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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Ready, everybody, I'll welcome to another edition of Fire Up Florida.
My name is Scott Morgan, Routhemore and city Man Mouth,
pleased to be joined by my co host Rod Peterson.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm doing fine. You know. There's a reason why I'm
wearing UCI in Miami shirt because obviously Miami takes out
Florida State. But there's also a reason why I'm wearing
this USF hat too, and I'm gonna tell you why.
About an hour ago, I received word that USF men's
basketball head coach Amir abduer Raheem died today at age

(00:57):
forty three. He was undergoing a medical procedure the Tampa
Area hospital and died due to complications. So once again,
head coach Amir amduur Raheem dead at the age of
forty three. So let me explain this to youre really quickly.
I had an opportunity to cover FAU and USF. I'm

(01:17):
actually clinic they used in the AC and I was
at the they call it the Yeling Center, whatever that
thing is called. I call it the sun Dome because
that's all I ever know anyway, And that's where I
got my degree and I had opportunity to meet the coach,
and I'm going to tell you, Rod, Okay, this guy
here is one of the nicest people I have ever met. Thankfully,

(01:40):
I did get a picture with him as well, and
I told him, Coach, you're doing a great job and
I'm glad you're making my alma mater proud. Keep it up,
and he said, thank you very much for your support.
It's glad to have you here. You will not not
find a nicer guy than this. Gone too soon at
the age of forty three.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
My condolence is Scott, to you and to the fans
of the program.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That is terrible news. Tough way to start the show. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, I want to get that off my chest a
little bit, and I also wanted to pay tribute to
them with this usfan And that's why I'm wearing the
Miami shirt because for the game. Of course this weekend,
Candy and I'll be covering but this and honor of coach.
So what we're going to do, Rod, is we're going
to go out there and dedicate this fire of Florida
to a mirror of duer Raheem at the age of

(02:31):
forty three. Okay, So that's what We're gonna do some
other noteworthy news too. You want to talk about a
busy week, Rod, I'm gonna tell you this. There's gonna
be sixteen NFL games, three World Series games, forty one
NBA games, and guess what, forty nine NHL games over

(02:51):
the next week. How about that? You got all four
major scores rolling?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Okay, not to mention some college football games are going
to help go a long ways, I think to determining
the twelve team playoff, which I know we're here to
talk hockey and fire up Florida here tonight.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But I've been enjoying your baseball shows. Well. Have you
previewing the World Series?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And I was talking with Serena You talked about my
lovely wife earlier, Kim Member it was on the air off.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't know, man. I'm sure you're looking forward to
the Yankees and the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I am too, hey, Joshua, But I feel like I
enjoyed the World Series a lot more in the eighties
and when we were younger than I do now.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's not just me, are you the same?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know what I actually am with you, and I'll
tell you why I like it. Back in the eighties. Well,
number one, I actually met Tom Lisorda at the nineteen
eighty one Baseball Winter Meetings on the Dodgers one and all,
and he was my first major interview. I like it because,
number one, the game was really pure. You didn't have
to worry so much about hitch clocks and a lot

(03:56):
of the other mound visits or any of that. Now
they've changed the game in such a way there are
certain rule changes I just don't like. And let's face it,
the rule changes are what they are as of now. Rob.
But nobody says I gotta like him. But Don Manningly
once told me, whether we like him or we don't,
we have to live with them. And he's right, W
gotta like him, So you know what, Rob, that's an
affirmative as well. So I know Joshua is on this.

(04:19):
So I want Joshua to know that this first topic
had him in mind. Okay, And I'll tell you where
I'm going. If you look at the title of the show,
the NHL fighting stats from twenty three and twenty four.
So I remember back in the days when hockey was
way better and there was a lot more fights and

(04:39):
it was a lot more physical There's no way Wayne
Gretzky would have posted the numbers that he posted when
there were twelve teams little much less the original six.
I'll guarantee you that, and nobody will say tell me
I'm right or wrong. We'll never know. But let's just
bring these numbers up to tell me what you think
of them. Okay, Ron the best fighting teams and the

(05:01):
source that I ended up getting this from was bar Down. Okay,
so I'll talk about the best for okay, Ron. Philadelphia
had twenty three total fights, fights won. They had twenty
two and fights winning percent of ninety six percent. Almost
feels like Broadstreet bullies again, doesn't it? With the flyers
being up there? But then you get Dallas at eight

(05:24):
total fights seven to one eighty eight percent. Okay, And
then you have Washington twelve total fights, ten fights, one
eighty three percent, Anaheim with twenty eight total fights nineteen
to one sixty eight percent, in Colorado nine total six

(05:46):
one sixty seven percent. All right? Can't you go ahead
and put Joshua's comment up there? Fighting has become more
prevalent the last couple of years. I feel like, not
sure what stats say. Of course, not like the old days. Well, exactly, Joshua.
So with that said, Rod, how how do you digest
what I've just thrown at you?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I hope that Joshua was right that fighting is
on the rise. Those of us that were raised on
and came enjoyed that part of the game. But I'll
be honest with you, it's a great topic. I didn't
know that we were going to talk about this, but
you happen to hit on one of my favorite topics.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And then, so let me ask you a question. What
did you call me before the show? Okay, what quarterback?
Did you compare me to.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Brett Favre of the newspaper industry because you.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Called yourself media? Yeah, sports media, not just newspapers. I
do this in front of you and everybody else on
the planet, sports media, broadcast newspaper. But yeah, I'm a
gunslinger and I like the comparison with Brett perkskra You know,
all you don't know because you're smart enough to let
the guy that's been an executive producer all these years
come up with the topics and all I have to
do is just and I know that you're a natural

(06:58):
when it comes to answering my questions so well, and
I please, and I'm a student of the game.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
But here's the thing about it. But you got eyes
can all weigh in on this.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
But what I've since I've been covering the NHL for
quite a long time, the NHL would rather well, I know, they.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Don't want to promote fighting, Scott.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
If you go watch the NHL Network or if you
go on any of the social media channels of the NHLs,
they don't promote the fights.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
They don't put fights in the highlights, right.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's for us to go and try and dig up
somewhere or watch the games ourselves. I think the NHL
is like, we don't promote fighting, we don't glorifyed fighting,
but we don't outright ban it either. You know what
I'm saying, This is still a man's league. There's a
time and a place for fighting. So what we grew
up with the seventies you referred to the both Broadstreet Bullies.

(07:45):
The eighties, which I think is the golden era, there
was exponentially more fighting, and the NHL feels that was wrong.
I don't, but they've you know, almost completely eradicated it.
But those numbers you read off most teams would have
that in one game, right.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Thirty forty Well, yeah, back then they would. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So that's my that's my take on the NHL and fighting.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
They're not willing to completely ban it and eradicate it,
but they don't promote it either. There's a time and
a place. Joshua's hit on. Something very interesting is fighting
on the rise. That would be not by design, you know,
there's that we we we I cover this team here,
the Florida Panthers. They're one of the roughest teams in
the National Hockey League, right they want to Stanley Cup

(08:31):
play in that way.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
So it's an EBB and a flow thing. Sports goes
in cycles, as you know.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
And if rough and temple playing fighting is on the
way back, I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah all right, Well, now let's go to the other
side where the worst fighting teams go. To Ottawa. They
had twenty four total fights. They only won five of
them at twenty one percent. Don't worry, it's better. San
Jose had nineteen total fights, five to one and twenty
six percent. So at nineteen then you got Nashville. I
will at least say in my favorite number thirty three. Anyways, Okay,

(09:03):
total fights in one eleven thirty three percent. So at
least those numbers are thirty three. Who I am. I'll
get one of these days when I'm hanging out with you,
I'll give you the reason why the thirty three is
my lucky number. But Utah slash Arizona because obviously they
played the Cootes last year they had thirteen total fights
with five to one thirty eight percent, and then Vegas

(09:24):
had thirty one total fights in one twelve at forty percent.
So let's look at the other side of the spectrum,
all right, take it from there.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, again, these teams aren't building teams to be fighting
teams and goon teams.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean, you look at Ottawa, you said, at the
other end of the scale, whatever the percentage was of
fights that they won. I'd love to know who's keeping
track of this, you said, bar down. So that's a
subsidiary of TSN. They obviously have their own staff tracking this,
because I don't think the NHL would. But to me,
it doesn't mean anything what your one loss record is

(10:03):
in NHL fights, it doesn't mean anything. They are not
building teams to win, fight Scott. They're winning teams to
win hockey games and the Stanley Cups. Right, if you
ask me what my initial take is on that, that's.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I don't care what the one loss records are in fights.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I barely care what the fighting stats are at all,
because it's really not part of the game.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, but the reality is why you have these players
is to protect the superstar. You know that as well
as I do, Because I wonder if anybody out here
knows what the Gordyao hat trick is? Do you know
what it is?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
A goal to assist in a fight?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Of course, come on, Walter, seriously, all right, you got
to now you only two realies. Really seriously, really that
is the Motor City man, I mean seriously, and then
you're off the hook trade seriously all right, so really,

(10:57):
really seriously seriously, Although you go back and that's a trademark,
that's a new one we're going to create when we're
back together. But if we had these one on one
banter that stopped from.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It, say that across the front with your face. But
you know what, I guarantee you and I haven't met
Joshuay yet.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I hope that I do.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But I'm pretty sure he would know about a Guardy
Hall hat trick is this guy seems to know his stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, he's a hockey He's definitely a hockey person. His dad,
he's actually his dad is from Philadelphia. Loves the Flyers.
I just like the fact when the Detroit Red Wings
snapped their long drought they beat the Flyers. Doesn't matter
to me. Yeah, Gordy how I actually met him, and
he's in my book, by the way, and that being
obviously lessons from the Microphone, which Candy is going to

(11:42):
promote in a few moments. But I don't know. I
just love the fighting. I mean, nowadays, you know, you
still have your fights. And let me tell you, when
they're on the ice, okay, the referees are gonna let
them punch it out. They know what the game is.
They can't totally take everything out anyway. They're certainly not
going to enforce it that you can't. So yeah, it's okay.
I mean, you know, but like Josh said, bring back

(12:04):
the enforces that. You never know some teams are going
to do that to protect their best player, which indeed
they do so. But I had a fear I've always
wanted to talk about this. Now, I got somebody like
you've been around the game forever, who was obviously no
more hockey people than anybody can imagine. So I just
loved it. There was a book out there many years

(12:24):
ago my mom bought me called Blood on the Ice.
I don't know if you ever saw that book or not.
I might actually have it somewhere in my office here.
I don't know where it's at, but I remember it
was quite a game. So all right, well, hey, fighting
is what it is in Philadelphia. You want their ninety
six percent. The one thing that they don't have is
the true jewel, and that happens to be with the

(12:46):
Florida Panthers own. And with that said, I'm going to
segue to the Florida pant Panthers rod because they extended
coach Paul Marie. I want some details from you as
what took place there.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, h Serena and I talked about that on our
Cats and Bolts podcasts this week.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
We thought Scott that the timing was a little odd.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
And you must remember Jeff Rimmer, the official, the original
voice of the Florida Panthers back in the day from
thirty years ago. I sat with them at in the
press box of the night at the game, because they
announced the extension just prior to the game, and we said,
this just seems odd. This is usual off season stuff.
This is usually the stuff you do in the summer,

(13:29):
right and announcing the summer.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
But you know, Serena said on the show, and she
analyzed his hockey as well.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
As anybody that Bill Zito, the general manager, just seems
to get stuffed done, doesn't care about the pr of
all of it. He's like, let's get this done and
let's announce it. And it's how I like the way
that he runs a hockey team, Scott. He's not keeping
people on edge, Bill Zito, not keeping people on age.
Why let Paul Maurice go to the end of the
season when his contracts up. Give him some security with

(13:55):
an extension. They've never announced how long it is, they
haven't announced how much. I haven't seen it anyways, but
he's in year three of a three year deal that
pays him three point nine million dollars a season.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
So the general.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Feeling around the National Hockey League with media and fans
and hockey people is that the guys earned it, give
it to him and go out and win another Cup.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, I mean I haven't seen the contract either. I
would assume, and I'm only assuming here that you're probably
looking at two to three years and then Paul Maurice
might be done coaching anyways. But you know, let's think said,
the Panthers are run much differently these days. They really are.
You got a top flight general manager and president of
hot operations that simply gets it right. He does. He's

(14:39):
locked up his core players for how long? Who knows
what his top five or six core players right ron
or whatever he has, So he's got that nucleus in place.
Now he has to go out there and put the
rest of the puzzle together with what you're paying these
guys to fill in the rest of the roster. But Bill,

(15:00):
you said veto, I think, right Zito. Okay, that's what
I thought. This guy just gets it right. He reminded
me of Kenny Holland. But I think Bill Zito is
probably a little bit better than Holland. And I'm a
Detroit guy by trade, because this guy took an organization
on his own and he had to change the culture
around it. And not only that. To make things even

(15:22):
more interesting about Bill Zito, and the Paul Maurice. He
had to work around that Joel Quinble situation as well.
You bring in Andrewman that you thought maybe he wouldn't
be the logical in house hire, but he goes with
an experienced guy. The Panthers don't play that great the
first year that I think they backed into the playoffs,
but they get in. Then they march their way to

(15:44):
the finals, and then the following year, you know what,
they had the eye of the tiger, okay, and they
found themselves competing and winning the Stanley Cup when they returned.
So Bill Zito, I think he just he's an unbelievable
job changing the culture himself by the way he handles
his rotcher. And of course he made that trade for

(16:06):
Matthew could Chuck as well. So this guy's a genius,
that's all. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'd have to go look it up. And maybe Joshua
knows this. I'm not sure. I obviously really respect Joshua's
hockey knowledge. But there was a poll recently at the
start of this NHL season in the website The Athletic
where it ranked the top hockey front offices in the
National Hockey League, and the Panthers were number three, and
it was a poll amongst hockey executives across the NHL,

(16:31):
and there was a quote in there Scott that said,
the Panthers are run the way we'd all run it
if we were in charge. Basically run the way a
hockey guy would run it.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I eat not.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Leaving your people on edge, not waiting till the end
of the last minute for contracts to run out. Look
at what Jerry Jones does with the Dallas Cowboys, which
is my NFL team. No, give people the security, reward them.
And you mentioned culture. It's funny because I do get
this a little bit. I've been here four years now,
which kind of coincides with reign, and I have Panthers

(17:02):
fans say to me, one being Jeff Rimmer, He's like,
you're a front runner, You're a Johnny cum lately. You
weren't here for the bad times. I'm like, so what, sorry,
What am I supposed to do about that? I can't
help that. I'm just happy to be here for the
good times, man, And I think the Panthers are going
to be good for a long time, or as long
as Bill's Zito's in charge.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I like the second half what you said. I
don't know how long they'll be good for. But the
second half what you said is more online. And that's
as long as Bill's Edo's run in the show. I mean, guy,
it's a genius. I said that. I mean, you know,
and if they're number three, more power to him. Once
upon a time, they let they fired Gerard Galant go
and they left him and he had to fly back

(17:43):
on his own, and that looked bad for the organization.
The way they handled that fire. We don't know the
whole reason behind it. Did you hear that story that
Gerard go On was fired and he I don't know
if he was allowed to come back on the plane.
Maybe Joshua might have clarity on that. But Gerard go
On did not leave on the best of terms, and
he made them relevant and made them play hard. I
know he's one of those coaches that last about two

(18:04):
or three years. I don't know what it is, whether
he wears on his players or not. But we'll move
to the present tense that he brings in. Paul Maurice
and he had Joel Quinnwall and that was a tough
situation that he had to get out of. With the
Joel Quinnwell, because I think Joel Quindwall would have ultimately
have won a Stanley Cup with the Panthers. I really
totally believe it. And you never know. I have a

(18:25):
feeling that Joel Quinnwall will definitely resurface. But that said,
one person's going to surface now is Kandy Eppling, and
she's going to take us to a station break.

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Speaker 1 (20:01):
Thank you. Kay, all right, Rod, I'm going to really
put you on the spot this time, my friend and
I am the Gunslinger, and I'm gonna make sure if
you don't know this, you'll have material for your next
Cats and Bolts podcasts. Okay, do you have you? Did
you know if there were ever any professional hockey teams

(20:24):
before the Florida Panthers arrived in town? Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Probably? You always like to catch me on this old
time history. I'm not sure why you.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Do that, but why because I'll tell you why I
do that, because you know what I do. Want to
know how much you want to know about what you're
doing locally and if you don't, and why I come
after this old time history is if you don't know it,
then you can use it on one of your shows.
I'm trying to help you be a content creator now,
whether you believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Sorry, but still no, I'm teaching you which Tebow the
Tim Tebow story I did not know.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
So that was a very good tidbit that you'd unearthed.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Buddy.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
All I can remember is I don't really think about
this stuff. It's not in my purview. But Orlando had
a hockey team Jacksonville. Was it pre NHL or not.
I'm not sure, but I've had buddies that played in
both places.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Okay, Well, I'm talking about South Florida, South Florida. Do
you recall any professional team, minor league or anything in
South No.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I gotta a kid, so.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Tell me about them.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's okay, because I'll probably have to go ahead and
send you this thing so you can put it on
the Cats and Bolts and you can say where you've
got it from. All right, who proceeded to Florida Panthers.
In South Florida, there's a team called the Miami Screaming
Eagles of the World Hockey Association. But get this, they

(21:56):
never played a game in nineteen seventy two. Do to
having an unfit arena for use. The choices you had
back then ron for the Miami Beach Convention Center, which
had a few thousand seats, you had the Hollywood Sportatorium.
I actually ended up taking the drive by there back
in the early ages what I did so at least

(22:17):
I never of course, nobody had camera phones back then,
but I did see it. It was all the way out
the middle of nowhere off Hollywood Boulevard, and that had
no age se no permanent seats, a partially open roof.
And what ended up happening is the effects to lure
another team of the WHA failed, So when the arena

(22:38):
was fully endorsed and was expanded, the team was So
that's despite the fact that the arena was fully expanded,
but that didn't matter. That WHA was not going to
go ahead and bring him back. So the other half
of that question is they ended up relocating to Philadelphia

(23:00):
and they were renamed the Philadelphia Blazers of the wh
A little bit of history, and then the Panthers came
two decades later. Now here's there's a little bit more
to this. The first team that was intended to come
to South Florida was when Buffalo Savers owners Seymour, Ahed
Knox a Third Northrop R. Knox and robert O Suadows

(23:23):
were awarded an AHL team, but the AHL boughked because
Miami was actually distance and they had no teams south
of Virginia in nineteen seventy. What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think that's awesome. I think I think that's great.
I mean, I love hockey history. Now, I thought that
I was gonna end up moving to Arizona and spending
the less rest of my life in Arizona. So I
had looked up the history of Phoenix, and you're probably
where you lived there for a while. You're where the
Phoenix Roadrunners and the Phoenix Mustangs. But no, this is

(24:04):
all news to me, Scott.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, Rod, I can tell you something, my friend. I
have a feeling I'll be texting you this whole thing anyways.
So if you want to use it on the Cats
and Bolts podcast, that's exactly why I brought it in. Again,
I'm not here deliberately tricky and Mickey look stupid. I mean,
you're all you said, You've only been here for four years,
you know. But the reality is there was some history.

(24:28):
And the thing is is when the Panthers came here,
you also had the Miami Arena as well, so and
that where all the rats and then they started until
the ultimately moved.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
To where they ended up going.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So remember the show that we ended up doing in
August when we talked about the Tampa Bay Lightning being
on for sale. A new update on this one. The
Tampa Bay Lightning chairman and governor Jeff Vinnick in Bennic
Sports Group today announced the sale of a portion of
the Tampa Bay Lightning and vin A Sports Group to

(25:01):
a group of investors led by Doug Ostraver and Mark Lipschultz.
Vinic will still run the show for three years and
remain an active minority owner for that. The deal is
said to be worth two billion dollars, according to a
report from Sports Now. Well, we talked about it, and
now the news certainly came to Fruision. Give me your

(25:21):
thoughts about that, please.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
What I think is it's an interesting story.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Not surprised how many people are as interested in it
as they are. I did the digging after you teed
me up that we were going to talk about it
tonight as lover and lip Schultz.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
If I have that right, Our money.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Guys, investors from venture capital companies, not a hedge fund guys,
I would assume, certainly, not hockey guys. But as you know,
you've been in this perilous trade. Nobody's getting rich from sports.
You knew they're going to be money guys. And the
key quote out of this all was that nothing will
change with the Tampa Lightning.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
You must have seen that.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
As a matter of fact, I think Jeff Vinnick himself
said that nothing will change in day to day operations
and the expectations remain the same. And that is the
challenge for a Stanley Cup every single year as long
as Jeff Ynnix around and probably long after he's gone.
So yeah, he's accomplished what he was setting out to do,
sell off a portion of this of the team and

(26:21):
still operated.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
So it's good news I think for the Lightning.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I think so too. And let's face a reality.
Before Vinnick ended up buying the team, I believe Bill Davidson,
if I remember correctly, owned the team, if I remember correctly,
and of course he was the owner of the Detroit
Pistons as well, and that's when Bill Wickett came down
as well. So yeah, I'm happy for Tampa. Well face it, reality,
they say he's only an run of three years. I

(26:46):
wouldn't be surprised if he's doing so well. Okay, that
he may stay around. These guys are wanting to make
money and be a part of the whole thing. But
you know, going into today's game, you know, the Florida
Panthers leave the I believe the Atlantic Division or the
NHL with nine points and then Tampa Bay ended up

(27:07):
having a So I think it's healthy for hockey when
you can continue to have two franchises and Florida doing well.
But what people have to understand rod not just franchise
is doing well. You've got two major markets in the
Tampa Bay area and South Florida. These aren't small market teams.

(27:28):
When people talk about expansion, they wonder you know who
you're gonna bring in? Well, if you're smart when you
talk about expansion, we'll talk about this a little bit
down the road. Are you're going to bring in the
Portland's and the Milwaukee's even though I think Milwaukee would
be good with problem is the like not inside of
it out. No, I think the next logical place are
going to go to be Houston, and then you would
wind up going to Atlanta, knowing that if they put

(27:50):
the stadium in the suburbs. I've always advocated for Kansas City,
but I like the fact that you've got stability in
the state of Florida. And this just goes to show
another reason why you have that kind of stability and
two billion dollars for one a portion of it. I mean,

(28:11):
let's face the reality, hockey values and sports team values
are going up. But the lightning situation when you talk
about two billion, what you get for that money is
you have three Stanley Cup champions in your pocket. You
don't have to break a long curve, do you, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Buying a winner, right.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's just it's interesting what you say with the stability
in Florida, and I love it, and I feel very
grateful and fortunate to have.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Shown up what I did.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
But it took twenty years for Tampa Bay to be stable,
thirty years for Florida to be stable. Looking back, maybe
it doesn't feel like a real long time, but I
met you, it did feel like a real long time
for quite a while, and you know, this is this
debate every week in the South Florida Tribune. In my column,
I'm talking some tidbit of expansion. And it's interesting that

(29:00):
you mentioned Portland. You've mentioned Milwaukee. I've never been to Milwaukee.
I've been to Portland. It's a beautiful city. I didn't
even heard those names. I've heard Atlanta a lot, Kansas City, Houston,
and Quebec City. So what that says is there's a
lot of cities that want teams and the owners do
want to expand. And I had the executive producer of

(29:21):
Hockinge and Canada, John Shannon, explained to me the reason
rod the revenues are through the roof is because of
the extra teams in Vegas and Seattle.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
If there's one thing we know about owners what they're greedy.
They like money. That's how they got to be owners.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
So they are saying there will be expansion in the NHL,
and I hope it's Atlanta. I think first, I think
you know that my radio show airs in Atlanta every day.
We're known as Atlanta's NHL Show. We're set up nicely
for that to happen. But it's gonna happen. The question
is where, And that's one thing fans love love to
debate is expansion. And I don't mind it either, you know,

(29:59):
but that that's what they're talking about. I think it's
a good thing, and he buzz is.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
A good thing.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well, sure, you know the best thing the owner is
like about expansion. Don't you about what they charge of
those franchise see these days? Seriously, you know you can
put a lot of money back there. I know Joshua
talking about bringing back the Thrashers. I don't think they
would rename them the Thrashers of the Jets, so I
think they'd probably try to remarket rebrand, considering the Thrashers
ended up leaving them not so best of terms, and

(30:25):
you don want to rebrand it. But Joshua, you're not
so far off when you think about the reality that
you know, I think, Atlanta, if you put the stadium
in the suburbs, that's the only chance you have. Now.
You can't put it downtown. It's already failed twice. Everybody
that's read about that situation will tell you need to
go and but they're talking about going to the suburbs. Anyways,

(30:46):
I get lots of friends that live in Atlanta, and
that's where they're headed. Houston to me is a no brainer.
You bringing in the Houston Arrows, which I know they
would probably take that name. And once upon a time
our buddy Gordy Howe did play there with his sons.
I think it was Mark and Marty, right, Murray's the
one that didn't play hockey. I think he's a doctor

(31:07):
if I remember right. But and I actually went to
school with them years ago. It's over at McIntyre Elementary.
But yeah, so I think the Houston Arrows. There's no way.
I don't see Batman moving to Quebec, as much as
people want to think he should because they need they want.
You know, he's with Canada. You saw during the pandemic, okay,

(31:28):
how difficult it was to cross to cross borders. We
would hope this pandemic could be gone for another one
hundred years or so, and I won't be here then,
and I and if you make it one hundred years,
and more power to you, you'll be the most experienced
announcer than anybody's ever had. But you get out there.
But seriously, you know, all kidding aside here, So I

(31:50):
but now Kansas City. I always liked the idea and
the reason why you haven't heard much about it. I
devoted an entire show to it too, was you had
the Kansas City Scouts and they had the Kemper Arena,
but they built a new building with an intent to
get a hockey team. They did, and they don't have

(32:10):
an anchor tenant in the Kansas City building is what
they don't have. And Milwaukee, you know, you would create
a great rivalry for Chicago, and of course Minnesota is
not that far away either, and it would kind of
remind you a little bit of the Big Ten, so
to speak, in hockey. So we'll talk about it a

(32:31):
lot more of But the two core things that we've
talked about, though, is the reality that for those of
you people that don't know the history of hockey and
South Florida, please listen to this broadcast. Again, you're not
going to hear from many sports shows out there, the
Miami Screaming Eagles. You're not gonna do it. And of course,

(32:54):
how many people outside of our area know about the
hollywoods Sportatorium, which I believe was the Donald's right now,
But I remember when it was all the way out
in the middle of nowhere. Rock listen. I went to
college over at Broward College, Okay, or it was Prower
Community College at the time. The two campuses I ended
up going to were Davy and Pembrick Pins Okay. And
again I can remember when I was driving out there.

(33:17):
It's a two lane road. And when you drive out there,
have you anybody there have been by? That area? Now
is so much built up, it's ridiculous. But that place
is in the middle of nowhere, you know, so you
know you have to go out there and really look
at the history of the supportatorium. But yeah, let's face

(33:38):
a reality. The Florida Panthers first arena here was a
Miami arena and they were they and the Miami Heat
ended up starting there. That arena went down. They didn't
build it for a lot of money. Miami stayed by
the Bayfront. I don't know if have you ever? Have
you and Serena ever been down by the Bayfront area
where the Heat Arena is. I go down there lots.
She doesn't like to go into Miami. I mean, she

(34:00):
thinks the drivers are too crazy, too many people. I
like it, but I go to Heat games as much
as I can.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I don't really know anything about basketball, but I just
enjoyed the show when I like the fact that I'm
unexpected to.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Know anything about basketball, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So I usually go when the Raptors are in town
and I hang out around the area.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I really like it. I take great line down there.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh do you really? Yeah, I've covered games there when
the Pistons played the Miami Heat. It was great. Now
Miami Heat people every time I went there, they opened
their hospitality. They were absolutely fantastic. People never had a
bad experience with the Miami Heat. They were always really good.
I enjoy In fact, I'll even take it a step further.
I saw the last game I saw was Dwayne Wayne's

(34:41):
final season when he was retiring against the Pistons. But
that was a nasty rivalry between Detroit Pistons and the
Miami Heat. But you know, dig into the history of
the Florida Panthers and Pro hockey down here, you're going
to find it was interesting and when you trace if
people ever want to know what you have in common
with my Miami Philadelphia wise, he had the Philadelphia Blazers

(35:03):
and the Miami streaming screaming Eagles, I mean, and yet
one never played because of insufficient arenas. And then of
course the Philadelphia Blazers. And you know I've actually cover
I've actually gone to a couple some events up there
covering the Eagles, and I also saw a game against

(35:26):
with the seventy six ers with Michael Jordan. They're good fans.
They really are, absolutely good fans, is what they are.
But now you know a little bit of history, Rod,
about long before the Panthers were here, and I think
they were brought in the Panthers. To me, it would
be or are like what Atlanta should be. They've built
theirs in the suburbs, or they got their own arena.

(35:48):
They've established their reputation in Broward County, and I think
the biggest thing that the Marlins screwed up was they
didn't build their arena or stadium where it was accessible
to all counties instead of being landing in the old
Orangeville site. Because I know that Jeff Hampers are attendants.
Of course, all that losing doesn't help matters any So,

(36:09):
like I told you, Rod, they had a loaded show.
And I definitely go out there and teach you a
couple of things tonight.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh yeah, it's been it's been great. I'm going I'll
be thinking about this history of Florida hockey. It's I
was surprising when I did come here four years ago.
I didn't think anybody even knew what hockey was. That's
the perception, frankly in Canada, and it's wrong. And right
after this show tonight, I'm going over to Barnes and
Noble to pick up Doug mclin's book. And I had

(36:39):
to call there to see if they had it, and
the gall of Barnes and Nobles said, the last copy
is here.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
We'll leave it at the front tail and put your
name on it. Well, who would buy?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
People are buying Doug McLain's book, the coach of the
Panthers who took him to the ninety six Stanley Cup Final.
They like, they love hockey here, right, And that the
perception maybe people don't care. That that's what people think,
that they don't even know what hockey is. That's what
That's what I thought till I got here. It's kind
of been a nice surprise. They've had hockey for a
long time.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well, do you know who the goaltender is? On that
team for the Screaming Eagles. No I'm talking about I
wouldn't go to ask j Van Beesbrook. Yeah, he's he's
from the Detroit area. Yeah. Roger Neilsen was also a
big part of this franchise back in the day as well.
Roger Neilsen was unbelievable. I had the opportunity to get

(37:27):
to know Dennis Potfin a little bit as well. And
Dennis are nice people I've ever met. So you know,
you ever met Dennis pot Fan knowing you you probably have.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, I've been around him in the press box, I've
met him.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I've never interviewed him, but yeah, I spent time with him.
He was a super nice guy, you know. And of
course Bobby Clark was here during the earlier days of
the Panther So there's a lot of interesting names that
have crossed pass but the Florida Panthers that never wore
a jersey, but they still were good hockey minds as well.
So I told you Rod when you came on my
friend that this is going to be a loaded show.

(37:58):
And there's no question if I lived up to exactly
what I was preaching, wasn't.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I Yeah, what else you got no.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I think we're probably just about it. Any any partying
shots or things that you want. In fact, there is
one thing I want to ask you. I want you
to talk about that trip that you have last week
in Canada. Yeah, we have a couple of minutes. Well, hey,
I do corporate speaking. You knew that I was going
up there to do it.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
And it had a sports bank where we were raising
funds for the local hockey arena. And it was in
a city where I stayed called moose Jaw, Saskatchewan.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Have you heard of it? Yeah, I actually have heard
of it.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, so I rented it. Well, my vehicle that I
leave in Canada wasn't running too well. I hadn't driven
it in a long time, so I rented a car
more hour before I went to pick it up, the
car company called rental dealership and said, we don't have
any cars for you. I said, well, I have a reservation.
They said, doesn't do you any good because we don't
have any cars. So I took my business manager's vehicle

(38:58):
left the city blew a time. He drove on a
rim into a gas station said to the gal behind
the counter, do you have a tow truck here, she goes, no,
but we have U Haul.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
She didn't speak English very well.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
The only vehicle for rent in moose Jau, Saskatchewan was
a U haul truck twenty eight foot van Scott and
I took it. I don't want to tell you how
much I had to pay for it, but I got
to my event just in the nick of time. It
was quite stressful. Four vehicles I went through to finally
get there, quite stressful. But then I laid down at
night going you know what, really wasn't that bad? Just

(39:30):
another story.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, you know, I'll tell you you're one of the better
social media people I've seen out there. Rod and I
and like you, you probably pay attention to what I
put up there, but I was definitely watching when you
were up there as well. Pretty cool stuff. You get
opportunity to go back to Canada and do stuff like that.
Obviously you're well respected in that area. You've done an
awful lot there. We're not going to any your background

(39:55):
or ound of that, because we obviously it's pretty well sad,
but I think it's just neat that you can go
there and do events like you do. And of course
you now you've establishing your niche down here in this
neck of the woods. And you know what, I'm just
here to educate it. And I'm gonna tell you while
you're going to Barnes and Noble, you know what I'm
gonna do. I'm going to go out there and take
a picture of this thing, and I'm gonna go ahead
and text it to you so you can use it

(40:16):
on your Catch and Bolts podcasts that way. You know, hey,
you never know what you're gonna do. I tell you
when they use it man your shows, you know, I
know you do the Cats and Bolts and the one
I appear on was a Rod Peterson show. But you know,
the more people find out about these little what we
call intangible facts, I've always found in my mind that

(40:37):
if you come up with interesting and tangible facts, okay,
that people will say, wow, I didn't know this. And
the philosophy that I have on this network is my
goal here is to entertain and educate, okay, And as
long as I can do both of those, as somebody
can get something on the show, my goal is to
keep retaining or following based on those important principles. For

(41:00):
those of you that are just joining us, I do
want to repeat that. At the top of the hour,
I unfortunately news came across and that's USF men basketball
head coach Amir abduur Raheem Guy. Today at the age
of forty three, he was undergoing in medical procedure at
a Tampa area hospital and died due to complications. Once again,
rest in peach, coach, and I'm going to ask you

(41:22):
before we get off the air, what's your prediction for
the World Series.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm sure for the Yankees, I have no idea who
is how long it's going to go or who's going
to win. I'll say Yankees in six. Aaron Judge, I
think is going to get hot. They got the offense
right with Soto and glenbar Torres.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You I've been going Yankee seven. I'd like to see
Jen Carlo Stanton finally get a ring. Soto's already got his.
I'm always for guys that definitely have an opportunity to
get rings. And a few Marlins are on there. You
have Jen Carlo Stanton, daism and John Birdie maybe the
track up I ninety five, So I'm with the Yankees
and seven. You know, I have great memories with both

(42:04):
the Dodgers as well as the Yankees. Last night on
the Sports Exchange, I had long time sports media a personality,
Larry Bluestein was on last night and him and I
around the sports. If you haven't watched it's a good
show to watch it and learn a little bit about that.
But the reality to me is, you talk about the

(42:28):
Yankees iconic history, have a chance to get World Series
number twenty eight and have been in like forty some
of these series. But the Dodgers are loaded that you
got a series featuring two of the teams higher payrolls.
And now for this loan situation here, money will definitely
look like get bought a Championships. I'm gonna put Candy
Ling on one more time for our station break and

(42:50):
then we'll call it a night. Rob. Appreciate you to
working a little extra duty tonight, But I told you,
my friend, I was gonna make it worth your while.
But I gotta let you out here a little earlier
so you can get that book. But it won't be
much longer. But she is going to do a station
you bet. Thank You.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Publishing Company published a book, Lessons from the Microphone Tuning
In during Wisdom and visionary leaders. It is written by
your host, Scott the MotorCity mad Mouth morganot that text
about is forty plus years in the media industry and
how it has changed. To get your copy today Barnes
and Noble, Amazon, Kindle, Apple, and Google Books. There's also

(43:29):
a link on Salt Florida Tribune dot com where you
can also find a link to our merchandise store and
the writings of these two fine gentlemen that are on
the show tonight. If you like to listen to podcasts,
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(43:51):
You just never know what we're gonna be talking about,
except on this show we're always talking hockey. You can
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(44:12):
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Back to you, Scott, folks.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
If you haven't seen Rod Peterson's columns, go ahead and
read them. This guy writes some of the best columns
I've ever seen. He really does. If there's a man
that knows his hockey with us inside the United States
outside of the United States, he just simply knows that. Also,
I want to before we end the show, I want
to get that comment about Joshu put up here at
the end. Definitely the suburbs. Don't think the Panthers would

(44:54):
still be here if they stayed in Miami, Joshua if
that's the bullseye if I ever saw one, And that's
why Wayne Heazinga brought him the Sunrise. So I've been
to a Marin Marin Bank Arena, if that's what they're calling.
It's one of the best arenas I've ever been to.
So and I had to have the opportunity in the
NHL All Star A game many years ago. So Rob

(45:14):
great stuff as always. So Meanwhile, we'll look forward to
doing this again next Thursday, same time, same place. My
hope is that I don't have to do another tribute
to another coach or anything like that, but unfortunately rest
in peach coach Abdu Amir abduor raheem. You're going to

(45:35):
be messed, but we love the great work that you did.
You'll let us after twenty five wins and hopefully you'll
lead another great team in heaven. And so Rob looking
forward to being on Rod Show next Friday.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I think so yeah, but we'll we'll have one of
these shows before then. So great work, guys, great work, Candy,
Thank you, Scott, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Enjoy the sports, Enjoy the World Series.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Hey Rob, great job as always. I know what I'm
getting with you. I got a thoroughbread and I'm proud
of I have you as my co host. Same here,
so on, behalf of ROT. This is Scott. Have a
great night. This concludes this edition of Fire Up Florida.
Good night, everybody,
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