Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 3

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of
the Elite. I'm your host Jim Chapman, and today we
are back with the third episode in our Bad Boys
series covering Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I
left you, Aaron had been sentenced to life in the

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killing of Odin Lloyd, and it was not even close
to over for Aaron Hernandez. He then had to face
trial in the double murder that occurred via dry By
shooting in Boston. Now, as I told you, the star
witness in this trial was Alexander Bradley, and I brought

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you what I'm going to call part one of his testimony.
So in this first aspect of the testimony, the prosecution
primarily focused on Aaron's attitude. Bradley really stressed the fact
that Aaron hated men staring at him, and he would
insinuate by telling Alexander Bradley that these folks when they

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would stare at him, these men they were quote trying him,
And this to me, would speak to Aaron's major lack
of maturity. I mean, grow up, man. Just because someone
looks at you don't mean they're wanting to fight you.
Now you also heard Alexander testify to the fact that
he bought a gun for Aaron, And this, to me

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is more key than people may realize. Aaron was not
a convicted felon. He could have bought a gun in
his own name with no problem. But it's apparent to
me that Aaron did not want a weapon in his name.
And why do you think that is? Because he's planning
on shooting somebody, I would say so. Now, most importantly,

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in that testimony that you already heard, Alexander Bradley got
into the night of that double murder after leaving what
was known as Club Cure. So we're going to pick
up with Bradley's testimony of the shooting itself outside of
that club Cure and the aftermath. Now, just a note,

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the testimony of Bradley took several days, so I'm going
to play these in two hour blocks each time that
I dropped this particular series. Now, before I play this,
I just gotta say I had a comment on the
Facebook page. It was actually left yesterday, the day before

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I'm recording this, and it was from a lessener who
said that she quote just had to say someone was
forcing her to say this that she finds these long
what I'm going to call testimony blocks boring, which many
of you not only encourage me to include the actual testimony,

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but you're a lot like me. We're peeps, right, we're
a family. Find these things critical to telling the story.
You're hearing the story from these people's own words. If
that's not your.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Thing, all good.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Some people like it, some people don't like it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
This is my podcast. If it's not your thing, you
don't have to announce it. Just listen to another podcast.
You don't have to announce your exiting or that you
don't like it. It's apparent this podcast is not for you.
Or slide into my dms and tell me your concern,

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tell me that you don't like the podcast and you
find it boring when I play these clubs. But the
Facebook page in the comments is not intended as somewhere
to air a grievance. The Facebook page is intended to
promote the podcast in the episodes and keep my fans
abreast on when these episodes and put some files on

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the page, interesting fun stuff. I can tell you this.
My fans don't get off on negativity like some podcasts
out there where you look on these fan pages and
they're just filled with a bunch of negative bullshit. We
lack positivity around here on my podcast, and I don't
want that type of bullshit on my page. So to
this person, bye bye. You don't have to announce it,

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just leave. Just leave anyway. Enough of that for those
of you that appreciate it. Here is part two of
Alexander Bradley's testimony, and he's going to discuss in this
both the Boston murder and his own attempted murder at
the hands of Aaron Hernandez. Now you won't hear from

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me after this testimony has played today so much love.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Once you got up near the garage at some point,
did you turn back and go to the car?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
What caused you to go back to the car?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Mister Hernandez said, there they go, there they go.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Did you see what he was referring to when he
said there they go, there they go.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
At the beginning? No, what happened next? I walked back
to the car. When we walked back to the car,
I got in the driver's side. He got into the
passenger side of the car.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Did he say anything at that point.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
He was saying, go, go, go.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
What did you understand that he was referring to.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, I knew he was referring to that a BMW
passed at a certain point, pasted us, and he was like, go.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
And when the BMW passed he said go.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Did he point to the BMW or did you just
see it on your own?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm not sure if he pointed, but I knew he
gestured towards it out the window. Let go.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
When did he say there they go.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
As the car like I believe? Well, I mean at
the time he said see your car yet, So I
don't know were you still outside of the car at
that point when he said there they go? Yes?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
And then you got into the car, And what did
you see or hear, mister Hans do?

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Next?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
He was telling me to go because a BMW rode
by after that, and I went went to the light.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
You pulled out into traffic.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, pulled my blinker on pulled out in the traffic.
And there was a light very shortly thereafter and stop light. Yeah,
red light. There was a vehicle I believe on my
left and I went around the vehicle so I could
see cross traffic before I went through the light.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Did you stop at the light though initially yes? And
the vehicle to your left, do you remember what that
looked like?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm not exactly sure what kind of vehicle was.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Do you remember how close you got to that vehicle?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, I went around the vehicle, so I mean I
believe I went from behind it to around it.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
And once you got around it and stopped at the light,
what happened next?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I looked both ways, went through the light, made sure
there was no traffic coming.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Was the light red?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yes, the light was red.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Why did you go through the light?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Mister Nandez was telling me to go?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
What did he say exactly he was saying?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
He said, go go to catch up to the car
to BMW that passed.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Did you go through the light?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
What was your intention at that point to pull up
to the car, What if any observations did you make
prior to that point regarding the glovebox?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
After I got through that light, as I was approaching
the car, he removed the firearm from the glovebox. He
being who, mister Hernandez.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
What did you think was going to happen to rap?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I thought, at the very most he might try to
intimidate him or you know, maybe say something or address
the issue that happened previously in the club.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Did you have any idea he was going to do
anything more than that. No, did he state anything about
what his intentions were.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
No.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
After he said go and you went through the red
light and observed the gun being taken out.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
What happened next? As I was approaching there was another
light after that. I believe that car was at a
red light. I believed the light was red. And as
I was approaching the car, he told me watch you know,
he was telling me roll the window down. First the wall,
He said, roll the window down. And I rolled the
window down. And when we got up to the car,

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like right when we approaching, he put his hand on
my chest and was like watch out, like indicating for
me to like, you know, like pushing me back kind
of in a seat, like so I could lean back.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Did you lean back?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (08:42):
I did?

Speaker 4 (08:43):
How did you do that?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
With the power the button on the side, I reclined
the seat.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
What happened next?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I rolled the window down, reclined the seat, and he leaned.
He leaned across me and extended his body out the
window with the firearm in his hand.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And when you say extended his body out the window,
was his whole body out of the window or just
a part of his not.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
His whole body. He extended from where he was sitting
in the car across me, like you know, across where
I'm sitting, on to my side. He was bracing himself
like off the I believe, I want to say, somewhere
on the floor book maybe near he was he playing
at his feet over on his side and leaned across me,
extended across my body.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
And what about his hands? Where were his hands positioned?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
He wind up placing his hand in the area of
the armrest, I believe on the arm rush.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
And for the record, you're taking your left hand and
placing it to your left.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, well the armress would be to his left correct.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
And what hand was holding the gun in his right hand?
And what did he do with that arm in hand?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
He stuck it out the window. He stuck fully extended across.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Where were you?

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Where was the car in relation to the BMW at
this point the.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Car was side by side, like real close.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
What if anything did you observe about the inside of
the car the BMW?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I remember a gentleman. I remember all of them, at
least the two front ones with their head down. A
gentleman was holding the phone in his hand, and that
was it.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
They were whatn't mister Hernanda's do or say?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
He said yo? One time? And the gentleman didn't respond,
like nobody turned around from the car. They weren't. They
weren't aware of the fact that we had pulled up
right on the side.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
How how loudly did he say yo?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
He was like loud enough, trying to get their attention.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
After he said yo, what happened next?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
He said? He wound up saying yo again, and then
they turned, and then he started firing rounds into their vehicle.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Did he say something before he fired?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Before he fired the gun? He was like, what's up now, niggas?
And he started firing shots.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Did he say what's up now, niggas? After they turned
or before for the turned.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
After he turned, because originally they didn't know we were there,
so after he got their attention by saying yo yo.
When they turned, he said, what's up now? Niggas? Started
firing shots into the car.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
How many shots did you hear fired?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
He fired five shots? Fire rounds?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Did you hear anything after the five shots.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, clicking. He fired rounds and the gun began clicking
after I heard like three four.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Clicks clicks coming from the gun.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Coming from the gun.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Did you turn.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Towards where the shots were being fired? Did you see
inside the car at all at that point?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
No, I was. I turned away from where the shots
were fired, and I turned my head to the right.
Like once he fired began firing shots, I turned my
head this way, which would be towards him.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
What happened after he fired those five shots and he
heard the clicking, he was like go.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like he was like go, you know, after the clicks,
he was like, come on, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Where did you go?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Which direction?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I pulled off through that street light? And I made
a right, which wind up being a one way street.
The street I made it turn onto was a one way,
So when I realized there was a one way, I
made another. Well, you turning in the middle of that
street and the light was red then, so I got
caught at that red light.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
So you actually stopped at the red light?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Did you look over at the BMW?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
What did you see?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I saw? The first thing I saw was a cab driver.
I remember there was a cab driver. His head came
he must have had his head down. I remember his
head popped up. And then I saw an individual get
out at BMW and was like someone It appeared like
they were running. Someone was running from the BMW. Someone
got out and ran And how.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Many people did you see it run out of the BMW?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I believe two people. I know one ran for sure,
but two got out the car.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Which way did they run?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
One of the individual that ran from the rear driver's
side was running up the street towards I mean, I
don't know if it's a northern south direction.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
With testified that you saw two individuals from the BMW
run from the BMW.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
One I know rain, another one at least got out
the car.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
And do you have any idea which way the one ran?
What direction in relation to where the highway is?

Speaker 7 (13:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
He was running, not back down towards Cure Way. He
got out and was running towards the where we would
have been at the intersection. If you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
And mister radhad just placing the screen what's been entered
as exhibit number six, do you recognize the car depicted
in that photograph, sir?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
And which car is at?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's the BMW?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Is that the BMW that you saw the defendant shoot into?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Listen Exhibit twelve on the screen. Do you recognize that, sir?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
And is this aside on which you pulled alongside the BMW?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
And is this aside from which you saw the defendant
I'll shoot into the car?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yes, it's just a vehicle that you.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Saw one perhaps two people running from it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
After seeing the two people run, and you were stopped
at the light after going the wrong way?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
What did you do next?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Waited for the light to turn green.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
What was mister Hernandez saying or doing at that.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Point at that point? Nothing? Nothing?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yet when the light turned green, where did you go?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I went straight? I went through the light, headed towards
the highway.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Did you know where you were going?

Speaker 8 (14:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
At a certain point, mister Hernandez, you started using his
phone to GPS.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Now as you headed towards the highway, did you see
any construction work or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yes, there was road work going on. There was. The
traffic was at a full stop. There was an officer
directing traffic.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Police officer, And did you go buy that officer?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
After going by the officer, were you're able to get
on a highway?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Do you know which highway?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was a highway? Right right? I'm pretty close to
what the officer was at.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Did you choose which way to go? Where you're being
told which way to go by mister hands?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I believe I was being told which way to go
by mister Hernandez.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Once you got on to the highways, sir, was it
a highway that had a toll or didn't have a toll?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, it was a highway to had a toll.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
And do you now know what highway that is?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I believe that's the mass Pike.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
As you started to drive, sir, was there any conversation
at that point before getting to the toll?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Before getting to the toll, he made a comment when
he asked me. He said to me, did I see that?
And I said no? He said, I hit one in
the head and one in the chest.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
How did he say that? I mean, was he saying
it in it? What was his tone in saying that?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
He was panicked like like kind of like a panic tone,
like a state of shock.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
So it wasn't a bragging tone. It was more of
a state of shock.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, it wasn't a bragging tone. It was more like shock.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
But how did you respond to him saying I got
one in the head, one in the chest.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, I didn't really respond.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
What was going through your mind at this point, mister Bradley.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I was panicked as well. I was in a state
of shock, just as mister Hernandez was.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Where was the gun at this point?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
The gun was still in his person, in his hand,
in his lap.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
Where was it?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm not exactly sure it was on him.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
As you started to drive down what you've identified as
a mastress's pike. What happened next?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
At some point we came to a toe booth and
mister Hernandez handed me money to hand the toll.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Guy, and you handed the toll collector money.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Did you go through the toll after handing the money?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yes, we went through the toe after going.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Through the toll.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Was there any further conversation between you and mister Hernandez
over the next few miles?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Not right away, but at a point.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Would you notice something on the highway?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yes, At a point a state trooper pulled out behind
us from off to the side of the road or
it was right near that toble. Like after we got
past the tobe, the state trooper pulled behind us, and
at that point he followed us for a little while,
not sure how long, but he got off the first exit.

(17:41):
And when the trooper got behind us, I got worried.
So once he got off the exit, I told, mister Hernandez,
you need to get rid of that gun.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
What did you see him do at that point?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
He removed the shirt and wiped the gun down. This
stuck the gun was hanging out the window. He disposed
of the shells that were in a gun.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
When you said disposed to the shells, how did he
do that?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
He was removing the shellcases that were left from the
inside of the gun, and then he threw the gun.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
What about the shirt that he was wearing. Was that
the same shirt you had given him?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
What was what did he do with the shirt before
throwing the shells and the gun out the window?

Speaker 5 (18:16):
He said he wiped something.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
He took the shirt off and wiped the handgun with it.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Was he bare chester at that.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Point at the point, yes, when he was wiping the gun,
he was a beer chest. What did he do with
the shirt when he was done, at some point he
put it back on. I mean, I don't remember if
it was right away, but he put the shirt back on.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Was there more after he threw what you believe, the
gun and the shells out the window.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Was there more conversation during that ride home?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Not much. I remember him saying, don't tell anybody.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
What did he say in that regard?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He just said, no, don't say nothing anybody.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, don't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Better not say nothing or sound like that.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Did you know where you were going at that point
on the highway or did you have to get directions somehow?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
We would I was driving based on his GPS that
he would he would? You know, he had a GPS
in his phone. At some point he plugged in. I
don't know exactly what he put into his phone, but
we were using the GPS.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Do you recall whether or not you got lost on
the way driving?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I believe so we did get lost. At some point.
We detoured some way or another. We took a different
route than what I'm used to taking. Something was different.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Where were you headed?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't know exactly. I don't believe at that that
point in time, I had any idea of where we
were headed.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Who was directing whom? Were you just driving or was
as directing you?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I was driving and we were using his GPS, so
he was kind of telling me where to go.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
And at some point was a decision made where you
were going to go?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
When was that?

Speaker 5 (19:53):
How far into the trip?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I mean a while into the trip. It wasn't right away,
but at some point in to the trip. I mean,
I don't know an exact time interval.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
But who decided where you were gonna go?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I wind up saying at the point that you know,
I was just gonna go to my daughter's mother's house.
I just wind up driving there.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Had mister Hernandez at any point suggested where you should
go prior.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
To that, I don't believe, So I don't exactly recall.
I mean, at one point I think we were gonna
go towards Plainville and wind up re routing somehow Plainville,
Mass and wind up.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
What was in Plainville? What was in what was there?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Plainville was where he was living at the time.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
But but you ended up not going to Plainville.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
We'd end up not going to his residence in Blameville.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
So did you enter the state of Connecticut later that
that early morning hour. Yes, when you got to Connecticut,
you indicated that you you decided to go to your
baby's mother's house.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Why didn't you go to your house in Manchester?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't no particular region. I just I can't justify that,
and I don't have a reason. I just went to
my daughter mother's house. It's this safe place for me.
It's a place I know, it's like a comfortable place
for me.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
What time in the morning was it when you got
into that area? And then she got back up a
little bit. Where did your baby's mother live at the time.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
She lived in Hartford, Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
How far is Hartford from Manchester.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's like fifteen minutes from where I was living.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Do you know about what time it was when you
arrived in Hartford?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
It was over into the morning, I believe. I know
it was daylight, so maybe five in the morning around
did you back then four or five in the morning.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Did you call your your baby's mother first before you arrived.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yes, I believe. Oh, I don't recall if I recalled her.
I think I did call her because I wouldn't have
been able to get in so I had to notify her.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
What is her name, Broke Wilcox? Wil Cox? Yes, do
you remember the address where miss Willcox was living?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Forty seven Newberry Street in Hartford, Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
When you arrived, where did you park the suv?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
If you recall the back the the back door of
her apartment is on a one way street, So I
parked it on that street. The street behind I believe
it's I can't. I think it's Glenn Dale.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
That Was that where you would always park when you
went to visit her?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Or was that different?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's where we always usually parked on a back street.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
When you parked the car, did the two of you
get out?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Where did you go?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Went upstairs into her apartment?

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Did she Did you knock on the door? Did you
have a key?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I believe she threw the key down from the second
floor window. She wind up dropping when I got in
touch with her, I believed through a phone call, or however,
she dropped the key out the window and unlocked the
door and went up.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
When you went up and was miss Wilcox aloneer was
a child there with her?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
She was then with my daughter.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
When you got up the stairs and saw miss Wilcox.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Where was was mister Hearnanda's with you?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Next?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
We went to the apartment and I kind of went
off towards it.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
She asked me what was wrong as I was walking
towards the back room, and I told you.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Did she ask you what was wrong? Or what were
you doing?

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Then?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Of course she said what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I must have looked like I was in the state
of shock still when.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
She asked you what was wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Did you answer her? Yes? What did you say? I
told her that mister Hernandez had just shot two people.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Where was mister Hernandez when he said this?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Not far from where I was telling her. It's a
small apartment, so I was into in her bedroom from
the kitchen area. He was off towards the living room,
but still near the kitchen. He was in close proximity.
He wasn't that far away.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
And you said to miss Wilcox that he that he
did what that.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
He shot two people in Boston?

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Did he react at all?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
When he did?

Speaker 5 (23:49):
He seem to hear you.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I wasn't in his direct views still, like in his
line of sight. When I was telling her, I was
walking off towards her bedroom.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
What happened next her?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
After that? He asked, we wind up giving him a
pillow in the blanket. He wanted a pillow in the
blanket to lay down on the couch. And I believe
maybe some sweatpans or something.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
And where did you go?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I went to the bedroom with Ms. Wilcox.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
At any point, did the defendi, mister Hernandez come in
to tell you.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Or show you something?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yes, he came in.

Speaker 10 (24:24):
What did he do?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
He said, come here, come here, come look, I want
to show you something.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Did you go follow him to see what he was
referring to?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
What did you see?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I exited the bedroom and went into the living room,
and it was I believe Channel sixty one the news
was showing the incident in Boston, this incident that we're
here for.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
On the news was showing the incident. Yes, what did
you see on the TV screen?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I saw? I remember seeing detectives walking in a row.
They were in a straight line and they were looking
on the ground like like looking for shelves that appeared
and they had some evidence markers out I believe.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
And this was shown to you by mister Hernandez. Did
he say anything about it? Was there any conversation, No,
not much.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I just I kind of looked and then I remember
just kind of going back towards the room.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
What happened next to her?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I believe he asked to use a phone, asked for
a phone and for her laptop computer.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Do you know about what time this was? Was it
late morning? Mid morning?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm it was after. It was not long after we
were there, so I don't know the exact time, but
I'll say all within the hour.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Now, you said he asked for a phone.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Do you know what happened to was his phone with him?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yes, his phone died at some point going back.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
How did you know that.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Because I was in the car with him when he died.
His phone died.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
When he said he needed a phone. Did you or
miss Wilcox give him access.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
To a phone? Yes, he did receive a phone. Do
you know which phone it was given? Could have been
my phone, It could have been I don't remember exactly,
but we gave him a phone. I know the house
there was a household at the time. My phone was available.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Did you see him make a phone call or do
something with the phone.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, I saw him start to dial a number like
he doubted he used the phone. Yes.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Did you hear any of the conversation he had on
the phone?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
No, not particularly like I didn't hear exactly said the conversation, though.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Now you indicated that he also asked to use a laptop. Yes,
where was the laptop if you recall, I believe.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
The laptop was in her bedroom at the time, or
it might have been in the living room. But he
asked to use the computer.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Did you or miss did you or Miss Wilcox let
me use the computer?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
What did you see him do with the computer?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
If you know he was watching the news, they was
doing the same thing on the computer, like looking at
the same information information on what on this incident that
we're here for.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Did you say anything? Was there any more conversation with
you about it?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Not much, because I was I spent the majority of
the time after that in the.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Back room, in the in the what room.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
And Miss Wilcox's bedroom, like the back room, away from him.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Calling your attention to some time after the phone call
or the use of the phone, you observed, mister Hernandez
due did did at some point?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Did somebody arrive at the house?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Who arrived at the house?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
A relative of his. Do you which relative, Miss Singleton?
Is that Tanya Singleton?

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Correct, that's the individual you've previously testified about.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
What what address did she live at?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Lake Avenue? I don't know the exact number off my hand.
What color was their house blue? I believe light blue.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
When she arrived at the house. Could you tell how
she had gotten there.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Originally? No, I didn't. I don't believe you know she.
I mean, I don't know what exactly how she got there.
She arrived at the house.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Where did you first see her? Was she in a
certain part of the house.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, she was in the hallway area, kind of like
right where you into the door. It's a hallway because
it's a two family apartment. So she was speaking with
mister Hernandez in the hallway and by the door. And
I believe she came like just into the house, like
not deep into it, like into the home a little bit,

(28:25):
and they were talking. Boy, they were talking in a
whispering tone.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
They were talking in a whispering tone.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, they were speaking in a low tone.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
It's placings in it two hundred and three on the screen.
Did you recognize that woman, sir?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes? Who is that Smiss Singleton?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Is that the woman who arrived at Miss Wilcox's house
in the morning on July sixteen, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yes, Is this the.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Individuals you describe having a whispered conversation with the defendant?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Had she knocked on the door at all? Or had
somebody just gone out to let her in? She had
she knocked on the door or had someone just let
her in? If I were.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Call correctly, I think there was a phone call. I
think she called or somehow he knew she was there
ahead of time when she got there, and then he
kind of met her, like at the door. She came
upstairs and met her at the door.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
After the conversation between the two of them that you described,
what happened next her?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
After that, Miss Singleton, she came in, she spoke with him,
and she left.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Did you when she left?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Did you see were you able to see outside to
see what vehicle she came or left it?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
When she left, h from the angle I had from
where the Toyota was parked out of the pantry windows,
you could see, you know, the direct line the car's
in direct view. So the car was parked right next
to a garage.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Which car we're talking about, the silver suv, the fore Runner,
the fore Runner.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
When she left, that car was gone and a white
Maximum was left there.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
The silver for Runner suv was gone. Yes, what kind
of car.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Was left there? A Nissan Maximum, a white one.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Do you know whose car that was?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
That was Miss Singleton's?

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Had you seen her with that previously?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I've seen it at that residence of on Lake cabb
at the house parking on driveway several time.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
What did you see, mister Hernandez?

Speaker 9 (30:29):
Do next?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Next? I mean some more time went by. I don't
recall exactly.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Did you ever at that morning? Did you ask him
where the suv went? Who took it?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
He said he was gonna have Miss Singleton cleaned the car?
In the story?

Speaker 5 (30:49):
What did he say exactly about that?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He said he told her to take it and clean
it up and put the car in the garage.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Did you tell you why he wanted her to do that?
I knew why did Why was that, sir?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Because of the incident that just occurred.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Did he say how she was?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
He was?

Speaker 5 (31:06):
He asked her clean it what she was supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I don't recall if he did or didn't but I
just remember him telling me he took her to clean
the car, told her to clean the car up in Heidi.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
How did mister Hernandez end up leaving Miss wilcox house?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Did he use a certain car?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (31:21):
What did he use?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Maxima?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
The white Maxima that you saw outside? Yes, that's the
Maxima that you'd seen at certain address. Yes, regretuling a
place the exhibit one ninety seven on the screen, do
you recognize the house depicted in the photograph?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Whose house is that?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's Simultants And is that the house.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Where you saw the white Maximum previously parked. Yes, place
exhibit one ninety eight on the screen. Is that a
photograph of the same house, but in the driveway area?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (32:06):
How long did you stay at Miss Wilcox's house that day.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Mister Bradley, I don't recall.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Was mister Hernandez still there when you left, or did
he leave or had he left already?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I believe I left right around the same time as him,
either shortly thereafter or I don't remember exactly.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Mister Raley.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
What happened over the next several days and weeks in
regards to relationship with the defendant Aaron Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
We kind of just kept our distance from one another
a little bit, like there was some communication, but we didn't.
There was less contact, less daily contact and let's hanging out.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
At some point, did that change?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yes, what happened. We began hanging back out again like
we used to.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Did you start going back to clubs? Yes, how frequently. Uh,
it was progressive. It got back to just as much
as we used to. Did you ever have a conversation
with the defendant over those next few weeks and months
about the silver suv and what he expected to be
done with it?

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't think I recall any particular conversation other than
the fact that you know, on the original date. Nothing
stands out to me.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Did you ever have a conversation with the defendant where
he mentioned Jack Fox?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
What was that conversation?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
He told me Jack Fox was the the the car
dealership in which he got the car from, and he
believed there was a a incident later on when he
was at the stadium and he told me someone came
to get the car, to pick up the car or whatever,
and he thought it was the police coming to look

(33:59):
for the car, and you know, that was the extent of.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
That, did he have a conversation with you about what
he intended to do with the car and particularly regarding
an agent of his.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Observe then asked an answer sustained, well.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Did you have a conversation with a defendant about his
sports agent and some instructions he had given his agent
guard in the car?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
What was that conversation?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
He wanted to figure out how he could buy the
car or have possession of the car so he could,
you know, dispose of it. Then he wanted the car
to be his so he didn't have to go back
to the dealership. At any point he told you that
he wanted to buy the car and the purpose of
the car was to do what he wanted to make
the car his so he could get rid of it,
you know, do what he wanted to do with the car.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Now, what if any observations did you make, mister Bradley
over those next several weeks and months regarding the defendant's demeanor,
particularly when you would go at the clubs.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
He's he became extremely paranoid of everything and everybody in
what way he just called every he just assumed everyone
was a detective or everything, every matter was police related.
Just his sense of paranoid was heightened. He was just
extremely paranoid.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Did you become aware if he had done anything with
his phone after the murders?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yes? He wanted a no iPhone rule. He didn't want
iPhones around him anymore.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Had he previously had an iPhone the night of the murders?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yes? Previously.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Do you know what happened to that phone in.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
That particular phone, No, I don't know exactly what happens.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Did the phone numbers stay the same or did the
phone stay the same for mister hernandez H.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I don't recall, but I mean we used. I don't
recall if the number stayed the same or whatever.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Did you ever see that iPhone that he had previously
on the night of the murder?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Afterwards?

Speaker 9 (35:57):
No?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
What kind of phone did he get after that?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
If you recall a BlackBerry, Paum, I believe BlackBerry phone.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
That you indicated something about a no iPhone rule? What
was said about that.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
And what did you deserve?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
He didn't like iPhones around him because he said that
he learned that they could record everything at all times,
and he didn't want him around him. From a he
said he learned that from someone in his organization, some
particular meeting or something at the stadium, that he was
informed about iPhones being able to record and hear everything,
so he didn't want any iPhones around.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Him, and there was Was there a situation or a
conversation that you had when you got an iPhone from somebody?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
What was that conversation with a defendant?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
A woman friend of mine purchased me an iPhone and
he got upset that I had an iPhone, and then
he told me that she was probably a cop.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Did you have any other conversations with him about other
things that he thought were law enforcement or police officers.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yes, he thought helicopters were following them every He just
thought there was a constant police presidence around him at
all times.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Did you ever see him exhibit what you've described as
thinking people or police or law enforcement exhibit that in
clubs at all when you were worth.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Him, Yes, an incident that took place later in Florida.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Later in Florida.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, What about any incidents that cure with the individual
who let you in? Do you recall any incidents in
that regard?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
No, I don't recall any particular incident.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Do you recall whether or not mister Harnanders's relationship for
the person who let you into club Cure changed it
all over those next months after the murders.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't recall the exacts of that situation.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Mister Bradley, calling your attention now to any conversations that
you had with the defendant over these months following the
July sixteen, twenty twelve murders. Did he ever have a
conversation with you about what, if any way, those murders
were affecting him?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yes, he's indicated to me that he had nightmares about
what about the particular incident, this double murder?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Again?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
And did you have any conversation with him about you also,
I'm having some experiences.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yes, I told him I had a couple myself.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
During those ensuing months, mister Bradley, did you ever hear
the defendant refer to himself in a way other than
he previously referred to himself as far as nicknames? Yes,
And just to back up a little bit, what nicknames
did he have back prior to July Twelfthly sixteen, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
The only one I knew of was Chico.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Chico And what nickname did you hear him refer to
himself after July sixteen, twenty twelve, double A, double A.
And is that just two a's or is that spelled double?
The word double then a?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean I never saw him spell it, so, but
double A.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Did you have any idea what that referred to?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah? It was a direct core to this double homicide.
He gave himself the nickname.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
No, mister Bradley, your relationship you've testified with a defendant,
normalized that at some point, and you continue to hang
out with him.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Is that right correct? Why didn't you ever go to
the police.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Well at the time, I believe that would have been
equally as much trouble, I mean as he would have been.
Why is that because I was driving the vehicle when
he shot the individuals.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
And did you ever assure mister Hernandez in any way
that you would not tell anybody?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yes? I did.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I just told him at different points? You know that
I would never tell I would never tell him to.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I'm calling your attention now to February of twenty and thirteen,
So a number of months following the homicides in July
twenty twelve, was there a point where you were planning
a trip with mister Hernandez somewhere.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh, yes, I was planning on Well what was the
trick mister Hernande's plan? I was planning on going with him, Yes,
to Miami.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
What was the nature of the trip if you recall, I.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Mean the usual? You know, we went several other times
and in my mind we were just gonna go party
like we usually do.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Now at this point, sir, again, it's February twenty thirteen.
Had the defendant moved at any time between when the
murders happened and February twenty thirteen from his Plainville apartment.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yes, he moved to North Attleboro, Massachusetts.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Do you remember what the house looked like? Was it's
big small?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
It was a big house.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
It was.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Like a mini mansion.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
And are you aware of whether or not he had
a daughter in the interim between the homicides in July
twenty twelve and February thirteen.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yes, he did, Brida. Maybe approach pricial you.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
May, mister Brella, did you have the opportunity prior to

(41:24):
February thirteenth, I'm sorry, February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, to be
at the home of Aaron Hernandez in North Attleborough, the
house that you described as a mini mansion.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
How many occasions were you there in that time period.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Proximille, Are you asking me prior to February prior.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
To February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, Yes, I could, I mean
I couldn't really put a number on it. More than ten, yeah,
definitely more than ten.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
And in the times that you.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Were at the home of Aaron Hernandez in North Attleborough,
did you ever see a firearm in the house?

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yes, and the revolver or semi automatic?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Semi automatic?

Speaker 5 (42:13):
And what did the firearm look like?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
It was silver, silver, had a brown handle.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I mean, that's it.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
And where did you see it?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So it was a lock box. He used to have
this box that had a lock on it that used
to keep it.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Where was this in the house?

Speaker 4 (42:31):
In the basement, in the basement. How was it that
you were able to see that?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Because I saw him go inside the box before for
something else, and then at the firearm.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Did you ever have a conversation with him about that firearm?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yes, I don't remember exactly what was said, but he
wind up telling me it was for protection of his own.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
I'm calling your attention, mister Bradley to the trip to Florida.

Speaker 11 (42:58):
All right, before you get there, let me pause here simply,
who would start the jury.

Speaker 12 (43:05):
The testimony you've just heard relating to a semi automatic
handgun in North Attleborough. That evidence is admitted for a
very limited purpose. That evidence, if believed by the jury,
may be considered solely as it relates to the defendant's

(43:28):
access to or possession of a firearm. It is not
to be considered in any way as any evidence demonstrating
or showing either bad character or showing a propensity to
commit a crime with a handgun. Again, it's relevant only
to the extent it demonstrates the defendant's access to a

(43:51):
firearm or handgun.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Mister Hagen Raley calling your attention out to what I
believe you testify to as a trip to Miami in
February twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Do you recall what the event was that you were
going to or the reason.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
For the trip We were going down there? It was
for a super Bowl party.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Do you know who was hosting the super Bowl party?

Speaker 13 (44:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
No, I don't know the exact name of the gentleman.
It was a player from the Ravens. I can't remember
his exact name. Whose party was.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
A player from the Baltimore Ravens football team?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
And had they won the Super Bowl that year? If
you recall, yes, who went on the trip to Florida?
As far as you and mister Hernandez was it's just
the two of you, yes, And calling your attention now
to honor about February eighth, twenty thirteen. Did you fly
with mister Hernandez to Florida?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (44:40):
What part of Florida?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I believe we arrived at either West Palm Airport or
Fort Lauderdale. I'm not sure it was one of those airports.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
What was the plan, mister Bradley as far as how
long were you planning to stay down there? And were
you planning to go anywhere else afterwards?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I didn't really have a plan on how long we
were going to stay down there. And I believe that
was gonna go down there and then go with him
to Arizona after that?

Speaker 5 (45:08):
What did he have in Arizona?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
After that? He had some type of endorsement situation.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Who paid for the tickets down to Florida?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I believe he paid for the ticket to Florida.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Do you know whether or not you purchased a return
flight or he repurchased the return flight?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
To my knowledge, there was no return flight purchase.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
When you arrived at the airport, which you believe was
West Palm, did anybody greet you there and give you
a ride?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yes, some friends of mister Hernandez. Minister, what do you remember.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
About the friends as far as what they look like?
And what if any names or nicknames you recall?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I remember one guy's name was D, and I don't
recall the other gentleman who he came with. I don't
remember his name, but I know the other gentleman's name
was D.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
And when you got to the airport, the man D.
Did he appear to know mister Hernandez. Yes, Did mister
Hernanda appear to know him?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (46:20):
M yeah, that works with SAW.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
Who may.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Show your photographs? Sir?

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Do you recognize the two individuals in the photograph?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (46:41):
And who do you recognize the two individuals?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
To d uh, mister Hernandez and the guy D the
guy D. Yeah?

Speaker 10 (46:48):
Or for these photographs the next number JOD no objection
argue with that?

Speaker 9 (46:53):
You see.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Two eighty four two many.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
The individual on the left.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
That's D, sir. Yes, do you know what his occupation was?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I believe he was a football player as well, for the.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Ra team for the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
Is that whose party it was to your knowledge?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
No, the party wasn't his, but there was another player.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
So once you got picked up at the airport by D,
was there someone else there as well?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Was J?

Speaker 9 (47:33):
Just D?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
It was D in another individual, but you don't remember
that person's nickname.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
No.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Once they picked you up, where.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Did you go? We went to a hotel, straight to
a hotel.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Do you remember what the name of the hotel was
or what if any landmarks from nearby?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I think it was called spring Hill Suite or something
like that. I think that was the name of the hotel.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Do you recall whether or not the super Bowl party
was that night you arrived or later a later time
a layer date.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I believe it was the night we arrived. If not,
it was the next night, but I believe it was
the night we arrived.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Where was the super Bowl party.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
In a town called Bell Blade?

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Have you ever been to bell Glade prior to that?

Speaker 8 (48:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Do you know who of the group that you were in?

Speaker 14 (48:23):
Now?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Being mister Hernandez, D another man in yourself who was
from Bell Blade if anybody.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I believe, I believe D might have been from the
Bell Glade area. I don't know if I believed the
other individual was too that he was with.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Now up until this point, mister Bradley, had you had
any altercations or arguments with mister Hands at all?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
None?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Had you had any problems even in the months prior
to traveling to Florida with mister Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, none of any significance.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Did you go to the super Bowl party with him?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Was it at a a club or a restaurant?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Where was it? Help?

Speaker 6 (49:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
It was originally in a in a housing complex. At
first it was like a block party type of thing.
And from there we went to a hall.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Some hall, I don't know what the name of it
was or and you went there with the sir Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Did you meet some of his other friends at the party, yes?
Do you remember any of them by name?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I remember an individual named Pap Poo. I remember another
individual actually that might be it for like other than
mister Hernandez. Indeeded I met originally MM and that other.

Speaker 9 (49:46):
Yes, approach to it Sean, you may.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Showing your photographs started asking for recognize the person to
pick in that photograph?

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Yes, who do you recognize that to be Pao Papoo?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah? And just for the record, is that p A
p p o O? If you know it sounds like the.

Speaker 15 (50:27):
Said the photograph identified as pop Poo be marked as
next number to visit it, no objections to Papoo?

Speaker 16 (50:34):
Who was that attraction Papoos received?

Speaker 5 (50:46):
And what was his involvement in the party?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
So I've placed to exhibit two eighty five on the
screen the person who identified as Pappoo?

Speaker 5 (50:53):
What was his involvement in the party?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
If you know, I don't believe there was any I
believe he was just a friend of mister Hernandez, just
one of the guys around. I didn't know of any involvement.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Calling your attention now to after the super Bowl party,
did you all go back to the same hotel room?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, we stayed at the hotel I believe for definitely
the first night or two.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Who else was staying in the hotel room besides you,
some other friends.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Of mister Hernandez and the other guys names I don't
really know.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
What about the man d from the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Was he there?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (51:37):
What about Pappou?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Was he there?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yes? He didn't stay there though, but he was there.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
He didn't stay, but he visited.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, he visited.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
And the other person who picked you up at the
airport with d was he at the hotel?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (51:50):
How many other men were women?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Myself mister Hernandez. I believe that's it as far as staying,
like sleeping there.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
And calling your attention out to as you were sleeping
at that hotel room. How many nights do you think
you stayed at that hotel?

Speaker 6 (52:08):
One?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Definitely?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Did you switch hotel rooms at some point at some point, yes,
we did. Did you switch actual hotels as well, like
to go to a different hotel?

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Which hotel was at Lakinta?

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Lakinta?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Who went to a Lakinta?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Do you remember where that was in relation to any
landmarks in West Palm Beach?

Speaker 8 (52:25):
It was?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I believe it was close to a Honer's restaurant and
maybe a red Lobster too.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
At some point while you were staying overnight, either at
Lakinta or spring Hill Switees, did you see a firearm
in the room?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yes, which hotel.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Did you if you recall in spring Hill Sweeps Hotel
that first night, first day, was this after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Party or before? This was before? This is when we
first got to the hotel?

Speaker 5 (52:56):
And where did you see a firearm? And who was
around it or was asking it?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Another individual pulled it out and he passed it to
mister Hernandez. He just looked at it and.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
No, what what did the firearm look like?

Speaker 7 (53:11):
I was Jack got the ass that was complete his.

Speaker 13 (53:15):
Answer, witness and complete his answer before it was throw
up to another question.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Did you finish your last answer?

Speaker 13 (53:25):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yes, very good? What a question police?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
You saw an individual holding a gun and handed to
mister Hernandez.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
What did the gun look like?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I was black with a silver top. I believe to
the best of my knowledge it was looked like a glock.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Was it a semi automatic or a revolver?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
A semi automatic Prystol?

Speaker 5 (53:46):
And after it was handed to mister Hernandez, you indicated
he handed it back.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Or did you? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Maybe no, I don't believe I indicated that, but he
handed it to mister Hernandez and mister Hernandez looked at it.
I just remember it being left on the chair, put
down on a chair, the.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Chair in the hotel room.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, before we left.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Did you see that weapon again during your time at
the hotel?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
That particular weapon, I don't believe so.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
You see any other weapons at the hotel?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
No, that's the only weapon I saw.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
It was ja.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Did you see that weapon in any other spot other
than on the chair or in mister Hernandez's hand or
the other man saying.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I believe mister Nana's was sitting on a bed. There
was a bed. There was like a room in the
bed off to the side. I think when mister Hernanda's
first when he first passed it, mister Nanas was sitting
on the bed, so on the bed and then on
the chair pretty much.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Was there any conversation about the gun that you recall, No.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Not particularly. I mean they were just passing the gun around.
I think he was just showing it.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
After the Super Bowl party and then going and staying
overnight at a different hotel, being Lacinta, did you and
mister Hernandez continue to go to nightclubs over the next
few days.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yes, we went to.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Yes, Which nightclubs did you go to?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
That recall, Oh, we.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Went to cabaret club. We went to Tucci's cabaret.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
What is Tutsi's cabaret?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
For those who don't know, it's a strip club?

Speaker 5 (55:11):
How many knights did you go to Tutsi's?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
If you recall, we went two of the knights down there.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
The first night you went to Tutsi's.

Speaker 9 (55:18):
Who went.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Myself, mister Hernandez, the guy D and two other gentlemen,
two other friends.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Of we're either of those two friends. The same man
who picked you up at the airport, the.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Individual who picked us up from the airport. I believe
he was only there that first that they originally the
first time we went with D and mister Hernandez.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
And calling your attention now to honor about February twelfth,
two thousand and thirteen, did you go to a club
that wasn't a strip club?

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Of bar at sometimes?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (56:00):
And while you were at the bar, were you with
mister Hernandez?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Did mister Hernandez call something to your attention?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
What did he call your attention?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
He pointed out two gentlemen with low haircuts, and he
told me he thought that they were police officers. They
told me they looked like cops.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Did he say why he thought they were police officers
or why they looked like cops?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Not particularly. He just said, those dudes over there, I
think that they're cops.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I told him, if they are because of the stupid
shiit he did in Boston.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
He said, if they are, it's because he said again.

Speaker 9 (56:37):
Again, well, let me ask you, actually, what what what
do you question?

Speaker 4 (56:43):
What did you You just said your own You put
your own self into the quote. What was the quote
you heard mister Hernandez say, Now you may repeat it?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Repeat the question?

Speaker 5 (56:58):
First, what did you say to me?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
To Hernandez, I didn't say anything. First he said to
me that these guys look like police officers. Your response
was what I didn't believe they were. I said, but
if they are, and that's probably because of the stupid
shit you did in Boston. You did not.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
I just what you before that you said?

Speaker 8 (57:16):
I did?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yes, I said that you did, meaning me telling mister
Hernandez what he did.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
What was mister Hernanda's response to that? He became like
stand office, He got upset.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I could tell he kind of walked away from me
and walked over towards the bathroom area with a couple
of his other friends, and he was just, you know,
a little stand office after that.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
And did you notice that stand offishness happened after you
made the comment about Boston.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, it was right after me to comment.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
What happened the rest of that night, sir?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Nothing particularly, We finished partying at that place, we left,
and uh, I believe that was the first night we
went to Touchies. That was night one.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Call your attention out, sir to February thirteenth, twenty thirteen.
Was there the next time that you went to Tutsi's
that next day? Yes, we went the next night and
that next night, on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen, again after midnight.
Who went to Tutsi's the second time?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Myself, mister Hernandez and two other gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
The two other gentlemen had you seen them earlier in
the week.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
One of the gentlemen I did see, he was at
the hotel the first day, but the other gentleman I
hadn't seen him at all until that night.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Was it just the four of you that went to Tutsis? Yes,
and one of the gentlemen you had never seen, hadn't
seen before that night.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I didn't see him the whole time until that night.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
What car did you take to Tutsi's.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
We used a white range Rover.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Do you know whose car that was?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I don't know who owned it, but the individual who
was driving who was the same individual that was around
the first night at the hotel, arrived in a car.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Just backing you up a little bit to other cars
that you saw during that the few days in the
Palm Beach area or Miami area. What are the cars
had you seen people driving or had you driven in
during the time.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I saw a red christ of three hundred c I
believe a Porsche Panorama or it was white. I believe
that's it for cars.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Do you know where the Porsche, the white Porsche came from? Yes,
it was the gentleman D had a white Porsche D
the football player.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Do you know whether or not it was his car,
whether he rented it or what.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I believe it was a rental car.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Now, when you arrived at Tutsi's, mister Bradley, do you
know about what time it was that you arrived?

Speaker 6 (59:55):
It was.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I believe around three morning or sometime close to three.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
How late does Tutsis stay open if.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
You know five, I believe five in the morning when
you arrived at about three in the morning, just the
four of you. Did you go to a particular area
of Tutsis? Repeat that believe Did you go to a
particular part of Tutsis? In other words, did you go
to if there's a main stage error?

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Did you go to a private room?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Where did you go? We went upstairs to this to
this area where there's private rooms, and we got one
of those private rooms.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
And did you have to pay for dancers at that point?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
At that point they weren't paid for yet.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
No, but you had but you had to get that room.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
You had to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Did you have to purchase entertainment of some sort? You
have to put up some type of money like a
VIP room.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
And do you know whether or not somebody in your
group put up a credit card to pay for everything
at least initially?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yes, I believe, mister Hernandez.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Did call your attention now to later on in the night.
Did something happened with your cell phone where you needed
to charge it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yes? What happened? My cell phone was dying. I needed
I needed a charger or I asked a bottle service woman.
She was like she was giving us service in that room,
like bringing our bottles or whatever, and I asked her
she had well, I told her my phone was dying
and I was trying to find a charger, and she
said she believed she had one, and she went and

(01:01:25):
retrieved one. But it wound up being I believe maybe
I four charger, and I think I had a I
five at the time, so it didn't fit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
What did you do with your phone when it was
the last time you saw the phone?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
The last time I saw my phone was left on
the counter or that bar type. I believe I thought
I sat it down there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Now at some point towards the end of the night,
sometime close to five o'clock in the morning, did all
of you decided to leave, Yes, prior to leaving, did
the bill come yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
What was the total bill?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
If you recall, I don't recall exact themount It was
a very high bill though, meaning we believed in the
ten thousand dollar area ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 13 (01:02:09):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Was there a conversation between you and mister Hernandez about
the bill and who would pay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yes, he wanted me to split that bill with him.
What was your response to that, I didn't want to.
I mean, I didn't mind pitching in, but I didn't
want to split it because there were two other individuals
there who weren't my friends, so I didn't believe it
was fair for me to split that with him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
And did you refuse to split.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
It with it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
What happened next?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
He was upset about that, and it was you know,
it was almost time to go.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
And did you get into the car to leave at
some point?

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Was that the same white range rover you previously described?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Where were you sitting?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I was sitting in the rear passenger side.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Where was mister Hernanda sitting front passenger? And where were
the other two individuals sitting?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Almost to my left? The individual who I had I
hadn't seen up until that night was to my left,
and the other than that, the other individual was driving
whose range.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Rover was As you left the club.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Shortly after leaving Tutsi's cabaret, did you realize that you
had forgotten something?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
What did you realize you had forgotten?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Forgotten my cell phone?

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Did you say something or request that something to be done?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yes? I asked the driver to turn around so I
could go get my phone.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Did mister Hernandez join that conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yes, he was telling he objected. He told the driver
to not turn around so I could get my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
And then what did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I argument ensued. I told him I needed my phone,
it was important stuff in there, and he replied by saying,
I'll buy you another one, and I told him I
didn't want. I didn't need him to buy me another
one or want him to. I wanted my phone. I
had important stuff, my kids, pictures and other things in there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
And what was his response to that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
They just they pretty he just pretty much ignored me.
He told the driver to just keep going. I had
to turn around to get my pH.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Did you get animated at some point?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:04:03):
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I told him that I wanted my phone and that
it was it was outrageous that they want turn around
to get my phone. I got mad at everybody and just.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
At at some point did they ever turn around to
get your phone? No, they just continued on, continued on.
Where were you headed at that point? If you know,
we were headed back to West Palm to the hotel. Yes,
at some point during the car ride, mister Bradley did
you fall asleep? Yes, after falling asleep, was there something that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Woke you up? Yes, the car stopped driving.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Now with you personally, when a car stops driving, does
that have some effect on you when you sleep?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, I wake up when I fall asleep in cars
like once the car stops moving, I always wake up.
I tend to wake up.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
When you woke up from the sleep based upon the
car stopping, What did you see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Mister Hernandez with a pointing a gun in my off face?

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
When you say your face, what part of your face directly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
In my face like in my up towards my forehead area.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Was the car parked at that point or stopped in
some way?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yes, the car will stop.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
What happened next?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I made a gesture too, defense gesture to defend myself in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
For the record, you're taking your right hand and putting
it up over your face. And as you put up
the defense gesture, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
He fired a shot? He shot the gun.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Where did the bullet strike.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You went through my hand, blew my finger off, well
part way off and then and way into my head
and blew my eye out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Where did it enter your head?

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Right above my left lie right between your two eyes. Yeah,
up to the left near your nose, yep. And do
you have a you have a scar there where the
bullet entered. Correct, Can you point to it please?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
That's right here the record.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
You're pointing in between and between my eyes, in between
both eyebrows.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah, in between my eyebrows.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
You say it blew your eye out, which I did, traveled.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Across and blew his eye out. My right eyes prosthetic,
so traveled across.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
So the aye you have now in the right that's
a fake eyes. Yes, when this gunshot went off? What
did you feel.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
When it first went off? I just remember my ears
were ringing, and then I know whoever this individual was
to my left. I remember him trying to like push
me out the car, and that's pretty much.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Did you Did you wake up to find yourself on
the ground outside of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I mean I was still awake at that point.
I was never a sleep, but yes, I was outside
the car. What did you see, mister hernandez leg hanging well?
When I rode over to a fence when I first
got pushed out the car, I rode over and there
was a fence, and there was the fence to kind

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of pull myself up, and mister Hernandez's leg was hanging
out the driver's side door. The car was pulling off
with his leg outside.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Of the door.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
How could you tell it was his like?

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Because he was the only light skinned, light a complex
the guy than in myself in the car.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
The other two men in the car, they were African American? Yes,
and what skin tone?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Dark skinned males?

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Now, how did you get out of the get out
of the car. Was it just that the person to
your left pushed you or push me?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
And I believe mister Hernandez assisted him.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
How did that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
How was that done?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Because he got out of the excuse me, he got
out of the front passenger side and helped that man.
The guy was pushing me on my left. They were
trying to pull me out the car and leave me there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
They both pulled you out of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yes, mister Nandez helped that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
When you fell to the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Were you bleeding?

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Could you see out of your right eye?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
No, I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Could you see even out of your very well out
of your left eye?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, I could see pretty well out of my left eye.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
The car that pulled away was at the same white suv.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Correct what happened next to her?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I was I walked to the end of an alley.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
You walked, you were able to get up?

Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I got to my feet from the fence and I
walked to the end of an alley kind of to
the end. It was like a parking lot. Off to
the left. It was a warehouse there, and a guy
came out, and well, actually before the guy came out,
I wound up laying down. I stumbled my way to
the end of the alley and my head started hurting.
I was getting a headache. And when I laid down,

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I know that, like my head didn't hurt anymore. Like
when I laid down on my arm, my head stopped hurting.
So I kind of just laid there, and this gentleman
came out and he was like asking me if I
was okay or whatever, and that was he wind up
calling the ambulance or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
How long did it take for the ambulance or or
the police CAEP to get there?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Twenty plus minutes, over twenty minutes. And were you in pain? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Were you bleeding?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Did you say anything to the men that came to
find you? The men that you said came out to
help you or the man that came to help you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
What did you recall saying to him?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I recalled saying not too much? I think I remember.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Do you remember if he asked you, who would if
you knew who shot you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:09:37):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
I said? I said a hiss? And then I cut
myself off in the middle and said, I just said
two black males.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
At some point, did police officers arrive at the scene, yes?
And did they also ask you if you knew who
shot you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
At that scene? I believe I don't remember much after
at that scene.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Do you mean at the scene right there?

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
Mm?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah, someone did. Whoever that guy was that asked me?

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
And did you tell them who had shot you?

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Why not? Cause I didn't. I didn't want to tell
I had That's not the route I wanted to take.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
What do you mean by that's not the route you
wanted to take?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I didn't. I didn't want to tell on mister Hernandez.
I didn't want to inform him that he shot me.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
What route did you intend to take?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I wanted revenge? I didn't. I didn't want to tell
on him.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
I wanted to make it even were you taken from
the scene to the hospital. Yes, what happened at the hospital?
How serious were your injuries?

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
To my knowledge, they were pretty serious. I know I
had some head trauma, missing eye, and I know I
had like a surgery or something, and I just remember
waking up. I think it was maybe almost a day later.
I woke up some hours down the line, definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
How many surgeries did you have, if.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
You know total? I think I've had three totally.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
And your right eye was that basically removed by the
bullet or did the surgeons have to remove.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
It the bullet? From my understanding, the bullet removed such
a large portion of it that they just, you know,
whatever was left, they just took it out. I mean,
it was never gonna work again, so they just removed it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Now, when you woke up at the hospital after what
you've just described was defending Aaron Hernandez, there no were
any of his friends there.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Did you ever receive a phone call at the hospital
from Aaron Hernandez while you were there?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
No, I called mister Hernandez while I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Tell us about the phone call to Aaron Hernandez. When
you woke up that next morning, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Called him and I said what's up? And he said,
who's this?

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
And what did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I was like, you know what this is, like, it's me,
it's your boy, like with a sarcastic tone.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
What was his his tone?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
He hung up, He hung up, hung the phone up,
and I called him right back again and did the answer. Yeah,
he was like he's playing dumb. He was like uh huh,
like he wasn't really saying too much, and he hung
up again, and I called him back again and I
told him, I don't know why you keep hanging his
phone up, because it's not like I told the police

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on you, you know, like I ain't telling you like
you know what time it is when I when I
get right coming back home, you know what time it is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Did you know where he was at that point, if
you're do, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Didn't know for a fact, but he said he was,
I'm still down here chilling, suning along those lines.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Did he seem surprised to hear from me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Oh, he was definitely surprised when he heard from me.
When you say that, because just from knowing mister Hernandez
in the tone he was using, he was like, huh huh,
like who's this? He was shot? He definitely didn't think
I was alive still.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Kay first w A.

Speaker 9 (01:13:36):
Yaw you may.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
D s.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
I'm gonna show your photograph and ask you if you
recognize a person that photograph.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Yeah, that's myself?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
When, uh, do you know about when this photograph is taken?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
How to be right after I got shot in the hospital?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Is this a picture of you actually laying in the
in the hospit, little bet?

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:14:01):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Does this fairly and accurately reflect the injuries that you
sustained on February thirteenth, year, twenty twelve after being shot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
By mister Hernandez Ye?

Speaker 10 (01:14:09):
Yes, it does run off for this photograph the next
number to do it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
You have no objection that object from that you see.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
Yes, mister Bradler, not placing on the gallery and just

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placing it on your screen. Was that that the photograph
you identified?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
And that's you shortly after being shot?

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
Mm hmm, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
At some point were you visited by Palm Beach County
homicide detectives?

Speaker 18 (01:15:06):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Were you aware of why homicide detectives were called out
to talk to you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yes? Why was that, sir, they wanted to investigate me
being shot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Did they indicate to you that they didn't think you
were going to survive?

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
They did.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Did you give a recorded statement to a detective from
your hospital bit, Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:15:26):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Did you agree to cooperate?

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
No? I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Why not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Because that's not the route. That's not the route I
wanted to go. I didn't want to cooperate with the police.
I wanted mister Hernandez this his life.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Mister Bradley, I want to back up a little bit.
You indicated that you told the defendant that you did
not tell the police what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
I believe you also testified before lunch that when the
detectives came, you gave them statements indicating you wouldn't cooperate
or didn't know who shot you.

Speaker 10 (01:15:58):
Was that actor?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Have you had an opportunity to listen to those recordings before, sir,
of your voice talking to police officers, both at the
scene and ultimately at the hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
At this time, I believe, without objection, you're on.

Speaker 18 (01:16:13):
I'd like to.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
Introduce the record of statements of mister.

Speaker 15 (01:16:16):
Bradley on February thirteenth and fourteenth, twenty thirteenth for law enforcement.

Speaker 10 (01:16:22):
We believe with objections objections.

Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
With that objection, let's acave them.

Speaker 16 (01:16:27):
Checker is two eighty six, seven to eighty seven.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:16:39):
Let's mark at prob we worry thirteen to eighty week
from February fourteen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
It's rather before we play Exhibit two eighty seven. I
believe you testified prior to lunch break that when you
were on the ground after being shot, that you saw
mister Fernandez's leg in the car.

Speaker 10 (01:17:29):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
His leg was outside of the car?

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Which door was his leg coming into?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Front passenger?

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Front passenger? What did you know about the area where
you now found yourself shot? What type of area was it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It was an industrial area?

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
An industrial area.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Yes, do you recall what you were wearing that night
as far as headwear in particular.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I believe I had on a black tea sure, uh,
ten cargo pants and a Bulls fitted out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
I'm sorry you'd help you repeat that, uh strapped up everything?

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yes, I had a black T shirt, ten cargo pants,
and the Chicago Bulls hat. I believe repart your winning shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Let's gonna show you three photographs, two photographs of what
appears to be a baseball cap. First, you recognize those
two photographs there?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
And what do you recognize that to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Be Chicago Bulls fitty Cat basketball?

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Is that the baseball hat that you were wearing when
you were shot on February thirteenth, year, two thousand and thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Yes, you gotta offer the two photographs of.

Speaker 15 (01:19:25):
The fitted bold baseball cap. I have to see in
this next number of exis objec.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Let's receive them two eighty nine A and B.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
So I'm showing you a second photograph. Do you recognize
the arment that's depicted in that photograph?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
And what do you recognize that to be? Those are
the pints that I will cargo shorts you were wearing
on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen when you were shot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Correct?

Speaker 10 (01:20:10):
You going off from the photograph of the cargo pants.
In the next number, the group.

Speaker 9 (01:20:15):
Was out a trick.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Place and mister Bradley, you indicated that after being shot
you grabbed onto a fence. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
Can you describe what you did when you grabbed onto
the fence and if you were still bleeding and from
where at that time?

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Well, I was just shot and I grabbed onto the
fence to kind of get up to pull myself up
after being thrown out of the car.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Were you dripping blood at that time?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
I believe I had blood everywhere and you were.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
Bleeding when you were near that fence.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
And did you actually get yourself up near the fence?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
So I'm placing on the screen when financial has Exhibit
two eighty nine this year stirs up the baseball cap
that you were wearing, the bulls hat. Yes, And this

(01:21:32):
fence here, is that the fence that you grabbed onto. Yes,
listenings of it to eighty nine A. Is that a
close up photograph of the baseball hat?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Yes? Did you say that was a bull's hat? Yes?
This is Chicago Bulls baseball at basketball basketball? I said basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
You did.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Just get hacking.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
So I'm just gonna place Exhibit two eighty nine B
back on the screen for a moment in the area
that I've zoomed into, Sir, did did you bleed in
that area?

Speaker 18 (01:22:12):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
This seems a two ninety on the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Those are your cargo shorts. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Correct?

Speaker 14 (01:22:32):
Mm hmm, it's a brother.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
I'm gonna play Exhibit two eighty seven.

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
What do they look like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (01:23:55):
Problem pell you're a sugar to your two boy?

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
You heard.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
Whose voice is that saying? It hurts so much to talk?

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
That's my that's my voice all right?

Speaker 6 (01:24:09):
The way you uh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Let me let me stop you there, sir? What did
you start to say there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I was starting to say hispanic, and then I stopped
in the middle and just said, big.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Black man, why did you say that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Because I didn't want to tell.

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
Him what not?

Speaker 8 (01:24:55):
Remember?

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
What about it?

Speaker 8 (01:25:01):
By whatever story? Ye?

Speaker 19 (01:26:59):
Your mencious just during the whole time, to your best
of your memory.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Up until a certain point in an ambulance, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
And what point was that? If you recall.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Sometime into the middle of the ride.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
When was the next uh time you woke up after
that losing your conscience?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
I was in the hospital. I woke up to another
interview by more shares from It's motive.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
For the record, I'm gonna place in the computer exhibit
number two eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
I'll be the gole just before you got a shot?

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Who are you with? It's not musically, so we all
do this fair.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Proby pers you just said, I have no information for you, sir,
with all due respect, Who is that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
A detective from Florida. I don't know his name.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
The person talking to you is detective, yes, but the
voice had just said I have no information for you, sir,
with all due respect, who is that?

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
That was me? Operator living investigation. You don't want to
investigate it or you just don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
I don't know, but it's just fair liking.

Speaker 9 (01:28:58):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Please you.

Speaker 7 (01:29:04):
Hope you don't see that they will manas you. Definitely
nothing that's type to show.

Speaker 13 (01:29:07):
How can you know?

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
I mean it would do stufs you gots you have
to do. I just say, have no loop fee minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I can tell where were you the night before? Sir?

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
I don't sometimes the language telling domits.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
I know about it.

Speaker 20 (01:29:22):
So what' clock were you at? You're at old calls
and you had it's something on your arm? I said,
next lot in your car lest here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
And you don't have it now. I'm sure they'll moved
if you have it on yesterday morning. Yeah, but it's
no call you were at.

Speaker 7 (01:29:36):
I didn't go to the next clup club for the
next over, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
We know where you're at a clam.

Speaker 20 (01:29:43):
So the water close down here thing you go in
and then they have all the places in going pain,
you go up and you get you. I know certain
it's a good test, not as a standard which is
just a cloud.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Are you gonna You don't even know where you were?

Speaker 9 (01:30:01):
And I before I didn't know where I was?

Speaker 20 (01:30:04):
Okay, So what can you give me that I'll be
thought to find the people that interstrat you do?

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
I mean ansof to you. You're a big boy if
you want he's a plucky lass who don't do it
well obviously. I mean you got a big alp hole
in your head. Yeah, and so I mean that's up
to you. You can you help me because you don't
where you were? You know what happened to me? You
can tell me or you can tell me.

Speaker 21 (01:30:31):
That just like you said a half off and know
you straight a tap off for you may. I'm just
I have to pointly trying to give you the I'll
misslects to you by any meanings. Perhaps I'm not saying
the box wrong, like fuck you what I'm just saying
that you I ain't telling you I'll know about you, okay,
So you don't want to cookery or the leg.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
It's really what I'm just stopping the exhibit at two
minutes in eighteen seconds?

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
What did you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
I don't want to tell nobody said, I'm not telling
them anybody?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
And what does that mean that I wasn't gonna I
wasn't gonna tell them. That's that's not what I'm into.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
And what do you mean by that's not what you're into?
Is that some type of code?

Speaker 17 (01:31:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I mean, I just that's just that is not the
way I want to handle it. That's not what I've
ever done before. That's not how I normally that type
of betrayal. I just wanted to make it either. I
didn't want to tell on them. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
You don't want to cooperate investigating. If I don't have
a victim, I don't have a time, that's that's up
to you. I mean, if you're don't, you're thinking look
ahead and if you want to get shots, you're lit.
It actually was whet share those are and I don't
do that And that's your choice, not mine. Where you

(01:31:43):
understand that sound, then then I'll strew up. Then they
shoot better. You see, you got it. So what I'm
gonna do is I'm gonna do on a car, all right, and.

Speaker 20 (01:31:54):
That sign that phone number on that if you designed
that you want to tell on somebody so that they
don't kill you the next time, because you're so you
don't really know why I got called instive.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
You're supposed to die yes day, So that's your choice,
bro say, I can't make you cooperate with you if
you don't want.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
You, I can ask you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
You know what, I try to get the attention filling
off the shooter that I need to kill it. But
if you don't help, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
On you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
As what I'm saying. And then if you want to change.

Speaker 20 (01:32:26):
Your mind at any time, anytime, you can call me
and I'll be more than ative to take this tape
and Walt, that's Harry whoever did to see right, and
you just.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Always remember and if you take care of this later,
they did not get you the same courtesy of given them.

Speaker 20 (01:32:41):
Well, so if you feel that somebody about later you
have you Bollie met somebody else.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
Them if you won't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
All so that's your joyous. I want you to know
you don't want to kindad of get it, and I'll.

Speaker 6 (01:32:56):
Want you to note even I.

Speaker 13 (01:33:03):
M oh, I'm sorry something that I was shared or
now you was befols.

Speaker 6 (01:33:21):
Yeh a h, my god, I was thriving you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
You want you get a look on your car. I
think you'll figure where you at? That that wasn't a
smart things than eyes saw?

Speaker 6 (01:33:35):
Fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
No, I don know what you should have to look
to what he said that he sir? Living? You though
that spell?

Speaker 18 (01:33:41):
Get it?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
How long would you? What do you think about want?

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
And did you say I knew?

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Why am I do? I bet?

Speaker 13 (01:33:52):
Here to flus?

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Where you live? And are you living now in an alley?

Speaker 8 (01:33:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
I'll do whead of plus.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
So your phone kind of get this? Where you got
that god only drug?

Speaker 13 (01:34:02):
Hell?

Speaker 9 (01:34:02):
Fo doctor?

Speaker 17 (01:34:04):
Look here drogs to Connecticut nineteen dollars a draft in
that one United.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
So I think I let the Hessian research wild life. Yeah,
think about your phone on me? He's how on that?
Say zero?

Speaker 20 (01:34:21):
Yep, three two hip to my vactory two nine nine
thirty Ye forget that the phone that you have down here?

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
No, I don't have four. You don't have a phone.
So if you didn't know you have nine thousand sif
you've been down it, no.

Speaker 7 (01:34:35):
I'll that's we'll do, okay, well, number of judge, this
got that's my content member, that's my house.

Speaker 17 (01:34:40):
You got your house number, any one pretty must go
to he've got me. I mean he's more all right,
I'll tell you give me the fact it's worth six
in part cast on it's thirteen nuys verty seven until
he's fim the third stay.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
The Saint Mary. He said, I see you know.

Speaker 17 (01:35:00):
Brooms foo golf sort or at the were they in
fourteen two thousand?

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Then thirteen.

Speaker 18 (01:35:09):
Ending the time?

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
And was thirteen and filing four hours? You meet what
the name sir Bradley?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Did you ever ultimately cooperate with the Palm Beach County
law enforcement regarding your shooting being shot in the face?

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Never?

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Did they ever contact you about your.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Clothing that they seized pursuing to the investigate.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Yes they did.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
What did they ask you and what was your response?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Are you asking me before I left the state of Florida?
Are you talking about that?

Speaker 8 (01:35:44):
Or yes?

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
Before you left?

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
They they kept my ID and my clothing. I feel
as a way cause I couldn't leave the state without
my ID, so they kept my clothing and I had
to go down the department to get my clothes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
At some point did they release your clothes to you
or did they contact you about your clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
I believe when I went to the station they said
they were keeping them for evidence. Maybe I don't. I
can't recall it. I don't believe they ever released them
to me.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
Did they ever call you about releasing the clothes if
you remember?

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Not that I recall.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Now, what about your cellular phone? Mister Bradley, believe you
indicated that you thought you left it at Toutsi's cabaret.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
Is that correct?

Speaker 18 (01:36:29):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
Did you ever receive that cell phone and from anybody?

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
Do you have any idea what happened to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
That cell phone? None, whatsoever, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
When you traveled to Florida with the defendant, mister Hernandez,
did you have luggage with your clothing, bags, that type
of thing.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
What did you bring with you to Florida?

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Myself and the clothes that I was in.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
You didn't bring any bags?

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Yeah, we brought bags, and we wind up leaving them
inside the vehicle we drove there in because we were
running late, so we didn't want to take the time
to try to love the bags. It was faster to
just go in and just go to the airport.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
And did you ever see your bags of clothing? Afterwards, nod.
Did the clothing ever get to the hotel to your knowledge,
either of the hotels?

Speaker 8 (01:37:15):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
So the last time you saw your clothing was in
a car.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Yes, the clothes that I are you asking me about
the clothes that I came into airport with?

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
And which car was that?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
It was a rented Chevy Suburban, I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
And you have no idea where those clothes were that
you brought down in a bag. No, calling your attention
to at some point you were released from.

Speaker 5 (01:37:44):
The hospital, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
And did you go back to Connecticut?

Speaker 18 (01:37:48):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
When you went back to Connecticut, did you have to
go back down the Florida for more surgery?

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
How many surgeries?

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
One one more that I can remember, may have been
to one, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Mister Bradley, What was the nature of any further contact
you had with the defendant, mister Hernandez after you were
shot and ultimately released from the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
It ranged from I mean, there was some conversation about
me telling him he needed to compensate me for what
he did. There was other conversation about me trying to
get him to meet up with me so we can
handle it the way I wanted to. It was a
wide range of conversations.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
These conversations, mister Bradley, Did they take place by text message,
phone call or both?

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Both predominantly text messages though?

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
And did the text messages start in February of twenty
thirteen or after that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Well, it was after February thirteen, of February thirteenth, I
should say they begin after that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
But in the month of you already you started to
text him.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I'm not exactly sure. I know there was some in March.
I'm not sure if they was something in February.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Now, at some point you indicated that you not only
threatened to get back at and get revenge, but you
also threatened to sue him.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
What did you threaten in that regard?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
I threatened tossue him, I mean, that's the answer. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Did you convey that in text message?

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Did I convey that? Yes? I did. And did you have.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Multiple text messages back and forth with the defendant mister
Hernandez about wanting to sue him and or get revenge on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Him, Yes, extensively.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Did he respond to some.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Of the text messages?

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
Some he did.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
In addition to the text messages. Did you occasionally have
phone calls with the defendant over the next three months, Yes,
and describe some of the phone calls that you had
with the defendant during those three months.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
They will have the same nature, addressing the issue of
him compensating me, asking him to meet up with me,
all the same stuff, and mister.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Brodland calling your attention now to a time much later,
calling your attention now to August into September October of
two thousand and thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
Were you eventually contacted.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
By law enforcement about your knowledge of the events of
July sixteenth, year twenty twelve career and at some point
where you served with an out of state subpoena to
appear before Suffolk County grand jury investigating that case.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Yes, now, prior to receiving.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
That subpoena, had you watched news reports regarding the incident
from July sixteen, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Yes, some, I don't recall. If there were some Internet things, yeah,
some news indirectly.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
Yes, call your attention out specifically to any news that
you saw about the alleged recovery of the murder weapon.
Had you seen some broadcasts on the news prior to
getting the subpoena to come to Suffol Superior Court.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
And what was the information that was conveyed to you,
at least through the media about whether or not the
murder weapon had allegedly been recovered.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
I believe it was stated in the media some way
that the murder weapon was recovered.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
And were you with anybody when you saw that on
the media?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Yes, I believe I was in the presence of my
daughter and mother, which daughter's mother, Brooke Wilcox.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
And did you say something to miss Wilcox when you
saw that on the news?

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Yes, I did. I believe I said to her that
TechEd us uh stayed at this stage.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
You got a memory press, agree, mister Bredy at some
point after seeing that news report. Did you were you
asked to appear in Connecticut relative to the out of

(01:42:19):
state subpoena? Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
And did you appear when you were supposed to?

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
And to your knowledge, mister Bradley, was a warrant issued
for your apprehension to appear on the out of state
subpoena to the Suffolk Kind of Grand Jury.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
And in fact, in October of twenty thirteen, where you
arrested pursuing to the out of state subpoena process that
you had not appeared on.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
In addition to that charge of not appearing on the
out of state subpoena where you also charged with violating
a protective order that on that date.

Speaker 18 (01:42:52):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
What was that in relation to Sir I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Was in relations I was in. I was apprehended in
the place that I wasn't supposed to be at.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
And was that a certain was that Miss Wilcox's address?

Speaker 6 (01:43:04):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Now, after appearing in court on those two charges won
the failure to appear and the violation of restraining order,
did you ultimately.

Speaker 5 (01:43:16):
They brought to the Suffolk Superior Court here in Boston, Massachusetts.

Speaker 18 (01:43:19):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
And when you were brought here in October, on October
eighth of twenty and thirteen, were represented by council.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
And ultimately on that date, mister Bradley, following what's referred
to as a proffer agreement, did you provide a multiple
hour statement to Boston Police detectives about the events of
July sixteen, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
And when you provided that statement, mister Bradley, again, where
you might did you have knowledge of the report that
the murder weapon had been recovered from a certain woman. Yes,
following your two multiple hours statement to detectives, where were
you given any immunity at that point?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
At that point turn an interview? No, it wasn't an.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Ultimately, sir, On that date, did you sign an agreement
that laid out the terms of your cooperation if it
was determined that you would cooperate? Yes, all right, approach
what it's run you believe?

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Where I believe you consisted with Chapel but with council agreement. Uh,
the e commoper seek to introduce the cooperation agreement with
mister Bradley.

Speaker 10 (01:44:57):
Again, it shouldn't be on the director of leading us
to a guess A SENTI te an even she.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Which side mark.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Is that your signature on the third page there?

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
Is this the agreement that you signed on October eight,
twenty thirteen, correct? It is and your attorney signed it
as well as that correct grass that the document be marked.

Speaker 12 (01:45:25):
For identification only at this point objections that will be
a received for identification?

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Fancy what are we up to?

Speaker 9 (01:45:38):
Thank you, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
During the course of that recorded statement that you gave
to detectives on October eighth year two thousand and thirteen.
Did you also give information relative to your best knowledge
of phone numbers with certain people at her around that date?
I believe I did, just calling your attention to Exhibit
two forty nine c the number five six, two four

(01:46:22):
eight one eight one oh six. Do you recall indicating
that that number looks familiar as belonging to someone you know?

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
Yes, I believe that was the number. Mister Harnad has
had it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
And for the record, we're at July fifteenth, twenty twelve,
number of phone calls. There's another number here, eight six
zero four six two eight three zero. Did you ever
indicate that that number looked familiar to you?

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Yes? I believe that that was my phone number. I'm sorry, Yes,
I believe it was my phone number. Your phone number.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Interesting, And mister Bradley, did you how frequently would you
change phone numbers back in two thousand twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
At least I'd like to believe once a month, uh
some around that time, sometime sooner, maybe sometimes a little later.
We're usually her every month.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Why was that, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Because I was the way I was living. I was
selling drugs, so I didn't wanna keep the same phone
number all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
And the phone numbers would they be in your name
or in other people's names?

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
There were nobody's name, They would just prepay just burner phone.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
Burner phones, is that yes?

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Yes, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:47:52):
Following the the homicides of July sixteenth, two thousand and twelve,
did you ever know the defendant, uh Aaron Hernandez to
use burner phones?

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
No? Not much?

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
What do you mean by not much?

Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
Not?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
I don't recall it. Too many burner phones.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
Now, mister Hernandez. M I mean, I'm sorry, mister mister
Bradlin calling your attention now to a particular photograph. It's
being exhibit number two hundred and one. Do you recognize
the person this photograph?

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Yes? I know who he is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
And who is he?

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
That's John Alcorn?

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
And how did you know John Alcorn?

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
I D I didn't really know him. I just know
of him. I just seen him around before.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
Have you ever had a conversation with him?

Speaker 6 (01:48:42):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:48:43):
Ever in your life?

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Never in my life?

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
And how did you know of him?

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
Just through other people in town?

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
It's like I I know him at Chicago so and
he J You never had a conversation with him?

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Never in my life.

Speaker 5 (01:48:58):
Place he on the screen Bradley, Exhibit two hundred and eleven.
Do you know the woman in this photograph?

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Have you ever seen her before? No, I have not,
mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
At some point after you gave a statement to investigators
investigating detectives on this matter, did they come to you
and show you some photographic arrays to see if you
could identify the person who was driving the car when
you were shot on July I'm sorry, on February thirteenth,
year twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
Yes, refrutuating's wrong, right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
I'm going to show you a document appears to have
photographs on one side and some handwriting on the backside.
First of all, do you recognize the handwriting on the back?

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:50:24):
Whose handwriting is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
At it's my hand running.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
I'm calling your attention out to February eleventh, the year
twenty fourteen. When was this a series of photographs shown
to you by Boston Police homicide detectives. Yes, And from
the photographs that were shown to you six individuals, did
you identify somebody as somebody recognized?

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
And which number on the photographic array, number three and
number three in the photographic array. Who did you identify
that person to be?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
That was individual who was driving in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
The individual was driving the car the night you were
shot in Florida on February thirteenth, twenty thirteen career and
the individual was driving you and who else at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Mister Hernandez and another individual as well.

Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
Mister Bridler is showing you a document that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
That is with it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:19):
You recognize a signature on this form?

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
And is this a witness preparation form that was read
to you by detectives prior to.

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
You viewing the photographic array?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
And your signature is on this document as well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
The date is what'sir to eleven fourteen in the time
one pm?

Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
Gronoffer's photographic array and the witness Treparations forms.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
The next number of.

Speaker 10 (01:51:46):
Exisits the home see the document you see the forward it?

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
I would object to the document another.

Speaker 9 (01:52:08):
Bottom see you what shide.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
Bar believe I read it myself already? Had me read
it or you read I was notified.

Speaker 16 (01:52:17):
Of the form.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
I'm believe another and did you read all the lines
of the forum before signing it?

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:52:23):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Sickt introduced both the documents.

Speaker 9 (01:52:25):
The next number the mites.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Alright, did why don't you make the worry?

Speaker 12 (01:52:29):
It's the two as this companion for two minty void b.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
Oh stick.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
Just placing you show at two hundred ninety one A
on the screen. Number three?

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Is that the individual you identified as the driver of
the car when you were shot in February thirteen, twenty thirteen. Correct,
And that's your signature on the back of the form, sir. Yes,

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mister Bradley. Since that date, have detective shown you various
other photographs that show you show the person who was
driving the car the night that you were shot.

Speaker 18 (01:54:03):
Yes, de kerchu winsaw you banks, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
Funny, did you recognize that?

Speaker 6 (01:54:18):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
What was that photograph shown to you by detectives many
months following your identification of slot number three the person
who was driving the car? Yes, and we're able to
identify the person driving a car in this photograph?

Speaker 5 (01:54:30):
Yes, which one is it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Sir, gentleman in the middle with the light green pants.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
And that's the individual who was driving a car in
February thirteenth, twenty thirteen. Yes, And the white car that
the person seems to be sitting on does that look
familiar to it?

Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
You guys, it appears to be the car that I
was picked up from the airport in.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
And what kind of car is that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Porsche?

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
White?

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
Porsche?

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
And the individual with the New York Yankees hat on
next to the person you identified as a driver, is
that uh D correct? If the photograph is the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
Next number to do it?

Speaker 14 (01:55:08):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Deaf?

Speaker 9 (01:55:09):
Without a direction except the two?

Speaker 10 (01:55:10):
Maybe two.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
Cause he's there two ninety two on the screen. Individual
here uh is the driver is act correct?

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
And this person here.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
It's d.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
Mister Bradley calling your attention to the information that you
provided to detectives on October eighth, twenty and thirteen. At
some point where you asked to describe where you parked
the car, the silver for Runner SUV prior to the incident,
the shooting of the two men on the corner of

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Herald Street and Shaman Avenue.

Speaker 18 (01:56:24):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
And at some point during the conversation with detectives when
you came to the Suffolk Superior Court, did you look
at what's called a Google street view to show the
detectives where you parked the car and then ultimately what
direction the car went up until the murder and then
after the shootings. Yes, and you've had a chance to

(01:56:46):
see that video since testifying, is that correct?

Speaker 18 (01:56:49):
Correct?

Speaker 15 (01:56:50):
At this time, compen seek to introduce the street view
that was viewed by Alexander Bradley in twenty thirteen as
the next hundred exhibit.

Speaker 21 (01:57:00):
I haven't ever seen that, But if mister Reagan represents that,
I don't know us thout that stillet.

Speaker 9 (01:57:07):
But two ninety two, mister.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
Trader, before he plays Exhibit two ninety, I believe it's
two ninety three, ninety three, two ninety three in for
viewing at any point that night. I'm calling your attention
back to July sixteenth, year twenty twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Was there ever a woman in the car?

Speaker 17 (01:57:51):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
I'm sorry No, Was there ever anybody in the Forerunner
other than you and mister Hernandez. No, when you were
in the car at the time of the shooting, was
mister Hernandez still wearing those rosary beads that we saw
in the photographs earlier?

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I believe so.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
When he leaned over you as you described the shooting
taking place with the rosary beads hanging down.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
I don't recall.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
Mister Bradley placed Exhibit two ninety three on the screen.
Do you recognize the intersection has depicted here, sir, Yes,
in the area where I have the curs or is
that club care?

Speaker 7 (01:58:57):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Then, mister Bradley, I have stopped at thirty seconds into
Exhibit two ninety three. When you watched this street your
video with detectives and prosecutors in two thousand thirteen, did
you point out this area as an area that you recognized?

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
And what area was that? How did you recognize it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
I recognized it as the area where I parked the
suv prior to your shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
And did you even recognize it these articles here that
are attached to the to the wall, Yes, we did.
And the meter areas that we see here? Is that
the area where you park the suv on July sixteenth,
twenty twelve. Yes, And where we stop now at thirty

(02:00:24):
six seconds? Is this the direction that you walked back
up after parking. Yes, mister Bradley. The intersection where we're

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stopped now at a minute fifteen seconds. What intersection was
at in relation to the homicide?

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
That's the intersection where the homicide actually occurred, or but
bright before where the homicide occurred. I'm sorry, is this
a stop?

Speaker 5 (02:01:41):
Late that you described passing a another car around.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:02:05):
Now, mister Bradley, I believe you testified that initially after
the shooting you took a right going the wrong way.

Speaker 5 (02:02:12):
Can you show on the screen? Uh, which which way
you went?

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
My right right here, I said one way.

Speaker 5 (02:02:21):
So you took a right hand turn going this direction?

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
Did you then loop back around?

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
The direction that we see going now two minutes and
seven seconds on the street view video. Is that the
direction that you fled in the suv while driving. Yes,

(02:03:50):
mister brother, we last saw on that was at the
area where you jumped out or got onto the highway
in the suv.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
Yes, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
If you recall what the nickname was of the man
who was driving the car at the time that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
You were shot, Jay, I believe JP or Jay something
like that.

Speaker 9 (02:04:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04:37):
And mister Bradley's a fair to state that ten days
after you gave a statement on recording on October eight
two thousand thirteen, on October eighteenth, two thousand thirteen, ten
days later, you were brought back to the Suffolk County
Superior Courthouse. Coreer, Is it fair to state that it
was not until that day that you were ultimately given

(02:04:59):
what's called immunity pursuant to your testimony.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
In this case.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
Correct, And when you gave the statement though ten days prior,
had you been given immunity at that time?

Speaker 13 (02:05:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:05:12):
Had you been promised at that time that you would
not be prosecuted at that point?

Speaker 8 (02:05:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
And mister Bradley municated that at some point in twenty thirteen,
after you were shot down in Florida, you engage in
a series of text message communications with the defendant, Aaron Hernandez, Correct.
And the phone number that you would text him on
at least at that point, do you recall what number
that was?

Speaker 2 (02:05:58):
So zero three six zero six eight ninety sixty nine.
I believe.

Speaker 4 (02:06:07):
It was a bit two forty nine. The number you
said it was two zero three six oh six eight
nine sixty nine. Is that the number we see here?

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (02:06:30):
Now, mister Bradley.

Speaker 4 (02:06:31):
Prior to coming into the Suffolk County Superior Court and
giving the multiple hour recorded statement, were you held in
custody in Connecticut?

Speaker 6 (02:06:42):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:06:43):
And did you make jail recorded phone calls while in custody,
in particular to your baby's mother, Burke Wilcox.

Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
And did you make certain statements on those recorded calls.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (02:06:56):
Did you know the phone calls were being recorded?

Speaker 2 (02:06:59):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:07:00):
Did you say things intentionally on the phone calls knowing
that they.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
Were being recorded, yes, at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:07:07):
And did you say things on the phone calls that
were factually inaccurate?

Speaker 18 (02:07:13):
Rephrase?

Speaker 5 (02:07:15):
What what did you say on those phone calls, sir?

Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
If you recall, Oh, I recall saying I don't know
why you why you guys were looking for me, or
saying something along the lines of a lot I don't
have any information for you guys. And there was another
call further down the road where I recall telling her
just tell you guys the truth.

Speaker 4 (02:07:36):
Just so you remember being on a recorded call saying
that you didn't know anything about why you were being
brought to Boston?

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:07:44):
Was that true?

Speaker 13 (02:07:45):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:07:46):
And why did you say that on the call?

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Because I don't want to incriminate myself.

Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
But did you know it was being recorded?

Speaker 18 (02:07:53):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
Did they Is there anything on the phone call that
tells you it's being recorded before you have the phone call?

Speaker 13 (02:07:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:07:59):
Is this sign that says just recorded?

Speaker 4 (02:08:04):
I believe you indicated that there was a follow up
phone call where you told you gave.

Speaker 5 (02:08:07):
Some instruction to Brooke Wilcox. Yes, what was that instruction?

Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
I told her that. Did you guys come to talk
to her for her to just tell you, guys, it's
true that was recorded as well. Correct.

Speaker 4 (02:08:19):
As far as you being held for the violation of
a restraining order charge where they arrested you on the
summons to appear on this case, did the Suffolk County
District Attorney's Office or Boston Police ever do anything.

Speaker 5 (02:08:33):
To get you out of custody?

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (02:08:35):
Did you ever ask to be gotten out of custody
by the suffoc County Dier's Office of the Boston Police.

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
No, And in fact, mister.

Speaker 4 (02:08:45):
Bradley, other than the immunity agreement that was ultimately reached
between you and Suffolk County District Attorney's Office, has the
Suffa County District Attorney's Office done anything else for you
relative to criminal matters?

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
Nothing at all.

Speaker 5 (02:08:57):
Have you requested any help on any criminal matters?

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Nothing at all.

Speaker 10 (02:09:21):
I brought you wait instaurant You're made.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Mister Bellot.

Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
At some point when you came in in Suffolk County
grant jury, did detectives show you a firearm? Yes, I'm
gonna show you what's been answered as Exhibit.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
Number two oh six.

Speaker 2 (02:09:43):
Was this shown to you, sir? Yes?

Speaker 6 (02:09:45):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
And what did you tell the detectives as to whether
or not this appeared to be the same gun that
you purchased Aaron Hernandez a month.

Speaker 5 (02:09:53):
Or two prior to July sixteen, twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (02:09:56):
Total the detectives that I didn't believe that that was
the actual firearm that I purchased.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
What was different about the fire of you purchased?

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
I said that the firearm my purchase was new. It looked,
you know, it looked a lot newer than that. It
looked too old to be the firearm.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
And did you ultimately learn that, again, both from what
you saw in the news and from this being shown
to you, that this was believed to have been the
weapon that was used in the murders of July sixteen,
twenty twelve. Yes, and yet you still indicate that this
did not look like the weapon you got, mister Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
I still indicated that that wasn't the weapon

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