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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, Tom and Jerry, I don't know,
Thomas Davis.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
That's it, is it bro.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Drew Brees is right there. What's good, ladies and gentlemen,
and welcome into another episode of the fits Take Podcast.
I'm your guy, JaMarcus Fitzpatrick, but you know you can
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it and become a Fits Take All Star. Elijah, Man,
we are right on the doorstep a football season. We
got fall camps in our respective markets Uil Tennessee. Both
of those colleges are getting rolling training camps are going
on across the NFL. Man, So football season is here,
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Bro is here.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I know the eight in the morning practices killing the brother,
but it's been great.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's just at that time of the year that grind again.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then I know people look at it as a
long stretch because it starts from here and depending on
how far your team go, and but at the same time, hey, look,
it makes the time go by fast and it's enjoyable
because it's a roller coaster ride. No matter what happened
throughout the season and winning streak or losing the street, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A roller coaster ride that you got to prepare for.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, Man, no doubt, and Bro, like you talked about
like storylines, there's so many things that come out of
fall camps. Training camps, so many different things that can
happen contract situations, right, So that that's what's gonna bring
us to our opening take, our first take, which is
talking about the Dallas Cowboys. Man. And you know, we've
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talked about the Cowboys a lot on this channel before.
I've told people before of how I used to be
a Dallas Cowboys fan because I grew up in Streetport,
so the Saints games did not come on. It was
the Cowboys. And the first football that I ever caught
was of the Dallas Cowboys. My pops was a Cowboys fan,
so I was finally in tune with it. But I
had to kick that habit, you know what I'm saying
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a couple of years back. But the Dallas Cowboys are
are dealing with a dispute with their star pass rusher,
mister Michael Parsons. Him and Jerry Jones are just not
on the same page. He wont a long term deal,
Jerry won't give him his money, He adn't talked to
his agent, David Mullagetta. So they dealing with all this
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back and forth. And so Michael Parsons has requested a trade.
Jerry Jones is calling it you know, just a part
of negotiations, and I believe so too. But Elijah, how
do you feel about this? Is Jerry Jones tripping? Does
he need to go ahead and give this man his money?
What do you think about the Michael Parsons situation in Dallas?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I think I think I think Jerry Jones need to
pay that man simply, that's your best defensive player. To me, honestly,
he made everyone around him better. I think Trayvon Davis
uh came off the back of what Michael Parsons could
do at that front line.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And get to the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I think Bland, who had the same season as Trevion Diggs,
basically did the same thing of you know, when Michael
Parsons off his back. I think when you have somebody
at edge rusher, especially in today's game. I mean back
in the day the same way, but in today's game
where quarterbacks are dropping back to these deep five to
seventh step and you've got a guy who got a
quick first step and he could take on a left
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tackle or get to a double and get past the
double teams to put pressure on the quarterback. That's somebody
that's that's very vital to the defense, and I think
because he can do.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That and he did do that since he was in
a Cowboys helmet, he's one of those guys that should
be paid.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I know people are going to look at it like, oh,
he was hurt last year. He wasn't a little banged up.
But at the end of the day, like that's football.
Injuries happened. It wasn't like it was a major injury.
It wasn't like it was anything lingering. It was just
a course of the season and when and when you're
when you're losing like that, your body feel that pain
because it's just like, well, we're losing out here.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know, Miles Garrett is the same way. You know,
I understand why he came back. But at the end
of the day, I think that when you feel that
that you're about when you start losing, the injuries hurt
a little bit more. And that's that's what it was
for him, I think last day season. But it wasn't
anything major. I don't think his production dropped off at all.
I think he was still one of those top guys
that just was on a bad football When it comes
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to this year and when this year comes around again,
I think that Dak Prescott, who was paid his money,
I think he should feed Michael Parsons too. Now what
I heard was the thing is behind the scenes, he's
got to shook hands behind closed.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Doors, and.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You're gonna shake his hand behind closed doors, and you're
gonna tell him that you're gonna pay him. That's something
that you got to own up to Jerry and I
and I. And the reason why I say that is
because you are to promising this man for money. You're
promising this man that that you know you're gonna make
sure he's taken care of for him. But the thing
about all of this, dude, is how are you going
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to shake that man hand and tell him he's gonna stay?
And not a lot of people sign I don't know,
I mean any free major freeges has signed to Dallas.
For somebody as talented as Michael him to sign to
and want to remain a Dallas cowboy, to tell you
a lot. So with that being said, pay that man,
let him stay and build around that because at the
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end of the day, losing Michael Parsons don't just set
you back for twenty twenty five, but they will probably
set you back into another about twenty thirty, another seven
or ten years.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, man, I have to agree with you with everything.
When you look at Michael Parsons stadline over his four
years in the NFL, thirteen sacks. Twenty twenty one, he
was a All Pro first team All Pro. Twenty twenty two,
he had thirteen and a half sacks. Twenty twenty three
he had fourteen sacks. Last season he had twelve sacks.
So he's had at least twelve sacks all four years
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being in the NFL. He's been a Pro bowler every
single year, a two time All Pro, first team All
Pro member. Like, when you are able to put those
type of numbers up, you deserve your CHELLDA. You're supposed
to get your money. And he's done everything that he
needs to do and now he's doing what he needs
to do in the media space. Right when you look
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at what he's doing, he's grabbing the attention of the media.
He's keeping things circulating, he's keeping things talking. Him posting
that full statement saying hey, I've requested the trade and
blah blah blah blah. He typed it up in the
notes on his iPhone like that is classic gamesmanship. That's
he pulled out his best piece. He pulled it out
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and he said, a Jerry balls in your court. This
is the same thing that Miles Garrett did. What was
that last year or a couple months ago. If that
Miles Garrett did the same thing with the Cleveland Browns,
I'm requesting the trade. Next thing you know, he gets
a bag and resets the market. Michael Parsons is doing
the same thing. Don't get me wrong. Dallas has not
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won anything and forever, but Dallas is one of the
best markets in the NFL. They're the most profitable and
marketable team in the NFL. You want to play for
that team. If you're talking about longevity in your playing
career and also what you can do after football, you're
always going to be talked about in big conversations once
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you leave the Dallas Cowboys. Michael Irvin and Smith, Troy Aikman,
Dion Sanders, the list goes on and on and on.
The Dallas Cowboys helps you in your career and also
outside of your career. So, in my opinion, Michael Parsons
does not want to leave Dallas, but him putting out
this statement and requesting this trade, so to speak is
simply pushing them to cut a deal faster, and I
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think now the ball is in Jerry Jones court. Jerry
has faced a lot of this. I mean he went
down to the wire with Dak Press. Dak Prescott given
him an extension. I think it was a Sunday morning
before like a week four or five football game. Dallas
gave him the deal, He signed it, and they announced it.
Three years, one hundred and something million dollars. It was
whatever the numbers was, making him the highest paid quarterback
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in the NFL whatever. I think he might have been
one to eighty because I think he's getting like sixty
million a year or something like this, sixty sixty through
something in their range, whatever the market value is. Give
Michael Parsons that money because he's earned it. I get it.
You never want to give somebody too much because he's
looking at it as a you know, a business owner,
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and as a business owner, you're saying, I'm not paying
you for what you've done, I'm paying you for what
you can do for me in the future. Right, Michael
Parsons is twenty six bro He's been in the league
for four years, and all four years he's been able
to produce what. You think he's not gonna get better,
you think he's gonna regress right now. He's in a
position that is not like a running back. Like a
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running back after that first contract, you look and see
how many miles they got on him, how many how
much you're using them, and all that stuff like that,
and you're able to pay and based on that. That's
why the running back position has been fighting so much
to get paid. But this man is a pass rusher.
He goes after the quarterback. That is quarterback, left tackle, edge.
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Those are your three most important and mostly highest paid
positions in football, and it's because what they do affect
the games. They're game changers in the positions that they play.
So I tip my head to Michael Parsons because he
out gaming Jerry Jones in this situation. Now. I think
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I've seen a quote somewhere that Jerry was saying something
like this is like the mom and dad situation, and
that you know, Jerry is the dad, and I guess
David Mouligella is the mama and all this stuff like,
I don't know whatever it is. Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones,
Tom and Jerry I don't know. All y'all get on
the phone called David Mulligeta, make an offer, see how
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it goes, and see if y'all can get this deal done. Man,
So you're not letting all this loom all throughout the season,
because yeah, Micah is requesting his trade, but he's still
at training camp. He's holding in still at training camp.
He ain't going nowhere. And if you keep letting this loom,
it's just going to continue to push this narrative of man.
This is what's holding the Dallas Cowboys back. And obviously
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I don't think Jerry cares. I don't think he cares
at all. But you just gotta get this deal there.
You gotta let this go, and you gotta go ahead
and make the deal happen and make Michael Parsons the
highest paid pass rusher in the NFL. You gotta do it.
You gotta do it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So I agree, I agree, don't trade am go.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No. I mean, there's a ton of places that Michael
could go and affect defense and could be traded to.
But bro, it just don't make sense to let that
man go. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It just don't what's the accent price?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Though the highest amount. I mean, you're talking about a
four time Pro bowler, a two time All Pro defensive
end that gives you double digit sacks automatically. Michael Parts
is gonna give you ten sacks regardless of what team
he's on. So you're talking about at least a first
round and maybe a player or two. You're talking about
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a couple high end picks, a first and maybe a
second and a player. You're gonna you're gonna have to
cough up some bread. This ain't gonna be no crumbs.
You're gonna have to give up the whole loaf to
get a pass rusher like a twenty six year old
four time Pro bowler. Come on, man, that's I don't
even know if how many teams is really in position
to do that right now? No, pay the manager, give
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me his money. Stop playing, and go ahead and get
this done. All right, guys, we're gonna go ahead and
move forward to take number two and the twenty twenty
five Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony happened last weekend,
Sterling sharp Fire finally getting in him and Shannon being
the first brotherly duo to go into the Pro Football
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Hall of Fame. It was Sterling Sharp, it was Jared Allen,
Eric Allen, and I'm missing one other person that I
cannot think of right off the top of my head,
but I know it was four. And I know Hall
of Fame classes have kind of changed the numbers over
the years of the number of people that go in
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every single year. Like, I know, shit, back when we
were kids, bro, Like I think it was like nine
or ten, like the number was way different now. But
now they're making these classes a lot smaller and it's
a lot different. So congratulations to those guys. But you know,
every time a class goes in, you're always looking at all, right,
who could be in next year's class. So the list
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of players that are first time eligible for the Pro
Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty six include
these guys. Larry Fitzgerald, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers. Oh, Antonio
Gates was the other guy. That's what made me remember,
because I remember he was talking to Philip Rivers. So
Larry Fitzgerald, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Jason Whitten, Frank Gore,
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Julian Edelman, Marquise Pouncy, Mike Penncy, Leshawn McCoy, Thomas Davis,
greg Olsen, Alex Smith, Dez Bryant, Steven Guskowski, Geno Atkins,
David Dicastro, Sean Lee, Todd Gurley, and Jirell Casey. So
an extensive list of players. We getting to the point now, bro,
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This just how you know we're starting to get old
now because all these boys, every last one of them.
I remember when they came into the league. I remember
when they came out of the league. We get into
the head. Boy, but we get old now, you feel me?
But how do you feel about these potential guys? And
out of those lists of guys that I rattled off
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and I can screen shut this to you and send
it to you, so you take a look at it,
who are some guys that you feel like are no doubters?
Like absolutely, this brother is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Who is some guys that you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
First ballot? I don't want to say Marky's bouncy still
a center?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Does that? See? Huh?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You bro? You list?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm looking sorry, Jason Ware, Jason Ware, will we talk
about these guys?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm sorry, y'all. Let me look at this list, all right,
Larry Fitzgerald, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Jason Waitten, and Markue's Pounty,
Thomas Davis. And that's it, is it?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Drew Brees is right there? What that said? That's it?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh yeah, that's that's why I remember at first. Wait wait,
I think, wait, whoever played for the Stealers. I don't
remember it was Marquis or Mike, but I think it was.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think Mike played for Mike.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So Mike, so Mike. Okay, this is my first bat.
Now I'm looking at the list, Mike. They said win,
Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald and Thomas Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, my bad, it was Markue's played for the Steelers,
might play for the Dolphins and the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, so yeah, Mark, I'm right, Marquees, Jason Witten, Drew Brees,
Larry Fitzgerald, and Thomas Davis.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That's it you. But you're gonna get a lot of slander.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I am you.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Off that list, because man, you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Know what, this is how I personally feel about what
you know what, because I believe what Deon said was right,
Like everybody is not a Hall of Fame, and these
guys don't get me wrong, Todd Gurley.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was my favorite RAMS running back. I know Marshall
falling system, but Todd Gurley was my favorite RAMS running back.
But when you talk about when it comes to like
body of the work and where you're at when all
this was said and done, there's people up here that's
only up there.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And I'm talking about for real, Jason Witten, Drew Brees
and Philip and Larry's and Philip and and Marquise Marquise
has he has he had a solid career as well.
But when you talk about Alex Smith, all on top,
David Thomas Davis, But when you talk about Alex Smith,
Greg Olsen, Dez Bryant, you know, these guys were in
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the middle of the pack. To me, like they were
like they were pro bowlers. They were good, but.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
They weren't like somebody I'd be like, you know, that
was like separate, like separated themselves that much. Frank Gore
to me, when we talk about top running backs, Frank
Gore was good. He was one of the best when
it came down to it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But when we talk about top running backs of all time,
we're not talking about top ten of Frank we're not
talking about That's Bryant, who had a heck of a
heck of a career with Dallas. But when we talk
about top receivers, when we talk about the real deal receivers.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
We're not talking about Dez Bryant.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
When we picked, when we talk about the Cowboys franchise,
nobody's talking about Dez Bryan is the best in the
Cowboys franchise here. So that's what I'm saying, Like with
these guys, Uh, I'm sorry, It's just like as much
as I root for Todd Gurley and I would love
him up there, Tory hass not even in the Hall
of Fame, and Tory hall had was a better ram
than Todd Gurley was. But Todd Gurley to me was
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I was like, that was my big He was the biggest,
the biggest guy that I was. I would follow and
I thought he was like gonna be the next real deal.
Injury slowed him down. We know that story with the me.
And then he started getting one yard touchdowns. He was
getting from like seventy yard touchdowns to just one yard touchdowns.
But when I come down to it, the only real now,
the real, real, real first ballots and I'm sorry if
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I'm saying this really really will be Jason Whitten and
Drew Brees. That's really it. Marky spouts, those are my three.
I know, I know y'all go hate, but I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I love Larry, I love Larry.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
But he hasn't That's not one of my top receivers
that I would think about.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
When this game is all said and done.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I love how much I love Frank Gore, He's not
one of the top guys. Lashawn McCoy, how much I
love Lashawn McCoy, he is not one of the top
guys when it's all said and down. So that's that's why,
like I would have those four Drew Brees, Jason Whitten,
Marquis Pouncy and who else.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I said, hey, man, this is your list. I ain't
even I ain't put on this at all that those
are my three, oh man.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Because we talked about top guys, Drew Brees, top ten
and passing yards. Jason Whitten was one of the top
tight ends out there, but he's not you think about you.
He's one of the top tight ends that was out there.
And Marquis Pouncy had a very solid career, very very
soliderbord when we talk about officer linement.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But that's what it is, man, This I ain't gonna
lie this. This this class is gonna be tough. Which
I don't know what the protocol is of how many
is supposed to go into the Hall of Fame class
or why they might have strengthened down to smaller numbers.
But this one, I feel like it's gonna be tough
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to put it at four because Drew Brees is a
first ballot Hall of Famer, Like he always kind of
got lost in the shuffle because of the championship conversation,
Like obviously he got that one there in New Orleans
that is gonna rain forever in the city because of
what he was able to do, not just winning that championship,
but what he stood for as a community leader. But
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I mean every single year, bro, we felt like Drew
was thrown for fold to five thousand yards every single year,
and he was doing it in a place in a
market that is not a Dallas, that is not a
New York, that is not a Miami. Like, it's not
a Los Angeles, it's not in Atlanta, it's not a
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big extravagant market, like New Orleans as a phenomenal city,
but when you think about it as a bigger market,
people not checking for New Orleans first. But when Drew
was on the field, they was checking for New Orleans
every single time, and then he was doing it. Like
the reason that he had to play at the level
that he had to play at BRUH was because some
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of them years the team wasn't all of that, Like
it was a stretch where they was going seven or
nine I think like three straight years somewhere in like
the twenty tens. I think it was like he had
to throw for as many yards as he did for
the team to make it to seven and nine. That's crazy, man.
You look at him, you look at Larry Fitzgerald. I
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think those two guys have to go in. And then
like for me too, I think about when you look
at that logo, who are players that are synonymous with
that logo. Drew Brees is synonymous with the New Orleans
Satans logo, Larry Gerald is synonymous with the Arizona Cardinals logo.
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Those two guys for sure. After that, I think you
can go Jason Witten, I think you can go Lashawn
McCoy because I looked it up and I think he's
somewhere in the top twenty five of all time rushers.
This is according to ESPN, So like Emmitt is number one,
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Walter is two, Frank Gores three. Frank Gor's number three
all time. So I didn't know that either. I mean,
I guess because how many years he's played. Lashawn McCoy's
number twenty three, And you know, Frank Gore to me
is also a guy that's synonymous with a lot of teams.
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But I think when I think the forty nine is no,
that's what I think of Frank Gore for sure. Philip
rivers Man is kind of very similar to Drew Brees.
I don't know if they'll give him first ballot, but
I definitely think he should go in at some point.
I don't I don't for me, I don't know if
I'm putting him in first ballot. It's kind of tough, man,
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it really is. It's tough. It's tough because it's like, bro,
you can't put everybody in first ballot all the time.
You can probably put him in, but.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I wasn't first ballot. That's what That's why It's like
when people be like, oh man, Chad Singel still not
in the Hall of Fame and then chat to be
had a better cred than the shoe McCoy. I just said,
it's just like it's it's.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What and what?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
But I just feel like dog like it's it's I
don't know what the list is sometimes, but when you
talk about like to me, when you talk about top
players in that organization and we talk about top.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
People, then that's what's gonna be around.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Like Drew Brees was one of the top and what
do he and even the story that he did off
you know, after the Katrina situation, he still like that that.
I guess I don't if that's gonna play into it,
but it should. That plays into it. He's top ten
of passing yards. He he did, he did his work,
you know, and that's why I say, okay, first battle Withdrew.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
With Jason Whitten, he was what top ten and.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But I know that he was one of those guys
that you know for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
He was.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
He was one of those guys where everything worked around him.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Then desbrid started to make his name outside of that
and everything, but everything was working inside and out when
it was with Tony Romel, So it wasn't like a
it wasn't like he was a bad tight end. It's
just that you know, Brock and all these other guys
that was in front of him. That's what made it whatever.
But when we talk about Hall of Famers, when we
talk about Hall of Famers, were you that consistent game
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changer where you could be like, when it's all said
and done, your name would remember forever. And I'm not
saying that Frank Gore was trash. I'm not saying was
trash because they were really great at what they did.
I'm not saying Larry Fitzgerald was trash. What I'm saying
is we're seeing guys that's getting left out all the time,
like Chad Johnson, Tory Hall. Those guys are just as impactful,
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but you can't like it. It's just I don't know
what the subjective is, but those guys are in the
same clip tier to me like nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm gonna say, my class is gonna be six, so
I'm gonna go Larry Fitzgerald, Drew Brees, Jason Whitten. Jason
Whitten is twenty all time and receiving yards, Larry Fizzgerild's second,
so Larry Drew, Jason Witten, Frank Gore, Lashaw McCoy, Thomas Davis.
Those are my guys. I think that a lot of
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these other guys you know, will eventually get in. Maybe
the only one that I could see taking a while
to get in is maybe like Alex Smith, just because
like his body of work probably isn't as impressive, but
he's had an extensive career and obviously like his story
with everything that happened with his leg, all that stuff
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like that, like that was a tremendous comeback story, but
full body of work. Man. I think it's got to
be those six guys. But we not the committee. They
might go a three person class like it's been. It's
changed every year. I don't know what the criteria meets.
I don't know what the number is the magical number,
but for me, the number is six for next season.
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I think it's got to be those guys. And see
we saying these guys that are first ballot, it's other
guys that are like a Fred Taylor that has been
like a semi finalist almost every single year. It's like,
when does he get in, Like, don't Jo Sinko, When
does he get in? Like it's tough, man, it's tough.
It's tough. But I'm if I'm feeling like some guys
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that have to go in, which is why I think
the class next year might have to be a little
bit bigger. Those six guys have to be first ballot.
They have to go in in my opinion. So we'll see, guys,
We'll see. We'll see guys. Let's go to take number
three and h we got some documentaries that are that
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are premiering man, So as of us recording this episode
on August the fifth, Tuesday, it is Hard Knocks will
be premiering on HBO with the Buffalo Bills, and then
also the documentary on Netflix will followed the the sec
for all the last season is premiering as well. As
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we look at some of these different things coming out
and documentaries that are happening, Elijah, what do you think
they're able to do for like the growth of the sport,
like as a storytelling aspect, kind of peeking behind the curtain.
What do you feel like that's able to do for us?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think I think we get to know these players
a little bit more. You know, I can't wait to
see some of the aspects of the storylines for teams
because I know I've seen one clip where they told
Garrett's prior to come back, and if you come back,
I think with I think Week said it. He was
just like, hey, if you come back, we definitely can
win national championship. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I think that, you know, we can see that aspect
because this is stuff that we don't see on TV
every day. We don't know them when really and then
when practice is over, we're asking them about their you know,
their fit, their takes and how they feel about practice
and things like that. Other than that, we don't really
get to know these guys, and I think this is
a time for, you know, to get a deeper look
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into what their lives look like, maybe you know, on
and off the field, but so much more off the field.
I mean, the SEC already got high expectations no matter
what team it is. I mean, you know, I don't
like I want to say about thirteen teams in the SEC.
I think it's thirteen, six or seven of them have
high expectations. That's that's like more than half. So you know,
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how do they deal with these expectations and how they
deal with a winning season or a losing season, or
what does a winning season look to like to how
do they prepare for next year? And how did this happen?
So I just can't wait to see how they document it,
how it's looked, how everything works, because at the end
of the day, I think that you know, sports, it's
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not everything, but it's a major deal and what America's
salary is, and I think that you know, us getting
a bigger look into what these guys life is on
and off the field. I think that it's gonna be good.
I can't wait to see it, though, honest, I can't
wait to see the production side of it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
How they use to yeah, man, like when it comes
to like behind the scenes and like production and storytelling
and all that. Like I'm a junkie for all this stuff,
like give me this, like and I always have been
interested to see, like what is the process of like
doing all these interviews, getting all this footage, and like
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figuring out how do you condense it into a forty
five minute episode of you know, hour long episode. How
do you condense it down to be able to tell
those stories so well, Like you mentioned so many of
these SEC teams. I think it's sixteen that I just counted.
So many of these SEC teams. Man are million generating
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millions and millions and millions of dollars from a Georgia
to Florida to an LSU in Alabama, Texas, Texas, A
and M. Like they generating tons and tons of money,
and so like just figuring out how they're balancing that
while also trying to win games. That's the ultimate thing.
Like I've seen in the trailer, Brian Kelly says something like,
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you know, I'm putting my livelihood in the hands of
eighteen to twenty one year olds, and that's the truth. Like,
how is a coach like him managing that? Like we
be seeing these coaches fussing. You know, we done been
walking sidelines and covering these teams for so many years.
We see them when they fussing, and it kind of
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makes sense, like, hey, bro, if you don't catch this past,
I can't feed my family. That that's that's a lot,
that's a lot of stress. Then, not to mention on
top of that, you have to go out and you
have to recruit, not just for the year that's upcoming,
you have to recruit for the year after that. You
have to be prepared in the future. So like your brain,
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bro is an overload overdrive all the time because you like, Man,
all right, so we got this five star commit for
this year, but this full star for the next year. Man,
he's got us in his top five right now, and
he's got us at number five. We need how can
we get to number two? How can we get to
number one? Like you're constantly working your brain. That's why
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somebody like a Kirby Smart, you know, like a Billy
nay Pier, like a Mike Elko, like a Steve Sarkisian,
like those guys being the type of coaches that they are.
It also is going to give us an opportunity to
see I hope it's gonna give us an opportunity to see. Man,
what are some of these staff meetings looking like? What
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are some of those conversations looking like behind closed doors
where we're able to see how do they come to
the conclusion of how do they get a starting quarterback?
How do they get the start and running back? How
do they build the game plan out? Like I want
to see that, Like, don't just get these boys plays
away and all this stuff like that, but like give me,
give me a little let me see a little bit,
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you know what I'm saying. And this is you know
that goes into hard knock. Hard Knocks has been doing
this for years and I love it. Like I've been
watching it, bruh since Dog one, like the Dallas Cowboys one,
which I think it was like seven or eight. I've
been watching every year, like as many many of them
as I can. Even went back and watched the Baltimore
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Ravens one, the very first one. So like these are
always really really good for just the storytelling aspect us
getting to learn about these players and these coaches and
almost humanizing them because we see these kids, we see
these athletes with these hundreds of thousands of followers, these
millions and millions of dollars, and we put them on
a pedestal as these celebrities and these role models and
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all this stuff. But at the end of the day,
all of them are just regular people, just like anybody else.
And so this gives us the chance to see them
in that in that human light for sure. So I'm
a for show be tapped in once I get back
to the crib later to night, I'm a show be
tapped in. I'll probably tap in with Hard Knocks first.
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I don't know, I have to see what time and premieeres,
but I'll tap in with one of the other and
keep it rolling, bro, try to go in and knock
it out to see.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I just think.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I just think that with all these teams, all these
teams being a part of it, I just think that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
One they should let us be in there too, to
us local media. But I want to I want to
be a part of some of the conductions too. I
want to see what it's like.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But I also, like you just said, it's just what's
what's gonna come down to, is you know, getting people
look at how programs are because you know, on outside end,
were just fans. We're not just we're fans, and with
some of the reporters are just looking at how things
are running operated day in day out, if you know,
you know, as a reporter, you know, but now you
get to see it more of what the athletes, uh
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they're with their takes on some of the stuff of
how things are going. I just hope that it's well
edited though, like I don't. I hope that it's not
pieced together because I don't. You know, some some documentaries
aren't the best, like for instance, I mean this has
nothing to do with Netflix things, but on my plane
ride back home, I was watching like the Tuparts documentary.
It was trash and it wasn't it was just well,
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it wasn't well put together. So this one, I just
hope they really put it together, you know, mix, mix
and match and that sounds and their backgrounds and how
they tell the stories of each players, of what players
they selected.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I'm wondering who produced it because I know all my
hot productions, the Mannings, they've been dropping some good documentaries.
They did Unreal with the WWE. Their documentary just came
out last week and I watched it. It was really good.
They do good stuff. So I'm wondering. I'm interested to
see who's gonna be the it might be. I know
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Smack Entertainment is another good production company that's out there.
I'm I'm I'm interested to see, Hey man, you know
I got a production company, like, let's let's do a documentary.
Let's hey u L Let's let's do a documentary. Let's
let's work together, let's create a partnership. You know, we
can do that too, but should be fun, man, and
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we'll be We'll be watching that, uh to see what
those episodes look like. With that, guys, We're going to
round out the show with our fits take. And like
we talked about at the beginning of the episode, it's
fall camp training camp season, and one of the biggest
things that you always see right now is camp stats.
You see people tallying how many throws these quarterbacks have,
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and team periods and seven on seven and how many
touchdowns they throw, how many interceptions they throw, their completion percentage,
all of those things like that. And I feel like
it was JJ Watt that saw it and Court tweeted
and was like, man, like this is actually happening. Like
I had heard about it, but I didn't know that
people actually are doing this, So I feel like we
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should talk about it. Like we're seeing so many quarterback
competitions that are happening, whether at the collegiate or the
professional level, and these training camp stats, these fall camp
stats are coming out Elijah for you, do you feel
like any of these stats matter? Are they you know,
too much? Are they too little? What do you make
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of training camp stats?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I don't care about it. Make I don't care about
it in the sense of like because of who going
against I mean ones to me are always running with
the ones like, so I mean, what we really care
about it at that point. And plus on top of that,
I expect and there's nothing against other corners. But say
if Jamar Chase was going against somebody on the sense
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of that, I already expect that time. Often if they
was doing ten favor so I expect seven of them
or eight touchdowns. So it's like, I don't really care
about that fact of it when they're practicing each other.
But what I do care about is when they start
practicing against other teams. Now I don't care how you
do it statistically or other stuff like that. I do
think that when you start going against other teams, that
should be documented because most of these guys aren't playing
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preseason games anyway, and this is our best way to
look at it. And if you count those stats, then
probably I'll look at it. It's a tad bit different
depending on how the story's told. But when you're talking
about just looking at a team, the same team versus
the same team, like the ones versus the ones, or
the ones versus the twos.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I really don't expect.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't really don't care for it because something like
let's say it's a quarterback competition going on, and say,
if I don't know, Chador and Joe Flacco were both
out there, and Shador ran with the threes and Joe
ran with the ones, and Joe's stat with the ones
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was like six for seventeen with two touchdouts and interception,
and Chador, who ran with the threes, was like, you know,
ten for ten with three touchdowns with you know, out
of it like oh shit, door, whoa. But if you
look at it again, he running with the threes. Most
of the threes ain't really going to make the team
unless they go lest they go unsigned as a draft
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as signed as a practice player. I'm sorry, So again,
I just don't think that stats like that don't matter now,
Like I said, but when they start playing against other
teams in those fall practices, maybe depending on how I
would look at it, because most of them don't play
preseason games. But right now, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, man, I think that this is kind of just
something at us as media or guilty of creating to
help try to create more insight for the typical fan
that can't come to practice every single day and that
we're looking at all. Right, But when we got to
eleven on eleven period, and you know, Shadur went up
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and he had five plays and all those five passes
that he threw, he had four completions and two of
them were touchdowns. And then Joe Flacco got up and
he was one of five, and blah blah blah. And
I think when it comes to preseason camps, man fall camp,
for college training camp, for NFL, I think it's the
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full body of work. It's everything. Like you can't have
a guy that only comes alive during the live periods.
But then when you're doing you know, riding the side,
or you're doing you know, handing the ball off with
the running backs or just any small little details anything
an individual and they kind of just loafing around and
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they're not locked into it. You don't want that got
to be your starter because they're not paying attention to
the little details. And if you're not paying attention to
the little details, eventually that adds up to bigger things
and bigger problems because all right, yeah, you might light
it up throwing the football, but when time comes time
for run game and we say make a decision on
this read option read the end, you can't even get
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the snap off and you can't put it into the
running backs belly and you can't make a decision. It's
the full body of work. It's the team periods, it's
the seven on sevens, it's the individuals. It's the one
on one drills. Like you know, I've seen people talk
about like one on one drills between receivers and dbs,
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and it's like, that's not real football. That's not real football.
Because when the receivers lined up one on one with
a cornerback, if he beats him on a slant route
and he catches the pass, fine, that's cool, Verry. Seldom
will that be happening a lot in a game because
he might make the route, run the route as the slant,
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and a linebacker is buzzing over there in the flats
or safety is robbing down to go in break on
the pass, and if it's a good quarterback, they gonna
see that. They're not gonna throw that slant. They're gonna
go the opposite direction and go to their second read.
So there are other instances that happen in camp that
just aren't real life football situations. So you have to
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take the full body of work. You have to take
everything into account when it comes to determining a starting quarterback,
starting running back, a number one receiver, tight end. You
know who's your best left tackle, who's your starting center.
You got to take everything into account because at the
end of the day, camp is just about who's good
in competition situations. You want to see what guys are
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able to withstand competition, Like who's willing to compete? All right,
we in one on one drills with the offensive line,
and you gotta face off against this defensive end that
you've seen in team period, that you've seen in run period,
that you've seen in inside. Now you got to beat
them in one on ones. Are you gonna buckle down,
lock in and say, let me compete and win this rep.
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Or are you gonna be like, man, I got the
job locked up already, you know, out of face them already,
out and beat them in team period, out and beat
them inside. Ain't no reason to know you don't want
that either, So like I said, it's the full body
of work. It's looking at everything, and that's why, like
fall camp, stats are just a metric that us as
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the media have created to give more insight to fans.
But it's not the end all be all. Just because
the quarterback, the third string quarterback, has a better completion
percentage than who has been penciled in as the number
one quarterback does not mean the number three quarterback needs
to be your starter. It has to be the full
body of work. It has to be everything that goes
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into So the stats are cool and all to go
in web stories, to go in articles. It looks really good.
It gives more insight, like I said, for fans, but ultimately,
that's not what's gonna win anybody a job, and it's
not gonna win anybody football games or championships. That's not
at the end of the day. So you got anything else, man, Man,
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I'm ready for the season to kick off.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Man, I know we got a cople more weeks before
we get into August thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
For most college football.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Teams, that's gonna be one of those one weekends. Then
I was just sorry some parts of this text. Lady
fact she's getting ready for Chris Brown. So we like,
we getting ready for this. That's gonna we get this
is gonna be. It's gonna be a fun, fun, fun month.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
No doubt, man, no doubt. Well with Dad, Elijah and
everybody watching. Thank y'all so much for watching this episode
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