Detroit Lions Draft, PISTONS PLAYOFFS I Ermanni & Edwards with Maz I Wednesday, April 16th, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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(00:49):
Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
It is a good afternoon, a lot warmer and more
sunshine and it was yesterday, so feeling good about that.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Got a great way to start the show.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
But before we do that, I'm super excited man Rink
as well as our.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mind my man Wowk.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
For the next three days in the booth. Right now
into that, I say, what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Though, It's it's an honor to be here on the money.
That words, I'm filling in here and there. This is
the first like stretch I got with you guys, filling
in for Pete head to wear the Michigan Panthers.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
Let pet Cook, let Pete Cooke and joint calendar be
holding down for you, brother now spending if you had
any uh anything to do at the morning show today,
because I mean, at least you'll have your hand in
every level of show today.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I'm off of bead for the next three days and
heavyweights for me. A little better, much.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Better schedule for you.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
I got my workout early.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
We're talking about the workouts before the show man talking about,
you know, working out to help you.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
He's about to be in that transfer portal. That's the
new compliment for transfer.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Definitely about that transfer portal. Tom As Away was going.

Speaker 8 (02:10):
On, brother, just me man, just shoot, just me man.
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (02:15):
We found out today when the Pistols are going to
be playing their home game.

Speaker 8 (02:18):
We'll tell you about that.

Speaker 9 (02:20):
Of course I had to screw us right and they did. Anyway,
I'm here for a good time. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Here's a good time for you, Ryan. I know you
like movies.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh, big time, tom Asway, I know you enjoy a
good flat. You know that spend more Rex as well
as Ricky. I'm sure last night I went saw a movie.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Ryan.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Do you remember in twenty twenty two when we came
in the studio after Top Gun Maverick came out.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Do you remember the elation and the joy that you
had so much joy?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Best movie I've seen at the theater in a decade?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Agree?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
One thousand percent. I agree, I saw one that is comparable.
It's still not better, but it was damn good. The
Accountant too.

Speaker 8 (02:55):
Was really good.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Didn't you know it came?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I saw last night he Match and the super Max
and it was he put on a show.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's we got to get a special guest later on.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
But obviously you know an account he's autistic, but he
is a badass. He brought that same energy in this one.
And oh, by the way, John Byurn the whole plays Daredevil.
He was electric. But it's also a good story to brothers.
I won't share too much, but after watching I got
all this excitement out of a Countumn two.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I got to thinking, what are.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Some other good sequels that may or in fact were
better than the original want to let this go for.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I mean Rocky comes to mind. I mean Rocky two. Well,
Rocky one was the goat, but Rocky two very serviceable.
Rocky four was better than Rocky three. I think Creed
as a sequel to Rocky Balboa. That's how I consider
that movie that was Godfather to. Godfather To also won

(03:51):
the Academy Award for Best Picture. Some people say it's
better than Godfather won there it is.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Prepared a little something. In fact, we got graphics as well.
These are just a couple.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Their mind, mine their mind.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Minus a couple got Terminator two in there. I think
Terminator two is the number one sequel of all time.
I think Godfather Too is the number two sequel of
all time. I think Dark Night is three and the
rest is fun. Next Friday. To me, when Friday came out,
my parents were not letting me see Curse movies, and
it came out ninety five. Couldn't have it. I actually
saw it late. But when Next Friday came out, I

(04:27):
was in theaters. I was a sophomore in high school,
and boy did I enjoy it. But the rest is
on here. Man, It's all objective and it's fun. Had
to put Mighty Tugs two on there, though.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Weezy Weezy has one in the chat that I absolutely
think number two is better than the original, and that's
Lethal Weapon.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Lethal Weapon two is the best film in the series,
I think.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
I just like the fight scene at the end of
part one. Yeah, like the fight scene at the end
of part one. Plus I like the bad guy in
part one.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
A lot of people are saying Terminator two judgment day
the iHeart to.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
What about the Clones? Do you count that like?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Because Phantom Menace, if you're looking at the new sequels,
Phantom Menace was bad.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
But Attack of Clones that's one of the best.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So I agree with you because I think everybody it
was The Empire Strikes Back.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, that's the one that's considered the movie of you
know how very many movies there are. But I agree
with you.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
When they bought the New System back, it was dope.
As I've gotten noticed, it's been a lot better. But
this is just this fun like. Terminator two for me
is the one I remember when it first came out.
You see the commercial, you see the T one thousand
and its liquid metal. I still can remember in the
theater when he put himself into the helicopter and switched
with the pilot. Nothing beas Terminator too.

Speaker 8 (05:37):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
It's a die Hard too in there as well, from
somebody I love die Hard. Die Hard Too I think
would probably be second to it, but they're also good.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Die Hard with Avengeance is on my list. I sent
that in and he didn't put it. Die Hard with
Avengeance to me because it really birthed Samuel L. Jackson
the first time he was a coach.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
Like them all. Yeah, they like Bruce Willis.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
Who was the Airport bad Boys to sports. That's a
good one.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Send us your yeah, send them in, Send us your
Weddy Murphy's movies. Beverly Hills Cop two better better than
Beverly Hills Cop one to me because you've got Surgeon there. Yeah,
that's h that's another one. Beverly Hills got four much
better than Beverly Hills Cop three.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
It seems like three is always the punching bag, like
you know wise because if they.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Make a four, that's god Fallow. Three sucked if they
make it.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
If they make a four to three sucked, like god
Father used to make a four to make up for three.
But yeah, if it's four to third is usually like
we got to make up for three.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right, So I was good. Yeah, good job, break man.
I gotta watch account in one now.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
Yeah, I know, I know that makes me want to
watch account one.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I tell you like this, No, you need to go
see Accounting two. You can come back and watch count
one later. Go see Accounting too. It's really good and
the story doesn't necessarily take place from one, so you
don't so you don't have to watch one to watch two.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Absolutely, guys, Tigers in action right now. They're losing four nothing.
But here's what I'd like to do. I'd like to
talk about Tigers at the end of the show. Maybe
we'll get a little bit closer to the game being over,
as opposed to giving you a play by play, because again,
if you're watching this not live, then you already know
the result of the Tigers game and it makes no

(07:23):
sense to talk about it. So maybe we'll talk Tigers
at the end of the show. I would like to
talk Pistons now if I could, because I think a
lot of us were a little surprised, startled, bewildered.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
We were all waiting for.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
This schedule to come out when the Pistons' home games
would be and we do not know the time of
Game three just yet, but we do know that Game
three in Detroit at Little Caesars Arena will be played on.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
Wow Thursday, which.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Is also Round one of the NFT.

Speaker 10 (08:00):
They gotta be on purpose.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Well, look if.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
If the Lions pick at twenty eight, and I don't
know how many people believe they're gonna pick it twenty eight,
but if they pick it twenty eight, and there's no
way to really guess this because with ten minutes in
between picks, not every team uses the allotted ten minutes,
so a lot of picks could go one after the next,
after the next. I anticipate the Lions to pick around

(08:28):
eleven PM, around eleven and the Pistons game, we believe
would be well over by then. This really affects the
people that want to go to the game, not somebody
that's got to remote in their hands. Right this If
you want to go to be at Little Caesars Arena,
you want to be in the crowd. This really affects you.

(08:51):
If it I'm going, You're going, So it affects you
be there.

Speaker 8 (08:55):
You hate it too.

Speaker 9 (08:56):
You hate this, Yeah, because I wanted to be with
our team at whatever bar we're going to, and I'm
thinking it's Buffalo Wild Wings.

Speaker 8 (09:06):
I wish I could be there, but instead.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
I'm gonna go to the Pistols game and then I'm
gonna hop on one of those scooters. I'm gonna run
the Buffalo Wild Wings and I'm gonna get there for
the Lion's pick.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
The best way to move downtown. That's what I'm doing.
I'm doing both.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
It definitely sucks, but I think it's at the end
of the day, I think it's still gonna be I
think it's gonna be fun inside.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think, Elie, it would be a rocket time.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I think the people that are coming for the Pistons
and the Knicks, they'll be in the building. I think
the draft would do what it does. It sucks, but
I'll be with you. I wasn't misheard what you guys
have said.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
I want.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I'm not going to the game, man, It's like you,
I'll be there at Buffalo Wild Wings.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
There you go, yeah, and then look, I feel like
it's fine, right, but just in terms of you want
to go to the watch party at Ford Field. Perhaps
for the NFL Draft, you want to go to the
Little Caesars ra There's so many different event downtown that
it affects and I do feel bad for those sports
fans because you could turn two nights, you could turn

(10:07):
you know, two big nights into one night, and it
just kind of minimizes and shortens the season a little
bit because of all the hoopla surrounding everything. It's fun
to focus on the Lions and be downtown to watch draft.
It's fun to then maybe the next night go downtown
and watch the Pistons play at Little Caesars Arena. And

(10:27):
there will probably be a difference too when it comes
to the Pistons in that game three Thursday night is
if they do get a split in New York, if
they get it, if they get a win in New
york's the game one or two and it's Saturday, Monday,
Saturday Monday, Game one Saturday six pm, Game two Monday
seven thirty pm. If you can get a split in

(10:49):
New York, this town is gonna be Nutso on Thursday,
now our game.

Speaker 9 (10:53):
Which will be here at LCA next Thursday. Maybe that's smart.
Maybe they put it at six o'clock at night. Put
it's because you got a whole NBA slate, right, put
it at six.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Let us get the hell out.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Of there at eight and then enjoyed to enjoy the
draft because the draft don't start till after.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
It, right, right?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, yeah, the draft starts at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
The game will starts at do we know what you say?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
We do not know the start time as of right now,
as of two to eleven PM on Wednesday, April sixteen.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
Sunday game which will be home will be a one
o'clock game.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
But do you want to do one o'clock game at
LC on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Do you want to be a six o'clock game on
a Thursday? Kind of I don't want to say last minute,
but kind of last minute? And now what will the
crowd look like? It'll be packed, people barely get off
work by the end.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
You just got to tell your work. Hey man, I'm
going to Pistons, get right.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Not everyone has that type.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Of Well did you see what the Pistons have Speaking
of people who are going to be in the arena,
did you see what the Pistons have done? They've restricted
ticket sales to zip codes that are Michigan, Windsor, Ontario, Canada,
Indiana and Ohio. Because if you notice, and this is

(12:10):
a little bit different playing the Knicks, if you notice
that playoff series in Philadelphia last year, it was a
New York Nick takeover of the Spectrum or wherever they
play now whatever that place I forgot the seventy six. Yeah,
they played, and it was it was. It was entirely

(12:30):
a New York Knick crowd. But for Knicks fans to
go to Philadelphia, it's like nothing. That's like the Detroit
fans going to Cleveland. Uh, if you're playing the Calves
or vice versus, so do you I don't have a
problem with it. I saw a couple of people say
how soft it was, and and this that and the
other thing.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
I do not have a problem with that.

Speaker 9 (12:51):
Here's the NBA getting back a little at the NFL
for Christmas Day. Here's the NBA saying, you know, hey,
this is night man, take a walk, NFL. That just
I'm just throwing a little sidebar there, That's all I mean.
Because they could have had just the ten eleven o'clock
games being played on that Thursday night, which is the
NFL Draft. But then the NFL Draft is Friday too, right,

(13:15):
the NBA has gotta play. It's their playoffs, you got it,
that's their meat. So the NBA has finally set the
hell with the NFL. We're going up against them.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it is. At the
end of the day, is about you know, this is
what happened. This is the time of the year, is
when games are played. We can't we can't take the
time out to restructure our schedule based on what you
guys got going on, So hit the hell with you.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It is what it is. If you guys work, got
it works out. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
What does better numbers? The draft or the Pistons get draft?

Speaker 8 (13:41):
Oh? Draft for sure? Well you know what interesting you
asked that? Okay, rights struck out again. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Nationally, Nationally, the draft will by far surpassed. Yeah, this locally,
it'll be an interesting tell.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm still going with it will still.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Probably be the draft, but I think locally you'll see.
And this is an ESPN game. Oh wait, excuse me,
it's a TNT game. Game one is an ESPN game.
It's a TNT game.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
NFL drafts on ESPN.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, exactly, so you do have two cable networks. But locally,
it'll be interesting to see who does what number.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
I think this.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Town is interested in the Pistons, but I'm not sure
they've caught and I'm not sure the city of Detroit
has caught Pistons fever yet, are you.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
They're getting there?

Speaker 9 (14:31):
But you're right as far as watching him on television,
probably not as much as going to the game. People
are going to LCA to watch the Pistons. Watching on
TV is another story. But it's the playoffs, man, and
I think Detroit is really hungry and ready. This team
is not a pushover. This is a real NBA playoff team,
So I believe. I believe that Detroit will show out

(14:55):
for the Pistons.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
This time.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Detroit shows out for Detroit.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
And I think over the last ten years or so,
whenever Detroit versus everybody got made, Detroit started to step up.
And then last year, since the Lions have been good,
it's going even further. So they will show up and
it will show out. But I still think it will
be the Lions, and I think it will be the NFL.
You know why, It's because when you watch an NBA game,
you don't have to watch the whole game. You don't
have to tune in from the first quarter the second quarter.

(15:19):
You need to tune in around then eight minute third
quarter mark.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
See what really is going on.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Meanwhile, in the NFL draft, it's the optimism. Brad Holmes
is knowing to do what move up in the draft?
So you gotta watch every single is he moving up?

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Now?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
What's on the board? What are they doing? So I
think the what if? The optimism man kind of like
the mystery. I think that's why you were tune into
the draft. I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm looking forward to your mock draft coming up in
just a little bit to it. We're gonna have some
fun with Braylen's mock draft. Field Yates mel Kuiper did
a three. We'll let you know what happened in that
as well. But I'll tell you one of the things
that sucks the life out of the NBA playoffs a

(16:02):
little bit too, is how long in between games. I mean,
the Pistons in the top six seeds, and I know
I do like the play in. Okay, there were a
couple of play in games last night. There'll be a
couple of more tonight, and I do appreciate that. I
think it's good for the game. However, the amount of
time in between games for the Pistons fors is seven

(16:25):
days in between games. You know, you played Sunday and
then you have to wait till Saturday to play again.
That feels like an eternity. That feels like frozen four hockey.
When you win the regional and you go to the
Frozen four, then you gotta wait three or four weeks
before you play in the tournament. I mean that does
pull a little bit of the momentum away from the

(16:48):
excitement of the game. And then even okay, so you
play Saturday, you play Saturday, Well, I guess it's a
Saturday Monday.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Remember in the NBA when they used to play Game
one on Sunday in Game two on Thursday. Remember those days.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
Oh yeah, those are still existing.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think they do exist for a lot of the
Marchine Saturday Thursdays.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
It's greed, and that's what happens when you have greed.
The NBA took it from early. Remember how they used
to do it. That was the sweet spot. The five
five game five in the first round. Yeah, and then five,
then seven and seven, like that's how they used to
do it, but then they got greedy along the way.
What happens when you do that is now it's seven
for every round. It's boring basketball. Now you spread it up.
People forget about it, People forget the games wrong, people

(17:33):
forget the doll into it.

Speaker 8 (17:35):
I think first round should be five.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
The interest isn't even there.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Like they're making money globally, man, but the interest isn't
there in the playoff runs until the end because it's
boring as hell in the Sea long ago.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
Look what baseball does that one drags out the playoffs
every night?

Speaker 11 (17:48):
Ball?

Speaker 9 (17:49):
I mean the World Series after the Championship series was done.
I think it was almost eight nine days before the
World Series, right, And I know they set those things
in stone, but don't you know change it. If a
team sweeps a team and another team sweeps the team,
move the damn days up, right?

Speaker 8 (18:06):
That's all the NBA playoffs? Do you like this?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Play in situation where seven plays eight in a one
game series, So the seventh so whoever wins that game
will be the seventh seed, and then the losing team
has to play the winner of the nine to ten
game to be the eighth seed.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
What did I say yesterday? You weren't here, right? What
did I say about the Atlanta Hawks to you?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So irrelevant? Irrelevant organization was inconsequent contracted?

Speaker 8 (18:39):
They lost by twenty five. They suck.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
They've always sucked. Look how old I have They've sucked
since I was a little boy.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, I was a little boy. I'm a little shocked
by Atlanta and they lost one twenty to ninety five
last night to Orlando. So Orlando will be the seventh seed.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
The thing with Atlanta, just a couple of years ago,
they were in the Eastern Conference Finals with a young
point guard by the name of Trey Young, who has
gotten worse, He who has regressed, who has gotten frustrated.
I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if he
is on the move this year. You know that is
a player that led a franchise to the verge of

(19:21):
the NBA Finals, And you're like, okay, with this bright,
young squad in Atlanta, you know they're going to add
pieces and move up. They have completely gone down. Atlanta
is a team an organization in the Eastern Conference that
I am just kind of shocked by how bad they
have gotten.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean when they got there a couple of
years ago, spinning. I'm gonna come to you after this.
When they got there a couple of years ago, you
get there, you get there. Okay, there's no such thing
as look, but you can't get helped. They came against
some injured teams, and the Celtics crumbled, the Philadelphia seventy
six ers, everybody, they crumbled. They got there, but ever
since then, like massive, they're irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
They always been in relevance. So you know what that
tells me. It's an owner and it's in the front office.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
They don't know what they're doing. Hey, let's get rid
of Cam Redders. Hey, let's bring in John Collins. Hey,
let's get rid of John Collins. Hey, let's bring in uh,
what was Javonte Murray. Let's get rid of Javonte Murray.
They don't know what they want to do. I guarante
every year, every year Trey Young balls out.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But every year it's.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
A new landscape, it's a new team.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So yeah, he's.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Frustrated, and I'm not making excuses, but I'd be frustrated
too if I played for the Hawks.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I guarantee you that one person in this room could
name one player on the Atlanta Hawks starting five outside
of Trey Young.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I couldn't either. I couldn't either. But but that's
what I'm saying. Like you talk about like John Collins
and these guys that they went to the Eastern Conference
finals with, and hell even Dennis last year, right, Dennis
Shrewder was on that team, you know what I mean,
like players that.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
They've had some great players, but that's it.

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Yeah, it started with Maravich, goes to Dominique, spud Web,
go on and on, but they don't ever, they don't
ever have a really good team Tree Rollins when I
was younger, this is a worthless franchise.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So Atlanta will play the winner of tonight's heat Bulls game,
and the winner of that game will get the eighth seed.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Though, Okay, guys, remember Atlanta essentially traded Luka Dacic for
Trey Young, ye, which is that's where it started.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
I mean, that's a great point.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
It starts at the root, right, the root cause of
your disease. One used to play the omni. Oh yeah,
that's a right. That's where Dominique's in the West. The
Warriors will be the seventh seed in the West. They
beat the Grizzlies one sixteen. Step A lot of people

(21:48):
believe that the Warriors are the sexy pick to come
out of the Western Conference. You say, you say, listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Three things happened last night, and I was right about
two of them. You ready to hear it. I said
that the Warriors will win.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I said, the Memphis John Morant, they're better team, younger,
more hungry. I said, Steph can only do so much.
Jimmy Butler can only do so much. Last night, mass
your Warriors won. They definitely wont. But everything I said
came true.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
Jimmy buckets man chivvy playoffs.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
But it goes back to two things. One, remember I said,
how the intensity changes in the playoffs is different. Look
at Jimmy in the playoffs. That's what the conversation I
was having about the Nicks and the Pistons originally, the
intensity changes. Jimmy found at thirty eight, Steph found thirty seven.
Nobody else could score John Morant. John Moran's last five
games mass his last five games thirty three.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Excuse real, Matt, it was I had it bring.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Us six, thirty six, thirty twenty eight, thirty six, thirty four,
thirty one. Those were his last and twenty one. Those
were his last games. Last night he had twenty two
in a row.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Ankle.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
It took them to have seventy three points to beat
the Memphis Grizzlies by five. I hear you, by five.
Memphis played. They were a better team last night.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
There's just last in the West.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
There's some good series in the West though.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Well, no, because they had seventy three. They're not scoring
seventy three every time. If you scored seventy three, play
somebody else. They're playing the Houston Rockets. Next to the
coach by imy Udoka. You can have seventy three points,
it's not gonna beat them. Can you do that every night?
What is Moses Moody.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Gonna give you?

Speaker 8 (23:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Last night was nothing. They bench John Dean kaminga who's
their most athletic player. There are two man team, like
you said exactly, so, yes, you were right, they won,
But I stand firm one they won.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, the refs gave them eighty nine thousand calls too.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
There is some fun series in the West though, Rockets
and Golden State, Great Lakers, Timberwolves, Great Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
To me is this is this is his.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Opportunity to shine against Lebron James and a good matchup
for the Lakers as well. That's gonna be a good series.
And Denver and the Clippers. I think those are two
soidelid teams. Denver the Clippers surprised the hell out of
me this year. They played really good basketball. And then okay,
see what is okay? See they'll play the winner of
the playing game, you know, Memphis versus whoever? Yeah, Dallas

(24:16):
and that Kings and Mavericks. Yeah, if Dallas wins, you
know they got a shot. No, no, they won't win
with what with Kings Obi ad ad.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Doesn't even have a foothold. He has no rhythm, no consistency.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
He's whispering and Jason Kidd after every play man, they won't.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Give me the ball because they won't.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
I guess Kyrie is not in.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Okay, fine, but okay, season intriguing team to me, that's
the number one seed. Yes they have the m v P,
but are they are they gonna go. Are they gonna
roll through you know, the Nuggets, the Lakers, you know,
and then ultimately the Celtics or Calves.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
We'll see who is who is okay spinning with without
s g A because a million dollar.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Quests without SGA, that's a tough question.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
But they have an insane amount of perimeter defense when
you look at Loudor and Jalen Williams and all those
guys that they can throw out on the outside.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
So they match up.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Pretty well with teams like the Lakers and like the
Clippers because they have multiple bodies that they can throw
on these wings and on these perimeter scores that those
other teams have. I think, Okay, see, all it comes
down to is they're young. They're really young. So if
you go up against a team like the Lakers, who
has obviously Lebron James, and you have Luka Dangicch who
just made the finals last year and he's been in
the playoffs for a while, that is something that you're

(25:33):
gonna have to overcomes the youth. But they're the most
talented team in the league right now, and I think
they've shown it all year.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Would scare me Ryan is when they played the Lakers.
Talking about that same OKC team when they play them,
and everybody knows the game I'm talking about. They made
shutting down SGA look very and the rest of the team,
and I know what to do with that.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I gotta pay attention to that.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Let's see if SGA still has that same foul call
in the playoffs, because that's where he makes his money.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's a good good.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, they hat the whistle a little bit the postseason.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You know, when your team is good, you pay attention
to that league a little bit more, don't you? Or
Am I the only one? Like I paid attention to
more NBA this year.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
It's like scouting tape.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I paid attention to more NBA this year than I
have in years past.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
For sure. I just really, I'm literally just paying attention
to the Pistols.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Really, if I had the better team coming out of
the West, I'm taking the Lakers absolutely.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
No doubt. I agree with Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I agree with you because I was gonna say, no,
I don't do that because I watched basketball regardless, I
watch football regardless. I've been watching the hell out of
some baseball and hockey because of so I agree with.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, in football is a sport that stands on its own.
I watched the baseball games. I'm not just watching the times.
I want to see what are minus the White Sox?
But what are the Guardians doing? What are the Brewers doing?
We're not playing them?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
What are they doing? Chris, Get guys, We're gonna take
a break. When we come back, we're gonna be joined
by Mark Champion, played by play voice for the Detroit
Pistons on the radio side of things, getting excited for
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Money and Edwards with Mass Woodward Sports Network. Just so
people out there understand my love for this guy. I
texted Mass today, I said, Maz, I want to talk
a little Pistons basketball. Who's the first guy asked you
for MC? And here he is right now, Mark Champion
on the line with us, Mark Champion talking Pillions basketball.

(30:58):
How you doing, my friend?

Speaker 14 (31:01):
Very well? Very kind of you to say those words.
I appreciate that we mean.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It well, absolutely we mean it. And it's going to
be so fun to hear your voice on a Pistons
playoff basketball game. Yeah, Mark, let me take a step
back here, big picture, fourteen wins last year. I'm not
sure anybody expected this. How did this come to be?

(31:27):
I mean, they're the first team in the history of
the NBA to triple their wins from a year ago.
This has been an incredible season.

Speaker 10 (31:36):
Well it has. You know.

Speaker 14 (31:38):
I went along and I said, Okay, is this team
for real? Is this team for real? Is this team
for real? And it got to about January, mid January,
and I said, yes, they're for real. And you know,
the interesting thing is that GB made a comment on
one of the press briefings prior to a game. They said,
you know, when I took this job, it wasn't like

(31:58):
the cupboard was bare. So there was talent there, and
we're seeing that talent develop. I think what they did
is they brought in the right coach for the right team.
They brought in Trajan Langdon, who has done a terrific job,
in particular bringing in the right veteran players like Tobias
Harris and Tim Hardaway Junior and Malik Beasley and most

(32:20):
recently did a shrewder.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And you know, when you have those veteran players like
that What did that mean to a guy like Kate
Cunningham and his development, because without that veteran presence, I'm
not sure Cad is as good as he has been
this year. Just the ability to be an MVP type candidate.
Those veterans really had an impact on him, did they not?

Speaker 14 (32:47):
Well, they did from a leadership standpoint. Now Kate is
a leader as well, but again he's still very young,
and so it helped to have Tobias and Tim who
have been through the wars and that was going through
adding up all of their playoff appearances and obviously that's
going to be very helpful in this series against New York.

(33:07):
Cage still hasn't had a playoff game, so this will
be new for him. And yeah, I think the veteran
players help him out a great deal, but he's also
gotten better. I mean, he is a bona fide all
NBA type player and I would be shocked if he
wasn't on one of the top three teams.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Talk more about Kate for a second, mark because I
think when everybody is going through this who's the next
face of the league conversation? What do you think this
stage means? At Madison Square Garden in round one. How
far could this series go to introduce Kate Cunningham to
not only the basketball world but the world in general.

Speaker 14 (33:50):
Well, I think he's already been introduced. I don't think
this playoff series will either enforce it or decline in
his national presence. He's already on a national stage and
it's only going to get better. Sure, a playoff series
win would be absolutely phenomenal for this team and would

(34:12):
cap off what they have done. But it's not gonna
be easy, even though they beat the next three out
of four of the regular season. But now we're in
the playoffs, so it's a whole new animal again. I
harken back. That is why guys like Harris and Hardaway
and Beasley and shrewder all are so important now to
get through these young fellas. That the playoffs are a

(34:32):
whole different animal.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Mark, always good to talk to you, brother, that was here.
Can you expound on that a little bit, because I
talk about the playoff intends a lot. I talk about
how it changes in terms of the nuances. Explain how
the playoffs changes, especially for a young team the Detroit Pistons.

Speaker 14 (34:50):
Well, it gets serious. That's number one guys. You know,
it's they don't take a quarter off or a game off.
It's every game and they're going at it one hundred percent,
and the officials let them play a little bit. I
was watching the game last night, and even though both
teams got to the free throw line a lot, I
still thought they allowed some physicality in that game. And

(35:12):
that's beneficial to the Pistons, probably to New York as well,
but certainly to the Pistons. And it's just the intensity level.
You can't take a you can't take a playoff. And
it's going to be fun to see how these guys react,
especially when the Knicks come out. The Garden's going to
be nuts, as you know, mas Nos, and it's going

(35:33):
to be one of those where they come out in
the first quarter and hope not to get hit up
the side of the head by a sledgehammer.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yep. I was saying that MC.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
I think the Pistons need game one, and I want
them to come out and really play their best game.
And I know they always come out and they hustle,
and I think they allowed to hustle the next I
think they're the Knicks of last year actually, and I
think the knicks and missing something, and I know they
made that trade for kat. I don't think they're the
same team as they were last year. But getting back
to the Pistons as well as they've played now you

(36:02):
got Jade and Ivy starting to get healthy. Do you
see him getting minutes in this series right away? Or
do you think they play what they have?

Speaker 10 (36:14):
I one hundred percent don't know. I would doubt it.
I would doubt it.

Speaker 14 (36:19):
I mean, they announced, what was it about a week ago,
they were starting to ramp up, but that didn't mean
you know, heavy basketball. That just meant the track to
get back to where he needs to be. But I
would doubt it. But again, the bottom line is, I
don't know.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
And as far as the coaches go, I mean from
last year to this year. Sure they make those veteran
additions this year, but what has JB. Bickerstaff done that
they failed Last year? They hired a guy in Monty
Williams who was a gentleman's gentleman, but he really did
not want to be here, and it showed.

Speaker 14 (36:54):
Well, I don't know that he didn't want to be here,
but I do know that for whatever reason, it just
got out of hand and they just couldn't stop the slide.
They were in every game. I mean it came down well,
they probably could have won thirty games, but they just
didn't get it to the finish line.

Speaker 10 (37:12):
And Jab came in here.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
Number one.

Speaker 14 (37:13):
He wanted defense, and the players who bought into that,
I say, as Stewart has bought into coming off the bench,
being the energy guy, coming off the bench to play defense.
And everybody has gotten better defensively, so that's a huge factor.
And then when Tom Gorris made the move and brought
in Trajan Langdon and JB he wanted everybody to be

(37:35):
on the same page, and I don't think that was
the case in the previous year. So now everyone is
working on the same page. They agree with what's going on,
and I think that's helped out.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Let me ask you about two players that I just
truly enjoyed. I think their selling is very high, Jalen
dor and Nasar Thompson. I want to start with Asar Thompson.
I love that in fact that he plays on both
sides of the court. He's offense defensive. He's just a
guy that I think, like I just said, the silling,
it could be a lot there and you go, which
his brother was able to make the transition fast in Houston.
Since he's been with the Clap, I feel like he's

(38:10):
getting it going man like talk about a sorry times
and what can he be with this Detroit Pistons team.

Speaker 14 (38:15):
The thing that has been impressive about him as he
missed so much time because of the blood clut issue
and his brother and men kept playing and has gotten
better and better and A Sara is caught up pretty good.
If you look at their numbers, they're very similar.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Now.

Speaker 14 (38:31):
Men may be slightly better offensively, but Asar is sixth
in the league and steals per game. Now, his deflections
he's in the top ten and deflections in a game,
which is a statue go well, that's well, that's a
very important stat So defensively he's terrific and he's getting
better offensively and he'll continue to do that. Certainly in

(38:53):
the offseason he'll be working very, very hard to improve
his offensive game. But he's meant an awful lot. If
you look at the Pistons record with a star in
the starting lineup, it's above five hundred.

Speaker 10 (39:05):
It's really good. And so he's he's.

Speaker 14 (39:09):
Been terrific and JD. I mean, j D is another
guy who has stepped up big time. And you know,
it's interesting. He has a little twelve to fifteen foot shot.
He doesn't take it much, but he's got it, and
I've seen him in pregame warm ups and he makes them,
and I think that eventually he will put that.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
Into his game.

Speaker 14 (39:30):
Right now, it's the lob dunks and the putbacks and
that sort of thing, but I think you're going to
see him develop a little bit of a twelve foot shot.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Last question for me, MC, I appreciate that Malik Beasley. Now,
I don't want to talk about the future because right
here in the present, but I can't. I guess because
I can do that, Malik Besy, do the Pistons keep him?
You know, this is a great year for him. A
lot of people love him, Milik Threezley, everybody's excited about it.
But do the Pistons pay him, bring him back his team?

Speaker 14 (40:01):
Well, that's about my pay grades, So I don't know it.

Speaker 10 (40:06):
I don't know. I hope.

Speaker 14 (40:07):
So I love Malik Beasley and obviously he's had a
career season for him, and I hope he stays because
he has meant a lot. He wants to stay, but
it all comes down to a business decision. So we'll
see what they do, but I'll leave that to Trajan.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Kind of along that same line, though, You know, whether
it's Malik Beasley or Dennis Shrewder, or Tobias Harris or
even Tim Hardaway Junior, these guys that come here, they
look like they're having so much fun. We talk about
the culture with the Lions all the time, what Bickerstaff
and Langdon have created here. It looks so fun. When

(40:50):
I watch the Pistons, it looks like a team that
likes each other, that is having fun together, and I
think that's a very dangerous team. You're around these guys
every day. How much fun are they having?

Speaker 14 (41:05):
Well, the chemistry is fantastic, and for whatever reason, in
the NBA, the chemistry means an awful lot. I mean,
we've seen teams who have stacked their rosters and they
don't perform that well. They don't win a championship, they
don't get close to it because the players, for whatever reason,
don't match up. This team does they like each other?
They like being around each other. You mentioned good time, Yeah,

(41:28):
they do. They have a great time and a lot
of that is JB. A lot of that is Trajan
putting the right players together. He knew how important that was.
So chemistry means so much. And it was interesting when
they brought in Dennis Shrewder. You want, okay, well, how's
this going to affect the chemistry? He stepped right in

(41:49):
and he couldn't believe it. I mean, he couldn't believe
how much togetherness was there. And he just loved that.
And you know, his play has been terrific and so yeah,
and I hope it continues.

Speaker 10 (42:01):
I mean, you know, the four team at great.

Speaker 14 (42:03):
Chemistry as well at great chemistry, and you know, go
back to the Bad Boys days.

Speaker 10 (42:09):
Great chemistry.

Speaker 14 (42:10):
Now, you had some strong individuals there, certainly like Bill
Lambert and Zeke and but they still had a good chemistry.

Speaker 10 (42:17):
So it's it's so important in this league when.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
You go back.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean, there's a lot of people now that look
at the Pistons and you want to mirror it towards
a former Piston championship team. Do you think this team
reminds or will remind Pistons fans more of the bad
Boys Pistons or more of the going to work Pistons.

Speaker 10 (42:38):
Maybe a combination.

Speaker 14 (42:39):
I don't think they want to be labeled as you know,
bad boys two point h or four going to work
two point oh. They want to establish their own identity.
Now they do have some of the four, they have
some of the bad boys or Isaiah Stuart and the

(43:02):
four team and the leadership with with Kate Cunningham and
Blake Beasley.

Speaker 10 (43:08):
And those types. So a little bit of both.

Speaker 14 (43:10):
But I think you're going to see them establish themselves
as the seasons roll on.

Speaker 10 (43:16):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 14 (43:17):
I mean, this team is so young. You know, we
got what four veterans there, and but this team is
still extremely young, and so they've got a lot of
years left.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Mark, appreciate you joining us so much money despite ser
fans for being here. I just had a question about
Sir Isaiah Stewart and his temperament. We know that is
a big thing going into this series. How important he
is the best rent protector in the NBA when you
look at what he has to do to stay in
this series and stay in the games, because if he
gets ejected, he's going to get suspended for another game

(43:50):
because his technical limit. We saw that happen with Raymond.
I don't think finals.

Speaker 10 (43:55):
I don't think. I'm not sure that carries over.

Speaker 14 (43:57):
And have to look, I'm not one hundred percent certain
that I don't think it does.

Speaker 10 (44:00):
I don't think it carries over. But uh, yeah he does.
I mean I think he.

Speaker 14 (44:05):
Understands it and uh and he you know, works on that.
But he they don't want him to become mild mannered,
you know, Clark Kent know, they still they still like
him the way he is. But he's just got to
learn when to back off. And I think his teammates
will help him in that area. And you know this
series is going to be physical, there's no question. So

(44:26):
you know, we'll see how he does it. But they
got to keep him on the floor because he means
so much to this team in rim protection. I mean,
we saw that in the couple of games that he
missed that they they were affected by it. So yeah,
he's got to stay out there. Hey, before you boot
me aside. Uh, it's kind of a shout out. But

(44:47):
can I mentioned something?

Speaker 8 (44:49):
Of course, Larry.

Speaker 14 (44:52):
Henry passed away about a week ago. Yeah, the l
train and I hired Larry uh at w w J
when I was sports director, and I hired him to
do Michigan sports on that station. At that time, there
were two stations carrying Michigan. And so I've known Larry

(45:12):
for a long time and he is a fantastic, fantastic
play by play voice, really big time, and you know,
for whatever reason, he didn't pursue it beyond beyond here,
but just wanted to send out our prayers to his
family and and uh say, we're going to miss him.

Speaker 10 (45:30):
It was a shock.

Speaker 14 (45:31):
I didn't know anything about it until I saw it
in the paper, and so, uh so we'll miss the
l train.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
He was quite the individual, he sure was.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I met him at m I S and just such
a gentleman though, like you know, I mean what a
gentleman I was internal, no huge voice. I always gauged
the guys like if they do how they treat the interns,
you know, and uh and he was just such a gentleman.

(46:05):
I did not I was not aware of that.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I'm sorry to hear that news.

Speaker 14 (46:09):
Yeah, it's really it was a shock to me when
I saw it. And I don't know any of the
details on it or he was seventy three years old.
Just to you guy, you know, to.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Me, hey, God, bless a mc, I need you to
give me a prediction. Wait, you're not going anywhere on
the piss is going to win this series?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yes, yeah, always good to see you can go.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Mark, Thanks time, my friend. We appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (46:39):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Guys, got it awesome the great Mark Champion and I
legend absolutely in this city just to get his take
on Piston's necks. And it is fun because I think
a lot of the national people.

Speaker 8 (46:54):
Won't even know what hit him.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
If you saw they all pick the knicks, all seven
experts are whatever it was out of SPI and picked
then over the Pistons. And you get that, you understand that,
But I just don't know if they know what they're
in store for. You know, I think the Pistons are
gonna punch them in the mouth Game one.

Speaker 8 (47:12):
Me too, you know me too.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
They're definitely gonna punch them out.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I hope we don't get any interference from the reps.
I think the Pistons can take Game one. It's gonna
be exciting. I just love seeing Mark man. I got
a funny story I told you about the broadcast boot
Camp Store Broadcast boot Camp NFL.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
They allow former.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Players and current players a chance to go to the
broadcast boot camp, either in Pennsylvania or in Ohio. I
definitely didn't choose Bowling Greens, but anyway, when I went,
they allow you to learn the space of media. You
can do interviews, you can do color, you can do radio.
So I was doing color. Mark Champion was the color guy.
So I'm excited, even though I didn't know I was
gonna do color. When I got it, I'm excited. And yeah,

(47:50):
Robert Kowski on this play you could have and like
Mark's like, you can't see it on the screen. He's
like tapping like my pant leg but he's tapping like
on the rhythm with the mccaden's.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I'm like, oh, he's telling me to slow down. It
was the smoothest thing ever. Didn't work, but I knew
he was trying to.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
I mean Rick ma'horn man him and Rick mahorn, they're
very funny. Lindsey Hunter has done some games this year.
It's done a great job. It's always great to hear
him and loved him as the Lions played by play
with Jim Brandstatter, and that was they set. They set
the bar high man and Dan Miller's picked it right
up from there.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Holy Macrol, Holy mackerel, can't believe.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
There's a lot of excitement surrounding this organization. And you
know you mentioned Malik Beasley, and uh it's you almost
you almost have to bring a guy like that back, right,
I mean you almost have to because of what Mark
just said. Team chemistry. Chemistry means a lot in the NBA,

(48:46):
It just does. And I think he's one of those
glue guys. He is absolutely a glue guy. And of course, look,
this team revolves around Caid, but Caid is allowed to
have the floor space he's allowed to have because what
Beasley and what Beasley specifically, the threat that he is

(49:08):
from downtown.

Speaker 8 (49:10):
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You got to reward that. You gotta pay that. Just
like the Lions reward their own. Let's see the Pistons
reward their own. Now, re sign Malik Beasley and go
on a little bit of a run here.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
First player, oh sorry, oh, first player in the history
of the NBA to hit three hundred and three pointers
off the bench.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
Ever, nobody's ever done it.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
And like remember at the trade deadline, he walked up
to Trajan Langdon and said, don't trade me.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
I want to be here Spenning.

Speaker 8 (49:35):
I think that matters.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I think that absolutely matters to an organization, especially when
twelve months ago, I'm not sure anybody in the NBA
or anybody on the Pistons wanted to be on the Pistons. Nope,
that's twelve months ago. Yeah, that's look what this turnaround
has become. Guys now want to be here, right.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
I think that is just remarkable.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, I think it's remarkable as well.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I asked that question though, because just like whenever you're
talking about getting a player in, it's just not what
that player does on the court. There's a little bit
off the court things going on there in midigame factors
that the Pistons are checking into from before the time
he got here.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
How is that gonna be? How was he going to be?

Speaker 8 (50:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (50:16):
He's been everything good this season. But then the conversation
comes money, and that's what you get to. So Malik
Beezy is a guy that they have to keep. You
got stars around case the star, just like SGA is
the guy. But around SGA you got lou Dort, you
got JJ, you have Chick, you got guys that can
play the game, and that's what you need out of
Malik Beezy, like, you have to have this guy on

(50:38):
your team. He's the best shooter on this team.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Hey, couple super chats. I want to get him in burn.
Earlier today we were talking to a little tigers. He says,
say a prayer or a chant, whatever you gotta do
so we can exercise whatever evil has struck the Tiger
bats these hard hit balls. Dying is just not Since then,
Torque has hit a home run, and Riley Green has
struck out two more times, and.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
Freddie Felt hob he's two for three.

Speaker 8 (51:01):
Freddie Felt Hobby two hits.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I told her he was gonna hit three hundred.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
He wants Freddie Felt wants you to read his super chat. Okay,
he wants Brailan to read his super chat. Go to
go to go to the super chat. You know how
he wants to wait for this. You know how he
wants you to read it too. So I don't see it.

Speaker 10 (51:18):
I already know how he wants them to read it.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Oh my god, I already know it has it has
to do with Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
Oh yeah, he wants you to I thought he want
you to do an O m G watching a Tiger game.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
That's Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I got I gotta stop doing this because I once
the video get out there, they don't have this.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Is this the last time I'll be able to do
this for you guys? Where's it? Where's the Tigers? Where's
the TV? There's a TV to the left, right, like,
this is it tigers? Oh my gosh, Jesus, there you go.
That's very very much.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
He asked about you in media.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
God, yes, like what, Oh my god, I know it's
a seven foot one light skin over exaggerated Cali girl.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Like what happened to the new from Kentucky? No, he
wasn't hardcore, but like he didn't talk like that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Oh my gosh, that is fantastic.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
Uh asked.

Speaker 9 (52:13):
I want to ask Mark who he thought was gonna
win the NBA Championship.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
But you know, besides the Pistons, I was gonna ask him.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
You always put those guys on spire. You know, he
can't say anything.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
You know, let's just say that in the East right now,
who is as it stands?

Speaker 8 (52:29):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Go around the room. Who's your NBA final right now?

Speaker 8 (52:35):
I mean, is it?

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Lakers and something again, magic.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Bird, Kats Lakers.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
It would make me. It would make me.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Kat's Lakers box office.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Lebron crushing the hearts of all young Cleveland fans winning
another for the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I will say this though dead in Los Angeles Houston
Rockets series?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Did you know?

Speaker 8 (52:59):
I may?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You don't?

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Again, Lebron, do not like each other?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Well, what is it better? What is the best final
for the n b A Boston l A? Is it
Boston l A? Or I disagree Cleveland in l A.
I disagree with that.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
Well, it's not great for me either way. You just
said it. If LA is in it, I'm gonna just
puke because I cannot Waitron. I can't wait till he retired.
You know what, I love it. I love your hatred
the best. I hate him.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Here's the best? Okay, see in New York.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Okay, See in New York would be the best because
one you get New York back to the finals. They
are even though you only have two championships, they are
one of the premier brands.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
You get them back. No one on that team is
one Brunton. It will be his first time, Cat, it
will be his first time and everybody else and then
you got s G A and and and the band
of young misfits. This is where the NBA is going.
This is what the NBA is.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
The reason I asked is because super Bowl viewing up?
Uh Final four? Up, Masters, up, Daytona five hundred up.
Now we go to the NBA. Well, I mean, but
I'm just talking about Championship weekend. Now you move to
the NBA finals, Like, what what makes the NBA finals? Also?

(54:21):
Stay along that track where you say up next Lakers,
nixt Lakers. That absolutely, you know a New York even
Boston Lakers, Boston Lakers.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
I mean they haven't but I think the Knicks with
the they're the mecca of basketball. You know, everybody loves
basketball there. They like Braylan said, they haven't been to
the finals in so long.

Speaker 7 (54:43):
I think they could sell.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I would want them in just to watch the court side.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I want to watch. Ask your dumb question, at what
point do we stop caring about the New York Knicks
and Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
Honestly, you're looking at the guy. Man, you're looking at me.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
You were eleven, You were eleven years old, eleven the
last time the Knicks were a championship team. Tom Masway
was eleven years old. He's a sixty two year old man, right,
sixty three year old man right now. So, I mean,
you're talking fifty two years since they won a championship.
At what point did we start, Oh, why don't we

(55:28):
call the Staples Center of the Mecca.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
It's not because it's not like massive square gardens. Even
before the Knicks, it was the Mecca. Cryptos just happened
to play there and then it became the team. So
it's every the Knicks get the they get the benefit
of having Muhammad Ali as a nick, the concerts as
a nick, MSG as a nick.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
It's everything encompassing is a New York Knicks.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Like when you go there, it's everything, like that's what
it is.

Speaker 9 (55:55):
It's the organ, that's the look at a place that's
all like a the seventh floor of a building. I mean,
it's a it's amazing. It's an amazing building. It's in
Penn Station with a subway and the people are all that.
It's just a it's just a happening place. It's just
a happening place.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
It's also too when you come back.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
You know, that's one of my favorite things when you're
watching games, you come back and you show a city skate.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
It's New York, It's Manhattan.

Speaker 8 (56:20):
I love New York.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Before I played for.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
The Jet Sin Arena, sitting in the middle of all
those big buildings.

Speaker 9 (56:24):
It's it's thirty thirty second man.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
Well, all right, New York.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
He was finny jumped in on it.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Like I think of basketball and I think of the Lakers,
I think of the Bulls, I think of the Celtics,
I think of anybody.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
But the next what if it was still at the
form it could compare yea, then it could compare the
building itself.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
But again, have you not to belabor the point? Not
to belabor the point? Have you got I've never been
of the garden. Now it's place I'd like to go.
I have to go. I understand I've never been to
the Garden, But the building itself is fine. But when's
the last time meaningful basketball has been played after? You know?

Speaker 8 (57:12):
Yeah? I mean ninety four?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yeah, you know, I mean that was thirty years ago.
Those nick teams should have won to me. But to me,
nineteen ninety four feels like it was yesterday. But it
was thirty freaking years ago.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
I was getting born yet Yeah, you know, I mean.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
You missed a good thing. I spent I oh Jay,
and the next that one.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
And you know I like the Knicks, man, I know
you do.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Well. I just wanted to share that paid Braylen mock draft.
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
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All right, Hour number two of the program, Ryan and Moni,
Braylan Edwards, tom Asway. We got Ricky Burns in here
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Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
Spenny.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Pleasure's online doing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
A bang up job. Pete is out today. Let Pete cook.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
Pete's tilting right now. He's what tilty?

Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
What's that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
You play? You never played pinball? You never tilted. I
don't know what that means. Like when you're shaking the machine.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
I played pinball. I don't know the vernacular.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Taking what you shake the machine to try to get
the ball to Sometimes it's an alert that says tilt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I know, I shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Get real good.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Oh my gosh, that's great. All right, bray Let's get
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Uh, you put some work in and you have a
box draft walking through what you did here?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
All right, Look, I did a little bit of work.
I got tired of people saying, well, who would you
drafted me saying, well, you know drafted. No, did some homework.
I know we need a defensive line presence. I want
an edge rusher. I did some homework and I found
a guy that I like. The only question was how
can the Lions get this guy? How could they move up?
So I got a mock draft that features a trade

(01:02:10):
by the Detroit Lions. So what we'll do is we'll
just start with the top of the draft, and when
we get to where the Lions have made this trade,
I'll break down that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Trade and we'll talk about that player. So put up
the mock draft, spin mo racks if you will, without
giving away number fifteen. Is there a way to do that?

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
I got it right here?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
My guy that here we go. Oh oh, look at
this guy right here. So here we go. This is
the top ten in the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
This is now. I have to put this out there.
I didn't do all this by myself. I had the
help of Gemini. I put in the player that I wanted.
It's Ai, by the way, I put in the player
that I wanted, what I wanted to do, where I
want that player to go, how far I was willing
to go up and then this is what they gave me.
So number one with Becam Ward, that's not changing anytime soon.

(01:02:56):
A duel Carter at two, Travis Hunter goes to New York.
In this one, Will Campbell now comes up. The offensive
talk from ls U comes up to three. I took,
I mean have four. That's what they need to protect
Drake May Mason Graham for you right there at five,
you thinking about Mason Graham going.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I mean that is I mean, aside from Cam Wore
going Number one. That is the pick that has been
so solid and consistent throughout every mock draft. They let
one Michigan guy go Jacksonville did and Aiden Hutchinson passed
him over. They will not let this Michigan defensive lineman
be passed over. It that is the pick there at five.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I knew I can get the Michigan slam and to
give me some good information that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I can't believe that I'm looking at it. Number eight,
my eyes are glued. I don't even know if you
have to do that's happening.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
All right, here we go go to it. Then at
number eight, should doure Sanders of the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Fact that this is the best mock draft I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
We skipped over to ashid Gent by the way with
the Raiders, but this is more interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
You're excited Ryan that you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I mean, I, first of all quarterback dress.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
I want to do a drug.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Test and alcohol test, all psychological evaluation tests. If if
the Atlanta Falcons take Shador standers at eight, I will
do a day of this show naked nosult like that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
I mean, but not that much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
There is no I am that confident that the Atlanta
Falcons will not take Shad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
And doesn't have so I mean, but let me ask
you why not? But but why not?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Well, they have Michael Pennix, that's number one, and they
still do have Kirk Cousins on their roster. And I
don't think Shador wants to go to a place where
he's not going to start right away.

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
Maybe they're taking him to trade.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Him they.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
I'm just saying, maybe, hey, I know something.

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
Atlanta takes them. They hold him for ransom, the Giants
give them a call. Not the thing about the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
You take him and you trade full State farms. I
have to read full State Farms, okay. And the door
to Atlanta is the reason I can't take this serious.
I can't take this channel seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
The comment it was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I knew that won't be a lot of fun at
the end of the day, that trade, that move won't happen.
But I guarantee a lot of this other stuff is real,
and I like to pick that I have, but it
is fun to think about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
It's entertainment, right first, that is funny.

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
Who would get fired first?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Michael Pennix, Arthur Blank.

Speaker 9 (01:05:47):
Author Blank would have a corner, right. He's a great owner,
a great having fun on him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Ay Green says, Ryan, you're really gonna have the older
ladies going crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Wife, You're gonna get pissed. Though.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I think I'll be fine. I think I'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
All right, put up the last five spence and we'll
get to the Lions and then I will cover.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
There is Quinnywers quarterback. There you go. That's another one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Oh man, this is great, it is great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
But just go to fifteen now and I'll read you
why I want Jay lion Walker to be member of
the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Jay Lin Walker. There it is to pick Georgia bull Dogs.
You know what they've done. I'll read a little bit
about him him In order for this to work, the
Los Angeles Rams will see the twenty eighth pick of
twenty twenty five third round ninety and then the twenty
twenty six second round picked. The reason for the trade.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
The Detroit Lions, coming off the successful season, identify potential
blue chip defensive lineman and Jalen Walker from Georgia who
was slipping down the board.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
They believe he has.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Potential to be a game record long term partner for
eight and Huncheon defensive line. What has Georgia done on
the defensive side in the last five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Six One word dominate, dominate tray Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Tray Scott has been the defensive line coach since twenty sixteen.
He was the defensive line coach for Jordan Davis. He
was defensive line coach for Trayvon Walker, who I think
would be a better player with a better defensive coordinator.
No pluying team last year. Michel Williams, who's also racing
up the board, coach him too. Nikobe Dean, Now you
go to Glenn Schuman, the defensive court nator himself. He's

(01:07:28):
been there five years. You see what he's done with
these defensive players. Kirby Smart is a understudy of who
Nick Saban. How many players of his have we gotten?
What I'm telling you is that these Georgia players they hit.
Let just ask the Eagles about how those players work.
This is the next guy you need an edge rusher.
You don't need another Aden Hutchinson. I know he's six
to two, a little undersized, two hundred and sixty pounds.

(01:07:51):
Reminds me of Elvis Dumerville played against him. I know
you heard that name. Man six Saxson one game. Dwight
Freeney has another name that comes to.

Speaker 8 (01:08:00):
Size.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Long guy strong, knows how he use his arms at
the point of attack. They move him around kind of
like Michael Parsons a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I love the fact that his leverage allows him to
get up under those left tackles.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
This is the guy that I want. You need an
edge rusher whose job is to see quarterback, go get quarterback.
I don't care about the run game, I don't care
about anything else. See quarterback, get quarterback. Jaylon Walker is
the guy that I want.

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
I see you got the Eagles moving up to get
Mike hal Williams from Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Well they probably do that as well.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
And Eagles.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
First of all, the Eagles scare me more than any team.
The Eagles scare me in this draft more than any team.
Every time. I every time they make a pick, it's gold.
It don't matter where they are in the draft. Howie Roseman,
I don't know. Man, he's like a snake charmer. He
made a deal with the devil, the witch doctor.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
Honestly, he doesn't. They don't.

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
They don't make mistakes. They get guys late in the
draft and in the second round that have become all
pros within a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Year, and then they win the Super Bowl, go out
make trades to silidify their squads or free Asian sidings.
They do AJ Green or AJ Brown a couple of
years ago and then say quad Ajbrupplement.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
I'm telling you there could be some There could be
some wide receivers traded in this draft, and one of
them could be Jamison Williams. And I know we talked
about it a little, but I'm telling you I smell
a rat.

Speaker 8 (01:09:22):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I don't dismiss anything at all, but I do believe
that the wide receiver position feels as expendable. There's so
many good wide receivers in the game today. Why I don't,
I don't know, but it feels like it feels like

(01:09:43):
the game currently has more I'll use this word, brailen
great wide receivers as a whole than at any point
in a long time. Everybody's got at least one. Most
teams have two.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
It's the same as it was I think back in
the day. I think now it's just different. If the
focus is on how they use them, yes, it's how
they use them. The focuses on the past game. Everything
is passing, so every team is gonna have you know,
four or five up. He'son not four, but you know
three four receivers, and everything is predicting the passing game.
The referees allow for the pass the game the words.
I don't think it's a ton of great more receivers now,

(01:10:22):
excuse me, more great receivers now than it was then.
I just think it's where the game is because I
can easily say in that case, well, it was way
more better running backs back.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
In the day, sure, but no doubt, but that's where
the game was. That's where the game.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
I think that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
But I think that's why a guy like Genti gets
so much pub right now, right because you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
I guess you could.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
But what I'm saying is if I if I told
you Brailn Edwards, all right, for anybody in this room
in the.

Speaker 8 (01:10:50):
Fourth round, third round, even.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Need, I need to find an impact wide receiver in
an impact running back, and I'll give you a third round.

Speaker 8 (01:11:01):
Pick to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
What would you feel more comfortable? What position would you
feel more comfortable getting an impact player, a wide receiver
or running back in the third round?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Running back, running back, I would say, I'd.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Say it is about the same at this point, I'd
say it's about the same.

Speaker 8 (01:11:19):
Fair enough line back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Because things are about the scheme. It's about it doesn't
matter like you don't necessarily it's so many.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Let me slow down. The great wide receivers are farm
few in between.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Everything is about a scheme. Everything is about how the
system is. You're not getting the Even DeVonta Adams is
a damn good receiver, He's not as close.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
As good as Randy Moss. He's not as close as
good as the TL.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
He's not as close I can name you Calvin Larry Fitzgerald,
and he's a really good receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
But it's about scheme, like Christian Kirk. Like if Christian Kirk,
but watch this though, if Christian Kirk goes.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
To the right team, the right system, he can mess
around have a hell of a career if he's in
between Cook and Cooper Cup exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
That's how it works.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
It's so back in the day, the wide receiver will
come to the team and you make the team. It's
a guy like now you can just get a bunch
of guys to plug them in and play them.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
For my thought process with the drafting part is like
I think it's the dichotomy of the two picks. Like
you you look at wide receiver and there are so
many first round wide receiver draft picks that don't play
out that a lot of these first round wide receivers
normally don't work out, so you're hoping for a lottery
ticket for a third round or a fourth round wide
receiver will running back. A lot of the good running

(01:12:31):
backs don't get drafted in the first round because there
running backs, So in the second or third round you
got guys that are really very good talented players, but
they're just running backs, so they don't get picked fair enough.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
The first round wide receivers that haven't worked out not
named Trey Linbert s.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
I mean, do Justin Blackman's the first one that comes
to mind for no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Okay, you just went back like twelve years.

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
Yeah there's I mean, if you look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Like twelve, you look at the top wide receivers in
the game now, right, Jamar Chase first round, Justin Jefferson
first round, Drake London first round, Jerry Judy first round,
Elik Neighbors first round, Ceedee Lamb first round. You've got
Aman Ross, Saint Brown fourth, Ryan Thomas Junior from Jacksonville
first round. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean Lad mcconkeye

(01:13:19):
at ten.

Speaker 8 (01:13:20):
Is a second round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Uh, Trey McBride in Arizona's second round pick. He got paid,
Yeah paid highest.

Speaker 8 (01:13:31):
Paid ty end A J.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Brown, Davante Adams second round. You know, so, I mean,
I guess yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
A J.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Brown second round, Davante second round. You look at Amon ra.

Speaker 7 (01:13:47):
Four, Quentin Johnston, Jonathan Mingo.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Then if you go back to the if you go back,
you know, just look at running backs. You know, Saquon Barkley,
you know, first round, Derek Derrick Henry, second round, jon
first round, Jonathan Taylor first round, Gibbs first round, Josh
Jacob's first round.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
See Derreck Henry is exactly what Spinny was just talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
He happened to come.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
The man had two thousand yards, actually had twenty three
hundred yard. He had twenty three hundred yards versus he
played Bellege, I mean Alabama, you know what he was.
He went the second round because everyone thought that the
running back was dead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
You know what, I stay corrected, I stay corrected. Spenny,
you changed my mind on this. There's a deeper pool
of wat receiver for sure. But well, yes, if you
look at just the top ten running backs from last year,
you've got number seven Tyrad Williams fifth round pick and

(01:14:40):
Aaron Jones fifth round pick. Those are those are in
the top ten rushers of all of last year. Two
fifth round picks. So maybe you do have maybe you
do have a point.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
We saw Checko do a lot of stuff for the
Chiefs and shabb hub Chuba Hubbard a fourth round.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, three guys, so I stand corrected the numbers. Hey,
The one thing that doesn't have an opinion is math.
I always go with the math.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
I do think you should draft a wide receiver every
single year, no matter what, though, because what if you
get an Amaras Saint Brown in the fourth or a
Cooper Cup in the wherever he was drafted, a Pooka
Nako in the sixth. I think you should draft a
wide receiver every single year, no matter what.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Plus, once you get to the level like the Lions
are in terms of where they are, we expect them to,
you know, be drafting. Don't We have Bell thirty, thirty
and back for the lets you know, foreseeable future, Like, yeah,
taking four or five or six because it doesn't mean
as much to you as it once did.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Pretty interesting stuff there, Brallen, good list man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
I thought you would have some fun with the quarterback stuff. Yeah, well,
almost didn't do what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
But then I said, I want to be very clear
here with the Chadure standards selection, it's not number eight.
If they trade that pick and he goes eight, that's fine,
but Atlanta's not taking him.

Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
I agree, That's what I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Could care less. My only thing was to show them
the fifteen Jayson Walker.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Well, I needed to re just clarify by going to.

Speaker 9 (01:16:06):
Listen to me. He's going to the Giants at three?
You think so, yes, done, deal done. Trust me, he's going.

Speaker 8 (01:16:16):
There at three.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
You're taking him over Travis Hunter.

Speaker 9 (01:16:18):
Yes, for sure, for sure. And he's gonna learn under
Russell Wilson. I don't don't laugh, and Jamison will Jameis
Winston and he's going to be very very good. I
truly believe that. And mel Kiper kind of put me
over the top with him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Who in the hell is mel Kiper?

Speaker 9 (01:16:36):
Exactly? Shadorg Sanders. It comes from great stock. I know
Dion wasn't a quarterback, but he's Dion Sanders. This kid
is going to be special and he's gonna be a
New York Giant. I took when I said, well you
had him Atlanta, I moved him up to the g met.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
How did you feel they didn't If they passed on.

Speaker 9 (01:16:55):
You, I'd be I'd sick, be sick to my stomach
unless they get Abdul Carter. Because what you're gonna lack
on offense, you'll get on defense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
The defensive line is sick.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
They are, Yes, why not more defense? Lawrence, bring it,
bring it. You're not gonna score a lot shut teams down.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Can I ask you a question about maybe we should
do this next segment? But but isn't the best case
scenario for the NFL and should yes, for Shador to
be the quarterback of the New York Clients. Isn't that
the best case scenario for the NFL as a league
to have that player on that stage.

Speaker 8 (01:17:38):
If he goes to Cleveland, he'll be out of the
NFL and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
For you, or New Orleans and you know what I'm saying,
or New Orleans, Uh, Cleveland, New Orleans come on. No
offense to either of those cities. But it's better Pittsburgh,
even it's better for the league if he's in New
York and he's good, by the way.

Speaker 8 (01:17:58):
He's gonna be, and that's where he's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I was watching uh EJ Manual break him down this morning.
EJ Manual is, by the way, I cannot believe I've
not seen him on esp ESPN before. He's fantastic. Oh
my gosh, he was fantastic. Is this like yeah, but
he's like ACC Network, which is an arm of ESPN.

(01:18:22):
I've never I've never seen him on ESPN before he
broke down Sanders was tremendous, and he was talking about, yeah,
he's not six foot four and he can't he can't move,
but he can move just enough to see down the field.
And it was just like I'm doing this breakdown, no justice.
But his evaluation of that type of play.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I don't want to say change my mind because I
don't know if he's gonna be good or not.

Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
I just I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I hope he's good, because I think that's better for
the league if he's good.

Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
But it was, it was really good. It was really good.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
I've always liked him, it's just for me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
My question is, I don't know how it works to
have that cocky of a player in an NFL locker room.
I told you how I worked with Baker Mayfield and
Ben Roethlisberger and a couple other of these really cocky guys.
They don't win locker rooms over. I've never been in
a locker room. I can just see the I could

(01:19:25):
just do the history of it, Joe. But but you're
talking seventy years ago, you know, eighty ninety years ago.
You know, Joe Damon, you know, I mean, if you
if you if you look at some of the most
cocky players of the last twenty years. I'm just saying
twenty years specifically, they have not worked out in this league.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Where did the cocky narrative come from?

Speaker 8 (01:19:49):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Like what about him makes them like over the over
the top cocky fee.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I think the raising your watch is you know, finding
the seeking out the cameras. Raising the watch is uh,
playing to the crowd and all the money on the
side of all the all the money stuff. I do
think that, Yes, I think that's and that's fine. That's
part of his attitude. I mean, that's Dion's persona, Like

(01:20:14):
this is it's got great stock.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
So you believe he's going to go to this team
and be there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
You don't think that his father have a conversation with
or that he's not going to change.

Speaker 8 (01:20:22):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
I don't know why would But why wouldn't he though,
because you just said he comes from great stock, his
father is a hall of famer. If my father is
a hall of famer, he tells me, I'll put the
watches down.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
But Dion didn't take.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
A back Seaton did exactly and what happened with him.

Speaker 8 (01:20:38):
He's a hall of famer.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
I just like the Like the whole narrative to me
is confusing, Like I don't think he's as cocky as
people make him out to be. Like I think he
flashed his watch once or twice on the sidelines two
years ago, and people have held on to that narrative
as it relates to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
The speed thing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
Look, how would you characterize it that two years ago
he flashes watch and then his dad told him up
and he stopped doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
He hasn't done it in two years, but on to it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I would capitalize it as this is part for the
course for twenty twenty five. We got young men that
would We got a young man that we talked about
yesterday with Tennessee and how they're operating where the mindset is.
Don't by the way, it's Schador Sanders and the speed narrative,
Like why all of a sudden when black quarterbacks don't
run their slow right, Like, I guarantee you when you
put him in the pocket, he will look much different

(01:21:23):
than Tom Brady. People look much different than a slow quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Like nowadays, if you're not Lamar Jackson, you're slow or
you're not a running quarterback, like every quarterback don't have
to be four to three to be speed zoons.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Russell Wilson was four or five flat and cooked, So
we got to slow down with the narrative on him
that he slowed You.

Speaker 8 (01:21:45):
How would you describe Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I think he's the leader.

Speaker 9 (01:21:48):
Of the hold on before you described remember remember what
some of the scouts said after the combine and this, look,
you're looking at a guy that wants him on my team.
I want him on the giants. But you remember they
didn't like him. They thought he was too cocky. It
was a couple mass.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
One person turned into two and at the end of
the day, you know why they don't like him is
because when they were interviewing, they were even interviewing him
in the berating type of form as opposed to just
shooting and you know what with him and having some conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
About the they were badgering him. Because I've been in
those meetia rooms, I've been to the combine. When they
badger you, when he badge you, you get frustrated. And when
you get frustrated, it's like, all right, look man, I'm
trying to get the hell out of his meeting. Y'all
don't even pick so it doesn't matter where I'm going
to get drafted.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
So I think that comes with it, and I think
it's just all a narrative as it relates to him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Whatever the reason is, there is a narrative. Oh he's cocky,
Oh he's just No, he's not.

Speaker 12 (01:22:46):
He.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
I would classify him as a leader, someone that showed
up at Jackson State every game, someone that showed up
at Colorado with every game, no matter how big the
game was, no matter what was going on, he was
downing to his team. He was there. Everything about him
screams leader. Everything about him screams good stock because he's
Deans Well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
And I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying he reminds
me specifically of Johnny Manziel in terms of the flash
on the field Johnny Manziel was. I would describe Johnny
Manziel as a cocky quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
He's selfish, like That's the difference. Is the type of
cocky player that Johnny Manziel was or that Baker was.
That he's no longer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Baker is no longer that players great, but the fact
that he was when he was shaking hands and the
kids said no, and then all of a sudden he
wanted that those.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
Guys were selfish. There's a difference between Khaki and selfish.
When you're selfish, you don't care about the team, you
don't care about anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
For the things that you do, they'll lead to costing
the team, they'll lead to costing you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
But when you're confident Khaki, but you're not selfish, you'll
do that, but you'll tone it down and eventually it'll
be no more.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Yeah, I guess I would wouldn't. I wouldn't have I couldn't.
I guess I wouldn't have that level of awareness coming
out like now we know that to be true. Now
we know that to be true about version one of
Baker or Johnny Mantil. Obviously we know that now coming
out of Texas A and M or coming out of Oklahoma,

(01:24:19):
I wouldn't have been able to see the difference, you know,
is you know what I mean now? Not having the
benefit of years in the NFL and stuff like that.
Interesting conversation. I hope it works I and again, I
think it's best for the league if it works in
New York.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Last thing I'll say is coming from a father that
or a situation where my father played in the NFL,
and then I followed him. There were a lot of
times when my dad gave me, like, you know, Leeway, Ugusta,
I do Hell, I want to Ryan. But there were
times when I did things and I got the phone call.
There were times where I was thinking about doing things
and I got the conversation, and it's like, all right,
you know, he's still dead.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
I gotta respect that word.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
Even though I'm twenty three, twenty four, I got all
this money and I'm doing that. He's been here. His
word still carries value. It's still the respect there. And
I think that's what you'll see from do Deon's word
is gonna carry respect and value for you do it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:10):
I'll tell you what Cleveland, Cleveland, what number two.

Speaker 8 (01:25:15):
Yes, they'd be stupid to pass them up. I agree,
How do they you know what I mean if.

Speaker 9 (01:25:21):
They'd be stupid to pass up, right, I hope they
do a Cleveland and they just reach for someone, not
abdul Carter, even Jackson Dart. Ye reach for Jackson Dart
and leave Sanders for the Giants, because right, I'm telling you, you
hit it on the head, he'll he'll hit it big.

Speaker 8 (01:25:36):
In New York.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
It's the best case scenario for him and the league
and for football fans as a whole. If A Sanders
works in New York, we're gonna take a break. When
we come back, we are going to go through that field,
yatesmell Kuiper mock draft. Is that what you want to do? Man?

Speaker 8 (01:25:55):
We might know.

Speaker 9 (01:25:55):
We just might do a little round the NFL and
say tomorrow because we have a guest coming.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Great, we can do that as well. And you guys, well,
we'll be good. That Braves reporter thing had me going.

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Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
I just have to mention I wasn't here yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
I don't know if you guys talked about this Atlanta
Braves reporter situation. We allowed to play that or no,
we can't play that because it's part of the Probably no,
we could just describe it easily to describe it. So
if you didn't see the video, it's an Atlanta Braves
reporter for Bally Sports.

Speaker 8 (01:29:22):
It's like Johnny King right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Essentially, the Braves are playing in Toronto. Braves reporter goes
into the stands interacting with a couple of female fans
and then he is He's like, okay, back to you.
The play by play guy his name escapes me says, well,
now you got to get her number. Okay, yeah, it's

(01:29:43):
your number.

Speaker 8 (01:29:44):
In between two women, right, I don't know if you
said that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:48):
Yeah, well no, but yeah, he's talking to two ladies
about whatever, and then the Braves reporter, the Braves guy says, hey, yeah,
you gotta get a number jokingly.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
So they go back to him, go ahead, take it
for and he does.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
He gets the number, and there's some playful conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
The ladies were having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
It appeared like that, and I have seen my entire
social media feed has been dominated by this interaction. Well,
just this guy is getting crushed really yeah for getting
this girl's number. And a lot of that are male reporters, certainly,

(01:30:30):
but a lot of female reporters. What if the roles
were reversed and I guess I would say that is
like I understand that, I understand that viewpoint. I will
to a certain extent. At the same time, I can
never understand what it's like to be a female sports
journalist in the standard by which you have to uphold

(01:30:53):
and have to live by.

Speaker 8 (01:30:54):
That is something that I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Will never experience or fully be able to put my
wear those shoes. It's an incredible responsibility. And you know,
but this was not that, And I think you still
have to allow for some fun, some entertainment, because at

(01:31:19):
the end of the day, this is all entertainment. And
let me just share a little insight with you. If
you work for the team, you are not a journalist.
I just don't believe you are. You are an entertainer.
You are rooting for that team to win, and you

(01:31:40):
were there for purely entertainment. You're not there calling the
balls and strikes. You're there to entertain and I just
you're not a journalist. You're there to give the hometown
coverage of the hometown team and be a little bit
of a cheerleader. And Olivia Decker, Olivia Harlan Decker.

Speaker 8 (01:32:04):
If you know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Kevin Harlan, it's Kevin Harlan the right between the eyes
one of the best announcements in the game. She had,
I'm gonna pull it up here, Olivia Harland Decker. She
had what I thought was I think her the most
measured response to this whole thing. Olivia Harlan Decker is
an NFL reporter Westwood one Sky Sports.

Speaker 8 (01:32:31):
Works on a Monday night game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
That's right, she says that. Here's her response to all
of this. People getting mad about the braves reporter asking
for the girl's phone number are insane. Haha. How does
that offend you? It was innocuous and cute, good TV.
I'd say it doesn't detract from the game or the season.

Speaker 8 (01:32:51):
Lighten up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
I've been a team reporter and the season is long.
Producers are always looking for something different, memorable, ways to
an all fans, or show some human interest around the game.
Most of those interviews are duds, So good on him
for having a sense of humor and rolling with it.
If someone can show me an example of a woman
getting fired over something similar, then you've got an argument.

(01:33:14):
Until then, you can't just say a woman would have
been fired for this. Middle of an early season baseball
game on a regional team broadcast. His producer told him
to get something colorful in the crowd. His booth is
egging him on. The girl was playing into it, and
it wasn't creepy. It's sports TV. It's entertainment. This isn't

(01:33:35):
the boardroom or o are.

Speaker 15 (01:33:38):
People were saying that a woman would have got fired
for doing it. Yes, they never even seen a woman
get turned down.

Speaker 8 (01:33:45):
So they were killing this guy, killing and killing the broadcast.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
I look at this and I think, especially when you
look at baseball, like baseball is the most child games
sport that there is. You Johnny Kane got tworked on
last year at Opening Day. Last night, Danielle Bruce was
going down a slide that they had, like they do
things like that. It's entertainment. It's entertainment value. And it's

(01:34:11):
not like he was like, give me your number right
now for the broadcast. No, and if she would have
shot him down, the booth would have had even more.

Speaker 15 (01:34:18):
Fun whole time, and then women would have loved it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:22):
Yeah, yo girl.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Yeah, And honestly, and honestly, we want these guys, like
we talk about guys to be guys, right, you want you.

Speaker 8 (01:34:34):
You want a guy to be a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
And nowadays it's like a guy can't go get a
girl's number, you know, unless you're on social media app
or you know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
I just I thought it was innocent and fun, and
I worked with two ladies as well earlier in the morning.
We talked about this on on the Fox two show,
and neither of them had any problem with it.

Speaker 8 (01:34:58):
Because of the circumstances.

Speaker 15 (01:35:00):
I've told women who've asked me, like, you know, like
worse should I find a guy? I've told him sporting
events is probably the best place to find a husband.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
One.

Speaker 15 (01:35:07):
The tickets aren't cheap, so he has a good job,
and he's usually there with his friends, so it is
a good chance. But you'll do something like that his friends,
but yo, we'll get her number and you it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
He's fine, you know, And so I just thought, what
did they thought? It was entertainment? It was fine. And
it's hard to it's hard to pick and choose. It's
hard to come up with a hypothetical as well.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
If this was a woman, what would the circumstance be.
It is really hard to come up with that circumstance
unless you've seen it. We don't deal with hypotheticals. We
try not to deal with hypotheticals. We only deal in
reality in real life situations. This was a real life situation.
It was innocent, it was entertaining, and you get what

(01:35:52):
you get. You can't say, and I've been in this
situation before as well. You want to be edgy, you
want to be entertaining, you want to be memorable, and
then when you come right up to that line, you
get in trouble for it. This is what you wanted,
you know what I mean, you want I was just
gonna you want memorable, you want edgy, You want right

(01:36:14):
up into that line, until you go right up into
that line. And I'm sorry. It happens sometimes. Would it
ever happen again? Probably not.

Speaker 8 (01:36:22):
This guy is yeah, it should happen again. Well again.
It was fun.

Speaker 9 (01:36:26):
I enjoyed it and I watched all the baseball games.
I love when Johnny Kane is up on the Pepsi
porch or whatever it's called now, Chmerica landing I think
it's called, and he's with the fans, and you know,
he's like you. Right when you're around people come to you,
especially the ladies.

Speaker 8 (01:36:46):
They love you. And Johnny the friend of mine, very
much bigger, much bigger with the ladies than I am.

Speaker 9 (01:36:54):
He's got a couple of years younger, so he's got
a little bit of a younger audience than you.

Speaker 8 (01:36:59):
But it's it's fun. What do you want? You're at
a baseball game.

Speaker 9 (01:37:03):
Listen, ladies and guys that are pretending to be upset.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
Let me tell you something, Let me tell you something.

Speaker 9 (01:37:10):
Okay, you just want to be angry, to be angry, Okay,
you have to be insulted.

Speaker 8 (01:37:16):
Just have fun, smile.

Speaker 9 (01:37:19):
You don't watch Happy Days more watch if you have
to watch Batman. I don't know what to tell you.
Grow up for crying out loud, stop being insulted.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
Well, I think people want to live in this very vanilla,
cookie cutter world to perfect, no sort of gray area
or no sort of I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:37:44):
They want it perfect.

Speaker 15 (01:37:44):
They want everyone to be perfect, everything to be perfect
to fit their life.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
But what does that even mean? That?

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
No, that's what That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
You just wanted to be perfect everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
Everyone's not perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
And again, you know in this world of entertainment and
we are now and gentlemen, let me tell you we
are in the entertainment business now, whether it's you know,
whether it's news, the news that you watch probably on
one of these cable channels, whether it's the sports shows.

Speaker 8 (01:38:12):
That you watch.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
You were not watching for predictions. You were watching to
be entertained. You were watching to have somebody draw an
emotion from you. Whether it's Stephen A. Smith, Sean Hannity,
Rachel Maddout or Skip Bayless. You know, I mean, somebody
uh is going to rile you up, and it's all entertaining.

Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
The men. I wanted to kill these guys.

Speaker 9 (01:38:39):
These guys are just pretending to be upset and they
call it simping that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:49):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
I can't stand in a simpause that's what these guys are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
This is a simp. This is this is a sim
girl tells a guy, my boy, man, he did that
to you.

Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
Man's crazy, guy good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
I would never.

Speaker 8 (01:39:06):
Change like that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
That's a simp and that's exactly what those dudes are.
I can't I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Stand and call that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
By the way, I want to use it on Twitter.
S I M p okay, stop simping.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
No back bone.

Speaker 8 (01:39:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
It is time now, welcome back Woodward Sports Network, Riding Money,
Broyleen Edwards, tom Asway, and we've got a special guest
in studio with us. His name is Exavier de Groat.
He is part of the Xavier to Growth Autism Foundation.
April is World Autism Awareness Month, by the way, it
is a cause that affects so many. In fact, the

(01:42:49):
latest numbers just yesterday announced one in thirty one kids
today have autism or have been diagnosed with autism. That
is up from one in ten thousand, thirty years ago.
So it's an incredible it's an incredible thing. Xavier, thanks

(01:43:10):
so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yes, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
I know your friend of Braylen Brayln, how did you
two connect?

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
XAVIERY and I met an autograph signing in twenty twenty two,
kind of just underneath Lansing. I started itching when I
got close, but now just under Lancing had a chance
to meet and he told me about himself.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
He told me about the Foundation. He actually that I
was saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Earlier he had and even with Jim Harball that year
that I wasn't able to make it too. Ron Bellamy
was also one of the attendees. Just an amazing individual.
I love the story. He reached out to me again
this year and I say, Yo, this is the right
time to work with the foundation. I remember working with
Roger Goodell on Autism speaks when I was still in
the NFL. So I can't wait to play golf outing

(01:43:51):
and can't wait to just hear more about him.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
That's why brought him into the studio the Xavier tell
us a little bit about yourself, man.

Speaker 11 (01:43:57):
I was born in nineteen ninety and grew up in
said Michigan, and that's where I'm now located in franken Mouth,
right part of Sagana County. But when I met with
Braylen Edwards here in twenty twenty two, I was still
living in Lansing because my father was working in General
Motors and just retired about a month ago. But he's
not retiring for life. He's going to serve the veterans

(01:44:18):
in a community, open up a restaurant in Bridgeport, right
next to the museum where I have it located. But
growing up with autism really was challenging when I face
obstacles being labeled and being stereotyped by kids that oh,
you can't come out and hang out with us in
the park and joke around. Well, those nuances they call
them psychologists. Was typicult for me to cope with when

(01:44:41):
other people would make fun of me or tell me
that I'm not strengthful enough to ever do such a
thing like play wrestling or football. And I played wrestling
in football, but I dropped out of football when I
was in tenth grade and it didn't go any good
because I faced bullying when I was in football. But
I continue with wrestling for about another couple of years
and I won a gold medal and pin people down

(01:45:03):
and my half Nelson and Savior.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
Let me let me ask you, from what you've seen
the work that you do with the Foundation. Now, what
do you how different is it from what you faced
with as as a kid to maybe what kids are
going through elementary school kids, middle school age kids now,

(01:45:27):
has it improved.

Speaker 8 (01:45:28):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
The level of awareness has it improved a little bit?
Just what do you see in your work with the Foundation?

Speaker 11 (01:45:36):
Oh, Autism understanding has improved very heavily, and it's become
totally more instrumental for society as a whole because we
are realizing how much of a talent that people and
autism may have and it becomes savants they call them.
And I am proud to see that we are understanding

(01:45:56):
autism better today. And when I was growing up in
the nineties especially, they barely had the eighty A just
pass into law in nineteen ninety and was going in
forward and taken effect thereafter, but it was slow and
they didn't even have all the resources through IEP programs
in school districts to provide autistics to feel comfortable getting

(01:46:16):
their own time outside or going out and navigating in
the hallways when there's no kids around, so they can
better adjust to what their classroom next projects will be.
Because talking too fast was hard can be hard for
people autism when the teacher is trying to describe so
much in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
I had trouble with taking notes.

Speaker 11 (01:46:35):
And explaining what my problems were to other people, But
now I can do it because my father and mother
kept me going out of my comfort zone to strengthfully
make my brain stronger, because the brain's a muscle. And
Arnold Schwarzenegger once told me a funny quote, because the
brain is a muscle. No pain, no gain, no stress,
no gain exavior going down.

Speaker 8 (01:46:55):
That is fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:46:58):
Around throwing out names to us, And you told us
some names before we go on the air that you
get around, my friend, tell us some great stories that
have happened to you since your diagnosis.

Speaker 11 (01:47:11):
Oh, I was able to go hang out in an
oval office and talk policy changes around the world, and
possibly it was going to go to Russia and see
the Prime minister there to talk about how we can
make the security system there better and safer for autistics
and neuro developmental disabilities from when they have tantrums and
not be looked at ask criminals and are on drugs

(01:47:32):
or threats to society, because we're not threats to society.
We are just our own people and the way of
being human, and if we cannot be ourselves and a
neuro diverse world, then I would not be able to
go where I'm at right now opening up the first
autism history museum, educating hundreds of kids around the state
of Michigan K twelve schools and also make trips all
over the country. Thanks to my mother and dad again

(01:47:54):
for paying all this money to go out and take
me to meet Stephen Hawking, the di Lama, Henry Kissing,
Henry Lewis Gates. I got doctor Cornell West coming to
Sagina to talk about civil rights with me and how
I face struggles and relating to civil rights movements.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Okay, oh sorry, I got excited you were on the road.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:48:13):
I keep going and I did not give up on
anything because of the motivation my father and mother gave
me to not let anyone discourage you or tell you
you're too retarded, because I've been called that word a
lot when I was a kid in the nineties. But
now there's a law about our word under the Civil
Rights Commission. But however, I am most blessed that I

(01:48:36):
gave myself away to God and had a holy spirit
when I was in Frankenmouth and felt, it's not my
job to prove myself to others. It's for myself to
prove my love to others by giving back and letting
God tell me what direction I go and flow in.
My dad and mother are very faithful, and I got
to become really educated with the Holy Spirit and going

(01:48:57):
forward with Philippines and all these proverbs that I've learned.
And I've learned a lot from Billy Graham, who I've
also talked to on the phone. One time he told
me just because Muhammad Ali and I met Xavier and
were different religions didn't mean we didn't love each other.

Speaker 8 (01:49:11):
We did.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
As a matter of fact. Is Xavier.

Speaker 11 (01:49:12):
He had differences in me about Vietnam War and all that,
but that told me that it's okay to be different
and still be peaceful. You don't have to judge people
politically like today's reel does.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
And we're talking to Xavier to growth from the Autism Foundation.
It is Autism Awareness Month here in the country, and
you've met so many great people. You've talked about the
strength that your parents, both your mother and your father
have given you. What advice would you give to a

(01:49:43):
young boy or girl right now that is dealing with
the same types of bullying at a school. Uh, maybe
called the R word as you just alluded to, or
any other name.

Speaker 8 (01:49:56):
What advice would you give to them?

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
And then a second part of that question, what advice
would you give to parents of children who are autistic?

Speaker 11 (01:50:07):
I would always start with the parents, because parents are
the number one key to making the child get developed
successfully and the future. And I tell the parents, let
your son or daughter with autism go outside in the
backyard and get exposed. They need that sunlight, vitamin D
first of all. Second of all, they need to experience

(01:50:28):
things that are dirty as much as are clean, such
as mud or such as things so they can learn
what to not pick on and touch. All the time,
I was a messer around and because of my sensory learning,
autism has typically a century learning ability based on texture
and based on materials, and a lot of geniuses in
history were scientists that had autism that were just like that.

(01:50:51):
Nikolay Tesla, Albert Einstein, and I had faced many times
too many barriers being put on me when I was
a kid, did not go out and take chances to
breathe hordor take a cup of water. It's almost like
meditating in school districts, and the schools was the most
systemized thing I went through that would not give me

(01:51:13):
my rights at the early childhood, and my parents were
the only one that let me feel free at home
from being out of prison, because I felt that I
was in prison. And I would tell kids, don't let
yourself feel less. Go out right now and look up
at the sky and stand straight up and tell yourself
what you want to do. Don't be hesitant. You got

(01:51:34):
to come out with it. Come on, You're strengthful and
you're beautiful. And that's what the lesson of the work
term beautiful came in my heart as Fred Rogers mister
Rotters neighborhood. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Ain't
a beautiful side?

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Kids?

Speaker 11 (01:51:47):
Well, now you got to learn that you can grow
yourself in your heart as long as you don't give
up on your dignity and pride.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
God bless you. We appreciate having you, definitely appreciate having you.

Speaker 9 (01:52:00):
You have a website saving I'm sorry, do you have
a website that people can go to?

Speaker 7 (01:52:05):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:52:06):
X d a foundation dot org one more time again.
X d A Foundation dot org stands for Exaverty Growth
Autism Foundation.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
On our chat right now, let people people are loving you.

Speaker 9 (01:52:19):
By the way, people on YouTube are writing in the
I think they think you're read.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Some read some of them real quick man.

Speaker 8 (01:52:25):
He says, give this U.

Speaker 9 (01:52:27):
He's like, there's people writing in that's saying they love
what you're doing. Sorry, you know I have friends with
diagnosis like this too. I have a son that's like this,
you're you're you're amazing. Xavier is the man. Uh, It's
it's great. People are loving what you're doing right now, man,

(01:52:47):
cut people are loving it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Appreciates you for coming in to meet you. Bro, you
too and mock you picture muster what.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Come on? Do you want to know why?

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
I always want to be David Turnley, the photographer. I
don't know if you met one sending him. Actually I
had an independent study with David Turnley. I would like
him to be at one of my events.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
Remember when Michigan was going to South Africa and he's
the one that photographed all the pictures. Really, that's David Turnley.
He does a lot of photographing down in City Detroit.
I did an intern We're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Do something that we've never done before on on our show.
We are going to post for a picture. I'm ready.

Speaker 8 (01:53:39):
I want to ask you about some sports. Pick up
that microphone. Are you a sports fan? A little football?
What do you like? What sport do you like the best?
What team? All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:53:51):
Nascar and football are both pretty equal because America, and
right there, it all begins with again my growing up
being raised and football fanship. My father would always mimic
Tom Brady. Come on, come on, Mike Hurt. That was
my dad's hero. Mike Hart.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
Are you a Michigan man or a Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
State Michigan man?

Speaker 11 (01:54:10):
However, I'm Lansing. I got a lot of Michigan State
friends that got to know me. Lorenzo White and I
busted out Mark Antonio one time. I told him, I'm
gonna go see Jim Harbor, so I'll tell him that
you're doing okay. And but Jim Harbaugh is my guy
from California that you will not be able to beat.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
And super I.

Speaker 9 (01:54:28):
That's if Jim met you, you probably work on his staff.
They did it worked, You'll probably be on his staff
out in La Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
I'm not that good. Thank you, thanks bragging us out
of here.

Speaker 8 (01:54:39):
My friend.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Look, uh man, that was that was such a bar
the last twin minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Man, appreciate our guests, Xavier de gro coming out. Man,
So proud of the things that you've done. So excited
to work with you in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
This is actively show.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
This is what it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
It's about more than life.

Speaker 8 (01:54:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
But you heard what the man said.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
You gotta get the glorying guy from my man Ryan
or Money, Xavier to grow, Xavier to GROW's mom.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
You burns uh spinding hell of a job by you spending.

Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
Appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
It was nice, smooth, easy flowing time as away. Who
got our guests? Mark Champion. We will see you guys.
Money h