NFL Immortals #10: Don Hutson

It's time to dust off the time machine and REALLY test it's limits. We're going further back than we ever have before.. all the way back to the 1940's to recap the career of a Packers legend.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
What's going on everybody, Guys and girls, Welcome back to
another installment of NFL of Mortals, the tenth installment of
NFL Mortals right here on the Football Function Podcast. As always,
I am one of the hosts of the show, Michael Ritter.
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is another way you can get in touch with us there.
It's been a while since we've talked, obviously, just enjoying
the summer, doing what I can to get in here
when I can and talk to you guys. But I
am excited to get into this episode of nfl I Mortals.
Going way way back. This is our first actual throwback here,

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but I feel like it was kind of long overdue
for me to talk about one of the old school guys,
especially a pillar of the wide receiver position. And obviously
we'll get into who this episode is about and all
of the fine details breaking down this player, but first
and foremost, happy July. Today's July first barely. I mean,

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it's pretty late ten thirty when I'm recording this. Like
I said, guys, it's tough getting these episodes in, getting
time to record, but we do what we can, and
we try as hard as we can, and that's just
sometimes what it leads to is us having a late
night recording. But I don't really anticipate this episode taking
a whole long or a whole lot of time, like
just being completely transparent using the research and you know,

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the breakdown and the Wikipedia stuff for this player in particular,
I don't feel like they necessarily skipped over anything, but
I just feel like that I feel like it was
summarized really well, so they're able to go through his
entire you know, youth, college, professional career, so on and
so forth. But as I'm sure you've already seen from

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the title and just kind of knowing what's going on here,
this episode is about Don Hudson, and Don Hudson is
pretty much one of the most legendary football players of
all time, one of the most legendary NFL players of
all time. He you know, you're gonna learn a lot
about him, some of the facts. Former Green Bay Packer.
One of the most pure and legendary agreement Packers that

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they've ever had. And that says a lot just given
all the players and all the generations that have come
from that historic franchise, but none arguably are more historic
than Don Hudson. He was the first player to get
his jersey retired for the Packers. The things that he
was able to do as a player and as a
coach for this team was pretty crazy. He played on

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both sides of the ball. There's just a different era.
You know, they wore leather helmets, so like that's how
far we're going back today. So I hope you guys
enjoy this, and I am trying as hard as I
can to you know, get to every team. I'm gonna
try to do an immortal for every single you know,
team that we've done here. Technically I've doubled dipped if
you want to, you know, talk about players who have

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went on to different teams. But you know, Devin Hester
Chicago Bears Emms Smith, Dallas Cowboys, Troy Paula Malou, Pittsburgh Steelers,
Jerry Rice, San Francisco forty nine Ers, Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens,
Tony Gonzalez. This is kind of where it gets a
little bit tricky. I guess it got tricky with Jerry Rice,
and and Mis Smith and all the other guys as well,
except for Paula Malou. Obviously, ray Lewis was a lifer

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for the Ravens too, but Gonzalez played for the Chiefs
and Falcons. Rice has a little bit of a longer
list of teams he's played for, same with Devin Hester
and the Nimma Smith obviously, with the Cowboys and Cardinals,
Lawrence Taylor, Michael Vick, Champ Bailey, Don Hudson. That's where
we are here at number ten. So I'm trying to
knock off every team as I'm going through this, just

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to give every team a little bit of a representative
on this list. But like I said, I don't anticipate
this being a very long episode because of the summarization
of this specific player. But we will get into all
the fine details as we roll through this. Obviously, you
guys know, I use Wikipedia and use those fact checkers
to really get a grip and get a grasp of

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what these players brought to the table. And you have
to really go back to look at guys like Don Hudson.
So let's get right into it. Donald Montgomery Hudson, nicknamed
the Alabama Antelope, was an American professional football player and
coach in the National Football League in the era of
the one platoon football. He played as an inn and
SMIT his entire eleven year career with the Green Bay

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Packers under a head coach Curly Lambeau, Hutson led the
Packers to four NFL Championship games, winning three won in
nineteen thirty six, one in nineteen thirty nine, and then
his last one in nineteen forty four. So let's see here,
let's look into some of his information. He wore number
fourteen for the Green Bay Packers. He was an end,

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a safety, and a kicker. Obviously one of the most
legendary wide receivers as well. But the list goes on
and on with this guy. They used him all over
the field. He was born January thirty first, nineteen thirteen,
and he died June twenty sixth, nineteen ninety seven, he
was eighty four years old, and he obviously he was
born in Arkansas, but he died in Rancho Mirage, California.

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He was sixty one, one hundred and eighty three pounds,
so not necessarily the biggest guy. But if you go
back and look at the nineteen forties and fifties and
even sixties, almost when some of these guys were playing,
it wasn't anything too crazy to see us smaller guy
out there. It just might not have been so common
to see them doing the things that Hudson was able
to do. His high school was Pine Bluff College University

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of Alabama. As a player, he was a Green Bay
Packers wide receiver and many other things from nineteen thirty
five to nineteen forty five, and then he also coached.
From nineteen forty four to nineteen forty eight, he was
an assistant coach. So really quickly, I'm just going to
go through some of his accolades before we get into
his chronological journey. Here. Three time NFL champion, two time

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NFL MVP, eight time First Team All Pro, four time
Pro Bowler, eight time NFL receptions leader, seven time NFL
receiving yards leader, nine time NFL receiving touchdowns leader, So
clearly this dude was routinely the best wide receiver in football.

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Five time NFL scoring leader. You know that's something that
isn't easy to do as well, and then you know
we get into some of the more tricky things. He
was an NFL interceptions leader from nineteen forty to nineteen
forty four, or I apologize just nineteen forty. He was
a five time NFL scoring leader from forty to forty four,

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so it was all consecutive, but the interceptions co leader
was in nineteen forty, which is extremely impressive to have
that on your resume. He was part of the NFL's
nineteen thirties All Decade Team, the NFL's fiftieth Anniversary Team,
the NFL seventy fifth Anniversary Team, and the NFL's one
hundredth Anniversary team. So he's someone that is, through the

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test of time, been able to keep his name relevant
and just the legacy that he's left continues to live on.
And that's just kind of what happens. Whenever you play
for an organization like Green Bay, they really appreciate their
history and a lot of their fans, they like to
brush up on it and they like to kind of
be familiar with the Packers teams before them. But he's

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also in the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame. Green
May Packers retired his number fourteen. He's a national champion
at the University of Alabama, Consensus All American in nineteen
thirty four, first team All SEC in nineteen thirty four,
and the year before that he was thirteen All SEC
in nineteen thirty three. There's a lot of records that
he holds, and you know, maybe we'll get into that

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a little bit later, but just looking at his career statistics,
which is crazy to think about, giveing he played ten
years and some of these stats really, I mean they're
not you know, if you look at some of the
guys in a more pass happy league, like some of
the guys that have passed him, it's crazy, you know,
Like because he only had four hundred and eighty eight
catches for seven nine hundred and ninety one yards, so

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nine yard shy of an eight thousand yard career, ninety
nine receiving touchdown, so one touchdown shy man, if only
he could have gotten that nine yard touchdown, could have
really solidified this this career, but he also had thirty
interceptions won safety. So this dude just had you know,
crazy production all over the field and got him in

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the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Let's continue this on.
Hudson joined the Packers in nineteen thirty five and played
eleven seasons before he retired in nineteen forty five. He
led the league in receiving yards in seven separate seasons
and led the league in receiving touchdowns in nine seasons.
A talented safety on defense, he also led the NFL
in interceptions in nineteen forty He is the only player

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to lead the league in receiving touchdowns and interceptions in
the same season. Hudson was an All Pro selection eight
different times, four time All Star, and twice awarded the
Joe F. Carr Trophy as the NFL MVP. Hudson is
considered to have been the very first wide receiver in
the quote unquote modern era, not necessarily the era itself,

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but the way that the receiver position is modernized in
today's football. It's credited to Don Hudson, and he's also
credited with creating many of the modern past catching routes
just pretty much. You know, the route tree that you
have a lot of that came from him. He just
kind of would aught up in the sand. This is
how I'm getting open, this is how I can beat
these cornerbacks. And the routes eventually got names, and we're

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used routinely, not only by the Green Bay Packers, but
other teams throughout the NFL. He was the dominant receiver
of his day and is widely considered one of the
greatest receivers in NFL history. Hudson was the first one
thousand yard receiver in the NFL. He held almost all
major receiving records at the time of his retirement, including
career receptions, yards, and receiving touchdowns. He was inducted as

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a charter member of both the College Football Hall of
Fame and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, meaning that
the very first class. Like whenever you decide, I like
it's time, we've had some legendary players throughout this league.
It's time we create a Hall of Fame. And Hudson
was obviously a part of that class. But let's see here.
Hutson's number fourteen was the first jersey retired by the Packers.

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He is a member of the Green Bay Packers Hall
of Fame and was selected to the NFL fiftieth Anniversary
All Time Team as one of the greatest players of
the NFL's first fifty years in nineteen sixty nine to
the seventy fifth in nineteen ninety four, and obviously the
one hundredth in twenty nineteen. So let's go back a
little bit look at his early life. John Hudson was
born on January thirty first, nineteen thirteen, in Pine Bluff, Arkansas,

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one of three sons of Roy B. Hudson and Mabel
Clark Hudson. He was a boy scout and played with
snakes as a child, and he said that that's where
he got his quickness and agility. As a teenager, Hudson
played baseball for Pine Bluff's town team. As a senior
at Pine Bluff High School, he was an All state
basketball player, which he said was his favorite sport. He

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was quoted saying, I'm like most athletes. I'd rather see football,
but I'd rather play basketball. Hudson played one year of
football at Pine Bluff. Paul bear Bryant once remarked he
was something to see. Even then, we'd hitchhike to Pine
Bluff just to watch him play. I saw him catch
five touchdown passes in one game in high school. Going
on to college, he played at end pretty much on

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the defensive side of the ball for Frank Thomas's Alabama
Crimson Tide football team from nineteen thirty two to nineteen
thirty four. Bear Bryant the future head coach of the
Alabama Crimson Tide longtime coach. He was the other end
on the other side for two seasons thirty three and
thirty four as well, so teammate of one of the
greatest college coaches of all time, one of the most
historic coaches at the University of Alabama, and you were

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his teammate. So I mean, I feel like there were
signs pretty early on. You know. Obviously it's easy in
retrospect and in hindsight to see it. I'm not sure
if anyone in the moment realized, Yeah, Paul bear Bryant's
going to be one of the greatest coaches to ever live.
But the fact that they were on the same defensive
line is just pretty wild to think about. Sports writer

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Morgan Blake ranked the undefeated nineteen thirty four tied as
the best team he ever saw. Hudson's college Football Hall
of Fame profile reads fluid in motion, wondrously elusive with
the fake, inventive in his patterns, and magnificently at ease
when catching the ball. Hudson and fellow Hall of Famer
Millard Howell became football's most celebrated passing combination. Hudson had

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six catches for one sixty five yards, including two touchdowns
of fifty four and fifty nine yards in the nineteen
thirty five Rose Bowl game against Stanford. He also scored
the winning touchdown over Robert Neiland's Tennessee Volunteers on an
end around. Hudson was recognized as a first team All
American by six different organizations and received a second team
selection by one other. In an attempt to name retroactive

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Heisman Trophy winners before its first year of nineteen thirty six,
Hudson was awarded it for nineteen thirty four by the
National Football Foundation. Georgia Tech coach Bill Alexander once said,
all Don Hudson can do is beat you with clever
hands and the most baffling change of pace I've ever seen,
And now taking a step forward to his professional career.

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When he graduated from Alabama, Hudson did not plan on
playing professionally. In those days, the NFL was not highly
regarded in the South compared to college football. However, Green
Bay Packers head coach Curly Lambo saw the speedy Hudson
as the perfect receiver for an expanded passing attack, which
at the time revolved around the passing of single wing
backs Red Dunn and Arnie Herber to shifty halfback Johnny

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Blood mcnaughley. Before the NFL Draft existed, college players could
sign with any team they wanted, and while Hudson did
sign a contract with Green Bay, he had also signed
a contract with the NFL's Brooklyn Dodgers. Both contracts came
to the NFL office at the time, and NFL President
Joseph Carr declared that Hudson would go to Green Bay,
as the green Bay contract had an earlier date of signing.

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Hudson later claimed he chose the Packers because they offered
the most money three hundred a game that was far
and above what they had ever played a player, said Hudson.
Each week, they'd give me a check for one fifty
from one bank and one fifty from another, so nobody
would know how much I was getting paid. Smart by
them doing a little bit of hustling, trying to keep
the you know, everybody happy there in Green Bay. Obviously,
with the championships that they won, I would say that

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they succeeded in doing just that. Hudson's first catch as
a professional was on an eighty three yard touchdown pass
from Herbert on the first play from scrimmage against the
Chicago Bears in the second game of the nineteen thirty
five season. It was the only score of the game
as the Packers won seven to zero. He caught six
touchdowns total in his rookie season, which led the league.

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It was the first in a string of four seasons
and nine seasons total that Hudson led the league in
touchdown receptions. The nineteen thirty six season brought the Packers
their fourth league title with a twenty one and six
win over the Boston Redskins. In nineteen thirty six NFL
Championship Game, Hudson scored the first touchdown of the game
on a forty eight yard pass from Herber in the

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first quarter. Hudson became the youngest player in league history
to lead the league in both receptions and receiving yardage,
a record not broken until twenty twenty two by Minnesota
Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson's damn think about that. It stood.
Damn near. I don't even want to do the math,
but I mean, you get it, like eighty something years, right,

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we can say it's accurately eighty something years. But nonetheless,
he completed the season with thirty four receptions for five
hundred and thirty six yards and eight touchdowns, which were
all league records. Keep in mind, I mean, guys, a
very different time. Five hundred and thirty six yards the
league record. Baffling to think about now, but this was

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eighty something years ago, So yeah, it's not necessarily too surprising,
or at least it shouldn't be anyway. Yeah, Herber that season,
thanks to his five hundred and thirty six receiving yards
down Hudson, that is, Herber set the NFL season passing
yardage record. Hutson yarded record was broken the next season
by Chicago Cardinals receiver Gainald Tinsley, who challenged Hudson over

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the next few years for the title of the best
receiver in the NFL. In nineteen thirty eight, Hutson in
nine touchdowns receptions, again setting the lead record as he
had led the Packers to another NFL championship game, this
time against the New York Giants. However, a knee injury
he suffered four weeks earlier kept him out of the

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game starting lineup. He entered as a substitute three separate
times late in the game, but was unable to be
a factor, catching no passes as Green Bay was defeated
twenty three to seventeen. Hudson reclaimed the season receiving yard
as record from Tinsley in nineteen thirty nine by catching
thirty four passes for eight hundred and forty six yards,

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an average of twenty four point nine yards per reception,
the highest of his career. He again led the Packers
to the championship game for a rematch against the Giants.
This time, Green Bay was victorious with a twenty seven
to zero shutout win. Hudson had two receptions in the
game for twenty one yards and a rushing attempt that
went for three yards. In nineteen forty Hudson scored seven

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touchdowns and kicked fifteen extra points to lead the league
in scoring by edging out Rams fullback Johnny Drake by
a single point. On September twenty ninth, Hudson caught his
thirty eighth career touchdown pass, breaking Johnny Blood's record with
ninety nine touchdown receptions for his career. He remained the
record holder for almost fifty years until surpassed by the
last touchdown of stiege Art or Steve Largent's career in

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nineteen eighty nine. In nineteen forty one, Hudson became the
first receiver to catch fifty passes in a season, doing
so while again leading the league in receptions, receiving yards,
and touchdowns. He also scored two rushing touchdowns for a
total of twelve. After the season, he was awarded the
Joe F. Carr Trophy as the league's MVP. He received
six of nine first place votes, finishing ahead of his

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quarterback cecil isbel who received two first place votes. Hudson
repeated as league MVP in nineteen forty two as he
shattered most of his own records. He cast seventy four
passes for twelve hundred yards and seventeen touchdowns and averaged
over one hundred and ten receiving yards per game. This
was the first time a receiver had reached the one
thousand yard milestone. He again received six of nine first

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place votes for the Joe F. Car Trophy. The selection
did not rest alone on his great pass catching ability,
reasoned the selection committee also considered wereas nuisance value as
a disruptor of enemy defenses, and his ability to transform
the Packers into a confident, powerful aggregation and clutch situations.
His production helped Isabelle become the first NFL quarterback to

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throw for over two thousand yards in a season. In
February nineteen forty three, Hudson announced his retirement from football
due to a linger and chest injury. He changed his
mind and returned for the nineteen forty three season, however,
and caught forty seven passes for seven hundred and seventy
six yards and eleven touchdowns, leading the league in all three.
He also threw his first and only completed pass of

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his career, a thirty eight yard touchdown pass to Harry
Jakunski against the Bears. Additionally, he successfully kicked thirty six
extra points on thirty six tries and had an eighty
three yard interception return touchdown. After the season, Hudson again
announced his intention to retire as a player, this time
due to be an assistant coach for the Packers. He

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once again returned as the player in nineteen forty four
and again led the league in receptions with fifty eight
yards with eight hundred and sixty six and nine touchdowns
while also serving as an assistant coach. He led the
Packers to the nineteen forty four NFL Championship game against
the Giants and caught two passes for forty seven yards
as the Packers won their third and final championship with
Hudson fourteen to seven. For the third time in as

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many years, Hudson announced his retirement and for the third time,
he returned as a player. In nineteen forty five, A
sportswrider for the Pittsburgh Press jokingly declared Hudson holder of
the world record for coming out of retirement. In a
week three fifty seven to twenty one blowout winn against
the Detroit Lions, Hudson set an NFL record with four
touchdowns receptions in a game, all of them coming in

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the second quarter. He also kicked five extra points in
the quarter for a total of twenty nine points, which
still remains a record for the most points scored by
a player in a single quarter and all, Hudson caught
four eighty eight passes for nine hundred or seven thy
nine hundred and ninety one yards and ninety nine touchdowns.
He rushed for three touchdowns, scored two touchdowns on block punts,

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and had an interception return for a touchdown for a
career total of one hundred and five. He scored at
least six receiving touchdowns in each of his eleven seasons.
Hudson led the NFL in receptions eight times, including five
consecutive times nineteen forty one to nineteen forty five. He
led the NFL in receiving yards seven times, including four
straight times nineteen forty one to nineteen forty four. He

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led the NFL in scoring five times nineteen forty one
to nineteen forty five. As of twenty sixteen, he still
holds the record for highest average touchdown per game for
a receiver with zero point eighty five. And you know,
obviously this says as of twenty sixteen, but I really
think that that still stands. I don't really think any
wide receiver scored the amount that you would have to

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score to take that record away from Hudson. His single
season record of seventeen receiving touchdowns in nineteen forty two
stood for forty two years until broken by wide receiver
Mark Clayton in nineteen eighty four, a year in which
Miami Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino had more completions with three
hundred sixty two than the entire nineteen forty two Packers

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team that had passing attempts two hundred and thirty. So
just a way to kind of highlight and add context
that it was a completely different league. Like Marino threw
the ball three hundred and sixty two times the Packers
or Dan Marino had more completions three hundred and sixty
two then the Packers team had attempts with three hundred
and thirty. So it's apples to oranges. Really. His four

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receiving touchdowns in a game has been surpassed three times
and tied several times, but his four in a single
quarter has yet to be matched. His record ninety nine
touchdown reception stood for forty four years until it was
finally broken by Steve Largent in nineteen eighty nine. Well
into the modern era, and his eleven year professional career,
Hudson never missed a game due to injury. He invented

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many pass routes still in use today, including the chair route,
which if you look at the chair out, what that
really is is like an out and up the way
that it's kind of I guess visualized or if I
can paint a picture for you. Why they called it
the quote unquote chair route is because whenever you're starting
your route, you know you're running your ten to twelve yards,
and then you break to the left or right, preferably

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left in this situation, because you're breaking towards the sideline
trying to sell that out route, and then bam, immediately
cutting up down the sideline getting back up filled. We
refer that, or we refer to that as the out
and up these days. But Hudson apparently named it the
chair route just because, I mean, if you look at it,
like if you actually draw on a piece of paper
when you go up and then out for a few

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yards and then back up filled, you kind of draw
a little bit of a chair. So you might have
to do it yourself or just do it in your
head to fully get the grip there, but at his peak,
Hudson was a challenge to defend, mainly because no one
had ever seen anything like him in the NFL before.
Even when opposing defenses deployed their best defender or multiple
defenders against Hudson, he was almost always able to break free.

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Hudson's ability to beat defenders was remarkable, considering he played
in an era where there were far fewer restrictions on
how and when a defender could legally hit a receiver.
It was initially thought that the six to one, one
hundred and eighty five pound Hudson was too fragile for
the NFL. However, according to Tony Canadio, who played alongside

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Hudson from nineteen forty one to nineteen forty four, Hudson
was as skilled going over the middle as he was
going deep. Let's see. For many of his eleven seasons,
Hudson was also the Packers kicker. He added one hundred
and seventy two extra points on one hundred and eighty
three attempts and seven field goals on fifteen attempts for
another league record eight hundred and twenty three points. He

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led the league in extra points made and attempted in
nineteen forty one, forty two, and forty five, and in
field goals made in nineteen forty three. As did almost
all players in his day, Hudson played both offense and defense.
On defense, he played safety and intercepted thirty passes over
the final six years of his career. His highest season
total was in forty three, when he intercepted eight passes

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in only ten games. In nineteen forty he led the
NFL with six interceptions. Hudson was a player coach during
the last two seasons of his playing career. After his
retirement as a player, Hudson remained on the Packer's staff
as an assistant until nineteen forty eight. From an early age,
Hudson was interested in business. At the University of Alabama,

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I was the only athlete in the business school, He said,
the only reason I wanted to play pro sports was
to get a stake. While both were students at Alabama,
he partnered with Bear Bryant to operate a laundrymatt in
Tuscaloosa called Captain Kid Cleaner's. However, neither were educated in laundering,
and they sold the business after two years. While in

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Green Bay, Hudson opened the Packer Pladium bowling Alley, which
proved moved so successful that he twice considered retirement from
football to fully dedicate his time to its operation. He
then started the Hudson Motor Car Company dealership, and in
nineteen fifty one purchased Chevy and Cadillac agencies in Racing, Wisconsin.
I never aimed for automobiles, Hutton said. That's just happened

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to be the thing I got into. I just wanted
to run a business, any business. He also served on
the Packers' board of directors from nineteen fifty two to
nineteen eighty, when he was elected a director emeritus. After
we retired from the dealership business, Hudson settled in Rentcho Mirage, California,

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where he lived until his death on June twenty sixth,
nineteen ninety seven, at the age of eighty four. So yeah,
he got up there, he definitely did. But that is
Don Hudson's illustrious NFL career. A lot of those records
are kind of crazy to think about. You know. When
people hear old time football all like they hear things

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that happened in a past era, a lot of times
they get discredited. A lot of people like to kind
of just you know, poop poo on what happened before
they were born or before the merger and just think
none of that really counts. That was way back in
the day. Well, Hall of Fame careers records were set,
championships for one, A lot of stuff happened in that era,
and I refuse to just pretend that it didn't exist.

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It's an important part of history and I definitely look
forward to I'm getting further and further into some of
these more old school players. But that does do it.
For the Don Hudson addition, the tenth installment of NFL Immortals.
Thank you, guys so much for your patience. I appreciate
it more than you know. Shout out to all of our
loyal listeners, all of our certified funkies, all the people
that make this show part of their weekly routine. I
cannot thank you enough, and hopefully you will continue to

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do so. With all that being said, guys, have a
damn good start of your month, have a damn good
second half of twenty twenty five. It's officially underway July.
I have high hopes for it. I am dedicated to
making July not only a good month, but a progressive month,

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if that makes sense. So we'll be in touch. We'll
talk more here the days and the weeks come, but
thank you guys so much. Have a damn good rest
of your week, walk passionately in the direction of your dreams,
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