May 16, 2025 • 7 mins
Elon Musk Latest Interview at Saudi-US investment forum.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, I'm sure we can do a better welcome than
that to Elon Musk in saud Arabia. There you go,
that's the spurret. Thank you, Aylon, my dear friend. We're
honored to have President Trump. We're honored, under the sponsorship
and guidance of His Royal Highness to celebrate a US
(00:23):
Saudi and a Saudi US relationship that is ninety two
years old about how we move from an oil based
economy to an innovation based economy powered by wonderful technologies.
That definitely you're one of the pioneers in this industry.
We just showed to His Royal Highness some of your
(00:43):
Optimist robots and to President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Let's talk about that. Tell me about them. Yes, So
we just.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Showed several of our Tesla Optimist robots to His Highness
and President Trump, and I think they were very impressed.
In fact, one of our robots did the Trump Dance,
which I think was pretty cool. Y yeah to YMCA,
So yeah, robots can dance, they can walk around, they
(01:11):
can interact. I think we're headed to a radically different world.
I think I think a good world, an interesting world.
My prediction actually for humanoid robots is that ultimately there
will be tens of billions. I think everyone will want
(01:34):
to have their personal robot. You can think of it
like as though you had your own personal C three
PO or R two D two or even better, then
who wouldn't want to have their own personal C three
PO R two D two. That would be pretty great.
And I also think it unlocks an immense amount of
(01:57):
economic potential because when you think of like what is
the output of an economy, it is productivity per capita
at times population or capita. The Once you have humanoid robots,
the actual economic output potential is tremendous. It's really unlimited. Potentially,
(02:19):
we could have an economy ten times the size of
the current global economy where no one wants for anything.
You know. Sometimes in AI they talk about universal basic income.
I think it's actually going to be universal high income,
where anyone can have any goods or services that they want,
(02:45):
you know. A science fiction book recommendation that I have,
which I think is probably the best envisioning of an
AI future is the Culture Books by Ian Banks, very
highly recommended for a non dystopian view of the future.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Now, there obviously are some risks.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know which illustrate perhaps the if we don't do
this right, you know, you could have like a James
Cameron sort of movie, you know, Terminator, if we don't
want that one, but having sort of a star Trek
future would be great. We we're out there exploring the stars,
(03:29):
discovering the nature of the universe and a level of
prosperity and hopefully happiness that we can't quite imagine yet.
So I'm very excited about the future, and I'm very
glad to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's an absolute pleasure. And His Royal Highness was talking
to you about his vision and his dream to increase
productivity for the Kingdom of Saud Arabia and power up
the region and the whole world with robotics, but also
on robotaxis.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So how are we doing on robotaxis?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah? So really you can think of a car or
future cars as being robots on four wheels, and you know,
I think it'd be very exciting to have autonomous vehicles
here in the Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Indeed, if you're amenable.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You heard it, hear from El he's bringing his Robotaxi
to the Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He has another announcement that he.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, exactly so, and I'd also like to thank the
Kingdom for approving Starlink for maritime and aviation.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Use thank Maritime and Aviation. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So, yeah, so you're going to bring.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Us robots to help us increase our productivity, robotaxis to
make sure that our cars and assets turn into a
cash generating unit and start Link start Link to reform
our aviation and maritime.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, talk about x AI.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Absolutely, but I should want you to mention also something
that may be worth considering is tunnels.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The Boring Company.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I have this company called the Boring Company, which sounds
kind of boring, but it's it's it literally bores tunnels
and actually tunnels. In order to solve traffic, you really
need to go three D with roads, and by using tunnels,
you can essentially create create like like a wormhole, like
(05:31):
like a warf tunnel from one part of a city
to another and alleviate traffic. And we've actually already done
this proof of concept in Vegas. So they're working tunnels
in U in Las Vegas that you can use where
that'll just it feels like teleporting for one part of
Vegas to another. So I always say that. You know,
my joke is like tunnels are underappreciated. You know, it's
(05:55):
a bit of a I don't always a hit, but
so yeah, and then XAI is just trying to solve
general purpose artificial intelligence. The goal with XAI is to
(06:15):
have a maximally truth seeking AI, and it's important to
be maximally truth seeking AI in order to understand the universe.
So the goal of XAI is understand the universe, to
understand that, you know, you know, what is out there,
(06:36):
where's the universe going, where did it come from? What questions?
In fact, I think maybe the biggest thing is what
questions do we not know to ask? Like, once you
know the question, the answer is usually the easy part.
So the goal of XAI is helped understand the universe.
(06:58):
And yeah, that's the goal, and to help people answer
any questions along the way, of course, But I mean
that's my philosophy. My philosophy is a one of curiosity,
just trying to understand the nature of reality.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So I know you had a long day, but we
also have the Honorable President and his Royal Highness mus
the hitting.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The stage soon. So this is a historic.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Day, a partnership about how we could join hands together
as we have joined hands in the past ninety two
years on building a factor based economy to help the
world and power up twenty percent of the energy mix,
which is very critical today to the AI intelligence age,
the digital age and how we have reformed and with
the intelligent age. And we could not be more appreciative
(07:52):
of having a lifetime partner and a friend like you
Elon to the Kingdom, joining hands on
Now, I'm sure we can do a better welcome than
that to Elon Musk in saud Arabia. There you go,
that's the spurret. Thank you, Aylon, my dear friend. We're
honored to have President Trump. We're honored, under the sponsorship
and guidance of His Royal Highness to celebrate a US
(00:23):
Saudi and a Saudi US relationship that is ninety two
years old about how we move from an oil based
economy to an innovation based economy powered by wonderful technologies.
That definitely you're one of the pioneers in this industry.
We just showed to His Royal Highness some of your
(00:43):
Optimist robots and to President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Let's talk about that. Tell me about them. Yes, So
we just.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Showed several of our Tesla Optimist robots to His Highness
and President Trump, and I think they were very impressed.
In fact, one of our robots did the Trump Dance,
which I think was pretty cool. Y yeah to YMCA,
So yeah, robots can dance, they can walk around, they
(01:11):
can interact. I think we're headed to a radically different world.
I think I think a good world, an interesting world.
My prediction actually for humanoid robots is that ultimately there
will be tens of billions. I think everyone will want
(01:34):
to have their personal robot. You can think of it
like as though you had your own personal C three
PO or R two D two or even better, then
who wouldn't want to have their own personal C three
PO R two D two. That would be pretty great.
And I also think it unlocks an immense amount of
(01:57):
economic potential because when you think of like what is
the output of an economy, it is productivity per capita
at times population or capita. The Once you have humanoid robots,
the actual economic output potential is tremendous. It's really unlimited. Potentially,
(02:19):
we could have an economy ten times the size of
the current global economy where no one wants for anything.
You know. Sometimes in AI they talk about universal basic income.
I think it's actually going to be universal high income,
where anyone can have any goods or services that they want,
(02:45):
you know. A science fiction book recommendation that I have,
which I think is probably the best envisioning of an
AI future is the Culture Books by Ian Banks, very
highly recommended for a non dystopian view of the future.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Now, there obviously are some risks.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know which illustrate perhaps the if we don't do
this right, you know, you could have like a James
Cameron sort of movie, you know, Terminator, if we don't
want that one, but having sort of a star Trek
future would be great. We we're out there exploring the stars,
(03:29):
discovering the nature of the universe and a level of
prosperity and hopefully happiness that we can't quite imagine yet.
So I'm very excited about the future, and I'm very
glad to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's an absolute pleasure. And His Royal Highness was talking
to you about his vision and his dream to increase
productivity for the Kingdom of Saud Arabia and power up
the region and the whole world with robotics, but also
on robotaxis.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So how are we doing on robotaxis?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah? So really you can think of a car or
future cars as being robots on four wheels, and you know,
I think it'd be very exciting to have autonomous vehicles
here in the Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Indeed, if you're amenable.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You heard it, hear from El he's bringing his Robotaxi
to the Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He has another announcement that he.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, exactly so, and I'd also like to thank the
Kingdom for approving Starlink for maritime and aviation.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Use thank Maritime and Aviation. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So, yeah, so you're going to bring.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Us robots to help us increase our productivity, robotaxis to
make sure that our cars and assets turn into a
cash generating unit and start Link start Link to reform
our aviation and maritime.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, talk about x AI.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Absolutely, but I should want you to mention also something
that may be worth considering is tunnels.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The Boring Company.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I have this company called the Boring Company, which sounds
kind of boring, but it's it's it literally bores tunnels
and actually tunnels. In order to solve traffic, you really
need to go three D with roads, and by using tunnels,
you can essentially create create like like a wormhole, like
(05:31):
like a warf tunnel from one part of a city
to another and alleviate traffic. And we've actually already done
this proof of concept in Vegas. So they're working tunnels
in U in Las Vegas that you can use where
that'll just it feels like teleporting for one part of
Vegas to another. So I always say that. You know,
my joke is like tunnels are underappreciated. You know, it's
(05:55):
a bit of a I don't always a hit, but
so yeah, and then XAI is just trying to solve
general purpose artificial intelligence. The goal with XAI is to
(06:15):
have a maximally truth seeking AI, and it's important to
be maximally truth seeking AI in order to understand the universe.
So the goal of XAI is understand the universe, to
understand that, you know, you know, what is out there,
(06:36):
where's the universe going, where did it come from? What questions?
In fact, I think maybe the biggest thing is what
questions do we not know to ask? Like, once you
know the question, the answer is usually the easy part.
So the goal of XAI is helped understand the universe.
(06:58):
And yeah, that's the goal, and to help people answer
any questions along the way, of course, But I mean
that's my philosophy. My philosophy is a one of curiosity,
just trying to understand the nature of reality.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So I know you had a long day, but we
also have the Honorable President and his Royal Highness mus
the hitting.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The stage soon. So this is a historic.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Day, a partnership about how we could join hands together
as we have joined hands in the past ninety two
years on building a factor based economy to help the
world and power up twenty percent of the energy mix,
which is very critical today to the AI intelligence age,
the digital age and how we have reformed and with
the intelligent age. And we could not be more appreciative
(07:52):
of having a lifetime partner and a friend like you
Elon to the Kingdom, joining hands on
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