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We have the Fantasy Football Surgeon himselflike a surgeon. Zag's what's up?
Bro? Where you been? Someman? You boys? Miss me?
We didn't miss yea, Yeah,I missed you on on the Let's
Talk and Already podcast too. Ionly missed one though, right, one
too many bro for us. Youknow before us you missed like two or

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three. But yeah, well,well we're going to see what I bring
to this conversation and you decide ifit was weird. He's had three weeks
of prepping. We're not expecting much, Dave, It's all good. What
did I say when you asked mewhat time we're doing? When I asked
what time we're doing those ten minutes, yeah, you were like, I'm

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like nine o'clock today, a littleearly, and for anyone that's going to
be watching the stream, I alwayssay ten o'clock, but we decided to
go early today. It's nine o'clock, so hopefully some people get the notification
and nine thirty, but it isnine thirty. Well, we were chatting,
we had some ship to chat about, and uh, here we are
and we have no viewers on Twitter. I'm hearing myself, Jesus. Background

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is what we were chatting about.Yeah, we were. It's a beautif.
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.So I want to do right now.
Why I got the floor is makesure everybody knows that we're we are
alive on switch. So let mepost that out and then we'll get rolling.
So what are we here to talkabout today? Jay, AFC North

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and NFC North. AFC North andNFC North and those I think I feel
like this is gonna be fun becausethey're such How did you describe the AFC
North and the NFC North there,I would say the best words to describe
this is they're just fucking wild.They're wild cards? Yeah? Right?

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Does that make Does that sound aboutright? Dave? What do you think?
Wild cards? Is that the bestis probably the best way to do
it? Like the wild wild Westof the NFL? Right now, Like
who knows? Who knows what's comingout there? Any one of these teams
could be the top, right andlike who knows? You're right? That's
act? Who knows Detroit was greatlast year? Is that real? Green

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Bay was great last year? Isthat real? Right? Chicago seems like
they're gonna be great this year withtheir the new team? Is that real?
Yeah? Decinely the NFC and thenwho knows about Minnesota? And then
you go on the AFC side,The Bengals are they gonna be Backers,
Joe Burrow gonna be hurt again,the Steelers gonna make the fucking playoffs again.
Yep, No, So I meanit's it's an interesting like, uh,

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you know in the Ravens. Sothe Ravens are they still the class
probably in Cleveland? Are they gonnamake the playoffs again? Like it's such
a like, it's so weird.It's a random it's a random group of
teams that I can't I don't know, Like, it's a random group of
teams that I don't believe anything in. I'm not sold on any of them

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except maybe the Ravens, but we'llget into that more. Yeah, I
don't. I don't think you candiscount the Ravens right now. You can't
tell me that losing Odell beckham ManDerrick Henry is going to make them any
worse. True, very true,But all the other teams like who knows,
But talking about the Baltimore Ravens,Dave, why don't we start with

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the Baltimore Ravens because what the hellam I? Okay, my sound drops
are like froze, Well, okay'tuse the sound drops. Why don't we
start with those Baltimore Ravens because they'rethe first one that come off alphabetically,
so we have them pulled up here. So Jay, why don't you tell
me about all of these key additionsthey have all too Your man crushed Derrick

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Henry and the offensive line Josh Jones. Derrick Henry is such an upgrade over
anything they've had recently. He Imean, think about what think about what
Gus Edwards did in this offense,scored what twelve fourteen touchdowns in this offense
because he's kind of a big,bumbly back and they just brought in one

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of the greatest big backs of alltime. I I mean, I say
this all the time. What theone thing that the Ravens are always missing
is a workhorse running back. They'realways like, when's the last time you're
really excited about a Raven's running back? Like Ray Rice? Maybe Ray Rice?

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Yeah's probably that's about it. Yeah, Like, and then everything after
that has just been like, we'regonna put three like and I use this
term lightly, but we're gonna putthree bums out there and just kind of
figure it out, you know whatI mean? And then all three bums
get hurt for the entire season.Very true, You're not lying on that,
but let me let me let mejust just just coincide something with what

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I'm saying about bringing in the King. All right, So we are going
to go with some of his recentstats. Now, granted, he just
turned thirty years old, but heis a monster, so I'm not holding
it against him. So I'm gonnago. He's been in the league since
twenty sixteen, right, and hereally got cooking in there. Two seasons
he was a backup. Twenty eighteenis where he started cooking. So here

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is his yardage stats from twenty eighteenon oney fifty nine, fifteen hundred and
forty two thousand and twenty seven.He played eight games and had almost one
thousand in eight games fifteen hundred andthirty eight eleven hundred and sixty seven.
It's pretty monstrous. Let's go overthe touchdowns in that time the same time

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frame twelve, sixteen, seventeen,ten, thirteen, and twelve. The
man is so even last year whenhe slowed down a step, he slowed
down a step, he was stillaveraging four point two yards of carry,
scored twelve touchdowns. Is he slowingdown a step it's it's gotta happen,
and it's gonna happen sooner than later. He's got he's so many miles on

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him, but he is a freakof nature. But I mean, listen,
but what's up to Saints Joan Ricoin the chat? But to be
fair to him, now, hedoesn't have to be Derreck Henry of Tennessee
anymore. He doesn't because he hasa quarterback. He has the NFL MVP
at quarterback. I'm just gonna sayreal quick that I do think that there's

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a good possibility that his touchdowns godown, and I know he's gonna slow
down a little bit, But Idon't like, I don't think this is
a disadvantage at all to him.I mean, look at has he ever
had a mobile quarterback before? No, maybe Tannehill's somewhat mobile, But it's
a different it's a different it's awell, Mariota, I mean, it's

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kind of a different beast, right, you got you like, you're gonna
have to respect the fact that Lamarcan just take off, right, So
it's like, is he gonna havemore openings? Are they gonna stack the
box on him? Less knowing thatthey got a spy lamar that, like,
I don't know, I see histouchdowns going down a little bit.
I don't, Dave, I don't. You know why I don't because Gus

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Edwards had twelve touchdowns last year.Gus Edwards is kind of fluky touchdowns though,
right, sure, but Derrick Henryis not fluky. So like that's
why I'm like, I'm not sayingit, Okay, Saint Joe's losing his
mind. That says Henry to theRavens is gross and they're going to be
the team to beat the Chiefs inthe AFC. Don't disagree. I'm not

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against it. So I love him, I know. And he's actually going
later in drafts than I expected.Shut up with the wallpaper slander. This
is ridiculous. Everybody's going later becauseI think Dave's writing has touchdowns are going
to go down, so you're definitelygonna lose points to touchdowns. I don't
want to call twelve touchdowns because that'sa lot to say, but for the

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man to never score less than twelvetouchdowns and for just Gus Edwards to score
twelve touchdowns last year like makes methink it's possible. It really does he
only needs one one to score atouchdown. It's definitely possible. Yeah,
and I'm saying it's a guarantee.I'm saying there's the possibility that the touchdowns
go down. Yeah. But youknow what, you know how much I
love Derrick Henry. Put push himas far back in the draft as you

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want, because it only makes itbetter for me. Go ahead, push
push him even further back, pushhim to the fourth round. Go ahead
and do that. You boys wantto do a sleeper mock draft later,
we could do that. Okay,Yeah, we'll do a sleeper mock draft
later, because in the mock draftthat I saw, he went like the
third round exactly. I think that'sinsane. That's absurd, insane. Honestly,

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I would love to get Derrick Henry'smy RB two in the third round,
right, start off with Christian McCaffreyand get a receiver and then Derrick
Henry like fuck no, forget aboutit. And Saint Joe's saying in the
chat that twelve tds is his floorthis year. I mean, it's a
lot to say, but man,he is he's something. He's something special.

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You guys know, I love him, right, But we do have
to mention, Jay, they didlose a few people, So why don't
you tell us who they lost?Linebacker Patrick Queen, edged Jadeveon Clowney,
Gus Edwards, Gino Stone, Morgan, Moses, John Simpson, Kevin Zelter,

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and Ronald Darby. First of all, did you guys know Ronald Darby
was still in the league? Yes? I did, Okay, I didn't.
Losing Losing Patrick Queen is huge.Losing Clowney hurts. I mean he's
a good pass rusher. Losing KevinZeitler he used to be a great tackle.
I'm not gonna sit here and actlike I know about fucking tackles in
the NFL, you know, SoI can't act like that. James is

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in the chat. What's up,James? So it's I don't know.
They did lose some defensive things,but they still are the Ravens. They're
still gonna have a good defense.Oh and by the way, they have
the NFL MVP and they have DerrickHenry. Now need I say more?
I don't think anybody's doubting you thatthe Ravens are definitely a team to beat.

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So we'll just move on to Dave'sfavorites from last year that let him
down, Dave, the Cincinnati Bengals, you were very high on than last
year and they let you down.We can all admit that. So are
we holding angst towards them? Let'sfind out? So you know, I
can never be mad at Joey dSo you haven't pulled up, Dave,

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Why don't you tell me about theirkey editions. The key additions Tacho,
Trent Brown, the defensive tack andoh my god, defensive tackle, Sheldon
Rankins, safety Von Bell, teMikeseki, safety Gino Stone, and running
back mister Zach Moss. I likewhat they did, to be honest,
Trent Brown's a great tackle for themto add. Adding Sheldon Rankings only bolsters

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their run defense. Von Bell isunderrated. Mike Koseki in this offense,
they need some help at tight end. You know he's been productive before.
And then adding Zach Moss, avery born running back to replaced Joe Mixon
a very boring running back. Tobe quite honest, I think I love
what they did. What do youthink, Jay, Yeah, I think

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it's it's pretty good. I mean, I don't know, they were pretty
bad last year. But Joe Joeyb was hurt. So even though someone
in this podcast said he was goingto be the number one QB, better,
better than Josh Allen is what hesaid? Yes, always hurt man.
What are we to do? Joe? In the chat Saints, Joe

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wants to know, Dave, ifyou are going to take five running backs
to start the draft again this year? Absolutely not. No, that was
a that was a strategy that Iwanted to try and did not pan out
for me. So unn looking attheir additions, they lost Jonah Williams is
good, DJ Reeder, Joe Mixon, Chidobe Owoozy a IRV Smith, Nick
Scott, and Tyler Boyd. Lookinghere their remaining castspe says twenty four million

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dollars. So twenty four millions.Why can't they get a deal with T
Higgins done? But when you dothat, you're gonna have zero money after
that, right, So, andit might not even be just so much
about the money. It could bejust a you know, we're sick of
hearing you bitch situation. We'll getour official predictions later. But obviously,
if the team is healthy, Istill think they can be good and make

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some noise. But as I said, the last two years. I think
they're a bit overrated. Yeah,so maybe people are coming down on my
side of the fence now a little. Still think they'll be a good team.
Joe Burrow's great. Jamar Chase Ithink is I think Jamar Chase is
the best receiver of the NFL.I know JJ gets you know that,
Moniker, but I still think it'sJama that's one and two no matter how

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you look at it, you know. So, I mean, I think
they can get it done. Soit's funny because there's not really a lot
to talk about because there's such aas I said earlier, wildcard, like
we don't know. It all dependson if Joe Coole can be healthy for
one season. For the love ofChrist, can he be healthy for one
season? I mean right now he'smadding one out of four. So it

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all comes down to Burrow, man. I mean, if Burrow stays healthy
the whole season, like the Bengalswill be good. And if he here's
a question, though, does thatmean they're a good team? Dave?
Because the next team we're going totalk about is the Cleveland Browns. They
made the playoffs with their backup quarterbackand their backup running back and the Bengals
just fell apart last year even withBurrow playing. So how is that possible?

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Dave Well, what is the disconnect? I think it's a I think
people are looking at it all wrong. Man. Like last year was a
very fluky year for the for JoeBurrow especially. He gets hurt, Okay,
that's fine, and he comes backand he just does He just never
looked like himself. And I thinkhe has some time. He's got some
time to recover. He had theoffseason to kind of clear his head.

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Whatever. If Joe Burrow comes backand is the quarterback that we think he
is, the Bengals are gonna befine. It's the same argument that I
have with the Bills. It's like, Okay, if Josh Allen goes down,
this season is over. You knowwhat I mean? And this is
the same thing for the for theBengals. If Mitch please get me the
out here, bro listen, JoshAllen is the fucking team who If Allen

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goes down, the Bills are done. If Burrow goes down, the Bengals
are done. I didn't press anything. I didn't even press anything. Why
didn't just do that? Patrick areyou Are you fitting our conversation? Patrick?
He just wants to mention. Okay, if Patrick Mahomes goes down,
the Chiefs are done. It's justone of those teams. Unfortunately, the

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Bengals don't have a great coach either, So I mean, I just been
saying that for three years. Doesn'treally help either, Zach. Saints Joe
wants to know have you been hittingthe gym? Bro? He said,
you look swelly. Appreciate you,Joe, No, I'm not. I'm
just slouching and I'm wearing black becauseI'm getting a little chunky. Well,
let's go one to the next teamwe're going to talk about, and that

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is the Cleveland Browns and Jay,why don't you tell me their key additions?
Uh? Well, Saints Show didn'taddress this guy by the proper name
in chat, but big Booty JerryJudy, that's right, Big boot Bout
Jerry Dudy, Quentin Jefferson, JordanHicks, Deonta Foreman, Devin Bush,
Jameis Winston, and Naim Hines.Now to pair that with their losses of

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Joe Flacco, Anthony Walker, SioneTataki, Harrison Bryant, and Nick Harris,
so you can't deny they they hada great offseason because I mean a
lot of good players added. Bringingin Quentin Jefferson is great on the d
line. Bringing in Jerry Judy toplay the slot is exactly what they needed
from for Mari Cooper. And thenJordan Hicks is a good player and Dante

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Foreman is the perfect replacement if NickChubbs goes down, Like I mean,
he's i mean not perfect, butlike he's just a big, bruising back
and that's what Nick Chubb is.We're assuming that Chubb's even going to be
ready. Yeah, so he'll bearound. He hit himself the first week
of the season, you know whatI mean. But he's old. It
doesn't mean he'll be there week one, but I mean he's someone. And

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we haven't really talked too much aboutfantasy because you know what you're getting out
of those last two teams. Butthat's right to bring this up because this
is an interesting team for fantasy becauseI'll tell you towards the end of the
year. Last year, Marie Cooperwas fucking awesome. He single handedly won
me the second last game of theseason to get to the championship because he

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had like a fifty four point game. Marie Cooper turned it up last year.
Jerry Judy has done nothing in theNFL, but being in this system
where they could Pepper the slot receiver, could be great for him. And
then Nick Chubb is a wildcard becauseyou know what their running backs did.
Okay, but if you guys remembercorrectly at the beginning of last year,
I picked Nick Chubb to win therushing title because this team pounds the ball,

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sock. If Nick Chubbs is healthy, he could still be great.
And I know he's coming off anACLL and that's scary, but he's not
like an explosive back. I don'tknow if it's going to hinder him as
much as people think. It justdepends on when he can play. All
right, Sorry they are Sorry,Joe, You're right, and Joko and
Joko had a great season two,so they're all draftable assets, right.

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I don't know, dude. Forme, this like this team is just
full of question marks. I feellike every position outside of Ndjoku, you're
just like, I don't want tosay you're throwing a dart, but you're
definitely like risking it. You're riskingit for Amari Cooper. I mean,

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why is that a risk? Becauseseriously, you're all depending on de Shaun
Watson. But no, I meanhe did it without Deshaun Watson last year,
right, but it's still a differentguy throwing him the ball, you
know what I mean, Like hehad a different report like you. I
don't know, Like I say thisall the time, why receiver is obviously
going to catch some balls, right, But like it really it really depends

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on like the team overall. Right, So does Nick Chubb come back?
Are they able to run the ballthe way they want to run the ball?
Does de Jan perform the way thatlike they've paid him to perform?
What role does Jerry Judy have here? Like is foreman gonna start splitting?
Like, I don't know, there'sjust a lot of question marks here for
me. I think I think youguys, I think you guys in the

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fantasy community in general sleeping on AmariCooper a bit because and the reason I
say that is these last two yearswith the Browns with shitty, shitty quarterback
player and Joe Flacco or shitty DeshaunWatson have been the best two years of
his career. Would you imagine thatthat's true. Would you think it would
the last two years would the bestyears of this guy's long career. He

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had twelve hundred and fifty yards andeleven hundred and sixty yards in each season,
and he had five and nine touchdownsthe most receiving touchdowns he ever had
with the Browns two years ago.Nine touchdowns the most yards he had in
a season this past year with theBrowns. Okay, well, can you
com like I want you to tryto confidently answer the answer this question.
Amari Cooper this year in Fantasy doeshe does he have more points, the

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same amount of points, or lesspoints than last year? And can you
confidently answer that? Well, letme pull up what kind of points he
did have? So I'm right hereright now. So the wide receivers for
twenty twenty three in PPR. Right, we're gonna go PPR. So let's
see where Amari Cooper is. SoAmari Cooper finish point twenty. So he

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finished with two hundred and twenty sevenFantasy points. That's around. Here's the
people above and below him from eighteenCalvin Ridley, Davante Smith, Marie Cooper,
DK metcalf Nukpkins So He had asmany points as Devonte Davante Smith,
who were high on He had fourpoints, lest than Chris Olave and Deebo

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Samuel That everyone was taken in thesecond round last year. So yeah,
I feel he can repeat it.I do you confidently feel he can repeat
it? I feel he can repeatit because you're not drafting him. No,
I don't think he's getting drafted asthe twentieth wide receiver. But maybe
he is. But he finished twenty. He finished above DK Metcalf, He

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finished above DeAndre Hopkins. He finishedabove Garrett Wilson, folks that's going in
the first round. He finished aboveRashie Rice, George Pickens, Zay Flowers,
Terry McLaurin, Justin Jefferson. Hefinished above Jalen Waddle. So like,
I think people are sleeping on hima little bit. That doesn't mean

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take him in the second round.But I think he's a can't miss.
I mean, I can't miss,like wide receiver two or three could do
way worse than a guy that finishedtwentieth overall last year. I don't know.
I mean, if you're if you'reconfident about it, I'm not saying
he's gonna be a bad wide receiver. I'm just saying I have questions,
you know, Like there was timesas Deshaun Watson came in and just looked

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fucking abysmal, Like he looked fuckingterrible, and if you have to deal
with that for a whole season,like brother guy lived off with David Derek
Carr like he can. There wasthere was a footage of Jshaun Watson where
I'm like, I would probably fuckingput in Derek Carr right now and be
happy about it. He looked abysmal, like I'm not kidding, he looked.

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Yeah, he definitely did look bad. But in these past two years
with and without him, he's hadthe best two seasons of his career.
So I think people are sleeping onhim. That's all I mean. I
thought he was the most interesting.What about en Joe Cool? Are you
guys buying his big season after fiveyears? Last year took him five years
to have that big season. Arewe buying it? No, I'm like
fifty to fifty s shak earlier.I'm gonna go negative, but no,

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I'm not buying it. Yeah,you're always I'm just I mean negative,
Okay, But here here's my dearright, you got in Enjoku last year
on like kind of a steal,you know what I mean. But like
after the year that he had lastyear, you know that you're gonna end,
especially because tight ends so thin,you're gonna get guys that are like
that want to get him, youknow what I mean. Like, if

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you don't get the top three orfour tight ends, people are gonna be
targeting him. I think he's goinglike eighth tight end, and I'm perfectly
okay with that, I really am. Like in my blind rankings, I
haven't done him yet, he's likesix. I mean, I mean,
just just off time. I hadobviously Kelsey Laporta, Mark Andrews right right,
and then you got uh Hawk,but Hawk's hurt for half the year,

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right, So you got, oh, the kid from Arizona McBride your
top four and then what you're gonnago? George Kittle maybe or why not?
And Joku? Are you gonna goDalton Kincaid? Like those are probably
the next you coming off right there? Kyle Pitts like those, I mean,

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there's all question marks about all ofthem. I mean, I mean,
Kyle, but that's not getting crazy. I mean George Kittle's gonna miss
half the season. So right there, George Kittle's gonna miss half the season.
Dalphinking kay, yeah, probably dalthinking Kate above him. Yeah,
Kyle Pitts with a new quarterback.Who knows? You know, David Njoku
won good season out of six,right, It's just like who knows.

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I don't know. I feel likeif I'm drafting my tea that late,
I'm probably gonna take a flyer onHowking Kittle and just grab a bum to
get me through then hope to getHawk by God, I mean here himself
late in the year. Dude,I don't know when he's coming back.
I cam, oh, you worsethan you and Adam putting your face in
fucking uh. Kyle Pitts every yearto be let down. Well Saints Joe's

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calling in the chat because Pitts withcousins give it to me all day.
I mean, I mean, Iknow happen. Kirk's cousins doesn't throw it
to the tight end. T J. Hockinson was garbage show, right,
So yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell
you what if Kyle Pitts doesn't fuckingput it together this year with Kirk Cousins.
I never want to hear that dude'sfucking name again. Fair, very

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fair. I'm with Dave because we'vebeen hearing it fucking for years between you
and Adam, and every year youguys are like, oh, yeah,
he's the best tight end blah blahblah, Oh my god, every year.
I'm right. So guy's gonna befucking forty years old before he turns
in a season. I don't thinkAdam likes him. I like him.
I don't think Adam likes him.Now, you guys always talk about how

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great he's gonna be. He's justtalented motherfucker, just like black Bowers,
right, So I still think he'smore talented than black Bowers, but he's
gone from that shitty system. Butwe'll see. So Jay's the wife around,
because we're about to talk about her. She's probably watching on live stream.
She on livestream. Well, ifthe wife is there, get ready
because we're talking about your team andSaints Joe's calling him Pitts for over one

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k this year. He's gonna beton it, i'd be. I mean,
you can't drafts an entire offense ofSaints players. So I mean,
you're getting You're getting called out,bro, You're getting called out. So
we're talking about we're gonna move onto Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm going a little
faster this one because we went todo uh a mock draft, so I

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think they had an interesting offseason.I'll start with the key losses they've lost.
They lost Kenny Pickett, Dave's favoriteDave draft him in his favorite quarterbacks
of all time? He lost.They lost Deontay Johnson. They lost Mitch
Trubisky, Mitch Please. They lostJames Pierre chrumka Okafora, Damon Arman Watts,
and Miki Walker. But Jay,who did your second favorite team bring

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in uh, your favorite quarterback RussWilson and not the right draft? It's
all messed up today Before I wasrudely interrupted with the wrong dropped, they
also got Justin Fields, Patrick Queen, Dante Jackson, Quez Watkins, Dean

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Lowry, Deshaun Elliott, Van Jefferson, and mccoyle Pruitt. Okay, sorry,
I had to unplug the stream deck. Okay, are we are we
good now? Limit there it is? Yes, So uh, from the
names that you said, I meanRussell Wilson and Justin Fields. You just

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went from the worst quarterback situation toa to a to a fine you know,
liked a lot worse could be.Yeah, listen, say what you
want about Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. If you factor in the salary cap
of what they did in the QBroom, this is fantastic. This is

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this is fantastic. Russell Wilson wasgreat actually comparatively to how he's been.
He was great last year. Ifyou look at the value per dollar,
like, their QB room is prettystacked for for for what they're paying for
it. Well, yeah, becausethey're only given Russ one million because he's

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getting like eighty gazillion million dollars fromhis other team. Well that's the broncos.
I'm not so like, obviously it'sgonna work out for them when you're
only paying them a million dollars becauseidiots. And you still have the chance
that Justin Fields under Russell Wilson couldput it together. I mean he's still

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young, he's only been like threeyears. Still a chance they gave up
on can you Pickett? No problem? But like ken You Pickett was so
garbage. But I think The issuethey have is Jay who's their number two
receiver this year? Van Jefferson probablyis it? It was probably Corrrell Patterson.

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Let me get the du chart.They put him back to Who did
they draft Roman Wilson later? Right, wasn't it? Yeah? I think
I think they're just kind of goinginto yeah. Right now it's Pickens and
Van Jefferson and then Roman Wilson.Interesting. Dave's calling them a sneaky pick

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to make the playoffs this year?Didn't they make it this last year?
Or was it the year before?I didn't say they were a sneaky pick
to make the playoffs? Sorry Joesaid that, Oh did did they make
the playoffs this year? Or wasthat the year? No? We beat
him in the playoffs this year?The Bills didn't they? I think?
So they made the playoffs this pastyear. So I want whatever drugs Saints

(30:29):
show's on tonight. They're from Louisiana, I promise you. Is that all
the AFC North? Uh? Yes? Yes? So is anyone has anyone
taking out the Ravens? Probably probablynot? No, you too, You're

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you're saying the Ravens. Okay,I mean I think the Bengals make it
close, but I just I justthink the addition of Eric Henry's gonna be
too much. That's fucking huge.All right. Well, then we're gonna
go to the NFC North now andwe are going to talk about my favorite

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team to shit on last year,and they shit in my face of the
Detroit Lions. So looking at theiroffseason, they had an A plus grade
here because they did a pretty goodjob. They brought in Marcus Davenport,
Carlton Davis, DJ Reader, ArmikRobertson, and Kevin Zeitler and uh,

(31:30):
ninety of those guys were all defensewhere they needed a lot of help last
year, and they and they draftedsome defense as well. They did lose
CJ. Gardner, Johnson, JonahJackson BENEATHO Jones and Josh Reynolds, but
I feel like they replaced what theylost and got some. They have what
the fourth highest paid quarterback in theleague now and they still have twenty eight

(31:51):
million dollars. Yeah. So whenit comes to the fantasy options, I
really think Gibbs and Montgomery is interestingbecause Gibbs and Montgomery finished similar last year
and everyone's taken Montgomery or Gibbs inlike the first round, and forgetting about
Montgomery. Montgomery was pretty damn goodas well last year, So I think

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Montgomery's a steal later in the draft. Gibbs. Gibbs is tough in the
first round, right because you know, you know there's going to be a
split. But I do, honestly, after last season see it. I
do see it being more of gibbsbackfield now, you know what I mean,
Like it should be more. Itjust should be more of his backfield.
Now, who the fuck knows whatDan Camp was gonna do, but

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I would say, just based onperformance chesa, Gibbs was gonna be shit
ahole last year. I never saysgonna be shit. It really should be
more of like a seventy thirty splitnow, but I said it was going
to be more of of of Montgomery'sbackfield. And guess what, I was
completely right until Montgomery got hurt.And I was completely right because Gibbs didn't
get cooking till like week ten whenwhen Montgomery got hurt, Montgomery was leading

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the league in touchdowns like by weekseven or something. You know, it
was totally what I saw. Andthen and then he got hurt and Gibbs
took off, so but I thinkpeople are overvaluing Gibbs and undervaluing uh Montgomery.
I think they're gonna be end upbeing closer to the finished rankings.
Then people realize people are taking Gibbsas like the fifth running back and Montgomery

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has like the I don't know twentyfifth where they're probably gonna both end up
somewhere in the teams. I think, yeah, you know, really I
do. I said it should bemore of Gibbs backfield. I'm not taking
him in the first round. There'sno way, There's no way I'm using
my first pick on Jamire Gibbs.Just how you taking Jamier Gibbs over like

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sek Kwan and kyn And even thoughI'm afraid of Blake Koram, if you're
afraid of Blake Korm, you shouldbe way more afraid of David Montgomery.
Yeah, exactly, No, andSa Kwan being there, and it's just
yeah, it's a tough sell.But how do we feel obviously, and
Saint Joe's going to take him inthe first round, please do go ahead,

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And obviously we love I'm in RussaintBrown the wild card on this team.
I think slam report. Is stillgonna be a great pick with the
wild card? Is Jamison Williams?Is he gonna do something? I mean,
I don't know they said that.What was that last year? I
think they said until he learns torun routes or block or whatever the fuck
it was, then he wasn't gonnabe used that much. So I'm pretty

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sure on his first pass reception waswhat an eighty yard touchdown? Yes,
kind of shows his explosiveness. Yeah, but it's a one trick pony man
skick very well could be. Areyou know draft Jai Jamison Williams in a
redraft league and feel great about it? Like, no, you shouldn't.
I mean, is he a flyerin a best ball league? Yeah?
Absolutely. But here's the thing withJamison Williams. For the first time in

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his career, this is only histhird season, he's starting for the first
time in his career. There's noquestion marks on him. Meaning his rookie
year, he was coming in offof the ACL tier. His second year
he was coming in suspended, soyou're always questioning on him and like when's
he going to play and blah blahblah. But you don't have that this
year. His numbers were abysmal lastyear. So they were, though I

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guess there's question. It's there.Twenty four receptions, only three hundred and
fifty yards. He was only likefifty percent of catching his targets. I
mean, yikes, I guess thatis the question mark. Yes, good,
Okay, how do we feel aboutJerick Goff? Because he is very
controversial and he was way better lastyear than any of us wanted to admit.

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Uh, he finished as the seventhbest fantasy quarterback last year. Is
he doing it again? I haven'tdone my rankings yet in a twelve man
league. He's probably a starting quarterback. Yeah, I would agree. I
don't know if he's gonna break thetop ten again, but he definitely has
a chance. But well, thewhat I want to say is the last

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two years he's finished tenth and thenseventh. So he got better this year.
So he was a top down theyear before and then he was seventh
this year. So here's the topten rankings from last year. Just or
we'll do twelve the top twelve rankings. To remind everybody from last year,

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Number twelve was c J. Stroud, number or sorry, Number twelve was
Sam Howell. Number eleven was c. J. Stroud, Number ten was
Baker Mayfield. Number nine was Tua, Number eight was Patrick Mahomes. Number
seven was Jared Goff. He hada better season Jared players that Jared Goff
had better seasons than fantasy football wise, Patrick Mahomes, Tua, c J.

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Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert. I know there's
injuries here and stuff, but comeon, man, I think the guy
deserves a little respect put on hisname. I mean, I think,
definitely we are, but yeah,I don't know. He's earned a little
respect. And he got his bigcontract so obviously the team believes in him
too. So and if their defensedidn't get any better, every game is

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gonna be a fucking shootout. Soand he plays, he plays eight home
games in a dome, and Minnesotaplays in the dome, right, so
that's another game two games that hehas, so he's got at least ten
games in a dome, if notmore. And he's always a much better
home quarterback than road. So Ithink he needs a little respect put on

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his name. So we won't wewon't pick the division winners till the end.
But obviously since they won it,they need to be kept in mind.
But the team that was just behindhim, to surprise everybody, was
the Green Bay Packers, and Ithink they had a pretty good offseason.
They brought in Josh Jacobs, GregJoseph which they needed some kicker help,

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and Xavier McKinney. What did theylose Jay David Bakiari who hasn't played in
like seventeen years. Anyway, SoDevandre Campbell, Aaron Jones, Johnson Owens,
John Runyon, and Darnell Savage.They upgraded. I'm sorry Josh Jacobs

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over Aaron Jones. Is an upgrade? Is anyone gonna argue that? No?
Definitely, are you an upgrade?They got nothing? You were quiet
there, so you scared me fora second. No, Like, I
love them, So they upgraded that. Jordan Love had a breakout season.
He was great. He was atop what was he top five or six?
He finished five last year? IfJordan Love was a top five quarterback

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last year with no with no weapons, right, So he made all these
teams look good. He made allthese players look good. He's bringing in
a bona fide beast of a runningback. And I think he's gonna just
take off. I mean, whycan't he have it just as good as
a season? Why can't he bebetter? So he's only second year starting.

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I love Jordan I mean I don'tthink he's gonna be in my top
five rankings, you know, butyeah, I love Jordan Love. Uh
And okay, well you've taken JordanLove or are you taking? Uh?
Jared goff O, Kay, JordanLove. Probably what do you think I'll

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take it Jordan Love. As muchas I hate to say it, but
dude, I talked about this right, like if if Jordan Love, for
whatever reason, just takes forever toget going, Dude, Like, if
the dude can figure out how tobe elite like he is in the third
and fourth quarter, in the firsthalf of the game, the dude would

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be a fantasy monster. He wasthough he's a top five quarterback and he
put it together that was his firstyear starting. Yeah, but what I'm
saying is like he's already good,like, dude, if he figures out
how to be that good in thefirst part of the game, like he's
a monster, like a fantasy monster. Yeah, I don't know. I

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think I think we've seen Jared Goff'sceiling. I mean, I think we've
probably seen him get as good ashe's gonna get. Jordan Love, I
don't think we've seen it yet.Very very true, and we always have
the right about that too, Andwe always have the debate about is it
going to be you know, isit going to be Love or Party?

(40:20):
Because they're so similar and so different, and they finished right fucking next to
each other last year and fantasy statuare you taking the not as talented quarterback
with the great weapons or the greatquarterback with the no weapons. It's such
an interesting dichotomy between them, youknow, and the simple fact that they
finished well, they were finished fiveand six, but Jordan Love had twenty

(40:44):
four more points. So it's interesting. I want to say, so where
are you taking right now? Whichone are you taking out of those two?
Just off the top of your head, I'm still taking Love over Party,
Yeah, I mean too probably it'sthe same argument, like I you
know, like in we haven't seenrock Party as much, but I still
feel like we've kind of seen whathe's got to offer, Like the upside

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on Love is just but we don'tknow how good he can I mean you've
seen Purtty more than love. Pertyhas more starts than love. Love only
started one year, pretty started.That's what I'm saying. Like we've seen
we've seen more of Perdy, butI know we haven't seen like a lot
of him as much as we've seenJared Goff. But like I think we've
seen what he is. You knowwhat I mean. It's the same argument.
We don't know what love is,like we don't know how love could

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be, so like, what islove? Dude? I don't know,
but hopefully it's what is love?Baby, don't hurt me. Hopefully it's
a dude that you can draft latein your league and then ends up getting
you like four hundred and eighty somethingpoints. I'll tell you I got so
lucky last year because I bought anew your hype and in my Fantasy football
family league, I took Jamar Chasein the first round and backed him up

(41:51):
in like the fifth with Joe Burrow. So as we know, but when
Burrow went down, I was like, I'm gonna pick up Jordan Love.
I'll be all right, And wasI all right? You know, so
I got I got lucky in thatleague, but he still lost fucking sister
beat me. God damn bitch,she doesn't hear this. Uh and so,

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and obviously I love Josh Jacobs.I know Adam does. What do
you guys take I think I thinkDave's a little man in him. Seems
like fair fu Jack. Josh Jacobs, Oh my god, name's always notative.
Here's the thing with Josh Jacobs,right he you you know that for

(42:37):
whatever reason, they're not going touse them to the best of his abilities.
You like, you know that,you know Green Bay is not Why
do you say that? They Theyused every player they had to the best
of their abilities last year. AndI'm giving god, what's what's that coach?
There's so many McDaniels, mc carthy's, Mick what's different floor? There's

(43:00):
all these mics and Matt's and Mattthe floor. He used that team.
Jayden Reid came out of nowhere,Romeo Dobbs came out of nowhere. The
tight ends had great games. Imean even the even Aaron Jones was great
when he was healthy. Like,he used that team to the best of
their abilities. This is a guythat's coming. Josh Jacobs is a talented

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running back. Two years ago wasthe number one running back in the NFL.
Now, leaving Josh McDaniels one ofthe grossest coaches and going to a
guy that seems to be pretty welloff as a running back or as an
offensive coach. I still got Dylanthough, right well, they don't know
how I mean, They're they're gonnalike that's what I'm saying, Like,

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they're going They're still going to tryto play Dylan, you know what I
mean. And that means Josh Jacobsreally has to fill in the Aaron Jones
role where he's more of like apass catcher, you know what I mean.
So what's wrong with that fantasy?It's great for fantasy. But I'm
saying like they're just they're just notgonna use him right now. I don't
know if Josh Jacobs is that guy. I think he might be being slept
on a little bit because that offensewas great last year and I think that's

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a huge addition for them. Ithink people are still planning on them to
going out and getting a big receiverwhen they don't need it. Obviously,
where's Josh Jacobs getting drafted right now? We will have to find when we
do our Mick draft. But Ithink it's like late second, late second.
Yes, it's before Derrick Henry.I think that's crazy. To me,
that's crazy. Well, we'll findout what it'll be crazy that you

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would take Josh Jacobs over Derrick Henry. So rank the receivers, Christian Watson,
Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reid. Howare you going to draft those three?
J uh, I don't know becauseI'm torn with Watson because he like,
he can be great, but thenhe's fucking hurt or some other bullshit.

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But I don't know. If Ihad to say right now, probably
Dobbs, Watson, and the otherguy. I'm Dobbs first. Okay,
I'm going opposite. I'm going JadenReid first. That man took over that
receiving core at the end of theyear, and honestly, as much as
I was big on Dobbs and loveDobbs, he made Dobbs disappear towards the

(45:15):
end of season because I got Dobbspulled up right here, Dobbs in the
last from week twelve on. Here'sDobbs. Dobbs's points from week we'll say
eleven, So eleven he scored.Wait is this PPR standards. Let me
get back to the PPA. Doyou have him there? Well, yeah
he was. He finished twenty fifth. Dobbs finished thirty seven and then right,

(45:38):
but look at like, so lookat Dobbs's points and tell me from
Dobbs from week eleven on points,and I'll tell you. Jayden reads what
a Dobbs do week eleven? Actuallyhere, I want to I want to
be fair to Jayden. Read here, Jayden Reid six points. Week two,
we had twenty nine ten to oneseven by so week six they're at
the bye. All right, soweek weeks eleven, Week eight, twelve,

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Week nine seven, All right,Jay, Let's go from ten on
with Dobbs. What did Dobbs haveat ten fourteen point four? Jaden Reid
had nineteen point four Week eleven fifteenpoint two, nineteen point two, Week
twelve eleven fifteen, Week thirteen onepoint six, five point six, Week

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fourteen twelve point five, twenty pointfive, Week fifteen eleven point two,
seventeen point two, Week sixteen byebye, Week seven twenty point nine,
twenty six point nine, Week eighteeneleven fifteen point two. He outscored him
every week. At the end ofthe season for the last seven weeks.

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So I think as much as Iwas a big Dobbs fan last year,
I think j G I think Ithink Jayden Reid is the man. I
think he is their number one,and I think I'm gonna take Christian Watson
second just because of its possible explosionand as much as I love Dobbs,
he's going three. What do youthink too, I actually gotta read Dubbs
Watson. Jane Reid's the wide receiverone in this room. I think I

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had Jayden Reed last year. Hewas either my wide receiver two or my
flex for like most of the fantasyplayoffs. So like, I don't know,
I saw what he did and he'sdefinitely the wide receiver one. Watson,
I don't know, dude. Ithink he might have like I think
he might have lost his chance tolike be meaningful in this offense. No,
I still think he's he. JadenReid and Romeo Dobbs are very similar.

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That's why it's like, if younoticed Romeo Dobbs was great at the
beginning of the season last year,Jan Reed was great at the end of
the season last year. Because theykind of like switched roles where I think
Watson has his own role carved out. I feel like they're still gonna ride
the hot wide receiver, at leastfor the first part of the season,
So I don't think because they allhad different times where they were hot,

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Like Watson was great, then Dobbswas great, and then Reid was great
towards the end. So we couldbe looking at uh a kind of beginning
of the season them figuring out theirroles for sure, which is great for
So then here begs the question JordanLove everyone thinks he doesn't have any weapons?

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Is that true? Or does hehave good weapons? I want to
say, yeah, probably teetering onyou know that fine line between like mid
and great. Yeah, so yeah, I think we need another tier here.
Does he have good weapons? Yes? Does he have great weapons?

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Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying, elite weapons. Does he have like
an elite wide receiver? What arewe looking at like a are we looking
like a stuff on Diggs or somethinglike? No, he doesn't have that.
I don't know if we could saythat's true because Jaden Reid was a
rookie last year and look how heended the season. We don't know oh
yet yeah, we well, yeah, that's I think where we're saying,
don't he as the laite? JadenReid could be a first round Fantasy wide

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receiver in twenty twenty five? Hecould, you know, he could have
this huge breakout year this year andcould be the next guy. I mean,
Christian Watson ended the season huge theyear before, and everybody was taking
him as like a top what twelvereceiver this past year and he burned everybody
because he burns his hamstrings, sobasically he supposedly fixed that problem. Though.

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Yeah, that's I did read that. So all right, let's move
on. Did I have skip theBears? Skip the Bears? Okay,
well the Bears. We'll go tothe Bears. My bad, I skipped
the Bears. Cleveland Cincinnati, Chicago, Chicago Bears. And this is going
to be an interesting team to talkabout because Burke Key Loss is our Dan

(49:52):
Feenie, Justin Field, Dante Forman, Darnell Mooney, Justin Jones, Nathan
Peterman. But they had some fuckingawesome, awesome additions, Dave, and
why don't you tell me about those? Uh? Chas's man crush. Kenan
Allen a top receiver in this league. Yep, center On Bates a top

(50:12):
center in this league. Safety KevinBaal top safety in this league, Gerald
Everett, Jay's boy, safety,Jonathan Owens, guard Matt Pryor, Coleman
Shelton, and DeAndre Swift, whoI'm not gonna call him top running back,
but I love the talent of DeAndreSwift, so I think he could
be. But didn't they bring insome kind of lauded rookie jay. Yeah,

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they brought to Williams, Caleb Williamsand Roma Dunze. So let's skip
Caleb for now because that's gonna bethe biggest discussion. Last year, in
his first year out of Detroit,getting traded on drafted, right, Yeah,

(50:59):
I think he got. I thinkAndrew Swift got traded on draft Day.
The first season out of Detroit,goes into Week one to Philly,
doesn't even start Week one, doesn'tdo anything, if my memory serves me
correctly, and then from week twoon he was fucking fantastic. I feel
not fantastic, but he finished uprunning back twenty and now he went to

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a team that wanted Mind you,how you guys know you've been picking on
me as much as I love DeandrewsSwift. How many touchdowns do you think
he lost to fucking Jalen Hurts?Right, like a lot? You know?
Five? Five? Probably? Yeah? Right, so you give you
give him five touchdowns, right,that's uh, that's it's a five times

(51:44):
six. That's thirty one points,all right, So that would put him
up in the category around James Cookat twelve overall, so that that could
have been where he was, well, just five more touchdowns, but he
finished twenty. I think him goingto this team is great. They want
him, they paid him. He'sa pass catching receiver with a rookie quarterback.

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I think he's gonna be awesome.But I always feel that way about
him. You do always feel thatway about him, Yes, you do,
And he was awesome last year.I don't necessarily disagree with you this
here. I think DeAndre Swift isa safe play. Yeah, yeah,
I think we're fine. Is hegetting drafted? He finished twenty, He's
getting drafted above twenty, right?Yeah? Yeah, especially just because of

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the hype around Chicago. Right now. Good, you guys are on my
side for once. Let's talk aboutthe three headed monster. You know,
I love Keenan Allen and I loveDJ Moore too, and I love DJ
Moore too, and I love RomaDunze so like fuck, but I don't
think you can buy in a Dundee. He's a distant third for his rookie
season, He's got but towards theend of the season when Keenan Allen gets

(52:47):
hurt, Yeah, I'm glad yousaid it. And they got a great
tight end too. So so soif I was to rank those three receivers
in a PPR, I'm going KeenanAllen, DJ Moore, which is what
we play, and then Rome Andif it's like a standard, I might

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go DJ Moore first, but Idon't really play in Standard, so I'm
going Keenan Allen David your league,which is a half point because you want
to make everything fucking difficult. Ithink I'm still going Keenan Allen. But
I'll tell you what, if Idraft Keenan al, I'm gonna try to
get Roma Dundee later because you knowKeenan's gonna get hurt. I don't think
there's any situation where I'm taking DJMoore over Keenan Allen. No, he

(53:31):
had a great year last year,dude, he did but like, you
know that exactly what we're talking about. The addition to Keenan Allen, they
drafted a rookie that they love,DeAndre Swift. It just just feels like
the ball is getting spread around more, you know what I mean, Like
DJ Moore is not the man anymore. Stats have to go down. But

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here's the thing, Dave, whatwe're sleeping on is who had the better
season in fantasy last year out ofthose two? Out of Keenan Allen,
DJ Moore. Yeah, well reallyDJ Moore. But if you took an
average of like actual games played,like then it's Keenan Allen. Yeah for
sure. But DJ Moore, whatdo you think he finished? Djmore,
he probably finished inside the top eighteen. You're gonna go to eighteen? How

(54:15):
about six overall? Six overall?And to be fair though, to also
Chast's point about like DJ Moore didbetter than Keenan Allen, Keenan Allen finished
eighth and played four less games.You know, I love so like,
but DJ Moore might be a littleslept out. I don't think Keenan Allen
just comes in and be the alphadog. And by the way, they're

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very they're very different wide receivers.The only reason I would take Keenan Allen
above it is because of the PPRaspect, where he's kind of a PPR
monster. DJ Moore is a bigmore of a big play guy. It's
like Devonte Smith versus AJ Brown,you know, like it's Jayleen Olive versus
Tyreek Hill. You know, it'sjust that kind of which one's better.

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Keenan Allen had four last games andhe only finished like one hundred less yards
receiving and one less touchdown. Yeah, for sure, But he also had
Justin Herbert, not fucking Justin Fieldsor Tyson Bagent too. Yeah. My
my my thing was. As muchas I love Keenan Allen, I just
think DJ Moore might be swept slepton a little bit. And I feel

(55:20):
that him finishing six shock the hellout of Dave. It certainly did.
The Problem with that though, islike, you know, again, the
him finishing six, the hype aroundChicago right now. I don't think anybody's
sleeping on him. He's got tobe getting drafted high. How about this.
He had a better year than MikeEvans, Stefan Diggs, Davante Adams,

(55:42):
Jamar Chase, but he missed thegame, but sure, Jamar Chase,
Nico Collins, you know he hadbetter season. Chris o'labbe. You
gotta you gotta take that out withthe grain of salt, because it's fluky,
right, Mike Evans had a consistentseason. DJ Moore had games of
four touchdowns. He had points oneweek. Yeah, so I mean you
got to you gotta take that witha grain of salt. If you're looking

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for a consistent like wide receiver too, you really would you really take Dj
More over Mike Evans? I rightnow because I would. I might.
I might because I'll tell you whathe's got just as much competition, and
I'll tell you what he's got thebetter quarterback. I don't know what King

(56:28):
Caleb Williams is not better than Baker. Oh no, no, no,
no, that's that's not what Iwas saying. I don't know about it.
I don't know about your decision toover of Dj Moore over Mike Might.
I think I might. He's alsoa little bit younger, you know
so, But it's interesting the tightend, you know, Cole Comet,
I think he's your perfect guy tograb at, like ten or eleven or
twelve and hope for the best.Yeah, right, all right, Caleb,

(56:51):
we's got to talk about it.I'm telling you he's gonna be in
my top twelve. Listen to thoseweapons we just talked about, and I
get it. Oh, I'm notsurrounded by all rookie haters today because Adam's
not here. So I just gotone rookie hater. But I know Dave's
play. He's gonna tell him CaylebWilliams is gonna be thirteen. It's gonna
be Dave's play, right Am,I right? Oh, I mean,

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I haven't done my rankings yet.I honestly don't know what to do here,
because you know that I don't puta lot of faith in rookies,
but this is probably one of thebest situations that I've seen in a very
long time. I think it wouldalmost be foolish for me to be such
a non believer in rookies that Ijust totally faded on him. But I

(57:35):
don't know. It's just another oneof those situations, man, where it's
like I'll probably rank them inside mytop twelve, but also in my heart
of hearts, I know I'm probablynot drafting him, but he's so talented,
it's not like so like think comparethese two. When Trevor Lawrence came
to the league, he had nothingaround him, such a talented, like
lauded guy, nothing around him.But then somebody like Rock Party comes in

(57:57):
the league with no you know,nothing behind him and gets on the talented
team with the weapons and does great. This is a talented bona fide number
one overall pick, Heisman Trophy winner, Heisman Trophy winner and runner up and
goes to this team with all thisfucking weaponry like it's wild. You don't
see that you have? Okay,think about the Think about how juice we

(58:22):
were on Anthony Richardson right, Igot hurt. He was great. Listen,
man, you know you're yelling atme. Okay, Think of how
how high we all were on AnthonyRichardson right, And we a lot of
us drafted Anthony Richardson in like theninth tenth round, like we drafted him
late, you know what I mean, Like, there's too much hype around

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this, dude, There's going tobe somebody in your draft that is just
like the Bears are going to bethe best fucking team that ever existed.
And I'm drafting Caleb Williams in thefourth round, like, you know that
really going that. I don't knowabout that. I could be wrong,
but I'm with Dave on this.All the fucking hype and everything else,

(59:04):
there's gonna be someone out there that'sgonna be like, yeah, I'm taking
I'm taking Caleb Williams super fucking early. He's he's gonna be a monster.
Here's an honest question. Why takeCJ. Stroud over Caleb Williams If you
just compare the two. Sure,c J. Stroud has this one year
in the NFL which makes Adam think, you know, oh my god,
he's incredible. C J. Stroudhad a great year in the NFL.

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This kid that Caleb Williams was abetter college quarterback than c J. Stroud,
a better prospect than c J.Stroud is coming to a team with
better weapons than c J. Stroud. So why will we take c J.
Stroud over? Because of what?Like you have to think about it
in terms of a fantasy draft,And the reason you do that is because

(59:50):
you can get c J. Stroudso much later and then earlier when you
would have taken Caleb Williams, youget another piece of the puzzle. That's
better. He is not. KayWilliams is not. We'll see when we
do this mock draft. He's notgoing above C. J. Stroud in
mock drafts at least. We'll see. We'll see. It's an interesting debate,
we will see. I just thinkthe hype around Chicago is so incredibly

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high right now that you are goingto get people in your drafts that come
in with a head, a fullesteem, like hard on for Chicago,
and these dudes are gonna go early. Well, the draft we're gonna do
is an ADP draft, so we'llfind out what's happening. Let's get to
the last team to talk about quicklybecause I want to do this draft now
is the Minnesota Vikings. They theyhave the most highest paid player in the

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NFL history that's not a quarterback,right, Yep. We've they brought in
some good stuff Blake Cashman, SamDarnold, Jonathan gran greenerd Shack Griffin,
Aaron Jones, Andrew Van Ginkel,Gee hoad Ward, and Jonah Williams.
They lost Kirk Cousins, Marcus Davenport, Jordan Hicks, daneil Hunter, Crank,

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Joseph the president of the United StatesAlexander Madison. That's all that matters.
Brought in JJ McCarthy, Sam Darnold. I don't think it matters who's
starting. I'm really interested, though, to see how JJ does with the
new quarterback. He did pretty goodlast year without him, still without Cousins
because Cousins hurt himself. He's didpretty good without him. But I think

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this team is rebuilding and I andI still I am gonna buy into JJ
as a top three or four widereceiver. He's not gonna be my number
one, He's not gonna be mynumber two, and we'll see where he
goes from there. I'll buy anAaron Jones and it's like a last hurrah,
And maybe I'll buy an Addison Hawk'sgonna be hurt most of the year.

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I don't know. I don't reallycare about this team, to be
honest, I think there's value tobe had here. Like you said,
nobody's really sold on this team.They all think it's in a rebuild.
No, I'm also a little bitnervous about JJ. But like you said,
man, I think Aaron Jones isa sneaky, sneaky play a dude
that you can get that no onereally gives a shit about where. It's
like, if you faded on yourRB two and youyone elsewhere, you can

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probably do worse. Yeah. Sure, probably get some catches either from Rookie
or checkdown or check down Donald.So, but I'm just not high on
anybody. Off the top of yourhead, Jay, where are you putting?
Uh? Where you're putting wide receiverrankings above? Is he one?

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No? No? Okay? Areyou taking j j or or Jamar Jamar?
Oh my goodness, that's I've beencalling that for years too. That's
what that's wild. Okay, Sothat that's where I mean. I'm sure
you guys are both probably taking Tyreekabove them and Lamb yep, yeah CD.

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So I mean, for me,it might end up. I still
love j I still love Jamar Chase. It's gonna be it's gonna be surprising,
it's gonna be it's gonna be wild, because like, why are people
putting CD Lamb after one good seasonover Jamar? I guess Jami has only
had one good season, Okay,So you know what I mean. So
I guess it's fair. I guessit's fair. But allegedly Jamar has the

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best quarterback out of all of them. So that's why, that's why I
just I still don't know Whe'm gonnaput Ceede Lamb. It's gonna be weird.
My my wide receiver rankings are gonnabe rough because I want to say
it's Jamar Chase, even though Iloved Ceed Lamb last year as well coming
into the season, and Tyreek alwaysputs up good numbers, so it's it's
interesting. I had CD Lamb,he won me my championship last year.

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I'm probably still going I'm still goingto Chase one me really yeah, I'm
going Chase one, maybe even Tyreektwo then CD three. Okay, I
thought I was the only one leaningtowards Chase going one. Okay, I'm
leaning towards it. I really am. I really am so all right,
So who's winning the NFC? UhNorth, I have no idea. It's

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this is probably the tightest one,right yeah, isn't it between two teams?
Or are we putting the Bears inthe race? I mean, I
think with all the weapons, yougotta kind of put the Bears possibly in
the race. It all depends onCayleb Williams. Though. You gotta kind
of put them in there. Imean, well, I'll tell you what
I think the Bears are in thediscussion for wild card. I think this

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is what it boils down to.One of those two upstart teams between Detroit
and Green Bay is gonna have abad year. And I think one of
them are gonna miss the playoffs.You think I do. I think one
of them is gonna have a badyear. Chicago's gonna surprise some people.
I think Chicago can get their nameinto the wild card. But I just
think one of those two teams inthe same division is going to have a

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down year. My gut says Lovetakes the next step and they win the
division. That's what my gut says. But I don't know. I'm going
with Green Bay to Yeah, Ijust think you're right. I think Love
it's going to get himself up therein the conversations of like oh you got
you got Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, but then on the next level,

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you got you know what I mean, Like Love might get his way into
the back end of conversation, likepeople are already annoying CJ. Stroud there
after one year, Like I'm justkind of I don't know. It's I
think Green Bay is gonna win,and I think I think Detroit might have
a down year. It doesn't meanthey're gonna win four games, but I
think they might make some place.I think it's probably gonna be the Packers.

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If I had to guess right now, I thought I was gonna be
the only one on that. Guys, I emailed you a link to the
sleeper I don't know if you gotit? Well, what else do?
How else do? What were wedoing the chat chat? I'll the chat
for you. I don't do itin the chat for you. Hang on
the well. You know what,if anyone's in the chat wants to do

(01:05:55):
the sleeper thing, I'll put itin the chat. You guys could come
and do the sleeper draft with us. Come on, why can't I past
it? I guess I can't putit in the chat. I won't let
me put in the jet. Let'stry out one more time. I got
it, okay, So So ifany so twelve team sleeper, there's three
of us, So I'm gonna goin the middle. One of you guys

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take one, one of you guystake twelve. Dave took twelve, so
Jay you're taking Huan all right.So looking at the way they have it
ranked right here. As the receivers, they got Jimar Chase as the fourth
wide receiver. They do have Jeffersonover them, yeah, CD number one.

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Yeah, so that's the rankings here. What was our other discussion where
Caleb was going, right, Solet's see Caleb is going pretty late.
Caleb's going before Brock Purty, afterJordan Love. So that's one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten eleven. So they got themabout eleven or twelve, okay in rankings

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and wow, and they have fuckingthey have joring to love it like ten
wild wild wild to me, yeswild. All right, we're all here.
Jay, you're picking first, I'mpicking sixth, Dave, you're picking
twelve. We're doing the I believeit's the Fantasy Football Bros. League with
the double flex. Doogie doogie.Yeah, we got the double flex.

(01:07:32):
We're not gonna do any fun thingsright now about like changing each other's place.
We're just gonna have an honest togoodness draft and see where people get
drafted. All right, boys,here we go, starting it now.
Jay Coln James said he wants todo it. Hang on, do we
want to do it? It's hangon? Can we ask some God?

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Damn it? Sorry you made ittoo late, James. I'm sorry.
We'll do one with you after.I'll do one with you after off offline.
We'll do one to get that sleeperapp on your phone. Okay,
so we started off. Oh I'mnot sharing screen. Shit, hang on,
let me share my screen. Youeven share your screen. He can
get in here. Restart the shiprestarted, James restarted, James, you're
in bro. Yeah, I'll geta new one for us going. Sorry

(01:08:16):
everybody at home. Uh, James, I'll try to post it in the
chat again. It wasn't letting me. Let me try one more time,
ask for your audience participation, andthen goes, you know what, fuck
it? Well we started. Whywon't it let me paste this link in
the chat. I'm just fucking emailit like a normal person. No,

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No, just email all right,we get it, all right, copy
link link copied post in the chat, paste in the twitch chat. Yeah,
won't let me paste this link inthe chat? Oh, just email,

(01:08:57):
just email as amy to you.Yeah, email it to me.
But I'm trying to get James in. Yeah, I'll put it in your
chat. You'll put it in thechat, all right, James, We're
gonna put in the chat for you. Sorry, sorry, people at home.
H I suck here, sorry peopleat home. All right, So
Jay, if you guys are bore, just to keep ahead a little bit.

(01:09:17):
Sorry people at home. Okay,here we go sending you the link
and then you try to put itin the chat for James, because it
won't fucking do it for me.No matter what I do, it will
not copy it and paste it.Goose, what's up? Goose? You're
about to see a mock draft coming. Oh, I got it now.
Now it's going in the chat.There we go. There it is,

(01:09:39):
James or anybody. If anybody wantsto join the fantasy draft, it is
in the chat. Have the sleepdraft. I'm picking six. Well are
we doing we got four? Arewe doing one for? It? Don't
matter. I'm picking six. Youjpick one U you know, Dave take
twelve like we did before, andthen you guys pick wherever. So let's
let's see who comes in here.So I'm gonna leavest wait for James.

(01:10:03):
I don't know if Goose is comingor not, but Goose is working all
right, what the fuck's going on? All right, James, join that,
Join that up. This is thefun you get when you watch the

(01:10:24):
Fantasy Football Bros. Live on theJazz Cast. We do think we have
fun and watch James go I'm notcoming. I don't have the app.
You probably bailed when you told himthe fuck off it says I should be
in. Did you pick a spot? James? Oh you did? There
he is. I'm sorry, Jamestook it. All right, guys,

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Goose ain't doing it, so wegot saints. Joe's here still. He
would do it, but he's anold man and in bed. So Jay's
picking first. I'm picking six,James, everybody is picking eighth, and
Zags is picking twelve. So letme share the screen, Mew for every
buddy gone. Shut up, you'rethe one that was late. We start
early so I can go to bedearly. And here it is. It's

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almost about time when we normally finish. Speaking of old man full of us
get to sleep till fucking one o'clockin the afternoon. Oh my god.
Alright, here we go boys startingthe draft. All right, Jay,
you're on the clock. I knowwhat you did before. Why don't you
tell us who you're taking CMCMC notafraid of the Madden curse, no question,

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CMC versus everyone not afraid of theMadden curse. Here I am it
went CMC Tyreek Hill, Okay,Jamar went as a second receiver. Ceedee
Lamb Justin Jefferson. Do I takeI'm on Saint Brown? Or do I
think? Am I going to takea gamble on my baby boy with a
much better head coach than I am? Which I here? Wo pooka seventh

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overall, I'm on Brown? Ilove Bjon you know that. And he
doesn't have Arthur Smith anymore. Sothey drafted a very conservative, defensive minded
head coach that likes to run theball. Give me b John Robinson.
Thank you, Puka. That's early. That's a reach. That Pooka at
seventh overalls reach. It's it's ait's a reach. I mean I would

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have easily taken Amen Rah over it. So James is on the clock.
Minute and a half left. Let'ssee how he wants to start his draft.
Here, James, there we go, and he went. He went
to mirror Games after all we talkedabout. And then bres Hall breeseall fall
in the tenth overall, and thenwe had Garrett Wilson in the first round.

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Ridiculous, ridiculous? Why isn't ridiculous? So uh so we're at the
end with you, Dave. You'relooking at Your best running backs available are
j T Kirn Williams Kwan. Yourbest receivers are available are AJ Brown,
Marvin Harrison, DeVante Adamsdrake London.By there, I don't know why you
ready for the stack? What yougot Aj Brown? And Kyrine Williams okay?

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And then it went Marvin Harrison andthen Drake len Why is Drake London
going here? Why? No clue? Why is Drake London going no clue?
I get it, he's got He'sgot a better quarterback now. But
Wilson and then Taylor and Sa Kwanwent back to back, and then Olave

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went So I'm up on the boardright now. I'm happy that I got
Bejeon because the best running backs availableare Etn h Hin, Jacob's Henry.
I'm not comfortable with that. Allthe fucking receivers are flying off the board
too, though. But you knowwhat, I know he's kind of slept
on, but he's still sitting there, and I'm comfortable in the middle of

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the second round to take Davante Adams. So I'm gonna take Davante Adams here.
You know the guy's gonna produce.It's over. I UK, it's
over. Stephan Diggs, over over, Mike Evans. Yeah, I'm gonna
take him here. So Davante Adams. Then we had sighting. H Josh
Allen goes with the second last pickof the second round, and you were
on the clock. Jay, Youstarted with see him. See what's your

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next attack? Oh boy, fuckingwide receivers. Holy shit. That's why
it's scary to start with a runningback now. But there's so still many
good ones. I mean, justscroll down a little bit. I mean
you're still looking at Amari Cooper,like twenty picks away and stuff. So
I don't think you're dead if youdon't get but you have your chance to

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take one and another running back ifyou choose or double up on him now
or are you thinking Travis light notbe thinking Travis Henry. He knows the
moves, he knows I normally wouldgo double running back, but I'm just
gonna do something different for this draft. So you did go Kelsa. So
now your team can talk about TaylorSwift the whole time. I think that's

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a great pick there. So youtook Nico Collins over stuff, okayp and
then it went etn Josh Jacobs.Then they went to a part and then
look who's who went next? DjMoore went before Keenan Allen, Dave.
So that was that's cool, that'swhat we were saying. But looking at
the rankings here, Looking at therankings here, Keenan Allen, I don't

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even fucking see he's ranked fifty fourplayer overall. That's bananas. Yeah,
So Dj Moore, I think youguys might be sleeping on him a little
bit. So that's all. Solooking at what we got here, I
love him. He's still sitting here. I gotta take him in the middle
of the third round with King Henry, I'll take it. That is fucking
insane, Yeah, Jalen hurts MichaelPittman, James, you started with two

(01:15:32):
running backs. That's a little absurdnowadays. So James has got Gibbs and
Taylor great picks. By the way, I was so close and taking Josh
Shacobs over Kelsey. But it's runningbacks thing is scary. Now, James
takes Mike Evans and then it goesDeebo, Samuel and Pacheco and Dave.
So what's your next deck? Youdoing the same kind of stack? No,
actually, I'm gonna do something differenthere. This is gonna be This

(01:15:58):
is gonna be very interesting because Ialready have Kiren. Are you thinking about
Cup? Yeah? I just thinkabout Cup here. I mean it's so
late for him, man, youknow what, I'm just gonna go ahead
and do it. I really likeLamire this year. I'm gonna grab him.
Oh that's so Undave, Like,yeah, it really is. And

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like neighbors are just unproven obviously asa rookie, I know he's gonna be
good. Wattile, I'm not highon Rashad White was like, I mean
he was, he was legit.But like, do I really want to
roll into RB two with Rashad Waite? I don't know. Well, Goose
called, you're taking Cup and LamarI just showed it on the stream right

(01:16:42):
now, So is he right?Is he? Is he? You know
what, dude, I'm just gonnalock up my sight on and be done
with it. My bride that Ifeel well, maybe not. I mean,
but I feel that's a bit earlyMcBride in the fourth. So,
Dave, you taking McBride in thefourth, should I consider keeping him in
our fantasy football Bros. League outof such a late because he was free
agent. It's you're comfortable with himin the fourth, I be comfortable.

(01:17:03):
Yeah, I am comfortable with himin the four. Well, I mean,
this is a mock, so Iprobably took him earlier than I normally
would have. But if you're sayingyou're getting McBride is like a seventh eighth
round pick, like, yeah,I'm fine with that, keep it.
Well, it would be a whateverbecause he was a free agent. James
went with C. J. Stroud, James Cook off the board, Maleak
Neighbors in the second round, RashadWhite, and right before I came back,

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they took Jayleen Waddle. Fuck.I wanted him to but Dave,
I'm taking your boy. I'm takingCooper Cup here. Not a bad not
a bad pick. And then Iwent Metcalf Mahomes, Kenneth Walker, Mark
Andrews, and Jay. You're backon the board. Is it a reach
around you mean snake draft? Yeah, it's a snake draft. I'm gonna

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take comments on string Camara and I'mgonna do my guy, Keenan Kamara and
Keenan. So you got Keenan inthe fifth where Moore went in the So
interesting to see Dafante Smith, JoeMixon, Ze Flowers, Tank Dell and

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you know what, I called himout earlier and saying that I think he's
a little underrated, and he's stillsit there. So I'm gonna take a
Marie Cooper. And then we gotthe terminator James Connor Christian Kirk in the
fifth. Is that high for ChristianKirk? I guess not. I mean

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the way the way that Distraft's goingwith the seven thousand wide receivers off the
board, Yeah, that's probably fine. And then we're waiting on James,
who I wonder if James actually tookc J. Stroud. So c J.
Stroud was the one, two,three, four, the fifth quarterback
of the board. Why why amI so wrong? Am I so wrong?
Thinking that's absurd? That's pretty earlyto me? But I don't think

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so Wow, that seems crazy.James wants to know, is it a
hach to a draft? I'm sayingyou're not crazy for thinking it's absurd.
I mean, there's there's dudes outhere that I would rather have than ce
J. Stroud right now, cJ. Stroud Burn and so Bride.
James, tell me in the chatwhy you took him so earlier? Him?
Please tell me it was a computerpick. T Higgins, George Pickings,

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George Brettel and then Dave, you'reback on the clock right now.
Do you regret taking Trey McBride?There that there's still Dalton Kincaid, Evan
Ingham, Kyle Pitts, David andJoku. Do you regret that pick?
Not really, because I'm like,honestly, I'm comfortable with McBride, and
I'm gonna stack two running backs herethat I'm pretty fine with. I'll take

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Aaron right here and Dean Swift,son of a bitch, I'm good.
Oh my god, Xavier Worthy,holy shit, and then Dalton Kincaid.
Wow. So James says he didlike it. He does like Crod He's
gonna ball out, okay. Sohe's got good wide receivers, young athletic

(01:20:01):
and make play with his legs.So why not take Jordan Love? Then,
James, why not take Jordan Love? There? We're not there,
but later in the draft. We'llsee he's on the He's on the board
right now. James on the boardright now. You fucked me with that.
Uh DeAndre Swift? Pick man,I wanted him so bad. Let's
stack those two running backs right therelike that's something. No, great,

(01:20:23):
great, pick great. I'm I'meyeballing somebody right any better? And he
does not teammate takes Anthony Richardson yourdick, whoever teammate is James to grom
with Dunzai. Wait, man,you weren't listening to the podcast, man,
Rashie Rice goes Roman Dunza. AndI was desperately, not desperate,

(01:20:43):
but I was looking at Richardson there, but no, he gone. So
we're not gonna pull the trigger.So so far I'm looking at I got
Jon Robinson, Deafante, Adams,Dereck, Henry Cooper, cup of Marie
Cooper. Not bad start at all. We're in the sixth round. Hate
me all you want. He's comingback, baby, Kyle Pitt, Joe
Burrow, Richard Stevenson, Ramandre Stevens, Stephenson, Terry McLaurin, David Montgomery

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and the end of the sixth round, Jay, you're up for two.
I'm gonna take read here, JaydenReid okay, and then oh boy,
um fuck it, I'm gonna takeDak I been doing it. Jordan Anderson,

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brock Bowers in the round. Nickjob goes in the seventh. I
know we were looking at him.So Nick Chubb's in the seventh, all
right? So do I have Ionly have two running backs? I got
b Jon and Henry. I gottwo running backs. There's somebody sitting here

(01:21:54):
that I think is being slept onthis year, and I'm taking him.
And there's gonna be Naji Harris.And the reason I say that is everybody
sleeping in Najie Harris because he's thebig, kind of bumblely guy and everybody
wants to jerk off over Jalen WarrenDave, who is the offensive coordinator for
the Steelers. Uh Arthur Smith.And does Arthur Smith like the younger,

(01:22:21):
more athletic backs. I mean,they'll run the ball five thousand times this
season. Is he gonna run itwith the athletic, exciting back or the
big bumbley guy bumbles? So Ithink people are sleeping on Najie Harris a
lot this year to get him inthe seventh round. I'm very happy with
that. So, okay, Jamestakes Jake Ferguson. Then we got Tony

(01:22:45):
Pollard, and after Tony Pollard,we've got little fellow Kyler Murray and Dave,
you're on the clock for two.Okay, So this is where I
kind of screwed myself. You've gotone receiver right one receiver right now.
So I'm just straight up gonna takeGodwin and Hopkins, and I hope that
one of them is good. Dave, I mean, Jay, did you
see that coming team tener Jordan willI knew the de hop was gonna be

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a pick there. So there's alot of quarterbacks in the top eight picks
in the top eight rounds here,really is? I mean, Jordan Love
just went fucking Murray's gone, Prescott, Richardson, Burrow, Mahomes, Hurt,
Stroud, Jackson, Allen, Likefuck, am I the only one
without one? Now there's still acouple teams without one. I can always

(01:23:32):
pick ta yes, and then ChristianWatson goes Jigba Deontay Johnson. I'm on
the clock, you know what,I've been talking them up. Let's fucking
go. Caleb Williams I'm gonna allthe quarterbacks are gone, so Merr White,

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Javonte, Williams, Brock Party AustinEckler. That was a pick out
of necessity because there was only oneother team without a quarterback and he took
one, so I had to andI was getting and I even said I'm
taking Caleb over brock pretty So therewe go, I true to my word,
Caleb over Jared Goff. Yeah,golf was still there. You're ready?

(01:24:16):
Yeah? I mean yeah, maybeI didn't see golf there, but
honestly, all right, Jay tookBrian Thomas Junior. I don't even know
this guy, but I didn't evenother running back, So the rookie running
back in Carolina, Lad McConkey,Zach Moss, Jalen Warren, David and
Joke who back to me? Now, OK, I'll get that one of

(01:24:46):
those later. Uh. Here wego. I want you to announce this
pick. Are you ready? Areyou? Are you looking at my screen?
You're ready? Announce the pick?Ready? Go? Wow? We
went with Kean Coleman from the BuffaloBills. Why not such a homer,
Trey Benson, Dallas Goddard and JamesIs on the clock. Well, why

(01:25:06):
not. I was actually between Keonand Brian Thomas Junior. Yeah, why
not? Who's got the better quarterback? So James is on the clock,
he is in need. I kindof like what James did. I didn't
like C. J. Stroud earlier, but his team solidified it. He

(01:25:29):
took the two running backs early,but he's he He got good receivers later
in the draft. He did Higginsis a little bit of question mark.
He went with Devin Singletary and thenwe went Hawk and Schultz. So team
eight has two tight ends. Theytook Ingram and Goddard. Interesting balls,

(01:25:51):
were you looking at one of them? No? You yeah, I wanted
Hawk right there. What you've gotMcBride in the fourth doesn't matter. You
can start two of them, twoof them. Okay, sorry, balls
man, balls, what's your thoughts? Do I really want to do this?

(01:26:12):
Do I really want to do that? Like I'm just taking flyers on
wide receivers right now because I waitedso fucking long. Um, yeah,
I'm gonna do it. Let's goahead and just do it because who knows,
oh, Curtis Samuel that I wasgonna get them on my way back
after Coleman actually who knows and Idon't. I don't know, dude.

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I talked this dud up when wewere talking about the Colts. They need
a wide receiver too. So andthen I'm Mitchell, James Williams, J
Spears. I'll tell you what,even though I took you on Coleman,
there he was ranked higher I Andwhen am I do my rankings, I
might have I think I might haveSamuel above them. I feel like it's
a toss up. You're just we'rejust not gonna know who the numbers a

(01:26:53):
rookie is. We know better it'sa rookie on the Buffalo Bill. Yeah,
so we know the answer well already, Yeah, who's gonna who's gonna
be better in the first four weeks? We know the answer and the season
who's gonna be the better player tohave? Who knows? So Romeo Dobbs

(01:27:14):
and then Blake Korum. I'm gonnatake a guy here who I'm surprised is
still sitting here. He had tentouchdowns last year? Why is Corland still
there? In the time? Right? They don't seem right, right?
Is the least sexy VIDI but inthe tenth Yeah, I mean that's fine.
Gus Thatwards, Jade and Daniels.Jaye and Daniels went before Jared Goff.
But the wheels gotta have the wheels. And then Zeke. Zeke's a

(01:27:39):
good pick there. Zeek's the numberone running back in Dallas, folks,
news flash, wild right, buthe is Yeah, I know, news
flash, folks. That's the numberone running back. And then I just
got shot in the ass Brian Robinson. I couldn't draft him that guy.
I can't have Brian Robinson and bJeon Robinson. I can't do it.
No, you can't do that.That's asking for trouble. And then Mike

(01:28:01):
Williams, Tyler locket Ah. Iwas gonna. I was just so Justin
Herbert just went. I was gonnatake him to hedge my bets with with
Caleb Williams, but it did notfall my way. But I'm going to
hedge my bets with Caleb Williams.With Trevor Lawrence. Why I was high
on him last year. Whatever,hedging my bets, Chase Brown, Jacobe

(01:28:28):
Myers, James is on the clocka man. I was hoping to get
either Jade and Daniels or Justin Herbertthere they both went to Hedge my bets
sons of bitches, and they bothtook back up quarterbacks too. Fuckers.
But that's how it's gonna be ina real draft, right basically, you
gotta remember that. I mean,we're in the eleventh round here, you

(01:28:49):
know, and then we'll go overour teams and they'll be in. Oh.
Then we went a a Ron andMatthew Stafford, Xavier, look at
I'm going, and James and orJames took Aaron Rogers. You're on the
clock, Dave. I'm gonna takethis too. I was higher on this
dude last year. I just Ijust like him. I think I think
he's got some talent. Fuck,dude, all these running backs are just

(01:29:14):
a fucking abysmal. They really are. They are good. Lord, do
I do it? Do I doit? Whatever it is, do it.
No, I talked so much shitabout him, I can't do it.

(01:29:36):
There just bullshit. All of thisis bullshit. We're in crap territory
or whatever. Give me cousins.Your cousins, Jerome for Joshua Downalds and
James is up. There's somebody I'mstaring at that I don't think should be
here. And let's see if Iget him. I don't think he should
be here, I really don't.But we'll see if I get him,

(01:29:59):
because I've got three picks, andthings happen for a reason, So we'll
see you, especially in the twelfthround, because guy I'm looking at shouldn't
be there. Uh. I carriedto go over our rosters. Mine looks
pretty good. Mistakes were made?Are you regretting? So Sharbonne? Jay?

(01:30:28):
Uh? Whatever? Jay? Right? The running back from Miami.
Remember this guy we used to everyoneloved for a while, Pat fryarm Youth.
Yeah, yes, we loved himfor a while. I don't know
about these running backs. And Ionly have three running back went off a
cliff, right, Yeah, andI only have fucking three and I got

(01:30:51):
one, two, three, four, five receivers, So yeah, I
guess I gotta go running back here. I'm gonna take Rico Dowdle just because
Zeke's JK Dobbins, Chuper Hubber At, Troy Franklin, big Booty, Jerry
Judy. That was the receiver.I was staring at it sitting there in
the late twelfth I feel like heshould have been a little bit earlier.

(01:31:17):
Yeah, I don't know. Sowe still got five picks to go,
two of them being defense and kickers. So really, three more players on
your rosters here. This is adeeper bench because this is the Fantasy Football
Bros. League rules. Ricky PiersollOkay, Johannu Smith, Tyson, Chandler

(01:31:41):
Gate, Davis fuck Ca Andrey Miller, who you fucking mistakes for? Made
my ends have the same goddamn byeweek. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,
it's fine that that is a mistake. Here's a guy that I think
people are sleeping on in a newoffense with a roo with a rookie,
a new offense with a rookie quarterback. How about a little pass catching back

(01:32:03):
by the name of Antonio Gibson rightin the in the thirteenth round. That
was my pick Gibson. Yeah,Kate Ott and Brandon Cooks. James is
on the clock. So remember youguys, got about you, Dave,
You've got three more players, andyou know then we'll be at the kicker
and defense. Well, you candraft him whenever you want, but nobody's

(01:32:23):
drafted a kicker to a defense,which is not gonna happen in your drafts
at home, folks, definitely not. People will be drafting kickers and defenses
sooner fucking possible. Rush Shahi therehe is, kid, Quentin Johnston,
Marshaun Lloyd, and Dave E're ropefor two. You know what, dude,
I'm gonna be honest. I waitedso long on running back and this

(01:32:45):
is so abysmal. I think I'dliterally just need to fucking start backing people
up at this point. So giveme some real. Shawn Johnson, it's
your fucking boy anyway. I lovehim, dude, you love that,
I really do. These are justabsolutely this is right, guys. Running
back falls off a freaking cliff,and I'm gonna go ahead and do this

(01:33:09):
just to make Chaz mad. Hetakes the Elsier Adam feeling. He takes
a fucking this motherfucker, this motherfucker. He takes a fucking kick away a
kicker. I got a sleeper pick. I'm in a half soon, but
I'm gonna I think he's gonna fallto me, so I'm gonna wait on

(01:33:33):
him. But why won't you addto Mike cue? Can I not add
you to my cue? Okay?I guess not. What is happening here?
That's my sleeper pick right there unlessone do you take him? But
we'll see Jane Sicker all you startedit, Aubrey Baker Mayfield goes in the

(01:33:56):
fourteenth round. That was a topten qv last year, guys, top
ten QB. You know what?Why is he still there? He shouldn't
be there. Yeah, I'm gonnatake John Dotson. Here was the first
round pick? To you? Ishe still there? Ben Sinnett, Evan
McPherson, Jalen Polk, Isaiah likelyJay, you're up for two? Final

(01:34:21):
day running the kicker run ye,Dave starting the kicker running, asshole.
I'm gonna hate myself for doing this, I know it. But Russell wesbro
Limited, Hey, most I needhim for one week, so I'll take

(01:34:42):
a flyer. Oh boy, OhJoe, Joe Saints Jones back in the
chat. Sorry I didn't see youguys there. We were busy playing.
Nobody is picking Spencer Rattler, Bud, don't you worry about it? J
with the message of the of theday, So smart, Judy is duty?

(01:35:08):
Good lord? What just happened?The kicker run Young Hulk Tyler baths
Dave on Weeks, Jake Elliott,Elliott Dave and the Kicker over that started
a thing, guys, you did, Let's go. We talked about him
glowingly last the Rookie episode. BraylenAllen from the Jets, Julian mcauchlan,

(01:35:31):
Ray Davies from the Bells. Jamesis up. You know, you know
what running back is still there andI can't take so you could take him,
Dave, which would probably be smart. Huh, it would have been
smart if it would have been smartif Jay took him Mitchell. Yeah,

(01:35:57):
if he's still there, Yeah,that's interesting, unless James is gonna take
him because he heard he took RomanWilson and then JJ McCarthy and Elijah Mitchell.
That's a good that's a good latepick. These dists, everything is
just garbage. Just absolutely love Herbertfor a while too. No, I'm

(01:36:21):
not taking three Chica running backs.What about Keaton Mitchell? Super late guy
had one good game every year.Saint Joe was about to marry him.
Yeah he really was. Ah,you know what, whatever, Mooney,

(01:36:42):
he'll throw him some balls. Youknow what, I messed up and I
didn't take my backup tight end thatI thought was going to be the sleeper.
But I'm gonna take him anyway.I'm just not gonna draft a kicker
because I want to talk about him. But my back tight end that I
think is really low that shouldn't beso. Oh is Greg Doulcitch. Guy
had a really good year two yearsago and then it was injured last year

(01:37:05):
and now he's his second year anda Sean Payton system who tends to juice
tight ends pretty well. I mean, am I wrong for thinking Greg dolcis
as a sleeper? Mmmm? Likea late sleeper. I mean I took
him in the fucking sixteenth round.I mean it's whatever. If it pans
out, you look like a fuckinggenius. I mean I am a genius.

(01:37:29):
Shawn Watson in the in the sixteenthHow the mighty have fallen? That
guy was the number one fantasy quarterback, Well maybe not, but the number
one like in passing yards in theleague, like what four years ago?
He is? So I guess I'mnot taking a defensive player because I wanted
to talk about Greg Dulcisch. Butthis is my uh, this is my
draft, and I can can dowhat I want. Oh, we still

(01:37:53):
got a round left, but Istill didn't take kicker either. Oh so,
because I at Braylen Allen picked wassupposed to be Dullshi, but I
want to talk about dulls. Ithink he's a keeper. Jay. Did
you take a white running back?Yep, there's a white running back?
Yes, sir, No, that'snot allowed. That's not allowed here.

(01:38:15):
I have the power, Jay,Ready, Who do you got now?
Jay? Why did you draft willLove this? Ja? I wouldn't.
Why did you draft will fucking teammateruined my whole fucking last pick for me.

(01:38:36):
I can't believe that. I can'tbelieve you took will Love as Like,
what the fuck? Who does that? I can't believe you did that?
Dave? What's what's your last pick? Over there, Maddie ice bro
he's coming back after Deshaun Watson shipsthe bed there. He's gonna came back

(01:38:59):
and play for the fucking Browns andtake to the playoffs. It's Tim Tebow
still available. James would take TimTebow? Yeah, he would. James
would take Tim Tebow. I can'tbelieve teammate took videll me dallasas soon.

(01:39:23):
M all right, let's pull upyour rosters. I'll uh let me see
here I'll do James' for him,not his rosters, but his draft.
James took Jamier Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Mike Evans, c J Stroud,
t Higgins, Roman, Donza,Jake Ferguson, Jackson Smith and Jigba,
Devin Singletary, Romeo Dobbs, AaronRodgers, Jack Sharbonne, Rahet Shaheed,

(01:39:44):
Harrison, Bucker, Roman Williams,Taysom Hill and the Seahawks defense. I
think James did a great job,honestly, James Bawler, James have been
playing forever. Jay, you hadfirst overall pick. Let's hear your roster,
uh CMC, Travis Kelcey, NicoCollins, Alvin Kamara, Keenan Allen,
Jaden Reed, Dak Prescott, BrianThomas, Jonathan Brooks, uh Brian,

(01:40:06):
I just got shot in the ass, Robinson, Mike Williams, Ricky
Pearsall, John new Smith, RussellWestbrook, Wilson, Washington, Commanders,
Fairbain, and I didn't take alast pick because you've switched it out.
So I'm not saying I don't knowwhat you're fucking talking about. I have
no idea what you're fucking talking about. And then I was team six and

(01:40:30):
I took b Jon Robinson, DavanteAdams, Derrick, Henry Cooper, Cup,
Amari Cooper, Kyle Pitts, NajiHarris, Caleb Williams, key On
J. Coleman, Courtland Sutton,Trevor Lawrence, ric o'dondo, Antonio Gibson,
Johan Dotson, brayln Allen, GregDollshitch and the San Francisco fort Niners.
I like my fucking team a lotand zags. What did you end

(01:40:54):
up with? We ended up withA J. Brown, Kyron Williams,
Lamar Jackson, Traming Bride, AaronJa Owns, DeAndre Swift, Chris Godwin,
DeAndre Hopkins, Curtis, Samuel Mitchell, Musgrave Cousins, Roshawn Johnson,
Tucker Mitchell, and I forget whoyou apparently I have Mattie Ice now and
the does anyone I love my team? Does anyone hate their team? Love

(01:41:20):
their team? Men's okay, mine'sokay too. I was super juiced after
like my first three picks, andthen I don't know, it just went
south. I'll tell you what myteam taking after my first five. After
my first five picks, I wasjust like, this is going south,
real quick. People load up onthe running backs lately, and Fantasy football

(01:41:42):
team of five took five wide receivers. I'm sorry, Team five took five
wide receivers in a row. Some taking Bijon in the first round,
I was a little afraid, butI took and I took Derrick Henry in
the third. So I took tworunning backs in the first three rounds.
But my receiver still ended up asDavante Adams, Cooper cup A, Mari
Cooper like Courtland Sutton and Kean Colemanlike I'm I'm okay with that. I'm

(01:42:08):
totally okay with having Bijon, DerrickHenry and then Davante and Cooper cup I
love it, and then at Cooperand Marie Cooper and now she hears.
I think it came out great.So I was very, very very happy
with my draft. This was along episode, but we haven't done a
u We haven't done a draft yetthis year, so that was our first
team draft there, so longest episodein a while. Jay, thanks for
staying awake. Yep. All right, all right, Dave, you want

(01:42:30):
to plug anything you know you do? No, I'm good follow this podcast.
Do all the things guys, doall the things, guys. Thank
you to everybody that came on,came and hang on in the chat like
this is getting a little more funnow with the more people in the chat
and stuff. So uh. Andthen lastly, James, I'll put on
your one last text here of BigDick. Will Levis all right, guys,

(01:42:55):
thank you for joining the stream andenjoying the episode. Until then,
we'll see you next time, guys. Peace. The preceding presentation has been
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