Debbie Solaris: Her Contacts With The Arcturians

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of experience
or interviews. And today we've got another amazing soul coming
to us from the US. We have Debbie Solaris on
board today. Debbie Solaris is an et contact e, galactic historian,
inter dimensional traveler, galactic Akashak Records guide, and star seed
intuitive based in Colorado. After a faithful extraterrestrial contact experience

(00:40):
a few years ago, Debbie awakened to her true star
lineage and higher calling through her ancetral connection with the
Akahak Records. She has been receiving downloads of galactic historical
information and universal spiritual knowledge ever since. She feels it's
a big part of her mission while here on Earth
to help awaken others to their our own true divine

(01:01):
selves and cosmic origins. So, Debbie, thank you so much
for coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to share my
experiences and answer any questions.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you're the first time I saw you talking about
your experiences was on George Nourrii's show on Gaya.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, but they were.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Only just like small snippets like reels.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, So yeah, I was looking forward to hearing more
of your stories. So let's start it off. I've got
a whole bunch of questions lined up, so let's get
into it. So let's start from the beginning. When did
your first contact happen? I believe in twenty twelve, perhaps.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, it was twenty twelve, and I had like the
big event that happened in May of that year. But
I also had a second visit in December of the
same year, just to preface, you know, my experience, so

(02:03):
people have a better understanding just how shocking this was,
you know, for me anyway, I wasn't a person that
was a big UFO or big you know ET, you
know interest kind of person. You know. I was raised
Roman Catholic, I was, you know, in a military family.
I was actually in the military myself for a number

(02:24):
of years, and then I worked quite a few years
as a environmental health specialist for the public health department
in you know, my local area, you know. So it
wasn't like a normal thing for me to talk about
ETS or UFOs. It wasn't something I really followed. I

(02:47):
think I got a little bit more exposure to it
through my now husband at the time. He was my boyfriend,
and I noticed he read articles about the paranormal and
UFOs and things like that. So I think it just
kind of broadened my consciousness a little bit. But even
then I was very skeptical. So when I had my experience,

(03:14):
it happened was I was saying twenty and twelve, because
I think a lot of things were happening in twenty
and twelve. I mean, there was the end of the
mind calendar, there was a big election. I think that
was a year that Barack Obama got elected, and then
there was, you know, kind of a lot of changes

(03:35):
in our society during that time. And I felt at
the time, you know, just as a conscious human being,
that things didn't seem like they were going in the
right direction, you know, to seem like it was going
to hell in a handbasket. Actually, so so I was.
I always kind of joked that I'm a spiritual warrior,
not a spiritual warrior, so I was. I used to

(03:57):
spend a lot of time worrying about things. I don't
do so much anymore, but back then I worried a
lot about things, and I mean just personal things, but
also things going on with the planet. And so one
day I went to bed and I couldn't sleep, so
I just sent this like prayer out to the universe

(04:17):
asking for help for planet Earth. I was just sending
it out to any divine or extra extra dimensional beings
that might be listening in. And I didn't even know
really who I was sending it out to. It was just,
you know, just Jesus' mother Mary sended masters angels. I
don't care it was, you know, it was going out,

(04:39):
you know. So I spent, like I was say, several
hours just really focused on this prayer, and I really
sincerely wanted to see, you know, the planet changed for
the better, you know. So I think my intent was good,
you know. But then the next not you know day,
I woke up and you know, things back to normal.

(05:01):
I forgot about the prayer and didn't really think about
it again until two weeks later. I went to bed
as normal and then went to sleep, and when I
came back into consciousness, I immediately realized I was in

(05:22):
a different reality. You know. It was not it was
not what I It wasn't three D, it wasn't anything
I've ever seen before. A lot of people might think that, oh,
maybe she was just having a really lucid dream or
you know, it was kind of you know, just happened

(05:43):
during dream time, but it was not a dream. It
was really real. I guess that's the thing that stood
out about my experience is that it just was hyper real.
You know, it was more real and what you would
experience during a dream or even during you know, waking life.

(06:05):
It just felt like everything was really amplified, if that
makes sense. So what I noticed immediately was I was
looking around and it looked like I was in some
sort of a craft. That became very apparent. But it
wasn't like what you would see in Star Wars or

(06:26):
any of the sci fi movies where you know, a
lot of times they depict starships as being kind of
mechanical or like, you know, they are metallic. You know,
it wasn't metallic at all. It was very very organic.
I guess. It looked like it was made of light

(06:47):
in plasma like material that was very organic. It kind
of shifted and changed, but it had some sort of
a structure to it, but it wasn't metallic by any means.
And the ship seemed like it had its own consciousness.
That was something also that came apparent because it seemed

(07:07):
like it was leading me to something, you know, like
it it was showing like a series of lights or
something that was leading me to another space, and so
I just followed it along. I you know, a lot
of people asked me, oh, are you scared? I said, no,
I didn't have time to be scared. I was just
trying to figure out what the heck was going on,

(07:27):
you know, So I didn't have time to be scared.
I was just like, you know, okay, the ship wants
me to go here, I guess, and I guess. You know,
when you're in these spaces, you get this sense of
the vibration and and I have to also emphasize that

(07:48):
all the colors were more brilliant, the details were sharper.
That's what made it seem so hyper real, was that,
you know, even with you and me here right now
on zoom, you know, it just doesn't you know, there's
a kind of a fuzziness or a little bit of
a kind of a vague quality when you're in the

(08:08):
third dimension that you don't see when you're in these
higher dimensions, everything is crystal clear, you know. So I
knew I was in some sort of different dimension. You know,
I just immediately figured that out. So I followed the
ship to where it wanted me to go, and it
led me into this big room that I later learned

(08:30):
was called the orientation room, which I don't know exactly
what they mean by that, but I'll go with it.
But it was a big room and it had not
just it had I would say, about four or five
extraterrestrial beings waiting for me in this room. And I

(08:52):
could tell immediately looking at them that they were extraterrestrial.
I mean, there was no doubt. I mean, they didn't
look like Earth humans and they didn't look like gray
aliens because you know, like I said before, I was
reading articles that you know, my boyfriend at the time
was reading now now he's my husband, but that you know,

(09:14):
it was about grays and about you know, tall whites
and you know the you know, about these beings and
I could tell, you know, just by looking at them,
they don't look like gray aliens. You know, they looked
a little different. They had somewhat larger heads, you know,
so I didn't notice that, and there was you know,

(09:35):
their eyes were bigger, but they didn't have the gray
alien features. It was much more refined features. They weren't
super tall, but I got the sense that they were
really pulling their vibration down, you know, that they were
maybe depicting themselves in a smaller form in order to

(09:56):
better interact with me. And when you look at the beings,
their vibrations are so brilliant, you know, like their auras
are so bright that you have a hard time even
looking at them. It's just like you just see light
and some colors. And then I had to learn to
kind of take sneak glances from my periphery to see

(10:18):
what they look like. And that was really kind of
interesting to me, like, oh gosh, you know, trying to
figure out what these beings are and you know, let
me see if I can get a better look at them.
And like I said, they weren't super tall, but I
got the sense that they were pulling them their vibration down,
you know, so that was part of what I was seeing.

(10:40):
And at the moment, you know, it was kind of like,
you know, I didn't even have time to be scared,
you know, like people were asking, you know, sometimes people
ask me, you know, weren't you scared, And I said, no,
it's because these beings emit like all this love energy,
like they just it's just this really accepting like you

(11:02):
don't even you know, you just kind of feel comfortable
around them. I don't know. It's maybe a different experience
than maybe somebody that might have interacted with Grace or
with insectoids my experience, but I just felt like welcomed
and like, Okay, these beings are okay, They're not going
to hurt me, you know. So, so I was thinking

(11:25):
of questions I ask them when I was trying wondering
do they understand English? You know, what questions should I ask?
And I was, you know, formulating questions in my head.
And then even as I was formulating the questions in
my head, even before I could finish the question in
my head, they were answering my questions. So they were
tuning into me telepathically, which was freaking amazing, you know.

(11:47):
So I was just like, Wow, they're answering my questions
in my head.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So I got real excited about that because there wasn't
a language barrier, you know, there was I guess when
you're telepathically communicating, there is no language barrier, and there
is no room for deception or lying or trying to
hide things because you have that instant connection with these beings.

(12:14):
So uh So, obviously I asked them, you know, where
am I? What is this? Who are you? You know,
why am I here? So I asked them, you know,
the basic questions first, and what they told me, uh yan,
is that they are they were Arcturians from a star

(12:34):
system called Arcturis and uh and I'll describe what they
looked like in a moment, but because I know that
was one of your questions. But but what they told
me was that their star system is located in a
constellation called but what that we call Bodus anyway, not

(12:54):
maybe not what they call it. But and they had
like this holographic sphere that that we were in the
middle of that they kind of illustrated some of their
ideas somewhat through telepathy and then also through the sphere,
so it made it feel like you were there. I mean,
it was really amazing. It was technology I've never even

(13:18):
could even imagine, you know. So, so they were showing
me like where their star system was located and the
galaxy and you know, so you're you know, in this
backdrop stars. And I asked them a lot of questions,
you know, so I was kind of wondering, what the
heck is going on on planet Earth? You know, why

(13:38):
are things just so difficult here? You know, what's the
deal with religion, what's the deal with politics, what's the
deal with our social constructs? You know? And basically what
they told me was that we're living in a three
D matrix construct that's not real. They kept using the

(13:58):
word illusion several times, which I did not quite understand
what they meant by it, because I thought, well, things
seem real to me and on the three D. But
but they kept using the word it's everything's an illusion,
it's you know, And uh, I asked, why me, because
I'm nobody special, you know, I'm just you know, somebody

(14:21):
that worked for the health department, you know, in Colorado Springs,
you know, So I you know, why me? You know,
I'm nobody, you know important, And they said, well, you're
part of our family, you know that, you know, you
have chosen to be on Earth, you know, except in
a human body, in order to, uh, to do a mission.

(14:43):
And they didn't quite tell me at the time what
the mission was, you know, I think they were just
kind of giving me time just to sink everything in,
you know. But but I remember we were there in
that room for a while, and I kept asking question
after question after question getting back to what these beings
looked like. They did have larger heads, I would say,

(15:05):
larger than what we would consider human heads to have.
I couldn't tell if they had hair or not. It
looked like they didn't. But like I said, it was
so bright, you know, I couldn't look at them directly.
Their eyes were larger, they did have pupils and irises.
So that's what really made them stand out as opposed

(15:27):
to gray aliens, where you just see these black eyes,
you know, and their their features were very refined, you know,
very delicate. You know. It wasn't like gray aliens where
they look kind of scary. These beings looked very kindly.
They looked, you know, like you know, like they definitely
didn't looked alien, but they didn't look like, you know, oh, well,

(15:50):
scary or anything like that. I could tell that, you know,
they had very slim bodies. I think they were wearing
clothing I couldn't really tell. And they had three fingers.
I do remember that. I do remember the three fingers.
I didn't quite you know, understand what that was until

(16:11):
you know, I started reading about them later and uh uh,
and they just they had somewhat of a humanoid appearance,
but like I said, you could tell they weren't from Earth,
you know, so, uh, skin color was probably bluish green.

(16:33):
And it's interesting because, you know, since then, you know,
I've read other people's descriptions of Arcturians and they all
they seem to be, you know, closely in line with
what people describe classical Arcterians to look like. But I
understand that Arcturnians can come in many different heights, you know,

(16:54):
so it's not necessary They're not necessarily always short. I'm
only five, so I honestly think they were pulling their
vibration down so they wouldn't seem so scary or imposing,
you know, to somebody like me. That's kind of short,
you know. So so they did show me around the ship.
There was some amazing things they showed me. They showed

(17:18):
me I think the engine room I remember that and
it was just like some sort of massive crystal and
I don't know, it was just like I said, it
was technology I've never seen. And then the room that
really stood out to me was what they called the
sleeping room, but it didn't have any beds or anything
like that. And I remember going into that room and

(17:40):
the wall colors were changing the purple and then it
was like some sort of Asian landscapes, and I didn't
quite understand why that was happening. And they told me, well,
this is just images you find relaxing. So I was like, okay,
you know whatever. And then they kind of cut me loose,

(18:02):
so they said, you know, you can wander on your own.
You know, we got other things to do. And I
was like, okay, you know, it was like don't leave me,
you know, but they let me kind of cut me
loose at some point, and I kind of wandered the
ship and I found myself in this huge atrium. It
was kind of like the center most point of the

(18:23):
I just call it an atrium because I don't know
what else to call it. But it was several stories high.
You have to keep in mind that the ship was huge.
It was like a city sized ship. I mean it was,
and there was hundreds of beans on these ships, and
not all of them were Arcturian. As a matter of fact,
there was quite a few different species of beans. I

(18:46):
would say, the majority of them to me looked humanoid.
You know, they might have had different skin tones or
different features, but but to the most part, I would say,
there was some that weren't, you know, maybe some amphibian
looking beings or something, but I didn't see any reptilians,
you know. So I did see some beings that weren't

(19:10):
necessarily totally humanoid, but they all more or less were
most of them were humanoid. And this this centermost area
had several levels, and like I said, it was very organic,
and there was hundreds of beings just kind of walking around,
going to different places. And I noticed that there was

(19:33):
light shafts that were transporting these beings from one part
of the atrium to another, and it kind of had
a rainbow like color, and it looked really cool because
you're just like floating through the atrium going to another
part of the atrium. And so I was like, I
want to go on one of those, you know. So
I tried to step on one, you know. So I

(19:55):
stepped on one and it kept throwing me off, and
I couldn't understand what I was doing wrong. So about
the third or fourth time I tried. I was caught
by a being that I think was Pleaadian. I mean,
he looked like a Pleaadian to me. It was a

(20:17):
male being and very tall, looked humanoid. But when you
encounter these beings, they have like a luminescence about them
that you could tell immediately they're not Earth humans, you know.
They they kind of glow. I don't know, I know
that sounds dorky, but they do glow like they have

(20:39):
really glowy skin, their hair glows, I mean, their eyes
are slightly larger, you know, so very attractive looking beings.
And so the being was telling me, you know, pelopathically
this I guess Pleaadian if you want to call it that.
He told me telepathically, oh, you're not doing it correctly.

(21:00):
To set an intention where you want to go first,
then step on the shaft and then it'll take you
where you want to go. And so I thought, oh,
that's a good metaphor for life, you know, you know,
so you know, so, yeah, that makes sense. Okay, it
doesn't know where I want to go, so obviously it's
gonna throw me off, you know. So so I told
him telepathically, I'll do it your way, okay. So so

(21:24):
then I just picked a spot and it and then
it started transporting me in the middle of the air.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It was like on this rainbow like light and you
would see like these you know, other beings, you know,
being transported.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It was really kind of cool. And then the next
thing I knew, I woke up and I was in
my bed, you know. So I knew immediately when I
woke up that something extraordinary had just happened, and that
I was not the same person, you know, like something

(21:57):
had changed, you know. So I knew that something had shifted,
something had changed. And obviously the first person I told
was my husband, and he didn't believe me at first.
He thought it was having a crazy dream and I said,
oh no, this was not a dream. It was very
very real. And then he told me, I don't know,

(22:20):
I may be told only I would say a handful
of people. I didn't even tell my family at first
because I was afraid of being ridiculed. You know, I didn't.
I didn't. You know, this was back in twenty twelve,
you know, I think now, you know, alien contact is
a lot more accepted. I don't know, maybe not, but
maybe not in the mainstream, but in our community it

(22:41):
certainly is. But I didn't know how accepted it would be.
And you have to keep in mind, I was still
working my three D job, you know, so I definitely
had it hit from my three D job. And obviously,
you know, I did tell I did have a spiritual

(23:04):
teacher at the time, and I told her, and she
told me immediately that I had a contact experience. And
I said, but I'm not sure if I was there physically.
It felt like my consciousness was there. I don't know
if I was physically transported. I don't think so. Even
though when I was on board a ship, when I

(23:25):
would look at my hands or I look at myself,
I looked like myself, you know. I didn't look like
a blob or anything, but I still looked like a human,
you know. But I don't think I was there physically,
if that makes sense. But it had a profound effect

(23:47):
on me to where I would say it was definitely
a life changing experience, you know, for sure. And I'm
happy to tell you about the second visit, but I
want to give you an opportunity to ask some questions
if you want to do that, well.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Thank you. Yeah, your story so refreshing, it's so lovely.
I'm so glad you came on today.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. I want to share that
not all alien experiences are bad, you know. So I
think a lot of times we hear about contact and
it's fairly scary, or you know, people get probed or
they get experimented on. And this was really, I don't know,

(24:31):
it was very pleasant, Like I said it was. I
was actually depressed after my experience, because when you're in
those higher dimensions, you get that kind of high and
you get you know, very attached to the feeling of
being in higher dimensions, and then when you're back in
the three D, you know, you go through this period

(24:51):
of grieving and depression, which I'll explain a little bit
more later, but but thank you for saying that.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, totally get it. Now. Regarding the Acterians, to get
a sense of gender from them.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think, uh, they seem very androgynous, you know, so
it was hard to tell if they were male or female.
I think it was a mix actually, uh, but I
think they're so androgynosts it's hard to really tell, like, oh,
this is a female Arcterian or this is a male

(25:29):
Arterian and they all kind of look similar, you know,
like that was the one thing I noticed too. They
looked very similar to each other. And I and I
read later on that that's on purpose, you know that.
I don't know if people have read We the Arcterians
by doctor Norma Milanovich, but I think in that book,
you know, she's had her own encounters with Arcturian beings

(25:52):
and they explained that, you know, the reason why they
try to look so similar is not to have competition,
you know. So, but yeah, they were very androgynous looking,
so I couldn't really tell. I do think it was
a mix of genders. But like I said, I couldn't
have pointed out and said, oh, yeah, this is a
male one or this is a female one. But yeah,

(26:14):
that's an excellent question. I sometimes I've thought about that
myself from time to time.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
One time I had this experience with the gray she
was scanning my chest. All I saw was her face
and like the three fingers just above where my pain was.
I was having gallbladder attacks during that time. Oh wow, okay,
so but I felt I felt she was radiating female energy.

(26:39):
M not knowing her, not knowing who she was. I
knew she was. Yeah, so that was really strange.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh that's that's awesome. The one thing I did notice,
like after my experience was that I had chronic migraines,
you know, like I was. I spent all of my
life dealing with horrific mind migraines where sometimes I would
have to go to the emergency room they were so bad,
and I mean and they would knock me out for

(27:07):
a day or sometimes even three days. After my experience
on board the extraterrestrial ship, I had never had migraines
since then, I haven't had one. And it's been like almost,
you know, over ten years now since I had that experience,
and I haven't had a migraine since. My husband noticed
it too, because he said, you never complain about getting

(27:29):
migraines anymore. He says, I think it happened like after
you had that visitation. I said, yeah, I think something
happened on board the ship where the I mean, it
wasn't like they totally eradicated all my health issues. I
wish that was the case, because I still had to
struggle with stuff afterwards, but the migraines went completely away.
So I'm glad that you were able to find like

(27:51):
some healing with this being that you and Kens. Yeah,
it was really a strange.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You talked briefly about a crystal in the what was it.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
The engine room. Yeah, I don't know. It was huge,
and it kind of glowed and it was in the
middle of I don't know, like some it was kind
of like it was within some sort of I don't
want to say use the word mechanical, but it was
some sort of uh technology. I guess that was maybe

(28:28):
using the crystal for amplification of energy or it was
kind of like an energy device, I guess for lack
of a better term. And honestly, I don't remember everything
the Arcterarians have told me about what was going on,
but I just remembered that huge crystal and it was glowing,
and it didn't seem like it was dangerous, like we

(28:49):
were fairly close to it, and it didn't seem like
whatever you know, energy was giving off was was harming
us in any way. But it was definitely huge. I
do remember that, so I think that's some way maybe
the ship was utilizing the trystal for amplification of energy

(29:12):
to transport the ship. Like I said it was technology
I've never seen. I mean a lot of what I
saw on that ship was just amazing technology. It was
just like beyond anything you would even see on a
sci fi movie, you know, like even when you watch
some of the sci fi like Star Trek or you know,

(29:32):
Star Wars. I was a big Star Wars fan. You know,
I love Star Trek too. But you know, a lot
of times the technology looks like it was constructed or
like somebody made it. You know, it was very mechanical.
This was looked very organic. It just didn't look like
something that was made by human hands, if that makes sense. Yeah,

(29:55):
great question though.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Do you ever try to get into contact with the vessel?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah? Sometimes, Yeah, I've I've tried. I have not had
any visits, at least not since then where it was
kind of spontaneous. I you know, I think maybe because
once you're on board the ship, you get very attached

(30:22):
to it. You know. It's like almost as if they
don't want me to not want to come back.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
So it's almost like because I always wondered, you know,
why why didn't I Why haven't I had visits since?
You know, and I think they just gave me just
enough visits to get me activated, but not so that
I become dependent on, you know, wanting to go back,
because it's very addicting being there. You know. It's like,

(30:55):
I'm serious. I went through months and months of depression
after my both of my visits, where you don't want
to be here. You just feel, you know, depressed, and
you're crying all the time. I remember I was commuting
to works. I had a you know, hour commute each way,
and I was commute to work and I'll be crying

(31:15):
in the car. Oh, I missed the ship. I wish
I was back on board the ship. You know. So
I do think there it was purposeful for not for
me to go back. I mean, I've had you know,
meditations where I connected with my guides or I connected
with my star family, so I you know, so since then,

(31:37):
you know, I've definitely I stay in contact with my
Star family. It's it's kind of like a normal thing
now for me. And sometimes they give me very practical advice,
you know, like like buying this house that we live
in now. I mean one time, my guys told me
it's time to buy a new house, and I was like, really, okay,
I mean, it wasn't even something my husband and I

(31:59):
were thinking of about, you know, is this like just
out of blue? They said, Okay, time to buy a
new house. So I don't question my guides anymore, you know,
So my guides tell me something. I have some other
stories too that I'm gonna share with you in a moment.
But my guides tell me something, I just go ahead
and do it. So I called our real estate agent
and within a week we were buying a new house.

(32:21):
So I don't know, It's like, sometimes sometimes it's very
practical and sometimes it's just very esoteric, you know. So
sometimes I get messages that are very very esoteric. But yeah,
that's kind of interesting that you asked that, because I
do miss being on board the ship even now, you know,
even you know, twelve years later, I do miss you know,

(32:48):
I miss the beings, even the Pleiadian beings. I miss them,
you know. I miss the feeling that you get when
you're on board the ship. I think the closest thing
I can describe to it is like a near death experiencer,
you know, when they are in some alternate realm and

(33:08):
they have to make a choice whether or not they
want to stay in that realm or go back, and
then they choose to go back, and then they they
they miss that feeling of being in the higher dimensions
and interacting with these you know, extra dimensional beings, you know.
So it's very, very similar to that. But yeah, that's
an excellent question.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I had a well regarding that depression. I sort of
went through that too. What I'd call it like a
sort of play Adian angelic experience. Yeah, a sort of
blond lady all in white showered me with love.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
M h.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Every cell in my body felt love, and I felt
paralyzed because of it because it was still good, and
I thought, am I in heaven? My dead? Yeah, and
so there's like a whole story around that. So so
I call it love radiation. So it reminds me a
bit of that.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, that's how I felt too. I felt like just
get bathed in this you know, love and acceptance and
joy and all these really positive feelings, and then you
when you're back in the three D, it's like we're
so disconnected from everything here that we just go through
this withdrawal experience, almost like a withdrawal, you know, like

(34:18):
withdrawal from a drug or something. I don't know, but
I think that's why, you know, my visits have been
very limited, because you do get addicted to it. It's
so anyway, i'll talk about a little bit about my
second experience and then we can get into more questions.

(34:40):
So my second experience was in December twenty twelve, so
almost exactly six months after the first visit, and it
was a little bit different in the sense that it
was the same starship. The being that was actually helping
me with the shaft was the one that I saw
when I when I had my second visit, so I

(35:03):
didn't necessary I didn't connect with the Arcturarnians at all
during that visit. It was two Pleadian beings, with the
male that helped me with the light shaft in the
first visit and then a female that was there with him,
and basically they told me something like we're going to

(35:25):
have to be quick because we can't hold the transmission
or we can't hold the frequency. And I didn't quite
understand it, but it seemed like they were having a
harder time bringing my low dimensional self on board this
ship or something. But so they told me to pay attention, like,
you know, we're going to tell you some things really

(35:47):
quickly and just pay attention, you know. So I was like, okay,
you got my attention. And so the information they were
sharing with me was very, very personal. It was information
about my father who had committed suicide in two thousand
and seven, and it was a devastating experience for me

(36:07):
and my family during the time. I mean, because he
just committed suicide out of the blue. And and so
they told me that, excuse me, I try to straighten
myself out here. So they told me that he was
his soul was going through like some sort of spiritual purgatory.

(36:27):
But that wasn't the right word, but it was the
closest thing. It was almost like, uh, he had broken
a soul contract and that he had to do what
they call spiritual labors or spiritual exercises to make up
for the breakage of the soul contract. But they said

(36:51):
he was okay and that his soul, you know, was
happy and not to worry about my father. And the
other thing they told told me was that hell was
a human construct. That souls don't go to hell, you know.
So that was something I learned as a Roman Catholic,
you know, they said, souls do not go to Hell.

(37:11):
There is no Hell. Uh. You know, souls will choose
certain to have certain experiences. It might seem like hell,
you know, but there is no you know, physical location
called called Hell. And they said that my father's soul
was okay and he was happy where he was. And
then the other thing they told me was, you have

(37:34):
a friend who's been trying to reach us. And and
they described who this friend was, and it was interesting
because I was going to have lunch with her physically
the next day, you know. So I was like, Okay,
they're tuning into this friend. And and they said, well,
we've been trying to send messages back to her, but
her frequency is too low, so she you know, so

(37:56):
she hasn't been receiving our transmissions. And so I was like, okay,
well I'll tell her that you're trying to reach out
to her. And you know, so I was just like, okay,
that sounds interesting. And then they told me about my cat. Okay,
so I know a lot of people, you know, they
go on my website. They're wondering why I have this
whole page devoted to my cat, Piglet. And the reason

(38:20):
for that is because Piglet is my greatest teacher, you know.
So she was my first teacher, and she was my
greatest teacher. So Piglet, what they told me about Piglet,
Piglet was a very unusual cat. Okay, she was a
hairless sphinx, so that all made her stand out in itself.
But she was unlike any cat I've ever had. She

(38:44):
was one of those cats that I could take her
anywhere and she would just be totally happy. You know,
most cats are kind of skittish. They like their routines,
you know, they don't like being in the car. Piglet,
you could drive her anywhere and she'll just sit in
the backseat like a human and be looking out the
window and be totally happy. I could take her to

(39:07):
any parties, any anywhere with a bunch of people. She
would just hang out with everybody. So I knew there
was something different about my cat. So Piglin and I
because of her, I guess demeanor, I thought, well, she'd
make a very excellent therapy animal, you know. So we
actually both got certified as an animal assisted therapy team

(39:29):
through the American Humane Association, and so we worked, we
did volunteer work for six years. I mean We worked
with soldiers at Fort Carson that were wounded warriors. We
worked with Alzheimer's patients physically and mentally disabled children and adults.

(39:52):
We also worked with children that were learning to read
at the library. So we did all kinds of different
pro during those six years. We were part of the
American Red Cross, so we got certified through the Red
Cross also, and so we did a lot of work
with military families that have lost you know, their their

(40:13):
fathers or mothers, and so so we did a lot
of work and I do. And what they told me
about Piglet when I was on board the ship was
that she was actually a Pleaadian being, So she was
a Pleadian soul that was part of the Pleaadian Light Council.
So she was a very considered to be an elder
or somebody that had some you know, a lot of experience,

(40:37):
and that she had a contract with me to prepare
me for my mission. So the whole thing of us
doing the animal system therapy was training for me and
how to be of service to others, you know. So
it was that's why I call her my greatest teacher,
because before that I was just a regular human. I

(40:58):
wasn't really focused on helping other people. I was just
trying to get through on I mean, I was traumatized,
you know, I had traumatic childhood. You know, I was
a trump traumatized adult, you know. So I was just
trying to survive, you know, just doing the human thing.
And I think, you know, doing the work with Piglet
just you know, expanded my consciousness, you know, to the

(41:20):
point where I could even have an experience like the
extraterrestrial experience. So so those are the three messages they
had to share with me. And then boom, I was
back in my bed and everything was back to normal.
And it took a while, I would say, to process
what happened to me. So it wasn't like I knew

(41:42):
immediately like, oh, I'm going to be the spiritual practitioner
and I'm going to you know, be a public figure
and I'm going to do this and that whatever, you know.
I you know, I wasn't even a concept at that point,
you know. I was just trying to figure out what
the heck happened, Why did this happen, and to me,
what was the purpose of it? And so immediately I

(42:04):
started getting my hands on as many books about extraterrestrials
as possible, you know, so that would be a normal thing, like, Okay,
what are Arcturian beings? Let me see what they have
on Amazon about Arcturians. And the first book I ordered
was We the Arcterians because it, you know, just seemed
like it was the closest thing I could find. I know,

(42:25):
there's David K. Miller writes some really nice books about
connecting with the Arcterians. So I've also read those books,
and and there's others the Arcterian Anthology, you know, by
Tom Kenyon. I mean, there's all kinds of books now.
But at the time, you know, I was just going

(42:48):
through this journey of research and trying to gain as
much information as possible. So I took as many spiritual
classes as I could, you know. So so I'm lucky
I live in Colorado where the spiritual community is very active. Here.
There's a lot going on here. I mean, we're very progressive.

(43:11):
So there's all kinds of offerings, you know, different classes,
different trainings, you know. So I took quite a bit
of different trainings and all kinds of modalities, you know.
So I was just being open and I didn't know
what the purpose of it was at the time. I
would just go and take different things, you know, like okay,
crystal healing, Okay, that sounds interesting, let me check that out,

(43:34):
or reiki or you know, Native American medicine wheel you know.
I mean, it was this whatever you know seemed interesting,
you know, but it all had a purpose. But I
at the time was like a sponge, you know, just
go to check everything out. And also the other chain
thing I noticed was that my extra sensory perception really expanded.

(43:58):
Like I didn't have any abilities before. I mean, that
was just like, I mean, I was just the dumbest
sleep human, you know. And then after my visits, it
was just like I was tuning into everything. I was
for the first time ever, I was seeing UFOs a lot.

(44:20):
I mean a lot. I mean, and I think with
UFOs you almost have to be tuned into their frequency
in order to be able to really see them. So
I think that's why you can have like a group
of people in the same location looking up at the
sky and not everybody's going to see the same thing
because they have to be tuned in. And so I

(44:43):
think that's why with the CE five events. They always
have people do the meditations and you know, try to
prepare them, you know, to expand their consciousness to where
maybe they can tune into that. But yeah, I saw
UFOs and I mean where it was even during the day.
I mean it was amazing. And then I was having

(45:07):
downloads downloads of information about galactic wars, galactic history, galactic
star races, star systems. This is all information I never learned.
I mean I never had access to this information.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I went to college, but they sure weren't teaching that,
you know, regular university, you know, so I didn't. I
was all of a sudden I knew about star systems.
I was like, how do I know this stuff? You know,
I don't. I never take an astronomy in my life.
I mean I do have a science degree, but my
degree was in biology, you know, so I definitely wasn't

(45:47):
a physics major, you know, or studying astronomy. So I
didn't know how I knew so much about these star systems,
you know which And this was happening for years, you know,
like I was just getting downloads, and I was getting
downloads about people like I would I would meet somebody
and I would immediately know like, oh, they they had

(46:10):
a lot of past lives as a Pleadian or or
they they they their ancestor was a Celtic warrior. I mean,
it was this kind of random stuff. And so I
was taking reiki classes in my hometown, the Castle Rock.
Castle Rock is located just south of Denver. It's a
it's a growing community. It's pretty it's getting pretty big here.

(46:32):
But it's considered to be a small town. But it's
actually not a small town anymore. But we did have
spiritual classes downtown. And so I was taking reiki and
I was talking to my reiki teacher. I said, I'm
getting these downloads and I don't know where they're coming from.
And she says, I think you're getting them from the
Akacak Records. And I said, what are the Akajak records.

(46:53):
I didn't even know what they were. This was like
in twenty fourteen. And she says, well, I teach how
to read the Akajak records. You should come to one
of my classes. And I said, heck, yeah, you know,
sign me up, you know. So, so that's how I
got connected with the Akacak records as far as you know,
doing them as a profession, you know, because before I

(47:15):
was just like, you know, I you know, I don't
I don't know what this stuff is, you know. But
but I found as I was doing her classes that
I had a natural affinity for it. Like I would
just pap into the records and be downloading information about people,
you know. So so I started off doing a kajak
records reading as a hobby. You know. It was kind

(47:36):
of like, you know, I was still working my job,
you know, I still had my forty hour a week
job and my little government got job, and then I
was doing you know, record readings on the side. And
the reason why I came up with the name Debbie
celearis it's not my real name. But I was trying
to hide what I did from my workplace. That's the
main reason. It wasn't that I was trying to be

(47:58):
cool or fancy or you know, trying to you know,
oh yeah, I'm so cool, I you know, do gakajak readings.
It was because I just wanted to hide what I
did from my my managers and my co workers because, uh,
they were very judgmental about that kind of thing, and
I didn't want them to know I was doing all
this wo WU stuff on the side, you know. So

(48:21):
so that's why I came up with that name, and
it kind of stuck, you know, so you know, I
just go by that now. It's kind of like my
I don't know stage name if you want to call
it that. But but yeah, it's been like this massive journey.
I mean, it wasn't like, you know, everything was apparent
to me all at once. It kind of like it
was almost purposeful that I had to go through all

(48:41):
of these experiences in order to, I guess, come to
what I'm doing now. But it was not and it
wasn't an easy journey either. It was very difficult. Like
I said, depression and then times or I didn't even
want to be here, or times when you know, you
go through that dark I the sole experience, you know,

(49:02):
where you kind of questioned everything and then you move
past it. The other thing I want to mention too
is I was having interdimensional travels and I did experience
some remote viewing and some telepathic connections where you know,

(49:22):
I would pick up on people's thoughts, which I didn't
like that. I didn't like that part of it. Or
I was interdimensionally traveling into other dimensions that was happening
a lot. I was just having strange experiences. One of
the strangest experiences I was having was for a while
I noticed I don't know if this was government or

(49:45):
who these beings were, but I was having black SUVs
follow my car all the time. And then one time
there was three black helicopters hovering over in my backyard.
And so it kind of makes me wonder if the
government knows when somebody has a contact experience, because they

(50:06):
seem like and it was these were all unmarked, you know,
like the cars didn't have any license plates, and there
was like men in suits that were coming out of
the cars, and so that was weird and I still
don't really have an explanation for it. But it happened
for like a year and then it was like it
just dropped off, you know. It was just I don't

(50:27):
know if you've had other experiencers have similar experiences afterwards,
but but it was weird. I just but it wasn't scary.
It was just kind of like kind of annoying more
than anything else. But so it kind of, you know,
it makes you wonder, like how tuned in is the
government with you? Know some of these et contacts, you know,

(50:52):
not that they're facilitating it, but that they tune into it,
you know, so.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
They do to well, they do want to know what
you know.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Through them, so exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, so they're quick curious.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah. Then there was a time when my husband and
I were having bad dreams of dark entities, you know,
breaking into our house, you know, so I did a
house clearing after that. I was like, oh, no, we're
not We're not having that. We're not having any dark entities,
you know. So there's a you know, to go through
a number of strange experiences even after the visit itself,

(51:29):
you know, so that's part of the whole process. Were Yeah,
they were Yeah, I don't know if there were men
in black or what they they looked like just dark
beings and they were scary. I mean, they were kind
of scary looking. I would say shadow beings would probably
be the way I would describe them. I don't know

(51:53):
there were four fourth dimensional beings or what they were,
but but I remembered I had a nightmare, like it
was really scary. They were trying to pull me out
of my bedroom window. And and then the very next night,
my husband had a dream that they were breaking into
our house, and so I said, okay, this isn't a coincidence,
you know. So I ended up doing somehouse clearing work,

(52:17):
so I'm like, well, we're not having that, you know.
And then after I did that, everything was okay, you know.
So you know, so the clearings do actually work. But
but yeah, thank you for allowing me to share my
story at such detail, because sometimes, you know, you're on
some of these shows like you were mentioning, you know,

(52:39):
on Gaya. You know, you only have so many minutes
to tell your stories, so you have to tell it.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Pretty fast, you know, I want everything.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah, No, I love that. No. I think I think
sometimes the devil is in the details. You know. It's
like you got to you know, the details is what
really might make a difference for someone.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
So you talked a bit about your cat, Piglet. Could
you talk? Can you explain to us what happened to
you on I ninety five?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh it was I twenty five. Yeah, that was a
really bizarre experience. So I used to do this animal
sister therapy with Piglet. You know. So because I lived
in Castle Rock, a lot of our volunteer work was
in Colorado Springs, which is an hour's south or I

(53:29):
would say about forty five minutes south depending on where
you go, but between an hour and forty five minutes.
So we were constantly going up and down I twenty five,
and I remember there was some event that she and
I were going to and she was in the car.
She was in her little carrier, you know, because I
always had you know, there's certain protocol you got to
have with animal sister therapy. The cat can't just be

(53:51):
hanging out. They had to wear the little vest and
they had to have like a lee sean and you know,
so so just to keep protocol, I had her in
my carrier. And we were in the car and we
got hit by a kind of a hit and run
situation where somebody just clipped our car and the car
spun around, and fortunately I didn't hit anything else, but

(54:17):
there was pieces in my car all over the highway,
and I was terrified, you know. So so I sat
there for a while and I was trying to figure
out what to do. Do I need to call somebody?
And then there was this dark suv that showed up
and a man got out of it, and I could

(54:39):
tell immediately this man was not from Earth. Okay, he
looked human, but he was extremely tall, and he had
very light blonde hair, and he was just too good looking.
I don't know, it's just like, you know, you encounter
these beings and you're like, okay, there's no humans that

(54:59):
look this good, you know. I mean, he was wearing
a plaid shirt and blue jeans, like he was trying
to fit in. But there was something off about his outfit.
I don't know how to describe it, Like you wouldn't
see people in Colorado dress like that, you know. So
so I knew immediately that, okay, there's something off about

(55:19):
this guy. But he asked me if I was okay,
and I said yes, and he said, let me help
you pick up the pieces of your car, and I said, well,
thank you, and and then he said, okay, here you go.
And then he got back in his car and left.
And then exactly five minutes after he left, another similar

(55:45):
suv showed up and a woman got out of it.
And again she was very tall, she looked blonde, she
had kind of reddish blonde hair, way too beautiful to
be just a normal, you know, good Samaritan or a
good person. Just I was like, what the heck is

(56:05):
And then she asked me, are you both okay? And
I said, how did she know there's both of us
in the car? I mean, I mean because I mean
because Bigley was in her carrier and there was no
way somebody could have looked in because we had tinted
windows and figured out there was somebody else in the car.
So so I knew immediately, okay, this isn't a normal human.

(56:27):
So I figured they were probably Pleaadians, you know. But
so I just told her, yeah, we're okay. And then
she said, let's move your car out out of the way.
So so she helped me get my car to the
kind of helped guide me to the I guess the
shoulder of the highway. And then she checked in and

(56:49):
she was like, you know, are you sure you're doing okay?
And I said, yes, I'm fine. I just need to
call I don't know, on Star or somebody, you know.
So and then she got back in her car and
and again it was like the way she was dressed
looked like somebody that was trying to fit into Earth
but didn't quite get the sense of the fashion because

(57:12):
her her dress looked almost a little old fashioned for
somebody that was that young and beautiful. She was wearing
like a sweater that was kind of wrapped around her shoulders,
and it was kind of like this flat pastel color,
and and it was just weird, like you know, sometimes
you look at beings and you're just like, Okay, that

(57:33):
looks a little weird. It doesn't look like any anyway
like a you know, human on in Colorado with dress.
It was like somebody that was trying to fit in,
you know, maybe didn't get quite at the memo. But
so so I meditated on that experience afterwards, and uh,

(57:57):
I don't know, I think I was having a dream
or something. It wasn't even meditation. I think it was
a dream. And I was sitting down with a being
having tea with Piglet. And I used to go to
a lot of tea places. There was a tea place
in Manitou Springs that we'd go to after some of
our ore. You know, animalsist to therapy visits because they

(58:20):
just loved her there, you know, so they would just
like let me bring the cat, you know. So I
was sitting to have some tea and I don't know,
cookie or something and Piglet would just hang out. And
so I had this dream I was having tea with
a being, but it was this blonde woman you know,
that I encountered, you know, on the highway, and I

(58:43):
asked her, who are you? You know what happened? You know,
I don't understand what happened. And she said in the
dream that she was the higher soul aspect of Piglet
and that the male being was counterpart, and that they
were checking in on us to make sure we were okay.

(59:07):
But it was nothing, nothing to be worried about. It
was nothing bad. It was just they were checking in
on us because we had, you know, a pretty you know,
scary accident. And so it's kind of interesting how these
extraterrestrial beings can check in on us, you know. And
then there's alternate aspects of us that you know, maybe

(59:28):
and that was when I first started having I think
an idea that you know what, there's not just one
of us, there's like alternate aspects of us and in
many different dimensions. And how interesting that these alternate pleadiant
aspects of my cat was able to visit us in

(59:50):
the three D you know, that they're able to manifest
themselves in the three D you know, which is really
pretty crazy. But thank you for asking about that, because
that was probably one of the we experiences I've ever had.
And I still don't even know if I could describe it,
like give it justice, because it was such a weird experience.

(01:00:11):
It was just too weird to be just the kind
of random, coincidental kind of thing. Especially when the female
being asked if we were both okay, you know, it's
kind of like, how does she know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
There was?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, you know, so there's you know, so there. I
had some experiences, you know where I've astra traveled and
was able to visit uh galactic federationships, you know, and
another visit where I was able to remote view Talsetti.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Is bizarre things that I think once you get tuned
into that frequency, you're able to have those you know,
abilities and experiences. But thank you for asking about that.
That is when I'm my fondest memories, and it's I
think it, you know, it just goes to show that
there there's extraterrestrials among us. You know, they're not it's

(01:01:12):
not like we're here alone, you know. It's just that
people aren't tuned in. Most people aren't, so they don't
see them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Your experience reminds me of my dad's when I called
it my second craft.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, like a week apart.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
When it just flew over the tree line, I had
the impression to go and get my folks, so I
ran back inside after doing the C five and my
mom sees it when it's like fairly close. My dad
saw it a bit further on, But from that moment on,
my dad started having contact, and not too long ago
he woke up and he said, yeah, there's a I
woke up. He was sleeping, of course, and in the

(01:01:48):
bedroom was a weird looking clown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
So his he the like your normal clown, but something
was off, you know how the way it dressed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So I thought that that's like a typical type of
gray screen and that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
So that reminded me of your story.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah. No, I'm glad you shared that. I personally hate clowns,
so if I saw clown in my bedroom, I would
be freaking out. I don't know. I did not like clowns.
There's something about them that are really freaky, probably a
childhood experience. But that's a story for another time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
But I remember watching the movie when it came out.
Oh yeah, that's freaky, so traumatizing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah, freaky, But you didn't you have like an experience.
You said you had an experience you wanted to share
with me. So I want to see if I can
tune in to see what's going on with your.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Experience regarding to the personal question I had.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, the personal question. Yeah, yeah, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Read it to you, Okay. I wanted to find out
because I never knew why I was having these experiences.
I met my British fiance, a Gray abductee from England,
and she told me that my granam my maternal grandmother's bloodline,

(01:03:03):
which her surname is ale Win. So her name was
Mary angel Aowin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Oh and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Through her and through well through her, I found out
that she was that Alwin's were from noble, They were noble,
so my grandmother was from noble descent. She didn't know
all she knew that she she came from an important family.
So we thought it like they were Irish, but we
didn't know. We didn't have but growing up in the
seven means, we didn't have the Internet or right, Yeah,

(01:03:33):
so I know the man is still up. And through that,
through Google, I was able to find out that the
word alewin is comes down from a really old bloodline
called elf Wine, which means uh elf friend, noble friend,
magic friend. And only recently through a thanks to a

(01:03:53):
uh a documentary on the Loheem the Nephilim uh the Onaki,
I found out that the word elf and elf Wine,
which is a E l F, means shining ones and
wine means friends. So my ancestors are called friends of
the shining ones and China ones. They're like gods. Basically.

(01:04:16):
I was curious if you were able to get any
and get any info on that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Yeah, so you said this was in the UK. Yeah,
the UK, And uh so I just know this because
my husband is also from the UK. Is genetics, I
guess are And through I think some some readings and

(01:04:44):
a galactic astrology reading he had, we discovered that his
genetics came directly from Merlin, which is really freaky. But
and he's part of the Stuart family, which is Scottish.
But they were a prominent family, you know, they were
considered be nobility in Scotland and that was his mother's

(01:05:06):
maiden name was you know Stewart, you know, so you know,
So I do believe with the UK in particular, and
probably with your family too, that there were certain families
that had extraterrestrial genetics that or maybe had contracts with extraterrestrials.

(01:05:31):
Either they had contracts with extraterrestrials or they were descended
from extraterrestrials that were colonists on planet Earth. And actually
the UK had a lot of colonies, and the reason
a lot of et colonies because it's a location on
planet Earth that there's a lot of lay lines going

(01:05:52):
through it. So it was a vantage point for quite
a few extraterrestrial groups to spend time there. And my
understanding is that there was Pleadian beings that had colonies there,
there was Laryns, and then there was also Andromedins that
had colonies in the UK. So a lot of times

(01:06:16):
when I was doing a Kajak readings for people with
UK ancestry like yourself, I kept seeing, Oh, you have
you know, Andromedin genetics, or you have laryn genetics, or
you have some sort of direct genetic line to extraterrestrial beings.

(01:06:36):
Now because your family's connected with elves I'm guessing, or
or elementals. My guess is that you know if I
I mean, I'm not without you really connecting with your
Kajak records at the moment, but you probably have an
andromaed In and or a Laryn connection. Okay. So I

(01:07:00):
would say most likely your ancestry is Larin Andromedin, and
your family is probably very connected to that because there
was a lot of elemental beings that were visited that
came to Earth with these extraterrestrial colonies. So a lot

(01:07:20):
of the fairy beings and the elementals came to Earth
from other star systems. A lot of people think they
came from Earth, but no, they actually originated from other
star systems. And there was a lot of elemental beings
associated with the Laryn planets and also with Andromeda. This

(01:07:41):
would be Andromedin constellation. Okay, So, so I do think
your family probably has and humanoid genetics, but Laran Andromedin,
and just looking at you, you have a lot of
Andromedin features. You know, you're you're very lanky, very then

(01:08:01):
that looks and Dramaedin to me. You look more and
Dramedin than you do. Maybe Laren, but I would say
Laryn Andromedin. So I don't know if the answers your question,
but that's what I'm picking up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Well, it gives me something to research at least.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so, and you might want to
maybe explore your ants, you know, your galactic ancestry through
I don't know, QHHT session or galactic Kakashak session, you know. So,
you know, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what
connections you have, because there's a reason why you're doing

(01:08:40):
this kind of work, and I think it's mainly to
expand consciousness. I think you're mainly trying to get people
more open to the idea that you know, we are
not just you know, solitary humans, you know, in this
little planet just hanging out, you know. So, so I
don't know, I hope that helps. But but when I

(01:09:00):
read your personal your personal question, I thought, oh, you know,
I just felt like a lot of love, you know
for your family, you know, like like it must have
been difficult for your family to be to carry these
genetics and not feel like they fit in or feel

(01:09:22):
a little different, you know, saying so, I wouldn't be
surprised if your grandmother or some people in your family
had psychic abilities, but maybe they didn't quite understand it,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
So I know my grandmother, well, she told my mom
that she would have a lot of dreams about flying
mm hmm. And my mom, before she passed away, dreamt
about seeing a beautiful like blonde person on the lake
and eventually he did like a motion with his hand,
and eventually it turned to what she described was a reptilian,

(01:09:55):
but she didn't know how to describe it because she
never she felt so much fear from that reptilian. Uh ray,
leathery skin, very dark, and she didn't like that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine that would be scary for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Which was into angels and pendulums crystals a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Yeah, and I'm not surprised to hear that. Yeah, you
see that. I think that was the case with my
husband too. Like his his mother was always interested in
the paranormal and UFOs. And I mean she was just
a you know, a church going lady, you know. I
mean she was I think the master of the choir
or something. I mean, she was very musical, you know,

(01:10:37):
And so for that reason, my husband, Terry was always
interested in UFOs and the paranormal. So I think there's
a connection there, you know. So, and I do notice
that a lot of people in the UK are very
tuned into, you know, the idea of the paranormal and
you know what's beyond, you know, for that reason, because
a lot of their genetics did not come from Earth,

(01:10:59):
you know. So, so, yeah, that's one of the things
I want to explore that in the connection with King
Arthur and Merlin and the extra terrestrial connection there, I'm
fascinated by that. I just think there's I don't think
those beings were We're not from Earth, at least Merlin wasn't.

(01:11:22):
I don't know. I think there was something that he
was magical for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Okay, so if Avalon was actually a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Ship or yeah, exactly, Yeah, Avalon was actually the name
of a Laren planet. And so I think when Merlin
and King Arthur were trying to establish Avalon on Earth,
I think maybe they were trying to establish the larenh

(01:11:52):
the original Laryan human template. You know, that this this
idea of paradise, you know, on on planet Earth, because
the original was a paradise planet, you know. So, so
I do think it's a kind of a template or
a concept. But yeah, they could have been the Starship.
I meant, I wouldn't rule out that possibility either, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Know, so we'll just thinking of High Brazil again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah. You talked about like the supernatural. Did you have
like ghost stuff happened to you growing up?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Not so much ghosts, but I had some experiences where
I would be in danger and at the last minute,
like a being would show up and save me. And
at the time I thought they were angels, you know,
I thought, you know, okay, I mean it would There
was like more than one experience. It was like three
or four experiences where I was either stuck in a

(01:12:49):
snowstorm or I was drowning and some being would just
show out out of the blue and just pulled me
out of the water, or or was saved me from
the snowstorm. I mean, it was just bizarre experiences. So
I do think I was watched over, you know, like
I don't know if it was my star family or

(01:13:11):
angels or I mean, at the time I thought they
were angels. I mean because a lot of times these
beings did they looked humanoid, but they again had this
look of being beyond human. You know, they didn't look
like your typical humans, maybe better looking or some component
of them didn't seemed a little off. Maybe. Uh So

(01:13:35):
I did have those kinds of experiences, but not so
much ghosts. Really didn't tune into ghosts that much, not
like my husband. My husband's more into the ghosts and
stuff than I am. But uh but but I do
think maybe as a child I was tuned into that more.

(01:13:56):
But then you get a beaten out of you, you know,
going through you know, trying to fit in you know,
three D Earth. You know you'd get it. You know,
you get teased a lot or bullied by kids, and
it's like, oh, I don't want to be different, because
then I'm going to get bullied, you know, So you
learn to suppress a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
It's funny that you talk about that, because my experience
has happened to me as a kid, and they came
back to me as soon as I finished college. Interesting,
so I'm out of the sort of like brainwashing system,
and as soon as I'm oh yeah, first time, then
I was in a position for it to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I'm glad to hear it came back for you because
a lot of times it takes us years and years.
I mean I didn't have my experience until I was
like a month before I turned fifty, you know. I
mean it's just like, you know, like why did it
take so long? But I think the timing was perfect. Actually,
you know, I think if I would have awakened before,
I wouldn't have really not known what to do with,

(01:14:56):
you know, that experience. But I'm glad that it turned
back on. But I think you're right. I think a
lot of it is we go through heavy programming with
our educational system and with religion and you know, societal constraints.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
You talked about the Acostak records, So how do you
get into contact with it? Is it like a non
demand type of thing for you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Before I was kind of spontaneous, like before I knew
what I was connecting with. It was like I was
like when I was talking about the downloads of information,
I do think it was coming from the records or
maybe my own soul memories, but I didn't know where
they were coming from. H Since I've taken you know,
formal training on how to access to records, I do

(01:15:44):
follow a process, you know, So I used the Lenda
how method because it works for me. There's various different
methods people can use to access to records, but honestly,
I do it more as as a I guess a
process to make my clients feel comfortable. But honestly, I

(01:16:07):
can just tap into the records just like that. It's
it's not even like like I have to go through
the process. It's like I just said an attention, like hey,
I need some information, and then you know, I'm able
to tap in. And a lot of times it would
feel like a discernible click in my head, like I

(01:16:28):
would know I'm connected when I feel this kind of
frequency shift or like a click. That's the best way
I can describe it. And it's and it kind of
it almost feels like a vibration shift. And then it's like, oh,
I'm getting some answers, I'm seeing some things for me.
The experience is multi as a multi clear experience, you know.

(01:16:50):
So I do get a lot of visuals. I think
I'm very clairvoyant, but I also get clear audience messages.
I get a clear sentience. I get Claire. There's different Claire.
I can't remember all the names of them, but sometimes

(01:17:10):
I'll smell smells. Sometimes I'll even taste things, I mean,
and a lot of times I feel feelings. So if
I'm doing a reading for somebody, I will feel the
feelings that they felt during their experience, you know, if
I'm checking into one of their past lives, which sometimes
is really freaky, you know, like you're you're feeling the

(01:17:32):
fear or you're feeling whatever it is that you know,
or the love or whatever it is that they're feeling.
So that's why sometimes doing you know, Kashak readings can
be very exhausting because you're getting multiple streams of information
all at once and it which I think, you know,

(01:17:54):
really you get immersed into the records, but then you
also have to use your discernment in your I would say, uh,
into it intuition in order to interpret the information that's
coming through, you know. So so that was part of

(01:18:16):
I would. I would experience that every single time, you know,
whether I was doing a reading for myself or for
a family member or for a client. That's part of
the reason why I don't do a Kajak readings on
a regular basis anymore, because it got to be really,
really exhausting. For ten years, I did readings five days

(01:18:38):
a week, you know, like I did several readings a week.
I mean, like, you know, ten to twenty readings a week,
and uh, and it was was starting to feel like
a job, you know, like okay, you know, doing readings
for one person after another. And I just couldn't sustain
it anymore, you know. And I really do enjoy being

(01:18:59):
in the records. I enjoy, you know, the information I
received from the records, But when you're doing that many readings,
it could really wear you down, you know, energetically, you know.
So so last year in October, I had to make
a really hard decision not to do personal readings so

(01:19:20):
much anymore. I'll do it occasionally for certain people, but
not like, you know, like a regular schedule, just because
it can get very, very exhausting. And so I do
think there's a limit. And I don't know if you
know other practitioners feel this, like I don't know reiki

(01:19:42):
or people that do hypnotherapy, you know, or QHHT. I
do think there's a burn a point where you reach
a burnout. And the other reason too, why I stopped
was because my guides kept telling me that it was
time for me to take my message to the masses.
You know that it was no longer you know, just

(01:20:06):
adequate to do one on ones with folks. And I
do miss the one on ones to a certain extent
because I do really enjoy you know, helping people, you know,
guiding people through the records. But it was time to
become more of a public figure, and I thought that
for years. I didn't want to be a public figure.
I am an I NFJ and the Myers Briggs. I'm

(01:20:29):
an introvert. Okay, I'm not somebody that loves to be
out in public, you know, on the stage talking to people.
But I've gotten used to it, you know, so now
I do it because it's part of the mission. But
but I have to really kind of prep myself to
do that. It doesn't come naturally for me. But my
guides kept telling me, Okay, you're gonna be on the stage,

(01:20:51):
You're gonna be talking to thousands of people, and I'm
just like nope, nope, nope. And then finally it was
just like okay, like I know, I don't really when
my guys tell me something, Eventually I do do it
because I know they have my best interests at heart.
And that's part of my mission. But I I didn't
really want to go do the public figure thing. But

(01:21:15):
now I am doing that, and it's part of my
journey and it's part of my mission and if it
helps people, then you know, I'm all for it. But
I got a very clear message that I'm not supposed
to just work with people one on one. It's supposed
to be more like, you know, exposing this to you know,

(01:21:36):
to lots of lots of people. You know. So that's
the journey I'm on, and that's why I do these
conferences and events, and it's why I'm working on a book.
So you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens in
the future. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
That was a future question in mine. So yeah, yeah,
thanks for getting that out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Yeah yeah. It's almost like my guides are telling me,
give me there there answering your questions without you haven't
asked them, so, which I think is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
You talked about Lyra and the Lyrens and the Pladians.
Now I've heard that the Pladians might be an offshoot
of Lyra the Lyrens, and there was there really a
sort of galactic battle and they had to flee.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
So it happened to the So so let me go,
let me backtrack a little bit with the Lyrens or
the Lyrens or you know, how are you going to
pronounce that? I think both ways is fine, but uh,
what happened to the Lyrens is that they were the
original human races, you know. So there was two basic races,

(01:22:41):
which were the blue skin races and the white skin races.
And they lived in paradise planets, you know. So they
were just like, they weren't motivated to colonize anything because
they didn't need to go anywhere. But they got attacked
by the Draconians in Drake, you know. So the reason

(01:23:02):
why we have all these different star races right now
is because of that those wars, so they ended up
being called the Laryn Draconian Wars. And it was devastating.
I mean I saw these wars through downloads of information,
and I remember when I had my first spontaneous past
life regression where I saw these wars, I cried for

(01:23:25):
months because it was just so devastating. A lot of
I would say a lot of people died. I think
Lisa Royale Holt, who writes the Prism of Lyra, which
is a really great book if you guys want. It's
a little little, teeny book, but she puts those packs
a lot of information in that teeny little book. But

(01:23:48):
she talks about how when she connected with her channel,
her channel told her that fifty million Laryns lost their lives.
And I believe it because I you know, I saw
it in my own experiences. But so these are people
that went through a horrific traumatic event and lost their planets.

(01:24:10):
I mean, their planets got destroyed, you know, so a
lot of them, you know, that did survive, ended up
having to, you know, migrate to other star systems. And
so the Pleiatees was one of those star systems. And
I honestly think they picked the Pliatees because it was
five hundred light years away. You know, It's like, let's
get the heck out of Dodge and get as far

(01:24:32):
away from the Draconians as possible. So so they took
the long journey to the Pleiatees. And so the Pleaadians
were actually descendants of Learns refugees and maybe the indigenous
humans that were living in the Pleiadian planets. So a
lot of people think that the Pleiadians are all these

(01:24:53):
Nordic looking, beautiful, blonde, you know beings, and a lot
of them do have that appearance. But the Pleaadians actually
had a mix of of colors, you know, So I
don't think they were necessarily all blonde and blue eyed.
I think there was a lot of them that looked
very indigenous, a lot of them that had you know,

(01:25:16):
darker skin, you know. So so there was a lot
of diversity in the Plates, which I think sometimes you know,
the AI art doesn't really depict that so much, you know.
But but yeah, they were kind of a mix, I guess,
kind of a you know, the indigenous humans that were
living in the Plates and the Laryn refugees that were

(01:25:39):
trying to find refuge in these planets, you know, in
these star systems, you know. So so in a way,
the Pleiadians are descendants of the Laryns. I wouldn't say
that they were just all Laran. I think they you know,
they they mixed, and you know, they had different mixes,
you know, but but they were heavily influenced from the

(01:26:02):
Laren their Laren experiences. So I would say that's very
much correct, you know, And uh, as a soul, I
spent a lot of time in the Ple Eightes. I
mean that's why I, you know, I think I have
Plaadian guides is because even though I consider myself an

(01:26:23):
Arcturnian star seed, if you want to, you know, use
starcited terminology, but because that's my origination point. But I
do think as a soul, I spent a lot of
time and a lot of other systems. That's why I
have to know the history of them so well. And
I kind of feel like I take something from all

(01:26:43):
of them, you know, like I'm this kind of hybrid
soul that I I just feel so connected to all
of them, you know, in a sense. But I do
know I spent a lot of time in the Pli Eightes.
Have great love for the Ple Eightes. Actually it was
one of the few civilizations where they did a lot

(01:27:03):
of things, right, you know. They they had that balance
between technology and spirituality, which I wish we would see
here on earth, you know. So, but yeah, I hope
that answers your question.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Thank you well. To stay in that field of questions.
Barbara Marsieniac writes that she, you know, in one of
her books, I can't recall which one, but she talks
about the Earth of Living Library and that there was
a space battle like at the beginning of time for Earth,
and I had on a guest called Yesenia de Capua,

(01:27:39):
and she remembers coming down. She was part of the
star people that were that were fighting to protect Earth,
and she remembers coming down as a warrior, and she
actually died on the planet. So I'm not sure if
you have any information regarding that that time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
You're talking about the battles.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
The battles, I'm not sure, where's it again with the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, it was probably draconians. Yeah. So Earth is an
interesting little planet because and it's an advantage point. The
reason why so many extraterrestrials are so interested in it
is because it's in a very good vantage point in
our galaxy. And then it's one of the few planets

(01:28:23):
where you can you can bring in a lot of
different DNA and it just you know, I mean, it's
very sustainable for physical life. So so I think for
that reason, there was a lot of extraterrestrial beings interested
in colonizing Planet Earth. And so in the beginning, you know,

(01:28:45):
we saw a lot of colonization like I was mentioning about,
you know, your ancestry and you know the UK. You know,
there was a lot of colonies there. There was Well,
the Draconians were interested in Earth too, you know, so
they wanted to take it over, and so you know,
for a while they did take it over because that
was during the Dinosaur age, you know, so the dinosaur age,

(01:29:07):
so they they were inhabiting it for quite a while
because the dinosaurs were basically lower casts reptilians that were
created using Draco DNA, you know, so they were creating
like maybe dumber versions of themselves or or you know,
lower level versions of themselves, but in a massive scale,
you know, so that you know, so, and so they

(01:29:30):
were inhabiting you know pretty much strong had a stronghold
on the planet. But that wasn't the intent, you know,
to have like a bunch of massive reptilians taken over
the planet. So there was these wars that you know
that kept going on between the Pleiadeans and the Larns

(01:29:50):
and the Draconians and uh, you know, maybe the Galactic
Federation races, you know, trying to get Earth back, and
I don't know if they were all that successful because
I think they were successful for a while because you know,
after the fall of the dinosaurs, then you started seeing

(01:30:13):
these civilizations like Lemuria come you know forward, and then
Atlantis and then Egypt, you know. So so they were
successful for a while. But then I think the Draconians
and the Onnaanaki got a little more stealthy about how
they were going to take over, you know, so they

(01:30:34):
weren't going to directly attack them anymore. So they were
taking them over from the inside out. So they were
infiltrating the governments and you know, influencing people through brainwashing
and you know, and programming and things like that. So
so now I would say, you know, our planet is
definitely being controlled by these negative factions. But but they're

(01:30:58):
losing their stronghold once again, you know. So I think
there's too many of us waking up, and you know,
we're starting to realize, Okay, there's more to the story,
you than what we've been taught, you know, in school
or you know, through our religion or whatever. And so
we're gonna go through another battle, but it'll be more
of a spiritual battle, not so much you know, a

(01:31:21):
physical one like in the past. But yeah, it's interesting Yeah,
I've read those books too, and I really resonated with
a lot with what Barbara was sharing in her books.
I do think she was definitely tapped into something, you know,
maybe her past life memories. But I do know that
her books are very popular for a reason because a

(01:31:44):
lot of people. I think it just triggers people's memories,
you know, and there's something about them that I don't know.
They just they're activating in a sense. Very very thankful
to people like Barbara Martin Sniac and Barbara Hanklow and
you know, all these other folks that were around for decades,

(01:32:09):
you know, bringing forth this information when it wasn't even
really a thing, you know, So so thank you for
sharing that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
I guess they were they were the first like volunteers.
So do you have any information about the three waves
of Volunteers?

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Yeah, that was a book that made a big I
would say, made a big impact on me. And I'm
a big Dolores Canon fan. I kind of feel like
in a way like Dolores Canon was a very Arcternian soul,
and I feel like in a way she handed the
baton over to me and other people. But so I

(01:32:48):
feel like a lot of what I do is trying
to carry on the work that she started. But but
when I read that book, the three Waves of Volunteers
in New Earth, that kind of put the puzzle pieces
together for me. Okay, so why you know why? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Why is there so many of us that don't feel
like we come from here? You know? And so whenever
I would do readings for people, you know, I was
always looking. You know. Obviously one of the things we
do is with a contract reason, we asked people their
birth dates, and so would give me an indication of

(01:33:23):
what that person's mission was, you know. So why did
they choose to be born in nineteen forty six, you know?
Or why did they choose to be born in nineteen
ninety one? You know. So, so there's three waves of volunteers.
So I'm a first waiver. I'm kind of tell in
the first wave. So I'm I'm the original generation or

(01:33:46):
part of the original generation of star seats. And so
for the first waivers, it took us longer to wake
up because there was so much programming on the planet,
you know, especially in the fifties and sixties. I think
the seventies things started shifting a little bit. But but
then we got the Indigo children that were coming in,

(01:34:08):
which you know, Dolores called the second Waivers that were
being born in the seventies and eighties. You know. So
these folks were the system busters, you know, they were
busting the system. They were the ones that were asking questions,
they were defying authority, and so we saw this you know,
wave of uh you know, revolution occurring during those times.

(01:34:31):
And then I would say, the kids are coming in
in the nineties and the two thousands, those are the
third wave kids, and these are the folks that are
gonna be the system builders. So so we're seeing a
lot of andramed In star seeds coming in now, whereas
before and ramed In star seats were very rare, you know,

(01:34:53):
it was, and even Ourctarian star seeds are rare, you know.
So we saw more our tan star seeds in the
second wave, and now with the third wave, we're seeing
more a lot of Pleiadians still, but a lot of
and ramed and star seeds because these are the people
that have the technology, you know, they and Dramedins are

(01:35:15):
well known for being technological masters, you know, and so
we're going to have to come to some higher level
of technology in order to rebuild this planet. And and
so that's that's basically, uh, that's kind of a very
basic description of the three waves of volunteers. But each

(01:35:39):
of these uh, and I do believe that the reason
why we started coming in now is because the consciousness
had to be at a certain level. So after the
World War two was when we started seeing a big
influx of star seeds coming in, you know, so kind
of trinkled in it with the first wave, and then

(01:36:01):
we started seeing a lot come in with the second wave,
and even more coming in now with the third wave. Folks.
But we're we're on this all on this mission to
bring to Earth to a higher level of consciousness and
to the fifth dimension. Earth was always meant to be
a fifth dimensional reality. It was not never meant to

(01:36:23):
be mired in the three D, you know. So, but
it's been stuck here because of those negative factions you
know that I talked about. And so now you know,
we're all here trying to bring Earth to its true destiny,
which is to be part of the greater Galactic family.

(01:36:44):
But yeah, there are a lot of extraterrestrial beings that
are interested in this planet. It's why we had all
these visitations, why we still have visitations, you know. And
I think it's interesting that more and more of us
are starting to have our own et contact experiences and
the and how wonderful of you to share that through
your podcast. You know, that kind of kind of normalize

(01:37:07):
it a little bit, you know what I'm saying, you know,
not that it's so weird or that you're you know,
crazy person because you had an experience. I'm just trying
to say, that's the opposite, right, what's that Just trying
to lessen to fear. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Yeah, And maybe
that's a big that's part of your mission is to

(01:37:29):
bring awareness to it, that's yeah. But no, I'm a
big fan of Dolores Cannon. I wish I would have
met her in person. Never had the opportunity. She passed away,
I think in twenty and fifteen or not not too
long ago, but but she definitely left a legacy, and

(01:37:50):
it's one that you know, I hope to carry on to,
you know, whenever my contract here ends, you know. And
and for others that are also part of this journey.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Well, thankfully Julia took the Mantle and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Yeah she did. She's doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Yeah, we talked briefly about CE five. Now, would you
have like a specific protocol perhaps for those listening and
if they want to maybe get into contact with the
star people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Yeah, that's I'm not a CE five expert. I would
I would refer people to doctor Steven Greer for that.
I've never been to any of his his events, but
I have been to CE five events. I would say
a handful of them. And uh so the whole process

(01:38:42):
is basically to raise your vibration. So with extraterrestrial beings
you can't necessarily, you know, if they're not going to
go all the way down to our low dimension. I mean,
we got to meet them halfway somehow. So so so
I think a lot of what Steven Greer was trying

(01:39:03):
to do with his work with CE five was trying
to help people to raise their vibration to a certain
point where they can tune into that frequency where they
could see UFOs or even have interaction with extraterrestrial beings.
So a big part of his process, from what I

(01:39:24):
understand from the CE fives I've been involved with, is
having this group meditation, so everybody's in the circle and
they're all holding hands, and we're all just connecting with
each other and sending out a lot of love frequency,
you know, out through each other and also out to
the ethers, you know. So we're just sending out this

(01:39:46):
this love frequency. And he does have a process, and
I've seen the process done different ways, you know, but
the most important part is to raise frequency, you know,
so whatever it takes for you to do that. And
so at that point, you know, you're asking, you know,

(01:40:09):
permission to connect with these beings. You always want to
ask permission. And then you just sit and wait and
see what comes through. A lot of times you'll see
certain things in the sky. You know, you might see
flashes of light, or you might even see, you know,
something that might look like UFOs or I know, in

(01:40:31):
some cases this never happened to me, but in some cases,
some people might actually have beings that visit them, you know,
wherever they're at. It's best to do this when you're
at night when the moon's not out, you know, so
when maybe during a new moon night where the stars
are especially bright, so you can see as much as possible.

(01:40:54):
I think sometimes when people try to do it when
the moon's out, you miss you know, some things because
or there's a lot of light pollution. But you definitely
want to make sure that you're in an area that
is pretty dark and has very minimal light pollution as much.

(01:41:14):
So probably out of the city or you know, somewhere
away from you know, in a rural area would probably work.
Or out on the beach where you know, it's pretty dark.
I would say some of my most successful have been
out on the beach because you could really see the
night sky. I mean it's like see a lot of stars,
especially in areas where there's not like a lot of light,

(01:41:37):
you know. So so that's that's what I could say
about that. But but I'm not an expert on CE five.
So I would say if people want to know more
about it, they should uh connect with uh doctor Stephen
Greer actually took his uh his remote viewing class in Boulder.
That was a lot of fun. Yeah, he's he definitely,

(01:42:00):
he has definitely has a connection, and I think it's
I get a very Syrian energy from him, like he's
connected with Syrian beings or had lifetimes and serious but
but he's done some groundbreaking work too. I'm so glad
there's all these folks that are you know, they're going
out in the limb, you know, and you know, sharing
this information.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Both times that I can't called in the same craft
which flew over my house and the first time and
my dad's house the second time. Yeah, I did a
sort of hybridized version of doctor Greer's protocol. Yeah, and
which is funny. So that's why I tend to point
to doctor Greer or try to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, No. I think he did some groundbreaking
work too, you know, for for the time and uh,
you know, and he was featured on guy A TV
quite a bit, you know, and now you know, he's
has his own you know, movies and things. So I
think it's good and I and I think it's kind

(01:43:00):
of a group effort. I don't think it's like one
person is going to have all the answers. I think
it and I think that's very purposeful. I think, you know,
we all have a little piece of the answer, and
you know, we we all share it, you know. And
like I said, you know, not everybody resonates with what
I talk about, and that's fine, you know, but for
those that do, you know, I you know, I hope

(01:43:22):
whatever I share helps.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Well, well, let's call it a day, Debbie, It's it's
been fun. Do you have like it? Perhaps another story
you might want to share or a closing statement to
get out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
I don't know if I have a story. I think
I just want to share that. Uh, you know, for
those of you out there that always felt like you
were different or you know and understand it, you might
want to explore your connection with the star beings and
the star races, and I would invite you to take
a deeper dive into that and hopefully that helps you

(01:43:57):
on your Earth walk. So and that includes maybe you know,
having your own et contact experiences, you know, since this
is the topic of the show, I would say, you know,
just keep raising your vibration. And the easiest way to
raise your vibration, honestly is to be of service to others.

(01:44:20):
So so definitely work.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
You also offer services through your website.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Yeah, I do. I not doing personal readings at this time,
and at least not for the public. So if you're
interested in connecting with me and with the work that
I do, I do offer a yearly, once a year
Galacticacasak reading course as an eight week long course, and

(01:44:46):
you're welcome to sign up to be on the waiting
list for that. The next time we're going to be
offering it is in two thousand and five, so it'll
be kind of earlier in the year, and then we
offer peer periodic webinars and you can also see me
in person at the various events that I'll be involved with,

(01:45:08):
either online or in person. But I am going to
be part of the Laryn Conference speaking of Laryns. That's
through Portal to Ascension, so check out their website. I'm
also doing the Awakening of Humanity through Portal of Ascension
that's also in October. I will be in Sedona in

(01:45:29):
October for the Cosmic Awakening conference. Another after that, I'm
flying to Germany and I'm doing the All Shift Happily
Now conference in Germany with Tim Tactics and his crew.
And I'm also going to be part of the Galactic
Origins cruise in December with Portal two Ascensions. So lots

(01:45:54):
of events to be involved with, so if you're interested
in all that, just check out my website subscribe. I'm
also I'm on YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook, so you can
follow me there as well. Thank you lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
You're busy. I'm happy to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Well, Debbie, thank you so much for coming on. It's
been fun. You're a lovely person.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. No, I feel
I don't know if we've had past lives together, but
I definitely feel connection with you. So I hope that
our work continues on some levels. So so thank you
for having me on here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
All right, take care everybody goes watching.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Hope you enjoyed it. I'm your host, mister Great. My
interviews coming up, and I'll see you guys next time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Hello everyone, This is mister Gray and thanks for watching
today's episode. If you are an abductee, contact tee, or
experiencer and you believe that your story could help others,
please feel free to contact me through my YouTube channel email.
When it comes to experiencers, the t phenomena, and the future,
remember truth will out

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