Aaron Goodwin Case Part - 2 - For The B-oo's

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
M m.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hm hm. What's up everybody, and welcome back to the

(00:33):
continuation of the Aaron Goodwin Fiasco.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Definitely a fiasco, for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is a crazy story. It's super wild.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm pretty annoyed. We just did this and it froze up.
We got to get a new camera. Anyways, I forgot
I gotta go through this again, so I do have
the listener stories. You would have gotten more genuine reaction
from Megan before. But it turns out that because we're
using my phone as a camera, the stories are on
my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, and I honestly didn't think about that. So we're
gonna have to push them off yet again, and we're
gonna have to send them to Megan's phone and read
them that way. Next week. We are working on a
new camera, which will be coming about a month and
a half soon. It's about a month and a half. Yeah,
so that that's gonna happen. I apologize. I really wish

(01:31):
I would have thought of that ahead of time, but
I went to school in Florida. I've been over this.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Sorry, but we.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Are gonna do the continuation of Aaron Goodwin. And the
thing is is when we watched the first video, I
had already known about it and seen it, you know,
parts of it. I have no idea from this point on,
none whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like I knew the situation that happened for sure, but
I didn't know any sort of details until we watched
the video last week.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, so I am very interested to see you see.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I did know. I just don't know anything beyond this.
And we're going to go back to Law and Crime.
I be honest, they're not my favorite true crime but
but it's not them. It's just I usually consume true
crime and more of a storied format and this is
more of like like a legal kind of format, I guess, yea,

(02:26):
And but they're doing such a good job, why why
go to something else.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We also watch a lot of interview footage, Oh yeah,
a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
But that's usually in a storied form, you know. We
watch a e WU and what is it, Red Red Tree?
I think, yeah, I think so. So we do a
lot of that, but we're gonna stick with Law and Crime,
as you know, And I don't know. There could be
another one after this, no idea, I know, Okay, but
even we're getting behind on the time frame. That's fine though,
we're never going to be the first one to put

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it out anyways. Definitely, So let's jump into this and
and see what this video has for us. Okay, let's
let's do this. Let's do the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yes, let's stick this out. This is probably going to
get pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I know, zero zero five.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Already in court.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's crazy morning.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Victoria Goodwin allegedly conspired with a convicted killer to murder
her husband Ghost Adventures star Aaron Goodwin. Now she's potentially
facing years behind bars. This case has all the elements
of a Hollywood thriller, but for Aaron Goodwin, it is
a real life nightmare, with his estrange wife appearing in
court this whe.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
She looks so different. I know, man, makeup. I'm sorry,
I'm not going to shame her. I'm not trying to
shame her.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, but I look very different without my on.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
You don't look that much different, I think I do.
She looks I wouldn't even if you put her side
by side, I wouldn't even be able to tell you
to think the same. Yeah, look at her. Look at
her compared to the other pictures we've seen.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean it still looks like her.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I disagree. I don't think it looks anything like her.
I think it like a completely different person. I don'
nothing about her looks the same to mesay. Whatever.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, we're going to break down every disturbing detail in
this unfolding case. Welcome to the sidebar presented by Law
on Crime. I'm Jesse Webber.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Thanks Jesse.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
This is basically a case that reads like a script
from a true crime thriller, and we have been tracking
every shocking development here on sidebar. But for Ghost Adventure
star Aaron Goodwin, this is a real life nightmare because
his now a strange wife, Victoria Goodwin, appeared in court
on March twenty fourth, handcuffed and jail scrubs because she

(04:57):
is facing explosive criminal charges of solicitation to commit murder
and conspiracy to commit murder for allegedly plotting to have
a hitman kill her husband Aaron. Now, this hearing was
just the latest in a saga that includes alleged secret
prison communications, a murder for higher plot to the tune
of over elect.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
We're going to get to find out if any of
our predictions were right, though, Yeah, I don't know if
she's been convicted yet, she's definitely been arrested. I'm real
curious what they decide to do with Grant. Yeah, oh yeah,
and her. I still don't think she's gonna get a
ton of time though maybe I hope so maybe. Really
it's more of a high profile thing, but I don't know, like.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Make an example of her. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm not going to make example of her. She's a blonde,
white woman. Definitely not going to make an example of her.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Eleven thousand dollars a marriage that was reportedly unraveling in
the darkest way possible. Now, if you're just catching up
on this case, this shocking case, here's what you need
to know. This again, I'll use the term nightmare. Began
on March when thirty two year old Victoria Goodwin was
arrested in Nevada for what investigator's allege was a murder
for higher plot with a co conspirator straight out of

(06:09):
a true crime documentary. That alleged co conspirator Grant a Motto,
a name true crime fans will definitely recognize because a
Motto is currently serving a life sentence in Florida for
the twenty nineteen murders of his father, mother, and brother,
a case that we covered extensively here on Long Crime.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Grant Buttery bitch Boy Moto. It just still blows my
mind that he's a part of this. I know, I know,
guy who had it all, threw it all the way.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Like we lived in Florida when this happened, like it
was very big news.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It was like Casey Anthony big huge.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
She still don't even get me started.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Prosecutors say he killed them because they were trying to
stop him from spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on
a webcam girl he said he was in love with
but apparently had never met in person, and his story
was recently featured in a Paramount Plus documentary, putting him
back in the spotlight and allegedly on Victoria Goodwin's radar.
So according to an arrest report obtained by Long Crime,

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investigators say Goodwin had been communicating with a Motto via
a smuggled cell phone from inside his prison, and there
are texts that unveiled an apparent detailed, alleged plot to
kill her husband, forty eight year old ghost Adventure star
Aaron Goodwin while he was filming the TV series out
in California and just not.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
The same thing. Man forty eight really good for his age? Wow,
I mean I figured he was in his forties, but
I figured he was closer.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
To my eight age. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wow. I mean I guess forty eight is not really
that much than me now that I think about it.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But still still though I would not have guessed forty eight.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, I mean, he's obviously been pretty good shape
because he is a ball of energy on TV. Yeah,
and he seems like in all these pictures and stuff,
I still think she looks dramatically different, absolutely so weird.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't know, because some pictures she does something you
know it's funny, doesn't it's weird to me.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
She looks younger without the makeup, Yeah she does.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I don't know what it is people at ages.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's I like you with more minimal makeup. I think
it makes you look younger.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah. Well, I don't worry a lot of makeup anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You have on occasion and I don't. I just don't.
I don't care for it, right, I like this.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Like daily basis, I were like four.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Things, all of it. Stop it get some help all
of it. Sure, so married to her.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
And during Tuesday's hearing, Goodwin appeared. She looked mostly solemn,
appeared to be smirking at one point as she looked
back at her attorney. During the hearing, she waved her
right to a preliminary hearing concord A good zero five
when you are David Brown on behalf of this good one,
who's president and customer for.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
This was set for preliminary theory. Originally she has a
right for two days. She's going to waive that right today.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
This was called off on our requests and we're just
asking first tass check for the two weeks.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's crazy, sure this good one.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Did you hear those representations on the record by your
attorney and your agreeing it continued this for two weeks
for the possible in vocations.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
All right, the two week day will be April eight,
eight thirty.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Thanks, thank you. So she's going to be beating on
April eight, two days of status check.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So there probably will be a third to this.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, that was literally two days ago. It was today's
what the eleventh?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Right? Yeah, it was three days ago.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, three wow, I can't na's it?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
But like this that we're watching right here, like her
in court was like two weeks ago, because it was
they said it was March twenty fourth.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, Oh I knew we were behind here.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I know we're behind that. I like we're closer
than I thought we were.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh no, I feel like we're way behind.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's two weeks, I guess, And I mean, I lot
can happen in two weeks. I get that.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
A lot to me, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I mean murder fire, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean. So there will be a third part to this, Yeah,
because we have to find out what happens to her.
I can't get through the court not find out.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
We'll have to dig in and see if they've done
another video next by next week.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm sure they have. Yeah, I'm sure they have.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
And her bail remains set at one hundred thousand dollars,
according to court records reviewed by The Daily Mails and
ambitions of her bail, she cannot have contact with her husband,
but Aaron, he filed for divorce on March twelfth.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Good for him, Good for you, Aaron, yay, good for you.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Good John.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
That the two have quote, views, tastes, and dislikes that
have become quote incompatible to the extent that it has
become impossible for them to live together as husband and
wife and marital tarmony, possibility of reconciliation between husband and wife,
and in that filing, I'll have their assets divided equally
while remaining in possession of a separate property that he owns.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
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Speaker 5 (11:34):
But the updates don't stop there, because Aaron apparently filed
an amended complaint on March nineteenth, which now includes a lawsuit,
and that filing, obtained by USA Today, reveals that Aaron
is now suing his wife for a sault, claiming that
she made him fear for his safety, yes false imprisonment,
claiming that she tried to control his movements.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do you think I would feel pretty threatened as well,
since she tried to hire somebody to kill him.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
I mean, I think that's literally the definition of a
threat that is wild.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'm glad that he's because I could see him being
the kind of nice guy that's like, you know, no,
we'll just part ways, but.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Justice serve whatever she's got coming in court and then
leave it at that after a divorce.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm surprised that for you. I'm surprised that he was
like fifty to fifty. I would have been like, no,
she gets nothing, nothing for you. Yeah, you tried to
have me killed. If you would have just came to
me and said this isn't working out, I'd be like, well,
here's half of everything. God be with you. But if
you try to kill me, I'm taking everything. I'm taking everything,

(12:39):
everything it's mine. Well, yeah, why wouldn't you. She literally
tried to have you.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Murdered, so so crazy. Good for him, I mean, I'm
glad he did that.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Hey man, Yeah, that's awesome. I'm pretty happy for him.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Negligence, accusing her of behaving recklessly during their marriage and
the intentional infliction of emotional distress. The filing states Victoria's
conduct was extra or outrageous, which are the elements for
that with either the intention of or reckless disregard for
causing emotional distress to Aaron, he suffered severe or extreme
emotional distress, as the actual or approximate result of her contact,

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and he's seeking more than one hundred thousand dollars in
damages a swift divorce, arguing that.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's why he gave her half of everything so he
could take it court. Just give my mondy.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
One hundred thousand dollars. That's exactly what her bail is.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I think it's funny too that he's like, I want
her to have a half of everything so I can
take I can take it back, amen, whatever I mean.
I feel like that's again, that's a good way to be, like,
to really drive it home that you're mad, right, is
to give it to her and then be like a
just kidding and take it all back again. That is

(13:53):
petty level one thousand. I love that for him. I
love to see it. Love to see it.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Goodwins. Alleged actions, including quote, acting in concert with a
convicted murderer, constitute a tort where a wrongful act justifies
terminating their marriage immediately. And by the way, for the
first time since all this happened, Aaron Goodwin has broken
his silence, thanking to Instagram to thank his fans for
their support. That post for March twenty second reads, thank

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you everyone, for all the love and support through this
emotionally trying time. It has really helped a lot, and
I appreciate you all. And here's the thing. From what
we could tell by the couple's Instagram photos, the two
appear to have been together since at least twenty eighteen,
before getting engaged in twenty nineteen and ultimately tying the
knot at Disney's Haunted Mansion. And they appeared to be happy,
which if these allegations are true, you gotta feel for

(14:40):
Aaron Goodwin. Here's years because now instead of a happy ending,
the relationship has imploded in what would be the most sinister,
unpredictable way possible. If the allegations against Victoria proved to
be true. A whole lot of shocking details surrounding the
alleged crime have come to light from the arrest report,
including possibly a suggestion that Victoria was romantically involved with

(15:01):
Grant Model. We're gonna get to all those deeps.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
What did I say? What did I say?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You did say that I did?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And if you're watching this or listening to this, go
back to last week, because he one hundred percent said that.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I knew That's how she roped him into this because
he's that's it. I'll be nice. This man, he's a lover.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
He likes female attention.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
But from attractive women, right, it's it's it's totally his
m o.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Here and his webcam girl. She was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, she was super house.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
She was gorgeoub with the pictures of.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm sure she you know, I'm sure she isn't. Well,
I mean, webcam is different. You can't photoshop in real time.
I was thinking like Instagram.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You're thinking, yeah, like Instagram or like a dating profile.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean, I'm sure she's literally a webcamir. I said that.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, but she's got you know, like makeup on and stuff.
But I'm sure she'saw it. But I knew that this
was the way to get this guy to do whatever
you wanted. He needs that female attention exactly. Yeah, he's
that guy. Yeah, he's as simple.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well for sure, he tells me. But first I want
to bring back onto the program criminal defense attorney Anthony OsO,
who has a specialization in domestic violence situations. My goodness, Anthony,
so good to see. I mean, thoughts on this is
not the first time you've seen an alleged murder for
higher plot, particularly in Texas. There are a lot of them,
but this one has so many different parts to it

(16:42):
it's shocking, to say the least, well exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I mean, it's just it's already a rare enough charge
to see. Yes, I've seen this kind of charge filed
in the past, but again, a solicitation or murder for
higher case is not nearly as common as straight murder cases.
They're just you don't see them all the time. And
so when you couple that on top of the fact
that this is a very popular reality TV star, it
sort of an interesting show with that, it's just it

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makes for a very bizarre set of facts.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Our solicitation to commit murder or conspiracy to commit murder cases,
are they in a way easier for prosecutors to prove?
What do I mean by that? When you have a
murder case. Obviously there's forensic data, there's witnesses, there's digital data.
You know it works. But sometimes you don't have that,
and it's more circumstantial about whether somebody killed another individual individual.

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Whereas with these kinds of cases, the way you ultimately
arrest the defendant.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Is there they have seven years of history together. Did
they don't have any other pictures?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I know they use the same pictures, but like I
was thinking this earlier, seven years is eight it's a
long time. It's a long time to be in a relationship.
So and you hear most like murder for higher things
on spouses and stuff like that is with then like
the first two years?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Probably? Yeah, it's usually pretty early on because then they
discover they don't actually like each other.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I'm divorcing my husband because he boomed tailor shift at
the Super.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Bowl, right, they don't like each other, or they finally
like get like a whole prenup thing maybe where you
can end up getting more money or insurance things come through.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
But it's usually early on.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, because you're out of that you're coming out
of that honeymoon faith and you're like, I don't know
if I could do this for the rest of me. Yeah.
So yeah, it is weird. They're almost a decade in
and now she's like, gotta get him killed.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's put it also crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
It also leads me to believe, like I said last week,
like I don't like that we always look at the
social media because it's made to look perfect.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's made to be that perfect world, perfect life.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We don't know what it's like at home, behind closed doors.
They could be fighting all the time. At least put
on a smile, because I mean, Aaron's a TV personality,
so he knows how to be fake for the camera.
He has to.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
They could be Amber and Johnny at home.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't think she's taking a dump on a pillow
of them and on my side of the bed was
human fecal matter.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I could be wrong, and it's possible, but I'm just saying, like,
you never know, she could be that crazy at home.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's possible, it is possible, but I don't know. Again,
that's why I don't like when they use social media,
because you just can You'll never know it's fake. Nobody's
social media portrays real life.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Nobody's right, paper trail, there's a communication trail. You wouldn't
file the charges unless you really have a clear cutcase
of a plot, right, that's my take? Is that so off?

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Absolutely? Jesse. I think that you don't see them filed
all the time because again, they are hard to prove,
and as a prosecuting agency, you want to have that
paper trail and be absolutely certain that you're filing a
good charge. But it's important to keep in mind solicitation
is different from conspiracy, and that conspiracy just requires an
agreement sort of helping or assisting in some form of fashion,
whereas solicitation is that is that kind of ongoing request, payment, prodding.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
They said both.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's how sensualized in the beginning.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
By the way I looked it up, I don't know
if you had a change.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Solicitation they said, both of those in her charges when
the video first started.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Solicitation, yea solicit Oh my god, that you you had
your you you could you do? Anyways? They said, both
of those in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
What about the solification. I'm sure she's going to catch
multiple charges, but it's going to be what sticks. How
much time is she actually going to get? Because of
my opinion, it's tragic. I just don't think she's going
to get much time. I don't I think her real
punishment is going to come from the fact of having
it all to having nothing.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
You are hardly wrong, what.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
What?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
But I feel like, wow, W I know this is
a rare occasion on film.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Wow, But like I hope you are I hope I
do too are because this woman, I can't even did they.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Say where she's being tried. Is it in Nevada or Florida?
I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I don't know. They might have said it in the beginning,
but I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I think that's good. I think that will have an
impact on what happens. I think if she's in Florida,
they're gonna throw the book at her. A yeah, I
feel like in Nevada they might be a little looser.
But I don't know. I mean, I can't really speak
on Nevada's behalf. I lived in Florida. I saw friends
go to jail for next to nothing.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
For this much as something and they literally outlocked up.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like a dime bag and you get five years, like
what you know. So we'll have to we'll have to see,
we'll have to God, I hope they mentioned it, or
we'll have to look into it after the fact that
maybe talk about it next week. But I do think
it'll make a difference.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I do do either, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe it's you see it in other states and including text,
the penalty obviously for murder could be life in prison.
But if the murder wasn't committed, and you just have
the solicitation of the conspiracy and steps were taken to
advance it. I'm looking that they could be two to
ten years, two to fifteen years, is that right? You're
not looking necessarily at life in prison. You're looking at

(22:17):
significant prison time. But it's not the same thing as.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Murder, right, not the same thing as murder. It's treated
very differently. I think in Nevada, conspiracy charge with amount
of money two to fifteen, and I think for the
solicitation case it's two to ten, which is sort of shocking.
When the maxim twenty you hear what actually transpired in
this case.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well, and to be clear, look she's innocent, so proven guilty.
I'm going to go in a little bit about what
her arguments could be. First, I wanted to ask you,
why would somebody waive a preliminary hearing? Any benefits to this?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
It's just not necessary. So a lot of times that
are preliminary hearing, you're just going through sort of you
put on notice of your rights, notice of the charges
against you. If a bond hasn't been said, or bond
hasn't been addressed, that would be a time to do
it and you enter a plea of guilty or not guilty.
So oftentimes there's really no need to go through all that,

(23:13):
and in that case, the defense jurney will oftentimes waive
the preliminary here. I've done that in my practice before,
so it just saves sort of people time.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And in that regard, a couple other things I want
to bring up to is, once she knows her charges,
they could offer her a plea deal and could get
next to no time but pay you know nothing, or
whatever the deal is. We'll probably never know if it
does come out. I mean we might because it's more

(23:44):
high profile. The other side of that is, if there's
too much evidence against her, she could enter into an
Alfred plea. And alpha plea is do you know what
that is? I think so it's a it's where you
go along with saying that you're guilty because you know
that they have too much evidence against you, but you're

(24:05):
not admitting that you did anything wrong. So it's you
know that if you go to court you'll be found guilty,
but you refuse to admit. Yeah, but she could get
a plea deal, and I think it's two to ten
on one two to fifteen on the other.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I just.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I don't I am going max on both. It don't
both stick.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I don't. I don't. But I also don't know what
her past is like either. I don't think I don't
know because as you know, Troublemaker, nobody's gonna know, they're
gonna know.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
How would they know?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Your past will reflect well? And but it'll reflect on
you know, like if you go back to court. Yeah,
oh y, you know. So I have a feeling we'll
see her. I'm gonna stick to what I said originally,
five years in total. I think she'll do about five years,
and I think she will get out early and she'll
do about two to two and a half.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I feel like she should get minimum five on each charge.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I would agree if they stick. I mean, it's a
murder for hire. I would actually like to see her
get the max, which would be twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But do they run it concurrent or consecutive? Who knows? Right?
And that's the other thing is say they give her
the minimum and they give her two years on both charges,
which is four, but they run it concurrent, she's only
going to do two. She'll be out in less than one.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So there's so many variables that can happen here. I'm
just I'm real curious to see which way they go.
But I do I do think they'll go light. And
I think that's awful. I do because Aaron, this is terrible.
It's so bad, Aaron. I just want to hang out
with you and give you a hug. Brother. Just hit
me up on four the Booze twelve at gmail dot com.

(25:48):
We can totally be friends.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
We're literally the next state over, buddy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Be friends with me, not her. You're too pretty and
look too close to the text wife.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
It was a little hard to hear exactly what was
being said in that hearing, but according to reporting from
Courthouse News, the attorney representing Goodwin, David Brown, based on reporting,
said that his client might be interested in negotiating a
plea deal. What would that look like.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
It really depends on each deals that happened all the time. Actually,
most cases are resolved through plea negotiations, and so he's
probably going to want to get all the evidence from
the state or the agency that's prosecuting Victoria, evaluate it,
review it, and then go back to the drawing board
and have discussions with the prosecutors about what they think

(26:35):
is an appropriate punishment and then counter with his arguments
to try and come to a number that both sides
walk away from thinking is fair. You know.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
One of the most interesting aspects of this case and
shocking the fact that, if the allegations are true, she
went towards a convicted murderer who's in prison as the accomplice,
and that raises a whole set of questions about why
you would go to some that person, but also the
ide do you have the smuggled phone? Is this something
that you see is common? Again, taking the allegations is

(27:05):
true that people who are locked away.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't see why it's so mysterious that she went
to him.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He's a murderer, like and something just came out about him.
She probably watched it and was like, oh damn, we's
see if I can reach out to this.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's who else do you go to besides someone you
think can murder somebody?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Right? Like, who else do you have already convicted of
murric You.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Don't go to the grocery store and ask the bag
boy to do it. Let it rip, Michael, let it
wrick let it rick let it writ bang it home, Michael,
banging home, Michael.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
They keep bringing up smuggled phones.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
We all know that.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Happens constantly, constantly. It's the most confiscated item in prison.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's phones. You think drugs, we will maybe weapons, but no, phones.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Phones are the most But like smuggled in item.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You know, hooch whatever ooch?

Speaker 4 (27:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
How old are you.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Are making hoochin toilets? Babe?

Speaker 4 (27:53):
But you've got the.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Kalens hooch in town? How kaleen forty percent, kerosene sixty
sixty percent hot time? What are you ninety? Who calls
it that?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
But literally, phones are in prisons constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's they keep bringing it up like it's like wha.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Like it's a big deal. Yeah, it's found. They're found
every day across prisons in America. It's it's kind of
weird that they are harping on this so much.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
I know can coordinate crimes on the outside.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
To think that any form of maximum security can prevent
these kinds of things from happening, I think is unrealistic.
You see and hear about contraband and not only the
jails but in prisons all the time, and so it's
it's not uncommon for that to happen.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
I want to move a little bit into the We'll
get back to the criminal case, but I want to
move a little bit more into the civil arena. So
we know that Aaron filed for divorce. I wonder if
Victoria is no contact order with Aaron, does that impact
her ability to participate in divorce proceedings. I mean, she
hasn't made bail, and think about that if she wanted
to challenge the divorce some way or contest it. And

(29:04):
then you have Aaron civil lawsuit for assault, false imprisonment,
you wonder how that has an effect too.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, in my experience, when there's a corresponding civil suit
or family lawsuit in a criminal case, the criminal case
usually stalls both of the other proceedings because you've got
Fifth Amendment issues. I mean, I wouldn't advise a client
to go to depositions or to make statements on the
record and hearings that are necessary in civil suits and

(29:32):
family lawsuits, or I'll advise them in those hearings assert
their right to remain silent. So oftentimes I just see
that those suits are stalled while a criminal.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Case is what did you think of the lawsuit, You know,
the idea of intentional infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment, negligence.
What do you make of those claims?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I think that there, I think it makes sense. I mean,
I don't know what from my perspective, I wonder what
Victoria's assets look like and how that might have some
sort of effect on the family law case as well
as the criminal case. But I think that the torts
makes sense. What she did is certainly in violation of

(30:13):
a tort law in Nevada, so it makes sense the
way that they filed the claim.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
I want to go through the arrest to report a
little bit with you, to break it down and see
what police say happened here. So initially, the investigating officers
said that they were made aware of this alleged murder
for higher scheme after they were contacted by a detective
at the Florida Department of Corrections informing them of this
supposed plan involving Grant a Motto as well as an
additional suspect in Nevada, and that additional suspect Victoria Goodwin. Right,

(30:44):
But what led police to that conclusion, Well, we mentioned
earlier that a cell phone was seized from Grant and Motto,
and investigators dug into that phone when it was seized
back on October third, and what they found inside was shocking,
According to the Problems analyst tagged. A conversation between a
female who goes by Victoria Candy and Inmate a Motto.

(31:04):
Inmate a Motto and Missus Candy discussed how much they
are in love and how her husband FH would not
accept divorce. Missus Candy at one point states, I'm so anxious,
l olol, I just can't believe it's happening. Like, what
the blank the expletive? Like, how did I get to
this point? Am I a bad person? Because I chose

(31:26):
to end his existence not divorce? Now, Anthony, I've talked
about this before.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, and a couple things I want to point out.
They said that she hasn't well as of this video.
She hasn't bonded out yet. It's ten grand. Yeah, I
know she's got the money.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Does she?

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Or?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Is everything?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
How cringey? She I mean by Candy, I mean she's
good looking, she's not that good looking. Calm down. I
just love that I called that because I just knew.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, well, I mean, you think if she came across
the documentary about him, it's obviously going to say that
he was influenced so much by this beautiful webcam girl
to do the things that he did. Instantly, boom, idea.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
First where you do it yourself. Okay, don't reach out
to him, just do it. I sleep next to you.
It's not that hard.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I would.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'll be right there.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I don't need nobody.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
What about me?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
I need you?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Spoken with other experts about it. What do you make
of those messages? It's going to be very hard to say.
You know, I didn't write those messages. Those messages were
from AI. You know, I'm just making something up. You
have to explain that in a way. And I wonder
the argument that we see a lot in these kinds
of cases is I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it.
There was not a real plot to kill my husband.
I was expressing my frustrations. What do you take away

(32:52):
from that if.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Just having not even seen the case. Shit, I want
to look at how they came about getting this evidence
and see if there's any sort of legal argument I
can make to try and suppress the evidence. But just
from looking at you.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Mean like a chain of custody argument.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Sin of custody, or that there were issues with the warrant,
things of that nature.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
I mean, her.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Standing to object to text messages found on his phone
is going to be difficult. But just looking at the
evidence itself, it's really hard to make an argument that
I didn't mean.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
What I was saying.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
This was all just sort of a fantasy. And then
at the same time trial.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Who does that? Who does that? All right, it's in
fear of sounding gross. We all have fantasies. I don't care.
If you want to be a prude and say you don't,
that's fine, but everybody does. This isn't a fantasy, No,
And you've passed the fantasy mark by reaching out to

(33:49):
somebody talking about money, yeah, and then discussing dates that
they would be available to be killed.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
And here's his schedule, here's where he's going to be.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Like what, I don't understand how they would even go
about trying to see this in her favor. I just
don't yeah, me either, This whole it's a fantasy. I mean,
you might as well just I don't even know you.
You probably could have did better if you said something
like I was forced to do it, or I don't
know something anything besides it was a fantasy. Clearly it's

(34:22):
not a fantasy. You tried to get this to have.
I don't know. It really bothers me that that's her
defense here, because I feel like I could be the
lawyer and argue against that and win. That's stupid.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's ridiculous. That is it's totally ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's a fantasy. I got some fantasies, might explain.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
The other damning piece of evidence is pieces of evidence
in the case, and so you know, it's easy to
break a twig, but it's hard to break a bundle
of twigs.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Did you come up with that like that? That was
a good one. Can I use that? I think that
was good?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah. The fact that not cod names but Victoria Candy
fh Could there be a defense argument? How do you
know what she was talking about or who was writing what? Sure?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
And well, I think I want to look at the
subscriber information, like what phone number is this coming from?
Who's registered to the phone, And then they can even
go a step further and say, well, well, let's look
at the geolocation on the phone. Where was she in
time when these messages were sent, and if you can
corroborate that she's with the phone, then it's going to
be really hard to create a wedge between her and

(35:31):
the person sending the messages. So there are a lot
of tools that the investigators in the toolbox that they
can use to put all that up against her.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, and further down in what the investigator uncovered reveals
just how detailed the supposed murder for higher scheme really was, because,
according to the filing quote, missus Candy informs inmate a
motto that her husband will be staying at the Best
Western plus and is with his smoke?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
What is what Best Western?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Say?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I bet Zach's not staying at the Best Western?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
If that's true?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Wow, he's dude, Wow, Zach is not staying at the
Best Western. Aaron might be and Billy and Jay, but
Zach's probably staying at like the Four Seasons for ever.
There's a June which I always have a way, it's
been a hell of a week.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
I hope you guys are doing great.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
So you know he's everyone should be.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know, he would do that. He'd be like, I
can't sleep here. I have an allergy to best.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Western my rectory issues.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Man walking Buddy. She proceeds to send inmate a Motto
a picture of the two of them, along with a
picture of a black Dodge minivan being driven by her husband.
During this time, Inmate a Motto has been in contact
with an individual whose name is redacted, who will be
taking care of the situation. Inmate to Motto and missus Candy, Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
That means that they have another name. Yeah, that yeah,
but I knew that they knew there was a third
But they actually have a name. They actually have a name,
but they've been speaking in code, so it's doubtful to
me that it's an actual name.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
With the picture of Aaron driving a minivan, it's going
to be hard to say that f H is in him.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, Like, I don't understand why they would even put
effort into geolocating her phone because her story hasn't been
that she didn't do any of this. It's been that
it's a it's a fantasy. So she's never said, oh,
I didn't send these messages. She said, Oh, it was
all pretend.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Oh, the lot detective determined that was a lie.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You know, so why put any effort into geo. I
mean she's never denied it. Yeah, that that those came
from her phone, so and I do.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's just more evidence to put against her where you
have like hard, like physical evidence.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, but I mean she might actually say, yeah, I
sent them. It was just a game. And I want
to go on record since you were so nice to
actually admit that I'm usually right that I was wrong
about something. Last week, Megan was right. It was eleven
five hundred and fifteen dollars, which makes it even dumber,
makes it even stupider.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Fifteen bucks instead of fifty for gas, it's.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Fifteen for gas. Which, now that's a Florida gas. That's
a that's a I got to get to the next
town over to.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I just need to fill up quarter at ten.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, nobody has a full thing of gas in Florida.
This doesn't usually happen.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
No, also have eleven five hundred and fifteen set aside
for this individual when the job is finished now. Investigators
also found messages where the two appeared to be discussing
using PayPal zell Cash app to make payments, and it
is noted that a Motto had apparently asked Goodwin for
a twenty five hundred dollars PayPal payment up front to
an account Anthony. Those numbers are so strange to begin

(38:55):
but you know, the specificity in those detail again, I
think is problematic for a defense.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
No, I think it's a good indicator of why the
defense Startney's discussing the possibility of complete negotiation in this case.
I mean, the opening statement rights itself that days before
this plan is taken out, that Victoria's sitting in bed
and they're lying in bed negotiating the price of Aaron's head.
That's insane that they've actually come to an amount of
what they think his life is worth. Yeah, and that

(39:26):
could be some really damning evidence in a trial. But yeah,
the specificity, it goes directly against any form of hey,
this was just fantasy or playing around, so not good.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
By the way, what do you make of if you
take this as true, this love that they you know,
it's you and I were talking before we came on
right about these alleged murder for higher plots are actually
convicted murder for higher plots. Love is a big factor
in them, right, So of this idea that she had
this love.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
For there's no love here, No, okay, no, there might
be from Grant, but it's in factually and for her,
it's just something she needed to say to get some
guy to do what she wanted.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
There's no actual love here, No, not at all. And
I one hundred percent actually love what Jesse was saying
about the specificity of it all, the fact that if
you if she would have texted twenty thousand dollars and
then you would it would be a little easier to
say it was just a fantasy. It's just a number
I saw in a book or I saw on the show.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
But it's so specific.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, they're very specific numbers, and the information that's being
passed like between them is just it's very particular information.
What he's driving, you know, what he looks like. It's
going to be super hard to argue that this was
all a game or a fantasy. I just don't see it, Yep,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I absolutely agree with that.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Grand Model had this relationship with him and saw him
on the documentary. That as strange as that is, that's
not outside the realm of what we've seen with other cases.
It's almost consistent, right, No, it's.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Not, Jesse, I mean, it is consistent, you know, you
don't see this often, but I think when you work
in criminal law and you're around the court system enough,
you do run into cases like this where inmates make penpals,
and believe it or not, there are plenty of inmates
serving long sentences that develop relationships and even marriages while
they're in custody all the time. And so what I've

(41:25):
seen often in these murder for higher cases is there's
typically a love wedge in the relationship and that's where
this sort of idea is birth to take out one's
other partner.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
What do you think, actually, Lama ask is, why do
you think the name of this alleged hitman is being
redacted here? Could that mean police don't know exactly what
it is they couldn't find him yet. I'm a little confused.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
They can seal sometimes they'll seal records because they just
to preserve the investigation they could still be working on
whether he's if he hasn't been arrested yet, then they're
not gonna want They're not going to want to put
him on notice that he is suspecting the investigation he
or she. So there's a lot of different reasons that
they wouldn't put that out into the public.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Now there was more revealed about the communications that a
Motto had apparently had with this What.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Could it be? What there's been more revealed about his
communications or there What could there be?

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I don't know. Maybe they're just oh my god, that's disgusting, dude.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I will be surprised if it doesn't come up like
she wrote him letters and put like pictures in there
or something gross. I personally feel like they probably know
who the third person is, but they have not grabbed
them yet, and you don't want to tip them off, right,
you know, so you redacted from any paperwork absolutely, or

(42:57):
you just haven't figured out how to charge them, or
maybe they're an informant of some kind.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Now or building more evidence. It could be anything. Yeah,
it could be anything.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
So I mean, I kind of hope it's like this
person was never actually going to do it and they've
turned informant and they're just dropping the dime on everybody.
Get that money, yeah, I mean paid twice.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Paula alleged hitman whose identity not yet known. According to
the filing, analysts tagged a conversation between inmate to Moatto
and an individual whose name is redacted. In made to
motto tells this individual block the main number I had
been texting you from, and made to motto also informs
this individual that he will distract the husband of missus
Candy with a phone call. He then informs this individual

(43:38):
he's asleep right now in the hotel room. Brother, what
are you doing? Brother? I need to know what is
going on? Can I get an update? Was it done now?
That name listed in the text, Victoria Candy, is close
to her actual maiden name, by the way, which is Cadennis.
According to a registry reportedly reviewed by the Las Vegas
Metro PD Anthony Dennis, every time I go to one

(44:01):
of these additional updates, it feels like it's getting worse
and worse again. Innocent until provenuilty, but you can see
a little bit more of this, the string of this plot,
of this alleged plot.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Absolutely, and you know, not every case is a trial case.
And I think that a lot of a defense attorney's
job goes past being able to make a good case
of trial. It's a lot a lot of the work
is done before that. And in this case, based on
the new updates that you've been giving, Jesse, I think
that that's probably going to be the route that this

(44:34):
one goes. As much as everybody'd like to see how
it played out in trial, it's really not a good
defense case from what I'm hearing.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
By the way, so police say they haven't identified this
alleged hit man, and once the person's arrested in charge,
you wonder would it be possible if this person is
offered some kind of deal to testify against Goodwin? And
by the way, my understanding right now as a model
hasn't been charged in connection with this, but you think
a deal would be worked out, You think it's important
to have his have this person's testimony against Goodwin.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
It depends whether they think the alleged or the possible
hit man is worth charging it off, because, in my
eyes a motto, I mean, what else does the state?
What else can the state do with him?

Speaker 5 (45:16):
I mean they don't charge him? You mean like they're
not going to charge him for that?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
This is what I said before. He's already in three
life sentences. What's the point? Yeah, and there's this again,
there's more to this, like making it harder to say
that this was a fantasy. Is now the communication has
left from just you and him to him and a
guy hired to do the job, who are like, you know,

(45:43):
setting up these times and hey he's here. Is it done? Yeah?
This is not This is obviously not a fantasy. This
is this was happening.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes, absolutely, it was happening. And just I think it's
so wild, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah. Yeah, what I never thought i'd see the day
would be sitting here talking about Aaron Goodwin's wife trying
to murder him.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Murder.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
This is crazy, that's so crazy. What are we doing here? People?
What is the world coming to? People are not all right?

Speaker 5 (46:13):
No, I'm fine, totally fine. I don't know why it's
coming out all loud and squeaky, because really I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
You're already facing three life sentences without the possibility parole,
So at this point they're just wasting time and resources.
They could put him in further security, they can, and
the prison can take measures, but charging him additionally for
this isn't going to benefit anybody, and it would just
cost money.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
It's going to do.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I would prefer to use a motto as a cooperator,
and if my evidence showed that this alleged hitman with
someone that we should go after because if they haven't
arrested him yet, which is why they may be sealing
the record, then that's someone that's willing to commit murder
for hire who's out in the free world.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Yeah, it was something I thought as well. And I'm
completely speculating because I have no idea who this person is.
But you have to wonder, fair argument if this is
a person who would have accepted what is again a
relatively small payment to murder another individual. Have they done
this in the past. Is that a fair assessment? I
don't know, or maybe would they be open to doing
this in the future. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I'd want to see their cell phone and their computer
and we'll look through that to find out.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Talk about an investigation. By the way, On March sixth,
this is the day of Goodwin's arrest, police had executed
a search warrant at her home where Goodwood had exited
her house, gave an interview with detectives, and police say
good would explain that she learned about Grand Motto through
a true crime documentary, began writing to him, describing their
relationship as two pen pals, and this relationship, she says,

(47:45):
started in May of twenty twenty four ended in November,
and this came to be, according to her, because she
and Aaron were having problems in their marriage, though the
nature of those problems still unclear, but investigators say they
showed her messages that she actually admits to remembering. But
when asked about the messages regarding sending money, she apparently
told police that she believed the money would be used

(48:07):
for cell phones. But here's what she had to say
about the messages surrounding this alleged plot quote. Victoria was
eventually confronted about the text soliciting and conspiring to murder Aaron.
She denied wanting her husband to be killed. She described
herself of sometimes daydreaming of being in a different situation,
but she no longer felt that way. She also stated
she did not remember sending those particular messages. Victoria expressed

(48:29):
her feelings of wanting to be without Aaron and with
a motto to which a motto described as a fantasy
or day dreams. Now, Anthony, you know how damaging is this,
this idea of fantasizing. But I also had the same token.
You know, you look at all of these images of
her and Aaron together where they apparently seem so happy.
You know, would it be tough that this woman was

(48:49):
capable of this?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I don't think so, because look at who she contacts
to get the job done. I mean, you've got a
convicted killer. You're talking to somebody that's capable. So if
this was just some fantasy, not that I'm saying that
one should go commit prostitution, but that's certainly a less
of your crime than hire somebody to kill your husband.
She could go find somebody off the street and exchange
text messages with that wasn't a confirmed killer. But she

(49:12):
didn't do that. Here. She went to somebody that's serving
three life sentences to commit this crime. So playing with fire.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
If it was a joke, well, I'll tell you what, Anthony,
it was a full transcript. How this police interview is
supposed to become available at a later date, So maybe
we'll have you back on we'll talk more.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Full transcript.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Okay, I want to read that.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I guess we're the Aaron Goodwin podcast.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Now I am ready, man, I'd be very interested.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
To read that. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff
that we are not being told yet.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Of course, there always is. I would love to hear
that they got to, you know, save it for a
later date, keep some stuff under wraps for a trial
or court or whatever you want to call it, because
it's like they said, it probably won't go to trial.
It's probably just going to be this and that's it.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
It just it depends, you know, because they could hit
her with a plea deal, and but if she doesn't
take that, it could it could go.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
To tryal Oh, yeah, she doesn't take it. Shit, I
think she's gonna if they offer it, she would be
absolutely ridiculously stupid.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
To not do that.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I just hope it involves real jail time. Yeah,
because I yeah, I feel like there's just more to
this that we don't know, Like a lot more agreed
about it.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
We're gonna keep our eyes out for this, but my gosh,
what a case. In the meantime, Goodwin remains in custody
awaiting her next court appearance. Anthony, Oh, so, thank you
so much for coming on breaking down this case. But
we really appreciate it. Thanks for having me, all right, everybody,
that's all we have for you right now here on Sidebaran.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's part two. I don't know how many we're gonna do,
but we are going to finish this.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I want to know at this point, I want to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
We need to know we started it, we have to
see it through.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Well. Coast Adventures started this show that we do, Like
why we couldn't not do it.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I'm just I'm still kind of just blown away. This
is a lot. It's so crazy, and I really hope
that they leak out some more of the stuff that
we don't know, because I know there's going to be more. Absolutely,
you know there's always more. There's always more, and there's
always more. I just hope we get to find out
about it before there's like a true crime documentary in
ten years.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah. But and they did confirm that she found him
through the documentary.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Right, Well, that's what I'm saying. How is this all
a fantasy?

Speaker 5 (51:32):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
You paid, you set up dates and times, you sent pictures,
you cooborated with other people.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
You you know, the.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Fifteen dollars was part of that eleven thousand, five hundreds.
Everything is way too specific.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Do you go find some random person on I don't
like Snapchat or something and do these kind of things
as a fantasy.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's like I like that a little dog filter on
my face and try to hire a murderer.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Make sure the tongue comes out. I really like to
and seconds, yeah, can you.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Kill my husband?

Speaker 1 (52:10):
But I mean seriously though, like you could do that
with anybody. But you reached out to a convicted murder.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Triple homicide, three life sentence, no possibility, parol. He's a
bad guy. You knew what you were doing.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Get out of here, bro.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
I mean, even if you thought it was a fantasy,
you knew by contacting him it was no longer a
fantasy exactly. But this is where it's going to end
this week. It is. And you know, follow us on
all the social medias that I don't post on all
the things for the booze, right, and if you have
a story and again, guys, so I really didn't connect
that until like we sat down and I went to
think it next. Yeah, well I went to think, Oh

(52:47):
I got to I got to read the stories and
I started looking for my phone and.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I was like, oh, yeah, it's up there recording.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Never mind. And but if you have a story you
want to send in or say hi, or have a suggestion,
it's for Boost twelve at gmail dot com. Because eventually
after this trial thing or this case. We will go
back to regular episodes and if you like regular episodes,
join the Patreon. We just put one out on there.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, we did a whole like a little episode over
there for the first.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Time, short episode on Paul Dever State School.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, we did. It was a good one. I enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
It was fun. It's fun to kind of let loose
on Patreon because we can just you know, we can
cut loose.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
We don't need more ourselves.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know, we have the YouTube. We don't
want to get taken down off here. But uh yeah,
that's it. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Good.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Absolutely, well, thank you everybody so much for listening, and
we'll see you in the next one.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Bye. Please just don't ever have me killed. That's all
I gotta say. Bye, guys,

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