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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone. My name is Chris. I am with Only
Friends School and this is the Friday Fun with Friends podcast.
Today I am interviewing Pearl. She's a senior here at
Only Friends School. Pearl, will you introduce yourself with your
name and your future plans. My name is.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Pearl ivan Akio and I'm a senior. How Chrisiane on
going to college Wescalliams, I'm setting onto a general becoming
a cadeologist. So far, have plans of going to a
new University of New Mexico. So I guess I'll find
out from the one who happitness Why New Mexico. That's
(00:50):
what my mental advice does, best choice or one of
the best choices, and it has a nice research program.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I hear it's warm there.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm worried about it being all right, so because
I really hate what I really hate it when it's moist,
But I guess I'll go through in.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, I think it's definitely more like a dry heat
over there versus like Florida where it's just gross and sticky.
But so thank you for that, Pearl. I'm so excited
that you took the time out of your busy schedule
to talk to me, So thank you so much for that.
(01:38):
So your research topic is AI, and this is a
really new concept and I haven't really used it too much.
I've been tempted, but I feel like every time I do,
I have to go back and fix stuff anyway, So
why not just not use it? But I thought your
(02:00):
paper was really interesting. You open up by stating what
would the world be if there were no imaginations? Elaborate
on that. What would the world look like if there
is no imagination?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I bet aways. I still don't know, because even right
now I'm am using my imagination to find out what
would happen without imagination. So it's kind of had questions
for me. So that's why I mostly explained why we
have imagination.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So it's kind of I can't imagine a world without imagination. Yeah,
that's a great way to start out imagination. Why is
imagination important to me?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Starting my imagination was one way to create if foundation
for how AI was invented or how it came up
into existence, if someone didn't think of, oh, let's have
machines that can think on their own, or if he
didn't imagine it and become creative to create a theory
(03:15):
and then laid for us for the generations to come
then wouldn't have AI.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So it was a foundation for my topic. And so
you start your paper with how people use AI and
how that could be maybe you know, make it difficult
for them to use their imagination too, to develop things
(03:42):
on their own, using their own skills, their own tools.
Can you elaborate on that is how it would hinder
somebody in their progress.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So basically about the imagination or mostly is an example
of an artist. If someone was to use an AI
program like Procreate and to use traditional tools like a pencil,
what I get to miss around come up with new stuff?
You know what I also called in my paper happy
(04:15):
mistakes or happy accidents. The only person who is using
Procreator is going to have to be created by AI
every single time, you know, highlight these do this. But
then on my side, I'm gonna explore through that hardworked
to make something if I feel like, if I feel
is good.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So from an artist's standpoint, I could definitely see how
AI would would hinder your work your growth as an artist.
But in your paper you also talk about how it
can be beneficial in the medical field, which I thought
was very interesting. Do you want to talk a little
bit about that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, so people having to use procreate is more, you know,
using AI to do work for them. But then I
came up with what if we you know, we use
area as a part no more, not a shortcut to
finish our homeworks like you gibuty, but us hoping us
in our home, more collaboration as making us better people,
(05:16):
as muggining stuff with AI by all side. So small collaboration,
but not using it as a short cut.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I thought that the history and the
founding of AI was was interesting. It was founded in
what nineteen fifty six? How was it founded? Who founded it?
Usually it was the world was founded in the open.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
AI was founded in nineteen fifty six, But the theory
that made up a I was made up in nineteen
fifty by a British mathematician called Alan Tying. So he's
the guy who came up with an imagination of what
if we had machines thinking like us, machines doing things
(06:16):
that we can do. Then nineteen fifty six, some two
guys at a conference came up and said, what if
we call it at Fisher intelligence now the opposite of
human intelligence, because it would do something that you know
a human can do. It's a machine. He doesn't have life,
not just technology. Yes, crazy stuff. It really is crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I remember when it I mean for us, it would
became available just what a year or two ago. It
wasn't that long ago, and you know, I was really
against it. And then you know, my friends kept saying, oh,
you should try it for this, or you should try
it for that, and but it just it's still weird
(07:06):
to me. I still haven't really jumped on the bandwagon.
I'm not quite sure I will. I think it's really
important for humanity to be able to use their brains
and you know, type a paper without using help so
as and I'm a grant writer, so I do a
(07:27):
lot of writing. And you know I have colleagues who say, oh, well,
if you just you know, copy and paste and to
chat GPT, it'll summarize your words for you. And I'm like, okay,
now I'm not sure I want to do that. So yeah,
there's there's two sides of the fence here. But definitely
(07:50):
looking into the medical field. How like you said you
want to be a cardiologist, correct, right, So how would
AI help you in your field? Of cardiology. There's something
called robotic surgery. Specifically most most cardiologists is something called
(08:14):
a Da Vinci surgery system, so it also uses AI,
but it's more it involves only two people, the cardiologist,
the NANCE and the person being operated on, So that
that that whole system uses AI and the person. The
(08:35):
cardiologist has to use something of a joystick oil console,
and the the NaNs is just that to supervise and
make sure everything is going great. So that is.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The reason why I need to educate to myself also
about you know, how these things are going to work.
Because as the world is moving on, air is also
growing and every sector we're having involves AI, and I
wouldn't like to build behind. So yeah, one of their
examples is the robotics Agjary.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, that too. Does does that scare you because it
kind of scares me. The whole idea of me going
under the knife with a robot.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh, that's one of the challenges towics. It's hard for
us to implement AI. Why some people are still not
okay with using, you know, non trusting a machine or
what if it jumps into my body or if something happens. Yeah,
that's one of the reasons to why it won't be
able to replace humans at least.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I can think of a few, uh possible horror stories
with this, the robots taking over and oh my goodness,
but you know there there could be a lot of
good too. And using a I I mean we you
(10:04):
you go through a lot of schooling as a cardiologist,
learning all the different parts of the heart. And I apologize,
I wasn't I didn't do well in anatomy, but it's
really fascinating, you know, to really think about how delicate
the tissue is, how many are the heart is made
(10:25):
up of tissues, very very delicate tissues, the arteries, the
veins are very very small, and we have so many
and you know it's how it works. I don't know,
that's really complex. That's some complex stuff there. So what
(10:46):
why cardiology? Like what got you interested in the field?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
When I was in primary school, I had a friend
who had had condition, So you know, why don't you
go for this? And most one of the most of
the kids in Uganda you might find that they have
problems with the hard and of course we don't have
many cardiologists in Uganda, so of course they have to
(11:12):
collect money for them to go to maybe indiail a
better country for surgeries, and at the end of the day,
they aren't going to have the money or you know,
we need people in our country to do something for us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Wow, okay, so I wasn't aware of that. That's really interesting.
Why why do you have a lack of doctors in Uganda?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Could be the educational or maybe burnt Sometimes most times
when a person needs to have education in Uganda and
they end up coming to the US, they have to
end up doing everything all over. So I don't know
that much, but I would like to think of you know,
since we're developing country, of course you might help such
(12:02):
issues in our countries.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And and you don't. That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that.
So you're going to become a cardiologist and you're going
to move back to Uganda and you're going to help
your people.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, it's not I would like to go back in
Ugandan also to Ugandan then also that you were so
basically helping the world, but well you know Uganda too.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And and you said a lot of people in Uganda
have heart issues, many kings, many kids. Is there do
you know? Why don't I don't know, maybe donating genetics.
That's interesting, okay, So and what is there anything do
(12:58):
you do any Will you be doing any sports or
clubs or anything at the University of New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It depends on what my kid gives me, because I've
literally seen all those biochemistry take sports and age. Maybe
I would like to do sports, maybe volleyball or soccer,
but it depends on what my skate looks like.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, that sounds really fun. So is there anything any
other fun? Give us a fun fact about the heart?
Something we don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I realized that if someone over well, I want some
of the people if they over walk out in the gym,
and if they maybe if they're chasing ends up over
extending or becoming more elastic, sometimes they might end up
getting hard heart failure because the HAD can't pump to
(14:02):
other places. So I don't know whether it applies to everyone,
but yes, because also one of the cases in Uganda
way is certain minister lost her child because of you know,
over walking out and maybe muscles were extended and I
couldn't work out anymore to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Pump blood everywhere.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But that had comes blood everywhere, and it's some prefer
I see it as the most delicate organ.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, the most important organ. You know, you have your brain,
you have your lungs, but really the heart fuels the
body with blood, carries the oxygen through the through the body.
And yeah, there's people who need to be able to
know about the heart and work on the heart. And
(14:50):
that's gonna be you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, and growing up who were told that the size
of the the way your your your face looks, looks
like your feast might be the size of your hood.
So I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, I have big hands, so I must have a
big heart. That's really interesting. Is it true that an
octopus has three hearts? I I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I heard that. What was the movie? It's like Finding
Nemo or something, one of those movies. But I heard
the octopus has three hearts?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yes, sorry, too hard those feelings. I never I never
liked the cartoon Finding Nemo.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh that's okay, I'll forgive you. Well. I think we
are running out of time, so Pearl, thank you so much. Actually,
before we go, i'd like to ask you about your
time here at only have you enjoyed yourself? How many
(16:04):
years have you been here at? Only Friends School.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is my second year Only Friends School. I like
my first year here, maybe because I was finding myself,
but then my last year has been tactic because of
But it's fun. You get to, you know, enjoy a
little bit of diversity. But it's all good, you.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Know, it's funny. I tell people all the time. Only
Friends School is the most diverse spot in Belmont County.
It really is, and it's so beautiful and I love it.
But and and, as I tell everyone, if you ever
want to stop by for a tour, I'll give anybody
a tour of Only Friends School. But Pearl, thank you
(16:52):
so much. Congratulations on graduating. And I'm excited to hear
all the wonderful things you do. Thank you, thank you
for inviting me here.
Hello everyone. My name is Chris. I am with Only
Friends School and this is the Friday Fun with Friends podcast.
Today I am interviewing Pearl. She's a senior here at
Only Friends School. Pearl, will you introduce yourself with your
name and your future plans. My name is.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Pearl ivan Akio and I'm a senior. How Chrisiane on
going to college Wescalliams, I'm setting onto a general becoming
a cadeologist. So far, have plans of going to a
new University of New Mexico. So I guess I'll find
out from the one who happitness Why New Mexico. That's
(00:50):
what my mental advice does, best choice or one of
the best choices, and it has a nice research program.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I hear it's warm there.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm worried about it being all right, so because
I really hate what I really hate it when it's moist,
But I guess I'll go through in.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, I think it's definitely more like a dry heat
over there versus like Florida where it's just gross and sticky.
But so thank you for that, Pearl. I'm so excited
that you took the time out of your busy schedule
to talk to me, So thank you so much for that.
(01:38):
So your research topic is AI, and this is a
really new concept and I haven't really used it too much.
I've been tempted, but I feel like every time I do,
I have to go back and fix stuff anyway, So
why not just not use it? But I thought your
(02:00):
paper was really interesting. You open up by stating what
would the world be if there were no imaginations? Elaborate
on that. What would the world look like if there
is no imagination?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I bet aways. I still don't know, because even right
now I'm am using my imagination to find out what
would happen without imagination. So it's kind of had questions
for me. So that's why I mostly explained why we
have imagination.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So it's kind of I can't imagine a world without imagination. Yeah,
that's a great way to start out imagination. Why is
imagination important to me?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Starting my imagination was one way to create if foundation
for how AI was invented or how it came up
into existence, if someone didn't think of, oh, let's have
machines that can think on their own, or if he
didn't imagine it and become creative to create a theory
(03:15):
and then laid for us for the generations to come
then wouldn't have AI.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So it was a foundation for my topic. And so
you start your paper with how people use AI and
how that could be maybe you know, make it difficult
for them to use their imagination too, to develop things
(03:42):
on their own, using their own skills, their own tools.
Can you elaborate on that is how it would hinder
somebody in their progress.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So basically about the imagination or mostly is an example
of an artist. If someone was to use an AI
program like Procreate and to use traditional tools like a pencil,
what I get to miss around come up with new stuff?
You know what I also called in my paper happy
(04:15):
mistakes or happy accidents. The only person who is using
Procreator is going to have to be created by AI
every single time, you know, highlight these do this. But
then on my side, I'm gonna explore through that hardworked
to make something if I feel like, if I feel
is good.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So from an artist's standpoint, I could definitely see how
AI would would hinder your work your growth as an artist.
But in your paper you also talk about how it
can be beneficial in the medical field, which I thought
was very interesting. Do you want to talk a little
bit about that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, so people having to use procreate is more, you know,
using AI to do work for them. But then I
came up with what if we you know, we use
area as a part no more, not a shortcut to
finish our homeworks like you gibuty, but us hoping us
in our home, more collaboration as making us better people,
(05:16):
as muggining stuff with AI by all side. So small collaboration,
but not using it as a short cut.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I thought that the history and the
founding of AI was was interesting. It was founded in
what nineteen fifty six? How was it founded? Who founded it?
Usually it was the world was founded in the open.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
AI was founded in nineteen fifty six, But the theory
that made up a I was made up in nineteen
fifty by a British mathematician called Alan Tying. So he's
the guy who came up with an imagination of what
if we had machines thinking like us, machines doing things
(06:16):
that we can do. Then nineteen fifty six, some two
guys at a conference came up and said, what if
we call it at Fisher intelligence now the opposite of
human intelligence, because it would do something that you know
a human can do. It's a machine. He doesn't have life,
not just technology. Yes, crazy stuff. It really is crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I remember when it I mean for us, it would
became available just what a year or two ago. It
wasn't that long ago, and you know, I was really
against it. And then you know, my friends kept saying, oh,
you should try it for this, or you should try
it for that, and but it just it's still weird
(07:06):
to me. I still haven't really jumped on the bandwagon.
I'm not quite sure I will. I think it's really
important for humanity to be able to use their brains
and you know, type a paper without using help so
as and I'm a grant writer, so I do a
(07:27):
lot of writing. And you know I have colleagues who say, oh, well,
if you just you know, copy and paste and to
chat GPT, it'll summarize your words for you. And I'm like, okay,
now I'm not sure I want to do that. So yeah,
there's there's two sides of the fence here. But definitely
(07:50):
looking into the medical field. How like you said you
want to be a cardiologist, correct, right, So how would
AI help you in your field? Of cardiology. There's something
called robotic surgery. Specifically most most cardiologists is something called
(08:14):
a Da Vinci surgery system, so it also uses AI,
but it's more it involves only two people, the cardiologist,
the NANCE and the person being operated on, So that
that that whole system uses AI and the person. The
(08:35):
cardiologist has to use something of a joystick oil console,
and the the NaNs is just that to supervise and
make sure everything is going great. So that is.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The reason why I need to educate to myself also
about you know, how these things are going to work.
Because as the world is moving on, air is also
growing and every sector we're having involves AI, and I
wouldn't like to build behind. So yeah, one of their
examples is the robotics Agjary.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, that too. Does does that scare you because it
kind of scares me. The whole idea of me going
under the knife with a robot.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh, that's one of the challenges towics. It's hard for
us to implement AI. Why some people are still not
okay with using, you know, non trusting a machine or
what if it jumps into my body or if something happens. Yeah,
that's one of the reasons to why it won't be
able to replace humans at least.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I can think of a few, uh possible horror stories
with this, the robots taking over and oh my goodness,
but you know there there could be a lot of
good too. And using a I I mean we you
(10:04):
you go through a lot of schooling as a cardiologist,
learning all the different parts of the heart. And I apologize,
I wasn't I didn't do well in anatomy, but it's
really fascinating, you know, to really think about how delicate
the tissue is, how many are the heart is made
(10:25):
up of tissues, very very delicate tissues, the arteries, the
veins are very very small, and we have so many
and you know it's how it works. I don't know,
that's really complex. That's some complex stuff there. So what
(10:46):
why cardiology? Like what got you interested in the field?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
When I was in primary school, I had a friend
who had had condition, So you know, why don't you
go for this? And most one of the most of
the kids in Uganda you might find that they have
problems with the hard and of course we don't have
many cardiologists in Uganda, so of course they have to
(11:12):
collect money for them to go to maybe indiail a
better country for surgeries, and at the end of the day,
they aren't going to have the money or you know,
we need people in our country to do something for us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Wow, okay, so I wasn't aware of that. That's really interesting.
Why why do you have a lack of doctors in Uganda?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Could be the educational or maybe burnt Sometimes most times
when a person needs to have education in Uganda and
they end up coming to the US, they have to
end up doing everything all over. So I don't know
that much, but I would like to think of you know,
since we're developing country, of course you might help such
(12:02):
issues in our countries.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And and you don't. That's interesting. I wasn't aware of that.
So you're going to become a cardiologist and you're going
to move back to Uganda and you're going to help
your people.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, it's not I would like to go back in
Ugandan also to Ugandan then also that you were so
basically helping the world, but well you know Uganda too.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And and you said a lot of people in Uganda
have heart issues, many kings, many kids. Is there do
you know? Why don't I don't know, maybe donating genetics.
That's interesting, okay, So and what is there anything do
(12:58):
you do any Will you be doing any sports or
clubs or anything at the University of New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It depends on what my kid gives me, because I've
literally seen all those biochemistry take sports and age. Maybe
I would like to do sports, maybe volleyball or soccer,
but it depends on what my skate looks like.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, that sounds really fun. So is there anything any
other fun? Give us a fun fact about the heart?
Something we don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I realized that if someone over well, I want some
of the people if they over walk out in the gym,
and if they maybe if they're chasing ends up over
extending or becoming more elastic, sometimes they might end up
getting hard heart failure because the HAD can't pump to
(14:02):
other places. So I don't know whether it applies to everyone,
but yes, because also one of the cases in Uganda
way is certain minister lost her child because of you know,
over walking out and maybe muscles were extended and I
couldn't work out anymore to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Pump blood everywhere.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But that had comes blood everywhere, and it's some prefer
I see it as the most delicate organ.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, the most important organ. You know, you have your brain,
you have your lungs, but really the heart fuels the
body with blood, carries the oxygen through the through the body.
And yeah, there's people who need to be able to
know about the heart and work on the heart. And
(14:50):
that's gonna be you.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, and growing up who were told that the size
of the the way your your your face looks, looks
like your feast might be the size of your hood.
So I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, I have big hands, so I must have a
big heart. That's really interesting. Is it true that an
octopus has three hearts? I I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I heard that. What was the movie? It's like Finding
Nemo or something, one of those movies. But I heard
the octopus has three hearts?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yes, sorry, too hard those feelings. I never I never
liked the cartoon Finding Nemo.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh that's okay, I'll forgive you. Well. I think we
are running out of time, so Pearl, thank you so much. Actually,
before we go, i'd like to ask you about your
time here at only have you enjoyed yourself? How many
(16:04):
years have you been here at? Only Friends School.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is my second year Only Friends School. I like
my first year here, maybe because I was finding myself,
but then my last year has been tactic because of
But it's fun. You get to, you know, enjoy a
little bit of diversity. But it's all good, you.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Know, it's funny. I tell people all the time. Only
Friends School is the most diverse spot in Belmont County.
It really is, and it's so beautiful and I love it.
But and and, as I tell everyone, if you ever
want to stop by for a tour, I'll give anybody
a tour of Only Friends School. But Pearl, thank you
(16:52):
so much. Congratulations on graduating. And I'm excited to hear
all the wonderful things you do. Thank you, thank you
for inviting me here.
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