Adam Burns - Don Anderson - Robert Fullington : Men Of The Mantids - Experiencer Interviews

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of Experiencer Interviews.
And today we have a very special panel of MANTED
contactees here to share with us their incredible knowledge. We
have Adam Burns, Don Anderson and Rob Follington, all past
XI guests. Adam Burns is a novelist and works by

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day as a designer. He lived on greyhound buses for
a year writing his first novel and adapted his second
into a feature screenplay. While working as an art teacher
on a Hopi reservation, Adam saw a gray alien standing
right in front of him, then it walked behind some
trees and was gone. Years later, he investigated this via

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hypnosis and uncovered ill lifetime of contact. Several beings have
been visiting Adam and guiding giving him guidance and support.
Imanted being a small white gray, a hybrid, and a
different kind of gray. Adam wakes up with scoop marks,
puncture wounds, and bruises. He also had a visit from
the Men in Black while at the hospital and has

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had many UFO sightings. Adam's story appears in Lester Vles's
book about the alien experience called The Unknown Other and
the Existential proposition of alien contact, and has also appeared
twice on Landa Molton House earth Files YouTube channel. Don
Anderson was born in Glendale, California, in nineteen fifty nine.

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In his early years, he has always believed the homes
he has lived in were haunted, only to discover they
or not a result of spirit hauntings, but numerous abduction
and contact experiences which only increased in frequency and intensity
as he grew older. Then, one night in the summer
of nineteen eighty four, as a single parrot himself to

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a young boy, they both were taken from their room
and carried through a beam onto a craft which was
floating in the air across the street from their home.
When he was placed back in his bed after the event,
he immediately had an instant recall of a lifetime of
past contact experiences, which included watching himself being scored into

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the delivery room where he was being born with a
gray being who was reminding him not to forget who
he was. The experiences continued throughout his life on a
shamanic level, as well as being a contactye with remembered experiences.
These experiences were followed up by military abduction experience and
a real time contact experience involving erase of beings referred

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to as the Praying Mantis with three others in the
high country of Utah, not too far from the Skinwalker Ranch.
Rob Fullington served briefly in the US Army before returning
to civilian life in the paint trade. Through a dramatic
awakening process beginning at the age of twenty eight, he
came to understand that he is an ET human hybrid.

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This process accelerated through ongoing interactions with the mantis beings
called Kekaresh. He began to receive designs for two D
and three D images and objects he terms consciousness amplifying technologies,
the purpose of which is to help people accelerate their
personal growth. In twenty fifteen, he shared his experiences with

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Miguel Medonza and Barbara Lamb and the book Meet the Hybrids,
The Lives Ambitions of ET Ambassador's on Earth. He was
featured in the J three Films documentary called Extraordinary The Seating, where,
through in depth, harrowing interviews with contact keees and frank
conversations with eupology experts, Extraordinary the Seating explores alien hybridization programs,

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why their happening and their impact? Darn humanity. Robert also
appeared in an episode of Ancient Aliens called The Project Hybrid,
which aired in twenty nineteen, and UFO Witness on Discovery Plus. So, gentlemen,
thank you so much for coming back on.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oh thanks for Alens.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now to set the stage of today's interview, can you
get into some of your past contact experiences, especially those
with the mantids. So Adam, let's start off with you, Hi.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, the the very it all started consciously for me
when I was working on the Hope Reservation and as
an art teacher in a summer camp, and I saw
a gray alien, the typical small, white gray, and it
was just about fifteen feet away from me, and it

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was just staring at me at night, and then it
just turned and walked behind some pinon trees and I
ran out and wasn't there. And like many people have
these unexpected experiences, as an atheist who didn't believe in aliens,
particularly at the time, and was not remotely interested in them,

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I just didn't think about it. It was strange. I
never gave it another thought. I thought, ah, whatever, I
guess I guess that was an alien, and then I
never thought about it, which is bizarre. It's a bizarre reaction,
and a lot of people have that, so I've since
subsequently read. But anyway, later on I was researching a
novel I'm writing where I wanted to be faithful to

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experiences and do some research and get it right rather
than just do a Hollywood you know, mash up of them,
which and you know, not be respectful. And then I
was just quite sort of surprised at how many things
I had in common with these people. And then I
did regressions and trying to move quickly. I'm skipping a lot,
but I did some regressions in the very first one

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involved a manted and then I've had many.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I've had twelve essians.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I've had more than that, but twelve where I was
successful in contact, and and about half of those are
with demented. And the first one was I was on
the table and it was it was in a production scenario,
and demented just just came and looked like this, but

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and then did that with its head, so and it
was a massive head. I sent you an illustration. It
was about three feet highe ahead and and it had
scales like a like a crocodile, and large omitted I
eyes like insect eyes that were more or less on
the side, that were dark brown, and they caught the

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light with like gold flecks, as I could see all
their little hexicans in the eyes and between the scales
were like tiny little hairs. And I mean, it was
really close and and just one of the things that
that I found encouraging was that I didn't know until
i'd read much later that a lot of people who

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experience with demand have experienced that weird right angle of
its neck like its body was here, but its neck
was like that, and it as opposed to what we
would do, we would turn. And that was interesting for
me that that happened without me reading about it. And
I had, you know, a conversation with that manteed, and

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then have subsequently had many experiences since then, which perhaps
we should get too later when we get into specifics.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Thank you, don how about you?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
This looks like I was more or less a born
again Christiana at the time, and so I was really
heavily involved in my religious affiliation, and this gray appeared
to me in the room in noither summer of nineteen
eighty four is early June and nineteen eighty four, and
he was floating off in the corner of the room.
It was in the basement, and he looked at me,

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and he looks at my son and points to him like, hey,
we want to come and get him, because he was
just about five years old. I looked at her, I said,
you know, if I go with you, he's not going
to be scared. So it was just like we were
old friends, right, like I knew him, like I was
very familiar with him. He just said, if you let

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me go with him, he's not going to be scared,
and so he agreed to this. We both floated through
this light into the ship and we met some tall
I don't know they are Pleaadians. It was just put
that way. They're Pleaadians, and we had this conversation. We
walk around on the ship and there's a lot of experiences,
and when they put me back into my bed, I

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immediately had like this past life. People will say you
have a past life review when you die. This was
like a past life review of all the contact experiences
I had had at that point plus before life. When
I was walking into the delivery room with a gray
and we're observing my mother giving birth to me at

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that particular point. And this led to an experience we
had probably about fifteen years later, summer of nineteen eighty nine.
I mean nineteen ninety eight ninety nine necessarily shared the
exact year, but I know it was in the late nineties. Well,
we went up to a friend's place and we stayed

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up in the high mountains outside of vernal Utah close
to Skinlocker Ranch. We had the place that we stayed
in and we had a live contact experience with the
praying mantis, and you could see them running around the yard,
but it was it was kind of like a shadow
world where I could look in and I could we
could see three mantis running around because they came in threes,

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and they had this chirping sound that they did when
they were, like an echoing sound or something that they
would do. And one of them would come stand in
front of us, and you could see this nine foot
tall mantis with these big sauce or eyes. They're like
rise must have been like this big, you know, they
were huge, and there he would covid stare at us
every once on Then they would just take off and

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go do their thing. This went off for quite a while,
and then we had this additional experience afterwards where all
of a sudden we all just felt like, hey, this
is all we got to go to sleep. But the
experience that we had was all night long, basically. But
I found myself on the ship with one of these

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mantis beatings and he was like my guided companions walking
on this ship, and he was showing me my past,
my future life. I guess I looked at it. I
would go deja root and said, what's that? He was
deja voot. There was like a big screen that we'd
placed up above our heads and you could see these
images walking across. I look at him and say, what's that.

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He says, that's deja voot. Okay, and then he takes
me out from there, and it just the experiences just
kept going on and on and on. I know, you
just want to be a little short introduction on that.
And I wake up in the morning and my body
is fried. I mean, it feels like I'm burning from
the inside out and all these experiences are popping in

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my head. And it took me probably an hour and
a half before my body calmed down and it was
cool again. I mean it was cold outside. It was
like maybe about thirty five degrees and the window was
opened up in my head above the trailer. In the trailer,
so it should have been cold, but I was burning.
But it was, like I said, it was really weird

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because like it's from the inside out. It wasn't from
the outside in. And that was one of the most
enlightening experiences I ever had in my life. It was
like you're walking with angels. I guess that's the best
way to do that. The energy was so intense, it
was so cool.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Amazing.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Things have just.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Kept going on, though, how about you, Rob.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well in the short the short compressed version, right is
about two thousand and nine. I became aware of my experiences.
At first, I thought, you know, when I was younger,
I had some odd things happen. I thought it was ghost.
You know, this whole time, I'm a twinless twin, so

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I thought that it was the ghost of my twin
brother that was haunting me this whole time. Right, So
you know, we fast forward two thousand and nine. I
was twenty nine years old, and that's when I started
getting kind of sick, you know, the whole I was
at two hundred and ten pounds and I went down
to one hundred and fifty with some mystery illness. And

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that's when the ships started coming around. About that time.
My big awakening craft was December, December two thousand and nine,
and that was a you know, black triangle about the side.
I'd say it's like a black purplish crystal triangle the
size of a house. You know. That had to give

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us a forty five minute encounter. And I mean that's
just the whole story in itself. But uh that the
night the night before, I was having you know, these tall,
tall white grays coming in, uh, interacting with me, and
they took me up and a mantis being and that

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tall gray showed me this future event you know, which
we can we can get into later.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
So it was it was a pretty uh I don't know, uh,
a dragster acceleration experience experiences where I went just had
a complete life change. My first physical three D encounter
with the mantis being was you know, I was really

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really scared about what was happening to me, and I
was trying to you know, get some answers and I
came upon my mentor's website at the time, Cynthia Crawford,
and she made these statues and there was a little statue.
She brought out the manta statue that she made and
like this from feeling a familiar allergy. I don't know

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if I'm pronouncing that right, but it felt familiar. Yeah, yeah,
So I felt it felt familiar, and I was like,
I know that I know this being so I paused it.
I just stared at the statue for the longest time.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
And.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I went to go to go to bed, and I
hear a voice in my head, real loud voice in
my head saying I don't like that very much, you know.
I was like, okay, I don't like it very much.
What I like very much? And I look on the
side of the bed and my wife's grandfather's hatchet was
on the side of the bed, and I was like, okay,

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I guess I don't like that very much, so I'm
gonna put it away. So I grab the hatchet and
I put it into the dresser. My wife's like, what
are you doing. I'm like, I'm just putting this away,
you know. And then I thought, oh, I know what's
gonna happen right now. I'm like, I'm gonna get I
want to get a visit. And it said, I still

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don't like it, but I'm not going to make you
go outside because it's cold. Okay. So I thought, okay, well,
let's not wake my wife up, because you know, we
don't want to terrify her. She ends up going to
She ends up going to bed. I go to sleep.
I wake up and you know the room. The room

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had like this golden light inside of the room, like
the whole room was this. I mean, it's just this
is exact same color as if you were to take
a piece of gold and really bright flashlight and the
reflection that I mean gold golden white. And at the
foot of the bed was this fix and a half

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foot tall praying mantis being and it was it didn't
have like the exoskeleton on it. It was it was
had it was fleshy, and uh, you know, I had
a long the long neck with the praying mantis looking
head with the you know, big bulb eyes. It was
had these huge, huge forearms, right and you know, the wrist,

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the wrist turned like so and you know, the fingers
go all the way down to the to the elbow,
and it had like this really elastic looking kind of
skin on its forearm, and I remember seeing its little
belly rolls and thinking, oh, they got belly rolls. That's
that's funny, with like a white white chest like a

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green coloration to the skin.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I'm behind it and then like you know, the
little goose bumps on it, and I remember I remember thinking, what,
you know, just what is going what is this? What
is going on here? And the being, the being bows
to me, and I remember thinking, why why are you
bowing to me? I'm just I'm just a just a dude,

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you know, I'm just rob And uh, all of a sudden,
it is just in super intense feeling of oh my god.
I I remember this being. I know who I know
who you are, and it was almost like I haven't
seen my friend in one hundred thousand years and this

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was my family. So it was like it was like
a hole that I had had and this was what
filled that hole. Is it's hard hard to hard to
describe it. It's someone you know, tend amount to a
religious experiment experience, you know, and totally like like being

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next to an angel. Well, I just start uncontrollably laughing,
Like the the experience was so intense and so loving
that I just started cracking up and laughter. And then
it puts its arm ount like this and these long fingers,
and it touches my third eye just and I black out,

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and yeah, I woke up, woke up the next day.
But at that point I realized that you know, uh,
you know, trying to find out why it's happening to
me because you know, in some way that I am them,
or you know, I'm sure a lot of others have
that same experience too, that we are a part of
them somehow, right, if it's not from a previous life

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or however. But yeah, that's that's the compacted version. But
after that, you know, I went on my big spiritual
awakening and had several other encounters with other beings. Ye,
pretty intense, m definitely.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Now I've got a whole bunch of questions lighted up,
and you might have like inadvertently answered some of them,
but I do want to like get your intake on
each other and one of them. So could you describe
the mantids in more detail? Exists just for the record, really,
So Adam, if you could hit it off with that one.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's I described the skin of the manted earlier, you
know that it was very much Crocodilian, and the eyes
were very armatidian, you know, they had all of the
little hexagons catching the light, and there were long eyes.
They weren't the almond shaped eyes I see in the
model that you held up there that looks some like

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something between a gray and the manted I saw, You know,
like the manted I saw is like come some of
the ones we see here on earth that have the
large head that's the rectangle at the top and goes
down to a point. And it was it's easily eight
feet foot tall, and it has its hands hanging in

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front and just tends to stay like this. And the
hands to it are like they have scales on the front,
but they're a little softer underneath. At one point it
held my hands and they what else the tiny antenna
just just a three or four that are very long

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but but just very thin. It's just just sort of
you can they're like hair as you can barely see them.
And a tiny little slip mouth way down the bottom
of the point. And what else. The clothing just everything
always seems like foggy around the edges with all these experiences,

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and you can just sort of see part of them,
but it was a while before I started to sort
of it, let me see more of it. And it
wears a cloak with a high collar. I mean straight
out of Flash Gordon like men. I mean, it's quite dramatic.
It's a it's a high collar, and then it has
a cloak that just hangs down and it's dark gray

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and you can't see what's under there. Oka as far
as I had not been able to see what's what's
it's open, but it's just dark, so I've not really
seen more of its body.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Thank you, don how about you one word?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Their face to your features are fairly similar to what
Adam was just describing, except it had saucer like eyes
and they're really really big on each side of its
head and they kind of looked like a fly eye,
but they were huge, and it almost like it took up,
you know, a third of its head up there, but
it didn't have the triangular look to it, and a

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small slid for a mouth right there. I don't think
you have a used mouth. I don't know what mouth
was actually used. For but and then the long neck.
But here's where it kind of differentiates it. It's a
long neck that drops into a thor axe, much like
a praying mantis you would see on Earth, but it
was shortened so it looked more like an ostrich copl

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or feature. You know. It's so you can actually jump
on the back of it with a sow because it
just kind of a horse like looking but it was
one hundred percent praying mantis. And then on the bottom
side of it, here's what it's also weird. I mean,
this was all brown. These were brown praying mantis, this,

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you know, a light brown, cream colored type of thing.
But on the bottom side of this thor axe, they
had this feature that looked kind of like a gill
on each side of the body, but it wasn't a gill.
It was like feathers. It looked a lot like feathers,
and you could see the feathers moving back and forth
as it was breathing. So I'm thinking it was probably

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breathing through this apparatus that they were acting like filters
or something like. This feather process you have is just
one of the most unique. I could just just look
at that all day long, because it's really cool outlook
this little apparatus they had, and they have these thin,
little spiny legs that drop down if they had four legs,

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one on each side, and then they had its arms
up there like he was describing. It was kind of
up like this, you know. But they were like nine
feet tall, and these were some of the most intelligent
and netlents.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Still get chills even to this day thinking about being
there with them at that particular time, because it was
like standing next to an angel or something, and when
the energy they were putting out was so intense, it
was so cool looking, you know. And I remember this
as well. When I would go ask him a question
like if I wanted to know something about my future,

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it refused censored me. He just he didn't want to
draw me down this path. He wanted me to figure
the things out for myself. But then I came up
with like different questions like where are you from? And
he would give this me this thoughtful look like he
was stroking his chin type of thing, although he didn't
be it, and it sort of cocking his head around

(24:25):
trying to figure out an answer for it. He say,
you want to understand, because what happens is we're living
in a three D environment in space, right, you need
three points to be able to correlate where their particular
location is at it any more time. It's not like
a two D representation. It's three D. You need three
points in space to be able to figure out where

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they're at. And I'm taking that. He was thinking, we
have no star frame reference to be able to relate
to so that I could understand where he came from.
So he says, you want to understand, and he just
kind of left it at and I kind of took
it to the theies an interdimensional plane, or they lived

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so far away in such a distant part of the galaxy,
I wouldn't be able to figure out where it was at.
But and so the upper part, yeah, just like Adam
was saying, it was basically the same type of being.
It's just where the lower part is told me different. Yep, yep, all.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Right, thanks Don Robert. How about yours?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, just scare I just scared mine, uh there a
second ago. But you know, uh I was I asked once,
I said, well you know how many how many different
types of mantis are there? You know, and I got
kind of like, okay, well watch watch this and a
few a few uh you know, minutes later passed and

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I was going through my computer and just surfing, surfing around,
and a documentary on praying on praying mantis is on
Earth popped up, right. I wish I remember the name
of it, but it was just like talked about all
the different mantis's orchid mantis is and you know, you're
just general run of the male mantiss and all these
different types. And they gave me this thought of as

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as there's as many mantis is on Earth, there's that
many types out there, they're all they're all the same,
but they all have slight, subtle, subtle differences.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
And so but with you know, you're gonna have a
lot of different, very variations out there. But for the
most part, it's all it's all pretty pretty much the same.
My guys, like I said, a skin, skin and kind
of fatty.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
They're like a like a hybrid of of a of
a praying mantis and a salamander. Right, So it's kind
of mine seeing more and fid the ones I interacted
amphibians like.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Now they do they do have a gray that smells
and stuff like that. Man, I don't really notice any
smells or anything like that other than other than myself.
But they have a gray that I've had, I've seen before.
It's a small grade. It's probably about four feet tall

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give or take real real short, not the big head,
small small head, with like a vertical wrinkles on their face,
with these really wrinkly necks and gray, dark gray skin,
and they wore black jumpsuits. They're the only ones around
me other than like the Pleiadian type that wear clothes.

(27:41):
But these little grays, what I was explained to me
that they were a biomechanical avatar, if you will, and
the mantis beings used these little grays to project their
consciousness into them so that way they can they can
better interact with our three d's cells.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
So yeah, it's my impression that they have a hard
time adapting to our environment. It's like too heavy or so.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
We'll get you know, with just and being next to
them is so overwhelming. It's like, you know, it's like
uh yeah, but yeah, they don't give me answers either.
They always make me think for myself. They answer questions
with questions. They don't ever give you the straight the
straight answer. They're like, well, what about think of it
like this, you know half most of the time, or

(28:36):
check this out? And what tell them?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Do you tell me what you think?

Speaker 5 (28:40):
And then if you tell them me yeah, and then
when you tell them like, well, you tell them, well
I think it's this, they go, that's a pretty good idea,
you know, all right?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now, your contact seems to be a very uh like,
very positive, very like angelic tie thing. But I've one
of my past guests, when she was little, she got
abducted by the grays and brought into this room, and
as soon upon entering that room, she felt the sort
of dark aura, dark evil aura, and she turned around

(29:17):
and she saw a manted. Now, to me, that was
a first for me to hear something so dark being
said about manted. So have you ever felt that type
of aura or have you ever felt something similar what's
being taken? Adam, Let's start with you.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I have, but not demented. Like all of the different grays.
Is four different kinds of grays, and a hybrid and
lamented and another kind of blue skinned gray. All of
those were positive, but there was one experience that was it.
It's strange because it was it was the end of
a dream, and I woke up, and I saw it

(29:58):
after I woke up for a moment, so it's kind
of like weird. A lot of people would say, oh,
that was a dream. But it was a small, very
small figure about two feet high, wearing a cloak like
a jour from Star Wars, you know, like a sort
of very dirty hooded gal. And it had a face

(30:19):
like a prune. It was like wrinkly and dark grayish brown,
really quite disgusting skin, and red eyes that were glowing,
and three fingers that had claws on the end hanging
out of the cloak. And I was so terrified when
I woke up. For some reason, I just felt pure evil.

(30:39):
I bit a chunk of my tooth off at the back,
a big chunk, just through fear. That's the only negative
experience I've had. I've had bruises and other things that
are not too positive from the experiences, but they've been
explained to me as a sort of byproduct of moving
between their dimension and hours and re establishing our bodies
on a physical level, to mention, which happens every time

(31:01):
they take us. And so there are various problems that
come with that and so, but that was the only
negative experience and it wasn't with the Mantid de mant
It is just pure love and and like Robert was
describing this overwhelming feeling of like we both described it,
of wow, just it's just overpowering and it's all positive

(31:21):
for me.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Nice don how about you?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
All my lifetime, I have not had any bad experiences
so to speak, by the mantis or the great or
the the humanoid ones that you'd call the ortics, I
would say it. But when I had the experience at
Area fifty one where I was abducted. Before that abduction,

(31:50):
I had this reptilian show up to me, who I
equate them as being a kind of menim wlack thing
because they have stuff they can do. It's just my
contul abilities that are unbelievable. That's when the negative stuff
really started. And then there are actually threats on my
life from the whole shot. I mean, it was really

(32:12):
just like, you don't want to talk about this, This
is your fault. If you talk about this, whatever happens
to you. Oh, you know, it's like the domestic abuse
case basically, And they did come after me and they
did let me know that, hey, this is your fault,
you know. I was like, no, it's not my fault, dude.

(32:33):
You know, you guys are doing this to me. I'm
not doing this to anybody. And it was very specific.
He says, don't talk, don't talk, don't talk. And when
they abducted me at the military and the military guy
shows up into the room, he says, well, we told
you not to talk about this, but you're talking about it.
Why are you talking about this? You know? And after

(32:54):
that little susiers on which I really didn't reply to him,
I walk around, I get they take me out. I
go around the corner and there's a small reptilian dude.
He sprays something in my eyes and knocks me out
and it just like hits me and I'm knocked out.
And after that point I started having some real negative experiences.

(33:15):
I would have these. Just for instance, when I left
Utah to move to Oregon. The day I was leading,
I had what I would call him experience. Some of
you may say it was a dream. With me, it
was an experience where I'm staring up at this judge.
He's sting behind this bench is like about eight feet tall,

(33:39):
he's really up there tall, and he said overlooking looking
down on me, and he says, then, don't come back ever.
And I'm thinking he's talking about Utah, and they, oh,
don't worry about I'm never going back. I'm not going
back there. I'm not ever going back again because I've
just had bad experiences and Utah wasn't et experiences otherwise,

(34:01):
And so I was thinking he was talking about Utah
will really do with placing a death threat on me?
And so this men in Black type of experience kept
popping up all down the line after that, and it's
only recently that they all kind of mellowed out. I mean,
these guys have got long memories, they've got long lifetimes.
It's like they will just keep sending you these persistent

(34:25):
little carats here and there to let you know that
they're around. So it has been negative on that aspect,
but everything else has been really really cool. So I
have no problems with the Pragmantis or the gray Is
or they, nor did any of those guys.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Robert. Anything dark happened to you?

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, well, I mean I got sick, really really bad,
but you know what, I was kind of told it
was part of this whole u you know, hardcore acceleration process.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
And that was just the physical side effect of all that.
And with the Manda Sping's never never had a negative
experience with them. I've had like a an uncomfortable feeling.

(35:23):
Was like this Nordic type, but it was a reptilian
projecting as a Nordic. So it was like this reptilian
being with this kind of like a little bit of
a snout, brown scales and the ridges on on the
head right and really intense yellow eyes, and it looked

(35:45):
but you know, it's projecting a holographic image, so it
looks just like this blonde hair, blue eyed, blue jump suit,
you know, really attractive person. But you know, then all
of a sudden you'll see this like glitch and there'll
be this reptilian behind them. But it wasn't really fear.
It was just like an uneasy like something's wrong here,
this doesn't feel right. And then with like a Zeta

(36:11):
with there was thatt a reticular type gray with you know,
the big head gray and they can they seem negative,
you know, but it's like they're just kind of they're
just like a I don't know what AI really in
a sense, and so I can see how you can

(36:31):
just be terrified of them because they can do some
terrifying things. But as far as like fear and in
that so much, but definitely definitely was like my lab
type stuff. Yeah, that's when you get into the really
really negative aspects of the whole et experience, you know.

Speaker 9 (36:53):
So, yeah, it seems like really the fear and the
real evil comes from human beings, you know, unfortunately, and
and then when but then if you think about uh,
I had I had a contact friend that told me Robert,
you know, I'm so in touch with these beings.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
But still when they come down, it's it's a horrifying experience.
It's scary. And yeah, man, you know, you look out
of your window and you see this, you know, in
some cases nine foot tall giant praying mantis out there
in your backyard. It's pretty it's pretty horrifying. So you know,
maybe a lot of times that you know, because we
don't understand what's going on, we can project fear or

(37:35):
project you know, extreme negativity because we don't really understand
what's what's really going on there.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Sure, in regards to how they communicate, were your contact events,
uh did they use like telepathy to get into contact
with you. Was it like verbally, did you hear clicking sounds?
Stuff like that? So, Adam, what did you hear.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Every communication with all of them, all, with all the
different grays and with everyone with demented And it's all telepathic.
You know who's speaking. If there's four or five people
in the room, you know who's speaking. But none of
them have a particular voice. It's just the thought itself
that you hear, but you know immediately which one is
talking to you, or if it's all of them talking

(38:23):
at once. The only time I've heard of clicking was
when I asked asked the name of the species and
they said that you wouldn't be able to say it.
And when it said it, it was a clicking sound.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
And how about you, yes, the same way it was.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Well, I would take it back in nineteen eighty four
when I had that antike experience with me and my
son we were walking around the ship. No, that was
telepathic too, it was you know, it's all went telepathic.
The only time where I have verbally heard anything is
with the praying mantis when the initial contact experience up

(39:04):
in the desert where they were clicking, you know, like
series of three clicks, and it was going on all
over the place. I think it was kind of like
their sonar or radar or something to where they were
keeping track of where each other was. It's like, even
though they didn't need that, I got the impression that

(39:26):
might have been what that was. So you would just
hear this all over the place as the night went on.
So other than that, it's all been telepath you know,
even on the ship when we were on the shoot
the Praying Mantis, he was describing stuff that was going on.
It was there was no verbal communication whatsoever. It was

(39:48):
just all telepathic back and forth, you know. So yeah, Robert,
how about you. Yeah, it's identical this like clicking. It's
like a clicking sound, you know, just like and you
can hear him like clicking to each other. Yeah, and
uh and but yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's all telepathic. Yeah, all telepath And he did this
is because uh there you can be like he was
saying a real five, but you can tell which one
is talking to you, and their voices are kind of same,
and then most of them, but most of the time
it's also like images that you kind of interpret. You
have to interpret. Oh, but yeah, that's that's pretty much

(40:30):
it literal. They do little clicks. That's it's a it's
kind of cool. It's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I would you Rob earlier?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Robert?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I thought, I thought that's I heard somebody cool you Rob?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh Rob, Yeah, that's my my nickname short Rob for short.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Now, you guys have talked a bit briefly about hybrids.
But were you ever shown like manted babies hatchlings, because
that's one thing that no one ever talks about, so
it's an open question.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
To everyone, not mantied babies, but hybrids. Yeah, yes, but
not mantied babies.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I've never seen any babies at all, period and anything
that I've been through it, I might have, but I do,
I don't remember it.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
But no, Robert any No, no, no babies, No, nothing
like that. Uh. You know you know who does though,
is our our mutual friend missus Missus Smith uh has
mentioned that before.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Okay, now, uh, this is regarding like medical procedures. Are
you aware if you guys had any implants being put
into you? Because one of my past guests, Zach Age,
he remembers receiving an implant behind his ear through a needle.
So I'm not sure if any if you guys had

(41:56):
something similar, So Adam, how about you.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I don't remember them being put in, but I think
I have implants. I have something in my nose that
the doctors have mentioned and I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
And I have.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Something on my back that is there's a lump and
they can no one can ever get rid of it.
They remove it and it comes back. But there was
one thing in terms of like enhancements and things. Nothing
that's sort of like a superpower or anything like that,
but like they did help me once with perhaps it's

(42:36):
a different subject, perhaps I shouldn't mention it, but just
they helped me within it with something by changing my.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Body at one point.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
So I don't know if you want to discuss that now,
let's skip that.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Well, you could get into it maybe if you could
like sort of summarize it.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Just I was feeling really stressed with my job. My
job was just becoming too much, and just family pressures,
it was all happening at the same time, and I
was just you know, I showed up for this regression
and met with the Manta and it could see that
I was just really stressed, and it's done this three
times now where a dot of tiny, tiny dot of

(43:13):
white light will just appear on its forehead and just
just move slowly towards me and then just just landing
my forehead and it's just really tiny of like white light.
And this particular time, when I was feeling really stressed,
I was laying on the floor in a rented rehearsal

(43:34):
room so that I could have privacy through this session,
and I just had like convulsions. I was I was
shaking and so so wildly. I mean I was thrashing
about and banging my head on the concrete and it
was a real, real like convulsion and it passed. It
was like an electrical feeling that went right down my body,
which is similar to the electrical feeling you have when

(43:56):
you when you can't move when you're on the bed
and you you can only move your eyes, and if
you try to move, you get this electrical feeling. It's
like that, but it was more intense and it wasn't painful,
but it was extreme. And then it passed, and I
had the feeling that that was something to help me,
but I didn't sort of question it. And then about

(44:17):
A week later, I realized I had been under crazy
pressure at work and I had just been super super calm.
I'd just been like floating through it, just processing one
thing after another, and I thought, that's not like me,
you know, And I realized all week I've been doing that,

(44:37):
and that calm has stayed there. And I've had pressure
and various things to deal with since then, as we
all do, and I've processed it differently. I still have
that calm, and it's done that three times with the light,
but only the one time where it took over my
body like that. I've also woken up with like circular

(44:57):
shapes like burnt into my skin, five dots in the
middle that are raised. I've had that a couple of times,
and various other things like that.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Dawn, how about you.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I've had two experiences, but it wasn't One of them
was probably physical. It's where I was kept having nose
bleeds on the left side of my nose and I
was getting fed up with it. Now, this was before
I had my contact experience back in ninety four. It's
like maybe five years before that, and I'm thinking to myself,
I getting really frustrated for some reason. I just get

(45:35):
this image of flying saucer above my head and I
just yelled out at it that says, get this goddamn
thing out of my head. Nose, get nosebleeds, nose bleads,
and those bleads. And I had no idea why I
said that. But that night I go to sleep and
the room just gets bathed in light, and I'm thinking

(45:56):
to my I wake up and look around. I said, wow,
this is just that moon is really bright, right, because
it was just the real whole room was just lit up.
And I think nothing else of it. I fall asleep,
and then next morning I'm at the breakfast table. I'm
talking to my brother. I said, man, that mood. Did
you see that moon last night? It was really bright?
He looks out the sky and points up the sky

(46:17):
up there and says, you mean that moon, And they
just kind of is like I stopped processing it at
that moment. I think, hell, that was really weird, right, yeah,
and I the nosebeats stopped. Needless to say, the other
one was not right about this on my blog. But
it is like I'm having I'm sitting laying in bed

(46:42):
and it's early morning and I can hear that the
wind blowing through the window up above my head. Because
we're living in the country ride and we chip the
window open at night. The window is blowing the hurting
back and forth, I think, and I said, well, shall
I get up?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Now?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Shall I just go to sleep? And I hear this
cat and the owling in the room. You know, I
think it, well, the cat got in the house because
it didn't have a screen on the window, and it
was it was brown level, so I think that the
cat got in the house, right, And I keep hearing
this cat me owing and thinking, well, wait a minute,
there's no place for this cat to be standing next
to my bed and it's sitting right next to my bed.

(47:19):
Well what is this saying? Because we don't even have
a cat, So somebody's cat got in the house. And
I opened my eyes and there's a little a couple
of little alien arms cut off of the elbows and
in one arm it's got this in its left hand,
it's got the three fingers and the thumb. It's missing
the floor figure and it's holding this little moue rod

(47:39):
in its hat in its hand like cup like that,
and it moves it up. In a minute, I opened
my eyes I see it. I freeze, I can't move,
and it moves this rod up to my forehead and
just starts banging a rod into my head. And it
does this like nine times. Un tell there's just about
this much of it sticking out on my forehead and

(47:59):
then you go and it just kind of stucks into
my head and the arms disappeared. At that point, I go,
what the you know, what the hell is that? And
this voice pops into the room and says, well, this
is a device to help you with your third eye, basically,

(48:20):
so you're abuilding to be able to see into the
other worlds type of thing. Yeah, and tomorrow we'll come
back and we'll show you how to activate it. And
I'm walking around because of now my head is tingling,
and I got this little rash that's starting to form
in my mim of my forehead right there, and I'm thinking, well,

(48:43):
what's maybe I should have stopped if we do, how
are you going to stop them from doing this? You know,
It's like there's absolutely nothing I could do. I mean,
they already put this device in my forehead, right in
my third eye, And so I said, well, let's just
go on with the program and see what happened, right,
So I go, I forget about it. I go through
my day and I go back to bed, and it

(49:05):
maybe about three in the morning. I hear this voice again,
say sit up. I just set up in bed. Say
make sure your back is a wreck, and we're going
to show you how to activate this device that you
have in your head. And I'm thinking, okay, this might
be addressing, right, So I'm sitting there with my back erect.
It says, imagine the energy starting down at the bottom

(49:27):
of the base of your spine, which is your prown,
which is your chakra spot, right, It's going to go
all the way up through your spine and shoot it
out through your forehead. So I do that. In the
minute I do that, it feels like my head explodes.
I mean, it's just my whole head is just tingling.
It feels like there's needles in it, you know, every
hair feels like a needle sticking in my head. And

(49:48):
say I was waking up as not in the exaggeration
right there, It's like whoa. And it took me like
an hour or so. It's very uncomfortable sleeping for about
a week, and over that period of time, I had
this really red spot right here in the middle of
my forehead, but the skin was just drying out and
it looked like I had gotten a bad sunburn there.
And people look at me and say, well, I have

(50:08):
your head. Well, would you believe me if I told
you no, I don't think so, you know, And it
did it. My third eye was just kind of blown open.
And now I have the ability to be able to
just see into this other world. So if there's a
demons or spirit or something around, I could focus in
on it when I get the feeling that something's there,

(50:29):
and you know, do something about it. So yeah, it
was just yeah, Rob, how about you?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh man, that's hardcore.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
By the way, I when I was a kid, my god,
I don't know how old. I was like six or so.
I was like third third grade. How old you are
in the third grade, I can't remember. My teacher was
reading a book about childhood childhood cancer, you know, not

(51:03):
traumatizing at all to read too a kid, right, and
and the book said, you know the kid it was
the kid found little lumps in his mouth, right. And
so the next the next day, feeling in the they're
they're under my tongue. Uh kind of like along my
jawline right here, but on the inside, and one's about

(51:27):
like a little grain of rice, and the other ones
like a little a little a babie. And I remember thinking, oh,
I told, oh my god, I have cancer. I have
cancer in my mouth, just like that book. Oh no,
And uh, I told my mom.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Mo, we we got cancer.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
We're gonna die. She said, no, no, son, everyone's got
bumps in their mouth. It's not a big deal, right,
And so I still have them. They're still there. They
unset every once in a while, they get a little uncomfortable,
but uh yeah, yeah, I had him in there for
a long time, long time, the same same around. I've

(52:03):
woken up with the with these circles, you know, burned
onto me or little little triangles. I've had the perfect
circle bruises, you know, like right and they like to
hit you in the pressure points, you know, like right
there or the back of the calf, and maybe this
perfect circle bruise now on the surface it's a perfect circle,

(52:28):
but into the meat, it's like a perfect cylinder that goes,
you know, into the meat and then like a almost
like to drill something out of you or something, and
then that'll either be a single or in a in
a triangle pattern, and it'll be like a little blood
spot right in the in the center, and then the

(52:49):
little triangle cut out of you somewhere. Yeah, and then
of course I had like the big procedure that I
remember is the one where.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
The you know, I woke up.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I woke up consciously aware of an event happening to me.
I've mentioned this before, but where I was outside of
my body in just like my they pulled my consciousness
out of my body, and this being was holding my

(53:25):
consciousness and its hands, and I'm the It's like, it's
like we're these little tiny I can't do size comparison,
but maybe like I don't know, like like a softball
baseball size ORB. But it's not an orb. It was
like a like a dough decrahedron shape of electrons going

(53:50):
around some a nucleus kind of like an atom, but
it's vibrating so fast it just looks like an orb.
So and you can see three hundred and I don't
even know what that would be. You can just see everywhere,
you know, and the being realized that I became aware,
so I obviously wasn't supposed to become aware of that moment.

(54:11):
And uh, it's like the being says, hey, oh oh, hey,
hey hey, what's going on there? And I'm looking. I
can see on the others around the being's shoulder, and
my body was in some kind of chair where three
beings I had the top of my head remove, and
I can see my living you know, like you've seen

(54:32):
pictures of dead brains are like in movies. No, man,
a living brain has a certain look to it, like,
you know, you can see all the film, you know,
the different layers of film that's under the skull and
these you know, the vein colors are blue. And uh. Anyway,
so the three beings are rubbing their hands on my brain,

(54:56):
and the being, the being holding my consciousness, goes, oh,
oh hey, hey man, why did you dress next so
long that I don't know? And said because of its vertebrae?
And I just cracked up. I cracked up, laughing like,
oh my god, that was the worst joke I ever
heard in my life. And my while my consciousness is laughing,
my body was laughing, and it was like oo. I

(55:22):
woke up, and I woke up, went to work, felt
like I got hit by a bus and I couldn't.
I couldn't I had I couldn't like tell my boss,
hey man, I'm not coming in today because I was
abducted by aliens and I my mind's just totally ripped
backwards because now I believe that were a ever living

(55:42):
soul incarnating is a human experience. And so you know,
after mind melter like that, going into work was super difficult.
And then you know, walking walking to clock in and
I feel something off the back of my leg and
you know those triangles bruises into into my calf there
It's like, oh, ship, it was real? Man telling me

(56:06):
that was real? Oh man, yeah, yeah, so yes, yeah happened.
Then there's definitely, like I said, stuff implanted into this.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Now in regards to the man kids, uh, are you
aware if there's if they do have like social causes,
uh a form of hierarchy?

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
You know what types of jobs do they?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Have you seen them do?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Because in regards to like the abduction phenomenon, we they
tend to have like a high position. They tend to
be in.

Speaker 10 (56:42):
Charge a lot and the like the like a supervisor
type of position. So have you ever seen them do
these types of positions or if you've got any information
on that, so Adam.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Not in terms of the hierarchy, except that they are
at the top, that they're definitely in charge and they
definitely have authority. But they they're very warm, whereas like
the elder grays that are very wrinkly, that stand about
five foot tall taller than the other grays, they are cold,

(57:24):
like just like there is zero emotion. And the most
strangest feeling was that it wasn't like a doctor's bedside manner,
or suppose you were seeing a military doctor or something
something you expect a real detachment. But it was beyond that.
It just wasn't there. That I was with something that

(57:44):
did not have it, and I could feel its absence,
and that was was very really intense, and I got
the feeling that was in charge of what was going
on in the room, but demanded was overseeing many rooms
in many situations and was just way above that. That's
the only thing that I've been aware of. I haven't
seen them doing anything particularly except the interactions with me.

(58:08):
And I don't know if a hierarchy within it meant it,
thank you, don.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
I don't recall it. I mean, you get the impression
that they are like Adam was saying the number one,
I wouldn't say power force or anything like that, but
everybody kind of deferred to them because of their knowledge
that they had and what kind of beings that they were.
I know, when we're taking around on the guided ship.

(58:38):
When I was taking around on the ship, I got
to tour with them. He kept referring to me as
little one, like as one of theirs, but it was
more like I was a child and learning experience. Yeah,
and other than that, there was no really you couldn't

(59:00):
really tell that they were in charge or that they
were the authority there. But they were directing everything that
was going on, and it was never out of do
this or else type within It was more like you
could understand that even though what they were doing was
in a position of love, and so they were deferred

(59:24):
a lot of times because of that. I think it's
people could understand that they were coming from a good place.
So it'll be.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Robert, Yeah, I've heard like before. Whereas like, if you
think of our universe, this particular three dimensional universe that
we exist in, that it's like a holographic projection of sorts,
and they are kind of like sort of like a

(59:54):
like a programmer in a way, kind of like they're
they kind of like just were help program the the
holographic matrix, if you will, in a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
In some cases it was over of my own with
a reptilian abduction experience, they were there. It's almost like
supervising to like help to make sure there's a balance maintained,
you know, like almost like a uh, make sure that
certain certain rules weren't broken. It's it's hard to describe.

(01:00:27):
It's like, but it's still it's outside of it's outside
of what we can understand. I've also heard too that uh,
as far as a hierarchy, it's more like there there's
an ancient there's an ancient version of of them. It's
it's not like, oh there the Queen Bee, you know,
in a in a hive mind sense, it was a drop,

(01:00:49):
you know, they repeated a star trek deep space nine,
the uh, the shape shifters. It's a drop, a drop
of water in an ocean of consciousness, is how they've
described describe it.

Speaker 11 (01:01:04):
And uh, but no real hierarchy. But then they are
there was like certain jobs just like just like a
you know, uh, I could a video game firm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
You know, there's certain some people are programming this, and
some people are programming that, and some are you know,
for glitches. So I that's that's what I've heard. Linda
Maulton Howe and I had a conversation with her when
I did The Ancient Aliens. She was told that once

(01:01:38):
they had they they live for the like one will
be assigned to a solar system and then it's lifespan
will be the duration of that star in that solar system.
So yeah, but my own, my own personal experience, there
is like certain little jobs that are different. But yeah,

(01:02:00):
I think it's beyond our It's way beyond our our
ability to understand now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
And I just add something that's really interesting that reminded
me that there is, you know how the different frequencies
or densities the we tend to call dimensions just to
simplify it into our way of you know, communicating that
I tend to use the word dimension, even though it's
really not the right term. But in the higher densities,

(01:02:28):
like in the fifth density, where all all of these
interactions are taking place with me, and there is also
higher dimensions than that densities than that, and whereas some
species like various species of gray, are working towards even
evolving into the next density, and all of them go

(01:02:49):
to it the and I don't know if this is
true of other species as well, but de manted are
in more than one density. So they are in that
fifth density, which is physical, even though their relationship to
time is completely fluid and different to ours. But beyond that,
there are like you might call them elders within their

(01:03:11):
species that they communicate with on a telepathic way, presumably
that are incorporeal. And so that's something where you might
call it a hierarchy. But it didn't seem like that
that's superior. It's just different. It's just that they are
elevated and they have gone there, and perhaps these ones

(01:03:31):
in the fifth density are working their way toward that.
I do get the feeling that all advanced species are
operating on love, and the ones that are not operating
on love maybe in a higher density to us, in
other words, being able to shape shift like reptilians and
some of the other negative entities, but they will never
get up to the eleventh density and add up to

(01:03:51):
the higher densities that are that are all about love
and demand, are very spiritual, and are connected with those
much higher densities while there are in this fifth density,
which might be why they have that authority of other
fifth density beings.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
All said, well, now, some of you talked about the
subject of it briefly, and I think you were talking
about screen images. Now we ever shown screen images of
a being that realized it was something else. Let's say,
for example, in the Communion letters, Willy talks about meeting

(01:04:29):
with a manted but at first he thought it was
an angel, then realize it was a man died. That's
when the social conditioning kicked in, and that's when he
started being afraid of something so different. So, Adam, have
you seen something to that extent? No, except.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
What I can only call men in black. When I
was in hospital after a poised food poisoning in Mexico,
I was flung back and put into intensity care, and
when I was sort of coming out of my haze.
You can't really count credit this as or real experience
just because it's I mean, I would not blame anyone
for doubting me. In other words, because I was coming

(01:05:11):
out of a really sort of like messed up state
of mind. But at the foot of my bed. And
this is also before I was into any of this
or understood any of this. I didn't believe in aliens.
I don't know any of this stuff. There was just
two men in black suits with black ties, and I
couldn't make out their faces. Their faces were blurry and

(01:05:32):
they were they were just sort of looking at me,
and they picked up the chart the end of my
bed and put it back, and then they they they
said they were from the government, some government agency that
that examines investigates like possibly terrorist poisonings or cross border poisonings,

(01:05:56):
which something very dubious and stupid. And I didn't sort
of believe them, and I was so unwell I just
sort of let it go. But I mean, that's the
only thing that they They might have been something else.
And one other time when I when I had injuries
from the bike accident where I lost my sense of smell,

(01:06:16):
I was very unwell for a while, not of broken bones,
and I saw used to see white forms coming up
the side of my vision. There would be like a
bit like Casper the ghosts, you know, there would be
a large top white head is going down, tapering down
to a point and they would just rise and be

(01:06:37):
right next to me, and I'd look and then they'd
just sort of fade away and and they're about the
size of a small gray but they would just float
up on either side, one at a time, So that
that's something a little like that. Apart from that, it's
just been I've been in physically in the room with
these people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yes, uh darn screen images.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Not from the brain mansis or the uh nord Aches
or Pleadians, whatever you'd like to call them. But when
I was fourteen, I did have a missing time incident
up the canyon in Utah. We're staying overnight and I
kind of get separated from everybody, so I was out
on my own. It was like about fourteen miles up

(01:07:20):
the canyon. There's nobody there but me, and I had
the screen memory that I was being chased, and me
sitting up there in dark, it's a canyon, it's cold,
it's you know, maybe ten o'clock at night. I'm hearing
these noises off in the distance, and at first I'm thinking,

(01:07:40):
I get the envision the coyotes are chasing me, and
so I'm running down the road trying to get rid
of them, and then I stopped. The noise fades off
and I stop, and I'm thinking to myself, well, you
know what, this can't be coyotes because there's no yiping,
and there's no they would be chasing me. They would
have caught me. You know, I can't run faster coote.

(01:08:00):
So what are these things? And I had the screen
image that popped up into my head again it was skunks,
that I was being chased by herd of skunks. And
I was sitting there thinking about how ridiculous this was.
And you'd hear these sounds of the brushes as they're
coming closer and closer. And the bottom line is I
took off running again because I thinking to myself, well,

(01:08:20):
I can't jump in a tree. It's cold, it's night,
you know, I don't know if these sinks had climbed
the trees. I gotta find someplace to hide. So the
only place I could go up there in the mountains,
where there's an outhouse out there, which is a terrible
place to be for any amount of time, even that
they have to use it. You know, it's like stinks.
But I'm thinking, Okay, that's the only place I'm going

(01:08:41):
to be able to lock myself in away from what
these skunks that are chasing me. And so I locked
myself in there, and I've got my head and my
nose down next to the air vent, down on the floor,
and I could see skunks walking around all over the place. So, yeah,
they're not gonna get me now, right. And it was
really what ten years I thought they were skunks. And

(01:09:04):
I went back to school the next day, you know
when school started, AGAINST said, hey, I was talking up there.
I was trapped up in the canyon. These skunks were
chasing me, and everybody looked at me and laughed, you know.
So I just kind of held it under for ten years.
And when I had this experience, I realized that there
wasn't skunks. It was these grave beings are walking around
the ououse trying to figure out how to get inside

(01:09:26):
because they wanted to take me on their ship, but
they initially which they did, Yeah, but it was all
a screen memory. So that was something that kind of
blew me away when I figured out what I was.
I remember that one Rob, how about you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Three that I can remember well, and one when I
was a little kid, and there I was like being
chased by this.

Speaker 12 (01:09:56):
Big wrapped burrito, right uh, and it's just a burrito,
a big old fat super burrito wrapped in foil, and
it was like crawling on the floor, but it was
going by, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Oh my god, you know that I did actually thought
it was a horrible nightmare. Looking back now, I was like, ah, yeah,
it's a screen memory, so it's probably some medical thing
they were doing to me and put in my brain.
Burrito for Southy's. Then like another a dream vision is

(01:10:31):
more more of a more of a dream of a
bearded old man that in a white robe that came
up to me and he told me the the secrets
of the universe is that how everything's all connected. And
talking to another friend of mine, the mantis being contact said,
oh yeah, sometimes the mantis beings will project themselves as

(01:10:55):
like a bearded old man in a white robe, kind
of kind of noah ish look to it. And then
the third one is really big one is one one
night my wife made a bacon wrapped holapeno poppers right
was and used toothpicks to put put in the halopano,

(01:11:20):
and uh, I was just eating them like candy, and
I accidentally swallowed a toothpick on one and I was like, uh, oh, well,
I mean this might be a problem. I'm gonna have
to go to the doctor in the morning, or you know,
if I get feel really bad pain on it, I
have to go to the hospital. And I go to bed,

(01:11:41):
and as I'm falling asleep, you know, he's start getting
that sleep paralysis right where by laying on my side,
I get flipped over on my back and start stiffening
out like a board. And I'm fighting it, and I
see a little the little gray like I was described earlier,
and then the antis being coming in behind it, and

(01:12:02):
the mantis being stood at the foot of the bed,
and the little gray came next to my bed and
it said this is going to feel really weird, and
oh okay, and do your thing, and it stuck its
hand like threw my threw my abdomen into my stomach,
and oh, man, you want to talk about a wild sensation.

(01:12:25):
And I kind of snapped out of the paralysis and
I grabbed the little gray. I had my thumb in
its mouth and I was holding it by the neck,
you know, starting to fight it, and the manta, the
mantis being puts its arms up like this, like in
a you know, just like the this defensive posture of

(01:12:45):
an insect praying mantis on earth, you know, put its
hands up like that, and instantly I was in dreamland.
I was like dreaming of being in a field and
everything was fine, and then I woke up. So yeah,
I think they do have if they wanted to have
complete control of what we can see.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
I remember to this day my first nightmare ever as
a child, and I didn't at first, I didn't know
what it was. But thanks to me, you know, coming
out and doing the you know, the show, I realized
it's a screen image because imagine waking up during the
night and at the foot of your bed is a
three foot tall boxing love just saying hello, and the

(01:13:32):
energy all Arami was the was well thanks to this guest.
She described it as alien fog, so I was in
I was in that fog. So that really sort of
connected the dots for me. But yeah, amazing stories so far, guys,
So thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Actually I have one more that I remember. I slept
in a cave on on the Hope Reservation, on the
side of a masa. You could just sort of climb
around and then get in, and it was just big
enough to lay down in and sit up in and
of white stone. And I woke up in the morning
and there was a white rabbit right next to me

(01:14:10):
with black eyes, just looking at me, and then it
just sort of hopped away. And later on in the regression,
I went back to that place, and it was a
small gray sitting there like half in and half out
of the rock, like half half embedded in the rock,
bigger than the rock, just keeping an eye on me
or doing something that night, but connecting with me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Regarding story charts a bit like what Betty Hill was shown,
have you ever were you ever shown something similar? Adam?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yes, I was shown something that was I was told
was my shape, and it was sort of like a
coffin shape with a very like like you could make
it out of three points and then tapering down and
then tapering a little more to a point. And I
realized afterward it's Oryan. It's the three stars of Oryan

(01:15:08):
and then the Ryan's belt and then the main star
below and and it forms that exact shape. And I
was shown that that I also went when it was
taken up there and shown something another time in the
Ryan and it's up near the top left star, which

(01:15:30):
is I go, which one is? What's it called? I
can't remember the name of it, but the brightest of
the stars actually there somewhere near there. And I was
also shown something that was like the Journey of the
Soul as a sequence of dots, but it's not a

(01:15:51):
star chart. It's a separate kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Gone.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
I'll never seeing any kind of a star chart at all.
I had had a play with being this with a
praying man as they took me. When they took me
on the ship, I was sitting at the top of
the ship with who I called Jerolan, who was my
praying mantis day that was with me and he it
was we're in a big bubble. We can see the

(01:16:20):
stars out there out of it, but we were on
the ship and you can see the stars out there.
And he looks at me and he communicates with me.
He says, would you like to see.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I said yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I wasn't necessarily sure what he was talking about, but
I figured it's got to be pretty good, right, So
I said yes. The ship disappears, He disappears, and I'm
floating out there in space, and I can see all
the stars out there in the universe, and you could
actually look back, and I believe it was the Milky
Way galaxy I was looking at, because you can see
the galaxy out there, and you knew that there's some

(01:16:57):
place I lived out there in those stars and little
stars up run that galaxy. And it was just the
most intense experience I've ever had in my life, outher
than just being with it braying new discus. As I
was sitting there, excuse me, you could feel like the
best thing, the best way to describe it is like

(01:17:18):
a breeze blowing through the universe, you know, but it
was on a single note. You could hear this note
and it was just floating through the universe. And as
I was sitting there, you could fill this breeze just
flow through my body. And it's like if somebody sat
you down in front of you. Somebody sat down in

(01:17:41):
front of you and just blew and you could feel
that breath of aaron go all the way through your
body and touch every one of your cells and it
would just mow through. And I just sat there for
a few moments taking this in because there was just
that single note that was flowing out. There was really view.

Speaker 11 (01:18:01):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Again I'm back on the ship with him and he's
taken me back to the place where we were actually
staying for the night. Shon. Yeah, Robert, how about you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
The only one that I can I can't remember is
it was when they took me up and they were
showing me an event that was to occur.

Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
There was like this a mushroom kind of like a
mushroom table, right, It's like this black The best way
I can describe it as like a black blackest of
black obsidian kind of mushroom table with a flat top
and it's like odd coppers kind of metal ring around
the edge. And uh, the mantis being would touch touch

(01:18:53):
a tap tap the top of the table and it
would like kind of ripple out. And then this perfect
holographic image of our solar system. So it wasn't like
a star chart, but it was. It was a holographic being,
a perfect holographic image of our solar system. You know.

(01:19:14):
They zoomed into the Sun and I can see like
the little flares coming off of it, you know. And
but they would they told me, hey man, we got
something important to tell you. Stop, stop, focus focusing on
the on the what you're seeing, and focus on what
we're trying to explain to you. Yeah, so that that

(01:19:35):
was the only one that I saw. But you know,
on a on a on a side side note, when
I was about the O'Ryan, the Ryan constellation, when I
was about three, three to four years old, I was
playing out in my grandpa, grandma and Grandpa's backyard, playing
a little hot wheel cars in the dirt, and Uh,

(01:19:58):
I just had this weird thought out of the blue, like, Hey, everybody,
everybody has a star that watches over them. I wonder
what star's mine? And I went right to the three
stars of the uh Orion's belt and I said, oh,
there's my stars. That's that's where that's where my home is.
So that, yeah, there's there's some sort of weird Orion's

(01:20:21):
belt connection. I've noticed too, and other people have also
mentioned the Orion belt thing. I know that's a little
side side thing, but yeah, I thought about just thought
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Okay. I know, I know at least Dawn you were
told to shut up, and but I know, like some
of you are book authors, were you encouraged by the
beings to come out to write a book, don't, Adam,
let's start with.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
You very much. So initially I was was searching it
just because I wanted to be fight to these people
that had these experiences, and one character was one of
these people, and I just wanted to do it right.
And that's how I got into this. And and this
was twenty years after i'd seen that gray, so I
sort of had blocked that out. But the book evolved

(01:21:17):
from being far more than what it initially was going
to be to the point where I've included characters that
are that are actually based on the manteed and the
various types of grays and the hybrid, and I see
a lot and I've asked them for help to get
the facts right because I've realized what I need to

(01:21:38):
do is not just be an author who follows a
path of ego to be an artist and have people
like my work, and I need to actually do something
more meaningful.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
With my writing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
And use whatever skill I have to normalize the conversation.
That's my mission is to make this into something quite ordinary.
Just like Native Americans seeing a Spanish ship on the
coastline on the horizon, we just have to deal with it.
It's a shock, but we just we're just dealing with
visitors from somewhere else and they're people, and we have

(01:22:12):
to just get over it. And that's my mission. And
so I've asked for their help to get things right,
and they've shown me things. They showed me their hands.
They shown me various things, a lot of things, specific
things to do with the ship, to do with the tanks,
to do with the plenishment chambers, to do with the
control panels, to do with the beam of light that

(01:22:34):
comes up, and had the process of what they call
taking you apart and putting you back together again is
the way they simplify it from my little brain, and
in other words, and on an atomic level, breaking us apart,
that's how we go through the windows and walls, and
then we go up in the beam of light, and
then we put back together as exactly ourselves. Because physical

(01:22:58):
things have to be done, like the hybridization program, there
are physical things that need to happen there, and then
the whole process is reversed again. But a lot of
things that they want me to get it right. And
they know that I'm not just doing this for money
or something or for ego because I've gone on a
very different journey to the person that used to be

(01:23:20):
when I started all this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Don How about you. Were you encouraged to come out
and write your book?

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Most were less discouraged because you know, up to that
point was its Well. When I was twenty four, I
had this experience. Like I said, I was very religious,
so I didn't know what to do with it all.
You know, It's like, I'm living this rural community, the
very very religious conservative community. I figure, I don't have
anybody talking about this. So I buried it for thirteen years,

(01:23:51):
which you don't really bury something. You just set it
in the back of your head that churns and turns
and churns until it gets bigger, bigger and bigger. Yeah,
And then finally I just I've got to do something
about this because either this is true where this is true,
but both of them can't be true, right, you can't
have So this dichotomy was going on in my head,
and so I decided, you know what, I'm just going

(01:24:12):
to talk about it. I've got to find some group
of people to talk about with it, and I'll talk
to anybody anywhere, at any time, which was a great
relief to find a group that you could come out
and just sort of like talk with it about. So
I just started opening it up and the community started
to become aware of this kind of stuff through different
channels I was talking about. And all it does is

(01:24:34):
ostracize you. You know you, whether they hear about it
or not, they just know that there's something different about you.
But it got to the point where I agreed to
go talk. I think there's a gentleman who do who
is running the Confidence of the Area fifty one, whose
name was a Ike Bishop, and he was running the

(01:24:55):
Confidence of the Area fifty one, literally right at the
back door of Area fifty one, right to the mailbox
and a little alien is where we meet and where
we'd have our get togethers and tell somebody he bought
the place out. But when I went and did that conference,
I had a ratiion show up to me and says,

(01:25:15):
don't talk about this. Yeah, And it was like that
holographic image you get. You see the holographic image where
they peard of U says, don't talk. And he repeated
this three times. So the third time but I just precluded,
and the third time I was looking behind him and
I was thinking, wow, this is a holographic image because

(01:25:37):
he's relaying this to me from some sort of military installation,
because I see a guy walking behind him and I
see I see these like lockers off the side, and
there's this green tiled floor right there, but it's in
a cave someplace. And when I realized that, he really
really irritated. And then and that's where everything started to comfort.

(01:26:00):
And the minute he said don't talk, I said, oh,
I'm going to write a book because I don't want
somebody telling me in dictating to me what I can
and can't do about this experience that I had. So
I just wrote that book about all my experiences if ict.
I wrote two of them and put it out there,
and one of them is still on the market right now.
But and so I just said, this is what happens.

(01:26:24):
These are the experiences that you can have being an abductee.
And I let it fly and just put it all
out there, which got them really irritated for a while.
But they've mellowed out a whole bunch. So it's just
sole men in black thing. Like Adam was saying, these
the typical men in black thing would happen where they

(01:26:45):
would show up and talk to me in my hand
and say, hey, you know what, you aren't supposed to
be talking about this, and then something would happen. Wasn't
having the effect on me that they wanted to have,
and I kept on talking about it. Then I can
see it kind of splitting off and happening around the
people I was associated with, because I'd have an experience
happened in one week where like five people had this

(01:27:07):
thing happened to them. This really i'll call the shit show. Yeah,
all at once, really hard. And then they came back
to me and says, see what you did, You're responsible
for this. I said, no, this is just a domestic
abuse thing. You're doing this and blaming it on me,
hoping they'll shut up, And it worked for a little while.

(01:27:28):
I did calm down because I could see that there
was having some sort of effect. I couldn't figure out
how it was happening. But it's like you set these
timelines out there, and they're able to travel through these
lines and figure out who you're talking with, who you're
communicating with. It's very esoteric and how they work and

(01:27:48):
how they operate. But I continue to do it, and
then my grandmother who has been dead will show up
and talk to me about everyone while I says, hey,
they're after you again. This is what they call it
doing YadA YadA YadA. And as long as you're aware,
you're gonna be okay. And that's true. As long as
I'm aware of what's going on subconsciously, I seemed to

(01:28:10):
be okay. And it seemed to be able to work
all way through it, you know. So no, you don't
stop talking about it. You've got to continue communicating about it.
So because there are others out there who probably going
through the same thing I am or have been, it
seems to mel it out. Like I said, quite a
bit good Robert.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
No, I know your face is out there, your name's
out there. But in the beginning, were you ever told
to shut up or were you actually encouraged to come out?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
So when when it hit me like a like a
like I said, a freight train ton of bricks, right,
and uh, I would go to like you know, I
have this massive, uh you know, full on three dimensional spaceship.
You know that I get pictures of and everything, and

(01:29:01):
I'd go to I remember going having to go to
work and being like, hey man, you guys are gonna
believe what's happening to me. And it's just like deadpan,
It's like, you're crazy, dude, what do you I'm like,
look at the pictures. I mean, look look at it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
They're like, I don't know, I don't That's not real, dude,
that's not real. And I remember thinking, oh my god,
there's something horribly wrong with with Earth. There's something so
so wrong that it just it scares me to think
about it. So I would be I was thinking, you know,

(01:29:37):
I got a first I needed to find out my
whys why is this happening to me? So I reached out.
I reached out to a bunch of people trying to
find out what was going on, and finally, you know,
I got into contact with with you know, my mentor, Cynthia,
and she really helped me out. And so I I

(01:30:00):
did have this feeling of I needed to I needed
to tell people that this is real, like there's something
going on here and it's odd that none of you
are aware of it, and and not only not aware
of it, but sometimes like violently disagreeing with you that

(01:30:20):
it's even real.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
And so you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
I did have that feeling like I gotta I gotta
tell people. But everything that I did it was like,
I don't know too it was like too easy, you know,
it just almost like it just all fell in my lap,
right because I never put any effort into really into
being out there, so everything that I did, it just

(01:30:46):
kind of naturally fell into my lap. And uh, I
mean I could have kept I could have kept going,
but I did feel like it was starting to get
too dangerous for me because I was starting to get
death threats a lot and uh, and people were coming
to me. Uh. And it wasn't like it wasn't like

(01:31:10):
an m my b thing. It was just like, man,
it's just scary people.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Then we're like, uh, when when one guy was a
pastor and he and he said to me that I
need to bathe in blood and I need to start
whipping myself with chains and I need to sacrifice myself
to the to to the Virgin Mary. And I was like,
well that was horrifying. And then other people that are

(01:31:36):
just like getting a hold of me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:39):
I'm high on PCP right now and I just want
to shoot everyone, and you know, so then I had
that I had that conference that I was supposed to do,
and uh, I ended up having to back out of
it because my grandma passed away, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
So I bailed on the on the conference. And it
was like twenty twenty twenty. So we were just starting COVID, right,
and you know, somebody was threatening my life and saying
they were going to go to the conference and kill
everybody there and I and I said, well what about security, man,
They're like no, So I I quit. You know, I'm

(01:32:17):
like and I'm done. But you know, uh I still like,
you know, doing things for friends and this and that
drive is the drive is still there. And yeah, it
just it just felt like it was a natural progression
of my experiences getting out and talking about it. But

(01:32:42):
I'm kind of kind of retired now because it it did,
its it got. It's dangerous, it really is. And the
way that people, I mean, I don't have any I
don't have any wave really like, I don't have security
guards outside watching me, you know. So I started to
get really paranoid about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Yeah, yes, some do get triggered a lot for some reason.
And I have no idea why now are you aware
of the man kids have a plan for Earth or
an agenda. And if they ever gave you a message
to relate to Muanity Adam, that's a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Yeah, there's two things. One is why they're here, and
the other is things that have been shown trying to
do it very quickly. They're here for two. They really
have a very very strict prime directive kind of view.

(01:33:42):
They will not intervene and they won't show us things
and guide us in any way. We have to find it.
We have to take action ourselves. And so the way
that they're helping us is to through the hybridization program,
which is to introduce hybrids of gray alien and our

(01:34:02):
octurian it mixed with human DNA. And I think we
all know the process to which that is done, but
that whole it's sort of like a grassroots, quietly in
the background supportive measure so that there's enough of them
here to make a difference on a psionic level to
the whole energy of the planet and the energy combined

(01:34:25):
with people like us that care and actually you know,
are open to sort of support and help us along
and by building volume up. And I've been told that
there are millions of abductees it's not a small operation.
So if you imagine that, and then each one of
us has got something like fifteen hybrid kids or more,

(01:34:47):
it's a lot. And then it's a whole process that
is going to be done without actually intervening per se.
But there is a tipping point where if we actually say,
we detonate a whole bunch of nuclear bombs all at
the same time, and the whole of humanity would be
about to be destroyed, then they would step in. What
they call the change is this gradual process that they're

(01:35:10):
hoping we can remain gradual, and they won't step in
unless it's literally at that point where if they don't,
it would not be an active love. Otherwise it's an
active love to watch us suffer and let and help
us to get there, which is way beyond us because
I'm just full of rage and what's done the animals
and all the suffering on the earth, like we all
probably are. But they keep a very detached, long wide

(01:35:34):
view of it. So that's why they're here. But and
the manted are. You know, we've talked about the hierarchy,
and they're all involved in that. But as far as
what I was shown There's been a few things, but
the most powerful was I was shown a dome and
I was standing on it. I sent you an illustration
of it that I made, and I would be just

(01:35:55):
tiny with de manted in this giant dome and the
war were made of alcoves, and like the dome itself,
was made of our coves, alcoves that were all dark,
but two different degrees. And in my illustration I didn't
do a very good job of showing how dark they were.
Some were darker than others, and it was like a
honeycomb in a way. Of these arches, and at the

(01:36:17):
top of the dome had a white light, like a
like a haze of white light beyond it that was
sort of like the edge of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
And the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
I asked what these were, and the mantids showed me
and one and we just we've just floated up, or
our minds did. We floated up into one of these
arches and went through, and we were then in space
looking down on Earth at night, and we were looking
down on America at night, and there was hardly any lights.
There was just just a smattering of lights. There wasn't

(01:36:50):
these clusters you have in Chicago La and New York,
you know, and and it was it was looking not
very healthy, and I said, to have a really bad feeling.
And I was told there would be a lot of
suffering that we have to get through to get to
a good place, and it all has to happen first.

(01:37:10):
But it isn't happening to teach us. It isn't happening
because they want it to happen. It's happening just because
we're making it happen, and it's going to happen, and
other forces working against us are making it happen. And
then I said, but will we make it? And it
showed me the dome of white light above and he said,
that is your higher consciousness, meaning humanity's higher consciousness, and

(01:37:35):
you will make it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
You will get there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
And that's the only time I've ever been told something
very specific about the future. I mean, it's a broad thing.
It's not like a date or something. But it was
really encouraging to think that no matter what crazy problems
we're going to go through and we will have to
at the end of it all, we will as a
species reach that higher consciousness. And I found that very encouraging.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Beautiful done.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
Oh, they Adam was exactly right when he was saying,
they've got this higher directive, because anytime I tried to
pry any information about the future of what was going on,
I was just met with a blank stare, and it
was just like they totally cut me off from the
thought process and I wasn't getting any information at all.

(01:38:28):
But what I would ask a different question, like what's
this safe? Like, for instance, when we entered this ship,
there's a great to go nine foot door right there,
and the door opens up. He's standing by the side
of me, by the right hand side of me, and
we walk into this room. It's just a small room,
and up on the top, up way up in the top,

(01:38:51):
there's this little laser light type of thing that just
is scanning our bodies. And I'm thinking, well, what's this
And he thinks for a minute, like maybe I should
tell him that, And he did that. He did answer me.
He said, soap, soap, soap. I was close to he'd
belcome to the definition of what this thing was doing.
What it was doing was clearing the physical body off

(01:39:13):
of idy contaminous may have for the next step that
we're going to go through. So there were times he
would talk to me, and it's like when we first
went into this ship. There as we walked into the
center of the ship, underneath it, right over the energy
propulsion unit or whatever it was, and stating right above it,
there's this in the middle of this room, there's this platform.

(01:39:37):
It was like in this little like a church pulpit
or something that was sitting right there. And in the
middle of it there's a little red ball. And in
the middle of the red ball there was three fingerprints.
There's place where put three fingers like this, and so
I put my fingers on there, and I got this
idea of a future me and the in the future,

(01:40:00):
there's you know, these scenes just kept rolling across the screen.
I can't remember any of those. I don't know what
it actually showed me, what was going to happen to me.
But I asked him, what's this? A goos deja vu?
So there are times when he would answer my questions,
I says, when he put us all back, I said, well,
what's why am I here? Why am I in the

(01:40:23):
family I'm with? And the only explanation he would tell
me is hiding.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
But when it came to really getting down the brass
bollets of everything that was going on. He wouldn't tell
me anything about Mecca's future. He would tell me anything
about my future that I was going to remember. It
was all a big blank. They're very very protective of

(01:40:51):
trying to influence you one way or the other on
your life path because they want to make sure that
you're strict to what you set up before you into
the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Robert, now regarding your beings, are you aware of they
have an agenda for the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Yeah, not that I wouldn't. I wouldn't call it an
agenda really is Uh, it's like I don't know, like
a helping hand.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Yeah. They they aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
They aren't going to uh you know, like Adam was saying,
they're they're not gonna intervene at all. Right, they have
they do have that uh uh pretty pretty strong non
interference except for in our lives of course, right, but
uh uh, they do have that non non interference thing

(01:41:48):
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
They they I once was wondering because like the sadness,
there was like a sadness with them with the mantis beings,
you know, asked, we know, why why are you feelings?
Trying to think about why are you feeling so sad?
And the reply came back that it was it was
because they were they were kind of sad for the

(01:42:11):
human race because we have we have an unlimited potential,
right we live we live in on this like really
epic uh a garden if you will, right, and we
are the caretakers of this of this garden. And they
were sad because you know, we're we're not we're not

(01:42:36):
reaching the potential that we could, and we're just completely
destroying uh o, our biosphere. You know, So they were
sad about that. Now they would they they told me
about future events. It was like it was like events
stacked on events, but there was it was almost like, oh,

(01:43:01):
I'm trying to think how to describe it. Uh you know,
if we go back to where they're they're kind of
like the the the pro programmers, if you will, right,
It's almost like they're here to kind of help, ah,
help with that, right, not so much come in. It's
like okay, okay, we use the video game analogy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
It's it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
They're they're not going to play the game for us,
but they're kind of like helping the code runs smoothly,
so uh without us being aware of it, right, but
there was this like, uh you know, a solar potential

(01:43:45):
solar event that has to do with our position, has
to do with the position of our solar system within
the galaxy and conjuncture with the super massive black hole
at the center. On top of that, they showed me, ah,
you know, you know that there's like a he take.

(01:44:06):
There's videos on YouTube about it. If you take pendulums, right,
and each each ball is connected to a shorter and
shorter wave and you and you push it right that
so you can see that the waves are all vibrating
at different at different uh frequencies, right, But eventually they

(01:44:26):
all there's a point where they all sync up, right,
and then they go they go back. So it's like
we're coming into this point where there's this kind of
like a vibrational synchronicity and they're just kind of helping
the program, if you will, along, so that way we
don't you know, reality is an unravel I guess is

(01:44:50):
the best way I can describe it, because it's like
trying to come up with words with concepts that don't
really exist. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
Wow, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
That's beautifully said. Since our last interview, I wanted to
know if anything out of the ordinary happened to you guys,
because we haven't had a chance to talk a lot.
So Adam, did something happen to you like ef you
wise after our meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
Not directly afterwards, like particularly about it. But I've continued
to have hypnosis sessions where I spent more time with
my hybrid daughter and with De Mantid, and they're they're
the ones I've spending most of the time with, and
so I've continued to do that and deepen those relationships

(01:45:40):
and find things out. There is one thing I'd like
to say that I feel is kind of important that
De Mantid showed me a few years ago now, which
was I was shown myself as a light being in
the sense that that is what is inside me. And
at that point, I was just shown that as me,
and it sort of tape us off to a point

(01:46:02):
like a candle, and then the arms just tape her
off to points, and then the feet and when I
look down, it's like a soft, warm, creamy light with
like flex moving around within it of that are brighter
and that's all it is, and that that's sort of
like the light energy at the center of me, and

(01:46:24):
I thought that was something to do with me, because
I was still learning these things at that time. And
then I was taken up to a ship and demant
it was down a long hallway and I followed down
the hallway and there was other grays around, and then
I became like this lights being again and I didn't
know why. And then next to me there's an identical one,

(01:46:45):
another light being exactly the same, and we're just sort
of floating above the floor, you know, and we're just
in that form. And they said, this is sauce. This
is the Source, and I found I instantly understood what
that meant. It meant that we all have this light
source inside of us, and source or what some people
call God, but the source, the power that drives everything,

(01:47:10):
is just another like being and is us. We are
all source, and none of us are special, none of
us are particularly better than anyone else. We are all
equal as equal components of the Source. And I thought
that was also very beautiful and humbling and exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Thank you, Well, we've been at this for almost two hours. Now,
do you guys have a that's a final statement, that
are causing statement that you might might get out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Adam, just that they're here for love. They're driven by love,
and we have to be elevated to that or we're
not going to see these things. We're not gonna be
of any use to the future of humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Don How about you?

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Yeah, the answers within your soul, there are beings of light.
I think Adam is probably one on one and probably
the same with Robert that I have personally not had
a lot of life experience on this planet. So it's
kind of a strange place to be. But you just
got to exhibit that light within you, let it shine

(01:48:19):
that it is. Kind of go out there and be
what it is, and be what you are and speak
your truth, and that will be a guiding path for
a lot of people out there looking for something. Because
they're looking for something they don't even know what it is,
and sometimes you just need to show up and be
there for them and then they you can get some

(01:48:41):
dialogue going about what is out there. This is a
huge planet, I mean, the huge universe, and there's so
much life out there that we're just just kind of
looked up. We're just kind of like a grain of
sand and on the sea. Yeah, on the on the

(01:49:02):
it's there's so many other planets and lives out there
that we've rather try to connect with that source so
that we can understand, uh that we are part of
something much bigger. Robert.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Yeah, just uh, don't don't fear. You gotta get rid
of the don't gotta get rid of the fear. Try
not to fear anything. And we've got to try to
end this uh, this separation uh problem that we're all
experiencing with each other, right versus left, or this versus

(01:49:42):
that you know, uh red versus blue. We gotta we
gotta get over these these uh separation programs and start
working together.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
But yeah, we're we're all. We're all that I we
are that, I am of that, I am of that,
I am everyone to say it right, So we are
all that God being. We're all just balls of light
and we're just experiencing an illusion of separation right now.
And this this illusion of separation is really only only temporary.

(01:50:19):
So oh yeah, hang hanging there and see what happens next.
It's gonna be a it should be an exciting ride,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
Well, gentlemen, thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
It's been fun. You guys are family, and you guys
are amazing and uh I appreciate all the information that
you are aboth to share with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
So thank you so much, thank you, thanks much, thank you,
And to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Those watching you hope you enjoyed today's interview. I'm your host,
mister Great. More interviews come up and I will see
you guys next time. So tak you everyone. Hello, everyone,
this is mister Great and thanks for watching today's episode.
If you are an abductee, contactee, or experiencer and you
believe that your story could help others, please feel free
to contact me through my YouTube channel email. When it

(01:51:06):
comes to experiencers, the t phenomena, and the future, remember
truth will out

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