only in sports.
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Now I also say that it ispower in professionals like you Natalia Salamanca,
who are around the BMX and whoneed it also to not go further.
The coach of the U S teamis a Colombian. Professor Germán Medina Fabio
Peña, the coach of the Colombianteam, was also a runner. So
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I feel that more and more thereis a professionalization of bm X, of
which we must be more aware everyday and make the sport continue to grow.
And I' ve noticed it,because how many years I' ve
been linked and scored and I likeit and I' m proud of what
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you mean regardless of age, becauselooking at the categories of Colombians that we
' re going to be in theWorld Cup, you feel very happy to
see from the category from the smallestin experts to the category of the greatest
and most experienced. I don't mean the biggest when and experienced when
they necessarily are the elites, becauseafter the elite and professional part, the
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career can continue. But there arepeople and there are runners who, when
they don' t feel that attheir moment in elite, they end their
professional life. But that' sanother topic and it' s a perhaps
deeper conversation. But I want toask you, or I want you to
tell me, tell me, becauseI' m learning it too and I
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need it. What suggestions do youhave for these runners that we go for
the World Cup, without important ageand category. Well, one of the
parts you commented on I' mpassionate about a lot, which is life
after the performance sport. It's a subject that can give us a
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lot of things to talk about.And I feel like it' s all
of a sudden, the least talkedabout. But suddenly we can leave it
there in the inkwell, but alittle next. But, but, tell
me about any of that? Tellme about it? Tell me about it?
That I just asked you if itcatches your attention because I want to
know other points of view. Ofcourse you' re ready to get to
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a level with dreams and goals,with a pretty long job and then there,
at that level it' s whereit starts. Okay ready, I
' m getting what I proposed atthat point, then I continue and so
on, but it already reaches alevel or, already it reaches an age
where, definitely, because I canno longer continue in this elite category,
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not that of high performance sports life, it is actually very short. One
from a certain age no longer rendersin the same way, no longer performs
the same and that is not asecret. But it does not mean that
then your sports life is over thefact of being able to continue enjoying this
sport as a passion as something thatmoves me, as something also social.
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It' s just that we,who' ve been doing this for so
many years, actually, these areour friends. Yeah, I mean,
he doesn' t feel like friendshere. Family. There are people you
know from ten twenty years ago.If that' s your case, it
was a lot of people who getpart of 20 years. Thank you for
saying twenty years. No. Ithink a little bit more I' m
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going to tell you I have we' re like a group of five,
six or seven, we' revery close friends, but I think the
most legendary of friends I shared withand still very active. In addition,
he was injured at the national level, is recovering and is coming for the
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World Cup. Suddenly you know himis called Santiago Ospina. So that'
s me, I' m forty- two. Thank you for saying it
from 20 friends, 20 years ago. I think that almost thirty or a
little more imagine yourself, but well, then, going back to what you
were saying, is that it seemssupremely interesting to me, because I have
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noticed and not only in Colombia.I remember a conversation I had with Maris
Strommers, a double Olympic medalist whoat the age of thirty, was still
very young, and said that afterthe second Olympic Medal that year was very
strong, because after running World Championshipand well, he had season in the
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United States and came one day tothe track and felt that he no longer
wanted, I already won everything,what else, and I asked him he
said no, I don' twant anything. More. I don'
t want to know anything else oranything about this. Well, now he
' s a golfer and he's probably a level golfer, because he
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' s an awesome athlete. ButI kept thinking why at the age of
thirty you are a very young person, still very young, Even at the
age of thirty, I am forty- two, I went through thirty and
at thirty I thought that I wasnot so young and still a person too
young. At twenty, for youare not speaking and at twenty- five
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you are even better said. Butwhy it fails there, what happens.
We need someone to help us,to guide us, to tell us,
to show us. But then Idon' t run elite anymore, so
my life is over here and Ifeel like it' s a very strong
shock for these athletes what they're going to do next and you too
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what you think about me. Iknow it' s very difficult, while
you' re in a performance athlete, to be able to study, but
I' ve noticed that when theperformance race stops and they don' t
have an academic part in whatever itis, no, what happens there you
think can be improved or sent amessage to help these kind of runners that
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I see them, not just inColombia, everywhere, everywhere in the world.
There' s a lot of issues. Well, this can go in
two parts and well, yeah,yeah, my memory gives me. But,
well, the first part is structuredto because when we get to that
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level it' s over and Idon' t want to know any more
about this. And one ends almostthat I have fought with the sointe that
in the end it was a bitin my case too, that I didn
' t want to know anything moreabout bikecross I mean, I retired in
the two thousand nineteen and because Icame back from an academic exchange and took
my bike and in that year Iwas preparing, because I had been preparing
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for four years for national games.And I came in the two thousand nineteen
and said no more and I didn' t go back to the track,
I mean, I didn' tshow up there again, I didn'
t want any more then at thispoint that I already have much more knowledge,
I already have more experience where Ican already say in a more accurate
way a little of what was goingon in my head at that time.
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I feel like it' s happeninghere. It was my case and it
is a rather delicate subject, because, of course, the high performance is
quite demanding. And that' swhere, then, because you' re
worth the medal or you' reworth the result you' re playing in
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that competition and you forgot a littlebit about that human part and that lot
of things you have behind you don' t value that effort, that tour,
that delivery, those workouts and allthat emotional burden that also an athlete
attracts behind you, but you're required that in a competition that lasts
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thirty seconds, thirty- five secondsof its maximum, yes, effort and
leaving behind as if you just closeda door and the rest disappeared. So,
it demands that result And it's ok medal or chavo to poyos,
medal or chao recognition, because ina moment you' re here,
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but in a competition it may nothave been your best competition. And for
no one it' s a secretbye- bye, I mean, they
lock your doors from one moment tothe next. So it' s too
much demand at that level, givingus a little more to the expectations part
and others reaching that high level,high performance, high competition. And so
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in those ages, between the twentyand thirty, which is like anger in
this sport, where they are inthis category, I heard. But then
it' s a game of egoson one side, where then it'
s that I' m already inthis category, then I don' t
compete in another, then I'm already out. And so if I
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retire, I' m not goingto put myself to compete in one in
a twenty- nine, another twentyand bet pro, for example, Bet
Pro, which is still a veryhigh level. The category Bet Pro in
Colombia escapes the name of this country, which makes it very good that Nacho.
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Nacho has made category Bet Pro,the mosquito of Venezuela, the category
Bet Pro, the same Barry Noblescategory Bet Pro. And I feel that
in this case, for example,of the three have understood well. Emilio
Falla of Ecuador, who has alsobeen here, in California. They believe
they have understood the message that afterthat process and that culmination, there is
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much more. Not so, notin Colombia too, but Fabian Hernández,
José Luis Díaz, who are dedicatedto teaching and to this professionalizing Fabio Peña,
have stopped competing. But what Ifeel is that if after that elite
category there' s still a flameto compete. I think it should be
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stronger. And okay I' llsee, pro I' m going to
experts without any problem. I havethe level and the experience, but they
kind of don' t let himextrapolate, yes, and they do,
but they' re still high-performance athletes. I mean, you see
them throwing gymnastics before I don't walk around or so. So,
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if there' s a life afterthat aside elite, what happens is that
already athletes like they consider that fromthat point, from a certain point,
you stop going, from being fun, to making a profession where I enjoy
what I do, of course.But then, you kind of miss that
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component of which is that I likethis sheath and that' s why I
do it beyond the results and beyondwhat happens in the competition. It'
s because I enjoy being on mybike and it' s inside that'
s on the bike inside a track. I feel, I feel I can
be I definitely miss a part alot or you miss that part what you
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say, I' m sorry.I' m sorry all the time.
I' m sorry all the time. Every time I' m on the
bike training in a race, Ienjoy it more and more. I don
' t have any. I understandalso the level of commitment of a performance
athlete. What you just said themedal, the representation of the city of
the country. It' s aprofession. They don' t support me,
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they take away my support, theygive it to me, the sponsors
come. It' s a lotof things, but I want to ask
you what you suggest or what yousuggest that athletes, in this case or
high performance from bigger protests or smallerones. Also in which other areas,
as you are doing and you discoveredit, you can professionalize and be close
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to the BMX, not necessarily beingin the match to win a World Cup
or Olympics or any of these.How do you suggest, from your perspective
and what you have analyzed within themarket, in what more can be professionalized
to continue contributing and continue connected toa passion. BMX is a passion,
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but I see it now as aprofession. But it is a profession that
has many other things, not justsports performance. What do you consider,
what do you think good what yousay the sport as such smart. You
live it as a wonderful sportsman,but there is also a life behind it
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and you have to go on.Many times the athlete runs out of his
life and what you said a littleearlier neither studied nor liked anything else,
nor did he devote himself to anythingelse. Then it gets to a point
where I was left as a handle, like starting from scratch. But let
' s say, especially in mygeneration, those of us who came from
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those processes and so on that nowseveral of us are not specifically dedicated to
high- performance sports as athletes,but several are already coaches by certified coaches.
That right now comes an era whereready before was well known that the
one who was a good athlete thenis coach. Okay. That' s
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a bit in doubt, because there' s a lot of components behind a
club. It' s a plus, yes, it' s a club,
but in this new era. Yes, and you remind me of a
guy who was doing very well andnow he' s the Guatemala recruiter.
I don' t kill the kinChane, he' s still your generation,
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he' s a lot smaller thanme, and then wow, what
he' s doing is also importantto me. Go on, excuse me
Yes, that' s right.So, even though being a sportsman gives
you an impressive foundation, because tofinance, that is, you live what
the sportsman is living as such,because there is basic knowledge and there is
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a theoretical part that does not giveyou sportsmanship. Then from my generation come
several where they are already coaches,but they are certified coaches and they have
been changing a little bit the chipof the way in which they are trained
already seeing the most sportsman from theirglobal context, from their family context,
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their personal context, since it isalso important, for example, to have
a good performance in school. Noteveryone is doing well, because we are
not all good at everything, butdefinitely, it is part of itself,
it is part of that discipline,it is part of that complement. And
then you don' t have tobe number one in your school, but
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sport is equivalent. With this partas an academic, let' s say
looking from that part more towards discipline. Now ready, in the psychological part,
where there is not so much knowledgethat in sport you needed a psychologist,
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a person who prepares you at themental level. Super guests to everyone,
because this is an awesome sheath.I mean, I' m really
passionate about this, and I thinkit shows. But the athlete is understood
from all his contexts, at themental level, from everything that comes,
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that what carries, all that past, all that family history, also affects
and is also seen to result ina competition. It' s not just
what you see at that point.How do you ask this question? They
sent it to me. It's not a question posed by mex How
is it done to release those burdensthat you say, a family burden,
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that affects the sport. How canI do beyond recognizing it or understanding it
or understanding what happened, how Ido to improve or to free it.
Psychonomic Doctor, you definitely have todo a process, and a process with
a clinical psychologist ok the psychologist ofor will help you in many ways,
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but there is a lot of historybehind that they give themselves to work with
a clinical psychologist, where you musthave those tools to be able to manage
all those things, keep in mindwhat are the things that are within my
control and what are not within mycontrol. So, yes, it'
s family history where I suddenly chargethat my dad scolded me, after that
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in every competition or that suddenly Ididn' t have a good relationship with
my dad or my mom or theperson who was my caregiver at the time.
Then he' s smart. Thatwas something that affected me at the
time and maybe it' s aconsequence of what I' m doing today.
But I take care of what Ican modify. So I' m
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not going to drag that bunch ofbehaviors and that bunch of history I have
to act the same way, butI knew something clinical. I do a
process where I restructure this whole storyand start changing patterns of behavior. Or
what happened with my dad or whathappened with my caregiver, because I can
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no longer do anything at all,but through a clinical psychologist who gives me
tools and from this moment on,start acting in a different way. That
' s very important. Why doI do it like this, because there
is also a lot like this thatI told you at the beginning, because
Ahorita is in Furor this part ofthe mental training and so on, Ahorita,
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there are many coach who are notbased on that psychological part, but
dedicated specifically to this part of motivation, discipline and constancy and so on.
But then, it' s definitelyscience and evidence says so. One needs
to have bases on how human beingswork, human behavior, reinforcement and punishment.
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So, I repeat what gives mebackup and for nothing I' m
going to do something that' sa punishment for me. So let'
s say it' s coming backand that' s why it' s
very important that you have that component, not everyone. I don' t
mean the coaches are bad at all. Nothing to do with that, but
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yes, one has to be muchmore delicate when it comes to talking about
these issues, because it' snot just about you being told, imagine
that you can win it and thatyou' re going to do it and
it' s ready and magically goingto happen, because without a doubt that
doesn' t work so much becausethose who didn' t. I mean,
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it would be very simple a lotof things behind it and the evidence
says so then. That' swhy it' s so important to base
it. If you' re goingto deal with human beings, this mental
part has to be a definitely natalpsychologist like I do to handle a career
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situation, how I should do,what you suggest I have an ending is
an end, regardless of the finalit' s final in whatever it is
in the end, it' sfinal what you said. For a little
boy the end of his district canscare him or represent the same thing as
for someone with a lot of experiencewho is before a final of a world
championship. What you suggest not necessarilyfinal, cannot be semifinal, that the
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semifinal has a attention that is sometimesdifferent than the finale itself. Sorting sleeves,
some tips to drive or to improvethose situations before an end, and
also how you handle a situation whenyou have a situation within the race track
that you feel you were either veryaggressive or very aggressive. With you,
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okay I' ll notice because yes, yes, yes, yes, sor
arrange I know the demo. Howdo I do before an end, how
do I prepare for the moment.We start with what' s one more
lap. You' re not goingto do magic. You' re not
going to do things you haven't done before. You' re not
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going to start making up what you' ve already trained, you' ve
already trained him, and you're going to come up with a rather
well done ride. Then that's where I start it' s a
well- done turn. So it' s not just getting ahead on the
finish line. A well- doneturn is to get out on time at
the matcher. A well- doneturn is speeding up the party' s
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descent. A well- made turnis to be precise in my technique,
a well- made turn of neglectingmy career line. Right, a lot
of components that come after a goodHueta. Then it' s not that
simple. Yeah, I' mgonna run the finals. Then I put
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a little pressure on myself, becauseit' s either the semifinal. Then
I have to stay in the topfour. Or else it' s nothing
anymore. This was worth it.Okay. That' s not under my
control, because there are seven morerunners who also want to be there and
there are a lot of career situations, which is the second question that you
can present a moment of a peraltewhere, obviously, a semi, an
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end, everyone goes in to kill, because I have to get out of
there, right, but then that' s what' s under my control.
Then I' ll concentrate on thepartyer. Super- important breathing.
There' s a guy I votefor, a body scan. That'
s going to be I' lltell you how it works, but that
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' s going to focus on meat the moment and stop thinking about what
I' m going to do.Inside the clue that' s going to
worry about the furthest away, thefarthest from the future. I' m
gonna get ready and I' mgonna concentrate on him. Put up the
party board. I stand on mybike, I use my basic feet as
if you use choclos in choclar well, have the position of my feet well,
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because because of the pressure and fora lot of things, to be
anxious, I forget that the footgoes like this. And that' s
not how it goes. So,when I' m gonna send the other
pedal, they call me a trueshock. Then I have to do a
body scan. Let' s startwith the rim on the board well positioned,
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I get on the bike and startwith feet, legs, back shoulders,
arms and head. How is theposition of my body in that case.
It' s not the same goingout here as coming out here,
really, the movement changes completely,but by fallacy, by expectations, by
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when I think only about the result, my very muscles unconsciously begin to pay
attention. Then I start and it' s the pain you usually have here.
So it' s like the pain, the popular myco, the myco,
squeezes your whole body voluntarily before youget on the board, squeezes your
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whole body with all the strength,three seconds and relaxes, and so the
muscles that were strained are going torelax and they' re going to feel
more prepared and but quieter. Atthat moment you get on the board,
you do body roughing, a deepbreath and we' re out of time,
because those are thousands and more thantwo seconds that last the voices.
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So, at that point, it' s already starting to loke Righthrs.
When there' s the second space. I already have to be ready with
prepa scan, that is, it' s caneolisto. Already there, at
that point it is comfortable. Myposition and gaze fix at traffic lights steves
tighten and relax the body at thatpoint are pickled at the attack. Well,
what? Well, what? What? Good tips Natalia and good we
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' re going to close. Iwant to thank you for your time,
thank you for all that knowledge,that much- needed information, so vital
that I feel like it falls verywell a few days before the World Championship.
However, because it is a contentthat will always work, it will
always serve for us to prepare,for us to be better mentally and obviously
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physically also helps, but above allthe mental part that today is so important
in all corridors, in all ages. I don' t know if you
want to add anything for the closure. Please, of course I do.
Enjoy those who are going to thisWorld Cup. Enjoy this opportunity Go Go
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Go Go Go Go. It's the first time of many and it
' s quite possibly going to bethe only time they get the chance.
I hope not, but for severalit is going to be this approach,
that they have to a competition ofthis level where they will see the referents
of the world in what they aremost passionate about. Then go as with
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that willingness to enjoy it, tohave a good time focusing on that beyond
what may happen. Of course,we' re going with a very strong
training and so on. But whenyou enjoy yourself, things start to flow
in a different way. That,on the one hand, and because also
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the fact that it is affordable thatwe have it a little close to the
World Cup, near Colombia, becausethey are usually in Europe. One has
to stick to a rather more expensivejourney. What this World Cup can do.
Enjoy the opportunity if you are goingto go, compete and depart from
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that beginning if I enjoy it.I' m gonna feel a lot better
doing what I do. One lapat a time you' re gonna compete.
One sleeve is one lap at atime don' t worry about the
finals yet. One lap at atime. Oh thank you, Natalia for
sharing this that is a good messagefor all those who like this sport,
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that what we don' t want, love it, we carry it printed
on our adn our blood. We' ll keep going. I' m
sure and good. I thought itwas so important to have you thank for
your time, for your knowledge,for the good vibe and we' ll
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see you on the track or somewhere. The podcast episode will be available to
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podcast platforms share it and learn alittle more about that so beautiful that it
is the BMX or the visi MotorSicle extrem as the Americans call it.
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Thank you, Natalia, for yourtime. Thank you so much for the
invitation and I' ll see youon viax b bye to see you more.
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in the two hundred thirty- fivenorth of the city of Bogotá. There
' s a lot of anxiety thesedays. I' m telling you who
our guest is, because the WorldChampionship is coming. He spent the Pan
American Championship in Bogotá and the LatinAmerican Championship at that stop, in that
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international race that took place on theCarlos Ramírez track, were about a thousand
registered runners. Obviously, the volumeof Colombia, quite strong and from many
countries that accompanied us in a career, was very important. I think it
can be a career for Latin Americaafter the World Cup. I think it
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' s the most important race.The organization was very good, what I
saw could not be there, butI saw many happy faces, good organization,
a good show. So congratulations tothe entire Pan- American and Latin
American organization that took place in Bogotá, Colombia and today a guest who will
share very special things with us.She has been and will remain a bm
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X runner. That psychologist also hasa master' s degree in all these
topics that help us and that helpthe runners to have better presentations to strengthen.
We not only strengthen the physical part, but the mental part. It
' s fundamental. So Natalia Salamanca, who is also very young and is
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already quite intellectually prepared to help us, and I want to invite her and
greet her. Hey, Natalia,how you doing. How are you doing?
Hello, Alejandro, how are you? I am very well, very
excited to be here, super superhappy to be able to share, from
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my experience and also from the Academy, everything that I have been learning throughout
these years and, above all,to be able to share with you that,
in the end is what I seeknot to give that knowledge that the
mind of mental training ceases to bealso something so far from reality. It
is part of a training as wellas the technical part, of the physical
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part. Super super important and sotake advantage right now that is also very
booming. Now many of the thingsthat sound are trending. So everyone wants
to go that way, you haveto take advantage of it and definitely,
the science- based, sport-based mental training is very booming and you
have to definitely do it. Makesa difference what a thrill it is to
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be here. Thank you so muchfor the Natalia invitation. Tell us well
some of your experience as a sportsmanand now you are still a sportsman,
but as a professional in that trainingof mental preparation. Tell us a little
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bit about your profile and we comein with several questions that I have for
you clearly yes, well as asportsman, I started very small. I
started when I was nine. Igot to the Mario Soto track, with
my mom, with my brother,we saw the bic Cross track. There
were no girls and I want thatsuper animated, I want that sport and
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there it started as my sports career. At first it was very, to
go around on the track, toenjoy the weekends, but things went away
and then I started to like withmore discipline going more days during the week,
competing nationally, competing I also startedto compete outside. I did a
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lot of things while I was inthe sport. I always needed, like
that psychological component, that part whereyou start to regulate those emotions, because
you definitely get to a competition outsideand then you start. I don'
t have too much expectation on me. I have to win, which in
the end is the goal that mostpeople have when they go out or when
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they compete in general, I haveto win and it is to put too
much pressure on them. Then Ihad the good opportion ready. I'
m done with school. But duringschool I was very, very focused.
I was already in a more professionaltraining, doing double gymnasium, track and
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so on. In this case,I already knew that I liked psychology and
was in the sport part. ThenI did not know how to unite them,
because at that time I had noknowledge that there was a psychology based
on sport. But I, sinceI mean, I really like this.
I entered the University in the twothousand sixteen to study psychology at the University
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of the Forest, and there,I continued to study and in my sports
discipline was already what I tell you, training full full, because I was
already competing internationally. Then I hada good level at the time. What
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else does he tell you? Well, you' ve said a lot of
things and I' m gonna startasking you why it happened to me.
It happened many times, it happensless and less, but that first international
race, why it costs so muchwork and produces that theme is that it
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is quite the topic that can bedrawn from it, especially because, well,
you have prepared a lot for thattype of competition, but everything is
based on the experience, as whenyou are going to ride bike for the
first time you will not make itperfect, then you should go to any
competition with very clear objectives and verywell structured objectives. If it is your
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first international competition, why do youput so much burden on yourself and rather
the goal can be to enjoy thisexperience and do the best you can to
focus on things that are under mycontrol, because if I only focus on
the result, then the result hasa thousand factors on which a result depends.
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It' s just that you,more than anyone else, know that
you get out of the game andyou can go through a lot, a
lot of things, right, alot. There are seven more runners you
want, as well as when yousay what is in our control and what
is out of control, what canbe those things that are in control as
a runner and those that are notcan seem obvious to many, but many
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people do not have the consciousness yetto be able to determine. This looks
at factors that are within my control. There' s my technical part,
there' s my mind control.Definitely nobody else depends on that. My
peace of mind is getting my thingsready. Let' s start on that
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side, not having everything very smarthaving to check my bike, having my
diet, having my fluids. Seenon that side we have things that are
under ok now let' s goto those that are out of my control.
I don' t control my coach' s expectations. That' s
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not under my control and, aboveall, for the kids. I don
' t control my parents' genius. Okay that' s one of the
things because then I' m goingto run is with the fear that if
I don' t do it rightthey' ll give me right, that
you don' t control it.This controls your dad and because it'
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s the management that has to givehim ok ok You don' t control
the public, for example, thatcan also play in some people for or
against that then the scenic panic thatthey' re looking at me or I
' m there, that doesn't control him then. That' s
the thing. Let' s justsay what you say to some can be
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obvious and for others it' scompletely understandable. We need to clarify that,
because we understand that many times onehappens is like because of that dread
and that I have to prove topeople that I am good, or I
have to prove to myself all thatI have been training I am going to
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do in this race, and thatis putting too much weight on me.
It' s a weight that's unnecessary at the end, so more
or less of that. It's treated like that that' s inside
and outside of how there are sometips or suggestions that you want to recommend
to us independently if they' regoing to be in a district, state,
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Latin American, national, world championship, race is career, but yes,
why the attention is different, whenbesides, it shouldn' t be
like that. They don' ttell him no world championship race and already
one better said put the stick veryhigh. The attention is very high,
but they tell him it' snot district championship and I don' t.
Ah well, yes, I don' t know how one does to
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give respect to all races, becauseany race deserves respect, just like the
runners we have next door, theone standing in a match is because he
also pedals and also wants to win. What suggestions do you have to lower
your nerves? From the perspective thatyou' ve studied psychological mental, I
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don' t know if maybe eatinghelps good practices and good ways to help
lessen that attention that you suggest good, initially, to structure goals that are
realistic and achievable. There is astructure to be objective that is called a
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technique called smart. Then the objectiveshave to be specific, measurable, achievable,
realistic and have a date. So, a lot of times you get
a few goals just thinking about whatcareer I have you in two months.
So, for that race, mygoal is to sort out the finals It
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' s good to know what careerit is and what your current level is.
So, there you start to evaluateand you have to put yourself in
a position where smart is real thatI' m two months from now.
If I' ve been training forfive years and I' m at this
point, whether I' m intwo months, I can get to this
point. I mean, that's a matter of a long time,
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very objective, realistic and within myreach. Then I set myself some very
clear goals and in this way Ican be very landed when it comes to
a competition. Experience is now veryimportant as well. So, so you
say. All races are important.Already there is a measure that is moving
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forward in sport and becoming more expertin sport, since one says already reaches
an international race, then it isalready a level of importance, perhaps a
little higher. But the child whois in schools and so far is starting
to compete, because a district toa festival is that high level of importance.
Cla is throughout the experience and oneis increasingly feeling much more confident,
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much more calm. And a veryimportant part also that is actually like the
biggest subject of consultation that dads cometo me and is that my son doesn
' t trust him. It's like he trains very well, but
when he gets to the races,he doesn' t run, he does,
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he doesn' t give up,he doesn' t do what he
trains. Then let' s gofrom the experience with what I was saying
to you. No one, nothinghas been learned. Then one goes more
and more and practises and faces morecompetitions, as I have more and more
tools to be able to perform better. But above all it is that I
can stand in that quiet partyer,with enough maturity also mental and trust in
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the process that I carry. It' s just that if I' ve
been training a plan to the letter, gym, food, rest, track,
repetitions and I' m aware ofthat, because who' s going
to take away that trust in thepartyer now is different when I start,
it' s not that this weekI took their body to the gym,
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like twice and last week I wentpartying. Or there' s a lot
going on and obviously trust there isstarting to get unbalanced. Ok Wow for
the World Championship since two thousand twenty- four here in the United States,
exactly rock Hill, in North Caroline. It is a clue that many Colombians
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already know and know. They comefrom Colombia. That' s three hundred
runners. It' s a hugenumber, which I' m very happy
about between the Challenger category and thechampionship category. It' s a great
opportunity to shine. Colombia is powerin BMX and not only in sports.
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Now I also say that it ispower in professionals like you Natalia Salamanca,
who are around the BMX and whoneed it also to not go further.
The coach of the U S teamis a Colombian. Professor Germán Medina Fabio
Peña, the coach of the Colombianteam, was also a runner. So
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I feel that more and more thereis a professionalization of bm X, of
which we must be more aware everyday and make the sport continue to grow.
And I' ve noticed it,because how many years I' ve
been linked and scored and I likeit and I' m proud of what
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you mean regardless of age, becauselooking at the categories of Colombians that we
' re going to be in theWorld Cup, you feel very happy to
see from the category from the smallestin experts to the category of the greatest
and most experienced. I don't mean the biggest when and experienced when
they necessarily are the elites, becauseafter the elite and professional part, the
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career can continue. But there arepeople and there are runners who, when
they don' t feel that attheir moment in elite, they end their
professional life. But that' sanother topic and it' s a perhaps
deeper conversation. But I want toask you, or I want you to
tell me, tell me, becauseI' m learning it too and I
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need it. What suggestions do youhave for these runners that we go for
the World Cup, without important ageand category. Well, one of the
parts you commented on I' mpassionate about a lot, which is life
after the performance sport. It's a subject that can give us a
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lot of things to talk about.And I feel like it' s all
of a sudden, the least talkedabout. But suddenly we can leave it
there in the inkwell, but alittle next. But, but, tell
me about any of that? Tellme about it? Tell me about it?
That I just asked you if itcatches your attention because I want to
know other points of view. Ofcourse you' re ready to get to
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a level with dreams and goals,with a pretty long job and then there,
at that level it' s whereit starts. Okay ready, I
' m getting what I proposed atthat point, then I continue and so
on, but it already reaches alevel or, already it reaches an age
where, definitely, because I canno longer continue in this elite category,
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not that of high performance sports life, it is actually very short. One
from a certain age no longer rendersin the same way, no longer performs
the same and that is not asecret. But it does not mean that
then your sports life is over thefact of being able to continue enjoying this
sport as a passion as something thatmoves me, as something also social.
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It' s just that we,who' ve been doing this for so
many years, actually, these areour friends. Yeah, I mean,
he doesn' t feel like friendshere. Family. There are people you
know from ten twenty years ago.If that' s your case, it
was a lot of people who getpart of 20 years. Thank you for
saying twenty years. No. Ithink a little bit more I' m
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going to tell you I have we' re like a group of five,
six or seven, we' revery close friends, but I think the
most legendary of friends I shared withand still very active. In addition,
he was injured at the national level, is recovering and is coming for the
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World Cup. Suddenly you know himis called Santiago Ospina. So that'
s me, I' m forty- two. Thank you for saying it
from 20 friends, 20 years ago. I think that almost thirty or a
little more imagine yourself, but well, then, going back to what you
were saying, is that it seemssupremely interesting to me, because I have
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noticed and not only in Colombia.I remember a conversation I had with Maris
Strommers, a double Olympic medalist whoat the age of thirty, was still
very young, and said that afterthe second Olympic Medal that year was very
strong, because after running World Championshipand well, he had season in the
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United States and came one day tothe track and felt that he no longer
wanted, I already won everything,what else, and I asked him he
said no, I don' twant anything. More. I don'
t want to know anything else oranything about this. Well, now he
' s a golfer and he's probably a level golfer, because he
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' s an awesome athlete. ButI kept thinking why at the age of
thirty you are a very young person, still very young, Even at the
age of thirty, I am forty- two, I went through thirty and
at thirty I thought that I wasnot so young and still a person too
young. At twenty, for youare not speaking and at twenty- five
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you are even better said. Butwhy it fails there, what happens.
We need someone to help us,to guide us, to tell us,
to show us. But then Idon' t run elite anymore, so
my life is over here and Ifeel like it' s a very strong
shock for these athletes what they're going to do next and you too
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what you think about me. Iknow it' s very difficult, while
you' re in a performance athlete, to be able to study, but
I' ve noticed that when theperformance race stops and they don' t
have an academic part in whatever itis, no, what happens there you
think can be improved or sent amessage to help these kind of runners that
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I see them, not just inColombia, everywhere, everywhere in the world.
There' s a lot of issues. Well, this can go in
two parts and well, yeah,yeah, my memory gives me. But,
well, the first part is structuredto because when we get to that
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level it' s over and Idon' t want to know any more
about this. And one ends almostthat I have fought with the sointe that
in the end it was a bitin my case too, that I didn
' t want to know anything moreabout bikecross I mean, I retired in
the two thousand nineteen and because Icame back from an academic exchange and took
my bike and in that year Iwas preparing, because I had been preparing
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for four years for national games.And I came in the two thousand nineteen
and said no more and I didn' t go back to the track,
I mean, I didn' tshow up there again, I didn'
t want any more then at thispoint that I already have much more knowledge,
I already have more experience where Ican already say in a more accurate
way a little of what was goingon in my head at that time.
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I feel like it' s happeninghere. It was my case and it
is a rather delicate subject, because, of course, the high performance is
quite demanding. And that' swhere, then, because you' re
worth the medal or you' reworth the result you' re playing in
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that competition and you forgot a littlebit about that human part and that lot
of things you have behind you don' t value that effort, that tour,
that delivery, those workouts and allthat emotional burden that also an athlete
attracts behind you, but you're required that in a competition that lasts
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thirty seconds, thirty- five secondsof its maximum, yes, effort and
leaving behind as if you just closeda door and the rest disappeared. So,
it demands that result And it's ok medal or chavo to poyos,
medal or chao recognition, because ina moment you' re here,
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but in a competition it may nothave been your best competition. And for
no one it' s a secretbye- bye, I mean, they
lock your doors from one moment tothe next. So it' s too
much demand at that level, givingus a little more to the expectations part
and others reaching that high level,high performance, high competition. And so
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in those ages, between the twentyand thirty, which is like anger in
this sport, where they are inthis category, I heard. But then
it' s a game of egoson one side, where then it'
s that I' m already inthis category, then I don' t
compete in another, then I'm already out. And so if I
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retire, I' m not goingto put myself to compete in one in
a twenty- nine, another twentyand bet pro, for example, Bet
Pro, which is still a veryhigh level. The category Bet Pro in
Colombia escapes the name of this country, which makes it very good that Nacho.
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Nacho has made category Bet Pro,the mosquito of Venezuela, the category
Bet Pro, the same Barry Noblescategory Bet Pro. And I feel that
in this case, for example,of the three have understood well. Emilio
Falla of Ecuador, who has alsobeen here, in California. They believe
they have understood the message that afterthat process and that culmination, there is
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much more. Not so, notin Colombia too, but Fabian Hernández,
José Luis Díaz, who are dedicatedto teaching and to this professionalizing Fabio Peña,
have stopped competing. But what Ifeel is that if after that elite
category there' s still a flameto compete. I think it should be
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stronger. And okay I' llsee, pro I' m going to
experts without any problem. I havethe level and the experience, but they
kind of don' t let himextrapolate, yes, and they do,
but they' re still high-performance athletes. I mean, you see
them throwing gymnastics before I don't walk around or so. So,
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if there' s a life afterthat aside elite, what happens is that
already athletes like they consider that fromthat point, from a certain point,
you stop going, from being fun, to making a profession where I enjoy
what I do, of course.But then, you kind of miss that
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component of which is that I likethis sheath and that' s why I
do it beyond the results and beyondwhat happens in the competition. It'
s because I enjoy being on mybike and it' s inside that'
s on the bike inside a track. I feel, I feel I can
be I definitely miss a part alot or you miss that part what you
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say, I' m sorry.I' m sorry all the time.
I' m sorry all the time. Every time I' m on the
bike training in a race, Ienjoy it more and more. I don
' t have any. I understandalso the level of commitment of a performance
athlete. What you just said themedal, the representation of the city of
the country. It' s aprofession. They don' t support me,
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they take away my support, theygive it to me, the sponsors
come. It' s a lotof things, but I want to ask
you what you suggest or what yousuggest that athletes, in this case or
high performance from bigger protests or smallerones. Also in which other areas,
as you are doing and you discoveredit, you can professionalize and be close
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to the BMX, not necessarily beingin the match to win a World Cup
or Olympics or any of these.How do you suggest, from your perspective
and what you have analyzed within themarket, in what more can be professionalized
to continue contributing and continue connected toa passion. BMX is a passion,
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but I see it now as aprofession. But it is a profession that
has many other things, not justsports performance. What do you consider,
what do you think good what yousay the sport as such smart. You
live it as a wonderful sportsman,but there is also a life behind it
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and you have to go on.Many times the athlete runs out of his
life and what you said a littleearlier neither studied nor liked anything else,
nor did he devote himself to anythingelse. Then it gets to a point
where I was left as a handle, like starting from scratch. But let
' s say, especially in mygeneration, those of us who came from
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those processes and so on that nowseveral of us are not specifically dedicated to
high- performance sports as athletes,but several are already coaches by certified coaches.
That right now comes an era whereready before was well known that the
one who was a good athlete thenis coach. Okay. That' s
(28:56):
a bit in doubt, because there' s a lot of components behind a
club. It' s a plus, yes, it' s a club,
but in this new era. Yes, and you remind me of a
guy who was doing very well andnow he' s the Guatemala recruiter.
I don' t kill the kinChane, he' s still your generation,
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he' s a lot smaller thanme, and then wow, what
he' s doing is also importantto me. Go on, excuse me
Yes, that' s right.So, even though being a sportsman gives
you an impressive foundation, because tofinance, that is, you live what
the sportsman is living as such,because there is basic knowledge and there is
(29:40):
a theoretical part that does not giveyou sportsmanship. Then from my generation come
several where they are already coaches,but they are certified coaches and they have
been changing a little bit the chipof the way in which they are trained
already seeing the most sportsman from theirglobal context, from their family context,
(30:02):
their personal context, since it isalso important, for example, to have
a good performance in school. Noteveryone is doing well, because we are
not all good at everything, butdefinitely, it is part of itself,
it is part of that discipline,it is part of that complement. And
then you don' t have tobe number one in your school, but
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sport is equivalent. With this partas an academic, let' s say
looking from that part more towards discipline. Now ready, in the psychological part,
where there is not so much knowledgethat in sport you needed a psychologist,
(30:45):
a person who prepares you at themental level. Super guests to everyone,
because this is an awesome sheath.I mean, I' m really
passionate about this, and I thinkit shows. But the athlete is understood
from all his contexts, at themental level, from everything that comes,
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that what carries, all that past, all that family history, also affects
and is also seen to result ina competition. It' s not just
what you see at that point.How do you ask this question? They
sent it to me. It's not a question posed by mex How
is it done to release those burdensthat you say, a family burden,
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that affects the sport. How canI do beyond recognizing it or understanding it
or understanding what happened, how Ido to improve or to free it.
Psychonomic Doctor, you definitely have todo a process, and a process with
a clinical psychologist ok the psychologist ofor will help you in many ways,
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but there is a lot of historybehind that they give themselves to work with
a clinical psychologist, where you musthave those tools to be able to manage
all those things, keep in mindwhat are the things that are within my
control and what are not within mycontrol. So, yes, it'
s family history where I suddenly chargethat my dad scolded me, after that
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in every competition or that suddenly Ididn' t have a good relationship with
my dad or my mom or theperson who was my caregiver at the time.
Then he' s smart. Thatwas something that affected me at the
time and maybe it' s aconsequence of what I' m doing today.
But I take care of what Ican modify. So I' m
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not going to drag that bunch ofbehaviors and that bunch of history I have
to act the same way, butI knew something clinical. I do a
process where I restructure this whole storyand start changing patterns of behavior. Or
what happened with my dad or whathappened with my caregiver, because I can
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no longer do anything at all,but through a clinical psychologist who gives me
tools and from this moment on,start acting in a different way. That
' s very important. Why doI do it like this, because there
is also a lot like this thatI told you at the beginning, because
Ahorita is in Furor this part ofthe mental training and so on, Ahorita,
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there are many coach who are notbased on that psychological part, but
dedicated specifically to this part of motivation, discipline and constancy and so on.
But then, it' s definitelyscience and evidence says so. One needs
to have bases on how human beingswork, human behavior, reinforcement and punishment.
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So, I repeat what gives mebackup and for nothing I' m
going to do something that' sa punishment for me. So let'
s say it' s coming backand that' s why it' s
very important that you have that component, not everyone. I don' t
mean the coaches are bad at all. Nothing to do with that, but
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yes, one has to be muchmore delicate when it comes to talking about
these issues, because it' snot just about you being told, imagine
that you can win it and thatyou' re going to do it and
it' s ready and magically goingto happen, because without a doubt that
doesn' t work so much becausethose who didn' t. I mean,
(34:44):
it would be very simple a lotof things behind it and the evidence
says so then. That' swhy it' s so important to base
it. If you' re goingto deal with human beings, this mental
part has to be a definitely natalpsychologist like I do to handle a career
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situation, how I should do,what you suggest I have an ending is
an end, regardless of the finalit' s final in whatever it is
in the end, it' sfinal what you said. For a little
boy the end of his district canscare him or represent the same thing as
for someone with a lot of experiencewho is before a final of a world
championship. What you suggest not necessarilyfinal, cannot be semifinal, that the
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semifinal has a attention that is sometimesdifferent than the finale itself. Sorting sleeves,
some tips to drive or to improvethose situations before an end, and
also how you handle a situation whenyou have a situation within the race track
that you feel you were either veryaggressive or very aggressive. With you,
(35:57):
okay I' ll notice because yes, yes, yes, yes, sor
arrange I know the demo. Howdo I do before an end, how
do I prepare for the moment.We start with what' s one more
lap. You' re not goingto do magic. You' re not
going to do things you haven't done before. You' re not
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going to start making up what you' ve already trained, you' ve
already trained him, and you're going to come up with a rather
well done ride. Then that's where I start it' s a
well- done turn. So it' s not just getting ahead on the
finish line. A well- doneturn is to get out on time at
the matcher. A well- doneturn is speeding up the party' s
(36:45):
descent. A well- made turnis to be precise in my technique,
a well- made turn of neglectingmy career line. Right, a lot
of components that come after a goodHueta. Then it' s not that
simple. Yeah, I' mgonna run the finals. Then I put
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a little pressure on myself, becauseit' s either the semifinal. Then
I have to stay in the topfour. Or else it' s nothing
anymore. This was worth it.Okay. That' s not under my
control, because there are seven morerunners who also want to be there and
there are a lot of career situations, which is the second question that you
can present a moment of a peraltewhere, obviously, a semi, an
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end, everyone goes in to kill, because I have to get out of
there, right, but then that' s what' s under my control.
Then I' ll concentrate on thepartyer. Super- important breathing.
There' s a guy I votefor, a body scan. That'
s going to be I' lltell you how it works, but that
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' s going to focus on meat the moment and stop thinking about what
I' m going to do.Inside the clue that' s going to
worry about the furthest away, thefarthest from the future. I' m
gonna get ready and I' mgonna concentrate on him. Put up the
party board. I stand on mybike, I use my basic feet as
if you use choclos in choclar well, have the position of my feet well,
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because because of the pressure and fora lot of things, to be
anxious, I forget that the footgoes like this. And that' s
not how it goes. So,when I' m gonna send the other
pedal, they call me a trueshock. Then I have to do a
body scan. Let' s startwith the rim on the board well positioned,
(38:36):
I get on the bike and startwith feet, legs, back shoulders,
arms and head. How is theposition of my body in that case.
It' s not the same goingout here as coming out here,
really, the movement changes completely,but by fallacy, by expectations, by
(38:57):
when I think only about the result, my very muscles unconsciously begin to pay
attention. Then I start and it' s the pain you usually have here.
So it' s like the pain, the popular myco, the myco,
squeezes your whole body voluntarily before youget on the board, squeezes your
(39:17):
whole body with all the strength,three seconds and relaxes, and so the
muscles that were strained are going torelax and they' re going to feel
more prepared and but quieter. Atthat moment you get on the board,
you do body roughing, a deepbreath and we' re out of time,
because those are thousands and more thantwo seconds that last the voices.
(39:42):
So, at that point, it' s already starting to loke Righthrs.
When there' s the second space. I already have to be ready with
prepa scan, that is, it' s caneolisto. Already there, at
that point it is comfortable. Myposition and gaze fix at traffic lights steves
tighten and relax the body at thatpoint are pickled at the attack. Well,
what? Well, what? What? Good tips Natalia and good we
(40:06):
' re going to close. Iwant to thank you for your time,
thank you for all that knowledge,that much- needed information, so vital
that I feel like it falls verywell a few days before the World Championship.
However, because it is a contentthat will always work, it will
always serve for us to prepare,for us to be better mentally and obviously
(40:31):
physically also helps, but above allthe mental part that today is so important
in all corridors, in all ages. I don' t know if you
want to add anything for the closure. Please, of course I do.
Enjoy those who are going to thisWorld Cup. Enjoy this opportunity Go Go
(40:59):
Go Go Go Go. It's the first time of many and it
' s quite possibly going to bethe only time they get the chance.
I hope not, but for severalit is going to be this approach,
that they have to a competition ofthis level where they will see the referents
of the world in what they aremost passionate about. Then go as with
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that willingness to enjoy it, tohave a good time focusing on that beyond
what may happen. Of course,we' re going with a very strong
training and so on. But whenyou enjoy yourself, things start to flow
in a different way. That,on the one hand, and because also
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the fact that it is affordable thatwe have it a little close to the
World Cup, near Colombia, becausethey are usually in Europe. One has
to stick to a rather more expensivejourney. What this World Cup can do.
Enjoy the opportunity if you are goingto go, compete and depart from
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that beginning if I enjoy it.I' m gonna feel a lot better
doing what I do. One lapat a time you' re gonna compete.
One sleeve is one lap at atime don' t worry about the
finals yet. One lap at atime. Oh thank you, Natalia for
sharing this that is a good messagefor all those who like this sport,
(42:27):
that what we don' t want, love it, we carry it printed
on our adn our blood. We' ll keep going. I' m
sure and good. I thought itwas so important to have you thank for
your time, for your knowledge,for the good vibe and we' ll
(42:51):
see you on the track or somewhere. The podcast episode will be available to
all people who want to share iton all platforms, that Apple, all
podcast platforms share it and learn alittle more about that so beautiful that it
is the BMX or the visi MotorSicle extrem as the Americans call it.
(43:14):
Thank you, Natalia, for yourtime. Thank you so much for the
invitation and I' ll see youon viax b bye to see you more.
Thanks Big b Radis, bi bn h Kins s
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