96 | AFC and NFC East Preview - Fantasy Football Bros.

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Guy in every room. Oh boy, all right, so we
are here. We missed a week. I'm very busy apologize, guys.
So uh sad and bad news is we're probably gonna
have to cut our tight end preview episode. So I
know all the tight ends out there, they're puckering right
now and mad at us, but we're gonna have to
cut it, guys, all right, so sorry, Oh.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
No, yeah, oh darn you know.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
This is like the one year that tight end is
probably the deepest it's been since like I don't even know,
like ten years.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Maybe yeah, and maybe we'll maybe we'll still put up
the shorts of our rankings each but we're not going
to dedicate a whole episode to tight ends. So next week, guys,
we're gonna do our quarterback ranking episodes. So we're gonna
start off with a bang quarterbacks next week. I'm interested
to see where a couple people fall in rankings. Well,
we always keep debating Jordan Love and Brock Purdy. For

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some reason, we attached those guys at the hip I'm
interested to see where you guys have in relation Joe
Burrow and c J. Stroud because I heard something on
the radio. Uh, they're talking about fantasy football and they
were talking about Houston's defense. No, I'm sorry, they're talking
about Houston's offense and comparing it to Cincinnati's offense. And

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this guy, clearly his day some fantasy football expert, don't
know who he was, said, well, CJ. Stroud and the
Houston Houston Texans offense is way better than Cincinnati and
Joe Burrow ever has been. And I almost like choked. Now,
remember like two years ago when I was given Joe
Burrow a hard time saying everybody's on his dick way

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too fast. Guess who, guess who's the new one? But literally,
this guy said c J. Stroud is way better than
Joe Burrow has ever been. And you know, I haven't
been the biggest Joe Burrow guy, but come on, that's
a that's a stretch.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
That's pushing it.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, so it's interesting. So I want to see.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll give credit for
creditors due they started great for the season, but to
say that he came out and formed better than the
Bengals have ever been.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I wish I knew what fantasy expert this was could
but it was just kind of on and passing. So
that guy should be fired. But that's not what we're
here for. We are here to finish off our division
rankings with the a f C and NFC East, and
there's a lot of teams to talk about and a
lot going on, and we should just get right into it.

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You agree, guys, yes, sir, okay, So we're gonna start
in the a f C with is it four time
in a row? AFC East champions the Buffalo Bills. Is
it four years in a row?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Is yes?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Twenty twenty right, twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three, right, yes,
so four times in a row and we'll find out
at the end of the discussion if it's going to
be five times in a row or not. There's a
lot of commentary about how the Bills are going to
be awful this year. Let's see how we feel. So, Jay,
who are their key additions and resignings.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Wide receiver Kurz Samuel, wide receiver Matt Collins, linebacker Nicholas Morrow,
defensive line Austin Johnson, Edge, Dwayne Smoot, safety, Mike Edwards
wide receiver, MVS re signed Ajpanessa, Ta Kwan Jones and

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Taylor Rapp.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Okay, and we can we can pair that with some
pretty good, I feel, draft picks and Jay's cousin Keon
Coleman Cole Bishop, Wayne Carter and Ray Davis. But Adam,
they're giving the Bills a lot of guff about some
of their departures, so let's hear it.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean the biggest one obviously Spun Diggs. I
guess Jordan Poyer is kind of a big one too,
but I don't know. We'll see Mitch Morris, Swide receiverer,
Gabe Davis, Leonard Floyd, Tyre Dots and Dan Jackson, Tim Suttle,
Puma Ford and Mike Hi.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So definitely some big names that we lost, also some
old names that we lost. To be fair, and we
we've talked about it till we're blue in the face.
But this is the official episode. So they got a
free agency trades grade of C minus. I think that's
tough to agree with. I think the only reason it's

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so low is because they traded away Digs for a
second round pick. Next year, so it doesn't count this year.
If if that trade for Diggs was this year's second,
I think our free agency is like a B plus.
I think we had an excellent free agency.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I mean, if that's what they're grading it on, then.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, I guess, why why would I heard who
was that Dave? Why would it not be a B
or a B plus for free agency. I think they
did a good job in free agency.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I mean, I don't know. I think I think a
C is pretty average, and I think what they did
was pretty average. I mean, they brought in guys that
were needed. They didn't bring any huge names here, they
didn't bring any shockers and in nothing that wows me,
nothing that I'm like super excited about. It's just kind
of it is what it is. And I think that's
kind of the definition of average. Like, yeah, the C

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is probably what they should get.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I see, I think it's a B. I think they're
better at receiver overall. I think Digs is obviously the
best receiver, but we have the best receiving cores in general.
Now that we had one Digs as opposed to Curtis
Samuel and and well Kean Coleman bringing in and uh
I like MVS two. Plus they brought in Chase Claypool,

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who you never know, maybe he comes back to life.
Like I actually like the way the receiver room is
built now more than ever. Meaning, of course Diggs is
better than all these guys, but it's more of a
well rounded group. Don't forget about Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox,
and James Cook. So I actually really like this receiver court.
Josh Allen's gonna go back and he's gonna be looking

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for Curtis Samuel causing trouble in the slot. He's gonna
looking for Dalton Kincaid causing trouble in the slot, big
ass Kean coleman like fighting people on the outside, possibly
big ass Mac Collins or big ass Chase Claypool fighting
people on the inside. The possibility of Marquez veil does
scantling bombing down the field to possibly drop a pass.

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But that's that's Gabe Davis, right, I mean, there's no whatever,
You're not wrong. I mean I just think, like it's
a am I crazy Jay thinking this is a better
well rounded receiver cor than Josh Allen's ever had.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
It's yeah, I would probably agree that's probably the most
well rounded receiver court we've had for Josh Hown Do.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Any do you guys disagree with that at all?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
No, well rounded is probably the best way to say it.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate to say that this
is the best. And I wouldn't even say it's hard
to say it's the best. It is the most well
rounded as in terms of we needed a lot of
help at receiver, obviously, and we brought in a lot
of wide receivers to see if we can get that help.

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And it's just a matter of whether they live up
to what their potential is.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
And here here's another like comparable thing I have too,
and I mentioned it before, and I'm not saying those
are going to go off and win a Super Bowl.
But what happened the next two years after the Chiefs
traded away Tyreek Hill? Anybody little little thing called the
super Bowl? Two Super Bowl wins and at one time
NFL MVP the Chiefs are in the same boat. Would

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you rather have? I mean, what's a better receiver court
Tyreek Hill and fucking Nicole Hardman and Sammy Watkins or
what they have now with Rashie Rice, Hollywood Brown, Xavier
Worthy and missing one of them. Well, yeah, Travis Kills,

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but there's the oh Kadarius Tony but whatever. But I
mean they have a pretty damn good, well routed receiving corps.
So like, I think that's kind of like if you noticed,
I think the teams with the major with the major
players at quarterback are starting to be like, we don't
need that alpha receiver. Let's just have a well rounded squad. Josh.

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You know, they did it with Josh, They're doing it
with Mahomes. They seems like they're kind of gonna do
it with Joe Burrow. It doesn't seem like t Higgins
is gonna get his deal, and they still didn't give
Chase a deal yet. I think they'll give Chase a deal, but.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Lamar his entire career.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, I mean you're yeah, you're right. So I think
that's just the way they're they're kind of going.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Poor God, I'd never give him anybody.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
He's got Zay Flowers and he's just a two time
NFL MVP.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
You throw to Mark Andrews three hundred times or you
get benched, basically.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So talking about it, I'm interested to see if we
all have Josh's number one. Josh has finished as the
number one quarterback in fantasy football, what four out of
five years, and it would have been five out of
five if DeMar Hamlin didn't die, or or four out
of or three out of four. Either way, he would
have four in a row if DeMar Hamlin didn't die,
because he finished second place the one year by like

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twelve points and he didn't play one game. So I'm
interested to see if everyone puts Josh at first, which
would be playable? We have, we have and we'll find
out next week on the Quarterback Ranking episode. How we
feel about James Cook? I believe people are drafting him
around are at RB one, twelve or thirteen? How do
you feel about that? Jay Bowl? James Cook? How how

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do you feel about him going as possible RB one
in fantasy football?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I mean, he's gonna be the RB one, so, I mean,
I don't know I would I would probably say that
he's RB one material. I don't know if I would
pull the trigger on him at RB one though, personally.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Okay, it's it's that's where he finished. I believe he
finished right around twelve last year.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, I think he's probably in line the finish on
there again, and that's solely just based on the Bills offense.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
He's an RB two, you.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Have, Yeah, And I was just gonna say, I wouldn't
feel comfortable if I if my first running back off
the board was James Cook.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you're seem very confident that's in RB two.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Wise that day, do Dosne's car touchdowns? I mean that
that's just the fact of the matter. I mean, he's
a great player, he's electric. He's gonna get touches. I
think he's probably gonna get more touches than he did
last year, to be honest, because I think they're get
a little bit more committed to having, you know, a
little bit more of a workhorse running back. But for
whatever reason, the dude just doesn't score touchdowns and Josh

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is gonna scramble for like fifteen and like, I don't know.
I mean, if he's if you draft him as your
RB one, you're probably in a little bit of trouble.
A super super reliable RB two though, I mean, twelve
to fifteen points a game is every single game for
this dude is not out of reach.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you're you're kind of making my argument that I
do kind of feel comfortable for him as an RB
one And the reason is, like you said, once Joe
Brady took over, he started to take off. They showed
a real pension for running the ball with him once
Joe Brady took over. Now you're going into the whole
offseason with him and Joe Brady. They really didn't do
anything at RB two. Yeah, they drafted, They drafted his

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name Davies, Ray Davis. Yeah, they drafted Ray Davis and
kept Ti Johnson, So they didn't invest anything. It seems
like they wanted to be as they want him to
be a work horse, and they I feel the offensive
line got a little bit bigger and beefier. I feel
like adding those receivers that they're gonna be a bully.
They want to be a bully, and they want to

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run the ball down your throat. I wouldn't be surprised.
I wouldn't. I'm not gonna call it, but I would
not be surprised if James Cook is a top five
running back at the end of the season. I think
they're really changing the way this offense is gonna be
and he is going to be a focal point because
if they start pounding the rock with him and creeping
up those safeties, Curtis Samuel over the middle, fucking forget

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about it, Dalton Kincaid running right past the safeties. These
teams are gonna have a fit. And I think, I
think it's kind of what opened up I think it's
kind of what opened up Kansas City's offense once Pachecko
got going. And I think, I mean, we can all
agree that James Cook is a much more talented back
than Pacheck go. So if they follow that same path,

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I think it could be really good. So I'm interested
to you too when we get to the running back
rankings where we have him. But I would be comfortable
with him as a as my number one probably you
know later ten eleven, twelve. I mean, I would assume
that's where I'm putting him. I think he's got a
path for a lot of workload, and obviously he needs
to be drafted, so he.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Definitely needs to be drafted. Yeah, I just me personally,
I don't think I would be comfortable with him as
my RB one. If I can get him as an
RB two, yeah, I have no problem taking him. But
he is getting drafted early in drafts. As an RB one.
I mean, I don't disagree with any of the points
that you made, but again, we you know, I haven't

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seen enough out of Joe Brady and his offense. Yes,
we've seen, you know, what they wanted to kind of become.
But as far as I'm concerned, it's still the same
bills relying on josh Anel's arm. So, you know, and
I'll be happy if James Cook, you know, catches fifty
sixty balls this year.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, Dave Ken Dalton Kinkaid be this year, Sam Laporter,
can he just take over and maybe ascend to the
top of the tight end rankings next year?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Here's the thing, Sam Laporta, I don't think so. But
can Dalton kin Kaid be like an absolute monster this year? Yeah,
I think he could be. And I don't think the
thing with Laporta is you saw a lot of big
splash from him. I think Dalton Kinkaid is more of
that guy, like an Evan Ingram style where it's you know,
he might not have these huge thirty yard forty yard plays,

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but the dude could easily have games where he's got
like nine or ten catches all that go for you know,
eight or nine yards, and I think volume alone kind
of puts him in that conversation of easily being a
top five tight end.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
See I kind of I kind of think the way
you described him, I think the exact opposite. I think
Dalton Kinkaid is more athletic and faster than Laporta. So
if they decide to use him the right way, I
think so. But I don't think to agree with what
you're saying, is that's how they want to use him.
I think I think there is a complete possibility Dalton

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kin Kaid leads to the Buffalo Bills in receptions, yards
and touchdowns. I think it's totally possible.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I do agree with that. I just think he's going
to get their chunky. So I don't think you're going
to see a lot of splashes from Dalton Kinkaid of
like wow, that was a bomb thirty five yard touchdown,
you know. I mean, I think it's going to be
a lot of volume, and I mean that's not a
bad thing. I just think he's going to I think Laporta.
What I mean is like Laporta came on and just

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kind of like the hype was just insane, just to
see what was happening. I think Dalton kin Kaid is
going to go kind of the opposite route, where he's
going to very quietly be established as like a top top,
like a top five tight end.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Okay, all right, So Adam, which bills wide receiver are
you taking first?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Honestly, I would I would feel comfortable taking Curtis, Samuel.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Curtis, Samuel Firs. Does anybody have an opposite opinion of that?

Speaker 5 (17:58):
I think that's probably the safest.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, I think that would be my My safest pick
is Samuel. I don't feel comfortable with Shakir at all.
Sure he has glimpses and and you know, people love
him here, but I mean it's gotta be Samuel, I
think is. I believe he is your number one at

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the moment as far as wide receives go.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, I'm on the I'm in the Samuel. I'm on
the Samuel one too. What about you, dev What are
you thinking?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Coleman?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Okay? What Jay or I mean?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Of course Jay's always welcome on the team.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
D No.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
But I'm gonna take key on here. And the reason
here is why I've kind of switched a little bit, right,
is exactly what we were talking about this is kind
of the most well rounded receiving cores that Josh has
ever had, Right, So, I think if you draft any
of these guys, you're gonna be kind of rolling the
dice because they don't think any any of them are
going to jump up and establish themselves as an alpha

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wide receiver. You're gonna get a lot of games where
Curtis Samuel has twenty points. You're gonna get a game
where Keon Coleman's got twenty five points. It's just gonna fluctuate, right, So.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I do agree with that.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yea, what I'm I'm not. What I'm looking for here
is not consistency with the Bills wide receiver. I'm looking
for the big playability. And when the big playability comes
down to it, Kean Coleman is a beast and a
huge target and the dude that I think Josh is
going to look for in the red zone when he
needs to put it up there where nobody else could
get it. I just think if you're I think when

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you play a Bill's wide receiver this year, it's gonna
be a dice roll and you're gonna have to count
on end zone targets and touchdowns in order to get
points out of the position. And just for me, Keon
Coleman's that guy.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now I agree with you in a certain aspect of
that as well, that I think, out of all of them,
Keon Coleman has the absolute best chance of being an alpha.
When you said the word alpha, he has the absolute
best chance of being alpha except one minor little problem,
and that would be Sean McDermott. And shut the fuck up, rookie,
and sit the fuck down, You shit the fuck down.

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Nobody told you to catch three fucking touchdowns. You shit
the fuck down, rookie. So that's my problem and what
scares me of Keank Coleman. I love the guy, I
love the talent.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Here's the one thing with McDermott this year, he's his
hand is forced. He almost doesn't have a choice because
he just doesn't have the people and he doesn't have
the people in the room to make it happen, you
know what I mean. It's it's at some point it's
like you kind of have to do this, you have to,
like Coleman cook, because you don't you don't have any
other options.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
What scares me about Keank Coleman is Chase k Chase Claypool,
and mac Collins. These are well, honestly more Mac Collins.
And the reason why is he's just as big as
Keon Coleman. He blocks, He's one of the best blocking
wide receivers in the league. So he blocks well, he
does what the coach wants, and he's not a stupid
fucking rookie like you guys, do not be surprised if

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mc collins logs more stats this year than Kean Coleman.
Just don't be surprised with Sean mcdermot's fucking old school mentality,
just saying, I.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I think the Bills receivers are definitely worth drafting. I
like Dave said, it is going to be a dice
roll every week. I think it's going to be a
new wide receiver every single week. You know, before when
we had Diggs, when he first came to the Bills,
when we traded for him, like, we knew where the
ball was going. It was going to Digs, right, whether
you liked it or not, it was going to Digs.
He was catching over one hundred balls every year, you know,

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twelve fifteen hundred yards or whatever he ended up having.
You knew this year, it's going to be very spread out,
and you know, I might. I might every once in
a while, depending on matchups and who the Bills are
playing for all Bills player in my flex, if I
have them on my team, I wouldn't be surprised, if

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I wouldn't be surprised. If really, to be honest with you,
you don't see the Bills receivers go until very very
late in drafts.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh, they're going late. They're definitely going late.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, if they're drafted at all.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
So well, here and here's the thing to to to
add on to what you're saying, Adam, and then we'll
move on. Because it's the best three four quarterbacks in
the league, right Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, what Jalen Hurd's
Joe Burrow, We'll say c J. Stroud for all the
simps they have, they have, all of those quarterbacks have

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multiple receivers going in the draft before the Bills get
even one. You got both guys from Philly going in
the like first two rounds, almost three rounds. You got
both guys from Cincinnati going in the first like three rounds.
You got all three fucking guys from Houston going in
like the first four rounds, and I'm you know what,

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maybe it's kind of the same for Kansas City, but
but you still have probably Rashie Rice, Hollywood Brown, and
maybe Xavier You're Worthy going before the Bills guys. So
why would.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
You're definitely getting You're definitely getting Hollywood Brown before any
of those guys.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, so why would the Bills with Josh Allen? I
understand drafting them late. I guarantee you the one of
the two between Samuel and Coleman is going like in
the third or fourth route next year. And I guess
it just depends on who it shakes out to be,
because there's no way Josh Allen, who I think is

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the best quarterback in the league, but for Patrick Mahomes' sake,
I'll say the second best quarterback in the league. There's
no way that he won't have a top three or
four round receiver next year. There's no way. So, I mean,
we just got to find out who it is. I mean,
for all, we fucking know it's Chase Claypool, right, like we.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Don't know, so I mean honestly, and just yeah, I'll
be quick and then we can move on. But that's
the beauty of drafting these rights. Like I'm saying, I'm not,
You're gonna have a hard time finding the allphone and
it's gonna be a dice roll. But you're drafting these
dudes so late that there's no way that they're they're
hitting your starting lineup, you know what I mean. So, like,
regardless of who I get, whether it's Samuel, whether it's Shakiir,

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whether it's Coleman, I want a piece of this Bill's
offense just to have it stashed and see how it
all shakes out, because maybe you get lucky and you
grab the guy that ends up being the guy.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, Dave, does Shakir need to be drafted?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I think he does. I mean I think his rapport
with Alan, I mean, he's been there a while, he's
a he's a good wide receiver. It's like it's, you know,
am I going to prioritize Shakir over key On Coleman
or Curtis Samuel? Absolutely not. But if Shakir is there,
you know, in the late rounds, and I'm just kind
of fucking throwing darts, like why not, why not just

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get a piece of this offense?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
The last touch I'll put on this before we move
on is I think you can have Curtis Samuel play
the role relaxed Bills fans. He's not Stefan Digs, but
I think Curtis Samuel could play the role of Stephan Diggs.
Plus Curtis Samuel's electric when he runs the ball when
they you Jack sweeps, which that was more of a
Ken Dorsey thing, but still Curtse Hamler could do that.

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So I think you could have Curtis Hamill play that
role and Shakier played the role that Cole Beasley used
to play. And that's kind of the best time when
our offense was humming back of the day, when you
had those two plus Keyn Coleman on the outside, it
could be good. Very they tried to build it like
that back member when we drive, when we sign Emmanuel
Sanders and stuff like that, so like they've tried, But

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me and Adams saw Emanuel Sanders sing a song in Nashville.
We were in Nashville watching his brother's band, and Emmanuel
Sanders went up to sing. I don't remember what it was,
but he was singing some come what country song before
uh before country music superstar Eric Van Hount so so
country music superstar Eric Van Hound had Emmanuel Sanders open

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up for him. How about that.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
World legend legend day.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
In the music industry when you have Emmanuel Sanders open.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
All right, guys, let's move on to uh what some
people well recently, what's been the biggest threat to the
crown of the Buffalo Bills, And that'd be the Miami Dolphins.
And we are going to Oh my god, I forgot
they signed this one player. Okay. The Dolphins big signings
were Kendall Fuller, which is a good signing, Aaron Brewer,

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Jordan Ployer, which is a good signing because he's gonna
give up information no matter what anyone says. Jordan Brooks,
John hu Smith, Tier Tart, Anthony Walker Junior. This is
the guy I forgot about. They signed OBJ. Totally forgot
they signed Obj, Braxon Barrios and Isaiah Win.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I think they forgot they signed himself.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I told, did anybody remember that I forgot? No, I
totally forgot.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
So, and then they lost Christian Wilkins, which is huge,
Deshaun Elliott, Xavier Howard which is huge, huge, Van Ginkel,
Jerome Baker, Robert Hunt, Sidric Wilson, junior and Emmanuel Ogby.
So their free agency in JR. Draft grades were C
and C plus. But so what do we think adding Kellum?

(27:07):
But you know what, adding Kendall Fuller and losing David Howard,
that's a downgrade.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, I agree with that, and Christian Wilkins on the
d line is massive for them. I don't find them
as a threat as much anymore, and I never really
did think that they think of them as a threat
only because.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
They have Tua, the second richest quarterback in the NFL,
so be it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
But that doesn't mean he's good and listen to He's
not bad by any means, right, He's he's been the
top of the league. You know, maybe not for long,
but he's been up there. He has great weapons around him.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
But it's.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I don't all know what he can do.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I just also, like a throw out here, can we
just stop saying the highest paid person in the league,
Like we get it, guys. From now on, every quarterback
that has a pulse with a chance to get you
to the playoffs will now be the next highest paid
person in the history of the NFL. That's just how
it's going.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
So we don't have to say, oh, now the highest paid.
It's every fucking quarterback that signs a deal after today.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Just remember, guys, yeah, brock Party's next, right of course,
very next, He's next, and then who would be after that?
Fucking Will Levis Now you know, baby will love us.
I don't know if, because we have to talk about it,

(28:37):
is too vastly underrated. And I think he is vastly underrated.
He's nobody's putting him in the top ten to twelve quarterbacks.
As a quarterback one he led the league last year
in passing yards. Now a lot of people say he
needs to get more touchdowns. Of course, I am going
to make a guarantee right now. You guys can clip
this and put on the platform. Raheem Mostert is not

(28:58):
going to have eighteen touchdowns this year. I'm going to
put my name on it and say, Raheem Mostard at
thirty two years old, who has been broken every year
and had a good two year span, not having eighteen touchdowns.
So if Raheem Moster has half of that nine touchdowns,
they gotta be passing touchdowns or are they gonna go

(29:19):
to the running backs? Who knows? Tyreek Hill, Jalen waddle
wide receiver three is Odell Beckham. I mean that's something
and it's weird because Odell Beckham doesn't fit what they do.
So that makes me think like they might be changing
the way they want to do things and it could
be good. I mean, I think two is an underrated

(29:41):
quarterback for fantasy football this year. I think he is
every year. So I just the touchdowns. There's no way
they have that many rushing touchdowns. He I mean, fucking
raheem most at eighteen. How many did fucking eight chan
have like they had. They're not doing that much any
rushing touchdowns again, so either Tua picks up that slack

(30:03):
or they suck.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Right. I've had him as my starting quarterback in the
fantasy league, and he's your typical quarterback that you're gonna
get either forty points or you're gonna get ten points.
And in fantasy football, when you have a week that
he has ten points, very hard to win unless all
of your other players are just insane that week, which

(30:28):
is highly unlikely. So do I think he's underrated a
little bit?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I do. I think Two is better than people think.
I'm not a fan of him, and I'm of course
a little biased because I had him on him fantasy
team and that's exactly what I got. I got one
week where he threw five touchdowns and one week where
he threw four interceptions. It's like he's never consistent, and

(30:54):
in fantasy football you need a quarterback who can put
up consistent points to have any chance. Needless to say,
I haven't won that league in forever.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I just there's this weird disconnect I'm seeing with somebody
like Jared Goff and somebody like afore engined rock Party.
I could take these two guys. A lot of people
say that these guys aren't that great at quarterbacks, but
they have great weapons. So how is Tua any different?

(31:26):
I mean, like, Tua is not that great a quarterback,
but he has some of the best weapons in the league.
So like, I just think there's some disrespect on his name,
and I think you can have a worse Who's adam
who is going to be better at the end of
the football season and fantasy football points this year? Jared
Goff or Tua.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh Man. Jared Goff had a really good season last year,
and I think they finally figured it out. I have
to go. I'm gonna go ahead and say Jared Goff
on this one. I do. I think Jared Goff's gonna
have a better season. I think they are built more
for passing.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I see, I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I guess they're kind of built the same way as
a more mobile quarterback into it than they do it golf. Right, Well,
then let me I mean, I don't know. Maybe it
could be Tula, but.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, let me put the next question to zag Zags.
Who has the better weapons out of those two.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I mean, on paper, you would say that it's gonna
be Dua.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I mean that's what I'm saying here.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Like, here's the thing with Tua, right he I think
he just he's getting he gets drafted where he should
get drafted because he falls in that like crapshoot territory
with me, you.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It's like if you were to tell me that Week
one of the NFL season two is gonna have five touchdowns,
I'd be like, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Or if
you were to tell me two is going to go
for one eighty and one touchdown and three interceptions, I'd
be like, yeah, okay, that makes sense too, you know,
what I mean, like, it's just his ceiling and level

(33:07):
is in his ceiling and floor. The gap in between
there is so monumental and the number one thing with
Tua that people don't talk about enough. I'm a big
to a fan of having him as my backup, and
I take him a lot. For whatever reason, when it
really comes down to crunch time in the Fantasy playoffs,
this dude disappears. And that's that's why I think Tua

(33:27):
is always drafted so low, because the upside is there,
But for whatever reason would you really need him he
doesn't show up?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, there's a reason for that. It's called winter. That's
that's why. And and well, no, it's true. And that's
another reason to consider golf over him, even though who
has the better weapons. Is that golf plays like twelve
games a year and a dome, correct, So I mean
that's something. So Jay, are you on the same golf
over Tua? Yeah? I think so? Okay, all right, So Jay,

(33:56):
do you think do you think Rahim Mostart's gonna have
eighteen rushing touch us?

Speaker 5 (34:01):
I won't say eighteen, but I mean he still might
put up like ten, So how.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Is he going to put up ten? But people are
drafting a Chan in the second round like something's got
a gift. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
I mean if a Chan can stay healthy, I guess
then he's not gonna well.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Same thing with the start.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yeah, so I mean it's a crap shirt. It depends.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
They also drafted Jalen Wright in the third or fourth round,
fourth round, and he's the same fucking running back as
the other two fastest running back in the draft. Kind
of small.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I love that you brought this up, to be honest,
because I just want to say right now, I think
there is no player that has the biggest chance to
be a fantasy bust then Devin a Chanka. He is
drafted so high. And they absolutely love Moster. I mean
they they brought him in. And the thing you have
to remember about Moster is, yes, a lot of running

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backs fall off the cliff at thirty, but most played
a lot of hit his career as a backup. There's
not a lot of there's not a lot of wear
and tear on those tires. They like him. They drafted
somebody in the fourth round like you're drafting a chain on.
You know what you saw in like five games that
he put up thirty points, Like that's not gonna happen

(35:17):
seventeen games, you know what I mean. And you're drafting
him to be an RB one. If you're drafting him
in the first round or in the second round, you're
pretty much drafting a running back that you think has
a chance to finish in like the top five, if
not lead the league. You know what I mean, Like,
there's so much better talent around where Devin a Chan
is getting drafted. I just I think there is no

(35:39):
player that's hyped up other than Garrett Wilson, which we'll
talk about later. There's no player that's hyped up as
much as Devin h that has the possibility to just
be an absolute disappointment.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
And the last question I'll pose this to Adam is
Tyreek Hill w R one.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, absolutely, would he not be because.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
There's ce D Lamb, Because there's I mean, because.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
If we're talking because I thought I thought you meant
just on wide receiver, like or what I thought was,
could he be your wide receiver? One? Yes, of course
he draft Honestly, with the whole contract thing in Ceedee
Lamb holding out, I mean, you got to keep that
in the back of your mind. But I love I

(36:29):
love some CD Lamb. He won't meet my championship. But
so I'm a little biased there, But I mean, yeah,
I don't if somebody took Tyreek Hill over Ceedee Lamb
over Justin Jefferson Jamar Ches, good for them. I mean
they got a two thousand yards receiver.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, Jay, Who's your wide receiver number one right now?

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Probably Ceedee Lamb.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Are you going the same way, Dave?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
No, I'm going Tyreek.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You're going Tyreek? So Dave, then let me pose this
question to you. The top four wide receivers in fantasy
will go with them? Ceedee Lamb, Tyreek Hill, double j
Jamar right fair? Okay, who has the best quarterback out

(37:24):
of those?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I mean I'm gonna go Jamar. You know I love
me some Joey d Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I mean, I still don't understand the hate on Jamar Chase.
How he he he played? He misses four games last
year and loses Joe Burrow and still finishes as aide
wide receiver one, and people are taking Ceedee Lamb over him,
which fantastic season one season? Right, Like it just boggles
my mind. Like and obviously I love I love Ceede

(37:53):
Lamb too. He won me a championship too, But like
people are just like forgetting about Jamar Chase because he
didn't have Joe Burrow and still crushed it. So that's
my only like shock kick thing. But yeah, I mean,
if somebody takes Tyreka one, if somebody takes takes uh
Ceedee Lamb one, there's no complaints.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Ceedee Lamb had four good seasons in a row.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well no, it definitely was good, but I mean he
he had won outstanding, amazing season, like coming into nobody
was ever drafting. Yeah, nobody was ever drafting Ceedee Lamb,
even in the first round maybe the end.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Of the first wide receiver off the board.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, not even as a wide receiver five, not even
as a five.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
He had one good season.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
One really really good season. Yes, absolutely one really good season.
But even last year, Dave, I believe you took Ceede
Lamb in the third round in your league.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah it was super late.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, so like he was never viewed like that, but
like it's fine. He had his one great year, justin
Jefferson has had three great years. But now Lamb, I know,
people forget, they like, they like the news, and they
forget about draft the guy that finished first, and that's
I don't think that's the best option because it changes

(39:09):
all the time. Right, Well, we'll see. It's just that's
why I can't wait for a receiver episode, because there's
so many different options and I'm interested to see where
everyone puts. Everybody. It's like, Justin Jefferson just finished number
eighteen in the NFL's top one hundred. Why because he
got hurt. He's been the best receiver in the league
for three years and now he's almost out of the
top twenty. It's wild to me, that's.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
How the works.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah, what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I mean at the at the off season last year,
everybody was about ready to put Justin Jefferson the fucking
Hall of Fame, and like, he gets hurt and they're like,
you know what, I might take Am and Russe and
Brown over Justin Jefferson. Like what.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Just just wild to men.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Let's move Let's move on to uh, let's move on
to the New England Patriots and just get through that.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
We don't have we don't have to talk about these guys.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Let's get through it quickly. They brought in kJ Osborne.
They brought in Antonio Gibson, They brought in Austin Hooper,
Jacoby Brisquette, resigned Kendrick Bourne. They lost Or They brought
in Drake May, Jalen Polk, they lost Mike Giseki, they
lost DeVante Parker, and they lost Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Jacoby Brissette has a shot to be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
I think he will be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, Dave, what what have you heard about training camp?
And Drake May?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I mean, May has looked terrible all throughout training camp.
But I'm gonna be honest, you look, I was never
high on him anyway. I mean, I just yeah, I
think I think they drafted the player that I thought
that they drafted. And Jacoby Brissette has always been a
solid quarterback. He's never been a guy that you feel
comfortable is going to take you to Super Bowl, but
you can you can win a playoff game with him.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Now are people Are people sleeping on Ramandre Stevenson?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, Absolutely, we're totally sleeping on Mormandrius. They got a
defensive head coach, a rookie possibly quarterback or a new quarterback.
You don't think they're gonna fucking pound the rock.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
People, come on, what about your guy Antonio Gibson, though, that's.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
The other guy they're sleeping on that. Antonio Gibson is
a Patriot number two running back. Danny Wood, had Shane Veren,
James White. Antonio Gibson is a Patriot way wide receiver
number two. And here's another guarantee IM gonna make wherever

(41:37):
Antonio Gibson's getting drafted, I don't know, running back thirty
thirty six, he's gonna be better than that now. I mean,
I'm not gonna say anything major, but there was times
that like James White finished like quarterback running back like fifteen,
and he wasn't even the starter. Like, I just think
Antonio Gibson fits into the way the Patriots like to

(41:57):
play football really well as their number two.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
You've been you've been forming with Antonio.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, I don't think he's I just I just did
a mock draft a couple of days ago, and nobody
took Antonio Gibson.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So running back forty nine. You heard it here first, folks,
Antonio Gibson is going to finish the season better than
running back forty nine. Lock it up, baby, you've.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Been feeding us this BS Antonio Gibson hype train for
like three years now and it hasn't panned out.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
His first two years he was in RB one. Brouh.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
You know what it's you know what the problem with
Antonio Gibson was, he didn't get shot in the ass before.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
It's true exactly, but honestly, but when I came back
and had true but the start him. Yeah. But what
I said about Anthony Gibson, I really mean it, Like,
don't forget about him, folks. He is the perfect Patriots
RB two everybody was drafting I don't even remember, and
James White finishes like RB fifteen everybody's drafting ben Javers,
green Ellis and Danny Woodhead just comes out of nowhere

(42:57):
and catches all these passes like it's their kind guy
Lawrence Maroney, here comes Shane Vereen catching all these passes
like just it's kind of like what the Patriots do. So, uh,
those are the only people I care to talk about
anybody else on the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
No, I don't do the Patriots. There are no threat
to the AFC East.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Okay, moving on next, this is gonna be the fun one.
We're gonna move on to the new York Jettisons, the
New York Jets, the New York Chets. They brought in
Hassan Raddick, good signing, Mike Williams good signing, Tyron Smith
good signing, Morgan Moses good signing, Josh Simpson, Isaiah Isaiah Oliver.
Thomas Moore said, Greg Zerlin didn't even know they brought

(43:38):
in Legatron. They they've drafted there. Maybe they resigned him.
Oh that's right. The Jets, Malachi Corley, Braylan Allen. They
lost McKai Beckton, who was kind of a bust, Quentin Jefferson,
who is into the good one. It's Quinnin Williams is
the good one. Jordan Whitehead who was just known for

(43:59):
picking off Josh Shanlon. Motherfucker. They really did a good
job building that offensive line. And they have a very
young athletic quarterback, right.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I mean they will be.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah, we still got to give in his mind. He's young.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I'm sorry, we gotta go. We got to give him
some respect. He's got a fantastic offensive line now, so
he should last long. But lock it down, folks, the
last minutes. So Aaron Rodgers plays more this year. Lock
it down right now, that's the lock of the week.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You better take it easy on that because I don't
know if he's out today, but report side of training
camp as he's having some issues with the with some
pain in that foot.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well, they built a good offensive line around him. I
actually like what they did. I think Garrett Wilson and
a hopefully not injured Mike Williams is a pretty good
one two punch. Honestly, I do. I do think it's
a good one two punch. And then Brice Hall was
fucking fantastic last year. I do worry about him a
little bit now. He was fantastic last year with checkdown mister,

(45:16):
mister Zach Wilson. Is he going to catch as many
passes from Aaron Rodgers? Is Aaron Rodgers going to throw
the ball to Jay? Look up Aaron Jones, Jay, look up?
How many like receptions Aaron Jones had over the past
five years with Aaron Rodgers. Just because that's it, that's
an interesting one. I mean, I think of Aaron Jones

(45:37):
as he catches passes, but I don't think it's like
what Brice Hall did. I could be wrong about that,
So it does give me slight concern on Brice Hall,
but not like a major concern, Like I'm not dropping
him out of the top three running backs, but like
I do, I do think about it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
To be honest, I'm dropping him.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
You're dropping him.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I am, whow dude. I like he had a great season.
He did, but I just I don't know for my
gut just says, don't believe it. I just I just
feel like where he's getting drafted, I would just feel
more comfortable going elsewhere.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
So from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two, he had
do you want targets or do you want receptions?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Give me the receptions.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Forty nine, forty seven, fifty two, fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
So I mean, good but not insane. Brice Hall had
seventy six receptions last year. That's huge, right, A lot
more than That's a lot more than Aaron Jones. That's
almost double some of those years.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
And I don't I don't think Aaron Rodgers coming back
to this team makes is any better for Brece Hall.
I mean, and if anything, I think that hurts his value, well.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Doesn't help his running. And the reason I say that
is because he only had he had less than a
thousand yards rush. Last year, he only had nine hundred
and ninety four yards cook Basically.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
He barely played the first four.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Games, right, but he most of his production was in
the receiving game. He had nine hundred and ninety four
yards rushing, five touchdowns. He had seventy six receptions for
six hundred yards and four touchdowns receiving.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
What's his yard per carry?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It was pretty good, Actually it was four point five.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Four point five, Yeah, it was pretty I just don't
think that's sustainable for him.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
But does it loosen up the box for him with
Aaron Rodgers coming back? I don't know who does, honestly.
I mean, I don't know if Aaron people are scared
of Aaron Rodgers like that anymore. I don't know. I
really don't.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I don't love it. I mean, he's getting drafted consensuously
as the number three running back off the board, but.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I wouldn't say consensus. It's either him or Bjeon as
two or as two, but they go back and forth.
I see Brie a lot over Bjeon, which I think
is silly.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Okay, So yeah, right there, you're taking Bjon over Bresaw.
Let let's look at it a here Bresall or John
and Taylor? Who would you rather have?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
So scary, But I guess Breece. I mean, and I
like JT, but the explosion gets me. I'm taking Breece
over Jonathan. I'm taking Breece over the only one that
would put up there for me, and I know it's
gonna be laughed at, is Taquon. I might put Saquon
over Breese, but honestly, right now, I'm taking Breece, I think,
over Saquon Gibbs. I'm taking I'm taking Breece over You're

(48:29):
taking Breeze over Gibbs.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, Derrick, Henry, Karen Williams, you're taking him over all
those guys.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, He's probably three for me. There's a chance he
goes down to four and Kwan goes to three. But
I mean, you know how much I love Kwan, but like,
Breece is probably gonna be three because he is explosive
and he and he's another year off of that injury,
and he had seventy six receptions last year. But there's
fear in me that he doesn't. I mean, Saquon Barkley

(48:55):
put up a top twelve season last year with the
worst offensive line in football, no quarterback play. Now he's
going the team that has the best offensive line in
football and his all star quarterback. So that makes me
giddy about it. And I still might take Breese. So
I have done. I have done plenty of mock drafts.
He goes two or three. I mean, I'm not taking
them fifth. Has anyone taken them lower than like four?

(49:18):
Are you? Dave? I mean I might.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I honestly, I really might, because I just I think
there's just I don't know, he's setting you up for disappointment.
Last season was so good that I think that like
him having the ability to recreate that is going to
be really tough.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Well, I know how Adam work, really.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Do I think it's gonna be really, really tough.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I know how Adam works. Adam had him last year.
He loves him. He's probably taken him two or three, right,
I just of course that's how you That's fine, and
that's okay. No, I would no really surprises, no, because
you love your that was your you know. I just
I just know that you love your guys.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Well, I mean, yeah, he was on my championship winning team. Sure,
But for Brie, I mean, yes, he had a great season.
Of course, if that's what you based fantasy football off
of most of the time, right, you look at it
and go, oh my god, this guy was running back
two for the year or whatever. Okay, this is acceptable
for me to take him as the second running back
off the board, because we all know Christian McCaffrey is

(50:25):
going first. So am I taking Bruce Hall over Jeon?
Probably not might take. To be honest with you, I'm
gonna go crazy here and I'm taking Kyron Williams. Dude,
I don't give a fuck what you say about Kyra Williams.
That motherfucker played so good, and I don't give a
shit about play Corral.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Because let me paint like, let me paint it out
for you the way that it gets drafted. Right, would
you rather have Breece Hall and let's say, Deebo Samuel
or would you rather have Jamar Chase and Iran Williams.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Honestly, if it was me, obviously i'd take Chase. I
probably wouldn't end up with Kyrien, but yeah, i'd probably
go Chase and Kyron.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
You would probably end up with Chase and Barkley. I
didn't give you Barkley because I knew it would be
an automatic, but that's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I would take Chasing Kyron, but I have Kyraen a
little lower, so I might end up with Chasing. I
don't know whoever else is their Gibbs or something, but
you know what I'm saying, Chase, I'm taking over Breese Hall.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I'm just saying, like, if you you know the way
that the drafts work out, if you take Brishall in
the first you just just every way that I play
this situation out, I would rather have the ladder, like
I would rather not have Breshall use that first pick
on someone else, because coming back around, I feel like
the one two punch that you end up with is
always better.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Here's my thing too, about the draft. If I'm drafting
in the first five picks, I'm probably taking a wide receiver.
I'm drafting in the last six, seven picks, whatever. If
I'm in the back half the first round, I'm taking
it running back.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
All right, Very fair, Jay, you didn't really talk about
you about b Now.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
It's just the way it goes. Like wide receivers in
a PPR league are gonna go crazy. You're gonna get
Ceeney land Tybreek killed Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson off the
board in the first four picks. And the only reason
why I said first four pick, well, we'll say the
first six picks right at the beginning half of the
first rounds, because you're gonna take Christian McCaffrey in there somewhere,

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So there's your first five picks maybe.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
And I want to point out before Jacobs's answer that
since in his rookie year and last year, me and
Jay were very anti Breese Hall. So I came around Jay,
did you come around yet?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
I'm fifty to fifty and only because we don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
It's so much uncertainty, like as Rogers coming back, is
he gonna be able to be slinging the ball like
he wants to so that means last work for Brees
Or is he gonna be, you know, looking like Peyton
Mannings throwing ducks up there and they're gonna end up
running more or something. It's I don't know. It's it's
hard to say.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Well, you said duck, so I got the goose draping.
I just wanted to point that. So, Jay, you you've
been very open about not hating but being down on Bejeon.
Are you taking Breeze or Bjon? Uh?

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Are you taking Kyrin above those guys?

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Fuck? Yeah, I am Yeah, buddy, I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Guy that is so is my guy. Man. He had
a great season season.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I traded for Kyron Williams so early on in seasons
if I didn't end up having him on my team
from waivers. He is my keeper in three out of
my my five leagues.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I mean, I can I cannot argue he had a
great half a season like their second half of the year,
he was awesome. I can't argue that. But like to
take him over those guys, I mean, he didn't have
a good year at all, more than Breese Hall, not
even close. So like it's what, it's just okay, I mean,
it's just a it's a wild Okay, you're you're you

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are very much allowed to think somebody's going to be
better than they were last year. So that's fine.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Took different than you ride in Saquon's dick every year, So.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I mean, are riding Bijon's dick, So totally fine, Okay, cool.
So that's it for the FCS. We're gonna go over
the NFCS. I think this will be a little quicker.
Half of this discussion was about the Bills, So I
think this will be quick because there's only a couple
of people to talk about. Actually that's the Dallas Cowboys,
so major their key additions. The only one to really
talk about is bringing back Zeke. They lost Pollard, they

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lost Tyron Smith, they lost Michael Gallup. They didn't do much.
So bringing back Zeke I put Zeke right where he
was last year, like like a top twenty six running
because just because he's got a pulse and he's a
technical starting running back on a team. So like he's
going to be drafted, he's going to be an RB three,
maybe four. That's about it. I mean we already kind

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of touched on where Cede Lamb's going their safety and
Cede Lamb in the top five picks of the draft,
right yep. So what about the disrespect of Dak? Why
is Dak going number nine when he was like I
believe QB won last.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Year because as Dave puts it, Dak is a fantasy
playoff bone. I mean, they make it to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
He brought me and you championship last year.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
No cd lamb brought me a fucking championship last year.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Both Yeah, me too. We had the same time throw
a quarterback in there. It was great. I think there
is disrespect with Dak.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Like I've always I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Why is rocking above Dak? Why is Brock Purdy going
above deck? Because he's the truth, that's a good question.
Why is Brock Purty going to do? And if we
want to want to pick on Brock Pardy, why is
c J. Stroud going above deck? Why is Jordan Love
going above Dak? Maybe because but Dak finished above them
last year.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Here's my thing, dude, I'm a big proponent of not
taking a quarterback early. Okay, because everybody drafts quarterbacks so early,
you're getting Josh Allen, Mahomes, Hurts, Lamar all off the
board in like round three and four. Sometimes if you're
I've seen Josh Allen go in the first round. I've
seen Josh Allen go in the second round.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
All the times in Buffalo. He's definitely going first round.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
People will just want Josh Allen, but and rightfully so,
he's the number one quarterback in fantasy. The last we
said it earlier, but dude, give me Dak Prescott in
the tenth round. Please, absolutely, yeah, Please let me have
Dak in the tenth round.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Jay, you're really gonna draft rock Party over Dak Prescot?

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Probably not. I just want to annoy youre.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I know you figured, but like come on, like people
are but like that's wild for sure, but brock Perty
does have better weapons.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
But also also like uh like value wise too, like
if you're I would rather take Dak in the tenth
round than take brock Perty in the fourth round.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
No, it's their close, like if.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
They're Yeah, but I'm saying like ifs like the hype
is there, like someone's gonna reach for brock Party probably,
especially like when QB start going so like value wise,
like I would rather get a better player in the
fourth round than someone who's gonna be like, oh, I'm
gonna take rock Party right now.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
And that's the thing. I completely agree with you. The
minute somebody takes a quarterback, everybody's immediately like, oh shit,
I got a good quarterback, because then you're gonna you're
gonna see Josh Allen Bill and then immediately you're gonna
see Jalen Hurtsamar Jackson right back to back to back
to back, and it's like, why you just wasted? Like
Deebo Samuel is sitting there in the fourth round like craziness.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Guys, I have a little I'm a little nervous. Zag's
is awfully quiet on this right now. So he's got
something like and I'm wondering.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
What it is, right, I mean, I think the problem
with Dak is we've seen him be really awful and
that's that's why he's being ranked where he is. I mean,
think about it this way. If you if you look
at Dak Prescott, he had statistically his best season ever
last year. Correct, Yep, he's still finished his QB four
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Four?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Really?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, I think he finished at like four or five.
So we've seen kind of the best of the best
and it still wasn't good enough. But we've also seen
him be really really horrific, you know what I mean.
And I think that's you got to have that in
your mind, like we've to defend Dak. He was three, okay, three,
so I mean still we statistically his best season ever

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with a number one wide receiver in fantasy and still
finished at three. Right, So and like I said, we've
seen him be really really bad, so I think that's
why he is where he is, and I think that's
probably a good spot for him. If we're gonna be
honest when it comes to qbs, my magic number is eight.
I have eight guys in my KB rankings that if
I leave the draft with I feel very confident about.

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And then after that the rest is a total crap
shoot from like eight to twenty. Okay, Dak does not
fall in that eight. He does not. I if I'm
leaving my bealf with Dak Prescott as my QB one, fine,
but I'm not feeling like super juiced about it.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I'm the same, like I'm happy with it, but like
not doing backflips.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Here's my thing, the cowboard. Their defense is so good
to the number one scoring defense in the league, so
when Dak is bad, you know their defense is the
ones scoring touchdowns. Prime example, last game in the season,
they score forty points against the Giants, Dak Prescott had
one hundred and forty three yards passing.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
He did awful against the Bills too.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Yeah, his game against the Bills, he had one hundred
and thirty four yards in one interception.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I remember that game because I had Dak in one
league and Josh Allen the other and they both were awful.
I always remember that game. So it's interesting with Dak.
We'll see our rankings. And the last one that really
mentioned before we move on is the tight end. Jake Ferguson.
You know, people are hyped on him. Guy finished ninth
last year championship. There's a room for improvement there. I mean,

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and in argument, Dalton Kincaid finished eleventh last year. So
but it's just weird to see that. Like Jake Ferguson is, like,
people are hype on him and he finished behind Cole
Comette last year. That just blows my mind actually, like it,
just didn't consider it, think about it. But he's definitely
a top ten option going in. But no, Dad, you're

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not putting him like top five or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Come on, Jake Ferguson. Oh no, I'm just saying he
was on my championship winning team. I'm just he's no
big deal, right, He's a great He's a viable option
for sure. And then and tight ends. You know, we
always hate on the tight end position because you have
your five guys right that are good and everybody every
tight end. After that, you're just hoping, it's a hope

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and a prayer that they're going to get some sort
of volume to help you put at least ten points
on the board for your tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah, pretty true. All right, let's move on. We've got
a couple more teams to talk about. We got who's
up next here, We've got the New York Giants. Let's
move through this very quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
They have brought in Drew Locke and Isaiah McKenzie and
Alan Robinson what yeah, guy, and Devin Singletary and Milik
Neighbors and they lost Kwan and yeah, and they lost Tyrod.
You know, I'm I'm still hopeful on Fantasy football wise,

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Daniel Jones, wise of being resurrected and being top like
thirteen fourteen quarterback. I think I think he could do
worse with Daniel Jones as a backup. But I mean
he he had a top ten season two years ago,
started off shitty last year and got hurt. Guy needs
a little one more chance with Brian Dayball. His first
year with Dayball, he was a top ten option. So

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but he's not gonna be in my top ten twelve
thirteen anyway. He might be one of my higher backups.
Nobody really likes him here though, Devin Singletary is coming in.
He's had a good couple of years. He's the number
one option. They have nothing else, Like is he getting
slept on a little bit? Jay?

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Probably?

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I mean, and like he wasn't bad for the Bills,
Like obviously he didn't score as much as you would want,
but like he had really high yards per carry.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
And all that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
So and now, yeah, you're right, no one's behind him,
so they got nothing. So like he's got to produce.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, and uh and and zags if you remember quickly
pretty short towards the end of the season, Devinitary was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I mean, Singletary was great. I think people are sleeping
on Singletary right now, getting drafted right around what RB thirty,
so not even not even in RB two. He's an
RB three. I mean, this dude's a starting running back
and going with day ball, going with day ball. Where
if I'm not mistaken, Dabele was around when Singletary was
our RB one, right, so there's a reason why he

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was brought over. I mean, Dable likes Singletary. There's nobody
behind him, like you said, and I just, you know,
to think that this dude isn't going to finish as
an RB two off volume alone is kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, I agree with that he's being slept on, but
their their first major asset that's going to be drafted
Adam is rookie receiver ma Leak Neighbors. This is one
of the most exciting receiver prospects that I can remember
in a while. I know everyone and everyone, and everyone
likes and granted Marvin Harrison more and that's fine, But
Marvin Harrison, by the way, he's going like in the

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second round wild as a rookie, But did you know
the Leak Neighbors is getting drafted like the third or
fourth round. He would be the highest rookie drafted wide
receiver in Fantasy football history if it wasn't for Marvin Harrison.
So like, this guy's got a lot to live up to.
But I love the talent, so pulling a trigger on

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him on the third is tough for me. Him coming
down to the fourth or fifth, I feel you could
do a lot worse than myleik fucking Neighbors in the
fourth and fifth round. When you're pulling out maybe I
don't know Roshie Rice, who could be great, of course,
but he could be suspended when you're throwing out even
though I love him. Keenan Allen, who's in a who's
in jumbled mess over there. So like I'm I'm big

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on I'm big on my leak neighbors so and I
know the price is steep, but you gotta do what
you gotta do. You guys are a little more anti
rookie so, but talk about no competition whatsoever, no competition.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I think he's going too high. And this is uh,
this is one hundred percent not talking about Neighbor's skill.
I think he is just an absolute freak of an athlete.
This is one hundred percent just his situation. I realize
he's stepping into a wide receiver one role with his
zero competition. But Daniel Jones, I'm sorry, dude is just horrific.

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He is horrific. He is absolutely awful. And I've seen
you know, footage come out of camp him just overthrowing, underthrowing,
missing wide receivers like he's absolutely terrible. And I know
you talk about Daniel Jones being a decent fantasy quarterback,
which I'm not going to disagree with you on but
a lot of that has to do with the fact
that he takes off a lot for whatever reason, even
though he's not super athletics. So like, I don't know

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to draft a guy in a third round when I'm
looking at Daniel Jones as being I'm relying on Daniel
Jones to make this guy great. I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
But people make that missio so many people like people,
people make that mistake with Myleague Neighbors, Mileague Neighbors. I'm sorry,
not my league Neighbors. And Marvin Harrison's going in the
first or second round and he's got Kyler Murray. What
about Davante Adams? He's going in the second round with
fucking Aiden O'Connell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Yeah, but the problem with that is these guys have
proven caner Minshew?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Please, Kyler Murray, what about Olave? What about Olave going
with Derek Carr? Like, I mean, it's Milik Neighbors is
a way better wide receiver prospect than Olave?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
But Aid no, Okay Aid and O'Connell has sustained DeVante Adams,
Kyler Murray made it work with DeAndre Hopkins. Like, who
has Daniel Jones made a wide receiver one in his
entire career. I can't think of one name.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Oh so, one thing too, is that like all the
teams know that there's no competition besides Milik neighbors, so
they're just gonna double them up just because they're gonna
force them to go to other people and they don't
have shit to throw to. So it's like they're just
gonna be like, Okay, go try and throw to neighbors
because we want to force you to throw to someone else.

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So that's gonna be an issue as well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Sometime, did you guys see I can't remember who it
was who said this, but there was an analyst that
had parents talked to a former Bills receiver, uh that
was saying that Daniel Jones is way more accurate than
Josh Allen. And then the next like cut to the
video was like him missing a five yard out route.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Josh Josh Allen was very inaccurate when he was younger too,
until day Ball got a hold of him. That's what
makes it. That's what makes me feel that there's something
in Daniel Jones that could be had. But that that's
the only thing. I mean, I said it from the giggle.
Danale Jones reminds me of Josh Allen as a young
Josh Allen. Can he put it all together right? That

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that that that's and and and he made it work.
I'm sorry, he meaning day Ball made it work right.
So that's the only reason I have any like. Okay,
So I just brought up my my most recent mock
draft here, just from eleven days ago. So Malik Neighbors
went in the middle of the fourth round, okay, and
here's who went after him. So so actually it's a

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little higher than I expected because we say middle of
the fourth round. But he got He's got to be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty twenty one. He's a twenty second receiver drafted. So
that's pretty deep already. It's just that receivers are going
like crazy. So he was drafted after Cooper Cup and

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Jalen Waddell and Michael Pittman, but he was drafted before
DK Metcalf, Davante, Smith, Tank Dell. I mean looking in there,
I mean there, I think that's a good group to have.
DK Metcalf. It's kind of in the same boat. He's
had a great season, but he's he's kind of got
no quarterback and been whatever. Defonte Sumid that field. That's
a little late, but he's a wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Two.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Tank Dow's a wide receiver three now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
So it's just been Yeah, I think you make the
argument over Dell, but I don't know. If I'm gonna
be perfectly honest, I'd feel more comfortable with the with
mi Calf.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
I'd feel un comfortable with Smith. Metcalf's iffy for me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah, Smith, I'd feel more comfortable with Smith over neighbors.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
And then even after that, Higgins wide receiver two, Zay
Flowers done nothing yet, George Pickens, done nothing yet. Amari Cooper,
who I feel is tremendously disrespected, Keenan Allen and Kirk
Christian Kirk so like, I think he's getting drafted in
the right area. But I mean, what do you are
you taking most of those guys over him. I'm not
taking most of those guys. I'm probably taking Smith. I

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don't know about Ellen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I'm taking Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Yeah, dude, Allen went twelve picks later.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Absolutely steal, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Steal this year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Fourteen picks later. The problem is is Keenan Allen is
their number two, possibly number three. Who knows how good
the rookie's going to be. So I mean that that's
the scary part of Keenan Allan. That's all, you know.
I'm the biggest Keenan Allen stand there. So I understand
and I don't understand. George Pickens loves is the wife
listening Jaim.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Speaking of did you guys see Russell Wilson slapped the
shit out of Justin Fields today? No, there was a
they were doing practice today and Justin Fields threw a
touchdown and looked at Russell Wilson and said, you're the
most expensive backup quarterback in the league, and she'd be
taking subway sandwiches at Subway. Russell Wilson slapped the ship

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out of him, unmited.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That's awesome, that's great, that's awesome, very very well done.
All right, let's move on two more teams to talk about.
We said this is gonna be a quick episode. We're
fucking liars, but we're right, We're right on where we've been.
So we're gonna talk about the Philadelphia Iggles. Very good
last year until the end of the season, until the

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Bills lost to them last second, and then they kind
of went downhill after that lost of the fucking Buccaneers
in the playoffs. Yeah, they're big signing obviously Saquon Barkley.
They also brought in Paris Campbell. They brought in DeVante Parker.
Did not know that, to be honest, but I don't
think it matters.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Actually, I'm pretty sure he retired.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Okay, well it says I think he did retire. He
just recent retired, I believe, okay. And then and then
they brought in and then they lost nobody big on
the offense to talk about other than Marcus Mariota. But
of course, as always, don't you. I bet you're correct
you because that's that's very important. Good call, Swift. But

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they upgraded, But you're right, Deanders have been gone. But
I do feel sa Quon's an upgrade. But free agency
track trade grade of course, a draft grade A plus,
overall grade A plus. It's the fucking Eagles. They always
do everything right. Is anybody taking Is anybody taking Jalen
Hurts Number one? No, no, no, no, same, is anyone

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taking somebody else? Number two?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Possibly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I mean, it's hard to argue, but I don't know.
You probably could make the case, but like I think,
I think Hurts is kind of locked in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I'm gonna make the case right now, make the case
right now for you. I'm taking somebody over well probably
no no official rankings till next week. I'm not gonna
be surprised if Jalen Hurts is my number three four.
Like the reason being, I truly believe, and Adam just
touched on it, that he is not getting all those

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rushing touchdowns. He's gonna have a bunch, but he's not
getting all those rushing touchdowns. Why would you give all
that money to say Kwon Barkley and you lost the
man that made it happen with the Touchbush, I feel
that play was about seventy percent Jason kelcey thirty percent
Jalen Hurts. I really do feel that with the with
my soul, so with him losing all those touchdowns, it's

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still gonna be a good quarterback. I just think someone's
gonna jump over him. I think that someone could be
Patrick Mahomes. I might have Mahomes as my number two.
I might have Anthony Richardson as my number three, but
I'm not there yet. So right now, off the top
of my head, I'm having Hurts his three. There's nothing
that Hurts can do that Anthony Richardson can't running the ball,
so that's the But Hurts has the better weapons and

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the better offense right now, so that's why it's there.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Patrick Mahomes is my
number two. But you do not lose, you don't lose
Jason Kelcey, and you bring in Saquon Barkley to shove
Hurts up the middle for all that to get him hurt.
I truly believe that. I truly believe that. So but

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he'll be three or four. Both receivers. My cats are
fighting or something. Knock it off. I'm getting a little
over Aj Brown, man. I'm sorry, over the wrong word.
I'm getting a little like I rolly on Aj Brown,
Like people are starting to take Aj Brown in like

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the top seven picks of the fantasy football draft. I
just think that's wild. I really think that's wild.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
I'm seeing Aj Brown go over people we've talked about,
like Bijon and Breise hall.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I just think like this receiver warship is like getting
out of control. I you look at AJ Brown, He's
got great stats. I do not in this league and
this year, this last mock draft, and mind you, this
is eleven days ago. AJ Brown went ninth overall, ahead
of Jamiir Gibbs, ahead of Jonathan Taylor, ahead of saquon

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a set of ETM so like man this he so
he went one, two, three, four, five, six. He was
the sixth receiver in ninth overall. I mean, are you
guys taking AJ Brown in the top like eight picks?

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Do you? So?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Do you tier out your wide receivers?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Is AJ Brown in your tier one? No? See, AJ
Brown is the last wide receiver in my tier one,
and I think for a lot of people he is.
And I think that's why you see AJ Brown getting
drafted early, because when those top five wide receivers come
off the board, it's like, if you want kind of
that tier of wide receiver, he's your last option and
you better grab it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Looking at it off the top of my head, I
got AJ Brown as the number two receiver in my
tier two. I have the number one receiver in my
is and tier two is amen Ron I don't put
Amen round tier one and I don't put AJ Brown
tier one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
But see, yeah, you're all right there. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. I feel like you could probably tear
him out the way that you have him tiered out,
but I just kind of have him teered out the
top six and AJ Brown is the last guy. So
that's why I think he goes higher because those first
five come off the board. You're just like, yeah, if
I want a Boss wide receiver, like that's the one
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
And then Puka went tenth. Overall, this receiver worship's going
crazy to me. You guys, you two are a little
quiet on AJ Brown and the top epix, Like, come on, man,
somebody have indicated me, because that seems wild to me.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
I can see it both ways, Like Dave said, like,
if you're looking like, if you have him kind of
lingering between your tier one or tier two, you're probably
gonna take them a little bit earlier than most people
would if you want that tier one type wide receiver.
So but I can see him being in the tier

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two and you're thinking that's too early.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
So I'll say, though, even though I have him in
my Tier one in the back in the back end
of the draft. I'm not taking a J.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
If I'm in the back end of the draft, I'm
grabbing one of those running backs. So I see the
tier one situation. But I also agree with you. Going
eighth overall is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Yeah, And to be to be and to be fair
to this drafter and this was a sleeper draft. He
went zero running back because he went AJ Brown, Laporta,
Samuel As Kirk Richardson. He didn't take a running back
to round seven in Nick Chubb, So that guy made

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So I mean, it was a mock draft, but this
guy made it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Maybe. I mean he got hurt early, so there's maybe
a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
But so yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
I've seen Chubb go is late. Like the last one
that I did. Chubb went in like the eighth round
or some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
So if that guy would have did it, but it
wouldn't look so bad. So if that guy, this guy
took AJ Brown ninth overall. He took Sam Laporta in
the second round, but he could have taken in the
second round atn Kyron Williams, Derrick Henry a Chan. He
decided to go to Laporta. But if he started off A. J.
Brown and Kyrien Williams. We wouldn't be that upset, but

(01:17:44):
like it's still in my head. I might be stuck
in a certain mindset. It just seems like it should
be the other way around. But that could be just me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Like I said before, if I'm in the first half
of the draft, I'm taking a top liers, I'm in
the second half of the first round, I'm taking a
running back, and I'm probably pairing it with a running
back in the second round.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Two, okay, and then and then to continue on them
with the receivers. We talked about him later. Devonte Smith
went in the fourth round, but he should be earlier.
But I mean no, I mean he was. He was
the twenty three receiver drafted.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
That seems about fine, fine for DeVonta Smith. I mean,
you know, he had just barely over a thousand yards last.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Year, about the same amount.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
He had the same amount of touchdowns as I'm looking
at their stats right now. A J. Brown had one
hundred and six receptions for fourteen and fifty six yards
seven touchdowns. The Monta Smith had eighty one receptions for
one thousand and sixty six and seven touchdowns. So the
touchdowns are spread out between the two, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
The yardage is different.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
The yard is just tremendously different.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
But the catches were kind of similar.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Right, one hundred and six to eighty one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Oh okay, So yeah, I'm fine with Devontae Smith in
the fourth round. I like the I like the kid,
but there's just so many options. Yeah, Dave, are you
taking DeVante Smith or Stephan Dicks. I'm gonna go with Diggskay,
That's how we went in this draft. Adam, are you
taking Devonte Smith or Debro Samuel?

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
I'm taking uh Jay?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Are you taking Davante Smith or Drake London?

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Devonte Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Well, Drake London went in the second round.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I noticed that about Drake London. And simple fact is
that now they have Kirk Cousins. Now he's going just
crazy high.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Yeah, he's he's flying. But I do like Devontae Smith
so much. Oh what's up Saints Joe? In the chat?
So before we get to the last team, I kept
him here to the end because we've always debated this
guy in the in the show. But say Kwon Barkley man,
I've always loved him. He's on the best team ever.
He's got the best offensive line in the league. He
went in the second round in this mock draft, but

(01:19:57):
he was our B six RB six, so he went
just like I kind of said it went, Christian Bijon, Bresee, Gibbs, Taylor, Saquon.
Spoiler alert for me, Saquon is definitely going above Gibbs
and Taylor, so he's probably my RB four, but there's
a chance he slides up to three for me. So

(01:20:18):
I love him and I've always loved him, and I
think he has the chance to finally like be allowed
to like run the ball and have some fucking space
and be able to work and not have to worry
about nothing around him. I I I just think he's
so talented and he he can really really make it happen.
Here is anybody super low on Saquon other than trying

(01:20:40):
to make fun of me for loving him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Listen. I did a mantraft the other day, like two
days ago. My first pick was Saquon Barkley at number twelve.
I got Saquon and then went Kyron to Pare.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
It's a good start. It's a good start. What do
you what do you think, Dave? You're gonna say something?

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
I'm not fighting all. Sequon's gonna fsis here yep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
My goodness, finally. But I mean it's just all signs
are pointing to it, like, are you guys taking you know,
we love him and this is a fun debate. Gibbs
over Saquon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Barkley can't do it as much as people are high
on Gibbs, and the talent's there and they should just
they should just make him a workhorse. It's like Montgomery's there, Dude,
Montgomery is there, and he's gonna He's gonna eat into time.
He's gonna eat into touches, He's gonna eat into touchdowns
like everybody waiting for, you know, Jamior Gibbs to be
this three three down back with you know, sixteen hundred

(01:21:36):
yards and twenty touchdowns, Like it's never happening.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
It's never. He's not built for it either.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
He's never just never gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Yeah, yeah, he's not built for it. So I'm surprising,
and like Taylor, I'm easily taking taking Barkley over Taylor,
and I know JA hates Taylor. W Where do you
guys stand on that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
With Anthony Richards with Wow, words are fair? Anthony richardson
coming back. I feel more comfortable with Jonathan Taylor this
year than I do than I did last year. It
was only because Richison was a rookie. We all saw
what he did, and then he got hurt and missed

(01:22:17):
ninety percent of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
We got a guest.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
I'm okay with John Taylor this year, so Banks and
Terror okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Saint Joe in the chat said that Dave, you love
running backs, and he won't be surprised if you take
six again to start your draft.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Love.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
I do love running backs. But let's just see some
common sense here. It Barkley is going to have the
better season, then gives okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
All right, all right, one more team to talk about
for twenty seconds. Now, this is interesting to me. I
do want to ask a very certain question on this team,
and that is going to be the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Dude, you almost got us canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
They brought in Austin Eckler, your boy, your two boys.
I don't you guys loved him. I don't know if
Jay loved him per se. They brought in Marcus Mariota Championship.
They brought in Bobby Wagner, Jamison Crowder, drafted Jade and
Daniels lost Gibson and Jacoby Brisquette, so they I don't know,

(01:23:24):
they have good receivers, but like it's just rookie quarterback.
I mean you're getting their receivers late, like you're getting
Terry McLaurin. Like, where was he in this mock draft? Late?
Super late? Let me try to find late Terry Terry McLaurin,
sixth round, sixth round, rom A doonsay went before him.

(01:23:48):
So you're gett McLaurin late, and the other guy, John Johnson.
I couldn't even tell you. I don't feel like finding him.
Oh no, there he is, thirteenth round good, better, better
quarterback now hopefully the running back situation Austin Eckler and
I Brian Thomas. I just got shot in the air, Brian,
I just got shot in the as Robinson. It's it's
it's I think they're all gonna be better because they

(01:24:11):
have a better quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I think they're sleeping on these IRB's this year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Yeah, I think they're sleeping on I think they're sleeping
on your boy. He had an awful year last year. Well,
now he's coming into a role which he's been built
for as a pass catching back out of the backfield.
Like I wouldn't be surprised. I feel like can have
one of his best season, not best, but one of
his better season, more a better season than people are expecting.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
He's gonna have his most return on value season. Right,
the market backet has now corrected itself on both Brian
Robinson and Austin Eckler. So this is the year where
these guys are going to return on the value for you.
Because if you were to tell me that, like Brian
Robertson finishes as running back sixteen on the year, right,

(01:25:01):
I'd be like, Okay, you know that that's a definite possibility.
He's definitely he could definitely be an RB two you
know what I mean, And you're getting him at RB
three value. Austin Eckler is just an absolute afterthought and
a lot like we talked about with James White and
you know, like those you know, those types of guys.
That's gonna be his role this year. He's not a
three down back. He's going to be the pass catching back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
I do want to clarify though, in this mock, just
one mock, he went before Robinson. They were close though.
Eckler went fifth pick in the eighth round and Brian
Robinson Junior went first pick in the ninth round, so
they were close to each other. So around around before see,

(01:25:45):
I think I might go back into PPR. But just
before Eckler it went Pollard, Mostard, Travonte Williams, Eckler, Jonathan Brooks,
Zack Moss, Jalen Warren, Brian Robinson Jr.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Talk about sleepers. Man, if you're not taking tears.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
I'm sorry I'm calling it now. I think Taser Spears
has a way better.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Season than I agree with you there. But but I
think I think you could do a lot worse than
grab An Eckler in the eighth round. So sure, it's
very so. I think they have hidden potential at all
their positions. I think their guys are going to be sleepers.
But the main one I want to touch on is
one of the most athletic electric running back receiver wide

(01:26:31):
receiver built quarterbacks. This is an athletic. This guy can
play wide receiver in the NFL. He is, he is
so fast, he won the Heidman Trumphy. He's a second
overall draft pick. You know how running quarterbacks can change
your team. Jaden Daniels, you could have nothing around you

(01:26:53):
and just rack up the points with your running I e.
Lamar Jackson, Right, So man, I loved I you could.
You could do so much worse than having Jaden Daniels
as your number two quarterback. And I still gotta do
my rankings. There's a chance Jadan Daniels ends up as

(01:27:14):
number twelve, but probably not for me, but close because
he's so electric. But honestly, man, this kid's electric. And
I know Dave's usually on the point. Same idea with me,
and that of like, you know, great rookie prospect quarterback,
put him as you like your number one backup kind
of thing in fantasy football.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you're most people don't draft
it back up QB anyway. So I mean, if you're
gonna do it, I mean, fuck it. Take take a shot,
especially if you're in like a keeper or something like that.
You grab him in the sixteenth round and stash him.
See if then, you know, the second half of the
season he ends up being you know, great, I mean
it's fine, yeah, but I'll tell you what, if you

(01:27:55):
really need the spot, my backup QB is the first
one to get dropped always.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Well, my theory on that is the earlier I draft
a quarterback, the later I don't even think about backup quarterback.
If I have Josh Allen, I don't draft a backup.
Although I drafted Josh Allen Lanscher, I also drafted Jordan Love,
which I traded for Jaylen Waddle, and then I traded
Jane Waddell for stuff on dig. So I fucked myself,

(01:28:20):
but it sounded good at the time. Here's a thought,
and I don't think this is crazy, Ada, So I'll
post this question to you. What if you waited yourself
waited on court And this is tough for you because
you're fucking uh, you're racist to rookie court rookies, But
like what if you start What if you waited on
quarterback and you started the season with Caleb Williams and

(01:28:41):
Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
Not gonna I yet, that does not sound appealing to
me at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
It sounds awesome to me, to be quite honest.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
But if that is hard, decided to do my draft
is year. I mean, realistically, where am I getting Caleb Williams? Because,
like they said, if the tick Keeper League people are
gonna start drafting him earlier than you really hope for
they we're just talking about saying with jayd and Daniels, probably,
I mean, if I don't draft a quarterback until like

(01:29:14):
round twelve thirteen, got if those guys are still there
at that point, I mean, at that point, I have
no choice.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
We are a little more both starting.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
They're both starting quarterbacks. They both have to figure it
out very early on. We'll take a stab and hopefully
one of them turns out great that can be a starting,
starting quarterback. Kind of like Anthony Richardson. Nobody drafted him early,
everybody got him super late as a backup, and he
ended up being great and started a couple of games,
and he was on his way to you know, the
game that he got hurt and knocked out for the

(01:29:45):
rest of the season, like he had like seventeen points
in like the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Dave, you're a little more giving when it comes to rookies.
So what do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I mean, if I'm leaving with both of those guys,
I mean, I don't know. Like I said, I'm not
feeling great about it. But also, like I said, like
my number is eight and I'm pretty I'm pretty stinging
on this is like, I have eight dudes that I
feel comfortable leaving my draft with as my QB, and
then outside of that, like it's a fucking total crapshoot.

(01:30:14):
So and and Caleb Williams and Jane Daniels are not
in that eight. So, I mean, I exactly what my
point is taking two stabs. I'm taking two stabs exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
If I if I'm desperate for quarterbacks. And here's the
thing though, if I get one of those guys and
not the other, I'm not happy. If I get both
of those guys, I'm a little bit more happy than
I would be with one or the other. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
How would you approach that, Ja, I don't know, it's
too hard. I know how jay would approach it. He'd
take like Justin Herbert, who's a little lower. Yeah, probably
that's unfair for me. I can honestly see in Kayleb
being like my number twelve and Jayden being my number thirteen,
and if they're both there. I did this in the

(01:31:00):
league that I won last year, in the tenth in
the ninth round, I took Anthony Richardson in the tenth round,
I took Dak Prescott. So like that kind of goes
to like my theory of like the lower I draft
a quarterback, the higher I draft the backup.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
So see, but do you think that if you're going
to go that route, though, you should be a little
bit timid on the situation and maybe a little bit
more conservative. So like you probably don't want to end
up with Caleb and j and Jan and Daniel's Oh no, but.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
I do, Dave, I do, And I know with your
conservative play, and I get get where where you're coming from.
But the chance of one of those two breaking out
is high, one of the two. The chance of one
of those two breaking out is high. And if I
want someone fucking a little more conservative, I'll go pick
up fucking Kirk Cousins off the waiver wire, or I'll
go get Aaron Rodgers off the waiver wire, or I'll

(01:31:48):
go get I don't fucking even know, but you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
I'm very happy if I draft Matt Stafford late and
then I end up with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Yeah. So like that that's the reason, like I feel
confident that one of the one of these two are
gonna break Cayleb Williams has got all the arm talent
and all the weapons jade, and Daniel's got all the
leg talent and like freedom to do what he wants.
He's got Cliff Kingsbury. I mean, Kyler Murray was fantastic
under Cliff Kingsbury. So that's kind of why I'm feeling

(01:32:19):
like he could be the guy. So like one of
those two is gonna be much better. One of those
two is going to be a top ten quarterback. I
really feel that way. I haven't put my name on
either for sure, but I really do feel that way.
So it's interesting. We'll see, and we'll see next week
folks when we have our quarterback rankings.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
Yeah, I guess will Yeah he does.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Man, Hey, I mean, how happy?

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Even though I won the championship with Dak Prescott, I
think I would have even been more of a monster
if Richardson didn't get hurt and I took Richardson first.
So I mean, honestly, I do. I feel I feel
very confident, but not confident enough where like I'm I'm
waiting on quarterback and doing that, but like if the
draft falls that way, I'd be very comfortable going in

(01:33:08):
the season with one of those. Listen, I didn't make
the championship, but Joe Burrow fucked me so hard last
year in the one league, and I made it to
almost to the championship by putting in Baker Mayfield, by
finding Jordan Love, you know what I mean, So like
it can be done doing that the one league out
of my three the four main leagues, the one league,

(01:33:31):
I go with Josh Allen. This league I don't do
too well. Well, I did fine, I was playoffs. The
other league, I take my guy that I thought was
gonna be great, Justin Herbert got hurt fucked me. I
buy in on Richardson, but I backed him up early
with with uh Dak Prescott, I won the championship. And
in the other league, I draft Joe Burrow early fucked
myself take Jordan Love do pretty good. So like I

(01:33:53):
experienced all sorts of emotions, I experienced the entire quarterback
world last year in fantasy football, so I'm all over
the place with it. And the team that I won
the championship with. I waited and drafted two quarterbacks back
to back, and that worked for me last year. So

(01:34:15):
it's kind of why it's in my head this year.
That's all. So that's the end of the episode. Guy,
we made another hour and a half. How you feel
you're alive over there, Adam.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
I've been up since six o'clock this morning, so it's
I'm struggling, but we're here. We're here. We made it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Yeah, you're falling asleep before Jay, I don't know. It's interesting.
So you boys got homework to do. You gotta do
your your quarterback rankings. So give it. Let's get the quarterbacks.
We usually do the top twenty to the top twenty,
top twenty quarterback rankings. I want to see everyone lands
and everything. I want to see where Adam puts. What
will leve us tighten up?

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Probably top five, top five.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
All right, well.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
If you go hold down on Broadway, we'll love this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Also down on Broadway they said it was the Cincinnati
Firebirds and stuff or whatever. That fucking awesome video was
all right, Adam, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
That's always Jay.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Thank you for joining us, no problem. Zags, thank you
for joining us. And Daggs was on the Chazz cast
this past week, so thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Shipping on z Ezy top let's go ship on Eazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Look, I get Adam on the Chazz Cast. Jay hasn't
been on a while either, so well, we'll get you
guys all on. So all right, guys, this is the
Fantasys Podcast. You can find us on YouTube, and you
can find us on wherever you listen to listen to podcasts.
And don't forget about my other show, the Chazz Cast.
All right, guys, until next week. We'll see you then.

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