Jerami Grant Trade Rumors, Tank Next Season? & Thoughts on Jalen Brunson

Lance Caporossi and Andrew Clements share their thoughts on Dallas Mavericks guard Jalen Brunson and if they would like the Detroit Pistons to sign him. Then, Jerami Grant rumors to Cleveland via trade, and we take turns weighing the pros and cons. Finally, would we feel down or be upset if the Detroit Pistons went with the tank next season? Subscribe and enjoy!

Episode Transcript

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leave a review on the Everything Pistonspodcast. Now, let's officially get

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this started. Jailing brun I havebeen flipping back and forth a lot on
whether I want would want the Pistonsto sign him. Here it is officially
exclusively on this podcast. I'm outon Jalen Brunson. I do not want
the Pistons to sign Jalen Brunson.Don't even tell me about the twenty eight
points he had against the Dallas Mavericks. Don't even point to the twenty four

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points per game he's averaged in theplayoffs. He has looked bad against the
Phoenix Suns. I don't know howmany of you Twitter users were right.
There were so many of you.I think it was Keith Black that said,
look, this is the series youwant to watch Jalen Brunson. This
is when you need to make thedecision on Jalen Brunson. He was one
hundred percent right. Jalen Brunson lookslost against length and against a good defensive

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team. I don't know what's goingon with that guy. He can't find
a three point to save his life. He keeps driving the lane. He's
too small, his shot is blocked. He had an airball in the last
game. I don't know what's goingon with Jalen Brunson, but I'm officially
out on Jalen Brunson. Don't evenpoint to my tweets if you want to
go back that far. Yes,I said I can see the fit because

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Jalen Brunson has made it work withLuca. He's a six foot one guard.
I guarantee you he can make itwork with Kaye. But if Jalen
Brunson is commanding twenty twenty five milliona year and he is one of your
best players, your team is notgoing that far. I'm sorry, man,
don't even point to me and pointout how well Jalen Brunson played in
the first round. And don't eventell me that he is the second most

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important player on the Dallas Mavericks.That team is Luka Dontis. It's only
Luca Dontis, and they only goas far as Luca Donze. That is
it. I don't want to hearany more things about Jalen Brunson. And
again to all the people that messagedme after one of our podcasts a couple
of weeks ago and said, dude, I hated the Jalen Brunson slander.
By you eat these words. He'snot playing for the Detroit Pistons. Don't

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message me about slander. I don'teven want to hear it. My thought
in my mind is made up.Jalen Brunson to Detroit. I don't want
to see it happen. Andrew,I'm gonna turn it over to you while
I look up a recent Twitter poolon Jalen Brunson and share those results with
you. I hear you, man, and not so fast. I don't
think this uh late playoff drought orI kind of think the Pistons front office

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really got enamored with him in thefirst round. And I don't really think
that war off because look, you'reyou're playing one of the NBA's top teams,
the number one seed in the West. You know pretty much everyone's picked
to go to the finals and maybewin this thing. So you're playing a
really, really good team and youhave a guy that just came off of

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a series that just absolutely lit itup and blew up in the role that
he was asked to play and gotall this exposure. Jalen Brunson, to
me, is is definitely a guythat if he would come in, I
think he would make a lot ofpeople a fan of him. And I'm
talking about maybe the the guys thatlike you, that absolutely do not want

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him here. I think after ayear or so, you guys would really
start to start to enjoy him andsee what he brings to the team.
He's not a guy that I amso high on every time. We kind
of I post anything on Instagram orany social media about a maybe mid or
lower tiered free agent signing, possiblesigning. Jalen Brunson is always brought up,

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guaranteed brought up. NA, We'lltake Jalen Brunson, go for him,
and so I don't think he's likethe end all be all number one
on the target list this offseason.Look, because you just said that I
would be a fan. I ama fan of Jalen Brunson. I do
like Jalen Brunson. I don't likehim in Detroit. I think if you're

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gonna be under six foot two guard, you better be athletic as hell.
Like you better be one of thebest athletes in the NBA. That's why
I would take Colin Sexton or JalenBronson. He's a better athlete like you.
If you're that short, you needto be able to get to the
rim and finish over people. Youhave to be able to do that because
when that SHOT's not falling from thethree point line and you got to go

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inside the arc, man, youbetter be able to bring you hard.
And I know Jalen Brunson, He'sfinished a few times around the rim I'm
not saying he's bad in that area. I just don't want him to Detroit.
I really don't like I'm good onall of it. Like, yes,
you're right. If he did cometo Detroit, I would root for
him. I'm not gonna not rootfor a Pistons player. I'm never gonna
do that, you know what I'msaying. I'll fall in love with the
guy if he's in Detroit. Butright now he's not in Detroit. I

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don't want him in Detroit. Areyou ready for these poll results? Can
I share them with you? Sure? We got an astounding thirty nine votes.
The question was do you still wantthe Pistons to shot to sign Jalen
Brunson. Fifty four percent said no, forty six percent said yes, forty
six percent that said yes. Youguys have no idea what you're talking about.

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The other percent you do know whatyou're talking about. You are my
favorite fans. Go rate the podcast. Let me ask you this, if
it comes down to Jalen Brunson orGary Harris, who would you rather have
on the Pistons right now? SoGary Harris or Jalen Brunson. Gary Harris
a name being brought up here askind of under the radar free agent target

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eleven points per game, Jalen Brunsonbeing more of a kind of hot and
cold guy, like almost like akind of Josh Jackson. Like when he
had it, he had it right, but when he doesn't it sometimes can
can hurt the team. Gary Harrisbeing he's not he doesn't love to shoot

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the ball right and that and that'sthe part that kind of trips me up
because you think about that, ifthe Pistons were to sign Gary Harris,
he's obviously coming off the bench.And so now moving into this year,
we obviously don't know yet where Kellyand Hayes will be playing. Are you
gonna play Killian Hayes and Gary Harrisnext to each other off the bench?

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And then you got, I mean, you got just not enough offense coming
from your backcourt at that point.So the thing about Gary Harris, I
don't know what happened to him becausein Denver he was a solid player.
After his rookie season he had threeyears of twelve fifteen, almost eighteen points

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per game, and then he hada fourth year and fifty seven games with
the Denver Nuggets where he averaged thirteen, a game where he was still a
starter for them. Then his finalyear in Denver, he played fifty six
games with fifty six starts. Hedropped off to about ten points per game.
His shooting really started to struggle afterthat little three year run his second,
third and fourth years in the leaguewhere he shot the ball close to

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forty percent. One year he shotforty two percent from the three point line.
This past year four in Lando,he actually made thirty eight percent of
his threes. My biggest thing isI understand why people. I understand.
I saw some of the comments wherethey're like, no, I don't want
Gary Harris, He's not that good. It's Detroit. I hate saying this,
but a lot of big name freeagents aren't gonna come to Detroit.
That's just the way it is.Oh and you just trash Jalen Brunston up

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and down this podcast. I did, because I mean, I'm not saying
he's the big name, but he'sthe biggest name we might pull this offseason.
That is true. But I don'twant the Pistons to pull on a
fake big name like Jalen Brunson.I would rather have them go for a
middle tier player. That can youcan plug in and he can play a
role. I'm not saying Gary Harrisis going to be a starter for Detroit.

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I mean, you know, Imean, if it's Gary Harris for
Corey Joseph, I'm taking I'm takingGary Harris any day of the week because
he's a little bit taller, he'sa good defensive player, and he can
hit a couple of threes. Wellwell, not only that, but you're
you're more than likely losing Jeremy Grantthis year. So you are going to
have to fill that that starter rolethis year, whether you elevate someone's role
off the bench, or you goout in either draft and or sign someone

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to that position. But I kindof want to go back because I said
all that in the beginning about theoffensive side of the ball between Kelly and
Hayes and Gary Harris. I meanthat the more I think about it,
the offensive struggles might not even matterbecause that defensive backcourt is going to be
absolute nasty. It really, itreally would be. But I think a

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lot of people are underestimating Gary's two. Again, I said a few minutes
ago, like I don't know whathappened to his offensive stroke because he was
an eighteen point scorer in his thirdfourth year in the NBA on a you
know, on the Denver Nuggets,like he looked like a solid guard for
them. I don't know what happenedto this shooting stroke. Maybe he got
hurt, Maybe there was a lossof confidence. Maybe him being traded hurt

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him in some way. I don'tknow if he'll ever be the eighteen point
score again, that's fine. Butif he if he can come in and
give you ten eleven, twelve pointsper game as a starter or as a
backup and kind of, you know, be one of those guys that can
take little pressure off Acade cunnihan bybringing the ball up. I'm okay with
it. It's gonna cost way lessthan twenty million. It's not gonna hurt
if you get the free agent signingwrong. It's not gonna hurt long term.

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And you know, he could playvery well in Detroit. He's he
played at Michigan State. It's ahomecoming for him. It's a reunion.
Yeah. And Gary Harris, asas I look at his career numbers,
Admittedly, Gary Harris is not anot a player. I'm not a stand
right like again, I just don'tdidn't watch Orlando basketball this year. Sorry
sue me, Orlando Magic fans didn'twatch Orlando basketball. But I mean,

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as I sit here and look athis career numbers, he played pretty much
the whole season every year of hiscareer except for two or well really one
year um where he played twenty gamesfor Orlando in only nineteen for Denver,
but high fifties seventies. So heis an iron man. But I think
to answer your question on what whowould I take, I honestly think I'm

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gonna I'm gonna take Jalen Brunson.Give me the guy that is a little
bit streaky that can absolutely light itup and torch a team on any given
night for thirty for forty and mayeven get a fifty piece being on this
Detroit Pistons team. Give me thatguy over maybe the proven ten points per
game guy. The only one ofthe things I'm worried about with if the

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Pistons signed Jalen Brunson, say fora twenty twenty five million dollar deal,
that's the type of contract that canhurt the Pistons in the long run.
When they start being competitive they wantto go sign more guys. You know
what I'm saying. It kind ofhandicaps what they can do with the roster.
Yeah, I mean, and isthat is that the word on the
street twenty to twenty five, BecauseI mean, if that's it, then

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I'm out on Jalen Brunson too.I don't think he's worth that. He's
not worth what Jeremy Grant has broughtto this team. No, And I
mean, yeah, you look atJeremy Grant, like you know, twenty
million is a steal for what JeremyGrant. He's also rex foot nine,
you know what I'm saying, Andhe can play a handful of positions,
and he's a good defensive player likeJalen Brunson. Even though the Phoenix Suns

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are hunting Luca don Sick on alot of ball screens and everything, Jalen
Brunson still hurts some defensively. Youcannot convince me otherwise. Look when DeAndre
Ayton switches on him and he's postinghim up. There is not a single
thing Jalen Brunson can do against DeAndreAnd I think, well, I mean
there are, but I mean that'sa hype thing. Put any guard in

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that situation. Steph Curry's not doinganything. Whoa any guard? We saw
what Killian Hayes did, Evan Mobley. Come on, Okay, I just
I just talked about Killian Hayes.Like you know, he's six foot five,
he's big, he's thick, he'sstrong, he can he can.
He can muscle some big men,same way that Marcus Smart can do it

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in Boston. Like those are uniqueguards. Jalen Brunson is not that unique.
So I think I'm done talking aboutJalen Brunson. Though I've talked about
him enough. Are gonna light upagain? Dude? I hope so,
I really do. But I'm outon Jalen Brunson to Detroit Brunson Slander episode
go right the podcast. Our nextsegment is Headlines. With Headlines, we

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bring you news stories, updates,a rumor or two, a quote or
two. We'll share the thoughts ifwe have any, and then we'll move
on. Joe Dumars named Executive vicepresident, head of Basketball Operations. Andrew.
When I tell you that, whatdo you think that means? I'm
putting you on the spot. Iwill share with you what it means.
Share what was his title? Onemore time. His title is he was

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named executive vice President, Head ofBasketball Operations. Of them, he's coordinating
all the uniforms operations. That isa great guess, But no, I'm
kidding. I just said that becausehonestly, because I'm on the page,
I know the story. Yeah,yeah, I'm just messing with you.

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So in his new role, deMars will oversee all basketball operations matters for
the NBA, including the development ofplaying rules, in interpretations, conduct and
discipline, and policies and procedures relationto the operation of games. He will
engage with players, coaches, teamexecutives, officials, and other key stakeholders
to sustain the highest level of playingcompetition. There is not a better former

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player that this position could have beengiven to. Joe Dumars is perfect in
this role. And I'm not evenbringing this story up just because it's Joe
Dumars. That's part of the reason. But I want to share this.
This came from Peter Vessey. Hetweeted this out. He said, nobody
ever accused Joe Dumars of doing anythingdirty between the lines. Still hiring one

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of the bad boys as the NBA'svice president of violence to met out fines
and suspensions is not something I couldhave imagined. I think he crossed the
line. What line did Joe Dumarscross? Did he cross the line by
accepting a job that was offered andgiven to him? Is that how he
crossed the line? That's foonery,clownery. I mean, what an idiotic

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thing to say. I mean,because a team had a reputation, a
man shouldn't be able to have acareer in the game that he helped build.
I mean, what's the whatever.That dude's name is straight clown.
He is his clown. It's sucha dumb take. The Sportsmanship Award is
named after Joe Dumars. He's theperfect former player for the job. Nobody

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in the NBA had a beef withJoe Dumars, despite him playing for the
Detroit before, despite him playing forthe Detroit Pistons during the Bad Boys era.
He is well respected. He's beenaround the NBA for almost forty years.
That experience and wisdom will only growthe game. Give me a guy
who has seen it all making thesedecisions, versus a guy who didn't play
for the Bad Boys. You knowwhat I'm saying, Like I've already said

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it before. Joe Dumars and hisexperience, in his wisdom and what he
brings to the game is only goingto be perfect for this role. He's
gonna be able to decide in termsof rules, how the game is played,
and where the game should be going, because like right now, during
these playoffs, we're getting a lotof questionable calls, things that wouldn't have
been called, things that are beingcalled that you know, probably shouldn't be

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called. It's we need someone inthe chair saying this can go and this
can stay to help grow the game. And jodum he's in the perfect role.
I have nothing else to say aboutit other than Peter Vessey, you
are an absolute clown for the tweetyou posted. Our next headline is how
John bee Line helps save George Blaha'slife. This article comes from Omari Sanco

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for the second If you have notread the article, please do. It's
an awesome interview, it's a greatstory. This is how we had.
I'm gonna give you guys a quicklittle synopsis on this. John bee Line
and George Blaha went to Holy TrinityCatholic Church on Georgetown's campus to receive their
ashes they had played the Washington WizardsMarch first. This is now on March
seconds. As these two are walkinga mile up hill, George Blaha feels

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tightness in his chest and started tohave a shortness of breath. This is
when John bee Line stepped in andtold George blah to go see a doctor.
John bee Line knew the signs ashe had a double bypass open heart
surgery back in twenty eighteen. Twoweeks later, George Blaha underwent triple bypass
surgery. He had three blockages thatstints couldn't repair. That's what the test
revealed. That is amazing in itself. Thankfully, George Blaha is still with

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with us. So George blahas isdoing great. He's near full health.
He was told to walk two thousandsteps every day, so he plays golf.
He will, yeah, why not. He will resume his duties as
a Pistons broadcaster and as the radiovoice for the Michigan State football next season.
I am so grateful that George Blahapulled it through. Matt. I've

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had my I've had my two centson George Blaha. How I think,
you know, I think it's timefor the Johnny Kane era to officially start
in Detroit. I know, Andrewyour thoughts are different than mine, but
even though I would rather have JohnnyKane in that broadcast seat, I'm very
grateful that George Blaha is doing wellwell In My position is look especially for

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since we saw Johnny Kine in along term role, he is definitely grooming
to be the next person in thatcolor commentating seat. Right, So he's
coming. But my position on GeorgeBlaha is he is such a goat that
he goes out on his own terms. No heart blockages, no nothing should

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kick George Blaha should sweep him outthe door. The only thing that should
take George Blaha out of that seatis George Blaha saying I'm done, you
know, and what he means tothe city, Yeah, I get it.
Johnny Kine's more exciting. Basketball isgoing towards a younger generation, and

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we have younger fans coming into youknow, Pistons fandom that didn't grow up
with George Blaha. Didn't listen toGeorge Blaha calling early two thousands going to
work team. And I mean evenpeople older than me are saying you didn't
listen to him calling the eighties andnineties teams right like, but being a

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kid to me turning on that DetroitPistons game and hearing George Blaha opening it
up, sitting right next to SpecialK you know, at every show and
listening to George Blaha count that babyin a foul and all of his other
euphemisms he uses. Man, youknow, I got a special place in

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my heart for George Blaha and he'she's a good guy. So that's that's
my two cents on George Blaha.No, I kind of went on a
rant about him, but obviously,just like you and just like every other
Pistons fan, absolutely overjoyed that Georgehas made it made it through. And
I hope he's enjoying golf and that'spart of his rehab and it'll be nice

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to hear him back on the callnext season. Is it sad that George
Blaha and Greg Kelser have been themost consistent people in my life? Like
I'm just sitting here thinking about it, like those are the only two people
that have never let me down inmy gel never woke up one morning and
told me he didn't love me.Now, only if he could get if

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he could just sing between a windmilland a regular dunk. Right, Yeah,
women come and go. George Blahi'sforever, Yes he is, Oh,
George Blaha man. I hope,I hope he gets to end his
time as a Pistons broadcaster in theplayoffs, hopefully with the Pistons holding a
championship trophy. We'll see what thefuture and tells. Final piece of headlines,

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Jeremy Grant trade rumor. We justgot this today. I believe this
hot off the press from Bleacher Report, if you want to call them the
press. According to Evan Damarill,he believes the Cavaliers are interested in Jeremy
Grant. The trade would be JeremyGrant to Cleveland. Cleveland would send over
Lorie Marketing Cares Lavert in a futurefirst round pick. What are your thoughts

(22:03):
real quick on that trade right there? Oh? I know you love one
of those three? Oh, Ido trade? I mean no, it's
it's definitely h not a bad one. And I want to preface this with
saying, Detroit fans, I'm sorry, I did not realize that this article
was was from Bleacher Report. Iwouldn't have called them the press. The
only press about Bleacher Report is themhaving to press enter to submit their articles.

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They're they're not press My bad Pistonsfans. I didn't I didn't mean
to give Bleacher Report no love,but I mean, yeah, absolutely,
and and that that pick this yearplus uh you know, Lorie Marketing.
He doesn't have a all that greatof a contract, right is he.
I can't remember his contract, buteither way, um, yeah, if
you can look it up while I'mtalking um the other two Karris Lavert coming

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in would be a lot of funin Detroit. A Michigan guy, you
know, coming in, coming backhome and the guy can play so and
that pick would I think that thattrade was suffice and I would be happy
with that trade if it were togo down. So according to spot track,
Lori Markening's contract is four years,sixty seven million, and it's average

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about sixteen seventeen million per year.Not a terrible contract for a seven high
I can shoot threes and rebound theball a little bit. I mean,
he's not great, He's not Dirklike what people thought he would be.
But that I think is a bettercontract than giving twenty million to jaylen Brunson.
So I'm all in on that trade. Ten out of ten times I
make that trade. Do you thinkit would be a mistake for the Pistons

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to let Jeremy Grant go? Idon't. I don't think it would be
a mistake, and I think wehave the absolute right person pulling the strings.
The reason being I don't think itwould be a mistake is I think
Troy Weaver is not just going topull the trigger on anybody. He's going
to do his due diligence. Andnot only that. As we say,

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Troy Weaver has has broad in guys. He's traded guys, he's waived guys,
but he's always brought in someone better. You know, there there's not
really many trades or albeit obviously avery young career, but there's not any
trades there. There's not any reallydraft picks that you go back and say
this, this made the team worse, like like drafted Seku Dumboya, drafted

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Helen Henry Ellenson like that, thatdidn't make the team better at all.
But but the people Troy Weaver hasbrought in have all tremendously helped out the
team, or helped out the teamenough to be traded for a guy like
the Marvin Bagley, Josh Jackson,and uh the other guy. I can
never remember both of their names.M Trey Lyles, yep Jinks, but

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uh yeah, Trey Lyles and JoshJackson moving them for for Marvin Bagley,
like like bringing in another guy that'sbetter than both of those guys combined.
And it is looking really good,looking like a guy the team wants to
keep around for at least the mediumterm. I won't say long term because
it's rumored three years, but Imean that that that pretty much wraps it

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up. So it's kind of interestingthat you're changing your tone on Jeremy Grant
though, because you were like kindof big on not trading him for the
longest time and now yeah, no, I mean like, I mean,
dude, I love it. Imean I'm glad that you're not. I
think. I mean, I thinklast year I was. I was a
little bit more against it because youknow, I wanted to see I definitely.
I mean, if you told meif the news came out today,

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like like the Marvin back everything,the Pistons want to sign Jeremy Grant a
three year deal, I wouldn't hateit at all. I mean, you
you mean to tell me, You'regonna give me another year to watch Jeremy
Grant, Kaide Cunningham, whoever thedraft pick is, Isaiah Stewart, Sadique
Bay and Killian Hayes. You're gonnagive me another year to watch those guys

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figure it out. A year wherethe team probably isn't going to be good
enough to make it to the playin Team play in spot, A year
where we don't even know if theteam is going to look to be competitive.
So so you mean to tell mewe're gonna keep Jeremy Grant for that
year and see what this could possiblybecome. Absolutely, I'm all down for
it. But I think with whereJeremy Grant is in his career, I

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think coming to Detroit was the bestmove for him, and I think both
sides see a better situation where theymove on from each other. It's a
it's not a bad breakup. Look, we're you know, we're gonna trade
Jeremy Grant to a situation where hecan be the focal point or a team

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that he wants to and the Pistonsare going to get good compensation in return.
This article also says why would bea mistake for Cleveland to trade Jeremy
Grant because he hasn't been that gooddefensively. Dude, you put Jeremy Grant
in the right role where he's likethe third, third, fourth option on
any given night. But he bringsthat energy defensively, like we saw after

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the All Star break when him andKade started to click. It would be
a great fit in Cleveland. Doesn'tmatter how many big man they have.
Jeremy Grant is a Swiss Army Knightif he can play all over the floor,
like that's what he brings. Well, I mean, yeah, come
on, man, how good doyou have to be on defense? When
I mean I know you said itdoesn't matter what big man they have,

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But when you're sticking Jeremy Grant nextto Jared Allen and Evin Mobiley, Colin
Sexton isn't a slouch on defense.Yeah, Like he's gonna flourish out there
exactly like you're gonna allow You're probablyeven gonna see a better defensive player with
Jeremy Grant because when you have EvanMobley and Jared Allen backing him up,
it's kind of like what Ben Wallacewas alluding to. You you can make

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these you can gamble a little bitmore defensively with those guys behind you,
knowing that they're going to clean upyour mistake. So I think you would
actually get a better Jeremy Grant,and you probably get a better defensive Jeremy
Grant when it comes to like statistics, like you know, the blocks and
the steels, the things that peoplemeasure defense by. So I don't think
it's a bad trade if Cleveland broughtin Jeremy Grant. I think it makes

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it's it's like a perfect marriage forwhat they got going on. Like I
would love that trade not only forgetting Lorie marketing and cares Lavert in the
future first, but also I lovethat trade for what, you know,
the situation that Jeremy Grant gets togo to. He's not being left on
some or deserted on some crappy team. He would be on a team that
is competing for a playoff spot,you know, and his game is only

(28:32):
going to shine with those guys.So I have no problem with yeah,
And I mean I just I absolutelycannot get off that defensive thing, like
what a terrible take. Like Ijust because if I'm the coach and I
bring in Jeremy Grant. My guardsare switching everything, and I'm switching everything
three through five, every thing becauseEvan Mobley, Jared Allen, and Jeremy

(28:56):
Grant can handle it. Yeah,Jeremy might get beat up from him to
time if he switches on a realbig, dominant big. But think of
any dominant big in the league.Let's take first one to come. Carl
Anthony thowns he's dominant because he doesit to everybody like it's not. Because
it's Jeremy Grant guarding him, iswhat I'm saying. But yeah, I

(29:18):
just can't get off of that.Don't trade for him because he's bad on
defense? Come on, man,that just say you don't watch the Pistons
exactly like you. You can saya lot about Jeremy Grant, but to
call him bad on defense ridiculous.He's almost as much as a clown as
our last clown. We need tostart a clown of the Week segment.
Yes we do, Yes we do. Sadique Bay has made three hundred and

(29:42):
eighty six three pointers as a DetroitPiston. He's twenty three three pointers away
from tying Chucky Atkins. How manygames into next season does it take for
sidiqu Bay to tie and break ChuckyAtkins record. How many does he need?
I know you just said he needstwenty three too, I believe Oh
it's time money three. Yeah.How many games do you think it will

(30:02):
take siddy Bay to get twenty threethree pointers to tie Chuck Atkins. When
he ties Chucky Atkins, he willbe tenth all time for the Detroit Pistons.
By the way, I would sayhe's really flirting with breaking it around
ten games, and he gets itanywhere from twelve to I'm gonna say fourteen.

(30:23):
It would be easy to say fifteen, we get suit in the first
fifteen games, but I'll take astep step lower and say he gets it
between twelve and fourteen. So Iwas I was really thinking about this,
and realistically, I think siddy Baycould do it in four or five games,
depends on how well he's shooting theball. Really obviously I shouldn't even
have to say that, right,But realistically, I think it takes him

(30:47):
eight to ten games. That's whatI think. I think it. I
think it will be early on inthe season where he ties and passes,
you know, Chucky Atkins, andthen he's right on the cusp of you
know, taking the spot away fromKintavious called Wolpope. But did you know
that Sadiq Bay only needs to maketwo hundred three pointers next season and that
would push him to number four onthe Pistons all time leader for three pointers

(31:08):
made. That's absolutely crazy and it'sa It's a testament to how far the
game at the game of basketball itselfhas changed and also a testament of how
unwilling the Detroit Pistons organization was tochange for years. Like it's it's been
no secret that the league has beenmoving towards mobile bigs, bigs that can

(31:34):
shoot. But I mean we stillagain, people are gonna say Isaiah Stewart,
and yes, some of our bigscan shoot three sometimes, but we
still in Detroit don't have a superviable big man three point shooter. But
yeah, for how long? WhenI mean when when he's on the floor

(31:56):
and he's not hurt? Yeah,I just met how much longer? Oh?
Yeah, I don't know. Probablylike he's probably lacing him up in
the in the oh. I wasthinking he's done this year. Oh yeah,
yeah, I see what you're saying. I thought you met like when
he were yeah, he's probably lacinghim up in a Pistons gym this offseason.
But no, I think it's kindof crazy too because I always thought
of Rashid Wallace as this guy thatwould buy him away three pointers and I

(32:20):
was really surprised that he's only madefive eighty one of them in eats Troy
Pistons uniform because it like every highlightthat I've not every highlight, but a
majority of highlights I've seen a RashidWalls in a Pistons jersey, it's of
him shooting a three pointer, right, Like, I mean he did this
a lot. I mean like a, yeah, how bad was he a
shooting threes? Where he only madefive eighty one, I'm curious to see

(32:44):
how many he took in a Pistonsuniform to get five eighty one. But
I'm more impressed with Sadiq Bay thathe has the shot at passing Rashid Wallace
in his fourth year on the alltime three pointers list for the Detroit Pistons.
Yeah, that is that's shocking.Again, I just I think it's

(33:05):
more of a testament to how farthe game has come without looking at the
numbers and just simply going off memory, you know, and sometimes memory isn't
always right. But I would assumeRashid had a not so bad three point
career average for the Pistons. Oh, I'm gonna look it up right now.
I think I'm just willing to saythat. But I think it's more

(33:29):
of a testament to the Steph Curry'scoming in and really revolutionizing the game,
where the kids coming up didn't wantto play down low and and everybody wanted
to shoot threes. Okay, whatare you more surprised by for Rasheed Wallace
his forty three percent from the fieldor his thirty five percent from three.

(33:52):
I don't know if either one ofthose surprised me. I mean, like
I said, you know, Idon't think that's subpartioe. I guess maybe
the inside the art number. Iwould expect I would remember that to be
higher. Yeah, I'm really surprisedbecause this is kind of a where I'm

(34:13):
not trying to get off of thetopic, but since we're talking about Rashid
Wallas, this has always been thething that bothered me about him, Like
there he had so much talent asa basketball player, like he really could
have been one of the all timegrades but you see forty three percent from
the field, and that's kind ofpathetic really for a guy that had all
the talent like he did, youknow, forty three percent from the field

(34:35):
for Rashid Wallace, Like, Ican live with the three point percentage,
But if I didn't have looked thatup, I could have I would have
been really confident telling you probably shotlike low fifties or high forties. Well,
yeah, you think you think asheet and you think a down low
you know in the post. That'swhy I said probably the inside the arc
number surprised me. I would Iwould expect that to be up higher because
more of his shots coming at therim. Yeah, I mean I could

(34:59):
look up know like what a showwas within from three feet and I'm sure
that's a lot higher than forty threefor another podcast. Yeah, but just
the fact that it's forty three percentfrom the field, what were we doing?
It's amazing that the Pistons won achampionship with this guy from the future
signs of the Times. My guy. Jeez, I wish I could go
back and just kick him in thebutt and be like, bro, figure

(35:20):
this out. I want to seeyou go to the Hall of fame,
Um, would you feel down ifthe Pistons went for the tank next year?
This was a little confusing to someof our listeners. Yeah, because
it's terribly worded. Yeah, whatever, dude, whatever, Like why would
you not just say would you beupset of the Pistons tank next year?
Well? Because I who, doyou got the blues? You're trying that

(35:40):
you're starting a jazz man? Wouldyou have the blues if the Pistons the
tank? I thought it was agreat question. I thought it was perfectly
but hang on, Yeah, LikeI remember tweeting it. Like one of
the first comments we got, Iforget who it was from, but they
were like, do you mean feeldown as like you would feel bad?

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Yeah, it wasn't hard to get. Yeah. Like bro, I mean,
like I said, would you feellike would you feel down about the
Pistons team? To answer, Imean no, I think I said it
early this this podcast, where Idon't we don't know if the team expects
to be competitive next season. Imean I would really think not with with

(36:24):
where we are, We're not goinglisten to Pistons fans, listen to me
right now. We are not goingfrom a twenty win team to a forty
win team. I'm sorry, it'snot it's not happening. Yes, Kay
Cunningham and is a savior Savior.Yes, we have another top pick.
We are not doubling our win total. We are not going to be fighting

(36:46):
for a sixth seed. I meanmaybe a play in spot if literally everything
goes right. But again, Imean I think for for next season,
I'm expecting obviously more than twenty wins. I think you can get to the
twenty eight win maybe maybe low thirtiesif if things go right again. But

(37:09):
no, I mean playing the tankingthe way the Pistons do is not right.
It's not as horrible to watch becauseit's not real tanking. Like.
Look, these guys are going outtrying to win. They were not putting
together. Although at times this seasondue to injury and COVID and whatever else

(37:31):
was was going on, dog died. We saw lineups with almost all five
G league guys. But this teamis not going out and just playing G
League guys for the sake of itand blowing these games. This team is
not getting blown out night in andnight out. This team is competitive and

(37:52):
playing with the NBA's best teams.You can say a lot of things about
the Detroit Pistons. They're a badteam, they're not a good team team,
but you better carry your hard hatwhen you come into Detroit because this
team is gonna play you and wedon't care who you are, and we
don't care how much ten year youhave in the league. We saw it
with Isaiah Stewart and Lebron James.You're gonna have to play us for forty

(38:14):
eight minutes. Yeah, I wouldn'thave a problem with the Pistons tanking next
year. It would not bother meat all. I just don't because again,
it's the way they tank. They'reout there, they're competing, they're
fighting every game like I'm even thoughit could be kind of boring, and
when you're watching the NBA playoffs andyou see what a really good basketball team
is like, you're like, dangduI can't believe I watched this for eight

(38:35):
games. This is crazy. Butagain, the way they tank, like
they're a competitive team. They goout there and they fight, they scrap,
they're doing. They put the hardhats on, like you're saying,
like, they go out there andthey battle, like I'm okay with it.
If they keep losing and they getanother high draft pick. That's fine.
Like I mean, even though I'vebeen preaching I don't really care about
a top three pick or not,Like it doesn't bother me at all,
especially when you got a guy likeTroy Weaver, you know, making the

(38:59):
decisions like he's good at it,So I don't have a problem with the
taking. It's not gonna be down. Like I just feel like if you
want the Pistons to rebuild properly,you're gonna have to expect another bad season
next year. You're gonna have toexpect a lot of losses and you know,
some some droughts, like you know, some non scoring runs for the

(39:20):
Pistons, like minutes during games wherethey're not hitting the basket. Like that
is a very realistic thing we soughtthis past season, and depends on how
much roster turnover we have this year, you know, we're probably gonna see
more of the same of it.The thing I don't want to see from
the Pistons. I don't want tosee them spend a ton of money on
guys that aren't going to move theneedle in the win column and get stuck
in this weird basketball purgatory where youknow, even though they got k they

(39:45):
can't really make any good decisions becausethey made bad decisions. And the other
thing I want to see is,even though I just said I don't want
to see them spend money unnecessarily,but if the Pistons go out this offseason
and they're aggressive and they find someupgrades at some of these positions, like
the starting shooting guard, you know, maybe some of the backup spots,
and they get some you know,some other guys that aren't on two way

(40:07):
contracts or aren't you know, andget some guys that won't be playing in
the G League most of the season, because let's be honest, the Pistons
played a lot of G League playersthis year, sometimes out of necessity.
But you know, I mean,the less Jamarco Pickett minutes I can see,
the happier I am well. AndI mean that that guy came in
into a situation where he came inbecause of an injury and played his way

(40:30):
into getting more minutes, like heearned all of his minutes. Yeah,
he's all right at basketball. ButI'm just saying, like I would if
there is another reason for you know, because you have to play Jamarco pick
or someone else. I'd rather havean upgrade than than Jamarco Pickett. Like
it's no offense, ja Marco Pickett. You know. But here's what my
point. If the Pistons are goingto spend money, I want to see

(40:52):
them make upgrades. Now. Ifthey don't spend money and they don't make
upgrades, I'm gonna hate this season. I Am not going to enjoy it.
But if they make upgrades and theystill lose a lot of games,
but the team is developing and gettingbetter, I'm okay with it. I'm
not gonna feel down. I'm notgoing to be upset. I'm okay with
it. Like that is fine withme. So guy ran the poll.
We had one hundred and fourteen votes. Awesome for us. Sixty seven percent

(41:15):
said yes, thirty three percent no. I get at Pistons fans, we're
all ready for the playoffs. Wewant that atmosphere back in Little Caesar's Arena.
I can't wait for playoff basketball inDetroit either. I don't want just
to go to the playoffs and say, oh, well up, we made
it, but then not actually ableto make a real run the following years
because we the Pistons handicapped themselves bysigning bad players. So I'm okay with

(41:37):
the tank. Like, as longas the tank leads to better days in
Detroit, I'm okay with the tank. Yeah, I mean I like it.
I can't. I think I kindof summed it up and he summed
it up right there. Yeah,And anytime I have a poll, I
will be screenshotting it before I postthis. You can read it over because
apparently I don't know how to putthings together. So that's gonna be expect

(42:00):
a lot of texts this upcoming week. So you tag me in a couple
of things on Facebook, a lotof videos, a lot of different basketball
talk, you know, talking headstalking about Isaiah Thomas and Steph Curry and
the beef between Michael Jordan and IsaiahThomas. How everybody hated the Pistons.

(42:20):
I'm glad you did. I'm sorrywe don't get to talk about a lot
of it. But there is onetopic that I do want to bring on
the podcast, and it's who areyou taking on your all time team,
Stephen Curry or Isaiah Thomas. Now, before you answer that question, I
want to know what's your all timestarting five and where does Thomas or Steph
Curry fit with that lineup? Ohmy all time starting five, I don't

(42:42):
think either one of them are onit. Wow, I really I came
into this podcast expecting you to pickIsaiah Thomas no matter what I mean,
I try to and I really reallylike in my free time, I've said
it a ton of times. Ihate these kind of things, like because
there's no right answer, and allit leads into is arguing you're so stupid

(43:02):
for not putting this player X,Y and Z here, you know.
But I mean I just because ofthe position they play, I would go
magic on my all time at one. I mean that having a seven foot
point guard. I mean you couldgo cheesy and say, you know,

(43:22):
well, Bron plays the one fromtime to time, so you would go
Lebron. But I think at myone all time team, like we like
to say all the time, onegame to save the universe, I'm going
magic at my one. Who areyou taking a two guard? I'm very
curious about this two. I betyou're taking Kobe, aren't you? You

(43:45):
feel like a Kobe guy? Iam. I mean I even have a
I have a the Kobe logo tattooedon me with with the words girl dad.
But but uh, yeah, no, it would definitely probably be Kobe
or or Dwayne Waite at the two. I have a lot of love for
Alan Iverson too, and it's hardfor me not to say AI. But

(44:08):
he just you know what he uhit went sour his time in Detroit,
So I guess yeah, give mecode. I'm surprised, though, how
come you, like, why wouldn'tyou pick Michael Jordan at the two guard
spot? I mean, is thatjust too easy for you? Can you

(44:28):
call you well, I mean,can you call yourself a Pistons fan and
pick him? Oh my gosh,dude, don't even say that. I
mean, I'm sorry, come on, I know there's someone out there that
field. There's someone in their carright now, like, yep, yep,
he's right right now, someone isin their car Like yeah, no,
we ain't picking him. No,No, you're right. There are
a few Pistons fans that are likethat. Okay, so you got Magic

(44:50):
and Kobe, you're definitely going Lakersheavy. Who's your three spot for your
all times? My three? Ohman, I didn't even think about that
because the Pistons had some some big, big, big rivalries with the Lakers
too. Um, but uh,my three, give me give me you're
picking Lebron, You're picking Kevin Durant. That's literally the two that that came

(45:14):
in my mind because my four isis pretty much a lock. Um,
give me, give me Miami Lebron. Oh okay, I like that.
Who's at your four? I wantto know this lock? Kevin Garnett?
Okay, I like that. Alot of love for Dirk there too,

(45:34):
But Kevin Garnett is a dog andhe's definitely my you know, I praised
Patrick Beverley a lot on these pastcouple podcasts. He's definitely like the Patrick
Beverley mold like Kevin Garnett walked.So Patrick Beverley can run. M interesting.
Who's your five? My five hereagain? Gonna have to go Lakers

(45:58):
heavy? Give me shack? Ohinteresting? Alright, alright, alright,
you want to hear my all timestarting for I've been dying to share this,
so at point guard, I'm actuallygoing Steph Curry. I I built
my tete it. Yeah, Solike on my all time team, I
like, I go with the sameschool thought you do. Like if I
have to put a team together tosave the universe. I want all these

(46:20):
guys kind of playing to their strength. So I go Steph Curry at the
point guard because he gives me alead shooting. He gives me a closer
at the end of the game becausehe's very good from the from the foul
line. He's a solid dribbler.But I don't need him bringing the ball
up on every possession at the twoguards. Some Pistons fans are gonna hate
me. I'm taking Jordan. Ineed the ultimate competitor. I need the
alpha male at the two guard spot, the guy that I can just give

(46:43):
the ball to and say, gowin me the game. That's what I
got in Jordan. At three,I got Lebron James because he's gonna,
like you were kind of talking toyou, like you could put him at,
you know, the one spot andsay he's your point guard. I'm
not putting him at the one,but Lebron James is very much gonna lead
my offense. He's going to controlthe tempo, in the pace, He's
gonna feed the hot hands. Thefour spot is hard for me though,

(47:05):
because I have a couple of names. I've narrowed down to three people Tim
Duncan, Dirk, Kevin Durant toplay my four. They all bring different,
you know, unique levels of basketball. I've cut Kevin Durant from the
conversation because I don't like if he'snot scoring the ball, Like, how
good has he had everything else?Does he? I know he's a good
defender. I know that it's hardfor me to leave Katie off. It

(47:30):
is, but I mean, doeshe buy into what I'm trying to do.
That's the other thing, Like,obviously I don't know that. I
kind of get an assumption based onhow he, you know, talks about
teams and now he talks to themedia. I get an idea of who
he is, but I don't knowif he buys in. Plus already got
Jordan, I got Lebron, Igot Steph. Do I really need another
score right there? I need aguy that can space the floor. But

(47:50):
does Kevin Durant just want to bea floor space around this team? I
have no idea. So I'm actuallygonna go Dirk. I can afford to
lose a little defense at the fourspot as long as I'm getting arguably the
greatest big man shooting the ball everin dirt space the floor and at the
five spot, I'm actually going toKim elij One. It was between him
and Shack, but yep, Iwant that anchor defensively, and I love

(48:13):
a Kim elij One. Man.No, I I don't hate your team,
but my team is going to wipethe floor with you. I do
this two. You're not I mean, Steph's not not containing magic. It's
like, nah, man, myteam is gonna kill you. I think
I'm still going to destroy you.Okay. How many Pistons would you take

(48:34):
on your all time team though?If you can pick yeah, well,
I mean not just you're starting lineup. But I'm just saying, if you
were going to build a twelve manteam to save the universe, how many
Detroit Pistons, whether current, pastor long gone, are you taking on
your team? I mean, I'msorry, I'm not taking any current I
mean, it is what it is. I mean, look, look,

(48:57):
look, look, you know beforeyou jump down my wrote and say the
obvious Kaid Cunningham, I'm sorry.I just haven't seen enough of him yet
to put him on my all timeteam, like slow down, like he
can get there, and we allhope he does. But if you're in
your car now after you were justlike, yeah, he's right about that
last thing. Now you're like,screw that guy, Like pump the brakes,

(49:19):
hold the horses. We're good.So so no current guys. I
mean, obviously Zeke's gonna be upthere. Um, twelve man and I
bet, yeah, I have two. I mean I probably yeah, probably.
I was thinking like you could probablyarguably make a make a list of
two, um, possibly push itup to four. Yeah, I think

(49:43):
I think I'm firmly at three thatI would possibly take kind of team.
But I know that I'm definitely takingtwo. I'm taking Dennis Rodman because he
just gives me so much versatility defensively, Like I gotta have a guy like
that that can card one through five. I think that's incredible. The second
pis and I'm taking. It mightsurprise a lot of people, but I'm
actually taking Ben Wallace to be onmy team. He might be my twelfth

(50:05):
man. But if I'm a coachand I got Ben Wallace on my team,
and I'm like, look, I'mgonna give you like twelve minutes a
game. I just need you togo to block as many shots as you
can shut down whoever you don't worryabout and yep, don't worry about fouls
and go give me as many reboundsas you can if I can, if
you get twelve minutes of Ben Wallaceis going as hard as he can,
Dude, you got a player.So that's why I would take Ben Wallace.

(50:27):
Maybe people listening wouldn't make a lotof sense to them, but it
makes sense in my mind. Thethird Piston though, that I would I
could see myself taking, would beIsaiah Thomas to be the backup point guard,
just because he's a good ball handler. You know, I need another
guy that can handle the ball,take pressure off the other guys, someone
that I can trust to bring theball up and run the offense and get
the ball into the right hands.But yeah, like those are the three

(50:49):
guys that would possibly take. I'mdefinitely taking Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman.
It's no disrespect to Isaiah Thomas.Like he's an incredible basketball player, right,
I mean, you're you know,and this is a piss podcast and
we just went through our all timefives and no Pistons got on it.
We're not trying to be you know, Homer's here or you know, anything
like that. But you know,you can't also just put the pistons on

(51:15):
there because you're a fan of them. Yeah, exactly, Like I mean,
I mean you could, but Imean it's it's it's such a boring
topic when people do that, likeit aren't like right, you know.
I it's like the weird thing whenwe're always talking about football and someone's like,
well, who's your all time runningback in like nine out of ten
people say Barry Sanders, And thenif you don't say Barry Sanders, you

(51:35):
look like the idiot. I hatewhen sports discussions go that way, even
if they are hypotheticals. It's like, dude, there are other That's why.
That's why I stay out of them. All the who's better Lebron or
or Jordan or all that guard Likethere's no right answer there there. Really,
they're both kings of their own era. Look, you know, some
people say Mike wouldn't be able tokeep up in in this era, and

(52:00):
I'm talking about people that actually playthe game, people that have been in
the league, Like the skill levelis just increased. And then there's the
people on the other side of itsay, dude, you're absolutely out of
your mind, that's the greatest basketballplayer to ever grace this earth. To
think he wouldn't adapt and change,you know, and you're never gonna see

(52:20):
it. Mike's not gonna unretire andbe Prime Mike and play in this era,
So arguing about it is futile tome. Remember in like the Rocky
Balboa movie where they made they didthe video game simulation of prime Rocky versus
like whoever the heavyweight champion of theworld was at that time, in Rocky
beat him. I don't even thinkthat would do justice in a game of
one on one between Lebron and MichaelJordan. So there is no real way

(52:45):
of you know, ending that debateon who the greatest of all time is.
My thing on that whole discussion isif you're in an all time draft
and you're drafting one or two andyou don't take Michael Jordan or Lebron James
at one or two, I thinkyou're crazy, you know what I'm saying,
And like, those are two ofthe greatest basketball players I've ever watched
play. And I mean I didn'tget to watch a lot of Jordan because

(53:06):
I was so young when he wasplaying, But I watched the ninety eight
finals and I fell in love withthe game, you know, and I
mean took a little hiatus before thePistons got good. But anyways, you
know, Jordan was one of thegreatest that I've ever watched. Lebron is
one of the greatest ever watched.It's always silly to me when I hear
people say, well, I wouldtake this guy at one he's better than
both these guys. Dude, dude, you're crazy, Like, I mean,

(53:27):
there's no way you watch those twoand say, yeah, I'm gonna
take Chamberlin over both of them,You're like, no. Yeah. And
to the crowd that says Lebron wouldn'tbe able to play back in Jordan's eric
because of the defense, I mean, come on, that's the silliest argument
out of any of them. Yeah, I mean it really is. Like,
dude, he's six foot eight,two hundred and what sixty pounds a

(53:47):
yeah, all muscle, Like thedudes built like a brick house, and
he was like a four or fivestar recruit in football, Like the dude
can take a hit Like I meanthis, this whole idea that he couldn't
play in that area is just everyplayer, maybe except for a few.
I guess I would have to lookat a list of every current NBA player,
But every guy currently playing in theNBA could play in any other era

(54:09):
of basketball. Yeah, Like theskill level is just too high, right,
Yeah, And say say what youwant about the game, Yes,
it has gone to more of anoffensive centric game overall, but the defense
and the offense is light years aheadof the skill level of like going to

(54:32):
or going back to the Bad Boysera. It's just light years ahead.
These players are so much more skilledthan what we had in the fifties,
sixties, seventies, eighties, andnineties exactly. And I want to take
it a step back to like thereare players that I've watched that played in
the seventies, played in the eighties, played in the ninth well, I
mean, I'm gonna stop at thenineties. Played in the seventies and the

(54:55):
eighties, probably even late sixties.There's a handful of guys that I truly
believe that you could It's like acrab claw. It's like one of those
a claw machine games where you canjust you know, you take the claw
and you pick it over the prize, you hit the bun It picks it
out for you. If you coulddo that with past NBA players, there's
a handful of them that you couldpick up and put in today's era and

(55:15):
they would be perfectly fine. Itruly believe that Jerry West. I watched
some old actually went back on YouTubeand watched some old games of him.
Dude, he was light years aheadof everybody in his time. That's a
guy that I think you could pickup, give him a week of training,
and he would average twenty five agame in today's NBA that I have
no doubt in my mind that JerryWest could do something like that, saying

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with Pistol, Pete Maravich, CreamAbdul Jabbar, Elgin Baylor, these are
guys that I think were they wereso far ahead of what of their you
know, their opponents, their counterpartsat that time, that you really could
just pick them up and pluck themand they'd be fine in today's NBA.
I have no doubt my mind aboutthat. And I wanted to say that
because I didn't want to disrespect theold heads that listen to this podcast and

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the guys that came before that havemade this game so great. By saying
every player currently in the NBA canplay in any era. I just I
just believe that because the skill levelis so good. These guys are great,
man, Like, there are twelfthMen's on teams that would have been
starters and probably all stars in theseventies, you know, even in the
eighties that are playing today. Soyou know, I just don't think it's
that crazy of a thing to sayabout those guys. I'll with you to

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the last part. Okay, that'sfine. You can definitely not be against
me, That's totally fine. ButI think that's a good way to end
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