Fire Escape Cast #99

On this episode of Fire Escape, Mike talks about Sniper Elite: Resistance, Dan shares an update on Red Dead 2, and Mary adores Dome Keeper.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back to the fires Gape cast. It is episode
ninety nine. We are here. It's January twenty seventh or something.
I'm Mike Mahardy. Here's always with Dan Riikert. Hello, and
Mary Kish.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is my real voice. Do not be fooled by
the imitators that people have overused in jokes that are over.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
One year old.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Holy shit, Dan, that soundby was perfect.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
That wasn't on the on the recording. I haven't done
it on a podcast in a while.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Authentic, true gluten free Mary, it is real.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Raw and wait, breebe the opposite of raw.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Do people have gluten in them just by nature?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I got, oh, yeah, I have to gluten. Yeah, check
out both of my glutens. I don't do voices anymore.
We discussed yeah, yeah, gluten. So what's up Dan? You
got Harvard floors in that room?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Now? Luxury vinyl is I think the technical term.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh and if anybody, Xana, can you preface a disturbing
noise that people might pick up at some point during
this episode? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
You know, sometimes I don't think about things that might
be a surprise to people. And I was like, yeah,
so I was turning to think, like, what can we
do to our house? We should do something to our house.
And me and Bank both had our offices. Uh had
the carpet torn off and put the vinyl in, and
she's fine with it. She's not, you know, on a
recording podcaster, exactly, it looks good, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It feels good on my feet.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's super important for a professional podcaster to have a
really nice hardwood floor behind them.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
I did mention it to back Lar and he's like, well,
that's going to give you an echo. It's like, oh, okay,
well here's my thing. In Connecticut. Every fucking up episode
we did a fire escape, I had hardwood floors, and
so I don't understand why it would be different.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
This room strikes me as bigger than that.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I don't I think the other one might have been
slightly bigger.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's also the dimensions, right, like if you're yelling at
a wall and it bounces off the wall and HiT's
a hardwood floor. I was told that there was sound
baffling in your old place that you threw away because
you were like, don't need this anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I was like, it's done the way.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
The carpet which you needed literally, and Dan, you know
this within like five seconds of you saying hello, and
I'm excited to record this podcast, I said, respectfully, you
sound like dog shit.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
To be fair, though, that was when the furnace was
going and it turned off. Now it could turn on again,
so you might all hear it later on.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Fully, we'll turn on again.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's winter in Minnesota, it's going to be It's only
any second now.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's only been negative thirty negative thirty three around there,
so it should be fine. And it probably gets warmer
at night, which is when we're recording.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
So it sounds like a prospector's breathing between is one
empty tooth slot.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Like furnace right now? Right now? I sound fine?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right, no, you sound fine now, But the furnace does
it sounds like fran Dresser getting attacked by a vulture.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You might get the luxury.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It sounds like a tea pot that you've ignored in
your basement floor for three months.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's improv hour, let's go make it sounds like she's
Or from Pokemon jacking off.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Might actually sound like the noise we're trying.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Shee Or it looks like Scissor. It's a character in
the Star Wars universe s c I z O r Oh,
it's like scissor okay, and I could see that, yeah, Or.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It sounds like when Neo's screaming in the Matrix, when
the mirror first goes down his throat.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
The Neo wax off.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well there's no sense in those movies
that he's said, wait no, haven't turned to have sex
in one of the sequels.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right, Oh, like violently or not violent? Sweatily it's sweating
sexy actually, but no, he like they kind of make
it look like he's owing when he does the downloads, like, like,
I know kung fu, make it?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I mean I would probably ejaculate if I suddenly knew
all of kung fu.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah mean yeah, Yeah, that's the first thing to teach
you in your furnace.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Sounds like ejaculating because you've learned all of kung fu.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Wow, that's the first skill you would download if you
could immediately learn, like master a skill in whatever ten
seconds it takes.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
All languages would be really cool if you're just go
like an all language pack would be pretty sweet.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Would that be like Morse code and everything too? Or
those like expansion packs. Oh okay, d yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
The languages nobody can talk anymore and like don't know
anything about so you're able to like translate like texts
that are just gone. Yeah, cipher codes.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Maybe. I think I would do every martial art before
I did languages.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I would do violence over education, be shocked defense.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I would do something parquet punch. You can learn Spanish
in a few years.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You can't learn can't You've learned a punch in four years?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, but I want to know all the moves and
holds and stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
All these things take dedication, patience, and determination, of which
you have none.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
You're downloading this. That's the point. You don't need one.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
The thing about languages is I assume that it's just
like knowledge in your head. But when it's like kung fu,
even if you have the knowledge, I don't know if
you actually if your body would know. I mean, shot,
I'm really are you as weak as you are now?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yes, But I mean there's a leverage and bodyweight that
you can utilize. You know, I would know all the
different chicken wings and Nelson's.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, what are you trying to say?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It? Jiu jitsu happens right here?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Are you are you as limp as a noodle as
you are at this moment, or it doesn't. It also
come with some muscles.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I did a ten minute peloton upper arm and shoulder
exercise today, so I think I'm doing fine.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'm sure that'll save you in the Oxagon.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Come on, McGregor, I would download.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
If I downloaded ten minutes to kung fu and I'm
about to take on this fucking fighter, watch me still weak.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I've forgotten the other component of.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would if I'd been better situation than I am now.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You would snap your bones.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I mean, if I that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
If I got in a fight right now, I do
think my knee jerk instinct would be like to do
like a super kick like wrestling movies. Like I've seen
so much wrestling, and I think I would be going
for like the tas mission or a super kick before
I tried in the actual martial arts move.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think a person who can actually fight would just
punch you, like right in the chin really quickly and
you get knocked out.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, that would be it. I mean, there's no way
I would have my defenses up. I wouldn't know about
how I was supposed to do that, it'd be over.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I would. If I was like fought in the Civil War,
I wouldn't even use my bayonet. You just see me
running around the field kicking people in the nuts. What
if there's like a flag guy, Yeah, the flag guy
just fall Yeah, Ulysses s Groin. What if, Like, do
you think they could fully respect him if they saw

(07:41):
him doing that?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
If you won the war, Yeah, there'd be statues to you.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean imagine, Okay, you're at like the victory parade
in Washington, d C. And Ulysses S. Grant is riding
passed on this horse after the Union wins. If you
had seen that guy just sprinting around the battlefield kicking
people in the cross, I don't think you'd fully respect him.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Talking about as long as you win, you know what
I mean, Like you take out a whole Nazi regime
by just kicking them in the ball, It doesn't matter.
This isn't really about any specific war. This is just
about winning and being on the good side.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
You had guns, though, that's true.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Before you kick's is like the scissor crock crotch kicking's
paper and then like a nuke is the rock to
the gun's scissor. Ah.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, so in the previous question that somebody wrote in
the Pokemon evolution goes kicking in the nuts gun nuke.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's fair, all effective.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, they should make Christopher Nolan should make an Oppenheimer
for the first guy that kick someone in the nuts.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
That'd be really good.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, I would see that.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's just like all of that amazing audio design. But
it's just a slow motion kick to the groin.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah. Anybody timing it, like can see on their watch
there's five minutes left and the growing kick hasn't happened yet,
and all of a sudden, sloo kicks in, and.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Then Isaac Newton goes, what have we done?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
And Einstein's in it for some reason.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's Newton because
it's like gravity of the balls. But like I get
what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, yeah, oh that makes sense. Yeah, what I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
He's like he's like writing all these like algorithms on
a chalkboard and he's like, it's the balls, but it's
too late. We've already learned.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think Newton ever drew balls. Yeah, yeah, like for
fun or do you think it was part of like
an equation.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Like with a dick involved.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, Like like, did like fourteen year old Isaac Newton
draw a dick on a chalkboard? Did they have chalkboards
back then? Did he draw it into sand or however
they drew back then?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm sure they had chalkboards, right a passage?

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, I hope that teenagers back then found that
funny too.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't think that one of the very few joys
they had back then. You know, they didn't have tele
and they didn't have video games. You know, back then
you had some twigs and a berry and you were like,
oh my god, that's like two dicks in one ball,
and you you joked about that, and then you died
of scoliosis.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
I used to in the middle of the night in college,
some of the halls would be left open because there
would be like late night classes, and me and my
friends like after the bar sometimes would just go in
and go into every classroom that was unlocked and just
draw big, big dick and balls on it.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is that like with markers or chalk whatever was available.
Did you deal with permanent marker on the board?

Speaker 3 (10:32):
No, I don't think. I think we're just trying to
be rascals who were trying to cause damage.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I wonder if that would be considered vandalism if you
did permanent marker on a board at night in a college.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
So I think that's not super cool because now the
teacher can't.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Teach if it's permanent. Yeah, I know, they could wipe
the dick off.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
The ultimate prank is one where all parties laugh. Nobody
should be like crying in the corner, agreed, that's not
a good prank. Should be something where everyone can appreciate
the gag and life can go on as if it
never happened. Does that mean that makes sense?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Ranks back then, Yeah, all of mine were pretty temporary
in college. You know, we're getting a shark mascot suit
and running through a film class. Stuff like that, you know,
very filming, it putting a risk show. Yeah, I had
no fun innocent stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, all the.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
All the sweet, sweet innocent things.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Tell tell us about a not victimless prank that you've done,
because I'm sure there are some.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Oh it would have been with like friends that I
was very close to to where they could Oh, oh,
I have.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
One, what's that?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
In college, we were playing a lot of Mario Kart,
and one late night we broke into the college greenhouse
and we stole the bananas from the banana tree and
then we peeled them and threw them on the floor
the greenhouse.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Was it like a nursery for growing those things? Yeah,
did like a botanist get pissed off.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm sure they were, like, we've been trying to harvest
these bananas for like three years. They weren't very you know,
they weren't very big because it's not a good place
to grow bananas, it's Ohio. And we plucked them all
and peeled them and were like running around throwing them
at each other's feet.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
The fun there's pounding on your bedroom door. The next night,
a swat team of gorillas storms the room wearing helmets
with that battering ram thing.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, we probably feel you're my punishment is to be
peeled like a banana, like my skin.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, it seems that's a fatality.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Punishment from ulysses as growing here.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, that was his movie.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I feel a little guilty that we probably ruined some
learning opportunities. I'm sure the teacher who who ever really
cared for that greenhouse was like these little bastards destroyed
this banana tree that I've been working on. And it
was not for like of any value. It was like, haha,
we have peels and we're throwing them at each other.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
That was it. Where'd you go to college? What was
the professor's name?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I went to Ohio University.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Okay, I'm gonna look it up, see if I can
find the professor and tell them.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I do feel a little bad about it, but I
also think, like in the grand scheme of things, when
I say, like we broke in, we didn't break uh,
you know, like glass or anything. We didn't ruin the place.
We just got in when we shouldn't have gotten in.
And you know, ruining some bananas is not a huge crime.

(13:49):
But that's the one I'm willing to admit to you.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I guess the one that definitely had a victim with me,
And I wasn't the only one, but I was kind
of the ringleader. Was was in the dorms and my
friend Ben. We got back from a party or something
and we were all just tanked and Ben passed out
hard and his lower bunk and his cousin was his roommate,
and so his cousin, me, couple other friends went in
and we got a bunch of duct tape and electrical

(14:14):
tape and stuff, and we like scooted. He was so out, like,
you know, he didn't even notice we're like scooting the
whole bunk bed away from the wall, and we're just
going around and around like fully, duct taping him to
the bed, you know, putting cigars in his mouth, drawing
on him in permanent marker, all that shit, and he's just.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Not waking up. So we all just keep doing shit.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
So we fucking like took all of the pillows and
blankets and everything, and we went up to the lobby,
got all the couch cushions, put it between him and
the lower part of the upper bunk, so he's completely
sandwiched in there. We put down all the blankets over
it so it's pitch black, and then we got all
the chairs and everything from the lobby and filled the
actual room with it. So even if he gets up,

(14:53):
gets free of all the tape, he has to dig
himself out from under all these cushions, find his way
out from under the blanket, and then the whole room's
filled with chairs. Anyway, if he couldn't be Chris. Well,
we didn't think about them. We might have been nineteen
and very stupid. So we leave and his cousin wasn't
staying in there. His cousin was standing in a girl's
room that night, And it turns out one of the
guys was leaving the next morning to go to work

(15:14):
and he just heard yelling coming from Ben's room and
Ben's like help, help, goes in there.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Ben had woken.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Up two or three hours earlier, couldn't get out, and
was super hungover and just was repeatedly peeing his pants.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh my god, I'm not claustrophobic, and is a terrifying
cast to me.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yes, So we all went in.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
We helped him out, We cut him loose and everything,
and he'd been peeing so much that his I want
to say, his blanket or his fitted sheet was red.
And so we took the fitted sheet off and there
was just a pool of red pea because like the
die from the thing had mixed with like had just
been sitting there so long, and so just red pea
that he'd been laying in. And so that night we
went out to another party, we came back. I was

(15:55):
the one who passed out of my bed and he
put a bunch of super glue in my hair and
so deserved it. Yeah, yeah, that's why. Well, I mean,
but I had to like cut my hair like that night.
So I get up and I'm just like, you know,
asking people for clippers. I sho, you know, cut my
head and all that stuff. And uh. Then I met
him in the lobby and I asked if I could
punch him in the face and then we would be
even and call it juice. Yeah, I have this on tape.

(16:16):
I have the face punch on tape. I have. Yeah,
I just ducked him in the face.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Really, you were already even, you fucking terrorized.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I mean what he did to you was even.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
He was temporary. My hair was cut. I guess it's
temporary too, right now?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Is that from the glue?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
From two thousand and threes And yeah, so I should
go find him and punch him again.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think I think you were even. Yeah, when he
puts super glue in your hair.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
It was like he knew I was a weak man,
and so I just got one punch to the chin.
Got it on tape. It looked pretty weak. He just
kind of ah, and we shook. Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, uh yeah, I would have. I would have freaked
out if I woke up tied to a bed encased
in linen's out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Our entire floor was doing that ship like all the time,
Like if we rememb There's one time, oh god, a
guy came back from the bars and he was in
his dorm room having coitus with someone we had met,
and we took like handfuls of bottle rockets, like whole
like bundles of them and just lit them and like
the roommate would like, let us in with the key,

(17:23):
and we just toss it in and they're just in
their mid sex and a bunch of bottle rockets start
going off.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's Jesus changer.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, uh no, he thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Uh yeah, yeah, we were menaces for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Did he let you punch him in the face afterwards,
just to make sure it was even?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Now, there's no nobody got uh you know, any get
backs on that one. But yeah, eighth floor McCullum Hall
two thousand and two, two.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Thousand and three was a column hall. It was a circus. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Now he can only get off if there are fireworks
in the room.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yes, absolute, that was a high. Was chasing the dragon forever.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Sex with a Roman candle.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Lit god he empty, he empties one hole from the
Roman candle.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Every every thrust one of the reports goes off.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, it's just a nub because of all the mistakes
and incidences.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, our ras really loved us.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I couldn't imagine. I feel like the girls dormitories were
just so reasonable, Like, yes, we got into like moderate shenanigans,
but we just were nice people. We just didn't do
ship like that to each other. Our games were mental.
We were fighting other wars.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Sure, ours were very physical and gross and stupid.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, you're from the era of Jackass, and I think
all boys at that time and girls were just so
heavily influenced. And the funniest thing you could do is
get some one to shit their pants.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I never the shit stuff. That was as much as
I loved Jackass. That was my line where it's like,
I remember my friends would be really in the like
cky and like bambargerra stuff and everything, and they would
literally be like doing like poop stuff, and we're like
running at full sprint and pooping.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I always thought that was that's too gross.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like I thought it was funny when like, okay, tastefully
one of the guys would go into a hardware store
and poop in one of the toilets. That's fine, you know,
that's just sitting display. That's tasteful. I don't want Sometimes
they were pooping on each other's heads and stuff. It's like,
I don't want to see this stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I also think they were saying something broader about our
system and like how much things cost so that we
can just do basic, you know things in our lives. Symbolism, symbolism, symbolism.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I should have picked up on that social commentary.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think to this day my favorite Jackass is when
they they lock all the doors on the limo open
the center. It's the funny thing that because it's not
the bees and the limo, it's the fact that say,
cord marbles everywhere outside stars that makes it genius.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
That is the extra thing where it's like the bees
are hilarious objectively, but when they're all eating shit, when
they think they got out safe, like oh my god.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I think my one of my favorites might be in
the movie.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think the second one where they acted like some
of my groupies had like written a note on the
door to like it was on a big heart and
it was like but the text kept getting smaller and smaller,
so their heads said to keep getting closer to the
and then cartoon ass boxing glove and when we man
did it and he fell off the chairs just about was.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
A chair there.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh god, it's so fucking funny. Those guys are geniuses.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
I met Johnny Knoxville backstage to WrestleMania when I was
at Devin Dry and it just shook his hand and
I was like, thank you for everything was cool.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
He was crazy, seemed a little like odd.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh yeah, that Johnny Knoxville probably is, but like in
a nice way.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
He's been punched in the head a lot, you know,
and so like some of it might be the normal. Yeah,
some of it is probably the normal, Like I am
a celebrity and it is difficult to inner act with
normies all the time. And then the other part is
is like, yeah, he's been concussed so many times.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
He probably more CTE than the wrestlers he was working with.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I suspect, so yeah, speaking of the CTE in wrestlers,
I've watched the Mister McMahon documentary. Can you tell you
can we talk about that? You're not?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I don't know? Used to have to? Okay, Yeah it
was really good. I I didn't realize obviously for those
who haven't seen it on Netflix. Uh, they finished recording,
or rather, Vince basically stopped coming to the interview sessions
for a roll because the allegations came out like the
bad allegations.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
They were recording all those interviews they got with him.
They were recording in the building I worked in, just
in like a separate room.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I've filmed stuff in there before.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, yeah I didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And they got a series out of it. I actually
haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Really got six part six part documentary on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah. Uh, there's a lot just about wrestling in general
that I didn't know. I told him, Man, I was like,
watch this. I'm gonna pissed Dan off. So I started
texting Dan like have you heard of these? Have you
heard of something called the Monday Night Wars? And Dan,
who kept thumbs downing all of them? What else did
I say?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
If I had heard of the Montreal screw Job.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Have you heard of there? You're like you must stop this.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, it's like texting someone who's really in the baseball
and be like, heard of this, babe, Ruth?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah yeah, or if you just started learning Warhammer or
wine and texting me about have you have you had
a cap Frank before. It's good though.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
You guys are Vince fans now?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, your biggest fans not doing that one the family episode,
just Amanda, Amanda's the Family one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
I started to feel bad for Shane and that. Yeah,
because James also completely nuts. Just to be clear, and
if they documentary Sea.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Kind of well adjusted in the documentary, just like overlooked
unloved son.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, he's insane.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
He's definitely not a monster on the level of his
father or anything like that, but he's I'd imagine any
child of that man ever being remotely saying. Stephanie is
you know, she's definitely made some major mistakes and stuff
on air and off, but like she was pretty beloved
at the company, like she she was. I've worked with
there like once or twice and she was very very nice.
But yeah, Shane's nuts and Vince is a monster.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I also had never seen the origins and how Big
Hulk Hogan was. I mean, I knew he was this
pop culture icon. I knew who he was, but I
didn't really know how it started. I was around for
when the Rock was coming up because I had friends
who were really into the Rock and like Goldberg in
that era.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
But it cool they got the Rock for these interviews.
That's quite the guest.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
His was so fucking like polished though, like he just
looked at the cameras like Vince would only ever do
this and like stop being a movie star for a second, give.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
All points out, especially now that he's on the board
of the company, and like even before that, he was
just the most just like not going to say anything controversial,
like all those guys still like seeing a rock, all
those guys still hold Vinced in like very high regard,
and it's just, yeah, that's rough.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
There was too little Rick Flair, I will say, matro Man.
They really didn't. I also didn't realize that ultimate warrior,
like his heart wasn't really in things. He was just
the crowd liked him for a while.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I didn't know, but he didn't care about the business.
No one liked working with him. He was very selfish.
He wasn't saying yeah, no one liked him.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Hogan was a weird one because like I started watching
in ninety three, which is right after Hogan left. So
like I feel like most guys my age, like forty
and above, they all go back, Oh Hogan, Hogan, he
was my thing, and like he wasn't like by the
time I was aware of him, it was like when
he came to WCW and turned into a bad guy,
and so like I missed that whole, like whole Camania era.
And I don't think I certainly think I would hate

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him by this point, even if I grew up with
him and his stuff. But like it is pretty awesome
seeing everyone just knows that he's a real piece of shit.
And like, I don't know if you saw he got
like boot out of the building on the raw on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
He did see that. People were talking about it on
social media. It's just like this big turning point of
like you are it wasn't normal, like you're a heel boo.
It was like we don't want you here boo.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Oh you know, and he's not a heel.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
He was brought out to be, oh, the legendary Jo
Cogan and stuff, and everyone's like, no, fuck you, we
hate you.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
And it wasn't just like.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
A Trump thing, because you know, he came out and
he's done a bunch of Trump stuff and everything. Now
he's very loud and proud about that, because like they
had the Undertaker on the same show, who was extremely trumpy,
and people cheered the Undertaker. It's Hogan is just a
shitty person in every possible way you can be shitty,
Like I don't trust anyone who has like kind words
to say about him as a person.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You know, I also really enjoyed, and I don't bear
in mind, I don't I have not looked farther into
a lot of these people. There's probably many of them
have done shitty things I'm not aware of. I enjoyed
the interviews that they did with like Sean Michaels because
he was pretty honest. I'm sure he's done fucked up stuff.
All these people have the dynamic between like Eric Bischoff,

(25:56):
Bishoff am I saying that right? Has he done shitty
stuff too?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
I mean, he's definitely someone who people would I think
most of our listeners would not agree with his politics
at all.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I don't think he's like a monster or anything. He's
always nice to work with.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
In terms of the documentary, those are the interviews that
at least they were actually like talk like being giving
interesting interviews, whereas the Rock was just like looking into
the camera like just over like you know, not what's
the word I'm looking for? Kind of just like airbrushed
and really.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
A press junket for a movie.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
You know, it's just like the most like you know, soft, uh,
and it's just he is just a corporate bullet point
at this point. He's incredibly talented, but you're not gonna
get anything real out of that guy.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It was also crazy to hear when they started first
start digging into how incredibly misogynistic and abusive everything was
toward women. Tony Atlas was just like, oh, we were
terrible to women back then.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, no, error, like it's just withoutout even like.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Off button up shirt tucked in.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but every single era of wrestling
has had plenty of horrible people and horrible situations like that.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
It has gotten much much better.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
But yeah, Tony Atlas in that era and everything you remember,
like Tony Atliss in that documentary talking about Pat Patterson,
you know, he grabbed my Pecker. That's why I didn't
like him. And then it's like, why didn't you tell
anyone's like what what am I gonna do? Go to Vince,
Like that's not gonna fucking yeah, Vince's buddy, like he's
not gonna punish in and like he'll get fired, you know,
the wrestler. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it is much better now.
It is far from perfect, but uh, it's it's been

(27:27):
a fascinating industry now.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You can't just grab them by their dick and balls.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, unless you were Joey Ryan who that was one
of his main moves for many many years and got
him famous, but then it turned out he was actually
a giant sex pest and got roundly canceled.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
H It's just like Vince, like his ring person in
ring persona reflects who he really is.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's always crazy when like, yeah, like the real Vince
is way worse.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Could have predicted, Yeah, that the sex pest wrestler was
a sex pest in real life.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
We thought it was a cheeky and ironic, like, nope,
he's just a giant xist.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
The guy who showed up at his trial wearing a
neck brace.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, the guy who kept making out with his mistresses
in front of his wife on camera. Oh turned out
he actually had many, many extramarital affairs and much worse.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh so, shit Dan, Actually for people listening in for
Dan if you're not familiar, that was actually for it's
called for shoot. It's when it's not technically real. It's
part of a storyline.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh oh so it's like, Okay, it's like a real
thing that happened. Is that a work?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Actually I'm making fun of you, but is that a work?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
The shoot? Shoot is real? Work is fake?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Gotcha? So it was a work, Well, we'll.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Talk to work shoot If it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
We'll talk about it later. You can text me to
any question.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
So yeah, yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I would shoot be real and work be fake.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I don't get shoot.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
People that don't watch wressing have trouble with that, and
I don't really understand why, because a shoot for.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Shoot, like a video shoot is sounds shoots.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
No, it has nothing to do with that though where
I come from, it's like straight shooting versus like it's
a work.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Like if something is.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I get the work, not the shot.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, Like, oh here I'm gonna shoot with you. I'm
I'm gona shotraight with you, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Shoot.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
But the other one is like it's work like it's work,
it's my job, as opposed to it's just a shoot.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's more not real a work. Not it's work like
a job. It's more like it's a work. Like let's
say it all comes from Carney stuff. So let's say
a carnival booth was like, it's a work if the
ring toss thing, if the rings only go over the
shitty prizes, you know, like, oh right, it's a gimmick.
It's yeah, it's that. That's where that comes from.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Is all your terminology come from Carney's.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean a lot of mine comes from wrestling, which
comes from Carney.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah you talk, Yeah, I use Mark now.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And that comes from carnival stuff because like, let's say.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Pick someone from the audience out right you're telling them, let's.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Say, yeah, let's say it's a fella and his lady
friend and they're walking down the little minigame section of
the carnival, and it's clear the guy wants to win
a big teddy bear for his girl. Basically they will
have a guy go out there back.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I mean, we're talking like the thirties, forties whatever.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Somebody go out there with a little piece of charcoal
and mark like the guy's little coat. And then that
way all the other carnival barkers could see the mark
and be like, oh, here's an easy marked. Like hey,
I follow, you want to win this for your carol,
come over here and know that the guy's just going
to keep spending money because he has the mark on it.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So he's a mark.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Okay, yeah, so's he's vulnerable, he's gullible.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, easy marks.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, okay. Is that just because wrestling evolved out of
like traveling carnival stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, yeah, it used to be a strong man thing.
So you started at carnivals be like.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Ah, who can beat who can beat the strongest man
of the world. He'll take anybody in this crowd. Who
in this crowd, and like they would have a plant
in the crowd, which a plant is still a term
used in wrestling, and so the plant would be in
the carnival too, and he would just be like an
everyman and they would call the plant up to fight
the guy and everything, and it was a work. So
you know, whatever whoever they wanted to win, that would
win it.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's like in The Prestige when they pick they got
the plant? Is it Hugh Jackman or whatever you call
him out of the audience and he's supposed to Christian
Bale is supposed to catch the bullet, and then Hugh
Jackman actually loads a real bullet to shoot him because
he because he blames him for kill him his Well, have.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
You guys seen The Prestige like in college.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's been a long time. And it came out during
that other movie that was also about the same time,
and I got I got them confused. The Illusionist was
like about a guy and his lover and I think
he wanted to run away with her.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, Jessica, it was a deep impact volcano situation.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
No, no, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry. I mix it up.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
It's deep impact armageddon and it was volcano Dante's peak.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Friend.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I understand where you are now,
your maternal animal crossing horizon exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, but yeah, though the documentary
is good and now we're watching I have never seen
I never watched the Queen's Gambit during cod Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Really, that's so good. I'm glad you're gonna get to
enjoy it. It kind of like skyrocketed Anya Taylor Joy's career,
and I think it's warranted because she really owned that role.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
She's really good. What else have I seen her in? Oh?
I seen the Witch? Was the Witch before the Witch
would have been before that. That's the first thing I
saw her.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
She's a baby's teenage.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
The Menu and Furiosa, I think are the only things
I've seen her in Dane briefly right, Dune two she
was in briefly.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Right, I still haven't seen that. She was in last
Night and so yes, oh right, uh.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Last and everything Now she's great.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
She's big. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Last night, Bunk and I watched Late Night with the
Devil watch that I didn't. Neither of us loved it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Most was on my flight from LA recently.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh that he's really good. Like the performances are good.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's just like the whole thing is like it's trying
to do this like Blair Witch found footage type thing.
But it was bugging me because I it's set in
like the late seventies late night shows and that's a
very specific look and like I feel like they made
it four by three which would have been the aspect
ratio back then. But just the cameras look too good,
and just the way the cameras moved and stuff, it
didn't feel like I was actually watching, Like it seems
like they wanted it to look authentic, but it just

(33:02):
looked a little too polished to actually be like a
seventies found footage thing, So that kind of took me
out of it.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I can see that criticism. I think it it had
brilliant ideas, and it is an indie, Like it's definitely
like an independent film, so we have to kind of
take into context, Like I think they had visions of grandeur,
but at some point you can kind of just tell
they didn't maybe have the budget that they wanted to
do everything with it. But it's a brilliant idea. I

(33:28):
think it's such a good idea, and I just don't
think it's executed the way I would have liked it.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I agree the.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Concept is super duper strong, but yeah, like some of
the checks they do are not great. I think there's
some controversy because they used AI art for some of
the like intertitial logos and stuff of the TV show.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't know there was some like AI anger about that,
but that's to me. I don't want to like get
sue into that detail. For me, I was like, whatever,
is the movie good? And the movie is like, there's
some misses. For me, it is entertaining. Like if someone
was like, it's Spoop Tober season, I want a quick scare.

(34:05):
It's free on some service, I would be like, yes,
watch it. I probably wouldn't like recommend paying twenty bucks
to rent it, but I think it's I thought it
was like decent watch for an evening, but I also
found it disappointing. Now, if you like authentic camera work,
have you seen The Holdovers.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
That's one of the Paul Jimani you right, yes, and it's.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Not a horror movie. The Holdovers is one of the
most phenomenal films made in recent years in my opinion,
and it is made with authentic film cameras from that time.
All of the cameras in it are like seventies cameras,
and you can tell it looks fucking great. It ain't
a filter. They filmed it on like that original film,

(34:47):
and it looks awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Soundtrack, the cars, the clothing like it. It's awesome, and
it's Tech. It's set during Christmas, so we've actually like
started watching it yearly on Christmas. It's become autradition. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I've heard great.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Things and awesome, Dude, it's pretty All the performances are good.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
It gets heavy, but you know it's earned. It's really good.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
You know what else that director has made is Sideways,
a movie about wine, Oh Frado.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
He loves Paul Giamatti. He's a really good actor. And
in this one, I feel like, at least in Sideways,
like they're like you're like a young buck who's like
out to score and like you get yourself into some trouble.
In this one, they're like you're like a decrepit, ugly
teacher that no one loves. And he's like he's got
this like weird eye.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Everyone hates him.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, and he's like, all right, that's me. Like he's
really earned this role.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Have you heard the story about him with Planet of
the Apes?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
No?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
But I mean, oh my god, so I already loved him,
and then I've read this anecdote recently, so basically remember
the like two thousand and one Marky mark uh Planet,
the Tim Burton one that was fucking terrible yeah. Yeah,
So Jimmati's in it and he plays an ape, and
I need to find this actual quiot because basically his
agent really wanted Okay, this is a quote from Paul Gimonti.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was obsessed with the plan.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Of the Apes movies as a kid, so the notion
that I could be in one of those was mind
blowing to me. My agents were like, don't you think
you should play a human so they can see your face?
And I was like, if you tell them I want
to play a human in this, I will fucking kill
all of you. I'm going to play an ape.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, he's dedicated. I love that guy knows what he
wants and he runs straight at it.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I love that real stern opinion to be an ape.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Last week, you know what we do our Tuesday movie nights.
Last week, Mary, we did the Substance.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm very interested. I'm very invested in how you fucking
I've been thinking about it since I saw it.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's a very subtle movie, and I understood all of
the metaphors and symbolism.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah. Really, what am I trying to say here?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Lets you know its point. I mean, it is Hammer's
home all of those points. Towards the last I don't know,
five minutes, maybe ten minutes, you're like, what are we
doing here anymore?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
The end was fucking incredible, and what they waste no
time and like the whole concept this isn't a spoiler,
because this is the concept of the movie, is like
you take this substance and it makes like a younger
version of you, and like they don't waste a single
frame of that movie being.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Like, well here's how it works. They're just like, here
it is. Do you want to take it?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Now you're young? You know.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
They never even discussed payment, which I found really interesting
about this film. Yeah, there's no exchange. At no point
does she sign a contract I think, or like is
there like me talk, literally no information because this movie
they like decided early on they were like, well we
don't give a shit about any of that. They don't

(37:46):
need to. They cut out all the middlemen. There's no
middleman in this. It's just straight up like this is
what I want. I want everyone to know that this
is the only thing I care about. And then like
the implications of that, and then I would say, just
a complete slow burned downfall of everybody involved. It is
a horrible visual to wad.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
There's some horrible like Dennis Quaid his character is. This
is how subtle the movie is. He's a super sleazy,
misogynistic film executive named Harvey.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's how subtle this movie My name is Honestly.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I mean he kind of has a McMahon look to him.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I had that thought many times.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes, his very first shot and this is nothing is
an accident in this but his very first introduction is
him pissing in a urinal with a fish eye lens
and his face is like in the fucking lens while
he's pissing, and he's just like, she's too old, nobody
wants to fuck her.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, it's so gross. And then like he's ah and
he's talking to.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Her and he's just like eating all this shrimp and
it's super close up on his mouth. It is the
least this movie is a sledgehammer. It is fucking awesome. Though,
Like Mary, I was with you the whole time. I
remember like in the middle you talked about how like
it kind of goes up and down in terms of
like it's so gratuitous.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
In the middle, its sobody's.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Like there's Margaret Qualley's ass, just like over and over
and over again, and then it's like by the end,
it's just like all that like gratuitous like ooh butts
and boobs.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
By the end, it's like, oh God, what are we
doing here?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I remember saying when I was like, I don't
know if I was pitching this to you, but like
my reaction to it was, I love this film. This
is so interesting. I hate this film. They have lost
the plot. Oh I love this film. They played me
like a fiddle and they knew me very well, and
I was just like wondering, is that your ride as well?
Where Like at some point actually was like I literally

(39:34):
said out loud, I don't like this movie, and then
by the end I changed my mind.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I think it is all earned because it's like it
is so cartoonish, like when Margaret quality takes over again.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
No big spoilers here anything, but you know, it's like
a workout sha.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
The hot one, yeah, like Demi Moore was like an
aging yeah, like Jane Fonda style workout video thing. And
it's so funny because its supposed to be this workout video,
but every single move that Margaret Poley is doing is
like tits and camera tits and camera squat squat squat,
and it's just it's like it is the it's so
so gratuitous that it's intentional, and but that is just
kind of the point of the movie and where it

(40:07):
goes and everything. So yeah, yeah, I felt like it
was earned.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, I had. I had
a real visceral reaction to that film, and I think
they wanted you to write like they really wanted to
make sure you ya got it. But I believe to
me more one uh first award for her acting in that,
and I also thought that was quite earned because I
think that's a very difficult role to accept as an

(40:32):
aging actress, which is like, here's a role in which
you're you're an aging actress. Aren't you perfect for this
role of an aging actress that will give up anything
to look a little younger, And then we're gonna have
this hot actress with a fat ass be you and
have all the sex scenes or like all the hot
scenes with her ass. But when we want to show
someone who's like destroying themselves mentally and physically and is old,

(40:54):
it's you also full nudity you in and she was
like sure, and she did it, and I just think
she really own it well.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Her speech at the Golden Globes is really good because
it kind of touched on all that stuff about being
like an aging actress in Hollywood and like you know,
her agents and people saying like, hey, you're not going
to get these roles anymore, but like you ever heard
a win for this, and it's super deserved.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
As soon as you turn thirty six, your options are
to be Jim Carrey's wife, or like the dead mother
of someone who wants to like get revenge. That's it,
like you're or like a really old uh grandma in
the you know who's like in the crowd clapping yeah,
because the prince has done something good.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Those are your three options.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
There was a good uh Niki Glazier at a joke
at the Golden Globes about how like, oh, when you
turned you know, fifty, as a woman in Hollywood, you're
pretty much on the way out. If you're if you're
if you're a man and you're fifty, congrats you're about
to play Sidney Sweeney's boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, it's it's true. I mean it's ridiculous, Like I mean,
they're all doing great and like good for these old men,
the cloonies, the pits, they're all killing it. But I
think like they're is something to be said. It is
way younger than fifty. That joke is silly, Like literally
as soon as you twear and I turn, I want
to say, like thirty seven, thirty eight. As a woman,
they're just like, you get nothing except for mom options

(42:12):
and your parts will be very flat.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
I saw this Demi Moore kind of comeback story a
lot like Mickey Rourke because he had been gone for
a long time and he came back for the wrestler,
which was also just like, hey, you're going to play
this like beat up piece of meat, just this old loser,
you know, who's just an idiot and it's a idiot's
maybe not the word, but you know. It's a similar
thing where it's this big actor that had disappeared for

(42:36):
like a while and then comes back with this like
very well regarded role.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Like I love seeing that stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Darren Aronofski did that again with Brendan Fraser with a whale.
Oh right, I don't know that there's any parallel between
Brendan Fraser and the guy's life in the Whale. I
have not seen that movie. I have no intention either.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
My problem with seeing something like that is that it's
so heavy, and I usually watch I'm not saying I
can't watch a heavy movie. I think Kheimer is heavy,
and I just loved that film. I think there's something
about watching like a character suffer for two hours for
just being a shitty person.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I read a lot, but it's just like, it doesn't
feel like Aeronofski's doing anything besides just pitying the character
the whole time. So what's the point? I don't know,
so I gotta I don't know. I don't think I'm
gonna watch it. Eric Darren Aronofsky's movies, I mean, I
think you're supposed to either hate or love them. I
love Black Swan, I love The Wrestler.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I wouldn't watch it again. I wouldn't watch Black
Swan again. Like that movie was exhausting to get through.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
I think I would watch it again because I was
surprised with the rest of who owns.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
The Swan on DVD? Who owns a DVD?

Speaker 4 (43:38):
But like who owns I have ba on four K
and The Wrestler, well the Restaurant Blu Ray Yeah, No,
I mean, like, The Wrestler is a fucking depressing ass movie.
But I hadn't seen it in a few years, and
John Carson hadn't seen it, so he came over and
we both watched it and we're like, oh, that's a
five out of five, fucking like, that's one of my
few five out of five's letterbox.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
That was in theaters and I was working in the
theater and I remember seeing that. I was like, holy shit,
that was amazing. And then I talked to all my
friends like it fucking sucked. I was like, what we
were young, I guess, so I was like, I don't know,
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Spoilers for The Wrestler, which came out in two thousand
and seven. If anybody wants to mute now, I feel.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Like we're allowed to.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, it's past. So I'm I'm always up for.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I've heard yes, yes, oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Oh yeah she is movie.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, now that I think about it, I'm think, oh,
yeah she was.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Oh yeah, she had twenty three minutes in the seventeen
seconds of screen time.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I think, I don't know, Yeah, it's something around there.
He might be a double tention a second off.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I think she snip slips that, like.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
You must be thinking of someone else. You're thinking of Mick.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Mickey was wearing that mesh Yeah, Mickey was wearing that
mesh top thing.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I remember that. That must have been Mickey I'm thinking of.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Was I gonna say, oh yeah? The spoilers for The Wrestler,
I uh.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I watched the movie and I loved it, and it
wasn't until, like I swear, twelve years later or something,
someone's like, oh yeah, like when he dies at the end,
and I was like, what are you talking about it? Like, hey,
dies at the end of that movie, isn't it doesn't
he goes out, he just has his finishing move and
it goes to black. I'm like, yeah, that's he died
doing it. And he died in the ring like I
did not under I just thought it was this triumphant
like I'm gonna do my move and he's like, oh,

(45:13):
on top of the world again, and then credits. I
thought like, oh, good for him, and everyone's like, oh,
he died, which also, I I don't want to just
say names of movies where people die at the end.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
But yeah, I can't say it now, but several.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Movies the main character has died at the end and
I haven't realized it.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Well, fuck now I have to. I was about to
talk about another recent movie I saw, and now it's
the spoilers because I can't bring it up now.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Okay, okay, everyone mute.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
If you were worried about spoilers for any movie, that
is ridiculous. Ill Okay, this one was a sci fi
movie from the late twenty tens. If you're worried about
a spoiler for that, all right, everyone's muted. What here
we go, Blade Runner twenty forty nine. I didn't realize
Ryan Gosling died.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I thought he was just.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Like waiting for Harrison Ford and he just laid down
on the thing. It was like, it's that's nice and.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Sorry dead the snow bleeding out?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yet what about the end of the thing.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
The end of the thing recently? Right, I was watching
for the breath because you said.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
That man, come on this journey with me, Michael, we
stop it. Stop being that way.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
No, what you know? Both they're both still conscious, talking
to each other at the end.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
The dead they're dying thing, Yes, but they're going to die.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Sure you're not die? Yeah, yeah, for sure, they're not
getting out of there. Yeah, definitely. I also watched the
character none of the characters die at the end for Challengers.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Luca Guandino soundtrack for that when I'm running. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, it's a really good soundtrack. Trender resor atticists Ross
who do every fucking soundtrack now. So Luca Guanino, who
I love, did two movies last year. He did Challengers
and now I have the screener from Writers Guild for Queer,
but we have not watched it yet.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Challenging nice, were nice working on netflex of your screeners.
Good good work, So you can.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I think anybody can sign up for the Writer's Guild
and get a screener if you want. I don't even
know if I should have as.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Part of the Writers Guild, as I have access.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
To my every person in our profession can easily sign up.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I'm not I bet this guy knows about symbolism. I
don't know what the Writer's Guild is.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh my god, what I can do?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm not a writer.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's a very power like, very important union in the
entertainment industry.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
What do I get out of this?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Dan, What do you think that whole strike about was
about like several years ago.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
No, I know about the AI and the actors, and
I fully understand that, and yes, it's good they did
that about that a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
But like I write about Donkey Kong, like I know.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Well, okay, screener aside. I haven't watched Queer yet, but
I think I liked what. I want to get on
this list.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Now tell me how I get on this list. I'll
tell you this guilder.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I'll talk to you after it's it's you say it
like it's a fucking fable faction that you can.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
You don't even know what it is, and you want
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It sounds like you get free stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, because it's for I mean, it's all water marked
and it's all through like specific apps.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's only watch I have that with Netflix and stuff.
I get screeners for that.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
But they'll often they'll give you a code for a
specific streaming platform and you'll do that. It's not you
just said you had it.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
No, I when we did, when we and Bank did
the Paint in the Stream podcast, we got some cop
some of them we still have, so we get early
Netflix stuff with embargoes and all that, and so.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, challenges are good. Oh I finally saw I saw
that too. Yeah, I liked it a whole bunch. It's good.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Okay, it was Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it
three stars. I was. I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
VI's walking the really quiet shot after the village when
he's walking toward the castle and that empty carriage comes
up to grab him. But the shot before that, like
in the dark in the woods, one of the most
gorgeous shots I can remember.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, there's several, like very stunning. There's a I'm gonna
be very careful how I ward this, but there is
a shot where a family is in danger and when
they show what happens to everybody. I think they do
it in a really clean, crisp and brutal way, but
like I feel like there's just it's very desaturated and

(49:19):
there's a lot of use of silhouettes and shadows throughout
it thematically, and so I think the way they do it,
it's brutal, and they don't shy away from really vivid
violence of like what vampires are, which is like, they're
fucking monsters, right. I personally emma hater and did not
care for Lily Depp's performance. And there was like this

(49:42):
moment where she was like yelling at her partner or whatever.
They're having a little spat, and she was backing up
and there was like a bookcase behind her, and I
literally said to my person sitting next to me, She's
she's gonna push over that bookcase, and she was just like,
you know, I'm very upset about She turns around and
pushes down the bookcase. It was just like, how did

(50:04):
how did no one in this room when she was
doing that performance be like, can you make it look
a little less likely that you are about to throw
that bookcase down?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Been distracted by her? I wouldn't distract.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
But I also don't remember her being like, if I'm
thinking performance, I'm defoe in that one was probably confusing.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Was that poor casting? Because like this is controversial, but
everyone in the theater was laughing at every.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Time in a different movie, it doesn't seem right.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Did you see the Lighthouse the Guys, uh Robert Egger's
previous movie or before the Viking? Yes, And that's like
all he's doing these days, is these like coutpass psychoah.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Just a little psycho and the comic relief.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
In the movie. Of course, he's supposed to be funny.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Confused, I was a bit confus he's so funny and
all these people are dying.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
There's a scene where it's like, uh, count Oorlock, Dracula,
this is doing this thing from a distance and it's
awful and horrific, and then it just cut and it's
like crazy loud, soaring music. Then it cuts back to
Leo in the room. He's like, so the count of that,
Like it's he's supposed to be funny, Like I took
him as the comic relief, which that movie needs it
because it's grim the whole time.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
A little off then sure, I think, like what I'm
saying is exactly that, Like I welcome a William Dafoe
in my film. I'm not saying I want him there.
I'm just saying, like something really stressful would happen, and
without like a break, without like a little bit of
a gap, they would just cut to his fucking weird ass,
grimy ass, fallen ass face and he would say something

(51:49):
in the weirdest accent and I was laughing, and I
was just I was just like, are you sure that's
what you wanted?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Did you laugh now and do what he wants to do?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
I surely told you what Bonk said about him. He'll
always be dark off to me. I was just anytime
his face shows up, I just can feel the seat
next to me vibrating.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
His bond is laughing.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah. There's there's a scene later with Willem Dafoe where
like you can tell he was just waiting to go
nuts and he starts going nuts and doing his like
the equivalent of the Boondock Saints, where he thinks that
listening to classical music is gonna an orgasm is going
when you sit in the.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Fire everywhere, and he's yeah, yeah, he's That was amazing.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Also, Nicholas Holt, like every time I see him in anything,
he's always like just perfect for the role.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
What else I've seen him?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
The Menu mad Man, he.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Plays such a weazy little worm.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Same in this kind of almost but like a little
bit like more disguising the fact that he's a huge baby.
He's just dumb in this.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I hope he's not type cast as like a weasly
little worm. But like every time I see him, I'm
always like, there's that weasley little runt.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
He was nuts and have a one.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, he was always kind of just scraping by in
the roles that he was playing. But I think he's
a fantastic actor. It's unfortunate, do you know, like people
who it's not their fall, it's just like their face
and just kind of type cast them. They are people
who are type cast as bullies or type cast is
like idiots because of the way they look. And I
think he's type cast as like a little weasel boy.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, and I in that vein. I also cannot imagine
Lily depth being in anything besides like a gothic Victorian
era bottom car like a doll kind of which you
could tell they down surface. Like, yeah, the way they
did her makeup, I like that movie quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
It's like they put her forehead in a bowling ball shiner.
They really accentuated.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
What is Do you have some underlying problem with Lily
Depp and some resentment of some sort.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I think I'm a hater.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I just like shiner, like the cloth such a.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Funny like are they doing this to her?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Not have the machines, or you put a corner and
you just dunk her head in it like a sorely.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So glaring. I don't know. I was unimpressed with the performance,
but I still really liked the film.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I also did not realize that was Bill scars Guard
until after the movie. He's becoming like the new horror
monster dude because he did a Pennywise. Yeah, he was
also he was also I don't know, there's.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
All these scars Guards that popped up out of nowhere,
Like I never heard scars Guard until like five or
six years ago, and then there's nineteen of them and
they're in everything.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well stelling scars Guard was always in everything. He was
You've seen him all their dad. He was in pirates
like Caribbean Girl with Dragon Tattoo, which we just rewatched
the other night. What else.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I don't think I saw the pirate stuff he was in.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
He was in, he was a couple. He was like
Orlando Bloom's dad and Pirates the Caribbean. He's in a
lot more and blanking right now. But the guard Guard
was also a Barbarian. He was the other Airbnb guest
at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I didn't see that you haven't seen Barbarians.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
You should, dude, you have.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Never heard of this? What is barbarias?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Really funny? Yeah? Yeah, no, no spoilers twenty twenty, don't
look it up.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Don't look up twenty two.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Okay, okay, stop, don't else watch barb movie night.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Be very careful your audience at home. Barbarians, google Barbarian
just watch it.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I know it was on HBO.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Or Max or something like that.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I don't know what it's on now, but like, if
you look, if you look it up, you're gonna fuck
it up for yourself and your family.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I added the list and I had not looked up
anything else.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
It is a well done horror movie.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
It's all yeah, that's yeah, that's fair. That's fair, and
that is I think apparent in the first fifteen seconds.
Like it is. It is a scary movie and it's
very good.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I can't wait to hear your reactions.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah. I don't mean to be the person like, oh,
you haven't seen this. I'm surprised you haven't because I
feel like you would like it.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I've never been a big horror guy.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
You know, it's yeah again, unless you know I think
for this the better I think. Yeah, I would be
surprised if Bonk hasn't seen it, But if she hasn't,
I feel like she would really like it.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, I watch that, but yeah, Bill Scars guards in that.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
And then was the one that was in the succession.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Who was the guy from the Viking? His brother?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Okay, what's the other scars Guard's name?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
The oldest boy.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
That was the guy that was like the head of the.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Norwegian dude or finished.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Norwegian guy Norwegian Swedish scars Yeah, he was in the Viking.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
He was the Viking Alexander scars Guard the Norman.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
That movie is really good.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Actually, I did not love that movie.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
It's I didn't care for it either.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I thought Robert Egger's previous movie Ford after the Vampire,
thought it was The White House.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Yeah, you do need to get letterbox. I like letterbox.
I want to see your just your scores. You don't
have to write anything.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
No, I'm doing it right now. I'm telling you my opinion.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
This is its work.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Man. Oh you're all night. The furnace is back together.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Furnace is back on.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Speaking of horror movies, Jake, Jake, can you look at
every syllable I say from this point on and please
knock out the furnace, thanks, Jake.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Nothing that can be done. It's just a horrible pipe
that looks feels like it's leaking gas into your house and you.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Die thirty for a while.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Put on a sweater. You fucking not cold.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
I'm just saying I'm not cold because of this furnace.
It gets bank be all cold upstairs.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You know what it sounds like, you know what?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
You playing bonk on your fucking port and you have
no sound baffling, and you are a fun entertainer in
your room for a living.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Look, I'm just starting with this.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Stuff sounds someone is in that closet folding and unfolding
an ironing board. That makes sense, It doesn't every every
It sounds like there's a robot laughing along with you.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Let's just get a nice clean read of the furnace here.
You can't it only okay, because yeah, it's the noise
gate thing. Yeah, okay, Well it's only that I never
stopped talking.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
You guys want to talk about video games.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Sure, fucking furnace.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
It's really good. It's really scraping Mary's ear drums.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
It's so ir, it's my, it's my. What eating is
to Mike, it's just like this trigger whistle.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I'm in the room with it. It's always more reason.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
For you to solve the problem. I love that your
answer was I don't know how to turn off a fern.
I don't, and I'm not going to let my wife
freeze to death.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yes, no, I think you just have to actually try
to beat down. Okay, Dan, I need an update. Are
you still playing Red Dead two?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I am. I haven't had as much time to play,
uh since last time, but I have been like, if
I have like a free night, that's when I settle
in I play. Yeah, I'm like eighteen hours in now,
starting to kind of get outside of that first main
camp area, going to you know, rescue guys, rescue Micah
from Strawberry and kind of getting the crew back together

(59:36):
and everything, kind of going back into black Water and
seeing now it's all, you know, real hot there in
terms of you know, the crime situation. But yeah, no,
still playing it, still enjoying it. I wouldn't say any
big updates or revelations or anything like that. It's just uh,
I do feel like I'm doing it right this time,
and I do not think it's going to be a
thing where I'm suddenly like this is the best game ever.

(59:58):
But I think it is going to go from me
just saying it's a piece of ship game every time
it comes up to me being like, it's a really
really it's a really good game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
But it's not going to be for everyone. And there
are things that still annoy me about it. Okay, very mature. Yeah,
I understand symbolism though you're just noble.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I'm noble.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I don't want to use the word hero.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
But yeah, yeah, I think I said that earlier, and
I think you did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
And I think a lot of the emails did.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
We had to like kind of call the emails because
most of them were just calling me a hero.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
What does Mary always say that whenever you say something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Dan is a piece of ship?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
No, I think you know, I say something and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You say is a piece of ship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I'm not going to clip that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
It'd be funny clip. Uh good to hear Mary. You
beat Silent Hill, by the way, I know how Silent Hill.
Do you still like it now that it's over?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I still like it. I'm glad it's over. I just
think that that is a long time to be really
stressed about legs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
And the symbolism though, tell me about the symbolism. I
heard there's a lot in that game sexual assault.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Oh okay, what's what's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
The It's mostly sex related innuendo sexual violence. I would
say it is probably like the better term holes are
repeated throughout that can also be maybe referred to like
going further and further into hell, but a lot of
it is sexual violence.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
That's it's pretty wild for big budget for a big
budget game made by Konami, when Kanami was a big deal.
That's the wild tonally in subject matter wise, to put
out back then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I can't believe they got the rights. I think that
they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
It's kind of like one of those things where they
probably played like a snippet of it and they were
like these nurses are and they're also hot and their
titties are out, and then towards the end they were
like this, son of a bitch, Yeah, this is really dangerous.
And there's like, I mean, the themes, I want to

(01:02:15):
be really careful here, but like the themes are also
about like young girls like it's fucked up, and like
it is a really hard to process game, especially towards
the end. Like the more you get into it, the
more you're like, oh, this is so gutting. It's so draining.
People are miserable, and I got apparently I got the
good ending and it's fucking devastating. It's really bad. And

(01:02:40):
my chat was like, yeah, you that's a good ending.
Everyone's dead. It's a real miserable. It's actually reminds me
of something that you wouldn't get, Like it was one
of those endings where he's just like he's like crying
and he's like really miserable. Then it like it goes
to black and then you hear like these no, and
you probably would have been like, well, I hope he

(01:03:02):
has a good life. I know, specifically I finds himself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
One day, I was in person with Kayla as she'd
be the last four hours that game, and we both
I watched every second and it ended, and me and
Kayla were like, well, that's a spooky town.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
What the hell was that about?

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
And then Chad had to explain it to us, like,
this is what that was about. Here's the metaphor here
and Kayla and I both gone, Oh, that's fucking sad
and traumatic. That's wow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Is the spooky town?

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to go there on
my vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
I'll tell you that mansion was full of zombies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Actually waits nuts. Resident Evel's actually.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Just stupid, right, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Yes? Underlying? Oh you fuck her?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Okay, it's about capitalism or something. Everything's about fucking capitalism.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I'm sure it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
About the war.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Yeah, which war? All of them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Damn the war on the middle class.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah, it's wid the gap.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I'm I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
That Chris Redfield is the everyman wescar Is Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Really really prescient game? Long before he ever talked about
running Umbrella is Elon Yep. Spencer is also trus Twitter.
Yeah wow, whooa Yeah, crimson heads are crimson heads? Are

(01:04:29):
You would have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Known that if you knew good movies?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
And yeah, yeah, crimson edger Trump's second term because he
thought he was gone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
You can't he can run for doors? Yeah wow, we're
a political smart podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, Trump, and now that he's back, he can use doors.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
They can run through doors. Now they have to keep
replacing them at the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Barrels through them secret service, just as to up their
cardio to follow him around. He's sprinting around the White
House opening doors.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
He was in a volcano and fucking Lodgers came and yeah, yeah,
I really do like how Chris Redfield goes from this
every man person who just stumbled onto a into a
mansion in the woods because his helicopter got shot down,
and then he's punching a boulder in Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
It's a good series.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
It's very good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Uh Resumel to remake, I think is one of like
the best games period. What am I playing? Oh, i'm playing?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I finished. I finished Dishonored, the first one. I'm doing
the DLC. Now. I forgot how abruptly and badly that
first game ended you could tell they were just getting
ready for the DLC. But also I forgot how much
I'm Dishonner two is just I used to like be
split between which one I liked, but god, Dishuner two
is much better. But it was still fun going back

(01:05:49):
to see those missions and Dishonor one seeing the kernel
of what would become some of the sequels in the
DLC's really good missions. So that's gone sort of in
the immersive sim vain and talk speaking of level design,
I'm also playing the embargo went up this morning for
Sniper Elite Resistance. Yeah, if you are a Sniper Elite fan.

(01:06:11):
For those who don't know, it's third person sniper series
set in World War Two, and each new mainline game
kind of goes from a different theater of war, generally
speaking during World War Two. But the levels are sandboxes
kind of in this the vein that they are in
Dishonored or hit Man. They're like immersive sim levels. Resistance

(01:06:34):
is feels like a just big expansion pack to five.
So you are a different character. I believe he's Scottish,
but you are helping the French resistance during Nazi occupation.
I've done four levels and again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Always find a way to put Nazi occupation in there. Yeah,
that way you don't feel bad about shooting them in.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Their balls slow mo style.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah. I have not turned off SloMo yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I crank them all all the way up in those
games every super frequent and yeah, I want to see it.
Literally why I play those games. I just want to
see Hitler's ball explode.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
But the level, the level design of those games are phenomenal.
In Resistance, I will say the game I'm playing on
a PC, it feels pretty messy right now. A there's
no big mechanical innovation since five, which is fine, not
that you need it. I kind of was just hoping
for more levels, which is what it is. The first one,
you are it's like GoldenEye, You're going to destroy this

(01:07:32):
dam so you can mess up anti aircraft so these
bombers can come. In the second one, it's more traditional
French countryside town that you're sneaking in and out of apartments.
In the design conceit there is that there are these
underground tunnels connecting the whole map. So once you start
to learn the underground tunnel system, you can pop up
kill one of your side mission targets, go back into

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the tunnels up here on the other side of town.
I could see going back to that mission to try
to master those. Now I'm on one that's a combination
of a train station or rally yard and a big
hotel where this Nazi party is happening, not the Nazi party,
but like a party for Nazis, And uh, that was
pretty cool. It's got it's got like Saboteur Vibes Color Palte.

(01:08:12):
You played that game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
I like that game. Yeah, me too. So what d
I think Saboteur had nipple DLC?

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
You can add nipples to the game.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, I'm searching for Saboteur nipple DLC.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Yep. It's called Midnight Show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yeah, yeah, they put DLC nipples.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yep, that's correct, Midnight show.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Midnight Show is the name of the DLC. Yes, DLC
that adds nudity to the game. Extra hiding spot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Keeps repeating what you say so that it makes more sense.
Nipples you say, you say midnight you say.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Launch DLC that allows players to toggle nudity on and off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yeah, you can go on and off.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Mm hmm. Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
You go to the Unlocks, the secret basement of Sean
Devlin's favorite strip club. You can play a mini game
to earn some extra cash and watch a saucy nude
dance from one of three Bucksome French girls, or all
three at once if you're feeling frisky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Oh, if you're feeling frisky. Yeah, I back to what
I was saying before. Sniper Elite Resistance is it's fun
to see the new levels. However, it is pretty janky.
I will be crouch walking along a building on the
edge of this courtyard, and I have just quick loaded
because I know this nazis about to turn around and

(01:09:26):
see me. And as I'm getting to the top of
these stairs to get into a building, I just hitch
on the last step while I'm crouched, so I have
to stand up in order to walk through the door. He,
unlike Trump, does not know how to use doors in
this game sometimes, so I then reveal myself and I
don't have any other choice. I have a choice. I
could go around, but I'm just being stubborn. So that's
not the game's fault. But yeah, it's just I'm getting

(01:09:47):
caught on geometry in a way that reminds me of
like Assassin's Creed Unity. Maybe not that bad, but bad enough.
Where in a stealth game, in a sniper game game
about precision, Yeah, you don't want like in a stealky
if you get discovered, you want to feel like you
fucked up, not the game. Yeah, So again, I don't know.
I don't know if there's a Day one patch that's

(01:10:08):
that will have been out today. Other than that the
game's running smoothly, like really well, it's you know, it's
it's good otherwise, but if you're expecting anything other than
a big expansion pack, which if you're like me, that's
you're fine with that because you like Sniper Leet five
so much, you might be disappointed. But it's it's good
so far.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Now, what advancements have they made to enemies balls?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I have not shot anybody in the balls yet. I did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
However, Amanda bash, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Hear me out. I did not tell Amanda the the
gimmick in that game. So I was like, watch, we
shoot this Nazzi in the head, and there's a sniper
up in this bell tower across town, and I I
triple check that there was no one that would hear
my gunshot from where I was, which is the best
feeling ever when you actually pull it off, and then
all of a sudden it's slow motion. She's like, oh,

(01:11:01):
it's like a Michael Bay kind of slimmo. And then
all of a sudden it goes into his head and
then the skull gets the X ray.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
She's like, a, yeah, it's video games.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
So funny too, because like it is like a very
well thought out game, but ultimately, like these compilations that
I made on game Spot, We're all ball Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
It was like top ten Ballbusters, Sniper Leaf.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
That's the best. That was me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
I turn it to the easiest setting, no enemy vision anything,
no one knows they're blind, they're deaf, and they all
have just balls that are not ruptured yet. That's how
I said every setting, and then I just go ball hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Going on a ball hunt.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
That's that whole series. To me. I played like five
of those games just hunting balls.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I'm always hunting balls. I think that that game is
so funny and it is gimmicky in that sense, but
that's also excellent marketing, right, Like, I don't know how
many people would genuinely be like I know exactly what
game that is. But when you say Sniper Elite, everyone's like, Oh,
that's the one where you can shoot them in the
balls and it shows like the X ray of their balls.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Exploded and they do like DLC of like Hitler's Retreat
and it's like, oh, he's at his vacation chateau and
it's like peterful and swim trunks with like a drink
and sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
They're gonna shoot him his nuts. Yeah, you know what
they're selling. Hitler is on vacation in this matter.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Yeah, balls are about to be on vacation from his
fucking scroed him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I'm about to send him and Eva both on vacation
to Hell. Yeah but no, I mean it's again. If
it's it's exactly what you expect, just some rough edges
Right now, I'm still enjoying it. Yeah, I I some
of the level design from that team is up there
with the best dishonoreds and Hitman's uh sniper leet five

(01:12:56):
the Chateau St. Michelle one. Did you play that game? Five?

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I think so they've got Yeah, Grub did the co
op thing where we're both hunting Hitlers together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Co Op is super fun in those games. It's got
the causeway into the town like off the Coast. It's
it's an actual place. But that mission is amazing. That
you go up the hill to the church. That's that
ranks right up there with Clockwork mansion and cracking the
slab from dishonor too for me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
When you are exploring these levels, Mike and France, do
you frequently think about wine?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Okay, all right, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
I actually have been doing this thing in video games.
When I see there's a wine model and a seller
or something, I look at what they did with the label. Yeah,
there's no labels on these ones.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
What is the twisted metal to Paris level where you
can blow up the Eiffel Tower and make you think
of wine wise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
And the nineteen forty seven Bordeaux.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Oh yep, me too, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
The legendary vintage. Yeah, naturally twisted metal would remind me
of it. Yeah, but another you can they there's several
different wine bottles they use in Black Op six in
the Casino heist mission. You can look at those. They
did some pretty good label work.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Leo Vader did a video once where I think it
was a it might have been Rainbow six Siege where
he went around to all of the like food and
drink and all the levels and like just did a
deep dive on like here's this wicker basket of beans,
here's this label of this wine thing, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Like, what an interesting take?

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
What was the take?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Just look at this food.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
It's not a take. Just look at this stuff I
looked at.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
I've been like a long time since I saw it.
I'm sure it's smarter, and I'm describing it. I just
really Leo's great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Leo cool your jets, dude, We're not ready for this
kind of fucking opinion right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
It had to be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Pored to it than that, because I remember thinking like
this is genius.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Uh yeah, no, I'm sure it was. For the record,
I'm not making fun of Leo and making fun of you.
Leo's work is amazing, and then people should be familiar
with it. If they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yes, his hip.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Man stuff is always well, you guys did stuff together.
The challenges to I think about that game World Assassination,
those games on a nightly basis.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
You should.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
We got to do like some sort of bonus contaent
with it. I don't give a fuck if we steal hits,
miss something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
That's I came up with that. It's sealing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I can do it with us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yeah, I want to do like that, which reminds me.
At the end of the episode, we have something to promo.
Speaking of uh, next Lander, I guess is the best
way to segue Dan, what else you're playing?

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
I started playing Blade Chimera, which I've been on a
real Metroid Vania kick lately with the Dominant collection and
now Blade Camera. It's a kind of one of those
you know, it's that aesthetic where it's like, oh, you've
got guns and plasma guns and swords, and it's just like,
I don't know if you call it. It's definitely like
a sci fi metroid Vanya. And it's cool because you've

(01:15:58):
got square and circle. You can put weapons in each
of those. If you want a gun and the gun,
you can do that. If you want a gun and
a sword, you can do that an assault rifle, and
you know, you can decide what you want there close range,
far range, whatever. But then on triangle you have lux
which is this like spirit sword. I think like the
Skywrid sword, you know, turns into a lady. Sometimes it's
the sword and it has its own abilities. Wait what

(01:16:18):
are you laughing at?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
What? And oh, Skyward sword?

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I thought you a spirit in the sword? Yeah, okay, yeah,
it comes out and talks to you. Yeah, it's like yeah, fee,
It's like it's the sword that turn.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Into talking about tears of the Kingdom. And with those games,
you could have said that the sword can send out
a lady, and I would have believed you because there's
so much shit in that game I haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Seen sure, So like what no No sword turns into it's
a spirit sword that turns into a lady and and
she gets all sorts of abilities too, and it's got
that like Doom Eternal kind of like AMMO and health
economy where it's like if you kill with standard weapons
guns and swords, you get lux energy for your Spirit sword.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
If you kill with the Spirit Sword, you get health.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
And so it's just a lot of looking at your
bars up there and being like I need this, I
need this, I'll use this, I'll use that, and uh yeah,
unlocking different abilities extuft for the sword itself, which is
really cool. The sword can be a grappling hook. The
sword can turn into a thing that like can remember
in like singularity or that uh like remember you could
like reverse time like oh this box that got crushed
or it goes back in time and now it's like

(01:17:17):
that type of stuff, like reverting things from the past.
So like the Stoord, basically that triangle button has a
lot you can do, uh contextually, depending on where you're at.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
It's on sale or it's on sale right now in
a bundle with Bloodstained. Oh that's it's like generation of
metro Vania Bundle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Oh fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
If you haven't played Bloodstain, that's a no brainer because
Bloodstains I still with like Castlevanias.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Oh, it's it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I watched you play a lot for Giant Bombies, but
I haven't played.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
It's super good. But yeah, this is who I'm two
or three hours in now to this. I don't think
it's gonna be a super long one based on like
the map percentage of at now, but great boss fight.
It's good look to it kind of gets right into it.
Not a lot of exposition or anything like that, but
just I don't know, Like I feel like a lot
of Metroid Veaneas have similar aesthetics and everything, and I

(01:18:02):
think this handles the kind of like future sci fi
ish thing in a way that kind of looks like
its own and the spirit sorts stuff, like I really
like how that lux works.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
With your more traditional weapons. It's a it's a really
cool so far.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
It's a cool looking game. It honestly looks like at
a distance, the graphics themselves look like kind of the
background of a beat them up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Oh, I could see that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Yeah, it's a little like kind of Saturn era maybe,
like yeah, yeah. It's also got some quality of life
stuff where it's like, you know, all these metro venias,
it's so much like I need to find a saved
room where I'm gonna lose all this progress and level
ups I've been doing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
This one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
You can like fucking warp most anywhere on the map.
Like one of the first things you can unlock is
just like, yeah, just warp wherever you want to of
like places you've been to instead of like only using
special teleport rooms or you know, transit rooms or whatever.
But it's just been feels great, plays awesome on steam Deck.
I've only played with Unsteam Deck, but yeah, very much
enjoying it so far.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Oh it's great Soka.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
You can tell because of the roofs right, Like they
have that like classic Osaka roof tile set for a
lot of their styles. It looks really nice up the
boss fights looktrip too. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Those roofs are awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
Also, the thing you can do with the sword too
is like really cool platforming stuff where it's like if
you're jumping at a wall that doesn't have a ledge
you can jump onto. You can hold in why or
triangle to throw it into the wall and then climb
onto it, so you can kind of like make your
own little platform with a sword, or if you do
down in triangle, it like creates a little bubble around
you that'll project you against projectiles. So like there's just
a lot of different ways you can approach different fights

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and boss fights and everything. So just it feels really
cool planet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
What the fuck? Oh man, maybe you two would know
this is going to be the worst description ever. There
was this game I really liked. I fucking beat it.
I want to say it was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty.
It was really colorful side scrolling. I think it was
like a I don't know that it was a METROIDVNA.
I think you can assign you gather characters and then

(01:20:01):
you you assign them to each face button, so you're
fighting with one and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Then nobody saves the world.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
No. I love that game. I knew that game. It
was earlier than that. It was like a year or
two before. It'll come to me at some point, but basically,
you're fighting with one character, but then you press circle
and all of a sudden, the other character comes out
does their ultimate and it was like an indie game.
Ah man, I wrote about it, I think for Polygon,
but I wouldn't even know what to google to find it.

(01:20:28):
I'll figure it out. It's just something about the art
style here. The color palette reminded me of that game
which I really liked but forgot the name of Mary.
What else have you been playing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I was playing Dome Keeper. I was looking for a
tower defense or like something that I wanted something. So
this is not like a new game. This came out
a couple years ago and I never played it, and
I was looking for something that just allowed me to
have a simple premise.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
You never have like one of those nights where you're like,
I want to put on some crap on TV that
I'm not actually watching. I want to sit on my
couch and I want to play something on my Steam
deck that won't kill me if I'm not fully paying attention.
But I do want to like enjoy it. Okay, I
actually really like dome Keeper. Here's the concept. You are digging.
You're like digging into the earth to find raw materials.

(01:21:22):
The raw materials help you upgrade your digging, your flying,
and your carryability, which is also very important because then
you can carry more materials. But every like sixty seconds,
something attacks your dome, and so you got to hurry
back to your dome so that you can use a
laser to like laser them in the face and get
rid of them. Each wave gets slightly more difficult, so

(01:21:45):
you need to hurry up. The second the wave is over,
I'm like back down in the ground digging up more
raw materials. There's three different types of materials. There's like
gold or I think they've been calling it or but
like let's be real, it's like essentially like just currency one.
And that helps you get stuff like buying a better laser,
upgrading your character so that they can carry fly faster. Oh,

(01:22:08):
the drill needs to be stronger because as you progress outwards,
these are all procedurally generated. So the core part, like
as you're as you're starting out, that's like really loose
rock and you can get through it. But once you
get beyond that, you can't dig through that rocket takes forever,
so you need to upgrade your drill. That's all or
So your first currency. Second currency is usually some kind

(01:22:30):
of like I use it mostly to get health back,
so to repair a repair currency that comes in handy
because you is a brutal game and you get viciously attacked.
So there are so many times in this game where
I was like barely making it just by the scrape
of my teeth through like some of these horrible monster fights.

(01:22:53):
And then I would repair a bunch and go back
into the minds to dig for more crap. And then
the third currency I think is why, which is a
really interesting one, and that one helps with your defense,
so you can make your dome stronger, you can get
like nice quality of life things. The very first thing
I ever invested in was let me know when the

(01:23:13):
next monster attack is, which is great, just so you
don't forget to go and defend your dome when you
need to. By the end of this game, I want
to say, like games are anywhere from like thirty five
forty minutes to like an hour. Maybe I think they're
shorter than that, but generally, like it's just a nice

(01:23:34):
slice of completing a game. You have to get further
and further into the minds, upgrade your character, and then
before you know it, you like uncover an ancient artifacty
type thing, you gotta dig that shit out. You have
to turn it on. So you have to like dig
out all the batteries and shit and turn them on.
And then when you do that, you can take that
bad Boy home and then you like, you get a

(01:23:56):
giant wave of monsters. If you can survive the giant
wave of monsters, you win. It's so electric. I actually
fucking love it. I can't believe I never played it before.
I don't know how I stumbled across this bad Boy,
but like, I'm obsessed with Domekeeper because I really like
the dynamic of digging and like upgrading my character, but
also being like I gotta get home because the flying
fuckers are gonna come and kill my dome. It's really good.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
I feel like every time someone's subscribed this game to me,
and in the last few years, I feel like so
many people have recommended it. It always sounds very interesting
and sounds like something that I would personally like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
A lot, and I think you would fucking love it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
I think I would, And I think that every time
someone's recommended it to me, I've just had other stuff
like piled up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Now that it's kind of a light, you know, time
of year right now, maybe a light Well, I guess
that's why I'm playing Red Dead too, so maybe want
something with that. Hopefully it'll still be light. But I
haven't meet. I've had a note on my phone to
check this out for like I feel a couple of
years now. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
I mean I think it's great on Steam Deck, so
if like that helps in any way. I think it's
like an easy game on the go. It's an easy
game on the couch. I say easy to like pick up.
It's a very difficult to play game. It has four
levels of difficulty. The game tells you play it on brutal,
don't play it on normal, don't play it on hard,

(01:25:12):
play it on brutal. That's what the game tells me
to do. So that's what I did. I die a lot.
I do not survive this game quite often. It has
really good end game as well, so like after you
like win for the first time, they're like, here's some upgrades.
Now we're really mixing it up. Every time you win,
it lets you uncover a new Uh. I guess you're
a domed defender, So like you get a new defender

(01:25:34):
and there's like a guy who's like magic and he
can like I don't know, he carries things differently, and
he can like change gravitational pull whatever. There's different domes.
There's one that instead of a laser, it's a fucking sword,
and so I have to manually raise the sword and
drop it on monsters to kill them. And I can
also shoot the sword with like a cord on the

(01:25:56):
end of it to kill the flying monsters. That's pretty fun.
There's different ways to play. So the one that I
was telling you, the generic one that's called Relic Hunter,
you're getting a relic that's deep inside the earth. But
there's lots of different ways to play. They have ones
where they're just like get two hundred or before time
runs out, and there's ones that are like, instead of
giving you a wave of monsters every minute, we're not

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gonna do a wave of monsters for eighteen minutes. Then
we're gonna fucking blast your ass with like eighteen rounds
of monsters at once, which is really fun to prepare for.
I've I've been playing it a lot. I've been kind
of enjoying the different challenges that this game has given me.
I will say, like at some point, I get a
little tired of mining. It's the same old, same old.

(01:26:41):
But like, if you're looking for a monotonous game that
tells you to mind shit and upgrade your character and
then fight monsters, this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
I'd like the act of digging in games like Same
World Digs, Flucky Dig Dug, like a drill dozer Minecraft,
Like there is something very satisfying about just like I'm
just gonna dig here for a while. You're right, those
are the perfect games to just like I've got something
on in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Yeah, it's pretty mindless. And it's also a roguelike, so
like if you're playing it before bed and you fucking die,
then you're like, all right, well I'm going to bed now,
Like there's nothing to get really that upset about. Similar
to Splunky, right, Like you were like, do a round
a Splunky and you just kid absolutely annihilated. You're not mad,
You're just like, well it happens, and then you can
then you you play again or you quit. And this

(01:27:23):
is what this game makes me feel. Like I've never
like died in this game and been like this is
such bullshit. Like a kid, it's just like, oh well
that sucks. I lost twenty minutes. I guess I'll just
do it again, and you just do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
You just do.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
That's one of the great things about Rogue Lights, is
it do you have these very sectioned off just like
I got one more run in me. Let's see how
this goes? Like I just naturals stopping points in Rogue Lights.
I love that I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Got thirty minutes to kill. I don't want to call
my family. I'm three beers deep. Let's go, I really did.
I do think this game is well designed. You can
tell that they've they've clearly thought about mechanically, like how
precious these resources are. But because again it's procedurally generated,
you never know exactly what vane you're going to hit.

(01:28:05):
So you might desperately want purples, which are the ones
that help you like repair, but you keep getting gold
and you're like, this is just bullshit. You might just
have an unlucky run where it takes you ages to
find the relic. I've Also, the game starts on I
think small mode, and so the area that you're digging
is not very big. That is small, and then as

(01:28:28):
you as soon as you win one round, it expands
to medium and big. The big minds are fucking ungodly big.
It's really fun to be like, I can't there's no
way I'm gonna be able to find where this relic is.
It's it's really cool to like min Max, you're digging
and be like, I gotta find this relic probably in
the next five rounds or I will die. So like, yeah,

(01:28:48):
it's I've really enjoyed it thoroughly. I don't think it's
like it has like this insane long like I don't
know if I'll play it forever or anything like that.
I don't think it's like the next Pialatro or anything,
but I have. It has taken up a lot of
my weekend and I have absolutely adored it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
I really need to get around to that at some point,
because again, every time it comes up, I'm like, that
sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yeah, I hope you do it. I hope you. I
hope you uh watch Barbarian and play dome Keeper and
report back because they're great.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Barbarian is a likely one sooner.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
I think Domekeeper I've been putting off because there's new
stuff and everything, But like I think we do movie
night every week.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
We all bring it up with bunk.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Cool Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
How is Donkey Kong Country Returns?

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
I've always been a huge defender of that game when
it came out on the Wii. I mean, the one
big complaint was that, like to do the role, which
is a thing you do all the fucking time in
those games, you had to do the waggle because it
was on Wei. And then they put it on three DS,
and it's like, Okay, great, I can do the role
with a button like I want to, But it's not.
It's chained to three DS and a tiny screen and
all that. So now it's this game that I've I've

(01:29:57):
long thought was one of the best platformers I've played.
It's certainly two D platformers I've played that it looks good,
it's on the switch, I don't have to do motion bullshit.
It's it's just a tremendous game that I think it
reviewed well and everything. But I don't hear people talk
about as much as I feel they should. Fantastic platformer
holds up very very well. Yeah, still loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Soundtracks still good, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Yeah, always great. I think I think it's the best.
I think it is the best game with Donkey Kong
in the title.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Donkey Kong Country from so wait, sorry, this is the
Is it a really remaster of the one on the
Wii or the original Super Nintendo?

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
No, no, it's it's the Donkey Kong Country Returns the
Wei game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Ah gotcha? Okay, not Donkey Kong Country.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Which on the Wii. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
I thought it was the best game with Donkey Kong
in the title, and I like Donkey Kong. I like,
I'm not like obsessed with the series gameplay. I think
the character is hilarious for the best thing ever. Well everyone, yeah,
I mean you don't even say that, but I mustn't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Stout playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Is it co op?

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
In fact, me, there was a winter break when it
first came out that I took it home and me
and Katie and Kayla, my sisters, we traded off like
our teams, and it was just like a whole night
of us. We made a whole drinking game around it,
and it was just this crazy, like eight hour night
of us just screaming and passing the controllers back and forth,
and it was like a super duper fun because like
it's like mind cart levels that are super hard at

(01:31:26):
the end, and oh shit, I fucked up, and so
now don Key Kong's dead. Kayla, you're Diddy Kong. You
it's on you. We don't have any fucking balloons or anything.
You gotta do this like super stressful fun, like it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I haven't played a good platformer in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Me neither. I feel like I'm due for like a
good platformer, and I love co op platformers, and I
think those are good. Co op platformers are hard to find.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
I keep thinking about a blue Sky posts I saw
from you know, Jake Steinberg from Kataku.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Yeah, I saw him post that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
He was like, uh, because he's a younger guy and
I've met him at the night shows that we do
a giant bom. We fed him on the couch a
couple of times, and he said something like boy, games
industry or games media old heads will glaze platformers just
for existing. I was like, yeah, I don't even know
what he was referred to. I mean this was like

(01:32:25):
like a few weeks ago, so I think it's past
astrobot and I remember seeing that being like, yep, yeah,
he's right. I think we all just came up like
guys that are like forty and above we're just we
remember Mario and that's when we fell in love with games,
and now it's just platformers being around.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
We're like hell yeah, And I was like, yeah, you're
not wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah I disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, I like jumping on stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
One of the best games ever made, though, Astrobot.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
That's true. Are you being sarcastic?

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Yeah, yes, very much.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
So you don't think it's one of the best games
I ever made?

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
No, uh sure, extremely well crafted platformer. I have nothing
to add that I didn't already say on the episode
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
If I had tiles on it, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Well then that would be a different story.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Would blow into the controller? No, you don't blow into
the controller. That was the we you and the three DS.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
You got to shake the controller.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
You don't really know. That's not a gimmick, it's just
a great plan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
There's no sprinkles all over the ice cream levels.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
So many fun fetties on the level.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
I could double jump in time twiles compete with Jeff
week one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
There's no double jump I can.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
You're saying a bunch of inaccurate things about one of
the best games of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
You can double jump with the feet.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Rockets okay it certain items power ups will give you abilities, yes,
but Astrobot cannot double jump, he can hover.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
These items are not gimmicks at all. The great gameplay innovations.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
And there they really have constructed brilliant character designs, like
all the other games from PlayStation that they've just shoved
in here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
I like PlayStation from the nineties, so I like when
they call back to it. I used to jack off
to Laura Croft and this reminds me of that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Yeah, that's why I like Estra.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
But I'm an Astrobot.

Speaker 6 (01:34:21):
God.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
That's why Mark liked it too. I enjoyed that game,
but it wasn't that good. Why are you playing Crimson
Skies the x punishment?

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Yes, the Xbox game. It's my punishment from Mike Manatti.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
What's a punishment?

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
We did a charity race for La Wildfire Relief on
last Friday as of this recording, where four of us, Me, Grubb, Sean,
and Manati raced in Bowser's Fury Uh to see who
could beat it from beginning to credits in one sitting
and Manati one and we decided like it was just
such a positive experience. It's positive stream and everything and

(01:34:59):
we're like, oh, we want to have a fun so
like the winner gets to pick homework games for the
three losers. And the deal is it's like it's not
a blake club thing where it's like it's a bad
game or it's a punishment or whatever where you have
to stream all this on your own time. It's you
play it however you want to, but it's got to
be a game that's not super long and that you
really like that you're giving to someone who has never

(01:35:19):
played it before. So you know, Grub hasn't played Grim Fandango,
so that's what he's playing. And for me, he gave
Crimson Skies because he thought I would like it, and
sure enough, I like it a lot. It's very much
reminds me of that old kind of tistbox. Yeah, yeah,
I can't remember if it was a launch game or not,
but I just love like I love those only a twist,
The Metal Warhawk. You know these games where it's like,

(01:35:40):
all right, you're just a vehicle like an arena where
it's totally a rogue squadron type thing where it's like
here it's this area and just fly around and you
have certain objectives, like there's a weird amount of variety
in it, like like twist the metal and stuff. It
was always just like, hey, kill all these cars, this
has kill all these planes, but also deliver this fragile thing.
You know, here's a gyrocopter. You're gonna deliver this fragile

(01:36:00):
thing through a canyon. You got to protect this plane.
You got to escort this zeppelin. But you can also
man the turrets on the zeppelin and flip. Like, there's
a fun amount of variety here that I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Several playable characters, right, I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
It's characters as much as planes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Like I'm always the same dude, but like I am
unlocking new planes, and you earn cash, and like there's
collectibles and that let you unlock new upgrades and stuff.
So yeah, it's fun like finding the plane that works
with your style the most, and the controls work fairly
well for a game that's, you know, over twenty years old.
Looks fine. It's very very backwards compatible on Xbox. It's
on game Pass. I heard I had great Xbox Live support,

(01:36:39):
one of the early early Xbox Live games. But I've
just been doing single player and yeah, absolutely, I've really
really been liking it, so and I like this idea
of the punishment because I'm so used to like, Okay,
the winner gets to pick this tortuous, fucking horrible thing
that the loser has to do, and this is like,
oh we got this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
When would I have played this otherwise?

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
And now I've got this homework assignment like it, So
it's like, oh, this is this is a fun way
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
So who came up with punishment that seems like a
minati situation?

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
He might have come up with the term.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
I don't remember how we got to It was just
one of those natural things where we were talking about
it and we all kind of wound up there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
So, yeah, we should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
At some point. Sign me a game. Well I probably
won't play it, but you could. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
We tried with Mary, but then she just played a
totally different game.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah, blamed us for recommending a game that we don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
I thought we hadn't moved on as a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
From this the last episode.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
You got bragging rights, though, go forward in your life.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
We're trying to give you a punishment.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
I yeah, we did as you or I had between worlds,
as I tend to do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Yeah, play Link between Worlds.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Play Link between Worlds. It's really good, really really really good.
Top five Zelda Skyward Sort Mary. Have you played all
of the Middle Girl Solids O Skyward Sword.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Yeah, I haven't played it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Oh my god. You streaming Medal Year would be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
I love watching people play Medal Year solid that I
have not played it because it's just so fucking bad shit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
I would love if you played that and then we
get your reports. Do a report.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yes, she sounds so enthused.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
I mean there's a lot to talk about with that series.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
To be like, I feel like I'd have to find
like a real like open time to play that dealing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yeah, I mean they're not controls. Yeah, people struggle with
the controls if they come back to it now. I
mean most of.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Those games eight hours. Yeah, they're not crazy long.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
At some point doing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Well, you an hour or you got to do before
episode one hundred, because you're gonna be hearing a lot
about Metal Year during that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
I don't owe you ship, No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
You should have played the game we already suggested.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Yeah, I've got Yeah. Next time we recommend something, don't
just go off into the wilderness. And play something we
said don't play.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
This one, I think I've played. I played this one
because it has the worm that you hit the tail.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Well, that's a common thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
What are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
That's the link to the past Muldos or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Oh no, the guy who you rent the items from,
and that's a rabbit. Oh that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Yeah, mold Orm is what I'm thinking of. The sword
or the worm he's got, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
I love the Hamburg.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Yeah, he's a fun Hamburg.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Yeah yeah, God switch to just needs Twilet Princess and
Winwaker and I'm there. Well I'm there anyway, but like
I really want Yeah, they're both good. I like Toilet
Princess too, but like, uh, the beginning really is very
very slow, and also it's got a lot of arbitrary gating,
like oh, this bridge is broken, so you got to
go back and talk to that character from back there,

(01:39:55):
and then you've got to sumo wrestle the Mayor, and
then you gotta a lot go back and talk to Sorrow. Yeah,
because you did that knock arena. We got a call
back to.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
That when we're having just played Windwaker in the last year.
That holds up extremely Well, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Even better now with the new sailing and map and
updated uh travel anybody else play? Aything else?

Speaker 7 (01:40:15):
Mary?

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
You played Spiro when you're sick?

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
I got sick this weekend, three day weekend, and I
didn't feel good and I needed a comfort game, so
I downloaded Spiro blamed. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
It's really nice. It's just basically like all the things
you like about Spiro, but it's delicately upgraded with nicer
graphics and it it feels great. The controls feel just
like when I was a kid. I kind of forgot.
I don't know if you guys played. Did you guys
both play Spiro?

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Kayla?

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Kyla was obsessed with it, and I remember I was like, game, well,
that's the thing. I was like a teenager, and so
I'd see Caleb, Oh, this is some shitty, you know,
kitty dragon game thing whatever. And then the Regnited trilogy
comes out and I play it. I'm like, Oh, I
fucking love all these games.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
This is great.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Yeah, they're really good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I would say, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
It's simple, right, Like you're a baby dragon who can
kind of fly but not really, and you got to
get all of the gemmys and they hide them in
like hard to platform places. So but if you're stupid
or like not good at games, you can just not
get those. You don't have to hundred percent the levels.
So it's nice as an adult to go back to
it and be like this actually was kind of tough

(01:41:35):
to get to these little areas, like they've hidden everything,
but if you don't feel like figuring it out, you
just don't do it and you just move on and
get the other dinosaurs or whatever they are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
You just I love that about platformers of that era,
Like you know, like Mario sixty four is like, look,
if you want to do one hundred and twenty stars, yeah,
I have a blast. But if you hate Hazy May's cave,
don't fucking go there and just get your star somewhere else,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Greial loser. I think it's great that they've like casually
let you decide how in you want to be, and
so yeah, it's it's been really nice. I'm very early
on in, but like as a sick couch game, I
was loving it, So yeah, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
I did notice. Yeah, you were on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
I say, you do some stories where you're watching old
Simpsons and I would like, look at the same deck
screen as course she's playing Spiro.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Yeah, I inspiral, like I think it's Spiro.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I was watching my favorite seasons as well.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
So I was watching like Dalmatians one the Domination that's
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
And the one where Homer goes to clown College. Like really,
they make me laugh, they make me so happy, they're
so funny. And I was doing that in Spirro and
I think so I posted those and I saw someone
DM and be like, you know how to do mental
health better than anyone I know. I was like, I
think that's true. Like I when I don't feel good,

(01:42:56):
I'm like, I'm sitting on this couch, I'm making a tea.
I'm getting my dog who will always loyally like sit
in my lap when I'm not well. I think you
have one of those two by the dog who's just like,
what are you not good? I will behave your side.
I will not move from this spot because you need
me and I just.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Want me tucked under your arm. I can just stay
here all day. What do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I will sit there. He's such a good boy, and
I will watch old Simpsons and I'm happy, and that
is a great place for me to just mentally and
physically repair and damn it, I am back. So yeah,
that was such a good doctor's orders. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Hell yeah, yeah, I play fire Emblem when I'm sick.
Something about it. It's just enough, like requires just enough
brain power to sort of like be cognizant. But then
also there's like the satisfying character building and the tactics
and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
The tactics yet yes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I'm like, I need deep tactics.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
When you jump on some turtles and sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
No, that makes menous, That makes me naucious. Want do emails, jure. Okay,
we are going to get to emails. But before that,
and before we get to the end of the episode,
we do have a couple of upcoming fun stuff to
tell people about. Firstly, this is episode ninety nine, and
for all you math nerds out there, next episode will

(01:44:21):
be one hundred. Oh yeah, Okay, we've referenced it several times,
but now we can officially say episode hundred is not
going to be a normal format. We are going to
be doing a sixty four game bracket tournament to battle
out and decide what is fire Escape Casts Collective, or rather,
whoever can argue best what is our best game of

(01:44:44):
all time? So we all basically nominated twenty five games each.
Obviously there's going to be some overlap, especially with Red
Dead two being so high on DAN lists along with
Holli Night. We're gonna figure out nix any the doubles
and then maybe bring in a few like honorable mentions
that almost made it, just to make the show more interesting.

(01:45:07):
But Mary's putting together a bracket. We're gonna do it
in the sense that we don't know. We're gonna randomize
the first round, so it could be like Bloodborne versus
Hollow Night, which would be seeded.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
Yeah, not seated at all. It's gonna be totally random.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
And I've already set the tone that I am not
going to undo it if you're like, that's not fair,
because these are both games that I really like.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Tough no, no, no, it's whatever. However the dice fall, and
then we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Speaking to you. I'm just saying the rules. I'm going
to be in the bracket and they're going to be constructed,
and if you don't like it, like that's that, that's
not my problem.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
You are furnaces responding to your anger. Because my furnace
kicked on as soon as you got mad at me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
I don't think that me and that furnace are related,
but I do think that my blood pressure rises every
time I hear that fucking whistle coming out of your
stupid bye wear a sweater. You're wearing a T shirt
is January?

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
I'm inside.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Yeah, any he's got the furnace on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
The dead of winner in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
It just happens to sound like a grieving Eagle who
lost its cubs.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
That's our football team, the Minnesota grieving Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Someone squeezing the life out of a small chinchilla.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Yeah, yeah, it happens herea but yeah, that'll be episode
one hundred. It'll be on the normal schedule, so it'll
be what February third, tenth, We'll have that up episode hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Just so everybody knows how we got to this list
of sixty four is. I asked the boys to put
together a list of their top twenty fives.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
That just gives a ballpark.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
I'm repeating it, And I recently checked this list of
all of the games, and Mike put games on my
list that I did not run. And I'd like to
read some of these.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
That I did not do that. You wrote all these.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
I did not write these.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Appropriate like I would like for radio.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That's on you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Yeah, you put them down, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
Get the bee button potentially ready.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
So for our top twenty five, I wrote half Life, two,
Hollow Night, they should shock No. One Years of War,
and then all of a sudden, Mike Tyson's punch out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Oh yeah, I did not put that. I did not
put that by the great, great big Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
I left my heart in the Pacific Northwest. That's not
a game.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Yeah it is. You wrote it. Take it up with Yeah,
you we know you love it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
As Boy goes to Dumb Town.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
That one is good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
It was the classic sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Four lobster sniper.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Yeah, you got to taste so far.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
They have really good ball physics and lobsters. Heard that.
I've heard that Revenge of the Frog, prins Ass Boy
goes to dump down three Midnight Noctors.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Right, you didn't like two. It was like a Devil
May Cry situation.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
I really was a step back. Yeah, they got back
on track with three. Return to form.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Yeah, some of these are personal.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Grenades that explode into bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Little violent, but that's that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Yeah. I started as a flash game, but they they
actually made a like a full game.

Speaker 8 (01:48:32):
We Yeah, Blanket Simulator. I would really like that game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Blanket Simulator remake. Oh yeah, Baking Saga twenty two Nights
of Pumpkin Pie.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
I have not seen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Yeah, really looking forward to arguing and ringover Baking Simulator Saga.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
You guys are bad friends.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
I didn't do this. It's the first time I'm seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
He left blank spaces. What was I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
Baking Saga Reflex two point five x D two D.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
We almost gave that worst title of the year a
few years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Yeah, Oh my god. Oh this is a nice one,
solid night nice.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Yeah, like that drunk Gymnast Physics.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
It's the spiritual successor to Mount your Friends.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Yeah, Junior Year returned to Cincinnati. It's very close. Dare
help My French bulldog thinks he's a member of the
Viet Cong.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
It was a really specific indie game that someone made,
really good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Yep, got DLC for Razor my dog.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Yeah, he's he's an American soldier with a flamethrower.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Oh the horror.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Portland series Portland Stories part four. It's just disrespectful to
my home.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
It really came together in the fourth game.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
Puzzle game with really innovative mechanics.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Oh yeah, I remember that. That was good. Are there
any Are there any more good ones?

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Hell Divers too easy mode? Only this one was surprising
NBA two K twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah, yeah, that was just yeah the time my.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Phone is at the bottom of the will Lammett But
I still have so many friends to text.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Yeah that's good, You're an asshole. Game was good, but yeah,
episode one hundred. So those who knows which one of
those will be duking it out with some of mine
or some of Dan's. And again, who's to say there's
gonna be brack many brackets where one of Dan's games
pops up against one of Mary's. It's not about our
games winning, it's about arguing whatever the two happened to

(01:51:14):
be at that moment, all the rest of the brown
games into the background.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
No, we're gonna determine fire Escape's best game of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Yes, yes, it's not a competition, well I mean literally
as a tournament, but like.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
It's it's our collective choice.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Though it's gonna be I'm gonna laugh if marry, all
of your games go up against one another and you
have we we just have to listen to you argue.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Me having to argue all these metal years and Marios
against each other.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Oh yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah, but yeah, that'll be
episode one hundred and then one last thing some last
minute not last minute, some final details are still coming together.
But We've got a fun bonus series planned that I'm
gonna be doing with Vinnie Caravella from Nextlander.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
That's so good, what a good group.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Yeah, I love Vinnie.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I don't love Vinnie. Could you imagine someone who comes
up to you and they're like, we have all the
same things. I think we're gonna be great friends. Just
one thing, I hate Vinnie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
Awesome and except the gossipy, ass drama filled industry of
games media, Vinnie Caravella is one of one of the
only people I've ever met that I've never heard anyone
say anything bad about.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
We're actually all bad people except for Vinnie.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Yeah, Vinnie is beloved by all, and for good reason.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Yes, yeah, he has been wanting. He grabbed basically the
Total war Warhammer trilogy on sale, so basically it's generally
going to work where we're doing two separate camp co
op campaigns, one of which fire Escape. If you're already
a eight dollar tier patron, you're signed up, you can
watch this. We're gonna do u in our off weeks.

(01:52:53):
We're gonna publish one episode at a time, like one
hour a time, where Vinnie and I are playing a
good quote unquote campaign as like some of the Order
Forces they're called it in Warhammer. I'm gonna walk. I'm
gonna kind of be Vinnie's guru. And then if you're
already a patron for Next Lander there, I think they're
ten dollars tier, we're doing a separate campaign over there

(01:53:15):
as evil forces maybe orcs, maybe vampires, maybe vampire pirates. Basically,
I'm gonna be showing Vinnie the ropes while we do
a co op campaign. But if you're not a Next
Lander patron and you just want to stick to fire Escape,
you'll be able to see all the episodes of our campaign.
I don't know why. If you are you listen to Firescape,
but you're a Next Lander patron, you don't need to

(01:53:36):
come and be a patron for us. You'll see that
whole campaign. But if you want to see both of them,
and see like me and Vinnie hanging out, or hear
me and Vinnie hanging out playing a game that I
talk about too much, but people here tune out when
I talk about it. Then come see what I'm raving about.
We're aiming for mid February, mid to late February, we'll say.
Once we get closer, we'll give final details so people know,

(01:53:57):
just especially with the subscription pricing now with Patreon, if
you want to like plan the data sign up before
it goes live, we'll be sure to publish that. But anyway,
onto emails. We have a shit ton of emails in
our inbox. Thank you everybody, keep those coming.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Yeah, thank you for doing that again.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
This firescape cast at gmail dot com. For any questions
you want read on the air, We've got several tonight
as usual, Dan, I think this one actually makes sense
for you to take from Wayne.

Speaker 4 (01:54:31):
I was muted, all right, from Wayne. I have to
assume the subject line was Macgrueber. Is that the case
because I don't see it in the body.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Okay, that's so funny, But the body of the email
just what a great recommendation and movie, And Dan is like, well,
this is obviously macgober it has.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
To be ya Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
After years of listening specifically to Dan throughout the years,
I finally decided this past week to finally watch this movie.
I don't remember the last time I laughed so much
and so hard at a movie. So I'm wondering if
you all have more suggestions of movies like this, Wayne.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
I'm so glad to hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
I think like people probably assume it's like a bit
because if I always bring it up, like no, it's
as legitimate as it gets. It's my favorite comedy of
all time by a long shot.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Looks at it now and she she's got a pretty
like she she was laughing like I've never heard her
laugh that hard.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
It's the hardest I've ever laughed at a movie. It's
the movie I've seen the most by far. Yeah, there's
a reason I talk about all the time. Wayne, I
would say, I don't think there's any beating mcgroober, But
the first one that I think of is by a
lot of the same people.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Fortunately, you've peaked. There's nothing better than Kruber. Dan said, you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Can stop watching movies. You can't.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Yeah, if you're looking at like it says do you
have any more suggestions of movies like this because you
said that, Wayne, I would say pop Star because it's
like the Lonely Island guys.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
I think this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
A Kiva might direct pop Star and Doorma Yorma directed mcgroober.
But it's definitely the like Lonely Island sensibilities and things
like that. Pop Stars obviously heavier in the like Samberg
type stuff where they brought it in Will Forte for
uh mcgroover, But pop Star is insane, very funny.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
It's I think pop Star.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
Won't age as well as mcgroober because pop Star does
rely on a bunch of you know, stars of the day.
When what was it like twenty twelve or twenty thirteen
when it came out.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Actually now that I thing. But I bet like Ditty's
in that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
I bet it's like a lot of like oh it
was like mcgroober is pretty much just like holds up
extremely well. Pop Star is very funny. I know a
lot of people would say hot Rod because again it's
that like Lonely Island style.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
I liked hot Rod. I only saw that one time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
It's more so funny it is the rest of their
stuff Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
Yeah, nothing's hit like mcgrober for me, But I would
say pop Star if you're looking for like that vibe
of comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Yeah, it's it's not the exact same kind of comedy,
but where you get in the sense that you get
a big cast of people that are all just like
in on it and going hard on the humor or
the specific kind of humor. If you haven't seen What
Hot American Summer, that is very dumb humor in many ways.

(01:57:09):
I still think that What Hot American Summer is worth
watching today, and it's got you know, if you haven't seen,
it's Bradley Cooper, Amy Poehler, Paul Rudd, Michael Ian Black,
David Wayne directed it. But it's it's like The Role
Model's Crew back when I think they were still very funny.
Now there's the prequel and Squel series on Netflix, which

(01:57:30):
I actually find both very funny as well. But What
Hot American Summer has like a similar dumb humor, although
some of that that most of that humor is actually dumb.
Were mcgruber is like really intelligent jokes that are told
in a dumb way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:45):
Yeah, mcgroober is simultaneously incredibly smart, incredibly stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Another person I would really recommend is Edgar Wright, who
is a filmmaker who makes a lot of spoof or
like kind of joke style films that are just excellent,
most known for shan of the Dead, but the trilogy
of they're not in the same universe. It's the same
character actors of like Shawna the Dead, Hot Fuzz, and

(01:58:11):
World's End are all excellent, very funny films and they're
just so well made. And I also think like Edgar
Wright is brilliant for visual comedy, so he's not just
it's not just the jokes of the characters being idiots,
but it's like Edgar Wright is doing visual commentary that
is so enjoyable for comedy. And I just I really

(01:58:33):
recommend Edgar Wright for anyone who's like I just want
to laugh and watch stupid people be stupid. And it's
just like watch Shanna the Dead. It's a brilliant film.
But like, if you like that, you'll like Hot Fuzz.
And if you like Hot Fuzz, you'll like World's End.

Speaker 4 (01:58:45):
So that's World End I never saw, but I did
love Shanna the Dead Hot Fuzz.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
I've been meaning to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
It's not as beloved, but it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
It's like it's funny. I love Hot Fuzz. I think
Hot Fuzz is the funniest of those three. He also
did Baby Driver and then Being an Anya Teller Joy
Last Night, soho, but which.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Is total deviation. It's not very that one's not very funny, but.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
It is funny. World's End is like extremely profound and
like a really well written story that caught me off
guard because again it is part of that trilogy. And
then you know, they all go back to their hometown
and there's the one guy who stayed there, and like
they're planning this pub crawl that they used to do
when they were younger, and it's a bunch of people
who've gotten older. I actually kind of I feel like
it would hit me even harder if I watch it now,

(01:59:27):
because I haven't watched it in four years. World's End
was phenomenal. I gotta go back to that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
I'm glad. I think that it's really I mean, Edgar
Wright is such a brilliant filmmaker of our time, and
I do I think that they are obviously appreciated, but
I think generally we just don't think of him when
we think of like brilliant filmmakers. I think he's I
think he's genius, but maybe he does get the credit.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
I don't know now he's I think like I rewatched
Baby Driver recently, which is not as much of a comedy.
I like that a lot more. The second time I did,
I did.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Not like it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
I rewatched it and holy Ship, like it's infectious the
energy to it, And now that I knew what I
was getting into, I was like, I'm just going to
enjoy this on a visual purely visual and like musical
soundtrack sense. Kevin Spacey being in like a prominent role
is not super fun, but like it's a really well
made movie.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Although John Ham's chastly. They just lived life.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
And speaking of that, I did look up the cameo
list on pop Star because I was like, what is
Diddy in that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
And no, what is that?

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Largely not canceled.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
It's like oh Big Boy and Nas and Questlove and
Seal and the Riza, Like, yeah, nobody canceled that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
I see here, so don't uh that like.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
Twitter account or whatever is like did the Dog Die?

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Which, oh yeah, is Didy in?

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
It is Diddy in?

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
It is like the New one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
There's like how to beat dot Com for video games.
That's how long till Diddy dot Com?

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen was in puff Star. I don't
know that at all. Change weird.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
Okay, yeah, good, good, good films.

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
There you go. Well, thank you, Wayne.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Ah Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
Okay, I'll read this one. Actually, no, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
You would be so good as like the host of
Hollywood Squares.

Speaker 1 (02:01:30):
I'll read this one.

Speaker 4 (02:01:31):
If Mike get the game show hosting gig before me,
I'm gonna be pissed.

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
Who says, oh, I'm not. You make a good point, Oh, Dan,
I deserve everything that I ever wanted because so hard
I need to be a I can beat punch out.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
So if anyone gets as a job, it's me.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
I have fancy Vinyl floors, so I need to They're blessing.
We know. I'm owed everything.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
That's my catchphrase. I'm O everything, all right, High Fire
Escape Crew.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
Uhar, I'm not sure if I'm I'm not completely sure
if I'm pronouncing that. Apologies if I am. Butazar from
Scotland here just riding in to say that you auto
ride slash follow in Red Dead two when you switch
to the cinematic camera. This should also work when you
have a waypoint marker on the map. It's been a
while since I touched it, but I'm pretty sure it's there.
It makes the ridy talking bit's a bit more cinematic

(02:02:36):
and gives your hand arrest. Also, if you just hold
the sprint button when riding, not mashing, your horse will
evade trees and rocks. My question is, what is a
setting slash feature in a game that when someone told
you about it, made you play that game differently. It
didn't change my opinion of the game. I always loved
Returnal Jacob Geller someone told him about this mechanic and

(02:03:00):
he tweeted about it. There's an always sprint function in
that game where you don't ever walk because you don't
ever need to walk in that game, really yeah, and
you just anytime you move the ole stiction Selene sprints
And I was like, why it didn't necessarily, I just
didn't know it was there. It didn't make me play
the game differently. So it's not the best answer, but

(02:03:22):
that is a specific mechanic that happened semi recently. Outside
of that, though, I'm trying to think of something where
I either didn't know, like, holy shit, I played that
whole game, didn't realize that was a thing.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
I definitely had this a lot where it's like, oh,
make sure you turn on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
This, Yeah right now, we can also come back.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
It's nice.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Was stopping you from reading it? I worked on the
stock at noon today. You could have read it at
any point.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Isn't that during work hours?

Speaker 4 (02:03:54):
Michael?

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
It was, I swear to god, I was looking at
I was. I was writing too. We can come back
to it if we're on the spot, which is, we'll
come back to it, saysar. We will be back. So
just keep put that. Put that back in your noggin. Mary,
do you want to read this one from Marcel from
the Netherlands?

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
Sure? Hi there. Thank you for your bi weekly escapades
and escapism. You're welcome. Mike's raving review of the entirety
of what we do in the Shadows prompted me to
finally write in and ask a question I find. I
recently bought new headphones, specifically because of one of the
voice options has Matt Barry shouting noise canceling and.

Speaker 3 (02:04:40):
Power on HAU.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
Yeah, that's pretty good. He always has an inflection at
the end right, that's like his thing. Yeah, at the
press of a button. That alone was enough for me
to spend a couple of one hundred euros, even though
I already own a pair of headphones that are arguably better.
Was it worth it? Probably not? That I am happy, nonetheless,
so I'm wondering, what's the stupid thing you bought on

(02:05:05):
impulse which brings you joy to this day? Marcel from
the Netherlands, it's a good question.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
I feel like Dan's entire every.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
Everything that Dan owns it is stupid, ship provides joy.
Why don't you pick anything? Do you pick the closest
thing that's in your arms distance?

Speaker 3 (02:05:29):
There's just no this is all adult, normal stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
I what is that?

Speaker 4 (02:05:37):
It's an anti static wristband? Because it's shocking myself on
my treadmill.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
Gotcha? Oh does it have the metal where you can
hold it for your heart rate?

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
I don't know how to make it work, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
Okay, gotcha, that's useful. I don't have any like Macaroni sweatshirts.
I know you didn't buy those.

Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
I mean my xbox here is Bojangles branded, but yeah,
you didn't buy that. It's got to be an impulse
buy a lot of stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
Yeah, I so much stupid stuff. Name anything that you own.
This shouldn't be that complicated.

Speaker 4 (02:06:11):
I got that Kwan Chi framed photo, but that was
Walgreens had a free eight by ten print out.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Oh actually, I have perfect one. Amanda and I were
up in Syracuse seeing my family, and I forget why.
I think Amanda may have been just starting to get
sick because we were around eleven kids for the whole
weekend and we were at the train stations. Yeah, we're
at the train station in Syracuse, and she was just
not in a great mood because she wasn't feeling well.

(02:06:38):
We were at a train station in Syracuse, so I
was like, all right, I'll be here back. I'm gonna
go get us dunk Donuts across the platform. So I
go over there and there's this if you've been to
to this train station, anybody from up there, there's this
gift shop that's just the most insane room anywhere in
the world, full of imagine like a gift shop in

(02:06:59):
Midtown and New York with all the I love New
York hats, but also meets like there are bags of
caramel corn randomly hanging between all the hats. So I
just bought this flat brim baseball cap, all black, green brim,
and it just says Jamaica across it. And I came
back to Amanda on the other side of platform wearing
the hat, just to make her laugh. And now it

(02:07:21):
still hangs prominently in my closet and I.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
Still see it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
It wasn't an expensive thing.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
Sometimes it's like it's just a silly item that brings
you joy and that's its only purpose, and that's what
sometimes items are. I actually think we should normalize the
idea that you can buy something that isn't important and
it's not expensive, but it was something that it brought
you some joy. I like a state sailing. That's actually

(02:07:47):
something I intended doing as like a hobby. And I
often find myself searching for estate sales on like a
Saturday or Sunday morning, and I'll drive to a couple
of them and just see what kind of crap I
can find. And it's really fun when I find something
silly and stupid. I've been on a frog kick recently,

(02:08:07):
so I bought a frog container. It's got like twenty
frogs that are all just looking up and it looks
like they're praying.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
I bought it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
I got that in my house now. But one of
my recent finds that brings me a lot of joy
is I went to a person's house that was obviously
like really into cats. I love that at stay sales,
you'll be like, this guy was a giraffe guy, because
everything's a fucking giraffe. This person was a cat person
and their backyard was nothing but cat planters cat They
like shaved their bushes to look like cats. It's crazy.

(02:08:40):
And they had a giant concrete cat statue that kind
of looks like a zen garden but it's just a round,
fat cat. And I was like, I gotta have it.
But it's like concrete and it's pretty big, and so
I was a little nervous that, like when I would
go to the there wasn't a price on it. So

(02:09:01):
I like went up to the guy and I was like,
it's a how you had this concrete cat. It has
a couple of chips in it. What do you want
for it? And I was thinking to myself, this guy's
gonna be like minimum, like one hundred dollars just concrete cat.
And he was like, would you do twenty?

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
And I was like.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Yeah, And there I am dragging this car. It's as
big as Pikachu behind me. It's like it's up to
my fucking thigh. I'm dragging this concrete cat car. I
needed help. I had to get help from the other
people who like run the estate sale. I buckled it
into my back seat like a baby, took it home,

(02:09:41):
and I put it in my backyard. It's it's coveted
in my backyard. I absolutely love looking at it. Every
time I look in my backyard, I see this giant
concrete zen cat statue. And I laughed to myself that
I acquired such a stupid item. Me joy, I've I
think I bought it before.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
The Game Awards, so probably I was gonna say, I
feel like me, oh yeah, that sounds great.

Speaker 2 (02:10:10):
I would have brought everybody in come look, come look
in my cat sastue. I know I bought it at
the Game Awards because it's the same estate sale, literally
the same house that I also found a velvet black dress.
And I remember saying to myself, that's so pretty, but
there's no way that's gonna fit me. Well, I'm gonna
try it on and I went to this dead lady's

(02:10:31):
house and I tried on this black dress.

Speaker 3 (02:10:32):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
Her name was Susan. They told me all about her,
and this dress fit me like a glove.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
She died.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
I bought it, she died. I took it right off
her bones. I paid this man twenty dollars for this beautiful,
uh vintage black velvet gown, and I wore it to
the Game Awards and you guys all hugged me in it.
That is Susan's dress, Susan. Sure, yeah, there's no question.
I mean that dress had been lived in it some

(02:11:00):
and add somewhere and tear. But I love old people's stuff.
I love things that have been worn and lived in
and loved. And I really enjoy estate sales shopping because
it's not actually about like acquiring something I really need.
It's not like finding the perfect cable or something. It's
really about walking through somebody's life and being like, that's
actually such a fucking sick statue. I love that they

(02:11:23):
had that. How much do you want for it? As
long as they're not trying to gouge me, I'm like,
I will take that home and I will put that
in my house, and my house is filled with shit like.

Speaker 4 (02:11:30):
That, And even if you don't buy anything, it's just
like an interesting just like, oh, who was this person?

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:11:35):
Yeah, what were they doing? Why were they so into giraffes?
I did go to an Estates tale where everything was
a giraffe, and it was just so obvious that everyone
was like, what do we get them? They're fucking one
hundred years old. I don't know what to buy them,
and it's like, well, they're really into giraffes, and so
they just had every everything was a giraffe. It was
really I think that shit is so fun.

Speaker 1 (02:11:54):
Oh shit, I actually I have something perfect.

Speaker 3 (02:11:56):
I'll bear back, uh, Mary while he's getting that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:00):
Yeah, you asked me to just grab the thing closest
to me and it would be something stupid. I was
looking around and I didn't initially see it because it's
the same color as my desk. But this just came
in the mail a couple of days ago. For those
who are not watching the video, it looks like a watch, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Like a watch.

Speaker 4 (02:12:17):
Now, this is the Pavlov shock clock, which Mary, can
you describe what you see on the backside of this
risk of par two.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
Little metal bubbles on the back of this watch.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
It is a thing that you put on and you
fall asleep to it, and you set your alarm, and
you can set the intensity, and you can set some
really crazy shit.

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
It electrocutes you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
One shot collar to wake up too.

Speaker 4 (02:12:41):
Yes, and you can also set things to where it
will not stop shocking you. In fact, you can set
it to increase in intensity until you you can turn
one or multiple of these on. Where you have to
solve a puzzle, you have to print it. Like I
could print out a QR code and put it down
in my basement and I won't stop going to electrocuta
until I run down and scan it. You can make

(02:13:02):
it so you have to do jumping jacks, you know,
like a certain amount, Like I'm not going to stop
getting electrocuted until i do fifty jumping jacks, run downstairs
and scanning QR.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Code and solve this puzzle.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Why don't you just.

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
It's a sex thing about Like all right.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
Lets be real here. There are so many different knobs
and nodules on that thing. There's no way someone hasn't
put that on their butthole before.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Somebody probably has.

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
Why don't you just do jumping jacks?

Speaker 4 (02:13:33):
Well, because I think the incentive is I'm getting electrocuted
and I would like this to stop.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
It's for people who were like, I don't like it,
but I am gonna put it on again tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
No, this is the reason this was recommended to me
is because I used to taser myself.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
Dann, it's it's me and Mary. You can tell us
it's a sexual thing.

Speaker 3 (02:13:53):
I don't have an electrocution.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
Fast horny sleep watch I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (02:14:00):
I have never been electrocuted and gotten an erection.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Does it have on it? How tight can you?

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
I mean, next time we're at the house for Game
of the Year, we're gonna be in the other room
and here Dan wake up with the shock and then
just coming the whole way downstairs. I brought some stuff.
I have a lot of bar I have a lot
of bar wear that's not necessary that I picked up.

(02:14:29):
There's a like whenever we go to Cape Cod there
are stores. There's a kitchen store called Atlantic Spice that
is impossible not to get stuff. I have a fish
shaped wine opener. It's pretty good. I also have a
half naked golden Mermaid bottle cap opener. I also, I
got this in Hawaii. It's a statue bottle opener. And

(02:14:50):
then this is one of my favorites. I got this
at the airport in San Juan. It's a Puerto Rican
it's just it says Puerto Rico and it's turtles flask.
But it's that cheap stuff that peels off. And this
is my favorite. I didn't buy this. This is actually
a gift from a friend who had gone to a
Ruba with his wife.

Speaker 3 (02:15:06):
Yeah, here we go, show it up.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
It's a cooozy on one side, just as a Ruba
and really elegant, sophisticated letters. I got turn Around, Gin
and hot women, Nothing else matters.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
That's what that Metallica songs about.

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
And it just shows, it just shows giblets. Gin.

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
This bad boy has been shown off before the.

Speaker 3 (02:15:30):
Most two dead or alive beach volleyball model.

Speaker 1 (02:15:33):
And she's yeah, she's the most like late nineties porn
type nothing else matter song or tell me yeah, oh yeah,
you can barely even see it, Gin, and this barely
fits me.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
Oh my god, it's like three inches deep.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
I know, I have to really it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
It's like super It's like a boorscrition.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
Yet all his points into girth.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
Yeah, credit with the circumference is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
It's like a frisbee down there. Well, thank you, Okay,
that would be.

Speaker 4 (02:16:15):
For both parties involved, unless you crazy if you found
the right match for that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
Unless you got that deep dish pussy for the frisbee assertion.

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
It's not deep at all. Shallow and why.

Speaker 2 (02:16:27):
Shallow puddle puss.

Speaker 3 (02:16:30):
Shadow shallow puddlestick dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
Don't buy the I don't think I like any of
this that we're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
We've got deep dish pussy.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
Yeah, we just need frisbee dick now associated frisbee dick
dot eed U is gonna get snatched up if we
don't act quickly. Uh previous question. Anything come to mind
in a game that's someone has told you to to do?
Change that.

Speaker 3 (02:17:01):
I don't go.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
I don't think this is a good example, but I'm
gonna buy time with it because it was very controversial.
There was a game that came out when I was
working at game Spot called Everyone's Gone to the Wraption.

Speaker 1 (02:17:11):
Yes this, yeah totally, and it actually.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
Was like kind of universally. It was reviewed a bit
poorly because even though it has a really interesting story
and it's that's pretty much it's only thing like it's
telling quite a good tale. It's all about walking. It's
a walk sim as we used to call them back then,
and it's just like you just walk to these areas.
It took so long for you to be able to
get there. And then one day post our review going up,

(02:17:37):
I'm pretty sure you can correct me if I'm wrong,
but I'm pretty siu. It was like after our review
end up saying like, we have a problem with this.

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
It was it was a nine out of ten, but
the reviewer also called out that you walk very slowly.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
Correct It's just like it took you a long time
to walk from point A to point B, and that's
the whole fucking point of the game. So it's just
really annoying. It was learned that if you hold a
you start walking, but over time you would get a
light jog, which in that game was a massive change
to whether or not it was like a bit of

(02:18:10):
a problem. I don't know if it like fundamentally changed
the way you play it. You still had to do
the exact same bullshit, but all of a sudden it
was like, thank you for like doing this. What I
never really learned was did they add that in and
then just say, oh, you needed to hold it down that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Saying it was in a review guide, but people just
didn't read the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
You just didn't read it. Yeah, that was a big
one in my day.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
Yeah, for this question. Also, I think like the entirety
of I still hear things about like Breath the Wild
and Tears the Kingdom. I did not know you could do,
Like what was it when people started building like using
the pent up potential energy from freeze to then catapult
bombs with you standing on them.

Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
Across There's all those like speed run tricks that like
Breadth the Wild and subhad. It's like, oh, chop down
a tree in the new Stasis and build up the
Yeah yeah, and you just fly across the map.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know if that
counts really because like I think those were all just
more like someone messing with the immersive sim elements of
it there just wanted me to.

Speaker 2 (02:19:16):
Like break the game is a big game changer right
where you're just like, oh, I actually can just wreck
this thing and like evolve. It was really cool to learn.
So yeah, I think Zelda is a great one for that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
There's obvious stuff like in Mario Party.

Speaker 4 (02:19:29):
I always message speed fast and save after every turn,
so some bullshit happens or someone resets it or something,
it's saved. And also I don't want to hear the
fucking shop Koopa talk for twenty minutes every time I
passed there.

Speaker 1 (02:19:42):
I uh I. This is also a bit different. But
once I got the all Guns sheet and Golden Eye,
I discovered that we were basically playing a Horde mode
before it had been technically invented on the facility level
second mission in Golden Eye, once the alarm goes off, yeah,

(02:20:02):
if you kill Trevellian, But as long as you don't
blow up the gas tanks, the only thing ending the
mission is you going through that last door.

Speaker 3 (02:20:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
If you go through the door without blowing out the
gas tanks, you fail the mission. But of course if
you don't blow up the gas tanks, you're not gonna suffocate.
There's a whole room up above you. There's endless enemy
soldiers just keep coming into that room. So once I
had all Guns on, I would just do like a
treat that like a Horde mode before it was actually
the thing in Gears of War or anything.

Speaker 4 (02:20:31):
Like that that also had like little easter egg things,
where as soon as I realized you could detonate the
remote bombs by hitting A and B together instead of
like cycling to your watch and hitting it that way,
you could throw a remote mind and while it's in
mid air right in front of someone's face, is just explode.

Speaker 3 (02:20:45):
It so much more fun. Good for multiplayer too.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
You don't have to wait for it to land. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, there's more might come to us, but uh
but yeah, I'll I'll let you know next time before
we're doing it, so you can the.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
Pokemon of one where it's like, oh, we might need
a minute to get cooking, and then they just start
pouring out of us.

Speaker 4 (02:21:05):
It's always tough because it's like I do always prefer
the just like actually hearing it for the first time
on the air. But then it's like there are ones
where it's like, I bet there's ten examples I could
give right now, but yeah, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
They're specific and it's hard because I don't also just
want to give a random one. It's like there's really
good ones I'm sure that have happened over the course
of my life that I just need a little I
need a noodle on oh.

Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
I also for super Mega super Mega Baseball three during
our World Series charity thing we did, which was very fun.
I didn't realize how much I was over Remember I
smoked you in the first game, and then you came
back and destroyed me in the second game by like
twenty runs. Yes, I think I start overthinking the batting
and the difficulty we were on. I didn't realize they

(02:21:49):
weren't making us on the higher difficulties. You go to
a setting where it's like you have to actually aim
the bat based on where the timing. Yes, I was
overthinking it and I was actually to aim and hit
the pitches. I was striking out every time.

Speaker 3 (02:22:02):
I was like, IDA, always try that, Like it's just like, yeah,
high into the left, I think I.

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
I was going, and if you do that, well you'll
get a better hit, but it's not necessary for just connecting.
I was like striking out left and right. In that second,
he was like, how did I get this bad? I
think we played two nights before that, we did an
actual World Series schedule. I was like, I must be
doing something wrong. And then once that click that I
was overthinking it. I was like, oh, this is fine,

(02:22:27):
and then I only won the series by one game.
I think it was tight up until then.

Speaker 3 (02:22:32):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
Yeah, but there's there's also like little immergent things like so, oh,
someone taught me in FIFA back when I played FIFA,
which was a while ago. The game mode where you
can get a normal goal for a point or red
cards also technically count toward your score. So you're trying
just as hard to get red cards, which you and

(02:22:54):
you're the person you're playing with will consider a point
as you are to get a goal. The hitch. The
hitch being that every time you get a red card,
you lose the player. Oh fun, fun game mode.

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
What happens when you run out of players? Do they
not let you get that point?

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
I don't know if you can, at least I never
saw it happen.

Speaker 2 (02:23:12):
It be one versus eight or however many players play soccer.
Really embarrass myself with my soccer knowledge right now.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
There in Europe they call it basketball. Yeah it was. Oh,
actually I have one more. Now I'm in sports mode
NFL Street two. There are many modes in that game.
There's one mode called NFL Challenge. Usually you do the
thing like backyard sports games where you're just building up

(02:23:49):
your team and you're recruiting new players, and every once
in a while you can get an NFL player. NFL
Challenge is the three v three mode where you are
going through and you're playing all the NFL teams, and
if you complete a specific challenge, you automatically get to
pick any of the players from that team to join

(02:24:10):
yours instead of getting I forget what the other bonuses
are the bonus the challenge, and I might be misconsidering
two things, but I remember the challenge was you had
to get three wall diving touchdowns, which you could. Yeah, man,
they could get annoying because the difference between a wall
run and a wall dive was a very small angle

(02:24:33):
so often, and you could only play up to twenty
one or something. So if you got one wall running touchdown,
you fuck yourself over because you can't finish the game
with three wall dives because you would exceed the points
you need to score. But you also need to get
three wall passes, so you would need to basically maximize. Okay,

(02:24:53):
on this drive, I could do all three wall passes whatever.
But then once I realized that that challenge, it's you
an NFL player. I was like, oh shit, I can
just build an NFL dream team in NFL Street too.
Like at that era, I would have been like Ladany
and Tomlinson, Michael vick Y, you know, pre dog Fighting,
when he was just a fast quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:25:14):
Priest Holmes, Yeah, yes, was he either chiefs receiver, running back.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Yeah. You could get those players just by beating the
team like you can in NBA Street, where you can
either get points for your creative player or get the
NBA player. But I invariably just recruited or NFL player
in that mode, and that was fun, and that completely
changed how I saw that game, even though I already
really liked it.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
It's a great naming.

Speaker 1 (02:25:39):
Thank you, Sayzar for running in. If we think of
any others, we'll probably think of I thought of another. Okay, go.

Speaker 2 (02:25:46):
At first, I was playing Sniper Elite to be a sniper,
but once I found out that you could shoot people
in the balls, it fundamentally changed whether or not I
would actually shoot anyone any other place at any time.
I was just a ball hunter.

Speaker 3 (02:26:02):
Yep, it's really good. That's the name of the game.
In Europe.

Speaker 1 (02:26:05):
Actually yeah, ball hunter existence.

Speaker 3 (02:26:09):
You can't say a sniper in your episodes? Yeah, yeah,
really good.

Speaker 2 (02:26:14):
I can't resist hunting these balls.

Speaker 1 (02:26:18):
Yeah, got a fever bres More.

Speaker 3 (02:26:23):
Balls look like glorious bastards of Hitler's face. But it's just.

Speaker 2 (02:26:33):
Getting a grenade and throwing it at their ball.

Speaker 1 (02:26:35):
Yeah, it's really good. Well, thank you, sayzar. Okay, Well
that's our show, episode ninety nine. Say goodbye to Double
Digits you two Fox Wow crazy? It is not is
for a bi weekly show. That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:26:52):
We've been doing this while coming up on four years.

Speaker 1 (02:26:56):
Yeah, that's like one hundred and ninety eight weeks.

Speaker 3 (02:27:00):
That sounds right, Yeah, which is bath.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
Nerds out there, which is almost four years a little under.

Speaker 3 (02:27:07):
Yeah, yeah, it started in April twenty twenty one, I remember.

Speaker 1 (02:27:11):
Yeah, episode one hundred or we'll have the tournament there.
It'll go up at the normal time. It will almost
definitely be longer than a normal episode because I'm sure
we'll have some sort of arguments and then again, uh,
look mid to late February expect our crossover double campaign
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(02:27:34):
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Speaker 3 (02:27:40):
There's stuff alo on their show. I'm recording one tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:27:43):
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But this will be a fun to like recurring thing
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on in the meantime?

Speaker 4 (02:28:40):
Call me on Twitch, on Blue Sky, on Instagram. That's
pretty much my thing. I'm just Dan Reichord on pretty
much everything.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
Mary what about you?

Speaker 2 (02:28:48):
My stream every Monday on Twitch unless I have a
sick tummy. Then I place Spiro on the couch while
watching old Simpson episodes, and I'm usually on on the
other social media apps. I find that I actually do
update my Instagram stories relatively frequently. I just find them fun.

Speaker 1 (02:29:06):
What is your favorite? Go? What's the best Simpsons episode? Go?
You have to pick one of all time?

Speaker 3 (02:29:12):
Lemon Tree or Monorail.

Speaker 2 (02:29:15):
You know, Lemon Tree is really up there for me
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:29:21):
I lost my audio. Just keep talking, keep riffing, I'll
fix Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:29:25):
He doesn't get He's not smart enough to get it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:28):
I I think, damn. Those are actually both excellent episodes.
The Monorail one is also very good.

Speaker 3 (02:29:35):
Go to college.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
Treehouse of Horror six is very good. It might be five.
I think it's six. It's the one. So Treehouse of
Horror has like some really iconic ones. And there's one
where Burns is Nosferatu.

Speaker 3 (02:29:53):
Oh and it's the like bram Soakers Dracula style with.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
The like the puppy.

Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
It's really good. I mean, I think they're they're their
Treehouse of Horror episodes, they're all their Halloween episodes. They're
all fucking slam dunks. But I think there's a couple
that are just really iconic. The one where Homer goes
into a three D land as a kid that.

Speaker 3 (02:30:13):
Blew me away, like, holy shitn't at the end, he's
like in the real world erotic.

Speaker 2 (02:30:17):
Cakes and yeah, ooh erotic cakes. Yeah yeah, and the
sister is Patty and Samma. It's like he disappeared into
fat air. There's just so many good singers in those episodes. Yeah,
the one where the I think their ads just come
to life. And so Homer steals the giants jelly.

Speaker 3 (02:30:40):
The lard lad donuts, Yeah, I got your donut?

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
What do you gonna do about it? And he starts
destroying the town.

Speaker 4 (02:30:46):
When they give him his thing back and they're like, oh,
finally peace, and he just takes the donut and smashes
the house and just like runs down the street destroying
all the.

Speaker 2 (02:30:53):
Houses, and Homer goes to Marginie goes, don't you ever
get tired of being wrong? And she does sometimes. And
I actually say that sometimes if anyone's like I've actually
like in a joking way, but like I their lingo
is in this brain so deeply that sometimes if like
someone has been like just taken l's, I will say, like,

(02:31:16):
what should we get tired of being wrong all the time?
Like it's just really good everyday language that you can use. So, yeah,
those are I think those treehouses of horror like they
have to be really up there for me.

Speaker 1 (02:31:29):
Yep, absolutely, I've seen some of those. I've seen the Raven.

Speaker 2 (02:31:35):
Never Mare, never Mare.

Speaker 3 (02:31:36):
Yeah, those are the Okale Heart one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31:39):
Yeah, that's so.

Speaker 3 (02:31:41):
That's why I know any girl on poets from the Simpsons,
there's so.

Speaker 2 (02:31:45):
Many good ones. The Pool episode when Bart breaks his leg, I.

Speaker 3 (02:31:50):
Mean the Bart, uh, the gross Bart, the twin that
was living in the attic or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
Yeah, is that also it's also a treehouse of horror?

Speaker 3 (02:32:01):
Or the Shining one no Beer, no TV.

Speaker 2 (02:32:03):
Yeah, yeah, that one is so brilliant. Yeah, don't mind
if I do. Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's so
many episodes, it's very difficult to pick my favorite Simpson's episode,
but I think it would be a treehouse of horror.

Speaker 3 (02:32:18):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
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you there.

Speaker 3 (02:33:04):
I'm not good at this, you're not, so we have
Mike do it?

Speaker 1 (02:33:07):
Yeah for three hours, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:12):
I don't like hosting. I'm not Yeah, I don't like hosting.

Speaker 1 (02:33:13):
See you be there or I'll find you so good there.
You have to give me your address. I will be
at your house if you don't come to the one
hundredth episode.

Speaker 2 (02:33:23):
This is why he's going to be the host of
Hollywood Squares.

Speaker 4 (02:33:26):
Yeah that's right, well no, hang on, that's me, My god,
I deserve everything.

Speaker 1 (02:33:32):
I'm going to take over from either Jimmy Matt.

Speaker 2 (02:33:35):
Say Jack, Wait is it past Jack?

Speaker 1 (02:33:41):
What's his name?

Speaker 3 (02:33:43):
Tom Berger?

Speaker 1 (02:33:46):
It's about Craig Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
Wink Martindale, you go weaving, I'll see you on our
Richard Dawson, Banks, Penelope uh hey so yeah bye,