Shawn Richardson is living her best life and turning her passion into a career.

Shawn Richardson went through a bumpy road a few years ago and was left with, where do I go from here? The mountains came calling and she has now turned her passion into a career while reaping the benefits of being in the outdoors and helping to solve various mental health issues. You never know when failures can turn into opportunities. Go Shawn go...

Episode Transcript

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Hey, everybody's Mark Pattison and backagain with another great episode of Finding Your
Summit, all about people overcoming diversityand finding their way. Before I get
into my rockstar guests in a moment, I want to direct to my website
www dot Mark Pattison, NFL dotcom. There's a lot, a lot
of great stuff going on there.I've got over two hundred and sixty five

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all need to be inspired, evenmyself. You can also find Searching for
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There's a little button you can followthat link all the way through and
watch it. It's pretty amazing whatthey were able to pull off. And

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finally, we continue to raise moneyfor Higher Ground via or campaign amilias Everest.
My daughter Amelia has epileps See myguest today has actually worked a little
bit with my daughter, so sheknows her well. And anyways, it's
all about empowerment of other people,and that's what the world is all about,
trying to help others, especially duringthese these holidays that we're experiencing right

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now. Okay. On that note, let's get into today's amazing, really
amazing, actually incredible guests. SeanRichardson, Sean, how you doing,
Hey, Mark, I'm great.Thanks, yeah, thanks for joining me.
Okay, So you were on mypodcast like one hundred episodes ago,
and you know, we keep marchingdown the trail here with these podcast episodes

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that we do, and and youknow, we talked a lot about your
life, about the terminal that you'vegone through the show, of course,
finding your summit, overcoming diversity,and finding your way. And I think
you found your way. And atthe time, I'll just touch on this
for a brief moment, but youknow, you were kind of coming out
of just a crazy ask divorce andthere were a lot of drama associated with

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that, and I think, youknow, when I think about you at
that moment in time, you werereally in that phase of finding your next
summit, like what you were goingto do. And you know, I've
been following you now for the pastsix plus months as you were trekking all
over Europe, and I want todive back into a little bit and kind

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of post that conversation that we hadand what was going through your brain.
On how you were going to likereset yourself and move forward. Well,
so all my reset happens in natureand hiking, and that is probably something
you can relate to and actually probablylots of your listeners. So I just

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was experiencing that every time that Iwould be in nature, hiking particularly,
it would just become clearer to mewhat was next my life, what I
wanted to do. I just becamemore connected to me, if that makes
any sense. So it wasn't thatI sat down and I developed a strategic

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plan for my life. It justunfolded as I continued to hike, which
I absolutely love to do and doa lot of and so and then about
gosh, about a year and ahalf ago, I was doing a very
interesting well, I had a veryinteresting experience with psychedelic therapy. I did

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a couple of sessions, which wasa very unusual move on my part,
but really needed to clear some trauma. So it was very successful. And
before you go there, what doesthat word mean? Psychedelic therapy? So
there are some really fantastic clinical trialsgoing on for PTSD that use MDMA,

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which is another word for extasy,and it's a psychedelic So very interesting work,
incredibly powerful data on actually curing PTSD. So I tried to get into
a trial and I wasn't accepted becauseI didn't have the right kind of trauma
they were looking for trauma that wasthat was from one episode, one event,

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and mine was cumulative. But it'sreally PTSD is really horrible. I
don't know if you've ever experienced anyof it. I think maybe once you
maybe referenced it. But anyway,just to keep it to my focused on
myself, I pursued some of thetherapy outside of a trial and found it.

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I was terrified, frankly because I'venever done a drug in my life,
but fantastic and it worked. Myfirst session, the trauma was cleared,
the PTSD was cured, and thena typical protocol and a trial has
three sessions, so I pursued threesessions. I wanted to mimic the trial
in my second session. Now we'regetting back to where I was going with

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this. I received download from theuniverse, as I describe it, that
said, you know you, there'sa business here for you, and it
was very descriptive, the name ofthe company, the logo, the mission,
the first products. I'm supposed tosell the first people I'm supposed to

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call. It was very it wasincredible. I wasn't planning to do that
in my life. I was planningto hike pretty much forever. But I
thought about it for a few daysand I said, well, if I
don't do that, I'm always goingto wonder what if. And so as
I continued hiking over the following months, it just became really clear to me

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what this was all about. Andin fact, that website went live today,
so my company actually launched today andit's about hiking. So the last
five months when I was out hiking, I worked a lot in my mind
on what that, you know,the clarity around the business and my personal

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life, and looking for trials totake you know, other people on.
So it was a really fantastic explorationI found. I had fantastical the hikes
were fantastic, and I found somereally beautiful trials appropriate for first time through
hikers. So very successful. Okay, so let's break this down. Yeah,
let's break this down. So thePTSD was related and we don't have

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to get into this too much,but it was just related to your your
marriage. I think it was probablythat would be the sort of the hair
that broke the camel's back. Andinteresting, I felt my first symptoms kind
of after our last asset was sold, and so really the divorce was quite
long and it was complete, andthen I started having these um these symptoms

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which I really didn't know. Ididn't know what was going on, and
then I was told, well,these are symptoms of PTSD, and it's
just like a biological hijacking. There'sa trigger, an email that you get
or a communication from someone that justthat triggered me, and my drein adrenaline
would fly and I was completely distracted. And you know, I would not

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describe me as an anxious person atall, but I would feel very anxious
and get clammy and I couldn't getinto a productive place in those hours after
being triggered, and I intellectually Icouldn't talk myself out of it. I
mean, it was literally the bestway to describe it for me, was

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just a biological hijacking for some hours. And it's horrible because you can't,
you know, really do anything aboutit. So you know, the standard
of care for that is talk therapyand sometimes pharmaceuticals, and thirty percent of
the people that pursue that. Thedata, the data I looked at anyway,

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percent of the people that pursue thatwill experience some improvement. And then
with the psychedelic therapy and the trialsthat I read, seventy percent we're experiencing
cure. So that's very powerful data. And they're entering, they're completing i
think phase two trials, so they'revery far along with the testing of this,

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and it's it's certainly what I experiencedanyway. Yeah, you know when
you reference PTSD to me, thattakes me back to Everest. We're almost
now going into twenty twenty three atthe time I did it in May of
twenty twenty one, and because Icame so close to not coming back from
Mount Everest, every single time Iwould talk about that, like in the

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six months to year or after comingoff in in late May, I would
just break down and start crying.Right. I just couldn't get from a
sentence. And so it was thatsame thing, was that trigger that just
like and I have to reset andlike, Okay, we got this,
and so I'm not like that anymore. But it took me quite some time
to like get over that and andthat was that was a hard thing to

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realize my mortality. And so likeI'm understanding what you're saying when there was
like a an event that happens inyour case like an email or phone calle
or something like that in my casetalking about it and that triggers some biological
thing that just more or less paralyzesyou in some kind of way. So
I get that. Yep, Okay, So so now you're you're we're going

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to get into this whole hiking thanbecause I think this is what really well
Number one, I think this isthat the main reason why you and I
have been attracted to each other fromafar M meaning Facebook friends, and we
both have a love for the mountainsand we've both found healing through climbing and
hiking and experiencing nature and things likethat. In terms of the business,

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you mentioned there's a website. Well, we'll ask more about that the website
that we can link that in thein the show notes today. But what
is that business that you have comeup with. So it's called one Walk
Dot World, and we are acompany that supports the hiking journey Soul to
Soul, Sol to Soul, andI think one Walk is the only guiding

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company that acknowledges the inner experience aswell as the physical experience that people have
out in nature. So, youknow, I've been on so many guided
trips, and I follow so manyoutdoor athletes, and there's a great deal
of sharing, particular social media aboutthe physical accomplishments, and they're awesome,
and that is a thrilling part ofyou know, being an outdoor athlete reaching

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the summit and the physical challenge ofgetting there, or the physical challenge of
completing a five hundred mile hike orwhatever it is you've done, and sometimes
people can't complete them because there's someyou know, impass for them on the
physical level. But at the sametime, there's a fantastic journey going on

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around this clarity and the whole youknow, emotional, soul nourishing response that
we have when we're in nature.People don't talk about that so much.
I find that to be the richestpart of my experience when I'm at hiking,
and so I just want to putthat on the table and offer that

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to people. It happens, andso I think people don't know often what
to do with that. It's it'salmost always a fantastic experience is never a
treacherous one, but a lot canbe revealed, you know, when you're
in nature, and people don't reallyknow what to do with that. So
we work with that and we talkabout it, and we meet people where

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they are. If it's a gentlesort of if they're new to this while
i'll call it a spiritual perspective,we meet them where they are, or
perhaps are quite advanced, but it'sus we do that as well. Yeah,
okay, so so let me justbreak it down into layman's terms here.
So if I understand this right,you are you have more or less

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started an adventure travel company which you'regoing to be taking x amount of people
to these forming lands, small groups, and there's going to be a goal,
and there's gonna be a destination,and there's going to be a starting
point, and there's going to bean endpoint and hopefully along the way a
lot of things of what you've learned, um, they're going to be They're
gonna find healing or peace or claritylike you said on whatever there or fund.

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Yeah, it's all that. AndI've trust me when I say this,
I'm speaking your language right now becauseall the all the above. I
check all the boxes of you know, challenging, hard, excruciating, fund
um, you know, more clearon my thoughts going forward, my path,
all that kind of stuff, andI continue to do that. So

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okay, So the reason why Iwanted to have you on today's pod,
and I think what we need todo in the in the beginning here is
just set all this up right.And what happened is as you were building
this clarity and maybe you were thinkingabout this before you and another strapping young
fellow, it appeared. Um,I'm not sure who he is in your
life, but I would assume thathe's somebody wonderful. But you guys went

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off to Europe and and you justI mean, it was constant. I
never knew the beginning. I neverknew the end. I never actually knew
it, knew it even the middle. I just knew that you're posting constantly,
and you're constantly um, coming backout and and hiking. So,
um, where did you start thiswhole journey? So actually that's my partner

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Andy, and we actually met hiking. And by the way, your camera
is off if you know, oh, let me put it back on.
Yep. Um, Okay, goahead, okay. Um. So I
met Andy hiking actually the Camino deSantiago three years ago in Spain, and

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we were became friends, and youmeet people from all over the world.
It's a fantastic five hundred mile hike. Yeah, would tell me where you
starting, where you finish that youstart typically if you're gonna hike the whole
thing, and you're hiking the FrenchWay, which is sort of the iconic
uh Comuno to Santiago. There areactually seven of them in Spain, but
this is the one everybody really refersto. You start in France just on

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the border, and you in SaintJean Pierre de Pourt, and you hike
all the way to Santiago. Allof the communo's end in Santiago. So
that's about a five hundred mile journey. People from all over the world come
and do it. That was actuallyI was doing mostly mountain climbing like you
do. Before that, I'd spenti don't know, maybe seven years mostly

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subbiting mountains, and that was reallyone of the first through hikes that summer.
I did the hike the Tour demoblog, and I then straight to Spain
and hike the Camino and I wasreally a change for me. I loved
it and since then I've mostly beendoing through hiking and I so anyway,
that's where Andy and I met.We so our friendship grew and over the

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years that friendship grew into more thana friendship. And we we live in
different countries, so we meet indifferent places to hike together. So I
guess it was this was so nowwe're at a point before I had the
realization that I was going to startone walk this journey, but we were

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hiking in Spain. I guess itwas a year and a half ago.
And I get so much feedback whenI share with my friends on my Facebook
page, you know what I'm doing. Lots of questions or statements like I
really want to do that, butdott, you know, there's always something
And this is typically a demographic thatis like me, you know, an

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empty master fifties maybe even early sixties, and they have time and freedom and
they're very interested. But so Ijust remember turning to Andy when we're in
Spain and saying, you know whatwe offered. What if I offered a
hike? What if I just offeredto take some people on a through hike,
just to familiarize them with the process. The goal is to create an

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independent through hiker who would be comfortableand competent in planning their own future hikes.
So I did offer that and thetrip was filled and we guided that
in June, and that was weguided a hike in England, a fantastic
hike for a first time through hiker, the cost bad Way, which is

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an eight day essentially a hundred milehike. And our hikes we stay at
hotels at night and typically transfer ourluggage, so it's it's their tailored for
first time hikers. So and thenthat led to so that all happened around
the same time that this journey thatI referred to happen. So I spent

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the rest of the summer in thefall the following five months exploring different trails
all over Europe, in Romania,Slovenia, Scotland, Ireland, England,
Spain, Portugal. And they wereall fantastic, some of them. So

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all this is really your research anddevelopment, right yeah, and fun and
it's I mean, where's the linebetween the research and development and the fun?
So yes, they were all hikesI wanted to do personally. Andy
went with me on all of them, which was fun, and we had
a chance to spend more than threemonths together because that we're always limited to
this three months because of visa issues. And then but it became clear,

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that's pretty clear, like on daytwo, which trails would be appropriate to
share with other first time hikers,so identify I'd have about five trips in
twenty twenty three that I'll be offeringand and more to come. I'm excited
to go explore Japan and New Zealandand Tasmania's uh so next offerings. But

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yeah, it's all unfolding. It'sreally fantastic. I mean, it's really
amazing to be fifty eight and atthis place where there really is no to
be, you know, developing abusiness and a job where you don't need
to take a vacation from it.You know, it's all yeah, it's
all the same. Now. It'sgreat, it's wonderful. And look what

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we all stripe or is follow yourpassions and those passions can sometimes turn into
business sometimes and you know you're you'realso enter in a phase where we all
want to be. We're roughly atthe same age and we're you know,
we all want to be living ourbest life and we all want to have
challenges, and you know that,you know, with these challenges, you're
going to go on these these differentrips that you are on the verge of

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launching here um and and there's gonnabe challenges along the way. Something's not
going to go right and you gotto deal with that. Somebody is you
know, not everybody's perfect, becauseyou know, there's different personalities and trying
to make those things blend and tryingto work with those folks, and it's
gonna make you grow, it's gonnastretch you, it's gonna hopefully, I'm
assuming this your ry Um friend isgoing to be along, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, you haven't.You haven't identified beyond just he's a good
friend. Yea, yeah. Butbut the bottom line is that you've got
support and you know, all logisticsand that's like I said, you know,
research and development of going out andfinding and doing something really cool.
I think it's I think it's importantto actually have hiked the trail that's take
others on, because when I hiked, you know, when we offered the

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cots Goold Way for the first onelast summer. People ask me, you
know, have you done it?And it's an important question if you're thinking
about doing a hike, it's importantto ask your guide if they've actually done
it. Okay, so what sowhat is the what is the first client
that you're doing the hike? Well, I already did that hike was the
Cotswold Way in England and you hikeone hundred miles through the Cotswolds. It's

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you know, from Bath to ChippingCandom. It was wonderful hike. We're
going to offer that again. ButI am most excited about um. Well,
there's a variety and there are fourdifferent hikes that I'll be offering.
One is in Portugal. It's themost beautiful coastal hike in the world.
It's very dramatic, bluffy, big, boisterous waves. I mean, it's

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spectacular. I couldn't. I wasbreathless every day of this hike. And
the thing that is great about thishike is that it's four days of hiking,
so it's much shorter than the othersthat were offering, so you you
know, from your in and outof Lisbon in one week. So that's
the first one that's in April andthen we're I'm going to be offering the

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Camino de Santiago the whole thing.So that's one of the things that's unique
about another thing that's unique about onewalk because we're going to hike the whole
trail. Most guiding companies will dothe highlights and you know, and they're
wonderful. Those are incredible travel companies, and I have done some of those
trips, but we're really focusing onthe hiking experience. So I'm going to

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guide the Camuno to Santiago the wholetrail, five hundred miles. That will
be in April and May, andthen the Cotswold Way in June again because
that's such a fantastic first hike fora new through hiker. Then the summer
off maybe exploring some of my owntrails, and then in the fall again

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we'll offer the Cotswold Way again inthe fall, and then we're going to
finish the twenty twenty three season withWest Highland Way in Scotland, and that
is remote and fantastic, a littlemore challenging, still appropriate for a first
time hiker, but physically a littlechallenging than the other hikes. So that's

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the menu. I love it.And how long does it take somebody to
hike walk? You know, thecombination of those two things five miles?
Well, so it how long isit going to take us? I mean
that you can answer that question amillion ways. We're going to start April.
It takes about thirty two days tohike that thing. For the average

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person to hike if they were tohike every day. Now you can't really
hike every day for thirty two days, so you need to have like a
rest day. So we're going toput in a rest day every ten days.
And you do hike through some fantasticcities along the way, so you
want to you know those, it'sfun to take a rest day there.
It's important to do laundry and letthe body I recover. So we'll be

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doing that trip from April seventeenth throughMarch through May twenty fifth, and also
in there are a couple of traveldays from Barcelona to the big will meet
in Barcelona and travel to the beginningof the trail together, so that that'll
be our plan. So and whenwe're and when you're hiking it again,

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you meet people from all over theworld. There and you develop little communo
family and it's it's a lot offun. So even though we will be
a small group, it's a veryintimate group. I the max number that
I will take on this hike isfive people and will be but people will
have the space to have their ownexperience. We're not going to literally hike

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together. I mean you'll will beroughly on the same schedule, will be
in the same hotel at night.That your will be free to hike with
whoever you meet and dine with whoeveryou want to. And that's a really
important and a really fun part ofthe communo. There's a saying on the
camino that you meet the right personat the right time, and it certainly
is true in my case, notonly my partner, but you'll just even

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have a conversation with somebody you know, maybe about what they do for a
living, and it's directly related tosomething that you were just thinking about yourself.
So that happens all the time.It's a lot of fun. Well
for people who have not done this, and as you know, I've done
a lot of it, not exactlywhat you're doing, but in terms of
going around the globe and hiking youknow, you're come together with all these

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different nationalities, right, and thatthat there's such a dynamic thing about learning
folks from other cultures and realizing thatthe end of the day, we're all
the same. And it's used thegovernments who screw everything up and the people
that normally come together to do thesetypes of outdoor events, you know,

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kind of had that love of theoutdoors anyhow, And so you have them
all halfway down the track of they'reexcited to be there. They were like
minded m and they're friendly and they'refun and that's what makes any and you
and you continue to expand your horizons. I get messages quite a bit from
people like I'm trying to find mypurpose and this and that, and you

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know what, the biggest thing forme is just my number one advice is
the same advice the game myself,which is stepping into the fear. And
I think sometimes like stipping into thefear like I originally did and you did,
which is you just got to bookthe trip, whether you have a
buddy or not, that should bedependent. And you going to join an
expedition like yourself where you've got everythingfigured out and you just got to show

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up or ready to go, bringyour best at itself, and you know
that you're going to learn a lotalong the way and it's going to empower
you at the end of the day. So much so. Mark. In
fact, I think you know Ibefore Andy, actually I did most of
my hiking alone. It doesn't meanyou're actually alone, but I didn't.
You know, I don't really havemany friends. That's changing now as I've

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done so much hiking because I'm makingfriends all over the world or love to
hike. But I didn't have somany friends at home we want to hike,
so I had to go do iton my own. I actually really
recommend that you're gonna I have.You will have a very rich, fantastic
experience when you do that, andyou won't be alone. You'll meet people,
you will be when you want tobe, and you'll be socializing when
you want to be socializing. Butdepending on the trail. But you know,

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related to something you were saying overthe years that I've been doing this
and now so I've been doing alot of through hiking, you know,
the last three or four years,and there is this little bubble of through
hikers. It's a global community.They're typically our age, very interesting people.

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They've sold companies or retired or alwaysbeen hikers and lived you know,
hand to mouth for their whole life. But it's a very vibrant, interesting,
fun community, and I just Ilove meeting these people. And then
you learn from them the next greathike. You know, they'll share with
you their favorite hike they've ever done. And that's actually how I found out

(26:56):
about that trail and Portugal. Isthat a a wonderfully young couple and that
I met in Switzerland. Oh,I hiked there too this summer. They
told me about this trail, sowe went to check it out and it
was just fantastic. It's very fun. Yeah, I've had the same experience
as you know. I was inSwitzerland in Vermont actually getting like breaking news

(27:19):
up to date with the reports fromyou, because I was about rid of
launch to go over there. Iwas about like a week behind you to
climb the Mattahorn, of which atthe end of the day I wasn't able
to do is way too hard,and so I went to melt block and
climb that, which was super intenseby the way. I know. Yeah,
and you know I've climbed these mountainsall over the world, and I
don't think maybe except for one thatI've ever actually maybe two, I've actually

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gone on a plane with somebody thatI'm going to go and do the same
with. Right every single time,it's like, okay, it's in the
same thing with I live here inSaint Valley, Idaho, and I'm doing
the same thing. You know,I'm client climbing. But to your point,
you know, I get so muchaccomplished by just either not listening to
anything beyond just the things going onin my own mind or podcast or just

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music. You know that just youknow, it's kind of in the background
where I daydream and go open down. But but you know, you either
can sit at home, you cango out and make something happen. And
certainly in your case, you havemade something happen. I'm so proud of
you. Thanks Mark, And youknow it's so fun. I don't know,
it's really interesting about this. Thisterm makes something happen if you if

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you're bored or stuck in life,or just kind of craving a new chapter,
dusting yourself off a little bit,just start walking, honestly, start
a walking practice. Even locally,you don't, It'll unfold. It'll just
good things will happen. It isum, I mean, we were born

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to walk, So go out andwalk, and when and then that little
neighborhood walk will grow to a fullday hike, will grow to a weekend
hike, will grow to a weeklong adventure, will grow to an international
adventure. I mean it'll it'll justtake off for you and you'll all along
the way, Uh, just havinga great time and becoming so clear on

(29:07):
what you want your life and howto accomplish it and what you don't want
your life equally important, and makinga whole international group of friends that maybe
you will meet up with again ornot, but we definitely stay in touch
with and share stories with. Soanyway, I'm just I'm a big advocate.
Um, I'm so glad I doit. And probably we're going to

(29:29):
do less mountain climbing now, Igotta. I am so impressed with you,
Mark, You're still out there taggingthose summits and I'm like, oh,
so much work, so hard.I actually thought about signing up for
an expedition this year, and I'mlike, oh, I really wanted hauld
my body to a summit so physical. I know, I know that's all
part of the challenge, but Ican honestly say, you know, and

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this is for anybody that's considering,you know, going You can't just show
up, you know, you haveyou have to walk right, you have
to train and this is but Ithink this is the like so many people
focus on. I'm not saying thatyou necessarily, but so many people focus
on like these hard, tough climbsand expeditions whatever. And for me,
it's literally the process. That's whereI fall in love with what I do

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and the reason why I do it. And after I hang up with you,
I'm going to go out and doand climb another mountain today by myself.
Is because I know that I've gotthe Matta horn. The I'm gonna
go back and try to attack againnext year with success. And you know,
I failed on it, and that'sokay. I still got to train
all last year for that moment,and I still made kind of lemonade out

(30:36):
of Lemons and went and got MountBlanc. But now I'm going to go
back and so I now get inan opportunity to try and for another eight
months. Yeah, you know,until you go back there and so well,
I'm going to see I see youoccasionally, you know, on social
media saying well what should I donext? And I'm dying to get you
to try a through hike. Andright there is the Hope route right there,

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and mind mark that is it's it'seight days. I think it was
eight days. I get them alittle confused. I've done so many of
them recently. Spectacular. It's sobeautiful. It is breathtaking. And you
went from Zermat to sham We wentfrom Shamony to Zermat. Okay, Yeah,

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I had some people go the oppositeway and effort. That's amazing and
I do want to look into thatnext year. Yeah, you could do
that. You could go the oppositeway, I think the typical way SHAMMONI
and it is. You know,it's incredible. I can't even tell you.
You will love it. It's noteasy. There's an incredible amount of
ascension throughout the days. Some gnarlystuff. You're hanging off some mountain sides,

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a little exposure here and there,but the scenery just takes your breath
away and you cannot there's no wayto see this with a car. You
have to go by foot and you'llmeet the best people. You will meet
the best people. So anyway,just a little plug when you're out there
to give through hiking a try.Yeah, I know, I love that.

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Okay, so let's go back andagain let's plug the website. So
if anybody wants to go and participatewith Sean on this, Yeah, it's
www dot one, walk O nE walk dot World. And so we
went up today. Our hikes areup there today. The some of the

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other things we do are included.There are more and layers to the business
that will be revealed in the monthsahead, but the foundation is up and
I'm super excited and we'd love tohave people check out the hikes. They
are limited, they're very intimate hikes. The you know, the largest group
we take is eight. So youknow, if you have any interest in

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going on a three hike, wehelp you prepare physically for them. Our
goal is to create an independent hiker, where we don't want to create a
dependent hiker, which is really Ithink the goal of many guiding companies.
They want repeat business. If ifwe get that, great, but it's
not our what we're out to do. And uh yeah, sign up because
I think they fill up quickly.Awesome, awesome, Yeah, okay,

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well, listen, thank you somuch for coming on the show. I
had a blast. And what Iwant to do too is in like a
year from now, I want usto come back on and after a full
season of doing this and let's talkabout what you learned. Oh, i'd
love to. I love Yeah,I can't wait out. Yeah, it'll
be a lot of fun. Okay, thanks all right, Sean, listen,
appreciate you coming on. Continued journeys, happy blessings and all that stuff

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the holidays, and you're joining yourbright light in this world. Thank you.
Oh thanks, Mark, have agreat one right all right? There
she is the one, the onlySean Richardson