May 16, 2022 • 36 mins
Lance Caporossi and Andrew Clements sit down and talk about the late NBA great Bob Lanier. We also share our thoughts on Cade Cunningham’s peak as a NBA player, and share our thoughts on where the Detroit Pistons will land in the NBA draft lottery. Subscribe, and tell a Pistons fan.
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Welcome to the Everything Pistons Podcast,where we only talk about the Detroit Pistons.
I'm Lance Caparosi. Follow me onTwitter at Lance Caparosi. Before I
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listens into all the future listeners,thank you as well. All right,
man, I'm watching Game seven ofthe Milwaukee Boston series. Incredible series.
I hate that it's over, andI had my eyes on Al Horford.
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I really wanted to pay attention tohim tonight because a Reddit user posted a
topic asking fans if they saw similaritiesbetween Isaiah's Stewart and Al Horford. I
wanted to. I wasn't originally goingto bring this topic up. I had
a kind of on the backlog ofour topics, like, you know,
maybe that's something for the future wecan talk about. I find it to
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be a pretty interesting comparison between thetwo me personally, there's a lot of
growth for Isaia's Stewart to reach outHorford's level, a lot of growth.
Yeah, Horford to me, initiallyhearing that, your brain just wants to
go like scream no, Like like, Al Horford is a solidified great in
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this game. But as I'm watchingRed, they you know, both have
a little bit of the same postmoves. Like you said, Al Horford
is like the finished product. Thecake is done of Isaiah Stewart, you
know, but they do have alot of similarities in their game. Down
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low, I'd like to see Isaiah, you know, maybe shoot as well
as Al has throughout his career.But down low, I can see the
similarities. So if you don't immediatelyjust start screaming no, you can find
some there. But I don't thinkit's close enough to make this and you
know, make the comparison even ifyou're trying to compare Isaiah Stewart now to
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where al Horford was at the sameage, Well one, al Horford was
still in college because he's a threeyear college player. Will just make that
very clear. But even then,when al Horford came into into the NBA,
like this dude was a very smartplayer, Like he had a very
high basketball queue. Not saying thatIsaiah steuartkink That just comes with the experience
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in three years of college playing fortwo national championship games. That carried over
into the NBA. For Al Horford, he's a very smart player. They
use him a lot different. Theyuse him pretty well in Boston. I
like the way they use him.You know, it makes great passes,
he reads the offense. You wereyou were talking about how you know he's
a stretch for He shoots at avery high clip above average really for stretch
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force. But then also like youknow, the post moves are there too,
So there are some similarities like whenit comes to the post moves and
being a rim roller. But thatthat one part of al Horford's a game
offensively outside of the three point shootingis that high IQ like reading the offense
and making the right pass to anopen player to get an easy bucket.
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Yeah, and I mean there's there'sthings you can say that that Isaiah Stewart
can do that that Al can't do. Like Al's not switching on the guards
right now, he does it Ior never really in his career, or
like Al Horford kinda he plays thegame a lot like like Tim Duncan used
to play like you're not gonna speedhim up, You're not gonna slow him
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down. He's gonna go at hisown pace. Sometimes his moves look like
they could be timed Donna Calendar,but he's still gonna burn you with them.
Al Horford can switch, but it'smore of like he bothers guys slowing
the guys down. But on defense, yeah, I think I see more
of the similarities because Al Horford isa pretty versatile defender and I think isaiahs
Stewart can. But again it's justa lot of growth as well for Isaiah
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Stewart. And also he's really noteven the same athlete as Al Horford.
Al Horford like he's like that sneakyathletic, like he can We saw that
play where he blew by where hedunked on Jannis when he drove from the
three point line. I don't evenknow if Isaiah's Stewart quite has that in
his game yet. And I don'talways agree with the comparisons of like Ben
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Wallace. I've seen some Dennis Rodmanor Rashid Wallace. I don't agree with
those ones either. But it's alsoreally hard to find a solid comparison for
Isaiah Stewart because I think that there'sjust still too much mystery to his game
and a lot of the guys Iwant to compare him too that I've seen
other people I've compared him to,like Elton Brand for example, just a
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different athlete. That's why it's sohard to find a comparison for Isaiah's Stewart.
But like, defensively, I thinkhe's gonna be good. I think
he's gonna be really good defensively.Offensively, you're still going to see the
post touches, You're still going tosee him roll into the rim, hopefully
if he can develop that three pointshot like you know he was showing towards
the end of his second season.I kind of see a similar role to
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how Sergibacco was used like sitting intothe corners, spreading out the floor and
clearing the lanes for the guards tomake, you know, to make a
play. So I think that mightbe in Isaiah's Stewart's future. But again,
I do love the topic of comparingIsaiah Stewarts Al Horford, but I
don't see Al Horford in Isaiah Stewartsgame. There's gonna be some similarities,
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for sure, but Al Horford,like you already said, like he's a
great player. He's in the NBAof Hall of Good, very Good,
not quite a Hall of Famer,but Hall of very Good. And it's
just a steep hill Frisaiah's Stewart toclimb, just again, because there's just
so much mystery to his game.But a solid conversation nonetheless, And again
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that comes from Reddit. Someone postedthat earlier in the week and I thought,
you know, might as well bringit up. Our next segment is
Headlines. With headlines, we bringyou new stories, updates on the team,
a quote or two, maybe evensome rumors sprinkled in there. We'll
share the thoughts if we have any, and then we'll move on. The
late Great Bob Lanier has passed away. He passed away May tenth in twenty
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twenty two, and for younger Pistonsfans like myself and you guys listening,
he'll be remembered as one of thegreatest centers to ever play the game.
However, he was so much morethan a basketball player. He was a
community leader and ambassador for the game, in a role model for so many
that came after him. You know, when I think of Bob Lanier in
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the stories that I've read, inthe clips I've watched, I'll remember him
as a fiery competitor and harden,a tough nose player, like a big
man with touch around the rim,just couldn't hit the outside shot up inside
outside game. He was. Iwant to say he was one of a
kind, but he was. He'sone of those guys that, even though
we say he's a great center,he gets lost in the time because of
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who the weather centers he was playingalong, Yeah, playing around Will Kareem,
you know, Willis Reid, DavidWalton or David Bill Walton. You
know, absolute just some of thegame's greatest centers and and he carved out
a niche and he will always beremembered in Detroit man and sad. Sad
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to hear the note news of hispassing, but we will will keep his
memory alive here on the podcast andin Detroit. But here's what bothers me
though, because we always heard aboutwhat great of a basketball player he was,
but then in his death you findout that he worked closely with David
Sterton and Adham Silver as an ambassadorfor the game. He was a role
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model. He was big in thecommunity, always giving back. And that's
the type of stuff when you don'thear it while he's alive, that that
annoys me. I really wish teamswould talk more about the player off the
court. You know, it's coolto remember him as a basketball player,
but all that other stuff sprinkled inthat is that is just as important,
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if not more important, demand offthe court. I don't know about you,
but I never heard that about him, and I wish I did.
I shouldn't have to hear about itwhen he passes away. Yeah, and
not only that, but just hearhow much of an impact he had.
Like before his death, nobody reallymentions Bob Lanier after his death. Everybody
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in the NBA, all NBA gradesSilver, you know, everybody drops a
statement you know about him, Soit really goes to show how beloved he
was and respected he was among theleague. No. Absolutely, And I
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don't know about you, but Ithink you can agree with my point that
these guys should be talked about,especially if they have an impact off the
floor in oh yeah yeah. SoI just feel like he was kind of
a miss by the by the Pistons. It really just by the NBA of
not really just give us the fullscope of who he was. And it's
really a short news week for usthis week, there wasn't really much.
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We kind of wanted to focus moreon Bob Lanier and really talk about him
and his legacy on and off thefloor, kind of forget the rest of
everything. So you didn't you didn'twant to talk about the news coming out
today? What's the news coming outtoday? I just I mean on ESPN
today, Taias Jones being oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we
can talk about that, I think. I mean, yeah, do you
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like him on this on this team? Yeah? Um, I really do.
I think he's a solid backup pointguard. I think why he has
done Oh yeah, for sure.Man, he's a little bit I believe
He's a little bigger than Kojo,a little bit more athletic, but he's
like Kojo in the sense that heknows his role and he will do whatever
the team ask of him to do. And I thought he played pretty well
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in John Morand's absence these playoffs.I mean, they gotta win without him.
Tias Jones, Yeah, I wouldlove him. Detroit, man,
I think that's a he's one ofthose I don't want to call him a
middle aged player, but probably middleaged hy NBA standards. I think he's
in his mid twenties right now.And yeah, I think he's a young
He's a he's a veteran. He'sa young veteran that can provide some experience
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to this team in a professionalism thateven though they have it in Kojo and
like a Ronnie McGruder and the KellyOlinik, but bringing someone with that professionalism
closer to Kaid's in Sadique Bays andIsaiah Stewart's age, that that would be
worthy of a contract. I don'tthink if this lets him go, but
yeah, I would like Tias Jones. Did he say that Detroit was one
of his destinations. I don't knowif he said that, or if it
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was more of, hey, Detroitshould take a look at this, Okay,
okay, because I had seen Ithought I had seen something. I
don't know if it was posted onyour Instagram page or if I saw it
on Twitter. Yeah, yeah,well both. Yeah, that Tighes Jones
was that Detroit was an interest,and I thought I saw someone say if
this is true, that's you know, I mean, that's pretty big in
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a way of like, you know, that's another piece to the overall puzzle
for the Detroit Pistons. But yeah, I'm in on Tias S. Jones,
What about you. I would haveto see a little bit more of
his game just going looking at hisstats, he looks like a guy that
can fill it up some nights.Looking at his playoff performance is really what
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I've kind of seen of him sofar. And you're right, he did
play well in the absence of JohnMoranton stepping into that role. So I
mean, he's going to be acheap option if Kjoe is on the block.
I don't know. I kind offeel more of it's almost a swap
or swap with a little bit morepotential with Attias Jones as the backup over
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Corey Joseph, Like, I don'tthink it moves the needle all that much.
Not saying that signing should or would, but I just don't see it
being that much better than Corey Josephright now. I mean, I would
just have to see who is themore expensive one at that point. So
there's some talk amongst Pistons fans thatmaybe you agree, maybe you disagree,
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just let me hear your thoughts thatif the Pistons were too scientist shoones that
this is more of an indication thatthe front office wants Cade playing off the
ball, or that they are givingup on Killian Hayes. Which do you
think is there's more truth to itthat they want Cade playing more off the
ball or they're giving up on KillianHayes. I really don't think it'd be
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either one or the I would Imean, obviously Corey Joseph would be gone.
I would say that more. Um, I don't know how many minutes
Tis Jones and Kaide would actually gettogether. I mean, there would definitely
be some some overlap there, butI don't I don't see Tias coming in
and starting and I don't I don'tknow, man, I I It's hard
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to do this before the draft.No, No, I mean it really
depends. It really depends on wherethey fall in the draft. And you
know, once we're in free agency, will will really know how this you
know team is gonna gonna shake out. But I don't know, man.
I still I still have hope andbelief that that Killian could get that starting
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roll back. I like killing offthe bench those as we're talking about that
dude too, But I'm hoping likehis game has evolved. I'm hoping we
don't see the same Killian last year. I hope we see a much more
polished, much more NBA ready,which would in turn, you would want
him to start. Absolutely. Butso back to Tias though, real quick,
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I think if the Pistons were tobring him in, and it really
depends, You're right, it reallydepends on who they draft. Like,
if they go guard, I don'tsee them making a move on Tias Jones,
But if they do get one ofthe big guys, yeah, I
can see them. If he decidesto leave Memphis, yeah this is I
could see them making a run forhim. And if Tis Jones is the
move, I could easily see himput into the starting lineup and bring Kojo
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and Killy and Hayes off the benchbecause that allows Kojo to play off the
ball with Killean Hayes where it allowshim still to run the second unit,
and then with Tias Jones is starting, and he is a steady ball handler,
and he is a guy that canyou know, he can do a
few things as an NBA players.He's not a great player by any stretch,
but he's a good player. Andif he is in the starting lineup,
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it gives them more of kind oflike a shade of offense, like
a new wrinkle to the offensive playbookwhere Kate can play off the ball.
If he's coming start, I'm out. I'm out on Tis. I don't
need Tias Jones at starter level moneyor what it would take him to get
him out of I don't know ifhe's restricted or not, but um,
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you know, yeah, if he'sif he's coming here to start, I'm
good. I'd rather get I'd ratherget a higher level. If we're looking
for a starting guard, I wouldalmost rather either draft one or wait till
a better free agent class. Imean, there's a there's a few guards
out there that maybe are a littledisgruntled, and if they were to leave,
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you know that that market might bea little better. But even though
I hate saying this about Detroit,these are the players you have to keep
on the radar because these are themost read absolutions, right absolutely. But
if they bring in Tias Jones andhe just starts next year with the in
when they give him the inclination,like, hey man, we're gonna give
you the opportunity be the starter thisyear, but we do plan on replacing
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you and potentially bringing you off thebench in later years. Are you okay
with that move? I mean,I guess I don't know why he would
sign here with you know you anyway? Right right? So I mean yeah,
I mean obviously why wouldn't I Iwant that, you know, Okay,
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I have to deal with it fora year, and if it works,
it looks awesome, and then youknow we're gonna get a better prospect
in here. Sure, if Iknew that, I'd be more okay with
it. I mean, I don'teven think you guarantee him the starting spot.
You're saying, we're gonna give youevery opportunity to be the starter this
year, but going into next year, depending on who we get. We
have our eyes on a few guys. You know, you're more than likely
to be coming off the bench inyear two in your contract. I think
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that's a fair thing. I thinkthose are discussions players have with front offices
of teams. I mean, Ithink that's very fair. I mean,
yeah, it's not unheard of forplayer x wires to say I'll resign here,
but I want to start. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
at least to give him the opportunity. I'm in on Tias Jones though.
I actually like his game, soI think he can fit a role in
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a need, and he's the typeof player that Detroit really would have to
keep on their radar, and that'sthe type of guy they're gonna sign and
bring in. And I think hecan be a piece of the future.
I really do. So. Iam in no way saying that this dude
is gonna be like Jeremy Grant anddrop like eighteen to twenty a game his
first year and just look like Imean, yeah, I mean, he's
not gonna average if he comes toDetroit, He's not going to average that.
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But he has the potential to geteighteen nineteen twenty points oh, yeah,
for sure. Like I mean,I mean, he's no slouch.
Like I said, I'm out onhim, but I don't. I don't
want to make it sound like I'mI'm making him out to be a slouch
or anything. You are, no. I mean, if if we're signing
him to be a backup, Ithink that is a great viable option at
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backup. But if we're signing himfor starter money and or to be a
starter, I think there's there's betteroptions out there available. So last year
for Memphis, he's twenty five yearsold, so he'll be twenties. I
believe you'll be twenty six. ButI don't win his birthdays. I do
not know that. But he averagednine points, shot forty five percent from
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the field, thirty nine percent fromthree, and eighty two percent from the
line. You know, an averageabout four assists, seventy three games,
twenty three starts. I mean,yeah, Tyas Jones, he's a solid
option for a you know, aspots starter playing a roll off the bench
for the Pistons. I'm all inon the move. I'm all in on
it if it happens. Is thatour only free agency news this week?
Just Ti I mean, yeah,this week, we've had some names leak
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out. I mean, if youeven want to say leak out, who
knows what's real, what's free?Well, but what are the leak out?
I just want to hear these ifmight make me laugh a little bit.
Well, I mean, as weall know, every Pistons fan knows
you got Jalen Bronson. Colin Sextonwas in the rumor mill a little bit,
Malik Monk. I mean, DeAndreAyton was a big name that was
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thrown around early earlier in the offseason. So I was just talking more
along those lines. Who knows what'sconfirmed and what's not. Yeah, I'm
not gonna speak on Jalen Brunson dereeither, and because I don't think those
are I've already spoke my piece onJalen Brunson. Yeah, I don't think
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DeAndre is a real viable option.That'd be cool, Don't get me wrong,
I'd like it. I've said inthe past I'd rather have them spend
less money on to Mitchell Robinson.But yeah, if DeAndrea wanted to come
plain in Detroit, yeah cool.I mean that'd be awesome. Colin Sexton
coming off an injury six foot guard, you know, just kind of in
that he's not in the same moldof Jalen Brunson. But I don't really
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see that happening either. I knowthat they were linked to the Jeremy Grant
trade possibly, and I think wespoke on this a couple of podcasts to
Go. But Malik Monk, he'san interesting name, you know, I
mean provides he's a nice little sparkplug off the bench when it costs that
much. He's an athletic guy.He's more of a complete version of Hommy
dude Diallo. I wouldn't be madat Malik Monk coming to Detroit. I
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don't know how truth that rumor isat all, but yeah, I mean
Malik Monk in right, I'd getbehind it. That'd be awesome, you
know, especially if he wants tocome in and come off the bench and
just try to get buckets for Detroit. I'm all in on it. I
don't love the Miles Bridges one though. I saw something on Reddit where someone
made a lineup when they signed MilesBridges, and I don't know how that
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lineup would work. I really don'twith them. Yeah, and I really
don't even think Miles Bridges is aviable option. I think Charlotte will do
everything they can yeah to retain Yeah, to retain them. I think what
him and LaMelo Ball have going isexciting. Yeah. I'll never forget man
because obviously, you know it's alot of the listeners, longtime listeners.
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No, I'm a Detroit transplant livingin Charlotte, and when the Pistons play
in Charlotte every year, I tryto try to go to the game.
And the the way Charlotte has theirpractice arena is really interesting. And it's
on the outside of their actual arena. Obviously not their actual practice arena,
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but they have like a court andit's on the outside ring of their arena
and it's all glass. So ifa players in there, you can watch
him warming up on the street.And so I'm going to a game one
night and uh, Miles Bridges isin there, and I stop and watch
him, and he walks into themost insane off the glass windmill dunk,
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real windmill. This ain't no GeorgeBlaha here, real windmill dunk off the
glass, just walks into it andthen walks off the court. When you
see players do that, or youdid, you just get instantly jealous.
I'm just like, I never inmy basketball career it could even think of
attempting that. How many how manytribes did you? How many times have
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you actually attempted give yourself an alleeoff the backboard though when you were playing,
you never tried it. I mean, yeah, give me a trampoline.
When I was a kid, sure, my favorite thing to do after
practice was half someone staying under therim and just float the ball up and
I would go up right above therim, so you got him dunk it
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in and say you don't. Yeah, who who? I could touch rim
without taking a step, like Icould flex, like hang on the rim
without taking a step. I havesome rusty springs in my calves, man,
believe me, believe me at that. No, but I could not
welcome to everything. Two white guystalk about their playing days. Hey,
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hey, hey, we're at thatage where we can. Okay, we're
at that age where we can.But yeah, never in my life could
I throw down a dunk like that. I think I've dunked it one time
in my life, and it waskind of what you said. It was
just like one of those ball barelygot above it. And I think I
might tap the rim or whatever,but yeah, no, I mean I
definitely in my playing time when whetherI was at the park or in the
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gym, Yeah, I'm trying tothrow it off the backboard and see if
I could get it. Never cameclose, but yeah, So I'm definitely
jealous of Miles Bridge was being ableto do that some insane athleticism. So
good for him. And I'm jealousthat you actually got to see it,
because you're right, there is somethingkind of like mystical about a guy just
walking off from the sidelines and justcasually throwing one of those down. It's
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it really is pretty cool. Yeah, he had I mean he was in
there by himself, had two trainerswith him, walked into it, dunked
it, turned to his trainers,you know, dap both of them up,
and walked off the court. Yeahthat's cool. That's real cool.
And yet to see it, that'sawesome. All right. This next topic
comes from the Woodward Sports Network.Terry Foster says, the Pistons are on
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the clock with Kate Cunningham. BeforeI ask you if you think Kate Cunningham
is on the clock, I'm gonnagive you a brief rundown of what he
said. Terry Foster believes the Pistonsare on the clock with Kate Cunningham and
says, when you look at thementality of an NBA player and if you're
if you as a team can't satisfyand surround him with a team that can
contend at the end of his rookiecontact, he will walk. He says,
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Kade will walk at them. Ithink I'm putting words in his mouth
right now, but I think hebelieves that the Pistons aren't doing enough for
him. He also made the comparisonto Grant Hill and Alan Houston, and
he says it's urgent with Kade andthat typically NBA players at twenty seven think
like I don't have a ring,so they'll do whatever it takes, and
he believes Kate is one of theseguys. I don't know if Terry meet
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Terry Foster means like Kade is justgonna bolt after his initial rookie deal and
not sign an extension, because ifthat's the case, that's just crazy.
I don't see Kaye passing in theextension. I really don't. I respect
Terry Foster, but he's wrong.There's no way Kade leaves right after his
rookie contract. And I think aslong as Troy Weavers in the front office
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and they keep making decisions like theyhave and drafting the players that they have,
whether they're you know, potential Allstars, are not just hard working
guys that come in that want tocompete, Kaide's gonna be fine. Plus,
you got a factor in that Katewent to Oklahoma State to be with
his brother. You know, there'sa sense of loyalty with katee and I
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think he's a believer that as longas the team is doing whatever they can
to build a contender around him,he's going to stay. So I think
Terry Foster is wrong. I'm notsaying it's a horrible take. It's an
interesting conversation starter. But Andrew,I'm gonna turn it over to you.
Do you think the Pistons are onthe clock with Kate Cunningham. Yeah,
I don't mean, I'm not goingto speak on what Kade feels in his
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heart, like Kaide would never dothat to Detroit because I don't know,
maybe winning a championship is the mostimportant thing to Kade. That wouldn't be
out of the realm of possibility,and I wouldn't vault him for that.
And if the Pistons don't put himin a in a chance to win a
championship in the next five to seven, eight ten years, whenever his timeline
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in his head, maybe he doesleave. So so I don't really want
to, you know, put actionsour words in Decade's head or mouth.
But what we can say and gobuy is what he has said. And
I think he has really am inin embraced the city like we haven't seen
a guy that didn't care about thiscity, like Trey Lyles is one that
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comes to mind. You could tellhe was just here for the check,
right. He didn't want he didn'tnecessarily want to come to Detroit. You
know, played well, but hewas here for the check. He had
no ties. I think the lovethat the city has shown Kade and Cade
has shown the city back will definitelyweigh on him. And I don't see
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the Pistons losing him and not signinghis rookie contract or a rookie extension.
No, And I think what you'resaying is really important. That he has
embraced the city and that the cityhas embraced him. We haven't had a
superstar like Kaide in a long time. And I mean not that I can.
I can't really go back right now. I'd have to look it up
to see if there have been anyother rookies in other sports that have embraced
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the city quite like Caid and histeam. I mean, you look at
Astroon. I mean, he's allabout the city at Detroit and that's a
huge part of Kaid's you know,basketball circle. I'm just throwing that out
there. But yeah, I haveto disagree with Terry. I don't think
I do. I could see Kadeleaving at some point, maybe when he's
in his thirties, like his earlythirties, if it hasn't worked out,
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But I don't see him leaving afterhis rookie contract, right And and this
is no no shot. I know. We like to like to send jabs
from from time to time at ourbuddies over in Houston. Right the the
whole rivalry that that turned out notto be with with Jalen Green. Like
if if we were talking about JalenGreen, Pistons got the two pick and
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we had Jalen Green and they saidthat, I would say, yeah,
that's that's a lot more realistic becausewhat we hear from from Jalen Green is
all about him. You know,he cares about him and look, you
know, he's a he's a phenomenalplayer, you know, and and he's
got a confidence. But at theend of the night, I don't know
if the win loss matters as muchto Jalen as the stat sheet does.
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Versus with Cade, I think thatwin loss matters more to him as a
basketball player than his individual stats do. Yeah, because he spoke on that,
he said, whatever it takes forme to get the win, that's
more important how the team does versusthe individual. But also another factor in
Cade, And again I don't knowhim personally at all. I'm just going
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by what I see, what Iread, and you know, kind of
his demeanor when he plays. Heseems more to be more of a below
the radar type of star, whereI don't know if like the national commercials
and all that stuff is as importantto him as it is other people.
I'm sure like endorsement money does crosshis mind, and why why don't you
want to take advantage of it?But that's not the dad doesn't seem to
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be the driving factor for Kade cunninghim, it's all about winning on the
floor. And you know, there'sno greater city than Detroit, and it's
fan base that are going to appreciatethat more than any other NBA team,
like we appreciate winning more than anythingin this city. So yeah, Kate
Cunningham, I don't see him leavinganytime soon, especially after his rookie contract.
But it's gonna be a Kate heavypodcast. We're moving on to another
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Kate topic. This also comes fromReddit. I posted this on the E
Pistons Pod on Twitter. You cancheck it out, go vote yourself.
I'm gonna bring up these votes now. But if the question is what do
you think Kate's peaks look like?Do you think he'll be an MVP candidate,
an All NBA team member, anAll Star starter, or an All
Star reserve? And I'll turn itover to you as I look up these
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results, I think he is goingto be when it's all said and done.
I know you've said top five playerin the NBA. I'm not putting
that on him, and I don'tknow if he'll hit that now. And
that's a that's not a knock thatthat's a really lofty expectation for Kate.
My I do expect from Kade though, multiple All Stars at least, but
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as a starter or a reserve.What do you think I see as a
I think I think he'll get astarter. I think he'll get a couple
starts. I think his first onemight be a reserve spot. But after
that and he kind of breaks thedoor down to getting in the All Star
Game. I think we'll start tosee him as a starter. I don't
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know if he'll be perennial, butI think he'll be definitely multiple three to
five All Star Games at least bythe time he's done playing. See,
I have way loftier expectations for kidbecause he's a great basketball player, and
you're right, maybe I am prettytoo much on him. I have said
this before and I'll say it again. I believe he'll be a top five
player in the NBA. You canquote me, clip this, share with
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everybody you know, even if youwant to mock me, I don't care.
I see Kade as a top fiveNBA player someday, someday, not
maybe not soon, but someday inhis time in Detroit. I definitely see
that in Kade's future, you know. But let's get to these poll results,
real Cooke, Yeah, ninety fourvotes. It's huge, especially for
us. Sixty seven percent said VPcandidate, sixteen percent said all NBA First
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Team, fifteen percent said all Starsstarting, two percent said all Star Reserve.
So most fans are thinking, likeme, top five being right up
there. Of course I think they'reright, Yeah, of course. I
mean, who wouldn't you know,I mean, like if you would be
so silly not to vote for oneof the top spots right right. I
can't imagine walking into a pool andsaying, yeah, absolutely, and I
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hope he blows my expectations out ofthe water. But you know, I
just I don't know, Top fiveis is pretty lofty. I mean,
you're talking about putting them up thereright now, with the Janniss, with
the Lebrons, with the Lucas.You know, Luca's pretty good. Oh
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geez. I don't know if i'dput the top five in the NBA right
now, though he's he's definitely upthere. He might you might fight for
top seven, you know, butI don't know if he's a little caveat
in their top seven. We neverscan the top I love it. I
love it. If the top sevenand a half, seven and a half,
you gotta you got a seven aseven being there, Lucas, No,
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I'm just playing. No, Imean, I don't want to.
I don't want to take away mylofty expectations. He's gonna be top five
in the league. Someday he willbe. Kate, Kate, is that
good? Especially when he starts gettingfree throws. There's getting some whistles.
Man, You're gonna be a wholedifferent ball player from Kate Cunningham. And
yeah, man, Detroit got agood one, all right. Final topic
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of the podcast. The Lottery's comingup two days as we're recording this right
now. So where do you thinkthe Pistons land in the lottery. The
Pistons will have a forty point onepercent chance at landing in the top three,
fifty two point one percent at pickinginside the top four. They're odds
at picking five through seven. Areat fourteen point eight percent at five,
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twenty six percent at six, andseven percent at seven. They cannot pick
worse than seventh. Where do youthink they land in the lottery. I'm
just gonna go mathematics here, andwe have not yet confirmed if Ben Wallace
is doing the odds, so I'mjust gonna say he's not, and mathematically
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I'm gonna go six. I've beensaying no, no reason. Yeah,
I mean no, really, noreason other than you know that's where the
mathematics. Yeah, the odds.Maybe we should do it like we did
last year and you start talking likethere's zero chance we get that one pick.
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Yeah. I have lofty expectations forK but I have no expectations for
the draft lottery. I think thePistons landed either four or number six,
and I don't know. I'm noteven the odds are there, don't get
me wrong, but I'm going bygut feeling. I think that's what's going
to happen. Either four or six. It's gonna be an interesting draft.
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Nonetheless, I think there's gonna bea couple of surprises. You can also
go check out the Draft Talk episodeI did with Tommy from Driving to the
Basket to hear more about that.But when it comes to the lottery,
I think either fourth or six forthe Detroit Pistons. And I just want
to say this, I don't wantBen Wallace to go to the draft lottery
this year. You don't want theone. I don't want the magic to
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be lost that, you know,if Ben Wallas going there a second time,
one for one, yes, Iwant on one for one. I
don't want people to be like onein the hand is worth more than two
and a bush. Yes, yes, that is so. I don't want
to see Ben Wallas give me anotherDetroit Pistons legend to sit up there instead
of Ben Wallace, because I don'twant It's just something cool about him sitting
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there and holding up the finger fornumber one. That was just such a
cool image. And I don't wantto see him doing this holding up a
six if that's what happens. Ijust want I want to remember him with
the one finger in the air,with that that that that smile on his
face of what had just happened.That was such a cool moment. I
think it's one of the best.I don't want it to be ruined.
I don't want that memory to bemisremembered with a lower pick. Let's stop,
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Let's stop having Ben. Let's stoptalking about Ben Wallace going to the
lottery and being that good luck charm. It happened once. Let's live with
it. Let's send someone else andsee what happens. Just forget Ben Wallas
going. Maybe next year, butI think you should take a year off.
Maybe next year, but for rightnow, no, I don't want
Ben Wallace returning as the you know, the face of the draft lottery for
them. That's the podcast. Thankyou guys for listening a little shorter this
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man, I'm watching Game seven ofthe Milwaukee Boston series. Incredible series.
I hate that it's over, andI had my eyes on Al Horford.
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I really wanted to pay attention tohim tonight because a Reddit user posted a
topic asking fans if they saw similaritiesbetween Isaiah's Stewart and Al Horford. I
wanted to. I wasn't originally goingto bring this topic up. I had
a kind of on the backlog ofour topics, like, you know,
maybe that's something for the future wecan talk about. I find it to
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be a pretty interesting comparison between thetwo me personally, there's a lot of
growth for Isaia's Stewart to reach outHorford's level, a lot of growth.
Yeah, Horford to me, initiallyhearing that, your brain just wants to
go like scream no, Like like, Al Horford is a solidified great in
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this game. But as I'm watchingRed, they you know, both have
a little bit of the same postmoves. Like you said, Al Horford
is like the finished product. Thecake is done of Isaiah Stewart, you
know, but they do have alot of similarities in their game. Down
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low, I'd like to see Isaiah, you know, maybe shoot as well
as Al has throughout his career.But down low, I can see the
similarities. So if you don't immediatelyjust start screaming no, you can find
some there. But I don't thinkit's close enough to make this and you
know, make the comparison even ifyou're trying to compare Isaiah Stewart now to
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where al Horford was at the sameage, Well one, al Horford was
still in college because he's a threeyear college player. Will just make that
very clear. But even then,when al Horford came into into the NBA,
like this dude was a very smartplayer, Like he had a very
high basketball queue. Not saying thatIsaiah steuartkink That just comes with the experience
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in three years of college playing fortwo national championship games. That carried over
into the NBA. For Al Horford, he's a very smart player. They
use him a lot different. Theyuse him pretty well in Boston. I
like the way they use him.You know, it makes great passes,
he reads the offense. You wereyou were talking about how you know he's
a stretch for He shoots at avery high clip above average really for stretch
(03:25):
force. But then also like youknow, the post moves are there too,
So there are some similarities like whenit comes to the post moves and
being a rim roller. But thatthat one part of al Horford's a game
offensively outside of the three point shootingis that high IQ like reading the offense
and making the right pass to anopen player to get an easy bucket.
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Yeah, and I mean there's there'sthings you can say that that Isaiah Stewart
can do that that Al can't do. Like Al's not switching on the guards
right now, he does it Ior never really in his career, or
like Al Horford kinda he plays thegame a lot like like Tim Duncan used
to play like you're not gonna speedhim up, You're not gonna slow him
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down. He's gonna go at hisown pace. Sometimes his moves look like
they could be timed Donna Calendar,but he's still gonna burn you with them.
Al Horford can switch, but it'smore of like he bothers guys slowing
the guys down. But on defense, yeah, I think I see more
of the similarities because Al Horford isa pretty versatile defender and I think isaiahs
Stewart can. But again it's justa lot of growth as well for Isaiah
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Stewart. And also he's really noteven the same athlete as Al Horford.
Al Horford like he's like that sneakyathletic, like he can We saw that
play where he blew by where hedunked on Jannis when he drove from the
three point line. I don't evenknow if Isaiah's Stewart quite has that in
his game yet. And I don'talways agree with the comparisons of like Ben
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Wallace. I've seen some Dennis Rodmanor Rashid Wallace. I don't agree with
those ones either. But it's alsoreally hard to find a solid comparison for
Isaiah Stewart because I think that there'sjust still too much mystery to his game
and a lot of the guys Iwant to compare him too that I've seen
other people I've compared him to,like Elton Brand for example, just a
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different athlete. That's why it's sohard to find a comparison for Isaiah's Stewart.
But like, defensively, I thinkhe's gonna be good. I think
he's gonna be really good defensively.Offensively, you're still going to see the
post touches, You're still going tosee him roll into the rim, hopefully
if he can develop that three pointshot like you know he was showing towards
the end of his second season.I kind of see a similar role to
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how Sergibacco was used like sitting intothe corners, spreading out the floor and
clearing the lanes for the guards tomake, you know, to make a
play. So I think that mightbe in Isaiah's Stewart's future. But again,
I do love the topic of comparingIsaiah Stewarts Al Horford, but I
don't see Al Horford in Isaiah Stewartsgame. There's gonna be some similarities,
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for sure, but Al Horford,like you already said, like he's a
great player. He's in the NBAof Hall of Good, very Good,
not quite a Hall of Famer,but Hall of very Good. And it's
just a steep hill Frisaiah's Stewart toclimb, just again, because there's just
so much mystery to his game.But a solid conversation nonetheless, And again
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that comes from Reddit. Someone postedthat earlier in the week and I thought,
you know, might as well bringit up. Our next segment is
Headlines. With headlines, we bringyou new stories, updates on the team,
a quote or two, maybe evensome rumors sprinkled in there. We'll
share the thoughts if we have any, and then we'll move on. The
late Great Bob Lanier has passed away. He passed away May tenth in twenty
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twenty two, and for younger Pistonsfans like myself and you guys listening,
he'll be remembered as one of thegreatest centers to ever play the game.
However, he was so much morethan a basketball player. He was a
community leader and ambassador for the game, in a role model for so many
that came after him. You know, when I think of Bob Lanier in
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the stories that I've read, inthe clips I've watched, I'll remember him
as a fiery competitor and harden,a tough nose player, like a big
man with touch around the rim,just couldn't hit the outside shot up inside
outside game. He was. Iwant to say he was one of a
kind, but he was. He'sone of those guys that, even though
we say he's a great center,he gets lost in the time because of
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who the weather centers he was playingalong, Yeah, playing around Will Kareem,
you know, Willis Reid, DavidWalton or David Bill Walton. You
know, absolute just some of thegame's greatest centers and and he carved out
a niche and he will always beremembered in Detroit man and sad. Sad
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to hear the note news of hispassing, but we will will keep his
memory alive here on the podcast andin Detroit. But here's what bothers me
though, because we always heard aboutwhat great of a basketball player he was,
but then in his death you findout that he worked closely with David
Sterton and Adham Silver as an ambassadorfor the game. He was a role
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model. He was big in thecommunity, always giving back. And that's
the type of stuff when you don'thear it while he's alive, that that
annoys me. I really wish teamswould talk more about the player off the
court. You know, it's coolto remember him as a basketball player,
but all that other stuff sprinkled inthat is that is just as important,
(08:28):
if not more important, demand offthe court. I don't know about you,
but I never heard that about him, and I wish I did.
I shouldn't have to hear about itwhen he passes away. Yeah, and
not only that, but just hearhow much of an impact he had.
Like before his death, nobody reallymentions Bob Lanier after his death. Everybody
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in the NBA, all NBA gradesSilver, you know, everybody drops a
statement you know about him, Soit really goes to show how beloved he
was and respected he was among theleague. No. Absolutely, And I
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don't know about you, but Ithink you can agree with my point that
these guys should be talked about,especially if they have an impact off the
floor in oh yeah yeah. SoI just feel like he was kind of
a miss by the by the Pistons. It really just by the NBA of
not really just give us the fullscope of who he was. And it's
really a short news week for usthis week, there wasn't really much.
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We kind of wanted to focus moreon Bob Lanier and really talk about him
and his legacy on and off thefloor, kind of forget the rest of
everything. So you didn't you didn'twant to talk about the news coming out
today? What's the news coming outtoday? I just I mean on ESPN
today, Taias Jones being oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we
can talk about that, I think. I mean, yeah, do you
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like him on this on this team? Yeah? Um, I really do.
I think he's a solid backup pointguard. I think why he has
done Oh yeah, for sure.Man, he's a little bit I believe
He's a little bigger than Kojo,a little bit more athletic, but he's
like Kojo in the sense that heknows his role and he will do whatever
the team ask of him to do. And I thought he played pretty well
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in John Morand's absence these playoffs.I mean, they gotta win without him.
Tias Jones, Yeah, I wouldlove him. Detroit, man,
I think that's a he's one ofthose I don't want to call him a
middle aged player, but probably middleaged hy NBA standards. I think he's
in his mid twenties right now.And yeah, I think he's a young
He's a he's a veteran. He'sa young veteran that can provide some experience
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to this team in a professionalism thateven though they have it in Kojo and
like a Ronnie McGruder and the KellyOlinik, but bringing someone with that professionalism
closer to Kaid's in Sadique Bays andIsaiah Stewart's age, that that would be
worthy of a contract. I don'tthink if this lets him go, but
yeah, I would like Tias Jones. Did he say that Detroit was one
of his destinations. I don't knowif he said that, or if it
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was more of, hey, Detroitshould take a look at this, Okay,
okay, because I had seen Ithought I had seen something. I
don't know if it was posted onyour Instagram page or if I saw it
on Twitter. Yeah, yeah,well both. Yeah, that Tighes Jones
was that Detroit was an interest,and I thought I saw someone say if
this is true, that's you know, I mean, that's pretty big in
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a way of like, you know, that's another piece to the overall puzzle
for the Detroit Pistons. But yeah, I'm in on Tias S. Jones,
What about you. I would haveto see a little bit more of
his game just going looking at hisstats, he looks like a guy that
can fill it up some nights.Looking at his playoff performance is really what
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I've kind of seen of him sofar. And you're right, he did
play well in the absence of JohnMoranton stepping into that role. So I
mean, he's going to be acheap option if Kjoe is on the block.
I don't know. I kind offeel more of it's almost a swap
or swap with a little bit morepotential with Attias Jones as the backup over
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Corey Joseph, Like, I don'tthink it moves the needle all that much.
Not saying that signing should or would, but I just don't see it
being that much better than Corey Josephright now. I mean, I would
just have to see who is themore expensive one at that point. So
there's some talk amongst Pistons fans thatmaybe you agree, maybe you disagree,
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just let me hear your thoughts thatif the Pistons were too scientist shoones that
this is more of an indication thatthe front office wants Cade playing off the
ball, or that they are givingup on Killian Hayes. Which do you
think is there's more truth to itthat they want Cade playing more off the
ball or they're giving up on KillianHayes. I really don't think it'd be
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either one or the I would Imean, obviously Corey Joseph would be gone.
I would say that more. Um, I don't know how many minutes
Tis Jones and Kaide would actually gettogether. I mean, there would definitely
be some some overlap there, butI don't I don't see Tias coming in
and starting and I don't I don'tknow, man, I I It's hard
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to do this before the draft.No, No, I mean it really
depends. It really depends on wherethey fall in the draft. And you
know, once we're in free agency, will will really know how this you
know team is gonna gonna shake out. But I don't know, man.
I still I still have hope andbelief that that Killian could get that starting
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roll back. I like killing offthe bench those as we're talking about that
dude too, But I'm hoping likehis game has evolved. I'm hoping we
don't see the same Killian last year. I hope we see a much more
polished, much more NBA ready,which would in turn, you would want
him to start. Absolutely. Butso back to Tias though, real quick,
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I think if the Pistons were tobring him in, and it really
depends, You're right, it reallydepends on who they draft. Like,
if they go guard, I don'tsee them making a move on Tias Jones,
But if they do get one ofthe big guys, yeah, I
can see them. If he decidesto leave Memphis, yeah this is I
could see them making a run forhim. And if Tis Jones is the
move, I could easily see himput into the starting lineup and bring Kojo
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and Killy and Hayes off the benchbecause that allows Kojo to play off the
ball with Killean Hayes where it allowshim still to run the second unit,
and then with Tias Jones is starting, and he is a steady ball handler,
and he is a guy that canyou know, he can do a
few things as an NBA players.He's not a great player by any stretch,
but he's a good player. Andif he is in the starting lineup,
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it gives them more of kind oflike a shade of offense, like
a new wrinkle to the offensive playbookwhere Kate can play off the ball.
If he's coming start, I'm out. I'm out on Tis. I don't
need Tias Jones at starter level moneyor what it would take him to get
him out of I don't know ifhe's restricted or not, but um,
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you know, yeah, if he'sif he's coming here to start, I'm
good. I'd rather get I'd ratherget a higher level. If we're looking
for a starting guard, I wouldalmost rather either draft one or wait till
a better free agent class. Imean, there's a there's a few guards
out there that maybe are a littledisgruntled, and if they were to leave,
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you know that that market might bea little better. But even though
I hate saying this about Detroit,these are the players you have to keep
on the radar because these are themost read absolutions, right absolutely. But
if they bring in Tias Jones andhe just starts next year with the in
when they give him the inclination,like, hey man, we're gonna give
you the opportunity be the starter thisyear, but we do plan on replacing
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you and potentially bringing you off thebench in later years. Are you okay
with that move? I mean,I guess I don't know why he would
sign here with you know you anyway? Right right? So I mean yeah,
I mean obviously why wouldn't I Iwant that, you know, Okay,
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I have to deal with it fora year, and if it works,
it looks awesome, and then youknow we're gonna get a better prospect
in here. Sure, if Iknew that, I'd be more okay with
it. I mean, I don'teven think you guarantee him the starting spot.
You're saying, we're gonna give youevery opportunity to be the starter this
year, but going into next year, depending on who we get. We
have our eyes on a few guys. You know, you're more than likely
to be coming off the bench inyear two in your contract. I think
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that's a fair thing. I thinkthose are discussions players have with front offices
of teams. I mean, Ithink that's very fair. I mean,
yeah, it's not unheard of forplayer x wires to say I'll resign here,
but I want to start. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
at least to give him the opportunity. I'm in on Tias Jones though.
I actually like his game, soI think he can fit a role in
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a need, and he's the typeof player that Detroit really would have to
keep on their radar, and that'sthe type of guy they're gonna sign and
bring in. And I think hecan be a piece of the future.
I really do. So. Iam in no way saying that this dude
is gonna be like Jeremy Grant anddrop like eighteen to twenty a game his
first year and just look like Imean, yeah, I mean, he's
not gonna average if he comes toDetroit, He's not going to average that.
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But he has the potential to geteighteen nineteen twenty points oh, yeah,
for sure. Like I mean,I mean, he's no slouch.
Like I said, I'm out onhim, but I don't. I don't
want to make it sound like I'mI'm making him out to be a slouch
or anything. You are, no. I mean, if if we're signing
him to be a backup, Ithink that is a great viable option at
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backup. But if we're signing himfor starter money and or to be a
starter, I think there's there's betteroptions out there available. So last year
for Memphis, he's twenty five yearsold, so he'll be twenties. I
believe you'll be twenty six. ButI don't win his birthdays. I do
not know that. But he averagednine points, shot forty five percent from
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the field, thirty nine percent fromthree, and eighty two percent from the
line. You know, an averageabout four assists, seventy three games,
twenty three starts. I mean,yeah, Tyas Jones, he's a solid
option for a you know, aspots starter playing a roll off the bench
for the Pistons. I'm all inon the move. I'm all in on
it if it happens. Is thatour only free agency news this week?
Just Ti I mean, yeah,this week, we've had some names leak
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out. I mean, if youeven want to say leak out, who
knows what's real, what's free?Well, but what are the leak out?
I just want to hear these ifmight make me laugh a little bit.
Well, I mean, as weall know, every Pistons fan knows
you got Jalen Bronson. Colin Sextonwas in the rumor mill a little bit,
Malik Monk. I mean, DeAndreAyton was a big name that was
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thrown around early earlier in the offseason. So I was just talking more
along those lines. Who knows what'sconfirmed and what's not. Yeah, I'm
not gonna speak on Jalen Brunson dereeither, and because I don't think those
are I've already spoke my piece onJalen Brunson. Yeah, I don't think
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DeAndre is a real viable option.That'd be cool, Don't get me wrong,
I'd like it. I've said inthe past I'd rather have them spend
less money on to Mitchell Robinson.But yeah, if DeAndrea wanted to come
plain in Detroit, yeah cool.I mean that'd be awesome. Colin Sexton
coming off an injury six foot guard, you know, just kind of in
that he's not in the same moldof Jalen Brunson. But I don't really
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see that happening either. I knowthat they were linked to the Jeremy Grant
trade possibly, and I think wespoke on this a couple of podcasts to
Go. But Malik Monk, he'san interesting name, you know, I
mean provides he's a nice little sparkplug off the bench when it costs that
much. He's an athletic guy.He's more of a complete version of Hommy
dude Diallo. I wouldn't be madat Malik Monk coming to Detroit. I
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don't know how truth that rumor isat all, but yeah, I mean
Malik Monk in right, I'd getbehind it. That'd be awesome, you
know, especially if he wants tocome in and come off the bench and
just try to get buckets for Detroit. I'm all in on it. I
don't love the Miles Bridges one though. I saw something on Reddit where someone
made a lineup when they signed MilesBridges, and I don't know how that
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lineup would work. I really don'twith them. Yeah, and I really
don't even think Miles Bridges is aviable option. I think Charlotte will do
everything they can yeah to retain Yeah, to retain them. I think what
him and LaMelo Ball have going isexciting. Yeah. I'll never forget man
because obviously, you know it's alot of the listeners, longtime listeners.
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No, I'm a Detroit transplant livingin Charlotte, and when the Pistons play
in Charlotte every year, I tryto try to go to the game.
And the the way Charlotte has theirpractice arena is really interesting. And it's
on the outside of their actual arena. Obviously not their actual practice arena,
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but they have like a court andit's on the outside ring of their arena
and it's all glass. So ifa players in there, you can watch
him warming up on the street.And so I'm going to a game one
night and uh, Miles Bridges isin there, and I stop and watch
him, and he walks into themost insane off the glass windmill dunk,
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real windmill. This ain't no GeorgeBlaha here, real windmill dunk off the
glass, just walks into it andthen walks off the court. When you
see players do that, or youdid, you just get instantly jealous.
I'm just like, I never inmy basketball career it could even think of
attempting that. How many how manytribes did you? How many times have
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you actually attempted give yourself an alleeoff the backboard though when you were playing,
you never tried it. I mean, yeah, give me a trampoline.
When I was a kid, sure, my favorite thing to do after
practice was half someone staying under therim and just float the ball up and
I would go up right above therim, so you got him dunk it
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in and say you don't. Yeah, who who? I could touch rim
without taking a step, like Icould flex, like hang on the rim
without taking a step. I havesome rusty springs in my calves, man,
believe me, believe me at that. No, but I could not
welcome to everything. Two white guystalk about their playing days. Hey,
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hey, hey, we're at thatage where we can. Okay, we're
at that age where we can.But yeah, never in my life could
I throw down a dunk like that. I think I've dunked it one time
in my life, and it waskind of what you said. It was
just like one of those ball barelygot above it. And I think I
might tap the rim or whatever,but yeah, no, I mean I
definitely in my playing time when whetherI was at the park or in the
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gym, Yeah, I'm trying tothrow it off the backboard and see if
I could get it. Never cameclose, but yeah, So I'm definitely
jealous of Miles Bridge was being ableto do that some insane athleticism. So
good for him. And I'm jealousthat you actually got to see it,
because you're right, there is somethingkind of like mystical about a guy just
walking off from the sidelines and justcasually throwing one of those down. It's
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it really is pretty cool. Yeah, he had I mean he was in
there by himself, had two trainerswith him, walked into it, dunked
it, turned to his trainers,you know, dap both of them up,
and walked off the court. Yeahthat's cool. That's real cool.
And yet to see it, that'sawesome. All right. This next topic
comes from the Woodward Sports Network.Terry Foster says, the Pistons are on
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the clock with Kate Cunningham. BeforeI ask you if you think Kate Cunningham
is on the clock, I'm gonnagive you a brief rundown of what he
said. Terry Foster believes the Pistonsare on the clock with Kate Cunningham and
says, when you look at thementality of an NBA player and if you're
if you as a team can't satisfyand surround him with a team that can
contend at the end of his rookiecontact, he will walk. He says,
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Kade will walk at them. Ithink I'm putting words in his mouth
right now, but I think hebelieves that the Pistons aren't doing enough for
him. He also made the comparisonto Grant Hill and Alan Houston, and
he says it's urgent with Kade andthat typically NBA players at twenty seven think
like I don't have a ring,so they'll do whatever it takes, and
he believes Kate is one of theseguys. I don't know if Terry meet
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Terry Foster means like Kade is justgonna bolt after his initial rookie deal and
not sign an extension, because ifthat's the case, that's just crazy.
I don't see Kaye passing in theextension. I really don't. I respect
Terry Foster, but he's wrong.There's no way Kade leaves right after his
rookie contract. And I think aslong as Troy Weavers in the front office
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and they keep making decisions like theyhave and drafting the players that they have,
whether they're you know, potential Allstars, are not just hard working
guys that come in that want tocompete, Kaide's gonna be fine. Plus,
you got a factor in that Katewent to Oklahoma State to be with
his brother. You know, there'sa sense of loyalty with katee and I
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think he's a believer that as longas the team is doing whatever they can
to build a contender around him,he's going to stay. So I think
Terry Foster is wrong. I'm notsaying it's a horrible take. It's an
interesting conversation starter. But Andrew,I'm gonna turn it over to you.
Do you think the Pistons are onthe clock with Kate Cunningham. Yeah,
I don't mean, I'm not goingto speak on what Kade feels in his
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heart, like Kaide would never dothat to Detroit because I don't know,
maybe winning a championship is the mostimportant thing to Kade. That wouldn't be
out of the realm of possibility,and I wouldn't vault him for that.
And if the Pistons don't put himin a in a chance to win a
championship in the next five to seven, eight ten years, whenever his timeline
(25:44):
in his head, maybe he doesleave. So so I don't really want
to, you know, put actionsour words in Decade's head or mouth.
But what we can say and gobuy is what he has said. And
I think he has really am inin embraced the city like we haven't seen
a guy that didn't care about thiscity, like Trey Lyles is one that
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comes to mind. You could tellhe was just here for the check,
right. He didn't want he didn'tnecessarily want to come to Detroit. You
know, played well, but hewas here for the check. He had
no ties. I think the lovethat the city has shown Kade and Cade
has shown the city back will definitelyweigh on him. And I don't see
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the Pistons losing him and not signinghis rookie contract or a rookie extension.
No, And I think what you'resaying is really important. That he has
embraced the city and that the cityhas embraced him. We haven't had a
superstar like Kaide in a long time. And I mean not that I can.
I can't really go back right now. I'd have to look it up
to see if there have been anyother rookies in other sports that have embraced
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the city quite like Caid and histeam. I mean, you look at
Astroon. I mean, he's allabout the city at Detroit and that's a
huge part of Kaid's you know,basketball circle. I'm just throwing that out
there. But yeah, I haveto disagree with Terry. I don't think
I do. I could see Kadeleaving at some point, maybe when he's
in his thirties, like his earlythirties, if it hasn't worked out,
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But I don't see him leaving afterhis rookie contract, right And and this
is no no shot. I know. We like to like to send jabs
from from time to time at ourbuddies over in Houston. Right the the
whole rivalry that that turned out notto be with with Jalen Green. Like
if if we were talking about JalenGreen, Pistons got the two pick and
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we had Jalen Green and they saidthat, I would say, yeah,
that's that's a lot more realistic becausewhat we hear from from Jalen Green is
all about him. You know,he cares about him and look, you
know, he's a he's a phenomenalplayer, you know, and and he's
got a confidence. But at theend of the night, I don't know
if the win loss matters as muchto Jalen as the stat sheet does.
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Versus with Cade, I think thatwin loss matters more to him as a
basketball player than his individual stats do. Yeah, because he spoke on that,
he said, whatever it takes forme to get the win, that's
more important how the team does versusthe individual. But also another factor in
Cade, And again I don't knowhim personally at all. I'm just going
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by what I see, what Iread, and you know, kind of
his demeanor when he plays. Heseems more to be more of a below
the radar type of star, whereI don't know if like the national commercials
and all that stuff is as importantto him as it is other people.
I'm sure like endorsement money does crosshis mind, and why why don't you
want to take advantage of it?But that's not the dad doesn't seem to
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be the driving factor for Kade cunninghim, it's all about winning on the
floor. And you know, there'sno greater city than Detroit, and it's
fan base that are going to appreciatethat more than any other NBA team,
like we appreciate winning more than anythingin this city. So yeah, Kate
Cunningham, I don't see him leavinganytime soon, especially after his rookie contract.
But it's gonna be a Kate heavypodcast. We're moving on to another
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Kate topic. This also comes fromReddit. I posted this on the E
Pistons Pod on Twitter. You cancheck it out, go vote yourself.
I'm gonna bring up these votes now. But if the question is what do
you think Kate's peaks look like?Do you think he'll be an MVP candidate,
an All NBA team member, anAll Star starter, or an All
Star reserve? And I'll turn itover to you as I look up these
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results, I think he is goingto be when it's all said and done.
I know you've said top five playerin the NBA. I'm not putting
that on him, and I don'tknow if he'll hit that now. And
that's a that's not a knock thatthat's a really lofty expectation for Kate.
My I do expect from Kade though, multiple All Stars at least, but
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as a starter or a reserve.What do you think I see as a
I think I think he'll get astarter. I think he'll get a couple
starts. I think his first onemight be a reserve spot. But after
that and he kind of breaks thedoor down to getting in the All Star
Game. I think we'll start tosee him as a starter. I don't
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know if he'll be perennial, butI think he'll be definitely multiple three to
five All Star Games at least bythe time he's done playing. See,
I have way loftier expectations for kidbecause he's a great basketball player, and
you're right, maybe I am prettytoo much on him. I have said
this before and I'll say it again. I believe he'll be a top five
player in the NBA. You canquote me, clip this, share with
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everybody you know, even if youwant to mock me, I don't care.
I see Kade as a top fiveNBA player someday, someday, not
maybe not soon, but someday inhis time in Detroit. I definitely see
that in Kade's future, you know. But let's get to these poll results,
real Cooke, Yeah, ninety fourvotes. It's huge, especially for
us. Sixty seven percent said VPcandidate, sixteen percent said all NBA First
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Team, fifteen percent said all Starsstarting, two percent said all Star Reserve.
So most fans are thinking, likeme, top five being right up
there. Of course I think they'reright, Yeah, of course. I
mean, who wouldn't you know,I mean, like if you would be
so silly not to vote for oneof the top spots right right. I
can't imagine walking into a pool andsaying, yeah, absolutely, and I
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hope he blows my expectations out ofthe water. But you know, I
just I don't know, Top fiveis is pretty lofty. I mean,
you're talking about putting them up thereright now, with the Janniss, with
the Lebrons, with the Lucas.You know, Luca's pretty good. Oh
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geez. I don't know if i'dput the top five in the NBA right
now, though he's he's definitely upthere. He might you might fight for
top seven, you know, butI don't know if he's a little caveat
in their top seven. We neverscan the top I love it. I
love it. If the top sevenand a half, seven and a half,
you gotta you got a seven aseven being there, Lucas, No,
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I'm just playing. No, Imean, I don't want to.
I don't want to take away mylofty expectations. He's gonna be top five
in the league. Someday he willbe. Kate, Kate, is that
good? Especially when he starts gettingfree throws. There's getting some whistles.
Man, You're gonna be a wholedifferent ball player from Kate Cunningham. And
yeah, man, Detroit got agood one, all right. Final topic
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of the podcast. The Lottery's comingup two days as we're recording this right
now. So where do you thinkthe Pistons land in the lottery. The
Pistons will have a forty point onepercent chance at landing in the top three,
fifty two point one percent at pickinginside the top four. They're odds
at picking five through seven. Areat fourteen point eight percent at five,
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twenty six percent at six, andseven percent at seven. They cannot pick
worse than seventh. Where do youthink they land in the lottery. I'm
just gonna go mathematics here, andwe have not yet confirmed if Ben Wallace
is doing the odds, so I'mjust gonna say he's not, and mathematically
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I'm gonna go six. I've beensaying no, no reason. Yeah,
I mean no, really, noreason other than you know that's where the
mathematics. Yeah, the odds.Maybe we should do it like we did
last year and you start talking likethere's zero chance we get that one pick.
(33:34):
Yeah. I have lofty expectations forK but I have no expectations for
the draft lottery. I think thePistons landed either four or number six,
and I don't know. I'm noteven the odds are there, don't get
me wrong, but I'm going bygut feeling. I think that's what's going
to happen. Either four or six. It's gonna be an interesting draft.
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Nonetheless, I think there's gonna bea couple of surprises. You can also
go check out the Draft Talk episodeI did with Tommy from Driving to the
Basket to hear more about that.But when it comes to the lottery,
I think either fourth or six forthe Detroit Pistons. And I just want
to say this, I don't wantBen Wallace to go to the draft lottery
this year. You don't want theone. I don't want the magic to
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be lost that, you know,if Ben Wallas going there a second time,
one for one, yes, Iwant on one for one. I
don't want people to be like onein the hand is worth more than two
and a bush. Yes, yes, that is so. I don't want
to see Ben Wallas give me anotherDetroit Pistons legend to sit up there instead
of Ben Wallace, because I don'twant It's just something cool about him sitting
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there and holding up the finger fornumber one. That was just such a
cool image. And I don't wantto see him doing this holding up a
six if that's what happens. Ijust want I want to remember him with
the one finger in the air,with that that that that smile on his
face of what had just happened.That was such a cool moment. I
think it's one of the best.I don't want it to be ruined.
I don't want that memory to bemisremembered with a lower pick. Let's stop,
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Let's stop having Ben. Let's stoptalking about Ben Wallace going to the
lottery and being that good luck charm. It happened once. Let's live with
it. Let's send someone else andsee what happens. Just forget Ben Wallas
going. Maybe next year, butI think you should take a year off.
Maybe next year, but for rightnow, no, I don't want
Ben Wallace returning as the you know, the face of the draft lottery for
them. That's the podcast. Thankyou guys for listening a little shorter this
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week than what we're normally dropping foryou guys. Follow me on Twitter at
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