Bad Boys: Aaron Hernandez Part 4

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kah coming calling.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of
the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and I'm back
with the fourth episode in the bad Boy series covering
Aaron Hernandez. Now, the last time that I left you,
I brought you the testimony from Alexander Bradley, and he
detailed during his testimony that you have heard thus far,

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how Aaron gunned down two men in cold blood during
a dry by shooting in Boston and then shot Bradley
himself in the face in an attempt to murder him.
There's just no other way around that.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Alexander Bradley left off in that testimony with the fact
that he called Hernandez after being shot, and Aaron was
quite an honest shocked that Alexander Bradley was still alive.
He could tell in Aaron Hernandez voice, and Bradley let
him know, quote, once I get straight, you're gonna know

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what time it is, and you can take that any
way you want to take it.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
But I know what was meant by that.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
So we're gonna pick up there with text messages Bradley
started sending Hernandez as well as his questioning by detectives
on the Boston shooting. And when the prosecution is done,
the defense is gonna start and you're gonna hear some
very combative cross examination by the defense. Really an interesting

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episode coming your way right now.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
And here it is.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Chance to I'm read this prior to testifying today, a
series of what this recordedly text messages?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (02:53):
And is it fair state from reading that the full
forty eight pages you reckon ignize these as text messages
between you and the defendant, mister Hernandez, between March twenty eight,
twenty thirteen and June eleven, twenty thirteen. Yes, and so
whether or not this is a complete series of texts
between you and mister Hernandez, it's a fair to state

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this document does not contain any texts that you may
have sent each other prior to March twenty eight, twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Correct par for.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
The document of text message between mister Bradley, mister Grand's
forty eight pages, this next number exhibit.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Should it chill abritten eighty four?

Speaker 7 (03:37):
Other than the editions that we wined, we had no tections.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Thank you, mister Reiller. I want to call your attention

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to the first series of text messages contained on Exhibit
two hundred and ninety four, the first being a timestamp
of twenty eight, twenty thirteen at approximately ten twenty six
am of the number eight six oh seven two six
three seven four nine. Do you recognize that as a
number that you used at some point?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (04:34):
And the number two oh three six oh six eight
nine six'. NINE i believe you previously testified that was
a number you remembered belonging to the Defendant Aaron hernandez.
Career and can you read the text that you first
sent on This exhibit two ninety.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Four you, know the crazy part about all this is
that you did that bullshit for no reason to, me
and being a real FRIEND i was to, YOU i
didn't try to ruin you even after you tried to kill.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Me keep, Reading please think.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
About how real li that. Is SO i was a real
friend at the end of the, day and the tears
should be in my eyes after the way you betrayed.
ME i never crossed you no, way and the only
reason you even got to rock me is because we
were so one. HUNDRED i never thought you'd be the
one to shoot me and that's real.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Talk and did you receive a text message in a
response from eron and? Phone? Yes what did his say?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
SAID i love you and you're not gonna frame me
for some bread and thanks for the info he'll be
getting reached out. To always will love you because you
were my brother and you know. That BUT i hope
the best for.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
You and what did you say in the next Text he.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Was correcting in one part of that he, said thanks
for the. INFO i meant to.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Say what was your, response Mister bradley on that same
day at ten thirty?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Five, YEA i would never try to frame. You you
left me with one eye and a lot of head
traumas you owe for what you. Did and it's too
bad you don't know me enough to know that this
combo was private between. Us it ain't for no lawyer
or no. Copna, see we both know what. Happened the
truth is the.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Truth keep reading.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Police IF i dealt with the, police my, boy it
would have been over and done. With that's what's crazy
about the. Situation, uh we know each other so, well
and you KNOW i ain't on no bs you too,
paranoid that's what made you do this shit you.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Did let me stop you? There what did you mean
by your true? Paranoid that's what made you do? That
the su did he.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Just he hit a point where he was just paranoid to.
Everybody he thought everybody was the police or you know
his his level of paranoia was so.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
High and what are you? Saying the next extir.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
And, last but not, LEAST i always wanted the best for,
you to remember that you obviously didn't feel the.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Same and did Mister hernanda's respond that same? Day, Well
i'm not. Sorry did you get a response for Mister
hena and it's his phone that same day On march twenty,
eight three. Thousands the next, text, sir is what that

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you received from Mister hernandez's.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
TELEPHONE i always be there for you till the day you,
die but not in a state of Mind you're in
and been, in AND i don't know what's gotten into
you after all these years we were, inseparable with everything.
Aside you're always on my mind AND i love you
and always.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Will no, hormon what was your responsor what's?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Crazy IS i believe the party is? True you probably
do think about how relevant NIGGA i am and how
you even flipped on. Me but what sickness mean is
the fact that you're denying this shit like it's for
lawyers or. Cops you must not really know, Me BUT
i GUESS i didn't know you, either because you would
have NEVER i would have never thought you'd try to end.
Me BUT a would be the same nigga till the

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DAY i die. Too you pick the right nigga to
do that, too because the average man would have dealt
with them.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
People what do you say them? People what? People were
you talking?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
About?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Police and did you have any intention of going to
the place at this? Point? No can you read? Uh

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the next text to?

Speaker 8 (08:15):
You?

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Sir you know my lawyer called me and said he
hasn't been contacted by. Anyone it's my last chance to
reach out to you gonna resolve this? Situation are you
gonna contact him By? Friday if, Not i'm gonna move
forward with.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Litigations and continue to. Read please trying to.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Resolve this quietly for your, sake but word of my,
kids my last tried to get through.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
You continue to.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Read, WELL i tried my, Best but if you don't
care to resolve this the Way i'm offering, you then
it is what it, is uh. Yo in the day
that go by, IT i can't believe you did that
to your? Boy what were your?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Friend AND i, said the witness is gonna read they
read him. COMPLETION i be.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
All, right sure if you're asked or read a particular,
text if you read the adviirety of whatever the text message,
IS i BELIEVE i, did okay.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
The last one here on four, eleven that last texter.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Yo and in the day that go wide, IT i
can't believe you do that to your. Boy what were
you referred to shooting?

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Me call you attention out Of april, eleventh twenty, thirteen
at four forty nine. Pm did you send another text
to the phone of Mister?

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Hernandez BUT i see you at The heat Game vegas
back to back mobbing with your, boys BUT i know
that she ain't the same without, mean be, easy.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
My gig, One what does that? Mean just enjoy what you're.
Doing what did you mean by see you at the
heat Game? Vegas back the person THAT i fucked with
and was like a brother to.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Me but damn you trying to sue me for SIGN
i didn't even do or SIGN i didn't do and
don't even know. About if you could win, that Then
god is on your. Side BUT i doubt something can
be proved that isn't.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
True your, Response texa the same, Day april, eleventh twenty.
Thirteen here you're the next. Three here you go threatening?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Again you know, that don't skin, me though if you
knew how ged UP i, am you wouldn't even say.
That But i'm for, REAL i ain't threatening. You but,
hey since you say, that you know what you gotta.
Do if you don't want your life. Ruin and, oh
if you think them wolves ain't on, deck then try
what you gotta. Try BUT i bet to the one
on the, money you won't get far Choppers mac, Eleven mac.

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Nineties you Know i'm in the street on our did
get for a bulletproof, vests et, cetera spend my thirty
g's thirty thousand and since we know so, Much i've
Seen chyenna's mom New unionville, home then knew where yours.
Was but LIKE i, said, them threats don't move. ME

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i was getting for real paranoid.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Homes who are you calling paranoid? Homes Mister, hernandez what
are you referring? To i'm up above that Referencing max
And bull PROFESS i just bought a bunch of, guns
and that's what you're you're referencing To Lebster. Rnandez, now,
yes and you do have to threaten.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Him, NO i wasn't really a. THREAT i, MEAN i
was just letting him know WHERE i.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Stood and the next text to text from, you, sir.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
WELL i read the next one after ALREADY i already
read The unionville home with this. One, yeah, oh almost
forgot the right niggas that use the Weaponry and last
but not, least that's HOW i know you don't know
WHY i BECAUSE i don't be at either in my
baby mother's. House one move and oh that's a repeat

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of the same text THAT i just.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
React the next text the same, date, sir go and.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
The other one g like me never. Scared you know
you did it and since you tried to end, ME
i will end you if you don't do what you gotta.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Do continue to.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Reapless oh and you THINK i can't prove, that but
remember the town Of, bristol and you're told and who
knows ABOUT.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
I Believe the next one is a. Repeat, sir can
you go to the response from the phone Of Aaron,
hernandez a, defendant.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Laughing my ass? Off you have no. Clue just, know
at the end of the, DAY i will always love
you no matter what. Happens BUT i know you know
deep DOWN i am not, paring nor AM i, scared
and never have. Been and if you do kill me
like you, SAID i still don't, care BUT i doubt.
IT i don't even want to kill, you never. Have
but keep going with all these lines and trying to
bring me down as good AS i treated. You if

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you want, to good.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Luck you're a.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Responsor if you haven't learned by now THAT i don't
show these the police and lawyers that you're crazy and
EVERYTHING i got.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Whole forty two or, better do what you gotta do
help me.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Lol From.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Hernandez and for those who may not know what is,
mean laugh out.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
LOUD i think.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
What is your response at five?

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Thirty what makes you THINK i want to kill? You
and you the one who tried to kill? Me and,
OH i promise you you'll pay for. That and you
are so boxed and if you do, something you'll be
neber more suspect because of who you. Told AND i
promise all my kids not one THING i said is a.
Lie try me if you if you, REMEMBER i just
got paid twenty eight Thousand april fifth from my hand.

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Money i'm back. Out and you didn't pick a good.
Location cameras in that alley where you thought you'd kill,
me if that's what you call treating me.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Good now when you say cameras in that alley where
you thought you killed, me where were you referring to In,
florida a place where you were where you were shot
when you out of the.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
Car.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yep and your next, text, sir can you read.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
THAT i don't need these texts to ain't no. Sueing
this's a settlement cause you don't want to see this
go to civil trial cause then you lose it. All
but tell you, what your time is running.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Until you replace and you have trustworthy.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Niggas like me around you doubt, it dog, well we
six strong with a lot of. Weaponry so, hey you
turned this combo into. THIS i was just missing, You and.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
The response for Mister nandez's phone is, what, SIR.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I miss you every day because you know you were
my brother AND i have no, friends BUT i was
raised by the best AND i got. Myself wink.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Wink do you have any idea with the wink? Wink?

Speaker 5 (14:25):
No not Really.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
And can you read your text and response.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Niggas from the warehouse that found, me told the er and,
dispatch y'all bounced in a white? Suv what did we
go To tutti's in a white? Suv one plus one is?

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Two AND i hope we we'll just stop. You there
were what were you referring? To and those text? Messages
not really.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
SURE i THINK i was trying to tell him that
he just didn't do a good job because he left
behind evidence when he shot.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Me so when you're saying the n words in the,
warehouse you're talking, about uh what what?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Warehouse the warehouse WHERE i was shot In.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Florida and when you say told the er dispatch you
all bounced in white. Suv what are you referring?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
To that's uv that they left.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Him so you're just and the reference to tutsis is
the reference to?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
What that's the cabaret, club that's the strict.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Club you continue to read the next series of text,
sir you had the.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Two best your real dad WHO i heard was the
g and, me who you know is a real, nigga
AND i Put win win quing.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Back can you tell us what you meant by a
real end like?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
That because HE i just had so much dirt on,
him like this matter right, here AND i never.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
This matter here with the double homicide and the.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Double homicide and him shooting me In, florida AND i
just never gave him up for, nothing LIKE i never
went to the police about nothing he did AND i
had no plans. TO i WAS i was never going to.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
And ne your mind again back, Then is that what
you meant by being? Real was keeping that to? Yourself?

Speaker 5 (16:03):
YEAH i meant That i'm being real by, not you,
know telling on, Him so he should just handle this
the WAY i wanted to handle.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
It can you read the next series of text place now.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
You fall into that trap if you, Like we'll be.
Waiting it hurts me to even talk to you this
way for, real but, hey it is what it.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Is and the response from Mister nanders's phone was WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Swear To, god even you know you're trying to ruin
my life and kill me when ALL i did was
be there for. YOU i still love, you and no
home OR i will always love.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
You what was your?

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Response, Listen you're no. Dummy if you were, smart you
KNOW i ain't trying to ruin. You if that was the,
CASE i would have told on. You i'm so g
PLUS i love you so much THAT i chose to
handle it this, way which MEANS i still do love,

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you but you tried to take me away from my
kids and my. Life it will you owe for that DOUBLE?

Speaker 6 (17:01):
A now you end that text with DOUBLE? A what
did you mean by?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
THAT i was making a reference to this double homicide.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
And where you're trying to let him know that you
were referencing the double. Homicide oh, YEAH i wasn't trying
to let him. Know he KNEW i was referencing the double.
Homicide that's why you put DOUBLE.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
A that's WHY i put DOUBLE.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
A can you read the next? Text?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Please, now if it ain't gonna be this, way say fuck.
It you ain't getting shit from, me AND i follow
a civil, suit you'll lose it all and we hold
court in the streets and you Think i'm scared to,
die then think how you pulled out AND i still
rain up on. YOU i could have. Ran do you
really Think i'm scared or care on my. Kids i'm so,
prepared AND i spend my lass on. RATCHETS i can't

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even pay my. Gooms they just got what you claim
you had for me, love and you treated me. GOOD
i put you treated me? Good what niggas wanted me
to try to line you? Up AND i never. Agreed
niggas wanted to get at, you and you get at.
YOU i never. Agreed. DOG i just didn't have the
bread you.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
Have but.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
AM i reading the same? Thing BUT i BUT i
treated you. Good never stole? Lied when when your boys
you were which said he wanted to invest in, ME.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I told completely if he, was, sir.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Good you.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Good never stole lied When pouncey's your boys you were
a witch said they wanted to invest in.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
ME i told.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Him Asked Chico brands trying to chill with me get my?
Number never did it.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Was we stopped. There what is that a reference to, you?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Sir it's just a reference to other like friends of,
his thus to try to hang out with.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Me who are the pouncies some friends.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Of his From florida and Uh branch who was at
another friend of.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
His but you can read the next text, please, Sir
it was.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
A time when you couldn't do nothing for. Me REMEMBER
i was giving you credit and loans And mia after
your off he Ass beam and then was using you In.
MIA i loaned you, money lost my girl behind my
love for.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
You remember when you stop you, there what what are
you referring to when you're talking about giving him credit
and loans after SOMETHING i used.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
TO i used to give him credit for weed all the,
Time like before he got. Drafted he didn't have much
money before he got, drafted AND i loaned the money
before In miami when he went broke down?

Speaker 6 (19:33):
There and what was the reference To beam and uh
him losing uh money or you you loaning him money
and losing your?

Speaker 5 (19:40):
GIRL i want this. Part i'm talking about what my girl.
WAS i wind up getting into it with my girl
over hanging out with him so. Much she didn't like
NOW i wasn't around as. Much she was, like you,
know if you wanna hang with your, boy hang with your,
boy but this is not gonna work out with.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Us Sir, bradler was there something that you're aware of
that happened during the defense and it's rookie year with
his Friend beam and some money.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
With beam, Particularly. NO i just know he wind up
running real low on money his rookie, year AND i
know those were the friends that were hanging around.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Him did you help him money ran?

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Low, no, like not. PARTICULARLY i loan the money In,
miami BUT i didn't like help him with his financial.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Affairs can you read the next year?

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Textter but you're trying to put off for Your florida
boys who don't know a thing about you and who
don't love you like. Me AND i brought you around
people WHO i knew longer than you who wanted to
do you. Dirty AND i don't Mean chubb In june
AND i never was and niggas knew they would have
had to kill me. FIRST i just hope you ain't

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too much of a tough guy to. FEEL i don't
know who you think you, became what rapper or, whatever
but that shit wasn't. Cool you can act like you
don't hear, me but as your ex brother who knows
you feel. Me and you have a lot of people
to kill because everyone WHO i really fuck would know
about the adventures Of sharad And. Chicos so whatever you

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feel like, doing go. Ahead my six homies, baby, mother mother's,
AUNTS a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Here you, go threatening, again threatening.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Again you know. That don't scare me, though if you,
KNOW i think that's a text already read for if
you knew how gat UP i, am you wouldn't even say.
That But i'm for, REAL i ain't threatening. You, well,
hey since you essay, Say i'm imagining if you really loved,
me hain't know this shit like a man and compensate
me for what you, did or keep ignoring. Me your, choice.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Mister, bradley can you read the text mes'sages starting on
text number sixty, SIX a.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
List of things that can be subpoena flight records that you,
book credit card records that you Charged tucchi's two straight
nights of a. Hotel we stayed At hooters Week, WELL
i can't see you gotta Yeah. Hooters we ate that
you Charged. Bamboo we couldn't get because someone wore shorts the.
Club we did go and you charged bottles outside Kod

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we didn't go in and it was closing as closed
as a. Result we went To Touchy's. Lakina we stayed.
IN i think you charged. Him let's see the flight
you book To arizona without your. Brother in three years of,
vacation you never went somewhere with me and left me
there seats next to each other that you always requests
plus a trick up my. SLEEVE i won't mentioned you

(22:42):
think this looks good for you in single, trial not
to mention.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
It let me stop you, there just to, explain what
do you what are you doing by listing all those
things that you did and all the restaurants you went?
To what was your purpose in giving that?

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Information because he was telling ME i couldn't win this
telling him THAT i could because it's too much evidence right.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
There and then what did you mean when you referenced
plus a trick up my? SLEEVE i won't. MENTION i
don't even recall what it was at the. Time and
can you continue to read ON uh text number seventy
this line.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Year if you sued In, florida the state will Automatically
IF i sued you In, florida the state may automatically
pick up criminal. Charges and that's without me snitching on.
You AND i don't think you have any wins anyway
this pans, OUT i DON'T i don't. Know oh more
Footage wellington at the green to be. Exact how holler,

(23:34):
though and just got me stopping.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
There when you say, snitching what does snitching?

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Mean it means cooperating on him and the, matter The florida.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Matter and this is cooperating or snitching different than, lying
at least in your.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Mind, yes it's, different totally. Different lying is, lying lion
is not telling the. Truth snitching is cooperation with the
police against, somebody telling on somebody for an act that Day,
committee a truthful act The Day. COMMITTEE i should, say put.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Your toention out of the next line after the mall.
Footage this line, here, sir see where it threatening? Me
get you?

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Nowhere i'm done, though AND i don't be. Nowhere you
know me to be good luck in the next. LINE
i can't see the next. Line AND i had to
finish all my surgeries In West palm B so IF
i was a, rat you would have been. Done remember.
That what do you say.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
IF i were a? Rat what did you mean by?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Rat BECAUSE i went down To florida other TIMES i
went back down there for, surgeries for additional, surgeries SO
i could have still went back to the police department
again even. Later if that's WHAT i wanted to.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Do and just as far as for those who who
may not, know can you compare the words rat and?
Snitch what do those? Mean at least in your the same?
Thing and as a, Rat i'm similar to a. Snitch
i'm lying or telling the, truth but telling what they're
not supposed to.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Tell it's telling the truth about a crime that was.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Committed So Jeck jill task that.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
No well literary make consider it as it relates to
this witnesses understanding their use of those. Terms that is
his state of mind in using those particular.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Terms, now So i'm gonna skip a few texts and
we'll go down to text number seventy nine at the
bottom of the, page starting with the word Having can
you read that text?

Speaker 5 (25:32):
There having too much? Pride don't go very? Far don't
understand why you was man enough to shoot, me why
you ain't man enough to compensate. Me BUT i bet
you won't be posting that mug shot On instagram after
this civil. Suit and you still got to pray at
the state of floid don't grab you after that because

(25:54):
they kept my, touchies rigsband and evidence log the only
thing they didn't really at least back to, me damn
you stupid bro.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
And brih is that is that another word for that's?
Bro and is there a text back from Mister hernandez's
phone following that?

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Text it says. Yeah it text says you up.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
And you responded what?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Up what up? Again AND i PUT i Guess i'm
a bit because WHEN i think about what you, DID
i cry.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
And what did he?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Respond he responds SAYING i don't have a lawyer because
no need. To BUT i have my agent calling your
lawyer tomorrow or the next day, latest so just wait
for the. Call love you and can't believe. This you'rer
next text, YO i hate when you say you can't believe.
THIS i can't believe you did it like. That you
don't get. It AND i still didn't give no type
of cooperation AND i still be holding MY i don't,

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know As vee, says to worry about, threats but ONE
i ain't, scared more like, prepared and TWO i don't do.
Those and three a small part of me believes you
didn't mean to try to murk.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Me what is stop here of that? Text what does mrk?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Me what is?

Speaker 10 (27:15):
Mark?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Kill mark is another word for, Keil i'm gonna call
your attention out of the next. Kige we're gonna skip
a few of the texts and go to text number ninety,

(27:36):
one starting with really. Loved can you read that series
of text messages.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Really loved your ex? Brother you will want to compensate
me for doing something like shooting me for no reason at?
All after all we've been through before you let somebody
make you think Fun.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
And when you said after all we've been through what
we were referring.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
To, Everything we've just been through a, lot not particularly
any one, thing a lot of.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Things and did those a lot of things include the
events Of july, sixteenth twenty.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Twelve, yeah that was. Included that's one of the.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Things and can you continue to read? THAT i don't.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
WANNA i don't want to see your life, ruined AND
i don't want to harm you or see you. HARMED
i want you to compensate me for what you, did
oh for for what you know you. Did, Continue, Please
LIKE i told, you you're gonna do what you're gonna.
Do you're gonna try what you're gonna. Try but at
the end of the, day all that's gonna get you
nowhere Because i'm the only one who could stop this from,

(28:34):
happening AND i learned from the best how to get
low you pop up but Necessary.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
And what was a text from Mister daners's.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Phone you will hear from them in the next two
days BECAUSE i am not trying to rule my name
over this. Bullshit and just when you go to, sleep,
no it's your, brother AND i miss you AND i
love you and still watch videos of us having fun
every single day and can't believe, this and we'll keep
SAYING i can and believe all of. THIS i truly
can't believe all of this shit is going. ON i
loved you with all my heart and still. Do but

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just think how MUCH i love, You and think IF
i would really try and kill you when we were that.
CLOSE i wouldn't and never would want to hurt, you
and you know. That BUT i love you and it
kills me every. DAY i don't have the person saved
under that nigga calling me you were ALL i, had
AND i get tears every day and wake up to
this fucking. Shit love you good night.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Now So i'm going to color attention to text message
on the next, page starting with the text message number ninety.
EIGHT i can't even read that series of text ts
HOW i felt when you did me like, that especially
in front of them niggas was heartbroken and ego.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Torn dog niggas in my hood was saying this nigga
that this bristol ass niggas smoking THOUGHT i was retur
started UNTIL i started coming through again and hitting niggas
up for spreading rumors about me on my. Kids you
stole my trust and tore my ego because out of
all the people who, tried my ex brother was the

(30:11):
one who did you Have whoever called my lawyer because
he think whoever your people's is is stalling AND i
don't want him to send that suit off to to
off The florida, today no funny shit for.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Real and Mister, bradley when you referenced in the top
text about doing that in front of those those people
In florida who you were talking.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
About in front of whoever his friends were when he
shot me in front of his, friends which friends were referred,
TO i, MEAN i DON'T i don't know their government.
Names but the a guy WHO i indicated to you, yesterday.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
The guy you identified AS jp or Jd yes and
the other, person another.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Person it was in the back.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
And what is mister the text for Mister vanders's phone
after the, there, sir call? Me what is your?

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Response i'm seeing my surgeon from my. Eye give me a,
MINUTE i. Will i'm getting a procedure done on my.
Eye i'm stuck at the hospital until like. Three they
about to put me to sleep to do this. Bullshit
this is the SHIP i go through.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Though what was his response or the response from the
phone of Mister Hernanda's.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Just tell him he he'll get a. Call ain't nobody,
stalling just figuring out And i'm being for, Real just tell,
him don't do button stupid for no. Reason when they
about to call.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
And on the next page text message number one oh
eight from the, phone Mister fernandez, says, what, Sir, yes
they left a message for your boy because he ain't.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Answered the next text have him call nine four nine
six three six seven Zero Brian.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Murphy who did you Understand Brian murphy to be.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
As? MURPH i thought that was his. Agent it's sports
a sports agent or something like.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
That.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Correct, No So i'm gonna skip ahead to text message
number one thirteen that starts with the words my, Daughter
can you please read that series of.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Technists my daughter just asked me when we were gonna
stay At Uncle aaron's, again and you know how that shit.
Feels you have no? Idea WHEN i said, no she, said,
oh WHY i miss? Him shaking my fucking head s
m f.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
H that's what that.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Means, yep he PUT i miss her just LIKE i
missed my.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Nigga and continue to. Read.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Please my other daughter then, said, hey no, FEAR i
never got to stay. There see when shit like that,
happens then that's when this ship is real to. Me
that's ALL i wanted to. Say imagine how you feel
If ivy was old enough to, say we're SHARAD i
want to see him and you said? No and she
said why in the situation is so ill that you
can't even explain to? Him, oh you can't even explain

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who Is?

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Avi that's his, daughter, mister And ander's his. Daughter, Yep
and that's who you're referencing there when you say if
you have to explain To, avi.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
YEAH i was telling him if the rules would, switch
how you feel.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
And you continue with the next two text messages their
one nineteen and one twenty.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
And if they, did you don't even want to fuck.
ME i hope that type of shit sit on your.
Brain word you was family to?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Her when you say you was family to, her who
were you referring?

Speaker 5 (33:39):
To, oh just my. Kids we were just close like. That
we would just.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Maybe skip a series of texts To. Bradley i'm gonna
go to a text message number one thirty, four and
just for the, record we're At may, third twenty, thirteen.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
One thirty.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Four you said, yes starting with the Word mass.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Said mass is popping right.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Now now now that's a text for Mister hernandez's phone to.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
You.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Correct do you know what or what did that mean to?
You mass is popping right?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
NOW i don't know for. SURE i interpreted it to
be like the.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Clubs the, Clubs, yeah like the. Clubs what was your?
Response what you're talking?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
About his?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Response the club's out, here Check.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Twitter i'm out here. Clubbing it's just different without.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
You what's your? Response?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Oh, man enjoy that with your new. Boys just remember.
Them niggas ain't me and wasn't always feel whatever like
me until you crossed. Me the realist nigga you ever,
Had and we'll Have what was his, response same here
AND i didn't cross, you but just KNOW i love
you and never will be the. Same BUT i ain't
gonna stop, living? Brother your, response AND i know? That,

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oh AND i know you know? That and what can you?

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Read the next series of text message.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Sir, yo when DID i ever say you was live your?
Life you a man? Nigga if you stop? LIVING i
would have been very. Surprised his, Response, DAMN i miss,
you but, No i'm always here for you until you
killed me like you say you? Was your, Response you're
a funny. GUY i told. YOU i don't feel like
that towards. You you the one that keep saying.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
That your response to mister N anders's phone.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Never, MAN i just know you and how you, are
AND i know you're gonna try, that But i'll be around.
Tomorrow and if you ain't about, that talk to.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Me you're a. Responsor you don't believe.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Me you're crazy if that's how you, felt think about
the BULLSHIT i would have got. On if you say
you know me and his, responsor let's meet up, tomorrow
then what up your? Response, listen, dog you sound. Crazy
you tell me to meet? You meet up with? You
LIKE i trust? You and LIKE i trust? You and

(35:58):
on top of, that you didn't? Dirty how you gonna
how you're gonna not believe me WHEN i trusted?

Speaker 6 (36:03):
You like that response from his.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Phone we could meet up in front of them, people
or when you got all of your peoples. Around BUT
i did you? Dirty fuck out of? Here you doing me?

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Dirty and and what do you say?

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Next? Sir you talking some meet up? Shit how did
you try to rock me?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Twice what did you mean by rocking you?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Twice like try to get a chance to harm me
again like two?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
Times what was his?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
RESPONSE i wouldn't rock you. Twice just want to, say
what's up to my? NIGGA i still need to do it.
Once i'm imagining that's what he was trying to. Write
and then it says once.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
And what is your next? Responsor?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Dog the worst part is out of no, Fear i'd do,
it but out of no, trust couldn't do. It DIG
i never been done so crusty again still? Done still
doesn't know how you could do so?

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Dirty AND i see the slick.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Talk say it.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
Once i'm gonna skip a number of text, mesters Mister,
bradley and we're gonna go to text number one ninety
seven On may, fourth twenty, thirteen starting with the WORD i, listen,

(37:37):
sir can you read that series of? Texts?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Listen the one thing you know IS i definitely don't
want to ruin your. Life but we both know. That
BUT i don't know how you think you're gonna do
whatever you want and just have no consequences for your.
Actions WHO i look Like the problem is that you
don't want to settle. This you got too much, pride
and it's cool to be like that with certain, niggas
but when it is what what we, was you got

(38:03):
to accept your. Wrongs you understand, that, YO i don't
think you understand. That times you'll be dealing with a
nigga who just used to love you so. MUCH i
couldn't see myself trying to ever do anything foul to
you despite what you. Did we're gonna afford your.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Attention now to text number two oh, eight starting with
why why couldn't you rethink what you?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Did if you really love? Me and then you want
to settle? This and and whatever is in store for
us is in store if we're gonna be cool, again
that's what it will. Be but it gotta start by
resolving this incident that went. DOWN i don't know your,
choice But i'm telling you the situation ain't gonna go and,

(38:52):
resolved not even on no gangster. Shit i'm just saying
we both know what, happened and that ain't okay to
do to your so called.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Boy who were to as a so called boy.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Was talking about. Myself just gonna.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Afford your attention out to text message the top above two.
Seventeen can you start WITH i wanted IF i wanted to.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Try to harm, you in my, HEART i would have
settled for whoever is close, too because all the people
you care About i've seen. Already so let's just solve
this situation so both, sober both can resume. Life But
i'm not gonna allow you to go on living this
high life without compensating me for that. Bump sucker. Shit
that's a life changing. Experience and no matter what you,

(39:47):
BELIEVE i love you to, death but you what you
did was. Wrong and on that, Note i'm.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Done i'm Gonna florida had to text number two seventy
SIX I may, twenty two thousand. Thirteen i'm starting with

(40:20):
the word. Yo it the words. Yoe it's.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Sad it was sad that it even comes to, this
cause it was a time no matter what went, down
we both never had a funny thought or feeling towards each.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Other his r and the response from his phone was
WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
KNOW i miss you every, day But i'm trying to
move on and never will have a friend again CAUSE
i can't trust, Nobody so why Bother.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
I'm GONNA afforda had a number of text to text
number three twelve for the, RECORD I may twenty, ninth
two thousand thirteen, dud starting with the, words, uh listen?
Again can you read that series of text?

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Messages listen? AGAIN i hate that it comes to, this
but you can't go through life consequence free when you
do certain. Shit you should want to do this if
you really did missing love. Me it's crazy enough in
itself THAT i really don't feel a way towards, you
in the sense THAT i don't even think about trying
to hurt you or anyone you. Love it really LIKE
i have forgiven. You but you gotta do what you gotta,

(41:32):
do meaning you know this conversation thing is. INEVITABLE i
hate the fact THAT i even gotta handle this like.
This you should have been offering this to. Me but
just like it was real when it happened to, me it's.
Real it's gonna happen to you if we can't resolve.
This AND i know you know THAT i don't lie about.
Shit you are my, brother best, friend and a lot
of things to. Me so when you ask DO i

(41:54):
miss your? Daughter would have been my god? Daughter hell?

Speaker 6 (41:58):
YEAH i let me just up be there when you
say DO i miss your? Daughter when you ask, me
would have been god? Daughter hell? Yeah what are you referring?

Speaker 4 (42:06):
To, Well jack's all.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Right the next pages are just Mister bradley speaking all,
right so there's no.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Conversation he's all self.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Serving, okay Mister bradley had just finished reading the text
where you said a lot of things to. Me so

(42:37):
when you asked DO i miss your? Daughter would have
been my god? Daughter hell? Yeah what were you referring?

Speaker 5 (42:42):
TO i was referring to it my ex like how
we used to be cool and we're not cool no?
More so you know. Everything we're not family no.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
More when you mentioned your, daughter whose daughter we were talking,
about that's his, daughter your name would have been god daughter.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Because that's what it would have been if we were still,
cool you know WHAT i. Mean that's what it was
before situation.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
Happened and had you have conversations with Mister hernandez about
being a goddaughter with you.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
With Mister hernandez.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
And what can you? Read the next series of text
her starting WITH i?

Speaker 7 (43:20):
DO i?

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Do when you say do you miss my? Girl, YEAH i.
Do she's a great. PERSON i couldn't have been any
happier when she finally accepted me to be in y'all's.
Lives when you wonder DO i miss?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You?

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Hell, YEAH i? Do but you owe for. That you
always say you will never be the same and won't have.
Friends i'll NEVER i never gave Any i'll never gave
any new friends. Again but you won't get away with.
This i'm already don't got it in me to even

(43:59):
be for trying to be with. YOU i really do love,
you my. Boy but, again you won't get away with.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
That don't skip a number of the text, messages. Sir

(44:26):
we'll go all the way to text message three fifty
seven On june, third twenty. Thirteen, Okay i'm starting with

(44:46):
the WORD i trust you read that, text, Sir.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Oh trust them teammates and niggas you, think fuck what
you don't the players don't like, you and them niggas
you rock with ain't. Official what did you mean by?
That WHAT i, Said peo, PEOPLE i was talking about
his friends and other people around. HIM i was.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Saying his, friends, Teamates, yeah, TEAMMATES i was.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Saying and what were you?

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Saying? Uh the relationship was with his teammates CAUSE.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I don't, Know. Jacks just surprise these out of like
The patriot once you, know.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
Overworld ladies and. Gentlemen and these texts are not necessarily
offered for the truth of what is contained in the,
text but rather for the fact that they were said
by either Mister bradley or mister Herland is in the
context which things are.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Said Mister, Haggert.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Uh the response for Mister nanis's phone, was, what, sir.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Just be up, here, nigga and you're the closest thing
to the police without being the. Police shouldn't say that to?
Me and you KNOW i ain't and don't fuck with.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Anyone what did in your, mind at least being the
police mean when Mister hernandez said.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
That, wow he was trying to equate the, civilitution the
matter of me trying to sue. Him he was trying
to equate that to me being a, snitch BECAUSE i was.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Suing him, civilly quitting it to being a. Snitch, Yeah
and Mister, bradley ultimately In june of twenty, thirteen did
you file a civil lawsuit against the Defendant Aaron.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Hernandez?

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Yes was that civil lawsuit in relation to the shooting
of you On february, thirteenth twenty? Thirteen, yes, then Mister,
bradley in the text messages that we've gone over On
exhibit two hundred and ninety, four there appears to be
numerous references by you to the closeness of your relationship
with the, defendant including after The july sixteen. Homicides is that?

(47:00):
Accurate that was? Accurate how close did you get after the,
homicides after that initial period that you described? Yesterday how
close did.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
You get after the homicide.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Of the, homicides but Before february, thirteenth twenty, thirteen.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Real?

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Close we're best.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Friends did you spend time at his house In North?
Attleborough lots of? Time how frequently would you stay overnight?

Speaker 5 (47:24):
There it would Depend there's been times three four times
in one. Week there's been sometimes not at.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
All but a.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Lot and was there a room in the house that
you actually stayed at and kept close?

Speaker 5 (47:37):
At, yes there was a room in the basement THAT
i used to stay.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
In did you keep closes?

Speaker 1 (47:42):
There?

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Yes, no Mister, BRADLEY i just wanted a touch upon.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Any prior criminal record that you.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Had you going to call your attention? Now so two
thousand And i'm, Six are you the Same Alexander bradley
who was convicted In Manchester court In connecticut of possession
or sale of?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
MARIJUANA i was convicted of a possession of, sale, correct of?

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Marijuana is that? Right?

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Belief so that may not be? Right MAYBE i don't.
Know i'm not. Sure what does they say exactly on?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
There?

Speaker 6 (48:28):
Well what is your memory OF i have.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
A conviction of a drug. CONVICTION i thought it was
a sale, conviction a conviction for a? Sale?

Speaker 6 (48:37):
Okay and do you remember what was that on the
date Of july seven, tenth two thousand and six was
the disposition, date but the arrest date Was march tenth
of two thousand and, six, Correct and you had a
guilty finding on that? Charge? Correct and calling your attention,
out Mister bradley to a time after you came to
the grand jury In october of twenty, thirteen calling your

(48:59):
attention out months later In february of twenty and. Fourteen
were you arrested for an offense In february of twenty and? Fourteen?
Yes and were you held in custody for that? Offense?
Yes at any time did The comwealth Of Massachusetts Suffey
County District Attorney's office ever do anything for you on

(49:22):
that pending?

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Case not at.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
All did you ever ask for anything to be? Done?
No were you ever actually released from custody after being
charged with that particular? Case? No, again did you ever
ask for help to be released from? Custody, No, and
calling your attention out to the date of the date

(49:46):
Of july, ninth twenty and, seventeen did you plead guilty
to certain offenses In Hertford Superior court In. Connecticut, yes To,
BRADLEY i BELIEVE i Said. July That's january ninth of twenty.

(50:08):
Seventeen you pled guilty to certain? Crimes is that? Correct?
Correct and those? Crimes, sorry you're the Same Alexander bradley
who is found guilty of criminal possession of a, firearm
reckless endangerment and criminal. Mischief? Third is that? Correct? Correct
and that was that for an incident that occurred In

(50:28):
february of twenty, fourteen a number of months after you're
testified in the grand. Jury, yes it, was and has
anyone from The commonwealth Of, massachusetts The District attorney's, office
The Boston. Police was anything done for you on that? Case?
No did you get any consideration any type of leniency
based upon your cooperation in this?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Case?

Speaker 6 (50:49):
No did you ever ask for any consideration any leniency
based upon your cooperation in this?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Case?

Speaker 6 (50:54):
No and in, fact Mister bradley's farther, state you're still
serving a sentence a relative to that, case, Correct, not Mister.
Bradley in relation to the agreement that you ultimately entered
into On october, eighth twenty and, THIRTEEN i believe you

(51:16):
testified that you were not given immunity at that. Point
is that? Correct, no not doing my, interview and ultimately
you were given what's called immunity of the date you
testified in the grand. Jury is that?

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Accurate it's, correct.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Mister. Bradley can you explain why did you ultimately agree
to cooperate and testify pursuant to the immunity, agree.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Because when he came down to it at the, end
AND i just wasn't, gonna you, know go down for
something that he. DID i MEAN i probably would have,
prior BUT i had no more loyalty to him after
what he did to. Me there was no.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
More and when you say you probably would have, prior
what do you mean by? That you would have just said?

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Nothing, yeah prior to, THAT i wouldn't have cooperated at.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
All and Mister, bradley when you were brought in to
the grand jury On october, eight twenty, thirteen were you
charged with anything in connection with The july, sixteenth twenty twelve. Homicides,
no and you. Were is it fair to state you
were brought in as a witness at that? Point is that? Correct? Correct,

(52:24):
now Mister, BRADLEY i want to bring you, back just
briefly to the night Of july, sixteen twenty, twelve when
the shooting that you've testified about yesterday. OCCURRED i don't
believe you were asked, yesterday but when you pulled up
alongside the SILVER bmw at the intersection Of shawmit And
Harold street In, boston just prior to the. Shooting did

(52:45):
you have an opportunity to see the men inside of that?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Car?

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Yes did you recognize those men or men or man
as anybody you had seen earlier that?

Speaker 10 (52:52):
Night?

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Yes who did you recognize.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
As the individuals from inside the Club?

Speaker 6 (52:57):
Cure and did you see anybody who he recognized to
be as you described the man with the braids who
had bumped Into Aaron hernandez In Club.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Care, yes that was the.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Driver that was the driver and the other men in
the car that were in the car with, him did
you recognize them to be people you had seen earlier At?

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Care, definitely two of, them which to if you remember
the passenger and one of the gentlemen in the back
the passenger and one of the front passenger in the rear, passenger,

(53:41):
now Mister.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Bradley at some point were you spoken to By Boston
police homicide detectives to get further detail or information as
to how Mister hernandez had positioned himself during the? Shooting,
Yes and at some point where you shown photographs that
were taken of individuals inside of The Silver forerunner from

(54:03):
which the shots were. Fired were you shown photographs of
people posing inside of that. Vehicle, oh, yes, right approach
you witness around, first some. Brad let'm gonna show you

(54:40):
a photograph appears to be an. Individual you can see
the shoes positioned in a certain way on a. Seat
do you recognize that, photograph?

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Yes was that photograph shown to you by police detectives
for you to look at and determine whether or not
that was generally consistent with the position of Mister hernandez's
feet when he leaned over you and fired the shots
On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, Yes and that photograph that
you see, there is that generally consistent with you the
way that Mister hannis positioned his feet when he leaned
over you and fired the.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Weapon, yes pretty. Consistent got up with his?

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Photograph is the next one video jure. Detraction it's our
only out of reaction goods to see to then Become.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
He'm showing you two other photographs there that both depict
a view from the side of that same individual position
in that, vehicle the forerunner in a certain. Manner do
you recognize those two? Photographs? Are? Yes were those photographs
shown to you By Boston police homicide? Detectives? Yes and
the actions or the positioning or posture depicted in these two.

(55:47):
Photographs is that generally consistent with your memory of how
Mister hernandez extended himself over you when he fired the
shots On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, yes got off from
the two photographs of the next.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Times I'm jackson's at all ninety six to ninety, seven.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
First place in the exhibit two ninety five on the,
screen Mister. Bradley and just by point of reference for the,
jury Mister, bradley does this appear to be, uh the
gearshift of the, car the center. Console. Yes and this
would be the driver's side area up. Here. Yes and

(56:54):
what we see down here is just against the orient.
Everybody is this the passenger?

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Seat are you As i'm? Sorry?

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Yes and the way that this individual's shoes or feet
are placed on the side of the, car knees on the,
seat is that consistent with the way you saw Mister
hernande's position himself when he leaned over and fired the. Shots.
Yes placed The exhibit two ninety seven on the. SCREEN

(57:26):
i believe you previously testified, yesterday Mister, bradley that your
memory was that Mister hernandez placed his left hand on
the center console and then extended himself towards the window
when he fired the. Shots is that?

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Correct that's?

Speaker 6 (57:37):
Correct and what we see in that photograph is that
generally consistent with the way that Mister handa's positioned himself
when he fired those. Shots? Yes and what about the
angle or the degree in which this particular individual in
the photograph is leaned? Back is that more than you lean,
back less than you lean back or somewhere about the.

(57:58):
Same is probably a little more THAN i would, have but,
yes you would have been a little less lean back
a little, less but that's. Close and just to clarify that,
point Mister, bradley prior to Mister hernandez tapping you as
you testified yesterday and saying watch, out how far back
were you already?

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Reclined if you, REMEMBER i was already somewhat, reclined AND
i just reclined more.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
Place the exhibit number two ninety six on the. Screen
is that a similar angle showing the? Positioning? Yes and
is that generally consistent with the positioning of Mister hernande's
when he fired the. Shots. Yes as far as the
degree in which this individual's leaned back is that a
little further than you lean back or about the.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Same, yes a little bit, further but it's close.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
May Prech winn's, arm you might.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Figure So i'm gonna show you three. PHOTOGRAPHS i Shal
i'll start off with the two. Photographs ask you if
you recognize, you, Sir, yes and with those photographs that
were showing to you By Boston please homicide detectives at some. Point.
Yes and is this generally consistent And i'll get into

(59:47):
any differences that you, see but generally consistent with the
positioning of Mister hernandez when he fired the shots leaning
over you On july, sixteen twenty. Twelve, yes there are
for the two photographs of the next.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Number you do o jasons at, all.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Showing you an additional, photograph, sir to recognize, That, yes
and it was at a photograph that was shown to
you by homicide.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Detectives.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Yes, now the positioning of the arm in this third,
photograph and for the records fair to state that it's an.
Arm it's a side view of an arm extended somewhat
out of the car, window of the front driver's side. Window,
Yes and as far as the degree or the length
in which that arm is extended from the window of
the driver's. SIDE i was at the same that you

(01:00:41):
observed that night When sarandas fired the shots On july,
sixteen twenty. Twelve or was the arm more extended or less?

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
EXTENDED i believe the arm was less extended than, that
so a.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Little bit closer to the, car a little bit. Closer
but other than, that this is a fair nack or
representation of the way in which the, hand the right
hand was extended from the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Car, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Artograph is never, Good, Council, oh, No jason's at. All
that was three hundred.

Speaker 11 (01:01:24):
First, placing, Sir exhibit two ninety nine on the. Screen
the positioning of uh the individual?

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
Here was that generally consistent with the positioning you saw
Mister hanandez when you fired the weapon that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Night.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
Yes and the way in which the driver is leaned
back other than as you've indicated you were slightly more.
Forward is that generally consistent with where you?

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Were, Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Exhibit two hundred and ninety, Eight. Sir is that generally
consistent with your recollection of the positioning of Mister hand's
when he fired the shots To july, sixteen twenty. Twelve,
yes there are any differences that you note.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
JUST i, MEAN i don't feel LIKE i feel like
my seat was just up a little.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
More so your seat was up further that, Direction, yeah
a little bit further. Yep but as far as the
positioning of this, person is that consistent with mister.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Hands that's generally. Consistent.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Yeah, finally, Sir exhibit three, Hundred this was the PHOTOGRAPH
i last showed you showing an arm extended out of the.
Car how is this in relation to what you recall
regarding how far the arm.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
EXTENDED i just feel like that's a little further of an,
extension like that arms a little while farther than he.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Was so you recall Mister hanander's arm being a little
bit further in this, Direction.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Yeah like a little bit back more into the.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
Car Mister bradley On july, sixteenth twenty, twelve did you

(01:03:33):
ever fire a Gun july, Sixteen, no the night of this,
homicide the double, homicide did you fire that? Weapon did
you shoot those? People? No did you ever possess the
gun that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
Night?

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
No thank, you. Sir no further.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
Questions Mister, bradley your Name's Alexander.

Speaker 12 (01:03:54):
Bradley Alexander Sharab Bradley, Okay sharad is your middle?

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Name?

Speaker 7 (01:03:59):
Correct you also go by the Name.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Rock, NO i don't go by the Name.

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
Rock heard the jill pulls in the act the first
to she is rock where she's speaking of someone.

Speaker 13 (01:04:08):
ELSE i believe you might have heard her Say. Rocky
they call You rocky my. Family, yes, Okay and you're
also known As. Sharad that's my, Name, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Shooting sharad in the, Streets, jacks that's what you. Said
i'm asking you where you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Know is?

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
That now't ask me are you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Known is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
That?

Speaker 9 (01:04:28):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Sir? Okay and they call you rock because you rock
people to. Sleep jection not?

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Correct?

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
Correct, no that answer may. Stand the answers.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
No like question to, you, though, sirs whar you's with?
Injection just? Sustained you say that Because i'm reading some
of these text messages.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
And h.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
You talk About i'm.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
A one gangster viigo for real stuff like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
That those are your, words, right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
If that's what you're?

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Reading those are your? Words? Right you said those?

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
Words is?

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
That do you recall those? Words?

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Sure some of those?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Words?

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Yes, okay but then her, court of COURSE i have
a little different, tone like that's actual.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Sustained put a, Question, yes did you say.

Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
Mister hernandez is the gentleman sitting in the blue suit
with the gray tie at council?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Table, sir.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Put a?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Question did you say that?

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Earlier?

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Yesterday? Josh That's, sushine.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
Mister.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
Bradley.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
Uh some of these text. Messages let's get these text
messages a little. Bit i'd like to discuss what the
context of the text.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Messages do you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Understand? Yes, okay you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Had just gotten back From.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Florida are you asking me a? Question, yes, yes, okay
and you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Retained a lawyer.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
At some. Point.

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
Yes in, fact one of the few one of the
earliest messages you reference a.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Lawyer, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
CAN i see that? That CAN i see that? Document?

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
Please?

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
Sure for council text message sixteen.

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
Prsal witness you make, Yes, okay that's. Correct so out
of a four.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Hundred that some Odd i'll get the exact number.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Four hundred and seventy nine text. Messages by a message,
sixteen you're already Telling eron about your, lawyer, correct?

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Right and what you're doing is you're building a, case.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
RIGHT i don't believe so you're communicating with your.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Lawyer? Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Correct, Okay and your lawyer is even sending you the.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Complaint put a time frame on, that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Please at some point during these text, messages your lawyer
sends you a complaint.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
At some, point, yes and asks you to send that
to erin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Chection sustained.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
You at some point forward a civil complaint to error
to show them that you're not messing. Around, Correct and
throughout this, time from the very, beginning you're talking about
all of this legal business.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Right early on into. It at some, point, yes and
that point you're.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Talking about you want to get, compensated, Correct, Okay and
you're threatening to Ruin aaron's.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
LIFE i don't BELIEVE i threatened to ruin his. LIFE
i may.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Have, okay you're also threatened to take his? Life?

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Right, well, YEAH i was threatening to take his, life
BUT i BELIEVE i SAID i didn't want to ruin his.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Life and but if you file this, lawsuit you're going
to ruin his, life.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Right If i'm forced? Two?

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
Yes, Okay, now out of these text, Messages i'm gonna
go through him a lot quicker than Mister. Hagen BUT
i want you to note that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
You're in black.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
Text aaron's responses are in blue you see that? Correct,
okay there you see all of yours or all of
the messages here on this page are, yours with the
exception of?

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
Two? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Correct all of these with the exception of. One is you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
RIGHT i can't see The ford document on my. Computer
if you slide it? Down please?

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
Correct all of these except?

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
One is you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Two are you? Right push the document back? Up please
the other?

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Way?

Speaker 7 (01:09:27):

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Two are you?

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Correct all of? These are you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Correct all of?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
These are you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
Correct you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Correct all of these except? Two are you? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Correct all of?

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
These are you?

Speaker 7 (01:09:57):
Correct these except?

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Two are you? Actually i'm? Sorry the document before, THAT
i say? Correct they weren't on? Me one was in
the page before that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Said all of them except one?

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Correct all of these all except one correct except?

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
One all?

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):
Right all of these except?

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Two are you?

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Correct all of these.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Except?

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Three are you?

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
Correct you minus one? Correct and these are five that are?

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Errors?

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Correct another?

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Five?

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
Yeah five that are?

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
Eric about half?

Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
Correct all you minus two? Correct all you minus three.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
Again three For aaron, correct two For eron correct One
i'm sorry two here for er two?

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Correct all you?

Speaker 7 (01:11:05):
Correct all you minus one? Correct all you minus two,
correct all you minus? THREE i didn't hear it correct
on THAT i.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Couldn't see the bottom of the. Document you fit too fast?
Correct all you?

Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
Correct all you mightus one? Correct all you mightus? Well,
okay here's he's got five about half of my heads
in half? Years right?

Speaker 12 (01:11:41):
Correct all minus one? Correct you correctly, correct you completely,
correct you completely, correct you completely.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Correct all of these. Statements you're anticipating? Litigation, right, yes
after a certain? Point, Yes and all of these statements
are made in anticipation of? Litigation are they?

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Not cirtain?

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Right? No old world?

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Okay all of? These are you too? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
Correct you?

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Again that?

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
One yes?

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Correct all of?

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
These are you again?

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Correct all minus?

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
Two are you? Correct all of?

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
These?

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Are are you except one? Correct all of these minus?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Four are you about half?

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
Correct all these minus?

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
Two are you?

Speaker 10 (01:12:52):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Correct these about four that are?

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Errands?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Right? Yeah bout?

Speaker 14 (01:13:00):
Correct all you here, correct all you minus two, Correct
all you, Correct all you again, correct all you minus one, Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
All you sir? Correct all you again, Correct all you again?

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Correct and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Throughout this, time at least from text number, sixteen we
know you're in contact with your?

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Lord right?

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Correct and in.

Speaker 7 (01:13:47):
Here some of these text, Messages, oh these aren't all
your text message you're up, right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
What you got to show me what you're talking? About
if you're just talking about the, doctor.

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
These are just the text messages between you And, aaron, right.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Correct the ones you just show, Him, yes, okay and
an these.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Text messages you're threatening, him and you're telling them all
the evidence that you got, right yes for civil. Matter,
Correct and that's basically the full sham to. Set, correct,
Okay and you're telling him about the the guy who
found you in the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Alley correct at how we said he saw a WHITE.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Suv?

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Correct you know that to be true or? NOT i
KNOW i said, That, OKAY i know you know you said.
That my, questions do you know that statement to be?
TRUE i don't recall if you recall being told that
the gentleman said it was a DARK lessu be that
not a white.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
ONE i don't recall someone telling me it was a
dark sub.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Either and then you talk about cameras in the.

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
Alley, correct that wasn't, true was, it?

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Sir?

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
No that is? True? Sir, Okay so.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
There's cameras in the alley that Show Aaron hernanda is shooting.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
YOU i didn't say the camera showed them shooting. ME
i said there was a camera.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
In the, alley a camera in the alley showing you
getting shot or you being walking.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
AROUND i never said the camera showed me walking.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
AROUND i did cameras in the alley showing.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
ANYTHING i said there's a camera in the. Alley, sir
did you.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
See any video any camera in the alley at any
point in your?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Lifetime, NO i was informed of the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
Camera the camera didn't. Work, Actually, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
So you're telling them all these.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Stories you're telling them everything you, got, right, Correct and
that's to really extort him for.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
A, month, Right actually stored.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
Refrase in these four hundred and seventy nine text messages
that you don't mention at.

Speaker 10 (01:15:59):
ALL i.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
See, actually let me rephrase that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
You said back In West Palm beach that the reason
you got shot was because you said because of that
stupid shit you did up In, boston, Correct, Right and
that's what precipitated this whole.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Thing, ACTUALLY i need to correct. MYSELF i didn't say
that was the reason THAT i got shot because of
him saying that stupid, shit because of me telling him
that stupid. Shit you did In. Boston but you want
to change your.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
Testimony, now it's not changing my, testimony.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Sir so you want to correct.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Yourself it is my memory THAT i just indicated that
he said, that THAT i said that to. Him, okay that's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
So then that's not the reason you got shot because
you knew that he had shot some people up In. Boston.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
RIGHT i don't definitively, know, no, overruled.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Go.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
AHEAD i don't know the exact reason that he shot.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Me, Okay so you tell him.

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
All this evidence you got about him on The florida,
shooting but you don't say a, word and these four
hundred and ninety seven text messages about the big thing
you got on, him which is the double homicide In.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Boston. Correct not.

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
Correct there's not a single text thing because that says
anything About.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Boston there's.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
False there's an implication of.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
That, okay well let's see that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Implication, yeah pursal, witness you may take your, time, sir
find us the implication or you referenced the double homicide In.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Boston, funny all, right give me a.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Number i'll put it up on the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Screen sacks number. Fifty, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
What a zoom?

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Man hold on a.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Second, alright hear you SAY.

Speaker 7 (01:20:27):
I chose to handle, It, Well i'm gonna go up
for a little higher to give it a little more.
Context let me. Start, Listen you're no. Dummy if you were,
smart you'd KNOW i ain't trying to ruin. You if

(01:20:50):
that were the, CASE i would have told on. You
i'm so g.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
PLUS i loved you so. MUCH i chose to handle
it his.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
Way i'm, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:21:03):
His, way which MEANS i still do love, you but
you tried to take me from my kids and my life.
Away you owe me for that double. A?

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:21:13):
Correct and you're saying your assertion is that you use the.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Word double a and that means that he committed a double.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
Homicide, yes that's what that. Was he knew what it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Was how do you spell?

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
AIR i don't know how do spell the?

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Shirt i'm asking you how do you spell?

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Er do you know how to spell? It And i'm not,
NO i don't know to SPELL i know there's different
ways to spell. Aaron how would you spell aaron? SHIRT
i don't like to. Speculate how does he spell?

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
This?

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
HER A A R B a H?

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Okay so there are two ways in his, name first.

Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
Name, correct would that be double a.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
If that's how it's, Spells, yes, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
And according to, you that means double, homicide.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
Right, correct because if you look at the rest of those,
documents never at any other time DO i normally address
him double. A that's why that what the, son.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
Because you don't call him double. A, yeah that means
you're referring to a double.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Homicide, yes it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Was it was a subliminal message to him about the double. Homicide.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Correct speaking of subliminal.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
Messagers on your second interview On october eighteenth with the,
police the last question asked to you by Mister hagen
is do you reject the subliminal?

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Messages, no that may. Stand it's the witnesses. Testimony Mister.

Speaker 7 (01:22:49):
Hagen do you recall Mister hagen asking you if there's
anything that you know of that could support what it
is that you're. Saying you, said, yeah search his iPad
or his. Records AND i think he refers to himself
as double. Way you remember, that, yes? Okay and Apparently

(01:23:17):
aaron likes the rap, correct, Okay and he uses that
reference when he.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Wraps he used it during the rat in a reference
to a particular, situation which is the matter of. Him and,
that's of.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Course according to.

Speaker 7 (01:23:33):
You, correct you have nothing to corroborate this whatsoever except
your word.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
If there's NO iPad in. Evidence, yes, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Well let's take a look at your, word.

Speaker 7 (01:23:46):
Sir do you recall Mister hagen asking you about some
of the things you said in your jail calls before.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Being brought over To, boston remember, That, YES i.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Do now.

Speaker 7 (01:24:01):
Let's put this in context for the ladies and gentlemen
of the.

Speaker 15 (01:24:03):
Jury your subpoena to come to the grad, jury, right,
Correct and you don't. Show, correct you don't show because
you think if you, show you're A.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
TRUMP i believe it's a. Possibility, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
Okay and you got your own interests at heart here right.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
At this? Point, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
Okay so the police come get you because you don't show, off, right.

Speaker 7 (01:24:29):
Correct they hold you on a two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars cash.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
LINE i believe it was, higher but it could, be, right.
Okay and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
You start making calls to your to your.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
FAMILY i made a call to my daughter's, mother, Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
Brooke wilcos, correct, Right and you talked about some of
the statements you made Se, brooke.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Yesterday you mentioned, it, RIGHT i believe they were, mentioned,
CORRECT i. Guess, okay let's.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Say exactly what you. Said you recall SAYING i don't
know shit about that. Ship, yes and you're referring To boston, right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
Okay and then you say they're just gonna ask me
about a bunch of shit THAT i don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Know.

Speaker 7 (01:25:17):
Correct you're lying, right, yes, okay you're Lying brook, correct
the mother of your of your, daughter, yes. Okay and
then you, say On october, sixth they said dumble as,
fuck how's my testimony?

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Crucial you remember saying that? Vaguely, yes, okay you're lying.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
Again at the, TIME i. WOULDN'T i wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Know that's your. Word those are your, words, Right, well.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
You're not allowing me to. Answer.

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
Please at the, TIME i didn't know if.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
My testimony was crucial or how crucial it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Now, okay but you don't know, shit.

Speaker 5 (01:26:02):
Right that was a.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
Lie that was a, lie, Correct, okay that's your, word,
right that was my?

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Word? Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Yeah and then you, SAY.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
I can't see how they're saying HOW i may have
been in the. Car that's the most bogus, shit.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Man that's a, lot, Right, UH i don't recall that,
part but CAN i see?

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
That sure.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
You see That i'm, saying, Yeah i'm trying to get
that's WHY i.

Speaker 7 (01:26:37):
Yah right?

Speaker 8 (01:26:44):
There?

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Okay and then.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
On october, sixth you, SAY i don't know, shit that's
that's why they're Dumb assi can't wait to get up
there and tell them how stupid they.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Are remember saying THAT.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
I don't, recall but if it's on, There i'm SURE
i said.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Okay did you get up there and tell, uh Mister
haggan how stupid they? Are? No, okay but that was
so that was a?

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
Lie?

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Right what was a lie that how stupid they?

Speaker 16 (01:27:20):
Are let chection that's. Sustained did you get up so
did you come To? Boston you said you couldn't wait
to tell. 'em let they're dumb asses and tell them
they're dumb ass and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
You were.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Hurled if that's what the document, says then that's WHAT i.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Said my question to you, is did you tell them
that they're dumb? Asses? No, Yay, no that's when you
cut a? Deal, right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
At some POINT i cut a. DEAL i don't know
if you know that's exactly. When but at some.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Point now you keep talking about at some point you're
brought over all Octs ober. Eight do you recall.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
THAT i believe that's. Accurate, Okay and you have.

Speaker 7 (01:28:07):
Your lawyer, there, Correct and that's a Mister pickering, correct
you call Him pick for?

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Sure? Correct, yeah you're close like that Would pick? Right?
Jection you, know, no you may answer that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
You're close like that Would pick. Right he's my, lawyer
you call him.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
Pick jection has to answer. Sustained.

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
Okay so.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
The commonwealth and At pick start, talking, right chection of
the reconstant referring To.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
PICK i have a referrag with your. Honor i'm SURE
i think it's. RELEVANT i have a later reference story
work woman goes, around yeah To. Pick. Okay, so, uh
the The commonwealth and your lawyer start talking right at some, Point,

(01:29:01):
yes your lord starts telling them.

Speaker 7 (01:29:03):
Things, jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
All, Right i'll show you a shiper.

Speaker 7 (01:29:17):
Just a.

Speaker 17 (01:29:18):
Biance unfortunately you, may Mister, Bradley i'm showing you your
letter from The State attorney's office to.

Speaker 7 (01:29:28):
You do you recognize that?

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Letter?

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
Yes, okay and it's three pages, right, Correct and that's
their signature right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
There.

Speaker 7 (01:29:37):
Correct Dated october, eight twenty. Thirteener, Okay, judge at this,
time we would move to introduce the immunity letter issued
by The commonwealth Of massachusetts, too Mister, bradley.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
As an exhibit all right without a trajection that is received.

Speaker 18 (01:30:04):
Three zero, one, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:30:25):
All, right ladies and, GENTLEMEN i want to give you
an instruction with regard to the Exhibit trust. Received the
Exhibit trust received was described as an immunity. LETTER i
think it's more properly dubbed a cooperation. Agreement that, is
it expresses an agreement between The commonwealth in this, case

(01:30:46):
represented by the office of The District, attorney and this,
witness Mister. Bradley. Uh where The commonwealth is EXPRESSING i
suppose you could call the benefit that is a statement
the Common wealth will not prosecute Mister bradley for anything
he may tell them in connection with the instant case

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in exchange Mister bradley's full cooperation and the agreement also
reflects that before Mister bradley appears under oath in a court,
proceeding either before a grand jury or before a, trial
that The commonwealth will seek that has petitioned the court

(01:31:31):
for an order of, immunity that, is a grant immunity
by the court to a witness for anything a witness
may say as part of their testimony in a court
proceeding immunity means the person could not be prosecuted for
any matter that is the subject of their. Testimony in

(01:31:53):
introducing this agreement as an, exhibit please understand that it
is not an expression of the truthfulness or lack of
truthfulness of a witness's. Testimony it is not a statement
or reflection that one side of the, other and particularly The,
commonwealth in granting or entering into this cooperation, agreement is

(01:32:18):
in any way vouching for the truth of the information
provided by Mister. Bradley and where a witness is testifying
pursuing to some cooperation agreement or some plea, agreement or
testifying pursue it to a grant of, community that, is
where a witnesses received some sort of promise for, benefit

(01:32:41):
then under those, circumstances aguery should examine that witness's testimony
with great care and. Caution that, is understanding and considering
the fact that some benefit or promise has been made
in exchange for the information.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Granted Mister bay continue thank, you, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
Mister, Bradle you when you got taken over To boston
or until, graded you were aware this was being, negotiated right, Projection.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
No. Overhorld, no you had your lawyer.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
There right WHEN i came on the, Eighth, yes the,
EIGHTH i wasn't aware that there was anything being. Negotiated
actually there. Was explain what you mean by. Negotiation, well.

Speaker 7 (01:33:29):
You read this letter right, correct signed it, correct and
you understood everything in it. Correct and if you didn't
understand anything in, it you had your lawyer there to
be able to explain to you what certain paragraphs. Meant, Correct,
okay and you took advantage of that legal advice.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Protection you may answer that yes or.

Speaker 18 (01:33:48):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
Correct Now i'm gonna let's let's go over that with
the ladies and gentlemen of the jury real quick section
at a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Time.

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
Okay this letter is address to your, lawyer, correct, Correct,
Okay and here it, says it is my understanding that your,
Client Alexander, bradley has certain first hand information that may
be relevant to the investigation and prosecution Of july, sixteen
twenty twelve shooting homicides Of daniel o'braw.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
And sophia for title.

Speaker 7 (01:34:18):
Invested see. That, yes you understand everything there, Right, yes.
Okay the next paragraph, says, specifically it is my understanding
that On july, sixteenth at approximately two twenty, am Mister
bradley operated a motor vehicle in Which Aaron hernandez was the.
Passenger it is my further understanding that Mister bradley made
certain observations in the fatal shooting at this intersection Of

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harold And Shaman avenue In. Boston, additionally is my understanding
that Mister bradley did not discharge a firearm at any
time On july, sixteen twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
Twelve see.

Speaker 7 (01:34:48):
That, yes you understand all of, that, yes. Okay so
before getting this, letter your, lawyer, so Mister hagen that
one you saw On hernandez shoot he's too, mad and
two that you did not.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Fire a gun protection sustained in that form back at
when you see, this this information was already given to
the state for you to get this. Letter. Right i'll
show you a shide by question.

Speaker 7 (01:35:20):
Again all, Right so before you were able to sit
down with the, prosecutors you've already told them you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Were driving the, car, Right. Okay i'll actually kind of
found a. Question if it makes, it you, can.

Speaker 19 (01:35:38):
Okay that you were driving the, car you Saw aaron
do the, shooting and you didn't shoot a god that,
night that you were driving the, car you Saw aaron
do the, shooting and you didn't shoot a god that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Night to someone for, them it was my. Understanding that's
what the first paragrapher first to. Correct, Correct, OKAY i
think it jud what instruction, is all, right ladies and.

Speaker 9 (01:36:02):
Gentlemen to the extent that, is information was communicated by
a third, party in this case by an attorney to
someone for The, Commonwealth that could be. Hearsay that, is
if it were presented for the truth of what was
contained in that, statement it would be hearsay and not.

(01:36:23):
Admissible i'm admitting this question and the content of what
is in this agreement.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Not for the truth of what was, said but for
the fact that it was.

Speaker 9 (01:36:35):
Said that, is it was a representation made prior to
Mister bradley speaking to police officers for our prosecutors as
to buy as you may, continue all.

Speaker 7 (01:36:47):
Right the next paragraph, Reads, sir based on these, representations
the following sets forth the agreement entered into Between Suffolk
County District attorney's office and your, client Mister, Bradley do
you see?

Speaker 9 (01:36:59):
That?

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
Yes, okay this is the agreement that you guys entered.
Into Mister bradley agrees to provide a complete and accurate.
Profit let's stop right there for a. Second do you
understand what the word complete?

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Means? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
Yes and you understand what the word?

Speaker 7 (01:37:19):
Right, yes you're aware of the word of the phrase
lying by omission, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
I'm a word of the word. Lying do you know
what that?

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Means lying? Biomission?

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
No can you explain it to?

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Me?

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
Please it means.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
When you tell half the, truth you don't tell the whole. Truth? Objection,
now o?

Speaker 13 (01:37:43):
Her old you understand understand that kind of like tell the,
truth the whole truth and nothing but the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Truth do you? Understand?

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
YES i do.

Speaker 7 (01:37:53):
So complete means, everything, right, yes, okay and accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Means, truthful. Right. Correct that's what it means to you, too, right?

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
Correct all?

Speaker 7 (01:38:03):
Right, now profer regarding the above described, incident no statements
made or other information provided by Mister bradley during the
profit will be used by The District attorney's office against
Mister bradley in any judicial. Proceeding that basically means to you,
right that whatever you say can't be used against you

(01:38:27):
in any, proceeding except we're going to get into. That
you understand that to be?

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:38:32):
Correct all right, now.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
Except as for the purposes of cross, examination, rebuttal or.
Impeachment should Mister bradley offer testimony or evidence in any
proceeding which is materially different from the state from any
statements or information of delighted during the? Profit you know
what that?

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Means, yes it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
Means let me see IF i want to be.

Speaker 7 (01:38:58):
Clear does it not mean that if you lie where you,
say you say, something they can cross examine.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
You, listen they can cross examine you or rebut what you? Say?

Speaker 5 (01:39:09):
Correct, yes that's WHAT i.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Mean and Then SECTION b.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
Says in a prosecution based on false statements made or
false information provided during the, profit do.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
You unders say what that? Means? Sir?

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (01:39:24):
Okay does that not mean to, you, sir that if
you lie they could prosecute you for?

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Perjury?

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Okay have you been charged with perjury? Yet?

Speaker 18 (01:39:37):
Sir, no?

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Sir.

Speaker 7 (01:39:39):
Okay, disagreement, Disagreement i'm sorry in the prosecution for the
problems disagreement not to use Mister bradley's statement against them
applies only to those statements made during the course of
the profit with certain and specific, investigation And i'm, sorry
which pertained to the specific investigation and set, forth. Bove

(01:40:00):
you understand those?

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
Words?

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:40:03):
Okay, next Mister bradley agrees to provide complete and truthful
information to law enforcement officials investigating the above described.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Incident you understand what complete and? Truthfully? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Okay, again we're using that line bottle mission. Complete, right
you understand that for the fourth.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Time, yes to. Understand, now, well we're.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
Gonna go over some, more so don't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
Worry. Next Truthful this is different than, accurate but it
means the same.

Speaker 12 (01:40:33):
Thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Right they don't mean exactly the same, thing but they Cl, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
What's the difference between truthful and?

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Accurate to, you?

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
Sir truth truthful means the truth and accurate means.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Accurate but in this context it means something different to
you objection.

Speaker 9 (01:40:50):
Problems, no you may explain the difference in your mind
between those two.

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
Terms accurate, means and my, opinion accurate means, precise almost,
precise or close to. It truthful means. Truthful, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
And truthfully before any grandury, investigation the above described incident
and any subsequent hearings and trials relating to the. Same
Mister bradley agrees that he will neither withhold any. Information
you understand what withhold information?

Speaker 18 (01:41:30):
Means?

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Right WHY i think it's not on the screen? Completely?

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
Sorry, yes, YES i do know what we've hold information, means.

Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:41:44):
In his, possession nor provide any false. Information do you
understand what that, means? Sir, yes, Okay so you're not
to provide any false. Information you understand that, clearly?

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
Right, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:41:55):
Okay Mister bradley acknowledges that no law enforcement official has
threatened him to cause him to provide the.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
Information you see, that, yes, Okay no law.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
Enforcement official has made any promise to him to cause
him to provide the. Information see?

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
That?

Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
Yes and see that no law enforcement official has told
him what to?

Speaker 5 (01:42:18):
Say do you see?

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
That? Yes.

Speaker 7 (01:42:22):
OKAY i want you to pay close attention to SECTION
c that no law enforcement official has told him what to?
Say do you remember that from when you sign?

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
This?

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
Okay and you remember that throughout your dealings with law
enforcement and.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
The, prosecutors, right, yes?

Speaker 7 (01:42:39):
Okay and other than to tell the truth in any
interview or testimony he shall give now paragraph, two subject
to the condition set forth the paragraph three and four,
below in exchange for Mister bradley's cooperation as set forth
the paragraph, one and upon satisfaction of The District attorney

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that Mister bradley was not the individual who fired the
weapon that killed Mister abrave and Mister, furtado or that
he directed any individual to commit the, act The District
attorney agrees not to prosecute Mister bradley for any crimes
arising out of the actions related To july, sixteenth twenty
twelve shooting homicides Of Daniel abrado and severial for title In.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
Boston.

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
Right, yes what this is saying is you got to
convince The District attorney.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
That you aren't the, shooter right Forse do you see
what that? Says?

Speaker 5 (01:43:33):
Satisfaction would you want me to tell you my?

Speaker 7 (01:43:35):
Interpretation edition is, Well i'm going to repeat that section
and then well you can tell me what your interpretation.
Is and upon satisfaction by The District attorney that Mister
bradley was not the individual who fired the gun that

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killed Mister abradia and Mister, fortitle that he or that
he directed the individual to commit the. Act the District
attorney agrees not to prosecute Mister. Bradley what does that
mean to, you?

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
Sir what it? Says, Okay so, basically.

Speaker 7 (01:44:15):
So long as it's upon the satisfaction of the district,
attorney they won't prosecute, you, right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
Right but that's not what you. Said you said it's
my job to convince.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
THEM i don't BELIEVE i used the word, job but,
Okay i'll take your word for.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
It maybe, not you, know Mister, Bradley i'm sorry you,
don't Miss, bradley that Mister hagen is not the district, attorney.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:38):
ACTUALLY i did know. THAT i thought he was a district.

Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
Attorney you understand that he's the first assistant, districttorney, RIGHT
i now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
Know, okay it's a pretty big guy at that. Office, Right, no,
overruge you understand, that?

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
Right, YES i do understand.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
That next is the district attorney further agrees to submit
an application for judicial immunity pursued to and then it
gives certain statutes prior to Mister bradley's testimony before The Grand.

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Journal do you understand?

Speaker 5 (01:45:20):
That?

Speaker 7 (01:45:21):
Yes, okay disagreement is contingent upon the truthfulness of the
information that Mister bradley has provided and will continue to
provide to law enforcement officials investigating the above. Describedents and
do you understand what that paragraph?

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Means?

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:45:36):
Okay does that paragraph mean to you that not only
should you tell them the truth during the, proffer but
you should continue to tell them the truth throughout the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Process, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Okay, now.

Speaker 7 (01:45:50):
Disagreement is also contingent upon Mister bradley providing complete and truthful.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Information those are those words? Again do you remember those? Words?

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Okay and the testimony before the grand jury and subsequent
hearings are trials following the testimony of Mister bradley before
the grand.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
Jury if the.

Speaker 7 (01:46:09):
District attorney learns that the information or testimony that Mister
bradley provides after the date of this letter is not
complete and, truthful then the District attorney may declare this
agreement null and. Void do you understand?

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Okay so if Mister.

Speaker 7 (01:46:26):
Higgin finds any information that's not, true he can declare
this agreement nulling boys?

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Right? Correct how they declared it null and? Void yet
not as far AS i, know, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:46:43):
Should the district attorney declare this agreement null and void
because the information or testimony provided by Mister bradley is
not complete and, truthful The District attorney may institute a
prosecution for.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Perjury you see? That?

Speaker 7 (01:46:56):
Yes so not only do you know that Mister hagan
couldn't declare this agreement no void if.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
You tell a, lie he could also prosecute you for perjury.

Speaker 5 (01:47:08):
Goot, YES i do understand.

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
That and if the agreement is noing, gooid you could
possibly face.

Speaker 5 (01:47:14):
Charges yes on this, case understand? That?

Speaker 7 (01:47:19):
Okay this letter reflects the complete agreement between The District
attorney and your, Client Alexander. Bradley only a writing signed
by all parties may modify it if you don't. Agree
if you do not agree to this letter. Accurate if
you agree that this letter accurately describes the agreement between

(01:47:40):
The District attorney and your, client please confirm this by
signing the appropriate space. Below can you understand that, yes
and that is your, signature, sir, correct as well as
the signature of your.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
Lawyer.

Speaker 7 (01:47:54):
Yes, now, sir you testified that you were you've been

(01:48:21):
dealing in marijuana yesterday you said since two thousand and,
seven you would call that. Testimony, yes, Okay but in,
fact you have a conviction for sale of narcotics in
two thousand and, six do you have?

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
YES i.

Speaker 7 (01:48:35):
Do, Okay so that statement was, false right?

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
Objection?

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
Uh, no you may answer that. Question you may explain your. Answer,
uh that station is. Set you started dealing in two
thousand and. Seven it's not true, injection not.

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
Accurate not, Accurate, bill you may answer and explain you
set up. Marijuana is marijuana considered a? Narcotic?

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Yeah is? It?

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Yes, Okay well, Marijuana i've been dealing since two thousand and.
Seven in two thousand and, SIX i was dealing with
WHAT i knew was a. NARCOTIC i have a conviction
for it was a cocaine.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
Conviction i'm, sorry can you repeat that last?

Speaker 5 (01:49:20):
Part the conviction was not for marijuana in two thousand and.

Speaker 7 (01:49:23):
Six so you're playing semantics with the words narcotics versus.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
Marijuana, uh it's shade, now.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
This.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
Narcotics so.

Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
You began dealing in two thousand and.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Six is that your?

Speaker 7 (01:49:47):
Testimony, no that's dealing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
Drugs that's not my.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
Testimony, Okay WELL i want to ask you your testimony.
Now so you began dealing.

Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
Drugs when from two thousand and.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Six it's not. Accurate?

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Okay when did you start dealing? Drugs?

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
Sir some time before about the year two, thousand two? Thousand,
Yes so.

Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
From the year two thousand until now or until you
GOT i guess or are you still dealing?

Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
Jesh?

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
Uh that's.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
Sustained from the year two thousand until at least two
thousand and, seventeen you've been dealing.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Drugs ac it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
Accurate, uh the answer may.

Speaker 5 (01:50:30):
Stand it's not accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
That you agree with.

Speaker 5 (01:50:33):
It that's not.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
Accurate, Okay from when from two thousand? Until when have
you been dealing?

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
Drugs from two thousand up UNTIL i became incarcerated two
thousand and WHAT i S i've Been it's been over
almost three and a half years That i've been incarcerated
two thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Fourteen.

Speaker 7 (01:50:59):
Correct, Okay so for fourteen years you've been dealing, drugs, right, yes?
Okay and drugs are very dealing drugs are very violent.
Business is it?

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
Not it can be okay when you deal, drugs it's
a very violent. Business right rejection sustained

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