June 18, 2025 • 41 mins
In Part 2 of this courageous conversation, Naomi Morad continues to unveil her journey of surviving severe childhood abuse, trafficking, and satanic ritual trauma, this time diving deeper into the complex layers of healing and transformation. With raw honesty and profound spiritual insight, Naomi shares what it means to confront deep generational pain and reclaim power, purpose, and peace.
Now over two decades into her healing journey, Naomi opens up about the ongoing process of psychosomatic therapy, the spiritual awakening that helped her choose life, and the reality of continuing to shed old wounds in order to make room for wholeness. Her story is a testament to what it means to live fully after unthinkable darkness.
If you’ve ever felt like the past is too heavy to move forward, this episode is a reminder that healing is not only possible, it’s available.
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Now over two decades into her healing journey, Naomi opens up about the ongoing process of psychosomatic therapy, the spiritual awakening that helped her choose life, and the reality of continuing to shed old wounds in order to make room for wholeness. Her story is a testament to what it means to live fully after unthinkable darkness.
If you’ve ever felt like the past is too heavy to move forward, this episode is a reminder that healing is not only possible, it’s available.
⚠️ Trigger Warning & Disclaimer:
This episode contains sensitive content including sexual abuse, childhood trauma, and suicidal ideation. Viewer discretion is advised. The views and experiences shared are those of the guest and do not substitute for professional counseling or medical advice. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please seek immediate help or contact a local mental health provider.
📲 Watch, follow, and share at: YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Spotify | CTR Network TV
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/emerge-empower-podcast-tv--6068978/support.
🎙 Emerge & Empower Podcast TV – Hosted by Dr. Linda Joseph
📺 Watch on YouTube: youtube.com/@EmergeandEmpowerTV
🌐 Website: www.emergeandempowertv.com
📘 Facebook: facebook.com/dr.lindajoseph
💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drlindajoseph
📧 Guest inquiries & speaking requests: shemergenceinfo@gmail.com
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hello everyone, Hello, hello, and welcome again to this segment
of Emerge and Empower. And I pray that you are
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
We are in June and.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
John reflects the month for mental health, men's mental health,
and of course we have Father's Day because it's not
just the day but the month. Okay, we look at
the month just like we did for me, it was
about mother's and so Joan, this month is about other's
father's month. Take your father to the doctor, get them
checked up, do all that you need to do. And
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men's health matter, right, men's health botter. As we continue
this on Healing on Today. So we're coming back, Yes,
we're coming back for part two on Today with Naomi
as she continues her story and her journey and as
we get into her why many individuals come on here.
They have turned their pains into purpose and let no
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other Naomi has done the same. So I just want
to thank each and every one of you as you
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Ahead, share, share your share.
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As we bring Naomi right into the set, everyone go ahead.
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I'm waiting waiting for you to make that click.
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All right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We're waiting for you to make that transition. And Harry
is a beautiful NAO. As we have a picture here.
She has shared her past traumatic experience with our audience,
and we are here today for part two as we
continue in this journey to healing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
All right, healing and pain has different faces.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So it's never who you think or someone that you
might think is the strongest person in your family, and
they might be that individual that you has.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Gone through traumatic pain.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So it does not have a look, all right, just
as mental health doesn't have a look. So we need
to get out of the stigma how it's how it looks.
Because the person that you see is strongest doesn't necessarily
mean that they haven't been going through what they are
going through all right, So let us welcome our guests
on today, Naomi, Naomi, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome once again to.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Emerge and empower on today.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Let our listening audience know lit a little intro about you.
Who is Naomi on today? As we continue for part two.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
First of all, thank you for having me back. I'm
Naomi Maad, trauma formed psychosomatic practitioner for twenty five years almost.
And you just said, trauma doesn't always look a certain way,
like we don't know what a person has gone through.
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We don't know what this or that might look. We
see something from the outside and it doesn't reflect what's
happening on the inside. And that took me to a
thought that growing up being sexually abused and being severely
dissociated from what was happening, I was living two separate lives.
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I lived the life of the abuse and then I
lived my everyday life with my family where we had breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, where I went to school, where I met
up with my friends, and even me, I myself, wasn't
aware of the two lives that I was living, which
is a really crazy concept even to me today, so
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many years later, and only after I started remembering what
had actually happened to me at the age of twenty eight,
That's when I started my two lives started to to merge,
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and I was having more and more understandings of the
way I felt. And often in today's life, we walk
around with different feelings and sensations, we have different belief systems,
and we don't understand why we feel a certain way,
or why we think in certain ways, or why we
can't get out of our vicious cycle. And that is
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really often the result of trauma that we have experienced,
of subconscious thoughts and beliefs that we store inside of
us that we're not aware of, and these subconscious thoughts
and beliefs, they really run our lives. There's like a
whole program that happens in the background of our brain
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running our lives.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Indeed, last session, we dive right into your story and
I'm telling everyone to just go back and watch part one,
and we just continuing on today.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
As Naomi has shared.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now, as you can tell, she's a specialist in her
feel but it was a past experience that has brought
her to this place, not only as she was seeking
healing for herself and then so doing has become a
sauce to help other people heal as well. So you
decided to live also meant deciding to live fully.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
What did it mean to you to live fully?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
To live fully meant not to be on that I
used to feel like I was walking on this tightrope
in any moment I can fall off, and it was
making a commitment to living the best life I can live,
to a commitment to my own healing. And by saying
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I'm going to live fully and I'm going to heal
one hundred percent, I think this thought that came up
for me in that moment I'm going to heal one
hundred percent was like saying, Okay, I'm going to do
whatever it takes, and I'm committed to doing this, and
there's no more looking back, and there's no more thoughts
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of committing suicide, and there's no more thoughts of maybe
I'm going to stay, maybe I'm not going to stay.
And I think only when we make that step, or
at least for me, once I made that decision. And
it's sort of that like that with everything in our lives,
think about it. We want to lose weight as long
as we're like yeah, I'd like to lose weight, but
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I'm not sure. Then we're always going to go back
to the chocolate, to the French fries, to whatever it is,
to the soft drink. But once we make a commitment,
we're like one hundred percent clear, that's when things begin
to change. So it was really like that, and from
that moment I never looked back. I understood that I
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have two children at home that they need me, and
I guess I think I also realized that in that
moment that my life is worth living, a husband that
loved me, and I have to do whatever it takes
in order to live, and I wanted to be The
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sounds really weird to say, but like I guess, the
best version of what I can become. And I think
I had an understanding always, even growing up and even
during the abuse, that my life can be different. I
always walked around with that knowing, without understanding why I
think that way. Again, I had two separate lives. I
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didn't even understand why I had these thoughts and feelings,
but there was always something that told me my life
can be different, my life can be good, and that
was really my commitment to transforming my life.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So when we talk about living fully, there is such
a thing as existing versus living. So in the beginning,
you were existing. You were existing. Even though you met
your husband, you had your children, you had not yet
connected truly true that source of your healing. You were
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still probably disassociating. I'm going to survive and I'm going
to get through this. Probably you know, I'm not going
to think about this right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And of course in life we have.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Triggers, right And was it a trigger that brought you
to the place of saying, you know what, it's enough?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think even before I had children, I kept wondering
why I was so depressed, because I had been depressed
since before my sixteenth birthday. I suffered from severe depression.
Even after I got married. I went to therapy and
for a bit trying to work through my depression, but
I didn't really get very far. And only after I
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already had two children and my depression just worsened and worsened.
I finally decided to get help again, and that time
I went to see a psychosomatic therapist who, through body
mind work, I learned about my depression. I learned what
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gets me depressed. I learned what the triggers are how
every time I get angry, I fall into a depression
when I didn't even realize that I was getting angry
most of the time. It was like, so the more
I learned, the more I released that deep core depression
that I was caring with me, like it was really
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like a dark cloud over me. That's when my memory
started to show up. So that means I already started
my healing process without understanding what I was looking for.
I just knew that I needed to resolve this dark
cloud in my life. And my whole body would feel
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black from the inside, like that's the vision that I
would have, that everything is black from the inside, and
it was hard for me to breathe and yeah, really suffocating.
And after my first memories started to show up, that's
when I went into this crisis where I had to
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make that decision, Okay, this is so horrible what happened
to me? Do I want to live or do I
want to die? Like? Do I just give up it's
just too much and too overwhelming, or am I going
to find that strength to live and to live through
whatever that is and to thrive and healing is it
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never ends. I'm healing still today, twenty five years later,
I'm still healing, and there's always another that's in forever journey.
But I love it. I love it because it's so
so rewarding. Yes, so many people are so scared to
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touch their pain, and I say, we take our pain
wherever we go. We take it into relationships with our children,
and to work and to breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Literally,
it's like with us all the time. And that, to me,
is so much more difficult than actually starting to heal. Yes,
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we faced that pain face to face, but it's there
all the time anyway. At least now we're doing something
proactive in order to work through it. And as we
work through it, there's so many gifts along the way,
so many insights, and the pain just changes and transforms
all the time and becomes something different, becomes life force energy.
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Something that sucked us out, sucked our life energy out,
suddenly becomes life force energy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's true, So how as your experience shape your work today?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It shaped my work in so far that when I
first started studying, I felt like I didn't have enough
tools to help people move through doesn't matter what they
came with. That often I was tools I was, I
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felt I wasn't well enough equipped. So for I first
started studying in the year two thousand and I was
always more attracted to the field of psychosomatic therapy, which
is body mind related because for me, the trauma was
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very physical like I had Like I said, I felt
everything was pitch dark in my body. I had a
lot of physical aches and pains, and I would even
faint at that time. I would just lose consciousness in
the middle of the day. I had so many different
issues and if you think about it, even depression, like
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I felt this weight on my chest, like it sucks
you down. So for me, the connection between body and
mind was very very clear. Therefore, everything I studied was
connect and the more I learned, the more tools I
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had to help people shift and work through the trauma,
through the memories. And my goal was to be able
to to be able to support anyone who's coming to
my office, doesn't matter what the trauma was, what they
went through in life, no matter what that I had
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enough tools in order to support that person move through
and also doing my own healing. I constantly went to
different kinds of therapy and just I learned a lot
also through my own experience, and I think the more
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we heal, the more present we can be. Doesn't matter
what we do in life. I'm a therapist no matter
who you are and what you do. Even as a parent,
the more you heal, the more present you can be
with your children, with your family, everything.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So and your presence indeed make a difference when you're heal,
because you are, you're more like an encouragement like your
life to the family, like you, you become like a lifeline,
like where's mom?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Where is d the individual because even and you said.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
This very well, whether we wanted to acknowledge the pain
or not, the pain was with us every living, breathing moment.
Whatever you are doing, the pain is there. Ignoring it
or not, It's there. It's not going to go away
until you addresses It's like the elephants in the room.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You got to address the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And once you do, the scary part is people don't
want to touch that because of retaliation, because of other
people's reaction. But in truth, just like forgiveness, when they
say you forgive, it's not for the person, it's for you. Well,
the healing and the release is for you. All right,
you're carrying somebody else's burden. You're carrying the perpetrator, okay, burden.
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They're living freely doing living their life, and you're still
in a prison that they put you in mentally, psychologically,
and even physically. Because there are people literally who are
physically in jail and it's stemming, okay, from something that
was done to them as a child, okay, or in life,
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whether it's in marriage, okay, because there are different parts
in life where people face certain traumas. Right, it's really
life like it's golden and you're trapped. You're you're depressed,
you're not happy. But then again, you might seem to
be physically present, but you're not really.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Adding to this. There should be more. When you're healed,
there's more.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You have ideas, You are creative and people draw to
that happiness that is in you because you are healed.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And it's like, oh my god, so and so is fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Just like there are people that we don't want to
be around because being around them is so depressed thing.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Right, We hear it a lot. I don't want to
be around so and so. They so depressed that they are.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So you know, well, your presence might be there, But
what is your presence protruding? Is it a depressed state?
Is it anger? Okay? Or is it joy? Is it healing?
I like to be around so and so because I
feel like I can be myself. I like to be
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around so and so because they give the best hugs.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's what healing allows you to do, to contribute, okay,
to help the situation get better.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Because you're hell.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Because you're heal, you're a better person, all right, And
being a better person you bring in you know that
positive energy. You are a ray of hope, You are joy,
You are peace to somebody because you're ill, the opposite
of each and everything.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So, as you were learning for yourself what you needed
to work for you, and that also allowed you to
bring more in to help your clients because you went
through an experience and you understood some things might have
not worked for you and you had to find something
that worked. And you realize that everyone is different. What
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worked for you might not work for somebody else, right,
So let's talk about that in your work.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Today. I have a very big toolbox of how I
can work with people where I can adjust to everyone's needs.
But one thing that I have that is in common
with all the different modalities and techniques that I work
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with today, is that the work I do is very
It's easiest to explain by comparison right now, and not
because one is bad and the other one is good.
It's just a different approach and talk therapy. We use
our prefrontal brain, our near cortex, which is responsible for thinking,
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for language, for solving problems, and we use that in
order to solve our emotional issues. But it doesn't have
any access talk therapy to the underlying issues, to the
root cause of the pain that we're dealing with today.
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So I can understand logically, maybe better why I feel
the way I feel. I understand my past better to
a certain extent, but I cannot make any changes in life.
And that's why people often get stuck in talk therapy
for many, many years. They still have the anxiety, they
still suffer from depression, they still have difficulty in their relationships.
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Whereas the approach that I use, the techniques I work
with bypass the thinking mind. I use techniques such as
brain spotting, which is a trauma very effective tool to
work through trauma, through feelings, stuck feelings, and emotions. People
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come with certain issues that they feel stuck with today
and I help them process the root cause of their pain,
and we often reach early childhood trauma and everything that
is related to the pain that they're experiencing today. It
means instead of looking at the problem just from above,
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we bypass the thinking mind through accessing the body, the feeling,
the emotion. And it works through the eyes and brain sputting.
We say, where you look affects the way you feel,
and basically in our vision field, we have access points
that help us access unresolved feelings and emotions in our
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emotional brain, which is like in the back of our
brain and the felt body sense, and that gives us
direct access to everything that is connected to what we're
dealing with today. And it's a beautiful technique that is
very very gentle, very deep, very effective. I combine that
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with parts work and inner child healing. The reason we
are angry today or frustrated or feel stuck is really
later to things that we have experienced, usually in our
early childhood and this trauma that we experience from early on,
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and trauma is a very big word. People say, oh,
I didn't have trauma. I didn't wasn't sexually abused, I
wasn't beaten up, I wasn't didn't have anything traumatic happen.
But often trauma can be something very little where we're
crying as a baby and our mother doesn't immediately pick
us up, or our parent is busy right now, and
we interpret that through a certain lens, or we heard
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our parents fight and we make it we think that
this is our fault that they were fighting, and we
take these belief systems and they play out in everything
we do in our lives later. So they're like trauma
is like you can think of them a bit like
frozen time capsules that are just frozen in space and time.
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And when we access those time capsules that are time
and we bring healing to them and we become witnessed
to what happened to us at that those younger parts.
That's when true healing takes place. That's when we become
present to what happened and then can shift that and
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move forward in our lives.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Indeed, indeed, so in other words, we are spiritual beings,
right we we we not everything is reflective physically, you know, spiritually,
we have to be in tune with our spirit man
all right, for healing to work as well, not just
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on the physical level, because when we go and we
go in the depth of our brain and searching for
the soul of man, right, for the spirit of.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Man, for that healing to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So we have to be healed in all of these
layers in order for it to be a true healing to.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Move full lipful.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Well, yeah, absolutely. And when you think about it, when
you look at a baby, we look into their eyes,
it's like the most fascinating thing, isn't it. It's like
magic looking into their eyes because there's still that glow
of life, there's still pure They don't carry all the
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pain that we carry later on in life. And that's
what makes the baby so special. So the more we heal,
the more we access that pure part, that pure essence,
that really that God essence, that soul that we were
born with, and it's like clearing out the layers so
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we can shine that light again.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And it's it's a you know, when you think about
the innocence of a child and how pure that is,
and that is what God created for us to always
be in that mindset of that pure place, that that
beautiful place that place that is always expecting and hoping
and wishing and always wanting the best in things. And
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this is when it's unfortunate that people come in, all right,
and destroy that innocence at such an early age, you know,
where most children can't even remember what that pureness is,
what that hopefulness is, what it was to wish, what
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it was to dream, because it was taken away, robbed
from them at such an early age. And now when
you're healed, this is what a'm healing. Does you want
to be fun? You want to be giggly, You you
want to like live life, and it's they call it
playful because of that purity and that innocence, and you
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sincerely want to love on people, all right, and it's
a beautiful thing. It's unfortan when a child is robbed
of that. You know, evolved, but it's taken away. Because
when we talk about you in the last episode, it
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too it started so early, like you didn't know what
that pureeness was, that that you know to tap into that,
and so now as an adult, it's like you're trying
to recreate what that should have been, all right, And
I'm sure it's a beautiful thing for your children by
being present like mom is cool, she's fun, you know,
because now you want to connect to that pureness, that
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beautiful you know, it's just just nice, like you can't
put a finger on it, but you just know it's
good and you want to stay there.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I love this place, and I believe that we always
have this place inside of us, even maybe covered up
with many many layers, a deep town, deep inside at
our core we have we all carry that light that
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sparked that curiosity for life, that joy, and I think
looking back, it was that little bit that was still
there at my core that wanted me to transform my life,
that wanted to live fully and wholeheartedly, that knew that
something else is possible.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, yes, so I know we can't talk about clients
and experiences, but can you tell us of the techniques
that actually work for individuals? What is like for someone
to come to you and as you take them to
this step? Have you actually had someone that's a little
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bit longer to get them to that point of healing?
And what was that place that they seem to have
been stuck at for so long? Is it because they
just didn't want to release it? They didn't want to
go there.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What is that like?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
First of all, there is no one recipe for healing,
and for the time that it takes. Each person is
an individual. Each one's system is built so differently, and
there are people who zip through and every time we
meet every week, they go through tremendous healing, and others
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take like mini steps and another mini step and another
mini step, and then suddenly there's like they feel like,
oh wow, you know, I've just moved from A to
D not A to be And then it's another small
step and another small step, and others they take leaps, right,
But in general, I can say healing is a process
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and from my experience, we're only ready when we're ready
for the next step, and sometimes it takes lot. Sometimes
it goes faster, and even during our healing, sometimes you know,
we can move through certain pain faster and other things
will take us longer. And there is no right or wrong.
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There is just being present to what it is that
the person needs each session, and every time a person
comes in, they come in a little differently. Think about it.
When you wake up, even you're feeling in a certain way,
and then two hours later you can feel completely different
and again throughout the day and throughout the weeks. So
(31:54):
I will always meet the person exactly where they are
and what they need in that moment as we move.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
So that's.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Right, right, So that is why I said that, because
I realized some people might say, well, I don't I
don't want to do well you until you decide that
this is what you want and take a step. Unfortunately,
no one can make you do anything you don't want
to do. You have to be ready to want to
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be healed, all right, And it's more that I will
do it one day.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Make today that day? Why wait? Why be in.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
A place of existence without healing done? Live in a
world of joy with healing. Okay, Sometimes we baby that
place because that's where we're now, that's what we know,
and you surround yourself with a lot of familiarities, which
is all that's doing is hurting you, because there's more
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to life.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
There's a lot of near of change. For people, change
is scary, and even though we we want to change,
it's what we know is often most comfortable. And if
we know, we already know how to deal with our pain,
We know how to cope with our depression, with our anxiety,
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We have like certain habits built around that, and that
gives us a sense of safety, as miserable as it
may be. And creating a change, even though it will
improve your life drastically, takes energy and effort, and more
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than anything, it takes willingness. And it's to take that
step and to say, Okay, I already know what I know,
be curious about what else life have to offer. How
else could my life maybe be look like? And I
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think another thing is people often don't believe that they
can really make a change, that it's really possible. They
think that whatever they're dealing with is so big and
so overwhelming and so painful that it's not worthwhile trying,
that nothing is going to help, and everything they've tried.
And I have many of my clients who come to
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me and they say, I've tried everything. I've done this
and this and this and this therapy and nothing's done anything.
And it's really the reason I'm here today and the
reason I'm speaking up is because I want people to
know there is a way to heal and transform your life. Truly,
it is possible. I know it from my own life,
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and I know it from countless individuals that I'm work with,
and I'm working with today that it really truly is
possible to transform your life.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Hey man.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So transformation is real. It's possible, but it starts with
you making a decision. So as we're about to close,
I will close out in a prayer. Prayer is also
an effective one as well, because it's also a form
of communication. But just to give you the courage to
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step out for yourself, give you the courage to move forward,
give you the courage to say, you know what this
is it, I'm done holding onto this. I want to
release this. I want to take this weight off of life.
I want to be whole. Right, So let us pray
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they're in the name of Jesus. As I come here
on today, we act for your coverage for each and
every person that's under the sound of my voice. Maybe
it's not them, but it's a loved one that they're
trying to help through this dark place so that they
can just come into this light of full joy and
healing and peace. Those who said last year I would
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do it this year, or the year before. Year after year,
they still hold on. Father, We ask, oh God, that
you bring them to that place of peace, to a
place where it's time to unpack and get rid of
the load that they've been carrying all these years, so they.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Can walk with their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
High and not with their head and.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Onload, because they should not be ashamed of what was
done to them. It was not their fault.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it's time for them to we clean their life
and to stop existing and starving. Today a state got
on this ride called life and said, I've been carrying
touch and it's time to declutter. It's time to get
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rid of the old and walk into the view for
their so much in store for them that's attached to
the healing, the blessing that it is attached to the healing,
the deliverence that is attached to the healing, a voice
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that is attached to their healing.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Don't help others.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Instead of them being pulled out of this hole of darkness,
they'll be on the other end pulling someone else out
because they ones were in that place, just like Naomi
was in that place.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
And today she's pulling people. She's pulling people.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's like I see a street with a hole in
it and she's pulling people up, pulling them up. Come
on up, Come on up, Come on up from this
dark place, come into the light of healing, into the
light of joy.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
So Father, we thank you on today, and she says,
stay my pray. Amen.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Amen, thank you so nay for being on the set
of Emerge and Empower. Everyone who would like to connect
with her. All her links will be in the bio.
If you find her relatable and you think I think
I finally found the one based on the testimony that
she has shared on today, please reach out and when
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you do, let her know that you saw or heard
it on Emerged and Empower, so we know that we
are helping you emerge stronger as you move forward. Once again, Naomi,
thank you so much for being on the set on
today and will know that you will have to be
a strength here.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Thank you, doctor Linney, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
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All right, healing and pain has different faces.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So it's never who you think or someone that you
might think is the strongest person in your family, and
they might be that individual that you has.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Gone through traumatic pain.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So it does not have a look, all right, just
as mental health doesn't have a look. So we need
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Because the person that you see is strongest doesn't necessarily
mean that they haven't been going through what they are
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Speaker 3 (04:22):
Emerge and empower on today.
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Let our listening audience know lit a little intro about you.
Who is Naomi on today? As we continue for part two.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
First of all, thank you for having me back. I'm
Naomi Maad, trauma formed psychosomatic practitioner for twenty five years almost.
And you just said, trauma doesn't always look a certain way,
like we don't know what a person has gone through.
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We don't know what this or that might look. We
see something from the outside and it doesn't reflect what's
happening on the inside. And that took me to a
thought that growing up being sexually abused and being severely
dissociated from what was happening, I was living two separate lives.
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I lived the life of the abuse and then I
lived my everyday life with my family where we had breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, where I went to school, where I met
up with my friends, and even me, I myself, wasn't
aware of the two lives that I was living, which
is a really crazy concept even to me today, so
(05:44):
many years later, and only after I started remembering what
had actually happened to me at the age of twenty eight,
That's when I started my two lives started to to merge,
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and I was having more and more understandings of the
way I felt. And often in today's life, we walk
around with different feelings and sensations, we have different belief systems,
and we don't understand why we feel a certain way,
or why we think in certain ways, or why we
can't get out of our vicious cycle. And that is
(06:27):
really often the result of trauma that we have experienced,
of subconscious thoughts and beliefs that we store inside of
us that we're not aware of, and these subconscious thoughts
and beliefs, they really run our lives. There's like a
whole program that happens in the background of our brain
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running our lives.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Indeed, last session, we dive right into your story and
I'm telling everyone to just go back and watch part one,
and we just continuing on today.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
As Naomi has shared.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now, as you can tell, she's a specialist in her
feel but it was a past experience that has brought
her to this place, not only as she was seeking
healing for herself and then so doing has become a
sauce to help other people heal as well. So you
decided to live also meant deciding to live fully.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
What did it mean to you to live fully?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
To live fully meant not to be on that I
used to feel like I was walking on this tightrope
in any moment I can fall off, and it was
making a commitment to living the best life I can live,
to a commitment to my own healing. And by saying
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I'm going to live fully and I'm going to heal
one hundred percent, I think this thought that came up
for me in that moment I'm going to heal one
hundred percent was like saying, Okay, I'm going to do
whatever it takes, and I'm committed to doing this, and
there's no more looking back, and there's no more thoughts
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of committing suicide, and there's no more thoughts of maybe
I'm going to stay, maybe I'm not going to stay.
And I think only when we make that step, or
at least for me, once I made that decision. And
it's sort of that like that with everything in our lives,
think about it. We want to lose weight as long
as we're like yeah, I'd like to lose weight, but
(08:49):
I'm not sure. Then we're always going to go back
to the chocolate, to the French fries, to whatever it is,
to the soft drink. But once we make a commitment,
we're like one hundred percent clear, that's when things begin
to change. So it was really like that, and from
that moment I never looked back. I understood that I
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have two children at home that they need me, and
I guess I think I also realized that in that
moment that my life is worth living, a husband that
loved me, and I have to do whatever it takes
in order to live, and I wanted to be The
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sounds really weird to say, but like I guess, the
best version of what I can become. And I think
I had an understanding always, even growing up and even
during the abuse, that my life can be different. I
always walked around with that knowing, without understanding why I
think that way. Again, I had two separate lives. I
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didn't even understand why I had these thoughts and feelings,
but there was always something that told me my life
can be different, my life can be good, and that
was really my commitment to transforming my life.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So when we talk about living fully, there is such
a thing as existing versus living. So in the beginning,
you were existing. You were existing. Even though you met
your husband, you had your children, you had not yet
connected truly true that source of your healing. You were
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still probably disassociating. I'm going to survive and I'm going
to get through this. Probably you know, I'm not going
to think about this right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And of course in life we have.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Triggers, right And was it a trigger that brought you
to the place of saying, you know what, it's enough?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think even before I had children, I kept wondering
why I was so depressed, because I had been depressed
since before my sixteenth birthday. I suffered from severe depression.
Even after I got married. I went to therapy and
for a bit trying to work through my depression, but
I didn't really get very far. And only after I
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already had two children and my depression just worsened and worsened.
I finally decided to get help again, and that time
I went to see a psychosomatic therapist who, through body
mind work, I learned about my depression. I learned what
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gets me depressed. I learned what the triggers are how
every time I get angry, I fall into a depression
when I didn't even realize that I was getting angry
most of the time. It was like, so the more
I learned, the more I released that deep core depression
that I was caring with me, like it was really
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like a dark cloud over me. That's when my memory
started to show up. So that means I already started
my healing process without understanding what I was looking for.
I just knew that I needed to resolve this dark
cloud in my life. And my whole body would feel
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black from the inside, like that's the vision that I
would have, that everything is black from the inside, and
it was hard for me to breathe and yeah, really suffocating.
And after my first memories started to show up, that's
when I went into this crisis where I had to
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make that decision, Okay, this is so horrible what happened
to me? Do I want to live or do I
want to die? Like? Do I just give up it's
just too much and too overwhelming, or am I going
to find that strength to live and to live through
whatever that is and to thrive and healing is it
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never ends. I'm healing still today, twenty five years later,
I'm still healing, and there's always another that's in forever journey.
But I love it. I love it because it's so
so rewarding. Yes, so many people are so scared to
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touch their pain, and I say, we take our pain
wherever we go. We take it into relationships with our children,
and to work and to breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Literally,
it's like with us all the time. And that, to me,
is so much more difficult than actually starting to heal. Yes,
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we faced that pain face to face, but it's there
all the time anyway. At least now we're doing something
proactive in order to work through it. And as we
work through it, there's so many gifts along the way,
so many insights, and the pain just changes and transforms
all the time and becomes something different, becomes life force energy.
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Something that sucked us out, sucked our life energy out,
suddenly becomes life force energy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's true, So how as your experience shape your work today?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It shaped my work in so far that when I
first started studying, I felt like I didn't have enough
tools to help people move through doesn't matter what they
came with. That often I was tools I was, I
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felt I wasn't well enough equipped. So for I first
started studying in the year two thousand and I was
always more attracted to the field of psychosomatic therapy, which
is body mind related because for me, the trauma was
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very physical like I had Like I said, I felt
everything was pitch dark in my body. I had a
lot of physical aches and pains, and I would even
faint at that time. I would just lose consciousness in
the middle of the day. I had so many different
issues and if you think about it, even depression, like
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I felt this weight on my chest, like it sucks
you down. So for me, the connection between body and
mind was very very clear. Therefore, everything I studied was
connect and the more I learned, the more tools I
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had to help people shift and work through the trauma,
through the memories. And my goal was to be able
to to be able to support anyone who's coming to
my office, doesn't matter what the trauma was, what they
went through in life, no matter what that I had
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enough tools in order to support that person move through
and also doing my own healing. I constantly went to
different kinds of therapy and just I learned a lot
also through my own experience, and I think the more
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we heal, the more present we can be. Doesn't matter
what we do in life. I'm a therapist no matter
who you are and what you do. Even as a parent,
the more you heal, the more present you can be
with your children, with your family, everything.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So and your presence indeed make a difference when you're heal,
because you are, you're more like an encouragement like your
life to the family, like you, you become like a lifeline,
like where's mom?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Where is d the individual because even and you said.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
This very well, whether we wanted to acknowledge the pain
or not, the pain was with us every living, breathing moment.
Whatever you are doing, the pain is there. Ignoring it
or not, It's there. It's not going to go away
until you addresses It's like the elephants in the room.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You got to address the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And once you do, the scary part is people don't
want to touch that because of retaliation, because of other
people's reaction. But in truth, just like forgiveness, when they
say you forgive, it's not for the person, it's for you. Well,
the healing and the release is for you. All right,
you're carrying somebody else's burden. You're carrying the perpetrator, okay, burden.
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They're living freely doing living their life, and you're still
in a prison that they put you in mentally, psychologically,
and even physically. Because there are people literally who are
physically in jail and it's stemming, okay, from something that
was done to them as a child, okay, or in life,
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whether it's in marriage, okay, because there are different parts
in life where people face certain traumas. Right, it's really
life like it's golden and you're trapped. You're you're depressed,
you're not happy. But then again, you might seem to
be physically present, but you're not really.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Adding to this. There should be more. When you're healed,
there's more.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You have ideas, You are creative and people draw to
that happiness that is in you because you are healed.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And it's like, oh my god, so and so is fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Just like there are people that we don't want to
be around because being around them is so depressed thing.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Right, We hear it a lot. I don't want to
be around so and so. They so depressed that they are.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So you know, well, your presence might be there, But
what is your presence protruding? Is it a depressed state?
Is it anger? Okay? Or is it joy? Is it healing?
I like to be around so and so because I
feel like I can be myself. I like to be
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around so and so because they give the best hugs.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's what healing allows you to do, to contribute, okay,
to help the situation get better.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Because you're hell.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Because you're heal, you're a better person, all right, And
being a better person you bring in you know that
positive energy. You are a ray of hope, You are joy,
You are peace to somebody because you're ill, the opposite
of each and everything.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So, as you were learning for yourself what you needed
to work for you, and that also allowed you to
bring more in to help your clients because you went
through an experience and you understood some things might have
not worked for you and you had to find something
that worked. And you realize that everyone is different. What
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worked for you might not work for somebody else, right,
So let's talk about that in your work.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Today. I have a very big toolbox of how I
can work with people where I can adjust to everyone's needs.
But one thing that I have that is in common
with all the different modalities and techniques that I work
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with today, is that the work I do is very
It's easiest to explain by comparison right now, and not
because one is bad and the other one is good.
It's just a different approach and talk therapy. We use
our prefrontal brain, our near cortex, which is responsible for thinking,
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for language, for solving problems, and we use that in
order to solve our emotional issues. But it doesn't have
any access talk therapy to the underlying issues, to the
root cause of the pain that we're dealing with today.
(22:01):
So I can understand logically, maybe better why I feel
the way I feel. I understand my past better to
a certain extent, but I cannot make any changes in life.
And that's why people often get stuck in talk therapy
for many, many years. They still have the anxiety, they
still suffer from depression, they still have difficulty in their relationships.
(22:25):
Whereas the approach that I use, the techniques I work
with bypass the thinking mind. I use techniques such as
brain spotting, which is a trauma very effective tool to
work through trauma, through feelings, stuck feelings, and emotions. People
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come with certain issues that they feel stuck with today
and I help them process the root cause of their pain,
and we often reach early childhood trauma and everything that
is related to the pain that they're experiencing today. It
means instead of looking at the problem just from above,
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we bypass the thinking mind through accessing the body, the feeling,
the emotion. And it works through the eyes and brain sputting.
We say, where you look affects the way you feel,
and basically in our vision field, we have access points
that help us access unresolved feelings and emotions in our
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emotional brain, which is like in the back of our
brain and the felt body sense, and that gives us
direct access to everything that is connected to what we're
dealing with today. And it's a beautiful technique that is
very very gentle, very deep, very effective. I combine that
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with parts work and inner child healing. The reason we
are angry today or frustrated or feel stuck is really
later to things that we have experienced, usually in our
early childhood and this trauma that we experience from early on,
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and trauma is a very big word. People say, oh,
I didn't have trauma. I didn't wasn't sexually abused, I
wasn't beaten up, I wasn't didn't have anything traumatic happen.
But often trauma can be something very little where we're
crying as a baby and our mother doesn't immediately pick
us up, or our parent is busy right now, and
we interpret that through a certain lens, or we heard
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our parents fight and we make it we think that
this is our fault that they were fighting, and we
take these belief systems and they play out in everything
we do in our lives later. So they're like trauma
is like you can think of them a bit like
frozen time capsules that are just frozen in space and time.
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And when we access those time capsules that are time
and we bring healing to them and we become witnessed
to what happened to us at that those younger parts.
That's when true healing takes place. That's when we become
present to what happened and then can shift that and
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move forward in our lives.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Indeed, indeed, so in other words, we are spiritual beings,
right we we we not everything is reflective physically, you know, spiritually,
we have to be in tune with our spirit man
all right, for healing to work as well, not just
(25:45):
on the physical level, because when we go and we
go in the depth of our brain and searching for
the soul of man, right, for the spirit of.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Man, for that healing to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So we have to be healed in all of these
layers in order for it to be a true healing to.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Move full lipful.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Well, yeah, absolutely. And when you think about it, when
you look at a baby, we look into their eyes,
it's like the most fascinating thing, isn't it. It's like
magic looking into their eyes because there's still that glow
of life, there's still pure They don't carry all the
(26:33):
pain that we carry later on in life. And that's
what makes the baby so special. So the more we heal,
the more we access that pure part, that pure essence,
that really that God essence, that soul that we were
born with, and it's like clearing out the layers so
(26:56):
we can shine that light again.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And it's it's a you know, when you think about
the innocence of a child and how pure that is,
and that is what God created for us to always
be in that mindset of that pure place, that that
beautiful place that place that is always expecting and hoping
and wishing and always wanting the best in things. And
(27:22):
this is when it's unfortunate that people come in, all right,
and destroy that innocence at such an early age, you know,
where most children can't even remember what that pureness is,
what that hopefulness is, what it was to wish, what
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it was to dream, because it was taken away, robbed
from them at such an early age. And now when
you're healed, this is what a'm healing. Does you want
to be fun? You want to be giggly, You you
want to like live life, and it's they call it
playful because of that purity and that innocence, and you
(28:05):
sincerely want to love on people, all right, and it's
a beautiful thing. It's unfortan when a child is robbed
of that. You know, evolved, but it's taken away. Because
when we talk about you in the last episode, it
(28:30):
too it started so early, like you didn't know what
that pureeness was, that that you know to tap into that,
and so now as an adult, it's like you're trying
to recreate what that should have been, all right, And
I'm sure it's a beautiful thing for your children by
being present like mom is cool, she's fun, you know,
because now you want to connect to that pureness, that
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beautiful you know, it's just just nice, like you can't
put a finger on it, but you just know it's
good and you want to stay there.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I love this place, and I believe that we always
have this place inside of us, even maybe covered up
with many many layers, a deep town, deep inside at
our core we have we all carry that light that
(29:23):
sparked that curiosity for life, that joy, and I think
looking back, it was that little bit that was still
there at my core that wanted me to transform my life,
that wanted to live fully and wholeheartedly, that knew that
something else is possible.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, yes, so I know we can't talk about clients
and experiences, but can you tell us of the techniques
that actually work for individuals? What is like for someone
to come to you and as you take them to
this step? Have you actually had someone that's a little
(30:07):
bit longer to get them to that point of healing?
And what was that place that they seem to have
been stuck at for so long? Is it because they
just didn't want to release it? They didn't want to
go there.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What is that like?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
First of all, there is no one recipe for healing,
and for the time that it takes. Each person is
an individual. Each one's system is built so differently, and
there are people who zip through and every time we
meet every week, they go through tremendous healing, and others
(30:50):
take like mini steps and another mini step and another
mini step, and then suddenly there's like they feel like,
oh wow, you know, I've just moved from A to
D not A to be And then it's another small
step and another small step, and others they take leaps, right,
But in general, I can say healing is a process
(31:11):
and from my experience, we're only ready when we're ready
for the next step, and sometimes it takes lot. Sometimes
it goes faster, and even during our healing, sometimes you know,
we can move through certain pain faster and other things
will take us longer. And there is no right or wrong.
(31:32):
There is just being present to what it is that
the person needs each session, and every time a person
comes in, they come in a little differently. Think about it.
When you wake up, even you're feeling in a certain way,
and then two hours later you can feel completely different
and again throughout the day and throughout the weeks. So
(31:54):
I will always meet the person exactly where they are
and what they need in that moment as we move.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
So that's.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Right, right, So that is why I said that, because
I realized some people might say, well, I don't I
don't want to do well you until you decide that
this is what you want and take a step. Unfortunately,
no one can make you do anything you don't want
to do. You have to be ready to want to
(32:28):
be healed, all right, And it's more that I will
do it one day.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Make today that day? Why wait? Why be in.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
A place of existence without healing done? Live in a
world of joy with healing. Okay, Sometimes we baby that
place because that's where we're now, that's what we know,
and you surround yourself with a lot of familiarities, which
is all that's doing is hurting you, because there's more
(32:57):
to life.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
There's a lot of near of change. For people, change
is scary, and even though we we want to change,
it's what we know is often most comfortable. And if
we know, we already know how to deal with our pain,
We know how to cope with our depression, with our anxiety,
(33:19):
We have like certain habits built around that, and that
gives us a sense of safety, as miserable as it
may be. And creating a change, even though it will
improve your life drastically, takes energy and effort, and more
(33:41):
than anything, it takes willingness. And it's to take that
step and to say, Okay, I already know what I know,
be curious about what else life have to offer. How
else could my life maybe be look like? And I
(34:02):
think another thing is people often don't believe that they
can really make a change, that it's really possible. They
think that whatever they're dealing with is so big and
so overwhelming and so painful that it's not worthwhile trying,
that nothing is going to help, and everything they've tried.
And I have many of my clients who come to
(34:23):
me and they say, I've tried everything. I've done this
and this and this and this therapy and nothing's done anything.
And it's really the reason I'm here today and the
reason I'm speaking up is because I want people to
know there is a way to heal and transform your life. Truly,
it is possible. I know it from my own life,
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and I know it from countless individuals that I'm work with,
and I'm working with today that it really truly is
possible to transform your life.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Hey man.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So transformation is real. It's possible, but it starts with
you making a decision. So as we're about to close,
I will close out in a prayer. Prayer is also
an effective one as well, because it's also a form
of communication. But just to give you the courage to
(35:23):
step out for yourself, give you the courage to move forward,
give you the courage to say, you know what this
is it, I'm done holding onto this. I want to
release this. I want to take this weight off of life.
I want to be whole. Right, So let us pray
(35:45):
they're in the name of Jesus. As I come here
on today, we act for your coverage for each and
every person that's under the sound of my voice. Maybe
it's not them, but it's a loved one that they're
trying to help through this dark place so that they
can just come into this light of full joy and
healing and peace. Those who said last year I would
(36:09):
do it this year, or the year before. Year after year,
they still hold on. Father, We ask, oh God, that
you bring them to that place of peace, to a
place where it's time to unpack and get rid of
the load that they've been carrying all these years, so they.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Can walk with their shoulders.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
High and not with their head and.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Onload, because they should not be ashamed of what was
done to them. It was not their fault.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it's time for them to we clean their life
and to stop existing and starving. Today a state got
on this ride called life and said, I've been carrying
touch and it's time to declutter. It's time to get
(37:04):
rid of the old and walk into the view for
their so much in store for them that's attached to
the healing, the blessing that it is attached to the healing,
the deliverence that is attached to the healing, a voice
(37:25):
that is attached to their healing.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Don't help others.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Instead of them being pulled out of this hole of darkness,
they'll be on the other end pulling someone else out
because they ones were in that place, just like Naomi
was in that place.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
And today she's pulling people. She's pulling people.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's like I see a street with a hole in
it and she's pulling people up, pulling them up. Come
on up, Come on up, Come on up from this
dark place, come into the light of healing, into the
light of joy.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
So Father, we thank you on today, and she says,
stay my pray. Amen.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Amen, thank you so nay for being on the set
of Emerge and Empower. Everyone who would like to connect
with her. All her links will be in the bio.
If you find her relatable and you think I think
I finally found the one based on the testimony that
she has shared on today, please reach out and when
(38:32):
you do, let her know that you saw or heard
it on Emerged and Empower, so we know that we
are helping you emerge stronger as you move forward. Once again, Naomi,
thank you so much for being on the set on
today and will know that you will have to be
a strength here.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Thank you, doctor Linney, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
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