December 9, 2021 • 31 mins
Original Air Date: September 09, 1956
Host: Andrew Rhynes
Show: Fort Laramie
Phone: (707) 98 OTRDW (6-8739)
Stars:
• Raymond Burr (Captain Lee Quince)
• Vic Perrin (Sgt. Goerss)
• Jack Moyles (Major Daggett)
• Harry Bartel (Lt. Siberts)
Special Guest:
• James Nusser
• Barney Phillips
Writers:
• Kathleen Hite
Producer:
• Norman Macdonnell
Music:
• Amerigo Moreno
Exit music from: Roundup on the Prairie by Aaron Kenny https://bit.ly/3kTj0kK
Host: Andrew Rhynes
Show: Fort Laramie
Phone: (707) 98 OTRDW (6-8739)
Stars:
• Raymond Burr (Captain Lee Quince)
• Vic Perrin (Sgt. Goerss)
• Jack Moyles (Major Daggett)
• Harry Bartel (Lt. Siberts)
Special Guest:
• James Nusser
• Barney Phillips
Writers:
• Kathleen Hite
Producer:
• Norman Macdonnell
Music:
• Amerigo Moreno
Exit music from: Roundup on the Prairie by Aaron Kenny https://bit.ly/3kTj0kK
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M. Welcome to the old timeradio Westerns. I'm your host Andrew Ryans,
and let's get into this episode.This episode is gonna be four larmie.
Original ardate is September ninth, nineteenfifty six, and the title is
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The Buffalo Hunters. Thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoy the port
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Laramie. Port Laramie, starring RaymondByrd as Captain lee Quince, especially transcribe
tales of the dark and tragic groundof the wild Frontier, the saga of
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fighting men who rode the rim ofEmpire, and the dramatic story of lee
Quince, Captain of Cavalry Sergeant.This one's fresh killed and fresh skin,
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Sir, how many buffalo we foundthis way? We come on ten with
this one. The men are fanningout looking for more. They wouldn't be
far away if there are more.They're right dumb, aren't they, Captain,
Buffalo must be the dumbest critters theyis. Well, I couldn't call
them crafty, but they're half blind. Can't see trouble when they're heading right
into it. Little tenant cyberts backfrom the agency yet, well, yes,
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or he brought the wagon there loadingcarcasses in it back by the waller.
They better get a move on themeatle cooking this heat. Captain,
you got the feeling there's something wrongwrong. Why seen engines kill buffalo before,
lots of them, But I've neverseen them leave this much meat on
them. Maybe agency life is makingthem lazy, gorse, Maybe their bellies
are too full. Now you don'tthink that, captain, are sure?
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Don't. I'm going to talk tomister sibbitts. Oh are all of them
cut this way? I think so? I didn't rightly study him though,
Then study him all of them.Let me know what you find. Yes,
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have any trouble getting in the wagon, mister Sibberts, Oh? Oh,
no, sir, the agency gladto know we were bringing me in.
That seemed odd to you. Well, no, sir, I never
saw an Indian agency that couldn't usefood, now, did it? I
excuse me, sir? All right, man, you can mold the wagon.
I'll pick up the rest of thecarcasses just a minute, Yes,
sir, I'm gonna take a lookat these. Hold in a minute.
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M M all right, man,carry on? Yeah, a lot of
waste there, sir, Yeah,yeah, a lot of waste. I'm
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about of the agency, about fivemiles. I tried, you went there,
you got the wagon from the agent. He said, they'd be glad
to get the meat, that all, he said, mister Sibberts, I
think so, sir. Oh onething he said when we first rode up,
he asked us if we'd been engageda battle. Said that early this
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morning he heard a lot of gunfire. Yeah, but they did, yes,
Sergeant. I studied them carcasses,all of them, Like you said.
They're all cut the same way,skin with the hump ribs cut away.
And that's all the men locate anymore, No, sir, just the
ten. According to mister Saberts,the Indian agent claims he heard a lot
of gunfire this morning. It wasa clear morning. The sounded carry all
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right. You saw the wagon tracks, Captain, Yeah, I saw him
tell the man to get a moveon with our loading. Sergeant. Former
detailed to haul of carcasses to theagency. Yes, well, rondezvous at
the fork of the Rawhide and proceedback to Fort Laramie, Yes, sir.
Captain quints, what about the wagontracks? You see these tracks here,
the fresh ones from the wagon thatwas just here. That's right over
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here there. You see those,yeah, sir, they're not as fresh,
but you can sure see them.Our wagon wasn't over here, Captain.
And and it wasn't down there wherethey're loading now, or over yonder
where the last carcasses were found.Well, that's right, sir. But
Indians don't humpt buffalo with wagons,mister Cyberts. And when they kill buffalo
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with guns or arrows, they don'tjust skin them, cut the hump ribs
free, and leave the rest torot in the prairie from its horns to
its chips. Indians use all thebuffalo. You think white men did this,
Captain, I'm thinking white men.And if buffalo hunters are moving up
to the high plains, we gottrouble, mister Cyberts. That's reservation land,
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cap'n. That didn't make much matterto them. Majum. You seem
very sure this is the work ofbuffalo hunters, not Indians. If it's
Indians, they've changed their whole traditionof hunting buffalo and killing them. I
tell you, these were fresh killedand the only meat gone was the hump
ribs. Well, that's the bestmeat for you and me. Yeah,
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but the Indians eat everything in thebuffalo, including I know what they don't
eat on the spot they take withthem, even the horns. I always
use the horns for tools implements,don't they always. I still hope you're
wrongly, It's a small hope,but it's there. I'd like to be
dead wrong. But I saw toomuch and the Indian agent heard too much
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the battle. Remember Texas, youget a clear morning, you could hear
those buffalo guns roaring for miles.Enough of them sound like a pitch battle.
I wonder if they're still packing thoseold Sharp's fifties. They're awful heavy,
you gotta be. They shootout slugsone hundred and twenty five grains of
powder, six hundred grains of thelead, sometimes more. The army strug
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us along with four hundred and fiftygrains slugs. We're not killing buffalo,
No, we're not. You knowthe position the army's in as well as
I do. White men aren't allowedon reservations to hunt, to mine,
to anything. We can warn himif we see him before they move into
Indian territory. If we catch himthere, we can run him off or
bring him back to the guardhouse.But we got to see him first.
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We may not see him major untilit's too late. We may not ever
see him, and then the armywill be in another position. What other
position? Fighting a war? Don'tgo roaming off? Now go here.
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I want the wagon here so wecan load it. Awful hot, you're
sitting here? Will you sit here? I hear, hey, soldier,
let's hear the sutlers storm. That'sit, mister much blind? Well now
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you got yourself some knife there,ain't you chap of your eye? Soldier?
Straight blade? This isn't it?Godam curved too? They're nice?
You like curve knives better? Doyou? I like what I need Sometimes
I need a straight blade, timesI need them. Curb. What kind
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of man's got to need for knife? Straight blade or curve? You golden
me, soldier. I'd be afool to go to man sharpening a fine
knife. Yeah you would if youa plain fool, fine edge coming,
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fine edge. It's your business cuttingthings. Let me show you that curve
blade, soldier. I look atthat. That's pretty the way at half
circles. You think it's pretty ifit's your next soldier? Right close neat
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like. That's what I call prettyhid. Pretty enough looks dull to me.
It gets dubed cutting. Before Icut a man throaked with it,
i'd see it was razors sharp.I will. I'll tend to that right
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now, but i'll keep that straightblade handed case i'll run into a soldier
wants a good about it. Iknew a man like you once looked the
same, acted the same, talksto saying he was from Texas. This
man on a lot of good manfrom Texas. This man he was a
skinner. A lot of good manis skinners. This man, though he
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got his self killed. How wasa man gonna get a self killed skinning
buffalo? He made the mistake.This Texas man going into Injurine territory,
went up into the Injun nation,got his self killed. You don't know
nothing about skinning. I heard aboutthis man. You're dumb, soldier,
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dumbs can be. I ain't dumbenough to skin buffalo in Injun country.
I make fifty dollars a month inmy keep. With that, I get
fifty cents. They hit on everybuffalo I skin. You do it fast,
mister, That's why I do itthe more money. I mean,
I'd sure admire to see you atyour work. Yeah, you wouldn't.
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I would. I never seen areal good skinner at work. You mean
you wanted to please about it?You could tell him how you said about
your work. You're thinking about turningthe skinner. Oh, I don't think
I got the gift for it.Of course I'm a willing hand and all
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that. Oh are you on thinkingI'm not too good to tell the truth?
You might make a skinner? Thatthe thinking part? What's done it?
That's a hundred job old Jake Cuppythat he's got to find her,
dude, the shooting Jake Cuppy,the Sutlers, he's buying lead. Now
on Potter, you've got a lineon a big hood. Where what do
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I can't he heard soldier. He'llget me there and do the killing.
All I gotta do a tree,last room and skin him. You was
gonna tell me how you manage that? You see you work with a good
hunter. That comes first, Oh, j Cuppy, he's good. He
shoots him renting the lights, lights, the lights, the lungs, And
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here I thought a good hunter takehim on his heart the hot No,
you hit one the hot, evensquare the hot. He's gonna run all
over hunting before he dies, chargingaround, pawing the earth, carrying on.
I don't need a skinner wasting itselfmoving all over. And I can
see that you hit one of thelight soldier. You may take a step
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or two, you but no moreon that. He dropped right on the
spot. You know how I mean, skinner, don't go to first one
spot then another. He don't wasteitself. I understand gift you talk about
it. I gotta for fare.I come on him. At first,
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I've written down the belly from thethroat of the tail with a straight blade.
Morn might lee, I h ThenI cut down each his legs,
go round his head, clean upto his ears. Listen here I figured
the curved blade there now myself,I don't bother with the rest of the
head. I right away said toroll the skin there. It's first started.
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Then I draw a rupe tight downthe little flap of his neck that's
free. See uh huh. AndI'll make the other men fast to the
team and and I kick them up. Then pulling that away, shut that
high right off in that animal.That's a size, said I'll tell you
that's a sight. I just betit is fifty cents every time I do
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it. I skimmed as high asfifty buffalo a day. Now that amounts
there. WHOA what old Jake Cuppyusually does that cupping up for me?
All right? I guess you thinka lot of mister Cuppy. What I
gotta think of him? I likeskin and soldier, That's what I like
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you putting up here at Fort Laramiespow night anyway, and a longer.
What do you care? As longas you're here, I just want to
learn all I can from you.That so good life, A lot of
good men of skinness. Your name, Jake Cuppy, mister, h your
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name, it's Jake Cuppy. Youwant to steal up on a man it
is eating captain and make him edgy? I make you edgy, mister.
I'm getting over it. Shit downlong year. Oh yeah, I'll move
my rifles side. Got your eyeon it too. I've seen big fifties
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before, I declared opens a man'seyes. Stopping off at the armored post
first and tell me I'm welcome toput up with the enlisted men here,
and then the only ones that comepoking around officers. That's up. How
come you know about big fifties?Lieutenant claimed you never seen one before,
Missus Hibbitts never saw a buffalo hunterbefore. He's seen one. Now,
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where do you find him? Likehim? So full of book learning,
we find all kinds, mister,will you found one there? Now?
He's up on all the law inthese parts. I'm not talking about your
army law. I'm talking territory law. I think that's how you said it,
something about there's a timy year.You can't shoot to what lieutenant calls
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wildlife. There's a law about hunting. First Territorial Assembly passed it. It's
called wildlife conservation. Well, Ideclare, yeah, I thought the army
was a shooting outfit. It is, mister. Now, I'm gonna tell
you what I told the lieutenant.You're gonna make laws out here. You
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make them about the Engines, butyou leave a white man to his words.
Yeah, must be you've shot upall the herds on the South Plains,
or I wouldn't take all the creditfor that. Others got to do
coming. I'm not at your captain, seem way, you're not at me.
You spoke your piece. You're wrong, missed him. That's another thing.
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I'm almost never wrong. There's treatylaw that says you can't go into
Indian territory. That means all theland north of Fort Laramie. I'm getting
to might word about the army.Ain't they doing any killing? No more.
We're obliged to warn you. Ifyou do go in. We can't
protect you. I just don't recollectasking for any protection. You are to
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come along, Captain. There's Hunting'sfor real sporting, man. I saw
some of your slaughter the other day. That's real sporting. Now you hear
me what I say. I getpaid on how many buffalo hides I ship.
That's fine. Then folks in theEast are developing a taste for buffalo
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meat. All I gotta do isget it to the railroad, and that's
fine. I get paid for thattoo. I'd hate to have to fight
a war on your account, mister. Maybe I'd be on your side.
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I'm good at shooting. I'll tellyou what you figure price on engine hides
engine meat. Maybe I will beon your side. Captain. This is
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kid Carson country in the Captain,along the Potter River, he was up
here, sure, all along thebottoms of the powder it was black with
buffalo. Then, well, thebig herds is still up this way.
I don't think the Indians think sothat's good enough for me and for Jake
Cuppy. Apparently you take men likeKit Carson. Now he was a trapper,
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a hunter, but you hear goodthings about him. The Indians like
him. You're not comparing Carson toCuppy, are you, mister Cybert.
No, Sarah, I'm trying tofigure out the difference. Both seem to
be after the same things seem tobe. Maybe the early trappers, hunters,
the mountain men, they learned alot from the Indians, made friends
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with him, like you say,but more they came to hunt like Indians
hunter. You mean, they hotit as they had need more that they
knew what conservation meant even then thatif you kill more than the herd can
very young, you'll run out ofquarry man like Cuppy now, he likes
a slaughter. I hope we findhim, Captain. I hope we find
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him in time, mister Cyberts.The wagon tracks were following Captain. You
know what a bottom it looks likethey stopped just ahead, sir, right
at that line of trees. Butdraw, Oh they could be in there,
Captain, couple in golf, theycould, mister Shabberts, Come on,
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Gors, Yes, largeant Gorris andI are gonna move flat into the
trees, mister saberts. How thepatrols stand to covers. One shot out
of those trees and you move inliken alright, sergeant running crops down for
the brush. And we moved flatin the bellies. Yes, let's go
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the high big wagons like goofy head. They moved through here better, and
we do kept them. I can'tsee coupy him making the camp here.
I can't see him coming in hereover the army's warning. Mhm, just
about to the trees, Gorse.I don't straight until we're in him.
Yes, all right, now they'renot as thick as they look, Captain.
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Huh head there, Gors for wagon? What's goofies wagon? All right?
Some hides here in the bed andhis team's gone. Let'st be thinking
to drag the hides back here fromhow far away? I wonder? I
don't know. I'm trying to figurehim, Captain. I can see they
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might hide the wagon so as wecouldn't follow its tracks, But we can
track horses. Who's just as well. Not this way, gors m H.
Green Sacks. We'll sure. Yeah. He fixed Green's acts to their
hoofs. It muffles the sound leavesalmost no hoofprints. They're smarter than they
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act, Captain, are they gores? H buffalo guns? That's one sound
they can't muffle. Come Onshargent.We've read in five miles at least,
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Captain, and no sound of godus for the last three. Don't need
sound with a sign like that,ahead, mister Hybrids. A brown haze
like dust. It is dust,means a big herd probably been stampeded.
There's bttom land just after that risewhere where crick feeds into the powder.
We'll make for that, yes,sir at the gallop, Oh true,
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Oh right out with me, misterSabbats, yessird, Captain. Look I'm
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looking, mister Sabbaths. He saidit was a big herd, but it's
like a massacre. Must be athousand buffalo. It is a massacre.
That much killing of anything without cause, it is a massacre. Well,
Jake Cuppy, he couldn't have shothim all he could shoot enough with Golfhie
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helping. Likely the rest were stampededto death and slaughter, that's all you
can call it that. I don'tsee how it could happen so much of
it. Buffalo don't have much eyesight, you kin't. I'm smelling signs of
danger. Cuppi's trick is to shootfrom far enough away so they can't smell
him. We better, we bettergo down there, mister sabbats copy would
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would he cause all this and thenhide out? Captain? He might,
knowing we'd becoming after him. Noone here and Golf he couldn't hope to
haul him all out before we gothere. Is seeing any that's been skinned?
Nos? Or not a one overhere? I don't know. That
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explains a lot of things. Icome on their horses first, down further.
They're shotful airs too. Both ofthem are still warm, Captain.
They haven't been dead long. Thousanddead Buffalo, two dead men. That's
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a lot of death, a lotof weight. The engines must still be
around, Captain. Yeah, it'dstill be around up in the hills.
Likely those arrows, sir, they'rein Cuppy and Golf and the horses,
but not the buffalo. The Indiansweren't after buffalo. Mister Sabbats, come
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on, let's move out, Captain. We'll have to fight the Indians for
this, not today, not thispatrol. But this isn't the last of
the buffalo hunters. Moral come allthe time, and we'll fight wars over
it. We've got to just leavethings this way. Sooner we go,
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mister Sabbats, the sooner the Indianswill move down and get to meet the
hides. Sometimes all a man cando is turn walk away. Fort Laramie
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is produced and directed by Norman McDonnelland stars Raymond Burr as Lee Quinns,
Captain of Cavalry, with Vic Perrinas Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially
written for Fort Laramie by Kathleen Hight, with son patterns by Bill James and
Ray Kemper. Musical supervision by AmerigoMarino featured in the cast where James Nusser
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and Barney Phillips. Jack Moyles isMajor Daggett and Harry Bartel is Lieutenant Seiberts.
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M. Welcome to the old timeradio Westerns. I'm your host Andrew Ryans,
and let's get into this episode.This episode is gonna be four larmie.
Original ardate is September ninth, nineteenfifty six, and the title is
(00:24):
The Buffalo Hunters. Thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoy the port
(01:03):
Laramie. Port Laramie, starring RaymondByrd as Captain lee Quince, especially transcribe
tales of the dark and tragic groundof the wild Frontier, the saga of
(01:27):
fighting men who rode the rim ofEmpire, and the dramatic story of lee
Quince, Captain of Cavalry Sergeant.This one's fresh killed and fresh skin,
(01:57):
Sir, how many buffalo we foundthis way? We come on ten with
this one. The men are fanningout looking for more. They wouldn't be
far away if there are more.They're right dumb, aren't they, Captain,
Buffalo must be the dumbest critters theyis. Well, I couldn't call
them crafty, but they're half blind. Can't see trouble when they're heading right
into it. Little tenant cyberts backfrom the agency yet, well, yes,
(02:20):
or he brought the wagon there loadingcarcasses in it back by the waller.
They better get a move on themeatle cooking this heat. Captain,
you got the feeling there's something wrongwrong. Why seen engines kill buffalo before,
lots of them, But I've neverseen them leave this much meat on
them. Maybe agency life is makingthem lazy, gorse, Maybe their bellies
are too full. Now you don'tthink that, captain, are sure?
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Don't. I'm going to talk tomister sibbitts. Oh are all of them
cut this way? I think so? I didn't rightly study him though,
Then study him all of them.Let me know what you find. Yes,
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have any trouble getting in the wagon, mister Sibberts, Oh? Oh,
no, sir, the agency gladto know we were bringing me in.
That seemed odd to you. Well, no, sir, I never
saw an Indian agency that couldn't usefood, now, did it? I
excuse me, sir? All right, man, you can mold the wagon.
I'll pick up the rest of thecarcasses just a minute, Yes,
sir, I'm gonna take a lookat these. Hold in a minute.
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M M all right, man,carry on? Yeah, a lot of
waste there, sir, Yeah,yeah, a lot of waste. I'm
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about of the agency, about fivemiles. I tried, you went there,
you got the wagon from the agent. He said, they'd be glad
to get the meat, that all, he said, mister Sibberts, I
think so, sir. Oh onething he said when we first rode up,
he asked us if we'd been engageda battle. Said that early this
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morning he heard a lot of gunfire. Yeah, but they did, yes,
Sergeant. I studied them carcasses,all of them, Like you said.
They're all cut the same way,skin with the hump ribs cut away.
And that's all the men locate anymore, No, sir, just the
ten. According to mister Saberts,the Indian agent claims he heard a lot
of gunfire this morning. It wasa clear morning. The sounded carry all
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right. You saw the wagon tracks, Captain, Yeah, I saw him
tell the man to get a moveon with our loading. Sergeant. Former
detailed to haul of carcasses to theagency. Yes, well, rondezvous at
the fork of the Rawhide and proceedback to Fort Laramie, Yes, sir.
Captain quints, what about the wagontracks? You see these tracks here,
the fresh ones from the wagon thatwas just here. That's right over
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here there. You see those,yeah, sir, they're not as fresh,
but you can sure see them.Our wagon wasn't over here, Captain.
And and it wasn't down there wherethey're loading now, or over yonder
where the last carcasses were found.Well, that's right, sir. But
Indians don't humpt buffalo with wagons,mister Cyberts. And when they kill buffalo
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with guns or arrows, they don'tjust skin them, cut the hump ribs
free, and leave the rest torot in the prairie from its horns to
its chips. Indians use all thebuffalo. You think white men did this,
Captain, I'm thinking white men.And if buffalo hunters are moving up
to the high plains, we gottrouble, mister Cyberts. That's reservation land,
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cap'n. That didn't make much matterto them. Majum. You seem
very sure this is the work ofbuffalo hunters, not Indians. If it's
Indians, they've changed their whole traditionof hunting buffalo and killing them. I
tell you, these were fresh killedand the only meat gone was the hump
ribs. Well, that's the bestmeat for you and me. Yeah,
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but the Indians eat everything in thebuffalo, including I know what they don't
eat on the spot they take withthem, even the horns. I always
use the horns for tools implements,don't they always. I still hope you're
wrongly, It's a small hope,but it's there. I'd like to be
dead wrong. But I saw toomuch and the Indian agent heard too much
(06:46):
the battle. Remember Texas, youget a clear morning, you could hear
those buffalo guns roaring for miles.Enough of them sound like a pitch battle.
I wonder if they're still packing thoseold Sharp's fifties. They're awful heavy,
you gotta be. They shootout slugsone hundred and twenty five grains of
powder, six hundred grains of thelead, sometimes more. The army strug
(07:09):
us along with four hundred and fiftygrains slugs. We're not killing buffalo,
No, we're not. You knowthe position the army's in as well as
I do. White men aren't allowedon reservations to hunt, to mine,
to anything. We can warn himif we see him before they move into
Indian territory. If we catch himthere, we can run him off or
bring him back to the guardhouse.But we got to see him first.
(07:30):
We may not see him major untilit's too late. We may not ever
see him, and then the armywill be in another position. What other
position? Fighting a war? Don'tgo roaming off? Now go here.
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I want the wagon here so wecan load it. Awful hot, you're
sitting here? Will you sit here? I hear, hey, soldier,
let's hear the sutlers storm. That'sit, mister much blind? Well now
(08:41):
you got yourself some knife there,ain't you chap of your eye? Soldier?
Straight blade? This isn't it?Godam curved too? They're nice?
You like curve knives better? Doyou? I like what I need Sometimes
I need a straight blade, timesI need them. Curb. What kind
(09:01):
of man's got to need for knife? Straight blade or curve? You golden
me, soldier. I'd be afool to go to man sharpening a fine
knife. Yeah you would if youa plain fool, fine edge coming,
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fine edge. It's your business cuttingthings. Let me show you that curve
blade, soldier. I look atthat. That's pretty the way at half
circles. You think it's pretty ifit's your next soldier? Right close neat
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like. That's what I call prettyhid. Pretty enough looks dull to me.
It gets dubed cutting. Before Icut a man throaked with it,
i'd see it was razors sharp.I will. I'll tend to that right
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now, but i'll keep that straightblade handed case i'll run into a soldier
wants a good about it. Iknew a man like you once looked the
same, acted the same, talksto saying he was from Texas. This
man on a lot of good manfrom Texas. This man he was a
skinner. A lot of good manis skinners. This man, though he
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got his self killed. How wasa man gonna get a self killed skinning
buffalo? He made the mistake.This Texas man going into Injurine territory,
went up into the Injun nation,got his self killed. You don't know
nothing about skinning. I heard aboutthis man. You're dumb, soldier,
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dumbs can be. I ain't dumbenough to skin buffalo in Injun country.
I make fifty dollars a month inmy keep. With that, I get
fifty cents. They hit on everybuffalo I skin. You do it fast,
mister, That's why I do itthe more money. I mean,
I'd sure admire to see you atyour work. Yeah, you wouldn't.
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I would. I never seen areal good skinner at work. You mean
you wanted to please about it?You could tell him how you said about
your work. You're thinking about turningthe skinner. Oh, I don't think
I got the gift for it.Of course I'm a willing hand and all
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that. Oh are you on thinkingI'm not too good to tell the truth?
You might make a skinner? Thatthe thinking part? What's done it?
That's a hundred job old Jake Cuppythat he's got to find her,
dude, the shooting Jake Cuppy,the Sutlers, he's buying lead. Now
on Potter, you've got a lineon a big hood. Where what do
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I can't he heard soldier. He'llget me there and do the killing.
All I gotta do a tree,last room and skin him. You was
gonna tell me how you manage that? You see you work with a good
hunter. That comes first, Oh, j Cuppy, he's good. He
shoots him renting the lights, lights, the lights, the lungs, And
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here I thought a good hunter takehim on his heart the hot No,
you hit one the hot, evensquare the hot. He's gonna run all
over hunting before he dies, chargingaround, pawing the earth, carrying on.
I don't need a skinner wasting itselfmoving all over. And I can
see that you hit one of thelight soldier. You may take a step
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or two, you but no moreon that. He dropped right on the
spot. You know how I mean, skinner, don't go to first one
spot then another. He don't wasteitself. I understand gift you talk about
it. I gotta for fare.I come on him. At first,
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I've written down the belly from thethroat of the tail with a straight blade.
Morn might lee, I h ThenI cut down each his legs,
go round his head, clean upto his ears. Listen here I figured
the curved blade there now myself,I don't bother with the rest of the
head. I right away said toroll the skin there. It's first started.
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Then I draw a rupe tight downthe little flap of his neck that's
free. See uh huh. AndI'll make the other men fast to the
team and and I kick them up. Then pulling that away, shut that
high right off in that animal.That's a size, said I'll tell you
that's a sight. I just betit is fifty cents every time I do
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it. I skimmed as high asfifty buffalo a day. Now that amounts
there. WHOA what old Jake Cuppyusually does that cupping up for me?
All right? I guess you thinka lot of mister Cuppy. What I
gotta think of him? I likeskin and soldier, That's what I like
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you putting up here at Fort Laramiespow night anyway, and a longer.
What do you care? As longas you're here, I just want to
learn all I can from you.That so good life, A lot of
good men of skinness. Your name, Jake Cuppy, mister, h your
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name, it's Jake Cuppy. Youwant to steal up on a man it
is eating captain and make him edgy? I make you edgy, mister.
I'm getting over it. Shit downlong year. Oh yeah, I'll move
my rifles side. Got your eyeon it too. I've seen big fifties
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before, I declared opens a man'seyes. Stopping off at the armored post
first and tell me I'm welcome toput up with the enlisted men here,
and then the only ones that comepoking around officers. That's up. How
come you know about big fifties?Lieutenant claimed you never seen one before,
Missus Hibbitts never saw a buffalo hunterbefore. He's seen one. Now,
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where do you find him? Likehim? So full of book learning,
we find all kinds, mister,will you found one there? Now?
He's up on all the law inthese parts. I'm not talking about your
army law. I'm talking territory law. I think that's how you said it,
something about there's a timy year.You can't shoot to what lieutenant calls
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wildlife. There's a law about hunting. First Territorial Assembly passed it. It's
called wildlife conservation. Well, Ideclare, yeah, I thought the army
was a shooting outfit. It is, mister. Now, I'm gonna tell
you what I told the lieutenant.You're gonna make laws out here. You
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make them about the Engines, butyou leave a white man to his words.
Yeah, must be you've shot upall the herds on the South Plains,
or I wouldn't take all the creditfor that. Others got to do
coming. I'm not at your captain, seem way, you're not at me.
You spoke your piece. You're wrong, missed him. That's another thing.
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I'm almost never wrong. There's treatylaw that says you can't go into
Indian territory. That means all theland north of Fort Laramie. I'm getting
to might word about the army.Ain't they doing any killing? No more.
We're obliged to warn you. Ifyou do go in. We can't
protect you. I just don't recollectasking for any protection. You are to
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come along, Captain. There's Hunting'sfor real sporting, man. I saw
some of your slaughter the other day. That's real sporting. Now you hear
me what I say. I getpaid on how many buffalo hides I ship.
That's fine. Then folks in theEast are developing a taste for buffalo
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meat. All I gotta do isget it to the railroad, and that's
fine. I get paid for thattoo. I'd hate to have to fight
a war on your account, mister. Maybe I'd be on your side.
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I'm good at shooting. I'll tellyou what you figure price on engine hides
engine meat. Maybe I will beon your side. Captain. This is
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kid Carson country in the Captain,along the Potter River, he was up
here, sure, all along thebottoms of the powder it was black with
buffalo. Then, well, thebig herds is still up this way.
I don't think the Indians think sothat's good enough for me and for Jake
Cuppy. Apparently you take men likeKit Carson. Now he was a trapper,
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a hunter, but you hear goodthings about him. The Indians like
him. You're not comparing Carson toCuppy, are you, mister Cybert.
No, Sarah, I'm trying tofigure out the difference. Both seem to
be after the same things seem tobe. Maybe the early trappers, hunters,
the mountain men, they learned alot from the Indians, made friends
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with him, like you say,but more they came to hunt like Indians
hunter. You mean, they hotit as they had need more that they
knew what conservation meant even then thatif you kill more than the herd can
very young, you'll run out ofquarry man like Cuppy now, he likes
a slaughter. I hope we findhim, Captain. I hope we find
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him in time, mister Cyberts.The wagon tracks were following Captain. You
know what a bottom it looks likethey stopped just ahead, sir, right
at that line of trees. Butdraw, Oh they could be in there,
Captain, couple in golf, theycould, mister Shabberts, Come on,
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Gors, Yes, largeant Gorris andI are gonna move flat into the
trees, mister saberts. How thepatrols stand to covers. One shot out
of those trees and you move inliken alright, sergeant running crops down for
the brush. And we moved flatin the bellies. Yes, let's go
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the high big wagons like goofy head. They moved through here better, and
we do kept them. I can'tsee coupy him making the camp here.
I can't see him coming in hereover the army's warning. Mhm, just
about to the trees, Gorse.I don't straight until we're in him.
Yes, all right, now they'renot as thick as they look, Captain.
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Huh head there, Gors for wagon? What's goofies wagon? All right?
Some hides here in the bed andhis team's gone. Let'st be thinking
to drag the hides back here fromhow far away? I wonder? I
don't know. I'm trying to figurehim, Captain. I can see they
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might hide the wagon so as wecouldn't follow its tracks, But we can
track horses. Who's just as well. Not this way, gors m H.
Green Sacks. We'll sure. Yeah. He fixed Green's acts to their
hoofs. It muffles the sound leavesalmost no hoofprints. They're smarter than they
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act, Captain, are they gores? H buffalo guns? That's one sound
they can't muffle. Come Onshargent.We've read in five miles at least,
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Captain, and no sound of godus for the last three. Don't need
sound with a sign like that,ahead, mister Hybrids. A brown haze
like dust. It is dust,means a big herd probably been stampeded.
There's bttom land just after that risewhere where crick feeds into the powder.
We'll make for that, yes,sir at the gallop, Oh true,
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Oh right out with me, misterSabbats, yessird, Captain. Look I'm
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looking, mister Sabbaths. He saidit was a big herd, but it's
like a massacre. Must be athousand buffalo. It is a massacre.
That much killing of anything without cause, it is a massacre. Well,
Jake Cuppy, he couldn't have shothim all he could shoot enough with Golfhie
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helping. Likely the rest were stampededto death and slaughter, that's all you
can call it that. I don'tsee how it could happen so much of
it. Buffalo don't have much eyesight, you kin't. I'm smelling signs of
danger. Cuppi's trick is to shootfrom far enough away so they can't smell
him. We better, we bettergo down there, mister sabbats copy would
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would he cause all this and thenhide out? Captain? He might,
knowing we'd becoming after him. Noone here and Golf he couldn't hope to
haul him all out before we gothere. Is seeing any that's been skinned?
Nos? Or not a one overhere? I don't know. That
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explains a lot of things. Icome on their horses first, down further.
They're shotful airs too. Both ofthem are still warm, Captain.
They haven't been dead long. Thousanddead Buffalo, two dead men. That's
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a lot of death, a lotof weight. The engines must still be
around, Captain. Yeah, it'dstill be around up in the hills.
Likely those arrows, sir, they'rein Cuppy and Golf and the horses,
but not the buffalo. The Indiansweren't after buffalo. Mister Sabbats, come
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on, let's move out, Captain. We'll have to fight the Indians for
this, not today, not thispatrol. But this isn't the last of
the buffalo hunters. Moral come allthe time, and we'll fight wars over
it. We've got to just leavethings this way. Sooner we go,
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mister Sabbats, the sooner the Indianswill move down and get to meet the
hides. Sometimes all a man cando is turn walk away. Fort Laramie
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is produced and directed by Norman McDonnelland stars Raymond Burr as Lee Quinns,
Captain of Cavalry, with Vic Perrinas Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially
written for Fort Laramie by Kathleen Hight, with son patterns by Bill James and
Ray Kemper. Musical supervision by AmerigoMarino featured in the cast where James Nusser
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and Barney Phillips. Jack Moyles isMajor Daggett and Harry Bartel is Lieutenant Seiberts.
A company tensions miss Next week anothertranscribe story of the Northwest Frontier and
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