October 22, 2025 • 58 mins
Join Washington Examiner Senior Writer David Harsanyi and Federalist Editor-In-Chief Mollie Hemingway as they analyze the freakout over President Donald Trump's White House ballroom build, dive into the "No Kings" protests, discuss the NYC mayoral race, and wonder if the House Judiciary Committee's prosecution referral for former CIA Director John Brennan will go anywhere. Mollie and David also examine the Louvre jewel heist and share their culture reviews for the week.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were
Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist
and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just
as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,
please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Molly,
did you see the candidate Maine who accidentally got a
Nazi tattoo? At one point?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So, I've seen a little bit about this person. I
feel like he was in the news for having what
was this, like one of the many people who are
being outed for bad texts or something.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He did that as well. Yeah, his name is me
is a Graham Planter. He's a candidate for the Democratic
Senate seat in Maine. I believe he is. I bet
I believe the other person running is like an old
seventy eight year old governor, is it? But one had
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out at him with it's not even a Nazi tattoo.
It's actually an SS tattoo. It's that skull with the crossbones.
It's called like a totten com or something like that.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. He came
out and said, I'm not a secret Nazi when he
was on pod Saves America. That podcast reminded me slightly
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if I am not a witch. I don't know. It's
a while back for people. What is that Delaware?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Christine? Christine? What O'donald?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh? Yeah, I think so where that come from?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I think that's right. I A lot so some
people have defended him, saying, listen, if you walk into
a tattoo parlor, you know, and you just get something
that looks cool, it's probably going to be. Now he
apparently got this in Croatia while he was in the Marines.
I think, I say that's bs. I mean, if you
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don't know over the years you've lived, right, and you
have this tattoo that is in movie after movie as
a clear Nazi insignia SS insignia, and no one's mentioned
that to you, I just I don't buy it. I'm listen.
I'm not saying the guy's in Nazi today, But you know,
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if you mark yourself in that way, I think it
says something about you. And if you didn't know, I
don't think really that you should be a US senator.
I feel like maybe that's not the job for you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't know. I mean, I really feel like I
need to know more about this person in their life,
but so I know very little, and I apologize that,
but I want to say that I did read that
he The reason why we have pictures of this tattoo
that he got is because it was a wedding that
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he gave his brother and his brother's wife or his
sister and her husband or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well two songs. Oh, I heard it to.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Sing a Taylor Swift song or a Miley cyrus song
with his shirt off at their wedding, And I think
that's a bigger problem than the tattoo. In a way,
Eddie's scary was saying, like, what a horrible wedding gift
to make someone else's wedding be all about you and
people having to watch you uncomfortably.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I think that's a good point. I have long maintained
that too many people are taking their shirts off in public.
I think that the people who want to be naked
are the last people we want to see naked. I
think that this guy from the pictures I saw of
him singing Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball in the two thousand
and seven wedding, which is also in Croatia. You tell
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me no net that wedding's like, hey, bro, why do
you have a Nazi tattoo right with the shirt off?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is it a common one? I saw it. It's like
a skull, But is that a common win or does
it read like tough guy, military guy?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
To me? Like?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
How do people? How many symbols are there? I'm familiar
with the swastika and the.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I mean if you watch if you watch Inglorious Bastards
or if you watch like any well, there you go,
they'll have the SS insignia. It's pretty famous. I just
don't buy his story. I think it's it's it's ridiculous.
And also I think if you have a tattoo like that,
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like who was it? Pete Heseth? You know he has
all these tattoos and people were trying to pretend that
they were some kind of you know, white supremacist tattoos.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
They were like the.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Right, that's yeah, that those are like I'm a tough guy,
you know tattoos or you know that those tattoos say
something and they might make people on the left kind
of uncomfortable, but I've seen them all over.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I say, we have Jerusalem crosses at my church were
not tough. By tough.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What I mean is he's got more than that, you know.
I mean, he's got you know, it's a certain aesthetic.
I think that says like I was in the armed
forces or I'm you know, like this and it looks
like it's the only one he has. I mean, let's
be honest. I'm kind of sick of giving everyone the
benefit of the doubt on this sort of thing. Hey,
you want to vote for the guy. I'm sure he's
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changed his mind. I think he's like a far left
wing guy is and he you know, you want to
vote for him. Both for him, I don't care. But
let's not pretend here.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I just want to say, in addition to me having
a problem with him singing the Miley Cyrus song, I
also remember Mark Hemingway's greatest piece, America has a tattoo problem.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Or we've got to do something about America's tattoo problem.
And I frequently want to become a tattoo consultant who
just helps people not get tattoos.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Basically, let's dive in on that. I walk around here
and you know, in the summer, and people have a
lot of tattoos as some of them look cool and
I'm impressed, and some of them I like, you are nice,
you know, And many times, or more often than ever,
it doesn't seem like people are putting a lot of
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thought into wear on their body. They're placing them. They're
just like throwing them on all over. They're not very
well done, and I find it really Listen, I'm an
old guy, but I find it pretty un I find
it unattractive in general, the way people place their tattoos.
Am I wrong about this? Am I imagining this?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know. My niece and godchildhood I love very
much gotten a tattoo when her grandpa died, her dad's dad,
and I was like, are you gonna have to do
that now? When everybody dies? Like it didn't seem that
she had gamed out how it's going to work over
the long haul. But on the other hand, she's in
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Colorado and like everybody there has so many tattoos. It's
like no big deal.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I see a young person without a tattoo, I'm impressed,
Like I'm impressed. They're they're like bucking the trend, it
seems to me. And another thing is I see a
lot of people now up their next I sound like
such an old man, but like invading their facial area,
Like to me, you're just a gang banger. Now. I
don't even understand what people are doing anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I once we had this guy that was I was
living with my girlfriend and there was a guy that
we were letting stay there, or he was a friend
of another one of our roommates or something, and he
wasn't paying rent, and he offered to pay in tattoos
because he had a tattoo machine, and my friend took
him up on it. I was like, we don't need
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any money, Like I'm not getting a free tattoo from
a guy we're letting crash here at our apartment in Denver.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And listen, I know I have friends with tattoos and
relatives of tattoos and all that. I can't even if
I wanted one. I don't think I could land on
an image that I'd wanted my body forever. I couldn't
really decide what to do in that way. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I worked with this lady at a real estate office,
and she said that anything that like you're tempted to do,
you should just wait till you're fifty. So she had
never done any drugs and she's like, I'm not really
going to do it, but if I'm going to do it,
I'll wait till i'm fifty. And same thing with a tattoo,
And that's one way to approach it too.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Don't do cocaine until you're seventy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Then well you've heard have you heard nor McDonald's thing
on that where you're like, when you're young, You're like,
I'll wait to eighty and I'll do heroin, Like you're
going to be less scared of things, when in truth,
you're just way more scared of things. And he talks
about is how is his grandmother had like this massive
black and blue and he's like, what happened grandma? She's
like the wind, you know, So let's talk about that
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for a moment. Have these people thought through what these
tattoos are going to look like when you're seventy, because
it is not going to be as you know, pretty,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Do you have any idea how much hate mail we're
going to get here? I know because Mark always gets
hate mail for his tattoo piece, mostly from his own
family or my family but we're going to get email
from all of our listeners who are like, no, I
have a beautiful tattoo. It's the best ever.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Some of them, honestly, some of them I'm impressed, or
some of them, I'm like, this looks nice. I get it.
But that is rare these days for me. Do what
you want though. It's America. You want to look like,
you want to look that way. Do what you gotta do.
All right. That was one story I wanted to hit.
Another story I wanted to hit today was the Donald J.
Trump ballroom freak out. On this weekend, or maybe it
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was Monday. We're taping this Tuesday at you know, late
there were pictures started to circulate of the East wing
having some renovations, big renovations, like they're tearing down walls,
and the entire left freaks out. Now, before we get
into the specifics of this, I just want to say,
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it is insufferably boring to deal with people who are
freaked out every day about everything. All the time. I'm
in waves of anger and hysteria, which I doubt is
even real about everything that's going on. Every president does
some renovations of the White House, you know, I look
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it up. I mean, like virtually every single one. And
it's all performative. And this came a day after the
No Kings protest, which we'll talk about in a moment.
So here's the deal, Donald Trump, apparently, and you will
know more about this than me. I'm sure the White
House doesn't often have enough room for the sorts of
events it puts on, so they have tents on the
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lawn and stuff like that. So Donald Trump's building this
ballroom which is going to house six hundred and fifty
or have room for six hundred and fifty people. It
cost around two hundred million. And I loved how all
these Democrats were like, we have a big you know,
look at the debt, and this is what Donald Trump's doing. Well,
it's all private money and it'll be done pretty soon,
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you know. I'm sure it'll get done in a real
patively quick period of time. And it seems to me
not to be a big deal at all. What say you,
Molly Hemingway.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh my gosh, Well, one of my former students, who's
the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller or was she?
I think she was a student Hellsdale student at the
very least Reagan. Reese was saying that when she walked
into the White House today, there was a construction worker
who was bringing in like slabs of concrete or material
or whatever, and he was telling the security that President
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Trump had asked to see these, and they had to clarify, like, oh,
he's really taking that hands on of an approach. Of
course he is. He is a builder, so he's really
interested in that kind of thing. The White House is
it actually needs to be massively overhauled. And I hope
that whoever is president next will work to overhaul the
West wing too. So this East wing is so small
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you can't really hold functions like you need to. If
you've been at parties there, it's not that big, you know,
and it's hard to get everybody in. And it's not
that I mean, it's beautiful, but not it's not like
European places, And so I could see it being improved upon.
The West wing is so cramped, and I think that's
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what also needs to be improved upon. So hopefully someone
else will do it. But Mark Hemingway had said that
I saw him tweet that it wasn't so much that
anyone really objected to constructing a White House ballroom. It's
that people are agitated that they have to deal with
a permanent reminder that Trump was ever president. And then
after he tweets this, one of those people at the
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Bulwark said that next time a Democrat is elected president,
they have to tear they have to raise the Trump
ballroom and restore the White House to pre Trump's status.
And he said, you have to tear down the physical
manifestations of authoritarianism. Yes, an improved ballroom is definitely a
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manifestation of authoritarianism. But it was just like, it's hard
to know how to deal with people who are so
deranged that they can't just accept, They can't just objectively
analyze should this White House always remain in the same
state or can't be improved upon? Can it be improved
upon by any president? Or does it have to be
one that I voted for? You know, it's just weird.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What is in a manifestation of Trump's authoritarianism? You know,
they they've lost all credibility because they freak out and
melt down about everything. So even when there's a real
thing to melt down about, no one's even really listening anymore.
I don't think they are.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But I do. I want to say, since I just
mentioned the Bulwark, I never read it. I've never found
it to have you know, anything that draws me in.
But I did read a piece yesterday and it was
unintentionally high hilarious. It was an overly long, incredibly detailed
story about a guy who had that day left the
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Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I love that story.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Did you read it, Yes, it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The funny thing is not that he left the party
and these I love these people. I've never been like
a registered Republican in my life. I can't imagine being
like today. I renounced the party. But the funny thing
about it was he left for a bunch of reasons
that Reaganites wanted to happen. Like he left because the
Supreme Court was upholding you know, the law.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, specifically, he said he left because the Supreme Court
overturned Roe, which is something that multiple legs of the
Reagan stool, as you just pointed out, had long fought
for for fifty years. You had pro lifers who hated
Roe because of how it made it impossible to protect
any unborn life. We also had just constitutional conservatives who
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may or may not have been pro life who recognized
it as a really bad decision that was polluting the
entire Supreme Court jurisprudence.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, it brought his amber to uphold it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You had to like do insane stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And yeah, sorry, no, no, you're fused together the social
conservative wing and the sort of legal federalist society wing.
I mean this is this was a project, an ongoing
project for many, many years. I think a worthy one,
of course, So the idea that you're leaving because this
project has finally been realized. Also, by the way, years
after I didn't even know what this guy is. I
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don't know what a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But wait, that's what I want to get to. But
first I just want to say he said specifically because
he believed a conspiracy theory that's not true, that overturning
Rob Wade removed like fertility treatments or something, I mean,
which is just not true. And I guess if you
read left wing publications like that, you don't know what
the truth is. But it's really embarrassing that that made
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it to publication. And then he also said he believed
in the very fine people both sides hoaxed that had
been debunked years ago, so he's not getting very good information.
But the kicker is you get this really long story
about how he's left because the conservative movement finally achieved
things that they'd always said they'd wanted to achieve, and
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they published it like it's a big thing. And it's
a guy I don't even remember his name, but he
was a low level fundraiser at a digital fundraising firm
I'd never heard of. So we went from first Trump
administration where you'd have like Governor Chris Christie, you know,
denouncing Trump or you know, big names or whoever. His predecessor, Christine.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, I mean Anonymous. It was a similar sort of guy, right, Anonymous,
remember that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Book Anonymous by comparison, Actually it's huge. It was at
least a Trump appoint or you know, had been hired
in the Trump administration. This guy is. It was embarrassing
how nobody he was and how they were trying to
push it out. But I thought it was kind of
a good sign that this is what they're resorting to.
(16:58):
You've got a ton of people leaving the Democrat Party,
according to studies, or not wanting to identify with them.
They're so extreme that they're losing a lot of their centrists,
even if they're not becoming Republican, they're just not wanting
to associate with Democrats. And then in exchange you get
you lose a no name direct mail writer or whatever.
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I don't even know what he did, but like, who cares?
Is so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The self aggrandizing, like denouncement of an entire party is
so dumb. Like write a column about what you don't
like or do like or whatever, make an argument. No
one gives a crap who what your card says or
what party you're in. I don't think they do. And
it's just I mean, maybe the Bulwark readers do. I
don't really read that publication. I have to be honest.
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What did I want to? Oh? Yeah, so let's just
go back to the ballroom unless you have something else
to say. Ony person, his name, his name, we don't
even know and can't remember. But you said. Well, first
of all, let me read some tweets that made me
laugh out loud, and one was from Hillary Clinton, who
just is a gift if the keeps giving. It's not
his house, it's your house, and he's destroying it. That's
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what Hillary Clinton said, Now, some of us who are older,
remember that Hillary Clinton, the first couple of the nineties,
rented out the Lincoln bedroom like they were an old
West tavern owners, right like to anyone who came by
for money. And then I don't know if you remember this,
they stole the furniture and the tableware and the dishes.
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They took it the people's dishes and furniture. I don't
know if you remember this. It was like twenty k
worth and they had to send it back with an apology.
I mean, they were stealing stuff from the people's house.
I only bring this up because this idea that they
hold this place sacred, you know, and that the people's
house and all this. I mean, who treated the White
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House worse than the Clinton's I mean what, I don't
even want to get into what happened in there, the debauchery.
So but I also like Maria Schreier saying that this
breaks my heart and it infuriates me. Hundreds of millions
of dollars to build a new ballroom. Good God, Now
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this is President John F. Kennedy's niece, right, if Kamala
had won the presidency and built a new ballroom, these
people would be celebrating it as the next Camelot, you know,
as you know, we'd be hearing about the designers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And if it were paid for privately, I don't think
you would hear criticism from people who are conservative unless
the design was bad, you know what I mean, Like
it's just weird.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Did you see the Obama Library design? I did look
something that I love North Korea.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Love how truthful it is in terms of it being ugly. Also,
did you see that there's a whole wall of text
no carved into the outside and someone did someone put
it next to a picture where it says the left
can't mean and it's just a wall of script because
the right will do really stupid, funny memes that immediately
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get the point across using imagery, and the left will
just do these overly long in this house, we believe,
you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It was his? Do I have this right? I could?
This might be wrong, but didn't he give the Queen
of England as a gift like his best speeches on
an iPod or something? I mean, he's so anyway. Last
thing I want to say about this is you said
that the White House is not like European halls which
are big.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Or which is good. I don't mean that in a
bad way, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I know, well, I'm just saying if the if the
point here was from the left that hey, you know,
we're Americans and we have Republican values, you know, and
and we you know, and and there's modesty, so we
should just have exactly that would be different. I'm with them.
I think we treat d C to I wish we
didn't have big parties there. I don't want any of that.
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But they love d C. They love the parties, they
love that stuff, and they just hate Donald Trump's done it.
So I think Mark Scott that right.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I was wondering, do you know if they will still
do Christmas decorations this year?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Why do you ask me that? And how would I know?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know. I'm just wondering if that this will
disrupt the Christmas decoration. Oh also reminds me of one
of my favorite things from Milania. It's such a sad
thing that she had a friend who betrayed her and
oh yeah, like voice conversations that they'd had, which meant
she was recording her which was awful. But she had
said something about how much she hated doing the Christmas decorations,
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how it was, and how she or she'd like maybe
she hated the criticism that she got for them or something.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, I remember that. I don't remember all the specifics,
but I wrote about it because it did actually upset me,
because it felt to me like she was just voicing
frustration and a lot of work that she had to
do wasn't anything, you know, very ugly anyway, And and
and it had nothing to do with politics and the
idea that all these stay every you know, everyone's running
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with these tapes thin it was import formed. There was
only real journalistic reason to do it. But look who
we're talking about, right all right? East? Okay, no Kings
just quickly. I mean, what made me laugh about that?
First of all, I don't think protests mean very much. Honestly,
I've always thought this. I also don't think that protests
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are very American in a way. I just I don't
think that's how Again, Republican governance is about getting into
a street just because I can have millions of people
in a mob saying something it doesn't shouldn't really matter.
But anyway, what makes me laugh about it is that
they were protesting the thing the norms that they created.
For the most part, they are the ones who made
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President's king. Obama is the one who made a president king.
Joe Biden's the one who went on Twitter and tried
to add an amendment to the Constitution through tweet, not
Donald Trump. I don't like everything Donald Trump does. I
think that he uses the executive branch more aggressively than
i'd like, and some things I think are wrong, but
I think that he's working within the framework that was
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created by Barack Obama. Now, if they want to change that,
they should worry about that when they're in power, just
like Republicans who don't like it should worry about it
when Trump's in power. I don't know. Sounds a little
bit idealistic, but that's the only way to fix the
no King's problem, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I just want to talk about the no Kings protests
in general, so that they did want one of these
in June, and I think it was designed to be
kind of related to the efforts to stop ice enforcement
in LA. They were doing big riots. Oh yeah, so
LA was doing riots, which I just like to remind
people those riots inorganically stopped. Maybe they inorganically started, but
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they stopped in a way that we're not accustomed to
seeing with riot movements like BLM. The moment DJ said
they were going to start investigating the funding of those riots,
it just like went away. It was weird, but they
had launched the first No Kings protests around those riots,
and I thought, Okay, well here we go. We're gonna
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have another summer of love and violence and hatred and
George Floyd two point zero. And then it just didn't happen.
They had a big turnout of older white people. In
most cases, like you looked at this past weekends No
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King's protest and it could be Atlanta or Philadelphia, and
it wasn't that there were zero black people or people
of color, but it was very few, very very few.
And then the crowds itself seemed to be just older.
And that matched with my experience. I was out on
Saturday walking down King Street in Alexandria. Virginia has a
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town Alexandria that's older than the country, and the streets
are named like King, Duke, Prince, Yeah, very royal names.
And there was an elderly man walking past us with
a sign that said no Kings and my kid wanted
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to pretend that they thought that this guy was protesting
the street we were on, and I said, let's not.
You know, we don't need to interact here.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
These people are a little crazy. Yeah, well do you remember?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sorry, no, No. I was just going to say, I
just don't think there's any kind of central cause really
here other than Donald Trump, which is just doesn't work anymore.
That's why there's no there's no woman's rights, abortion here,
you know, stuff here, There's no it's it's just a
bunch of people were angry that Donald Trump won the election.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, So first off, I just want to say the
idea that this guy was protesting King Street was reminding
me of the jerk you know, when the guy is
trying to shoot him and he keeps hitting all the
oil cans, and Steve Martin's character is like he must
hate these cans, and so I just kept thinking, like,
they must really hate King Street. But to your point, yeah,
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I had no idea what was organizing them. Also, we
have gone through, gosh, it's about almost ten years of
the left hating the American founding, hating it, trying to
destroy it, supporting kneeling when the national anthem is played,
burning down statues, removing statues, teaching all of our children
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that America is an evil country that should not be loved,
that patriotism is bad. And then all of these people
get out there and they're like wearing George Washington stuff
and claiming to believe in the Constitution. And I'm like, you, guys,
I don't believe you. Like I wish you were. I
wish you were that way, but I really genuinely don't
believe it. And also I don't think they realize how
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much they messed up by being so anti patriotic. Unpatriotic,
but anti patriotic too.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean a person who picks up the New York Times,
which a lot of liberals do, older liberals, probably around Alexandria,
for instance, and read the sixteen nineteen Project which tells
them that the American Founding was just a war to
preserve slavery, which is completely astore, not even a historical
it just mythology. And now I'm supposed to pretend they
care about George Washington, Madison and all these people that
(27:20):
I don't buy it for a second. The even now
in the New York Times, I'm just using them. They're
my straw man. Right now. There's a piece the other
week about how we need to get rid of the Senate,
we need to get rid of the electoral college, we
need to get rid of what else was it, you know,
all this stuff. Essentially, they want to create a centralized
democracy because they think they're going to win that way
(27:40):
and been doing it forever. So I don't believe them
at all. And you're right about the statues if you're listen.
We've said this before and people get mad. But I
can tell who the Democrats are where I live and
who the Republicans are by who flies an American flag.
I'm sorry, That's just how it is. And until that changes,
and we both you know, both sides, and that doesn't
(28:02):
mean that the people are Republicans in my view at
least are doing everything right, or that they're always adhering
to the Constitution. But let's be honest about who cares
about that. So they just hate that Donald Trump got elected.
That's it. Speaking of hating America, Let's talk about Zoar Mamdani,
the candidate for mayor of New York. I would like
(28:26):
to preface all this by saying that cities elect ridiculous
people for mayor all the time. Right, I don't want
to make a bigger deal out of this than it is.
We have to remember he's running against he ran against
a corrupt mayor. He's running against a corrupt and failed
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governor who is long his due date is over right,
And he's running against Curtis lia who I know. I
grew up with him around. I think he's kind of
just a publicity hound. I don't I think he's a
serious person. I don't think he seriously thinks about anything.
I also think he's a fraud. The Guardian Angels I
was so into them when I was young, but it
(29:08):
turned out a lot of their stories were made up
in fake and you know whatever. So he's not exactly
running against any kind of formidable opposition. And it's New
York City, so how many Republicans are actually going to run?
But my problem is that a ton of elite Democrats
and basically the entire progressive wing of the party has
backed this guy and normalized what he says and made
(29:30):
him basically the I don't know the model for how
people are supposed to be running in the country, right.
I bring him up because he met with this imom
in Brooklyn who said terrible the usual terrible stuff. I mean,
I have to say. People are saying he was an
unindicted co conspirator in the ninety three World Trade Center bombing.
(29:53):
I don't think that's true. I don't think he was.
The people who went to his mosque were involved. He
defended those people after he said terrible things. But I
don't think he was an unindicted co consert. But it
doesn't really matter anyway. I don't know where I'm going
with this other than to say that I think he's
going to win. Even if Slee was stepped out, I
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think he's going to win, and I think that boats
poorly for the future of the left.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I was just thinking about it. I was actually talking
on Fox about how there's a push for Curtis Sliwa
to drop out since he has no chance of winning,
and he's becoming an impediment to Cuomo having a chance
at winning is quite an impediment, actually, But I think
even if he removed himself from the race, I think
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his name is still going to be on the ballot,
and I don't think it would really make much of
a difference. I agree with you that mom Donnie is
going to win, but I also resent being told that
Governor Cuomo is in any way an acceptable alternative to
mom Donnie. I mean, the guy speaking of no kings
and authoritarianism and tyranny. The dude was very bad as
(31:07):
governor during COVID. He had really bad restrictions. He had
bad policies, you know, that led to people dying. I
think his administration was even under investigation for what they
did with the nursing homes during COVID. He told pro
lifers to leave the state. He's a bigot. He is
responsible for a lot of Republicans leaving New York and
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the idea that this is what the options are. It's
just a very bad thing. And by the way, I
would probably vote for him if I were a New
York City resident, you know, given the alternative. You're correct
that people shouldn't overread a mom Donnie when given how
bad the opposition is. But I also think that people,
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particularly those on the right, should be at least a
little concerned about why mom Donnie is popular in New York.
Part of it is he just seems to like the
city more than the people he's running against, and I
think that works in a mayoral election. But also we
have some concerns growing with the difficulty that younger people
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have buying houses, buying things. And I always think of
that thing Greg Connolly says, which is, you're not going
to have a conservative movement if young people can't buy houses.
And so you have to be thinking constantly about how
to make sure that life is a certain way of
life is worth conserving for a conservative movement to work,
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and the right just should be mindful of that and
how things have become more difficult for young people in
some cases.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I agree with you on Cuomo. I mean, I think
he's one of the worst people in your politics in
a long time, and that is saying something I don't
buy the way. And I agree with you that housing
is important, Affordability is important. It's not going to happen
in Manhattan. You know, It's never been really affordable there.
(33:10):
There's no place to build. I'm sorry, that's just physics.
If you want to build, you need to move somewhere else.
You can't live in Washington, you can't live in New York.
It's not just here. It's across Europe, you know, I mean,
major cities are super expensive. You have to build elsewhere.
Most of the building problem, I think, at least for
world i've read, is a state problem. It's a municipality problem.
(33:31):
It's a city problem. People don't let you build more.
That's one thing. But I don't buy for a second
that mom Donnie is speaking in some language. Every mayoral
candidate's spoken about rents being too high. There was literally
a candidate who just said the rents are too damn high.
It's not a new topic. I don't buy for a
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second that he's this charismatic guy. I believe that many
New Yorkers, some immigrants, and many of the socialists, you know,
the the well pretty well off people who are in
rich areas in Brooklyn and elsewhere, who come often from
other places around the country and congregate in New York.
They like him because he's a socialist. They want some
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free stuff, they want a free bus, you know. They
like him, I'm sorry, because he is a Muslim and
they think it's cool to vote for one. This is
why he's popular. And he's young, right, There's always an
energy in youth that you're not going to get for
Cuomo Como was old entireties. Yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I did see that recent polls showed that if only
men were voting, the non Mum Donnie candidates were like
two to one versus Mom Donnie, and that native born
voters like overwhelmingly rejected Mom Donnie, but that non native
born voters overwhelmingly supported him.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I mean, this has always been the problem with the
New York and the mayor's race. You know, you have
Staten Island, and you had certain parts of Brooklyn which
were still working class in normal and there are fewer
and fewer of those places left. People have been priced out,
they moved to Long Island, they moved to other places
and which are more more conservative. So that's always been
the case. But I just don't buy this idea. Like
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everyone in the media, you know, in the in the
legacy media talks about him like this, you know, candidate
that needs to be aped by everyone else. He so
successfully knows how to speak to people, But no one
talks about John Fetterman. Why not ape him? I mean,
he is a person who is popular in a state
that Donald Trump want. He's a Democrat, right, No, it's
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got to be the guy in the New York City
who appeals to people who live in Park Slope. I mean,
it's just insanity, I think for them. Though, we cannot
disregard the fact that that kind of socialistic rhetoric, the
frankly the promas rhetoric, and the other stuff that he
does is very popular with a certain segment, and it's
a growing segment, and there's no way around that, and
(35:57):
I think that bodes poorly for America just in general.
I don't want to again overstate his importance, but he's
not alone, right, You have Bernie, you have AOC, you
have others. I mean, AOC could be a senator. It's
not out of the realm of possibility that you would
become a senator.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I do think that smart people should work to
thwart the worst impulses of mom Donnie. He has said
some really radical and awful things on the campaign trail.
I think there's a lot of concern that he would
not protect the civil rights of Jewish New Yorkers. There
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are concerns that he would improperly use government resources to
compete against private business owners like bodega owners, as he
wants to set up a socialized healthcare thing. The safety
of the citizens by opening up buses so that, you know,
even worse problems happen there in terms of people on
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public transit. But one thing I learned from the left
they have spent this first year of the Trump administration.
I think it was the New York Times the Washington
Post said the only effective thing, that's the only thing
that's effective for the left right now is the law
fair against Trump. So the moment he says, Okay, I'm
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president in a constitutional republic, people who work for me
can be fired by me. I'm firing this person, and
all of a sudden, they you know, they circuit shop
an effort to keep that from happening, and it works,
and they stall, delay, thwart everything he's doing. Well, if
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you can do that for things that are totally constitutional,
how much more should smart people be doing it to
protect small business owners like bodega owners in New York
or you know, grandmothers who are on the bus, Like,
shouldn't there be efforts to protect them?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Also, how do you mean you mean employing law here
against mom done to stop.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Absolutely, Like it's hard to fight people like that. If
you can do it, like the Democrat Party has done,
in unison against Trump. Why can't people who care about
the free market or care about rule of law also
work to thwart They should just be on guard. They
(38:23):
should be on mom donning and watch like, Okay, you
want to have this inappropriate socialist thing to compete against
small business owners. We're going to We're going to see
what we can do to stop you legally.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I have so many things to say. I guess one
part of me is like, Okay, this is what you
guys wanted have it. Let's see how it works out
for you. Let's see how your free busses work out.
Let's see how your socialized supermarket supermarkets work out while
you rich people live on the east side or west
side whatever. Another part of me is like, I'm you know,
a New York native and twenty years a generation after
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twenty five years, almost a generation after nine to eleven, Mom,
Donnie's going to be mayor of New York, a person
who makes excuses for terrorists and all of this stuff.
And then you know, online people say you're Islamophobic, which
is like a stupid, cowardly word that doesn't mean anything.
I am. I am phobic of bad ideas of a
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certain kind of thinking. I should be able to criticize them,
just as I could criticize Christian ideas or Jewish ideas
if I felt like it. But anyway, I think that
what kind of lawfare can you use to stop him?
I mean, he won the Democratic primary fairly, you know,
the Republicans stop him.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Stop him from running. I totally think people should have
every right to vote for him and all that I'm saying.
If he proposes doing something that's a violation of people
civil rights.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Sue and sue and sue and sue. Yeah, I get that.
I mean, let's be honest, it's very difficult for a
person who believes in any kind of system to deal
with democratic socialists because democratic parts just there until they
have power, then they'll do whatever they want to do.
They're consequentialists. They don't care about the laws, all about
the endgame, right, So I agree. I mean, I don't know,
(40:12):
I don't know how you can stop him.
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Speaker 1 (40:53):
Speaking of breaking the law, I think that my segues
are great today because speaking of Britain laws, La Moodless,
let's talk about John Brennan. Apparently there's a report that
that that the You'll correct me if I'm wrong, but
Congress is asking the DOJ to not investigate but indict him.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Correct yeah too, Yeah, they are for a line to them,
which he apparently did. I have seen so many referrals
from Congress for things that haven't happened. I mean, I
remember Lindsey Graham, of all people, sent over a criminal
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referral about Christopher Steele line to Congress, and nothing ever
happened with that. I mean, obviously it wouldn't have happened
because he sent it to a DJ that was completely
corrupted by that time.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, just because someone deserves to be in jail doesn't
mean that you have the evidence, you know, in a
legal sense, to put him there. I just want to
say that it seems when I read about this story.
This is from twenty seventeen, Brennan led that the CIA
did not use any information from the Steel report, but
it exists in an annex right if I have the
wording right, And isn't it going to be incredibly difficult
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to prove that the wording he used, which is a
little merely mouthed, like, is it going to be incredibly
hard to get a jury to convict someone on unlying
to Congress even if you went moved forward with this
when it's like an appendix that it's in that it's
not that he can just say it wasn't really part
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of how we conducted business, that it was just sort
of supporting evidence or whatever. I don't know what the
defense will be. It seems to me like it's a
pretty flimsy case, not because I don't think it's ripe,
because there's really no way to go after someone so powerful.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So I don't know. First off, one of the problems
is that these things take place in Washington, DC, or
the Eastern District of Virginia, which are overwhelmingly left wing
jury pools. So even if you can get an indictment,
which can be hard, getting a conviction is even harder.
But it is also true that that Hipsie report that
(43:21):
came out in July is absolutely explosive. When we were
covering the Russia colusion hoax, we thought of it mostly
as an FBI thing. The Hipsy report shows that it
was absolutely a CIA thing, and it shows how he
overruled multiple permanent staff of the CIA to get this
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included and for it to be used to paint a
false picture of the Russia collusion hoax. And that was
him doing it much more. I mean, Komi had his
own problems and obviously was playing around with the dossier
to begin with, but the weaponization of the dossier was
really done by Brennan, and it was done through this
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by putting it in as an annex and also citing
they would make these outlandish claims and they would say
for more on this, read the annex or you know.
And he he played around with that dossier in really
bad form. But I will also say he did worse
things in that intelligence report then just use the dossier.
(44:38):
He also brought in all sorts of other unvetted evidence
that he was personally controlling that didn't go through the
normal procedures that you would for when evidence comes in
about something where you put a lot of eyes on
it and sort of make sure you have a rigorous
review of what it could mean and the quality of
the information. He kept it strictly held. He briefed personally
(45:04):
members of the Gang of Eight, giving each member of
the Gang of Eight a different briefing based on whether
they were Democrat or Republican. He the only evidence of
there was so much evidence, there was overwhelming evidence from
a multiplicity of sources saying that Russia had no preference
(45:26):
in the election. But he said he had like personal
knowledge of this one guy and it was all based
on this phrase where he said Putin was counting on
Trump to win, but five analysts looked at it, looked
at it, and had five different responses to it. Namely,
this was being uttered right before the Republican convention that
was being contested by Ted Cruz and others, and Putin
(45:48):
was counting on Trump to win, not chounting on it
like I'm controlling it or I'm you know, just he
thought Trump would win, and he was right. Trump did
easily win, and that was just a the Russia collusion hoax.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Sorry, just as a Ryan. In the twenty sixteen email, Brennan,
while disregarding his deputy, said the deputy said that the
credibility of the entire paper would be undermined by including
that information. Meaning it's almost as if he's like, we
need to get Trump, but if we put this in there,
it's going to make it even worse. I mean, that's
how I read it. I don't know or not that's
true or not. And his answer was, my bottom line
(46:24):
is that I believe that information warrants inclusion in the report,
which does show that he knew it was in there.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Right, But again, he was the one who ran that
intelligence document. Remember we were covering this like a couple
months ago. Obama was about to be briefed that Russia
had not successfully interfered in the election. The FBI says,
we change our mind, We're not signing on to this.
There's a secret meeting with all the spy chiefs and
they come up with this plan that they will do
(46:50):
a new intelligence report, something that would normally take like
a year or maybe even two years, and instead they
rush it out in a matter of weeks. And you know,
Brendan Comene Clapper are all involved in this, like complete
manufacturing of evidence. And then when Congress is asking about it,
they give these mealie mouthed answers, as you say, not
(47:11):
revealing that they had fabricated this entire thing in order
to do a soft coup of the maybe not so
soft coup of the president. And it's just hard because
he knows what he was doing. He knows he was obstructing.
I mean, I would refer more for like obstruction of justice.
They were investigating the Russia collusion hoax, and he kept
them from understanding what they were investigating until the Statute
(47:32):
of limitations ran out.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And you remember how this infuriates me. But you remember
when people ask questions or would attack him. Samantha Power
were going MSNBC and same, it's not a good idea
to get John Brennan mad, you know, or or Chuck
Schumer said, like the was it six ways?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I have six ways from Sunday of getting back at
you if you which is and yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Which is complete abuse of power and notes almost admitting
that there's an abuse of power there, that they can
do whatever they want, that they're above the law, that
they can destroy you if you say something. So I
would love for one of these people to pay a
price for clapping.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Allie for the Senate January seventeen, twenty seventeen, headlined top
level intel officers war against Donald Trump is bad for
the country. I just want credit here January seventeenth to
twenty seventeen. That's before Trump was elected, and I reread
what I had there, and I totally figured it out.
(48:33):
You might remember I figured it out because Jack Tapper
accidentally revealed it all to me while I was sitting there.
But nevertheless, I'm still proud of how early I figured
out a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
With There's no accidents, there's just opportunities. You were in
the right place at the right time, and you followed
the clues. I've written many columns over the years begging
or wanting or wish casting John Brennan to be an
orange suit in prison in somewhere. I don't know that
it'll ever happen, but that's where he belongs, all right.
(49:05):
On that note, you want to talk a little bit
about culture, Yes, yes, let's start by talking about the
amazing heist at the Louver. Oh.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
That reminds me. I had multiple people correcting my pronunciation
of on on jegen oneah. Some people just made fun
of me without telling me how to say it properly,
but other people actually helped me.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, we're the only people in the world who
always have to pronounce things the way that the foreigners
pronounce it. You know what I mean, I should. I
think it's like when people say vankach or whatever. It's
just annoying to me. But anyway, so I didn't think
that heist likes like this could happen anymore. It's very
like nineteen sixties to me or something. And anyway, these
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people back to truck into the loop and stole and
they use like a glass cutter. There's no cameras. Can
you believe that there's no cameras at this museum which
has priceless work of art after priceless work of art.
And they didn't steal any paintings or anything like. They
stole jewelry, tiaras, earrings, and necklaces. I think they have
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like two thousand diamonds in their possession now or something
like that. Obviously, selling the Mona Lisa's is very difficult,
but selling diamonds is not, though I have read that
because of the kind of artificial diamonds they make now
that the market isn't the same. But anyway, they have
sapphires and other emeralds, and it's just listen. I'm not
(50:47):
happy that they stole the stuff, but I am happy
that I get to read a story like this these days.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I know, I was so excited reading this. It's horrible,
and also it's just amazing backed that they pulled a
truck up. They had a ladder to the second story,
they climbed up. They all were wearing gear that made
them seem like they were museum workers. They went to work,
completed everything in just a few short minutes. They dropped
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one of the crowns on the way out in the
gutter and it cracked. That's sad. And I was reading
that there had been a similar theft at the louver
of part of this collection, I think in around nineteen
sixty or something like that, where that has never been solved. Really,
I was reading Charles The Tense Coronation Sword or something.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I read in The New York Times that in nineteen
that the other big burglaries, and this one blew my mind.
But in nineteen ninety four at the National Museum in Oslo, Norway,
a bunch of people went into the museum there and
stoleed a screen by Edward Munch and left a note
that said a thousand things for your poor security. That's amazing.
(52:03):
I assume they got this painting back because it's one
of the most famous paintings in the world. Right, But
this kind of stuff actually happens more than you'd think.
You know, once every ten years there's some big theft
like this. Anyway, interesting story, right, Oh, I just remembered. Also,
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I wanted to mention that Ace Freely died, you know,
the guitarist of Kiss. So when I was like a kid,
they were huge. I was really he was seventy four,
and I was thinking, man, he was young. The height
of Kiss in the mid seventies. He was like twenty
years old. You know, we're twenty two years old. That's
just you don't think about it that way. And he
was an amazing It was amazing when I was a kid.
(52:46):
I love that band. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I grew up in Tilarry County, California, in the middle
of nowhere, and our Lutheran school didn't have kindergarten, so
I went to kindergarten in the public school system. Was
high school or maybe I don't even know it was
high school or like just there were high school kids
that were on campus dressed as Kiss, but I thought
it really was Kiss because I was five, and I
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remember realizing, like many years later, like Kiss did not
visit Terra Bella, California.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
You don't know, I remember having like Kiss trading cards
in elementary school. They were just like everyone loved them.
I didn't even know what it was really about. Like
I didn't really have their albums at the time, but
I was just like one big part of the group. Okay,
so I'll quickly talk about what I watched, and we
(53:39):
can talk about what you watched. But I did watch
the John Candy documentary like you. I thought he was
excellent and wasn't it so good? It seemed like a
really good man, family man. It did bother me that
he didn't take any care of himself even though he
was people kind of told him, and that his dad
had died young. His brother had a heart attack I
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think in his thirties, so he's just ignored doctors. He smoked, obviously,
it's constantly smoking in the videos, and he obviously he
ate way too much. And it bothers me that he
didn't take care of himself, because I think he could
have given us a lot more.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Then.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I watched the longest documentary. It must have been six
hours long or something like that, you know in episodes,
but it's a documentary of Martin Scorsese, the director. I
loved every second of it. I'm going to watch it again.
If you're into him, this is on Apple TV, you
should watch it. It spends I mean, you know, it
(54:43):
spends a lot of time about his upbringing in little Italy.
It spends a lot of time on his relationship with
Robert de Niro and Leo DiCaprio and all his films.
You know, they get into mean Streets and they actually,
I don't know if you've ever seen Mean Streets. It's
his first like real movie with de Niro and Harvey
cay Tells in it. But they actually tracked down the
people who it was based on, who were like, you know,
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when he was growing up in Italy. They're really old
now and they talk to them and it's just so
well done. I think it's done by Daniel da Lewis's wife,
Rebecca Miller, who is the daughter of Arthur Miller, the playwright.
Very well done. I would recommend it to anyone who's
into that. But it is long. That's it. How about you, Kay?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I can't remember anything. I did go to a gala
on Saturday night that was the craziest gala I've ever
been to. It was the National Italian American Foundation's fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh man, that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It was great. It was at the Reagan Hilton.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
It was like twenty five hundred people, a completely ungoverned,
a bull crowd unless the pope was talking or like
a priest was up Like if the pope was pictured,
they were quiet. If a priest was up there, they
were quiet. And otherwise it was just raucous and crazy.
Everyone was dressed really beautifully. They had a silent auction
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that had like a perrari and a jeep because the
head of the jeep company is Italian.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Man, this is one thing I would want to go do.
This is the first thing you've ever mentioned that I
want to go.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Do COMPARI sponsored the pre party, so we had negron eneties.
It was great, and then it was just person after
person they were celebrating. Also, Georgia Maloney, you know, phoned
in from Italy and she's so pretty. She was the
first of many people to thank President Trump for restoring
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Columbus Day, which I guess like had officially been changed
to Hate America Day, or through the.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Form of Indigenous Indigenous People's Day, which I'm all.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I like holidays, I'm all for more holidays. The idea
that you would replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day
is such a slap. And so Maloney says that she's like,
we all know the reason they get rid of Columbus Days.
They don't want to give credit to the great Italian
Americans who have helped build America, you know. And everyone
was like cheering, and then more people were mentioning that,
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and Maria Bartiromo was there, speaking of very pretty people.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Am I allowed to ask you why you were invited
to this? I mean, obviously you're a public, you're a celebrity,
but aren't you part of Italian maybe a little bit
at the.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Time, I am in no way Italian except for love
of Italy, and I had a friend who invited me.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
I love the Italians. My wife is Italian. She comes
from the Italian family. I grew up around Italians. I
love Italian stuff. Telling cars I mean from Afar. That
sounds like fun. Oh man, I'm curious of that. Usually,
like I went to the you know, the some kind
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of boring DC thing that would never want to go to.
But this sounded amazing. Yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm sure
the stuff he goes to is very interesting. Was this
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Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist
and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just
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please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. Molly,
did you see the candidate Maine who accidentally got a
Nazi tattoo? At one point?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So, I've seen a little bit about this person. I
feel like he was in the news for having what
was this, like one of the many people who are
being outed for bad texts or something.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He did that as well. Yeah, his name is me
is a Graham Planter. He's a candidate for the Democratic
Senate seat in Maine. I believe he is. I bet
I believe the other person running is like an old
seventy eight year old governor, is it? But one had
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out at him with it's not even a Nazi tattoo.
It's actually an SS tattoo. It's that skull with the crossbones.
It's called like a totten com or something like that.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. He came
out and said, I'm not a secret Nazi when he
was on pod Saves America. That podcast reminded me slightly
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if I am not a witch. I don't know. It's
a while back for people. What is that Delaware?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Christine? Christine? What O'donald?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh? Yeah, I think so where that come from?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I think that's right. I A lot so some
people have defended him, saying, listen, if you walk into
a tattoo parlor, you know, and you just get something
that looks cool, it's probably going to be. Now he
apparently got this in Croatia while he was in the Marines.
I think, I say that's bs. I mean, if you
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don't know over the years you've lived, right, and you
have this tattoo that is in movie after movie as
a clear Nazi insignia SS insignia, and no one's mentioned
that to you, I just I don't buy it. I'm listen.
I'm not saying the guy's in Nazi today, But you know,
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if you mark yourself in that way, I think it
says something about you. And if you didn't know, I
don't think really that you should be a US senator.
I feel like maybe that's not the job for you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't know. I mean, I really feel like I
need to know more about this person in their life,
but so I know very little, and I apologize that,
but I want to say that I did read that
he The reason why we have pictures of this tattoo
that he got is because it was a wedding that
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he gave his brother and his brother's wife or his
sister and her husband or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well two songs. Oh, I heard it to.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Sing a Taylor Swift song or a Miley cyrus song
with his shirt off at their wedding, And I think
that's a bigger problem than the tattoo. In a way,
Eddie's scary was saying, like, what a horrible wedding gift
to make someone else's wedding be all about you and
people having to watch you uncomfortably.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I think that's a good point. I have long maintained
that too many people are taking their shirts off in public.
I think that the people who want to be naked
are the last people we want to see naked. I
think that this guy from the pictures I saw of
him singing Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball in the two thousand
and seven wedding, which is also in Croatia. You tell
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me no net that wedding's like, hey, bro, why do
you have a Nazi tattoo right with the shirt off?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is it a common one? I saw it. It's like
a skull, But is that a common win or does
it read like tough guy, military guy?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
To me? Like?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
How do people? How many symbols are there? I'm familiar
with the swastika and the.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I mean if you watch if you watch Inglorious Bastards
or if you watch like any well, there you go,
they'll have the SS insignia. It's pretty famous. I just
don't buy his story. I think it's it's it's ridiculous.
And also I think if you have a tattoo like that,
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like who was it? Pete Heseth? You know he has
all these tattoos and people were trying to pretend that
they were some kind of you know, white supremacist tattoos.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
They were like the.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Right, that's yeah, that those are like I'm a tough guy,
you know tattoos or you know that those tattoos say
something and they might make people on the left kind
of uncomfortable, but I've seen them all over.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I say, we have Jerusalem crosses at my church were
not tough. By tough.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What I mean is he's got more than that, you know.
I mean, he's got you know, it's a certain aesthetic.
I think that says like I was in the armed
forces or I'm you know, like this and it looks
like it's the only one he has. I mean, let's
be honest. I'm kind of sick of giving everyone the
benefit of the doubt on this sort of thing. Hey,
you want to vote for the guy. I'm sure he's
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changed his mind. I think he's like a far left
wing guy is and he you know, you want to
vote for him. Both for him, I don't care. But
let's not pretend here.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I just want to say, in addition to me having
a problem with him singing the Miley Cyrus song, I
also remember Mark Hemingway's greatest piece, America has a tattoo problem.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Or we've got to do something about America's tattoo problem.
And I frequently want to become a tattoo consultant who
just helps people not get tattoos.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Basically, let's dive in on that. I walk around here
and you know, in the summer, and people have a
lot of tattoos as some of them look cool and
I'm impressed, and some of them I like, you are nice,
you know, And many times, or more often than ever,
it doesn't seem like people are putting a lot of
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thought into wear on their body. They're placing them. They're
just like throwing them on all over. They're not very
well done, and I find it really Listen, I'm an
old guy, but I find it pretty un I find
it unattractive in general, the way people place their tattoos.
Am I wrong about this? Am I imagining this?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know. My niece and godchildhood I love very
much gotten a tattoo when her grandpa died, her dad's dad,
and I was like, are you gonna have to do
that now? When everybody dies? Like it didn't seem that
she had gamed out how it's going to work over
the long haul. But on the other hand, she's in
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Colorado and like everybody there has so many tattoos. It's
like no big deal.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I see a young person without a tattoo, I'm impressed,
Like I'm impressed. They're they're like bucking the trend, it
seems to me. And another thing is I see a
lot of people now up their next I sound like
such an old man, but like invading their facial area,
Like to me, you're just a gang banger. Now. I
don't even understand what people are doing anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I once we had this guy that was I was
living with my girlfriend and there was a guy that
we were letting stay there, or he was a friend
of another one of our roommates or something, and he
wasn't paying rent, and he offered to pay in tattoos
because he had a tattoo machine, and my friend took
him up on it. I was like, we don't need
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any money, Like I'm not getting a free tattoo from
a guy we're letting crash here at our apartment in Denver.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And listen, I know I have friends with tattoos and
relatives of tattoos and all that. I can't even if
I wanted one. I don't think I could land on
an image that I'd wanted my body forever. I couldn't
really decide what to do in that way. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I worked with this lady at a real estate office,
and she said that anything that like you're tempted to do,
you should just wait till you're fifty. So she had
never done any drugs and she's like, I'm not really
going to do it, but if I'm going to do it,
I'll wait till i'm fifty. And same thing with a tattoo,
And that's one way to approach it too.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Don't do cocaine until you're seventy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Then well you've heard have you heard nor McDonald's thing
on that where you're like, when you're young, You're like,
I'll wait to eighty and I'll do heroin, Like you're
going to be less scared of things, when in truth,
you're just way more scared of things. And he talks
about is how is his grandmother had like this massive
black and blue and he's like, what happened grandma? She's
like the wind, you know, So let's talk about that
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for a moment. Have these people thought through what these
tattoos are going to look like when you're seventy, because
it is not going to be as you know, pretty,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Do you have any idea how much hate mail we're
going to get here? I know because Mark always gets
hate mail for his tattoo piece, mostly from his own
family or my family but we're going to get email
from all of our listeners who are like, no, I
have a beautiful tattoo. It's the best ever.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Some of them, honestly, some of them I'm impressed, or
some of them, I'm like, this looks nice. I get it.
But that is rare these days for me. Do what
you want though. It's America. You want to look like,
you want to look that way. Do what you gotta do.
All right. That was one story I wanted to hit.
Another story I wanted to hit today was the Donald J.
Trump ballroom freak out. On this weekend, or maybe it
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was Monday. We're taping this Tuesday at you know, late
there were pictures started to circulate of the East wing
having some renovations, big renovations, like they're tearing down walls,
and the entire left freaks out. Now, before we get
into the specifics of this, I just want to say,
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it is insufferably boring to deal with people who are
freaked out every day about everything. All the time. I'm
in waves of anger and hysteria, which I doubt is
even real about everything that's going on. Every president does
some renovations of the White House, you know, I look
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it up. I mean, like virtually every single one. And
it's all performative. And this came a day after the
No Kings protest, which we'll talk about in a moment.
So here's the deal, Donald Trump, apparently, and you will
know more about this than me. I'm sure the White
House doesn't often have enough room for the sorts of
events it puts on, so they have tents on the
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lawn and stuff like that. So Donald Trump's building this
ballroom which is going to house six hundred and fifty
or have room for six hundred and fifty people. It
cost around two hundred million. And I loved how all
these Democrats were like, we have a big you know,
look at the debt, and this is what Donald Trump's doing. Well,
it's all private money and it'll be done pretty soon,
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you know. I'm sure it'll get done in a real
patively quick period of time. And it seems to me
not to be a big deal at all. What say you,
Molly Hemingway.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh my gosh, Well, one of my former students, who's
the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller or was she?
I think she was a student Hellsdale student at the
very least Reagan. Reese was saying that when she walked
into the White House today, there was a construction worker
who was bringing in like slabs of concrete or material
or whatever, and he was telling the security that President
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Trump had asked to see these, and they had to clarify, like, oh,
he's really taking that hands on of an approach. Of
course he is. He is a builder, so he's really
interested in that kind of thing. The White House is
it actually needs to be massively overhauled. And I hope
that whoever is president next will work to overhaul the
West wing too. So this East wing is so small
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you can't really hold functions like you need to. If
you've been at parties there, it's not that big, you know,
and it's hard to get everybody in. And it's not
that I mean, it's beautiful, but not it's not like
European places, And so I could see it being improved upon.
The West wing is so cramped, and I think that's
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what also needs to be improved upon. So hopefully someone
else will do it. But Mark Hemingway had said that
I saw him tweet that it wasn't so much that
anyone really objected to constructing a White House ballroom. It's
that people are agitated that they have to deal with
a permanent reminder that Trump was ever president. And then
after he tweets this, one of those people at the
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Bulwark said that next time a Democrat is elected president,
they have to tear they have to raise the Trump
ballroom and restore the White House to pre Trump's status.
And he said, you have to tear down the physical
manifestations of authoritarianism. Yes, an improved ballroom is definitely a
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manifestation of authoritarianism. But it was just like, it's hard
to know how to deal with people who are so
deranged that they can't just accept, They can't just objectively
analyze should this White House always remain in the same
state or can't be improved upon? Can it be improved
upon by any president? Or does it have to be
one that I voted for? You know, it's just weird.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What is in a manifestation of Trump's authoritarianism? You know,
they they've lost all credibility because they freak out and
melt down about everything. So even when there's a real
thing to melt down about, no one's even really listening anymore.
I don't think they are.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But I do. I want to say, since I just
mentioned the Bulwark, I never read it. I've never found
it to have you know, anything that draws me in.
But I did read a piece yesterday and it was
unintentionally high hilarious. It was an overly long, incredibly detailed
story about a guy who had that day left the
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Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I love that story.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Did you read it, Yes, it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The funny thing is not that he left the party
and these I love these people. I've never been like
a registered Republican in my life. I can't imagine being
like today. I renounced the party. But the funny thing
about it was he left for a bunch of reasons
that Reaganites wanted to happen. Like he left because the
Supreme Court was upholding you know, the law.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, specifically, he said he left because the Supreme Court
overturned Roe, which is something that multiple legs of the
Reagan stool, as you just pointed out, had long fought
for for fifty years. You had pro lifers who hated
Roe because of how it made it impossible to protect
any unborn life. We also had just constitutional conservatives who
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may or may not have been pro life who recognized
it as a really bad decision that was polluting the
entire Supreme Court jurisprudence.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, it brought his amber to uphold it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You had to like do insane stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And yeah, sorry, no, no, you're fused together the social
conservative wing and the sort of legal federalist society wing.
I mean this is this was a project, an ongoing
project for many, many years. I think a worthy one,
of course, So the idea that you're leaving because this
project has finally been realized. Also, by the way, years
after I didn't even know what this guy is. I
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don't know what a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But wait, that's what I want to get to. But
first I just want to say he said specifically because
he believed a conspiracy theory that's not true, that overturning
Rob Wade removed like fertility treatments or something, I mean,
which is just not true. And I guess if you
read left wing publications like that, you don't know what
the truth is. But it's really embarrassing that that made
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it to publication. And then he also said he believed
in the very fine people both sides hoaxed that had
been debunked years ago, so he's not getting very good information.
But the kicker is you get this really long story
about how he's left because the conservative movement finally achieved
things that they'd always said they'd wanted to achieve, and
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they published it like it's a big thing. And it's
a guy I don't even remember his name, but he
was a low level fundraiser at a digital fundraising firm
I'd never heard of. So we went from first Trump
administration where you'd have like Governor Chris Christie, you know,
denouncing Trump or you know, big names or whoever. His predecessor, Christine.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, I mean Anonymous. It was a similar sort of guy, right, Anonymous,
remember that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Book Anonymous by comparison, Actually it's huge. It was at
least a Trump appoint or you know, had been hired
in the Trump administration. This guy is. It was embarrassing
how nobody he was and how they were trying to
push it out. But I thought it was kind of
a good sign that this is what they're resorting to.
(16:58):
You've got a ton of people leaving the Democrat Party,
according to studies, or not wanting to identify with them.
They're so extreme that they're losing a lot of their centrists,
even if they're not becoming Republican, they're just not wanting
to associate with Democrats. And then in exchange you get
you lose a no name direct mail writer or whatever.
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I don't even know what he did, but like, who cares?
Is so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The self aggrandizing, like denouncement of an entire party is
so dumb. Like write a column about what you don't
like or do like or whatever, make an argument. No
one gives a crap who what your card says or
what party you're in. I don't think they do. And
it's just I mean, maybe the Bulwark readers do. I
don't really read that publication. I have to be honest.
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What did I want to? Oh? Yeah, so let's just
go back to the ballroom unless you have something else
to say. Ony person, his name, his name, we don't
even know and can't remember. But you said. Well, first
of all, let me read some tweets that made me
laugh out loud, and one was from Hillary Clinton, who
just is a gift if the keeps giving. It's not
his house, it's your house, and he's destroying it. That's
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what Hillary Clinton said, Now, some of us who are older,
remember that Hillary Clinton, the first couple of the nineties,
rented out the Lincoln bedroom like they were an old
West tavern owners, right like to anyone who came by
for money. And then I don't know if you remember this,
they stole the furniture and the tableware and the dishes.
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They took it the people's dishes and furniture. I don't
know if you remember this. It was like twenty k
worth and they had to send it back with an apology.
I mean, they were stealing stuff from the people's house.
I only bring this up because this idea that they
hold this place sacred, you know, and that the people's
house and all this. I mean, who treated the White
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House worse than the Clinton's I mean what, I don't
even want to get into what happened in there, the debauchery.
So but I also like Maria Schreier saying that this
breaks my heart and it infuriates me. Hundreds of millions
of dollars to build a new ballroom. Good God, Now
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this is President John F. Kennedy's niece, right, if Kamala
had won the presidency and built a new ballroom, these
people would be celebrating it as the next Camelot, you know,
as you know, we'd be hearing about the designers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And if it were paid for privately, I don't think
you would hear criticism from people who are conservative unless
the design was bad, you know what I mean, Like
it's just weird.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Did you see the Obama Library design? I did look
something that I love North Korea.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Love how truthful it is in terms of it being ugly. Also,
did you see that there's a whole wall of text
no carved into the outside and someone did someone put
it next to a picture where it says the left
can't mean and it's just a wall of script because
the right will do really stupid, funny memes that immediately
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get the point across using imagery, and the left will
just do these overly long in this house, we believe,
you know kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It was his? Do I have this right? I could?
This might be wrong, but didn't he give the Queen
of England as a gift like his best speeches on
an iPod or something? I mean, he's so anyway. Last
thing I want to say about this is you said
that the White House is not like European halls which
are big.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Or which is good. I don't mean that in a
bad way, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I know, well, I'm just saying if the if the
point here was from the left that hey, you know,
we're Americans and we have Republican values, you know, and
and we you know, and and there's modesty, so we
should just have exactly that would be different. I'm with them.
I think we treat d C to I wish we
didn't have big parties there. I don't want any of that.
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But they love d C. They love the parties, they
love that stuff, and they just hate Donald Trump's done it.
So I think Mark Scott that right.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I was wondering, do you know if they will still
do Christmas decorations this year?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Why do you ask me that? And how would I know?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know. I'm just wondering if that this will
disrupt the Christmas decoration. Oh also reminds me of one
of my favorite things from Milania. It's such a sad
thing that she had a friend who betrayed her and
oh yeah, like voice conversations that they'd had, which meant
she was recording her which was awful. But she had
said something about how much she hated doing the Christmas decorations,
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how it was, and how she or she'd like maybe
she hated the criticism that she got for them or something.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, I remember that. I don't remember all the specifics,
but I wrote about it because it did actually upset me,
because it felt to me like she was just voicing
frustration and a lot of work that she had to
do wasn't anything, you know, very ugly anyway, And and
and it had nothing to do with politics and the
idea that all these stay every you know, everyone's running
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with these tapes thin it was import formed. There was
only real journalistic reason to do it. But look who
we're talking about, right all right? East? Okay, no Kings
just quickly. I mean, what made me laugh about that?
First of all, I don't think protests mean very much. Honestly,
I've always thought this. I also don't think that protests
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are very American in a way. I just I don't
think that's how Again, Republican governance is about getting into
a street just because I can have millions of people
in a mob saying something it doesn't shouldn't really matter.
But anyway, what makes me laugh about it is that
they were protesting the thing the norms that they created.
For the most part, they are the ones who made
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President's king. Obama is the one who made a president king.
Joe Biden's the one who went on Twitter and tried
to add an amendment to the Constitution through tweet, not
Donald Trump. I don't like everything Donald Trump does. I
think that he uses the executive branch more aggressively than
i'd like, and some things I think are wrong, but
I think that he's working within the framework that was
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created by Barack Obama. Now, if they want to change that,
they should worry about that when they're in power, just
like Republicans who don't like it should worry about it
when Trump's in power. I don't know. Sounds a little
bit idealistic, but that's the only way to fix the
no King's problem, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I just want to talk about the no Kings protests
in general, so that they did want one of these
in June, and I think it was designed to be
kind of related to the efforts to stop ice enforcement
in LA. They were doing big riots. Oh yeah, so
LA was doing riots, which I just like to remind
people those riots inorganically stopped. Maybe they inorganically started, but
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they stopped in a way that we're not accustomed to
seeing with riot movements like BLM. The moment DJ said
they were going to start investigating the funding of those riots,
it just like went away. It was weird, but they
had launched the first No Kings protests around those riots,
and I thought, Okay, well here we go. We're gonna
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have another summer of love and violence and hatred and
George Floyd two point zero. And then it just didn't happen.
They had a big turnout of older white people. In
most cases, like you looked at this past weekends No
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King's protest and it could be Atlanta or Philadelphia, and
it wasn't that there were zero black people or people
of color, but it was very few, very very few.
And then the crowds itself seemed to be just older.
And that matched with my experience. I was out on
Saturday walking down King Street in Alexandria. Virginia has a
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town Alexandria that's older than the country, and the streets
are named like King, Duke, Prince, Yeah, very royal names.
And there was an elderly man walking past us with
a sign that said no Kings and my kid wanted
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to pretend that they thought that this guy was protesting
the street we were on, and I said, let's not.
You know, we don't need to interact here.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
These people are a little crazy. Yeah, well do you remember?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sorry, no, No. I was just going to say, I
just don't think there's any kind of central cause really
here other than Donald Trump, which is just doesn't work anymore.
That's why there's no there's no woman's rights, abortion here,
you know, stuff here, There's no it's it's just a
bunch of people were angry that Donald Trump won the election.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, So first off, I just want to say the
idea that this guy was protesting King Street was reminding
me of the jerk you know, when the guy is
trying to shoot him and he keeps hitting all the
oil cans, and Steve Martin's character is like he must
hate these cans, and so I just kept thinking, like,
they must really hate King Street. But to your point, yeah,
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I had no idea what was organizing them. Also, we
have gone through, gosh, it's about almost ten years of
the left hating the American founding, hating it, trying to
destroy it, supporting kneeling when the national anthem is played,
burning down statues, removing statues, teaching all of our children
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that America is an evil country that should not be loved,
that patriotism is bad. And then all of these people
get out there and they're like wearing George Washington stuff
and claiming to believe in the Constitution. And I'm like, you, guys,
I don't believe you. Like I wish you were. I
wish you were that way, but I really genuinely don't
believe it. And also I don't think they realize how
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much they messed up by being so anti patriotic. Unpatriotic,
but anti patriotic too.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean a person who picks up the New York Times,
which a lot of liberals do, older liberals, probably around Alexandria,
for instance, and read the sixteen nineteen Project which tells
them that the American Founding was just a war to
preserve slavery, which is completely astore, not even a historical
it just mythology. And now I'm supposed to pretend they
care about George Washington, Madison and all these people that
(27:20):
I don't buy it for a second. The even now
in the New York Times, I'm just using them. They're
my straw man. Right now. There's a piece the other
week about how we need to get rid of the Senate,
we need to get rid of the electoral college, we
need to get rid of what else was it, you know,
all this stuff. Essentially, they want to create a centralized
democracy because they think they're going to win that way
(27:40):
and been doing it forever. So I don't believe them
at all. And you're right about the statues if you're listen.
We've said this before and people get mad. But I
can tell who the Democrats are where I live and
who the Republicans are by who flies an American flag.
I'm sorry, That's just how it is. And until that changes,
and we both you know, both sides, and that doesn't
(28:02):
mean that the people are Republicans in my view at
least are doing everything right, or that they're always adhering
to the Constitution. But let's be honest about who cares
about that. So they just hate that Donald Trump got elected.
That's it. Speaking of hating America, Let's talk about Zoar Mamdani,
the candidate for mayor of New York. I would like
(28:26):
to preface all this by saying that cities elect ridiculous
people for mayor all the time. Right, I don't want
to make a bigger deal out of this than it is.
We have to remember he's running against he ran against
a corrupt mayor. He's running against a corrupt and failed
(28:48):
governor who is long his due date is over right,
And he's running against Curtis lia who I know. I
grew up with him around. I think he's kind of
just a publicity hound. I don't I think he's a
serious person. I don't think he seriously thinks about anything.
I also think he's a fraud. The Guardian Angels I
was so into them when I was young, but it
(29:08):
turned out a lot of their stories were made up
in fake and you know whatever. So he's not exactly
running against any kind of formidable opposition. And it's New
York City, so how many Republicans are actually going to run?
But my problem is that a ton of elite Democrats
and basically the entire progressive wing of the party has
backed this guy and normalized what he says and made
(29:30):
him basically the I don't know the model for how
people are supposed to be running in the country, right.
I bring him up because he met with this imom
in Brooklyn who said terrible the usual terrible stuff. I mean,
I have to say. People are saying he was an
unindicted co conspirator in the ninety three World Trade Center bombing.
(29:53):
I don't think that's true. I don't think he was.
The people who went to his mosque were involved. He
defended those people after he said terrible things. But I
don't think he was an unindicted co consert. But it
doesn't really matter anyway. I don't know where I'm going
with this other than to say that I think he's
going to win. Even if Slee was stepped out, I
(30:14):
think he's going to win, and I think that boats
poorly for the future of the left.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I was just thinking about it. I was actually talking
on Fox about how there's a push for Curtis Sliwa
to drop out since he has no chance of winning,
and he's becoming an impediment to Cuomo having a chance
at winning is quite an impediment, actually, But I think
even if he removed himself from the race, I think
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his name is still going to be on the ballot,
and I don't think it would really make much of
a difference. I agree with you that mom Donnie is
going to win, but I also resent being told that
Governor Cuomo is in any way an acceptable alternative to
mom Donnie. I mean, the guy speaking of no kings
and authoritarianism and tyranny. The dude was very bad as
(31:07):
governor during COVID. He had really bad restrictions. He had
bad policies, you know, that led to people dying. I
think his administration was even under investigation for what they
did with the nursing homes during COVID. He told pro
lifers to leave the state. He's a bigot. He is
responsible for a lot of Republicans leaving New York and
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the idea that this is what the options are. It's
just a very bad thing. And by the way, I
would probably vote for him if I were a New
York City resident, you know, given the alternative. You're correct
that people shouldn't overread a mom Donnie when given how
bad the opposition is. But I also think that people,
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particularly those on the right, should be at least a
little concerned about why mom Donnie is popular in New York.
Part of it is he just seems to like the
city more than the people he's running against, and I
think that works in a mayoral election. But also we
have some concerns growing with the difficulty that younger people
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have buying houses, buying things. And I always think of
that thing Greg Connolly says, which is, you're not going
to have a conservative movement if young people can't buy houses.
And so you have to be thinking constantly about how
to make sure that life is a certain way of
life is worth conserving for a conservative movement to work,
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and the right just should be mindful of that and
how things have become more difficult for young people in
some cases.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I agree with you on Cuomo. I mean, I think
he's one of the worst people in your politics in
a long time, and that is saying something I don't
buy the way. And I agree with you that housing
is important, Affordability is important. It's not going to happen
in Manhattan. You know, It's never been really affordable there.
(33:10):
There's no place to build. I'm sorry, that's just physics.
If you want to build, you need to move somewhere else.
You can't live in Washington, you can't live in New York.
It's not just here. It's across Europe, you know, I mean,
major cities are super expensive. You have to build elsewhere.
Most of the building problem, I think, at least for
world i've read, is a state problem. It's a municipality problem.
(33:31):
It's a city problem. People don't let you build more.
That's one thing. But I don't buy for a second
that mom Donnie is speaking in some language. Every mayoral
candidate's spoken about rents being too high. There was literally
a candidate who just said the rents are too damn high.
It's not a new topic. I don't buy for a
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second that he's this charismatic guy. I believe that many
New Yorkers, some immigrants, and many of the socialists, you know,
the the well pretty well off people who are in
rich areas in Brooklyn and elsewhere, who come often from
other places around the country and congregate in New York.
They like him because he's a socialist. They want some
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free stuff, they want a free bus, you know. They
like him, I'm sorry, because he is a Muslim and
they think it's cool to vote for one. This is
why he's popular. And he's young, right, There's always an
energy in youth that you're not going to get for
Cuomo Como was old entireties. Yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I did see that recent polls showed that if only
men were voting, the non Mum Donnie candidates were like
two to one versus Mom Donnie, and that native born
voters like overwhelmingly rejected Mom Donnie, but that non native
born voters overwhelmingly supported him.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I mean, this has always been the problem with the
New York and the mayor's race. You know, you have
Staten Island, and you had certain parts of Brooklyn which
were still working class in normal and there are fewer
and fewer of those places left. People have been priced out,
they moved to Long Island, they moved to other places
and which are more more conservative. So that's always been
the case. But I just don't buy this idea. Like
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everyone in the media, you know, in the in the
legacy media talks about him like this, you know, candidate
that needs to be aped by everyone else. He so
successfully knows how to speak to people, But no one
talks about John Fetterman. Why not ape him? I mean,
he is a person who is popular in a state
that Donald Trump want. He's a Democrat, right, No, it's
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got to be the guy in the New York City
who appeals to people who live in Park Slope. I mean,
it's just insanity, I think for them. Though, we cannot
disregard the fact that that kind of socialistic rhetoric, the
frankly the promas rhetoric, and the other stuff that he
does is very popular with a certain segment, and it's
a growing segment, and there's no way around that, and
(35:57):
I think that bodes poorly for America just in general.
I don't want to again overstate his importance, but he's
not alone, right, You have Bernie, you have AOC, you
have others. I mean, AOC could be a senator. It's
not out of the realm of possibility that you would
become a senator.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I do think that smart people should work to
thwart the worst impulses of mom Donnie. He has said
some really radical and awful things on the campaign trail.
I think there's a lot of concern that he would
not protect the civil rights of Jewish New Yorkers. There
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are concerns that he would improperly use government resources to
compete against private business owners like bodega owners, as he
wants to set up a socialized healthcare thing. The safety
of the citizens by opening up buses so that, you know,
even worse problems happen there in terms of people on
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public transit. But one thing I learned from the left
they have spent this first year of the Trump administration.
I think it was the New York Times the Washington
Post said the only effective thing, that's the only thing
that's effective for the left right now is the law
fair against Trump. So the moment he says, Okay, I'm
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president in a constitutional republic, people who work for me
can be fired by me. I'm firing this person, and
all of a sudden, they you know, they circuit shop
an effort to keep that from happening, and it works,
and they stall, delay, thwart everything he's doing. Well, if
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you can do that for things that are totally constitutional,
how much more should smart people be doing it to
protect small business owners like bodega owners in New York
or you know, grandmothers who are on the bus, Like,
shouldn't there be efforts to protect them?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Also, how do you mean you mean employing law here
against mom done to stop.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Absolutely, Like it's hard to fight people like that. If
you can do it, like the Democrat Party has done,
in unison against Trump. Why can't people who care about
the free market or care about rule of law also
work to thwart They should just be on guard. They
(38:23):
should be on mom donning and watch like, Okay, you
want to have this inappropriate socialist thing to compete against
small business owners. We're going to We're going to see
what we can do to stop you legally.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I have so many things to say. I guess one
part of me is like, Okay, this is what you
guys wanted have it. Let's see how it works out
for you. Let's see how your free busses work out.
Let's see how your socialized supermarket supermarkets work out while
you rich people live on the east side or west
side whatever. Another part of me is like, I'm you know,
a New York native and twenty years a generation after
(38:57):
twenty five years, almost a generation after nine to eleven, Mom,
Donnie's going to be mayor of New York, a person
who makes excuses for terrorists and all of this stuff.
And then you know, online people say you're Islamophobic, which
is like a stupid, cowardly word that doesn't mean anything.
I am. I am phobic of bad ideas of a
(39:19):
certain kind of thinking. I should be able to criticize them,
just as I could criticize Christian ideas or Jewish ideas
if I felt like it. But anyway, I think that
what kind of lawfare can you use to stop him?
I mean, he won the Democratic primary fairly, you know,
the Republicans stop him.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Stop him from running. I totally think people should have
every right to vote for him and all that I'm saying.
If he proposes doing something that's a violation of people
civil rights.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Sue and sue and sue and sue. Yeah, I get that.
I mean, let's be honest, it's very difficult for a
person who believes in any kind of system to deal
with democratic socialists because democratic parts just there until they
have power, then they'll do whatever they want to do.
They're consequentialists. They don't care about the laws, all about
the endgame, right, So I agree. I mean, I don't know,
(40:12):
I don't know how you can stop him.
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Speaker 1 (40:53):
Speaking of breaking the law, I think that my segues
are great today because speaking of Britain laws, La Moodless,
let's talk about John Brennan. Apparently there's a report that
that that the You'll correct me if I'm wrong, but
Congress is asking the DOJ to not investigate but indict him.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Correct yeah too, Yeah, they are for a line to them,
which he apparently did. I have seen so many referrals
from Congress for things that haven't happened. I mean, I
remember Lindsey Graham, of all people, sent over a criminal
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referral about Christopher Steele line to Congress, and nothing ever
happened with that. I mean, obviously it wouldn't have happened
because he sent it to a DJ that was completely
corrupted by that time.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, just because someone deserves to be in jail doesn't
mean that you have the evidence, you know, in a
legal sense, to put him there. I just want to
say that it seems when I read about this story.
This is from twenty seventeen, Brennan led that the CIA
did not use any information from the Steel report, but
it exists in an annex right if I have the
wording right, And isn't it going to be incredibly difficult
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to prove that the wording he used, which is a
little merely mouthed, like, is it going to be incredibly
hard to get a jury to convict someone on unlying
to Congress even if you went moved forward with this
when it's like an appendix that it's in that it's
not that he can just say it wasn't really part
(42:44):
of how we conducted business, that it was just sort
of supporting evidence or whatever. I don't know what the
defense will be. It seems to me like it's a
pretty flimsy case, not because I don't think it's ripe,
because there's really no way to go after someone so powerful.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So I don't know. First off, one of the problems
is that these things take place in Washington, DC, or
the Eastern District of Virginia, which are overwhelmingly left wing
jury pools. So even if you can get an indictment,
which can be hard, getting a conviction is even harder.
But it is also true that that Hipsie report that
(43:21):
came out in July is absolutely explosive. When we were
covering the Russia colusion hoax, we thought of it mostly
as an FBI thing. The Hipsy report shows that it
was absolutely a CIA thing, and it shows how he
overruled multiple permanent staff of the CIA to get this
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included and for it to be used to paint a
false picture of the Russia collusion hoax. And that was
him doing it much more. I mean, Komi had his
own problems and obviously was playing around with the dossier
to begin with, but the weaponization of the dossier was
really done by Brennan, and it was done through this
(44:13):
by putting it in as an annex and also citing
they would make these outlandish claims and they would say
for more on this, read the annex or you know.
And he he played around with that dossier in really
bad form. But I will also say he did worse
things in that intelligence report then just use the dossier.
(44:38):
He also brought in all sorts of other unvetted evidence
that he was personally controlling that didn't go through the
normal procedures that you would for when evidence comes in
about something where you put a lot of eyes on
it and sort of make sure you have a rigorous
review of what it could mean and the quality of
the information. He kept it strictly held. He briefed personally
(45:04):
members of the Gang of Eight, giving each member of
the Gang of Eight a different briefing based on whether
they were Democrat or Republican. He the only evidence of
there was so much evidence, there was overwhelming evidence from
a multiplicity of sources saying that Russia had no preference
(45:26):
in the election. But he said he had like personal
knowledge of this one guy and it was all based
on this phrase where he said Putin was counting on
Trump to win, but five analysts looked at it, looked
at it, and had five different responses to it. Namely,
this was being uttered right before the Republican convention that
was being contested by Ted Cruz and others, and Putin
(45:48):
was counting on Trump to win, not chounting on it
like I'm controlling it or I'm you know, just he
thought Trump would win, and he was right. Trump did
easily win, and that was just a the Russia collusion hoax.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Sorry, just as a Ryan. In the twenty sixteen email, Brennan,
while disregarding his deputy, said the deputy said that the
credibility of the entire paper would be undermined by including
that information. Meaning it's almost as if he's like, we
need to get Trump, but if we put this in there,
it's going to make it even worse. I mean, that's
how I read it. I don't know or not that's
true or not. And his answer was, my bottom line
(46:24):
is that I believe that information warrants inclusion in the report,
which does show that he knew it was in there.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Right, But again, he was the one who ran that
intelligence document. Remember we were covering this like a couple
months ago. Obama was about to be briefed that Russia
had not successfully interfered in the election. The FBI says,
we change our mind, We're not signing on to this.
There's a secret meeting with all the spy chiefs and
they come up with this plan that they will do
(46:50):
a new intelligence report, something that would normally take like
a year or maybe even two years, and instead they
rush it out in a matter of weeks. And you know,
Brendan Comene Clapper are all involved in this, like complete
manufacturing of evidence. And then when Congress is asking about it,
they give these mealie mouthed answers, as you say, not
(47:11):
revealing that they had fabricated this entire thing in order
to do a soft coup of the maybe not so
soft coup of the president. And it's just hard because
he knows what he was doing. He knows he was obstructing.
I mean, I would refer more for like obstruction of justice.
They were investigating the Russia collusion hoax, and he kept
them from understanding what they were investigating until the Statute
(47:32):
of limitations ran out.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And you remember how this infuriates me. But you remember
when people ask questions or would attack him. Samantha Power
were going MSNBC and same, it's not a good idea
to get John Brennan mad, you know, or or Chuck
Schumer said, like the was it six ways?
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I have six ways from Sunday of getting back at
you if you which is and yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Which is complete abuse of power and notes almost admitting
that there's an abuse of power there, that they can
do whatever they want, that they're above the law, that
they can destroy you if you say something. So I
would love for one of these people to pay a
price for clapping.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Allie for the Senate January seventeen, twenty seventeen, headlined top
level intel officers war against Donald Trump is bad for
the country. I just want credit here January seventeenth to
twenty seventeen. That's before Trump was elected, and I reread
what I had there, and I totally figured it out.
(48:33):
You might remember I figured it out because Jack Tapper
accidentally revealed it all to me while I was sitting there.
But nevertheless, I'm still proud of how early I figured
out a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
With There's no accidents, there's just opportunities. You were in
the right place at the right time, and you followed
the clues. I've written many columns over the years begging
or wanting or wish casting John Brennan to be an
orange suit in prison in somewhere. I don't know that
it'll ever happen, but that's where he belongs, all right.
(49:05):
On that note, you want to talk a little bit
about culture, Yes, yes, let's start by talking about the
amazing heist at the Louver. Oh.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
That reminds me. I had multiple people correcting my pronunciation
of on on jegen oneah. Some people just made fun
of me without telling me how to say it properly,
but other people actually helped me.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, we're the only people in the world who
always have to pronounce things the way that the foreigners
pronounce it. You know what I mean, I should. I
think it's like when people say vankach or whatever. It's
just annoying to me. But anyway, so I didn't think
that heist likes like this could happen anymore. It's very
like nineteen sixties to me or something. And anyway, these
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people back to truck into the loop and stole and
they use like a glass cutter. There's no cameras. Can
you believe that there's no cameras at this museum which
has priceless work of art after priceless work of art.
And they didn't steal any paintings or anything like. They
stole jewelry, tiaras, earrings, and necklaces. I think they have
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like two thousand diamonds in their possession now or something
like that. Obviously, selling the Mona Lisa's is very difficult,
but selling diamonds is not, though I have read that
because of the kind of artificial diamonds they make now
that the market isn't the same. But anyway, they have
sapphires and other emeralds, and it's just listen. I'm not
(50:47):
happy that they stole the stuff, but I am happy
that I get to read a story like this these days.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I know, I was so excited reading this. It's horrible,
and also it's just amazing backed that they pulled a
truck up. They had a ladder to the second story,
they climbed up. They all were wearing gear that made
them seem like they were museum workers. They went to work,
completed everything in just a few short minutes. They dropped
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one of the crowns on the way out in the
gutter and it cracked. That's sad. And I was reading
that there had been a similar theft at the louver
of part of this collection, I think in around nineteen
sixty or something like that, where that has never been solved. Really,
I was reading Charles The Tense Coronation Sword or something.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I read in The New York Times that in nineteen
that the other big burglaries, and this one blew my mind.
But in nineteen ninety four at the National Museum in Oslo, Norway,
a bunch of people went into the museum there and
stoleed a screen by Edward Munch and left a note
that said a thousand things for your poor security. That's amazing.
(52:03):
I assume they got this painting back because it's one
of the most famous paintings in the world. Right, But
this kind of stuff actually happens more than you'd think.
You know, once every ten years there's some big theft
like this. Anyway, interesting story, right, Oh, I just remembered. Also,
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I wanted to mention that Ace Freely died, you know,
the guitarist of Kiss. So when I was like a kid,
they were huge. I was really he was seventy four,
and I was thinking, man, he was young. The height
of Kiss in the mid seventies. He was like twenty
years old. You know, we're twenty two years old. That's
just you don't think about it that way. And he
was an amazing It was amazing when I was a kid.
(52:46):
I love that band. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I grew up in Tilarry County, California, in the middle
of nowhere, and our Lutheran school didn't have kindergarten, so
I went to kindergarten in the public school system. Was
high school or maybe I don't even know it was
high school or like just there were high school kids
that were on campus dressed as Kiss, but I thought
it really was Kiss because I was five, and I
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remember realizing, like many years later, like Kiss did not
visit Terra Bella, California.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
You don't know, I remember having like Kiss trading cards
in elementary school. They were just like everyone loved them.
I didn't even know what it was really about. Like
I didn't really have their albums at the time, but
I was just like one big part of the group. Okay,
so I'll quickly talk about what I watched, and we
(53:39):
can talk about what you watched. But I did watch
the John Candy documentary like you. I thought he was
excellent and wasn't it so good? It seemed like a
really good man, family man. It did bother me that
he didn't take any care of himself even though he
was people kind of told him, and that his dad
had died young. His brother had a heart attack I
(54:01):
think in his thirties, so he's just ignored doctors. He smoked, obviously,
it's constantly smoking in the videos, and he obviously he
ate way too much. And it bothers me that he
didn't take care of himself, because I think he could
have given us a lot more.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Then.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I watched the longest documentary. It must have been six
hours long or something like that, you know in episodes,
but it's a documentary of Martin Scorsese, the director. I
loved every second of it. I'm going to watch it again.
If you're into him, this is on Apple TV, you
should watch it. It spends I mean, you know, it
(54:43):
spends a lot of time about his upbringing in little Italy.
It spends a lot of time on his relationship with
Robert de Niro and Leo DiCaprio and all his films.
You know, they get into mean Streets and they actually,
I don't know if you've ever seen Mean Streets. It's
his first like real movie with de Niro and Harvey
cay Tells in it. But they actually tracked down the
people who it was based on, who were like, you know,
(55:04):
when he was growing up in Italy. They're really old
now and they talk to them and it's just so
well done. I think it's done by Daniel da Lewis's wife,
Rebecca Miller, who is the daughter of Arthur Miller, the playwright.
Very well done. I would recommend it to anyone who's
into that. But it is long. That's it. How about you, Kay?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I can't remember anything. I did go to a gala
on Saturday night that was the craziest gala I've ever
been to. It was the National Italian American Foundation's fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Oh man, that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It was great. It was at the Reagan Hilton.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
It was like twenty five hundred people, a completely ungoverned,
a bull crowd unless the pope was talking or like
a priest was up Like if the pope was pictured,
they were quiet. If a priest was up there, they
were quiet. And otherwise it was just raucous and crazy.
Everyone was dressed really beautifully. They had a silent auction
(56:18):
that had like a perrari and a jeep because the
head of the jeep company is Italian.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Man, this is one thing I would want to go do.
This is the first thing you've ever mentioned that I
want to go.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Do COMPARI sponsored the pre party, so we had negron eneties.
It was great, and then it was just person after
person they were celebrating. Also, Georgia Maloney, you know, phoned
in from Italy and she's so pretty. She was the
first of many people to thank President Trump for restoring
(56:49):
Columbus Day, which I guess like had officially been changed
to Hate America Day, or through the.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Form of Indigenous Indigenous People's Day, which I'm all.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I like holidays, I'm all for more holidays. The idea
that you would replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day
is such a slap. And so Maloney says that she's like,
we all know the reason they get rid of Columbus Days.
They don't want to give credit to the great Italian
Americans who have helped build America, you know. And everyone
was like cheering, and then more people were mentioning that,
(57:23):
and Maria Bartiromo was there, speaking of very pretty people.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Am I allowed to ask you why you were invited
to this? I mean, obviously you're a public, you're a celebrity,
but aren't you part of Italian maybe a little bit
at the.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Time, I am in no way Italian except for love
of Italy, and I had a friend who invited me.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
I love the Italians. My wife is Italian. She comes
from the Italian family. I grew up around Italians. I
love Italian stuff. Telling cars I mean from Afar. That
sounds like fun. Oh man, I'm curious of that. Usually,
like I went to the you know, the some kind
(58:09):
of boring DC thing that would never want to go to.
But this sounded amazing. Yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm sure
the stuff he goes to is very interesting. Was this
a good episode or a bad episode? I can tell
talking a mile minute. I'm so tired. Okay, if you'd
like to reach the show, please do so at radio
(58:29):
at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to hear from you.
We'll be back next week. Until then, be lovers of
freedom and anxious for the play of add Shitter.
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