In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the indictment of New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell, The lawsuit filed by the state of Louisiana against gaming giant Roblox, An OnlyFans prank goes wrong for a Tennessee Police Officer, A Kentucky woman’s mugshot goes viral after paying back an ex-boyfriend, and so much more on tap today!
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03:00 New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell Indicted.
11:30 Body found in Rocky Mountains after Ride-share ride.
13:50 Louisiana files suit against Roblox for lacking child safety standards.
21:10 Ohio Doctor Arrested with over 150 thousand C.P Images.
25:55 Georgia woman gets life in prison after argument over open marriage results in murder.
32:55 Florida teen fight leads to new rules for Polk County per Grady Judd
38:05 The Meat Bandit of Livingston Parish Louisiana
44:15 OnlyFans prank leads to guilty plea for Ex-Cop
53:40 Kentucky woman’s mugshot goes viral after payback on ex-boyfriend leads to a felony.
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Timestamps
03:00 New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell Indicted.
11:30 Body found in Rocky Mountains after Ride-share ride.
13:50 Louisiana files suit against Roblox for lacking child safety standards.
21:10 Ohio Doctor Arrested with over 150 thousand C.P Images.
25:55 Georgia woman gets life in prison after argument over open marriage results in murder.
32:55 Florida teen fight leads to new rules for Polk County per Grady Judd
38:05 The Meat Bandit of Livingston Parish Louisiana
44:15 OnlyFans prank leads to guilty plea for Ex-Cop
53:40 Kentucky woman’s mugshot goes viral after payback on ex-boyfriend leads to a felony.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we have a pat day for you
today in the world of crime. I'm gonna cover a
couple of the headlines that you're gonna hear today, not
gonna cover them all like they usually do, because you know,
I just run out of time to write them. Kelly Jennings,
that's fine, but we're gonna give you a little bit
of what we're going to talk about. New Orleans Mayor
(00:20):
Latoy Cantrell has been accused of a criminal cover up
to keep an affair she was having with her bodyguard,
a seeker. We're going to talk about that, and we're
going to stay in Louisiana for another story. Roadblocks is
getting sued Louisiana being the first date to sue Roadblocks.
We're going to talk about that. A woman has been
(00:43):
shot dead after her husband wanted to add new rules
to their open marriage. Well, I mean, I always thought
you didn't have rules in an open marriage, but apparently
they had some sort of rules. We'll get into what
that exactly means. Authorities have found a body they believe
(01:03):
it to be a twenty three year old man who
disappeared while hailing a ride in the Rocky Mountain National Park.
We're going to talk about that, and we're also going
to talk about a former Cincinnati children's doctor that had
one hundred and fifty thousand child pornography images as well
(01:23):
as hundreds of videos that he was caught with. Kelly's
going to bring you that story, and we got so
much more today. It was such a packed week in
the world of crime that actually I struggled to pick,
you know, not to go crazy and have a twenty
four hour show.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right, we could keep going and going, Oh, it really could.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So we're going to talk about all of that today.
Welcome to Crime Wire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm
Kelly Jennys long week this week, Kelly, with all the
crime stories that have been coming up, and I know
Kelly and I well, you tell him about our little
field trip if you will. Today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Before we recorded this, we've had a long day and
we had the privilege and the honor of speaking with
he's now Mayor McDavid. David McDavid out of Zachary and
so we are working very hard on a Derek Todd
Lee series we were going to be releasing sooner than later.
I know, I've been my listeners have heard me say that,
but we are working hard. And we even went on
(02:24):
one site to some of the places where these victims
were and maybe still are today.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, it was very somber, and so we're going to
be bringing all that your way. I can tell you
Kelly has already recorded episode one of that series. Of course,
we're talking about Unspeakable, a true crime podcast by Kelly Jennings,
So go check that out if you're not already checking
it out, because she's got a big project coming up
(02:52):
with DTL. Excited for that. Now, let's get into the stories,
and we're going to start out in New Orleans, the
Big Easy and I'm going to tell you about Mayor
LaToya Cantrell. She is all over the news, not only
locally but nationally. So what happened well? Officials allege that
she has defrauded the city while trying to keep her
(03:15):
hidden relationship with a police officer that was assigned to
protect her. So New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell was indicted
this past Friday on federal charges of defrauding the city
while trying to keep a romantic relationship with that officer's
secret Cantrell is charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud,
(03:38):
conspiracy to obstruct justice, making false statements, false declarations, and
other charges before a grand jury. Prosecutors allege that her
romantic relationship was with her bodyguard, a guy by the
name of Jeffrey Paul Vappi the second and he served
on the New Orleans Police Department's Executive Protection Unit from
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May of twenty twenty one to April of twenty twenty four.
Now to hide their relations from detections and maximize their
time together. Now because you may wonder, well, I mean,
maybe she just fell in love with her body her
version in Kevin Costin. Yeah, maybe, Yeah, it sounds so romantic. Well,
(04:23):
the problem here is Cantrell and Vappy would exploit their
public positions to develop and implement a scheme to defraud
the City of New Orleans and the New Orleans Police
Department by engaging in personal activities while Vappy claimed to
be on duty and he was paid to be on
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duty during those times. Vappy was already facing charges of
wire fraud and making false statements, and he has pleaded
not guilty to those charges. A grand jury returned an
eighteen count indictment on Friday that added Cantrell to the
list in this case and new allegations against Vappy. If convicted,
(05:08):
Cantrell and Vappi could face years in prison. Some of
the counts outlied in the indictment carry up to five
years in prison each and others up to twenty years
in prison. So this is serious shit here. Yeah, this
is not you know, something where they're not going to
do prison time if they're convicted. The pairs three year
fraud exploited their public authority in position that according to
(05:31):
Michael SIPPs Simpson, who is the acting US Attorney with
the Eastern District of Louisiana, Cantrell was married during the
period that all of this went down, to an attorney
by the name of Jason Cantrell. He died in August
of twenty twenty three. The mayor and Vappi have said
(05:52):
their relationship was strictly professional, but the indictment portrayed it
as personal and intimate. Federal prosecutors allege the two used what'sapp. Now,
WhatsApp is supposed to be what Kelly, it's supposed to
be an application that does what?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, it's not. I don't know what you're looking for her,
but that is not traceable or.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's right, that's right. It encrypts your text. So let
this be a lesson for you that if the police
want to unencrypt something there, I don't think there's an
app out there, at least the federal government that they
can't unencrypt because.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I'll tell you this too, think of the forward thinking.
If you're trying to go through an app that you
think is encrypted, that's right, D D D that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah. And so fifteen thousand messages back and forth they
were able to unencrypt, as well as pictures and audio
clips during an eight month period. It wasn't immediately clear
when the messages were sent. Prosecutors say Cantroll and VAPI
also used the app to intimidate subordinates as a citizen.
(07:01):
More on that in a second delete evidence light of colleagues,
and commit perjury for the purpose of distracting and impeding
investigations into their actions. That be accompanyed Cantrell on fourteen
domestic and international trips to maximize their times together. For example,
during a working trip to working trip to San Francisco
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in April of twenty twenty two, the pair stated extra
day they visited Napa Valley's wineries. That nice. Yeah, and
that he claimed to have worked fifteen hours that day.
Well he did, Oh he worked, Oh he worked. He
heard it. In one text, Cantrell characterized their moments together
as quote, I love the times when we are truly alone.
(07:47):
And I don't know she said it with that deep
of voice, and as and that it quote spoils her
the most. So prosecutors are using that to prove this
was more than a Kevin Costner situation.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I don't ever recall sending any of that to
any of my.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Bosses, right, And so the problem again New Orleans. They
added up how much money New Orleans, the city paid
for these trips, et cetera, seventy thousand dollars in tax money,
essentially to finance this love fest.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
On the backs of the citizens. And that's the thing.
This money comes on the backs of working citizens.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's right. So she's in a bond. And I am
going to cover this entire lawsuit on exposed. I've already
got it printed out. Not lawsuit, actually I misspoke there.
I'm going to the indictment. This is a criminal indictment.
It's not civil. You know, this is a criminal indictment.
I'm going to cover that, so stay tuned, but just
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quickly on this whole scenario. I have a personal experience
with this scenario, and the way that I got this
was about a year, maybe a little over a year ago,
a lady contacted me. She said, I want to do
a podcast, and she was from New Orleans, and so
we kind of talked about what she was wanting to do,
(09:09):
and she mentioned, if you're curious about who I am,
you can google me. I'm very she didn't use the
term famous, but very well known in New Orleans because
I have a lawsuit and I have a lawsuit against
me as well as I have one against Littoya Cantrell.
So I googled that and then I talked to her
about it. Well, this lady had taken a picture of
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Vappy and Cantrol together when it was worktime and they
were basically having drinks and they were sitting at a
table and where her apartment was, she could see them
on from her balcony and she took a picture because
they were holding hands and she's like, hmm, Mayor getting
a little bit cozy with her bodyguard. Well, Cantrell ended
(09:53):
up suing her for like stalking and some other things.
It became a big mess. But that's no doubt what
kicked off this investigation.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Absolutely, And then on top.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Of that the citizen, the intimidated citizen, that's this lady.
I'm not going to say her name because I don't
know if she will want.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Me to, but yeah, well, and the thing is too,
because I know you and I looked into this previously,
is that then Mayor Cantrell used her position to access
un public or non public information on said citizen to
then try to go after this person and then falsified
(10:31):
or basically kind of lied on, allegedly lied on some documents,
and was able to get a protective order against this
citizen that is believed to otherwise otherwise would have not
been given.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So this is deep shit and this is the FEDS.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think ninety five percent plus conviction.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think she's cooked. As the kids would.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Say, yeah, and look, I don't know her personally, but
I know I was not happy with the way that
she was maintaining her mayorship of New Orleans. There are
a lot of things I personally disagree with. I don't
live there, so I don't have skin in the game,
but I do travel there and visit there, and so
(11:14):
I've never been a fan of hers, let's say that.
But so when this came out, he didn't surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I wasn't surprised either. I think a lot of people
here if you asked them, they'd say they weren't surprised.
They're my how the mighty have fallen? And we'll see
how how that one goes. But now we're going to
take take our adventures to the Rocky Mountain National Park,
where officials have found a body believed to be a
man that went missing after taking a ride share to
Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado last week. A Rocky
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Mountain National Park spokesperson said on Thursday, August fourteenth that
authorities found remains likely belonging to Blake Kikafer, twenty three
years old, from Omaha, Nebraska. A day earlier. The body
was recovered above Emerald Lake. Rocky Mountain National Park rangers
completed an unseen investigation, and the recovery was done by helicopter.
His body was flown to a landing zone in Rocky
(12:04):
Mountain National Park and handed over to the Larimer County
Corner's Office. Search efforts started after Kikifer's family reported him
missing to park rangers on Monday, August eleventh. Kikafer was
last seen in the Upper Beaver Meadows area of the
park on August seventh, around five to twenty pm, when
he was dropped off by the ride share service. The
NPS spokesperson said investigators focused the search on the Emerald
(12:26):
Lake area on Wednesday. Over eighty people took part in
the search yesterday, according to the spokesperson, The Larimer County
Corner's Office will confirm the identity of the body. According
to the Rocky Mountain National Park statement, other than that,
though they don't really give us a cause or a
cause of death or anything. So I guess that investigation
is still going.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Still pending. It sounds like, and you know, the Rocky Mountains,
You just don't think of things like this happening. I
think of John Denver, Rocky Mountain. Hi.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm not going to try to sing it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Sing No, I'm not going to try to sing it.
But certainly a horrible situation.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
No, but Nina Wonder is the ride share person responsible
to something happened before they drove off like it kind
of leaves you wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I would think it would be pretty cut and dry
if they were. And I'm the same way. I was
wondering that as well. But I would think that that
would be pretty easy to figure out to where it
would already be out. Who knows, it could just be
a coincidence. I mean, if the ride shair picks him up,
brings him more, he wants to go let him out,
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and he's done with him and next thing you know,
this guy's never seen again. But you just wouldn't think
about that. You know, that's a big travel destination and
be like that happened at Disney World to me, you know,
just horrible stuff. We'll keep you updated on it, and
we'll go back to Louisiana from Colorado. And this is
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a lawsuit, but it's a civil suit against roadblocks and
a lot of you parents out there, your kids, I'm
sure are like my kids when they were kids and
probably at least played that game, very popular online gaming platform,
and if you're a parent with young kids now, this
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will be a good one listen up to. So Louisiana's
Attorney General, Liz Murrel, has fired a lawsuit in Livingston
Parish at the twenty first Judicial District Court, that is
right where we're recording out of Livingston Parish. The lawsuit
of Ledgen is that Roadblocks and dangers Louisiana children. And
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basically to kind of I guess cut this down a
little bit, what they're alleging, and that is a state
Attorney General's office, is that Roadblocks does not have proper
safety features in place to keep these child predators from
getting on these gaming systems and chatting with children. Now,
(14:59):
let me tell you a little bit of out Roadblocks.
You may not know. Roadblocks has eighty two million daily users.
It is a public company worth over forty billion dollars.
That's with a B. They are no joke. Louisiana is
the first state to file a lawsuit against them. And
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let me tell you the reason for this. Their chat
features and a lot of apps, Roadblocks being no different.
And these sexual predators are going on Roadblocks and they
are basically chasing down these kids chatting with them. But
they're pretending to be a kid.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Their aidge right, and they're implementing things like voice changing
devices so they sound like young kids too when they
chat on the voice portion of the chat or the video.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chat absolutely, and Roadblocks has no safety features really to
speak of to combat that. As a matter of fact,
they don't even ask your age when you logged in
to the app. Fifty six percent of the of the
people playing Roadblocks are kids under the age of seventeen.
Fifty six percent.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Have you ever played it? Have you ever even looked
at it?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I've seen my kids playing it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Okay, I'm not trying to hurt anybody feelings because I
know adults play it. But I went and sat down
with my kids one time to, you know, play it.
It was the boringest thing I've ever done in my life.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You're not a kid, I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so for my point being, for an adult to
play this game on and I know adults do, I'm
not trying to say they don't, but but it's definitely
geared towards a child.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is geared, that's right, and it was marketed that way,
which is why they should have a lot of safety features.
But it's not just the chap features that are disturbing.
So in Roadblocks, you have to create an experience, that's
the whole thing. So you I almost invent a game
inside of the game, like a world, like a world.
And let me give you a couple of examples of
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those worlds. How about Escape from Epstein Island that is
actually on that platform. How about Escape from Ditty that
is on that platform. There's probably one hundred Ditty showing
Ditty Combs games. There's several Epstein games. How about going
to a strip club? You can do that on Roadblocks.
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They have made these experiences where you experience what it's
like to be in a strip club. And this is
an app that is marketed towards kids from Roadblocks. That's
not alleged, that's a fact. And there is no security
safety features. They don't even ask your age. So I
can go on there as a fifty year old man
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and I can say I'm a fourteen year old boy
in chat with a fourteen year old girl and she
didn't know any.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Different, right, And then what they're going to do is
implement things like tricking the kid into giving their address.
And I know you're like, well, how would you trick
a kid? Very easy? Oh man, I have an extra
one of these brand new headsets with the cool mic
look We're such good friends look on mail it to you.
What's your address? Kid gets all excited, drops that address,
kid goes missing.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And guess what. In some cases you don't even have
to do that. They have location features on roadblocks everything.
They can see exactly where you live if you turn
those on. That's how scary.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's very scary.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That application is so the reason that they chose to
sue them civilly in court, from what I understand, and
I was at I was at the actual press conference,
the reason that they're choosing to do this is because
you got to hit these big public, billion dollar companies
where it hurts. Where does it hurt their profit? You
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got to go after their profit. That's the only way
they're going to ever change what they're doing. But they
need some serious safety protocols. They lack safety protocols, and
with the way the world is today, this makes it
so easy for these sexual predators to prey on kids.
(18:59):
And I'm glad well I had to see State of
Louisiana and Attorney General Les Mural step up.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Absolutely because dollars should not be more important than kids' lives.
And that's not being extreme. You can research this on
your own if you want to, but kids have been
kidnapped as a result of using these types of games.
Kids go missing all the time at the look at
the thousands and thousands of kids that are missing in
our country today, and then we hand them a device basically,
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and even if you look my own kids, you tell them,
toll you're blue in the face, don't do this, don't
do this, don't do this, and they're still going to
do it. And finally I had to sit in one
of my little ones down and say, listen, it's what
you don't know that's going to hurt you, right, and
you don't know a lot. You're not old enough for
me to explain the horrors of all of this, you know. Yeah,
And the best bet right now would be to take
those devices from the kids. The best thing you could
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do is to remove them. But we're in such an
electronically inclined world now, that seems kind of hard.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, And that's that's really the issue. You almost can't
function without some sort of seller device. For example, you
can certainly make it where these these apps aren't downloaded
things of that nature. Some phones do have those capabilities. Uh,
But I am glad all my kids are grown. That's
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all I can say, I'm glad they're all.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'm in the thick of it right now too, And
I'm just gonna be completely honest. Okay, I've never been
a tech guru. Everyone who knows me knows that. But
i do care a great deal about my kids, and
I've purchased monitoring subscriptions and things that are just supposed
to be so simple so you don't have to keep
up with all the technological changes and all these apps
and blah blah blah blah blah. And maybe some people
have had great experiences. The one that I had, it
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was so hard to work it because you didn't know
what the hell it was talking about to upload it
and have this and that. And I even spoke to
some other friends of mine that that tried the same
thing that we all ended up canceling it because it
was so difficult to even get the device set up
to be able to monitor. And then they can only
monitor certain types of devices, which they don't tell you
when you sign up, right, So we as a people
(20:59):
are gonna have to make some changes, and I don't
know what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But this is a good start.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well let's go on to Cincinnati,
where a former Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center doctor is
facing multiple federal charges related to child pornography. Howard M. Saul,
a former geneticist and dis morphologist at Cincinnati Children's, was
in federal court Tuesday for charges of transporting and possessing
(21:25):
child porn. According to court documents, a Hamilton County Sheriff's
Office detective received a cyber tip in February regarding searches
for child pornography that originated from Saul's IP address. That
cybertip included an image of two young girls engaging in
sexual conduct. The Sheriff's office then executed a search worn
in June which they seized approximately twenty nine items, including
(21:49):
electronic devices and storage devices. Jeris said to date, as
part of their ongoing review of the seventy three year
old's electronic devices, the FBI has s found more than
one hundred and fIF fifty three thousand images and four
hundred and seventy videos of child's sexual abuse material. He said.
Some of the material found involves victims as young as newborns.
(22:12):
During the search, investigators also it's it's un I can't
I can't even yeah, I can't even envision. I don't
want to, but I can't even make that work in
my brain. During the search, investigators also questioned Saul about
whether he owned any sect child sexual abuse material, and
according to the court documents, he responded, I hope not.
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Saul advised that he has viewed child pornography but removed
it from his devices. That was also according to the
court documents, and he also advised that child pornography bothers him,
and that is why he looks at it. It bothers him,
So that's why he looks at it, right, right, We
believe you, Saul not. Through their investigation, officials have not
(22:54):
found any evidence of child pornography involving patients or children
associated with Cincinnati's Children's Real Quick I would wonder how
they could prove that if there was no face involved,
you know, I feel like that's kind of kind of
a leap there. But Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey said
she encourages anyone who thinks they may be a victim
of SALT to contact detectives. We will continue to seek
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out dangerous individuals and bring justice to victims' families. Transporting
child pornography is pun punishable by at least five years
and up to twenty years in prison. Possessing child pornography
carries a potential maximum penalty of twenty years in prison.
In a statement, Cincinnati children said, the safety and care
of children is at its core what we do and
(23:37):
who we are. We absolutely condemned the exploitation of children.
The statement continues, We are cooperating fully with the authorities,
and Howard Saul is no longer employed with Cincinnati Children's
and that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And it's not their fault. This is one sick individual
that you probably most people would have never thought would
have done. I mean, this guy was obviously smart, you know,
it's just every yeah, I mean, he was probably a
brainiac and you know, a very sick, twisted, disgusting individual
who I hope gets everything he deserves. But again, this
(24:12):
is another story that ties back to these predators, and
in this case, a lot of these sick I'll refrain
from following up on that, but a lot of these
sick individuals that do this, they look at it as
they're not hurting anybody, because they're just pictures. They're not
you know, I'm not out there raping a child. I'm
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just looking at a child.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But how did you become how twisted, and how did
you come into be possessing these that's where you dark
web come on, man, I know, and someone had to
originate these photos, So don't tell me. Where there's a demand,
there's going to be a supply, and so that type
of logic doesn't work. It's sick, right. And then to
think as a parent, think about how you would feel
(24:56):
if you brought your child to this person to you know,
be looked at, which I looked up dis morphology, because
obviously that would be I didn't know what that was, right,
I did, honestly, I didn't know what that was, and
I looked it up and it says that these are
generally pediatricians and they look at birth defects and congenital
defects of children. And so you're thinking, these kids are
already having you know, a birth defector, an issue that's
(25:19):
already So that's a personal thing, you know, when you're
trying to help your kid navigate this. And then to
know that he might be looking at your child as
a sex.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Object or taking pictures well, or taking under.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The guise of medicine. That's sick, and he does what
every predator does, puts themselves in a position of power.
That's not uncommon. And so my heart goes out to
these parents, and my heart goes out to the children
in these photos and videos because they're somewhere and they're
somebody's kids, right, newborns?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Come on, Yeah, God, let's go to Georgia and a
fifty five year old Georgia woman will spend the rest
of her life behind bars for the slaying of her
husband after she shot him following a disagreement about her
seeing other men in their open marriage. Okay, so let's
(26:11):
get into this. When Cheryl Coe was convicted Monday a
murder and aggravated assault in the death of forty eight
year old Luther co the Third, she was sentenced to
life in prison without the possibility of parole, and the
Sheriff's office responded at seven point thirty pm on Jane
twenty third of twenty twenty one. So that case, it's
(26:34):
been taking a while to go through the court system,
which is frustrating. But on twenty twenty one, the Sheriff's
office responded to the co home and the defendant had
called nine one one to report that she had shot
her husband when she mistook him for an intruder. Okay,
so police allegedly told the cops that prior to the shooting,
(26:57):
she consumed four or five angry Orchid hard sider drinks. Yeah,
and she turned into an angry orchid. I guess she
drank those on the porch as her husband worked in
his detached.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's angry orchard. When I say orchid, that's a flower.
I drink angry orchard.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
My husband is not in danger when I drink them.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But well that I don't drink that. I drank beer.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, it's like a.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Woman's beer.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Apple drink anyway, It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's hard sider stuff anyway. So she drank that. So
she was probably pretty drunk. And her husband, she said,
was working in her detached garage, and she reportedly said
she decided to go to bed around seven to fifteen pm,
but she awoke roughly about ten minutes later when the
bedroom door swings open. She thought it was an intruder
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and she just opens fire, saying she was trying to
protect herself. That's what she told police. Herb was well.
She claimed she didn't realize she shot her husband until
she until he said, Cheryl, you shot me. That was
his quote. She said, her story well, the police said
her story fell apart immediately as investigators determined that her
(28:16):
husband had suffered what's done as a contact bullet wound.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, so she was right up on him with a powder.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Burns were basically on his chest. You know. They could
tell that the gun was fired right next to his body,
So she wasn't sleeping in her bed in a you know,
a good distance away. They could prove that. So Coke
then claimed she shot her husband all of a sudden,
the story changed self defense. She said that he came
(28:42):
storming in the room. He tried dragging her r out
of bed. She said, he left the room, so she
took the opportunity to grab the gun while he left
from the night stand, and she fired a warning shot,
which she said made the victim angry. So she said
she pulled trigger the second time and that's what killed him.
(29:02):
She said, I was trying to hit the wall behind
the TV so it would scare him off or make
him leave. I wasn't trying to hit him, but she did.
After co helped paramedics render aid to her husband, he
later died at the hospital, and investigators discovered simmering issues
within the marriage, so a series of text messages in
(29:23):
the days leading up to the sheeting reportedly showed the
couple fighting about their open marriage. Cheryl Coo asked her
husband for permission to see another man later that week.
That's different. He then reportedly asked if she was also
planning on seeing a second man that same day, to
which she responded left out loud. The victim reportedly said
(29:48):
her response turned his stomach. HM imagine that she suggested
they end their open marriage because hey, it's causing issues.
We're fighting over her this open marriage thing, but he
reportedly wanted to keep it going, but with more ground rules.
Lethera Coe reportedly became even more upset when he learned
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his wife was talking about their issues with a friend.
The defendant reiterated her self defense claim when she took
the stand at the trial, and she told the jurors
he was more enraged than he's ever been at me
when this all went down. As why she initially told
cops the shooting was an accident, she claimed it was
(30:30):
because she didn't want to tarnish her husband's reputation. Prosecutors
during closing arguments, pointed out all these conflicting narratives. Look,
if there's one thing you've learned from listening to either
of our podcast it's the truth never changes. So when
you have conflicting narratives, there's a lie in there somewhere
has to be so.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And then she's trying to act like she's his savior. Yeah,
like bit you'll shoot him.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you know she's lying. And according
to his obit, Luther co served in the US Army.
He owned a demolition and road grinding company. Seemed like
a straight up guy. And look, I don't judge, Okay,
open marriage whatever, but you can't kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Right well, either it's open or it's closed. And the
text messages that I'm just I know I didn't hear
the whole trial, but just based on what was sent
right there, he doesn't sound.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like he's, uh, he's too cool on it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, but he doesn't also sound like he's enrage like
he just kind of like is disgusted by how that
and let's put more rules into place means he kind
of I mean, I wouldn't want to open marriage, but
it seems like he respects the marriage enough to say,
let's put more rules in place, so that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Were you can't just be sleeping around with everybody, right,
at least tell me about it first. Maybe that's what
he was saying. And you know she's right in lol
back to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Him, I mean to shoot somebody. Sorry, I know, that's
just yeah, girl, you deserve to be where you're at.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's nuts life. Life.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
She got a life, she did well enjoy it because
all of that over because you wanted to go sleep
with a bunch of men and your husband. Imagine that,
and your husband took issue with it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, well, I mean, and he was apparently letting her
do it to an extent. He just want us rules right?
Two in one day grind rules? No? All right?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
How about punches thrown in a fight that knocked out
at least one man completely unconscious along lake winter set
over the weekend has now prompted Polk Sheriff's count I
love this guy, Polk Sheriff's Grady Judd to announce zero
tolerance for any more raucous behavior on shore and recently
documented that was recently documented in a Facebook video, Hey everyone.
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All right, folks, we have a pat day for you
today in the world of crime. I'm gonna cover a
couple of the headlines that you're gonna hear today, not
gonna cover them all like they usually do, because you know,
I just run out of time to write them. Kelly Jennings,
that's fine, but we're gonna give you a little bit
of what we're going to talk about. New Orleans Mayor
(00:20):
Latoy Cantrell has been accused of a criminal cover up
to keep an affair she was having with her bodyguard,
a seeker. We're going to talk about that, and we're
going to stay in Louisiana for another story. Roadblocks is
getting sued Louisiana being the first date to sue Roadblocks.
We're going to talk about that. A woman has been
(00:43):
shot dead after her husband wanted to add new rules
to their open marriage. Well, I mean, I always thought
you didn't have rules in an open marriage, but apparently
they had some sort of rules. We'll get into what
that exactly means. Authorities have found a body they believe
(01:03):
it to be a twenty three year old man who
disappeared while hailing a ride in the Rocky Mountain National Park.
We're going to talk about that, and we're also going
to talk about a former Cincinnati children's doctor that had
one hundred and fifty thousand child pornography images as well
(01:23):
as hundreds of videos that he was caught with. Kelly's
going to bring you that story, and we got so
much more today. It was such a packed week in
the world of crime that actually I struggled to pick,
you know, not to go crazy and have a twenty
four hour show.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right, we could keep going and going, Oh, it really could.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So we're going to talk about all of that today.
Welcome to Crime Wire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm
Kelly Jennys long week this week, Kelly, with all the
crime stories that have been coming up, and I know
Kelly and I well, you tell him about our little
field trip if you will. Today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Before we recorded this, we've had a long day and
we had the privilege and the honor of speaking with
he's now Mayor McDavid. David McDavid out of Zachary and
so we are working very hard on a Derek Todd
Lee series we were going to be releasing sooner than later.
I know, I've been my listeners have heard me say that,
but we are working hard. And we even went on
(02:24):
one site to some of the places where these victims
were and maybe still are today.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, it was very somber, and so we're going to
be bringing all that your way. I can tell you
Kelly has already recorded episode one of that series. Of course,
we're talking about Unspeakable, a true crime podcast by Kelly Jennings,
So go check that out if you're not already checking
it out, because she's got a big project coming up
(02:52):
with DTL. Excited for that. Now, let's get into the stories,
and we're going to start out in New Orleans, the
Big Easy and I'm going to tell you about Mayor
LaToya Cantrell. She is all over the news, not only
locally but nationally. So what happened well? Officials allege that
she has defrauded the city while trying to keep her
(03:15):
hidden relationship with a police officer that was assigned to
protect her. So New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell was indicted
this past Friday on federal charges of defrauding the city
while trying to keep a romantic relationship with that officer's
secret Cantrell is charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud,
(03:38):
conspiracy to obstruct justice, making false statements, false declarations, and
other charges before a grand jury. Prosecutors allege that her
romantic relationship was with her bodyguard, a guy by the
name of Jeffrey Paul Vappi the second and he served
on the New Orleans Police Department's Executive Protection Unit from
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May of twenty twenty one to April of twenty twenty four.
Now to hide their relations from detections and maximize their
time together. Now because you may wonder, well, I mean,
maybe she just fell in love with her body her
version in Kevin Costin. Yeah, maybe, Yeah, it sounds so romantic. Well,
(04:23):
the problem here is Cantrell and Vappy would exploit their
public positions to develop and implement a scheme to defraud
the City of New Orleans and the New Orleans Police
Department by engaging in personal activities while Vappy claimed to
be on duty and he was paid to be on
(04:44):
duty during those times. Vappy was already facing charges of
wire fraud and making false statements, and he has pleaded
not guilty to those charges. A grand jury returned an
eighteen count indictment on Friday that added Cantrell to the
list in this case and new allegations against Vappy. If convicted,
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Cantrell and Vappi could face years in prison. Some of
the counts outlied in the indictment carry up to five
years in prison each and others up to twenty years
in prison. So this is serious shit here. Yeah, this
is not you know, something where they're not going to
do prison time if they're convicted. The pairs three year
fraud exploited their public authority in position that according to
(05:31):
Michael SIPPs Simpson, who is the acting US Attorney with
the Eastern District of Louisiana, Cantrell was married during the
period that all of this went down, to an attorney
by the name of Jason Cantrell. He died in August
of twenty twenty three. The mayor and Vappi have said
(05:52):
their relationship was strictly professional, but the indictment portrayed it
as personal and intimate. Federal prosecutors allege the two used what'sapp. Now,
WhatsApp is supposed to be what Kelly, it's supposed to
be an application that does what?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, it's not. I don't know what you're looking for her,
but that is not traceable or.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's right, that's right. It encrypts your text. So let
this be a lesson for you that if the police
want to unencrypt something there, I don't think there's an
app out there, at least the federal government that they
can't unencrypt because.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I'll tell you this too, think of the forward thinking.
If you're trying to go through an app that you
think is encrypted, that's right, D D D that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah. And so fifteen thousand messages back and forth they
were able to unencrypt, as well as pictures and audio
clips during an eight month period. It wasn't immediately clear
when the messages were sent. Prosecutors say Cantroll and VAPI
also used the app to intimidate subordinates as a citizen.
(07:01):
More on that in a second delete evidence light of colleagues,
and commit perjury for the purpose of distracting and impeding
investigations into their actions. That be accompanyed Cantrell on fourteen
domestic and international trips to maximize their times together. For example,
during a working trip to working trip to San Francisco
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in April of twenty twenty two, the pair stated extra
day they visited Napa Valley's wineries. That nice. Yeah, and
that he claimed to have worked fifteen hours that day.
Well he did, Oh he worked, Oh he worked. He
heard it. In one text, Cantrell characterized their moments together
as quote, I love the times when we are truly alone.
(07:47):
And I don't know she said it with that deep
of voice, and as and that it quote spoils her
the most. So prosecutors are using that to prove this
was more than a Kevin Costner situation.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I don't ever recall sending any of that to
any of my.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Bosses, right, And so the problem again New Orleans. They
added up how much money New Orleans, the city paid
for these trips, et cetera, seventy thousand dollars in tax money,
essentially to finance this love fest.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
On the backs of the citizens. And that's the thing.
This money comes on the backs of working citizens.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's right. So she's in a bond. And I am
going to cover this entire lawsuit on exposed. I've already
got it printed out. Not lawsuit, actually I misspoke there.
I'm going to the indictment. This is a criminal indictment.
It's not civil. You know, this is a criminal indictment.
I'm going to cover that, so stay tuned, but just
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quickly on this whole scenario. I have a personal experience
with this scenario, and the way that I got this
was about a year, maybe a little over a year ago,
a lady contacted me. She said, I want to do
a podcast, and she was from New Orleans, and so
we kind of talked about what she was wanting to do,
(09:09):
and she mentioned, if you're curious about who I am,
you can google me. I'm very she didn't use the
term famous, but very well known in New Orleans because
I have a lawsuit and I have a lawsuit against
me as well as I have one against Littoya Cantrell.
So I googled that and then I talked to her
about it. Well, this lady had taken a picture of
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Vappy and Cantrol together when it was worktime and they
were basically having drinks and they were sitting at a
table and where her apartment was, she could see them
on from her balcony and she took a picture because
they were holding hands and she's like, hmm, Mayor getting
a little bit cozy with her bodyguard. Well, Cantrell ended
(09:53):
up suing her for like stalking and some other things.
It became a big mess. But that's no doubt what
kicked off this investigation.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Absolutely, And then on top.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Of that the citizen, the intimidated citizen, that's this lady.
I'm not going to say her name because I don't
know if she will want.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Me to, but yeah, well, and the thing is too,
because I know you and I looked into this previously,
is that then Mayor Cantrell used her position to access
un public or non public information on said citizen to
then try to go after this person and then falsified
(10:31):
or basically kind of lied on, allegedly lied on some documents,
and was able to get a protective order against this
citizen that is believed to otherwise otherwise would have not
been given.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So this is deep shit and this is the FEDS.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So I think ninety five percent plus conviction.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think she's cooked. As the kids would.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Say, yeah, and look, I don't know her personally, but
I know I was not happy with the way that
she was maintaining her mayorship of New Orleans. There are
a lot of things I personally disagree with. I don't
live there, so I don't have skin in the game,
but I do travel there and visit there, and so
(11:14):
I've never been a fan of hers, let's say that.
But so when this came out, he didn't surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I wasn't surprised either. I think a lot of people
here if you asked them, they'd say they weren't surprised.
They're my how the mighty have fallen? And we'll see
how how that one goes. But now we're going to
take take our adventures to the Rocky Mountain National Park,
where officials have found a body believed to be a
man that went missing after taking a ride share to
Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado last week. A Rocky
(11:42):
Mountain National Park spokesperson said on Thursday, August fourteenth that
authorities found remains likely belonging to Blake Kikafer, twenty three
years old, from Omaha, Nebraska. A day earlier. The body
was recovered above Emerald Lake. Rocky Mountain National Park rangers
completed an unseen investigation, and the recovery was done by helicopter.
His body was flown to a landing zone in Rocky
(12:04):
Mountain National Park and handed over to the Larimer County
Corner's Office. Search efforts started after Kikifer's family reported him
missing to park rangers on Monday, August eleventh. Kikafer was
last seen in the Upper Beaver Meadows area of the
park on August seventh, around five to twenty pm, when
he was dropped off by the ride share service. The
NPS spokesperson said investigators focused the search on the Emerald
(12:26):
Lake area on Wednesday. Over eighty people took part in
the search yesterday, according to the spokesperson, The Larimer County
Corner's Office will confirm the identity of the body. According
to the Rocky Mountain National Park statement, other than that,
though they don't really give us a cause or a
cause of death or anything. So I guess that investigation
is still going.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Still pending. It sounds like, and you know, the Rocky Mountains,
You just don't think of things like this happening. I
think of John Denver, Rocky Mountain. Hi.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm not going to try to sing it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Sing No, I'm not going to try to sing it.
But certainly a horrible situation.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
No, but Nina Wonder is the ride share person responsible
to something happened before they drove off like it kind
of leaves you wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I would think it would be pretty cut and dry
if they were. And I'm the same way. I was
wondering that as well. But I would think that that
would be pretty easy to figure out to where it
would already be out. Who knows, it could just be
a coincidence. I mean, if the ride shair picks him up,
brings him more, he wants to go let him out,
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and he's done with him and next thing you know,
this guy's never seen again. But you just wouldn't think
about that. You know, that's a big travel destination and
be like that happened at Disney World to me, you know,
just horrible stuff. We'll keep you updated on it, and
we'll go back to Louisiana from Colorado. And this is
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a lawsuit, but it's a civil suit against roadblocks and
a lot of you parents out there, your kids, I'm
sure are like my kids when they were kids and
probably at least played that game, very popular online gaming platform,
and if you're a parent with young kids now, this
(14:12):
will be a good one listen up to. So Louisiana's
Attorney General, Liz Murrel, has fired a lawsuit in Livingston
Parish at the twenty first Judicial District Court, that is
right where we're recording out of Livingston Parish. The lawsuit
of Ledgen is that Roadblocks and dangers Louisiana children. And
(14:35):
basically to kind of I guess cut this down a
little bit, what they're alleging, and that is a state
Attorney General's office, is that Roadblocks does not have proper
safety features in place to keep these child predators from
getting on these gaming systems and chatting with children. Now,
(14:59):
let me tell you a little bit of out Roadblocks.
You may not know. Roadblocks has eighty two million daily users.
It is a public company worth over forty billion dollars.
That's with a B. They are no joke. Louisiana is
the first state to file a lawsuit against them. And
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let me tell you the reason for this. Their chat
features and a lot of apps, Roadblocks being no different.
And these sexual predators are going on Roadblocks and they
are basically chasing down these kids chatting with them. But
they're pretending to be a kid.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Their aidge right, and they're implementing things like voice changing
devices so they sound like young kids too when they
chat on the voice portion of the chat or the video.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Chat absolutely, and Roadblocks has no safety features really to
speak of to combat that. As a matter of fact,
they don't even ask your age when you logged in
to the app. Fifty six percent of the of the
people playing Roadblocks are kids under the age of seventeen.
Fifty six percent.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Have you ever played it? Have you ever even looked
at it?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I've seen my kids playing it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Okay, I'm not trying to hurt anybody feelings because I
know adults play it. But I went and sat down
with my kids one time to, you know, play it.
It was the boringest thing I've ever done in my life.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You're not a kid, I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so for my point being, for an adult to
play this game on and I know adults do, I'm
not trying to say they don't, but but it's definitely
geared towards a child.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is geared, that's right, and it was marketed that way,
which is why they should have a lot of safety features.
But it's not just the chap features that are disturbing.
So in Roadblocks, you have to create an experience, that's
the whole thing. So you I almost invent a game
inside of the game, like a world, like a world.
And let me give you a couple of examples of
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those worlds. How about Escape from Epstein Island that is
actually on that platform. How about Escape from Ditty that
is on that platform. There's probably one hundred Ditty showing
Ditty Combs games. There's several Epstein games. How about going
to a strip club? You can do that on Roadblocks.
(17:18):
They have made these experiences where you experience what it's
like to be in a strip club. And this is
an app that is marketed towards kids from Roadblocks. That's
not alleged, that's a fact. And there is no security
safety features. They don't even ask your age. So I
can go on there as a fifty year old man
(17:41):
and I can say I'm a fourteen year old boy
in chat with a fourteen year old girl and she
didn't know any.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Different, right, And then what they're going to do is
implement things like tricking the kid into giving their address.
And I know you're like, well, how would you trick
a kid? Very easy? Oh man, I have an extra
one of these brand new headsets with the cool mic
look We're such good friends look on mail it to you.
What's your address? Kid gets all excited, drops that address,
kid goes missing.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And guess what. In some cases you don't even have
to do that. They have location features on roadblocks everything.
They can see exactly where you live if you turn
those on. That's how scary.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's very scary.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That application is so the reason that they chose to
sue them civilly in court, from what I understand, and
I was at I was at the actual press conference,
the reason that they're choosing to do this is because
you got to hit these big public, billion dollar companies
where it hurts. Where does it hurt their profit? You
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got to go after their profit. That's the only way
they're going to ever change what they're doing. But they
need some serious safety protocols. They lack safety protocols, and
with the way the world is today, this makes it
so easy for these sexual predators to prey on kids.
(18:59):
And I'm glad well I had to see State of
Louisiana and Attorney General Les Mural step up.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Absolutely because dollars should not be more important than kids' lives.
And that's not being extreme. You can research this on
your own if you want to, but kids have been
kidnapped as a result of using these types of games.
Kids go missing all the time at the look at
the thousands and thousands of kids that are missing in
our country today, and then we hand them a device basically,
(19:25):
and even if you look my own kids, you tell them,
toll you're blue in the face, don't do this, don't
do this, don't do this, and they're still going to
do it. And finally I had to sit in one
of my little ones down and say, listen, it's what
you don't know that's going to hurt you, right, and
you don't know a lot. You're not old enough for
me to explain the horrors of all of this, you know. Yeah,
And the best bet right now would be to take
those devices from the kids. The best thing you could
(19:48):
do is to remove them. But we're in such an
electronically inclined world now, that seems kind of hard.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, And that's that's really the issue. You almost can't
function without some sort of seller device. For example, you
can certainly make it where these these apps aren't downloaded
things of that nature. Some phones do have those capabilities. Uh,
But I am glad all my kids are grown. That's
(20:13):
all I can say, I'm glad they're all.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'm in the thick of it right now too, And
I'm just gonna be completely honest. Okay, I've never been
a tech guru. Everyone who knows me knows that. But
i do care a great deal about my kids, and
I've purchased monitoring subscriptions and things that are just supposed
to be so simple so you don't have to keep
up with all the technological changes and all these apps
and blah blah blah blah blah. And maybe some people
have had great experiences. The one that I had, it
(20:36):
was so hard to work it because you didn't know
what the hell it was talking about to upload it
and have this and that. And I even spoke to
some other friends of mine that that tried the same
thing that we all ended up canceling it because it
was so difficult to even get the device set up
to be able to monitor. And then they can only
monitor certain types of devices, which they don't tell you
when you sign up, right, So we as a people
(20:59):
are gonna have to make some changes, and I don't
know what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But this is a good start.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well let's go on to Cincinnati,
where a former Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center doctor is
facing multiple federal charges related to child pornography. Howard M. Saul,
a former geneticist and dis morphologist at Cincinnati Children's, was
in federal court Tuesday for charges of transporting and possessing
(21:25):
child porn. According to court documents, a Hamilton County Sheriff's
Office detective received a cyber tip in February regarding searches
for child pornography that originated from Saul's IP address. That
cybertip included an image of two young girls engaging in
sexual conduct. The Sheriff's office then executed a search worn
in June which they seized approximately twenty nine items, including
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electronic devices and storage devices. Jeris said to date, as
part of their ongoing review of the seventy three year
old's electronic devices, the FBI has s found more than
one hundred and fIF fifty three thousand images and four
hundred and seventy videos of child's sexual abuse material. He said.
Some of the material found involves victims as young as newborns.
(22:12):
During the search, investigators also it's it's un I can't
I can't even yeah, I can't even envision. I don't
want to, but I can't even make that work in
my brain. During the search, investigators also questioned Saul about
whether he owned any sect child sexual abuse material, and
according to the court documents, he responded, I hope not.
(22:32):
Saul advised that he has viewed child pornography but removed
it from his devices. That was also according to the
court documents, and he also advised that child pornography bothers him,
and that is why he looks at it. It bothers him,
So that's why he looks at it, right, right, We
believe you, Saul not. Through their investigation, officials have not
(22:54):
found any evidence of child pornography involving patients or children
associated with Cincinnati's Children's Real Quick I would wonder how
they could prove that if there was no face involved,
you know, I feel like that's kind of kind of
a leap there. But Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey said
she encourages anyone who thinks they may be a victim
of SALT to contact detectives. We will continue to seek
(23:16):
out dangerous individuals and bring justice to victims' families. Transporting
child pornography is pun punishable by at least five years
and up to twenty years in prison. Possessing child pornography
carries a potential maximum penalty of twenty years in prison.
In a statement, Cincinnati children said, the safety and care
of children is at its core what we do and
(23:37):
who we are. We absolutely condemned the exploitation of children.
The statement continues, We are cooperating fully with the authorities,
and Howard Saul is no longer employed with Cincinnati Children's
and that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And it's not their fault. This is one sick individual
that you probably most people would have never thought would
have done. I mean, this guy was obviously smart, you know,
it's just every yeah, I mean, he was probably a
brainiac and you know, a very sick, twisted, disgusting individual
who I hope gets everything he deserves. But again, this
(24:12):
is another story that ties back to these predators, and
in this case, a lot of these sick I'll refrain
from following up on that, but a lot of these
sick individuals that do this, they look at it as
they're not hurting anybody, because they're just pictures. They're not
you know, I'm not out there raping a child. I'm
(24:34):
just looking at a child.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But how did you become how twisted, and how did
you come into be possessing these that's where you dark
web come on, man, I know, and someone had to
originate these photos, So don't tell me. Where there's a demand,
there's going to be a supply, and so that type
of logic doesn't work. It's sick, right. And then to
think as a parent, think about how you would feel
(24:56):
if you brought your child to this person to you know,
be looked at, which I looked up dis morphology, because
obviously that would be I didn't know what that was, right,
I did, honestly, I didn't know what that was, and
I looked it up and it says that these are
generally pediatricians and they look at birth defects and congenital
defects of children. And so you're thinking, these kids are
already having you know, a birth defector, an issue that's
(25:19):
already So that's a personal thing, you know, when you're
trying to help your kid navigate this. And then to
know that he might be looking at your child as
a sex.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Object or taking pictures well, or taking under.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The guise of medicine. That's sick, and he does what
every predator does, puts themselves in a position of power.
That's not uncommon. And so my heart goes out to
these parents, and my heart goes out to the children
in these photos and videos because they're somewhere and they're
somebody's kids, right, newborns?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Come on, Yeah, God, let's go to Georgia and a
fifty five year old Georgia woman will spend the rest
of her life behind bars for the slaying of her
husband after she shot him following a disagreement about her
seeing other men in their open marriage. Okay, so let's
(26:11):
get into this. When Cheryl Coe was convicted Monday a
murder and aggravated assault in the death of forty eight
year old Luther co the Third, she was sentenced to
life in prison without the possibility of parole, and the
Sheriff's office responded at seven point thirty pm on Jane
twenty third of twenty twenty one. So that case, it's
(26:34):
been taking a while to go through the court system,
which is frustrating. But on twenty twenty one, the Sheriff's
office responded to the co home and the defendant had
called nine one one to report that she had shot
her husband when she mistook him for an intruder. Okay,
so police allegedly told the cops that prior to the shooting,
(26:57):
she consumed four or five angry Orchid hard sider drinks. Yeah,
and she turned into an angry orchid. I guess she
drank those on the porch as her husband worked in
his detached.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's angry orchard. When I say orchid, that's a flower.
I drink angry orchard.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
My husband is not in danger when I drink them.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But well that I don't drink that. I drank beer.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, it's like a.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Woman's beer.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Apple drink anyway, It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's hard sider stuff anyway. So she drank that. So
she was probably pretty drunk. And her husband, she said,
was working in her detached garage, and she reportedly said
she decided to go to bed around seven to fifteen pm,
but she awoke roughly about ten minutes later when the
bedroom door swings open. She thought it was an intruder
(27:53):
and she just opens fire, saying she was trying to
protect herself. That's what she told police. Herb was well.
She claimed she didn't realize she shot her husband until
she until he said, Cheryl, you shot me. That was
his quote. She said, her story well, the police said
her story fell apart immediately as investigators determined that her
(28:16):
husband had suffered what's done as a contact bullet wound.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, so she was right up on him with a powder.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Burns were basically on his chest. You know. They could
tell that the gun was fired right next to his body,
So she wasn't sleeping in her bed in a you know,
a good distance away. They could prove that. So Coke
then claimed she shot her husband all of a sudden,
the story changed self defense. She said that he came
(28:42):
storming in the room. He tried dragging her r out
of bed. She said, he left the room, so she
took the opportunity to grab the gun while he left
from the night stand, and she fired a warning shot,
which she said made the victim angry. So she said
she pulled trigger the second time and that's what killed him.
(29:02):
She said, I was trying to hit the wall behind
the TV so it would scare him off or make
him leave. I wasn't trying to hit him, but she did.
After co helped paramedics render aid to her husband, he
later died at the hospital, and investigators discovered simmering issues
within the marriage, so a series of text messages in
(29:23):
the days leading up to the sheeting reportedly showed the
couple fighting about their open marriage. Cheryl Coo asked her
husband for permission to see another man later that week.
That's different. He then reportedly asked if she was also
planning on seeing a second man that same day, to
which she responded left out loud. The victim reportedly said
(29:48):
her response turned his stomach. HM imagine that she suggested
they end their open marriage because hey, it's causing issues.
We're fighting over her this open marriage thing, but he
reportedly wanted to keep it going, but with more ground rules.
Lethera Coe reportedly became even more upset when he learned
(30:09):
his wife was talking about their issues with a friend.
The defendant reiterated her self defense claim when she took
the stand at the trial, and she told the jurors
he was more enraged than he's ever been at me
when this all went down. As why she initially told
cops the shooting was an accident, she claimed it was
(30:30):
because she didn't want to tarnish her husband's reputation. Prosecutors
during closing arguments, pointed out all these conflicting narratives. Look,
if there's one thing you've learned from listening to either
of our podcast it's the truth never changes. So when
you have conflicting narratives, there's a lie in there somewhere
has to be so.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And then she's trying to act like she's his savior. Yeah,
like bit you'll shoot him.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you know she's lying. And according
to his obit, Luther co served in the US Army.
He owned a demolition and road grinding company. Seemed like
a straight up guy. And look, I don't judge, Okay,
open marriage whatever, but you can't kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Right well, either it's open or it's closed. And the
text messages that I'm just I know I didn't hear
the whole trial, but just based on what was sent
right there, he doesn't sound.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like he's, uh, he's too cool on it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, but he doesn't also sound like he's enrage like
he just kind of like is disgusted by how that
and let's put more rules into place means he kind
of I mean, I wouldn't want to open marriage, but
it seems like he respects the marriage enough to say,
let's put more rules in place, so that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Were you can't just be sleeping around with everybody, right,
at least tell me about it first. Maybe that's what
he was saying. And you know she's right in lol
back to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Him, I mean to shoot somebody. Sorry, I know, that's
just yeah, girl, you deserve to be where you're at.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's nuts life. Life.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
She got a life, she did well enjoy it because
all of that over because you wanted to go sleep
with a bunch of men and your husband. Imagine that,
and your husband took issue with it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, well, I mean, and he was apparently letting her
do it to an extent. He just want us rules right?
Two in one day grind rules? No? All right?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
How about punches thrown in a fight that knocked out
at least one man completely unconscious along lake winter set
over the weekend has now prompted Polk Sheriff's count I
love this guy, Polk Sheriff's Grady Judd to announce zero
tolerance for any more raucous behavior on shore and recently
documented that was recently documented in a Facebook video, Hey everyone.
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