“What’s Going On!” The Four Souls Flo Pop Culture Episode

It's been an interesting week! An earthquake, eclipse, and so much more! Join the co-hosts of Four Souls Flo as we discuss everything pop culture! We are discussing the good, the bad and the ugly! You don't want to miss this hilarious episode. It's short, but jammed pack with the co-host's views on what's happening right now!

Episode Transcript

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Hello and welcome back to the FourSouls Flow Podcast. This podcast is going
from friendship, family and love.We are Alison, Kim, Susan and
TSH, women who have let oursouls flow with every girl's trip, phone
call and milestone for thirty plus years. The Four Souls Podcast is committed to
having conversations that will encompass real talk, real life, and real love.

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Now get ready, take a seatand join us. Now let's flow.
Welcome to the Four Souls Flow Podcast. What's happening to ladies, Hey,
or, in the words of MarvinGay, what's going on? A lot?
It's a lot. It's a lot. It's past a couple of weeks

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or a month has been quite eventful. Well, listen, let's talk about
it. Then. Okay, it'sa lot to what unpacked from the last
few I'm backing. Okay, Firstof all, I don't know if anybody
else knows about our side of thiscountry, but we got a little shook

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up this past week, did wenot? We were, yeah, sh
shook and shooking. This is theFour Souls Flow tri State earthquake addition.
Okay, because we had an earthquakeEarth and my trip after shock too,
that's crazy. That was that wasa bit much. And you know,

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I do remember in seventeen, twentyseventeen, we had one. I was
I was working for ADP at thetime, and I remember being in the
building. They evacuated us and itwas slight. This one. I saw
my windows move and I was like, wait a minute. I walked out
to kind of get to the doorwayand I'm like. My son was like

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and I was like, yeah,that was an earthquake, so unprepared,
like you know, you don't expect. It was something unexpected. I really
didn't even know what to do.I live in an apartment. I have
neighbors who can get a little boisterous. So at first I thought it was
coming from overhead and I was likewhat and that hell, I ain't doing

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this morning until my feet started movingto Yeah. I went to train because
I'm by the train station. It'sright behind my buildings. So you know,
for me, I thought it wasa train coming by. And then
I realized I didn't hear a train, right, I thought it was a
plane. And I was because Iheard a plane, and then I said,

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why is that plane so loud?That is low? And when I
got up. I said, ohno, this is this is serious.
I got up dunking. I said, man, you gonna come down.
Don't come down too close from me. But then I got Then I got
to my husband and I said,he said no, He said, that's

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an earthquake. That was no plane, that was not above, that was
below. It was. I wassitting in the chair getting my hair braided.
Oh my gosh. And when Itell you, like all the weave
hair on the wall, all thehair in the studio, I mean everything

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was shaking. The chair I wassitting in with shaking. It was wild.
And at first when it first started, I was like, is that
a truck? Like did an accidentbeen? What's going on? But then
I realized, like you said,when my feet started moving back and forth,
I was like, oh my god, not another earthquake. Yes,
yes, didn't. I ran out. Me and my child ran outside.
It's one of those things where youif you don't know what to do.
Because my first thought was trying toremember, I said, do we get

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in the closet, do we getin the tub, do we run outside?
What do you do with earthquake?I ran outside. That probably wasn't
the right thing. To do.But it was so funny how they were
saying, you know, there wassomebody on the news who's doing the forecast,
and she was saying she grew upin La so she knew exactly what
to do, and she didn't realizethat so many people on the East Coast
just not aware because we don't practicethat. It was a drill for them
in school. That wasn't part ofwhat we did preparation. And from what

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I understand, you know, watchingthe news, because you know, the
coverage all of a sudden blew up, and particularly the people are our friends
in New York, a lot ofpeople said they didn't feel it. It
was just like yeah, and becausethat's a town that's full of a lot
of trains and systems there, youknow, they just didn't even feel the
honey. We felt all of it, and it was weird. It was

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just a really weird and I waslike dag because of the it was so
loud, like the sound was soloud. But think about it, the
earth is really separating. Yeah,So pray for those families that were displaced
in they're okay, Yeah, theyare in their homes. They because that

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house shifted. Yeah, jerseys strongfor sure. Absolutely, we'll talk about
shaking things up. How about shakingit out on that court? Dawn Stay
in the University of South Carol gratulation, congratulation game card? Yes? Is

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that aware? Was it? Loveher? She's classy, wonderful, great,
and my god, I mean tohave a season where you have no
lasses. What it takes to getto that point, Oh my god,
amazing. But you know, justwatching her as a player, whether it

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was in college or a professional career, she's always been the same and it's
always so lovely to watch her andher tutelage with her, you know,
with her team, for them togo all the way. And I loved
it. When she got an interviewshe called it an uncommon favor. Yes,

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absolutely, he was. What elseis happening in sports? Though?
I don't know. You gotta shutout New York, New York, Go,
New York go. You got yourhoy on and in the color next
today if we had a video togo with this, Okay, to put

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it out there, you guys gotmy girl here. The boys are doing
that. I didn't wear my jersey. I don't know why I did not
all the time going to hide todayand after this morning, we're number three

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and the that's beautiful. We siveand you know, let's just talk about
the history of the next right becausethere is a long history and for them
to be here, we are goingto give them their props. We're giving
you guys your flowers. You're doinga wonderful job, and thank you so
much for your contribution for the Tristatearea. Yes, yes, doing a

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great job. And I just can'twait to see what they're gonna do in
the playoffs, right, all right, you're ready ready listen, Well,
talking about can't wait to see.We can't wait to see how big this
dag On Cowboy carda album is gonnablow up. It is taking things by

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storm, is it not? Whatdo you think, Beyonce? I'm gonna
say Beyonce is gone country. ButBeyonce said this is not a country album.
It's a Beyonce album. What doyou think? Okay? We talked
about this a little bit the othernight and I was a little bit boisterous,
So I'm gonna chill out today.You ain't the first, She's not

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the first, Okay. There area lot of other black artists that came
before Beyonce. Yes, I'm notsaying it's a mediocre album. What I
am saying because I am used toBeyonce being you know, more of an
R and B artists. Maybe shecould even fall into the pop category as
well. You know, Okay,you did that. You're not the first.

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Let's just dim it down a littlebit. Give her her flowers.
But she's not the first black artist, and she won't be the last.
You know, let's enjoy it.Interesting how her notoriety, though, can
shift things, you know, notnot certainly so agreeable. Not the first

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person, not the first black artistexactly, but now taught it as the
first black woman with a number onecountry albums, that's yeah, yeah,
well, we know that there aregraduate you, we know that there are
plenty of people before her, CharliePrior, Darius Rutger, Kane Brown,

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but have topped the country charts.But yeah, she was the first black
woman to sever cheap. Well we'llsee, I mean, her husband,
her husband said that, you know, she deserves the number of the Grammy
for Best Albums. So I guesswe'll see if Cowboy Carter will take that

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Grammy prize next season or not.Okay, all right, Well, how
about listen in the world of musicnow, I don't even know how to
get around it, but okay,well let's just start with that. And
if you and if and if youare what they say you are, we're

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talking about Diddy. I'm talking aboutDiddy. This is a real turn of
events, isn't it to have comefrom such a place of popularity notoriety to
now be you know, in alot of circles, you know, disgraced

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and for lack of a better word, you know, we know that things
really started to amplify around the theclaim that Cassie made and the settlement that
happened within their relationship, and itseems like things have just kept evolving ever

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since. It's interesting because it remindsme of the r. Kelly situation.
I was thinking about the same You'veheard these things for years, Yeah,
for years, and her rumors.You've heard little things, people say things,
and it kind of gets you know, pushed off to the the rug.
And so I wonder how many peopleare are we surprised? That would

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have been my question. Is anybodysurprised about any of it? No,
you don't know. It's just like, wow, okay, is out there
now, Yeah, because now youcan't take it back when it's out there,
and especially the more we get toknow about the music industry, you
know what I mean as a wholehaving so many women come forward, not

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about did he necessarily in particular,but saying this is what I had to
and entertainment period, this is whatI had to do to make my way.
This is how I was asked tocompromise myself in order to get to
where I was trying to go,you know, and to see the misogyny
that that's the other thing too.I mean, we can't even dismiss all

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of the misogyny that has played intoall of this. Back in our days,
you know where I mean, wordslike you no woman wanted to be
called horror bitch and then they justbecame place common place. So yeah,

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well, family related, so tospeak, is also the whirldwind that is
swimming around. Uh Diddy's good friend. We know him as Uncle Russ and
his daughter Aoki Le Simmons, andhe's got all the same issues. Yeah,
he's all the same issues too.You're absolutely right there. He is

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now living in Bali and some wouldsay sort of doing so to avoid you
know, some of the catastrophe thathas been leading its way towards him as
well. But his daughter was ina brief fling, we suppose with an

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older gentleman sixty four years old.They say three times her birth age.
But we also know that her motherwas also involved with her own father as
a very young girl seventeen and underwhat people call under not an adult,
not yet an adult, or nowinvolved with her her dad Russell Simmons.

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So what is too old? Isthat? I mean, I think we
can all agree as too old?What is too old? If you're a
twenty one year old woman? Whatis too old? You don't have enough
of life, life experiences, Ithink at twenty one in terms of relationship,
a lot of times in order toget into a relationship with the man
that's twice your age or even threetimes your age. And the thing about

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that are and I don't want tosay unfortunately, but unfortunately when you see
the example of that in your homelife, why would you know that it's
taboo? Yeah? You know?I mean do people do it all the
time all the time? Is letme tell you something, I am as

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will not come home with that dramawith me Okay, if she had done
that, we'll be talking still nowand she's thirty mm. So you know
that's a horrid one to me asa parent. That's just very difficult.
You know, I can't even understand, you know, like when you look
at twenty one and you look atsixty five or sixty four. Yeah,

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that's just too old. Yeah,there's a lot of things about it,
like if I'm just going to dolike because now my MoMA went somewhell you
hanging on because we hang we hangin south So like, what the hell
is the allora? Okay? Isit the pocket? Because it would have
to be yeah, okay, becausejingle bells and tambourine ain't doing it.

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Okay, definitely two different leagues.I mean, I'm going to be transparent
and my own self as a youngwoman, and I remember a time being
a twenty year old college student datingat the time a man who was twenty
nine turning thirty and even less thana decade there was a clear difference.

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You know, I was giddy andreally and he was a working person and
mature, and you know it wasshort lived, of course, as it
it probably should have started in thefirst place, but very short lived,
and so I can only imagine exactly. It's like Danny your father, Yeah,
grandfather or grandfather or grandfather. Yeah, that's craziness. Well talk about

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Sorry, am I going off thechildren? It's not I have nothing to
say that. I don't understand that. I will never understand that. That's
old. That's just too old.Yeah, a twenty one year old.
Well, now here's the other thingto understanding it. Not understanding it?
And what think about parents who ina position to really what do you do

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about it? I mean you havea technically an adult child. I mean
you can say, oh, whatyou want, but they're going to do
what they Yeah, they're not goingto listen to understand that conversation. Yeah
yeah. Giving a shout out toa counterpart a contemporary which is Tonight's Conversation

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podcast, talk about timing. Youall were telling us about a great conversation
they had not long ago about youtalk about it soon. Yeah. So,
Tash and I love the show,So we just want to give you
guys your props. You do suchan excellent job. And I happened to
watch there was a young lady whohad a question about when do you kind

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of engage in sexual activity in yourrelationship. And Yama was on there and
the question kind of circled runner thethirty sixty ninety day, and she said,
yeah, you need to wait ninetydays. Now, let's think about
it. You can jump into thingsa lot easier and that's fine. And

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she refers to you know, KittyKat as madam and she said, the
madam takes over. Instead of youlearning who your partner is, the madam
takes over. So what do youguys think? Is it a thirty day
window? Was it a sixty orwas was it a sixty day window?
And speak from it not when we'reyoung, but speak from it if you

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were in your twenties or whatever,or just embarking on a relationship. Now,
Okay, I don't think, Well, here's what I do think.
I don't think there's a magical time, you know. I don't think there
is ninety days, sixty days,thirty days. I think it really is
about, especially if you're saying fromU at this stage as an adult,

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just getting to a place of securityabout a few things. You know,
is there an emotional security? There? Is there a physical security there?
Have you talked and discussed the thingsthat would make you feel comfortable about engaging
in a deeper, more meaningful,more intimate way with that person. Do

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you think that waiting sixty thirty sixtyninety days for sex, because that's more
of the premise. If you wait, you get to know them better,
So I would say necessarily, right, I don't think ninety days is really
Yes, you know them a littlebetter than you knew them at day one,
day two, but ninety days isnot a long time. But for

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me, I really think it's aboutyour intention. Why are you dating?
If you are just dating, you'reout having a good time. You don't
want a relationship, and you're ata stage where you can you know,
they have the ability to have sexwith someone and not become, oh I'm
in love. You do what youwant to do. You're an adult.
If it's ten days, five days, that night, whatever, Right,
it's your intention. My intention isI'm about to have a good time.

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I'm not looking for a relationship.If I'm dating intentionally because I want to
be in a relationship, of course, you want to wait. You want
to figure out who this person is. Like Kim said, have you had
those conversations make you feel comfortable andsecure whatever it is you're looking for.
Really, I think it depends onyour intention and what you're looking for,
because not everybody, even in ourage group, you know, are mature

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enough to be in a relationship interms of knowing what they want, because
some of us it takes a littlebit longer to know what you want from
a relationship, what that looks like, and how it's mapped out. And
I also agree with you in termsof it's totally up to you because you
still can build a wonderful relationship havingsex the first night, second night,
all five nights that you see him. Please you can't because it's the it's

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where you want to go. It'ssome of us have been married to people
for fifteen years and woke up andsaid, who the hell is this?
I'll slap your hands because that's okay. The enemy the enemy. Yes,

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true, So I agree with that. I do you have any input on
that? Honey? What do youthink? I think that all the things
you guys raised are good? Imean, I just you know, I
mean, I can't really take itfrom my point of view because you know,
it's but when you were sweet young, intended so that answers the question.

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I mean and it's okay. Imean that, you know, things
didn't always last thirty sixty ninety days, like some things just was like okay,
oh yeah, I do this.I think I should get older.
I don't know, I don't knowwhat. I don't know what got I

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don't know what anyone like, whatwould I offer someone that came to me
and said, you know, I'mthinking about this guy, like it was
one of my nieces. I thinkabout this guy and should I or shouldn't
I or whatever? And I wouldyou know, it's always gonna be me
to just kind of like take iteasy, kind of feel it out,

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you know, get to know thatperson or whatever, because you know,
once we get involved, that's it, you know it really it really seals
the deal because you know, womenput their feelings out there, and once
we have that connection, you can'ttake that back, you know, and
so are you able to get thatconnection, like a ninety days ninety days

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enough time for you to really Ithink that in ninety days you should understand
whether the like you had said Toash, what direction the relationship is going in.
You know, are we going tobe a couple or we're going to
be Are you exclusive in that ninetydays when you're figuring this out or are
you people seeing other people? Like, yeah, that's about a question like

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the ninety days is ninety days isnot a lot of times, not a
lot of time, but it's enoughtime to know whether you're going to be
exclusive with some per with somebody.All right, maybe I'm thinking, maybe
I'm thinking, yeah, I don'tknow, I'm just I'm just I don't

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listen, Okay, but I wasmarried first and I have dated since then,
and it is it's it's hard.It's hard. What it is when
you think about shows like Love isBlind, where they're having people make decisions
about lifelong commitments in ten or twelvedays on somebody, These people sitting pods

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and have in tense daily conversations.You've never seen the man period, You've
never seen him. He could beabout very white in it on you Love
is Blind and you see him hecomes literally and then you see, yeah,
oh that's what happens, because ifI see you and you shorter than

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me, that's what they'll breaking.So let's ask another question for the ninety
days. So we talked about ninetydays. What about living with a mighty
before you're married, Like, whatabout living with someone before you actually even
if you have the intention, youknow, I've done this. This is
a person who I intend to marry, but you're not engaged and you're my

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accidents. I got together before weminded to, before we got married.
I lived three months with my myhusband married, so and it was it
was built on my plans were alreadyin Mary. We tended to and you
know, get you get situated first, and then because I found the apartment

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and so we felt we found theapartment, so we just got married and
then we got married right right thatbecause I feel like you don't really know
a person live and then you understand, yeah, you know if I might

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have lost words, you know,you truly understand. But then you got
married. Listen, Okay, there'sa gre A lot happened. Okay,
so did you living with him first? It didn't have any I have to

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go back to what Kim said aboutwho the hell, who the fu is
this? And I'm laying next tobecause he say that before after the marriage,
I said a whole lot it was. It was that's another that's another
podcast episode. Okay, getting overthat what are you doing? That's the

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exactly that. That's the red flagepisode. How many red flags did you
meant? Flag on the play flag? Oh, that's what's playing. Listen
you listen, listen you. WhenI moved in with him, initially I

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was pregnant, you know, andit was fine. Baby came well.
As we approached to the summer time, folks, was really getting comfortable.
So I couldn't do but so muchbecause you know I was. You think
I'm right roun now, I wasright right, handsy then you know,
I was in your face like nigro, like nigga while you in here coming

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here late. I'm pregnant. Ican't be here by myself, you know.
Yeah, but you're okay. Thatbehavior never changed, you know,
so you asked me that question.It was throughout before after five minutes after
we got married. This this isa whole other episode relationship. But it's

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different now, right, So hindsightis different. Highsight is twenty twenty.
I think that, yes, youcan live with someone, but I also
think that you need to you needto get to know the person a little
bit better. And when you seethe warning sides, take key to them.
Yeah, take them and I dothink that also there should be maybe
a time frame around that too,also, because you don't want to men

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with somebody with the intention you think, and this is your person want to
get married and you're five years downthe line. Yeah, eactly true if
your intention is to be married.Yes, right, yes, Oh,
I know how to get you allgoing open over here, group, going
listen. Well, I mean thisis a rough segue, but you know,

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just talking about relations and thinking aboutthe people who have made an impact
and who have really journeyed with usalong our lifetime. We'd like to send
our condolences out to the family ofthe great Luke Gossip Junior. I remember,

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let me tell you something, Lou. I can't remember almost the time
that it was the Safety Characters seventeenplus year career, so there was never
a New York boy that I hadnever seen Luke on TV. Yeah,

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I remember Lou from Good Time,And I was saying, Lou played two
characters interestingly, and he was bothThelma's older boy. Speaking of older relationships.
He played Thelma's oldest boyfriend in oneand then and then Florida's brother.
Yeah, yeah, Florida's brother inan episode okay, okay, I myself.

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I think so Michael was in trouble. She went He went to Michael
was being bullied and shout out toFantasia for the beautiful way that she with
her voice. It was just beautiful, shout out, always beautiful, awesome.
Well, it's a lot that canhappen in seven days, isn't it.

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Indeed, there's a lot that happenedthis week. This was our first
opportunity to have our little pop cultureconversation, and I think it went pretty
fun. Talking about the cicadas.I guess we'll be talking about the Bible,
I guess at the same time.But everything is eclips. Yes,

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earthquake, earthquake. We went fromearthquake, quit to eclipse. It's like,
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