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May 5, 2025 47 mins
Welcome Back B-oo's Crew! This week we head down to San Antonia, TX to talk about a place we have never heard of! The Emily Morgan Hotel started its life over 100 years ago as a medical facility that was part of the Alamo plaza...However, the hotel, named after a slave woman believed to have been the reason for the victory at San Juacinta, was not given life until 1984.
 Being so close to the site of the Alamo battle where more than 600 men died, and the hundreds that would live and die in the medical facility, its no wonder it is believed to be haunted. But, by who? Join as we take a trip through american history and folklore and ask the question.."Is It Real!?"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M Hey everybody, and welcome back to Okay, you go ahead,

(00:45):
you go right on.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ahead, hey everybody, and welcome back to for the bugis.
That's right, So we're back. Uh. We we're gonna have
some things happening because we've been having this is the
only problem with doing Patreon right before this is we
jest did this and we've been having some like scheduling
issues because both of our life hours are changing. Yeah,

(01:07):
so what we're going to do to fix us? One
of our patreons, Eric came up with a good suggestion.
We're going to take a week off or a week
a month off from the regular podcast, but that does
not mean you will not hear from us. If you're
on Patreon, you'll still get your Patreon episodes every week.
But we're also going to do lives for maybe once
or twice a week until we come back. This way

(01:28):
we can stockpile episodes and we will no longer run
into this problem. Yeah, we'll just get some under the belt.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
That way we have them. If we want to do
a specific episode episode on like a week or something,
we can just take take that and record it. But
that way we still have some So if there are
scheduling issues.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
We do have some extras to give you should fix
this problem. Yeah, because struggle busting. Yeah, we were going
to go live today, but unfortunately our son has a
doctor's appointment that I forgot about. So we're going to
do it on Wednesday. This way actually better because I
can actually give like a you know, heads up. So
on Wednesday at two pm easter In time, Yes, at
twelve pm Mountain twelve pm Mountain time, because that's our time,

(02:11):
we're gonna go live on YouTube and we're just gonna
hang out. You know. We have two stories from Benjamin.
We're gonna read one today and let me tell you why,
because I want to save the other one for the live.
I want to save one for the life. Okay, so
that would we at least have something to read on there.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Then if you hear this, jump on the live and
can talk to us a little further.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
If we have questions, we can ask you and we'll
go on. There's no set like amount of time, you know,
if you want to ask questions or just hang out,
that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, I'm super excited. But anyways,
let's the first story, the only story really because I'm
only gonna read one today. It just says listener story
deer booths grew. It's been a while. Sorry about that.

(02:56):
I hate that we never got a chance to meet
and hang out when you guys still lived in Florida.
I know we met you kind of late, and then
we moved. We had to move quick, unfortunately. But it's
story time. I'm sure you're familiar with the Skyway Bridge
and the history of the collapse in nineteen eighty. I
had no idea about it until the strangest thing happened
to me on the Skyway on a trip to go

(03:18):
fishing one day, I was headed southbound over the bridge
and noticed an old school charter bus beating southbound. It
was odd to me seeing something happen like that like this,
as the bridge is always packed with traffic. Yeah, always,
Now the bus was literally driving right beside me until
it wasn't. I thought it was tripping'. I wiped my

(03:41):
eyes and shook my head and even slapped myself a
few times to make sure I was actually awake, and
I was. I finally got to the other side of
the bridge and pull over, only to see the bus
again from my fishing spot. And no it was a
different bus. I think he meant no, it wasn't a
different bus. It was the same bus and it vanished

(04:02):
at the same spot for three hours as I sat
fishing and watching the bridge. What. When I got home,
I did some research and found out that in nineteen
eighty in the southbound lane, six cars a truck in
a Greyhound bus plummeted one hundred and fifty feet into
Tampa Bay, resulting in thirty five deaths. Going across this

(04:24):
bridge has always haunted me. Now I know why. Thanks
for listening and sharing. With much love, Ben stop it
very cool story. I do know the bridge what I
do too. The collapse was a year I was born. Yes,
yes it was, and I was not born in Florida. Wow.
Do this so creepy? And he kept seeing it? Not
just like the one time he saw it again? Wow,

(04:44):
I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Yeah, I
was going to say, I couldn't imagine. Yeah, that would
creep me, That would be creepy. Yeah, that's super weird.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I wonder if it disappeared in the spot where the
collapse happened.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't know, or like where it originated or something,
you know, I mean as possible. Yeah, I don't know.
Or maybe it's just.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Kind of like that memory replay haunting.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It just endlessly drives the road from which it once was.
Are you gonna finish? I had to think about what
I was saying. I'm tired. I know I can get
very good sleep. Last night it was up and down
all night, have a weird nightmares and stuff. I can
read the text on your phone from here. Shut up, dude,

(05:28):
I didn't. I didn't bring my glasses down. I was,
I was. I was struggling on the Patreon one. Oh,
so we're gonna We're gonna do no hello, Yeah, that's me.
We're gonna do a place that I've never heard of. Okay,
it's in Texas. It's in Houston, Texas. Yeah, or no,

(05:50):
San Antonio, Texas. Sorry, I don't know why I thought Houston,
San Antonio, San Antonio. Yeah. And apparently there's a lot
of like really haunted stuff there. But this one has
a special connection to the Alamo. Ooh, and there's the
next one. After our month we come back. There's it's
not a part two, but there is another place that

(06:14):
is very closely tied to this one that is also haunted,
and I thought, man, that'd be kind of cool. Yeah,
because I think originally I was like, the Alamo has
to be haunted. What's around there? And there is stuff
around there, lots of stuff. And then we're going to
stay in Texas for even longer because I found some
cool stuff in the town you lived in when you
were a kid. Yes, which tall falls. So I want

(06:35):
to talk about some of that too. Yay, I'm excited
about that. But we're headed to San Antonio. We're going
to talk about a place called the Emily Morgan Hotel.
In this place has read a good story around why
it's called the Emily Morgan. Have you ever heard of it? No,
I've never heard of it either, which is really weird

(06:55):
because I don't know you'll see why. I don't want
to give it away now, but this place was voted
as something and it's not what you think it is.
It's not the most adults, no, but it was officially
voted as something, so I'm surprised I've never heard of it. Interesting. Now,
I'm not going into the history of San Antonio like

(07:16):
I would normally do, because we've talked about Texas a
lot and like the history and stuff. So if you
want to go back and listen to because I believe
the wedding venue we talked about was also in San Antonio,
and we did a pretty long breakdown of like the history,
and I don't want to do it again. So normally,
if I if we do a location that's in a
location that we've done before, I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Not super town specific or something, just like stuff that
we haven't covered, I don't.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Feel the need to go into the same history again.
I just don't need to. The Emily Morgan Hotel did
not actually become the fame hotel that it is today
until nineteen eighty four. Oh wow, So this is probably
one of the newer places that we've talked about. However,
this place has been around a long time, originally a

(08:01):
medical arts building, then later transformed into an office complex.
The Emily Morgan Hotel is a landmark in the state
of Texas and was recognized by the National Register of
Historical Places as part of the Alamo Plaza Historic District
in nineteen seventy seven. So it's part of the Alamo Plaza,
so it's not just like a hotel around, it's part

(08:24):
of it. It was part of it? But who is
Emily Morgan Well. The Battle of the Alamo that took
place from February twenty third to March sixth in eighteen
thirty six, is considered by many historians to be the
turning point in Texas's fight for independence from Mexico. Now,
six weeks after the Battle at the Alamo in April

(08:45):
and eighteen thirty six, the Texan and Mexican armies moved
their moved their confrontation to a small prairie called San Jacinto.
During siesta time on April twenty first, eighteen thirty six,
the Texas Army led a charge against the Mexican camp
a General Santa Anna, which we've talked about before, which
is why I didn't go into the history. Leader of

(09:07):
the Mexican forces had posted no guards, and the Texans
won the decisive battle in less than an hour. What
now Folklore states that the Mexican's slow response to the
Texans charge was due to General Santa Anna being otherwise
occupied and entertained during his siesta by Emily D. West,

(09:29):
a twenty year old black, indentured servant who had been
captured along with other members of her household by the
Mexican forces on April sixteenth, eighteen thirty six. So they
think that basically a slave was the reason for this
battle being won in less than an hour.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
That's insane, less than an hour.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Now, Emily was indentured to Colonel James Morgan, and the
custom at the time dictated that indentured servants took the
surname of their master, hence the reason she is more
widely known as Emily Morgan. Okay, though there is no
official account of a woman in Santa Anna's tent at
the time, a journal entry written in eighteen forty two
by British traveler William Baliart Ballier, I don't know how

(10:17):
to pronounce it, planted the seeds of Emily's legend quote.
The Battle of San Jacinto was probably lost to the
Mexicans owing to the influence of a Mulatto girl belonging
to Colonel Morgan, who was closeted in the tent with
General Santa General Santana. Huh, we knew him as something else,

(10:40):
but okay, at the time cry was made the enemy,
they come, they come. She delayed Santa Anna so long
that order could not be restored readily. Again unquote. So
it's written, it's written in some kind of history texts
that this girl did exist, while there isn't any proof

(11:02):
of her existence.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, I find it strange. I guess how like
one specific person has been said to kind of hold
things up for long enough for a battle to be won.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
In less than an hour. But what's strange about that?
I like, are there specifics? Like no, because there's no
proof that this girl even really existed, but she was written.
This is the problem. It's been written in the books.
There's not a whole lot of record keeping when it
came to people in slavery. Yeah, so it's it. It's

(11:41):
highly possible and plausible that she could have existed, but
there is no official record of her existing. But there
is something written that talks about her. So it's more
than likely that she did exist, but there's just no
solid proof that she existed. Okay, so it's you know,

(12:02):
it's folklore. It has to be because there's no record. Now,
while the loss of the battle is officially attributed to
the overall carelessness of General Santa Anna, the folk legend
of Emily Morgan's role in the battle began to grow
with portrayals of Emily ranging from a sweet young girl
who distracted the general with a simple dance to a
cunning and clever vixen who drugged the Mexican army's leader

(12:25):
as she as he slept d So there's not even
any real record of like what actually if she did it,
how did she do it? Yeah, you know, and there
was a they were in the middle of the war too.
So now not much is known about Emily Morgan's life
after the end of the Texas Revolution. After several disputes
over her status as a quote free black lady, her

(12:48):
papers confirming this were lost when she was captured by
the Mexicans. It is believed she returned to her home
state of New York. Her legend, however, continued to grow,
and it is widely held that she was the inspiration
for the much loved song quote the Yellow Rose of Texas,
written shortly after the war. So there's even songs about her.

(13:09):
I don't I don't think I've ever heard that. Well,
it's a song from eighteen thirties Texas, so I doubt
that you would have ever heard the song.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's not on mainstream radio, you mean.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And I don't know how like copyright works in regards
to stuff that old. So it's it's not even like
I could pull it up and play it because I'm
just not sure we can. But there is a song.
So if you've ever heard the Yellow Rose of Texas
or do you want to go listen to it, it's
apparently about Emily Morgan. Interesting. The Emily Morgan Hotel was
born of marble Rock before it became one of the

(13:40):
most luxurious hotels in all of San Antonio, Texas. In
comparison to many other historic hotels, the Emily Morgan Hotel
has only been in action since it's grand opening in
nineteen eighty four. This place has existed longer though. Okay,
it just wasn't a hotel until nineteen eighty four, gotcha? Gotcha?
Kind of like the Poule dev Yeah, which if you're

(14:03):
just a listener of the regular podcast, we did a
Patreon episode about a place called Paul Dever and it
was first a military camp, yes, and then it became
a state school. Since then, the number of accolades the
Emily Morgan has received has been countless, and in twenty
fifteen it was inducted into the Historic Hotels of America

(14:24):
of American Organization. Its historical importance within San Antonio was
noted even earlier in nineteen seventy seven, when it was
recognized by the National Register of Historic Places as part
of the Alamo Plaza. We said earlier. It's been featured
in numerous magazines, including one composed by American Airlines. In
twenty ten, it received the American Institute of Architects San

(14:48):
Antonio's twenty five year Distinguished Building Award. Wow this look. Wow,
this building. It's not what I was expecting when I
looked at it. It's pretty modern looking. It's really big,
and it's just it's just not what I was thinking
it was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
What did you think, more like in like an old
school style building?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I thought more old school, maybe like more Spanish looking.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Okay, that makes sense, It's not really.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, it's really weird.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Despite the thirteen stories tall Gothic Revival structure having only
been home to the Emily Morgan since the mid nineteen eighties,
the building itself has been much more than that since
the nineteen twenties. It was the building's first usage nearly
a century ago that earned the Elegant Emily Morgan Hotel.
Yet one more accolade. In twenty fifteen, USA Today listed

(15:44):
the Emily Morgan Hotel as the third most haunted hotel
in the world. Whoa not in we never hear that
the world?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Which is? I don't understand how I've never heard of
those places? Wow?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah? Third in the world.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
World where the most haunted hotel in America? Yeah, like
the number one most haunted place.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, but no, this was an actual by USA Today. Yeah,
third most haunted in the world. Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I want to know what one and two are.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think one is one we've already done. I think
it's the ban Hotel. Okay, I've heard I see a
lot of stuff about that, which is weird because when
we did that episode, like, I have really struggled finding
stuff about it. Before the building was built, the grounds
of what is now the hotel was where the Mexican
forces battled the Texas in the Long Barracks of the

(16:37):
Alamo in eighteen thirty six. Over six hundred men lost
their lives very close to the hotel. This isn't a
cross town like we've bumped into before.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
This is like next door, right, that's a lot that's
a lot six hundred.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
When originally built, the location was the Medical Arts Building.
It housed over one hundred medical professionals, from doctors to dentists.
It was even leave to have a section devoted to
the care of those suffering from psychological conditions. So think
of it as like a catch all building for all
medical ailments. Okay, in the nineteen twenty so, and yes,

(17:13):
the botomies happened here and with like a mental health
w they were It wasn't known for a lobotomies. It
wasn't like an everyday occurrence, but they did happen.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Well, I'm sure it was way back in the day,
and they happened very fat But.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
We've talked about hospitals in the past that I mean,
that was like the thing they did.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
No I know, but I'm sure a lot of them
tried to not make that their main thing.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
But like if they I would disagree. I think a
lot of them wanted it to be their main thing
because it because it made people lethargic, like it just
turned them into zombies. Yeah, so if you've got patients
that are mentally ill unruly streaming, Yeah, the better way
to shut that down than the stick and ice pick
in their eye. So bad, so bad. It's not good. No,

(18:01):
I mean what I should do. The thing that really
like sticks with me is that there's people alive today
that had lobotomists had them. Yeah. Absolutely, it hasn't even
been that long. It's so crazy there. I wish I
could remember the guy's name. But there's there's like an
interview with a guy that I've seen on YouTube somewhere,
and I think he's alive. I don't know if he

(18:25):
is anymore. I think he is, but he had a
lobotomy as a kid, and he talks about it and
somehow he I think after so long it comes back
because he seemed very normal. He seemed very It's like
a temporary thing.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Then I don't know what if they mess it up
and like it's a lifelong, really crappy thing.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, because I think messing up when you do a
lobotomy is deaf. Well, that would make I think, Yeah,
I think the mistakes or.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
You die like tiny little and that's it.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well yeah, because they're right next to your brain there.
I forget what it is they're doing, but I know
they're like tapping into a part of your brain. And
like severing it so gross that it's pretty nasty. It's so gross,
it's pretty gross, it's pretty weird and intriguing detail of
the Gothic style building design is the gargoyles that line
the exterior walls, depicting various ailments and afflictions, highlighting the

(19:25):
original purpose of the building to treat the sick and injured.
So there's gargoyles outside. Yeah, it's stop it. It's a
cool building.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh, I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It is a cool building the building. The building also
had a morgue and a crematorium, providing for patients and
their families from birth to end of life. As with
any historic building, the stories about the building begin to grow,
fueled by the depth and richness of this history. So
as this is the only problem, stories evolve. So this

(20:01):
is where I have an issue fully believing things. It's
because a lot of stuff ends up being folklore.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Tales and legends, yes, turn into story.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yes, it's like you know, something small happened like and
then all of a sudden it just becomes this massive
story that didn't happen right, And it happens a lot.
As these stories are told from person to person. They
can sometimes take an eer equality, but they can also
take a false quality too, agreed. After the Emily Morgan
Hotel became the Emily Morgan Hotel, it underwent a partial

(20:34):
renovation in nineteen ninety seven, followed by a multi millionaire
hall from two thousand and one to two thousand and two,
after the hotel could then After then, it claimed one
hundred and seventy seven rooms and twenty four suites to
its name. Wow, it's a big hotel, huge hotel. There's
even a champagne bubble hot tub in one of the

(20:54):
beautiful suites which overlooks the street below. I want that
one so you could be nicked in the bubble bath
looking down at everybody walking by. The only problem with
that is you could be naked in the bubble and
they could look at you. Another multi millionaire renovation took
place in twenty twelve, and the Emily Morgan then came
under the ownership of The Double Tree by the Hilton family.

(21:17):
It's a Double Tree, all right, It's nice. However, there
are two things that never changed despite all of the
interior changes throughout the years. It's a little weird. The
first is the blank space between the fourteenth floor and
the observation tower, where a clock was meant to be
installed at some point but never was. And the second

(21:38):
is that there is no true fourteenth floor, as the
fourteenth floor of the Emily Morgan Hotel is actually the
thirteenth floor. What, Like many public buildings across the nation
and in the world, the Emily Morgan Hotel has chosen
to fore go its thirteenth floor in the name of superstition.
Climb into the elevator and you'll find that the fourteenth

(22:00):
floor is only one stop away from the twelfth. Oh
a lot of places do that because people don't want
to stay on the thirteenth floor, so they just got
to close it down and not even worry about it. Oh,
they just don't even have one. They just skip the number.
So there is the thirteenth floor, but it's the.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Fourteenth actually they name it fourteen. Okay, it's kind of weird.
But and why wouldn't they ever put a clock up?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean I did, probably funding at the time.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Weird, But now though, like, hello, why aren't we putting
it up?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't it's weird. I don't know. I agree with you.
The Emily Morgan has taken it a step further too,
because not only have they eliminated the thirteenth floor, but
they also cut out room fourteen oh eight. What hold on,
I'll explain. Room fourteen oh seven is seated adjacently to
room fourteen oh nine. And it's because when the numbers

(22:52):
are added together, one plus four plus zero plus eight
equals thirteen.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Oh I get that bad?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, that bad some people. Look, there are people out
there who would not stay in this. I don't know who.
I mean, It wouldn't bother me. No, I would stay
in room fourteen oh eight if it was on the
thirteenth floor. I don't care. Yeah, but that's so weird.
It's very interesting, and I did have to think about it.
And it does equal thirteen. It does? Yeah, it does, Yeah,

(23:23):
it does. I just did maths. You did math?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Wow, it hurts. I hurt my brain. I bet I
see your rye twitchin.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I don't know why they let me do numbers at
work at your job now.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
For many owners of large scale corporations like hotels, the
swap of the thirteenth and fourteenth floor is done to
avoid any possible bad luck that might be headed their way,
even more, it's often done to settle the nerves of
any superstitious guests unwilling to stay on the often dreaded
thirteenth floor. So it's it's just purely superstition, Okay. The

(23:57):
most haunted floors are said to be the seventh, ninth,
and fourteenth in addition to the basement.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
So the thirteen still couldn't even get away from it,
still the thirteenth floor.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
It was these particular floors that at one time functioned
as the psychiatric ward, surgery level, waiting area and morgue
at the Emily Morgan. Almost all of the paranormal reports
involved ghosts and spirits from days gone by when the
building was the medical building. Oh okay, there's a lot

(24:27):
of activity that happens here a lot. This is why
you don't understand how I've never heard of it, right,
like when I was reading the stories and like I
don't know, like hotels are like one of those places
or one of those types of places that end up
being pretty well known as haunted. How has this never
come up for me? And if you if it's really weird,

(24:50):
because we do a lot of research, Yeah, and if
any of you guys out there listening. Ever heard of this,
let me know, because it might be only one.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I know it's kind of weird because like you're constantly
looking for things, So how has this not ever come up?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
And I so weird never come across this before. The
staff and guests of the hotel have shared their stories
about weird occurrences at the hotel over the years. These
moments of weirdness have led some to conclude that the
hotel is haunted. Obviously we're talking about it.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I like hearing from the staff because they like they're
there all the time. They know what it's supposed to
feel like, so when things are off like they know, well.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
The staff is actually scared of certain places.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
For example, the phone will ring in the middle of
the night and when picked up, there's just no one
on the other end of the line. A room attendant
will clean a room after and then after emerging from
the bathroom, we'll find all the pillows from the bed
have just been tossed on the ground. Rude, a sales
manager spending the night, actually returned to her room after
dinner to find the bathtub had been filled with blue water.

(25:56):
Not just waters, blue water.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Had to be a prank.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Correct, I don't know, but that's a claim that's super weird.
The staff has even made several reports of seeing doors
closed for no reason and feeling a presence on certain
floors with no one else around them. So you know,
just that.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Eerie feeling, feelings behind you or next to you, or oh.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, that's that telltale sign of something's happening here. Yep.
Guests have claimed to have heard what they describe as
hospital carts outside their door, and the fourteenth floor has
a distinct smell of antiseptic or band aid odor. And
I know this smell, yep. Absolutely, If you've ever held
a band aid and just had the weird urge to
smell it, that's what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's a it's a it's a distinct smell, very distinct.
Oh it's like something that everybody can smell and know
exactly what that is. Another occurrence, many claims have been
made that the elevators will just stop at various floors
for no reason. I mean that happens. Though it does happen.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
That could be, you know, very much an elevator issue.
That could be like a just an elevator issue in general,
because I'm thinking, like sensors, I'm thinking, you know, there's
so many things that could attribute to that.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So that's the one thing. When I read that, I
was like, that that happens, That happens all the other ones. Yeah, cool,
I'm on board.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
If it opens and then a button gets pushed like
lights up on its own, very specifically, I feel like
that would be different. Yeah, but just it going to
I don't know, stopping at weird places.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I've been on elevators that have done that and the
doors open and there's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah. Now, today the basement is completely roped off to
anyone who's not employed by the hotel, But even for employees,
the basement is a creepy place.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's a basement.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
For years, it was used as the medical Center's Morgan Crematorium.
Employees who have to do work downstairs claim to have
experienced a strange number of weird things. They've seen glowing
orbs dancing in the area in the air, as well
as having heard disembodied voices that have no known source. However,

(28:01):
none of that compares to the stench of burning human flesh. Okay,
but here's another thing. If it was a crematorium smell
like concrete is porous, and what if the smell is
just kind of in the brick? Okay, yeah, I could
see that on a human day because this Texas. Yeah,

(28:23):
or you know, as the weather shifts, it could be
letting out release smell. You know what I'm saying. Though,
I get.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
It, but if anyone knows, let us know. But like
my question would be, I understand your burning bodies in
an incinerator, I get it, but like, doesn't it burn
so hot?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Is nineteen twenties?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh yeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
This didn't happen in two thousands. Okay, it's the twenties,
so for all we know, it could have been a
burn barrel. Well I'm just saying I okay, And it's
and it's not like all right, like how we think
of incinerator now. It's like it's all enclosed. It a
huge tube things. Yeah, it's gas and it gets super hot,
and you know, you close doors air tight. They probably

(29:13):
got it hot enough back then, but I would imagine
that even if it was a box had closed in,
it's not the level of what we would have today. Yeah,
so I'm sure it let out the smell gross now,
just in the walls. Yeah, the number of dead who
were embombed or who underwent autopsies in the basement of

(29:33):
the Emily Morgan was probably somewhere in the hundreds, and
it should come as no surprise that many of the
dead have remained in that space. Down in the basement,
the air reportedly feels quite heavy, and employees hurry with
their tasks so they can ascend to one of the
upper levels. They that's amazing, Like, no, that's the main
thing is that the people who work here just don't

(29:54):
want to be in the basement. They do not like
going in the basement. It's been said that each floor
of the Emily Morgan has its own distinct smell, but
none so off putting as that of the basement level.
That's so gross. It's so weird to think. It's like,
it's a smell variety through the whole every floor. What
am I gonna smell?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Now?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, that's weird. Oh I'm getting a text message weird now.
According to staff of the Emily Morgan, the seventh floor
of the hotel might be haunted by a ghostly bride.
What ghost story which is not complete with who is
she and why is she haunting the hotel? Well, no
one really has an answer to this question. Oh, a

(30:37):
woman's unearthly shrieks Carrie in the dead of the night,
waking sleeping guests. Frightened by the chilling sound. Many guests
call down to the front desk to ask about the
disembodied voice. The front desk attendants never seem to have
the answer, other than to offer a we're sorry, but
we do think it might be the ghost responsible for that.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I love that they say that, though there is Okay,
the only thing I could think connected to this, there
was a girl stabbed to death in this hotel a
long time ago. I think it was like in the
seventies or something. Okay, could be her. Now, this girl,
this is real girl. She has a name picture yea,

(31:18):
so it's possible it's her. But I don't believe she
was being married there or anything so interesting. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I wonder where they get bribed from those white There
is an apparition to go along, yeah with screaming.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, people have seen what looks like a woman in
all white, and I guess they just assume it's a
wedding dress.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
That's just looking. That's just what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Could you imagine being a front desk person just getting
phone calls at almost like the exact same time every
single night from people Supposedly.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
This is so bad that there are accounts of people
who have left the hotel.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
They're just like, yeah, no, peace out.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
They're freaked out. Yeah, And those are real stories. Those
aren't like stories that they're telling. These are stories that
I found from other people, Like they get scared and
they leave. I can't remember if it's because I do have,
you know, reviews at the end of the hotel, and
I can't remember if it was one that I used,
but somebody stayed here and specifically remember the people in

(32:20):
their neighboring room having an experience and freaked out and left.
They were scared. Wow. Now, for many, the activity is
too much to bear. Apparitions have been cited as their
translucent frames dart through the rooms, often disappearing right into
the wall it self, and on some occasions, those same
apparitions appear when guests look into the mirror to check

(32:43):
their reflection. That that freaks me out more than anything. No, No,
the fact that like what if you get up because like,
you know, I'm old. I wake up in the middle
of the night to pee, and what if I go
in there and I look in the mirror half asleep
and another face appears in the mirror with me.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Or even if it's like the translucent like they're talking about,
because you know, like you think of it in your
brain and like it's almost like wavy air that you
would see, but like it's obviously an outline of something
you just like are seeing through it.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I don't know if I see it as wavy air
as so much as it's like a see through version
of you.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I just either way, it's not supposed to be there. No,
So I just I can't think. I can't wrap my
head around like just going into the bathroom to look
in the mirror and another face appears. I don't care
what it looks like. Shouldn't be there. If it's going
to be there, I hope she's good looking. We're alone
in the bathroom. Those playful spirits never cause any harm, though,

(33:46):
But even so, reports of guests leaving the hotel in
the middle of the night or demanding to switch rooms
is not out of the norm. At the Emily Morgan
hotel happens all the time, so do they keep rooms open?
Does it happen? I mean, if there's vacancies, But that's
what I'm saying. Other people have just left. That's so crazy. So,
I mean, it's crazy to think about. But there has

(34:10):
to be some truth to this, yeah, right, Like, I
don't know if it's ghosts, but something's happening because people
are leaving. That's wild. But what do guests of the
hotel have to say about it? Well, we took to
the internet to find out that's right. In March of
twenty twenty four, Maggie on TripAdvisor dot com wrote, quote,

(34:31):
the Emily Morgan is a beautiful vintage hotel. We stayed
in the John Wayne Suite, which was very nice up
on the fourteenth floor. The thirteenth floor. Yeah, okay, I'll
say that I heard while in bed. What I would
say was the sound of a person walking around in
the sitting room wearing spurs in the middle of the night.

(34:53):
I then read about the hotel and saw that some
say the hotel is haunted. Can't say I believe in hauntings,
but I did hear what I heard. On another note,
The staff in both the hotel and bar were wonderful,
and the hotel's proximity to the Riverwalk in Alamo was
perfect close by but not noisy like it can get
at places on the Riverwalk. I think it's funny to

(35:16):
say I heard a ghost, but I don't believe in ghosts.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I heard something, and I mean, look, spurs makes sense. Yeah,
it's in Texas.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
You're in Texas, yeap, the Alamo's right there.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Just that sound that ching.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Six hundred people died there. That's crazy. So I mean
it does make sense. Yeah, it does spurs, you know. Yeah,
but I don't believe. I don't either. In December twenty
twenty one, on TripAdvisor dot com, Jefsica R. Wrote quote,
we were excited to stay at a haunted hotel and

(35:53):
we got some spooky phone calls but no ghost sightings.
The location could not be beat and we loved being
a to stop by La Pandaria. I'm sorry if I
butchered that. I apologize. Each morning for coffee and pastries,
service was top notch special thanks to JM and Brenda
for their hospitality. Now, the only reason I added this

(36:15):
one is because.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I had a question about that.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
What because it coincides with the story. They're getting phone
calls with nobody on the other line, which is something
that is said to happen frequently. Yeah, yeah, so I
had to add it. Okay, and one more. In March
twenty twenty one, colebr on TripAdvisor dot com wrote, quote,

(36:41):
in my opinion, this hotel is definitely haunted. The fourteenth
or thirteenth floor, Yeah, there you go. Unarguably smells like
a hospital. The building used to be a hospital many
decades ago, and there are rumors about what those floors
used to be used for. That said, we did have
a few mishaps with the heat on the fourteenth floor

(37:02):
and only one elevator was working our whole visit. Though
the staff was quick to make everything right for us.
It was much appreciated. I think he meant, wasn't. The
valet specifically Diego was fantastic. And that's the end. And
the reason I added that one is because again that

(37:22):
coincides with the story. Yeah, the smell, the smell of
antiseptic and band aids. Hospital. Now there's a lot. There's
more stuff that goes on there, there's a lot. I
guess I'm holding my phone. There's frequent sightings of all

(37:44):
kinds of apparitions. Disembodied voices are a big thing. There's
apparently they catch orbs on videos constantly.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh, I'm those I'm skeptical of most.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Of the time. I'm always skeptical of worst only because
it depends. It depends. Is it an IR light for one?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, because everything that looks.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Look like orb's on IR. I don't care what anybody,
even dust does. But there's a lot, there's a lot
that does happen there, and like these Another thing I
want to touch on. We're talking about Texas. There's a
lot of Native American history there. Oh yeah, so six
hundred people died at the Alamo, but there's who knows

(38:30):
how many people died on those grounds. You know, that
was like a fighty place. I don't know how it
was a fighty.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Place, you know, and many fights were held there.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Is that what is what he means?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Well?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And it's San Antonio. It's I'm pretty sure San Antonio
is a pretty old town. And you know, people were
gunning each other down in the streets back in the
day and stuff like that. So I think there's while
there's probably something to this being kind of sort of
like a hospital at one point. It wasn't really a hospital.
It was kind of like a hospital. They had specific
floors to do medical type. I think you could take

(39:05):
whatever number they think they know has died in that
area and like times of by.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Three, Yeah, I would, I would assume, so it being
ran as kind of a hospital, but definitely a morgue
and all the other things.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
But even long before all of this, like there were
the Native Americans and it was it was part of Mexico.
So a lot a lot of stuff has happened there. Yeah,
a lot of stuff that will like there's no records
for We're never gonna know. So the history part is
for sure there just because of where it is, and

(39:38):
I know people died, yeah, and if not for anything,
you know, we do have records of the Alamo and
lots of people. That was a big battle. That was
a big historic like American but quick, no, not well,
the Alamo was like a month? Oh was it? It
was the other one. Oh it's the other price it
was Sani Sinto you're thinking of, Okay, the album of

(40:01):
Battle was it wasn't even a month because it was
February twenty third to the beginning of March. It was
like the week and a half two weeks long, but
still six hundred people died. There was a big standoff.
But that's basically the story for you people swear by that.
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that
I've never heard of this place. I know it's so crazy,

(40:23):
But there's another hotel there that has a lot of
the same real that we're going to talk about. Yeah,
this isn't the only one. So apparently San Antonio is
pretty haunted. I like it supposedly allegedly allegedly haunted. Yeah,
so did you ever hear about you never heard about
this place? I mean you lived in Texas too, I've

(40:44):
never heard of this place. I can't wait till we
get to witch to off all stuff, because I saw
some cool stuff, so exciting. I got to pick which
one I want to do.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, and I live there.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, but some of those have some cool names. And no,
I'm not going to do the goat Man because it's lame.
The Witch He's supposed to come from there. The Witch's
Gate sounds cool or white san Sanatorium. Sanatorium is always
good story. I know, they're always really really good. But
we have to get to a certain point here and

(41:11):
I have to ask you a question. A question. We'll
let him do it. So when it comes to the
Emily Morgan Hotel in San Antonio, Texas part of the
Alamo Plaza, you have to you have to remember, do

(41:32):
you think it's real? I do, I really do.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think, if anything, not even the hotel itself. If
we just start with the land, just the land and
the amount of things that have happened here, I mean,
across everywhere is that way, but I think this is
that tenfold. I think just so many things have happened
here that it's just left to stain on the land.

(41:57):
And then add in to what this tell used to
be and there.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Was a more. I mean, there's just so many things.
I just absolutely yes, Okay, that's what about you. I'm
gonna give it the rare. I think there's something happening.
Oh there's the thing. The thing for me is is
that they have a lot of stories, but they have
a lot of people backing up their stories that go there.
So like if it was, like we've talked about places

(42:24):
in the past, I had both, but they'd never seem
to line up. It's always like different things around. This
one's not. This one's like, oh, this floor smells like
band aids, and then somebody else comes in it's like
it does smell like band aids. And then so you
know their stories, like you know, people get freaked out
and leave in the middle of the night, and then
their stories of people getting freaked out and leaving in
the middle of the night because they saw something. So

(42:45):
there's too many like things that occur together for me
not to say that something's definitely happening here. I think
something is going on. That's the Emily Morgan. So if
you know it, or you know if you stayed there,
let us know. If you have pictures or anything, send
them in. I'd like to see them.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It's kind of rare. We haven't like at least heard
of a place, let alone yea like seeing a video
on it.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Most places, most places, so much of this. There's a
lot of places that I don't know much about, but
I've at least heard the hurt. Yeah, absolutely, I've never
heard of this one. Never heard of it once. Love
that unless I saw something, I didn't realize it. I
don't know. It was a really good one. Maybe Ghost
Adventures went there. Who knows, maybe Zach molested a ghost there.
I don't know, but I know. We haven't put anything

(43:40):
out on YouTube either. We are not done with YouTube.
The camera thing is really the bane of my existence
at the moment. No matter what I do, I cannot
seem to make it look right, and it bothers me
putting it out like that. Also, the YouTube videos and
the podcast are now going to be separated. Yes, we're
going to do two totally different things. Uh to make
everybody happy, and if they're not happy, there's nothing else

(44:03):
I can do for you. I don't know. I don't
know what to tell you. Sorry, sorry, But we're going
to do whatever we want on YouTube. We're going to
watch stuff and we're going to react to it.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
We're going to talk about stuff pretty much, do whatever
we want.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, YouTube is going to be our little.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Paranormal podcast will be podcast, even though I fully enjoyed
I like the podcast that you put together, but notparently
some people.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Tell't Yeah, people can plain too much. So whatever, we're
just going to keep them separated. But uh so, Yeah,
just remember for the next month you can catch us
on live starting this Wednesday on YouTube yes, I don't

(44:45):
know exactly what Dave is. I don't know, but we're
recording this on Monday, so it's Wednesday. Yeah, okay, so
and uh so I'm trying to think, is there anything
where can they find us?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
They can find us on they book, That's what I
was gonna say. For the Booze Underscore podcast, and on
Instagram at for the Booze Undercore podcast.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, and on Twitter and YouTube and to talk everywhere. Yeah,
for the Booze or for the Booze Underscore podcast. And
I don't really post on social media that much. It's
not my forte. I need to get better at it,
but I suck at it.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
And you do you have any listener stories or show
suggestions that you'd like us to research and do an
episode on. You can head us up at for the
Booze twelve at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Indeed, yeah, indeed, I was waiting for you to do
the next part. What's the next part? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Maybe our Patreon from.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Oh yeah, Patreon dot com forward slash for the booz
Underscore podcast where we do extra stuff we do behind
the Booze. We do many episodes of this and you
can you know if you join the Patreon, you can
be like we like this or we don't like that,
and we will care more about what you say than

(46:04):
the people complaining over on all the other stuff. Patreon
is number one friends in our book. Well, yeah, and
there's over there. We have a solid group. Yes, who
has stuck with us because this look for like two
and a half years, everything went all right. It went right, like,
there was never scheduling problems, everything came out on time.

(46:26):
And this past year it has been a struggle a lot.
Well it's you know, it started, I had something happen
and then even I think even before that, like we've
just it's been hard to keep up. I don't know why.
So we're trying to get it all back. That's why
we're going to take a month off, you know from
the regular show, to get that way we don't have

(46:46):
to keep going through this anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
But you can catch us on YouTube a couple once
or twice, maybe a week, so look out for a
live from us. We'll during our month go on and.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, we just hang out. Who knows, maybe I'll have
something to read at some point. I don't know, but
it's just going to be mostly to hang out. Maybe
we'll watch videos or something. I don't know yet. Yeah,
I'm not sure. I don't even know how to do
it yet.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
And Ben Ben his story from the beginning. His second
story will be on Alive.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, Wednesday, on Wednesday. It'll be on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
But anyways, I think this is where we're going to
head out. We got stuff we got to go do,
so right, take us out, man.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well, thank you everybody so much for listening, and we'll
see you on the next one.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Bye. I guess you know, make sure you don't have
to pee too bad the middle of night, because you
can see that, Baks, you're going to push your pants
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