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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of experience
or interviews. And today we've got another missing soul coming
to us from the US. We have Nathaniel Tafoia on
board today. Nathaniel was born in nineteen eighty and lived
in California. He now resides in the state of Utah.
His ety contact experiences started since the inception of conception
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into this world we call Earth or Terra. His contact
experience started at the young age of two years old,
where two grays materialized through his bedroom wall to check
on him to see if he was adjusting to the
Earth conditions. These experiences have followed him throughout his life
and continues on as directed through his extraterrestrial extra dimensional
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family contacts. Through his countless experiences, he has come into
contact with many different entities such as demanted type beings,
tall white beings, grays, and other humanoid species. These contacts
have brought forth many different types of experiences, ranging from
physical encounters with the entities aboard their crafts in his home,
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dream state, contact experiences, telepathic downloads and channeled information through them.
Many astonishing teachings were learned, and these ongoing experiences have
also brought forth Meley many challenges as well. His purpose
is to bring forth a greater sense of reality and
insights into humanity and knowledge which has been withheld from us,
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as well as to help others that may need support
throughout these encounters and experiences. So, Nathaniel Sam, thank you
so much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Thank you so much for the opportunity. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Before we get into your story, because I know your
contact started at a very young age, but are you
aware if you have any pre birth memories?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, not to my recollection. But however, as my
spirit and my soul, I feel like this is just
one part of a major experience that I've been going
through for a very long time. As things progress in
my life, as I get older and stuff certain memories
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and stuff I become aware of that maybe I was
not aware of. But as far as like preconception birth,
I do know that I did pick my parents to
be my parents in this physical form here on earth.
I know that for a fact. That's a resid feeling
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that I do have with inside me. But as far
as anything before then, I don't have any like a
memory or anything like that that I can visualize that
happened prior to So.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Let's get into your childhood contacts. Could you talk about
where he grew up and what exactly happened.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, I was born in January of nineteen eighty. I
was born in Torrance, California, and my parents are originally
from the state of Utah. My dad had got a
job opportunity with Xerox Company and he moved to California
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and that's where I was born. And I resided in
Torrance for probably to about the age of maybe three
years old, and then we moved to Orange County, California.
Growing up there was it was a cool time for
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me because I basically after I had gone through pre K,
which is preschool, we had moved to a part in
Rancho Center, Margarita. But basically where the story starts, where
I had my first contact experience was in our home
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in Towarrns, California. I used to so if we want
to start from there, Basically one of the recalling, most
recalling visualization memories that I had in a physical contact
experience was in the house in Towards, California. And what
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took place there is I actually had my mother's mom
visiting from Utah to our house location. She would come
to California to come visit us every now and then.
And I remember my mother and my grandma were hanging
out in the kitchen getting things prepared for dinner, and
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it was probably it's really hard to give you a time,
because we all know at the age of two years old,
we don't have really a concept of time or anything
like that. But it was later in the afternoon, and
so what ended up happening is I was in my
bedroom and I was playing with my toys. And I
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do have what's called the photographic memory. I have really
severe dyslexia, and the way my brain works and I
learn is to photographic memories and stuff like that. It
really helps me be able to obtain information. And I'm
always really hyper aware of my surroundings. But what took
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place was I was in my bedroom and I was
playing with some toys and all this u and I
had two gray extra trestuals or what I would refer
to as more of a gray in appearance looking extraterrestrial
that came in through my walls in my room. The
best way that I could describe it so someone could
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visualize what I saw was if you were to ever
be driving down the road on a really hot day
and you can see the heat waves coming off the ground.
That's kind of what took place with the walls in
my room is I started to get that wave formation
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on the wall. As they started to manifest in a
physical form, it kind of just had this wave function,
and then they started to come through the wall, and
they weren't fully they It was almost how could I
describe it, as they were physically there, but in a
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sense of like a holographic type projection. They were still
within the confines of that waveform around them, but they
had came through, and I just it was really weird.
I can't really emphasize the concept of time being that young,
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because we don't really get an understanding until we get
older of what time was. But it was almost like
everything just kind of there was no outside noise that
I can remember. I could not hear any form of
conversations going on in the kitchen. And we grew up
in quite of a small home in Torrents, California. It
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was a good starting point for my family, and so
when they came through, I had a telepathic communication and
there was no auditory noise or conversations going on. Its
pure telepathy, and they were coming in to check on
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me and see how I was doing. Again, being that young,
I wasn't afraid because I didn't know any differently. I
thought this was maybe a normal thing that took place
amongst people. And I never shared this until way later
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on in my life with my mother and my father,
But they were checking on me to see how I
was doing, and during that time they were let me
know that they were going to be with me for
my whole life here on earth, and that they would
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be visiting me more often as I became older, and
that they immediately when that happened, I felt this connection
to them that I had known them for a very
very very.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Long time, more natural thing my own mother and father
at times where.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I felt like they were family. So maybe I've talked
to a few people that I've had the opportunity to
do interviews with in the past that one of my friends,
Johnny Webb, was part of doctor J RadioLIVE. He asked
me if I felt as if I was a hybrid child,
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and it was a really odd thing to say to
me because I've never had someone say that before. I
don't know, but what I do know is that they
felt like family, and I knew they were going to
be checking on me because that's what they emphasized is
great and during that time they I was so excited.
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I went to the kitchen area. I asked them first
of all, back telepathically, is I had someone special here visiting?
And would it be okay if I could introduce my
grandmother to them. They told me this specific telepathic message,
which was a child's minding consciousness is a lot greater
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than it is as an adult, so they might not
see what you see now. It didn't really make sense
when I was young that again, that message was relayed
to me way later on as I became an adult.
And the reason why they said this message is if
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we can all look back at our childhood history and
where we were. We didn't develop blinders until we got older.
We were open to this amazing experience of being in
a physical form. As a child, We didn't develop our
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own limitations. We had the world at our hands as
we still do now, but we didn't have these preconceptions
of what was okay to believe or not to believe.
We all incarnated in this raw physical form to just
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be open to receive anything that was available to us.
And part of consciousness in itself is what we must
understand is consciousness is not limited to time, space, shape
or form or thought. Thought is only directed by us
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in our perspective lens that we get to experience. So
as soon as we start inheriting certain beliefs and stuff
like that, then what happens is we start molding that
foundation in our physical reality, in our emotional responses and
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everything like that. So that message was really profound. Later on,
so I said, okay, well let me go grab Sorry
to go back, but so I said, okay, well let
me go grab my grandmother. Well I went into the
kitchen and it was almost as if tied there was
a time distortion because they were at the stove, but
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it was almost like they were like paused for a second,
like there was no motion between them, there was no conversation.
And I come in there and I tapped my grandmother
on the shoulder and I said, Grandma, I want to
introduce you to some friends of mine. And she looks
at me, and she looks at me where them said
come on, they're in my room. I need to show you.
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So I grabbed her hand, I walked her into the
room and I said, do you see them right over
here there? Right here where the wall is, just on
the My crib was on the right side, and I said,
I'd like to introduce you to them. She looks at
me and she goes, well, where are they at? I said,
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they're right here, and I can see them. Well, obviously
she can see them, and they she had been down
and looked at me and smiled and she's like, you're
a clever little boy. And she had walked out the room,
and I watched her walk out the room, and the
next thing I know is they were no longer there.
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So it's interesting looking at it now, as I've had
a chance to really digest a lot of things that
have taken place in my life with the extraterrestrial I'd
really like to call them more of a interdimensional or
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transdimensional entity, because yes, they are extraterrestrials, but my deep
downfilling inside is they're just not. I think it's misunderstood
that we hear them that they're just from another star system.
We have to look at dimensional layers. There's a lot
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of dimensional layers just within this Earth plane itself, and
so that they can come from either a past or
a future time here on Earth, and that they're also
able to travel to different star systems within those time frames,
they could be in a totally different amend aspect, and
that's how I really have come to understand that. But
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that's where that first took place, with the first physical
experience or encounter that I had during that time. It
was kind of weird because as I started to develop
after that first conversation, probably within the next year, I
don't remember having any type of interactions or anything like that.
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But what I did remember, at about the age of
three years old, I had this really complex thought process.
During that time, I started to question if my parents
were my true parents. And so I don't know many
young children three years old, not even my own children,
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but thing like that. Really it was a really interesting
time where yes, I could see the physical resemblance of
myself within my father and within my mother, and I
knew that they were my parents, but I questioned if
they were my real parents, and so it was something
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that I was thinking about a lot as a child
during that three year old time, probably for a good
I don't know, probably several weeks to a month, I
would think as far as how I could perceive time
now from back when.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It was really something that really was concerning to me,
and I didn't I was trying to understand, and it's
kind of a quite big thought process going on for
such a young individual at the time. And so during
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that time, my parents decided to move to a place
called Tribuco Canyon, which is Rose Canyon, California, and this
is back behind the Saddleback Mountain range. So I attended
preschool in Torrance for a while, and my dad's career
at the time was going well, and I had my
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brother and two sisters living with me at the time,
and I am the only child to my mother. My
brother and two sisters have a different mother from my
dad's prior marriage, and so I am the only child
to my mom. And a funny story behind that, and
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it's something that I had talked to you about, was
that my mother was never supposed to be able to
give birth to any children based on her anatomy. She
had a really difficult time having children and she had
tried and tried and was never able to conceive a
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child and myself. But I remember as a child, and
she still tells me to this day and I'm almost
forty five now, is that she remembers being able to
see her stomach and look inside her stomach and see
me in her room, and she knew exactly what I
was going to look like before I was born. And
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I find it funny and come to realize the more
I've talked to my mother, she well, I think it's different.
I do have two amazing Well, I have four amazing parents.
One is now deceased, but both my father and mother
are have this really unique spirit about them. As my mother,
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as a young child, she was able to astro travel
all the time. She said she could always leave her
body anytime and just go wherever she would like to.
And she had talked to her mom about this, and
her mom actually took her to a specialist because she
said that she shouldn't be talking like this out loud
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because people would think she wasn't normal and so but
that something special to her. She has explained that she's
had some experiences as well. My father is very intuitive
and he has also had an experience which I didn't
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know until later on in life. We'll discuss that as
time goes on in my time frame as far as
what has taken place in my life. But so what
happened was we moved to Rose Canyon, California, and this
is where I attended kindergarten Tribuco Elementary and from that
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point on forward is when things kind of started to progress.
So there was from the time of two where it
first started, and then the three with the contemplation. By
about the age of four and five was when things
started to happen again for me. During my time in kindergarten,
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I was having these really profound dreams and I still
do to this day. One of my favorite all time
childhood movies and toys that I owned was T the Extraterrestrial,
the movie by Steven Spielberg. My mother had purchased a
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et doll that was made of leather, and inside that
doll it had sand in there, and so I would
carry that with me everywhere I went. I would sleep
with it. It would break open when I would sleep
within bed, so I'd have sand all in my bed,
and my mom would so put sandback in and so
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back up so I could have it. It was my
favorite thing. Then I started to have the physical experiences,
and I wanted nothing to do with that doll anymore.
I did not want anything to do with it. Can
I say that my experiences with extraterrestrials were all fun
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and joy. They were very difficult, very very difficult, because
it started to become scared. If you can only imagine
what it would be like to be surrounded in your
bedroom with three to five gray extraterrestrial beings surrounding your
bed late at night, it's not the most comfortable experience
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that you could imagine. So this stuff was taking place
when I was in kindergarten and moving off through out
my life, and so my mom's like, wow, why don't
you like having your et doll anymore? I'm like, I
just don't want it around me anymore. And I didn't
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have any reference or anything like that. In the eighties,
we didn't like we used rabbit ears for our TV.
There was limited programming. There was nothing really to watch.
I think there might have been unsolved mysteries, but I
was watching cartoons, I was playing with my toys. I
didn't have any reference to what I was experiencing. There
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was no things that I could see that would create
this imaginary figure that I might have been seeing at night.
This was real physical contact that was taking place, and
so how my events would take places. I would pretty
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much most the events would always take place at nighttime.
I would have daytime events, but they weren't with physical entities.
They were with craft in the sky, maybe a metallic
cigar shape object in the sky or a saucer type
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craft or a lot of people may be aware of
what are called the black triangles, but I would definitely
see those as a child, and a lot of it
was dream stay contact during the first part, and then
it became more physical as I started to get older.
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But at the age of five, I would always be
woking up be alerted in my sleep, like I would
hear this telepathic communications say it's time to wake up,
it's time to go. And as soon as I would
open up my eyes when I would hear that message,
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I would have three to five extra tristal entities, mainly
the grays surrounding me in my bedroom, and they would
come really close to my face and look at me
in my eyes and I would freeze up and I
would get panicked. Even as a child, I just would
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freeze up, and the next thing I know is I
would block out, And so I don't know what would
take place during that point in time. Once I blacked out,
I didn't know how I got from my bedroom to
the craft. And I've been in the craft several times.
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What I can tell you about being in the craft,
it's quite amazing if you were to ever be able
to experience, and maybe some of your audience members and
other interviewers can relate to this. But what you see
with the physical eye, as far as the shape of
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the craft, is completely different from the interior of the craft.
So the craft could be fifty feet in length, maybe more,
maybe less. But once you get inside the it's so big.
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I can't even describe, like you don't get a reference
of space. I don't know if it's a distortion that
the craft makes or whatnot. I can't explain it. But
the craft is huge inside and it's very sterile looking
for the most part. And so I would be brought
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onto the craft to be learning things as a young child.
So well, for me, I was guided by these gray
extraterrestrial entities, and I referred to those gray extraterrestrial entities
as almost like a worker bee. They weren't my main
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point of They were initiated in the contact experience by
taking me aboard the craft doing certain tasks that the
main contact source on the craft would give me. A
lot of the interactions were with tall gray or tall
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whites individuals, and it's hard to kind of identify what
they look like. They are very tall in stature, they
almost have a translucent type appearance sort of and their
hair is long, stringy and almost clear, really blue eyes,
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some pink, and I would always have a direct contact
source with them, either male or female or both, and
the grays would be there to help assist in whatever
they had for me, if it was taking me into
a different part of the craft to learn something, or
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later on in my adolescent years, into diving more into
my physical anatomy, which were all kind of maybe familiar
with with some abduction experiences, which I really don't like
to use the word abduction. I find it kind of abrasive.
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But when I was young, they would take me into
different parts of the craft and it was almost like
a school. They would put me in front of what
I would refer to as some type of holographic type
scream and I would be shown symbols. These symbols were
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a form of language. But within that symbol, it wasn't
just a word. It was a full, how can I say,
a whole broad spectrum of information within the symbol. It
taught me about the creation of the human species on earth.
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It talked to me about it showed me things about
different events that would that could possibly take an effect
with natural disasters, wars and stuff like that. So a
lot of different information. A lot of it was I've
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always been really intuitive, I've been really empathic, feeling people energies,
and so they help me enhance these already natural abilities
that I kind of have. But it was a broader
spectrum as far as how to be able to be
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aware of open telepathic communication. And I think a lot
of people don't have a clear understanding of, well, how
does telepathy work or what is it? Each and every
human being is telepathic in nature. The thing about it
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is we're in a system where, especially in our school
systems and stuff like that, that we do not look
at some of the innate gifts that were all brought
into this world. So each and every one of us
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has the ability to have telepathic communication and more empathy
as far as feeling, energetic energies and stuff like that.
I'm no less special than anybody else. However, I think
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other individuals may have a easier time accessing these things
with practice. And so how telepathy works and how they
taught me and explained to me as it's the most
transparent way of communication because it's through feeling. Sometimes telepathy
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could be in what we have come to know and
what I've come to know. And I just heard of
the term downloads, like I never thought of it as
like download or these we like to categorize certain labels
and stuff like that, but I'd always get information sent
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to me, And so telepathic communication could be in a
form of download. It could be automatic writing skills. It
could be a form of just confirmation, almost like intuition,
where you have that filling or instinct. A lot of
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communication is like if you've ever tried to say your
name without using any tone, any voice, just close your
mouth and you say your name. You can hear that inside,
and so communic telepathic communication can occur that way as well.
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It could be something that you feel and then as
the filling comes out, then you can understand what that
feeling is within a verbalization context that you could perceive.
So there's many forms of telepathic communications. Also, a lot
of the teachings were about my ability to perceive energies,
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and one of my gifts, which is really special to me,
is within the first five minutes of knowing someone, I
can know their true character as a person, who they are.
It sucks, but yes, it's good in a lot of ways.
It's really helped me to be aware of someone's innate nature.
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Some are more service to others than service to itself.
I can get a good understanding as far as what
they're wanting. I can definitely the lie detector thing really
is really easy to see. But yes, I'm very deservement.
I'm always aware of people's true intentions. I can fill
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the energy from them immediately, especially going into places that
I've worked at, like I've had almost a precognition of
knowing something has taken place. But at the same instance,
it does affect me, and it does drain my battery
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sometimes too. Of being really sensitive to energy, so I
do get drained, especially with negative energies or surroundings. It
really does affect me. But they had helped me be
able to understand these already occurring gifts within myself, but
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to a greater degree of understanding. They also did talk
to me about basically their role here on this planet,
especially the mantids and so the manted entities. I almost
refer to him as what I would refer to as
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like an overseer, very intelligent. They have a greater the
great all of them are super way beyond human intelligence
and understanding. But the most important thing they ever always
have expressed to me was the importance of feeling. Feeling
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is everything, because once we feel, then we can use
that feeling into our physical expressions. And to be aware
of our intentions and the way we choose to communicate,
we have to be very aware of the things that
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we we think, we feel and how we choose to respond.
Because one important message was everything has a ripple effect
and bleed through effect. And what that means is if
we have a certain intention involved, we are an idea.
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And my definition of the idea of what an idea
is an intention directed and energetic action idea. And so basically,
when we have a certain intention and we carry that through,
what happens is there's a ripple effect and bleed through.
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So not only does it affect us here in our
physical form, but it's also felt dimensionally in other dimensions.
So everything that we do experience, and our emotions and
feelings and how we direct things, it's also being felt
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in other areas. And they can pick these things up
as well, which is really important to understand. And I
don't know if it's ever been emphasized before, but I
feel that it is necessary to bring up during this time.
And so these things were all being taught to me
at such a young age. When we had moved from
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Rancho cent Margarita, my parents decided to build a really big,
elaborate home. I used to always get upset with my
dad because he was a workaholic and the materialistic things
were so important to him, And I said, you know,
you need to spend more time with your family because
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he would always be traveling all the time. He was
so devoted into making money, having this materialistic thing happening
around him. I know that's not who he is now,
and I think there's a more appreciation towards that, especially
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me being a father of two children. I understand that
we're all in this grind of trying to provide for
our families. There's certain materialistic things that we're attracted to,
and we want to be able to have that temporary
experience of having a certain item or something like that.
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But I've come to understand though as I've gotten older,
is material possessions are just temporary experiences that we pay
for to experience. But in the end, when we depart
from here, those material objects always stay here. They may
get inherent by children, grandchildren or whatnot, and they may
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not see the value of what you saw within that item.
So I've come to appreciate more of just what I
have is my experiences, what I can do with my experiences,
and how I can shape and mold them to be
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of service to others, because when I give more, I
also receive more from the other individual. That is an
important thing that they have taught me within the child,
my childhood and throughout my life. But my parents built
this big, really big labor at home, and so it
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was kind of an uncomfortable environment because it was like
as a child, I got it, I have to be careful.
I don't want ruin the furniture. I can't touch things
I thought, I mean it was a really extravagant home.
It was fun. But where my parents decided to build
the home was back behind the saddle Back Mountain Range,
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and during that time there's not a lot of development
out there still, and so we had this big, huge
mountain range that's back behind the Cleveland National Force. I
had myself, my friend Tom Parsons, who's now a X
Game Motocross best whip rider, and I had a couple
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other friends that we always grew up riding motorcycles and stuff,
which I was very fortunate to have as a kid,
and so that was our thing. We just had a
bunch of mountains and trails and we would have to
drive up into the valley to go to school, so
it was very from the normal city area. During that time,
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I had my two sisters living with me, and my
brother had moved out of the house because he lived
with us in Torrents, California, and decided to go back
to Utah to be with his mother and be with
a girl. But during that time, that's when things really
started to change in my life, where physical contact experiences
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were happening really regularly, quite often, sometimes several times within
a week consistently for several weeks. Sometimes there would be
a pause and delay, and that was starting about from
let's see, kindergarten was about five, so about six and
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seven years old in fact of in nineteen eighty seven.
I remember my mom was in the house downstairs and
I had walked down the stairs and she was sitting
on the couch reading a book, and in her hand
was the book Communion by Whitley Streever. And I walked
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down the stairs and I got really upset with her.
I said, Mom, I don't want that book in this house.
She goes, what is the matter with you? I said,
I do not like what's on the cover. She goes,
what are you talking about? I said, what's on your book?
I want it out of the house now. And she
got She's like, you're being so angry. What are I said,
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I don't want in the house. Get rid of it.
She's like, all right, I'll get rid of it. Well,
she would just hide it with amongst her other books,
and I would find it and I said, you told
me you would get rid of this book. And so
she had sat me down on the couch and I
was seven, and she's like, why are you so upset
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with the book. What does this Why does this book
make you so upset? I said, it's what's on the cover,
and she goes, well, why, She's like, it's just a
it's just a figure, and I said no, because they
keep coming at night and coming into my room visiting me.
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And this is the first time I ever explained anything
to my parents. I didn't ever really explain anything. I
didn't know how to put things into words in it.
Even at that time, at seven, it was still really
difficult for me to explain what was taking place. So
she had asked me, She's like, well, why do they
keep taking me? And I said, I don't know, but
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they keep visiting me at night because I had memory
blocks of what was taking place a lot of the time.
One thing that I've known during these physical contents experiences,
it's very difficult because interacting with other entities, their vibration
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or energetic vibration is not even matched to ours. So
for my personal experience, and I can only tell from
my experiences, is that it was like experiencing every emotion
and feeling you could experience all at one moment when
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you're in their physical presence. It's really overwhelming. You get
this huge anxiety and almost flight or fight response filling
and you're excited, you're happy, but you're terrified. And I
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experienced that a lot of times, and so it's really difficult.
And even in fact, to this very day, I catch
myself putting my covers of my own comforter and I'm
a almost forty five year old man covering my face
at night because so many visitations would occur where I'd
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be surrounded at nighttime in my bedroom and I would
have entities surrounding me getting me ready to go aboard
the craft, or even sometimes having events happening in my room,
and so it's very unsettling. It's very hard to deal with.
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And so that's the truth of the nature is it's
very difficult. It's very challenging. Is my life threatened by it? No,
not at all. Have I ever been harmed in any
way by them? Not at all. But to actually go
through the physical experience of being with entities, I get
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goose bumps, I get anxiety, I get nervous, and especially
being sensitive to energies, I know when things are going
to happen, I can fill them before they start to occur.
I can feel the difference and the energy in the
room and when things happen, and so naturally being sensitive
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to these things and energy is It's very challenging for myself,
but it's always had a positive outcome towards it, even
though it's very challenging and difficult to endure during the time.
So she asked me why they would come and visit.
I just said, they keep coming to visit me. Well,
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when I come to understand and know, from the time
I was seven all the way until I was fifteen,
my body was changing. My body was developing more into
the adolescent times. That's when I'd be taken from my room.
I would notice certain marks on my skin, almost like
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blood vessels popping on my arms. I would notice little
marks by my wrist area that would be there for
a few days and then they would go away. I
noticed that when I got into my adolescent timeframe that
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I was having semen taken from my body, which is
it's hard to talk about because this is where people
think that they're doing harm and doing this one thing
that Grant Cameron I had the opportunity of talking to
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him about and hearing from which I never knew, and
it took me a long time to realize my blood type.
I have a negative blood type, and apparently if you
have a negative blood type, they it tends to be
more prevalent in experiencers and people that have had abduction
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experiences that they see more people with negative blood types
having experiences with entities and stuff like that. That being,
maybe there is a and it's not a common any
type a person that has a negative blood type. It's
a rare blood type for the human species. Again, I
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also have really bad dyslexia. That is another thing. If
someone has some form of learning disability, it tends to
they are more sensitive and more open to contact experiences
because they perceive reality somewhat differently than someone that may
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not have dyslexia or ADHD or add or and the
list goes on. So our attention and the way we
perceive things are altered in a certain state that someone
that may not have that be able to experience. And
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so it was really hard when I was getting my
anatomy checked out and stuff like that. Was it evasive? Yeah,
kind of, it was a little bit invasive, But again
I can't recall every pinpoint exact event that would take place,
and I think they do this where they put blocks
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during this experience because there is so much of what
we as human beings are able to experience energetically with
the other entity. It'd almost be like an overdriver, an
overload for our physical body to handle those situations. So
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maybe it's a form of like anesthesia in a sense
where they will only allow you to undergo so much
and retain so much information during that time there is
one contact experience. So we'll go back to the seven.
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Sorry I'm kind of jumping, but at the age of seven,
when I had talked to my mom a few days later,
she had bought me a book. It's called The Boy
from the UFO, and it was it was really weird
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to be able to receive that book from my mom.
When when I look at it now, I'm like, why
I would never get my child a book like that.
Maybe I would if if they were talking to me
about their if they've had experiences, which I've asked my children.
They they want to see them and they want to
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experience them, but I don't think they really have yet,
and maybe they will, maybe they won't, and maybe it
will be with their children or their children's children. I
don't know, but so I received that book and I
started to read it. And reading for myself is very
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challenging with having dyslexia. I see things very differently, so
the words get jumbled up by skip skip the lines.
I sometimes read things backwards and everything and so. But
there was a part in the book that explained that
this boy would always get this tingling sensation and goosebumps
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running through his body every time that this UFO would
come in to check on him, and he would have
these experiences. And as soon as I read that, I
started to fill what the author was explaining in the
story as if it was always happening when with my experiences,
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because I would feel the same way. I just get
this electric shock almost like this as if like your
hands and legs fall asleep, but it's your whole body,
and I would just get completely overwhelmed. And so I
started to read that book a little bit, but it
was really challenging for me. And during that time, my
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parents saw me struggling in school so much because of
my dyslexia. I was having a early hard time. I
was being taken to learning sinners. I had a doctor
tried to gain a understanding of my dyslexia where they
were even prescribed me by vocals to try to help
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me out, and they did this whole visual spectrum thing
to see my chart, how I would how I my
eyes would work, and everything like that. And so it
was a really weird stage in my life. Like I
always felt really like I had a special purpose and
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I was here and I was meant to do something
very special. But also at the same token, I always
felt different. I always felt like I didn't fit in. However,
I always would attract people to me, like people even
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to this day, I have people that always are attracted
to me. They always want to share something personal about
what's going on with them, and like deep personal things
that they would not normally share with maybe family members
or friends. Like there's a lot of people that gravitate
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towards my way in some way, shape or form, And
so I feel like there's a greater purpose behind while
I'm here in this temporary human experience. So maybe this
is a bigger plot to my story and just a
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bigger plot into helping others. And so during those adolescent timeframes,
the physical experience became way more physical. In the adolescent
areas where they were visiting me, semen wasken from me.
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In fact, I'm kind of embarrassed to say this, but
it was almost like I was having intercourse with another
entity of some sort female. Yeah, yeah, it's very difficult
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and I might as well lay it out. So but yeah,
that took place. And in fact, when I was about
fifteen years old is when I met my first girlfriend.
And this is before I had my driver's license or
anything like that. And so we would visit each other.
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Her parents would bring her over to my house, or
we would meet up at the mall or go to
the beach, or a lot of the times we would
just talk on the phone for a long time. And
I think I had sent you an illustration in a
while ago about three extra trastual entities coming through the
door area of my room and if he left behind
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the door, there's a me hiding behind the door. And
so let me explain that encounter. And so when I
drew that drawing, I've never drawn any drawings of my
experiences or anything like that. Is very I was given
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an opportunity to do an interview on the Doctor J
Radio Live show, which he's not really consistent anymore. But
so he asked me if I could do some drawings
and stuff like that, and so I illustrated that drawing
of that experience, and it was really hard for me.
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But one night her and I were talking on the
phone really late. I don't know what year the song
black Hole Sun by Some Garden came out, but that
was about the time frame one where I was listening
to that song quite a bit in that generation of music.
And so we were talking late one night. And where
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my parents built this house, we had it on a
two and a half acre lot, and so my parents
would have horses on their pasture and stables in a
corral where they could roam around in a pasture. And
my friend's house he actually moved to Florida, but he
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used to have horses, and we all used to ride
our motorcycles and we used to play hide and go
seek on our motorcycles and just build jumps and go
around the trails and stuff like that. But I was
talking to her, it was about a's say, twelve o'clock
at night. Midnight. We would talk for hours on end
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on the phone, and sometimes we'd fall asleep while being
on the phone, just because we'd be talking for hours,
and I remember it was really late in the evening,
and I said, can you hold on real quick. I
think I hear my friends coming up on their motorcycles
to come up to my house. And she didn't respond
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back to me over the phone. It was almost as
if she had fell asleep. But I thought I had
heard motorcycles coming up, so I said, hold on real quick,
I'll be right back. She didn't respond back to me.
But what ended up happening is I sent the phone
down on the bed, I got off the bed, and
I started walking to my front door. And I always
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kept my door closed because this is my teenage years.
This is where I was starting to get into a
little bit of trouble doing bad things with some of
my friends, being a teenager, But so I thought they
were coming up to visit me, and I thought I
could hear the motorcycles coming up behind the hill to
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come up to my house area. So I got up
off the bed, sat the phone down, and started walking
towards the door. Well, the noise of the motorcycles weren't increasing,
and as I started getting closer to the door, I
could hear this very low pitch hum, and it was
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really deep inside the air, almost so faint you could
barely hear it. But motorcycles didn't get any louder. I
went to grab the handle to my door, and my
door handle is not a round handle. It had like
a hook on that you would grab and press down on. Well,
I go to put my hand on the handle, and
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the handle starts moving on its own. And as that happens,
the way my room was built up where my claw
as it was, I had this little like kind of
quarter shaped moon like round it out part where when
I was younger, when my friends would come over the
house we'd play hide and go seek, I could hide
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behind my door and open it all the way and
I could fit in where my door would open all
the way, so it would look like it was all
the way open touching the wall, but I could fit
my body through there well. As the door started to
open up, I saw these four long fingers start grabbing
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the door and pulling it open. My automatic reaction. As
soon as that I saw the door crack open, and
I saw the fingers grab as I could right there
as the door opened up, and I could see the
door opening up further, and I could see these three
entities walking in through my room now granite. Most of
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all my contact experiences taking place while I was asleep,
this didn't happen that way, and so I think maybe
they were trying to get my attention to come out
and have me in their presence aboard the craft by
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getting me out and doing things differently this time where
this was terrifying for me because as I see the
door opening up, I freeze up and I lock and
I can't move. I can't I'm like paralyzed, and I'm
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just sitting like this upright in the between the door,
and they start to come in my room and I
try to scream as loud as I can, like really
loud scream. And my parents were divorced. I was just
my father and I am this big, big house and
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I had screamed up at the top of my lungs,
but no sound came out of my voice whatsoever. And
the one entity put both of his hands on my
shoulders right here, and I had tried to push to resist,
I couldn't do anything, and I felt them coming closer
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to me, like to embrace me. And the weird thing
about it is where my back was against the wall.
I could no longer fill any solid object behind my back,
almost as if the wall had disappeared or opened up.
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And so I remember trying to scream and I couldn't move,
and they got closer. And then the next thing I
remember is I am sitting upright in my bed. I
am sweating profusely, and I have pins and needles throughout
my whole body, like my body was asleep. My phone
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is I looked from my phone. My phone is now
down on the bed, hung up, and three hours had
passed in time, which only I remember everything happening from
the point in time from when I got up to
my off my bed to walk to the door in
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the hands, grabbing the door and opening up the door
as the three came in, and trying to scream and
being held and not being able to move, to waking
up sitting upright in my bed, sweating profusely, with pins
and needles everywhere. It seemed like three seconds, three to
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five seconds, but there was a three hour gap in time,
And so as soon as that happened, where I had
regained consciousness and sitting up right in my bed, it
was weird because if you're asleep you usually open up
your eyes and then you get up, but I was
already sitting upright in my bed, which and I remember
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walking there, and so as soon as that happened, I
was freaked out. I was like really in shocked and
my body was like fully charged. And maybe that's because
I went through this this How can I describe it
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not being like coleported, but like I went through a
phasing phase or a shift in dimension where I was
in my room and they took me on craft. It
was really different because I was not being like necessarily
like lad to walk towards the craft or exiting for
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my house like I just I think there was they
had transported me into a different into their ship from
my room because they don't need to come. Just as
I experienced at the age of two, how they can
materialize and phase in through a wall. They can do
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the same with getting us to an area. And so
as soon as I woke up, I turned on all
the lights in my room, I turned on my TV,
my regular Nintendo, my stereo because I was freaked out
because I knew what took place, and it took me
a good twenty minutes to gain composure even enough to
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fall back asleep. Well, I fell asleep with my life
and my stuff on, and as soon as I went
to sleep, I was in this dream state contact where
it was really weird. It was almost like I was
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underground somewhere. I was deep underground, and I see this
light encompass this tunnel and go straight there, and all
of a sudden, I'm in face with the main source
of contact, which is a tall white entity, and it
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says to me telepatholically in my dream state contact. And
this happened as soon as I fell asleep right away,
and it says to me, we're really sorry that you
got startled and frightened like this, because I was shook up.
But they said, we wanted to let you know that
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will always be with you, but your physical contact is
not going to be something that happens as often as
it has been, and we'll still have a physical interaction
with you and do time. But what they emphasized was
that they really wanted me to digest everything that was
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happening to me, because you've got to understand that from
the age of two all the way to adolescence age
of about fifteen, there's a long time frame that takes place,
and this is where my peripheral and my perspective blindfolds
are starting to come in. That child's mind of consciousness
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that I had mentioned earlier was starting to change. And
so they said, we need you to take time to
digest these things that have happened, so that way you
could better apply in your life as you become an adult.
And so what took place. And it was really hard
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because I remember everything leading up to that, and then
it became stagnant. With the physical interactions, I was having
them all the time as a kid. I was being
taken aboard the craft to learn things about telepathy, about
being more understanding about the energies around me, and being
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aware of things taught me about looking at the screens
with the symbols that would allow me to see different
events that were possibilities of taking place, with natural disasters,
climate change, just being more in tuned, and then the
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whole adolescent stuff with having my physical anatomy being looked
at and having semen taken away, probably for the purpose
of using for a hybrid child or children. Do I
find it abrasive in that manner? Not really, I could
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if I chose to do that but I've had a
lot of time to digest and understand things that have
taken place, and so I look at it as, yes,
I may have this blood type that's rare, and it
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works with them using my DNA to help generate a
a offspring or a new species. Two be able to
learn and grow as well because within these experiences within themselves.
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I know a lot of people and I try to
distance myself away from watching things about UFOs and alien
abductions and stuff like that because I don't want to
adapt another person's experience and use that within my own
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at all. But I also intrigued and and interested in
hearing someone else's experiences because all of our experiences different
in a lot of way. So that being said is
I've noticed that there's a lot of people saying YouTube
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and stuff like that that like to comment and say
these are demons and they're negative and evil and they
have an evil intent. Let me just emphasize this with
great importance and just allow the audience to be aware
of this. God has many houses in his kingdom, and
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so when we come to understand that these entities that
help pro create planets are in service to God and
his creation because the human body is just a vessel
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or another word, a container for a spirit or soul
to inhabit to experience this dimensional plane on Earth. So
that being said to have a body and a physical form,
that there is aware consciously of awareness and expression and
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can can navigate and create and be able to experience
what it's like to be in a physical form, allows
Source energy, if you want to call it Source God
consciousness to come through, because we are all connected as
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one with the extraterrestrials, transcendental entities, with Source itself, God Christ.
We are all part of one consciousness, and so in
order for God or consciousness to experience itself, it has
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to ractal itself off and splinter itself off to be
able to experience its own creation. So that being said
is these entities that help seed other planets and help
do things are in service to the greater whole of
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a physical existence and spiritual existence and understanding. In fact,
if anything, I have grained a greater relationship with Source
or God or Christ through them. They've helped me understand
that I'm not just merely this human vessel experience experiencing
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itself as Nathaniel or Nathan, I'm much more than that
name that is given to me, and I've always been
in existence. And so that being said, as when they
told me that they wouldn't be in my physical presence
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as often, but they would always be with me, and
I would still have enough physical interactions with them allow
me to have this greater understanding now in my present time,
because I could have went down the path of saying
these are entities that are all negative and they're here
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to harm us and do wrong. I've experienced some tough
things and it's not been easy. I do even as
an adult, sometimes being in my own home that I
feel uneasy walking up the stairs with no one behind me,
like I feel as if there's a presence behind me.
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At times. I see shadow people or shadow entities. A
lot of the time. I experience lights in the sky
that come down. I experience dream state contacts where they
feel so physically real, but I'm in a dream state.
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I've had outer body experiences that I've been taken place
and taken on in my life, and it's been quite
a wild ride. And I have so much gratitude and
I'm very lucky to be able to have the opportunity
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to come on the show today and share this with you.
And that's just a small glimpses to some of the
experiences that I've had in the physical form. I was
never brought up into a religion or anything in my family,
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had the freedom to choose my beliefs, and I didn't
ask for these experience to come in. They just are natural.
They have always been in my life. They're very important
to me. They are very important for me to be
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able to share and give insight in a greater understanding
to people that I am in contact with, not just
with relationships. And it doesn't have to be emphasized. And oh,
while I'm an extraterrestrial contact tactic and I have experiences
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happening throughout my whole life, But the greatest lesson I've
learned is how we all contribute to the greater whole
of being able to get closer to that omni present
consciousness that we are all a part of. And so
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during that time where I had a chance and even
still to this day to digest things and understand things,
it's allowed me to be able to be more open
to things and and look at what they've taught me
and how I can apply that in my daily life.
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I remember as a teenager trying to find some outlet,
and I had a hard time explaining this to my
parents are even getting I never had someone to be
able to have some common ground, to just communicate openly
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about what I was going through. I remember telling my friends, hey,
you know, I was taken from my room. I had
extra trestles coming up to me. I got ridiculed, I
got laughed at by my friends saying you're full of
You're full of garbage, you know. And so it caused
me for a long time to keep that in, and
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I don't think it's fair for me to bottle let
that inside, to not share. I'm not embarrassed. I know
the consequences of me explaining this. I've experienced negative criticism
from others and comments on YouTube, and that's fine. I understand.
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Everybody has their own perspective lens, and they're willing to
believe as they choose so, and that's the beauty of
being a human being and having a free enterprise of
being able to believe your own beliefs. My purpose here
(01:17:57):
is not to can vincy of anything. It's more to
allow you to be used discernment and understanding that there
is a greater presence than just what we're experiencing here
with interacting with each other on the planet, but we
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are also being interacted with other entities. Some could say angels,
some could say extra direction, extraterrestrial entities, extra dimensional entities.
The list could go on and on. But we're not
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the only species living a life, and we are all
doing things simultaneously in an omnipresence state, happening all at
one point in time, and it's happening now. And the
important thing to understand right now, as we're starting to
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share this is we're in a timeframe right now where
the Earth is going through a big transformational shift and
energy and consciousness. There are people that are becoming more
aware of their innate abilities and their true nature. People
are now finding that the extraterrestrial presence UFOs or the
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new terminology UAPs are now a thing that is being
talked to about, which was now once ridiculed. I want
everybody to be very aware of the information that is
being presented through the media, what is going to be
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told by the governments about what's happening here, and in fact,
if anybody has been watching this. You can hear the
sense that they're using the term this could be a
possible threat to national security for the state of the
United States of America also other countries. Just know that
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this agenda that we're going to be able to witness here,
especially as we start progressing in time now, that they're
going to use these things in a way of control,
maybe possibly manipulation for a lot of people. And so
(01:20:37):
what I would really encourage everybody to understand that each
and every one of us that have had experiences and
that are having experiences, we are the disclosure movement. We
have been brought forth at this very press in time
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right now to not just share our stories through a
media platform, but that we have a great gift and
opportunity two help move consciousness people that are in a
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different mindset, just not to convince them, but just based
on our actions alone, what we choose to do and
what we've learned from these experiences, may it be positive
or negative, always look that they're in the negative experience,
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there is also a positive outcome that comes through this.
So it's very important that we all come together, especially
now and start working forward and propelling this new understanding
in this new way into the world that is needing
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to be birthed because everything is starting to come to
the surface now. And so I would implore each and
every one of you experiencers to work together, work with humanity,
work with others to be of service to show that
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we can be more omnipresent and more symbiotic with our planet,
with our fellow friends and families and members here on
Earth that we share this wonderful experience with because we
are in servitude of source to be able to come together.
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And this is one important message and teaching that has
always been true to all of my contact experiences is
to unify, come together, and stop labeling, segregating people, stop
doing harm to the planet because what we do harm
to the planet also affects other dimensions. Like I said,
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the bleed through and ripple effect is very real. If
you do not believe that other forms of life, for intelligence,
or extraterrestials or dimensional entities exist, just go ahead and
go to your bathroom, look in front of the mirror
and look at yourself and know that you're not alone.
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There is more to you and more to others out there.
And I think it's very important that we understand that.
So that is basically kind of where I've come to
a conclusion and understanding, and things just keep unfolding rapidly
within my life with this extratriusctial contact experience. I didn't
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know if you wanted to share the the video or
anything like that that I had sent you or some
of the images, but I've got.
Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
A few questions before that. Yes, and thank you for
the story. It's an amazing one so far. It's a
beautiful one. I believe your father is an experiencer.
Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Possibly So when I was, let's say thirty six years old,
my wife and I had went over to my dad's
house hair up in Utah. He had purchased a company
and we went to come visit and have dinner with him.
My son was just barely born, he was a baby,
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and we were sitting down watching a basketball game on TV.
And see, my wife does not doesn't really have a
belief system in the extra trustial presence. In fact, when
I share these things, doesn't. It's really hard hard to
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be able to be fully open and have my even
partner be able to be on my side with it.
She says, you got to be careful on what you
say to the kids. They don't need to know this stuff.
And I said, well, you know, if I'm not being
authentic and true to myself and I'm not being truthful
to my children, what happens in the case if something
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happens to them, who are they going to turn to
when they need help? Because I didn't have that really,
I had it with my mom a little bit, and
not until I was about thirty six. With my dad.
We were having a conversation as we were watching the
basketball game, and I said, Dad, can I ask you
a question. This is the first time I ever told
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my dad anything. I said, did anything ever weird happen
to you at the house? Because the house that we
built where I had a lot of the extraterrestrial contact experience,
it also had just a lot of pair of normal experience.
We had built this We'd bought land on this piece
of property and built this house. Well, I think that
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there was It's called Tribuco Canyon. In Tribuco is a
old rifle and this canyon had a lot of Native
American presence on there. And so I had asked him.
I said, yeah, I've any weird experience at this house
because we would have a female ghost that was in
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our house and from the Victorian timeframe, and she would
walk around the house. We would have cabinets opening and
closing at night. We're just weird events. And every one
of my siblings and my family had experienced this, this
female presence in the house. And I said, I'm not
(01:26:54):
talking about the ghost stuff dat, I said, I'm talking
about extraterrestrials. Have you ever had any experience with anything
like that? And I said, and this is the first
time I ever said anything. I said, because I've had
this throughout my whole life, from the time we were
in Torrents at the time we lived in the house
in Tribucal Canyon into this present time. And he goes,
(01:27:17):
this first time I ever said anything to my dad.
He goes, you know, in fact, I had been taken
aboard a craft and he said he encountered a female entity.
He remembers laying on the table in the craft and
(01:27:41):
during that time, he said, she said everything would be fine.
She just wanted to know more about him. And he
said that they came from his balcony into his room
and he was aboard the craft. Now I don't know
if these two things correlate with one another. But this
(01:28:04):
was shortly after the time where I was fifteen, where
I was taken from my room and I woke up
in my bed with my girlfriend. I had woken up
in the middle of the night, and out my window
I saw a black triangle crap what I would assume
(01:28:27):
would be a black triangle craft in the sky, just
hovering maybe about seventy five yards from my window. And
it was just hovering there. There were three bright white
lights in a triangle formation, just sitting hovering right there,
(01:28:48):
no sound or anything like that. And I don't know
what caused me to wake up. I don't know if
maybe I had just got done having an experience and
then I came to a waking state for a moment.
But I was laying on my side in my bed
(01:29:10):
and I noticed this craft right outside my window, and
I'm just staring at it, and I wished to this
day and I had messaged to you about this, and
I said, man, I wish I would have just got
off my bed and walked outside and had the courage
to go out there and see what was happening. The
other instance it could be is maybe that could have
(01:29:34):
been the point in time where my dad was aboard
the craft. I don't know. And it was there hovering
in my window for several minutes, and as I saw it,
it finally started to rotate in a clockwise rotation and
(01:29:59):
slowly star started to move across my window. And I
could definitely tell it was a black triangle craft at
that point because I could see when it started to
spin the lights on the craft started to slightly bring
out the silhouette of the craft itself to where it
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was definitely a black triangle. It was very thin, but
it was big enough. It was probably about as thick
as a normal room from from Florida ceiling as far
as thickness went, and it was probably about maybe seventy
(01:30:41):
five feet long. And I saw it slowly starting to
spin away, and it went away. But I had asked
my dad that question, and he said he did have
an experience. My mother also had an experience where she
had an anti come in her room at one point
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and in a place in Utah, and she said, this
is an interlock in which is in Midway, Utah, just
a little further south from Hebrew, Utah. She had southwest
from Utah, I mean the Hebrew, and she said that
(01:31:24):
she had an entity that was in her room that
was really tall, where she referred to him as a
as a male that his head would was almost hitting
the ceiling, so very tall, and asked if he could
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lay with her beside her in her bed, and she
said that was okay, And she had mentioned that he
asked for her hand, and so she laid While she
was laying on the bed, she let the male entity
hold her hand and they just laid there and had
(01:32:11):
a conversation. I don't know of what conversation, and my
mother doesn't recall, but she just said that you wanted
to lay beside her and talk to her. I guess.
And so my mom's seen UFO craft up at the
log cabin that she has just randomly here and there,
(01:32:33):
but not too She did mention that when my father
passed away that she had some experiences with some entities
coming in her room that were negative and she was
warning me, like to be careful, and I said, I
think she was watching my Aachi and alien shows and
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I'm just said, you know, they're not here to harm you,
and if you were, you're be okay. I always make
sure to ground yourself. So yeah, yeah, my father and
mother did have a little bit of conversations.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
We talked about the tall whites, the grays, but you've
sent me an image also about the Pladeans or what
you think they might be.
Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Nordics.
Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Can you talk about your interactions with them?
Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Yeah, the very limited. In fact, I had an experience
with the female Nordic or what you would refer to
a palladium type entity where I was sitting on the
back patio of my backyard of my current home, and
(01:33:42):
I was just hanging out in the daylight and just
enjoying just outside and listening to the birds and hanging out,
and all of a sudden, I had a palladium female,
not her whole body, but just her face come into
(01:34:07):
play and looked at me and talked to me, and
later on she shared an information. And this was before
my daughter was born, and she just during this time.
(01:34:28):
I think it was two thousand, twenty and seventeen or
eighteen is when this took place, because my daughter was
born in twenty nineteen. So I was having a lot
of things happen. In fact, my first radio presence or
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YouTube presence, which most of all my videos are all
taking off on YouTube because of some of the people
that I did interviews with, I took all their information
down on their YouTube site or channel and stuff like that,
which is kind of a shame because I had some
really good information there for people to access. But I would.
(01:35:15):
And there's a YouTube party named Third Phase of Moon.
I don't know if you've heard them before, but this
is how I got started onto it. They used to
do it Friday night call in Line, and so they
(01:35:36):
would do their live show on YouTube, and they listed
their number on YouTube where you could call in live.
And so I'm sending out on the back patio at night,
and I decided to do the call in line so
I can actually hear what was going on live. And
so what happened was I was listening and all of
(01:36:00):
a sudden, I get picked. I get picked to talk live,
and I'm like, oh, man, okay, I guess it's time.
But I wasn't expecting to get picked at all. I
didn't know how it would work or anything. I just
thought you could listen to people's conversation all on the
phone while they're having the show. And so I got picked.
(01:36:22):
But during that time, was the first starting point of
me being open to the public about my experiences. That
led forth to knowing Doctor j which was a co
host on his show, and then he had his own
programming where I met Johnny web which is the guy
(01:36:43):
who asked me if I was a hybrid child, and
then things just started a snowball. But that Palladian entity
had came in for a reason because I was having
a lot of things happening to me with downloads, and
(01:37:04):
I was getting things in where I was more focused
on meditating, more focused on what maybe some people are
familiar with with CE five protocol, with actually sitting out
an intention to bring forth craft or entities to come in.
(01:37:29):
And so I felt that it was necessary that that
I was being more open and in tune to this
stuff that was happening. In fact, when I had my
son in twenty eleven, it took us so my wife
and I wowed to conceive him and it was interesting.
(01:37:52):
And this doesn't really go with the pladium that much,
but what it does go with is I have almost
had a similar experience as my mom saying that she
could see through her stomach into her womb to see
what I was going to look like. Well. With both
of my children, I knew my son was going to
(01:38:12):
be a boy. First off foremost, for our first child,
I knew that he was going to have blonde hair,
blue eyes, and so when he was born, he came
out with blonde hair, blue eyes. And this was just
an intuition feeling that I had. And in twenty nineteen
we had our daughter, Olivia, and we had worked. It
(01:38:37):
was also, as you can tell, there's a quite big
eight year gap in between our kids. But during that time,
and this was right before the whole pandemic era took place,
(01:38:57):
I was having a lot of contact experience and in fact,
when I would go to bed at night, I would
get this tremendous amount of ringing in my ears, almost
so much so, not like this high pitch noise, but
to the point where I could fill my ear drums
(01:39:18):
vibrating and it was very intense, and then it would
cause my body to vibrate. And I was having these
experiences happen. In fact, during that time, I had had
an experience with mantid that came in and was looking
(01:39:43):
at me. I was asleep, but I could see it
looking at me. And in fact, I felt like it
was helping my body because I had gotten quite overweight.
I my health was as great as far as just
(01:40:03):
being healthy and taking care of my body, and I
think they were helping me be able to conceive another
child during that time. And so I had that interaction
with the mantis entity. There was another time where I
had the dreams say contact where I was actually told
I was on a break. I work for public transportation
(01:40:29):
for the state of Utah, and I'm an instructor for
bus operators and for public transportation, and I had a
long break in between, and so I decided to come
home from work and taken that and during the nap time,
I was woken up by a telepathic voice saying are
(01:40:53):
you ready to go? It's time to go, And it
was a definitely a mel voice, and I had a
really pronounced tone to it, like like it was really interesting,
and I said, I'm not ready to go right now.
(01:41:13):
I said I can't be late back to work because
I didn't know what the time would be like or
anything like that. So I declined going right there then
and there. But yeah, I had that event take place,
and then shortly after I knew my daughter was going
(01:41:34):
to have brown hair, brown eyes, and we had already
picked out her name before we picked out our son's name.
My wife and I picked on Olivia Ray as her name,
and we had the boy our son first. But she's
really special. I didn't have as much opportunity with my
(01:41:54):
son to be there as much like I am now
with my daughter, where I have a work schedule where
I could keep her home with me as she's growing up.
And that's kind of our long delay in this interview
process that we've had together. We wanted to do this
a couple of years ago and my commitment to raising
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my daughter. And now she's five now, so she's in school.
So it's really nice to be able to give you
my time and you make the time for me to
come on. So yeah, it was. It was a beautiful
thing that you know everything and timing right. And so
during that point in time where we found out that
(01:42:41):
she was pregnant, I knew what she was going to
look like and everything. And I broke down as soon
as she came out because I saw brown hair, brown eyes,
and she is like the splitting image of myself. But yeah,
just so many different experiences with what I would I
guess we can elaborate on the raised a little bit.
We didn't really elaborate with them as much, but the
(01:43:04):
mantons are definitely overseers. I think they're involved in genetics,
and for sure from my experience, I believe they're also
really involved in seeding of planets in life forms with
flora and fauna and other planets. And this is just
(01:43:29):
based on the knowledge and experience and some of the
things they taught me as a young child and witnessing
through this holographic display that was aboard the craft. Now,
a lot of the times there was multiple different species
aboard the craft, like mantises and grays working alongside, same
(01:43:52):
with Paul Whites. Occasionally the Nordics or polit type entities
as well. They would have be involved with the specs
as well. I've had a very brief encounter with a
(01:44:12):
reptilian type of entity. This was different in fact, so
this was a dream state contact. But I don't know
how much of a dream it was, because there's some
things that I question as far as what are actually
(01:44:34):
dreams or actually real contact experiences that I'm going through
maybe in an aster level, but I remember running away
from these reptilian entities, and it was almost as if
I was in some form of military or war in
(01:44:56):
some fashion, but gravity was different, and so when I
would jump, I would leap really far and have great
distances in the air, and I remember getting caught by
one of them and them staring me in the face,
and then I woke up from the dream. I don't
(01:45:18):
know what relation that has. Maybe that could be something
from a past life situation, I don't know. But the
grays themselves, I've had some communication and interaction with them,
not as much as you would think. I think some
of them are a organic type robotic life form, that
(01:45:44):
is that assists like certain entities that are aboard the
craft that I have communication with. It be the tall
white or maybe what I would refer to as a
different form of a gray, not a smaller child type gray,
(01:46:06):
but a larger gray. What I kind of refer to
them as the whys Grays. I think I sent an
image of them with the Nordic and the one with
the robe. Those are the ones that were gray, that
were taller and stature, that came into my room with
the with the hooded robes on and so. But the
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smaller ones I think they are there to assist the
main contacts or the or the people that are in
charge of the craft, because I think they are designed
or made in a way that is they're more adaptable
to come into this dimension frame where maybe the other entities,
(01:46:55):
maybe it be to our environment with gravity, gravity or
or exposure of things, that they're more suitable to come
into our existence here and help with some of the
contact experiences. But I have had some interactions with the
(01:47:15):
smaller grades, not so much. In fact, those ones I
kind of had to be careful with interacting with because
some of them I felt were very intrusive as far
as the uh some of the DNA sampling and semen
stuff like, I felt like they were like, yes, now
(01:47:40):
I look at it, and it's more positive I was
contributing to something greater. But during that time, it felt
like I was just there as their specimen sample, I guess,
and I didn't really get much of a teaching as
much from them. It was more of we're here, we
(01:48:03):
need to do this, and I know that there's a
greater purpose behind it, and so I just have been
really careful on what Now since I've been more able
to bring forth information and have these contact experiences to
(01:48:25):
be careful on what I'm allowing into my life, Like
I really set up ground rules and when I make
open contact of what I'm allowing in. Because when you're
allowing extraterrestrial entities to come in and you're doing CE five,
you're also opening up a door for something even more
(01:48:46):
than just extrapressional contact with everything. So this was an
event that took place my friend Matt Elison, which is
one of my best friends from California. He's actually one
of the people that I had. He is the person
that I had told him that I was taken from
(01:49:08):
my room and he laughed and thought I was full
of garbage, and I told him, I said, Okay, if
you don't believe me, I said, one day you and
I will be together and you're going to see something
that I experienced. And I told him this. So several
years down the road, him and I went out to
(01:49:31):
a private beach in southern California and Laguna Beach, and
this is where my friend had a beach house for
the summer, and so we were down at Aliso Creek
and Aliso Viejo, California. Just it's just south of Laguna Beach,
and we decided to go to I'm like, let's go
to this private beach and this is going out. So
(01:49:52):
we drove the car down there and we went out.
And that's a private beach house community where in the
daytime have a security guard and unless you know a
residence there, you can only get in with the invitation
from the resident. And so at night time you can
go on the beach and it's not guarded by security.
(01:50:13):
So we went out there and we started walking down
on towards my friend's beach house, and all of a sudden,
this big mist comes out in the ocean. It was
a clear night, so you can see some of the
ships out in the water and oil rigs out there,
(01:50:33):
and so this big fog comes rolling in and almost
reminded me of the movie Firre in the Sky with
Travis Walton where you see that big bright glowing light
where he encounters the craft in the forest. Will same
color light. This bright reddish orange light appears from this
(01:50:57):
mist out in the water. I say, Matt, you see this,
I said, what is this? I said, look, it's clear,
And all of a sudden, this fog is way out
in the distance, and this bright orange light comes and
then the fog and the bright light goes away, but
the like really bright, but you can still see the
(01:51:19):
orange glow. And it was really far away out in
the water. So I actually had to do this with
my hand and like look in to like get a
fine boat viewpoint because I didn't have binoculars or anything.
And I said, do you see this? I said, this
is what I'm talking about right here? Man, I said,
(01:51:40):
this is this is a UFO And so he's like
and he's like, oh, dude, that's crazy. What is that?
And so we're looking at it and this is a
big disk craft. I mean, it was huge, massive in it.
And so what happened. It was hovering above the ocean
and you could see lights spinning in this direction right here,
(01:52:05):
and then the bottom white spinning in the opposite direction.
It was really golden amber and color, and it was
hovering there, and all of a sudden, this blue beam
came from the bottom and hit the water for just
a split second, almost like someone turning on a light switch,
and it stayed there for a second, and all of
a sudden, this mist or fog came in and that
(01:52:27):
light got really bright and then it went away, and
so him and I got to experience that night, just
illustrated that. For one of the interviews that I have
with doctor J asked for some things. But the funny
thing about that experience is about five years later down
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the road, I had met another friend or acquaintance I
should say that I never knew before, and I got
to know him pretty well, and we went on a
motorcycle ride up where my dad lives in Lake Elsmore,
and he brought his motorcycles up there. But we went
back to his house in Orange County and he got
(01:53:10):
on a weird topic about UFOs and I said, you know,
there was one day where I was in Laguna Beach
and me and my friend experienced this event that drawing
that I did. And he goes, no way, you're not joking,
are you, guys. He's like I was in Laguna Beach
and me and my friends witnessed that same exact thing
(01:53:34):
that I described to him. He was there the same
night in a totally different location. I did not know
him whatsoever prior to that, and he got to experience
the same thing, which I found that was just oddly
abnormal to be able to like that's like pulling a
(01:53:54):
needle out of a haystack to know that another person
saw the same exact thing from different location in Laguna
Beach and Sada, which was really crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Do you recall everything human children on board the craft?
Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Yes, I do. Some young kids in the same room
with me doing different things sometimes. This one time we
were in a room and this female, tall white entity
(01:54:34):
was showing us this ORB and it would levitate in
her hand and it was like a toy, and she
would show us how to be able to move it
with our mind. And in fact, this is how the
(01:54:57):
craft works. And I think this is how they were
showing us these things like this orb, how our thoughts
and how we could direct our thoughts and to moving
that object, which I would can. What I've referred to
(01:55:19):
call it is coherent thought sequencing, and where we have
a clear and coherent thought and we think about that
particular object or time and space or wherever it may be,
we can direct that thought and use that and maybe
(01:55:46):
that's how they I think that's a good majority of
how the craft is moved and located. Is they have
this I don't know how to use correct term, but
they can almost bolt. I don't think this is the
right word, but like locate something through coherent thought like
(01:56:11):
and that's how it is with doing CE five contact
is what I do is I meditate, I project myself
as a light and I and I visualize the area
where I'm at and I project that outwards and then
what happens is it acts as a signal. Because what
(01:56:34):
I've come to understand is we are a transceiver. We
can transmit and also receive information. And so that was
something that I was aware of when with kids in
the room with us, as we would be together and
(01:56:56):
we'd be looking at objects or moving or inner acting
with certain objects and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Could you talk about the like the medical instruments that
you might have been in contact with.
Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Or viewed almost like a silver pin, just like a
silver almost like a test tube, but it's all silver solid.
It would project like a light of some sort and
(01:57:31):
they could look at your body as far as a
scan point. A lot of the instruments were based off
like a vibration or frequency type thing. They would emit
a light and they could you know, scan your body
(01:57:53):
in some instance. But and then also with that there's
a what I've noticed in the in the craft is
like I was explaining earlier, like inside the craft is
much bigger than what it is. There's everything is very
(01:58:14):
natural and not like hard edges in the craft, and
things tend to take form or shape that wouldn't necessarily
be there from what I experienced, Like there wasn't just
like a TV screen on a mount or anything like that,
(01:58:37):
like things would like shape. There was always this light
that you couldn't see a light bulb or source, but
there was a light emanating through in the ship. Very
organic in nature, but metallic. I know when I do
(01:59:03):
have experiences with the craft and stuff like that that
I feel like there is a like a knowing or
a sense of presence within the craft itself, not just
from the entities, but from the craft. I feel like
I'm like it's aware of me and I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
Is there a story regarding the gray on that portrait
behind you?
Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Yeah, so this right here is something that I watercolored.
This is just one of the wise grays or entities
that I would be in contact with. And this planetary
body is just I don't know if I've seen this
(01:59:52):
before or it just seemed like something that I would
need to put into it. But yeah, that is just
an image of one of the wise grades that I
have taken.
Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
I'll not I'll be sharing with everyone some of your
video captures regarding UFOs. Could you maybe talk about it briefly,
what you what you saw and what you were able
to capture.
Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
These are just things like sometimes I'll just I usually
in the morning is all just pray to Source and God,
and I also include them in my prayer. And I
you know, sometimes I miss them and I don't get
(02:00:46):
to see them, and I want to be able to
to have more physical experiences again, and I know that
will happen in due time. But I just ask if
if they're doing okay, and if they if they have
the time to come in and say hello, and and
(02:01:08):
when it's convenient for them. And sometimes it's not answered
right away. Sometimes it takes several several days to a
week for them to come in. But and sometimes it's
it's really immediate, but it may take a few hours.
(02:01:32):
But they they come in and just make themselves show
themselves to me and I'll appear in the sky or
maybe a dream state experience or whatever. They feel that
it's important to get my attention or or or download
(02:01:55):
or something like that. They'll just make my presence. And
with the crafts, I don't know when it happens. I
just like it's not like, oh, hey, you need to
go outside right at this time. Like they are just
like you and I and they can uh. They have
things going on all the time. They're doing things and
(02:02:16):
they'll make their appearance when they're ready and I'm available.
Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
Nay, Nathaniel, I'll be sharing with everyone a video of
(02:04:22):
you capturing something at your front door. Explain what happened.
Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
So that video capture is of my ring doorbell that
captured some motion. And the funny thing about that story
is that was the second night of my daughter being
home from being born. So my wife and I were
(02:04:47):
downstairs with our daughter on the bed. We have moved
our bedroom downstairs in our basement area to be close
to our son and be with our daughter, so it
didn't feel like he was being separate from us and
his newborn sister. And so this we had that was
the second night of her being home from after being born.
(02:05:11):
At the hospital, My wife and I my daughterward laing
on the bed watching TV, and all of a sudden,
our ring doorbell just keeps going off, like we keep
getting alarms for motion up at the front door. And
my wife's like, can you please go outside and see
(02:05:32):
what's going on? And I'm like okay, but like at
the corner of my eye, I could see this orb
come into the downstairs basement where I'm seeing these things,
and my wife's like showing me the phone. She's like,
will you look out there. It looks like something's caught
(02:05:53):
on the rain gutters of our house. And I'm like, yeah,
I'll go check. And I'm like, well, I wonder if
it's windy outside or there's weather or something like that.
So and it just kept going off and off, and
I first I go to the front door. I open
up the door. There's no wind. And then this is
(02:06:13):
in the summer time. This is in April, so we
are getting warmer temperatures. There's no wind or anything like that.
I look around and I close the door. I walk
back outside. I said, there's nothing out there. Well, we
start getting more motion, and she goes, can you please
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go outside and look on the rain gutters to see
if something's either stuck on the rain gutters that's causing
that to move and can you remove it or if
there's something attached to our door. So I say, okay,
And this is where I know that there's something going
on from what I see in the video feed and
I saw the warb and so I start to get goosebumps,
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and I'm getting anxious as I go outside. End up
going back outside. And I walk outside and I grab
my phone and I'm shining the light up on the
for my flashlight on the phone up on the roof
to see if there's anything up on the roof that's
maybe swinging or anything like that. And nothing's on the door,
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stuck to the door, nothing stuck on the rain gutters
or anything like that that could be triggering that alarm
to go off. And I go back inside and I said,
there's nothing out there on everything's fine, And I knew
what was going on. But again, like I emphasized before,
my wife does not really like me talking so much
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about the uh my experiences and stuff like that, So
I just kind of let it go at that. I
know they If you look in the video and the top,
if I'm looking at my phone, it's in the up
left hand corner, you can see there's like this rectangular
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light structure and this thing waving it back and forth
like this. And I had taken some screen shots. I
don't know if you want to attach those, but I
was watching the video and I was making screenshots on
my video so I could better see it. But it's
not it's almost semi translucent, but in a solid state,
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and it appears to be an arm moving some type
of rectangular object that illuminates light. And there's some bars
that are going across the further I scan the video,
I noticed that there's an orb that comes from the
top right down into the basement area, and I think
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that and it's very small, you have to really pay
attention to it, but it goes into the ground and
I think it enters into our basement and that's maybe
where I saw the worm. But I think it was
my entities that come by and check on I mean,
that'll always been with me because and I didn't have it.
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I never had the rain door bill. Plus it wasn't
invented back in twenty eleven when my son was born.
But I'm sure they had also came by and checked
on him as well. But I think they were coming
in there to assist in any way to make sure.
And the cool thing about it is is I've noticed
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with watching my children grow up, is that and if
you have the opportunity to see an infant in its stage,
you can actually see that it's here physically, but its
spirit is also in between, maybe heaven or a different
place that it's been in, and so that they come
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into this existence, but they're not fully fully in the
vessel yet, so they kind of go in and out,
and that's why they rest a lot. They're doing two
things at once.
Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
Three h.
Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
M hm hm.
Speaker 2 (02:12:54):
Had sent you an image of what you thought was
an orb and but there's an actual entity that I
kind of highlighted around. I don't know if you were
able better enhance that or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:13:06):
But and Nathaniel, you sent me a drawing of what
looks like a saucer ufo on a handkerchief with people inside.
What's a sort of.
Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
So I was at work driving my bus and I
was at one of my end of blind times where
I start my next run, and all of a sudden,
this visual image popped up, like a memory popped up,
and I saw this thing of what had taken place
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with myself, and I just hurried and grabbed the closest
thing I could illustrate what I visualized in that memory
at the time, And that's kind of something that I
just heard he did a quick sketch and what that
is is, I know, it's so hard to show like
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the formation or structure of inside a craft like and
that's why I used like the lines, the kind of
show like curvature. But that's not there's no lines in it.
It's all solid and there's a table and I'm actually
on the table and there's extraterrestrial grays that are surrounding
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me on the table. But there's also two entities with
have like a cloak or roboon that are watching me,
and it's a male and female figure and there it's
just a part of my examination that took place.
Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
Now I know, Nathaniel, you're gonna have to leave soon.
Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
I have so much more sure that's yeah, yeah, I
don't have.
Speaker 1 (02:14:57):
To do a part too. But to finish off the interview,
like jab a closing statement or perhaps the final story
that you might want to get up.
Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
Yeah, my final statement was is each and every one
of us has a special gift and that's why we're
here on Earth and let's make sure that we act
in service to others right now. It's very important and
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I can't overemphasize this, and I'm being told to share
this is that now is the time for experiencers like
all of us two start being more involved. We need
to be able to help assist people in going through
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these experiences. I've had a long time forty three years
of since my first physical interaction of dealing with this,
since I'm almost forty five, and it's taken me a
long time to digest understand being involved in looking at
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what it is that we can do for the greater
whole of society or planet for that when it comes time,
because the time is coming to where we're going to
integrate together, there's going to be more contact in non
contact for people to be assured that you know, this
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is real. Yes, it's difficult sometimes, I think because there's
energy changing in the planet and people are becoming more
aware consciously that they are integrating into this new energy platform,
so that they are going to be able to to
be more cohesive in the whole process of open contact
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where it's not going to be shocking off. There are
still going to be individuals out there that are going
to have a hard time and reject that. Some may
not even be open to the experience because their perspective
lens won't allow them to be that way because of
their viewpoints, and so for their protection, they may not
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even be introduced to the experience in its whole, because
you have to understand that these entities and everything do
not want to put harm or fear or anything in
a state where it affects that individual and a negative
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fashion or negative manner, because it's not conducive for that
for that, and it also is not conducive for them
to be involved in a situation where where each party
could be threatened.
Speaker 4 (02:18:04):
In any way.
Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
We're not here on, but we're definitely here too to
open up. So it is our time to come out for.
Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
Well, Nathan, thank you so much for coming on. I
feel humbled and very appreciative that you took the time
to share it with us your story today. Love it
and thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (02:18:27):
Thank you. I really appreciate it. And again, there's just
so much more that I could share and emphasize on.
So if you want to continue in a later time,
might be more happy to give some more information because
there is so much that I've experienced that I could share.
Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Thanks again, Da Nathaniel for coming on and to those
watch it, I hope you enjoyed today's interview. I'm your host,
mister Great. More interviews coming up and I'll see you
guys next time. So thank you everyone. Hello everyone, this
is mister Gray, thanks for watching today's episode. If you
are an abductee, contactee, or experiencer and you believe that
your story could help others, please feel free to contact
me through my YouTube channel email. When it comes to experiencers,
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the T phenomena, and the future, remember truth will out