July 3, 2025 • 49 mins
We are beyond excited to have this weeks episode, Devon Kramer died—and came back with insights that could shift your entire reality. In this episode, Dev shares his near-death experience, how it led to the creation of the Unified Pressure Field theory, and why frequency, sacred math, and manifestation are the true keys to healing. Dive deep into Matrix Mysteries, discover how science meets spirit, and hear what the other side revealed about our purpose on Earth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey everyone, and welcome to Fifty Shades of Bullshit. I'm
your host, Christine Lalan, and this is the podcast where
we uncover the truth about online dating.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Now let's begin. Hey everyone, I'm Christine and I'm Steve,
and this is fifty Shades of Bullshit. You know, I'd
never think about the introduction stuff that comes on until
we're sitting here waiting, and then I'm like, oh my god,
I need to change that audio because it's not just
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about uncovering the truth of online dating.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
You've expanded your your topics and you're now covering all
of life.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We do because most of life is fifty shades a
fucking bullshit.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
All crazy, but we got a lot, right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Shit, Yeah, that's right, I guess. So how's how's life
for you this week?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Steve?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Life is good. This has been a fun run with
you kind of being the co host.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm so glad you said that, because I love having
you here. It has been amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I love I'm very fascinated by our guests today. You
send me his info and I was like, Wow, this
sounds really.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Fascinating because one of them. I don't think that you
know that I'm an end of life dula. So that's
one of the things in one of the areas I
want to work with people more so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
This is someone I guess we're going to introduce him
in a minute, but someone who had a death experience and.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I did not know that about you. Yeah, so I
learned something new. All the time, I.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Ask questions for him about it because I have not
been to the other side of myself, at least.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That I know of, right right. I have a ton
of questions for him too, And I know that everybody
listening is really excited to hear it, and they don't
want to hear about my bullshit week. You know, I
don't hear about it, though I will say, my new
job is pretty cool, and there were issues there as
well with people being jealous and mean to me. But whatever,
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their shit will come. So Karmen is a beautiful bitch
and that shit will happen. So I actually want to
get to Devin really quickly too, because there's so much
to cover and not enough time to cover it. So
I'm going to tell you a little about Devin and
then we're going to bring him on. Devin Kramer is
a spiritual teacher. He is a near death experience survivor
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God that gives me and makes me want to cry
every time I say it, and creator of the unified
pressure field theory. He leads Matrix Mysteries. Matrix Mysteries, it's
a community of over one million seekers and shares teachings
on healing, manifestation, and frequency based reality. That's actually how
I know Devon. I am in the Matrix Mysteries groups
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on Facebook. Devin is also the founder of Nine Vibes Universal,
a platform that blends science, spirit and sacred math to
help others align with truth and purpose. So let's bring
on Devon. I am literally never been so excited to
talk to somebody.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Hey, Devine, there thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We're so happy you one uh survived your near death
period and two surviving enough so you can be here.
We are thrilled. So tell us let's start out, Devin,
with you telling us what happened to where you had
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this near death experience.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
So my near death experience was January twentieth, twenty seventeen.
I was a complete normal day, sunny out. I was
playing with my dog, and all of a sudden, I
felt everything in my body something was wrong. I could
just feel like my body was almost shutting down. So
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if you imagine like a computer, it was just slowly
shutting down. And I started to go into panic mode.
So I had grabbed my phone. I had called nine
one one. I was talking to the woman and I
told her that I felt like there was poison that
was running through my body, because that's exactly what it
felt like. Just every single level was just going down
at that point. And so I don't remember finishing the
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phone call. I remember hitting the counter and then falling
to the ground. So the next that I remember, as
I remember getting up. The moment that I got up,
I looked around and everything was different. Colors were completely different.
I wouldn't even be able to describe the colors that
I was seeing. At that time. I could see energy lines.
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I could see basically grids around me, and I felt
like I was inside and outside of time at the
exact same time. And so at this point in time,
I started walking around. I had walked around my living
room and I had looked at the TV and the
TV was completely frozen. It was not moving whatsoever. And
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that was a bit odd because it was January twenty a,
twenty seventeen, which was the President's inauguration, and so there
was things all over the TV, and at this point
it's completely frozen. So I thought to myself, Oh my gosh,
a comet hit, a catastrophic event, an apocalyptic event, a nuke,
anything along those lines.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Something had happened.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
And at that point time this voice had spoken to
me and said, no, this is about you. And so
at that point I had realized that I had died,
and all of a sudden, this overwhelming energy just went
over me. Everything about me that was broken before was
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instantly whole. If you've ever felt unloved, I felt more
loved in that moment than I ever had in my
whole entire life. I had been in and out of
the hospital twenty two times for kidney infections, kidney failure.
I went septic in the hospital, I had a gooraphobia.
I hadn't been outside of my house or to a
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restaurant in almost twelve years. So at that point I
felt completely healed, I felt whole, I felt connected. It
was absolutely incredible. And so as I was thinking all this,
I'm looking out the window and I see this bunny
that is going across and the grass was the rightest,
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most incredible green I had ever seen in my life.
But it wasn't just the colors that were amazing. I
was watching this bunny move and I was seeing the
energy that was actually pushing it. And so then I
had turned around the corner, and as I had turned
around the corner, that's when I saw my body. It
was lying on the ground where I had fallen. And
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so at that point then came all the knowledge. And
the only way that I know how to describe this
is if you were handed fifteen books of all the
knowledge you would want to know, but it's written another language.
So I'm getting this immense amount of downloaded information quantum
mechanics and physics. I didn't know any of this stuff,
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and so it's just coming in downloads. And not only that,
also my life. So I didn't actually go through a
life review. I was instantly and instantaneously given the compassion
I needed for everybody who had hurt me in my life.
It's like I didn't have to go through all that.
It was just instantly given. And so then these massive
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doors appeared. They were huge, and there was this light
that was actually behind them. This is something you hear
quite often and these stories. There was this light that
was behind these doors, and I knew that everything inside
of me wanted to go towards these doors, wanted to
go towards this light. I just knew that I didn't
want to do it alone. So what I had done
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is I had called my lab over to me, and
she had heard me somehow. She had come over to
where I had sat down, and I remember petting her
and feeling not her fur, but actually feeling this energy.
And so I'd closed my eyes as these doors got
closer and closer and closer, and then the second that
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they were about to hit me, suddenly I'm back on
the ground. I am looking up at two EMTs, I
can't hear or really see anything very clearly, almost like again,
a computer is now starting up, and so it was
slowly rebooting. Suddenly I could hear out of my ear.
Suddenly they were talking to me. They're checking vitals. They
had actually stayed with me for three hours. It took
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three hours to convince me that I wasn't still dead.
That's how traumatic this experience was. And so at that
point in time, they had finally left, I had gone
to bed, and when I woke up the next day,
I started writing this information down and from there that's
where nine vibes came from.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So do you continually get kind of like downloads or
is it just all the knowledge that was given to
you in that moment it just stayed with you.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So and the beginning I thought that I was receiving downloads,
but then I understood that it's actually just re remembering
what had actually been given to me. And that's why
I can go from one topic to the next topic
very very easily. I don't spend a lot of time studying.
It just clicks into place for me. And so that's
when I understood that it was actually just re remember
what was shared.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know, I've never really had this fear of death.
I have no fear of death. What I have fear
of you want to call it fear, is thinking about
all the things and all the people that are happening
right now, feeling like I'm going to miss that or
be gone from that. Did you have that kind of
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feeling at all when you were experiencing this or thought
about that?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Since since then, I did not actually have that feeling
at all. There is a clarity that is given to
you that everything that is going on on Earth in
the three D is literally just that it's a game
that's being played. And I don't mean that in terms
of a video game. What I mean is that the
end is already written. It is okay. Everybody is absolutely
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okay once they're officially out of this. You only suffer here.
There's only fear here. And so no, I didn't have that.
It wasn't until I had actually met my fiance basically
two years later, that suddenly I didn't have the answer
of what it would be like if you were that
connected to someone, Although I have received that answer as.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, What answer have you received about that?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I basically received the understanding that as long as two
people are choosing each other, that love will surpass any
of the fears that we have of being separated. There
is a moment of reuniting that is far more powerful
than anything that we experience here. And so you are
not disconnected. But things like our parents, things like our friends,
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they have their own internal experience that they're going through.
And so it is really the ones that you choose
actively to stay connected to that you will be able
to reunite with.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh I see, so Mickey, one of our listeners actually
just said, can you talk about the doors with a
light again? Is there any more clarification or any more
knowledge that you have about those doors?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
And yeah, So the doors were basically the stepping point
between where the electron becomes positive. So this is something
I've talked about on matrix mysteries. Here in the three D,
the electron is negative. We all agree with that. We
verify that when you move into the four D, which
is basically that space that I was in between literally
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moving on and here, that is where the electron is neutral.
That's why you get all the information, that's why you
get all your answers, that's why you can see your
life without being emotionally charged, because it's neutral. At that point,
when it moves into what some call the five D
or heaven, whatever you want to call it, the electron
shifts to positive. So here in the three D, it
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is easier to be sick than it is to be healthier.
It is easier to be poor than it is to
be rich. It is easier to be angry than it
is to forgive. But in the five D it reverses.
It is easier to be kind than it is to
be unkind, is easier to be healthy than it is
to be sick.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And so it was just.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
That light of that reversal of that energy equals m
squet mc squared basically reversed.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
That is.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I have some interesting questions, lots of questions actually, but
one of the things I'm really curious about is before
this experience, what was your relationship with spirituality or God
or what what was it like for you before you
had this experience.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Yes, so before this experience, I had been raised in
the church. I was taught by the church. In fact,
my parents were preachers. My uncle was pretty yes, non
denominational Christianity. So I went every Sunday. I was always
in church basically, but it was very fear based. So
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I have a younger sister who assistic fibrosis. They taught
us that when she basically when we make mistakes, she's
the one who pays for them. So I had a
very unhealthy relationship with God. With spirituality, I didn't step
outside the lines. I tried to stay on it as
much as possible. I didn't even start meditating until after
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this experience.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
That's when I oerdoors of meditation and learning all of that.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So it was very dogmatic for me, even though that was,
you know, my path at that time. But after this experience,
it broke everything open. And the most important thing for
me in my nd was understanding there is no help
because what people don't understand about me is that I
wasn't exactly the greatest person. Prior to this experience. I
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had messed up in relationships, I had hurt people. I
had a clear path of damage.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
What was that you said, there is no hell, there
is no help, there's.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
No help, There is no help.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There is Oh, I don't believe there is a hell either.
I think we're all energy and we're all vibrational and
and that shifts. Like you said, I've read so much
about the positive and nega between the two different spaces
that you're that you were talking about. I can't describe
them properly because I only have a feeling that I'm
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trying to explain, you know what I mean. And so
for me, I've always thought that it was a different
place where we are our souls and we are all
connected by energy through our through our souls, and that
it's the place where we go and re download what
we're supposed to, you know, what we were here to
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do and what we didn't do, and then process that.
I mean, how far am I off on that?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
No, You're very close. I think.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
The only part that I would add to this is
to understand that the three D is not actual physicality,
and the five D is also the equality of here.
So in other words, you are still physical. You still
can do things. You still can hug and kiss, you
still can run around, you can do all these different things.
The only difference is that here we believe that basically
the field or the universe is a against us.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
There, you already know.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
That it's working for you, so it changes you get
to live the life basically you wanted to live if
fear and doubt wouldn't have kept you back.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Interesting, you know, I said that to somebody today. He's
this person came to give a quote about a job
and we were talking. He said something about his fiance
and I said something about his wedding, and he said
that his girlfriend or fiance was calling him and saying,
you know, freaking out about something, how something wasn't working out.
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And I said, actually, if you think about it the
opposite way. If you think that we don't know everything,
so what we don't know, the universe does. And sometimes
I like to say the universe helps us, I mean
hurts us to help us. We think it's we're being hurt,
but we're being guided in the right direction and we
just start seeing more of that negative. Is that what
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you're saying?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yes, yes, very much.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So okay, okay, I get this.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
You talk a lot about a unified pressure feel what
is that. I've been curious about that for a while.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yes, so the unipride pressure field is basically the field
that is all around us that we can't see, that
physics and science is trying to understand and the reason. Yes, yeah,
but when I talk about in actual pressure field. Imagine
it like a slope, Imagine it like a hill in essence,
so the very bottom of the hill is going to
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have the most density, the very top is going to
be the least amount, it's going to be lighter. And
so the reason this is so important is because currently,
right now with physics, we focus on gravity, which means
that something is being pulled towards something. In the unified
pressure field, it's actually saying that it's being pushed.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
And the reason that's.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Important even in spirituality, is because if you believe that
things can be pulled, then you believe that things are
happening to you, not your happening to the world. And
so when you reverse this understanding, all of a sudden,
it starts to make sense that everything around you is conscious, aware,
and including the field. And so it's this invisible field
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and soon we will be able to see it. Soon
we will be able to do the math behind it
to actually verify. But basically it is the field in
terms of how everything works. And to give you a
little little tip on it, it vibrates at four hundred
and thirty two hertz. So this is important because when
you look at the speed of light in NASA, they'll
say it's one hundred and eighty six two hundred and
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eighty two miles per second. Well, the actual speed of
light is one hundred and eighty six thousand, six hundred
and twenty four, which is four thirty two squared. So
it all very much connects. If you get into the
Egyptian Egyptian Book of the Dead, it talks about four
thirty two is the frequency they tune to. If you
look at Bach and Beethoven, they actually tune their instruments
to four hundred and thirty two A. So it's been
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all throughout history.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I listened to that at night.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I did listen to four. I was like, wait a minute,
that's one of my hurts for thirty two eight eighty eight.
And there's two others. I can't think about it at
the moment, but there are several hurts that I listened
to at night, and this one feels like I feel,
I don't know, more in tune more.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Aligned, Yes, you'll feel more connected because that's exactly what
it's vibrating at.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
So you're just meeting that resonance.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I love that one of our guests, people asked real quick.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, sounds like some people in our chat are fascinated
with something they are experience, Like Mickey is fascinated about
the door.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, can you talk about the doors and the light again?
Was there just one door?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah? How long were you in the in between state
before you came back, like when the paramedics came. How
long were was that?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So I had lived out in North Carolina, so I
lived quite a bit out So it was roughly anywhere
between thirty and forty minutes this whole experience, although in
all honesty, it felt a lot longer as I was
saying through.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It actually dead at that time in the physical world.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes, this is the whole time. I'm seeing my actual body,
so I can see it. It is laying on the ground,
and yet I am walking around, and so in that state,
I was there probably about thirty to forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's how do you think this changed the way you
see life and death now?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Drastically in every single way. I am not afraid of death.
I am not worried even a little bit about death.
I'm not worried about even the moment of death. I
think that There's something that people should know, which is
that when it is your final moment, you actually do
not experience pain. So your body will react just like
a knee jerk reaction, but you do not feel any pain.
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In fact, the only reason you will ever feel pain
in an NDE or even any situation that is traumatic
is when you are actually coming back. That's then when
it kicks your body in and says, hey, now you
need to feel this pain because you are actually here
in the three D. But the moment that you're going
to transition, there is zero pain whatsoever, no matter the situation.
So that is drastically changing.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
What about leading up to that moment?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Leading up to that moment there is so up until
the point that the decision is made, there absolutely can
be pain because once the decision is made, then at
that point there's no turning back. But up until that point,
just like anything in life, you can definitely feel pain.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So is there safe to say there really is? Like
letting go?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
There is? Yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When you a lot of people who do a near
death experience say that a lot of their loved ones
are greeting them or coming to them or being there
for them, you know, during that time. Is that something
you experienced or did you get any download about what
that is about?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
So I didn't actually experience a guide other than that
voice that was kind of walking me through this, and
that was enough for me.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Some people ask me, was that God?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Was that Jesus? I don't know the answer to that.
I just know that it was something that I resonated
with at that level to trust enough to understand what
was going on.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But it was my dog. Actually, I had no friends.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Being a gorophobic, you don't really go out in the world,
so I didn't have any friends, or I didn't really
have any family members or anything like that that showed
up in that. It was really just me and my
dog and the voice that was guiding me.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Wow, I find it really interesting what you said about
instant compassion.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That was fascinating. Yes, I imagine all resentments, regrets just gone.
Is that that accurate?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Yes, this is something that I talk about because I
think that the church and religion got very close to it,
but then kind of skewed a different way. Compassion is
a burning, So when they talk about hell burning, I
think this is what they were talking about. Compassion is
a burning. It burns away the illusions, it burns away
the separation, it burns away the fear. But it's not
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something you physically feel. It's kind of the same thing
like when you listen to music and it can really
hit you, but it doesn't physical hurt you.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It's kind of the exact same thing.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
And all that people need is just a little bit
of clarity and a large amount of compassion, and they
would understand everything that they did in life, no matter
the situation.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So I grew up in a really bad place bad situations, okay,
and I had some really horrific things done to me,
and that person is now deceased, okay, And I've been
trying to learn how to grow within myself to forgive
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and let go, and I've never really been able to
do it until fairly recently. I heard something that said
that when our souls go through that doorway to the
light that you're talking about, to the positive side, that
that person is no longer the things that are attached
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to him or her that they were doing that were
the negative, terrible things. Here, their soul is pure again
when they get to that other side and they are
no longer that thing or way that they were when
they were here, and it allowed me to go, you
know what, that is just something that happened. Isn't who
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I am, It isn't who they are, and it just
is what it is. And I've been able to come
to terms with it, and I think let go a
lot more than I've ever have in my life. What
are your thoughts on that, about that whole concept of
people being different when they get to that positive other side.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, that is absolutely spot on to a t, because
when you go through the four D, it's not just
you that goes through it, right, when everybody goes through
that four D, that neutral transition. The only way you
even get to the other side is to clear that
soul like you're talking about, to clear that signal, to
get rid of all the distortions. You see why a
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father did something, why your mother did something, and you
have that understanding the same way that when we watched
you know, TV shows and we get to see the
life of the villain and we go, oh, that's why
they turned out that way.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And so yes, when you.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Come out on the other side, there is no more
of that fractal brokenness. There is just the completeness and
there is a reason that you chose that bond in
the first place. Right, the world is the thing that
twisted it up untwisted, and you have that person that
was always there underneath.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Wow, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I had been I had read something a long time ago,
many Lives Mini Masters, I think is what it's called,
and it said something about how we chose the life
we live. And for years and years I was angry
about that because I thought, how the fuck could I
have chosen this goddamn wretched life that I live? And
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then I thought, you know what, it's there's a reason,
and I am who I am, and the life that
I am living now is the reasons for all of that.
So I can I think I can grasp that. I
think it's harder for people too, but I think people
can if they try.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
Light always illuminates the most in darkness. Right as you
ask yourself who am I and you don't have an answer?
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Am I?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Love?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
And my kindness? You've got to go to a place
that is actually going to allow that. And I think
that Neil Donald Walsh did a really, really good job
in his book Conversations with God when he basically says
you're a candle standing in front of the sun and
you're asking yourself, am I bright? You're never going to
know the answer to that until you officially back away
from the sun. So the more you back away, the
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more brighter you realize you truly are.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So tell me what do you think? Or tell us
how do how can we understand grief and healing and
how it shows up because I know a lot of
people are listening today because of grief.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Right, So, grief is a very powerful energy. Grief and
guilt will kill you. Those are the two g's that
will absolutely take you down. And so when we come here,
the most important thing here is bonds.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Bonds will keep you alive.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
When you bond with someone, it's actually you putting in
a portion of your energy, they put in a portion
of their energy. There's a whole mathematical equation of vortex
math which ends up generating a vesica pisces, which is
two circles overlapping, and in that center space is where
you create. So when you find people that do not
have connections, like I was living, you're basically dying in essence.
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You're using your own energy to self sustain an illusion
of life. So when we are grieving, and grief is
actually a gift in the understanding that it's the ability
to say goodbye to the illusion you're holding on to,
because ultimately there is never a goodbye. And so when
someone is going through grief, it is because of the
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fact that the energy that the other person put into
that bond returned to them, and then the energy that
you put into that bond.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Is now returning to you.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Any point in time that you feel energy coming your way,
if you don't know what it is, it hurts. That's
why heartache hurts. That's why breaking up with people hurts.
It's because that energy that you put in is coming
back to you. So you have two choices with grief.
You can accept it or you can reject it. If
you accept it, it actually ends up becoming a gift,
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and many people have written books and stories about how
going through that process is changed their life or changed
other people's lives. If you reject it, it becomes a haunting.
It is something then that literally follows you around. It's
why if you watch horror stories, you'll always find grief
or guilt right right at the core, because that's exactly
what allows that to exist. But if you follow it
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and you trust it, and you allow it to basically
become part of you, you take that energy, you understand
and you realize you will have that reuniting, it amplifies
and becomes something that changes your life drastically.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let's stick with the death thing for a couple more minutes,
because I think that there's a big misunderstanding that people
have about death. What do you think that you could
tell us that could help us understand this better.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
So I'm sure that you hear a lot of people
that will say death doesn't exist. But the reality is
we live in a dualistic world, right, There is no
hot without cold. If all that exists was hot, we
wouldn't label it anything different. Therefore we wouldn't label it hot.
Therefore it wouldn't exist. So life and death go hand
in hand with each other. It's the thing that allows
you to compare. Right, you choose to live your life
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the best way that you can because of the fact
that you're afraid of death. But it's very much an illusion,
the same way that hot and cold is caught. Hot
is literally just a different version of cold, and cold
is just a different version of hot, and both of
them belong to temperature, so it's the same thing you
belong to the field. Your soul exists beyond all the
choices and all the things that you've done. So death
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is basically the moment that that your personal field collapses,
and now you are free, because as long as the
field exists, you exist in the field. Once the field collapses,
just like a star collapses, it has a choice to
go super nova and explode and give or it has
a choice to close in and become a black hole,
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which then just allows another life.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Black holes are literally we're inside of a giant black
hole in essence, because that's how we even exist. So
it's kind of the exact same thing. You have a
choice to go in and then therefore you would become
an essence, a black hole, and that means that you
would then just move on to the next life. Or
you have a choice to go super nova, which allows
you to move on to the five D. Everything is
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about choice. But in that moment of the four D,
I can honestly tell you probably ninety nine percent of
people don't choose to come back to this life because
they then understand that the five D gives them everything
they truly actually wanted gotcha.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
So what advice would you give someone who's grieving.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Oh, I've given lots of advice to people that are grieving.
So first and foremost, no one has ever gone. So
when you are no longer compressed by the field, you
are then part of the field. And if you're part
of the field, then for instance, listening to your favorite
song of somebody, or watching their favorite show, or writing
something down, they have the ability to interact with you.
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Most people who are grieving are dealing with fear, and
fear will block that very gentle, very loving signal of
I'm here, I'm here with you. And that's why a
lot of people will feel their animals long before they'll
feel somebody who actually passed away. It's because of the
fact that they move through grief quicker and so therefore
than the animal then can send the signals to let
you know I'm still here, because no one ever goes away.
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And so when I talk to parents who have lost children,
I tell them whyat your breathing, why it' your mind?
Because your child is very much speaking to you. They
have the awareness, the understanding that you do not have,
and therefore they want to guide you. They want to
be there for you until that moment that you then
transition and that reuniting happens.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You know, I've been saying for a while since my well.
I suffered for a very decades after my grandmother passed.
But after my mom passed, I got kind of a
I started manifesting, I started meditating, and I started dimensional traveling.
So I want to ask you about that too. But
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I realized that I got an I got my own download.
That was I was told that I am more. They
are more with me now because they're in within everything
than when they were alive. Like when they were alive,
they were only with me when I called them or
I go in to go see them. But now that
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they're gone, I was told they're with me more than ever.
So I resonate with that that that really hits me.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yes, they are never gone.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I love that like so much. Ruth Rhodes says, it's
definitely different when you have a near death experience and
are looking at your deceased body. I pleaded not to
come back. I resonated with what he was describing. I'm
I can't even imagine what it would be like to
have a near death experience in being so overwhelmed with
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like what you're talking about, and knowing that you could
move on, but then not being able to and being
pulled back into this life. I can't imagine how you
would keep going forward. Has it helped you? Has it
helped you get past your gooraphobia? Are you living a
different life now?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Oh, night and day? Absolutely it's helped me. When I
started writing in these journals and writing this information down,
I started applying it to my life. So I had
actually figured out how to manifest, and I teach it
every single day. It's thirty six days, that's all that
it takes. And you can manifest anything in your life.
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And I'm not saying you know you have to pick
and choose certain things. I am saying absolutely anything I
have fully healthy, functioning kidneys that do hospital could not
explain has no answer to. I am not a gloraphobic.
I actually proposed to my fiance at Disneyland amongst forty
five thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Yeah, everything about my life. I no longer live where
I used to live, not paycheck to paycheck. I lived
a paycheck behind. I now live and flow. I am
financially doing well. I spend my days just teaching people,
guiding people. I love life immensely and it all changed
from that experience, and so I followed the thirty six days.
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I followed the steps that I was shown, and it
just kept revealing more and more, to the point that
now I teach it every day.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I love that people in the back talk. You know,
people who watch through Facebook or any of the lives
can see some of the comments. But Lynn says, yes,
I felt the same after my father passed, and he
is with me all the time. That can't happen when
they're with you here on earth. And then Lynn also
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said Devin is an amazing kind wise beyond his year's soul.
A blessing to the answers we ask, I love that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I have a question. Yeah, I'm curious if there's something
that you developed a sense of humor about that you
never see that you know, all the funny things that
human beings do that you realize that is just ridiculous,
Like why do you believe that? I'm very curious about that,
But I know I of my discoveries spiritual growth.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Humans are are absolutely fascinating. We are the only species
in nature that basically perceives our understanding from inside out.
So all of nature, animals, everything, they look at the
outside and bring it in. We're the ones who look
inside and then project it out. So after this experience,
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especially when I'm talking to people about like how any
of those things and they're just talking about what was
written in the book and I had this experience, I
have this confidence. I'm not an unkind person and I
will never tell someone they're wrong. That's not my place
to do that. But there are a lot of things
that I see. There's a lot of things that are
going on in politics right now, and it's all just
(36:23):
a game. It's a chess game, right and it's not
one side is better than the other. It's who can
play the best move at that time. So we move
back and forth from Democrat to Republican all the time
throughout history, because that's truly what it's really about. There
are many things that are going on in this world
that I have to look back and go, it's only
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being played here and that is all that truly matters,
you know, in that understanding and to understand that the
kind of ripples that like you guys are doing will
change things when people start understanding that we actually do
live in a push gravity, not a poll. You happen
to this world, you change things, even something like anybody
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who's ever seen interstellar, they try to explain to all
the math that the closer that you get to the Sun, right,
the slower that time gets because of a pole. Well,
it's actually a push. The closer that you get to
the Sun. The Sun actually has the most amount of patterns.
The Sun actually uses fusion every single day, and we
can't even figure out fusion. So it has all this
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pattern and all this memory. And the more memory and
pattern that something has, the more mass it has. The
more mass it has, the more it creates a more
dense slope. So if you're at the bottom of that slope,
in other words, if you're coming up to the Sun,
time will literally slow down.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
And that's what time dilation is. It's not a pole,
it's a push.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Love that.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
So for you personally, do you feel like you are
still in this three D experience at the same time
have access to the four.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
D or the five D?
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I very much feel like I walk a bridge. It's
really easy for me to meditate, really easy for me
to astra project very easy for me to receive downloads
on new information. Someone will tell me about something and
sudden they I'll just go into a meditation and then
I have all the information to basically make it a
complete kind of thought. But I definitely also except that
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I live here. I love my relationship, my life, I
love helping people.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I love that you had talked about manifesting and I
am the biggest proponent for manifesting. I talk about it
all the time to everybody. What is manifesting? And really
is it something we do or is it something we
tune into.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
So manifesting is basically to become the frequency of the
thing that you want. So there are many books that
are out there, The Secret, the Law of One. They're
all trying to teach these type of things, but they
kind of leave you without a foundation to stand on. Yeah,
so there is a very key way to do this,
and it follows Nikola Tesla's three nine. If you remember
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that quote, if you only knew the magnificence of three
six and nine, you would have a key to the universe.
And it's because of the fact that it takes thirty
six days to manifest. So currently, right now we live
on a timeline that believes that we have three hundred
and sixty five days a year, and that is based
off of the understanding of the sun. But if you
have an internal understanding of time, if you have an
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internal understanding of a clock, it's actually four hundred and
thirty two days. So that goes back to that four
thirty two I was talking about. So if we had
four hundred and thirty two days a year, we would
have twelve months of thirty six days, twelve different times
to be able to manifest something in your life.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Okay, so it.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Starts like this. Day one, you start manifestation. You announce
to the field, the unified pressure field, what you want.
Day three you add a frequency, a thought, you write
something down, you speak something out loud. Day six you
add a vibration. You actually do something. So for instance,
if you want to lose weight, you walk around your
house five times. Whatever it happens to be, it doesn't matter.
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Day nine then is going to be the amplification of
day three and six. So you just do the same
thing you did on day three and six and then
add something, add something extra to that. So at that
point in time, you have officially created loops. Okay, So
then you repeat it. You repeat it because of the
fact that any cycle needs two it's not a cycle
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if it only has one. It needs to be verifiable
by two things. So you repeat the exact same steps
that will take you to eighteen days.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
At the eighteenth day, the field is now observing your pattern.
You created the pattern, you showed that the cycle exists,
and now the field, like I said, that is conscious
and aware, is now observing you. So you do the
exact same thing you did for the first eighteen days.
It will lock in a combination of six loops in essence,
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and it'll create the atom, which is exactly what an
atom looks like. If you go look at that old school,
it's got those six sloops. It's got three of them.
And then of course each side is a loop that
locks in light. Light with pressure becomes manifestation. And so
it takes thirty six days for you to manifest.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Wow, that's amazing. So you are teaching this as well.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yes, however, I actually just wrote a book on this.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Wow. Okay, I'm going to learn a lot from you, Devin.
I do have like a question about something, so I
think I've traveled. No, I've traveled interdimensionally, okay. And when
I was manifesting and meditating, I experienced my mom and
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my grandmother coming to me, and they took me to
a place, whether it's a timeline or a dimension, where
I had what I've been manifesting, what I've been wanting
in my life. They showed me a place and time
where I have the things I want, so that I
could feel the feelings of what it feels like to
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be there, to know that it was real that I'm
going there, and now I work towards that is do
you think that that was a possibility of it being
my imagination or do I or was it something really
that could have happened.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
I absolutely believe that's something that happened.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
The only thing I'll add to it is what it
was showing you was exactly what I'm talking about. So
when you go through that eighteen days and you only
focus on the three, the six, and the nine, then
basically you start becoming the new frequency that will be you.
So you start this as a frequency and each three, six,
and nine days, so in other words, it'd be three, six, nine, twelve, fifteen,
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and eighteen each one of those changes your frequency, and
so as you're changing through this process, you then come out,
in essence a new frequency by the end of the
thirty six days, and that frequency aligns with exactly what
it was that you wanted. It already exists, you're just
not living it.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'm seeing that, I feel that, I see that one
hundred percent. What about what's the difference between you think
are dimensions and timelines?
Speaker 7 (43:09):
So dimension and timelines are a little bit different in
so dimensions basically are measurement to divide. Is what that
means in essence the division of time and essence. So
when you're dealing with dimensions, we have thirteen dimensions. This
is actually found when you study Metatron's cube. You take
thirteen circles, you draw a line to each and every circle,
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you'll actually create Metatron's cube, and you also create all
five potonic solids naturally within it, just by drawing lines.
So there are thirteen dimensions that you can actually be
a part of in essence and have a perspective inside
of that. In terms of timelines, the reality of timelines
is the understanding that every single time that you change
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a frequency in your life, you move to another timeline.
And so this is something I talk about on Matrix Mysteries.
When someone puts down a cup in the beginning of
their day and then they go into their room and
they do something and no one else is in that house.
But let's say that they meditate or they listen to
music that really lifts their spirit, or whatever it happens
to be, and they come back out and their cup
is gone. They literally move to another timeline. It's not
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the fact that it's glitching or breaking or anything. It's
that we are constantly moving through timelines. And the more
awareness we have of this, the more we're going to
see these I have.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Been feeling that it was like that for a long time,
and I kept telling myself, I must be going crazy.
There's no reason. Thank you so much for that moment
just now, because a lot of things just really click
in my head. I literally said to somebody the other
day that I thought that something was missing because I
no longer am in the same time in space as it.
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That it just I didn't misplace it. I'm in a
different place exactly. Yes, it's the same with the Mandela effect.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
The people that actually, if you notice, we call them
awake right, regardless of where they are in their life,
will say, oh, you're more. What they're really saying is
you're on a different timeline, and if you're on a
different timeline, things actually change. Now, the easiest things to
actually change are going to be virtual things. Why because
your mind isn't set that that's physical, that's real. So
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it's easy to change virtual things. It's easy to change
movie titles or quotes and movies and things like that,
but it very much affects our real life. And that's
why I started Matrix Mysteries. I wanted people to share
their stories of all the small moments that most people
would say, that's just in your head, but in reality,
it was enough to write your story and it stuck
with you.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I love the Facebook group like I love it. It
is so great.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
You should go and search that out and join that group.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I'm in it.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
It's amazing, Devin I there are so many things that
people want to know about and so many questions. By
the way, anybody who has questions for Devin, if you
want to email them into us, send them to fifty
Shades of Bullshit at gmail dot com. You have to
spell out fifty fifty and you have to put a
(46:07):
y instead of eye for bullshit. But send us your
questions and Devin, I gotta have you back. Are you
coming back with us? Because this absolutely way too fast.
I will get you scheduled asap because I really feel
that there's so many questions that people have that we
didn't even come close to touching today.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, I would love to come back.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
That would be amazing. And how can I and others
bind you to be able to do this manifesting with
to learn more about this?
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Yes, So you can go on to Facebook and you
can search nine vibes Universal.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I actually teach daily.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
I'll have a post that is somehow teaching about the
unified pressure field, Fibonacci sequence, golden ratio, vortex math, whatever
it happens to be that's in the flow at that
point in time. You can also go to my website
which is www dot nine vibes Universal dot com. That's
a nine at the front. Everything is about three, six
and nines in my life. And you can also email
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me directly. I get a lot of emails from people,
and that is also nine vibes Universal at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
What's crazy is that my entire world is about three
six and nine.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
That's awesome, that's.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Great, that's crazy, it really it really is. Sorry, I'm
feeling like super moved this moeting. I'm really real that
you could be here today, Devin. You're an incredible person,
and I'm so so grateful that this world gets to
have you back for a little bit at least, and
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that we get to learn from you. I'm very very
grateful that you are here.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
So thank you. Thank you very much for having me. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I uh, I know we have some dates. It led
up part of July. If I could get I'll get
together with you, Devin, and we'll get you booked.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Okay, okay, sounds great.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Thank you for being here today. I feel like we
only touched a tiny, tiny sliver of what you could
bless us with. But thank you everyone who came and
participated today. Your questions and your your your feedback in
the back end of comments is awesome. We love that
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so much. Thank you everyone for being here again today.
Thank you, Steve, You're the best. I love you, and
we're going to be here, same time, same place next week.
Next week is how to be safe online, and until then,
hold on to second Devin, I'll talk to you after
the show, and until then, let's just keep this shit real.
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Speaker 3 (49:03):
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Hey everyone, and welcome to Fifty Shades of Bullshit. I'm
your host, Christine Lalan, and this is the podcast where
we uncover the truth about online dating.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Now let's begin. Hey everyone, I'm Christine and I'm Steve,
and this is fifty Shades of Bullshit. You know, I'd
never think about the introduction stuff that comes on until
we're sitting here waiting, and then I'm like, oh my god,
I need to change that audio because it's not just
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about uncovering the truth of online dating.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
You've expanded your your topics and you're now covering all
of life.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We do because most of life is fifty shades a
fucking bullshit.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
All crazy, but we got a lot, right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Shit, Yeah, that's right, I guess. So how's how's life
for you this week?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Steve?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Life is good. This has been a fun run with
you kind of being the co host.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm so glad you said that, because I love having
you here. It has been amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I love I'm very fascinated by our guests today. You
send me his info and I was like, Wow, this
sounds really.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Fascinating because one of them. I don't think that you
know that I'm an end of life dula. So that's
one of the things in one of the areas I
want to work with people more so.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
This is someone I guess we're going to introduce him
in a minute, but someone who had a death experience and.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I did not know that about you. Yeah, so I
learned something new. All the time, I.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Ask questions for him about it because I have not
been to the other side of myself, at least.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That I know of, right right. I have a ton
of questions for him too, And I know that everybody
listening is really excited to hear it, and they don't
want to hear about my bullshit week. You know, I
don't hear about it, though I will say, my new
job is pretty cool, and there were issues there as
well with people being jealous and mean to me. But whatever,
(02:35):
their shit will come. So Karmen is a beautiful bitch
and that shit will happen. So I actually want to
get to Devin really quickly too, because there's so much
to cover and not enough time to cover it. So
I'm going to tell you a little about Devin and
then we're going to bring him on. Devin Kramer is
a spiritual teacher. He is a near death experience survivor
(02:59):
God that gives me and makes me want to cry
every time I say it, and creator of the unified
pressure field theory. He leads Matrix Mysteries. Matrix Mysteries, it's
a community of over one million seekers and shares teachings
on healing, manifestation, and frequency based reality. That's actually how
I know Devon. I am in the Matrix Mysteries groups
(03:22):
on Facebook. Devin is also the founder of Nine Vibes Universal,
a platform that blends science, spirit and sacred math to
help others align with truth and purpose. So let's bring
on Devon. I am literally never been so excited to
talk to somebody.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Hey, Devine, there thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We're so happy you one uh survived your near death
period and two surviving enough so you can be here.
We are thrilled. So tell us let's start out, Devin,
with you telling us what happened to where you had
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this near death experience.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
So my near death experience was January twentieth, twenty seventeen.
I was a complete normal day, sunny out. I was
playing with my dog, and all of a sudden, I
felt everything in my body something was wrong. I could
just feel like my body was almost shutting down. So
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if you imagine like a computer, it was just slowly
shutting down. And I started to go into panic mode.
So I had grabbed my phone. I had called nine
one one. I was talking to the woman and I
told her that I felt like there was poison that
was running through my body, because that's exactly what it
felt like. Just every single level was just going down
at that point. And so I don't remember finishing the
(04:53):
phone call. I remember hitting the counter and then falling
to the ground. So the next that I remember, as
I remember getting up. The moment that I got up,
I looked around and everything was different. Colors were completely different.
I wouldn't even be able to describe the colors that
I was seeing. At that time. I could see energy lines.
(05:15):
I could see basically grids around me, and I felt
like I was inside and outside of time at the
exact same time. And so at this point in time,
I started walking around. I had walked around my living
room and I had looked at the TV and the
TV was completely frozen. It was not moving whatsoever. And
(05:36):
that was a bit odd because it was January twenty a,
twenty seventeen, which was the President's inauguration, and so there
was things all over the TV, and at this point
it's completely frozen. So I thought to myself, Oh my gosh,
a comet hit, a catastrophic event, an apocalyptic event, a nuke,
anything along those lines.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Something had happened.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
And at that point time this voice had spoken to
me and said, no, this is about you. And so
at that point I had realized that I had died,
and all of a sudden, this overwhelming energy just went
over me. Everything about me that was broken before was
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instantly whole. If you've ever felt unloved, I felt more
loved in that moment than I ever had in my
whole entire life. I had been in and out of
the hospital twenty two times for kidney infections, kidney failure.
I went septic in the hospital, I had a gooraphobia.
I hadn't been outside of my house or to a
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restaurant in almost twelve years. So at that point I
felt completely healed, I felt whole, I felt connected. It
was absolutely incredible. And so as I was thinking all this,
I'm looking out the window and I see this bunny
that is going across and the grass was the rightest,
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most incredible green I had ever seen in my life.
But it wasn't just the colors that were amazing. I
was watching this bunny move and I was seeing the
energy that was actually pushing it. And so then I
had turned around the corner, and as I had turned
around the corner, that's when I saw my body. It
was lying on the ground where I had fallen. And
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so at that point then came all the knowledge. And
the only way that I know how to describe this
is if you were handed fifteen books of all the
knowledge you would want to know, but it's written another language.
So I'm getting this immense amount of downloaded information quantum
mechanics and physics. I didn't know any of this stuff,
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and so it's just coming in downloads. And not only that,
also my life. So I didn't actually go through a
life review. I was instantly and instantaneously given the compassion
I needed for everybody who had hurt me in my life.
It's like I didn't have to go through all that.
It was just instantly given. And so then these massive
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doors appeared. They were huge, and there was this light
that was actually behind them. This is something you hear
quite often and these stories. There was this light that
was behind these doors, and I knew that everything inside
of me wanted to go towards these doors, wanted to
go towards this light. I just knew that I didn't
want to do it alone. So what I had done
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is I had called my lab over to me, and
she had heard me somehow. She had come over to
where I had sat down, and I remember petting her
and feeling not her fur, but actually feeling this energy.
And so I'd closed my eyes as these doors got
closer and closer and closer, and then the second that
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they were about to hit me, suddenly I'm back on
the ground. I am looking up at two EMTs, I
can't hear or really see anything very clearly, almost like again,
a computer is now starting up, and so it was
slowly rebooting. Suddenly I could hear out of my ear.
Suddenly they were talking to me. They're checking vitals. They
had actually stayed with me for three hours. It took
(09:10):
three hours to convince me that I wasn't still dead.
That's how traumatic this experience was. And so at that
point in time, they had finally left, I had gone
to bed, and when I woke up the next day,
I started writing this information down and from there that's
where nine vibes came from.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So do you continually get kind of like downloads or
is it just all the knowledge that was given to
you in that moment it just stayed with you.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So and the beginning I thought that I was receiving downloads,
but then I understood that it's actually just re remembering
what had actually been given to me. And that's why
I can go from one topic to the next topic
very very easily. I don't spend a lot of time studying.
It just clicks into place for me. And so that's
when I understood that it was actually just re remember
what was shared.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know, I've never really had this fear of death.
I have no fear of death. What I have fear
of you want to call it fear, is thinking about
all the things and all the people that are happening
right now, feeling like I'm going to miss that or
be gone from that. Did you have that kind of
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feeling at all when you were experiencing this or thought
about that?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Since since then, I did not actually have that feeling
at all. There is a clarity that is given to
you that everything that is going on on Earth in
the three D is literally just that it's a game
that's being played. And I don't mean that in terms
of a video game. What I mean is that the
end is already written. It is okay. Everybody is absolutely
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okay once they're officially out of this. You only suffer here.
There's only fear here. And so no, I didn't have that.
It wasn't until I had actually met my fiance basically
two years later, that suddenly I didn't have the answer
of what it would be like if you were that
connected to someone, Although I have received that answer as.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, What answer have you received about that?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I basically received the understanding that as long as two
people are choosing each other, that love will surpass any
of the fears that we have of being separated. There
is a moment of reuniting that is far more powerful
than anything that we experience here. And so you are
not disconnected. But things like our parents, things like our friends,
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they have their own internal experience that they're going through.
And so it is really the ones that you choose
actively to stay connected to that you will be able
to reunite with.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh I see, so Mickey, one of our listeners actually
just said, can you talk about the doors with a
light again? Is there any more clarification or any more
knowledge that you have about those doors?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
And yeah, So the doors were basically the stepping point
between where the electron becomes positive. So this is something
I've talked about on matrix mysteries. Here in the three D,
the electron is negative. We all agree with that. We
verify that when you move into the four D, which
is basically that space that I was in between literally
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moving on and here, that is where the electron is neutral.
That's why you get all the information, that's why you
get all your answers, that's why you can see your
life without being emotionally charged, because it's neutral. At that point,
when it moves into what some call the five D
or heaven, whatever you want to call it, the electron
shifts to positive. So here in the three D, it
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is easier to be sick than it is to be healthier.
It is easier to be poor than it is to
be rich. It is easier to be angry than it
is to forgive. But in the five D it reverses.
It is easier to be kind than it is to
be unkind, is easier to be healthy than it is
to be sick.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And so it was just.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
That light of that reversal of that energy equals m
squet mc squared basically reversed.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
That is.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I have some interesting questions, lots of questions actually, but
one of the things I'm really curious about is before
this experience, what was your relationship with spirituality or God
or what what was it like for you before you
had this experience.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Yes, so before this experience, I had been raised in
the church. I was taught by the church. In fact,
my parents were preachers. My uncle was pretty yes, non
denominational Christianity. So I went every Sunday. I was always
in church basically, but it was very fear based. So
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I have a younger sister who assistic fibrosis. They taught
us that when she basically when we make mistakes, she's
the one who pays for them. So I had a
very unhealthy relationship with God. With spirituality, I didn't step
outside the lines. I tried to stay on it as
much as possible. I didn't even start meditating until after
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this experience.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
That's when I oerdoors of meditation and learning all of that.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
So it was very dogmatic for me, even though that was,
you know, my path at that time. But after this experience,
it broke everything open. And the most important thing for
me in my nd was understanding there is no help
because what people don't understand about me is that I
wasn't exactly the greatest person. Prior to this experience. I
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had messed up in relationships, I had hurt people. I
had a clear path of damage.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
What was that you said, there is no hell, there
is no help, there's.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
No help, There is no help.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There is Oh, I don't believe there is a hell either.
I think we're all energy and we're all vibrational and
and that shifts. Like you said, I've read so much
about the positive and nega between the two different spaces
that you're that you were talking about. I can't describe
them properly because I only have a feeling that I'm
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trying to explain, you know what I mean. And so
for me, I've always thought that it was a different
place where we are our souls and we are all
connected by energy through our through our souls, and that
it's the place where we go and re download what
we're supposed to, you know, what we were here to
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do and what we didn't do, and then process that.
I mean, how far am I off on that?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
No, You're very close. I think.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
The only part that I would add to this is
to understand that the three D is not actual physicality,
and the five D is also the equality of here.
So in other words, you are still physical. You still
can do things. You still can hug and kiss, you
still can run around, you can do all these different things.
The only difference is that here we believe that basically
the field or the universe is a against us.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
There, you already know.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
That it's working for you, so it changes you get
to live the life basically you wanted to live if
fear and doubt wouldn't have kept you back.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Interesting, you know, I said that to somebody today. He's
this person came to give a quote about a job
and we were talking. He said something about his fiance
and I said something about his wedding, and he said
that his girlfriend or fiance was calling him and saying,
you know, freaking out about something, how something wasn't working out.
(16:30):
And I said, actually, if you think about it the
opposite way. If you think that we don't know everything,
so what we don't know, the universe does. And sometimes
I like to say the universe helps us, I mean
hurts us to help us. We think it's we're being hurt,
but we're being guided in the right direction and we
just start seeing more of that negative. Is that what
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you're saying?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yes, yes, very much.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
So okay, okay, I get this.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
You talk a lot about a unified pressure feel what
is that. I've been curious about that for a while.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yes, so the unipride pressure field is basically the field
that is all around us that we can't see, that
physics and science is trying to understand and the reason. Yes, yeah,
but when I talk about in actual pressure field. Imagine
it like a slope, Imagine it like a hill in essence,
so the very bottom of the hill is going to
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have the most density, the very top is going to
be the least amount, it's going to be lighter. And
so the reason this is so important is because currently,
right now with physics, we focus on gravity, which means
that something is being pulled towards something. In the unified
pressure field, it's actually saying that it's being pushed.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
And the reason that's.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Important even in spirituality, is because if you believe that
things can be pulled, then you believe that things are
happening to you, not your happening to the world. And
so when you reverse this understanding, all of a sudden,
it starts to make sense that everything around you is conscious, aware,
and including the field. And so it's this invisible field
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and soon we will be able to see it. Soon
we will be able to do the math behind it
to actually verify. But basically it is the field in
terms of how everything works. And to give you a
little little tip on it, it vibrates at four hundred
and thirty two hertz. So this is important because when
you look at the speed of light in NASA, they'll
say it's one hundred and eighty six two hundred and
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eighty two miles per second. Well, the actual speed of
light is one hundred and eighty six thousand, six hundred
and twenty four, which is four thirty two squared. So
it all very much connects. If you get into the
Egyptian Egyptian Book of the Dead, it talks about four
thirty two is the frequency they tune to. If you
look at Bach and Beethoven, they actually tune their instruments
to four hundred and thirty two A. So it's been
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all throughout history.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I listened to that at night.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I did listen to four. I was like, wait a minute,
that's one of my hurts for thirty two eight eighty eight.
And there's two others. I can't think about it at
the moment, but there are several hurts that I listened
to at night, and this one feels like I feel,
I don't know, more in tune more.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Aligned, Yes, you'll feel more connected because that's exactly what
it's vibrating at.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
So you're just meeting that resonance.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I love that one of our guests, people asked real quick.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, sounds like some people in our chat are fascinated
with something they are experience, Like Mickey is fascinated about
the door.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, can you talk about the doors and the light again?
Was there just one door?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah? How long were you in the in between state
before you came back, like when the paramedics came. How
long were was that?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
So I had lived out in North Carolina, so I
lived quite a bit out So it was roughly anywhere
between thirty and forty minutes this whole experience, although in
all honesty, it felt a lot longer as I was
saying through.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It actually dead at that time in the physical world.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yes, this is the whole time. I'm seeing my actual body,
so I can see it. It is laying on the ground,
and yet I am walking around, and so in that state,
I was there probably about thirty to forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's how do you think this changed the way you
see life and death now?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Drastically in every single way. I am not afraid of death.
I am not worried even a little bit about death.
I'm not worried about even the moment of death. I
think that There's something that people should know, which is
that when it is your final moment, you actually do
not experience pain. So your body will react just like
a knee jerk reaction, but you do not feel any pain.
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In fact, the only reason you will ever feel pain
in an NDE or even any situation that is traumatic
is when you are actually coming back. That's then when
it kicks your body in and says, hey, now you
need to feel this pain because you are actually here
in the three D. But the moment that you're going
to transition, there is zero pain whatsoever, no matter the situation.
So that is drastically changing.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
What about leading up to that moment?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Leading up to that moment there is so up until
the point that the decision is made, there absolutely can
be pain because once the decision is made, then at
that point there's no turning back. But up until that point,
just like anything in life, you can definitely feel pain.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So is there safe to say there really is? Like
letting go?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
There is? Yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When you a lot of people who do a near
death experience say that a lot of their loved ones
are greeting them or coming to them or being there
for them, you know, during that time. Is that something
you experienced or did you get any download about what
that is about?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
So I didn't actually experience a guide other than that
voice that was kind of walking me through this, and
that was enough for me.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Some people ask me, was that God?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Was that Jesus? I don't know the answer to that.
I just know that it was something that I resonated
with at that level to trust enough to understand what
was going on.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But it was my dog. Actually, I had no friends.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Being a gorophobic, you don't really go out in the world,
so I didn't have any friends, or I didn't really
have any family members or anything like that that showed
up in that. It was really just me and my
dog and the voice that was guiding me.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Wow, I find it really interesting what you said about
instant compassion.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That was fascinating. Yes, I imagine all resentments, regrets just gone.
Is that that accurate?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Yes, this is something that I talk about because I
think that the church and religion got very close to it,
but then kind of skewed a different way. Compassion is
a burning, So when they talk about hell burning, I
think this is what they were talking about. Compassion is
a burning. It burns away the illusions, it burns away
the separation, it burns away the fear. But it's not
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something you physically feel. It's kind of the same thing
like when you listen to music and it can really
hit you, but it doesn't physical hurt you.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It's kind of the exact same thing.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
And all that people need is just a little bit
of clarity and a large amount of compassion, and they
would understand everything that they did in life, no matter
the situation.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So I grew up in a really bad place bad situations, okay,
and I had some really horrific things done to me,
and that person is now deceased, okay, And I've been
trying to learn how to grow within myself to forgive
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and let go, and I've never really been able to
do it until fairly recently. I heard something that said
that when our souls go through that doorway to the
light that you're talking about, to the positive side, that
that person is no longer the things that are attached
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to him or her that they were doing that were
the negative, terrible things. Here, their soul is pure again
when they get to that other side and they are
no longer that thing or way that they were when
they were here, and it allowed me to go, you
know what, that is just something that happened. Isn't who
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I am, It isn't who they are, and it just
is what it is. And I've been able to come
to terms with it, and I think let go a
lot more than I've ever have in my life. What
are your thoughts on that, about that whole concept of
people being different when they get to that positive other side.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, that is absolutely spot on to a t, because
when you go through the four D, it's not just
you that goes through it, right, when everybody goes through
that four D, that neutral transition. The only way you
even get to the other side is to clear that
soul like you're talking about, to clear that signal, to
get rid of all the distortions. You see why a
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father did something, why your mother did something, and you
have that understanding the same way that when we watched
you know, TV shows and we get to see the
life of the villain and we go, oh, that's why
they turned out that way.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And so yes, when you.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Come out on the other side, there is no more
of that fractal brokenness. There is just the completeness and
there is a reason that you chose that bond in
the first place. Right, the world is the thing that
twisted it up untwisted, and you have that person that
was always there underneath.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Wow, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I had been I had read something a long time ago,
many Lives Mini Masters, I think is what it's called,
and it said something about how we chose the life
we live. And for years and years I was angry
about that because I thought, how the fuck could I
have chosen this goddamn wretched life that I live? And
(25:53):
then I thought, you know what, it's there's a reason,
and I am who I am, and the life that
I am living now is the reasons for all of that.
So I can I think I can grasp that. I
think it's harder for people too, but I think people
can if they try.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
Light always illuminates the most in darkness. Right as you
ask yourself who am I and you don't have an answer?
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Am I?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Love?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
And my kindness? You've got to go to a place
that is actually going to allow that. And I think
that Neil Donald Walsh did a really, really good job
in his book Conversations with God when he basically says
you're a candle standing in front of the sun and
you're asking yourself, am I bright? You're never going to
know the answer to that until you officially back away
from the sun. So the more you back away, the
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more brighter you realize you truly are.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So tell me what do you think? Or tell us
how do how can we understand grief and healing and
how it shows up because I know a lot of
people are listening today because of grief.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Right, So, grief is a very powerful energy. Grief and
guilt will kill you. Those are the two g's that
will absolutely take you down. And so when we come here,
the most important thing here is bonds.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Bonds will keep you alive.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
When you bond with someone, it's actually you putting in
a portion of your energy, they put in a portion
of their energy. There's a whole mathematical equation of vortex
math which ends up generating a vesica pisces, which is
two circles overlapping, and in that center space is where
you create. So when you find people that do not
have connections, like I was living, you're basically dying in essence.
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You're using your own energy to self sustain an illusion
of life. So when we are grieving, and grief is
actually a gift in the understanding that it's the ability
to say goodbye to the illusion you're holding on to,
because ultimately there is never a goodbye. And so when
someone is going through grief, it is because of the
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fact that the energy that the other person put into
that bond returned to them, and then the energy that
you put into that bond.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Is now returning to you.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Any point in time that you feel energy coming your way,
if you don't know what it is, it hurts. That's
why heartache hurts. That's why breaking up with people hurts.
It's because that energy that you put in is coming
back to you. So you have two choices with grief.
You can accept it or you can reject it. If
you accept it, it actually ends up becoming a gift,
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and many people have written books and stories about how
going through that process is changed their life or changed
other people's lives. If you reject it, it becomes a haunting.
It is something then that literally follows you around. It's
why if you watch horror stories, you'll always find grief
or guilt right right at the core, because that's exactly
what allows that to exist. But if you follow it
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and you trust it, and you allow it to basically
become part of you, you take that energy, you understand
and you realize you will have that reuniting, it amplifies
and becomes something that changes your life drastically.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let's stick with the death thing for a couple more minutes,
because I think that there's a big misunderstanding that people
have about death. What do you think that you could
tell us that could help us understand this better.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
So I'm sure that you hear a lot of people
that will say death doesn't exist. But the reality is
we live in a dualistic world, right, There is no
hot without cold. If all that exists was hot, we
wouldn't label it anything different. Therefore we wouldn't label it hot.
Therefore it wouldn't exist. So life and death go hand
in hand with each other. It's the thing that allows
you to compare. Right, you choose to live your life
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the best way that you can because of the fact
that you're afraid of death. But it's very much an illusion,
the same way that hot and cold is caught. Hot
is literally just a different version of cold, and cold
is just a different version of hot, and both of
them belong to temperature, so it's the same thing you
belong to the field. Your soul exists beyond all the
choices and all the things that you've done. So death
(29:58):
is basically the moment that that your personal field collapses,
and now you are free, because as long as the
field exists, you exist in the field. Once the field collapses,
just like a star collapses, it has a choice to
go super nova and explode and give or it has
a choice to close in and become a black hole,
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which then just allows another life.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Black holes are literally we're inside of a giant black
hole in essence, because that's how we even exist. So
it's kind of the exact same thing. You have a
choice to go in and then therefore you would become
an essence, a black hole, and that means that you
would then just move on to the next life. Or
you have a choice to go super nova, which allows
you to move on to the five D. Everything is
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about choice. But in that moment of the four D,
I can honestly tell you probably ninety nine percent of
people don't choose to come back to this life because
they then understand that the five D gives them everything
they truly actually wanted gotcha.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
So what advice would you give someone who's grieving.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Oh, I've given lots of advice to people that are grieving.
So first and foremost, no one has ever gone. So
when you are no longer compressed by the field, you
are then part of the field. And if you're part
of the field, then for instance, listening to your favorite
song of somebody, or watching their favorite show, or writing
something down, they have the ability to interact with you.
(31:22):
Most people who are grieving are dealing with fear, and
fear will block that very gentle, very loving signal of
I'm here, I'm here with you. And that's why a
lot of people will feel their animals long before they'll
feel somebody who actually passed away. It's because of the
fact that they move through grief quicker and so therefore
than the animal then can send the signals to let
you know I'm still here, because no one ever goes away.
(31:46):
And so when I talk to parents who have lost children,
I tell them whyat your breathing, why it' your mind?
Because your child is very much speaking to you. They
have the awareness, the understanding that you do not have,
and therefore they want to guide you. They want to
be there for you until that moment that you then
transition and that reuniting happens.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You know, I've been saying for a while since my well.
I suffered for a very decades after my grandmother passed.
But after my mom passed, I got kind of a
I started manifesting, I started meditating, and I started dimensional traveling.
So I want to ask you about that too. But
(32:28):
I realized that I got an I got my own download.
That was I was told that I am more. They
are more with me now because they're in within everything
than when they were alive. Like when they were alive,
they were only with me when I called them or
I go in to go see them. But now that
(32:49):
they're gone, I was told they're with me more than ever.
So I resonate with that that that really hits me.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yes, they are never gone.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I love that like so much. Ruth Rhodes says, it's
definitely different when you have a near death experience and
are looking at your deceased body. I pleaded not to
come back. I resonated with what he was describing. I'm
I can't even imagine what it would be like to
have a near death experience in being so overwhelmed with
(33:21):
like what you're talking about, and knowing that you could
move on, but then not being able to and being
pulled back into this life. I can't imagine how you
would keep going forward. Has it helped you? Has it
helped you get past your gooraphobia? Are you living a
different life now?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Oh, night and day? Absolutely it's helped me. When I
started writing in these journals and writing this information down,
I started applying it to my life. So I had
actually figured out how to manifest, and I teach it
every single day. It's thirty six days, that's all that
it takes. And you can manifest anything in your life.
(33:58):
And I'm not saying you know you have to pick
and choose certain things. I am saying absolutely anything I
have fully healthy, functioning kidneys that do hospital could not
explain has no answer to. I am not a gloraphobic.
I actually proposed to my fiance at Disneyland amongst forty
five thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Amazing.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Yeah, everything about my life. I no longer live where
I used to live, not paycheck to paycheck. I lived
a paycheck behind. I now live and flow. I am
financially doing well. I spend my days just teaching people,
guiding people. I love life immensely and it all changed
from that experience, and so I followed the thirty six days.
(34:40):
I followed the steps that I was shown, and it
just kept revealing more and more, to the point that
now I teach it every day.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I love that people in the back talk. You know,
people who watch through Facebook or any of the lives
can see some of the comments. But Lynn says, yes,
I felt the same after my father passed, and he
is with me all the time. That can't happen when
they're with you here on earth. And then Lynn also
(35:11):
said Devin is an amazing kind wise beyond his year's soul.
A blessing to the answers we ask, I love that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I have a question. Yeah, I'm curious if there's something
that you developed a sense of humor about that you
never see that you know, all the funny things that
human beings do that you realize that is just ridiculous,
Like why do you believe that? I'm very curious about that,
But I know I of my discoveries spiritual growth.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Humans are are absolutely fascinating. We are the only species
in nature that basically perceives our understanding from inside out.
So all of nature, animals, everything, they look at the
outside and bring it in. We're the ones who look
inside and then project it out. So after this experience,
(36:02):
especially when I'm talking to people about like how any
of those things and they're just talking about what was
written in the book and I had this experience, I
have this confidence. I'm not an unkind person and I
will never tell someone they're wrong. That's not my place
to do that. But there are a lot of things
that I see. There's a lot of things that are
going on in politics right now, and it's all just
(36:23):
a game. It's a chess game, right and it's not
one side is better than the other. It's who can
play the best move at that time. So we move
back and forth from Democrat to Republican all the time
throughout history, because that's truly what it's really about. There
are many things that are going on in this world
that I have to look back and go, it's only
(36:43):
being played here and that is all that truly matters,
you know, in that understanding and to understand that the
kind of ripples that like you guys are doing will
change things when people start understanding that we actually do
live in a push gravity, not a poll. You happen
to this world, you change things, even something like anybody
(37:04):
who's ever seen interstellar, they try to explain to all
the math that the closer that you get to the Sun, right,
the slower that time gets because of a pole. Well,
it's actually a push. The closer that you get to
the Sun. The Sun actually has the most amount of patterns.
The Sun actually uses fusion every single day, and we
can't even figure out fusion. So it has all this
(37:25):
pattern and all this memory. And the more memory and
pattern that something has, the more mass it has. The
more mass it has, the more it creates a more
dense slope. So if you're at the bottom of that slope,
in other words, if you're coming up to the Sun,
time will literally slow down.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
And that's what time dilation is. It's not a pole,
it's a push.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Love that.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
So for you personally, do you feel like you are
still in this three D experience at the same time
have access to the four.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
D or the five D?
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I very much feel like I walk a bridge. It's
really easy for me to meditate, really easy for me
to astra project very easy for me to receive downloads
on new information. Someone will tell me about something and
sudden they I'll just go into a meditation and then
I have all the information to basically make it a
complete kind of thought. But I definitely also except that
(38:17):
I live here. I love my relationship, my life, I
love helping people.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I love that you had talked about manifesting and I
am the biggest proponent for manifesting. I talk about it
all the time to everybody. What is manifesting? And really
is it something we do or is it something we
tune into.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
So manifesting is basically to become the frequency of the
thing that you want. So there are many books that
are out there, The Secret, the Law of One. They're
all trying to teach these type of things, but they
kind of leave you without a foundation to stand on. Yeah,
so there is a very key way to do this,
and it follows Nikola Tesla's three nine. If you remember
(39:01):
that quote, if you only knew the magnificence of three
six and nine, you would have a key to the universe.
And it's because of the fact that it takes thirty
six days to manifest. So currently, right now we live
on a timeline that believes that we have three hundred
and sixty five days a year, and that is based
off of the understanding of the sun. But if you
have an internal understanding of time, if you have an
(39:23):
internal understanding of a clock, it's actually four hundred and
thirty two days. So that goes back to that four
thirty two I was talking about. So if we had
four hundred and thirty two days a year, we would
have twelve months of thirty six days, twelve different times
to be able to manifest something in your life.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Okay, so it.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Starts like this. Day one, you start manifestation. You announce
to the field, the unified pressure field, what you want.
Day three you add a frequency, a thought, you write
something down, you speak something out loud. Day six you
add a vibration. You actually do something. So for instance,
if you want to lose weight, you walk around your
house five times. Whatever it happens to be, it doesn't matter.
(40:04):
Day nine then is going to be the amplification of
day three and six. So you just do the same
thing you did on day three and six and then
add something, add something extra to that. So at that
point in time, you have officially created loops. Okay, So
then you repeat it. You repeat it because of the
fact that any cycle needs two it's not a cycle
(40:25):
if it only has one. It needs to be verifiable
by two things. So you repeat the exact same steps
that will take you to eighteen days.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
At the eighteenth day, the field is now observing your pattern.
You created the pattern, you showed that the cycle exists,
and now the field, like I said, that is conscious
and aware, is now observing you. So you do the
exact same thing you did for the first eighteen days.
It will lock in a combination of six loops in essence,
(40:55):
and it'll create the atom, which is exactly what an
atom looks like. If you go look at that old school,
it's got those six sloops. It's got three of them.
And then of course each side is a loop that
locks in light. Light with pressure becomes manifestation. And so
it takes thirty six days for you to manifest.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Wow, that's amazing. So you are teaching this as well.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yes, however, I actually just wrote a book on this.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Wow. Okay, I'm going to learn a lot from you, Devin.
I do have like a question about something, so I
think I've traveled. No, I've traveled interdimensionally, okay. And when
I was manifesting and meditating, I experienced my mom and
(41:41):
my grandmother coming to me, and they took me to
a place, whether it's a timeline or a dimension, where
I had what I've been manifesting, what I've been wanting
in my life. They showed me a place and time
where I have the things I want, so that I
could feel the feelings of what it feels like to
(42:04):
be there, to know that it was real that I'm
going there, and now I work towards that is do
you think that that was a possibility of it being
my imagination or do I or was it something really
that could have happened.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
I absolutely believe that's something that happened.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
The only thing I'll add to it is what it
was showing you was exactly what I'm talking about. So
when you go through that eighteen days and you only
focus on the three, the six, and the nine, then
basically you start becoming the new frequency that will be you.
So you start this as a frequency and each three, six,
and nine days, so in other words, it'd be three, six, nine, twelve, fifteen,
(42:43):
and eighteen each one of those changes your frequency, and
so as you're changing through this process, you then come out,
in essence a new frequency by the end of the
thirty six days, and that frequency aligns with exactly what
it was that you wanted. It already exists, you're just
not living it.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'm seeing that, I feel that, I see that one
hundred percent. What about what's the difference between you think
are dimensions and timelines?
Speaker 7 (43:09):
So dimension and timelines are a little bit different in
so dimensions basically are measurement to divide. Is what that
means in essence the division of time and essence. So
when you're dealing with dimensions, we have thirteen dimensions. This
is actually found when you study Metatron's cube. You take
thirteen circles, you draw a line to each and every circle,
(43:30):
you'll actually create Metatron's cube, and you also create all
five potonic solids naturally within it, just by drawing lines.
So there are thirteen dimensions that you can actually be
a part of in essence and have a perspective inside
of that. In terms of timelines, the reality of timelines
is the understanding that every single time that you change
(43:53):
a frequency in your life, you move to another timeline.
And so this is something I talk about on Matrix Mysteries.
When someone puts down a cup in the beginning of
their day and then they go into their room and
they do something and no one else is in that house.
But let's say that they meditate or they listen to
music that really lifts their spirit, or whatever it happens
to be, and they come back out and their cup
is gone. They literally move to another timeline. It's not
(44:14):
the fact that it's glitching or breaking or anything. It's
that we are constantly moving through timelines. And the more
awareness we have of this, the more we're going to
see these I have.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Been feeling that it was like that for a long time,
and I kept telling myself, I must be going crazy.
There's no reason. Thank you so much for that moment
just now, because a lot of things just really click
in my head. I literally said to somebody the other
day that I thought that something was missing because I
no longer am in the same time in space as it.
(44:45):
That it just I didn't misplace it. I'm in a
different place exactly. Yes, it's the same with the Mandela effect.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
The people that actually, if you notice, we call them
awake right, regardless of where they are in their life,
will say, oh, you're more. What they're really saying is
you're on a different timeline, and if you're on a
different timeline, things actually change. Now, the easiest things to
actually change are going to be virtual things. Why because
your mind isn't set that that's physical, that's real. So
(45:13):
it's easy to change virtual things. It's easy to change
movie titles or quotes and movies and things like that,
but it very much affects our real life. And that's
why I started Matrix Mysteries. I wanted people to share
their stories of all the small moments that most people
would say, that's just in your head, but in reality,
it was enough to write your story and it stuck
with you.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I love the Facebook group like I love it. It
is so great.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
You should go and search that out and join that group.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I'm in it.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
It's amazing, Devin I there are so many things that
people want to know about and so many questions. By
the way, anybody who has questions for Devin, if you
want to email them into us, send them to fifty
Shades of Bullshit at gmail dot com. You have to
spell out fifty fifty and you have to put a
(46:07):
y instead of eye for bullshit. But send us your
questions and Devin, I gotta have you back. Are you
coming back with us? Because this absolutely way too fast.
I will get you scheduled asap because I really feel
that there's so many questions that people have that we
didn't even come close to touching today.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, I would love to come back.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
That would be amazing. And how can I and others
bind you to be able to do this manifesting with
to learn more about this?
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Yes, So you can go on to Facebook and you
can search nine vibes Universal.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I actually teach daily.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
I'll have a post that is somehow teaching about the
unified pressure field, Fibonacci sequence, golden ratio, vortex math, whatever
it happens to be that's in the flow at that
point in time. You can also go to my website
which is www dot nine vibes Universal dot com. That's
a nine at the front. Everything is about three, six
and nines in my life. And you can also email
(47:12):
me directly. I get a lot of emails from people,
and that is also nine vibes Universal at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
What's crazy is that my entire world is about three
six and nine.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
That's awesome, that's.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Great, that's crazy, it really it really is. Sorry, I'm
feeling like super moved this moeting. I'm really real that
you could be here today, Devin. You're an incredible person,
and I'm so so grateful that this world gets to
have you back for a little bit at least, and
(47:46):
that we get to learn from you. I'm very very
grateful that you are here.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
So thank you. Thank you very much for having me. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I uh, I know we have some dates. It led
up part of July. If I could get I'll get
together with you, Devin, and we'll get you booked.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Okay, okay, sounds great.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Thank you for being here today. I feel like we
only touched a tiny, tiny sliver of what you could
bless us with. But thank you everyone who came and
participated today. Your questions and your your your feedback in
the back end of comments is awesome. We love that
(48:27):
so much. Thank you everyone for being here again today.
Thank you, Steve, You're the best. I love you, and
we're going to be here, same time, same place next week.
Next week is how to be safe online, and until then,
hold on to second Devin, I'll talk to you after
the show, and until then, let's just keep this shit real.
Speaker 8 (48:48):
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Speaker 4 (49:02):
Thanks so much
Speaker 3 (49:03):
For listening, and we really hope to see you again
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