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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, well, well, what do we have here. The most
time of the year is almost upon us, as the
weather could be getting cooler, the days may be getting shorter,
but most importantly, the lights are the brightest. That's right.
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Football season is back and we are only a few
weeks away from the cracking of the pads, the smashing
of the helmets, the screaming of the fans, the playing
of the bands, and all the other stuff that comes
with it. And like the song says, it is simply
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and we're back Fan Poll Sports, the true tech sports
podcast for the true text of sports fan Once again,
I'm your host, Ronnie Langford, and back at it, back
under the bright lights, back in the craziness that is
this podcast with the main man, the double Nickel, the
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fifty five grand the I don't want to call him
the Jimmy, the Greek of the pod world because his
betting sucks. The one and the only, the legend in
his own mind, Mark Mers, and what's up? Mark, Welcome
back to the program, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Hello, Hello toing On, and yeah, welcome to Ronald as well,
or she'd just say all gas, no breaks. It's good
to be back with you, man, and we're here to
talk college football, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Dude. It sounds like people out in your area need
to learn how to use some breaks with some of
the craziness. You were telling me before we started.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
No lie, dude, no, no freaking live bro.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So so yeah, dude, it's just crazy, dude. It's that
time of year. Brother, It's about two weeks out. I believe.
I believe Week zero starts next weekend. There's a game
in Ireland, Iowa State versus Kansas State. How that game
got booked and how that game got put in in
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Dublin or wherever it's going to be over there, I
have no idea, but but that'll be the unofficial start
of college football. The big weekend, the kickoff weekend is
obviously Labor Day weekend, August thirtieth. Some fantastic games if
you are in college football fan happening that weekend. Obviously,
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my Texas Longhorns going up to the suck town that
is Columbus, Ohio to play the reigning defending national champion
Ohio State suck Eyes. So that'll be that'll be an
eleven o'clock, eleven o'clock kickoff. Then you've got some other
really big matchups throughout the weekend. You have Miami and
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Notre Dame, you have Florida State, Alabama, LSU versus Clemson
one that you might be interested in, A and m
hosts UTSA. So dude, it's just I mean, it's gonna
be an action packed weekend, action packed weekend of football.
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Uh So I figured we you know, we we'd come
out of the gates a little strong, but you know,
maybe not get into our big preview show yet. So
I said, I sent you a couple of topics. I thought,
maybe you know, we could we could kind of go
back and forth on Obviously, in today's football world, it's
all about the offense. Like you said, no gas, all gas,
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no breaks. So you know, there's big numbers by these
offensive players. There's not as many big numbers for the
defensive side, but there are still some freaks on the
defensive side of the ball. Man. So it made me wonder.
It made me think, when you look back on our
time growing up in the mid to late eighties and
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into the nineties, who were some of the football stars that,
like you, enjoyed watching on Saturday. I'm pretty sure I
know one of them was the guy that went to
Georgia and won the Heisman. But there may be there
may be a few other guys that you enjoyed watching
from back in the day. Give me your thoughts on
some of the players that you enjoyed back in the day.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, Man, when I was kind of bringing up this
list in my mind. And it's kind of funny, man,
when you think about the eighties and the nineties, you
try and compare to today. Everything is so quarterback centric now, right,
you know, it's not like it used to be because
back in the old days, you know, you kind of
try to establish the run and you try to get
these I guess these beasts of toting the rock down the.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Field kind of thing in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And the early nineties, you know, and then it slowly
starts to transition into the you know, how many, how many?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
How many touchdowns can this quarterback throw? How many?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You know, the offenses were changing, they were becoming more
pro style in a sense, right, and I think I
mean too it could be to a detriment and it
could be to you know, the opposite of that. But
all I could think of, man, was all these like
great running backs that that just I mean, you when
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you tuned in, and you know, it may or may
not have been flashy. It might have been ugly, it
might have been powered, it might have been you know, finesse,
it might have been a.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Little bit of both.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But yeah, I mean I had a lot of just
flashbacks of players and I just texted him to you.
I'm sure you're looking at him, Marcus Allen Man, you
know to me, you know back in those days, you know,
when you had these these guys that that just kind
of just took over games. And they weren't receivers, they
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weren't the quarterbacks slinging it down the field. It was
just you know, just your go back to your basics
kind of football.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You know, you you lined up, you created a hole
for these guys.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But it was a little bit more than that, because
these guys were extremely talented.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know, Marcus Sonen's the top of my list.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Hershel Walker, Bo Jackson, and Ricky Williams and Barry Sanders
and these five guys that I just I can't just
not remember that. You can't just let that just kind
of slip out of your mind. And really, really, to
be honest, I think Ricky Williams should be like my
you know, top tier you know guy as well, because
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I think, I mean just because he played for ten,
that doesn't mean that he wasn't a great not just
a good player.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He was a great player.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And man, I mean I'll start with him because let's
talk about Texas.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Might as well. We're in Texas, right.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
There was a stat there was a stat that I
looked up on him, and it looked like he had
broken he had broken twenty door sets record, you know,
when he was at Texas and his tenure, right, and
I think it was a twenty two year like you know,
you know what I mean, a twenty two year like
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record that had had stood and just him the physical
specimen that he was and him just taking.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Over games and he would just wear you down.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, he was like a lot like about Jackson
in a sense, not like a Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Barry Sanders was.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
More of an elusive spin around, you know, juke you
you know, make you looking at the fool, you know.
And I would have hated to in all kinds of
ways just not been in front of these guys to
make a tackle because basically you were a highlight. You
were the poster waiting to happen and with Ricky Williams
for me, and you know, you and I were in
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we were in the ones.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Of all things and this.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Wow of all things, and that was that guy was
just really special, man.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And I'll let you, I guess, elaborate a little bit
more on him.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So you know you talk about him breaking Dorsets record,
I mean Dorset was on the sideline that afternoon in Austin, Man,
and uh, you know it was against the Aggies he
broke he broke a sixty yard run to break the
record in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know, the stadium was electric, that the place was
on fire. It was. It was an incredible thing. It's
a memory. You know, they do these countdowns and they
put like when they get to number thirty four of
how many days that that play always seems to show
up on ESPN or Longhorn, Twitter, whatever it is. Man.
But I mean, he was, dude, He was so special.
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And what people don't understand is that like his first
year and a half with Texas, he was a full
back dude. So he wasn't even a full time running
back until you know, about midway through his sophomore year.
And even then, I mean he was splitting time with
different backs. You know, his his his junior year, he
became the top guy, but he still hadn't reached that
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you know, big time elusive, big time player. So again
he was splitting time with you know, guys from a
guy from San Antonio that that people maybe remember in
Priest Holmes, you know, played for Kansas City, played for
Baltimore in the NFL. Great great running back on all
three levels at high school, in college, and in the NFL. Man. So,
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so yeah, for what for Ricky to break door sets
all time record? You're right, twenty six years between or
twenty two years rather between the the time that he
broke it. It's one of those things, man, that it was.
It was a great thing to watch. And you know,
he's one of the guys that I thought about that
I thought, you know, if you if you dropped him
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intoday's game, could he play at this level? Could he dominate?
Because you know you don't, like you said, man, it's
become more pass heavy, it's very quarterback eccentric. It's very
offensive minded, right, but think about it, dude, he could
catch the ball out of the backfield. He could he
could wear you down, you know, banging the line and
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hit hit the holes hard and everything. So it was
one of those things, man, that he was one of
those that I considered for my list. I think. Let
me see if I sent you my list. I was
doing it as you were talking, So I'll send you
my list so you can kind of look at it.
But one guy, one guy that played for Texas that
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that I really think could have fit perfectly in this
era today was Eric medcalf Man. And I don't know
if you remember hearing that name or seeing him play.
He was an all purpose back. He caught the ball
out of the backfield, so they lined him up at
the slot they you know, he toted the rock. He
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was a running back, he was a punt returner, he
was a kick returner. I mean, he was all over
the field. He played probably eighty to ninety snaps. You know.
We talked about guys like Travis Hunter that played at
Colorado the last couple of seasons and all the snaps
that he got. If you stuck Eric medcalf into today's game,
he would blow Travis Hunter's numbers away because he would
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be on the field so much more than he would
but again, man, it's one of those things where you
look and you think some guys like Eric Medcalf that
were all purpose. You had a guy like Marshall Falk
at San Diego State. You know, we didn't see a
lot of Marshall Falk early on in his career because
he played in San Diego. Those were late night games,
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so you didn't see it till the next morning on
Sports Center. You'd see the highlights and be like, man,
who was that guy? And he's another one dude, all purpose,
all everything type of back that could really do some damage.
And then of course, how do you talk running backs
of the eighties and nineties and not talk about Ladani
and Tomlinson. Dude, that guy was special coming out of TCU. Dude,
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another guy that could have been on the forefront of
any era, whether it was the eras back in the
day where he was just pounding the rock, running the ball,
or if you put him out wide or slipped him
out in the backfield and had him catching the ball,
that guy could electrify a crowd in an instant. The
one guy, the one guy, and the Broski gave me
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this name and I thought about it. I looked it
up and I was like, you know what, He's right.
The one guy that really could have fit in today's
game is slash Cordell Stewart. He was big time at Colorado.
I don't know that the NFL was really rare. He
was before his time because when he was playing in
the NFL, like they wanted to, they wanted to make
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him a pocket passer, and that just wasn't his game.
He was a mobile quarterback. He could move around, he
had a strong arm, he could get the ball down
the field, and he was elusive enough to get away
from those defenses. Man, that guy at Colorado was special.
Your thoughts on those guys that I just gave you,
and your thoughts on what those guys could do, I.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Mean, Marshall, fuck, man, you're right. It's kind of weird
because you and I were. I mean, we have so
much data and info at our fingertips now, right, we
have our cell phones now and we can, Man, you
can get an update on acts or anything, dude, and
you can know what's happening all around the globe, right.
I mean, you're right, Like it's funny because you can't
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you don't see like a Marshall Fulk where those those
players from the from the West coast, because you know,
we man, if you start watching football on a Saturday,
you know here in Texas, I mean you're up early
at probably eleven twelve for East Coast games, and then
you get to your time zone and your squads and
your team that you follow, and then by the by
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the end of the day, you know, you know, it's
the sun's still not even setting on their side of
the globe.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And you're right, man, you just didn't get to see
those kind of players.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think he would be. I mean, I think that
the NFL. You're right, him and Ladanian Thomason. I mean,
I mean Ladanian Thomason did have his his shine. You know,
he did do well when he did play. It's just
now the games are so different, man, the players, schemes,
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I mean, all those things that they're just not I mean,
it's hard to imagine those kind of players from you know,
the we follow back in the day in today's game.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
But I think you're.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
With LT I mean I see him and even Cordell
Stewart because I mean him and kind of like Mike Vic.
But Mike Vick wasn't in the kind of eighties and nineties.
I mean, he's more of a I think he would
have been him and Cordell' stew would be kind of
the same. You know, they would probably fit more into
what is going on now, like a you know, like
a Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes or somebody you know
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doing stuff with their feet, moving around, moving the pocket,
you know, doing those kind of things. And I think, yeah,
Cordel Stewart, because back then, you know, you're you're like.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Hey, you got to make you got to stay in
the pocket. You got to stay in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And I think that kind of did them a disservice
right in their head because you're in it's already in
the back of your mind not to not to take
off and run. But now it's kind of almost praised, right.
But yeah, man, I think Cordo Stewart would have would
have fit really well into this this day and a's league.
What about the guys that I mentioned here, who do
you think who do you think would kind of I
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guess flourish.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
At this end today's game.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, you know, honestly, dude, I mean I look
at your list. You got Marcus Allen herschel Walker, Bo Jackson,
Roocky Williams, Barry Sanders. I mean, all five of those guys, man,
they were just spectacular in their time right. But to me,
the one guy that I feel like we were really
robbed of, the one guy that we really never got
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to see what he could have been, especially in the
NFL level, was Bo Jackson. That guy had. He had
the strength, he had, the speed, he had, the elusiveness,
he had, the ability to catch the ball. I mean,
he was probably as close to a total package as
there was on a field when he was out there,
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and depending on who he was playing, depending on who
he was up against, you know, you'd be hard pressed
to convince me that there was a better player on
the other team or even on his team when he
was out there. I think Bo Jackson would be amazing
in this era. I think would be wild to see
him playing at the college level and then what he
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would do on Sundays in the NFL if he was
able to play in today's game. He's just he's he's
he was unbelievable, man. I mean, and of course we
saw we saw a lot of his talents and stuff
on the baseball field, but I think I think he
was a better football player than he was a baseball player,
but we just didn't get to see it because of
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his injury and because you know, time, time was not
on his side in that way to be able to
be out there on Sundays like like we were wanting
him to. But amazing, amazing athlete, dude. And I forget
about him from time to time, you know what I mean.
I mean, he's, like you say, there's so much stuff
at our fingertips now, so many things that we can
look up YouTube, all the different social media platforms, and
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so when I see something from him, I'm like, holy shit,
you know, because it's like I I it feels like
at times like I've never seen it before, even though
I've probably seen that clip one hundred times, you know
what I mean, What you got right?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
What you got right?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
One more thing about Ricky Williams, and I you know,
I don't want to make it all about him, but
just him as a person, right man. He was like
a really quiet, you know what I mean, kind of
you know what I mean, laid back. I don't want
to say docile, because he just man, he never spoke
like he didn't talk shit, you know he didn't you
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know what I mean, just his demeanor off the field,
right off the field. But dude, you put him on
the field and you put the ball in his freaking hands,
and dude, he was just like a wrecking ball.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He was just like a wrecking ball that I mean.
He could go around you too. He was similar to
both Jackson in that regard. And what I what I
always what I remember just I can see him in
my head running the running with the football was his ankles.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Man always seemed really small to me.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't know why I didn't tape him right or
some shit. I was always thinking, man, how does this
guy with these you know, like his he seems smaller
than they should be or I don't know what it was,
or something about his body the.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Way it was made.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I was like, man, this guy's wind up getting hurt
or something's gonna happen with his ankles or his his wrists,
like and whatever and it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But he never did like it. Never, it never bothered him.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
He just and then when he had to bulldog somebody
and he had to you know, uh, kick off with speed.
I mean that's the say you're right, he was like
a fullback, right, he was like a fullback playing running back,
and you don't you don't you know those those things
don't always correlate. And and then what I what I like?
I said, I like to rememberbout him. It was just
a calm, cool guy, you know. And you know, I'm
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not a Texas fan, but I like that about him
because he wasn't a ship talker and he was just.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like, Hey, I'm just gonna come out here on.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
This field and beat your ass and you know, okay next,
you know, And I like that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's what I liked about him. On the personal side.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I just I personally feel a little attacked because you
said he wasn't a ship talker and he liked that,
And I'm like, is he trying to say something? Is
he trying to make a point here, because I mean,
should I feel Should I feel some sort of way
because he says that I may talk a little bit
too much from time to time, maybe I do whatever?
Man whatever. No, No, I'm not gonna make this all
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about me, even though I could, but I'm not. I'm not.
I promise, I promise I'm gonna try to do less
of that on this program. This year. So yeah, man,
I mean just again, dude, we could sit here and
we could talk even more guys. There's probably more guys
that we could pull out of the air and talk about.
But I think these guys, I think these these eight
or nine guys that we talked about just now, man,
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I think those were probably the best of the best
during their era. And you could easily see any one
of those guys dropped into today's game, and they could
they could excite a cry. Again, dude, power speed. The
things that you just described with Wiki would I describe
with Bo Jackson. You could say the same thing about
herschel Walker. I mean, the blink of an eye could
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go from zero to fifty and be in the end
zone celebrating with the dogs down down there in Georgia. Uh.
Just tremendous, tremendous. And then of course the lightning fast
guys Marshall Falk Ladanian, Tomlinson, Barry Sanders, Eric Metcalf. I mean,
you give those guys an inch and they're gonna take
a mile because they're gonna run away from you and
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there ain't nothing you can do once they hit that
top end speed. So yeah, man, I mean just tremendous,
tremendous players, loved watching them play, love seeing their highlights,
and would have loved, would love loved to have seen
them play today. Hey, you know, the the great thing
about college football, man, and actually the great thing about
football itself is rivalries, dude. And you know we we
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we still have a lot of pride in the high
school that we went to. The fact that they don't
have a football program anymore, you know, sucks and stuff.
We miss out on that early November game to to
wrap up the season. You know. So of course, the
the always proud the fight fight red and white of
Fox Tech and you know that disgusting looking blue from Lanier. Uh.
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You know, the Chili Bowl is always one of the
biggest rivalries out there. So you know, every time I
would think every time growing up, I would think about it.
And of course when I was in school, Uh, you know,
you see you see one of their kids or one
of their students, you knew them. We probably interacted with
a bunch of people from from Lanier back in the
day because we went to the same churches, we went
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to the same you know, parks to play ball and
stuff like that. So you know, you could say stuff
like you know Smeer Lanier, you know LATCLA, and you
know it would it would get a rise out of
them and they would talk their ship. We would talk
our ship. What is something in the college game that
you could say to an opposing fan base that would
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get them all riled up? What do you what do
you have on that? What are your feelings?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean I get so much shit whenever I say
to you. And that's just all I have to say, man,
I mean, it just.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Goes there from the tradition of the A and M
and and that's just remember there was a different conference
back then, right when they played against each other, and
I mean the tradition goes way way way back, and
just saying to you, I think, and I'm like, man,
it's just two letters, yep. And I think that's probably
the biggest I think, what do you want to call
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the triggers that I could say? Probably yeah, decision about that?
All kinds of things you know that they're not very bright.
I mean there's joke books about them.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's like, okay, we I haven't heard that one before, right,
I Mean that's probably the top of the list.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Bro Well and I and I think you're right. I
think you know so in a lot of ways, I
think when when Aggie's or non Longhorned fans say tu,
I think it upsets more of the graduates, the folks
that went to Texas to hear that, right, And of
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course all you got to do is listen to the
A and M fight song and what does it say?
Goodbye to Texas University, So they're there there, there's where
you get your TU from. So you know, it's one
of those things that, like, I think for casual fans,
if you want to call me a casual fan, even
though I'm a diehard Longhorn fan, like that one doesn't
trigger me, you know, as bad as some of them.
Maybe some of the other stuff that that is said,
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but it does make me laugh because you know, it's
it's like the horns down thing, or you know, it's
it's all the ship that people love to talk because
Textas is Texas is like whatever, man, I don't really
care because I'm going to give it back, you know,
I'm going to give it back just as easily as
I get it right. One of the one of the things,
one of the things that I like, No I yeah, no,
I understand, I understand. But you know what's funny is,
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you know, as we're sitting here doing this episode, I'm
sitting here with my Michigan shirt on my Michigan cap,
and you know, I have I have a few friends
and family members that are Suckeye fans, and I didn't
ever realize how much that one little letter that I
changed at the beginning of their name from a B
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to an S, which that's what they're full of, a
bunch of bullshit. You change that letter to an S
and you get the suck eyes, and that is one
thing that you can say that's gonna trigger those people,
and it's gonna piss them off.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So that makes me feel really good to know that
there's just that little hint of a trigger to get somebody.
You know, you know better than anybody. All it takes
is for me to hear that one thing or get
that one reaction out of somebody, and then I'm gonna
take off from there and it's gonna be awful. It's
gonna be horrible. Your day's gonna be ruined, your week's
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gonna be fucked up, your month isn't gonna be as
good as it was, and you're probably gonna go home
and kick your dog and slap your wife because Ronald
pissed you off. And if I do that, then my
day is made. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling
you right now. So but no, man, you're right. I
just I think just little things, little things can trigger
a fan base. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Uh see bloop.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, say go blue and see what happens. You know
what I mean. It sucked. It sucked because a really
good friend of mine that I used to work with
back in June, she got married. Her and her husband
good friends of mine. She's from Ohio, and she knows
that I'm a huge Michigan fan. She grew up a
huge Suckeye fan. I give her shit all the time.
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And I was going to perform her wedding, and unfortunately
it didn't work out. I didn't get to I didn't
get to do it. And I told her, I said,
there's only one one reason, one real reason, other than
to see you guys on your on your day, There's
only one real reason why I want to do this ceremony.
And she goes, oh, yeah, what's that? I said, because
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I know your family's coming in from Ohio and I
got to got to got to make sure that I
give a go Blue at the end of the ceremony.
And she laughs, she goes, Ronald, I would love that,
she goes, She goes, she goes. Don't get me wrong,
I support Ohio eight, she says. But I'm not a
die hard like my family. She goes, My family are
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a bunch of diehards. So I missed my opportunity not
gonna lie. I was a little disappointed. But it's okay,
It's it just means there's another opportunity coming at some point.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
But uh, but yeah, I think I think you could
say stuff like that. I think, you know, if you
really want to piss off some some college football fans,
throw out a roll tide. Throw out a roll tide
and see what kind of freaking, what kind of freaking
reaction you get from that. Uh, I see your face,
I see her face, So I know that's one of
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those that kind of that kind of sticks to you. Yeah,
throw out the chomp chomp and see see what that does.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You know, that piss me off the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But you know, you know what's funny, you know, so
you know what you know what really for me? You
know what my trigger is. Some of these fight songs.
Some of these fight songs are my trigger. So you
hear the stupid Oklahoma one over and over again, You
hear the the sucky one over and over again every time,
like there's a play that they play it. But I
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know the one that kills you. I know the one
that if you hear it right now, if I played
it right now, I'm sure I could get a reaction
out of you. And as a matter of fact, let
me look it up real quick as you sit here
and ponder what song I'm talking about, and I'm saying,
as soon as I play it, you're gonna be like
son of a gun. But I think this, this one
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could be the one that, you know, you kind of
sit there and shake your head, and you're probably gonna
want to come through the screen and slap the shit
out of me here in just a second. Sorry, guys,
fat thumbs. It's taken a little longer to get this
thing up and running. But I think this one right
here could be the one could be the one. I
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don't know, if you can hear that, hold on you
hear it? Did you hear that? No, no, okay, I
don't have to find it and I'll have to play
it again in a minute. But the one that I
know would probably get on your nerves the most is
good old Rocky Top.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I can hey, dude, I can live without. I can
live with it or without it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Man. What I can't stand is that damn Notre Dame
fight song.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's another one.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yes, that makes.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Me just puke, like I just want to puke, man,
And I can I can tolerate the Texas one. I
could tolerate, you know, certain things, and I could tolerate
Rocky Top or Bro. When I hear that fucking song,
it just no, I can't bro. I can't the gold
Helmets and just no, man, I can't bro.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, no, I agree, dude. That's another one of those
songs that you know gets on my nerves, you know.
I tell I say this every time we talk about
that damn team. I grew up a Catholic. I know
what that I know what that university means to Catholics worldwide.
I know what it means to the Golden domer fans.
But I cannot stand that team. I hate that team.
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There's nothing about them that I like I don't like
the damn helmet, I don't like the touchdown jijus thing.
I don't like any of it. And I have a
guy that I work with that's all a five foot tall.
He looks like a fucking leprechaun, and you know, he
loves to brag about Notre Dame. And I'm like, dude,
what is Notre Dame really done in the last ten years.
Let's be honest. They've had one, They've had one good season.
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They played for a national championship. Can't take that away
from them. But at the end of the day, you're
a little Leprekahn. He ain't all that lucky. So you know,
I told him to go ahead. I told him to
go ahead and jump back on that lucky charms box
and stay right there and don't say a damn word
until he's spoken to, and you know we'll go from there.
But yeah, man, that's all.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He's funny.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, it's funny. Like you talked earlier. You know,
we're talking about eighties and nineties. I mean, I at
least respected them back then, right, you know, right, you
know they had players, they had swag. You know, they
had Lou Holtz and they had something and that, and
that's why you kind of, I guess, hated them because
because they were good, man.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
They had they had good teams, and they had.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
A great coach, they had great players, and you know,
but you and I, you know, were Michigan guys right
back then, and I think that's what started our fondness
for Michigan. And yeah, man, just I mean, at least
back then, they had some they were holding some kind
of cards, they had some aces on their hand, you know,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well you just said, you just said. The one thing
that really turned me off to Notre Dame, and that
was Lou Holtz. I could not stand Lou Holtz. I
like them better. I liked them better when he was
in the booth at ESPN and he did that post
game show, you know, they had that wrap up show
at the end of the night on Saturdays. I thought
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he was funny. I thought, don't get me wrong, he
seems like a very nice man. He seems like a
good person. But I just hated him as a coach.
And part of that hatred started when he coached at
Arkansas and Arkansas and Texas, obviously Southwest Conference rivals for
a long time, and I hated him. Then I hated
him at Notre Dame. So the only time I think
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I could stand him was at South Carolina because there
was no connection of any way between him and any
of the teams that I rooted for. So but yeah,
that was one of the reason, that was one of
the reasons why I couldn't stand Notre Dame. So of course, dude, again,
like we talked about the triggers, the different things that
you could say or do to piss off fans. But
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part of the reason that we love football so much,
and especially college football, man, is the pageantry, are the traditions,
are the different things that come with your team, the
programs you love, the teams you support, like, all of
it comes together. So one of those things is the uniforms.
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So when you look, when you look at the uniforms
of these different teams, man, across our lifetime, who do
you think has the best looking uniforms either their road
and home or just their road or just their home.
Who do you think has some of the best uniforms
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in college football?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Wow, I think for me, the top of the list
just has to be Michigan Man.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
The Michigan overine when it's not very overstated.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
The helmet is just you recognize it right away, and
they don't go out of their way to put a
lot of glitter and glam on their jerseys. They it's
just two simple colors. Like we said earlier, you just
say go blue. And I'm a kind of I mean
a kind of compared to you, I'm a very kind
of more conservative, you know, just you know that's good
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enough for me.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I don't need to all that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
But is it a hey, hey, is it attack Ronald
Day on this damn program? Like here you go again,
damn swear?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I mean, because it's it's more of a simple look,
it's a more conservative look.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But I mean, come on, man, you used to wear
plaid shorts with I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
What do you mean, hey, what do you what do
you mean used to? What do you mean you used to?
There might there might still be a pair too, there
might still be yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
But you pulled it off, bro, because you can wear.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What you want. Very few people could believe me.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yes, yes, of late, of late.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I kind of like the Oregon's duck ducks kind of
new kind of always trying to make these super fancy
kind of razzle dazzle type looking uniforms. They're kind of
growing on and it's it's better than the fucking fighting
highlighters that they used to have.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And I kind of like that now, you know. And
on the on the other spectrum of that, the jerseys
that I just cannot stand. The jerseys. I just I'm like,
I think.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's the sun Devil one and that weird helmet, and
I mean the colors are makes sense, but the weird
like icons or logos they put on the helmets of
some college teams, I just can I can, like, NC State, bro,
what is that?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
What is that cartoon of some some kid drew?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And they I can't rather just you got to update
some of that stuff, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, Man,
for me, I think Michigan and Oregon right now are
kind of kind of at my time. I mean, it
could change, you know, it could change. We can change
next year. You ask me this question, and I'm like, Okay,
you know these guys made modifications and changes.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
You know, I was there on A and M in Texas.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man, they don't really put a lot of effort into
making the change.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I think with Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They did a little bit right, but I kind of
like that, Okay, this is a little bit different. I'm
tired of the stay home maroon and you know, and
same thing with Texas man. I think I think Texas
is due for an upgrade. But because it's just man,
they're just too two plane. It's like, okay, it's a
little bit too plain, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, so I'm gonna touch on Texas and A and
M here just a little bit. But let me let
me give you my best and worst or best in whatever.
In a lot of ways, I agree with you with
Michigan man, like you said, very understated basic color scheme.
I think their combination of the home the blue jersey
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with the yellow pants, like that's what I remember seeing
on New Year's Day, right, like they they play in
the Rose Bowl, you would see that combination. They had
a lot of those games on ABC back in the day.
It seemed like they were playing a lot of home games,
so that's what we saw all the time. And then
of course you know they go on the road and
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they'd have some variation of blue pants and white jersey
or white jersey and yellow pants. And then a few
years ago when Harball was there, and I guess, I
guess maybe when he played at Michigan. Therefore a short
time they had all white. There were white jersey, white pants,
and of course the same helmet. So I mean they
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You're right. I think some of their combinations were very understated.
I think it was just it's very clean. There's no
there's no fat, you know, big fireworks to it. It's
very clean. It's very traditional. I've noticed as I've gotten
a little bit older that I want my teams to
have traditional looks, you know what I mean. So I
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think that's why, like the Michigan stuff to me is nice.
Here's one that I'm pretty sure you probably didn't expect
to hear me say, but I'm gonna give credit to
the two Los Angeles schools. I think the U c
l A powder blue with the gold is a classic look.
And I think the the USC with the with the
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garnet and the and the yellow with the trojan on
the side, I think that's a classic look, you know.
So I like I like some of those traditional type
of of uniforms and looks as far as the grab
your attention look, I think you're right. I think Oregon
has probably been the best one to have different variations
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of their uniforms. I will say the one thing that
I don't like about their uniforms are the duck the
duck wings or whatever it is that they have on
the on the shoulder pads. I'm not a fan of that.
They do it on the helmets sometimes that doesn't look bad,
but whatever, whenever they try to do the duck feather
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look on the on the shoulder pads. Not a big
fan of that. If they had like four or five
different uniform that they go through every few years, that's cool.
There's sometimes I think they've gone too far where they
seem to have a different look every week, and I'm like, Okay,
you need to stop doing that already. It's too much,
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you know what I mean. But I like that, you
know what I mean. I think one of the other
great traditions in college football are the helmet stickers. I
think there's still a handful of school that does do
the helmet stickers. I think that's kind of cool. I
know different different schools, different teams have different reasons for
the helmet stickers. Obviously, good plays, big victories is something
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that they get credit for, academics, all kinds of things
that they could get credit for. So I think that's
also part of the tradition of the uniform and things
like that. As far as Texas and A and M go,
if it just stays burnt orange and white and maroon
and white, I'm perfectly okay with that. I've told Cody
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on different occasions I hated the Johnny Manziel era of
the different A and M uniforms because to me, there's
certain there's certain programs, and I understand that like A
and M hasn't won a championship, they're not considered a
blue blood, right, but there's still one of those teams
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that they've had a level of success for years, not
just a little bit of a pocket here and there. No,
they were good in the eighties, they were good in
the nineties, they were good in the two thousands, they
were decent in the twenty tens. They've been a little
up and down in the twenty twenties, but they've still
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been there, right, So they have a level of they
have a level of success that to me, you don't
have to change it up. They had that white uniform
with the silver texas on it, and it was a
terrible look. It was awful. I hated that uniform and
I'm not even an AGGI fan, and I hated that
union form. I thought, for if they were gonna do
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something different when they did that blackout whereas black with
the maroon numbers and lettering with with menzel there, I
thought that was a cool look. I thought that was
something different. Yeah, so like, if you're gonna do something
like that, I'm okay with that. But I think they
got swept up in some of that marketing and some
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of that. Okay, now we're in the SEC. We got
to make a splash. We want to draw attention, and
I think it just it went too far. I wasn't
a fan of it. They've stuck more to the traditional
maroon and white look the last few seasons. I think
that's okay. One look, I will be honest with you.
One look that I do like, even though they probably
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haven't had much success in it is the all white,
the the white helmet with the maroon ATM on it,
and then of course the white uniform with with the
maroon letters. I thought that I thought that was a
good look. I think that's a good look for them.
Or not they like it, who's to say. But yeah,
I think that's one of those that you know, if
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you leave A and M alone and just left the
maroon and white, I would be okay with that. As
far as Texas Texas Twitter, there's half of the people
that want an alternate uniform. There's the other half of
the people who want the traditional uniform. I want them
to stay with the traditional uniform. I don't want them
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to mess with that. I don't want to see I
don't want to see the Longhorns in an all orange uniform.
I don't want to see the Longhorns in a black
and orange uniform. I don't want to see none of that.
I want to see orange and white at home, and
I want to see the all whites on the road.
That's what I want to see. I don't want to
see a different longhorn on the helmet. I want none
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of that. I want just the normal Longhorn uniform. And
I'm okay with that. And I know that there's some
there's a good majority of people out there who are
rooting and pushing for an alternate uniform. I am not
one of those people. I would rather them stay the
way that they are and and that'll be that man. So, dude,
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I cannot be more excited. You know, we took a
few weeks off from this program just to kind of reset,
chill out, let life be life, and enjoy our time
away from the program, and I think I think now's
the right time to start putting this thing back together.
I'm looking forward to the football season, dude. It's amazing
(43:30):
that it's here already. Obviously, I'm excited because Texas is
ranked number one in the in the polls. Preseason polls
don't mean shit, it doesn't mean anything, but it is
exciting as a fan to be the guy that everybody's
aiming for. It's gonna be huge that first week in Columbus,
so it'll be very interesting to see how that's gonna
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play out. But I can't wait. What are your feelings
on the upcoming season? Man?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Man, I mean, just just that's the idea that Texas
team is ranked number one, no matter who it is,
you want something like that. You know, we're from Texas,
And I wish, I mean, I wish people could understand
the level of just how much football means to the
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people of this state, and I'm sure other states will.
We'll argue and say, hey, well we got this many
championships and blah blah blah blah blah. Right, but you
didn't grow up in Texas, man, You and I grew
up here. We've seen great teams, We've seen great players.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
We're a huge state.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
And I can't wait for this, just this whole season
to see how these Texas teams do. You know, there's
always a TCU of sprinkle in there. There's always a
certain team that you don't see coming.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Like a Red Raiders.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
And I know that triggers might trigger you, but there's
a certain teams in Texas that, hey, they sometimes they
get some shine and they get some shit rolling and
they make it interesting. Right, SMU starting to come back, right,
And I kind of just miss saying Southwest Conference, Man,
I hate not being able to say that anymore. I mean,
but I think the SEC is king. You know, you
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want to be part of the beat the man, to
beat the man. You know, you say it all the time.
You want to be in that conference where you're mentioned
among the elites. You know, not to say that all
the teams in the SEC are all great, but for
the majority of I think of the from twenty two
thousand to now two thousand and one, two thousand now,
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I mean, think about me, it's twenty twenty five now.
It's it's a different it's a whole different field, it's
a whole different vibe. I'm anxious to see what A
and M can do. Obviously they're in the top twenty five.
I didn't expect that. But what I do like, and
I do want to look forward to, is this, you know,
this new this quarterback, Marcel. See what he can do
and put together. I'm sure you're the same way, you
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know with Manning. And I mean, I cannot wait till
fucking Thanksgiving, dude. You know, like I'm excited now. Just
think about that game. It's back on the day that
we needed, right because the fact that we were.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Denied not just that game.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
You know, we were so excited about it last year
for so long that this year it's kind.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Of going to feel more like home, right.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I actually woke up this morning and I was telling Lisa,
man I want that turkey from Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't know why I woke up I had that feeling.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I guess because you can feel, you know, fall just
right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yep, and fall means what means football.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It means college football, it means NFL football, and it's
great food. It means family, it means rivalries. It means
they bust that team in the mouth. You know, I
cannot wait, man, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
First of all, you'll never be able to say Texas
Tech and trigger to me because there's nothing about Texas
Tech that will ever trigger me. They ain't shit. Okay,
they ain't even the red headed step child. They are
the redheaded step child that's sitting at the kids table
even though they're thirty nine year old adults that should
be sitting at the adult table. But they ain't never
done nothing in life. They still live in their mother's
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basement and they're trying to get they're trying to get
some people's attention because they want some money on a
scratch off. Okay, I understand they got a lot of
money out there because that billionaire oil guy that they
have funding all of their nil. That's great, that's wonderful.
Spend all the freaking money that you can. But at
the end of the day, unless you win something, unless
you become something and do something when it matters, which
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is between the lines under the lights on Saturdays. You
don't mean shit, Okay. So if you're a Red Raider
fan and you're listening to this, you mean nothing to me.
You are nothing to me. I don't care two shits
about what your opinion is or what you have to say,
because all you are is a bunch of tortilla flippers
who live out in the middle of nowhere that if
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it wasn't for that university being in Lubbuck, nobody would
even know that freaking love Buck was there. Okay, So
let's just put Texas Tech where they belong, put them
back over there in the corner, telling to shut their
damn mouth all right now. As far as the rest
of it, I'm like you, man, it's in the air.
I know it's still one hundred degrees. I know it's
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still hot right now. We're still in the middle of August.
It's not quite gotten cool enough yet to really make
it feel like football season. But it's always like that
in Texas. It never gets cool enough for us to
make it feel like football season. And you're right, dude.
Other states will brag they have this, they have that
this school, this this school, that there's nothing and people
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have said it for decades when they travel to Texas
from other parts of the country or they move to
Texas and from other parts of the country, there's a
vibe during football season that no other state has. Okay,
that's why they made the movie Friday Night Lights in Odessa,
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because it's about Texas football and it's fun and it's
exciting and we can't wait. It's gonna be I mean,
it's going to be unbelievable. And I'm telling you right now, dude.
If people think, if people think that Texas fans are annoying, now,
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if people think that the hype train that is rolling
out of the Austin station is something, now, let them
go up to Ohio State and win that game Week
one and start to see how that damn hype train
is going to roll down those tracks, because all that's
gonna do is build momentum. And all I'm gonna say is,
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twenty years ago, there was a team out of Austin,
Texas that played a game in Columbus, Ohio. They were
the first and I'm almost positive in saying only team
to go to Columbus Ohio and play a game in
that stadium after eight pm Eastern, under the lights, and
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walk out of that stadium with a win. That was
twenty years ago, and what happened at the end of
that season was Texas was raising that crystal ball. I'm
not saying it's gonna happen again. I'm not saying this
is the same type of thing. But if they go
up there and they win that game, could deja vu
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happen again? You never know, man, this has been fun, dude.
There's more topics for us to talk about. There's more
stuff that we're gonna get together and do over the
next few weeks, and of course, probably some time between
now and the start of football season, we'll have our
preview show. You'll break down your aggies, I'll break down
my Longhorns, and we'll talk more stuff. All in between,
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we'll give our prediction on the season and see how
this thing plays out. But this has been fun, dude.
I can't wait for the next time. Got anything else
before we wrap it up?
Speaker 3 (50:55):
That was sir man. I'm just ready for football. Man.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
And just as a reminder to you, the Horns always
stay up. Just a reminder in case you may have forgotten. Okay, anyway,
I will talk to you soon, my friend. Have a
great night. Fan Pole Sports a true text sports podcast
for a true text sports fan. Once again, this has
been Ronnie, that's Mark, and we're out. Peace.