Vice-President Trump and The Thievery Of Medicare DISadvantage

Biden's downward slide continues and health insurance companies find more ways to rob you.

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President Putin, President Putin, You'vegot to be President Putin, President Lensky.
I'm so focused on beating Putin.We gotta worry about it anyway.
You gotta worry about it. Youare a hell. What concerns do you
have about Vice President Harris's ability tobeat Donald Trump if she were at the

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top of the ticket. Look,I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to
be vice president, so I thinkshe was not qualified to be president.
Let's start there. Let's start there. This is face Paul America. I'm
Beowulf Franklin. And that was PresidentBiden introducing President Zelenski of Ukraine as President

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Putin, correcting himself a moment laterand referring to Vice President Kamala Harris as
vice as vice President Trump, Ishouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh. I'm

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it's it's really not a joking matter. Like as as the Democrats say,
and it's true, and as theycling to believe themselves, democracy is on
the line here, and it reallyis. Democracy is on the line.

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There's a very good chance, avery high probability that if Donald Trump becomes
president of the United States, ifhe wins the election in November. If
he becomes president in twenty twenty five, that we will no longer have even

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a semblance of a democracy in thiscountry. It's a very dangerous prospect,
a very dangerous prospect. And theperson that is running against him, the
main individual, as put forward thusfar by the main opposition party to Trump

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and the Republican Party, the Democrats, is not always able to tell the
difference between Vladimir Zelensky and Vladimir Putin, and Vice President Harris and and Vice
and Vice President Trump. I mean, you have to laugh. What else

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can you do. It's terrifying,It's absolutely terrifying. And he's still refusing
to step out of the presidential campaign. He's still refusing to step aside,
like God, help us, helpus. Oh he has to go.

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He listen. I've heard so manygood, smart people who are Democrats like
just get in line behind Joe Bidenand refuse to see the evidence that is
before their eyes. It could notbe more blatant, it could not be

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more obvious. And Joe Biden inthis condition, which is getting worse,
it's not improving. It wasn't justa bad debate, this is an ongoing
thing. I'm Sorry, he's gottenold and his mental acuity has declined to

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the point where he is no longer, as I've said again and again,
a viable candidate for president of theUnited States. There were questions years ago
about this. And it's only because, thank goodness, there was this early
debate that it was just laid barefor the entire world to see. Joe

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has got to go. He's gotto go. Yes, President Biden referred
to Vice President Kamala Harris as VicePresident Trump, flubbing his response to the
first question posed to him in amuch awaited news conference during a summit of

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NATO leaders. And again, thiswas these remarks, this press conference.
It's the first press conference he's conductedsince November, the first press conference he's
conducted this year. And this wassupposed to be, again, a big
opportunity for him to be able toshow how together he was. He didn't

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do it. He had opportunities before. Yeah, he got mad in that
one speech. Yeah he was readingoff a teleprompter. It doesn't work.
He's not able to do this anymore. Mister Biden was asked by a Reuters
reporter if he had concerns about MissHarris's viability to beat former President Donald J.

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Trump if he stepped aside, somethinghe has said emphatically that he will
not do, despite pressure from manywithin his party. How can we have
a system where it can be downto one man, the choice of one

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man, the ego of one individual, whether we're going to have a democracy
or we're going to have a dictatorship. How can that be down to one
man? And that's the problem,and that really fundamentally because of that narrow

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bandwidth for power, because it restson just that one individual, those choices,
that's why we're in the position thatwe are. It should not be
this way. The Democratic Party shouldnot be set up that way. No
one who's in a position to likebe the next leader. There should be

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checks and balances. But within theDemocratic Party and certainly within the Republican Party,
there are no checks and balances.I mean, Trump is horrible and
the Republicans are horrible. The structureof the Democratic Party, which from what
I've heard, there are virtually nooptions aside from Joe Biden voluntarily stepping aside

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to make sure that we have afighting chance against Donald Trump and a dictatorship.
That's insane, that's nuts that's aform of authoritarianism in and of itself.
It's certainly not democratic. It's noteven remotely democratic. Mister Biden had

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another gaff there's one from me earlierin the evening, introducing President Vladimir Zelenski
of Ukraine as President Putin after ameeting of NATO leaders in Washington. The
gaffes could not have been more illtimed for the Biden campaign, coming as

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the president battles a crisis of confidenceamong Democrats. Considering if he is the
best candidate to beat mister Trump inNovember, he's not. He's probably the
worst candidate to defeat Trump in November. Almost anyone else would stand a better
chance of defeating Donald Trump, almostanyone. The Democrats know it. The

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Democrats know it. At least threecongressional Democrats called for President Biden to exit
the presidential race in the immediate aftermathof this news conference at NATO. At
the NATO summit, just moments afterthe briefing ended, Representative Jim Himes of

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Connecticut, the top Democrat on theHouse Intelligence Committee, called for Biden to
end his bid, saying the President'slegacy of unparalleled public service undeniable achievement and
unconditional patriotism is at risk if hedoes not step away from the campaign.
I have a lot of problems withthat statement. I mean, I'm glad

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he's asking him to step away.I look, I'm not going to split
hairs at this point. He needsto be gone. But even aside from
his age, Biden has a lotof problems with what he's done in his
presidency, what he did throughout hispolitical career. There are a lot of

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problems. But okay, Jim Himes. Moments after the briefing ended, he
came out with a statement, So, so can you imagine your Congressman,
Jim Heims of Connecticut Democrat. You'resitting there and say, oh boy,
okay, that's great. Okay,he's gonna get back in there. NATO's

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sum Oh he's going to show.He's going to hit it out of the
park. Gojo, gojo. Okay. He's sitting there and watching, and
then he hears President Putin and VicePresident Donald Trump. He said, oh
crap, all right, guys.He calls his staff in right up a

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statement, that's the last straw.These poor democrats, these poor democrats.
The twenty twenty four election will definethe future of American democracy, and we
must put forth the strongest candidate possibleto confront the threat posed by Trump's promised

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mega authoritarianism. Heim said, andhe's right, He truly is right about
that. I no longer believe thatis Joe Biden, and I hope that
as he has through a lifetime ofpublic service, he will continue to put
our nation first and as he promised, make way for a new generation of
leaders. That we have to dependon him doing that voluntarily is just insane.

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If there's a twenty fifth amendment forthe sitting president of the United States,
there ought to be a twenty fifthamendment for a nominee of a major
presidential party, a mechanism within theparty to make sure this kind of insanity

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doesn't happen. And there were more. There were more other Democrats who dropped
off, who dropped off the Bidenbandwagon right after they saw this press conference.
We're going to get to that ina moment, but we got to

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you about more of those democrats whohave fallen off the bandwagon. I'm beol

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Facepaumamerica dot com. So as Iwas saying a number of additional Democrats after
hearing President Biden at the NATO summitcall President Zelenski, President Putin, and

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call Vice President Harris vice President Trump, have fallen off the Biden bandwagon.
There was Congressman Jim Himes who wetalked about. Democratic Representative Eric Sorenson,

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who is running in a competitive districtin Illinois. Yeah. You know,
if you're at a competitive district,if your polling is close with your Republican
opponent, you might not want aJoe Biden who doesn't know what day it

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is at the top of the ticketto drag down your numbers. You might
not want that. Representative Sorenson saidhe is hopeful that Biden will put country
over party and step aside in hiscampaign for president. And Representative Scott Peters,

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Democrat from California, who just Tuesdayhad told reporters he believed Biden deserves
reelection, in a statement first obtainedby Politico, said that while the nation
owes an enormous debt of gratitude toBiden for saving us from a second term

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of a Trump presidency in twenty twenty, the President should now withdraw from the
campaign because the stakes are high andwe are on a losing course. What
a difference a couple of days makes. Tuesday, he deserves the reelection Thursday.

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The President should now withdraw from thecampaign. As of Thursday night,
twenty. Congressional Democrats have either publiclyor privately urged Biden to step aside since
his faltering debate performance two weeks ago, fearing he will lose the White House

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to former President Donald Trump and endangerthe party's gains in the House and Senate.
They're right, and there are alot more out there that are just
too frightened to come forward because they'rethey're worried it's going to damage their careers.
Ooh oh oh, it might likelook good on my resume if the

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Democratic Party got mad to me.And then they're saying, this is the
most important election ever. This isthe end of democracy. You know,
I don't think you really believe that. If you if your concerns are about

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your career, I believe it's true. I believe this could mean the end
of democracy, and so your careerbe damned. This is a time to
stand up. This is a timeto get out there and say we've got

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to take action. What other timeis there. If you're not going to
stand up now when democracy is onthe line and say what you know to
be true and act on it,then when will you? If not now?
When? And the polls are notlooking good. They're not looking good

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at all. They're looking very,very bad. As a matter of fact,
polling averages aggregated by five point thirtyeight and Real Clear Politics show Trump
surged and Biden dipped significantly in nationalpolls after the June twenty seventh debate.

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The averages put Biden a few pointsbehind Trump. Biden should be trouncing Trump.
I mean, think about it.He was recently convicted of thirty four
felony counts. He was found liablefor sexual abuse. At this time in

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twenty twenty, Biden was beating Trumpby almost ten points. It's also important
to remember that Trump outperformed the pollsboth in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty,

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and if he's consistently leading Biden,then probably the result, the actual result
is going to be him beating himby even more than that. So it's
not just a matter of it's withinthe margin of error or it's a statistical

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dead heat, it's not. Andif you look at the swing states,
the battleground states, and again,my friends, I'll tell you this over
and over and over and over again, the main polls that you should be
paying attention to are the state polls. We don't have national elections in this

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country because of the electoral College.It only matters what happens in your state,
and then the electoral votes for thestate go to the candidate that wins.
By and large. Pollsters at theKook Political Report changed the status of

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three battleground states from toss ups tolean Republican after the debate, and according
to the combined data of the NewYork Times Siena College polls, Biden is
seeing an extraordinary dip. Trump nowhas not just his biggest lead over Biden
in this election cycle, but hislargest lead over Democrat since his twenty sixteen

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White House bid. New York Timeschief political correspondent and pol guru Nate Cohne
told The New Yorker in a recentinterview there are no precedents in recent memory
for presidents to have approval ratings likeBiden's who then go on to win reelection.

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The bottom line there is if it'sBiden, Biden's gonna lose. If
Biden is the nominee, if Bidenis the Democrat that we go in and
have a choice on in November,then Biden's going to lose and Trump's gonna

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win. That's why you have totake this seriously. This is not just
people being disloyal to Joe Biden.There are higher loyalties than to Joe Biden.
There are higher loyalties than to theDNC, there are higher loyalties than

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to the Democratic Party. There shouldbe a loyalty to the United States of
America and to democracy and to therule of the people. That is what
there should be a loyalty to.And anyone who sees what's been going on

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with Joe Biden, it should beclear as day what you need to do.
So do it, and you know, I'll tell you something else.
Here's a little mental treat for youtoo. Republicans won't know what to do.

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They're not going to know what hithim if Biden goes away. First
of all, and this is probablymore important, there's a chance for a
new candidate, someone younger, someonemore vigorous, someone with even better policy
ideas. Frankly, in my opinion, it wouldn't take too much. It's

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an opportunity. And then the Republicanshave nothing. What are the Republicans have
Project twenty twenty five, which basicallymeans authoritarianism for America and other than that,

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they don't have a strategy The Atlantics. T. M. Alberta recently
reported how Donald Trump and his teamfought doggedly for years to create an image
of Joe Biden being in cognitive declineand not up for the job as president.
And maybe you know, I understandif this catches you by surprise,

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because President Biden was cloistered and ifyou don't pay any attention to if you
don't monitor, if you don't giveany credence to right wing media, you
might not even have heard of this. But if you listen to right wing
media for the last four years,they've been going off on this for a

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long time, a long time.And it's not because it's completely untrue.
It's because there is a kernel oftruth to it. When they started,
there was like even in twenty twenty, you could see this, and they

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understood that viscerally, and they wentfor the jugular and they're gonna go continue
to go for the jugular because thisplays to do exactly what they've been saying
unless he steps down, and thenwhat do they have? All that is
wasted? If Biden steps down,what are they gonna do? What are

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they gonna do? They won't knowwhat to do, they will not So
anyway, they fought doggedly, theRepublicans and Donald Trump did for years to
create an image of Joe Biden beingcognitive decline and not up to the job
as president. This is from Njaydot com out of New Jersey. The

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idea behind it was their best pathto victory, But after tens of millions
of people watched Biden stumble through adebate and deduced that maybe the president's age
is cause for concern, Alberta reportedTeam Trump had a problem on their hands.

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What if Biden drops out and Trumpis forced to face a more favorable
candidate. True. Matthew Dowd,a former GOP strategist for George W.
Bush and Dick Cheney, posted toTwitter after Brennan Buck, a former hillstaffer,
posted, a lot of Republicans aregoing to lose their minds if they

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really do replace Biden. They arethe Republicans are going to lose their minds
and they're not going to know whatto do, and they're going to panic.
And the Democratic Party is going tobe invigorated. The Democratic Party will
be on the ascendant, The republicCan Party in Trump will be on the

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descendant, and we will have achance at democracy in the United States of
America, and we will vanquish dictatorship. And it's a shadow. I'm Beowulf
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We will be back in a momentwith some news that doesn't have anything directly
to do with Biden, but it'ssomething you should know about. Another chapter
in an ongoing saga about Medicare disadvantage. This is face Palm America. We

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dot com. I've talked to youmany times on this program about the system
referred to as Medicare advantage, andI didn't invent it. It was actually
Tom Hartman who came up with thephrase Medicare disadvantage. At least to the

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best of my knowledge, that's thefirst place that I heard it, and
I think he's absolutely right. AndI've told you before on this show that
I have had loved ones that havebeen robbed of medical care that they were
entitled to because a private insurance companythat was part of Medicare disadvantage took what

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my loved one was entitled to anddecided not to give it to them because
they wanted to make a profit underMedicare advantage. These private insurance companies manage
quote unquote Medicare, and so theyget the money from Medicare via us,

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the taxpayers, and they run thesystems of care and their private companies,
and their prime directive is to makemoney. And how do they do that
in a situation such as I've outlined. They cut back on benefits, and
that's what happened to one of myrelatives. It's enraging, it's disgusting,

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and Medicare disadvantage should be dismantled.Another way that they make money through Medicare
disadvantage, aside from dedying benefits thatare outlined in Medicare under their rules,
is by billing things which shouldn't bebilled for and running up the bill for

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you and me, the taxpayers ofthe United States of America. And I
don't always agree with things that theWall Street Journal has to say, but
they have done a remarkable piece ofinvestigative reporting. In a story that is
entitled, Insurers pocketed fifty billion dollarsfrom Medicare for diseases no doctor treated.

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You can do a search for thatstory on the search engine of your choice.
I'm going to read parts of ithere, but you should go and
read that story in its entirety.Again, Insurers pocketed fifty billion dollars from
Medicare for diseases no doctor treated.From the Wall Street Journal. Private insurers

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involved in the government's Medicare disadvantage program. I don't even want to say Medicare
advantage. That's the word that's printed, but it's Medicare disadvantage, and I'm
going to say it that way.Private insurers involved in the Medicare in the
government's Medicare disadvantage program, made hundredsof thousands of questionable diagnoses that triggered extra

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taxpayer funded payments from twenty eighteen totwenty twenty one. A Wall Street Journal
analysis of billions of Medicare records foundthe questionable diagnoses included some for potentially deadly
illnesses, such as aids for whichpatients have received no subsequent care, and

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for conditions people couldn't possibly have.The analysis showed often neither the patients nor
their doctors had any idea. Sothese private insurers are billing the government for
diseases and conditions which don't exist topad their profits. They're stealing from people

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who are on Medicare, they're stealingfrom senior citizens. They're stealing from you
and me, the taxpayer. That'swhat's happening. Medicare advantage, sorry,
Medicare disadvantage. The four hundred andfifty billion dollar a year system in which
private insurers oversee Medicare benefits grew outof the idea that the private sector could

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provide healthcare more economically. What aquaint idea, What a quaint idea.
That's nonsense. Anytime you hear someonesay, well a business could do it
more economically, reach for your wallet. Hold onto your wallet because you're about

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to get robbed. The only principlethat businesses run on, and they're not
necessarily bad things if they're properly regulatedand they don't become too large. But
the prime directive of a business isto make money. That's what they're there
for. That's what they do it'snot to save the taxpayers money. It's

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to give its shareholders money. That'sthe point of a business. Medicare disadvantage
has swelled over the last two decadesto cover more than half of the sixty
seven million seniors and disabled people onMedicare. Instead of saving taxpayers money,
Medicare disadvantage has added tens of billionsof dollars in costs. Researchers and some

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government officials have said one reason isthat insurers can add diagnoses to ones that
patients own doctors submit. Did youhear that insurers can add diagnoses to ones
that patients own doctors submit, sothey can just add whatever they want.

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They're not the doctors. They're notseeing the patients. They've never seen the
patients. They're just looking at theat the charts. They have no relationship
with them, and yet they canadd stuff to the bill. That's nuts.
Now. Medicare gave insureds that optionso they could catch conditions that doctors

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neglected to record. They're not ina position to know. They're not the
doctor. Many diagnoses were added forwhich patients received no treatment or that contradicted
their doctor's views. Because they don'treally care about you. They don't care
what the doctor says. They justwant to make more money. They just

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want to make more money. Theinsurers make new diagnoses after receipt, reviewing
medical charts, sometimes using artificial intelligence, and sending nurses to visit patients in
their homes. They paid doctors foraccess to patient records and reward patients who
agree to home visits with gift cardsand other financial benefits. Insurers added diabetic

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cataract diagnoses to one hundred and fortyeight patients treated by doctor Howard Chen,
an ophthalmologist in Goodyear, Arizona.He said he saw at most one or
two such cases a year. Sothey're just adding fake stuff and billing you
and me the taxpayer for it,he said, charges insures forty dollars per

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patient. Sorry, he said,he charges insurers forty dollars per patient to
cover his costs for providing them withmedical charts. If they're just making stuff
up, then why do they Whatdo they even want or need with my
charts? Said Chen? It's adarn good question. In all, Medicare
paid insurers about fifty billion dollars fordiagnoses added by just by insurers in the

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three years ending in twenty twenty one. The Journals analysis showed some diagnoses claimed
to buy insurers were demonstrably false becausethe conditions already had been cured. More
than sixty six thousand Medicare disadvantage patientswere diagnosed with diabetic cataracts even though they

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already had gotten cataract surgery, whichreplaces the damaged lens of an eye with
a plastic insert. Just making stuffup because they want the money. They're
stealing from you. They're stealing fromthe elderly, they're stealing from the disabled.
That's what these companies are doing.That's what Medicare disadvantage allows them to

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do. Another thirty six thousand diabeticcataract patients didn't receive any medical services or
prescription drugs related to diabetes. Abouteighteen thousand Medicare disadvantage recipients had insured driven
diagnoses of HIV, the virus thatcauses AIDS, but weren't receiving treatment for

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the virus from doctors. Between twentyeighteen and twenty twenty one. Each HIV
diagnosis generates about three thousand dollars ayear in added payments to insures. Let's
see that's it's eighteen thousand. Sowe're talking about just that one set of

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bogus billings alone is what fifty fourmillion dollars to insurance companies that they aren't
owed. Just in that one instance, insure driven diagnoses by United Health for
diseases that no doctor treated generated eightpoint seven billion dollars in twenty twenty one

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payments to the company. The Journal'sanalysis showed United Health's net income that year
was about seventeen billion dollars. Theyare stealing from you, They are stealing
from us. When Congress conceived ofthe Medicare disadvantage program decades ago, the

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hope was that insurers would make Medicaremore efficient. My god, these people
live in cloud cuckoo land. Intraditional medicare, doctors and hospitals get paid
for each service they incentive to providemore. The idea behind Medicare a disadvantage
was to pay private insurers and alump sum to cover all services, giving

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them an incentive to keep their patientshealthier. The only thing it gave them
an incentive to do was to overbilland steal from us. To protect insurers
from the risk of winding up withsicker than average patients. Oh yeah,
we got to protect them. Wegot to protect the insurers, these massive

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companies that make billions of dollars.The government allowed bigger payments for certain serious
health conditions, partly because of that. Medicare disadvantage has cost the government an
extra five hundred and ninety one billion, over half a trillion dollars in the
past eighteen years, compared with whatMedicare would have cost without the help of

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the private plans, according to aMarch report by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission,
so an extra half a trillion dollarsover half a trillion dollars more than
it would have cost if the governmenthad done it themselves. Don't let people

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tell you, well, we gotto run the government like business. This
is what happens. This is whathappens. They steal from you. Adjusted
for inflation, by the way,that amounts to four thousand, three hundred
dollars per US tax filer. Canyou afford that? Can you afford an
extra four thousand, three hundred dollarsto give to a giant health insurance company.

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Academic researchers and government investigators have raisedquestions about high rates of insured driven
diagnoses in Medicare disadvantage. In atwenty twenty one report, the Inspector General
that oversees Medicare found the agency spentbillions of dollars based on insured driven diagnoses
for which patients received, of course, no care from doctors. In a

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twenty nineteen whistleblower lawsuit by a Floridadoctor, it was alleged that an insurer
submitted inaccurate diagnoses, including a Medicaredisadvantage patient's foot had been amputated when it
wasn't. This is what we haveto stop. In September, Insure a

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Signet group agreed to pay one hundredand seventy two million dollars to settle fraud
allegations by the Justice Department. Theyweren't put in jail, they weren't kicked
out of the Medicare disadvantage program.They just had to pay one hundred and
seventy two million dollars, which toyou and me is an enormous amount of
money, But compared to the millionbillions, as opposed to millions of dollars

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that they're making from this is chumpchange. End Medicare disadvantage. Now,
that's what I have to say again. The name of the story if you
want to read the full story isinsurers pocketed fifty billion dollars from Medicare for
diseases no doctor treated. That's fromthe Wall Street Journal. Thank you for

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listening today. I'm BeO Wolf Rocklin. This is face Palm America. You
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