Cowboys talk with Mark

Mark and I talk Cowboys. From expectations, to hopes and dedication to the Star. At the end of the day, we love the Cowboys, but not putz that runs it.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And we're back.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Fan Poll Sports, a true tech sports podcast for the
true tex sports fan. Once again, I'm your host, Ronnie Langford,
back at it for this Dallas Cowboys edition with the
main Man, the the legend of Salina Street Football, the

(00:57):
Golden Arm, the rifle Arm, the man who could throw
an interaccurate pass to the most accurate people in the world,
the true legend himself, the fifty five grand the double Nickel,
Mark Ramirez.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Mark, Welcome back to the program, Buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hello, Blow two and O and Dallas area.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
We're ready, We are ready, man oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Lots happening in the Cowboy universe, Cowboy Nation, you know, obviously,
the seasons just a few days away, as they start
out on Thursday Night football against the hated Philadelphia Eagles,
and of course the powers that be that run the NFL,

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that run the networks, and of course I'm sure Jerry
Jones himself had a big say about them being the
opponent for the Philadelphia Eagles because they wanted all eyes
on this game, and no more sets of eyes are
gonna to be glued to a TV than Cowboy haters,
and that's the only way Philadelphia could draw a crowd

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is by having the Cowboys on the opposite side of
the field. So with that being said, let's start off
by talking a little bit. Let's start off talking a
little bit about the Cowboys themselves and where they stand.
Your thoughts, first of all on them opening up on

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Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, I can't be more excited, because grow better than
to start a season with with somebody liked the Eagles,
they hated Eagles, and it's vice versa. It goes both ways,
it goes back and forth. There's no love lost between
the city, but they love and you know, obviously anything
to do with Dallas or anything to do with the
Cowboys now, whether Jerry made it happen, whether it didn't happen,

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whether it was with it without him, it doesn't matter.
The hatred, the vitreal, whatever you want to call it.
It's more than just a game. Not only that, it's
a fight to get a good start and a good
footing in the NFC East, which is you know, and
I know, and I'm sure everyone listening knows that it

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never runs smoothly.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Man.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
There's never back to back champions of the NFC East
other than the year before or the year last year,
and then the year before that, it was actually the
cop was actually won it two times in a row,
and we had a lot of hope and hype, and
obviously we all know where that wund up. But man,
I'm excited. I can't wait to get started. I can't
wait to see what Blue does. I can't wait to

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see what our defense can do with the change. And
we'll talk about that in a minute. And I want
to see where Duk is. I want to see where
his preparedness is, where his connection's going to be with
his receivers, where his connection is going to be with
the tight ends. I'm anxious to see if this running group,
running back room is ready.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And up to the task. And I just can't wait.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Brother, Man, it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know, there's a lot, a lot to talk about. Obviously,
a lot has happened this offseason, good, bad, and different,
however you want to look at it. You know, obviously
the frustration for Cowboys fan isn't the hype, isn't the
amount of time that they'll be able to be on TV,
but more the fact that you know we're going into

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year thirty. I do believe since we last made an
NFC championship. So it's about winning, it's about getting there,
it's about taking that next step. We've been talking about
this for three years now on this podcast about them
taking that next step, that next step. You know that
the one inch, the one percent, all the other all

(04:48):
the other cliches and stuff that we've talked about over
the last couple of years. Man, they still hold true
today and it doesn't seem like much has changed. You know,
we we had a big coaching change, McCarthy's out, Schottenheimer's in,
and then you know, they they made some business decisions
to not bring back various people, primarily Cooper Rush at

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the at the backup quarterback position. They let him walk
into free agency. He ended up in Baltimore. They traded
for Joe Milton as a backup quarterback. Huge arm, tremendous athlete,
can throw a country mile, but couldn't hit the broadside
of a barn if he was two feet away. He

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can't hit anything of importance when it comes to the
NFL style throws. This guy would be the perfect Al
Davis quarterback because he can throw it down the field,
but the accuracy is gonna be the big question with him.
Big arm, doesn't always mean accurate, and that's and that's

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one of the things that you have to be in
the NFL because, like Jerry Glanville said many many years
ago when he was with the Oilers, you keep playing
like that, you ain't gonna be in the NFL, because
you know what the NFL stands for, not for long.
So if Joe Milton doesn't get his stuff together and
become a better quarterback, he won't be in Dallas backing
up Dak for very long. But I mean, there's so

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many things, so many things that we have to touch on.
I'm gonna let you tell me where do you want
to start? What do you want to talk about first?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I mean, I guess we're going have to talk about
Dak because the defense is kind of obviously with the
move that just made with Micah and I hate saying
that name now, but let's start with Dak and where
he is and what his connection is with his receivers.
And I'm at I'm at a spot and a point
and we kind of almost say this.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Every year with Dak. Is this his year? Right?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I think he has the tools, he's got the arm,
he's got the.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I guess just the greatness.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I don't want to call him great ist, but he's
got the greatness to be great in the right system
and with the right tools around him and the right
players around him. Now, they made the move to bring
in Pickens from Pittsburgh, and obviously that's not our favoritest team.
But I kind of post somebody post a question. I
don't know where I heard it from or where I

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saw it or where it was posted. Somebody had mentioned
could could could Pickens coming in and now being that
number two or number one, A one B guy to Lamb,
the question was, do you think that these two guys
have the ability and with a quarterback like Dak, to
be the best duo in the league. And I kind

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of really had to think, really really hard about it,
and I think they have the potential to do that.
If Dak is healthy, if Dak is in the pocket,
and Dak can can find just find those guys out
there in the field, and if the right play calls
at the right time, they can be successful. I think
they can do it. I think it's a possibility. I'm

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not saying it's gonna happen now, am I hopeful that
it will happen? I mean, I don't think it's too
far out of the remot possibility to have those two
guys make an impact or be the splash players that
the Cowboys need to kind of, I guess, just make
up for some deficiencies, because when you've got some two
guys out there that can make some home run balls.
And here's what I like about Pickens. I gotta really

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mention him. He's a go get the fucking ball kind
of guy. He doesn't care. He throws his body out there,
he twists his body, contorts his body. It might not
be the best throw, but he will make that effort
to make that catch, kind of like you know, just
the old quarter you know, ride receivers of old you know.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I like that about him. Now, Black put Ceede Lamb
in that same conversation. Almost there, He's almost there. But
Ceedee Lamb is your go to guy as of last year.
But now that you have one on one guy on
one side and one guy on the other, who do
you who do you target? Like, who do you want
to slow down? Who do you want to put in
that spot of on the defensive side? Whoever's playing the Cowboys? Okay,

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who do we who do we focus in on?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And I like that.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I like the fact that it spreads the field, it
gives you more space.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
That helps the running game.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
You know, I don't, I'm I'm I'm still you know,
we're still hesitant on the running game because we haven't
seen it, you know, for so many years now, and
I can't even remember the last time they had a
good solid running game to begin unless what Zeke maybe
came in and they first came into the league, and
that's probably as far back as I could think.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now, with these two guys.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Out there, I guess my question to you is do
you think that they have the capability and I guess
the Maxie you use that word a lot to be
those those two guys that can lead the league and
receiving yards, not on yards, but touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, let me let me start with Dak. You know
it's gonna be big him coming off this injury. Obviously,
he didn't play in the preseason. You know, he did
a lot of stuff during camp, but he never touched
the field during those three games. So it's one of
those things that you really don't know what you're getting

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until he steps on that field on Thursday. Night and
takes that first snap, and of course, like they always say,
you don't feel good about coming back from an injury
till the first time you get hit, and then you know,
you see how you respond, see how you feel. You know,
he sent me this thing a little while ago with
his stats from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four, and
you know, you can look at the different numbers. He's

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had multiple years of double digit interceptions. You know, it
got pretty bad there in twenty two when he threw
for fifteen interceptions, and then it got a little bit better.
In twenty three he only had nine. He was a
four to one ratio. And then last year, of course,
he got hurt and thrown eight interceptions and only eight games,

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so he was throwing one a game at that point.
The thing that has changed with Dak since his injury,
man since he broke his foot or his leg, i
should say, is his mobility or his lack of mobility.
If you remember early on when he first came into Dallas,
he did a lot of boot legs. He did a

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lot of things where he could get out of the pocket,
and then of course he used his running, his running ability,
his legs to you know, call his own number and
get short yardages or even make long runs from time
to time. You know that that obviously changed when he
got hurt a few years ago, so he's not quite
that quarterback anymore. He was more accurate, in my opinion,

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when he was on the move than he is in
the pocket. And of course with them having changes on
the offensive line as well, that's going to affect some
of the things that he can do or not do,
depending on whether he moves or not. You know, he's
the entry his tenth season, so you don't expect him
to be running around back there. He's not Michael Vick.

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He's not Randall Cunningham. You know, he's not one of
those types of quarterbacks. But because he lost some of
that mobility when he broke that leg, I think that's
changed him as a quarterback and what he can or
can't do, because sometimes he tries to sit in that
pocket too long, and which hey, admirable take the hit.

(12:27):
I'm proud of you for that, but I think that
hurts him because then that means that he's trying to
force things that maybe aren't there.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Sometimes. What you got.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Well, I mean with your addition of Blue, you know
from Texas, and you probably watched him more than I
would have, you know, obviously coming out out of Texas.
I think that outlet valve of a guy and the
titan that you have in the tight end room, you know,
you know Ferguson, like I said, you know, I dubbed
him first down Ferguson. That guy is solid.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm not saying he's the greatest.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm not saying he's trying as Kelsey three time winner,
but he's He's a solid tight end. And I think
with somebody like a Blue when they do those kind
of just check down plays, that guy is explosive. I mean,
he's got speed. He looks like he's got a little
bulkier too.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
He's like you put on a little bit more muscle,
so he's a little bit stronger. And you can't discount that,
you know. I like the fact that he's going to
be in that backfield just when stuff starts breaking down
for Dak, you know, he can just kind of, you know,
shovel it off to him or just pass it out
into the flat or whatever he needs to do.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
What do you think about Blue being in addition to
this Cowboys team to help that.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, I'm gonna touch on him in just a second. Two,
but let me go back to your first point. Let
me go back to your first point about the about
the receivers. You know, do they have a potential to
be the best duel in the in the league. Certainly
very talented, both of them very talented. But let's be honest, man.
You know, CD hasn't always made the easiest catch when

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he needed to, when he needed to make a play
in a game, he didn't always do that. Picking found
a big falling out in Pittsburgh because he wasn't getting
the ball enough, you know. And again, some of those
quarterbacks that they had in Pittsburgh are nowhere close to
Dak even Dak Prescott today, So and I understand that,
And it's a different it's a different offensive, it's a
different philosophy for what he was playing. So potentially, yes,

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they can be one of the best duos in the league. Now, mentally,
can they keep it together and be supportive of one
another when one guy isn't making plays and isn't getting
the ball, but the other guy is. And that's gonna
be the key, you know, because what excuse me, wide receiver,
And I mean I say this, I say this with

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the utmost respect, and I also say it with a
lot of pride. Wide receiver is the biggest diva position
on the field because I don't care whether you play
Pop Warner, whether you play in the NFL, you always
I think you're open. You always think you should be
getting the ball on every play. You always think your
quarterback needs to do more to get you the ball.

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So I mean it's it's the same mentality no matter where,
what level or where you're at. And so I mean
it's one of those things. Man, Can they hang together?
Can they stick together long enough to make this thing
work over the next you know, a few months, you know,
into the playoffs and then maybe on a Super Bowl run.

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And that's more talking for later here in a bit.
But at the end of the day, you know, whereas
Pickens's head, he seems to be saying all the right things.
He seemed to be doing some things during training camp,
and I think he played in one of the preseason games,
so you know, the flashes are there, the potential is there.
I saw him a little bit when he played at Georgia,

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So I mean athletically. Man, this guy is gifted beyond measure.
Same thing with CD. You know, tremendous talent. It's not
a question about talent. It's definitely a question about making
the plays when are necessary.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Again, the reason that Michael Irvin is still regarded as
the greatest wide receiver in Cowboys history is because he
made the plays that needed to be made at the
most critical times of a game to get him a
first down, to keep the chains moving, to get him
into scoring position, or to get a pass over the middle.
These guys don't go over the middle like they used

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to back in the day, so you know. So, so
you know, that's why he's regarded the way that he's regarded.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So that's why I say, Man, I mean, until they
show me that they're about the big moment, in the
winning moments, then the question to me will still be there.
Are you good enough?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Are you the man? You know?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because we can talk about, oh, they gave him eighty eight,
he's the eighty eight, he's not.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's not. He's a guy who wears eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
There's a difference between a guy who wears eighty eight
and being eighty eight. And nobody can convince me otherwise.
And I know Michael Irvin loves him. That's his son.
He talks about my son's CD. But let's be honest,
y'all ain't on the same level. You're not on the
same level. So there's that. As far as Blue, as

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far as some of the other guys that they have
that they picked up in the running back room, it's
gonna be real interesting to see what they can do
because those running backs are gonna be critical not only
in the running game to help this offensive line get
settled in, but also in the passing game because, like
you said, some of these little you know, dump offs
and little flares to the outside. You know, the running

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backs are going to be key in that. The other
thing they're gonna be key in is picking up pass coverage.
Can they make the blocks? You know, as excited as
we might be about Blue, as exciting as he can
be because he is electric, he's still a rookie, you know,
can he pick up blitzes, Can he read defenses? Can

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he be in the right position to protect his quarterback?
And that to me is going to be just as boy.
The success of this Cowboys team will come down to
one thing. Can Dak Prescott stay healthy for seventeen weeks
and then into the playoffs? That's it. It don't matter
what these other guys are, what their potential is, what

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they could be. If he's not healthy, this team will
not win very much. I mean, that's just the way
it is. That's the way it's been the last few
years when he's been out. That's the way it's going
to continue to be, especially since, in my opinion, they
took a step back at the backup quarterback position.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Go ahead, just a little bit more about Blue and
I guess I'll ask the question after that. Here's what
I like about him. Man, he's played at Texas. Bro
last year, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Bro, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, wait wait,
hold on. He played at Texas, but he didn't play.
Last year was the first time that he played. As
much as he did. He was there for three years.
He was red shirted, and then he didn't play that
second season, not because he didn't have the talent, but
because he couldn't beat out the guys who were there

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like Roshawn Johnson and Bjon Robinson. So, yes, he was
at Texas for three years, but he didn't play as
much as you would like to for a guy to
be at that school and say, Okay, he's played a
lot of football, because he really hasn't. Honestly and truthfully,
he hasn't. I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, No, what I'm gonna say is him being at
Texas and them making that deep run. I don't think
he's gonna be too uncomfortable under the bright light.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So he's kind of experienced that to some degree.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's what I wanted to give him, kind of a
little bit of a pat on the back flour, So
I don't think the moment will be too super big
for him. I mean, yeah, he's a rookie man, he's
still playing against grown ass men. But I don't think
the moment's going to be as big for him as
a different kind of player. You know what I'm trying
to say, Like, let's just say some player out of
ball state or some shit.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Texas is a big program, dude, don't you don't deny it,
you know, don't deny that because you played for Texas
that it's still a step down.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean, yeah, it's still a step down.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
But he's still been in kind of those situations and
the critical times, and to me last year, and I
guess that's probably the bigger sample size that I have
of him. He didn't seem to make a lot of mistakes.
He seemed to be because he's keep being coached by
a great coach. And that's the thing, you know, you're
being coached by a great coach, those basics, those things
you need to do. And then some of his talent,

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you know, his speed and his breakaway speed and that
sort of thing. I think is it is. I think
it's gonna be a benefit, not a detriment, you know.
Getting back to Dak, And that's just what I think
about him, you know, And again, you know, it's hard
for me to praise Texas guys because I'm not a
Texas fan, but that's what I noticed about man. He
did make mistakes, and if he did, you know, they

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were probably rare. You know, he doesn't fumble the ball.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
You know, a lot of things he did did right
as opposed to wrong. Getting back to Dak. Do you
think that Dak can with these two receivers and a
guy like Blue and the moves that they made, can
he be in the MVP conversation again, Man, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I think that's possible.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't care if he's in the MVP conversation. What
I care about is can you win when it matters?
That's what matty, the the MVP all that, all those
awards come if you win, if you're the best player,
they're gonna notice you, no matter who you play for.
And I don't need him to play on an MVP level.

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I need him to play on a very good level
to get us through the season and then into the playoffs.
You want to pique my interest. You want to get
me watching every Sunday. You want to make sure that
I'm paying attention. You want me to come back on
the podcast the following week and talk about what they
did and how they did win, win.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
It's that simple.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Don't get blown out, don't lose two teams you're not
supposed to, don't don't suck against the better teams. Go
out there and win. And if your quarterback is winning,
he's going to be in the conversation. Look at Joe Burrow,
Joe Burrow. Everybody talks about Joe Burrow and how great
Joe Burrow is. Joe Burrow this Joe Burrow that he

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had one great season and he was in the MVP conversation.
Last year, his team didn't make the playoffs, his team
didn't win like they were supposed to. So it didn't
matter if he's in the conversation, It doesn't matter if
he's one of the top two candidates for the MVP.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
You have to win in this league.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
The guys that win on a consistent basis get taken
to whatever awards show they get taken to so they
can be presented that trophy. That trophy doesn't mean jack
to me as a Cowboys fan, or they shouldn't mean
anything to any Cowboys fan. You know why, because we
only have one as a franchise. We have one MVP

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trophy as a franchise. You know who won that, Emmitt
Smith in nineteen ninety three. So that trophy doesn't mean
anything to me. That means absolutely nothing to me. I
don't care if he gets to that level. What I
care about is is he protecting the ball? Is he
staying healthy? Is he making the plays that needs to
be made at the critical times? And has he leading

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this team like he needs to lead them through this season?
Do I expect them to go seventeen to no. No,
But do they have enough talent and potential to be
one of the better teams in the league and possibly
win their division?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yes, And then from that point forward we'll see. But
through the season, through the season, MVP doesn't mean anything
to me.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
What do you got? What about you?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I guess the next question is, obviously it's this fucking
trade with Micah and what happened and how it happened,
and whether it should happen or where is a good
thing or bad thing? You know, It's been like a
yo yo thing of emotions. I think for some people,
not me, not me, you know, running through the hill,
not me, I know, not you saying so everybody has
got an opinion. Everybody thinks it's the end of the

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world for the Cowboys, and then there's other people think
it's a great thing because they got tired of his
bullshit and his podcast and it's talking and dad. You know,
I was on the fence, But once it happened, I
actually was kind of relieved, to be honest, just personally,
deep deep, deep down inside.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I was relieved because I'm like, dude.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
You're fucking holding this team costage he could have easily
held out through into the season, you know, And he's
not like a fucking Emitt Smith. When Emmons Smith did it,
you know what I'm saying, Emmitt Smith was the best
damn player in the league, you know what I mean.
He was the best guy on the team at that time.
You know, you're not no fucking Emitt Smith, bro. And
everybody's tradable, everybody's got a price, And at the end

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of the day, he chose money over the team and
being part of what he needed to to move this
team forward earlier, Right, I sent you some stats and
I was looking at him. I'm like, these don't fucking
jump out at me, Right, for the last two year,
the last two years, they don't jump out at me
of him getting these sacks. And when he did, it
was like the lesser opponent team. So to be honest,

(25:08):
I'm just relieved. I'm not I don't know if it's
a good or bad thing because I don't know what
it's going to impact the defense that we have now
and the players, And I got to focus on the
team and the players that we have now. Apparently we
picked up a guy that's solid, But I don't I
don't know that. And as far as the trade, I mean,
I just wanted to say a little bit about him.
And we are a podcast about sports, So what are

(25:29):
your thoughts about when him leaving and the way he left?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So first of all, hold on, give me a second,
give me just one second. I'm going to give you
my opinion. I'm going to give you my thoughts. I'm
going to tell you exactly what I feel about this
whole damn thing. So, first of all, this whole hold
out thing was bullshit. Okay, let's make that very clear.
It was bullshit. That's what it was. It was unnecessary.

(25:56):
He still had three years under his current contract this
season and two more. Why in the hell he decided
that now he wanted to get more money and he
wanted to do this, this, and this with his contract.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I have no idea. I have no idea, But what
I have.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Learned is that his agent is notorious for these types
of tactics and pushing this narrative that they have to
get their money now, they have to get their money now.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Guess what, It's not about the player's money. It's about
his money. He's trying to get his money now because
he knew. He knew that Micah and Jerry had already
been talking and that they had agreed in.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Principle to a deal.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Now, if you look at the contracts that have been
signed here over the last few months, in the last week,
you know, they just signed Bland today a four year
contract I believe ninety two million, and Ferguson I think
was four years earlier.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
This Offseas.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
CD last year, Dak four year, like all of these
contracts for four years. But for whatever reason, Jerry was
willing to go five with Micah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So Michael would have been thirty thirty one if he
would have signed the five year contract.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So when you look at that, Jerry offered him five
at forty one, which would have been two hundred and
five million. He signed for four for one eighty eight,
so that's forty seven million, okay. So he did technically
make more money by signing that contract per year. But

(27:43):
when you factor in the cost of living, the taxes,
and all the other things that factor in, he ended
up leaving Dallas and over the course of his contract
with Green Bay, in comparison to what would have been
a five year contract with the Cowboys, he left the
Cowboys to go earn in four years with the Packers

(28:08):
nine hundred thousand dollars more over the life of his contract.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Tell me how that makes sense. Tell me how that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
And then the guy comes out in an interview at
the end of last season or around the Super Bowl
or whatever it was and says, thirty forty million dollars,
it doesn't matter to me. I'm not about the money.
I'm about winning and putting myself in the best position
to win. I want my team around me to win.
And then this happens. How is that possible? The thing

(28:39):
I sent you a little while ago, as we were
exchanging different different links and different photos is exactly what
I knew was going to come out.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
The teammates are now saying.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That they were upset about the podcast, They were upset
about his commentary. They were upset about how he behaved
and how he didn't always want to take accountability. If
we remember, there was a little bit of a spat
when Tank Lawrence signed his free agent deal with Seattle.
Tank said something about it. He said something back to Tank,

(29:12):
and it kind of went back and forth, and everybody
Cowboys Nation was like man Tank you ain't done nothing.
Get out of here. You know, Micah's the guy. We're
all supporting Micah. We're behind Micah because he's a cowboy
and whatever. Which fine, that's what we did, right, But
at the end of the day, what Tank was saying
was true. He was spending more time worried about clicks.

(29:32):
He was spending more time worried about the superstars, the celebrities,
the people that he wanted to be around and himself.
Then he did about this team like he was trying
to convince everybody. So to me, good reddits to me,
he don't mean nothing no more. He's gonna play against
the Cowboys on September twenty ninth, a Sunday night game,

(29:57):
or maybe it's a Monday night game. I remember a
Sunday night or Monday night. But whatever it is, he's
gonna come back to Texas. He's gonna play against the Cowboys,
and then we go from there. You cannot deny what
the guy accomplished with the Cowboys, fifty two and a
half sacks in four seasons.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
But like you said, maybe those numbers lie. Maybe those numbers.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Aren't quite as good as they look because of the
fact that most of those sacks are in the first
half of every year. So if you're getting ten sacks
in eight games, that's great, right, that looks great. But
when you only average four more sacks over the next
eight weeks, what good does that do me? And one
stat that I know you're gonna love, one stat that

(30:43):
you're gonna hear that you're really gonna shake your head
at four career playoff games, four career playoff games, four
quarterback pressures. That means he almost got to the quarterback
and only one career sack in the playoffs. One career

(31:05):
sack in the playoffs from what is supposed to be
the most dominant defensive player in the league, the guy
that said that he should be making money.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Like TJ. Watt, like Cosby.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
From the Raiders, okay, and like whoever, yeah Boza and
like some of these other guys. Okay, you have one
career sack in four playoff games, you have four pressures.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Maybe it's different, and maybe it's different in Green Bay.
Maybe it's different. Maybe he does something more. Maybe he
does for Green Bay what Charles Haley did for the
Cowboys back in the nineties, and he transforms them into
a winner. I doubt it because Charles Haley came with rings. Okay,
Micah has never won anything, He's never done anything to say,

(31:58):
hey man, this guy's a winner. Oh wait, I forgot
he did win the forty yard dash at the Pro
Bowl because another team was playing in the Super Bowl
while he was out in Orlando playing kid games with
his with his buddies. Okay, so he did win that,
but let's let's not. Let's not sit here and pretend

(32:20):
like he did anything of great significance when it mattered.
The thing that's gonna upset Cowboy fans over and over
again is the exact thing that we've talked about on
every episode that we've talked about the Cowboys. They're not
about winning, and that goes back to Jerry. Jerry is

(32:42):
not about winning. Okay, Jerry's about profits. Jerry's about the dollars.
Jerry's about being the most watched entity out there. That's
what Jerry is about.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay. I've said it on countless occasion.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
If this team wins, if this team were to actually
win something, and when I say that, I mean the
Super Bowl, the internet would crash. The TV ratings would
be through the roof the merchandise sales would be astronomical.
There would never be a thing that anybody could say

(33:21):
if this team became a contender and a champion over
a period of time where they've done it, like now,
what Philadelphia has done. Philadelphia has won two in the
last what six years?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
The Chiefs have.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Won three and five what the Patriots had done before that? So,
I mean, shit, dude, Tampa Bay has won two damn
Super Bowls since the Cowboys won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
They've won two since the last time the Cowboys won.
So all of this drama, all of this bullshit, it
goes back to Jerry. I blame Jerry for this. I
blame Micah for this. It's not gonna get better until
they actually win something. Now, as far as what the

(34:07):
defense is, now, what the defense could be, we'll see.
They've got talent and this guy that they traded for
he helped Green Bay to have the number seven rush
defense last year in the league, So potentially they still
have talent that could do well. My favorite guy, Ozigi Zua,

(34:29):
got re signed. So, I mean, the the talent is there.
The problem is you won't have over shown to start
the season, Diggs is still a question mark. You really
still have not filled the other side of the of
the of the defensive back side. You have Bland, but

(34:51):
he's more of a nickel than he is a starting corner.
So I mean there's still some questions there, man, that
that they're gonna have to answer, and I don't know
if they fill those needs like they needed to. I'm
glad it's over. I'm like you, I don't have to
say his name anymore, you know what I mean. I'll

(35:11):
probably cuss him if he goes into the Texas Stadium
and gets like three sacks on Dak when they play,
But other than that, I don't have to mention this
guy ever again.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hope he's happy. I hope he got what he wanted
and go do your thing. But as far as I'm concerned,
he's dead to me. They don't play for the Cowboys,
He's dead to me. So your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Just you're right, man.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
The game is on the twenty eighth of This is
Sunday night games, so obviously it's all the eyes are
going to be on that game for not just the.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Importance of it. It's in Jerry world.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
It looks like from what I'm seeing here on the schedule,
So who knows what that will bring. My next question,
I guess let's just throw the whole season or the
whole NFC East And to question, do you think the
Cowboys have the tools and the players to be the
top of the NFC East this year?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, the East has gotten better. I mean, let's not
deny it. You know, the the Eagles, obviously they're the man.
They up at the top right now. They won the
division last year. They've got the trophy this year. And
that's not a movie prop like that damn Rocky statue
is you know, this is a real that's a real trophy,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Uh So, so, you know that's.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
That's the first thing. The second thing, Washington, they made
the playoffs last year. They went to the NFC Championship
with a rookie quarterback. Uh So, obviously, you know they're
a better team. They've done some things to improve their
team this offseason. The Giants seem to be having things
moving in the right direction. They still have questions at quarterback.

(36:52):
I don't trust Russell Wilson. Uh The only the only
good thing about Russell Wilson is who he's married to Sierra.
So when you see him, you see her. That's not
a bad visual. Russell, get out of the way. Nobody
wants to see you anyway. But other than that, uh,
you know, there's some there's some competition there.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Now can the can the ball bounce in the Cowboys way?
That's the big question, right because I think they're gonna
be able to score with these teams, but can they
make can they make a critical stop? Can they cause turnovers?
And you know, can they make the plays that are necessary?
If you're asking me right now, I'm telling you no,

(37:33):
They're not winning this division in my opinion, the team
to beat in this division is Washington. In all honesty,
it's Washington because as great as Philadelphia was last year,
I think teams will be better prepared for them, especially
the Saquan effect right and and Saquon played at an

(37:53):
MVP level. He played very well. Uh, he played to
his potential and I think him being in that system
helps him a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But I still think that.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Washington right now may have the better team overall and
the way, and we know because dan Quinn was in
Dallas the way dan Quinn coaches people up, makes them
believe in the talent that they have, and for the
most part, puts people in the right places at the

(38:25):
right time. I think he's gonna make a big difference
in them and it's gonna help them to take another step.
Now it comes down to Philadelphia Dallas for that second
spot and whether or not one of those two teams
are gonna make the playoffs. If you ask me right now,
I say Philadelphia has a slight edge just simply because

(38:45):
Dak coming back from this injury and the questions that
they have on the defensive side. So the running game
is going to be critical for the Cowboys. How that
defensive how that whole defense gels together, is going to
be critical now that that you know who is gone, okay,
and then of course Dak himself.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
So if you ask me who's winning it, I'm gonna
tell you right now, Washington is your twenty five NFC's champion.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
What are your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I see more of the Eagles still, just because you know,
they beat the man to beat the man, they're the
guys still. Because the Saquon I think he's just that
X factor, not the X factor, but he's just that leader. Man,
he's elite duck. He's gonna You're gonna go as far
as Saquon can take you. But let's think about it.
I don't remember Saquon always being healthy every year, you know.

(39:38):
I always see him getting injuries here and there from
what I can recall. And that's why the Giants would
always like kind of sink to the bottom.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And that's just it.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
I mean, let's just say it happens again, and maybe
it happens, it's a wrong time for the Eagles. I
think the Cowboys can overtake that spot. Here's what I
think about Washington Redskins. I'm gonna say it until we
will it into existence, man, I mean, because it's bullshit.
Is stunt, that bullshit name, and that's what pisses me
off every time I hear the word or term Washington
person whatever. I think that he's gonna have a slump, man.

(40:10):
I think the quarterback is gonna have a slump because
the people have figured him out.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Now.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
That happens every year, right, every other year, you get
this new flashy toy. Everybody gets a new flashy toy.
But until people figure out your tendencies, the defense can
now you know target you, they can see what you're
trying to do. And if they get more familiar with
your offense and what your not only tendencies are, but
what you're good at doing and what throws you're good
at making, I think it just makes you struggle more

(40:35):
and then you have to compensate for that. Then you
have to adjust, and you have to audible out see
the mismatches all that sort of thing. You know, there's
too many moving parts to that. And that's why I
don't think Washington and I'm not saying the Cowboys are
gonna win the NFC East. I think that they can,
you know, and you're right, I think Washington has a
little bit of a leg up because just I don't

(40:58):
know what it was about me watching the playoffs last
year and watching some of those games, same thing with
the Cowboys and.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Going back to the Cowboys playing the Packers, it.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Just seems like the defense wants to play when they
want to play it bro And maybe Micah is a problem.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
There was a problem there.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Maybe it was something bigger, because there was some games
where the Cowboys looked at they'd be world beaters, and
then they go into a scheme where they go up
against an opponent opponent and then there's problems and it's okay,
can you adjust for that? Can you play better in
the second half? Can you you know what I mean?
There was decision making and no scheme change when you

(41:35):
needed to or at the wrongest time back and play
would happen and somebody would drop a coverage or someone
would miss a tackle.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I mean, it just it was funny, dude. It was
almost comical.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
I would notice it, like, how is this some guy
on Green Bay just seem like, you know this this
quarterback turned into fucking you know, Joe Montana, and I
was like, what the hell, bro? I mean, it was
it was painful to watch. Things are like, okay, we're
not winning this game. You kind of already knew it
because I mean, how are those guys getting those touchdowns

(42:07):
out of the blue, out of thin air? When the
Cowboys where, in my essence and my idea, the better team.
But still it's just I mean, somebody out coached you, bro,
that's the problem. And I'm still if beyond Schottenheimer, that's
my biggest caveat, you know, and we've talked about it
in the past, and maybe we need to bring it
up to the forefront the coach. What can he do,

(42:30):
what kind of mentality, what kind of culture, what kind
of I don't know what he needs to bring. What
you know, thors hammered, does he need to bring to
bring lightning into those you know, those locker.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Rooms and those running back rooms and quarterback rooms. Everything.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
He's gonna have to split the switch and get these
guys to start believing.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Apparently he's been doing a lot of different things.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
He's getting these guys to sort of go out and
do things together and be more like not on their
phone all the time talking to each other, but in
reality like be next to your your teammates and doing
those types of things to bond. I don't know how
that far, how far that will take you, because you
still have to have the talent to go out there
on Sunday and win or Thursday or whatever day the

(43:12):
games are gonna be and you just have to make
the plays, man, call the right plays, be be great
at on Sunday when the time comes, because you're gonna struggle.
I mean, you can't. Everybody. Everybody that you play, You're
not gonna blank them. You're not gonna you know, hold
them to zero. You know that just doesn't happen. That's

(43:33):
not realistic. You know, other teams are gonna score on you,
other polayers are gonna make plays on you. But are
you gonna start king on them and slowing them down
and shutting them down when you need to to overcome
those those lack of points you have to There's so
many different things, and I have so many question marks,
but I will say this the thought and the idea

(43:55):
of a new coach, because I mean, we have to
get past the clapper, right, and we have to get
past your favorite guy. And now we're starting a whole
turning a whole new not just chapter, but starting a
whole new book. I'm hoping that it's that his philosophies
and his culture is probably that last ingredient.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And I hate saying it.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I don't want him to have Jerry look good because
it's just Jerry Man Jerry.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It's funny. And I was watching that Netflix thing and I'm.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Sure you saw it, and it's kind of like a
slap in the face. At the same time, it gives
you like, oh, this is what they used to be like,
and they were great, But it's almost a slap in
the face at the same time, because like, oh look,
how long ago this was. The league was different, right,
the players had different. The word I think you love,
and I think that I love more than anything is accountability.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
You have to hold yourself accountable, not just you, but
you got to walk into a locker room and be
a leader and hold everybody else accountable too. And when
everybody starts doing that, whether you win or you lose,
it doesn't matter. At least he went out there and
you gave your best effort, you stopped him on certain
critical downs, you kept the game closed. And let's just
say they lose all the games this year by one point.

(45:09):
I would at least hang my hat on that because
at least you were fighting. Your defense hung tight, your
offense tried whatever they could to make points. You know,
and I hate saying that right now, I think my
favorite player is still Brandon Hawbrey again, and it's which
is sad, But Dak needs to be on the field,
you know, Dak needs to be healthy. DK needs to

(45:29):
start thinking in the way of and I don't think
I don't know if he does or doesn't have that
mentality to take him all away but I have I
know he has the tools. I know he's got the arm.
He's a big, strong guy, and I think he can
do it. But maybe it just wasn't clicking with all
the offensive coordinators you've had, and maybe this is the one.
Maybe this is the one that's going to say, Okay, look,

(45:51):
Dak is this age now.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
He can't run as much as he wants to.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
He may be able to to move the pocket, or
he be able to do certain things, and you have
to you have to factor that into the game plan,
right And I think that's where it's gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
The coach, the offensive.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Coordinator, Dak's arm and his legs and his decision making.
But again, at the end of the day, accountability for
all the guys from all the levels of the defense,
to the O lines to the D line to the
running back room. All those guys have to hold themselves accountable.
And I think they can win some games. Can they
win the NFC East? No, But I think they have

(46:28):
the opportunity to because you never know, man, you might
get on a run and it could happen. But again,
the NFC East is always crazy, bro, you and I
know that.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, it's gonna be wild. I mean, you know, like
you say, they haven't had back to back winners in
some time, you know, and it's it's just one of
those things that that's just the way the NFL is.
It's pretty pretty even across the board. You're right, these
guys got to be accountable, you know. Troy Aikman, Troy

(46:58):
Eikman tells the story about them being in them being
in Detroit for a game, and you know they're they're
they're just about on that first Super Bowl run. You know,
the season's almost over, and they're getting ready to go,
and Michael.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Irvin is late.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
The plane leaves at one o'clock and everybody knows that
they're supposed to be there no later than twelve forty five.
And Michael shows up at twelve fifty and Jimmy says,
is everybody on? And the coach that's supposed to track that,
he tells him Michael's still on the tarmac. He's just
getting here. Jimmy tells the stewardess close the door. We're leaving,

(47:43):
so it tells the pilot wheels up, let's go, and
the plane starts moving. Michael Irvin's standing on the side
grabbing his bags, sees the plane leaving and he had
to go back into the airport and get it, get
a plane to Detroit so he could make it to
the game on Sunday, and Jimmy benched him for the

(48:04):
first series of the game. They had a three and out,
and then the second series Jimmy puts him back in
the game and the Cowboys win the game. He goes,
Jimmy didn't care if you were the star or if
you were the last guy on the team. You were
held to the same accountability across the board. Now, how
he enforced things might be a little different, because Jimmy

(48:26):
Johnson said it himself. If you were the guy out
there and you were the star and you were making plays,
he treated you differently from the benchwarmer who didn't do
anything the whole game. So it was a different playing field,
but the accountability was the same. And that's the one
thing that the Cowboys haven't had in decades. There's nobody

(48:46):
holding anybody accountable. You know, Jerry always gets on his
show and talks about, well, you know, they made a
good effort and you know, we'll have to make some
adjustments for next week and try to make this thing better.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
The only way you make that thing better. The only
way you make that.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Thing better is by holding people accountable. You know, the
only way you make that thing better is by putting
your boot in somebody's ass and telling them, Hey, you've
got to be better, you got to do your job better.
You won't be here again. The NFL should stand for
not for long because you play for the Dallas Cowboys.
And that's that's the one thing I give Parcels a

(49:20):
lot of credit for, and I think a lot of
the coaches over the last few years have kept this
in place. Parcels didn't give people a star when they
first came in, you know, they practiced with no stars
on their helmet, because he told them, you have to
you have to, you have.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
To earn that star.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
And we've gone thirty years man, without those guys earning
that star, in my opinion, and it's far too long.
I mean, we're not Cleveland, we're not Detroit, we're not Houston,
We're not you know, some of these other lower end teams.
We're not the Panthers, we're not the Jaguars. Okay, they

(50:00):
are the damn Dallas Cowboys. And at some point somebody
up there. Has got to get them to act like
the Dallas Cowboys as far as their record goes, Uh,
give me eleven and six.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I don't I don't see them.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I don't see them, you know, just being gangbusters and
blowing everybody out and and running away with this thing.
I think I think some of those games are gonna
be in dog fights, and I think some of those
games they may get blown out because, like you say,
they're not executing, they're not doing their part, they're not
taking care of what they need to. Uh So it's

(50:37):
gonna be interesting to see, uh you know, where they
can pick up those eleven wins.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But I think realistically they have the talent to get
eleven wins.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I'm gonna call it right now, just simply because it's
on Thursday night, it's primetime. I'm gonna call the upset.
I think they're gonna beat the Eagles. I think they can.
They can beat the Bears, and they can beat the Jets.
I mean, I'm sorry, not the Jets, the Giants. I
was looking at the other New York team. And then

(51:13):
beat the Bears, and then you know that game against
the Packers. That game against the Packers is gonna be
critical to you know, because they could they could be
anything from two and two to three and one or
zero to.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Four in those first four games.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Like that's how ridiculous it is for this team, you know,
because they should beat the Giants and the Bears, right,
they should be able to beat the Eagles or the
Packers now maybe even beat both of them. But which
Cowboys team shows up?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So I again, I think I think eleven and six
and that may be just enough to get him in
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I'm not there.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
I'm at ten wins because, like you said, we haven't
had a sample size of back and see what the
hell he can do. And I think let's think about
the other running backs too. And I know I hate
throwing this in late at the conversation, you know, Lifke
and Turpin and.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Blue. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I put a lot of shine on him because he's
the new shiny toy. But I think he's very versatile,
you know what I mean? And you know he can
do things if you can set up in an eye
formation with him, right, you could put Hunter Lifkey in
there and he can you know, block for him. And
I never thought i'd say, eye formation with the Cowboys
in a long time. But I think that's something that

(52:42):
can happen because Hunter Liftkey can actually catch the ball
out of the backfield as well. Dude, he's still pretty quick,
He's still got some skill. You know, He's not going
to outrun a school bus and get a ticket, but
he's He's a guy that I think that people overlook.
But again, I mean, there was so many moving parts
over the offseason with Micah and all his crap, and

(53:05):
you know, the movement of getting pickings and just too
many things. A different coach now, a different OC a
different defensive coordinator. There's just so many moving parts. I
don't think they can win eleven games. I think it's
more closer to ten. And I hate being the you
know that kind of guy, but I mean, it's just
I'm looking at the schedule and some of these games

(53:26):
are like when we talked about, you know, the long
runs and the aggies and trap games. There's too many
trap games because of the Thursday games. There's so many
Thursday games.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, but you keep complaining, But bro, you keep complaining
about Thursday games, but they still get the same amount
of time off as everybody else. They play on Sunday,
they play on Thursday, and then they have ten days off.
So it's not like, oh, they're playing, they're playing Sunday
Thursday and then playing again the next Sunday. No, they're
getting ten days off. They're getting ten days off that

(53:55):
you know it'll be fine, It'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Again. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I'm on the other end of that coin, man, I
just because I think, yeah, but you're playing two games
in a short amount of time and there's just more
risk of injury, you know what I'm saying, And that
just kind of throws them up everything that you're trying.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
To do for the for the long haul.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
But they're not the only but they're not the only
team there.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
I think they can win ten games. I think they
can win ten games. I think they can potentially win eleven.
And I'm hoping they win this fucking Packer game because
I think that's gonna be the litmus test. And I
know that's jumping three games ahead, right, But the Packers
were in the playoffs last year. There's a their playoff team,
and you know, I think they can beat that team
at home. I believe it. But again, at the end,

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of the day, we'll see what happens. So I think
that Packer game is very important because by then we'll
know what the record is, who they are, because once
you played two or three games and you kind of
know the what is it?

Speaker 3 (54:51):
What do you call it?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
The the identity of the team? Right, you have to
know the identity of the team. What are we a
passing team? Are we a running team? Are we both?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Are we? What are we? You know?

Speaker 4 (55:01):
And I think that's another question mark. And you did
throw winder. What kind of team is the Cowboys gonna be? Offensively?

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Right?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Defensively they've struggled for years now, and that's what's cost
them in the playoffs, I think, and I'm just being
honest because you've seen it, I've seen it. They couldn't
fucking stop anybody in the playoffs, you know. But I
think that that Green Bay game is a good like
benchmark of Okay, this is what we are, this is
our identity.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Let's run with this till the end of the season.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
And you're right, those Thursday games, You're right, they get
the time off, but there's it's just so many there's
one more game to add it to the season.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
What last year or the year before another thing.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
It's just it's always it's always always a rough schedule, right,
It's always you know, man, I don't know who makes
these schedules, but it's always a rough schedule for those
trap games that I hate calling them, but it's just.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
It's gonna be rough.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Man. Not only that, the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, you know,
that's gonna be pretty crazy. We'll see what happens there.
And that's another game that I'm really looking forward to.
I'm really debating even going to. But you know, we
always have Thanksgiving at home. I'm always at home, and
this is the one time that I really really want
to might go.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You only want to go so you can see Taylor.
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
We all know the real reason you want to You
wanna go get your Taylor Swift shine on.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
You know, Lisa's probably driving that bus. She realizes she's
probably gonna be at the game. She's gonna want to go.
I mean, by all means go do it, go, do it,
don't don't think about it, don't think about it. Make
make it happen. Make I'm telling you, make it happen.
Make it happen. But I mean again, man, I mean

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their schedules no more, no more difficult than anybody else's
what about the teams that go play in Europe, you know,
have to travel across the world to go play in
England or Germany or whatever. You've got teams that do
that every year. You know, the better teams are always
gonna be on TV, so they're gonna put them in

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the best TV time, you know, which in a lot
of cases are Thursday night games and Sunday night games
and Monday night games. So I mean, I get it,
I get it. But at the end of the day,
this is what you get paid for. I mean, let's
let's not sugarcoat this. Let's not act like they're flying
on that plane that they had the team in Major

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League flying on with a double propeller and the smoke
coming out and the chicken walking down the aisle. Let's
not pretend like they're they're like they're having a fly
in that Okay, So you know we know that they
they get treated pretty well, and they should.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
They're professional athletes.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
They get fed well, they get trained well, they have
all this stuff that they need, the bells and whistles
that comes with being a pro athlete nowadays. So you know,
we can we can sit here and nitpick everything and say, oh,
it's the schedule, it's this, It's no the end of
the day, what do you do between the lines. What
do you do between the lines is what matters the most.

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That's what gets you paid, that's what gets you remembered,
that's what gets people to stand by you through thick
and thin.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And that's it. I mean, that's that's just the way
it is.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Again, I see eleven wins. They're gonna have some difficult games.
They've got Detroit, they've got the Chiefs, they've got the Vikings.
You know, the Cardinals always seem to give them freaking problems.
The Broncos are better this year. You know, the Jets
will be improved, Like I said, the Giants could be
a little improved. So there's there's no cakewalk. I mean,

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if you want to say a cakewalk game, maybe that
Panthers game will.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Be the only easy win of the season.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
But yeah, man, I mean, they they definitely have a
tough schedule. They definitely are looking at at a lot
of difficult places to play and people to be lined
up against. But at the end of the day, man,
they got to go out there and do it. They
got to go out there and do it. They got
to show it, you know, like the old saying says, man,

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ye JOm, come get some, but you gotta be big
and bad enough to take some. And they they better
be big and bad enough to do it, because if not,
I don't know where they go from here. You know,
we saw how long Jerry was willing to stick with Campbo.
We saw how long he was willing to stick with
Yuck Yuck. We saw how long he stuck with the Clapper.

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You know, I think Schottenheimer is going to be another
one of these guys. He's a Jerry guy, and you
know we're gonna be stuck with him for a few seasons.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
But it's and it's not gonna This season is not
gonna be easy. And until we know what we have,
like we said, with Dak, the offensive line, the defensive
side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Uh, It's it's all a toss up at this point.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
So I'm still I'm still in myself imposed band, you
know what I mean. So I may or may not
tune in. I may or may not tune in on Thursday.
I don't know yet I haven't decided, so I will
let you will be amongst the first people to know
if I have lifted the ban. But I am telling

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you right now, I am not sitting through an entire
season of watching this team. I am not wasting my
sundays watching this team if they're gonna have ass things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Like they have the last two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I'm tired of putting in all the effort as a
Cowboys fan and they're not doing their part to make
me stay interested in the team. I will never leave them.
I will never cheer on another team. I will never
put on another jersey or another cap for another team.
But I will be damned if I'm gonna sit here
and continue to be Cowboy raw Rah guy when the

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Cowboys ain't doing anything to keep my interest or to
show me that they're about winning. And it's their own
damn fault. It's their own damn fault because they were
successful in the seventies when we were children. They were
successful in the nineties as we became adults. Where in
the hell is that success now? They did this. If

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they were just a one time Super Bowl winner, i'd
understand that, But they won five Super Bowls, within the
first thirty five years of their existence.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I didn't do that. They did that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
From nineteen sixty to nineteen ninety five. They won five
Super Bowls and made it to eight. That was one
Super Bowl every four years that they were in. They
won one Super Bowl every seven years. So they caused.
They caused this, not me. I'm just I'm just bold

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enough to say I've had enough. I have not bought
any new Cowboy merch. I am not gonna spend another
dollar or dime on this team. If somebody wants to
buy me a ticket, I'll gladly take it, but I'm
not I'm not spending another damn dime on this team
until they win.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
And winning to me comes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Winning to me comes in the playoffs, and more importantly,
it comes on the last Sunday of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Last thing I'm gonna say, Man, is all these fucking haters, Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Good god. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
All I gotta say is, man, come talk to me
when you got five fucking rings.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
You know these Eagles and there's all these other teams. Bro,
they talk so much shit about the Cowboys, like they
spend more time, you know, following the Cowboys and their losses.
Then like, hey, man, why don't you get your fucking
house in order when you got five rings? You know,
there's very few teams that even have you know, five,
let alone you know six. Stop just stop stop talking,

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close your mouth, shut the f up. That's what pisses
me off more than anything.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
All those neighbors out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
There, fuck y'all, man, you know, show up when you
got five and then we can talk.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Talk when you're in my neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
You know, remember what did Eric Dickinson say, Hey, when
they're getting close to that two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Thousand whatever yard mark or whatever he had.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
They don't talk to me when you're in another city,
you know, talk to me when you're in my block
down the street, getting close to my record, then we
can fucking talk. But other than that, just to shut
the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
The only the only people, the only people that I'm
willing to have a conversation with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Our Patriots fans.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I know, you hate that Steeler fans because both of
them have six, forty nine Ers fans because they have five.
And then the Broncos, oh I'm sorry, no, the Packers
and the Giants because they have four. So the Broncos,
the Chiefs, the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Redskins, the like.

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They all have three two to three, which is fine.
You can at least you can. You can talk to
me about your team being something, but you're right until
they actually win it, until they actually get there, don't
say anything. And as far as haters go, man, I
don't care. I don't care. I have so many damn
pictures and memes and videos and reels and tiktoks in

(01:04:24):
my damn messages from all of these different fan bases
of people that I know. It's fine whatever, I don't care.
But like I said, you want to shut them up.
You want to put them back in their place. You
want to get them to go, you know, be like
Baby from Dirty Dancing and sit in the damn corner.
Then freaking win, freaking win, win, win. On the last

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Sunday of the year, Okay, be in that game and win,
win that trophy one more time. Get to six. Then
do what you can to get to seven, to be
the first franchise to get to seven. Because right now
New England and Pittsburgh have a lead on you by
one and the forty nine Ers have made two Super

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Bowls recently, so they've almost got to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Well, now it's time for the Cowboys to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And whether it was because of somebody's podcast, or somebody
was a diva, or somebody didn't do enough, whatever, all
of those guys are gone. It's about the guys that
are in the locker room now. It's about this coach
and his staff and what the hell are they gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Because I'm telling you right now, we will.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Never see a time in our lifetime that a member
of the Jones family doesn't own the Dallas Cowboys. Whether
it's whether it's Jerry now or Steven when Jerry's gone,
or the sister or the other brother, or the nephews
and the sons and the nieces, it doesn't matter. There's

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never gonna be a time in our lifetime that Jerry
Jones does and have his hand on this damn franchise.
So the people that he puts on the field need
to do their part and make this thing happen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
And that's all I got. That's all I got. You
got anything else before we wrap this up?

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
No, sir, I'm ready for some football and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
It'll be interesting, dude. I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I can't wait to see how this thing's gonna play out.
But I'm not gonna hold my breath, so I'll let
you know. I'll let you know around five o'clock on
Thursday if I'll be watching. So it may be a
picture I send you, I may send you a video.
I don't know. I'll do something, but you'll know one

(01:06:42):
way or another if I'm watching, so just you can
anticipate that. So anyway, it's always good to talk football always.
I'm glad football's back, you know. And I know my
wife doesn't want to hear this, and I know a
lot of women that are out there that have husbands
that are interested in sports don't want to hear this.
But from now until about February sixteenth, I believe there

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is football every Saturday and every Sunday until then. So
you're looking at six months, almost six months worth of
football being played. And that also does include high school
games and stuff like that. So there's a lot of football.
There's a lot of football out there, man. So anyways,

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always a good time, man, anytime you want to talk football,
let me know. I'm always ready to chop it up
and we can go from there. And I'm sure we'll
have something to say after the Cowboys beat the Eagles.
And oh, by the way, I still hate Philly. There
ain't no brotherly love. I don't give two shits about
that team. I don't give two shits about that town.
I don't give two shits about that fan base. And

(01:07:50):
I'm gonna say it one last time, Apollo Creed would
still be alive today if it wasn't for that chump
Rocky Balboa. And then need to take that damn movie
prop down from the middle of their city. Fan Pole
Sports a true tech sports podcast for the true tex
sports fan. I'm Ronnie, that's Mark, and we're out peace.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
And this goes out to Jerry Jones.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Oh no, people saying I got a drinking that rest
the South. People saying that just cuz I'm leaving out
loud get people saying I got a drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I got bro drinking and talking Jesus they call it