June 18, 2024 • 52 mins
Sixto Porras entrega consejos muy específicos e importantes sobre cómo poder amar y acercar el corazón de aquellos seres queridos que se han alejado de la familia y que están pasando una etapa muy dificil en sus vidas. Este podcast traera sanidad a la culpabilidad y esperanza sobre lo que puedes hacer para traer a ese pródigo devuelta a tu familia.
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Welcome to Podcast and Frank Lopez.Thank you once again for being with us,
for sharing our content. And todaywe have a very special guest,
someone I admire at a price,I listen to him, I learn,
I consider him one of the mainvoices in Latin America and worldwide on the
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issue of family. So let's welcome Pastor Sixth ass of focus to
the family. Welcome, Tor Thankyou very much. What an honor to
be with you, Pastor, ourhonors. Thank you for being with us.
I have so many questions to ask. Let' s get started,
let' s get started. Iwant us to focus on talking about what
a prodigal son is called. Verywell I heard one of your extraordinary preachings,
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always preaching in which you are teachingand setting an example, very clear
of what a prodigal is. Let' s start there that' s a
prodigal. A prodigal is someone whodoesn' t value history, stops valuing
security, who gives home. Hedespises parents, humiliates parents. In fact,
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in the parable of the prodigal sonis to give me the share of
the inheritance that corresponds to me,that is, it does not correspond to
you. Until I die, youare not demeaning the father, but,
at the same time, a prodigalis someone, as the scripture itself says,
is someone who is in a stateof unconsciousness, that is, does
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not value, does not appreciate.Why it is important to clearly define who
is a prodigal, because I treatthe person as I define him. The
other definition could be to see himas a rebel. The problem with seeing
him as a common rebel is thatI treat him as a rebel and that
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' s going to cause distance,he' s going to recriminate, he
' s going to distance us.For example, a young woman, after
a lecture talks to me and tellsme my dad ran me out of my
house when I was a 16-year- old teenager. She got pregnant.
He felt that I betrayed Christian valuesand I did. He didn'
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t know me as a daughter.I have no contact with my dad.
My mom' s the one lookingfor me, she' s backing me.
I' ve gone ahead and nowI wonder if my dad would like
to meet his granddaughter, what doI do? But she' s a
prodigal. She' s a goodpoint in this case. She is a
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prodigal because she departs from God.But the prodigal is the father, because
there are two types of prodigals.There' s the asset that' s
going away from home. I'm going away from home, where you
don' t control me, whereyou don' t tell me what time
to get there, don' ttell me who I' m going with.
And the second prodigal is the oneleft at home, which is full
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of religiosity, the one who isnot sensitive, the one who does not
forgive, the one who does notidentify with his brother, for example,
the older brother was a prodigal whyhe stays at home. I' ve
never disobeyed you, Dad. I' ve always worked with you. You
' ve never given me a kidto enjoy. And there' s your
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son. Now he' s back, after you' ve wasted all your
inheritance, and you' re partyingwith him. The father stops and tells
him you' re my son andall mine is yours. This means that
in the Church I can become aprodigal, being responsible, being religious,
complying with the rules, because whenI am prodigal, when my heart is
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hardened and I am insensitive to pain, there I am prodigal, then we
have two prodigals and it is importantto understand it. Going back to this
story, I recommended this girl callyour mom and tell her to ask your
dad if he' d like tomeet the granddaughter. When she tells me
the story, it was awesome,he tells me he didn' t say
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yes or no. He just noddedpride doesn' t say on Sunday that
we arrived as I taught my daughtersea to her grandfather. When the door
opens, the granddaughter runs to thegranny and yells at him granny, granny,
granny, even though he had neverseen what that man did He shed
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himself in tears, that is,the house must be a place of refuge
that I want to reach. Thehouse must be a place of celebration where
I remember that there was so muchjoy and I here suffer hunger. He
said the prodigal went away, Isuffer hunger. I can' t even
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eat the pigs' food. However, it says when I remember my home,
I remember my home. He saideven the simplest servant has better food
than me. It says there thatthe prodigal returns to himself. He'
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s thoughtful, he comes to himself. That means that each of us has
to have his own experience of encounterwith God. And this subject comes to
me a lot because I was prodigalpastor and because my children can prodigal.
I mean, they were distracted.I saw them moving away little by little,
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but I remember my mom how shehad love ropes to bring us back.
You were a prodigal. Yes,I was born in the Church and
the influence of my friends made mego away from the Church, separate myself
from God' s values. Butit' s funny here, Pastor.
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There is no worse Christian. Thereis nothing worse than a separated Christian or
to sin quietly. I couldn't sin quietly because I was already reading
a spiritual seed planted in me thatwouldn' t let me go any further
and imagined your mother' s prayer. She was the one who made it,
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too, because Mom was waiting forus until the last one arrived.
She was praying for us. Shestayed, taking us to the Church.
No, but I don' twant to go it doesn' t matter.
As they went under this house wewent to the Church on Sundays.
That perseverance was crucial. He wouldgather us to pray, but why it
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doesn' t matter. Even ifthey don' t want to. We
' re going to work over time. When you, as a prodigal,
wake up, value that insistence,you value that perseverance and you say wow,
without realizing it. She was formingwalls of protection around me, because
some of my friends ended up drinking. I mean, that would have been
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my destiny for others in a troubledworld, but my mom and dad were
still taking us to church. Theykept marking the way and I remember,
when I became Pastor, it wason God Street talking to me on the
street coming from a dance in theearly morning. In the street I hear
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his voice as Jacob in the dream. God stood on the stairs and spoke
to him and called him. Iam the God of your grandfather Abraham and
your father isaac I went to theedge of my bed, knelt down and
gave my heart to Christ I neverforget. That night my brothers cried,
the three of us wept, thetwo of us slept together in the same
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room and the glory of God fell. And I remember my mom coming in
and saying why we prayed, andmy brother told Mom, Sixtus is turning.
But my mom insisted never to seeus turn away from God. But
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my mom never stopped seeing the futureGod had with us. And that was
his hope. Even on one occasionI challenge her and tell Mom how it
is that you have peace and wego wrong. I don' t know,
it was like a restlessness of thoserebellious nights. No, she looks
at me, points at me andtells me why I have peace, because
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I know the end of the story. One day, one to one of
you will return is your mother waspraying according to the future aha that God
had promised her exacting her children.That' s faith. That is faith
and this is the way I mustdo it. But I have to think
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about whether my home is a shelteror a place I want to leave.
For example, a shepherd' sdaughter once looked for me and broke crying.
My dad kicked me out of thehouse, forbade my sisters, my
mom to talk to me and takecare of me I say why,'
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Cause my non- girlfriend' shyssa, a young man who is from
the church, is from another church, I say he is a Christian,
says yes, that' s calledreligiosity, and religiosity makes prodigals. Religiosity
drives our children out, because thenlaws are more important than love, when
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relationship than relationship. When there areunrelated laws, there is rebellion and she
tells me my mom is secretly lookingfor me, but it hurts me that
my dad is away from me.Well, the question that arises is that
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' s a parent' s rightattitude. No. No. For example,
Judas was going to betray Jesus.Jesus knew that he was going to
betray him and loved him, hisfriend made him treasurer of the group,
but Jesus was going to betray himknew that he was going to betray him
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the night that Jesus, Judas,kissed Jesus with the treacherous kiss. Jesus
tells him what you have with mefriend, calls him friend. For me,
that is what Judas breaks, becauseJudas had seen miracles, had seen
Jesus walk on the water, hadseen the multiplication of loaves and fishes,
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had seen leper heal paralyzed, hadseen Lazarus or had risen and had not
seen Jesus. I had not recognizedJesus as good. He never recognized him.
Okay. That can happen. Theson may be home, but I
need a personal meeting. The questionis how I should love my prodigal,
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and that' s what I mustbe clear about. Religiosity produces prodigals?
Legalism produces prodigals? Humiliation produces prodigals? Does disparaging my children produce prodigals?
Does comparing my children produce prodigal?It' s just that you have a
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favorite and it' s easy tohave a favorite child. What more prodin
produces What are the most common mistakesthat we, Hispanics, Latin Americans,
cultures that you have, that arepart of our culture, our belief,
our religiosity, that what it doesis produce prodigal children. First of all,
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for me, we want to belike a chicken that covers chicks and
we don' t allow our kidsto grow up. That' s very
good. Then, for example,one day I' m talking about this,
a doctor in her 28s talks tome and tells me, but then
I' m not prodigal. Isay explain that I left my house because
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I grew up, I became adoctor. I keep going to church,
but my mom and dad wanted tocontrol what time I get there and I
want to what I go to andyou tell me you can' t come
so late, I say mom,I have a guard at the hospital,
I mean, you can' ttell me I can' t come late.
It' s my job, Ihave a guard at the hospital.
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I realized that my parents didn't evolve to understand that I grew up.
She' s not a prodigy overprotection. It is an overprotection that passes
the limits of age. I mean, I can do that with my little
boy. Where are you going,where do I say? Where are you
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going? What time you arrive andthe discipline of the home. But if
my son grew up, that's not a prodigal. That is a
child who grew up and is makinghis own decisions and is normal in life.
It' s normal. That canproduce prodigals. Look how interesting,
why, because that' s whatreligious people do. Rules are imposed which
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they themselves do not comply with.Then. Secondly, what produces prodigals.
Hypocrisy, the fact that I weara nice suit, on Sunday, the
fact that I greet the whole worldwith glory to God and in the house
I cry insult humble, I saybad words, we fight to the point
of beating ourselves. That produces prodigal, many, many prodigals. That produces
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rebellion, rebellion because there is adouble discourse. That' s religiosity,
not for example, a mom approachesone of my colleagues who shares this subject
and told her there' s myeighteen- year- old daughter. She
doesn' t want to come onSaturdays to the young ah really and look
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at the girl and tell her butyou' re heard. Sundays in church.
They say no. I never miss. There' s no shortage of
church Sundays. Ma' am toldyou my colleague see how good she has
and not how bad she has.If you skip the bad, emphasize the
bad. If you see the good, you will strengthen in it how good
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you have. That produces prodigals thatI begin to see the bad and rather
than stop seeing the plans that Godhas with my children. For example,
I had a shepherd as a childand my shepherd would pray on Wednesdays at
the prayer meeting. Sometimes he calledme. And now I was a boy,
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seven or eight years old and Godwas moving in a special way.
Then he started taking me to hispreaching tours and my mom sent me and
I went and listened to him andhe started calling me my little shepherd.
I used to say it sounded nicewhen I was a kid, but when
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I got to my teens and left, he looked at me and hugged me
and told me where my little shepherdis and I said to myself he'
s crazy. I don' tgo to church anymore. No, he
wasn' t seeing the present circumstance. He was seeing the future. And
as he saw it, so itis. It' s a good attitude
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to keep your eye on the end, as my mom helps build bridges for
me to come back if you humiliateme, if you reject me, if
you scold me, you continually imposerules on me that I don' t
want to comply with. You're throwing me out today. For example,
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I still remember my son Stephen,when he began to hear music from
the world. It was like 2, 000 songs on his device and he
put the songs on and it wasa struggle with how to do it.
I was telling him to build youup, help, Dad, he'
s distracted. Oh, Dad.He' s distracted. And I said
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this shouldn' t be cause oflitigation between us. God will come to
reveal himself to his life. Ican' t change my children or my
spouse. I can love my childrenand my spouse. I proclaim and it
is my duty to do that youchange it from God exactly and one day
when my children wake up. Myson Stephen comes to the Lord and God
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begins to deal with him. Iwas, like, 19 years old.
He tells me Mira, what I' m going to do, Dad what
you' re going to do.I' m going to erase all the
songs that aren' t Christian frommy device on a button one and their
life radically changed. But who hasn' t changed, God, not me.
It' s up to me tolove and build bridges. It'
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s a mistake for a father ora mother to take a child out of
the home. This is a question, pastor who doesn' t ask them
many times. For example, theseparents arrived after six months of having no
contact with their daughter. She pleadsto Lesbiana wants to live with her lover.
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They are Christians, leaders of theChurch. Says Mira, they tell
her you' re breaking the rulesof this house. We don' t
agree. Yo, Dad said hegot angry and told him you' re
not my daughter anymore. Please,if you want to live with that woman,
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leave this house. The father losescontact and, as always, the
mother keeps the contact. He doesn' t listen to you They talk.
The father is distressed with the monthswhen he has no contact with his daughter
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and that' s where the approachto the family comes in for help.
What do I do? We toldyou look love is unconditional. I can
' t condition myself to love mydaughter because she behaves the way I want
her to. I have to loveeven when the job is done. Find
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her and love her, just loveher. Find her and love her.
The rules of the house are rulesthat must respect the rules of the house.
I can' t. The factthat I love you does not mean
that I open my door, thatin my house any scene occurs, not
the rules of respect for healthy livingat home are respected. But you'
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re my daughter and nothing is goingto stop me from loving you. It
was like taking a big burden fromthis father. So look for her and
love her. The fact that youlove her does not mean that you consent
to sin or that you are infavor of what she is doing. You
can reflect. You can argue.Second example, this mom talks to me
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with a very religious spirit and toldme my son has fallen in love with
a girl who is not Christian,she is Mormon. I said no.
He insists she' s a goodgirl. I tell her what it'
s like to be a good boyis worth the Church and everything or that
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and I' ve told her no, that she' s not related to
her. I don' t wanther to come to the house. And
we' ve had a lot offighting and I' ve told him that
I don' t approve, Idon' t bless that relationship. It
looks like fifty percent is right,fifty bad than what I mean. What
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' s the right part, Imean, he' s a kid who
' s grown up, he's a kid who' s making his
own decisions. What should I do, I must warn danger, I must
instruct, I must prove the rightway. But I have to call him
and tell him you' re myson and I love you what I see
is that you' ve grown up. I' m telling you, we
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' re gonna change the strategy.Why don' t you change the strategy
and, instead of rejecting this younggirl, just love her tell your son.
If you choose her as your wifeor as your girlfriend, my mission
will be to love her. Iwant to tell you I disagree. I
want to tell you that if yougo this way, you' re going
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to have trouble creating your children.You' re gonna have a problem because
their values are different. Of courseyou have to warn the way and you
have to warn the problems by lookinghim in the eye tell him I want
to tell you that no matter whatdecision you love I' m going to
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love you, I' m goingto make your mother and we' re
going to love this girl. Thenshe did what I told her. He
invited the girl to eat at thehouse. He apologized, he said I
wanted to apologize for rejecting you.If my son chooses you as his girlfriend,
my honor is to love you.Then she said. I began to
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love her and one Sunday we invitedher to the Church. The girl becomes
and begins to walk for Cristol andthe girl becomes the pibot that drives the
son to do the right thing.That' s the right attitude. You
' re telling us that even ifwe don' t agree, we have
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to keep loving. Okay, let' s go to the parable. The
parabola says the youngest son told thefather to give me part of the inheritance
that belongs to me. Dad callsboth of you. Deal the inheritance.
I imagine it, embrace it,bless it and dialogue is as follows.
My son has grown up. Myson is now making his own decisions and
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it' s up to me torespect him. That' s what needs
to be done. I can't treat a young man like a child?
A teenager like a child? Imust treat a teenager as a teenager
and a young man as a youngman, although the decisions I am making
go against God and go against hisown good. This is a very profound
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subject, more gift because when Iam a child, I am responsible.
When he' s young, Ihave to bless him. I' m
going to talk about what the parents' mission means. Parents' mission is
patient. God gives us a childwho is totally dependent and we will guide
him as he grows to absolute independence. Now I return the question to you
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At what age my son attains independenceat the age of twenty- one.
Well, it can be twenty-one, at eighteen, at sixteen eighteen.
I say eighteen, because at eighteenyour daughter can go to a university
across the country. So what Imean is we have seventeen years to make
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my son know how to behave ina world where he administers 100 percent of
his freedom. I mean, 18- year- old soy is an adult.
Okay, as long as I liveunder the roof of the house,
there are rules that are met andI must guide him. I never finish
raising. For example, one ofthe most beautiful scenes in the Bible is
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when Jesus, at about thirty yearsof age, is baptized. It'
s like the day your first dayof work goes, you' re going
to get induction. That' sright, and the father comes in,
and he screams at his throat.This is my beloved son, in whom
I am complacent. That' stelling us the father' s love for
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the son is never ending this mission. Pastor, I never end up influencing
and guiding that this what I am, what is changing is the way I
relate. For example, I stillremember when one of my children' s
claims was Dad. You' rea good dad, but you never take
us to the stadium. They lovedfootball. They want to go to the
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stadium, so let' s goand go to the stadium. My son
had one twelve and the others almostfifteen, and I wanted to prove what
it meant to be a father ofone of two and one of almost fifteen.
We' re gonna cross the streetand reach out to the 12-
year- old, shake my hand. I reach out to the fifteen-
year- old, he lets mego He says no, Dad. I
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cluso sees the difference they' reeducating us. I' ll explain what
my mistake would be. We're not going across the street Give me
your hand. That' s amistake because my son is 15. I
explain to myself are fathers and mothershave to adjust to their way of loving.
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Yes, I remember it at theage of the children. They have
to because I am transferring authority,responsibility and developing skills in them. I
have to move authority, freedom andresponsibility. Then my mission as a father
is to move him as Chrisse firstfeeds him, then teaches him how to
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eat. I saw him first.Now she taught him how to dress.
First it helps you do the homework. Now she does it for themselves.
If I keep doing the sign andmy son is twelve years old, we
will all know that I made theposter or that he is six, but
it is very difficult for a dadand a mom when, for example,
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the case that these are cases ofreal life, of course the young man
falls in love with a girl whois not Christian, who is not Christian
and belongs to a sect yes Mormon. Then you said. We have to
stop knowing our position always advising it, accompanying it and the fact that we
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do not agree does not cancel thatwe must continue to love it exactly.
These are the things that the previousPope did less than he did was to
stop loving her. He kicked himout, I mean, I take your
love to punish you for mistake.Love never takes it away anymore. God
never stopped loving us. Yes,when Adam and Eve sin, God appears
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in the garden and does two thingsone looks for them, calls them and
two saw them. That' sthe most beautiful thing and he designs a
redemption plan. There are consequences ofyour decisions. I can' t help
it You' re deciding, butI want to tell you that I came
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down to love you and designed aredemption plan. That' s what'
s important. But I don't see, I don' t see
him in the son' s parable, I prodigal to show the love of
father. He shuts the door forus. It doesn' t tell him
if you walk out that door.I don' t know you. He
doesn' t say that he doesn' t hug him, bless him.
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And the door was open. It' s open. He didn' t
stop loving him. I don't stop loving him. He didn'
t agree. He didn' tagree if he left and he didn'
t agree to give him his inheritance. No, but the truth is.
But he disagreed and left the door. Did you see and leave the door
open? And that open door involvesthree things. One forgives you, I
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know that one day you could comevery badly beaten, very hurt with nothing
and I would be ready to hugyou. Number one I forgive you,
number two continued to pray, cryingfor the reunion. And number three.
This question is often asked to me. I have to find my prodigal.
Yes, because remember that the parableof the prodigal son comes It is a
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trilogy of the three parables, thelost coin and the lost sheep. What
he does with the coin and thesheep looks for them until they find them.
In the parable of the prodigal sonthere are other elements, there is
forgiveness, there is cry and thereis an open door. Then Jesus came
to look for his lost children,his younger brothers who had lost their father.
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He comes to design a plan ofredemption and comes to look for each
one of us. Of course Ihave to build bridges. The prodigal'
s question is he' ll stilllove me Despite my mistake, he'
ll be proud of me. Hereturns with a slave mentality. He returns
servant clear, I want to bea return as a son and the father
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gives him the level. The fatherimmediately corrected him aha and gave him the
level of children. If he honoredhim, dressed him, gave him back
the family ring, no one elsewore it. Only in the family does
he wear shoes that mean freedom,that is, you can be listening to
yourself and at the same time,he introduces him to the house with the
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honor of children and makes a greatfaithful and throws a great party. He
doesn' t claim anything, absolutelynothing. Ok sito, I want to
ask you several questions. Today weare seeing that there is a culture that
has fallen into a high level ofdarkness. We are, our children are
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facing an indoctrination in schools, ontelevision to one of the children' s
films to accept a behavior that isthe Bible. The word of our God
says that such behavior is sin andhas horrible consequences. We are talking about
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the indoctrination we see in favor ofhomosexualism, what consequences it has in doctrine
number one. It is true thatthis can affect the development of the sexual
identity of that child when it growsnumber one. I want to be sure,
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number two. What must be adad who confronts a young man who
comes as you call him, youtell the prodigal son that you were gone,
you don' t call him.Rebel is not in a state of
unconsciousness ok alone. That doctrine canestablish a generation of a state of unconsciousness
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and that must be the attitude ofa father and a mother to such a
case. All right. First ofall, I' m going to talk
preventively. No cell phones to yourchildren, no tablets to your children.
It' s very important to startthat way Don' t put it in.
In a world that' s goingto teach him, what' s
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going to hurt him, who's going to hurt him. Today you
have to be brave and I knowwhy you give tablet and cell phone to
your children to justify their addiction andhave the time for you to navigate as
many hours as you want. Let' s start with us. We have
to control ourselves. Then let usgive ourselves the opportunity to educate our children.
Being present in their lives, letus teach them to read, to
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seek God, to serve others,to have compassion, to develop their abilities,
to project them into the future.Project it into the future. Let
us not educate our children as ifthey were calves on their way to the
slaughter. That' s not true. You and I have the honor and
privilege to lead our children to theright destiny. As Psalm one hundred and
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twenty- seven says, children arelike arrows in the hands of the mighty.
That' s right, they havea number one, number two destination.
He insists on planting values and principlesin the hearts of his children.
Number three. Train them to leadtheir generation, to have convictions, to
have strong convictions. Number four.Find an environment where your children can grow
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up in such a way that theyare protected. You can tell me school
and school are indoctrinating my children getthem out of school and school and put
them in school and look for asafe environment for their children. Our children
do not have to be in aharmful environment that is making their lives sick.
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Then one in that one has tobe radical. That' s why
I' m advocating pastor, thatchurches re- create high schools, universities
to give choice to a culture thattrains in a different way. Let us
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assume that my son is already twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, he
has come in this process of sadindoctrination, which has hurt his heart and
is confused. Research the subject,Go focus on the family, com find
all the literature. When my sontells me he' s confused, what
should I interpret. I must learnto respond wisely to that question my son
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is asking me. I want toask you a question because on the side
of indoctrination, I consider it ahigh level of diabolical manifestation. It'
s diabolical. That indoctrination confuses youngpeople in their sexual identity. Yes or
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no. Young people growing up haveno confusion about their sexual identity. He
has a confusion in the concepts theybegin to handle. It' s not
the man is the man and thewoman is the woman. Only that we,
as we go, growing up,living experiences, for example, there
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has been an abuse, there hasbeen an abandonment. It' s very
common. This is going to fuelconfusion in interpreting my sexuality. If I
grow up in an environment where everyonesays that they all do it, that
it is valid, that it isnormal, that this is what they are
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all doing, that is indoctrination,an indoctrination, is an installation of a
system of thought that I come toaccept as valid, as a truth,
as a truth, although it isa lie, Although internally I know that
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it is wrong, that is,I know that there is something that is
not right. This means that ourchildren no matter how indoctrinated they may be.
They have no confusion. What youhave is a moment of doubt over
everything you are living and a tolerance. Now, that' s what I
have to do I have to stepup teaching my children and intentionally do a
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teaching of what it' s liketo be a man and what it'
s like to be a woman.To heal the heart if at any time
it has been hurt to be ableto restore relationships and are broken. For
example, many of our children goout looking for a father in a homosexual
relationship. It is the absence ofa father the abandonment and abandonment then I
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am somatizing, expressing in a waya feeling of abandonment. Then I must
be present in my children' slives. I must heal the heart of
my children and accompany them as theygrow up. We' re going to
come to the essence of the questionis an adult over twenty and a day.
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Looks like he says I fell inlove with someone of the same sex.
What should I do to love him. I urge you to be firm
in the convictions that I have.This is what we believe, this is
what the Bible says, but Iwill love you. Let' s go
to the scene of Jesus. Thesinful woman enters the house of the Pharisee
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and asks permission from Jesus and canapproach. The sinful woman approaches such a
point that you kiss at the feetand weep at the feet of Jesus.
He sheds his tears at Jesus'feet. The Pharisee says if he knew
who kissed his feet. He won' t let you, because of course
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I know who kisses my feet.Says Jesus God. He' s God.
If only you knew that I cameto seek out those who were lost,
those who are wrong, those whohave a wounded heart. I'
m here to find the one who' s lost. Maybe he' s
the father. The father comes,he has to look for the one who
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is wounded, the one who ishurt. Doesn' t mean the fact
that I' m with my songoes out with my son. Love my
son that I tolerate what is wrongor that I or that I endorse what
is wrong. It doesn' tmean that. It doesn' t mean
that in any way. My sonknows I' m against him. Let
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' s see, this is anotherreal case. The son turned away,
he had gone with the lover,the dad and they fight. The son
goes away, he' s alreadyan adult. One day he comes into
town and says Dad, I'm in town. I wanted to see
if we could have clear dinner mylove where he' s suspected in a
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hotel. Don' t come tothe house, but Dad, you know
it doesn' t matter to myson. Come to the house. He
said this son when I arrived atthe house, my room, just as
I had left it at dinner,everything had changed. They didn' t
humiliate me, they didn' tcriticize me, they didn' t embarrass
me. They just loved me.When I went to bed, my dad
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knocked on the door. I can, yeah, Dad came into the room
and gave me back like I wasa kid. He knelt on the edge
of my bed, settled my hair, put the blanket on me. He
told me I can pray for you, of course Dad, and he prayed
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as he always prayed. He saidthis son. Then I realized that nothing
had changed in my dad' sheart and that was the door for me
to go back to Godhead and explainto me what happened to the lover.
That is the decision that God hasto make. I' m going to
another case. It just illustrates it. It stopped me asking a question what
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happens if the son wants to bringthe lover to the log house Those are
different rules, those are different situations. What should that dad' s position
and that mom' s? Youknow that' s not allowed here.
These are the rules of the house. I can love you and I want
to encourage you to pray is yourlife, but we can' t give
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an example to your younger brothers aboutthis that isn' t right. I
mean, I have to be firmin my convictions, but my convictions can
never overcome the love that I havefor me or that is the truth of
God. The order of God mustbe given. Cancel the master, not
a dad, not a mom.I don' t use this example.
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This girl growing up in church,she' s called Melisa, she'
s a real man. Lives anabuse on the part of a dad'
s worker. She was recent.She is offended with the church because she
was a person who goes to church. Wow. She walks away from lesbianism.
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She, when she' s overthe age of majority, goes away
with her lover. She takes ona male role, dresses like a man
being away. The lover tells herthat she wants to go to the Church
and when I hear the testimony Iam smooth. It strikes me because I
say God uses anything to bring usaround and then Melisa says yes, I
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know in English to the church.I went as a child and they go
to church. He says we weresitting behind an old man' s marriage.
They sat at par and every Sundaythey invited us to eat and always
loved us, hugged us. I, Melisa, tell her that she lived
in another city one day, saysMelisa, being on the edge of the
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bed, she starts crying and cryingand crying conviction of sin. I'
m sick. It says there Iunderstood that I was wrong. I must
return to God. I' llexplain what happened to him. The exact
prodigal came back, came to himself. The first thing Melisa does is go
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and look for that old couple.And the first thing he says is I
want to tell you that God hasspoken to my heart and tell you that
I am not a man and theelders call him daughter from day one.
We know that you are not hisname and she is aware of what the
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love of these elders is. Whatmelted his heart was what God used and
the prayer of parents in the distanceat home, prayer and love and prayer
and the exact or will cause Godto bring it addiction, the miracle of
the heart of the prodigals is done. It is important the pastor scene that
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you see your prodigal, go backto the distance how you are ready to
react well, to run into yourarms and embrace and love him. You
don' t know if he regrettedit. Not only does it come badly
hurt, smelly, shattered, itdoesn' t bring any of the inheritance.
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No self- esteem, no self- worth, no self- worth,
no self- worth, wondering ifyou would receive it. Yeah,
I lived those nights with my kids. Pastor, I went to look for
my children several nights and with tearsand today they serve. Today they serve
the Lord both and tremendous what todo exactly. And when I see them
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as parents, I realize it wasstill worth it for one day my son
took my hand and said Dad,thank you for going out and looking for
those dark nights. How important thatthe father be present in the children'
s lives. It' s fundamental, Pastor. Scientific studies show that the
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presence of a father in the livesof his children puts the wall of containment
so that they do not go todrugs. Do not decrease the incidence of
teenage pregnancy and decrease the incidence ofinvolvement with wrong people, so it is
essential. I mean. Several studieshave been carried out with detainees, and
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most of them, possibly ninety percent, have a problem of relationship with their
father, in prisons equal drug addiction, alcohol, gambling and confusion being exactly
sixth. Today we see many rulers, including the Ruler we now have,
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we are in the twenty- fourthousand. June of two thousand twenty-
four is you and I recording becausethis is going to continue to be administered
for decades. But in June oftwo thousand twenty- four we have rulers
in power who they test even advocatefor the government to pay for the taxis
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that change the sex for the children. What is the biblical position before that?
What is the position of focus onthe family. That' s a
crime. That' s an evenlesser abuse. And I want to tell
you that all the rulers who todayare legitimizing changing the sex of children,
you are criminals who will one daybe judged against humanity. Why these children,
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as they grow up, will claimto you that, instead of protecting
them, you confused your life.He altered his life. If a minor
is going to put on a pircing, he has to come with the father
' s permission. If a minorneeds an operation, he or she can
do it on his or her own. You don' t have to come
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with the authorization. Parents have tosign to authorize the doctor. In this
case, they are violating the physicalintegrity of children without necessarily parental authorization and
this is a crime. These children, as they grow up one day,
will sue the governments that legalized this. Mom' s dad can never agree
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to that. You must never agree. He cannot agree and must protect his
children. The way to protect them. This is another real case. They
began to teach this group of youngpeople in a school. The girl started
to feel confused. Parents make thedecision to move to another city to protect
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their daughter. Well done why,because at the school they were threatened by
telling them if your daughter wants tochange sex and the school is going to
be worth it and you shouldn't get in. I mean, that
' s a crime that violates theprinciple of parental authority, the paternal power,
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the principle that the responsibility for theupbringing of children is the responsibility of
which of the parents is inviolable isthe prince. Then one has to understand
that our responsibility is to protect ourchildren, even if you have to make
radical decisions, to live in anothercity, to change schools for your children,
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to change jobs for the love ofyour children. But, as you
said today, this program is recordedon the twenty- four thousand. At
this point, more than 40 millionunborn children have been killed. I want
to tell you that even criminals whohave legalized abortion, when scientists, when
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ethics returns to the courthouses and theSenate, you will be judged against humanity,
because you legitimized crimes in the nameof a dark business. It'
s all the love of money exactlyand the motivation to multigive children aha when
we see where you come from.Every child represents millions of dollars, all
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for the love of money. Whatthey say sopsisto is a business love of
money at the root of all evil, sadly paso and again we live in
this society. We must surrender,no, not you duke your children to
get to the Supreme Court, toget them to the Senate, to get
them to the Presidency and to understandthat this must be resisted. The pendulum
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is coming back and the church andsolid families will shine brighter than ever.
I tell you, desperate families willrun home and the Church by saying help
me I don' t know whatto do and we' re no longer
living, because the darkness has filledthe world ten and we have to understand
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that the family must be the safestplace for every member of the home.
Sixth, then how we love prodigalchildren. Conclusion, a summary, tent,
bridges call me, Ask, pardon, ask, forgive, forgive those
who induced you, or who youbelieve led you, that they became prodigal
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forgive them above all, forgive yourprodigal. Prepare the hug, prepare the
feast, prepare the calf, thefat fisher, return the family' s
ring of honor and prepare your heart. Because God has heard your prayer,
your prodigal will return from the landof the enemy Amen that combination of love
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and weeping, but we can nevercompromise it the word of God ever again.
What God says is good, it' s good. What God says
is bad bad. That does notmean that we cannot love and that we
cannot pray. They are two areasof love and the two areas are integrated.
The firmness of convictions and a lovethat continues to be present in the
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lives of our children, that is, that our children know who can come
back and that they will find mercywhen they come back and when they come
back we have to measure the wordsthat we use. True one hundred percent.
I can' t tell you Itold you. They' re leaving
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again It' s already changed.Nothing' s changed? Nothing' s
changed. We recreated or a secondprodigal in the ex was also the problem
because I, because the parable ofthe prodigal son is expressing the love of
the father and this love is aredemptive love. Our ministry is redemption,
reconciliation, forgiveness. But the prodigalhas to have his own encounter. I
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mean, I produce prodigals. IfI hold my son back for me to
decide for them, they need togo meet themselves face to face with God.
Then I can' t hold myson, let him live a religiosity
where they' re going to beagain. I have to pray for God
to rebel to his life. Andanother thing I' ve learned six.
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Mistakes don' t mean they're bad, they made mistakes. Mistakes
are often college or what God allowsthem to learn, to grow. I
mean, there are times that throughmistakes we get to the goals. We
' ve all made mistakes, theparents. I personally, have apologized to
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my children for my mistakes and havetaken personal moments with them where I have
said it I want to apologize toyou for something I have done or said
that has offended you and humbly askedfor forgiveness. Thank you for this wonderful
Sixto program. We love you andadmire you very much. Where you can
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channel. Click on the bell.God bless us.
Welcome to Podcast and Frank Lopez.Thank you once again for being with us,
for sharing our content. And todaywe have a very special guest,
someone I admire at a price,I listen to him, I learn,
I consider him one of the mainvoices in Latin America and worldwide on the
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issue of family. So let's welcome Pastor Sixth ass of focus to
the family. Welcome, Tor Thankyou very much. What an honor to
be with you, Pastor, ourhonors. Thank you for being with us.
I have so many questions to ask. Let' s get started,
let' s get started. Iwant us to focus on talking about what
a prodigal son is called. Verywell I heard one of your extraordinary preachings,
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always preaching in which you are teachingand setting an example, very clear
of what a prodigal is. Let' s start there that' s a
prodigal. A prodigal is someone whodoesn' t value history, stops valuing
security, who gives home. Hedespises parents, humiliates parents. In fact,
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in the parable of the prodigal sonis to give me the share of
the inheritance that corresponds to me,that is, it does not correspond to
you. Until I die, youare not demeaning the father, but,
at the same time, a prodigalis someone, as the scripture itself says,
is someone who is in a stateof unconsciousness, that is, does
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not value, does not appreciate.Why it is important to clearly define who
is a prodigal, because I treatthe person as I define him. The
other definition could be to see himas a rebel. The problem with seeing
him as a common rebel is thatI treat him as a rebel and that
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' s going to cause distance,he' s going to recriminate, he
' s going to distance us.For example, a young woman, after
a lecture talks to me and tellsme my dad ran me out of my
house when I was a 16-year- old teenager. She got pregnant.
He felt that I betrayed Christian valuesand I did. He didn'
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t know me as a daughter.I have no contact with my dad.
My mom' s the one lookingfor me, she' s backing me.
I' ve gone ahead and nowI wonder if my dad would like
to meet his granddaughter, what doI do? But she' s a
prodigal. She' s a goodpoint in this case. She is a
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prodigal because she departs from God.But the prodigal is the father, because
there are two types of prodigals.There' s the asset that' s
going away from home. I'm going away from home, where you
don' t control me, whereyou don' t tell me what time
to get there, don' ttell me who I' m going with.
And the second prodigal is the oneleft at home, which is full
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of religiosity, the one who isnot sensitive, the one who does not
forgive, the one who does notidentify with his brother, for example,
the older brother was a prodigal whyhe stays at home. I' ve
never disobeyed you, Dad. I' ve always worked with you. You
' ve never given me a kidto enjoy. And there' s your
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son. Now he' s back, after you' ve wasted all your
inheritance, and you' re partyingwith him. The father stops and tells
him you' re my son andall mine is yours. This means that
in the Church I can become aprodigal, being responsible, being religious,
complying with the rules, because whenI am prodigal, when my heart is
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hardened and I am insensitive to pain, there I am prodigal, then we
have two prodigals and it is importantto understand it. Going back to this
story, I recommended this girl callyour mom and tell her to ask your
dad if he' d like tomeet the granddaughter. When she tells me
the story, it was awesome,he tells me he didn' t say
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yes or no. He just noddedpride doesn' t say on Sunday that
we arrived as I taught my daughtersea to her grandfather. When the door
opens, the granddaughter runs to thegranny and yells at him granny, granny,
granny, even though he had neverseen what that man did He shed
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himself in tears, that is,the house must be a place of refuge
that I want to reach. Thehouse must be a place of celebration where
I remember that there was so muchjoy and I here suffer hunger. He
said the prodigal went away, Isuffer hunger. I can' t even
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eat the pigs' food. However, it says when I remember my home,
I remember my home. He saideven the simplest servant has better food
than me. It says there thatthe prodigal returns to himself. He'
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s thoughtful, he comes to himself. That means that each of us has
to have his own experience of encounterwith God. And this subject comes to
me a lot because I was prodigalpastor and because my children can prodigal.
I mean, they were distracted.I saw them moving away little by little,
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but I remember my mom how shehad love ropes to bring us back.
You were a prodigal. Yes,I was born in the Church and
the influence of my friends made mego away from the Church, separate myself
from God' s values. Butit' s funny here, Pastor.
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There is no worse Christian. Thereis nothing worse than a separated Christian or
to sin quietly. I couldn't sin quietly because I was already reading
a spiritual seed planted in me thatwouldn' t let me go any further
and imagined your mother' s prayer. She was the one who made it,
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too, because Mom was waiting forus until the last one arrived.
She was praying for us. Shestayed, taking us to the Church.
No, but I don' twant to go it doesn' t matter.
As they went under this house wewent to the Church on Sundays.
That perseverance was crucial. He wouldgather us to pray, but why it
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doesn' t matter. Even ifthey don' t want to. We
' re going to work over time. When you, as a prodigal,
wake up, value that insistence,you value that perseverance and you say wow,
without realizing it. She was formingwalls of protection around me, because
some of my friends ended up drinking. I mean, that would have been
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my destiny for others in a troubledworld, but my mom and dad were
still taking us to church. Theykept marking the way and I remember,
when I became Pastor, it wason God Street talking to me on the
street coming from a dance in theearly morning. In the street I hear
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his voice as Jacob in the dream. God stood on the stairs and spoke
to him and called him. Iam the God of your grandfather Abraham and
your father isaac I went to theedge of my bed, knelt down and
gave my heart to Christ I neverforget. That night my brothers cried,
the three of us wept, thetwo of us slept together in the same
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room and the glory of God fell. And I remember my mom coming in
and saying why we prayed, andmy brother told Mom, Sixtus is turning.
But my mom insisted never to seeus turn away from God. But
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my mom never stopped seeing the futureGod had with us. And that was
his hope. Even on one occasionI challenge her and tell Mom how it
is that you have peace and wego wrong. I don' t know,
it was like a restlessness of thoserebellious nights. No, she looks
at me, points at me andtells me why I have peace, because
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I know the end of the story. One day, one to one of
you will return is your mother waspraying according to the future aha that God
had promised her exacting her children.That' s faith. That is faith
and this is the way I mustdo it. But I have to think
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about whether my home is a shelteror a place I want to leave.
For example, a shepherd' sdaughter once looked for me and broke crying.
My dad kicked me out of thehouse, forbade my sisters, my
mom to talk to me and takecare of me I say why,'
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Cause my non- girlfriend' shyssa, a young man who is from
the church, is from another church, I say he is a Christian,
says yes, that' s calledreligiosity, and religiosity makes prodigals. Religiosity
drives our children out, because thenlaws are more important than love, when
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relationship than relationship. When there areunrelated laws, there is rebellion and she
tells me my mom is secretly lookingfor me, but it hurts me that
my dad is away from me.Well, the question that arises is that
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' s a parent' s rightattitude. No. No. For example,
Judas was going to betray Jesus.Jesus knew that he was going to
betray him and loved him, hisfriend made him treasurer of the group,
but Jesus was going to betray himknew that he was going to betray him
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the night that Jesus, Judas,kissed Jesus with the treacherous kiss. Jesus
tells him what you have with mefriend, calls him friend. For me,
that is what Judas breaks, becauseJudas had seen miracles, had seen
Jesus walk on the water, hadseen the multiplication of loaves and fishes,
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had seen leper heal paralyzed, hadseen Lazarus or had risen and had not
seen Jesus. I had not recognizedJesus as good. He never recognized him.
Okay. That can happen. Theson may be home, but I
need a personal meeting. The questionis how I should love my prodigal,
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and that' s what I mustbe clear about. Religiosity produces prodigals?
Legalism produces prodigals? Humiliation produces prodigals? Does disparaging my children produce prodigals?
Does comparing my children produce prodigal?It' s just that you have a
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favorite and it' s easy tohave a favorite child. What more prodin
produces What are the most common mistakesthat we, Hispanics, Latin Americans,
cultures that you have, that arepart of our culture, our belief,
our religiosity, that what it doesis produce prodigal children. First of all,
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for me, we want to belike a chicken that covers chicks and
we don' t allow our kidsto grow up. That' s very
good. Then, for example,one day I' m talking about this,
a doctor in her 28s talks tome and tells me, but then
I' m not prodigal. Isay explain that I left my house because
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I grew up, I became adoctor. I keep going to church,
but my mom and dad wanted tocontrol what time I get there and I
want to what I go to andyou tell me you can' t come
so late, I say mom,I have a guard at the hospital,
I mean, you can' ttell me I can' t come late.
It' s my job, Ihave a guard at the hospital.
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I realized that my parents didn't evolve to understand that I grew up.
She' s not a prodigy overprotection. It is an overprotection that passes
the limits of age. I mean, I can do that with my little
boy. Where are you going,where do I say? Where are you
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going? What time you arrive andthe discipline of the home. But if
my son grew up, that's not a prodigal. That is a
child who grew up and is makinghis own decisions and is normal in life.
It' s normal. That canproduce prodigals. Look how interesting,
why, because that' s whatreligious people do. Rules are imposed which
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they themselves do not comply with.Then. Secondly, what produces prodigals.
Hypocrisy, the fact that I weara nice suit, on Sunday, the
fact that I greet the whole worldwith glory to God and in the house
I cry insult humble, I saybad words, we fight to the point
of beating ourselves. That produces prodigal, many, many prodigals. That produces
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rebellion, rebellion because there is adouble discourse. That' s religiosity,
not for example, a mom approachesone of my colleagues who shares this subject
and told her there' s myeighteen- year- old daughter. She
doesn' t want to come onSaturdays to the young ah really and look
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at the girl and tell her butyou' re heard. Sundays in church.
They say no. I never miss. There' s no shortage of
church Sundays. Ma' am toldyou my colleague see how good she has
and not how bad she has.If you skip the bad, emphasize the
bad. If you see the good, you will strengthen in it how good
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you have. That produces prodigals thatI begin to see the bad and rather
than stop seeing the plans that Godhas with my children. For example,
I had a shepherd as a childand my shepherd would pray on Wednesdays at
the prayer meeting. Sometimes he calledme. And now I was a boy,
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seven or eight years old and Godwas moving in a special way.
Then he started taking me to hispreaching tours and my mom sent me and
I went and listened to him andhe started calling me my little shepherd.
I used to say it sounded nicewhen I was a kid, but when
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I got to my teens and left, he looked at me and hugged me
and told me where my little shepherdis and I said to myself he'
s crazy. I don' tgo to church anymore. No, he
wasn' t seeing the present circumstance. He was seeing the future. And
as he saw it, so itis. It' s a good attitude
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to keep your eye on the end, as my mom helps build bridges for
me to come back if you humiliateme, if you reject me, if
you scold me, you continually imposerules on me that I don' t
want to comply with. You're throwing me out today. For example,
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I still remember my son Stephen,when he began to hear music from
the world. It was like 2, 000 songs on his device and he
put the songs on and it wasa struggle with how to do it.
I was telling him to build youup, help, Dad, he'
s distracted. Oh, Dad.He' s distracted. And I said
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this shouldn' t be cause oflitigation between us. God will come to
reveal himself to his life. Ican' t change my children or my
spouse. I can love my childrenand my spouse. I proclaim and it
is my duty to do that youchange it from God exactly and one day
when my children wake up. Myson Stephen comes to the Lord and God
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begins to deal with him. Iwas, like, 19 years old.
He tells me Mira, what I' m going to do, Dad what
you' re going to do.I' m going to erase all the
songs that aren' t Christian frommy device on a button one and their
life radically changed. But who hasn' t changed, God, not me.
It' s up to me tolove and build bridges. It'
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s a mistake for a father ora mother to take a child out of
the home. This is a question, pastor who doesn' t ask them
many times. For example, theseparents arrived after six months of having no
contact with their daughter. She pleadsto Lesbiana wants to live with her lover.
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They are Christians, leaders of theChurch. Says Mira, they tell
her you' re breaking the rulesof this house. We don' t
agree. Yo, Dad said hegot angry and told him you' re
not my daughter anymore. Please,if you want to live with that woman,
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leave this house. The father losescontact and, as always, the
mother keeps the contact. He doesn' t listen to you They talk.
The father is distressed with the monthswhen he has no contact with his daughter
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and that' s where the approachto the family comes in for help.
What do I do? We toldyou look love is unconditional. I can
' t condition myself to love mydaughter because she behaves the way I want
her to. I have to loveeven when the job is done. Find
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her and love her, just loveher. Find her and love her.
The rules of the house are rulesthat must respect the rules of the house.
I can' t. The factthat I love you does not mean
that I open my door, thatin my house any scene occurs, not
the rules of respect for healthy livingat home are respected. But you'
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re my daughter and nothing is goingto stop me from loving you. It
was like taking a big burden fromthis father. So look for her and
love her. The fact that youlove her does not mean that you consent
to sin or that you are infavor of what she is doing. You
can reflect. You can argue.Second example, this mom talks to me
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with a very religious spirit and toldme my son has fallen in love with
a girl who is not Christian,she is Mormon. I said no.
He insists she' s a goodgirl. I tell her what it'
s like to be a good boyis worth the Church and everything or that
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and I' ve told her no, that she' s not related to
her. I don' t wanther to come to the house. And
we' ve had a lot offighting and I' ve told him that
I don' t approve, Idon' t bless that relationship. It
looks like fifty percent is right,fifty bad than what I mean. What
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' s the right part, Imean, he' s a kid who
' s grown up, he's a kid who' s making his
own decisions. What should I do, I must warn danger, I must
instruct, I must prove the rightway. But I have to call him
and tell him you' re myson and I love you what I see
is that you' ve grown up. I' m telling you, we
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' re gonna change the strategy.Why don' t you change the strategy
and, instead of rejecting this younggirl, just love her tell your son.
If you choose her as your wifeor as your girlfriend, my mission
will be to love her. Iwant to tell you I disagree. I
want to tell you that if yougo this way, you' re going
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to have trouble creating your children.You' re gonna have a problem because
their values are different. Of courseyou have to warn the way and you
have to warn the problems by lookinghim in the eye tell him I want
to tell you that no matter whatdecision you love I' m going to
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love you, I' m goingto make your mother and we' re
going to love this girl. Thenshe did what I told her. He
invited the girl to eat at thehouse. He apologized, he said I
wanted to apologize for rejecting you.If my son chooses you as his girlfriend,
my honor is to love you.Then she said. I began to
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love her and one Sunday we invitedher to the Church. The girl becomes
and begins to walk for Cristol andthe girl becomes the pibot that drives the
son to do the right thing.That' s the right attitude. You
' re telling us that even ifwe don' t agree, we have
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to keep loving. Okay, let' s go to the parable. The
parabola says the youngest son told thefather to give me part of the inheritance
that belongs to me. Dad callsboth of you. Deal the inheritance.
I imagine it, embrace it,bless it and dialogue is as follows.
My son has grown up. Myson is now making his own decisions and
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it' s up to me torespect him. That' s what needs
to be done. I can't treat a young man like a child?
A teenager like a child? Imust treat a teenager as a teenager
and a young man as a youngman, although the decisions I am making
go against God and go against hisown good. This is a very profound
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subject, more gift because when Iam a child, I am responsible.
When he' s young, Ihave to bless him. I' m
going to talk about what the parents' mission means. Parents' mission is
patient. God gives us a childwho is totally dependent and we will guide
him as he grows to absolute independence. Now I return the question to you
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At what age my son attains independenceat the age of twenty- one.
Well, it can be twenty-one, at eighteen, at sixteen eighteen.
I say eighteen, because at eighteenyour daughter can go to a university
across the country. So what Imean is we have seventeen years to make
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my son know how to behave ina world where he administers 100 percent of
his freedom. I mean, 18- year- old soy is an adult.
Okay, as long as I liveunder the roof of the house,
there are rules that are met andI must guide him. I never finish
raising. For example, one ofthe most beautiful scenes in the Bible is
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when Jesus, at about thirty yearsof age, is baptized. It'
s like the day your first dayof work goes, you' re going
to get induction. That' sright, and the father comes in,
and he screams at his throat.This is my beloved son, in whom
I am complacent. That' stelling us the father' s love for
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the son is never ending this mission. Pastor, I never end up influencing
and guiding that this what I am, what is changing is the way I
relate. For example, I stillremember when one of my children' s
claims was Dad. You' rea good dad, but you never take
us to the stadium. They lovedfootball. They want to go to the
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stadium, so let' s goand go to the stadium. My son
had one twelve and the others almostfifteen, and I wanted to prove what
it meant to be a father ofone of two and one of almost fifteen.
We' re gonna cross the streetand reach out to the 12-
year- old, shake my hand. I reach out to the fifteen-
year- old, he lets mego He says no, Dad. I
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cluso sees the difference they' reeducating us. I' ll explain what
my mistake would be. We're not going across the street Give me
your hand. That' s amistake because my son is 15. I
explain to myself are fathers and mothershave to adjust to their way of loving.
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Yes, I remember it at theage of the children. They have
to because I am transferring authority,responsibility and developing skills in them. I
have to move authority, freedom andresponsibility. Then my mission as a father
is to move him as Chrisse firstfeeds him, then teaches him how to
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eat. I saw him first.Now she taught him how to dress.
First it helps you do the homework. Now she does it for themselves.
If I keep doing the sign andmy son is twelve years old, we
will all know that I made theposter or that he is six, but
it is very difficult for a dadand a mom when, for example,
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the case that these are cases ofreal life, of course the young man
falls in love with a girl whois not Christian, who is not Christian
and belongs to a sect yes Mormon. Then you said. We have to
stop knowing our position always advising it, accompanying it and the fact that we
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do not agree does not cancel thatwe must continue to love it exactly.
These are the things that the previousPope did less than he did was to
stop loving her. He kicked himout, I mean, I take your
love to punish you for mistake.Love never takes it away anymore. God
never stopped loving us. Yes,when Adam and Eve sin, God appears
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in the garden and does two thingsone looks for them, calls them and
two saw them. That' sthe most beautiful thing and he designs a
redemption plan. There are consequences ofyour decisions. I can' t help
it You' re deciding, butI want to tell you that I came
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down to love you and designed aredemption plan. That' s what'
s important. But I don't see, I don' t see
him in the son' s parable, I prodigal to show the love of
father. He shuts the door forus. It doesn' t tell him
if you walk out that door.I don' t know you. He
doesn' t say that he doesn' t hug him, bless him.
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And the door was open. It' s open. He didn' t
stop loving him. I don't stop loving him. He didn'
t agree. He didn' tagree if he left and he didn'
t agree to give him his inheritance. No, but the truth is.
But he disagreed and left the door. Did you see and leave the door
open? And that open door involvesthree things. One forgives you, I
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know that one day you could comevery badly beaten, very hurt with nothing
and I would be ready to hugyou. Number one I forgive you,
number two continued to pray, cryingfor the reunion. And number three.
This question is often asked to me. I have to find my prodigal.
Yes, because remember that the parableof the prodigal son comes It is a
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trilogy of the three parables, thelost coin and the lost sheep. What
he does with the coin and thesheep looks for them until they find them.
In the parable of the prodigal sonthere are other elements, there is
forgiveness, there is cry and thereis an open door. Then Jesus came
to look for his lost children,his younger brothers who had lost their father.
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He comes to design a plan ofredemption and comes to look for each
one of us. Of course Ihave to build bridges. The prodigal'
s question is he' ll stilllove me Despite my mistake, he'
ll be proud of me. Hereturns with a slave mentality. He returns
servant clear, I want to bea return as a son and the father
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gives him the level. The fatherimmediately corrected him aha and gave him the
level of children. If he honoredhim, dressed him, gave him back
the family ring, no one elsewore it. Only in the family does
he wear shoes that mean freedom,that is, you can be listening to
yourself and at the same time,he introduces him to the house with the
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honor of children and makes a greatfaithful and throws a great party. He
doesn' t claim anything, absolutelynothing. Ok sito, I want to
ask you several questions. Today weare seeing that there is a culture that
has fallen into a high level ofdarkness. We are, our children are
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facing an indoctrination in schools, ontelevision to one of the children' s
films to accept a behavior that isthe Bible. The word of our God
says that such behavior is sin andhas horrible consequences. We are talking about
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the indoctrination we see in favor ofhomosexualism, what consequences it has in doctrine
number one. It is true thatthis can affect the development of the sexual
identity of that child when it growsnumber one. I want to be sure,
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number two. What must be adad who confronts a young man who
comes as you call him, youtell the prodigal son that you were gone,
you don' t call him.Rebel is not in a state of
unconsciousness ok alone. That doctrine canestablish a generation of a state of unconsciousness
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and that must be the attitude ofa father and a mother to such a
case. All right. First ofall, I' m going to talk
preventively. No cell phones to yourchildren, no tablets to your children.
It' s very important to startthat way Don' t put it in.
In a world that' s goingto teach him, what' s
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going to hurt him, who's going to hurt him. Today you
have to be brave and I knowwhy you give tablet and cell phone to
your children to justify their addiction andhave the time for you to navigate as
many hours as you want. Let' s start with us. We have
to control ourselves. Then let usgive ourselves the opportunity to educate our children.
Being present in their lives, letus teach them to read, to
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seek God, to serve others,to have compassion, to develop their abilities,
to project them into the future.Project it into the future. Let
us not educate our children as ifthey were calves on their way to the
slaughter. That' s not true. You and I have the honor and
privilege to lead our children to theright destiny. As Psalm one hundred and
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twenty- seven says, children arelike arrows in the hands of the mighty.
That' s right, they havea number one, number two destination.
He insists on planting values and principlesin the hearts of his children.
Number three. Train them to leadtheir generation, to have convictions, to
have strong convictions. Number four.Find an environment where your children can grow
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up in such a way that theyare protected. You can tell me school
and school are indoctrinating my children getthem out of school and school and put
them in school and look for asafe environment for their children. Our children
do not have to be in aharmful environment that is making their lives sick.
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Then one in that one has tobe radical. That' s why
I' m advocating pastor, thatchurches re- create high schools, universities
to give choice to a culture thattrains in a different way. Let us
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assume that my son is already twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, he
has come in this process of sadindoctrination, which has hurt his heart and
is confused. Research the subject,Go focus on the family, com find
all the literature. When my sontells me he' s confused, what
should I interpret. I must learnto respond wisely to that question my son
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is asking me. I want toask you a question because on the side
of indoctrination, I consider it ahigh level of diabolical manifestation. It'
s diabolical. That indoctrination confuses youngpeople in their sexual identity. Yes or
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no. Young people growing up haveno confusion about their sexual identity. He
has a confusion in the concepts theybegin to handle. It' s not
the man is the man and thewoman is the woman. Only that we,
as we go, growing up,living experiences, for example, there
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has been an abuse, there hasbeen an abandonment. It' s very
common. This is going to fuelconfusion in interpreting my sexuality. If I
grow up in an environment where everyonesays that they all do it, that
it is valid, that it isnormal, that this is what they are
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all doing, that is indoctrination,an indoctrination, is an installation of a
system of thought that I come toaccept as valid, as a truth,
as a truth, although it isa lie, Although internally I know that
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it is wrong, that is,I know that there is something that is
not right. This means that ourchildren no matter how indoctrinated they may be.
They have no confusion. What youhave is a moment of doubt over
everything you are living and a tolerance. Now, that' s what I
have to do I have to stepup teaching my children and intentionally do a
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teaching of what it' s liketo be a man and what it'
s like to be a woman.To heal the heart if at any time
it has been hurt to be ableto restore relationships and are broken. For
example, many of our children goout looking for a father in a homosexual
relationship. It is the absence ofa father the abandonment and abandonment then I
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am somatizing, expressing in a waya feeling of abandonment. Then I must
be present in my children' slives. I must heal the heart of
my children and accompany them as theygrow up. We' re going to
come to the essence of the questionis an adult over twenty and a day.
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Looks like he says I fell inlove with someone of the same sex.
What should I do to love him. I urge you to be firm
in the convictions that I have.This is what we believe, this is
what the Bible says, but Iwill love you. Let' s go
to the scene of Jesus. Thesinful woman enters the house of the Pharisee
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and asks permission from Jesus and canapproach. The sinful woman approaches such a
point that you kiss at the feetand weep at the feet of Jesus.
He sheds his tears at Jesus'feet. The Pharisee says if he knew
who kissed his feet. He won' t let you, because of course
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I know who kisses my feet.Says Jesus God. He' s God.
If only you knew that I cameto seek out those who were lost,
those who are wrong, those whohave a wounded heart. I'
m here to find the one who' s lost. Maybe he' s
the father. The father comes,he has to look for the one who
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is wounded, the one who ishurt. Doesn' t mean the fact
that I' m with my songoes out with my son. Love my
son that I tolerate what is wrongor that I or that I endorse what
is wrong. It doesn' tmean that. It doesn' t mean
that in any way. My sonknows I' m against him. Let
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' s see, this is anotherreal case. The son turned away,
he had gone with the lover,the dad and they fight. The son
goes away, he' s alreadyan adult. One day he comes into
town and says Dad, I'm in town. I wanted to see
if we could have clear dinner mylove where he' s suspected in a
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hotel. Don' t come tothe house, but Dad, you know
it doesn' t matter to myson. Come to the house. He
said this son when I arrived atthe house, my room, just as
I had left it at dinner,everything had changed. They didn' t
humiliate me, they didn' tcriticize me, they didn' t embarrass
me. They just loved me.When I went to bed, my dad
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knocked on the door. I can, yeah, Dad came into the room
and gave me back like I wasa kid. He knelt on the edge
of my bed, settled my hair, put the blanket on me. He
told me I can pray for you, of course Dad, and he prayed
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as he always prayed. He saidthis son. Then I realized that nothing
had changed in my dad' sheart and that was the door for me
to go back to Godhead and explainto me what happened to the lover.
That is the decision that God hasto make. I' m going to
another case. It just illustrates it. It stopped me asking a question what
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happens if the son wants to bringthe lover to the log house Those are
different rules, those are different situations. What should that dad' s position
and that mom' s? Youknow that' s not allowed here.
These are the rules of the house. I can love you and I want
to encourage you to pray is yourlife, but we can' t give
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an example to your younger brothers aboutthis that isn' t right. I
mean, I have to be firmin my convictions, but my convictions can
never overcome the love that I havefor me or that is the truth of
God. The order of God mustbe given. Cancel the master, not
a dad, not a mom.I don' t use this example.
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This girl growing up in church,she' s called Melisa, she'
s a real man. Lives anabuse on the part of a dad'
s worker. She was recent.She is offended with the church because she
was a person who goes to church. Wow. She walks away from lesbianism.
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She, when she' s overthe age of majority, goes away
with her lover. She takes ona male role, dresses like a man
being away. The lover tells herthat she wants to go to the Church
and when I hear the testimony Iam smooth. It strikes me because I
say God uses anything to bring usaround and then Melisa says yes, I
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know in English to the church.I went as a child and they go
to church. He says we weresitting behind an old man' s marriage.
They sat at par and every Sundaythey invited us to eat and always
loved us, hugged us. I, Melisa, tell her that she lived
in another city one day, saysMelisa, being on the edge of the
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bed, she starts crying and cryingand crying conviction of sin. I'
m sick. It says there Iunderstood that I was wrong. I must
return to God. I' llexplain what happened to him. The exact
prodigal came back, came to himself. The first thing Melisa does is go
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and look for that old couple.And the first thing he says is I
want to tell you that God hasspoken to my heart and tell you that
I am not a man and theelders call him daughter from day one.
We know that you are not hisname and she is aware of what the
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love of these elders is. Whatmelted his heart was what God used and
the prayer of parents in the distanceat home, prayer and love and prayer
and the exact or will cause Godto bring it addiction, the miracle of
the heart of the prodigals is done. It is important the pastor scene that
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you see your prodigal, go backto the distance how you are ready to
react well, to run into yourarms and embrace and love him. You
don' t know if he regrettedit. Not only does it come badly
hurt, smelly, shattered, itdoesn' t bring any of the inheritance.
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No self- esteem, no self- worth, no self- worth,
no self- worth, wondering ifyou would receive it. Yeah,
I lived those nights with my kids. Pastor, I went to look for
my children several nights and with tearsand today they serve. Today they serve
the Lord both and tremendous what todo exactly. And when I see them
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as parents, I realize it wasstill worth it for one day my son
took my hand and said Dad,thank you for going out and looking for
those dark nights. How important thatthe father be present in the children'
s lives. It' s fundamental, Pastor. Scientific studies show that the
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presence of a father in the livesof his children puts the wall of containment
so that they do not go todrugs. Do not decrease the incidence of
teenage pregnancy and decrease the incidence ofinvolvement with wrong people, so it is
essential. I mean. Several studieshave been carried out with detainees, and
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most of them, possibly ninety percent, have a problem of relationship with their
father, in prisons equal drug addiction, alcohol, gambling and confusion being exactly
sixth. Today we see many rulers, including the Ruler we now have,
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we are in the twenty- fourthousand. June of two thousand twenty-
four is you and I recording becausethis is going to continue to be administered
for decades. But in June oftwo thousand twenty- four we have rulers
in power who they test even advocatefor the government to pay for the taxis
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that change the sex for the children. What is the biblical position before that?
What is the position of focus onthe family. That' s a
crime. That' s an evenlesser abuse. And I want to tell
you that all the rulers who todayare legitimizing changing the sex of children,
you are criminals who will one daybe judged against humanity. Why these children,
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as they grow up, will claimto you that, instead of protecting
them, you confused your life.He altered his life. If a minor
is going to put on a pircing, he has to come with the father
' s permission. If a minorneeds an operation, he or she can
do it on his or her own. You don' t have to come
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with the authorization. Parents have tosign to authorize the doctor. In this
case, they are violating the physicalintegrity of children without necessarily parental authorization and
this is a crime. These children, as they grow up one day,
will sue the governments that legalized this. Mom' s dad can never agree
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to that. You must never agree. He cannot agree and must protect his
children. The way to protect them. This is another real case. They
began to teach this group of youngpeople in a school. The girl started
to feel confused. Parents make thedecision to move to another city to protect
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their daughter. Well done why,because at the school they were threatened by
telling them if your daughter wants tochange sex and the school is going to
be worth it and you shouldn't get in. I mean, that
' s a crime that violates theprinciple of parental authority, the paternal power,
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the principle that the responsibility for theupbringing of children is the responsibility of
which of the parents is inviolable isthe prince. Then one has to understand
that our responsibility is to protect ourchildren, even if you have to make
radical decisions, to live in anothercity, to change schools for your children,
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to change jobs for the love ofyour children. But, as you
said today, this program is recordedon the twenty- four thousand. At
this point, more than 40 millionunborn children have been killed. I want
to tell you that even criminals whohave legalized abortion, when scientists, when
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ethics returns to the courthouses and theSenate, you will be judged against humanity,
because you legitimized crimes in the nameof a dark business. It'
s all the love of money exactlyand the motivation to multigive children aha when
we see where you come from.Every child represents millions of dollars, all
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for the love of money. Whatthey say sopsisto is a business love of
money at the root of all evil, sadly paso and again we live in
this society. We must surrender,no, not you duke your children to
get to the Supreme Court, toget them to the Senate, to get
them to the Presidency and to understandthat this must be resisted. The pendulum
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is coming back and the church andsolid families will shine brighter than ever.
I tell you, desperate families willrun home and the Church by saying help
me I don' t know whatto do and we' re no longer
living, because the darkness has filledthe world ten and we have to understand
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that the family must be the safestplace for every member of the home.
Sixth, then how we love prodigalchildren. Conclusion, a summary, tent,
bridges call me, Ask, pardon, ask, forgive, forgive those
who induced you, or who youbelieve led you, that they became prodigal
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forgive them above all, forgive yourprodigal. Prepare the hug, prepare the
feast, prepare the calf, thefat fisher, return the family' s
ring of honor and prepare your heart. Because God has heard your prayer,
your prodigal will return from the landof the enemy Amen that combination of love
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and weeping, but we can nevercompromise it the word of God ever again.
What God says is good, it' s good. What God says
is bad bad. That does notmean that we cannot love and that we
cannot pray. They are two areasof love and the two areas are integrated.
The firmness of convictions and a lovethat continues to be present in the
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lives of our children, that is, that our children know who can come
back and that they will find mercywhen they come back and when they come
back we have to measure the wordsthat we use. True one hundred percent.
I can' t tell you Itold you. They' re leaving
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again It' s already changed.Nothing' s changed? Nothing' s
changed. We recreated or a secondprodigal in the ex was also the problem
because I, because the parable ofthe prodigal son is expressing the love of
the father and this love is aredemptive love. Our ministry is redemption,
reconciliation, forgiveness. But the prodigalhas to have his own encounter. I
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mean, I produce prodigals. IfI hold my son back for me to
decide for them, they need togo meet themselves face to face with God.
Then I can' t hold myson, let him live a religiosity
where they' re going to beagain. I have to pray for God
to rebel to his life. Andanother thing I' ve learned six.
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Mistakes don' t mean they're bad, they made mistakes. Mistakes
are often college or what God allowsthem to learn, to grow. I
mean, there are times that throughmistakes we get to the goals. We
' ve all made mistakes, theparents. I personally, have apologized to
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my children for my mistakes and havetaken personal moments with them where I have
said it I want to apologize toyou for something I have done or said
that has offended you and humbly askedfor forgiveness. Thank you for this wonderful
Sixto program. We love you andadmire you very much. Where you can
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get your books and focus information fromfamilies, please focus on the family,
dot com everything we do, it' s there on the YouTube channel,
focus on the family social networks.So we have a family approach, a
family approach, a sixth joint excellentresources. Thank you very much. I
' ll see you soon on thenext podcast. Please follow us on our
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