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Speaker 1 (00:08):
At the Gatherer Fort loam Mee.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Fort Laramie, starring Raymond Burr as Captain lee Quins, especially
transcribed tales of the dark and tragic ground of the
wild Frontier, the fighting men who rode the rim of Empire,
and the dramatic story of lee Quin's captain of cavalry.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now spikes on this side of the rail at all.
I'm out over there, mister Seyberts.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I haven't run into one and twenty yards, Captain. They
sure weren't taking any chances.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Worthy or telegraph pulls across the track, all the spikes
removed from the rails, and the track yanked off the roadbed.
I'd say they weren't taking much chance, mister Seyberts.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Do you think it was shy? Answer? Well, that's Cheyenne country.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Why'd they do it? The rail of train kill all
those innocent people?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh? Fear, That's why most men kill, But fear of
what the trainmen where?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I'm sure, but twenty of those dead back there are
women and children.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
The iron horse makes a lot of noise, mister Seyberts,
and puffs a lot of steam.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
If you saw it cutting through.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Your country, you might not stop to think it was
carrying women and children.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They must think it'll discourage folks from coming west on
the railroads.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
If I was standing in the Omaha station waiting to
board a train, it might discourage me.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Not you, Captain. Things don't seem to bother you. What things?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Twenty women and children dead? You didn't bat an eye.
It's a lot of death, all piled together.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Any death.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
There's a lot of death, mister Seyberts. You've seen more
than I have. Maybe you've gotten used to it. We
have a job of burying to do back there, sir.
I can't go back just yet.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Doesn't get any better waiting, nor any easier. People die
or they get killed. Either way, they got to be buried.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And the trains got to be set right on the
tracks where it belongs. And the track's got to be
laid again and spike so the next train will stand
a chance of getting through.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Captain, Would they have staid a better chance if the
army been riding with them?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Wouldn't that make it safer?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Mister Sibits, This train was derailed by Indians. It wasn't attacked.
Nobody was massacred.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
If half a troop was riding with them, we'd be
burying them.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I guess you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's just not easy, is it?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
What drew you to the army, mister Sibits. The uniform sergeant.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Of course, has the first car ride it, Sir, Yes,
I see he has.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Take good work, Sergeant.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
It's a might easier telling them how it's done.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
You.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Somebody has to do the telling. You got a car
back in the rails, didn't, Jim.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, this Saint Cavalry worked. We're all that's here goes?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
You think you got them all out before you set
that car right, there's no.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Way of telling that, Captain till we look and see.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
If it's all right with you, Sir, o'tboard that car
and say if we got all the dead, it's.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
All right with me.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Mister Simon, you need a hand, Lieutenant, I do all
call for it, Sergeant, Yes, sir, I guess there'll be
no way of telling when this happened, not from the bodies.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
They've been stiff as old hides ever since we come on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Six or eight. We're throwing clear, isn't it right? Clear?
Just as dead, but clear.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Get our amount, sergeant. We're gonna take a little ride, Yes, and.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
See if the telegrapher has got a reply yet from
Union Pacific.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, wait, need any help, mister Sabits, not a bet, sir.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
How many did you find? Three so far?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I'm leaving you in charge, mister Sabath. Sergeant Gorse and
I are going to take a little ride. If anyone
lived through this, they might have made it to one
of the settlers. How could anyone live through this?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't know. You want to come along and find out.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I got a job to do here, Captain.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's right, mister Sabits, you have.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
Well. I ain't had much time to look around. Good,
just rode up myself a bit before you did.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How many horses did you you have.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Mister eighteen, not counting when I was riding. I wonder
how come they left the house standing, burned everything else.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
They didn't mean to do your favor, I'm sure of that.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
I thought you army boys had them Cheyenne cooped up
in a.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Reservation, most of them, not all of them.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
That's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Not near good enough.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Nobody in the house, Captain.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
I could have told you that nobody heard all took
my woman down the crow creek near a week ago
now just come back.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You left your stock untended all week.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
I got laid up down there, grip too aching to
come back sooner. Besides, I spoke to Nate before I left.
He said he'd mind them for me. Who's nate neighbor
over the rise there, Nate catter farms, a little keep
stock like me. Said he'd mind them for me, and
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done for him.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Could be he run your horses over there to feed.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
No, this is Indian work, like that train you told
me about.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You used to trouble with the Gyanne.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
Yeah, ever since the railroad, it's peaceful enough for they
had to lay that track and send them steam engines
puffing across the land, scaring the stock, scaring Indians too.
They don't like him. Iron horses, they don't like them
at all.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Mister. We're burying near thirty dead. That says they don't
like him.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Yeah, well, I got work to do, thinking. I can't
help you none.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
We we got a camp back near the railroad. You're
welcome to come with us.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Leave my land, good lord man, that's all I got left. No,
I ain't believing.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The Cotter place just over the.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Rise, Yeah, two miles three. They're my neighbors, Nate and
his missus.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Nothing to chance here, Captain, nothing and no one that
be Nate Cotter. H it'll be a man on Nate
Cotter's place.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, yes, it's COTTERR.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Thought I'd get him time we find one like this.
Can't help wondering what they died of first, gorse.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It doesn't make much difference.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Doesn't, But I get the thought just the same. Well,
I look around for something to dig with, Captain. I
guess there's no need to look for his woman. They
carried her off.
Speaker 9 (09:19):
Sure, yeah, hold the gorse. Something else, Captain, Yeah, I
thought I heard something. I sure don't.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Listen over there where a clump of trees is.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Something? Maybe only the wind though? What I should come
with you?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
No, no, just keep a sharp eye.
Speaker 10 (09:50):
Some shooting.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Listen, come out in the clearing where I can see it.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
I sure hope you don't need to shoot.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, I don't name too, I'm obliged, sir. What's your name? Boy? Jed?
You belong here? Jed?
Speaker 11 (10:14):
You don't feel like it, it sure don't.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
How long you been here?
Speaker 11 (10:20):
Seems like a long time, mister, A long time.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
No cause to be afraid now, Jed it's over the
burning everything.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's all over, Yes, sir, I'll see it is.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Where is he from?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Captain?
Speaker 11 (10:33):
Just the trees, that's all. I ain't done nothing.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You better come back to camp with us, Jed, some
hot food or cot.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You'll feel a sight better.
Speaker 11 (10:42):
You're armed, folks, ain't you?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah? This is Sergeant Gors. I'm Captain Quint's hello. Boy.
My paw was a sergeant, was he?
Speaker 11 (10:54):
You got somebody laying dead over there? Captain?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
You you got a ma Jed, Sure, I got a mark.
You better come with us, boy, there's nothing for you here.
Speaker 11 (11:14):
Sure, ain't sure, ain't nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I just never seen a young one. Was such a fright, Captain.
You think he saw it all?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, he saw it all.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Sure would be a fright watching your park kill your
mark carried off that way.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You won't forget that soon, yours. He won't forget it ever.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
He eat like you was starving.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
It was hell sleep so.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Funny thing. You talk to him, Ask him questions and answers.
Ain't answers, it tall just words.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Send him back to me. I'll bet him down here, Yes, sir,
there's still no word from Union Pacific no more than
we had.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
They're sending another crew out, but no one says when
they'll get here.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
They hear anything at the telegraphers tent.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I want to know it right away, Yes, sir, I'll
get the boy.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm just comment for you, Jed.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Captain Quints want to see if I want to talk
to him.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Young fellow wants to hear him.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Captain. Come on in, Jed, let's sit down.
Speaker 11 (12:43):
Yes, sir, I thought maybe we could talk.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Sergeant just leave him, Sir, I like him.
Speaker 11 (12:54):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Five, this cavalry sergeant. I know Papaul was a sergeant. Yeah,
said that.
Speaker 11 (13:01):
I don't recollect it myself, but he told me lots
of times. He was a sergeant in the war. MA
says he never.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Got over it the war.
Speaker 11 (13:10):
No, Sir, being a sergeant, she meant bossy, like you know,
you'd give orders to her to me, horses everything.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Just the three of you. You you're mon, Pa.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
That's all my laiter at on as being a sergeant,
telling you what the toad, what the plant? How he
wanted things. Just so, I'm talking too.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Much, oh, Jed. It's good sometimes talking too much, Yes.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
Sir, Now, sergeant, of course, he don't seem so bossy
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You're not in the cavalry, Jed.
Speaker 11 (13:46):
I'm a hand with horses.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That's a start. You all alone, captain, How do you mean.
Speaker 11 (13:57):
You got nobody? Just you?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I ain't got nobody.
Speaker 11 (14:04):
And sergeant chorus, he's got nobody. It's a good life,
in't it for a man alone?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah? For man? Jed?
Speaker 11 (14:16):
You're going by my face, ain't you. I can't help
my face.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Nothing wrong with your face, Just it looks awful, young Jed.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
I can't help that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Now. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (14:26):
I'm big enough, strong enough.
Speaker 11 (14:29):
Some of the men when we was eating, I was
bigger than them.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
How old are you?
Speaker 11 (14:34):
Eighteen eighteen near nineteen actual?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh my boy?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
That old it of recollect when his power was a
sergeant in the war.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
I can't help what I recollect like I can't help
my face. You going by my face?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
That's all.
Speaker 11 (14:50):
I want to be in the army, captain, most particular,
I want to be a cavalry trooper.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Well, you better get some sleep first.
Speaker 11 (14:58):
Don't set me by that way.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Care.
Speaker 11 (15:01):
I can't give you no proof about me being as
old as I am. It was in the Bible with
all the rest them as didn't live in me. My
rid it their self.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Now.
Speaker 11 (15:12):
You know I can't show you that bible, Captain.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Easy, Jed, Easy, I know you can't.
Speaker 11 (15:19):
It's what's inside makes the man. My past said that,
and I know it's true.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Message from the telegraphers, Captain.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
M dagg it, Sergeant, you're sending laborers and our replacements
down from Fort Laramie as soon as we were relieved.
Our orders are on the return to the fort. Yes,
that might be sundown tomorrow, so pass the word.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yes, sir, you'll take me along.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
Captain, you wouldn't want to leave me for the Engines, Jed.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'd say a lot depended on how soon you stretch
out there and go to sleep.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
I'm almost asleep now, Captain.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
We just had some idea of how many Cheyenne we're
up against.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
A few of them could have done it all.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Doesn't take many to derail a train, pull the spikes
out of track. A few good riders can run horses
off a ranch, fire another kill a settler carry off
a woman. You think it's a small band, then I
didn't see a single chyanne?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Major. What did the scouts say?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
There's a last report, no sign of camps, no Chyanne activity.
Sent Pete Hayesen out yesterday morning.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
There's still shying in the west. People'll find him.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
When he does, we'd have to engage them, Captain.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
When he does, we will.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
That rail line has to stay open. Shipments of army
supplies have already left the east. It's a matter of
days till those trains crossed the same spot where this
last one was derailed.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Any people on these trains major you mean troops, I
mean any kind of people. We left nearly thirty graves
by that road bed. It's a little fresh in my mind.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You think I don't know that. I just know I
know it. That's enough for me.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
We couldn't have stopped this last disaster Lee. There's no way.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
There's one way we could have been there in time.
What kind of scouts we got between here and Cheyenne.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Poor ones?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
You know we can get some good scouts.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Get some squaws off the reservation. You couldn't do worse.
Al Rightly, that's enough. Were the best scouts in the world.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
The Army's not big enough to patrol every inch of
rail line of the coast.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Remember when they were laying this track.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I was on General August Staff the thirtieth Infantry, part
of the fourth part of the thirty sixth four Companies
of Cavalry, four companies of Pawnee Scouts, just to protect
the grating and working party, and General Dodge was chief
engineer of the road. I know that doesn't change a thing.
I see it doesn't. That's all same, that's all Kevin, Oh,
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captain is here? Lieutenant Cybritch tells me you brought back
a boy orphan.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
From one of the ranchers. That's Red Major.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
What do you think of him? He's young, scared. Cybris
thinks you make a good trooper, does he? I'm asking
what you think, Lee? I turned him over the sergeant gorse.
There's any trooper in him? He'll bring it up, Yes,
yes he will, that's all. Kevin dismissed.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Yes, you come closer, Captain, to get a real life for.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Jed's a good shot.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Is he haven't fooled him yet? Started him on side arms,
worked up through springfield. Spencer's with a Henry rifle. He
just might stand off sitting bolting the whole crowd. He's
hiring himself about horses.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
How is he there?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Horses and nos cavalry, saddles or something else.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Again.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Well, he's bright enough, Jed is, he'll master saddling and unsettled.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's a boy, Gorse, He's just a boy, White Cleans.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
He's near nineteen.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He's a boy, you know he is.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It's hard to tell what's boy and what's the shock
of what he's been through.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Oh that's the fact, Gorse. You'll get him a uniform issue,
not me, Captain Lieutenant Cyberts.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You didn't know, of course, I didn't know what Captain
Quinn's he was swore in this morning, that Jed's in
the army.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Now rendezvous point.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Ahead, Captain ride, mister Saberts.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Just to quiet ride so far, sir.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
If capt Maid's infantry, as captain, old woman Greek, we'll
be able to attack the night.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Is that your plan, mister Seberts.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Well, not my plan, sir.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I thought we could surprise them, and if we could,
it would be good, that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
If we can surprise them, it'd be good. Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
You know this country, mister Seyberts, not this part of it, sir.
Make out those foothills just ahead, yes, sir, full of
rocks and crags.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Maybe Cheyenne. Those hills are between us and me to infantry.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
But the scouts report puts the Cheyenne on the other
side of All Woman Creek. But what I mean is
they're not supposed to be in those foothills.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I hope the Cheyenne know that, mister Seyberts.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, sir, one thing, Captain, this will be a good
experience for our young trooper. You mean Jed his first
go at Indian fighting, learned a lot, but he's awful green.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yet you know an experienced.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I know about inexperienced Jed something else, mister Seberts, He's.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
A boy, just a boy.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Chyan ahead, Captain, breaking out of their porthills and making
straight for us, left, running.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
The line, running away at the gall left together.
Speaker 10 (22:17):
I meant to kill us. I meant to kill us all.
I don't like it here. I want to get out.
Once you consider around these rocks.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You wanter man, you're a rifle and shut up trouble.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
I ain't gonna take that up again. I ain't shooting.
They ain't gonna get shot at, not anymore.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
It ain't right.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You're all right, Jad, Just keep quiet, You're all right.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
They're staring around all around. That's quiet enough. I ain't
keeping quiet. I'm talking so I can hear I'm still alive.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I said, shut up, trouble.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
You go right ahead and kill me your water. But
I gotta talk, can't you see? All I got is talk.
I gotta hear I'm still.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Alive, or shut up, Captain Quinch.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
I want to go home, Kevin, please, I want to
go home.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yes, I I know.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I'm sorry, cat Man your gun, mister Seyberts.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
She's here, right here in the hospital. Mama.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, other couple of doors.
Speaker 11 (23:25):
Jed, But I thought, I mean, I don't rightly know
how she got here.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Captain Well. A couple of Cheyenne braves brought her, thinking
to collect a reward.
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Juranes had my mom.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Oh, she'll be all right, No cause to worry you.
You want me to go in first, Jed, or you'd
rather go in alone?
Speaker 11 (23:54):
You first?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Captain?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
You awake, ma'am, h missus Gotter, I'm awake. Jed's right outside, ma'am. Jed,
your son, Missus Gotter.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I've got no son. Me and the mister we was alone.
I got no son.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
I'm sorry, ma'am, truly, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Fine looking boy, though which she was mine. We could
have used the son me and the mister. I was wrong.
I mention no harm, no hurt, ma'am no hurt, left
and made Captain.
Speaker 11 (24:59):
Boy yes' you got no ma your own yes' I
got a mar got a part too much obliged for
your asking them. You never asked me, Captain. You never
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come right out and asked. I was scared when you
found me. You thought like I belonged there, and I'll
let you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Where do you belong Illinois?
Speaker 11 (25:34):
I ran away, worked a spell from my keep along
the way till I got to Omaha. Then I got
on that train, the one you found with all them dead.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Jed, I I don't believe you. Anything you say goes
down right hard.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
It was night when we hit. I was thrown clean
out of that train, Captain. I think I must lit running.
I never stopped till where you found me. I didn't lie, Captain.
You just took for granted.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Your Paul was a sergeant.
Speaker 11 (26:14):
Don't you know who He was, ordering mand me around,
telling us what the toad, how to plan, how to
do everything?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Just so.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
He told you something else, Jed, Yes, sir, it's what's
inside makes a man.
Speaker 11 (26:33):
Why Paul said that, And I know it's true.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You better go home, boy.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
I mean to yes, Sir, I mean to do that
right away. I'm obliged, Captain most particular, I want to
be a cavalry trooper.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You come back and say, five years Jed, when I
made teen atcha, it will be waiting for you.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Fort Laramie is produced and directed by Norman McDonnell and
stars Raymond Burr as lee Quin's Captain of Cavalry, with
Vic Perrin as Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially written
for Fort Laramie by Kathleen Hit, with sound patterns by
Bill James and Ray Kemper musical supervision by Amerigo Marino.
Featured in the cast were Jack Moyles and Harry Bartel,
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with Jeffrey Silver, Frank Katy and Eve mc veigh.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Company Tencent.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Dismiss Next week, another transcribed story of the Northwest Frontier
and the troopers who fought under lee Quinn's captain of Cavalry.
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Speaker 2 (28:57):
The United States savings bonds the bonds that pay a
guaranteed three percent interest when held to maturity. The bonds
that always pay off.