93 | AFC/NFC West Breakdowns!!

In the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Bros Podcast, hosts Chazz and J Coleman delve into the Western divisions of the NFL. Starting with light-hearted banter over their nicknames, they analyze each team's off-season moves and projections.

First up, they dissect the Arizona Cardinals, evaluating key additions like Desmond Ritter while lamenting the loss of defensive stalwart Aaron Donald. The duo grades the Cards with a C- for their off-season maneuvers.

Moving to the Los Angeles Rams, they discuss the transition from Carson Wentz to Jimmy Garoppolo and the pivotal health of Cooper Kupp. Despite losing Aaron Donald, the Rams earn a stellar A grade for their off-season efforts.

The conversation broadens to cover the San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, and Las Vegas Raiders. They weigh the impact of roster changes on players like Christian McCaffrey and DK Metcalf, and speculate on the potential of newcomers and the future of quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes.

In the final stretch, the hosts explore trends like the return of two tight end sets and analyze the key additions and losses for the Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers, and Denver Broncos. They touch upon coaching changes and the quarterback landscape before concluding with their eagerly anticipated season predictions for the AFC and NFC North divisions.

Episode Transcript

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and I am joined by the thumbMan, the myth, the legend,

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mister J Colman. J Colman?What's up? Dogs? Going on?
Boys? And actually here for thestart of it. We have got the
no nickname, no nonsense, itdoesn't matter what's your name is. Yes,
made it they think you were.You were a wrestling fan with all
your wrestling drops. Finally made time. We made it on time. So

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y'all can see in my studio,my ugly ass wallpaper. How's it looking
fantastic? There's a reason I wouldrecord in my living room and not my
uh not my studio. And thisis why but whatever, we're here.
We are here. We are liveon Twitch, so make sure everyone's there.

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I'm getting logged in myself. Iknow this is great fucking radio right
now. But again, everybody,if you're if you're looking into, uh
wanting to hang out with us live, you can find us at the Chazz
cast on Twitch and on Wednesday night'sspout ten o'clock and you can hang out
with us and uh talk about it. So we are here. I'm just

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trying to get there so I canchat with people, because hopefully people chat.
So how are you guys doing today, h Adam? What is the
weather like out by you? Well, today got up to about ninety four
when the sun was out and thenwe had a little cloud cover kind of
cooled it down a little bit.But it's been nice and Sunday down here

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in the old Nashville, the NicevilleJay. What about you? It's hot
as fuck. Yeah, and thatyou can see on my new camera or
my new setup here. I'm sosweaty, but I'm working around guys.
I don't give a fuck what y'allthink. There we go, so no,
I'm in the chat too, alright, Okay, And it sounds good.

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All right, So we're in thechat now. We are here to
talk about the the Western divisions,because that is the U is my face
all washed out? Look very bright? Now it is? But hang on,
what about look very bright? We'renew new stuff that okay, let
me just turn this off. Isthat better? You're still very bright?

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We're learning a new studio that maan, it worse, it worse. That's
worse. Shouldn't be making it worse. This is better. We're good now,
right, that's okay? Yeah,for good. For some reason,
the light is right on the cameraand it seems to be better than on
my face because I'm greasy, Italian, nasty, sweaty. So we're talking

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about the Western divisions because they theWestern Division, guys, if you didn't
know they are, they are.They are the reigning, defending undisputed UH
Conference champions on each side, right, yes, sir, so at all

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West West super Bow, even thoughI mean Kansas City is not even near
the west at all, but whatever, they're midwest. Sure, I'll give
him midwest. That's probably more accurate. Yeah, they're also mid shots fired

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sorry Patrick, All right, thatdrop will never get old. And the
first thing in the chat is Uh, some making fun of my wallpaper,
Dave, go fuck yourself. Wellwe know this, we knew this.
Yeah, this is why I avoidedit for so long. See Dave,

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now you could see why it tookme so long. So we are breaking
down the uh we're going on bleacherreport for the what they did for their
off season grades. This ain't gonnainclude all the drafts or the draft picks,
but we just talked about the draftpicks a little the last two weeks.
So who needs to know? Andoh, Dave likes my wallpaper.

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Thanks Dave, you can record.Let's talk nerdy in here if you'd like.
So we're gonna start with, uh, we are going to start because
it's in alphabetical order. We aregoing to start with and the Arizona Cardinals.
So Jay, let's hear about theirkey editions, key edition center,

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Evan Brown defensive line, Bla Nicholsdefensive tackle, Justin Jones CBS, Sean
Murphy Bunting, QB, Desmond Ritter, ot Jonah Williams, and Albie mack
Wilson. Okay, so I meanwe all know the name Desmond Ritter,
of course, coming over from Atlantarunning quarterback back up Kyler, whatever it

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works. But Sean Murphy Bunting,I feel is a great ad. Yeah
for them under corner. Yeah he'sdefinitely an underrated cornerback. But yeah,
that's a good signing for them.And believe me, they need a lot
of homes. We say that,watch them make the fucking playoffs. Adam,

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you've got it pulled up. Whatare their key losses? Key losses?
The biggest one in my opinion istheir wide receiver Markusprout, Holly Wood,
Hollywood Brown, defensive tackle Leak,Antonio Hamilton, d J Humphrees,
Rondell Moore's the Gil Turner, andlinebacker rondew to the departure A couple of

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a couple of key ones there,I mean really, I mean they do
they do hit the word key.Uh, Hollywood and Rondell like that pretty
much depleted their receiving corps. Imean, they did draft Marvin Harrison,
so you can't replace both of theseguys, right, so you only get

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you're only getting one dynamic player back. And you know, and not that
Rondow Moore has been stunning, Butwho's had a better NFL career Ron Rondell
Moore or what's that shitty guy fromthe Chiefs that went to the Jets and
then went back to the Chiefs.Uh ship, I know you're talking about

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Hard Harden. Who's had the bettercareer because they're like the same player.
Oh, they're so fan It's gotto be Rondell Moore, right. I
feel like really didn't do anything inhis in his career, but he's just
like right, these guys are sofast. Yep, speed wins. Guys

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didn't know that draft worthy. We'renot in the Chiefs yet though, so
they it says here on the bleacherreport for their team needs, the number
one was wide receiver, and theycertainly attack that in the draft. Arizona,
No, I mean, I thinkthey're a touch underrated. Their defense
played pretty good last year. Kylerhe's better than we give him credit for.

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James Connor was running good. Nowthey got a bona fide if this
kid could step in and be atop ten to fifteen talent wise receiver in
the NFL. So like, Ithink they could be better than people give
it credit for. I don't knowhow, And this is just football talk
in general. I'm not talking aboutfantasy per se. I mean, I
think it's a bit of I mean, obviously, the the Niners are one

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thing, but I think it's abit of a weak division. I mean
last year, the year, youknow, the year prior, didn't see
Attle win it. You know,so like who's trash? Yeah, so
with right, Yeah, so that'swhat I mean. I'm like, you
got a class of the thing.I think the Rams are coming up,
and I think people aren't giving upmuch credit to h I mean, I

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think the Rams offense is coming up. Their defenses is just we'll get there.
The Cardinals aren't great. They onlywon four grams last year, so
no, true, but they didn'thave Kyler. No, but they didn't
have I mean they're not gonna haveKyler every year though, So I mean,
well for half the year though,Yeah, exactly when comes out,

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Yeah, you won't see it fora month and half. Well, hey,
this one might be two months becauseit's like, you know, like
three hundred gigs of video games.So I didn't know that. All right,
So we got some people in thein the chat now looking at it
all right, all right, Oh, I just realized that we can look
at the twitch chat right on ourstudio here. Yeah, you just figured

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that out. Yeah, can youanswer it? Yes you can, Yes,
you can. We're learning, folks, we're learning here. This is
one big thing though, that we'resleeping on too with before we move on
with Arizona's they've got almost thirty millionin cap space, so they can do
some stuff over the next couple ofyears. So, but their off season

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grade was a C minus and ofcourse, I mean they didn't do much
except drafted an amazing receiver. Butall right, so we're gonna, we're
gonna, we're gonna do this inorder. It's a little disjointed here on
the the way we're looking at it, so just give me a second to
fine. The next NFC West itgoes by alphabetic league guys, So who

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would that be? So we uh, the City Chiefs right now, that's
AFC, Yes, Ben, Ithink that's also Chargers, that's AFC.
They're all in order. Look atthat the rams. So we're talking about
RAN. So so this show godown a little bit. We're gonna talk

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about here we go. So they'rethere, Jay, I didn't even know
this first one. Jay, bythe way, so why don't you tell
us about their key editions? Uh? Uh, Chaz's favorite, QB Jimmy
g Let's reach out favorite guard Jacksonsafety, Cameron Curl safety, Darius william

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and c B Trey White. M. I had to put that in there.
Oh man, they lost Carson Wentz, son of a bitch. Uh.
Losing Carson Wentz and adding Jimmy Baroppolomight be a downgrade. It might
be down grad. Yeah. Iwas gonna say, I was looking at
this list and I go, waita minute. Their key loss is Carson

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Wentz, but the key edition isJimmy G. Yeah. I don't know
about that one, But why don'tyou tell us, tell us about their
key losses? Adams skipped that firstone, though losses skip the first one
because we'll talk about him at ten. Oh okay, Jordan Fuller, Coleman
Shelton, nobody cares, QB,Carson Wentz, H and Jonah Williams defensive

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lineman. Honestly, they're gonna beokay, Yeah, they'll be fine.
But but the problem is the biggestis Coleman Shelton related at all? No,
no, no, okay, justmaking sure of course, the biggest
loss we need to talk about isthe best defensive player of our generation in

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Aaron Donald Tyrant. Sure. Imean, man as a monster. What
is he three time NFL Defensive Playerof the Year and he only played for
ten years retired young. It's kindof like ten years, ten years ago,

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ten years, that's that's young one. You're as domin as is.
You gotta beat up a lot andwhen you got it, when you got
all that money, you just youdon't need to make anymore. So Dave's
calling for Trey White to step upand be a beast. What's up,
James, we see you out therein the chat, James. Uh.
So, like they they kind oflike there's no way, there's no way

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they can be better as a teamoverall because they lost their best player,
you know what I mean. Solike not the end of the world for
them, but like you lost yourbest player, that's hard to get over.
You lost the best defensive player inthe NFL. That sucks, you
know, But well, they losttheir best defensive player who they still got

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to pay because he retired under contract, I believe, and they're already got
like no caprom So, I meanit's gonna be tough. I think adding
Trey White was good. I meanwith incentive pay, he's not making a
ton. Maybe if an incentive apay, he makes more. But that's
that means he's playing well. Imean, the guy I was a stud.

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He just keeps getting hurt. Evenwhen he went down against Miami,
he was still played well. Butwell also you got factor in like he
was he was fucked up after thefirst injury and then to like finally make
it back and get his head rightand then for this to happen. We
have no idea what he's gonna be. Like, he could be totally shot.
Dave wants to know the over underon if Aaron Donald will come out

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of retirement after OTA's I'm gonna sayno, he I just feel like he's
done. I mean, what ishe going to come back to this team
for. I mean, I knowthey have some pieces here and there.
This team's not winning the Super Bowl, So what is he gonna come back
for? You know, I meanI don't think they're gonna win the Super
Bowl either, but I don't know. Sometimes you get the guy that's like,

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oh, I really missed the game. But I think if he's like
that, he wouldn't have retired inthe first place. Yeah, yeah,
maybe I can see the rams.I don't know. It's it's tough to
say if they're going to make arun or not. It all depends on
all the movie pieces. If Staffordstays healthy, if Cups stays healthy.

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And you know, these guys areno young, young guys anymore. So
He's only had one year, hesaid, two years because he missed his
whole rookie year. You guys forgetthat he wasn't out a rookie latch now
that was his gear style because hemissed his first year with rookie Ye.
Fine, so, but but I'msaying, we gotta be honest. You

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know, we're not you know,we're not looking at young guys on this
team, and and they haven't beenyoung in a long time. I feel
really they're always this team that youknow, has these old guys. But
you know it's I could if theyend up making a run and getting deep
into the playoffs and then they cansee some help. But I can see

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Aaron Donald going, yeah, youknow, and give me one more,
give me one more playoff runner.Okay, I gotta address some Dave said,
he said the super Bowl is outof reach. How different is this
team from the Super Bowl winning team? No, von Miller, No Aaron
Donald, no Jalen Ramsey. Right, I think Dyalen Ramsey's gone too.
But either way, your two.Yeah, so like your two, your

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three best defensive players are gone.Three the best defensive players in the year
of the league. And I getit. We don't like von Miller.
Von Miller was a menace still thenin the Super Bowl. So that's quite
a difference, you know. Imean, honestly, that's how big.
That's such a big difference, Dave, Like, I can't even I can't
even get to explain that completely different. I can't believe that they're that they

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lost Aaron Donald and don't really havea replacement. They still gotten an A
grade. Yeah, I saw thatwas I didn't even mention that the A
grade because they but they did agood job bringing some people in, you
know, it wasn't I mean,they they'll be okay. They'll be okay,
but or they could be bad.If Kyron gets hurt, Cooper Cup
gets hurt, Matthew Stafford's always bangedup, but he's tough, he plays

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through. He's a win that alwaysbattles through injury. And you know,
it doesn't matter the injury. Youknow, we know his history with his
back problems and everything like that,and his neck problems, and but I
mean, Stafford, I think he'sagain one of He's you know, he's
Stafford's my boy, And I can'tsay anything bad about him except that he's

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old, right, and he getshurt, but he plays through so the
majority of the time. But itis scary. But I mean, I
just I don't see them like maybethat, I think, Yeah, I
think last year was a figment ofour imagination. They got hot, but

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we also didn't talk about they gota fantastic head coach that I feel is
one of the best head coaches inthe game. So maybe he can't put
it all together. But I'm stillleaning towards that them being in a playoff
last year it was a bit ofa fluke. But well, see,
I mean, you can't lose AaronDonald and expect to be better. Period.
Yeah. Period. Yeah, ButI agree, I mean, he

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was just he was just a dynamicplaymaker. Man, Like every play was
blown up because of him, youknow, And everybody has bad games here
and there. Mom, Yeah,I don't want to hear it from anybody
that's like, oh, he wasnever good all the time. Yeah,
he pretty much was pretty much wasYeah, pretty much was. Yeah.
You never heard anyone doubt you know, the year and everything, and he
was always very durable. I don'tthink he missed many games due to injury.

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The last couple of years he startedtoo, sure, but when he's
in his thirties, yeah, yeah, you're definitely right. So I don't
know. I think it's a bitof a fluke. But I know you
guys like their weapons, and ofcourse, for this is fantasy football talk
to their weapons are good but healthy. And I did want to bring this
up because you know, I've talkedbefore about Kyra and I pushed down because

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of Blake corn Is steel in touchdowns, which is fine, Jay, Do
you do pull up Kyrone's stats fromlast year please? And but another big
thing is everyone loves Pooka. ButI don't know the exact numbers, but
like the splits of like what Pukadid with and without Cooper Cup was like

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eight point difference. Like when CooperCup didn't play, Puka was getting like
twenty one yards twenty one fantasy pointsa game. When Cooper Cup did play,
Puka was getting like thirteen. Solike that's a stark difference. All
right, what do you what youwant from him? So what were Kyrone's
stats? Uh, almost twelve hundredyards, twelve touchdowns, thirty two receptions,

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two hundred and six yards, threereceiving touchdowns, So fifteen touchdowns overall,
that's that's an awful lot. That'sright. Good, Yeah, that's
an awful lot. The great yearfrom the kid. But they drafted Blake
Koram, so like, if hetakes away five of those, he's still
gonna have a great season. ButI'm not. You cannot walk in to

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this draft thinking you're gonna get fifteentouchdowns out of him, Like, you
gotta pull it back in your expectations. We gotta remember this is a fantasy
show, right, So like yourexpectations shouldn't be Kyroen getting fifteen maybe ten,
nothing wrong with ten. This Seine'sa lot, though. I would
be I mean, I would definitelybe happy saying that Kyrine can get ten

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touchdowns for sure. Yeah, Imean, comeby, Brice Hall had nine
tall touchdowns and he finished second overall, so exactly, so it's not all.
But that's that's my worry with Kyrinand you just kind of proved it
with that Brice Hall Breeze holl Andhe had nine, he finished second overall.
Kyrine had fifteen and finished what wasit second? Was he thirty seventh?

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He was seventh with fifth teen touchdowns? So you take away some of
those touchdowns, you know what Imean, Like you need to worry about
that a little bit. A lotof his production was generated from touchdowns,
and if he loses touchdowns to BlakeCory also like Breese had like way more

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reception and receiving yards. So I'mye, but it's this fantasy. You
need to pick one accordingly. Soit's something to keep in your mind.
But we've talked about that. Butthe big one, like I said,
is Puka and Cup. If Cupis healthy, dude, Puoka's going at
the top of the second round.He played great last year. The Cup
was not healthy. You cannot draftPooka in the top of the second round

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and expect him to do what hedid unless Cup gets hurt. And I
truly mean that. If you lookat the stats when they played together,
it wasn't like Puka was nothing,but there were some games he was nothing,
Yeah, and then there were somegames where he still had a good
game, But I'm telling you I'mill prepared. But there's like an eight
point difference in his total points pergame with and without Cup, and that

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is something that needs to be discussed. And we all liked seeing what Pooka
did. It was incredible, butCup was not healthy for the majority of
the season. Dave is saying inthe chat, pook is an ideal keeper,
but in redraft he's going a tadbit too high, and I agree,
Yeah, top of the second roundis rough. I mean, who's

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to say, guys, just twoyears ago, Cooper Cup was the great
greatest, had the greatest wide receivingseason ever in the history of the NFL.
So why all of a sudden,because a rookie had a really good
season last year, are we thinkinghe's Matt Stafford's number one? Well,
why are we so sure about that? Well, I don't, I don't,
I never. I don't see Pookaas number one. Anyway, Well,

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Cooper Cup is there, most peopledo though he's going to the top
of the second round. Well,most people are not savvy in the fantasy
football arts. I'm not saying thatwe are either, But when you have
a guy like Cooper Cupplein's been there, that's your number one guy. I
don't care how old he is,I don't care how hard he gets.
Poku Naku play had a great seasonlast year, right, it came out
of nowhere. Nobody expected it fromthe kid. And if we're talking like

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an eight point difference, you knowhe get he goes from thirty eight points
to twenty two points. I'm stilltaking twenty two points from my wide receiver,
right, So I guess if we'retalking, it sounds a little worse
when you're going from twenty to twelve, right, Twelve is a shit number.
You don't want twelve points out ofyour out of your receiver, right,

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But you know it's it's it's asophomore season. Now, it's you
know, it's a tough it's atough gauge for anybody in their sophomore season,
right, Like look at guys thatlook at running backs that have come
out and played really well their firstseason, and then the next year you're
like, oh wow, this guy'sgonna go really high and does nothing.
Prime example is Jesus Christ. Hedidn't in the league. No, he

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didn't. Not your Harris had agreat rookie year. You know, he
was solid. He also had abetter quarterback, and I understand that,
but from year one to year twohis stats were drastically lower than the year
two. And maybe you blame quarterbackplay. But you know, now you're
getting, now you're having. Nowyou have pretty much the same offense.
So maybe it's a little different forPokah. But you know, as everybody

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always says, you get that gamefilm on a guy, we know how
to we know how to handle him. Now it's like, all right,
well, so the sophomore year forfor Pukah is really going to be all
right, this guy's gonna be goodin this league. Yeah, I think
we're all agreeing to say, like, just pump the brakes a little on
Pooka. Yeah, I mean,I'm not drafting him in the first round

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or the second round. Then you'renot drafting him like as we're going,
right, And if people want totake him, you know, that's fine.
I'll gladly take you know, somebodyelse in the third round or fourth
round. Even I'll tell you I'mmore comfortable I think taking Marvin Harrison than
Pooka right now, But all right, so are you you're more comfortable taking

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Harrison over I think in the samespot that he's going in drafts, So
you're saying high second No, maybe, I mean I didn't do my draft
my rankings yet, our rankings willbe in a month or so, but
like sure, just thinking about wherethey're all going, I mean, I
mean here, here's in the topof my head. I mean I'm not,
I don't I'm not. I don'tgot a draft here, but right

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in the top of the second round, you're getting Pooka, you're getting You're
gonna Pooko, you're getting Harrison,You're getting Davante Adams, you're getting Garrett
Wilson. Where's DeVonta Smith going later? Third round? I'm much I'm much
happier taking DeVonta Smith over. Yeah, the second round. I think at
all those guys, I just said, Pooka's probably the worst one, or

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Garrett Wilson's the worst one. ButGarrett Wilson had a great season with Zach
Wilson, So you know, likethat's what I'm saying. So like we
was gonna have a better season withhealthy Aaron Rodgers because he did his ayahuasca
shit and his chillies. I'm sorry, Aaron Rodgers want a chime in?

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Well, let's move on to thereigning, defending conquering NFC champions of the
San Francisco forty Niners. Their offseason great here by bleacher Report was a
C plus interesting. So their keyadditions are to Fondre Campbell, Joshua Dobbs,

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which I didn't even know, JordanElliott from the Buffalo Bills, Leonard
Floyd, Ezekiel Turner, Yacht Tour, Gross Matos defensive lineman, cornerback rock
Ya Sin sounds like a rap name, and then maybe it is cornerback Isaac

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ye Dam. But uh, Ithink they had a couple of big losses.
What do you got there as losses? Adam? Did you make it?
Uh? Yeah, we got EricArmstead and that's that's a loss.
That's a big one linebacker or inBurks, QB. Sam Darnold's the loss

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sure clean Cleveland, Oh my god, Cleveland, Farrell A Brand, Randy
Gregory, javon Kinlaw, Ray McLeod, Guard, Matt Pryor, and Chase
Young. So losing Chase Young,Eric Armstead, Randy Gregory, javon Kinlaw,

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those are some big fucking names onthe defensive line. Right, those
are some very big names of thedefensive line, and there's no guarantee they
walk out of this season with orthey walk into the season with Brandon.
I yeah, yeah, I justsaw a headline today. I was watching
ESPN and it said something that hesaid that, oh, the Niners don't

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want me back. Okay, buddy, they have a good one two punch
with Floyd and Bosa though, SoI mean, that's sure do they?
Because Floyd was was pretty much anobody because he got he's gotten older,
and then Bills revived his career andmaybe he doesn't settle right in the system,
or maybe he does. I mean, they couldn't get they couldn't get

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Chase Young to be good. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,
I know the Bills are gonna missLeonard Floyd, but I just I
just want I feel like the Bill'ssystem is what made Leonard Floyd. I
mean, the guy was was wasa backup defensive end. How old is
he? Thirty three, thirty four? You know what I mean? Like,

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yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, Floyd's older, So
that's what I mean. So,like it does sound like a good one
two punch, But I don't know, they couldn't get it out of Chase
Young. Who may maybe it's ChaseYoung. Maybe Chase Young is just trash.
But it's also losing Eric Armstead andJavon Kindler. That's a lot of

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depth. Is thirty thirty one?Okay, so we were a little older,
but September September eighth, nineteen ninetytwo, So I don't know.
It's it's interesting. Obviously this isthe uh, this is the class of
the division. And even if theylose Brandon Auk, there's still the class

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of the division. Division. Thenyou have to worry about Ricky Piersoll then
as fantasy football, but draft allthese guys. You know, Party is
going to be a top ten quarterback, Christian's probably gonna be the number one
pick. You know, Iyuk andDebo are gonna go. I don't know
by the third round they'll be gone. And and oh yeah, a little

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interesting because a lot of like alot of a lot of pre like you
know things I see on Kittle,like he's people are drafting him as like
the sixth tight end, like that'sgreat value. Get Yeah, getting Kittle
is like the not second tight end. Gettinghim is like the sixth or seventh.
I think great value for Kittle forsure, definitely. I mean,

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Kittle is man, He's made ofglass. He's gonna miss game. It
happens. It happens every year.I don't think he's split a full season
he's been in the league. Butwhat he plays, he's good. So
to get him as the sixth tightend off the board, yeah, I
mean I'm definitely taking that value forsure. But uh, here here is

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something I want to discuss till untilwe move on. Here. The man
has got two things going against himevery year recently, basically including him hisself
the guaranteed first overall pick in fantasyfootball. Usually it gets hurt lately,
right double J did last year,didn't he? Yeah, the three years,

(31:07):
a couple of years with Christian,he got hurt. Uh, you
know, pretty pretty much. SoChristian has that going against him. A
B. He's a mad superstar.Yeah. So, Like I mean,
if he is the number one pick, is it a number one pick in
fantasy that's the curse? Really?Or is it? That's like the thing?

(31:29):
It's kind of His play style doesn'tdo any favors either for his size
and everything. He's got both,you know. So he's had two He's
had two healthy years in a rowafter two awful years injured years. And
I love him, you know,he led me to the championship the year
before. But but like now,after these two massive, massive seasons like

(31:56):
work workload wise and being on thecover of Madden, like I'm a little
scared. Like, yeah, I'ma little scared, Like he's still gonna
probably be my number one. Icannot see myself taking brace Hall above him.
No, I even though as muchas I look him, I don't
know if I could take Jon Robinsonabove him. But I'm afraid that the

(32:17):
dude is gonna get hurt. ButI'm always afraid he's gonna get hurt.
So that doesn't really affect me becauseI kind of like it's just in my
head and I've been lucky the lasttwo years, you know, like where
I've had him, So I meanit is something I wanted to bring up
that he's on the cover of Madden, And like, I know, I
know Josh Allen didn't get hurt lastyear, but didn't he right, didn't

(32:38):
he get hurt? And then likehe just played through it. I guess
with his elbow, with the elbowor the shoulder or whatever it ended up
being. But it's really hard tomake that argument when a guy is number
one in fantasy and his position.So it's like, great, was he

(32:58):
who knows? Because he put upyou know, almost five hundred points in
fantasy. No, it's interesting,but he doesn't have the injury history of
you know, of Christian, andthat that's the scary part. So am
I scared? Yes? Am Ipulling the trick? Are you pulling the
trigger? One on one on Christian? I still might If I get the
first overall pick, and Christian McCaffreyhas not been kept by anybody, I'm

(33:22):
taking them first overall. Yeah,I don't care. You have to Who
else are you gonna take? Ceedee? Lamb? You I don't even know
if they're gonna have Dak Prescott.I mean some people would say Lamb.
Some people would say, uh,you can say Lamb. You can say
to say Tyree, you can sayyou know, even JJ again, who
knows? But Jay, who areyou taking first overall? Right now?

(33:45):
If I had to say, andright now, probably Christian? Yeah I'm
still there too, But you know, just a little scary. All right,
let's move on to the Seattle Seahawks. Jay, tell me about their
key additions. By the way,Seahawks are a grade of C for this.

(34:05):
Yes, linebacker Jerome Baker, linebackerformer Buffalo Bill Tyrel Dodson, uh
tackle George Fant, Nick Harrison,Johnson Hankins, Rashawn Jenkins, and Lincoln
Tomlinson. Okay, and Adam,let's hear about their losses. Key losses.
We got whoa Jordan Brooks, DevinBush, tight end Will Disley,

(34:31):
Mario Edwards, QB Drew Locke,and linebacker Bobby Wagner. I mean,
obviously Wagner is huge. Yeah,but by the way, head coach too,
yeah, and head coach yeah yeah, and Pete Carrolls. Let go.
Now, they got Mike McDonald,not Mike McDaniel, not Josh McDaniels,

(34:54):
Mike McDonald. That's so confusing.Yes, I don't think they're that
good. And I think Gino wasa figment of our imagination. He came
back down to earth last year.I think they're running backs though. I
think Gino is a fine spot starter. I played Gino one week when I

(35:15):
when I was in New York,City. It was a Monday night football.
I believe it was Seattle and Dallas, and those guys were just firing
touchdowns back and forth. So Ginowill have his moments. I don't think
you walk in with Gino as astarter. I remember that game. Yeah,
those guys were firing. Man.I think Jay had DK metcalf go
get what three touchdowns that game?Yeah? I think so. So it's

(35:36):
there. He has great weapons.I mean DK, I still love DK.
Is is a great wide receiver too. Lockett seems to be taking a
step down every year. Yep,so is it time? Lockett is one
of the Lockett is one of thoseguys that will He's a flash guy.
He's gonna get you ten points orhe's gonna get you twenty five points.

(35:58):
Yeah. And the thing that sucksabout Tyler Lockett is he's not a big
catch guy. He's a long catchguy. Like he's gonna he's gonna get
a pass down the field for youknow, forty to fifty sixty yards for
a touchdown. But he's gonna havethree catches for seventy five yards and a
touchdown, right, Whereas DK ismore of the possession guy. So you're

(36:20):
gonna get seven eight nine catches inthe touchdown and the touchdown. But then
you're gonna get maybe sixty seventy yardsfrom him too, right, So but
they I mean, they both havepotential to be big players. But yeah,
I agree with the wide receiver too. And then I mean Lockett's a
good flex guy. Now, obviouslywe're all saying DK is the one to
go for. But do any areany of you taking j S M.

(36:43):
Jackson Smith jigbaw over loss? AndI think I'm there. Listen, Yeah,
I had I had jazz N onone of my fantasy teams and he
played very well towards the end ofthe season. You know this is his
I believe this is his sophomore yearnow, right, So again it's that

(37:04):
sophomore receiver. Is he gonna takethe next step? Well, you still
have d K and you still haveTyler Lockett is your one and two guys.
Maybe who knows what what Mike McDonaldis gonna do here if they're if
they're gonna if he didn't know hedid have a farm dad joke. Oh
yeah, we're canceled. So jsN for me is still a risk and

(37:35):
solely and It's not because he wasn'tplaying great, because he was, but
it's it's more that sophomore year ishe gonna be it's can he move up
to be the number two? Canhe be a great slock guy? What
is the new coach gonna do withthis offense? Yeah? Ye, I
oh well I think you know,with Lockett being like he could be non

(37:57):
existent for weeks on and so Ithink gets worse it's gone with jas On.
Yeah, Adam, we'll rank themthen where where is where are those
three going? I mean DK,you're probably yeah, so d K's first,
But who's second? For you?Uh? I'm still taking Lockett only
because he's more established, he's beenthere, So I'm taking DK, I'm

(38:21):
taking Lockett, and then if anything, I'm taking JSN after not touching their
tight end because I don't even knowwho the fuck it is I think,
and maybe yeah, yeah, andthat's fine. You know, we've got
to have a little controversy on thechannel. So now, by the way,
Adam doesn't like rookies and apparently hedoesn't like second year players. Know
that's not always true. I didnot say I didn't like them. I

(38:45):
said you have to be weary ofthem because it's a sophomore year man's fact.
For Adam to like you, youneed to have your A I A
A r P card like me andj. Yes, it's just proven fact
that you know, you very rarelydo you get a guy that explodes,
you know, two years in arow. Okay, very very true.

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All right, we're gonna move onto the AFC West, and what better
place to start with Super Bowl Championsof the World and the Kansas City Chefs.
And I know they're the chefs,they're the chiefs. They got a

(39:27):
C plus. Well, that's interesting, they had a C plus. I
thought they did better than C plus. I do like what they did.
Okay, so they're big bringing isThey brought in Hollywood Mark He's Brown,
and they drafted Xavier Worthy. Butnow they got a number one in Mark
Heath Brown and a number seven andin uh, save You're Worthy. They

(39:50):
drafted big IRV Smith. IRV Smithall the potential in the world, can
never put it together. But nowhe's on an Andy Smith, Andy Smith,
Andy Reid team. So obviously he'snot gonna help play Travis Kelsey.
He's just a name to monitor andthen and it's so, and now we
know it's over for Patrick Mahomes becausethey signed Carson Wentz. So here's my
thing with IRV Smith. I likeIrv Smith. I think he's got potential.

(40:16):
But the Chiefs had three tight endsthat all got involved in games.
And I don't know if you seethis, but still on a team.
So yep, you're right, it'sjust someone to monitor, not drafted or
not draftable. I mean, don'teven bo I wouldn't even bother. No,

(40:39):
he's only going to become You're lookingfor a Kelsey injury. That's bad,
right, Yeah, Obviously Kelsey's goingto be the number one or two
tight end. And I'm perfectly stillcomfortable with him there. Patrick Mahomes,
though, I mean you guys werehigh higher on him last year than me.
I turned out to be right asof last year. So where are

(41:02):
we? Where are this year?Where do you guys feel, off the
top of your head, where PatrickMahomes is this year? Because for me,
I'm still putting down it like fiveor six. Yeah, i'd probably
agree with that, Yeah, probablyaround that. Yeah, I mean you're
putting Allen, You're putting hurts,you know, I mean there's and then

(41:22):
and then he could be there atthree. But you know, I'm putting
the I'm putting the reigning MVP LamarJackson above him. What about Burrow?
You know, there's so maybe he'sat five, you know, four or
five for me when I do myrankings. But like, I'm also big
on Anthony Richardson, so who knows. I mean, Anthony Richardson could sneak
above him just because of his running. But so we you know, rankings

(41:45):
are coming down the line, butnone of us are saying he's a one
or two, right, Yeah,I think we're all pretty much taking Josh
or Hurts above him. Yeah,I mean I think you're probably taking I
mean you're definitely taking Josh, You'redefinitely taking Hurt. I mean, now
you're probably taking Lamar. But it'sMahomes man. We know what he can

(42:10):
do. Yeah, by the way, against mahomes Man, I'm taking Mahomes
over Burrow. I I will,Yeah, I would take it. I
would definitely do that. If we'retalking Burrow Mahomes I'm taking Mahomes for sure.
Some people might not, but Iam, especially because no, just
the borough stands in general, youknow, like guy has been hurt every

(42:34):
year, but one year, likewe're not talking about them though, So
I mean, there is safety inthere is safety in mahomes to an extent.
But he's not going to be yournumber one or two. And Pacheco,
like Pacheco's there. He's not sexy, but he's fine. You could
do worse. But I don't lovehim. I'm probably gonna have him lower

(42:55):
in my rankings than most people becausehe's just not sex checko. Yeah,
he runs like a freaking wild man, though it's less sexy than Joe Mixon.
Jay, how is that possible?Are you that's wird? Are you
telling me that you would take JoeMixon over Isaiah Pacheco. I was I
was referring to as like Joe Mixonon the Bengals one but like Joe Mixing

(43:22):
on the Texans. No, probablynot, because I mean, but Joe
Mixon has been a top six runningback every fucking year, so who should
say he's not gonna do it again? Yeah, he was exactly six last
year. Pacheco one of the Banglesfor being boring. And then I feel
like even Pacheco's less sexier. So, like I said, I don't have
my numbers in front of me,you know my rankings yet or anything.

(43:44):
But I just feel like I'm gonnabe lower on Pacheco, like I'm gonna
have him, Like I think he'sgoing to mock drafts, like in the
end of the second round. There'sno way, there's no way I would
be excited at starting my draft tosay, with Tyreek Hill and then Pat
Checko. I just wouldn't. Iwouldn't be. Yeah, I just could.

(44:05):
I would not be excited. Solike, so maybe he's more for
me. I'm definitely not excited totake Checko as my running back one,
yeah, exactly. I think asmy running back too. That's a different
story. Yeah, but there's quantificationfor that. What I mean by that
is like you saying it, sosaying the same thing, like me taking

(44:30):
uh, Tyreek Hill and then andthen Pa Checko in the beginning of the
late second round. It's the samekin of you taking Christian McCaffrey and then
Pat Checko in the second round.He's not a second round pick to me,
but maybe you want to take him, and like, are you happy
with taking check in the third round? Like we're drop in one round same

(44:52):
time? Maybe maybe It just dependson you know, I haven't done my
rankings yet. When I just thinkof a checko, I don't get excited.
I don't want him on my team. I don't like not want him
on my team. If that makessense, you know what I mean.
Like I don't like have disregard forthe kid, but like I don't sit
there and think, oh, Ibetter fucking nail Isaiah Pacheco at the two

(45:15):
or three turn, Like, no, I'll probably he'll probably not be on
it. If he's going to twothree turn, he's not gonna be on
any of my teams. Like it'sjust too much of a reach. But
I mean he's gonna get the touchdownsand stuff. So but the big thing
we need to talk about to theirreceivers. It's a messy situation with Rashie
Rice, bringing in Xavier Worthy andbringing in Hollywood Brown. So Jay,

(45:37):
top of your head, rank thosethree receivers between Rice, Xavier and Brown.
What's what's up? Dog? Ohboy? I mean probably probably Brown.

(46:00):
And then you said Brown. Ijust want to that's not what I
think about Brown. But it justkind of made sense. Yeah, I
don't know. We don't even knowif Rice is going to be there.
So okay, how about this Riceplays the whole season, which is not
going to happen Brown, It's BrownRice Worthy. Yeah, if you're going

(46:21):
in that, Yeah, the numberone Rice is going to be their number
two and Worthy might not even play. So is that the same? If
Rice doesn't get suspended, If Ricegets suspended, if he does what I'm
saying, if Rice plays seventeen games, right, if he doesn't, yeah,
if he if he does play sevenKing games, he's going to be

(46:44):
You're still going that's what I yea, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah. If Rice gets suspended,which you should, Ah, well,
I me mean him and like fourother Kansas City Chiefs have all gotten
and off off field fucking troubled sofar in the last like two months.
So and I think they're gonna winthe division. But you know, we'll

(47:09):
talk about the other teams here.Uh, they're gonna win the division.
Spiler alert. Moving on to theloss Vegas Raiders chasm. If for all
you don't know, this is mysecond team. I'm a Bills fan.
Raiders are always my second team.They have their key additions, Christian Wilkins

(47:30):
Gardner, Minshew the President of theUnited States, Alexander Madison, Harrison Brian.
I didn't even know they brought inHarrison Bryan. Oh that's fucking wild.
And we'll explain in a minute.Christian Wilkins a huge signing for them.
Gardner Minshew's a huge signing for thembecause if Ar is not ready or
get Hurts again, that's great GardnerMinshew. Guys is better than Jimmy Garoppolo.

(47:51):
Right, yeah, so they upgradeit. So Adam once't you tell
me about what they lost? Ohthe key losses. Josh Jacobs a big
one there, Greg Van Routin,Uh, Jermaine, what did you do
it? Who? Jermaine? Youwhatever? That fuck? That guy's name

(48:12):
is emmic Robertson, Belile Nichols,Austin Hooper, and Jerry Tiller. Ye,
so my buddy was dancing in thedoorway. Oh you're talking. So
they actually got a B plus fortheir offseason, and I get it because
you know, Christian Wilkins is ahuge signing, one of the best interior
defensive linemen in the league. GardnerMinch's a huge upgrade. Gardner Winch's a

(48:37):
huge upgrade over Jimmy g and he'sa perfect Gardner Minshew is the best backup
quarterback in the league. Like,look what he did with Ar last year.
I was just saying that I mentionedAr, you know what I mean,
but like I was saying it asa past ten. So he came
in for Ar, and you knowthat team was like I don't remember their
exact record, but they were likefive hundred with him and Gardner Minchu.

(49:00):
You're right he might start over AidanO'Connell and the President of the United States
Alexander Madison, I mean with what'shis name, z Amir White, Like,
I don't know, that seems messy. Sure, yeah, had good
games, you know, came inin relief of Josh Jacobs and and people

(49:20):
were starting to pick him up offfor your free agent lists and waiver wires
and all that kind of stuff.And but I mean, losing Josh Jacobs,
you're downgrading with Alexander Madison, Ohfor sure. What's funny too,
is like you lose one of thebest running backs, but your remaining team
needs and it doesn't even mention arunning back like Alexander Madison is going to
make up for losing one of thebest running backs in the league. That's

(49:44):
kind of process too. And ZamirWhite, you know, but remember there's
addition by subtraction of Josh McDaniel's beinggone, so at Daniel Pears had those
guys raring to go towards the endof the season. So talking about their
assets, if gard Minshew ends upbeing the starter, he's not a starter,
but plug him in for injuries.Those two running backs, I think

(50:07):
Zamir White is the one you lookfor. Zamir White is your perfect situation
of a zero r B guy.Uh, kind of like Rashad White was
last year. You know, RashadWhite went in like a six or seventh
round. He was I mean,he finished top ten or something. So
I think there's a chance, youknow, Zamir White could play really well
just because he has that job tohimself. Madison isn't a threat, And

(50:31):
that's kind of that was kind ofwhat I was saying, Like you downgraded
so much and point you don't evenmention it as a remaining team need I
don't know, Yeah, he couldbe well and then and then receiver wise,
they have obviously Devonte Adams, who'sthe stud. But you're getting old,
getting on the down side. I'mdrawing a blank. What's the receivers

(50:53):
name Mayers, Jacobe Myles, greatgreat slock guy. And then they have
two awesome tight ends Baby Gronk andthey drafted right. So you know,
you know, I was reading thisarticle today that how how to the guy?
This guy believes two tight end setsare making a comeback in the NFL.

(51:15):
And they you know, they mentionedthe Raiders with Baby Gronk and and
him, but think about the Billswith Kincaid and Knox, think about the
think about the Packers with Croft andand Muskgrave. They run those guys out
there a lot. So he itwas this one football annuals analyst seeing that

(51:37):
like two tight end sets are startingto make a comeback with all these newer
athletic tight ends. So something interestingto keep an eye out in the future
of the NFL. But when itcomes to those two tight ends, you're
drafting Boers. I mean, youwho cares about Michael Mayer like good,
he's fine, But Bowers is likean incredible prospect and you're not drafting him

(51:59):
as you're not drafted him in thetop eight picks. He's probably gonna be
like your tenth eleven, twelfth tightend and by that point you're shooting.
You're shooting in the air anyway.So I mean you, I don't.
You can't take you can't take myMichael Mayer's over Rock Bowers. No,

(52:21):
you can't. You just you justcan't. And I do agree with you
that, you know, the teamsare trying to get back to that too
tight end thing, and I meantyou hate to mention it, but the
Patriots did it for years and itworked yep, very very well. And
then one of them killed a guy. Yeah he killed the guy. Maybe
two guys, that's true, anda twelve technically if you think about it,

(52:45):
Oh too soon, Oh boy boy. Hopefully his wife's not gonna come
after us. Wait a minute,Wait a minute, wait for it.
Cancel for Ansel's definitely canceled. Yeah, for sure. No, But I

(53:05):
mean I love to tight end set, man, I mean, yeah,
it was. It was powerful backin the day, and hopefully we see
it again. But I don't.I don't know Michael Mayers and is a
good start. Hell yeah. Soas much as I like the Raiders and
stuff, I just I just don'tsee them. They don't have the quarterback

(53:28):
as much as we make fun ofDerek Carr, he's better than anything they
got right now. If they wouldhave still had him, yeah, I
would have been more excited if theystill had him, but they don't.
They don't have Josh Jacobs anymore.Davante Adams is still great, but it
seems like his he's starting to fadea little bit of being like fine,
fine, fine, fine, incredible, fine, fine fine, you know,
so like that's where I am onthem. The only person I'd be

(53:51):
excited with other than Adams. Imean, I'd be excited for some mere
white and just to keep your eyeballon Bowers, right, And that's it
for me. Sure, So allright, we're moving to your second favorite
team. Yep, which one isit? It's gonna be, this isn't
and this is a team. Andthat's why I'm moving on in because this
is way more interesting. That's fine, this is way more interesting. All

(54:13):
I was gonna say is I agreewith you. Okay, So their biggest
without without a without a shadow doubt, is the head coach, Jim Harbaugh.
Major upgrade over Brandon Staley. Jesus, I don't know what Brandon Staley's
problem was but man, he can'tcoach. This is the problem. Did

(54:34):
he fuck that up? He wasgarbage defensive court. I hate defensive head
coaches by but jarbas One. ButHarbaugh is different. You know. Harbaugh
has got like success even though Harboris like a defensive he has success in
the league and he's a defensive headcoach. But he's a fucking former quarterback.
Like this is different, you know. So all right, Jay,

(54:58):
what did your boys do? What? What is some of their key editions?
Key editions? Running back Gus Edwards, Hayden Hurst, center, Bradley
Boseman, linebacker Denzel Perryman, CBChristian Fulton and Titan will Disley. Him
bringing in two tight ends and GusEdwards a big back. Guys, he

(55:22):
is changing the culture of this teamalready. Gus Edwards is probably gonna play
like two games, right, butif you just look at that, he
is building a running team. Whatdid they take in the first round in
offensive lineman? Like it's it's turningby the way. Hayden Hurst is a
guy I've always liked and him beingthere and Chargers they've always needed a tight

(55:43):
end guy and now they got him. So he's someone I'm definitely excited on
but Adam, I don't think whatthey added gains to what they lost.
Oh my god, No, noteven close what they lost. Oh my
god, he losses running back AustinEckler. Dave's boy, he's listening.
His favorite running back in the league, uh Keenan Allen Chazz's favorite wide receiver

(56:06):
in the league. One of them, Mike Williams, linebacker, Kenneth Murray,
Eric Kendricks, Will Klap, AustinJohnson and type end Gerald ed So
I think going from Everett to HaydenHurs it's equal. I mean I think
I think he's a little bit,but ever it was fine. You can't

(56:30):
replace those receivers, and as muchas we give a Ship, you can't
replace that running back. I mean, he was ship last year, but
he still was productive catching the balland everything. You cannot put Gus Edwards.
And by the way, it didn'tmention they also signed uh JK.
Devon. I don't know why theybecause it was probably made before because he

(56:51):
was a late signing. You can'treplace, you cannot replace Austin Eckler like
that. So like to me,they're building this team up to power the
ball with Gus Edwards and two tightends. I mean Quintin Johnston, the
slot guy of Ladd mcconkee. Theydrafted great fit, but he's not like
a burner guy. So I thinkyou're taking the verticality out of this offense.

(57:15):
Their current starting offense from this yearto last year is a major down
grade. So currently, if everythingstays the way it is, it's Herbert,
Gus Edwards. By the way,Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins both
have injuries right now, Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnson, Ladd mcconkly and Will

(57:37):
Disley, So I still think thatHayden Hurst is going to be their starter.
But like, yeah, you're right, it's a major downgrade and it's
going to be a running team becauselike it's and we still love we still
love Herbert here he is not heI'm telling you right now, he's not
a top ten fantasy quarterback for meperiod. He's not not with these weapons

(58:00):
the team that he has. Now, I agree with that, Yeah,
you can't. I don't think he'sgonna be as bad as like twenty,
but he's probably about fifteen in myrankings off the top of my head.
Yeah, I was thinking more likethirteen. Yeah. Yeah, he's tough
and like not only do we talkabout Jim Harbor being the head coach,
guys, their offensive coordinators, GregRoman. What is he known for?

(58:23):
Right? Pounding the ball? Runningthe ball? Yeah? Guess what two
running backs that he had in theGreg Roman offense in Baltimore. Yeah.
Oh, by the way, theygotta B minus for their offseason. Yeah,
I mean it's probably because they freedup thirty million dollars in cap for

(58:44):
you are right they say they did. I do like their additions. Paraman's
great, Hurst is great. Edwardsis a good addition, especially for that
team if he stays healthy. Ididn't hate but Edwards, man, I
mean, yeah, he's a greatdiff team. I actually had to start
him in one of my leagues becauseI traded away all my starters for draft

(59:07):
picks for next year because I wasI was in I was in dead last
I think week like nine. Iwas like, there's no way I could
come back. So I just unloadedeverything and I had Gus Edwards. It
was pretty such. I actually endedup winning like four games pretty good last

(59:30):
year. So we got one leftteam to talk about they're so boring that
we missed them. We skipped them. We got to go back up.
We actually, yeah, wait togo Chess. It's the Denver Broncos.
Denver Broncos actually forgot about them too, so they're there. Big additions Cody
Barton linebacker, Josh Reynolds receiver whoalways finds his way up team. Uh,

(59:52):
Calvin Throckmorton. That's a name.I like that name, Calvin Throckmorton,
safety Brandon Joan, and defensive tackleMalcolm Roach. But Adam, what
are their losses? Russell Westbrook Wilson, mister Big Booty, Jerry Judy,

(01:00:15):
Lloyd Custenberry the third another great name, absolutely Justin Simmons, Josie Jewell,
Jonathan Harris, and tight end ChrisManherd. So just losing Justin Simmons is
enormous. Did they end up resigninghim though? For some reason in my

(01:00:38):
head, I think they were letme look right now or maybe or he's
not signed, he's not on thechart, he's not signed yet. Okay,
he's maybe they were just talking tohim, but he was. He's
one of the best safeties in theleague. Losing Russell Wilson, you know,
as much as we make fun ofhim. He played pretty well last
year, so you had a goodyear. It's a it's a downgrade and

(01:01:04):
they're still pay But bow Knicks,I mean, that's your guy, know,
Bo Knicks and Troy Franklin and uh, Courtland Sutton and guys. We
forget about one player, Sean Payton. I'm gonna play call Sean Payton man.
He can throw ship together. He'sgot a second year now, he's
starting to get his players. WhatI'm gonna say about them, And don't

(01:01:28):
forget they have they have Davonte Williams. Uh, they have Greg Dulciic.
It's not like they're in the depthsof despair. Sean Payton has done well
with a lot worse talent. Andwe even said on the on the AFC
Show that you know, we cansee the similarities of bow Knicks and Drew

(01:01:50):
Brees. It's not that far fetchthat he could be very good. So
I think this team can. Ithink if anyone can, like surprisingly make
the playoffs out of all the teamswe talked about, it's this team.
As awful as they are. Imean, I'm not saying it, but
they would be the team yeah,I agree, And it's really just based

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on Sean Payton and what he cando with developing a young quarterback. And
he know what he can do withyoung quarterbacks. He did wonders with young
Drew Brees, right, and theyended up winning a Super Bowl in two
thousand and nine. A little controversywith with Peyton and they're thrown in the

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mix, but that didn't stop frombeing a great coach, right. I
mean, if anybody could do it, it's him. He's a fantastic head
coach. So I would I wouldsay the Broncos are definitely a sleeper team
this year that you can that youcan look out for, and they yeah,

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I mean where? And that's thatleaves the question two for fantasy owners,
like where where do you draft Gordon'sSun? Where do you draft Davonte
Williams? That that was gonna bemy question. Javonte Williams. Now,
he's somebody that I have on ourFantasy Football Bros. League who I could
keep. I could keep in likethe sixth or seventh round, but I
kind of feel like that's where he'sgoing. Yeah, anyway, like there's

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no excitement for him anymore. AndI think He's almost a sleeper because he's
a very good running back who wascoming back from an ACL tire last year
and took forever to get going,and by the end of the year he
got going a little bit and theseason was over. So like, I
think people are sleeping on Javante abit. But I don't know if he's
even in consideration for me to keepin like the six or seventh round,

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because you're not going to keep aplayer there because you could hopefully just draft
him there. There's no value there, you know. So I think people
are sleeping on Javonte. I thinkpeople are sleeping on Greg Doltsch. I
think same same thing. Greg Doltchichcoming off an injury last year or no
injured last year, missed god mostof the season. I think people forgot

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about him a bit. So like, I think he could be prime for
a comeback. And Son, Idon't know, nobody likes Sotton on this
show. No, although I meanwe don't know. We don't even know.
Like the Broncos, Yeah, Imean had ten touchdowns last year,
guys, Cortland Sign had ten touchdownslast year. No, I agree,
and that and that's what I wassaying is is Courtland Sutton is not you

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know, he's not a bad Seaton, No, we but we also don't
know who's going to be their QB. So I mean Nicks or who else?
Did they right now? Wilson?They gotam Bownecks and Zach Wilson and
right now Stedham's the starters. It'sthat they list on the depth. There's

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no yeah, they as number one. Ye, well he's the only one
that right, I don't. Idon't think it's his first year, No,
no, it's not. It's thesecond, I believe. So he's
gonna be like, well, wegotta go in and have a competition.
Well, sure it's gonna be,but one of those other Nick. Well,
as much as we hate Zach Wilson, he's a he's a more talented

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quarterback than Jared Stide. Like it'syou know, still on maybe maybe maybe
he does start, But I don'tknow. I think this is its first
year as a Bronco because last yearwas with the Raiders. Wasn't he the
year before he was with the Iknow that for sure. The year before

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he was with the Raiders, sohe could have been last year. But
but they started they started O'Connell andJimmy g this year, this last.
But maybe you're right, maybe theydid because and if that's the case,
put in Stidham as your number oneis just coach speak for who knows what?

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Yeah, actually, you are right. He was, he was so
and so, and he paid fivegames. He did play five, Okay,
so I was mixing up to twoseasons. So well, so,
uh, pretty safe to say we'reprobably all in ingreeants right that it's gonna
be a repeat winners from both divisions. Yeah, more than likely. Yeah,

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I mean it's hard to bet againstboth the Chiefs and the Niners,
the best, the best quarterbacks andand you know, you know, well,
you know, I mean, Adamlikes to defend Brock Party. But
I mean if I said that,uh Rock Party is not as good as
uh as uh Matt Stafford, hewould be on my side. So well,
I mean, to be to befair, you should on Brock Party

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all year long and said he wastrash. I still don't think he's incredible.
I mean, he's still he's wowedto be a couple of times he
did I give him his flowers whenthey're due, So he did, he
did he did throw some good passes. Uh, couldn't win the big one
though. Unfortunately, Jay, you'retaking pretty er Love. Uh, I

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don't know, cha is gonna askthis because he loves Jordan Love. Yeah,
well now I'm daf but uh,I mean they're basically the same QB.
So I mean it doesn't I don'treally care. I don't have a
preference over. Party has way betterweapons. Yeah, yes, and Love

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had a better season than him lastyear, so like this is he better?
Like they were close, I meanbetter by for one more touchdown than
Perty. I mean, but that'swhat I'm saying. So Party has all
these pro Bowl weapons, Jordan Lovehas what we all well, the forty
have CMC. So they actually havea running game. Green Bay's running was

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kind of last year. But that'sgiven me props for Love that Love now
in his second year, starting couldtake another step forward. He's making these
enough. He made these not knownyou know, talent receivers and everything look
good. So that's what I mean, it's there. There was a perfect

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compearance in Jay, because you're right, it's like they're so different. It's
like Brock Party the seventh round pick, did you guys know, he was
the last pick of the draft.Yeah, Rock Perty Yeah, Okay,
he was the last pick of thedraft. But they're so like where it's
like they're so different and similar whereit's like, Brock Purty, last pick

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of the draft, all Pro Bowlweapons, has a very good season.
Jordan Love first round pick, sitsbehind Aaron Rodgers, come into the season
with all these dogshit weapons we don'teven know of, has a really good
fucking season. So they're like twodichotomies of each other. Sure, check
this out. Jordan Love forty nineyards right, nine yards, thirty two

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touchdowns, eleven interceptions. Rock Purtystats last year and eighty ars, thirty
one touchdowns, eleven interceptions two Pleasea percentage for Perty is sixty nine point
four. Very enough, was sixtyfour point two. Okay, so very
very similar stats. And you're right, ye with Love having lesser weapons than

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Rock Purty did. So, Imean, does having does having better weapons
make you a worse quarterback than havinga quarterback with no weapons? It's an
it's an interesting discussion. They finishedthat similar, you know, with the
difference of weapons. But people werecalling, people were calling you remember Rock

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Party to be in the MVP conversation. But why weren't they calling Jordan Love
because Aaron Rodgers called him and said, don't make it Jordan Love. Yeah,
you're probably right. So I think, like, I think people are
still looking on a level a littlebit. They could take another st up
up right. I don't know they'rebut they're they're interesting. They're they're gonna
be around the rankings for me.So but that's gonna be in a few

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about a month, we'll start hittingour rankings because next week we're gonna go
ahead and do the a f Cand NFC North, so the North.
So we're gonna do the North division. Guys, get ready to speaking of
Jordan Love, We're gonna go tothe North. And uh, this is

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an interesting one. I hope Davemakes it for this one because Dave was
big on Dave was big, big, big on the on the Bengals this
year, and we know he's verysensitive and he holds grudges, and I
wonder if he's still kind of likethe Bengals. Uh, let's Davis.
We haven't talked about the chat ina while. James called brock Party a
game manager, and then Dave saysthat, but he says. The thing

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is, love has a better chanceto improve. He's crapp in the first
quarter. Perty's pretty always love hasmore upside. That's a very good way
to put it, Dave. Iagree, Yep, love has the chance
to be like love has a chanceto be you know, Aaron Rodgers.
Love has a chance to be oneof the best quarterbacks in the league with
whoever. He has that chance.So he has that upside, so very

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nice. Well, that brings itto a close. Boys again, you
have the you reserve the right tochange your change your picks, you know,
for the divisions when we get toour official show. But I don't
think any of us will be probablyprobably not, I'll tell you right now.

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I mean, if I had yeah, if I had to say that,
I think the NFC West probably hasa better chance of changing the number
one than with the Rams. Yeah, the Rams probably. Defense is so
gonna be in Arizona come out ofnowhere with Marvi and healthy Kyler Murray could

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sure I could see Arizona being better. I could see Arizona being better than
the Rams, you know. ButI don't know about the Niners. But
the Niners could all be you know, in slings also, so you never
know, but I could as muchas Yeah, we we had the Rams
make the playoffs last year. Isaid it could be a bit of a
fluke. So if if Kyler Murraycomes out hot, I guess just two

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years ago, didn't there the didn'tthe like Kyler Murray in the in the
Cardinals start like nine and oh orsomething like that, something like that.
Yeah, so like he's got itin him, we give him a hard
time. I got it hard.We give him a hard time because he's
five five and look's call of duty. Yeah, just like us, right,

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yes, but yeah, and thenof course AFC is the Chiefs.
But I mean I said it,I could. I think the Broncos could
surprise people. I'm not calling towin a division, but the Broncos stomped
out the Bills last year. RightWait, so I mean the stomped out
only beat us by like what three? And it was bad coaching, but

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Sean McDermott bad coaching they kind ofgo hand in hand. So but we'll
get to that another time. Allright, Adam, I think you sounded
good. Let us know in thecomments below how Adam sounded today with his
new mic. I think he soundedgood. Mike, Yeah, trying to
something new here. Let me knowin the chet guys if you like my
wallpaper, because it's staying for nowanyway. Jay, thank you for joining

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us, my friend, everybody inthe chat. Yeah, everybody in the
chat, thanks for chatting. We'regonna be doing this Wednesday nights at about
ten o'clock on the Chaz Cast onTwitch. And until then, guys,
we'll see you next time. Peace, belait you, guys, see you.
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