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July 28, 2025 51 mins
Welcome Back B-oo's Crew! This week we head back to Williamsburg, VA, but, not to talk about a specific location, rather the entire Colonial District. While there are many areas that house stories of the paranormal, it is the whole district that is the star haunted location. Once a bustling colonial town in days of old, the District was no stranger to death and war. 
 The Colonial District today is now a living museum with period actors and all, but there may be some you see walking around that will make you look twice...was that an actor? Where did they go? What is going on here? With the Colonial District you never know...What do you think? 

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Sources for this episode: ·       [1] United States Census Bureau. “QuickFacts: Williamsburg city, Virginia.” ·       [2] Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. “Colonial Williamsburg: About Us.” ·       [3] City of Williamsburg. “History of Williamsburg.” ·       [4] College of William & Mary. “About W&M.” ·       [5] Library of Virginia. “The Virginia Declaration of Rights.” ·       [6] Encyclopedia Virginia. “Patrick Henry and the Second Virginia Convention.” ·       [7] Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. “Governor’s Palace Historical Overview.” ·       [8] Colonial Ghosts. “Peyton Randolph House: Haunted Williamsburg.” ·       [9] Haunted Williamsburg Tours. “True Stories from Ghost Tour Guides.” ·       [10] Ghosts of America. “Governor’s Palace Ghost Stories.” ·       [11] Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. “Wythe House History & Hauntings.” ·       [12] Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. “The Public Gaol.” ·       [13] Bruton Parish Church. “Parish History, Legends, and Ghosts.” ·       [14] Williamsburg Walking Tours. “Ghost Tours & Supernatural Stories.” ·       [15] National Park Service. “Haunted History: Theories & Skepticism.”

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey everybody, and welcome back to four.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh oh for the booze. And this is going to
be the continuation. We're gonna do the the the Colonial
District of Williamsburg, Virginia. Yes, just because last I thought
I just thought it was interesting and I knew that
there was more about it. But there I do have

(01:02):
something to mention at the end towards when we hit
the reviews that I have to mention. Okay, it's just
like a little weird thing, Okay, But I I tried
hard not to repeat things, so if I do, I'm sorry,
But you know, from last weekend, like historical stuff and
stuff like that, because last time we were just talking

(01:23):
about a house, but I did try to include some
history stuff. I'm always going to try and include history stuff.
It's the thing that I like, It's what I like
to do. But I mean, the thing I found most
interesting about this is we talked about the Peyton Randolph
House last time, but come to find out, there's way
more haunted stuff in this place.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Than just that, Like it's this whole area.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's almost like the whole town. Yeah, to the point
where they have a bunch of different ghost stores. You
can go on and stuff like, it's kind of like
going to Saint Augustine.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh, I love Saint Augustine.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, it's really far away now, and we won't be
going there anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
If I go and get that promotion, we could go
on a trip to usually in Florida once a year
on the house trip. It's the general manager's conference that
happens every year.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, you'll have to let me know how that is
when you get back.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
No, because we can bring friends.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm not ready for Florida. It's too hot.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
But if I take that promotion, if I end up
doing that position, I have to go get my job.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I said, let me know how it is when you
get back. But it's so hot.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I just have to go to the boring things all
by myself, and you can go have fun.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'll probably just sleep. I don't know. I'd have the
kids with me, so not if we're in Florida. Oh
all right, I'm ready. If I didn't even think about.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
That, we all go and then be like here you go.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I didn't even think about that time. And the one
thing I miss about that's the one one thing I miss.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is that we don't have anybody to babysitter.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We've been out one time since we've lived here for
like four hours. Yeah, no, dude, But anyways, what do
you say we get into this one.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Let's do it. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
The Colonial Williamsburg is located in, of course, the city
of Williamsburg, Virginia, with the Historic Triangle that also includes
Jamestown and Yorktown. The city covers an area of approximately
nine point one square miles and as of recent estimates,
is home to around fifteen thousand residents, which I did
mention last time. The heart of the Colonial District is

(03:25):
three hundred and one acre living History museum featuring over
five hundred restores or restored or reconstructed buildings from the
eighteenth century. Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So it's like the whole thing is a living museum.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know what. It reminds me of Salem.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, I've never been, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
But you've seen it. Yeah. Absolutely, that's what I mean.
I've never been here, but it's like an entire town
just of historic houses and buildings.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
It is really cool. Yeah. I wish people would stop
tearing things down because that history doesn't come back, no,
he as, we just lose it. YEP, now established as
Middle Plantation in sixteen thirty two. Williamsburg became the capital
of the Virginia Colony in sixteen ninety nine, serving as

(04:15):
the political, cultural, and educational center until seventeen eighty, when
the capital moved to Richmond. So I guess I would
not have been able to tell you what the capital
of Virginia was. Unfortunately, I'm not as small a man.
Each year, Colonial Williamsburg draws nearly one million visitors, making

(04:36):
it one of the most popular historic attractions in the
entire country. Characterized by its red brick Georgian architecture, cobblestone streets,
and lush gardens, the district is not not only preserves
America's early heritage, but also stands as a vibrant backdrop
for tales of the supernatural. With its preserve structures, century

(04:56):
old cemeteries, and storied past, Williamsburg has become a place
where the boundaries between history and legend will often blur. Okay,
this is one of the oldest towns in America. Wow wow,
I mean you're talking this place was around for the

(05:22):
Revolutionary War, not the Civil War. We're talking way before
the Civil War. Revolutionary War that's so crazy. My family
fought in that war. I'd like to say, you know,
it's hard to be in the school. I know.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Which school, as you.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I know, you can try, you can try. The relocation
of Virginia's capital sixteen ninety nine is a defining moment,
and the capital of Virginia Colony was moved from Jamestown
to Williamsburg, shaping the city's destiny as a center of
colonial government and society. Now, these are just some facts
and stuff that I picked up of the area, you know,

(06:04):
just so we can get acquainted with the history and
things that have happened here. Just so the story is
a little more around we have a better idea of
what we're talking about. The drafting of the Virginia Declaration
of Rights seventeen seventy six within Williamsburg. Within Williamsburg, George
Mason wrote the Virginia Declaration of Rights. It's a document

(06:25):
that heavily influenced both the Declaration of Independence and the
US Bill of Rights.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Wow, that to me, yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That is crazy, right, because this could have just been
like a state document, you know whatever, every state house.
But this one goes on to influence the Declaration of
Independence and the US Bill of Rights to the two
most famous, you know, pieces of history in the United States.

(06:55):
And I think that is pretty rad. Patrick Henry's quote
give me Liberty or give me death speech in seventeen
seventy five, give me liberty or give me we all
had to learn about it. Now. While the speech itself
was delivered in Richmond, Patrick Henry's impassioned advocacy for independence

(07:15):
was honed during legislative debates in Williamsburg Capitol Building. Wow.
So Williamsburg birth the man that gave us the line
that everybody knows, give me liberty or give me death? Right.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Wow, dang, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
This place is steeped in history. Yeah. Now, the Royal
Governor's flight in seventeen seventy five, Governor Lord Dunmore, fearing
retribution from revolutionaries, fled the Governor's palace under cover of darkness,
symbolizing the collapse of royal authority in Virginia. Now, you
gotta remember that this is one year before the Revolutionary War.

(07:52):
Revolutionary War is seventeen seventy six. Up till that point,
the US was still under British rule, Yes, which meant
that we would still have you know, dukes and lords,
and they were trying to make it like a second
UK basically mm hm, you know, so big deal of it,
Kick them out America. Now. The Revolutionary War hospital at

(08:16):
the Governor's Palace. Now, during the Siege of Yorktown, the
Palace was converted into a field hospital for wounded soldiers,
many of whom died within its walls, which is what
I would guess could be a big contribution to paranormal claims. Right,
this place was during the Revolutionary War. There's no telling
how many people died in this town.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, absolutely not, because.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well the Peyton Randolph House was also used as a hospital. Remember,
so how many of these locations were being used as
hospitals and how many people actually died in this town? Yeah,
that's a lot, a lot. Now, Williamsburg as a center
for enlightenment thought, the College of William and Mary and
the city itself played host to leading figures such as
Thomas Jefferson, George White, James Monroe, fostering revolutionary ideas and movement.

(09:05):
So it housed a lot of the people who went
on to change the foundation of the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
There's just not any spot in this town.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's not super drenched in history.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, that hasn't had a part in creating what we
know America as today. That's insant the restoration movement of
nineteen twenty six. So we're going years ahead now. In
the twentieth century, the massive Restoration project, led by Reverend
wr Man, that's rad Reverend war Goodwin and John D.

(09:45):
Rockefeller Junior, began preserving Williamsburg as a living museum and
national treasure. So this whole town, I believe, is considered
a historical landmark. Wow, the entire town.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean, they started doing this in nineteen twenty and
it's still a living museum today today.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And you're talking about almost a ten mile radius here
of basically living museums.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Nestled in the heart of Virginia's Historic Triangle, Colonial Williamsburg
stands as a living testament to the early American life.
A meticulously restored district bustling with costume interpreters, cobblestone streets,
and centuries of old brick buildings. But as the sunsets
and the candlelight and the candlelight lanterns flicker to life,
a different side of Williams Big emerges one draped in mystery, intrigue,

(10:37):
in the whispers of the past, and for generations, tales
of the paranormal have woven themselves into the very fabric
of Williamsburg's colonial district, creating an aura that lures both
history buffs and seekers of the supernatural.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Tales of the paranormal have woven themselves into the fabric
of Williams.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's a statement now unders and the depth of Williamsburg's
william But I had the same problem last night. William
Burgh's paranormal reputation, one must first appreciate its historical significance.
Now founded in sixteen thirty two, I'm sure I've been
over most of this already Founded in sixteen thirty two
is Middle Plantation and renamed Williamsburg in sixteen ninety nine.

(11:19):
The city served as the capital of the Virginia Colony
until seventeen eighty. It bore witness to revolutionary debates, political intrigue,
and the everyday joys and tragedies of its residents. This
convergence of life, death, and the monumental change has, according
to many, left and in indelible. I can't read today

(11:41):
indelible spiritual imprint on the area. This is We've talked
so many times in the past about the most haunted
house in America. Yeah, the most haunted hospital in America.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
A lot.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
This is almost everything. This is considered far And why
does the most haunted town in America? Wow? Now, I'm
sure somebody will be like, oh, there's this ghost town
blah blah blah, but people live here. Yeah, oh yeah,
you know, this is.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
A still running as a full function in town.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
This isn't a ghost town. This is I mean, some
people consider it a ghost town, but this town still
operates on a daily basis. So I don't I feel
like as far as like most haunted town it would
have to go to something like this versus a ghost
town where people left long ago, because that to me

(12:32):
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean I could I could only see it staying
that way, I guess, especially just being so rich in history,
like it's it. There's just this bond I guess to
that that makes this town just.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't know where it's going with that. It's been
a minute since I've done that.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I love that. That's my favorite. That's why I just
let you go.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, help me out.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You sure, pretty.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
A rep day.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Williamsburg's Colonial district is replete with buildings whose very walls
seem to echo the footsteps of those long gone. Now.
Some sites are especially renowned for their spectral inhabitants. Now,
of course, I am going to go over this one
because it's part of the town. I know we talked
about it last time, but we're going to talk about

(13:23):
it again because it's here. The Peyton Randolph House first
on the list, of course, frequently cited as one of
the most haunted homes in America, the Peyton Randolph House
dates to the early eighteenth century. Home to Peyton Randolph,
the first President of the Continental Congress, the house has
been the scene of numerous unexplained phenomena. Guests and employees

(13:45):
alike have reported things such as phantom footsteps echoing through
empty hallways, chile and cold spots that linger regardless of
the weather, apparitions of both adults and children sometimes dressed
in colonial attire, strange knocking sounds, and inexplicable shadows. Now,
legend has it that several tragic deaths, including those of

(14:07):
enslaved people and family members occurred within the home, and
some believe these lingering spirits remained bound to the house,
unable or unwilling to leave.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I don't want to go.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
One tourist recounts wandering the dimly lit halls during a
ghost tour and feeling an icy breeze brushed past even
though the windows were shut tight, and moments later they
caught a glimpse of a shadowy figure standing at the
top of one of the stairs, vanishing as quickly as
it appeared. Wow, So I mean we again, We already

(14:42):
talked about the Peyton Randolph House. One other encounter was
that one staff member remembers closing up late at night
and hearing clear, echoing footsteps in the parlor after everyone
had left. Quote, it sounded as if someone was pacing
deep in thought, they shared, but there was no one there.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
But if you're going to say America's most haunted house,
I feel like there should be more agree because even
when we talked about it, I just don't. I feel
like other places have had so many more claims.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh absolutely, you know, but I've definitely done places that
seem to just be way more.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I think what it is is like we end up
talking about places where their reputation is bigger than the
things that actually happened. That's fair, you know, like for
some reason their legend just blows up. But the actual
occurrences that people seem to have there don't compare to
the stories that are told. They become like their own,

(15:42):
you know, urban legend or something. No, I get it,
all right, Let's talk about the Governor's Palace. As the
opulent residence of the colonial Virginia's governors, the Governor's Palace
has its own tales of tragedy and unrest. During the
American Revolution, the building was used as a hospital, and
many wounded soldiers are said to have died within its walls.

(16:04):
Let's get into what is claimed to happen there. They say,
the faint sounds of moaning or crying, especially near the
former hospital rooms, happen.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Okay, that's fair. People die, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Probably tragically shot. Whatever glowing orbs drifting through the gardens
at night could be lightning bugs. Just saying a sudden
waves of melancholy or dread that pass over those touring
certain rooms, which I mean, that's a pretty common paranormal claim. Absolutely,
you know that feeling of dread that people get.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So ominous feeling that kind of hangs in the air
of a paranormal place, and more people are more susceptible
to it than others.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, you know, it's a feeling over precious.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Very It's exactly say, a very oppressive feeling.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I feel like, even if a place isn't haunted though,
and you know some history about some bad things that
have happened there, I feel like you'll you'll automatically get
that feeling. Oh yeah, because you're going you're going in
there with the knowledge of what went on. You're probably
on a tour and a guide that's telling you all
these terrible things. So it's it's the same thing like
scary movies aren't haunted, but you still get a feeling

(17:10):
when you watch them. So I don't know. I'm not
saying that paranormal places or occurrences don't cause this, But
what I am saying is I think there's a weird
divide there between like, Okay, well, what would we consider
a you know, a paranormal emotion versus just a normal

(17:31):
emotion because you're being told a story. Yeah, yeah, you know,
that's something I've been thinking about. But now some say
that the spirits of soldiers, never having found peace, still
wander the grounds in search of solace. Now there are
some personal there is a personal experience of this place,
and it was during a candlelit tour a group of
visitors saw what appeared to be a flickering torch moving

(17:55):
through one of the corridors, though no one in the
group or staff had a light in that area. Several
guests later reported feeling a heavy sadness as they climbed
the grand staircase. Interesting, but again, are we telling stories
as this is going down? You know what I mean?
Because I feel like that would heavily influence how you

(18:17):
would be feeling at that moment. Abs, So I don't know.
Let's talk about the wife House, and I think that's
how you pronounce this, it's wyt. If anybody knows, you
can correct me. But once the home of George Wythe,
a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the White House
is rumored to be haunted by wife himself and his

(18:39):
wife Elizabeth. Now guests have reported doors opening and closing
by unseen hands, the aroma of pipe smoke in rooms
where no smoking is allowed, and ghostly figures gliding past
upstairs windows. Some speculate that wife, renowned for his wisdom
and dignity, continues his vigil over the property, while Zabeth

(19:00):
is said to appear in times of family distressed. Now,
I do want to boint something out here too. These
old wooden houses, the wood is porous, and while they
may not be smoking rooms now, they probably were once
upon a time, and they will trap that smell. And
as the heat and cold expands and and shrinks the

(19:21):
wood back down, it will release smells. This has already
been tested. No, no, this is a fact. This isn't
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I'm not long ago were we talking? They lived here.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Two hundred years ago.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It was a really long time. Yeah, for smells to dissipate.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
You still get smells in the Lizzy boarding house too.
M m. I mean it's a it's a fact. It's
it's been proven that this happens. Okay, well yeah, but
I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. This is something.
This is something that happens. Woman, you're great be smelling
your perfume in our bathroom for three hundred years. But no,

(20:01):
it does, it does, it does happen. It does smoke it,
But it does happen where this porous old wood, it
will collect those sense and as the seasons change and
that wood expands and retracts back, it will release melts.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I get it just saying it stains, you know, and
it's smoking, the one thing that we all know will
definitely get in your walls.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Don't smoke in your houses.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now. Personal story from here, as a local family recounted
seeing a translucent woman in periad dress gazing out a
second floor window late one autumn night. When they looked again,
the figure had just melted away into the darkness. I
love that. It's an autumn night.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Too olt to be that here soon. I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I can't I know, I'm so tired of being sweaty.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Now, I don't know how to pronounce this one either,
So we're just going to call it the colonial jail. Okay.
I think this is some kind of like old English
word or something. But it's called the public gale. But
the colonial jail or gal once housed criminals, debtors, and

(21:14):
prisoners of war. Now it's harsh conditions and tales of
suffering have led many to believe it is a focal
point of paranormal activity. Visitors and guides recount chains inexplicably
rattling in empty cells, unexplained cold drafts, and shadowy figures
darting between the bars or standing silently in the corners.

(21:35):
That could be super creepy, creepy. It is said that
those who died here, whether guilty or innocent, remain confined
to its stone walls.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Something about those old stone jails seem to really trap
the spirits. Absolutely, I wonder. I wonder if it's like
I wonder if it's limestone, m because limestone is always
seems to be linked to paranormal Have you noticed that? Yeah,
oh yeah, there's something about limestone that does that, which
is why they say a lot of places in Florida

(22:05):
are so haunted. It's something between the limestone and the water,
you know. I think there's like a belief that limestone
like the wood I was saying, but for spirits.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Like Holt's energy.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know shit about it.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But I've definitely heard it before, so I know.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now. A volunteer working late one evening heard metal clinging
from an empty cell, and when they entered the temperature plummeted,
and they felt a presence behind them, though the room
was visibly empty. That sounds oh man, what is that?
Was it Missouri State Prison? And the one guy I
forget his name right now, but that sounds like that situation.

(22:44):
Let's talk about the I'm gonna mess up all these names.
I just know it. The Breton Parish Church.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
That seems right to me, looks right right?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, now standing since seventeen fifteen, Breton Parish Church is
a hollowed sanctuary for the living and some say for
the dead. Parishioners and taurists have seen unexplained lights, the
faint sound of hymns sung by invisible choirs, and the
apparition of a woman in colonial dress, believed to be

(23:14):
mourning a lost loved one. Now the churchyard, with its
ancient headstones, is equally steeped in ghostly lore. Hm.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, I mean do like that?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know that sounds pretty rad.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'd love to go see that.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
The Breton Parish Church may be a future episode. I
don't know. I like the idea of a church with
a graveyard being a topic abs now. One longtime parishioner
recalls quietly praying alone in the church and hearing soft
singing that seemed to drift from the empty balcony above quote,
I felt comforted, not afraid, as if the past and

(23:51):
present had gently met. Beautiful line. Dude, God save some
for the rest of us. Dude, geez, talking like that
ruin it for the rest of us. Man.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think it's like, I think it's so creepy when
people here like humming or you know, singing or I
don't know if he like meant that it was actual
singing words or.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, no, no, that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
He said, so creepy. It's so creepy.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Where to go? Yeah, just someone singing, So maybe it
was where I don't know, But I love the fact
that he states that, like he didn't feel scared. It
made him feel comforted, because not every spirit is a demon.
Don't believe YouTube everybody. It's not these people or were

(24:42):
people like that? Yeah saying it?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
So the walking tours and ghost tours of today, okay, okay. Now,
modern Williamsburg embraces its spectral side with a variety of
ghost tours, attracting thousands of curious visitors each year. That
was one thing looking into this as there are a
ton of ghost tours and like haunted expeditions and stuff

(25:18):
like that. This town has a bunch and it immediately
reminded me of Saint Augustine. That's the only thing I
could really compare it to, because when we went to
Saint Augustine, it seemed there was a different ghost tour
in every corner.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
There was ghost bus, ghost walk like. Then there was
like the lighthouse that we went and did.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, but there was more than just that, because there
was like the Haunted prison walk. There were other just
like you know, but there was a few bus like
different bus services that you could go on. There haunted one.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I wonder if there's one in the prison in the
what I don't remember the name of it.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But Gail jails that one. I don't wonder if.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
They do them in there. My parents went on one,
I believe in Savannah, Georgia, to a prison like haunted.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Thingy Savannah prison.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't know, but my dad swears he was touched
on his head.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, he's touched all right now. Guides often dressed in
period costume, lead groups by lantern light through the district
shadowed streets, recounting stories of heartbreak, betrayal, and the unexplained.
Some tours focused on documented accounts from residents and workers,
while others embellished the legends for dramatic effect. So I guess,

(26:32):
do your research when you go on these and make
sure you're getting somebody who tells reputable stories.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now I understand from a business person, no.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I will disagree if you if you, if you say anything,
but they should be telling the truth. I don't. I
don't agree.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I don't agree with it at all. But from a
business standpoint, I don't think it's right. I don't think
they should be doing it, but to make it seem
more than it is.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Unless they are advertising that it is not true, they
shouldn't be allowed to do it.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I mean I agree.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So from a business standpoint, I actually think quite the opposite.
I think it's a bad move because what happens when
you get a bunch of people and then you take
them on this, you know, expedition to go check out
ghost stuff and you're telling them all kinds of made
up stories and they go home and look the stuff up.
Then what then you get in a lot of trouble
for lying. Yeah, So I disagree unless you're like, ooh,

(27:29):
come on a slightly fictional you know, voyage into the paranormal.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Slightly.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, I'm just saying because if you're mixing it up,
you could be like, you know, some of it we
embellish and make up for dramatic effect and other stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Is true, I mean fair.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
There will be some people who would take that because
they like the you know, the scarier aspect of it,
you know, but but you know, for other people.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
But advertise that if you're going to do that, Like,
you've got.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
To imagine if I went on one of these and
they weren't telling me the truth. You know, I'm the
type person I'm gonna go home, something's gonna stick in
my head, and I'm gonna be like, I'm looking that.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Up Google review. Here he comes.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hell, yeah, don't lie, don't lie to me, bruh. I
you better tell me the truth if I'm going on,
if I'm going on a historical outing that also includes
the paranormal, I understand the paranormal is very you know,
fifty to fifty nobody even knows if it's real. But
your historical facts better be right. Yeah, and if they're

(28:28):
not right, it better be just that one tour guide
who was mistaken. I'm just saying, well, that's fair. During
these nighttime explorations, visitors sometimes experience their own brush with
the uncanny, sudden chills, strange mists, or even fleeting glimpses
of figures in the dark. Now. For many, these encounters
blur the line between the town's well documented history and

(28:51):
the persistent possibility, of course, the unknown.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Spooky.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
There are theories in xp nations who a lot of
stuff though now. Skeptics and believers alike have long debated
the origins of williams Berg's haunted reputation. Some suggest that
the town's layered history, marked by war suffering and untimely deaths,
has created a kind of emotional residue, a psychic echo

(29:19):
that lingers in certain places now. Others point to environmental
factors like creaking floorboards, drafts, and shifting shadows that can
play tricks on the mind, which is obviously where I
stand on a lot of it. I mean, yes, look,
I sit in this house. You go to bed pretty early.
I'm up pretty late. Yes, sit, I usually play games

(29:41):
on the computer or something. You have no idea how
many floorboard creeks I hear throughout.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
The night, and when in the winter, when the heater's on,
forget it.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
It's it's like the house is trying to tap out
the new beat.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
And then like you know, if you're in a dimly
lit place and a cargoes by, maybe maybe you're not
close enough to the car to notice it, but them
headlights reach a lot farther than you think, especially when
you're somewhere.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Dark shadows off of things in the house, and.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
It's easy to mistake stuff. And drafts are a real thing.
Like you can just catch a draft from somewhere if
something's open, there could be a little pinhole in something
and you're gonna feel something. So like, I do believe
in the paranormal, but I also do believe in there's
a lot of times there was an explanation for a
lot of the stuff that people just claim it's paranormal,
which is why I think it's important to do that,

(30:31):
because then we can focus on the things that are
actually strange and need an explanation instead of trying to
under explain everything else. Okay, yeah, Yet for every attempt
at rational explanation, there are stories that defy easy answers.
Now counts of multiple witnesses seeing the same apparition or

(30:52):
of objects moving seemingly on their own fuel the belief
that Williamsburg exists at a crossroads between the past and present,
where time, memory, and mystery converge. And I agree with that.
I do think that there will be things that are
unexplainable and are probably paranormal in nature, especially in the
town like this. You know, not only where there Revolutionary

(31:19):
War hospitals and stuff like that, but the Civil War
had to happen and times were hard back then. People
just died, oh yeah, and then we haven't even like
I know, we talked about it last time, but we
haven't talked about it this time. The amount of slaves
that would have been killed and and would have died there,
So I mean, this place is no stranger to just death.

(31:42):
It's kind of like, you know, like like I don't
know how every inch of England isn't haunted.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, oh yeah, I just don't. And like these places
that have been around for this long or longer, like
you've got to think there are so many people that
have lived and died, whether that you know, they were generations,
family travelers in the war, Like, there's just so many

(32:09):
different areas that people could be here in in times,
and it's just the insane the amount of people that
have had to have come through here.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, you know what's weird is, like I'm sure are
you know European friends will agree with this, is that
it hasn't really been that long in comparison. You know,
we're a very young nation. These places, in the grand
scheme of things, haven't actually been around for very long.
But I guess if you're a born American into these new,

(32:42):
you know, areas and you die here, you don't really
know that, you know, So it doesn't really register the
whole time frame of how long you know, European Land
has been around. I don't know. Oh yeah, But of
course what do people who have visited the area have
to say about it? Now? I have to remember when
we get to the end of this, I have to

(33:02):
say something.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, So let's take to the internet.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, as we always do. Now. Sandye on trip
advisor dot Com in September of twenty sixteen had this
to say, go ahead, Sandy.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Quote, my husband and I decided to attend the Ultimate
Ghost Tour with the extended tour add on for seven
dollars a person on September thirteenth. This tour started at
eleven PM and did not allow children under the age
of twelve. It ended between twelve thirty and one am.

(33:35):
We started a little early because everyone was there early.
Kat was our tour guide and she was fantastic. She
was very knowledgeable and had a passion for the paranormal.
You could tell she believed in the way she told
the ghost stories, which made you believe. I had goosebumps
at multiple stops and became paranoid at times, exactly what

(33:58):
you want to happen on a ghost tour. Some of
the stories freaked me out so much I didn't think
I would want to visit some of the stops in
the daytime. Kat set a good walking pace and gave
plenty of time at each stop to allow for photos.
We did see some paranormal activity at a couple stops, blinds,

(34:20):
moving curtains, moving some old shapes and photos. But wait,
we were the only people to go on the extended tour.
It wasn't as it wasn't as long as we thought
it would be, but we learned a lot about William
and Mary and enjoyed talking ghosts with Kat. This was

(34:44):
our first ever ghost tour and it definitely set the
bar high for any other ghost tour we mee go
on in the future. Thanks Kat.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
They also saw a lot of odd shapes. What did
I say, old fine love works. I mean, I guess
technically they'd be old to. Yeah, so I think my
mouse needs a new battery. So yeah, I mean there's
the ghost tour. Somebody had a positive experience. People do

(35:13):
experience paranormal activity on it.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
The blinds and curtains.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Moving, could just be a draft man. Yeah, you know,
I don't know. I wasn't there, so it's hard to say.
You know, being there is different because then you get
a better feel on how it is.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, the vibe of the place, like all the things.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm trying to be like open minded about how I'm
saying a lot of this stuff, But you know what
I mean, I do now. Recreationv on trip advisor dot
com just recently back in October twenty twenty one, says quote,
we were a bit disappointed, expecting at least to feel
a little scared or uncomfortable. The tour guide told scary
stories which we thought were more sad than scary as

(35:58):
we walk through the dark city. I understand about not
going into the buildings due to COVID restrictions, but maybe
a shadow in a window or some flickering lights could
add to the mood or enhance the scare factor. But
then you're not really making it. Yeah, then you're not
really getting paranormal activity, dude, Right, So like then you're

(36:19):
just it's fake at that.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Point, she's just there for like a horror walk basically,
or a horror tour.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah. I mean you're literally saying we didn't say anything,
so make us see something. Yeah, thank Come on, dude.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Make it a haunted house, like what come on? No?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Now, there's one more from somebody named Patty Dumouth from
trip advisor dot com back in June twenty fifteen, and she.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Said, quote, the buildings were really neat and we also
took a ghost tour based on recent activity. I did
experience a couple of small paranormal things that happened while
we were there. One was a brush on the back
of my neck soon after we sat down for dinner
at the Shield Tavern, and the second one, I heard

(37:04):
like something drop at one of the buildings that wasn't
open because of so much paranormal activity.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I mean, closing down a building because of paranormal activity. Yeah,
I mean so, she says, I don't know, and I
don't know if that was a typo and it is
the Shield Tavern or if it's supposed to be Shield Tavern.
This is me. I really don't know. That's how she
wrote it. I don't know the location, but I just
want to throw that out there in case we're wrong
and how we read it. I just if you're from

(37:34):
the area, I'm not sure, my bad, that's.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
What it says.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I get, well, it says shield, but you reade it
as shield, which makes more sense. And it is it
is on there as a typo. Yeah, but I do these.
I just copy word for words so we can get
the quotes that the actual people said. Right, I would
have read it the same way you did, just because
shild Tavern doesn't sound right to me. But I could
be wrong. I don't know, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
A brush on the back of the neck.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I mean, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
But here's the thing I wanted to say. Okay, I
went through a ton a ton there are twelve thousand.
There's like twelve five hundred reviews. There are a lot
of bad reviews.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oh really, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
A lot of people very disappointed, not in the fact
that they didn't see paranormal it was like they didn't
like the tour. They felt like they were overcharged for
the tour, they didn't like how the tours were conducted,
they didn't like a lot of the stuff they saw.
They just there was a lot of a lot of
people mad about things that I'm I'm not going to

(38:36):
judge them for being mad at because I could see
myself being like I kind of sucked.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, like what did we pay for? Yeah kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, but there was a lot and there wasn't that
many reviews for paranormal stuff. Interesting, there was a lot
of people who talk about going on a tour and
they told them ghost stories about haunted locations.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But more like a history tour with something legend and.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Lore maybe, but nobody really talks about having any kind
of paranormal experience. Interesting, So I mean, just keep that
in mind, like if you go, Apparently a lot of
people think that they get overcharged for, you know, an
underrated tour. So maybe if you go, don't take the tour.
Maybe do some research before you go and take yourself

(39:22):
on a tour. Yeah, you know, enjoy the historical scenery,
which again, for me, that's enough, super cool. I would
go and just enjoy the history part of it, you know.
But some people they don't want to do that, and
they want to have somebody drag them around. I guess
I don't know. I don't like people enough for that.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I mean, you're signing up for a tour. It's kind
of the point, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
But I mean, do you want to pay you know,
twenty dollars a person for you know, a thirty minute
tour and it was awful? No, because that's kind of
the stuff we're looking at. Yeah, not good.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Why do tales of the paranormal persist so strongly in
colonial Williamsburg. Well, perhaps it is the way the district
itself feels suspended in time, its streets and buildings unchanged
for centuries. Or maybe, as some believe, the spirits of
those who shaped America's early days, are unwilling to leave, forever,

(40:20):
entwined with the city they helped to build. Regardless of
the explanation, the paranormal in the colonial district of Williamsburg,
Virginia endures as an essential thread in the town's tapestry.
Whether you're a historian in search of fact, or a
ghost hunter seeking adventure, or a traveler enticed by the unknown,
Williamsburg offers a unique blend of historical authenticity and supernatural suggestion,

(40:46):
ensuring that its stories, both seen and unseen, will never
be forgotten.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Never be forgotten.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
So, I mean, as we can see, colonial Williamsburg is
heavily rumored to be haunted. Yeah, but how much of
it is an urban legend?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I mean, do we ever really know?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
No, But this is like bigger than most places we
would talk about, Like, this place is widely accepted. I
said again, like this is a this is a ten
ten mile you know area.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
So, and it's beneficial for the town to keep its
paranormal reputation going because of tourism. Now, there will be
people in. There will be people who will just go
because it's old and rad but there's going to be
a lot of people who will go because it's old
and rad in because it's paranormal. So when we read

(41:41):
a lot about like these old institutions and houses and
hospitals and all this other stuff. I get why they
would tell these ghost stories because it drums up, for
lack of a better term, business, it's you know, self
serving to tell these stories, and it would be it
would be too And I wonder how much of these

(42:03):
stories are created, you know, at a bar one night,
people trying to keep the the tourism bucks coming in. Yeah,
I get it, you know, it's it's just one of
the things that you always got to keep in the
back of your mind. We know about all these haunted locations,
but you also need to think that a lot of
these places, you know, they depend on tourism dollars coming

(42:24):
in and pumping into the area, and they need.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
It so and if you can have like this extra
corner to entice people for tourism, why wouldn't you talk
about it, you know exactly?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
So, I mean, stories are made up all the time
to keep places alive, to keep you know, keep people
talking about it so that way people will keep coming
back again. Though this place is a little different. This
is a giant historic living museum type area. People will
come regardless, but it doesn't hurt to have, you know,
extra million people come show up for you know, paranormal

(43:02):
and it feeds the area. You know, we came from Florida.
We know how important it is to an area for
to much. But I do got to ask you a question, okay,
and it is do you think the Colonial District in Williamsburg,

(43:22):
Virginia is haunted?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think I'm gonna kind of go off of what
I was alluding to last week because I still feel
the same.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Allude to however you want. I know what you said.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I feel like this whole area just being so incredibly
steeped in history with war and I mean they went
through just based on when this town was made, like
famines and you know what I mean, like just so
many years of things, so much history there that so

(44:00):
many people died along the way. And I think that
this whole area is haunted. Do I think very specific
places are. Maybe, but I feel like if it's a
town that it would hold more wondering spirits. I guess, so, yes,

(44:24):
I do think this town is on it.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I would have let you go on forever, what about you.
I mean, it would be pretty hypocritical if I said no,
Because I said last week that I think that there
is something at the Payton Randolph House. And how could
I say that the rest of the area wouldn't. This
is different than most places. This is an area where

(44:47):
it's relatively young as far as years when it comes
to the rest of the world. But here it's the
beginning footprints of America. So again, these people who would
have been born, like the first people born and died,
you know, to these colonies that the concept for that
really wouldn't have been considered. So to them, it was

(45:09):
just it's been around forever. And I do think that
there's been already what two wars that went through there,
three if you count you know, people getting shipped off
for you know, World War One, World War two, actually
I think four. So this place has been touched by
a war basically since its inception. It started with a war,

(45:29):
you know, your brothers on brothers fighting in another war,
and people died here by them. I would be willing
to bet large large number of people died here because
of the hospital, like more than say other towns that
maybe didn't have a hospital, maybe they saw fighting, but
this place you have the fighting and the hospital aspect

(45:52):
of it. So I just feel like, if we're going
to talk about American history and what causes hauntings and stuff,
and not to mention we keep gloss over the fact
that slid you know, slaves being tortured and killed treated badly.
I'm gonna say, yeah, I do. I do, absolutely think
that there could be something that haunts this place for

(46:13):
that reason because of all the stuff that we've for
the last four years that we've talked about saying, well
this could you know, this is probably what causes it. Well,
this is everything we've ever said that about rolled up
into a ten mile square radius. Yeah, there's just too much,
too much history. So even if it's not like an
intelligent type haunting too much as there's been too much

(46:37):
blood on this ground for something not to be left here.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Absolutely energy left behind.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And that's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Thank you for sharing.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I still don't know if Megan thinks it haunted or not,
but I said, yes, we're talking about well last week
or last time, he said, no.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I know, I don't think that specific place is like
individually haunted.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'll be if we went back in our in our catalog,
you've said ghosts can wander just depends on the day. Okay,
I feel you Sometimes I say contradictive things to my
own self. It's fine, you're human. I do it too, Okay,

(47:19):
Megan does not like to be called out.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't care well anyways.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
So I guess that means it's haunted.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
That was this episode.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, the only like, we're not going to talk about
it next week. We've covered this one now. But I
do think in the future I would like to talk
about that church and graveyard because it just seems like
a really I don't know, have we ever done a
haunted church?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
No, No, I don't know. I don't think so, I
don't know, but we might. Maybe we'll do our effort.
I know we did when we did the New Orleans Cemetery.
I believe there was a church in that story, but
it wasn't about it. But whatever whatever of places. Yeah,
you know, we'll get to it eventually. But you know,
you can find us online for the Booze.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
For the Booze if you want to have a no,
if you want to give a show suggestion or just
say hi or anything like that, you can shoot us
an email at for the Booze twelve at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
So look, I'm thinking about once again changing our live
format because well, listen, I'm gonna explain this for everybody.
Since we started doing these four days a week now,
we have a really hard time doing our Patreon podcast.
And that's because Megan works super early. She gets home,

(48:41):
we have time to do this, eat dinner, take shower,
and she goes to bed. It's been very hard to
be able to do that. And if I'm being honest,
we don't have huge turnouts for our live which is fine,
which is fine people. I see people watch them later
and that's totally fine. So I'm thinking about doing one
there two days a week, and then that way we

(49:03):
have extra time during the week we can We'll have
plenty of time to get our Patreon podcast one, because
right now it's just it's almost like we can't do
it right. And like, I know, you know, if our
Patreon members are listening, is if you're if you're not
part of Patreon, you don't need to worry about this.
But if you're listening in your our Patreon members, you've
noticed it's been a couple of weeks, you know, a

(49:24):
few weeks since we quote went out. Because we're we're
really having a hard time trying to figure out timing wise,
Megan's schedule is like she has to go better really
early and she gets up really early, so it's very difficult.
So three am, I'm thinking about maybe doing I don't know,
like Tuesday Thursday Lives or something to that effect. I

(49:45):
don't think it would hurt anything, you know, we're just
hanging out watching videos anyway, and then that would give
us more time to get those extra Patreon episodes out
to everybody. So I think I think that's what we're
gonna do starting Yeah, well I feel bad, So I
think that's what we're gonna do starting next week is
I think we're just gonna do Lives Tuesday Thursday, and
that'll be our permanent schedule into the foreseeable future. That way,

(50:07):
we can go ahead and get our our Patreon stuff
done as well, you know, because this isn't, you know,
all we have in our life. Yet we don't, you know,
we can't live off of the podcast. We have to
sacrifice sometimes, So so tell everybody you know, I don't
want to come along, and if you do want to

(50:29):
join Patreon and help us out, it's for the Booze
Underscore podcast over there and join the the best community
of the coolest people, the bestest, the spookiest, the spookiest people.
But anyways, I say let's go ahead and get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
All right, I say let's do it well. Thank you
everybody so much for listening, and we will see in
the next one.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Bye. I love honed gram Hurance
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