Ep. 7: Reggaetón aprobado por Chayanne (artistas que incursionaron en el género urbano)

El séptimo episodio de En El Beat es una conversación sobre algunos artistas, conocidos por interpretar música en otros géneros, que decidieron mostrar su versatilidad y grabar canciones de género urbano. ¿Por qué decidieron grabar reggaetón? ¿Sus nuevas canciones tuvieron acogida? 

Host: Víctor Pino Henao 
Panelistas: Andrés David Arias (Party DJ) y Jhon Jairo Palacios (Jey P El Residente)
Grabación: Rigoberto Hernández
Producción: Erika Mesa Díaz
Un producto ORO Pódcast, de la Organización Radial Olímpica S. A.

Episode Transcript

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tante. We arrive again, wemeet, we see faces again in beats,

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the perreo down and the parribato storiesis in the sofi talking about reggaetoncito,
talking about the whole history of thisgenre that has marked a generation that
we, as a generation, sawborn. We give ourselves the pleasure of
seeing a genre born that today ninegreat threads of the music industry boys around

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here, as always, accompany usthese melodious voices not lied, besides that
real melodious connoisseurs of the genre.Here' s the owner. Or how
we are Reddy to play another themetoday in this Podcast, in the Beat,
in this other tibi corner or we' re going to face it.

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That' s extra microphone. We' ve got big jade foot. Thank
you, thank you. I loveit. It' ll be me.
René Ds will already think of usin ja what to think Not that he
looks. If I ask you whatyou think of this and René gives me
his opinion and li gop. Butcome on, because when I put it
on, you weren' t stuckin Colombia. Sorry, it was called
13th Street, I didn' tcall a resident or a reindeer or anything

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like that. You use more.His name was resident and visitor. No.
When I put on j PNP seven. It was about two thousand six,
that is, we in Colombia didnot know the recit but street ne
nos ah no in that year.I remember the year two thousand six,
to see had landed somewhere Kolin Chunchu. Sir, the first song was not
13th Street in Colombia or directly inCali, which we realized was called a

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resident. And that' s whatdissipates me. We came to know later,
because we first knew him as 13thStreet. He went to Treville,
yes, in the year two thousandseven before or Guste busts marte blanket honors
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Voltio. Yes, sir, no, I don' t think I see
it as possible. Yeah, Idon' t see it possible, and
if it was, I' mnot interested, because today, incurinchun flys
or not after Atrevity two. Sirdid not leave years ago, but good
there in another n the one two. First be good my shows, because
I don' t get good onYouTube. They truly show in it from
Google that there comes out the.Gentlemen, you' re better off than

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a debate so squeaked from the side. Yes, sir, publication of Chulliyng
Coolin Chun Flight Di If I amJanuary two thousand or six, now I
will give you street three. Let' s go find the 13th Street album,
I who you put thirteen years oldis six or here from Jamil and
Vargas JP. The truth made himnervous. Tell her what year she went
out three to two thousand five andlet' s continue a good end in

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her mouth. It was not knownthe year two here and Jouly Conringju Fly
in the two thousand twenty- nine. We' re going on. Thank
you so much We' re goingto talk here today. Thank you Gale
good event. After this hot andeffervescent moment that we had with our guests
today at the beat, we willcontinue to talk precisely about the urban genre,

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which, as we said minutes ago, has marked a whole generation.
And we can talk about it becausewe saw the birth of this. We
used to listen to project one,Sandy Pappo, the successes of Vallenato,
the successes of pop an lo dela balapo, hip hop in English,
hip hop, all those genres thathave always existed, but we saw there
the birth of the urban genre.Today we can say that the urban genre

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is so great, that the musicindustry is very well looking at them.
Okay, because we' re gonnaget to this point. This genre has
been so strong that it is alreadya genre. You guys haven' t
noticed that other artists we were talkingabout before, those pop ones have been
a little urban tarse and those whocriticized the reggaeton, b why the fuck
we have to be hearing that.I haven' t found John Lennon of

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the reggaeton that good that there's tony Quemas sounds different and to motivate
me to make the music that Ilove, not the one that suits me
everywhere, and I also think it' s fashionable stuff then if it comes
to Islands, because it' sthat it wasn' t even that they
didn' t like it, itdidn' t criticize it, that it
would be rude that what genre thatdanced here, one thing that the other

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and another was that everyone just invitedsexual acts. Because there were very bad
comments about the urban genre. Myfamily didn' t have a good time
We didn' t go blindfolding eachother. I don' t mean,
I think Paris, which thought itwas good in the year that Reggaeton entered
the world and more directly to Colombia. I would think it was a time
when the world was still very devastated. You don' t understand me,

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that' s like we saw aperson indoors on TV and that was a
thing. I would suddenly, withthe evolution of social networks, have also
suddenly the evolution of thought for mostpeople to open up a little bit and
then suddenly a nude. That is, it is very normal as we saw
it suddenly was in the two thousandyears, in the beginnings of the two
thousand. It is that saying thatpeople have been disinhibiting little by little,

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it is true that the reggaeton arriveduninhibited for many years Yes, yes,
come talking about perate dancing as suchcame, since glued and other genres that
we have already talked about in otherchapters of beating. It was a very
sensual dance. Well, I've seen in movies where the woman,
the lady, puts her hand onthe man' s chest to create a
space when they danced between the twoof us and not generate that contact and

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give him the opportunity to have badthoughts to the daddy with the reggaeton.
I was a lot of clothes today, there are no octaves. It'
s not good. It hasn't happened to me, but I have
a record of friends from a fewyears ago dating the sheath like that from
every little dance they hit with anychin ok. They came out with fire,
they knew with desire, to catcha fan and, as the song
says, also of humans, ofa palmotherm two weeks of reo. Yeah,

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that' s exactly what I had. Many friends lived like that sheath.
And obviously, when the reggaeton arrives, to move the world, because
it moved the world to us all, I would believe there of cinema and
saw many people come to that wehave less the world, because obviously the
artists would be in favor of themoms, of the dads, of the
ethical, of what is right.You can' t say this rudeness.
Nodi can say this word. Idon' t know what. And now
the reggaeton is the most consumed genusin the world. Imagine yourself out there

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in the year two thousand four,when they were doing the children' s
parties, because I was going withthe classmates of the school, Father sas
I miss everything chin I can't attest to what Jape said because there
was a schoolmate who moved me thefisso and obviously, they gave me for
waves, because ah not that Isaw myself as a little brother. Right,
he gave me a hand here,but very dear. Yes, yes,

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yes, but I see it asa little brother, because obviously,
when it was carrot parties, Iused to take advantage of tint there but
you got on the street. We' re saying we' re gonna be
faithful if he' s going togo out with your friend. And because
not anymore, because it is thatshe liked me, I liked her look
at you, but it is notthat I no longer stop you balls like
I go to see, because shesays no, no, no, no,
no, too much pa that doesn' t stop me from flying.
We have to take advantage of itin a way when two hundred are challenged.

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No, I was, the truthwas not very partying. I went
to the minitheques very few times soI don' t like chiquitecas, minite
not me if they were yes.That' s why I can' t
talk about fierrations inside the dance,right, but what I can talk about
is that I literally saw my friendscoming out of the chuiringon ready for the

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chivirita and besides that the dance,when that was more sensual, had more
to say that it was bords orthe bai. The old ladies would bend
and all that would stick against thewall I got bored or were made towards
the floor. We, when theyput on the floor, told him to
pick corn, yes, yes,Mom, but it was to pick bigger
gina yes and take the old womanthat I am crouched and tasted stuck,
I know what it is. Asa matter of fact, he' s

(07:46):
a Maist, so I know whathe is. Just today, well,
we' ve been talking about thisand there' s already been a lot
of changes. The evolution, notonly of the human being, of the
life of music has led to manyartists who do not belong to the genre
who somehow saw it banal, seeingit fleeting. That doesn' t work,
they didn' t see him commercialbecause they gave him a lot of
stick. Today, seeing the industry, how it has moved and how,

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for example, in music awards theyalready have very important categories such as even
better song and better album, havingthe album of the year, where more
than today exactly that already, thatis another level. Pino I think beyond
that they put categories directed directly tothe reggaeton. We are winning all categories,
reggaeton cams and those that are notdirected to reggaeton until the best pop

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song Krogi checks out where the popis there exactly, but it is a
reggaeton song winning prizes in other genres. If we go to that, Spotify
listings, for example, the bestsongs to sing full lung s weight pen,
Carol g Bad Bonny are there.There weren' t those Ricky Martin

(08:56):
Shaya flagless songs. There' sno such songs the best genre. That
said, he took everything, tookthe world, took the mondi and they
are so they no longer make himreggaeton, but call him urban pop.
If the urban is that all ofa sudden when they started doing that,
because you know that the genre waswith all the artists of the kill,
uy the read of it give Yankee. Maybe that suddenly put in tendency to

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give a ass to the genre because, well, they came with their what
they brought from Puerto Rico sexual theorigins, yes the woman and the dance
that, yes the other. Andfrom that, if we count more or
less at that moment, I rememberShakira. That way, in the two
thousand five, when he went outwith the torture, or that he already

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put a reggaeton base, because wealready see that we had both options.
Right, up to two thousand six, we could hear the doggy, but
so could the popetón, as theyare calling it. Also out there and
already From that, we could saythat the two thousand six, two thousand
seven, from now on began togive him a curve romantic flames, but
I remember very well that it wasnot as aggressive as it was. No.

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No. No, no, no, I mean, Shakira broke it
out because it was quite a successnext to Alejandro Sans with the torture.
It was a success, if weknow, in reproductions and everything. But
still. When Shakira opened that window, they didn' t touch it exactly.
Those artists didn' t play muchof her. He didn' t
want to blow up the window either, as he looked up, threw my
pull and I went back to myhouse and he did it with Alejandro Sales,

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if he didn' t go witha reggaeton artist to exactly look.
When Shakira began to look more towardsthe reggaeton and to bring reggaeton artists to
his songs, with songs at leastas crazy. Yeah, even though he
' s crazy like a rite meringue, he' s got with the cat,
that' s with the cat.It has its little base of reggaeton
acordes of Mike hips On like withWhi Kai or Jing ufff which was also

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song of the World Cup of Germanytwo thousand six. Yeah, no,
no, no, Germany two thousandsix, Germany not, of course.
No. Please, I don't need rin here. I remember it
was Shakiragat' s Germany that songand it' s obviously reggaetoncito, but
I feel that Walkie Jean walk liffgea whikel Jean On the character already has

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that base within its clearing that hasmade dance. In other words, he
cannot be criticized for groaning the reggaeton, because he is part of the base
and something very hard is that suddenlythey tried to include already and a little
more the artists of the English area. True from the Anglo part, because
after that we can hear a rupwith Dar Yankis fortnight what Temps to Touch

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did. That was two thousand five, about the date. Jake is looking
for the PoTA and, in otherwords, the important thing is that the
genre comes from Puerto Rico, touchescertain parts of the world and everyone is
already looking there. The poppers werethe Americans, who were the biggest,
i e, the people of Jamaica, the people of dance holl all this,

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Uncle Chiche, yeah, there's Mira that of these American rappers
the only one I' ve everseen, well, the only one.
I do not know that there areseveral, but the most representative who has
not turned his life towards the reggaetonis Eminem sn k Emine has not recorded

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with any reggaetonist and I do notthink he is interested. Who knows,
I don' t know, butFittsen did. He did. Snockdock Arrell
and legends ar Kelly, who isnow imprisoned. I' d be happy
to show you my credentials and accompanyme to the cafeteria area Take care of
this good several characters from the Americanindustry. I thought that the dream Messi
ranga and recorded with the Malvin andalso recorded with Sionty Lennox also to version,

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or there is a Lennox pre nshow. But beyond anything, I
think everyone who' s making partof the urban genre is waiting for Eminen.
Who' s gonna be the onewho gets Eminen into a reggaeton.
It will not be with an originalbase, it has to be with a
base, that is to say forme to say emin lied. What happens

(13:03):
is that from being reggaet based thelast song of Valvin teeth well you teeth.
There it is or no Fang andI already pulled it out again already
from cordillo, song known Tooth,feel, I already pull Fang, but
out there, for example, quadracón. There' s one that' s
not very. It' s notNicky Jan' s cell phone with Chans
Makers that you whis For me,Eminem I would see it on a base

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of those and not so much ofambush, not so Reggaetón, not the
richest international. Of course how richhe' ll listen to an emeen full
uy wouldn' t be amazing.I would love to see you there look
rapping on a reggaeton base on aden bow god me that is a kilo,
a cup and already artificial ditelligence.Tenjecito, I like to put it
in and don' t take it, I don' t keep it,
but keep looking retreatant, so provideddoes not send you seen passing Balanda,

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sameto that I go people, themints pa de gans the shovel is covered,
I have it in the moments thatat that moment I don' t
know you that you have the interactiveapparatuses there. I was surprised when the
urban genre was played by Chayan totry chin i e and when I was
on another pop radio, yes alreadyhad to sound to Chalán. Obviously,
you have to sound it when itarrived and with a reggaeton base and I

(14:15):
was saying but how do I explainto my mom, how do I feel
to my mom and explain to herthat her artist of all life is already
singing reggaeton. What or how onefeels to nieces and tells them the one
who sings fifteen springs. Now he' s a reggaetoner. Now sing the

(14:37):
reggaeton. I danced it and itwas time for you to give, yes,
time for val time can be given. It' s all those artists
that touched them. I believe thatthe industry carried them and the evolution of
the industry and also all their workteam, their labels, exactly when seeing
the burst that there was music,because they said my love come that we

(14:58):
have to make reggaeton, we haveto do something similar to fight is working
and much have not hit. Speaking, for example, of successful reggaetons and
mergers. We could say that oneof the most watched videos in the world
regarding YouTube, which is Luis Fonsiyes you can go through a project that
Luis fonds launched and with janke Einvited to Dari Yankee and that was a

(15:20):
world hit one day until everyone gottired of listening to the World Cup and
I still like to listen Despacito fromtime to time the mix sounds slow,
yes, and when it sounds cool, but at the time everyone was already
listening Mom arrived moment where I alreadytold you too much to dance and slowly.
Ok Abria lanera and Luis poncia ponciared cantalón. Or before. If
there' s a song I've gotten over at the time, I

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think Carol' s. I didn' t, no, no, no,
the spacious one in the most importanturban song in the history of reggaeton,
that is, the one that gotthe furthest, because they made versions
even in Jakajaca, okay, themost versions that sees you the ugly one
is that we actually talked about thesuccess of gasoline was the most successful song
when the reggaeton was emerging, butno one made a different version of it

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in any other country where no DariYankie was. You understand what I mean
today, that I give yan thatgot a version with Nory and I don
' t know who you can dariYankee, but slowly it was recorded by
Juanito doggy da already in the lucreall the different versions je languages good morning.

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Yeah, so maybe it' sthe biggest musical success in history,
compared to ps i La or Paganor i ah. Yeah, that was
the first song in history to reacha billion YouTube plays. I' m

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going to do a parenthesis, asyou talked about the week you' ve
seen the social media videos of thisgentleman' s concerts that you pulled out
of cool feet, or Carolgy hasreleased there today. Obviously they' re
going to bring in boot, andobviously I' m going to be full.

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Who knows. Who knows. Obviously, the story that man carries with
him is that he is the firstperson in the world to reach a billion,
but without any credible sensitive reproductions,then who knows. I would say
if you gave me the only goodand talking about the most watched videos,
that is not only the reggaeton,already speaking in general, slowly is exceeded
only from a video any baby Sharkbab H that I am baby Chan that

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you have thirteen thousand one hundred sixtymillion views and slowly, according to the
data that I have here, wouldhave seven thousand, but I am already
seeing the updated figure and it haseight thousand two hundred ninety six million that
you see that it is passito,It is pas Baby Shark is a song
that likes children. That' sreproduce and reproduce and play for dads to
have kids. Oh, don't bother with that Don' t be
silly. Yeah, I think so, I just don' t think it

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should be compared musically. Right,I didn' t think so. Yeah,
yeah, no. And, moreover, that quietness in Spanish is our
language, our race to see abovewhat is after the macarena, is the
most successful song in Spanish history.Easy, yes, macarena turupo, joy
macaria yes. That is, asyou see, from the most watched videos,
the Manstyle gans, which we aretalking about right now, is in
position four. Aw or not withfour, then tell me two thousand four

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hundred ninety- four, first smallbaby shark, first baby shark slowly.
The second a, the third ofU Game The Wis Califas ok Ah,
yes, vega, there' sa tremendous jack song and it' s
in third place. Yeah, andthere' s here, there' s
none in Colombian on that list upto the top ten. More or less

(18:37):
to see let me look at thetop ten here hear talking about it,
already while Pary searches there the urbangenre went so far and crossed so many
borders that until today it is partof the Seventh Art, since they were
talking about cue game fast and furious, when Nomar came out, when Tego
Calderón and everyone came out, likethat Ohaw came to the cinema or that
it was the Brother new megaldemio.Pablo Roga Romeo Santos also comes out in

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one of the editions of fast andfurious j Balvin has already musicalized as two
films of bad Bony and I havealready made several films and more there is
the actoral part. Not because Valvin, as an actor, I haven'
t seen him in any kind offilm or series. Or else, no,
no, no, no, momentis not ponus trecillo war yo to
dancer hemp wy Kendley wo reggaeton morein his exact documentary more with his music

(19:32):
trem of be Coming stor para osole Heart w So the advance of the
reggaeton has been so important that wemade Carlos Vive mess the reggaeton. You
don' t get Carlos with thebike, 3, 000 cars. The
bike was a. I think thebike was one. But before bike is
I to a collator Give you akiss, Give you a leaf kiss,

(19:56):
Please step on the calendar and lookfor the pitches. No, no,
no, I' ll just getthe amiens. Ah, okay, give
you a kiss. I think itwas first time you visited her. Well,
I don' t agree because Iremember the bike in two thousand fifteen.
I also think that the bike isnot first to have a kiss,
to condemn a kiss, I rememberit as of the two thousand eighteen.
I' m not gonna fight it. Well, about the top ten.
No. There' s no Colombian. Oh, no, no, no,

(20:17):
no, no, no, no, there' s still Justin Bieber
' s baby, still Lady Gaga' s bad Romans. So shaken by
Don Omar. There' s Evolutionof Dance from uts a like play.
Well, there are no Colombians.No, but within the ranking is if
there is reggaeton, if there isurban genre, no sea with dance acuduro
another song that we also opened thedrawer of the stockings. And there it

(20:37):
was so shaking. Wow, that' s so strong, that' s
rocking the Rin Bar, that's so awesome. Not to see,
because the data really knew it andit is so. I give it to
Paris from b Baby. In thetwo thousand and seventeen the bicycle was opened
and in the two thousand and eighteen, of course, a kiss. I
thought it had been before to steala kiss because I feel it has been
a stronger song of Sebastian yatra beforeshooting already internationally, because before giving you

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a kiss I didn' t havea successful song already behind chan I obviously
don' t know, but inColombia, ah what else I had.
It' s just that he hasn' t been the most successful any more.
In Colombia he has three. Myheart. It was a very successful
song in Medellín. Of course Idon' t know her. Same.
Yes, the doctor did, returninga year to the bike. Two thousand
disis ah Don Jay got that alreadyah they' re not even looking for

(21:21):
the data on Iria' s cellphone. Not like that, so bike
two thousand seventeen says here for twoJP one. Hahahahahahaja docked. Give me
the ring? Don' t putthe ring on me. But seriously,
at least Ta wasn' t requeetonisteither and no or no. Yatra started
with pop, but already after hehas been very versatile in all his music.
Then he pulls out a pop album, pulls out an urban album,

(21:44):
but already because of my perspective ofwhat I know, Yatra has been very
versatile from the little one he looksat. I think he already threw himself
into the reggaeton when he left Rented, because he just worked with Rented and
with ronney Watts, who was theproducer of Rented. Already and rented regularly
not that their gender was not 100% reggaeton. If you listen to rent,
I' m not a hundred percentreggaeton and it doesn' t have

(22:06):
you on the beach. And that' s if and in that same wave
he got in already I remember thatin the two thousand fifteen he went to
Cali and I interviewed him on astation and the man was promoting as his
album, that he had worked withRoney Watts and that he had worked with
Rented and they were. But beforeI' m already tran before I'
m famous. Not ok because hewas yatra, but he was not the
famous one another day now, butit was Sebastian already three boy who sold
the chocolate. Well speaking of anotherof the artists who have entered the urban

(22:29):
genre, Tallia, we can sayof Talia Pinus, but be careful that
I do not tie myself with anyone. I remember because it was in two
thousand and six who came with ajoint with Romeo Santos, which was no,
no, not a bachatica. Notthere not since before she got into
the urban industry. Before I didn' t do so much that he recorded

(22:51):
a song with Man called fa Joeor fa Joe, as Limbach himself wanted
to say. She' s gota song with the b a ok ah
yeah, ck it' s okay. It can' t really be a
song. No. We remembered her. For the two migrants there was an
exact yes, but for the novicesof the 2, 000 ok but I
don' t remember it as asuccess that song. I do, I
do. I know it as success, because I remember that at that time
we had the radio, but thosewho had television we played playivy you remember

(23:15):
PLAYTSC. Of course, you calledthe code to order the song and on
play TV. Yes, and inblandv every time I was one of the
videos that most showed, like videosof Cristina Aguilera, who was also very
strong on play TV at that time, more Americans than Latino. We Latinos
didn' t see them much.The truth is that we have talked about
it repeatedly now in the different broadcastsof this podcast, reggaeton and Latin music.
Yes, because if we' regoing to talk in parentheses, the

(23:38):
Mexican regional is very much the urbangenre at this time the music industry.
I think he has eyes on Latinosthe world is, yes, yes,
yes, in Latinos, because hesees that it is mature, he does
not need to record with maluma inhis life, but he already needed to
get into the Latin market, becausethe Latin market is the strongest market in
the world. But you remember thatsong suddenly captivated you. Not which Megine

(24:07):
Don' t remind me of Jenny, wrong no, terrible wi no,
I don' t give up ohno, no, like me, being
a weasy maluma spent a futuring asimportant as it is a tritur in with
Madonna to come out with a songthat is one. No one knows it
other than love of my life.Cool, well, I' ve taken
it there. But ok Hawaii gotWiekend into the king' s ear from

(24:29):
Wikin. It' s not that, too, Your Majesty. No,
I mean, if we talk aboutwiekend music, it can' t be
needed, not this other no seano more than I want. It seems
to me yes, but it isalso a reggaeton not missing is to get
into the reggaeton to or that ithas not made reggaeton true, no,
no, no, it will notbe bad. No. Someone who suddenly

(24:53):
tried to make a merger and getinto the genre was reved ah with slow
yes, slow another unattainable too.It' s not true It was just
like this. I remember came that' s when Unitons reversed then they took
advantage, when they threw them.Benjamin Got said Monday and well let'
s bring RBD. Let' stake advantage of the boom and all that

(25:15):
platelet lock as it is since themost but the song didn' t happen
either, no, but my nopididn' t sing it. I did
it to myself Then our obvious Ienjoyed it. It' s just that
at the time I was a fanof the other way around, I was
part of a fan club and Iwas gonna feel like I didn' t
have barefoot. The Medellin to meetwith the whole there, I didn'
t arrive then, or be commerciallyslow. Nothing happened, nothing, absolutely
nothing. But they did play,they smeared themselves with reggaeton. I liked

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the Benjamings. What' s more, I know the song because I heard
the whole album and I too alreadyhad not had Rebedé' s it was
worth accepting your generation. That endbackwards or. But how is one going
to say that if one puts cdthe first song of Red, rumble please
mach a bura. But that's why he didn' t listen to

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the Benjamins' album, which shouldhave been heard from Revédé' s album.
I was starting the last one becausethe RV of the last song of
the album imagine that if they hadput it on the first album it would
have been different, already people getout listening to how it doesn' t
drink songs go, I won't compare the twenty- two there was
no comparison. I' ve beento songs like burial night. I remember
so much that I was part ofthe Benjamin J. Trégate, Give yourself

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to Wisne and where Gustán many songs. You believed. I know it'
s not forgiveness before you get upset. He knows who also got into the
urban genre. If there' sa song that has farruco that I think
it is, I don' tknow if it' s José Feliciano to
his daughter. I like my daughter, I like her life, I like
this song is from v That songis brute. I like the song is

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very good, delicious, not allin many niches, but it was very
masculine, very underground to how oldand they love it bo well, not
for that, but speaking of Medellín, it was success but so, successful,
successful. It was the success perhapsfor other types of stations where his
music gives him to put felician cheowith farruco. But in urban stations,

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I like your old lady. Ithink I' m a success. I
sing it because I love the songand one Sunday morning I would put it,
being that the mood of Sunday morning, type nine eight in the morning,
is very quiet. I want more, if you hear more than ever.
Remember also that a band as traditionalin the world of Latin music as

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Mana, for they didn' tbring out new songs, but as they
did turn from piece to head Andthat head a song that was an anthem
for us, also in this country. No. And for you novel song
and everything doesn' t. No. I think when the head piece novel
came out, I had you didn' t know how to read four or
three years I didn' t paymuch attention to it. No, no,

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we didn' t lend him asit wasn' t football, no,
yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, I presented
him a story and called him nopiece to head. Yeah, I remember
everything right. Without getting to Bogotáand seeing all the ensembles in Bogotá believe
here they recorded pusca dad, theyare all the same. Oh, okay,
I didn' t know. Well, there' s a lot of
artists who' ve been through thereggaeton. What we know at that time
is that the industry is so strong, it is so moved, it generates

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so much money that we have understoodthat one cannot fight the enemy. No,
no, you don' t havethe enemy to join you. And
all the artists understood. Yes andrelatively they' re all making money.
What' s going to happen tomorrow? We don' t know. We
know that at that time there isa very close genre as well as the
human genre, which is the genreof Mexican regional music, so also that
it is very close, where alsomany reggaeton artists are playing and giving themselves

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the brushstrokes in this genre, alsobecause, obviously, it is also generating
a lot of uses. I feelthat the genre of Mexican music is a
genre that is doing very well.I don' t see it as big
as the reggaeton, true of solong- lasting and so much that everyone
can do it. You understand whattoday, at a reggaeton base, everyone
can record and huff, think aboutany kind of rhythm and attach it to

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the reggaeton. In Mexican regional music. I don' t think they can
attach a sound of vallenato, rightgay. You understand me completely. Not
then do I believe that reggaeton isadaptable to any genre of Mexican regional music.
Not then. Such a vej thatis the obstacle that the Mexican region
has to become such a look andimportant like the reggaeton, that they go

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a good way like this, butthat they get there, I see it
complicated and if they shut my mouth, because we see ourselves in trentais before
saying goodbye to this new chapter inthe beat, to where you think the
music is going to arrive, thereggaeton, that is to say as we

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speak Ahorita, we came from beingwith the Anglo pop very glued. Now
the urban genre the region will bereturning genres like rock to be very close.
I don' t think it's been growing in the generation without
rock. It is exactly clear thatit is surprising to see bare young caton
Ce fifteen, sixteen years old meetingartists like obli Oanar and You who know
about them, know about their music. But obviously, the mass isn'

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t that big and it' seasier for you to meet an Anglo artist
to spend time with him, alocal artist you understand me then. I
do, I think the peeled oneslike you are growing up with a more
open movie, a more relaxed moviementally, and I feel like the reggaeton
gives them all that they want,plus they' re easy to consume the
lyrics. Then people learn very easilythat there is the tik to everything that
Tikto reggaeton total scotish, that hita Mexican regional bullet, maybe so it
is in tendency. But ninety-eight percent of tik Tok' s trends

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are reggaeton. I think everyone needsto adapt to that. As life progresses,
we are moving forward and we aregoing to realize that it will also
happen with the music that at somepoint we will see adel singing on a
track of regal or to and topylon he already got bons with Jay Balbin

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and my people Remix, although Ido not know if it is 100%
reggaeton, because it is not 100percent reggaeton, But that is why I
say that those international and above allAnglo artists do not put them as the
bases of the urban genre, butI put them more electronic, more international.
With what we have seen, gentlemen, or one more chapter in beat,
talking about reggaeton, talking about theurban genre, talking a little bit

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with you. We know perfectly wellthat you also have a completely different version
and obviously there are microphones and everythingopen so that you can comment and participate
in the bit as it has alwaysbeen. Now to Andrés Parry Jape,
the resident and who speaks to youVictor pine, accompanying you all. We
' ll be listening to each otherin the next here, at the Chau

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