September 23, 2025 • 46 mins
On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Federalist D.C. Columnist Eddie Scarry joins Federalist Senior Elections Correspondent Matt Kittle to explain how Democrats' rejection of the founding principles that make America great fuels the nation's identity crisis and threatens the future of the country.
You can find Scarry's book Traitors: The Democrat Party’s Collapse into Anti-American Filth here.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
And we are back with another edition of the Federalist
Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at The Federalist,
and your experienced Shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge. As always,
you can email the show at radio at the Federalist
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(00:39):
to the premium version of our website as well. Our
guest today is Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist
and author the fantastic new book Traders The Democrat Parties
Collapse into anti American filth. Eddie, thanks so much for
joining us on this edition not Federalist Radio A.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Matt, it's the honor of a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, I don't know about that. We'll see as the
show progresses, but it is an honor to you know,
your one of the greats at the Federalist, one of
my colleagues there, and I absolutely enjoy working with you
and reading you on a daily basis at the Federalist.
(01:25):
You know, putting your very interesting perspective on what is
happening in d C and beyond. You know, one of
the things I like from the very beginning of your book,
is that some authors, you know, they like to, you know,
go gently into the subject matter. There with your with
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your title. In this book, there is no mincing of words.
You get, you get right to it. How did you
decide on this title? I think you know, the body
of the work explains exactly what you're talking about here,
But how did you come to traders the Democrat parties
collapse into anti American filth.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, just like past books, including my last one, which
was titled Liberal Misery, how the hateful Left sucks joy
out of everything and everyone. It's one of those things
where you come up with an original thought and you're
really kind and kind of and it's usually for me,
it's the thought is something that I decided on it
(02:33):
as a title because as a thought I've literally been
having over and over again. I just keep having that thought,
and then I decide that would make a really good
idea for a book, and then I think that that
would be the title. But then for one reason or another,
you kind of realize that it doesn't quite hit You
need to maybe boil it down or in this case,
(02:53):
I'm not sure what it was before I had traders.
But I do know instead of anti American filth, I
had anti American squalor, and I loved that word. I
loved the word squalor. In fact, the President himself just
used it the other day referring to I believe either
DC like I had to do with him sending in
the guard to reinforce, you know, law enforcement. I don't
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remember if he was referring to d C or Chicago,
but I love that word. But I ran it by
a few people, people smart people. But one person didn't
know what that word meant. Another one who's an editor,
he said that that word is grammatically not right. So
do I came up with philth. But the whole title
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itself captures the theme really well of the book.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I think it does. I think in Filth absolutely is
fitting here. You write this, you can't love this country
and what it stands for, what men and women have
died for, and at the same time hold the view
of the modern liberal. The two are incompatible. And you
(04:06):
go back through time over the last several years in
this country. You really focus on what we've just experienced
in twenty twenty four, but what we have seen now
over the last several days in the wake of Charlie
Kirk's assassination. Cold blooded assassination was bad enough, but the
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response from liberals on college campuses and throughout much of society,
I think really drives home that point that you make
that you can't love this country and what it stands
for and at the same time hold the views of
the modern liberal. Let's talk a little bit about that,
(04:50):
because I think that is ultimately the premise and the
core of this book.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, in a very depressed way for my book to
come out just as Charlie Kirk was assassinated, murdered in
cold blood, publicly executed, and then to see just as
you were saying, I think, I think what hurt other
than the obvious it's a it's an obvious tragedy, but
(05:19):
to see the reaction afterward, particularly on social media. I
don't think that we've seen democrats and liberals behave this way,
this exact way until now. And I only just thought
about this the other day when there was something like
you know, Rush Limbaugh dying, or before if something bad
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happened to a prominent Republican, you would have these liberals
who would go on the comments section of a website,
but usually anonymously. They wouldn't have their picture there. It
would be some some kind of user name that's not
their actual name. Or they might have, worst case scenario,
they might have a Facebook book and so their friends
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and family knows who they are, but it's private, so
you're not really seeing it. But now with their full face,
with their full name in their bio, will have where
they work, where they live, what you know, details about
their personal lives. They'll go on TikTok, show their face
and just with absolute glee celebrate something tragic, deadly violent
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happening to someone who they opposed politically. That is nothing
I have seen before, if it ever happened before, certainly
not to this degree. And I really do think that
was why it was very painful to people who maybe
there are on the same side as Charlie Kirk but
don't know them, don't know him personally, and you just
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kind of saw yourself and him and thinking, wow, is
that what they would do if it happened to me?
And that's truly anti American behavior. And going back just
real quick to the book, the fundamental facts. When you
look at the positions that democrats take, whether it's on crime,
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whether it's on immigration, whether it has to do with
the economy, what it has to do with our elections,
what it has to do with civil rights, free speech.
It's what it ultimately comes down to is they don't
believe that everyone is created equal, that everyone should have
the same rights, that everyone should get to enjoy the
same things. They simply do not believe it. And if
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you don't believe that everyone is created equal and deserves
maybe are not entitled to those things. Obviously there are
differences and how much money someone has, how the ability
that a person has to secure things for themselves, but
they at least have the right to pursue it. And
it is just plainly true again with the positions that
Democrats hold on any given issue at any at any
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given time, and anything that they say, the things that
they say, the things they profess to believe, they do
not believe that we're all created equal and deserve the
same right to pursue the things that everyone else has.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think that's a very good point, just to follow
up on that. I have a theory because I don't
think it is definitely anti American. You're absolutely right about that.
I think it's anti human. I mean it is inhuman
to cheer on the cold blooded murder of anyone. And
(08:22):
now in this realm of what has been described, I
think rightly as assassination culture on the left, I mean
to take a look at some of the very frightening
studies about justification for the assassination for conservative leaders in
this country, chief among them, of course, President Donald Trump.
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And it is a very very frightening time in America.
But I want to ask you where do you think
all of this began? How did we get here? My
thought is that it has much to do with the
genuflecting on the left at the temple of equity, because
you mentioned equality, which is something that you know, all
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kinds of folks on the right and left have fought
for throughout the course of this great Republic. But now
over the last several years, we've gotten the terms, these
Marxist terms, quite frankly anti racism, which doesn't mean what
you think it means. Of course, you have equity, and
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equality goes out the window. How do you think we
got here? Is it? Does DEI have much to do
with us in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Absolutely, And I think that that was really set in
motion under Obama, and I'm not I don't want to
necessarily attribute attribute it to the Obama and Obama administration,
though I'm sure that there are very strong cases for that.
There were certainly things that he did that he did
and said during his presidency that exacerbated racial tensions, inflamed
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people's emotions over race, for sure. But I I think
there was this thing that was kind of humming in
the background. And I wrote about this in a previous
book called Privileged Victims, and it was this notion taking
hold on the left that your grievances based on your gender, identity,
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your race, those things are paramount. And if you can
claim some kind of grievance, it doesn't matter what anybody
says to you, and it doesn't matter what shortcomings you
what personal shortcomings you might have. You're entitled to things.
You're entitled to money, you're entitled to attention, financial gain.
And that took holds on the left. And again that
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by very definition, is to say that we're not created equal.
There were not created equal. And they're saying it, They're
saying somewhat of a similar thing, but in a very
perverse way. They're saying well, no, we are created equal,
but you've made this so unfair you have to compensate
for that. And so you're going to give up your positions.
You're going to give up your money for my benefit, purely,
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purely because I'm able to claim some kind of grievance.
And you see that there's this whole professional class out there,
millionaires overnight over talking about white supremacy, a complete fiction
in this country, at least talking about you know what,
you know, white supremacy, white nationalism, all that is just
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a complete lie, complete fiction. But these people became millionaires overnight,
and so yes, that has a lot to do with it.
And then it ran in that whole concept taking place,
It ran into Donald Trump. It ran into the election
of Donald Trump, and that really set things you would think,
I guess counterintuitively, it really set them on fire. They
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really went in on that, and a climax in twenty
twenty with the George Floyd fiery but mostly peaceful race riots.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And you know, after that, they they had some success,
they had some success, they took an election. But now
we're seeing that and retreat and that. But and yet
it's it's not going down without a fight because Donald
Trump really represents the opposite. He he he genuinely believes
and it's it's it's seen in his policies, his advocacy
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that everyone's created equal and everyone deserves a shot and
take your shot instead of instead of the left, which says, no,
we are not. You don't get to have the things
that I have. You hear it in the way they talk,
by the way and in their actions and the way
they talk. One of my favorite quotes is from John Kerry,
you know, the former you know democrat Emanee also the uh,
I'm just saying this for your listeners, and then the
(12:45):
former Senator I think he was also the Secretary of State,
and then.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Sure and he also played I believe he played Herman
Monster on the classic sixties show The Monsters.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
If you recall, yes, yes, looks very, very strikingly eerily similar.
But when he was asked at a you know, he
goes to those climate junkets and you know, flies around
the world on his massive private planes and for these
climate conferences where he tells everyone that they have to
you know, wear an extra sweater, throw another log on
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the fire because you can't have electric heat or anything.
They asked him. They said, why do you fly private?
Shouldn't you be flying commercial? Because of the CO two
And he said, I'll never forget it. He said, someone
like me can't do that. And what he's saying is
I'm special. I'm different than you. I get to do this,
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and also you're going to pay for it. You pay
for me to do this because I'm different and I'm special.
That's the way they behave and it's very again anti American.
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
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Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's what I love about your book. It's filled with
all of these examples of these bloviating hypocrites. During COVID,
of course, Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowserd Washington, DC, you know,
going to get their hair done. And the justification is,
you know, basically, well, I have to look good because
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I'm going to be on camera a lot to explain
why you have to wear a mask. And if you
do go out in public, if you're allowed at any
time in the very limited spaces we allow, you know,
you're going to have to stand six apart from people
and all of that sort of nonsense. Do you think
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that that the COVID era, under the draconian policies of
not only the federal government under Joe Biden, but the
Gavin Newsom's of the world, the lockdowners, did that inform
the Democrat Party, the far left, which has become the
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Democrat Party in this country, on how to behave and
how to lead and ultimately we're going to get into
this a moment, how to silence their critics in their
constant quest for power.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It did, It did for a period because, and this
goes back to my more recent book Liberal Misery, is
that people on the right and people in the center,
the independence, the right wingers, the conservative leaning people, we
are not built the same way that liberals are. Liberals
and democrats. Liberals and Democrats are consumed by politics, and
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conflict is their mo They are okay with tense, discomfort, conflict.
So they'll tell they'll bark at you in public. And
so the whole COVID thing that lent itself perfectly to
all of their instincts, their tendencies, and the neurosis to
pop off on people, scream at them about a mask,
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or tell them you're putting people's lives at risk by
simply going, you know, stepping outside. That that really and
we're the opposite again that the people in the middle,
the people on the right, we're we just like to
get we try to go along, to get along, compromise,
We're accommodating. You do not see that on the left.
So when twenty twenty the lockdowns happen, you have the
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federal bureaucracy telling the country you cannot leave your homes.
If you do, people are going to die. Stay at
home and watch Netflix. We'll send you a check every
couple of months. And yes, and then you had Democrats
who said, see, see, we have we have the authority
of the federal government behind us saying that what we're
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telling you to do, you have to do. And I
think eventually, as you know, the elections were getting near
during those years, everyone kind of looked around and was like, wait,
and they're looking at the examples that you just said
that are in the book, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi going
to a salon when all salons are locked down, she
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goes to a salon privately, you know they're looking at
that and going, wait, if you can do it, why
were you Why were you telling me I couldn't do it?
So people have Fortunately, it's always a very delicate thing.
You were always at risk of people forgetting. But that's
also why at the very top of the book, I
want people to remember the COVID years because don't ever
forget that because what they did. Remember Remember how it
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felt when you saw them do all the things they
told you couldn't do, and they did it. By the way,
And we have this very common, very frequent saying at
the federalists, it's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, indeed, and we saw what the left has been claiming,
you know, pejoratively to the right, you know self righteously,
that there are two Americas. Well, we saw the real
two Americas during COVID, with the examples given Nancy Pelosi, Pelosi,
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Gavin Newsom eating out at you know, an elite restaurant
while everybody is again forced into to stay in their
homes locked down. You have a chapter I think that
I think really drives all of this home and it
relates to everything we talked about, but I think it
really especially came to the four in twenty twenty four,
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then the run up to the presidential election, and the
chapter is this democracy. They abandoned democracy, then they put
it in prison. I think we know exactly where you're
going with us, but please explain.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, that was I think there's one thing I want
from this book. It's a full accounting because I don't
think we've quite confronted exactly what we went through with
the last election with you know, the lying and I
include the media on this big time. It couldn't have
been done without them. But you have the law fair
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against Donald Trump. You have first you know that's trying
to bankrupt him. If you remember that ruling that came
out that basically would have taken away all of his money.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Insane in New York. The ruling that was what around
six hundred million dollars, I mean, it was it was outlandish,
and obviously there have been some revisions to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That, right. Right, So there's first the attempts to zero
out his finding says, then the attempt to put him
in prison. Then there's an assassination attempt. He's actually shot,
another assassination attempt. All the while they're they're they're harassing
legally well meaning, unassuming people who are showing literally the FBI,
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the Biden's dj is showing up harassing parents who are
going to school board meeting, basically deeming them terrorists. And
then you have, you know, Biden steps aside because he
has to. They throw in Kamala who all over Washington
her entire tenure, even the media, you could read the stories,
if you read between the lines, you could see they
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were always making fun of her.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
She she was a complete joke. They knew she was
in over her head. You then would get periodic articles
about it was either her, her staff is demoralized, there's
high turnover. Then it's well, now they're upset because she
doesn't feel like she's getting the work portfolio that would
make her look good her Even in her book, she
just says that I wasn't given the assignments that would
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have made me shine, like just a complete joke of
a person. They put her in and the media engages
in this herculean effort hoist her on their shoulders to
get her across the finish line. Suddenly she is a
rock star. There has never been a more popular person.
She might just go on Mount Rushmore just like and
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allow her to complete, to completely reverse every position she
ever had, and it was swallowed. The media swallowed it.
All the while they're also saying, well, look, border crossings
are down, well after two million people cross the country. Oh,
it's supposed to be fine now that border crossings were dropping. Oh,
inflation's actually down. Well okay, Well, inflation went was up
at twenty five percent, prices are still at that same level.
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Is it okay that now inflation is quote unquote cooling.
Oh crime is actually down because look the homicide rate
has fallen. Okay, yeah, and yet the carjackings, the looting,
all of that is still at twenty twenty levels. So
I don't know why. We're just looking at homicide, but
the media would repeat those over and over again, just
just for the sake, all for the sake of getting
Kamala Harris elected and trying to deny Donald Trump another victory,
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which by the way, I skipped over this in addition
to the trying to zero out his finances, in addition
to trying to put him in prison, in addition to
the assassination attempts, they tried to remove him from the ballot,
to literally deny deny Americans their choice in the election. Like,
we cannot talk about that enough. It's been it's been
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what a year, not even and we have not fully recognized,
recognized what exactly happened there.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it is. It's mind blowing all that has occurred
in the name of democracy on the left. Our guest
today is Eddie Scary, DC, columnist at The Federalist and
author of the new book Traders the Democrat parties collapse
into anti American filth. The left certainly has an interesting
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idea of what you know is dangerous to democracy as
they go about being a danger to democracy, just as
they have an interesting idea of what a terrorist is.
They don't see so many, unfortunately, don't see Charlie Kirk's
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alleged assassin as a terrorist coming directly from the left.
You've written a lot about Jimmy Kimmel of late is
exhibit a of that. But they put on pedestals. In fact,
Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, Luigi Mangioni, the alleged assassin of
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Brian Thompson, another horrific incident over the last of less
than a year in this country of assassinating culture. You know,
they put him on a pedestal. Luigi Manji only, the
alleged assassin of the healthcare CEO. This is this is
really really stunning stuff. But you delve into again, this
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would not happen the way that it does without an
accomplice media, a corporate media that is desirous of a
narrative that does anything to undercut a Donald Trump be
the mega movement conservatives in general in this country, so
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much so you talked about propping up Kamala Harris. She
was the fill in candidate. They spent four years propping
up a guy in Joe Biden who had the mental
capacity of a bowl of KFC mashed potatoes and gravy.
What went on there? And how much did that inform
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sane America about what was happening?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah? And they tried, didn't they They tried so hard
to make her work. It was like it was like
one poll after another, like like as the days ticked
by after Kamala became the Democrat nominee, it was just
showing an a rasure of Donald Trump's lead, and it
was everything single state and on every single issue. Just
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suddenly you would see a new pole. Kamala has erase
closed the gap. Oh wait, now she's actually ahead. And
then when one when when the when the poll came out,
I don't remember who did it. It was a it
was a it was would be a reputable poll, but
it said that she had taken uh the advantage on
the economy. And after that I threw my hands up
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and said, if if you can sell if you can
sell me that, then this whole thing is fake, this
whole there's no way that this election is going to
be real like and I really meant that. After that,
I was like, there's just no way. And then of
course whatud we see the she lost every single swing state.
I think that I read in the New York Times
that she didn't she might have. It's either she got
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she either she she gained nothing. Democrats gained nothing in
not a single county or it was like only two
across the entire country. Otherwise, Democrats made absolutely no gains anywhere,
and so, yeah, how could you? And they couldn't have
done that without the media. But I often wondered before
the election, I said, when this is over and she loses,
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what is the media going to say? What are they
going to say to to their readers, their their viewers.
How are they going to say we got this? We
are they just gonna say, yeah, we got it wrong.
I wanted to hear them say because immediately after you
obviously saw a very demoralized people. You saw the two
Morning Joe lovers run to h Mar al Lago and
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you know, make some kind of like amends. And I thought, no,
what you need to do is you need to say, yeah,
we lied and we knew we were lying, and it
didn't work. That was the only that was the only
thing I wanted to hear from them. But no, they
just moved on and we're watching them. It's you you
can predict what they're going to do at this point,
it's it's so easy. Just like with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff.
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When when I saw they suspended him, I thought, well,
the outrage should be If there's outrage, it would be
at ABC for making that decision. But I thought, no, no, no, no.
What they're going to do is say it's because it's
because ABC was scared of the Trump administration. That's what
they're going to do. And sure enough, that's exactly what
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they did. Uh. But yeah, this our our news media.
Thank god, it's as weak as it is. I think people,
I'm not running across the country up and down taking
the polls, but my intuition is pretty good. I think
these little controversies that they keep trying to manufacture. I
was making fun of it today about you know, are
there actually people across the country having to have little
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chats with their theirs and their sons and you know,
I don't how do I explain Jimmy Kimmel may not
be coming back?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, wait a minute, are there enough people watching Jimmy
Kimmel to actually like?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I again, you know, that's the issue here is the
lack of self reflection, and you note that in this
book in previous books, of course, is that nobody wants
to talk about the Jimmy Kimmel and these late night jokers.
And I don't mean that in a comedic sense. I
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have lost so much of viewership of their original viewership
because they decided, the Stephen Colberts of the world, the
Jimmy Kimmel's in particular, decided to go all in on
the leftist, you know, as the leftist spokesman in late
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night television. People in general don't want to see that,
but they just alienated more than half of their market.
Their ratings were miserable. I would think that ABC and
parent company Disney, which has silenced all kinds of people
as you have written about over the years, I think
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they would they would look at this as a great
opportunity to you know, drop an arbit you know, a
anchor around their their next just as CBS. So the
new owners at CBS saw this. But that's what happens.
There is this and every you know, everybody can be
(29:33):
their own victim in an echo chamber. But accountability is
one thing that the left is absolutely dead set against.
And you touch upon that in your book.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, because they haven't had to face it. They never
face it. You know. We even you know, someone like
Donald Trump, who they swore was just going to weaponize
the Justice Department. And I'm talking about in the first
that he was elected back in twenty sixteen. No he said,
because you know, he had said Hillary Clinton was going
she'd be in jail if he was president. But no,
he goes in says, you know, I don't want to
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hurt anybody. Let's just drop it. We'll let it go.
That's how the right has behaved for a very long time,
and a lot of us were we felt like that
was the gracious thing to do. But then we've just
seen time and time again that when we're not getting
defamed and smeared by the news, media just absolutely piling
on well meaning, unassuming, even a political people who make,
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you know, a transgression without even knowing that they're making
a transgression. Whatever it is, you show up in a
maga hat somewhere, suddenly you're a racist, like you know,
when that's not happening, when the media is not doing
that to us, you had people like Joe Biden coming
in again his Justice Department, harassing people who weren't even
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there on January sixth, Harassing people who were parents who
are showing up at school board meetings, Harassing people who
are peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You know, just
over and over again. We we have grown really tired
of that. And if the worst thing that happens is
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that Jimmy Kimmel goes on a little bit of a
time out, I would say that they're in pretty good shape.
But speaking of speaking of Jimmy Kimmel, this is this is,
this is the thing here is that I actually enjoy.
I'm not someone who's like, oh, if you're a liberal,
like I can't listen to you, not at all. In fact,
I'm a pretty big fan of Bill Maher. I find
him be funny. I think oftentimes he even makes points
(31:40):
about the rights that should have been that I that
I'll be like, oh, I should have considered that. That's
a good point. I'm not at all closed to those
kinds of things. I'll seek out alternative views. I spend
all my day. If no one ever believes it, it's like, no,
I don't watch Fox News all day. I watch CNN
all day, and I read the New York Times, and
I watched and I let and I read the Washington Post.
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
What you do, and I I've always said you should
get casualty pay for that.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I have to tell our bosses. Yeah, but that's what
I do. That's that's my job. But I when I
saw the little bits of the Jimmy Kimmel monologue, it
wasn't much different from what I've seen from what I've
seen you know him in Colbert and it's, you know,
the same, just kind of boring anti Trump stuff. But
this one in particular, less than a week after this
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guy was shot in the neck in front of children
to go. That's the worst part really. I mean, obviously
there are many bad parts, but I thought, you know,
there are kids that went there to participate in the
American way, the here here opposing views, see a debate.
That's that's engagement, that's civil engagement. And that he could
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that Charlie Kirk did that. He deserves so much credit.
But children going and what were they treated to. They
were treated to a public execution in the ugliest way.
And for this guy to go and turn that into
like a joke or an alleged I guess it's his
monologue so I guess it's supposed to be funny, but
he makes the jokes about it, and then on top
of that, he gratuitously, which you could do. You could
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get away with this on MSNBC. It would be a
minor outrage and everyone move on. You do it on
a broadcast channel, which is supposed to be at the
word is in the name broad cast, it's supposed to
be broadly appealing, and you say, yeah, the mag of people,
they've reached a new low and they've just been trying
to make it seem like he's not one of them.
That is just so gratuitous and excessive. And you're not
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going to tell me that they're not going to get
the media. They are not going to get the public
and up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel because he said
that they're not going to turn this into a free
speech they're just a free speech issue. They're just not people.
Just I really do believe that. And I don't want
to give too much credit to the average American. As
much as I love this country and as good as
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I want for people, so I'm not going to give
too much credit. But I really do think they are tired.
They are tired of hearing about how the left gets
to get away with being so ugly and so nasty,
and yet because you want you now want to appeal
to the Constitution in the first Amendment. No, I think
that they've had it, I really do.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah. And the argument that this is that Jimmy Kimmel
is some sort of victim of oppression once again, which
is the terminology they like to you know, that he's
being silenced. The only person in the conversation that we
are having that has literally been silenced and martyred is
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Charlie Kirk. That's what's lost in all of this. And
people can say horrible, horrible things, they can say the
most hate field things. I absolutely believe in that, But
I also believe that your employer has the right to
say you're not going to say hateful and horrible things
(34:55):
on our dime. Yeah, also is a consideration, Matt.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
See the tweet that the former president Barack Obama that
he puts out today, I believe and he says something
to the effect of, you know, free speech is an
American right and something we should all partake in. Whether
you're Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
but one of them is dead for exercising his free
speech rights, and the other one is on a suspension.
(35:22):
And for you to in any way equate the two
and equate what the the consequence that both of them faced, again,
that's a that's a total justification for what happened. It
is and it speaks to what I'm talking about in
my book traders, because they really, oh, they are equal,
we'll call that equal. They know what, they know well
(35:43):
it's not. They know well it's not. But they're perfectly
fine with that because they don't see they don't see
everyone as equal. So someone gets taken out, well that's
just fine. Let's talk about the guy who has suspended
from his you know, multimillion dollar job.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
M hmm, absolutely. Yeah. The equivalency game is very fatiguing
and it has been going on in the left for
a long time. And it's silly and it's stupid, but
they have forced through many different channels Americans too tired
Americans to have to buy into this or at least
say please just leave me alone, go do whatever you're
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going to do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's deadly, it's anti American.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It is and I think about Barack Obama, who was
silencing journalists, and I mean, actually, you know, the corporate
journal the corporate media journalists that have been on his side,
he was silencing them. You know. His policies and his
era ended up with all kinds of silencings of conservative
(36:44):
individuals for having a different point of view than the
Obama height. So once again, the hypocrisy is baked in
to the American left at a degree that is astonishing.
One of the things I really enjoy about your book, Eddie, is,
you know, the personalization of your book. You write about
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your mother who literally came to this country from Mexico
and a shwed you know, you learning you and your
sibling learning Spanish. She wanted you from the very beginning
to be an American. You are an American and she
(37:25):
is an American, and she went through this whole process,
something that the left doesn't fully understand legally, and so
you write about when she sees, you know, as we've
seen over the last several months, you know, Mexican Americans
waving their you know, their flags, their country flags are
(37:47):
anywhere else. You know, she is mad about that, and
that is you talk about this in context of how
the American left has treated the illegal immigrant as opposed
to the legal immigrant and Americans in general.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh right, you know, if you literally they will fly
out to get you, to bring you into this country
if they can, the illegals. Democrats, that's how they behave
You saw it with the Brago Garcia when Chris van
Holand Democrat of Maryland, literally flies to Al Salvador to
reimport this professed illegal alien, credibly accused of being a
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violent gang member, credibly accused of being a wife beater,
and yet someone like my mother they would want to
have nothing to do with. Yes, this was a woman
who Mexican immigrant eventually naturalized under Reagan. She had me
and my sister, and the answers would always change over
the years, like why didn't you teach U Spanish? Because
it kind of became a thing where it would have
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been useful, like in you know, certain situations, useful for
jobs eventually, so we kind of wish that we that
we had known. But I understood why she did it eventually,
and she I remember her saying, she said, I'm not
going to go into too much detail about this, but
she said, I didn't want you to be like the
rest of them out there. I remember her saying that,
and I brought it up to here again when I
(39:13):
was writing this part of the book. I said, do
you remember that? Do you remember saying? I said, I
think what you meant was we wouldn't have properly like assimilated.
And she said, yep, and I stand by that. I
still stand by that, and she just she wanted us
to be as American as possible. She is as American
as possible. You would look at me and you would see, like,
I'm not a white person. I'm you know, not the
(39:34):
darkest person, but you would say, he's not really white.
He's something. You would definitely look at her and no,
she's probably some type of Latina, but her English is
she's got just an American accent. Still speaks fluent Spanish,
but American accent. And yeah, when she sees it's been
my whole life. She still does it to this day.
And you know, we'll go to like a Latin heritage
(39:55):
festival or something. I used to hate him as a kid,
but now I enjoy him. We'll go to that kind
of thing. But when it's like the day to day,
just through your life, if you see people with like
a Puerto Rican flag in your in your uh, you know,
in your hanging from your rear view mirror, or you
see it displayed somewhere, or you're wearing that around your neck.
She gets furious. She hates to see it. She says
(40:19):
that you cannot represent another country. Why are you here? Then?
Why are you here?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Go back?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And yeah, just the point of this is to get
across it. And really just the entire first chapter is
that we have a way of living here that is
distinct and unique and it should be celebrated by every
real patriotic American. And it's not you know, it's not ambiguous.
It's not something that we can't define. It's not something
that you don't know. You don't you know. The left
(40:47):
likes to be like, well, what what does it mean
to be an American? You you know it when you
see it. I'm sorry, you know when you see it.
There are other things we definitely know what we have
the Constitution, we have a we have a harrowing, fascinating
hit history here. All those things are important. But you
certainly know an American when you see it, and you
know American behavior and conduct and someone who really subscribes
(41:09):
to the American way, and the left just completely rejects
it all. And and worst of it all is the
way they do it in their policies, the way the
way that they're they excuse and exacerbate crime, the way
that they care nothing of order at least for at
least for the people who don't have the money, who
(41:30):
don't have the access to power to get it. And
that's that's really the shame in that party is that
they they and it's their voters sadly they cast them
aside and say, you deal with it, you live, you
live in the filth. I'm gonna I'm going to live
in my gated community. Uh, I'm close to the government.
I'm going to fly private. You get to deal with
(41:51):
all the garbage that that all of my policies have
created anti American because they don't believe in the equality.
They don't believe everyone should have the same things or
access to the same thing that they do.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
One thing I know for certain, your mother is an
exceptional American. And you know what, The pride in America
has been so shot up by the left over the
last several years. You note in your book that the
left always likes to talk about America as an idea,
(42:23):
you know, a concept. It is. First of all, what
the left has forgotten is that America is a geography
as well. It is a land, it is a country,
and without borders, it cannot be that. And that's what
they're absolutely trying to do. Erase those borders. And what
(42:44):
they're trying to do with that is sell Americans on
the idea that America is an evil place. And that
is what I think breaks so many Americans hearts. So
I ask you this as we close, where do we
go from here with that kind of mentality from a
(43:08):
significant portion of America.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I really believe, and we have our colleagues do a
really great job of writing about this. John Daniel Davidson
wrote a piece just a couple of days ago about
how we can't share this country anymore and what that
means is that we have to win all of it.
We have to win it. They can live here, but
(43:34):
it can't be theirs in the sense of them having
power and control in the big ways that they have
had it, in the ways that they've wielded that power
and control that have torn this country down. And I
really do believe that that is going to take all people,
all average ordinary Americans of in their every They're going
(43:59):
to have to start caring a lot more. They're going
to have to start saying, Okay, I've tried to be accommodating.
I have tolerated the anti social, anti American behavior of
people in my life who I've known. And this isn't
about cutting people off, but it is about standing up
to those attitudes, those tendencies, the neuroses of the American left.
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Because they do they the way that they are so
comfortable with conflict and contention in their personal lives and
their everyday lives. It has to be that the people
like us, the real Americans, the people who love this
country and don't want to see it disappear, they have
to say I'm not dealing with that, and that's enough,
and no, I don't agree with you, and you're wrong,
(44:43):
and here's why you're wrong, and it's enough. Otherwise we're
not going to have a relationship anymore. And you don't
want that. You don't want people limiting their social circles,
limiting their family circles. I don't want that for anybody.
But you're going to see this country disappear if you
don't start standing up for what you believe and loudly
doing it.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think to put it into terms that we've all
dealt with over our lifetimes, we deal with a lot of,
or plenty of in our lives drama queens or drama kings,
and you know, that's a lot of people have chosen to,
you know, either sever those relationships or try to redefine them.
But you can't change those people that mentality. So it's
(45:27):
going to take again. I think you're absolutely right, a
unification of the Saine. That's a word that you use
multiple times in this book. We have to get back
to sanity and reality, which is something the left has
been protesting against for a mighty long time. Thanks to
(45:49):
my guest today, Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist
and author of the new book Traders, the Democrat Parties
collapse into anti American filth. You've been listening to another
edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior
Elections correspondent at The Federalist. We'll be back soon with more.
(46:09):
Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the
Fray
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(00:39):
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guest today is Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist
and author the fantastic new book Traders The Democrat Parties
Collapse into anti American filth. Eddie, thanks so much for
joining us on this edition not Federalist Radio A.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Matt, it's the honor of a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, I don't know about that. We'll see as the
show progresses, but it is an honor to you know,
your one of the greats at the Federalist, one of
my colleagues there, and I absolutely enjoy working with you
and reading you on a daily basis at the Federalist.
(01:25):
You know, putting your very interesting perspective on what is
happening in d C and beyond. You know, one of
the things I like from the very beginning of your book,
is that some authors, you know, they like to, you know,
go gently into the subject matter. There with your with
(01:48):
your title. In this book, there is no mincing of words.
You get, you get right to it. How did you
decide on this title? I think you know, the body
of the work explains exactly what you're talking about here,
But how did you come to traders the Democrat parties
collapse into anti American filth.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, just like past books, including my last one, which
was titled Liberal Misery, how the hateful Left sucks joy
out of everything and everyone. It's one of those things
where you come up with an original thought and you're
really kind and kind of and it's usually for me,
it's the thought is something that I decided on it
(02:33):
as a title because as a thought I've literally been
having over and over again. I just keep having that thought,
and then I decide that would make a really good
idea for a book, and then I think that that
would be the title. But then for one reason or another,
you kind of realize that it doesn't quite hit You
need to maybe boil it down or in this case,
(02:53):
I'm not sure what it was before I had traders.
But I do know instead of anti American filth, I
had anti American squalor, and I loved that word. I
loved the word squalor. In fact, the President himself just
used it the other day referring to I believe either
DC like I had to do with him sending in
the guard to reinforce, you know, law enforcement. I don't
(03:16):
remember if he was referring to d C or Chicago,
but I love that word. But I ran it by
a few people, people smart people. But one person didn't
know what that word meant. Another one who's an editor,
he said that that word is grammatically not right. So
do I came up with philth. But the whole title
(03:38):
itself captures the theme really well of the book.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I think it does. I think in Filth absolutely is
fitting here. You write this, you can't love this country
and what it stands for, what men and women have
died for, and at the same time hold the view
of the modern liberal. The two are incompatible. And you
(04:06):
go back through time over the last several years in
this country. You really focus on what we've just experienced
in twenty twenty four, but what we have seen now
over the last several days in the wake of Charlie
Kirk's assassination. Cold blooded assassination was bad enough, but the
(04:29):
response from liberals on college campuses and throughout much of society,
I think really drives home that point that you make
that you can't love this country and what it stands
for and at the same time hold the views of
the modern liberal. Let's talk a little bit about that,
(04:50):
because I think that is ultimately the premise and the
core of this book.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, in a very depressed way for my book to
come out just as Charlie Kirk was assassinated, murdered in
cold blood, publicly executed, and then to see just as
you were saying, I think, I think what hurt other
than the obvious it's a it's an obvious tragedy, but
(05:19):
to see the reaction afterward, particularly on social media. I
don't think that we've seen democrats and liberals behave this way,
this exact way until now. And I only just thought
about this the other day when there was something like
you know, Rush Limbaugh dying, or before if something bad
(05:40):
happened to a prominent Republican, you would have these liberals
who would go on the comments section of a website,
but usually anonymously. They wouldn't have their picture there. It
would be some some kind of user name that's not
their actual name. Or they might have, worst case scenario,
they might have a Facebook book and so their friends
(06:01):
and family knows who they are, but it's private, so
you're not really seeing it. But now with their full face,
with their full name in their bio, will have where
they work, where they live, what you know, details about
their personal lives. They'll go on TikTok, show their face
and just with absolute glee celebrate something tragic, deadly violent
(06:25):
happening to someone who they opposed politically. That is nothing
I have seen before, if it ever happened before, certainly
not to this degree. And I really do think that
was why it was very painful to people who maybe
there are on the same side as Charlie Kirk but
don't know them, don't know him personally, and you just
(06:45):
kind of saw yourself and him and thinking, wow, is
that what they would do if it happened to me?
And that's truly anti American behavior. And going back just
real quick to the book, the fundamental facts. When you
look at the positions that democrats take, whether it's on crime,
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whether it's on immigration, whether it has to do with
the economy, what it has to do with our elections,
what it has to do with civil rights, free speech.
It's what it ultimately comes down to is they don't
believe that everyone is created equal, that everyone should have
the same rights, that everyone should get to enjoy the
same things. They simply do not believe it. And if
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you don't believe that everyone is created equal and deserves
maybe are not entitled to those things. Obviously there are
differences and how much money someone has, how the ability
that a person has to secure things for themselves, but
they at least have the right to pursue it. And
it is just plainly true again with the positions that
Democrats hold on any given issue at any at any
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given time, and anything that they say, the things that
they say, the things they profess to believe, they do
not believe that we're all created equal and deserve the
same right to pursue the things that everyone else has.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think that's a very good point, just to follow
up on that. I have a theory because I don't
think it is definitely anti American. You're absolutely right about that.
I think it's anti human. I mean it is inhuman
to cheer on the cold blooded murder of anyone. And
(08:22):
now in this realm of what has been described, I
think rightly as assassination culture on the left, I mean
to take a look at some of the very frightening
studies about justification for the assassination for conservative leaders in
this country, chief among them, of course, President Donald Trump.
(08:43):
And it is a very very frightening time in America.
But I want to ask you where do you think
all of this began? How did we get here? My
thought is that it has much to do with the
genuflecting on the left at the temple of equity, because
you mentioned equality, which is something that you know, all
(09:05):
kinds of folks on the right and left have fought
for throughout the course of this great Republic. But now
over the last several years, we've gotten the terms, these
Marxist terms, quite frankly anti racism, which doesn't mean what
you think it means. Of course, you have equity, and
(09:26):
equality goes out the window. How do you think we
got here? Is it? Does DEI have much to do
with us in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Absolutely, And I think that that was really set in
motion under Obama, and I'm not I don't want to
necessarily attribute attribute it to the Obama and Obama administration,
though I'm sure that there are very strong cases for that.
There were certainly things that he did that he did
and said during his presidency that exacerbated racial tensions, inflamed
(09:56):
people's emotions over race, for sure. But I I think
there was this thing that was kind of humming in
the background. And I wrote about this in a previous
book called Privileged Victims, and it was this notion taking
hold on the left that your grievances based on your gender, identity,
(10:19):
your race, those things are paramount. And if you can
claim some kind of grievance, it doesn't matter what anybody
says to you, and it doesn't matter what shortcomings you
what personal shortcomings you might have. You're entitled to things.
You're entitled to money, you're entitled to attention, financial gain.
And that took holds on the left. And again that
(10:43):
by very definition, is to say that we're not created equal.
There were not created equal. And they're saying it, They're
saying somewhat of a similar thing, but in a very
perverse way. They're saying well, no, we are created equal,
but you've made this so unfair you have to compensate
for that. And so you're going to give up your positions.
You're going to give up your money for my benefit, purely,
(11:06):
purely because I'm able to claim some kind of grievance.
And you see that there's this whole professional class out there,
millionaires overnight over talking about white supremacy, a complete fiction
in this country, at least talking about you know what,
you know, white supremacy, white nationalism, all that is just
(11:31):
a complete lie, complete fiction. But these people became millionaires overnight,
and so yes, that has a lot to do with it.
And then it ran in that whole concept taking place,
It ran into Donald Trump. It ran into the election
of Donald Trump, and that really set things you would think,
I guess counterintuitively, it really set them on fire. They
(11:55):
really went in on that, and a climax in twenty
twenty with the George Floyd fiery but mostly peaceful race riots.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And you know, after that, they they had some success,
they had some success, they took an election. But now
we're seeing that and retreat and that. But and yet
it's it's not going down without a fight because Donald
Trump really represents the opposite. He he he genuinely believes
and it's it's it's seen in his policies, his advocacy
(12:23):
that everyone's created equal and everyone deserves a shot and
take your shot instead of instead of the left, which says, no,
we are not. You don't get to have the things
that I have. You hear it in the way they talk,
by the way and in their actions and the way
they talk. One of my favorite quotes is from John Kerry,
you know, the former you know democrat Emanee also the uh,
I'm just saying this for your listeners, and then the
(12:45):
former Senator I think he was also the Secretary of State,
and then.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Sure and he also played I believe he played Herman
Monster on the classic sixties show The Monsters.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
If you recall, yes, yes, looks very, very strikingly eerily similar.
But when he was asked at a you know, he
goes to those climate junkets and you know, flies around
the world on his massive private planes and for these
climate conferences where he tells everyone that they have to
you know, wear an extra sweater, throw another log on
(13:15):
the fire because you can't have electric heat or anything.
They asked him. They said, why do you fly private?
Shouldn't you be flying commercial? Because of the CO two
And he said, I'll never forget it. He said, someone
like me can't do that. And what he's saying is
I'm special. I'm different than you. I get to do this,
(13:36):
and also you're going to pay for it. You pay
for me to do this because I'm different and I'm special.
That's the way they behave and it's very again anti American.
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Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's what I love about your book. It's filled with
all of these examples of these bloviating hypocrites. During COVID,
of course, Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowserd Washington, DC, you know,
going to get their hair done. And the justification is,
you know, basically, well, I have to look good because
(14:45):
I'm going to be on camera a lot to explain
why you have to wear a mask. And if you
do go out in public, if you're allowed at any
time in the very limited spaces we allow, you know,
you're going to have to stand six apart from people
and all of that sort of nonsense. Do you think
(15:05):
that that the COVID era, under the draconian policies of
not only the federal government under Joe Biden, but the
Gavin Newsom's of the world, the lockdowners, did that inform
the Democrat Party, the far left, which has become the
(15:28):
Democrat Party in this country, on how to behave and
how to lead and ultimately we're going to get into
this a moment, how to silence their critics in their
constant quest for power.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It did, It did for a period because, and this
goes back to my more recent book Liberal Misery, is
that people on the right and people in the center,
the independence, the right wingers, the conservative leaning people, we
are not built the same way that liberals are. Liberals
and democrats. Liberals and Democrats are consumed by politics, and
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conflict is their mo They are okay with tense, discomfort, conflict.
So they'll tell they'll bark at you in public. And
so the whole COVID thing that lent itself perfectly to
all of their instincts, their tendencies, and the neurosis to
pop off on people, scream at them about a mask,
(16:30):
or tell them you're putting people's lives at risk by
simply going, you know, stepping outside. That that really and
we're the opposite again that the people in the middle,
the people on the right, we're we just like to
get we try to go along, to get along, compromise,
We're accommodating. You do not see that on the left.
So when twenty twenty the lockdowns happen, you have the
(16:54):
federal bureaucracy telling the country you cannot leave your homes.
If you do, people are going to die. Stay at
home and watch Netflix. We'll send you a check every
couple of months. And yes, and then you had Democrats
who said, see, see, we have we have the authority
of the federal government behind us saying that what we're
(17:15):
telling you to do, you have to do. And I
think eventually, as you know, the elections were getting near
during those years, everyone kind of looked around and was like, wait,
and they're looking at the examples that you just said
that are in the book, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi going
to a salon when all salons are locked down, she
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goes to a salon privately, you know they're looking at
that and going, wait, if you can do it, why
were you Why were you telling me I couldn't do it?
So people have Fortunately, it's always a very delicate thing.
You were always at risk of people forgetting. But that's
also why at the very top of the book, I
want people to remember the COVID years because don't ever
forget that because what they did. Remember Remember how it
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felt when you saw them do all the things they
told you couldn't do, and they did it. By the way,
And we have this very common, very frequent saying at
the federalists, it's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, indeed, and we saw what the left has been claiming,
you know, pejoratively to the right, you know self righteously,
that there are two Americas. Well, we saw the real
two Americas during COVID, with the examples given Nancy Pelosi, Pelosi,
(18:32):
Gavin Newsom eating out at you know, an elite restaurant
while everybody is again forced into to stay in their
homes locked down. You have a chapter I think that
I think really drives all of this home and it
relates to everything we talked about, but I think it
really especially came to the four in twenty twenty four,
(18:56):
then the run up to the presidential election, and the
chapter is this democracy. They abandoned democracy, then they put
it in prison. I think we know exactly where you're
going with us, but please explain.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, that was I think there's one thing I want
from this book. It's a full accounting because I don't
think we've quite confronted exactly what we went through with
the last election with you know, the lying and I
include the media on this big time. It couldn't have
been done without them. But you have the law fair
(19:33):
against Donald Trump. You have first you know that's trying
to bankrupt him. If you remember that ruling that came
out that basically would have taken away all of his money.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Insane in New York. The ruling that was what around
six hundred million dollars, I mean, it was it was outlandish,
and obviously there have been some revisions to.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That, right. Right, So there's first the attempts to zero
out his finding says, then the attempt to put him
in prison. Then there's an assassination attempt. He's actually shot,
another assassination attempt. All the while they're they're they're harassing
legally well meaning, unassuming people who are showing literally the FBI,
(20:16):
the Biden's dj is showing up harassing parents who are
going to school board meeting, basically deeming them terrorists. And
then you have, you know, Biden steps aside because he
has to. They throw in Kamala who all over Washington
her entire tenure, even the media, you could read the stories,
if you read between the lines, you could see they
(20:37):
were always making fun of her.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
She she was a complete joke. They knew she was
in over her head. You then would get periodic articles
about it was either her, her staff is demoralized, there's
high turnover. Then it's well, now they're upset because she
doesn't feel like she's getting the work portfolio that would
make her look good her Even in her book, she
just says that I wasn't given the assignments that would
(21:00):
have made me shine, like just a complete joke of
a person. They put her in and the media engages
in this herculean effort hoist her on their shoulders to
get her across the finish line. Suddenly she is a
rock star. There has never been a more popular person.
She might just go on Mount Rushmore just like and
(21:21):
allow her to complete, to completely reverse every position she
ever had, and it was swallowed. The media swallowed it.
All the while they're also saying, well, look, border crossings
are down, well after two million people cross the country. Oh,
it's supposed to be fine now that border crossings were dropping. Oh,
inflation's actually down. Well okay, Well, inflation went was up
at twenty five percent, prices are still at that same level.
(21:43):
Is it okay that now inflation is quote unquote cooling.
Oh crime is actually down because look the homicide rate
has fallen. Okay, yeah, and yet the carjackings, the looting,
all of that is still at twenty twenty levels. So
I don't know why. We're just looking at homicide, but
the media would repeat those over and over again, just
just for the sake, all for the sake of getting
Kamala Harris elected and trying to deny Donald Trump another victory,
(22:08):
which by the way, I skipped over this in addition
to the trying to zero out his finances, in addition
to trying to put him in prison, in addition to
the assassination attempts, they tried to remove him from the ballot,
to literally deny deny Americans their choice in the election. Like,
we cannot talk about that enough. It's been it's been
(22:28):
what a year, not even and we have not fully recognized,
recognized what exactly happened there.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it is. It's mind blowing all that has occurred
in the name of democracy on the left. Our guest
today is Eddie Scary, DC, columnist at The Federalist and
author of the new book Traders the Democrat parties collapse
into anti American filth. The left certainly has an interesting
(23:00):
idea of what you know is dangerous to democracy as
they go about being a danger to democracy, just as
they have an interesting idea of what a terrorist is.
They don't see so many, unfortunately, don't see Charlie Kirk's
(23:24):
alleged assassin as a terrorist coming directly from the left.
You've written a lot about Jimmy Kimmel of late is
exhibit a of that. But they put on pedestals. In fact,
Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, Luigi Mangioni, the alleged assassin of
(23:48):
Brian Thompson, another horrific incident over the last of less
than a year in this country of assassinating culture. You know,
they put him on a pedestal. Luigi Manji only, the
alleged assassin of the healthcare CEO. This is this is
really really stunning stuff. But you delve into again, this
(24:12):
would not happen the way that it does without an
accomplice media, a corporate media that is desirous of a
narrative that does anything to undercut a Donald Trump be
the mega movement conservatives in general in this country, so
(24:35):
much so you talked about propping up Kamala Harris. She
was the fill in candidate. They spent four years propping
up a guy in Joe Biden who had the mental
capacity of a bowl of KFC mashed potatoes and gravy.
What went on there? And how much did that inform
(24:59):
sane America about what was happening?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah? And they tried, didn't they They tried so hard
to make her work. It was like it was like
one poll after another, like like as the days ticked
by after Kamala became the Democrat nominee, it was just
showing an a rasure of Donald Trump's lead, and it
was everything single state and on every single issue. Just
(25:25):
suddenly you would see a new pole. Kamala has erase
closed the gap. Oh wait, now she's actually ahead. And
then when one when when the when the poll came out,
I don't remember who did it. It was a it
was a it was would be a reputable poll, but
it said that she had taken uh the advantage on
the economy. And after that I threw my hands up
(25:46):
and said, if if you can sell if you can
sell me that, then this whole thing is fake, this
whole there's no way that this election is going to
be real like and I really meant that. After that,
I was like, there's just no way. And then of
course whatud we see the she lost every single swing state.
I think that I read in the New York Times
that she didn't she might have. It's either she got
(26:09):
she either she she gained nothing. Democrats gained nothing in
not a single county or it was like only two
across the entire country. Otherwise, Democrats made absolutely no gains anywhere,
and so, yeah, how could you? And they couldn't have
done that without the media. But I often wondered before
the election, I said, when this is over and she loses,
(26:31):
what is the media going to say? What are they
going to say to to their readers, their their viewers.
How are they going to say we got this? We
are they just gonna say, yeah, we got it wrong.
I wanted to hear them say because immediately after you
obviously saw a very demoralized people. You saw the two
Morning Joe lovers run to h Mar al Lago and
(26:52):
you know, make some kind of like amends. And I thought, no,
what you need to do is you need to say, yeah,
we lied and we knew we were lying, and it
didn't work. That was the only that was the only
thing I wanted to hear from them. But no, they
just moved on and we're watching them. It's you you
can predict what they're going to do at this point,
it's it's so easy. Just like with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff.
(27:15):
When when I saw they suspended him, I thought, well,
the outrage should be If there's outrage, it would be
at ABC for making that decision. But I thought, no, no, no, no.
What they're going to do is say it's because it's
because ABC was scared of the Trump administration. That's what
they're going to do. And sure enough, that's exactly what
(27:35):
they did. Uh. But yeah, this our our news media.
Thank god, it's as weak as it is. I think people,
I'm not running across the country up and down taking
the polls, but my intuition is pretty good. I think
these little controversies that they keep trying to manufacture. I
was making fun of it today about you know, are
there actually people across the country having to have little
(27:58):
chats with their theirs and their sons and you know,
I don't how do I explain Jimmy Kimmel may not
be coming back?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, wait a minute, are there enough people watching Jimmy
Kimmel to actually like?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I again, you know, that's the issue here is the
lack of self reflection, and you note that in this
book in previous books, of course, is that nobody wants
to talk about the Jimmy Kimmel and these late night jokers.
And I don't mean that in a comedic sense. I
(28:31):
have lost so much of viewership of their original viewership
because they decided, the Stephen Colberts of the world, the
Jimmy Kimmel's in particular, decided to go all in on
the leftist, you know, as the leftist spokesman in late
(28:52):
night television. People in general don't want to see that,
but they just alienated more than half of their market.
Their ratings were miserable. I would think that ABC and
parent company Disney, which has silenced all kinds of people
as you have written about over the years, I think
(29:13):
they would they would look at this as a great
opportunity to you know, drop an arbit you know, a
anchor around their their next just as CBS. So the
new owners at CBS saw this. But that's what happens.
There is this and every you know, everybody can be
(29:33):
their own victim in an echo chamber. But accountability is
one thing that the left is absolutely dead set against.
And you touch upon that in your book.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, because they haven't had to face it. They never
face it. You know. We even you know, someone like
Donald Trump, who they swore was just going to weaponize
the Justice Department. And I'm talking about in the first
that he was elected back in twenty sixteen. No he said,
because you know, he had said Hillary Clinton was going
she'd be in jail if he was president. But no,
he goes in says, you know, I don't want to
(30:11):
hurt anybody. Let's just drop it. We'll let it go.
That's how the right has behaved for a very long time,
and a lot of us were we felt like that
was the gracious thing to do. But then we've just
seen time and time again that when we're not getting
defamed and smeared by the news, media just absolutely piling
on well meaning, unassuming, even a political people who make,
(30:37):
you know, a transgression without even knowing that they're making
a transgression. Whatever it is, you show up in a
maga hat somewhere, suddenly you're a racist, like you know,
when that's not happening, when the media is not doing
that to us, you had people like Joe Biden coming
in again his Justice Department, harassing people who weren't even
(30:58):
there on January sixth, Harassing people who were parents who
are showing up at school board meetings, Harassing people who
are peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You know, just
over and over again. We we have grown really tired
of that. And if the worst thing that happens is
(31:19):
that Jimmy Kimmel goes on a little bit of a
time out, I would say that they're in pretty good shape.
But speaking of speaking of Jimmy Kimmel, this is this is,
this is the thing here is that I actually enjoy.
I'm not someone who's like, oh, if you're a liberal,
like I can't listen to you, not at all. In fact,
I'm a pretty big fan of Bill Maher. I find
him be funny. I think oftentimes he even makes points
(31:40):
about the rights that should have been that I that
I'll be like, oh, I should have considered that. That's
a good point. I'm not at all closed to those
kinds of things. I'll seek out alternative views. I spend
all my day. If no one ever believes it, it's like, no,
I don't watch Fox News all day. I watch CNN
all day, and I read the New York Times, and
I watched and I let and I read the Washington Post.
That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
What you do, and I I've always said you should
get casualty pay for that.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I have to tell our bosses. Yeah, but that's what
I do. That's that's my job. But I when I
saw the little bits of the Jimmy Kimmel monologue, it
wasn't much different from what I've seen from what I've
seen you know him in Colbert and it's, you know,
the same, just kind of boring anti Trump stuff. But
this one in particular, less than a week after this
(32:25):
guy was shot in the neck in front of children
to go. That's the worst part really. I mean, obviously
there are many bad parts, but I thought, you know,
there are kids that went there to participate in the
American way, the here here opposing views, see a debate.
That's that's engagement, that's civil engagement. And that he could
(32:47):
that Charlie Kirk did that. He deserves so much credit.
But children going and what were they treated to. They
were treated to a public execution in the ugliest way.
And for this guy to go and turn that into
like a joke or an alleged I guess it's his
monologue so I guess it's supposed to be funny, but
he makes the jokes about it, and then on top
of that, he gratuitously, which you could do. You could
(33:09):
get away with this on MSNBC. It would be a
minor outrage and everyone move on. You do it on
a broadcast channel, which is supposed to be at the
word is in the name broad cast, it's supposed to
be broadly appealing, and you say, yeah, the mag of people,
they've reached a new low and they've just been trying
to make it seem like he's not one of them.
That is just so gratuitous and excessive. And you're not
(33:31):
going to tell me that they're not going to get
the media. They are not going to get the public
and up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel because he said
that they're not going to turn this into a free
speech they're just a free speech issue. They're just not people.
Just I really do believe that. And I don't want
to give too much credit to the average American. As
much as I love this country and as good as
(33:52):
I want for people, so I'm not going to give
too much credit. But I really do think they are tired.
They are tired of hearing about how the left gets
to get away with being so ugly and so nasty,
and yet because you want you now want to appeal
to the Constitution in the first Amendment. No, I think
that they've had it, I really do.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah. And the argument that this is that Jimmy Kimmel
is some sort of victim of oppression once again, which
is the terminology they like to you know, that he's
being silenced. The only person in the conversation that we
are having that has literally been silenced and martyred is
(34:34):
Charlie Kirk. That's what's lost in all of this. And
people can say horrible, horrible things, they can say the
most hate field things. I absolutely believe in that, But
I also believe that your employer has the right to
say you're not going to say hateful and horrible things
(34:55):
on our dime. Yeah, also is a consideration, Matt.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
See the tweet that the former president Barack Obama that
he puts out today, I believe and he says something
to the effect of, you know, free speech is an
American right and something we should all partake in. Whether
you're Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
but one of them is dead for exercising his free
speech rights, and the other one is on a suspension.
(35:22):
And for you to in any way equate the two
and equate what the the consequence that both of them faced, again,
that's a that's a total justification for what happened. It
is and it speaks to what I'm talking about in
my book traders, because they really, oh, they are equal,
we'll call that equal. They know what, they know well
(35:43):
it's not. They know well it's not. But they're perfectly
fine with that because they don't see they don't see
everyone as equal. So someone gets taken out, well that's
just fine. Let's talk about the guy who has suspended
from his you know, multimillion dollar job.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
M hmm, absolutely. Yeah. The equivalency game is very fatiguing
and it has been going on in the left for
a long time. And it's silly and it's stupid, but
they have forced through many different channels Americans too tired
Americans to have to buy into this or at least
say please just leave me alone, go do whatever you're
(36:17):
going to do.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's deadly, it's anti American.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It is and I think about Barack Obama, who was
silencing journalists, and I mean, actually, you know, the corporate
journal the corporate media journalists that have been on his side,
he was silencing them. You know. His policies and his
era ended up with all kinds of silencings of conservative
(36:44):
individuals for having a different point of view than the
Obama height. So once again, the hypocrisy is baked in
to the American left at a degree that is astonishing.
One of the things I really enjoy about your book, Eddie, is,
you know, the personalization of your book. You write about
(37:05):
your mother who literally came to this country from Mexico
and a shwed you know, you learning you and your
sibling learning Spanish. She wanted you from the very beginning
to be an American. You are an American and she
(37:25):
is an American, and she went through this whole process,
something that the left doesn't fully understand legally, and so
you write about when she sees, you know, as we've
seen over the last several months, you know, Mexican Americans
waving their you know, their flags, their country flags are
(37:47):
anywhere else. You know, she is mad about that, and
that is you talk about this in context of how
the American left has treated the illegal immigrant as opposed
to the legal immigrant and Americans in general.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh right, you know, if you literally they will fly
out to get you, to bring you into this country
if they can, the illegals. Democrats, that's how they behave
You saw it with the Brago Garcia when Chris van
Holand Democrat of Maryland, literally flies to Al Salvador to
reimport this professed illegal alien, credibly accused of being a
(38:32):
violent gang member, credibly accused of being a wife beater,
and yet someone like my mother they would want to
have nothing to do with. Yes, this was a woman
who Mexican immigrant eventually naturalized under Reagan. She had me
and my sister, and the answers would always change over
the years, like why didn't you teach U Spanish? Because
it kind of became a thing where it would have
(38:52):
been useful, like in you know, certain situations, useful for
jobs eventually, so we kind of wish that we that
we had known. But I understood why she did it eventually,
and she I remember her saying, she said, I'm not
going to go into too much detail about this, but
she said, I didn't want you to be like the
rest of them out there. I remember her saying that,
and I brought it up to here again when I
(39:13):
was writing this part of the book. I said, do
you remember that? Do you remember saying? I said, I
think what you meant was we wouldn't have properly like assimilated.
And she said, yep, and I stand by that. I
still stand by that, and she just she wanted us
to be as American as possible. She is as American
as possible. You would look at me and you would see, like,
I'm not a white person. I'm you know, not the
(39:34):
darkest person, but you would say, he's not really white.
He's something. You would definitely look at her and no,
she's probably some type of Latina, but her English is
she's got just an American accent. Still speaks fluent Spanish,
but American accent. And yeah, when she sees it's been
my whole life. She still does it to this day.
And you know, we'll go to like a Latin heritage
(39:55):
festival or something. I used to hate him as a kid,
but now I enjoy him. We'll go to that kind
of thing. But when it's like the day to day,
just through your life, if you see people with like
a Puerto Rican flag in your in your uh, you know,
in your hanging from your rear view mirror, or you
see it displayed somewhere, or you're wearing that around your neck.
She gets furious. She hates to see it. She says
(40:19):
that you cannot represent another country. Why are you here? Then?
Why are you here?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Go back?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And yeah, just the point of this is to get
across it. And really just the entire first chapter is
that we have a way of living here that is
distinct and unique and it should be celebrated by every
real patriotic American. And it's not you know, it's not ambiguous.
It's not something that we can't define. It's not something
that you don't know. You don't you know. The left
(40:47):
likes to be like, well, what what does it mean
to be an American? You you know it when you
see it. I'm sorry, you know when you see it.
There are other things we definitely know what we have
the Constitution, we have a we have a harrowing, fascinating
hit history here. All those things are important. But you
certainly know an American when you see it, and you
know American behavior and conduct and someone who really subscribes
(41:09):
to the American way, and the left just completely rejects
it all. And and worst of it all is the
way they do it in their policies, the way the
way that they're they excuse and exacerbate crime, the way
that they care nothing of order at least for at
least for the people who don't have the money, who
(41:30):
don't have the access to power to get it. And
that's that's really the shame in that party is that
they they and it's their voters sadly they cast them
aside and say, you deal with it, you live, you
live in the filth. I'm gonna I'm going to live
in my gated community. Uh, I'm close to the government.
I'm going to fly private. You get to deal with
(41:51):
all the garbage that that all of my policies have
created anti American because they don't believe in the equality.
They don't believe everyone should have the same things or
access to the same thing that they do.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
One thing I know for certain, your mother is an
exceptional American. And you know what, The pride in America
has been so shot up by the left over the
last several years. You note in your book that the
left always likes to talk about America as an idea,
(42:23):
you know, a concept. It is. First of all, what
the left has forgotten is that America is a geography
as well. It is a land, it is a country,
and without borders, it cannot be that. And that's what
they're absolutely trying to do. Erase those borders. And what
(42:44):
they're trying to do with that is sell Americans on
the idea that America is an evil place. And that
is what I think breaks so many Americans hearts. So
I ask you this as we close, where do we
go from here with that kind of mentality from a
(43:08):
significant portion of America.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I really believe, and we have our colleagues do a
really great job of writing about this. John Daniel Davidson
wrote a piece just a couple of days ago about
how we can't share this country anymore and what that
means is that we have to win all of it.
We have to win it. They can live here, but
(43:34):
it can't be theirs in the sense of them having
power and control in the big ways that they have
had it, in the ways that they've wielded that power
and control that have torn this country down. And I
really do believe that that is going to take all people,
all average ordinary Americans of in their every They're going
(43:59):
to have to start caring a lot more. They're going
to have to start saying, Okay, I've tried to be accommodating.
I have tolerated the anti social, anti American behavior of
people in my life who I've known. And this isn't
about cutting people off, but it is about standing up
to those attitudes, those tendencies, the neuroses of the American left.
(44:23):
Because they do they the way that they are so
comfortable with conflict and contention in their personal lives and
their everyday lives. It has to be that the people
like us, the real Americans, the people who love this
country and don't want to see it disappear, they have
to say I'm not dealing with that, and that's enough,
and no, I don't agree with you, and you're wrong,
(44:43):
and here's why you're wrong, and it's enough. Otherwise we're
not going to have a relationship anymore. And you don't
want that. You don't want people limiting their social circles,
limiting their family circles. I don't want that for anybody.
But you're going to see this country disappear if you
don't start standing up for what you believe and loudly
doing it.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think to put it into terms that we've all
dealt with over our lifetimes, we deal with a lot of,
or plenty of in our lives drama queens or drama kings,
and you know, that's a lot of people have chosen to,
you know, either sever those relationships or try to redefine them.
But you can't change those people that mentality. So it's
(45:27):
going to take again. I think you're absolutely right, a
unification of the Saine. That's a word that you use
multiple times in this book. We have to get back
to sanity and reality, which is something the left has
been protesting against for a mighty long time. Thanks to
(45:49):
my guest today, Eddie Scary, DC columnist at The Federalist
and author of the new book Traders, the Democrat Parties
collapse into anti American filth. You've been listening to another
edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior
Elections correspondent at The Federalist. We'll be back soon with more.
(46:09):
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