Christian Santiago (Serringe) II

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
You're listening to you from the Dungeon.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Podcast with Jean Rock Rock.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We call a.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Dollar and welcome in front of the Dungeon Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm your host, Dee Rod and I got a main
man in the house tonight. I got the man the
st age, double R I n G. Eastern Ringe. What's
going on? Brother? What up? Killer? Chilling, chill and chilling
eating my penicillin? You know how we do over here,
bro in the d R C DUC You know that

(01:16):
just came out. That just came out, Bro, that just
came out. Man, great, that was great? Oh man, how
you doing? Brother? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Chilling man, just kicking it at the house and about
to catch up with you.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Kicking an old school, kicking an old school, not really
more like modern day. You know, I'm kicking old school, Bro.
My back is kicking an old school. My knees are
kicking an old school.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, that's a whole other story.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh ship man, that's good. Like we were just talking
about motherfucker to kill Keithy D. Yeah, Man, Keithy D
got knifed up.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I just found out through you, Like I said, that's
new to me.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
They actually put their finger on the person.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, you know, they had him in jail for a
long time, bro, long time man, yo, But.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
When did that happen? Like, when did they lock him up?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh, Keithy D, I this was this. I don't even
want to fucking miss quote. Let me see magazine. I
know it's been years, man, I thought that was an
unsolved murder. No, the only thing that's sounds solved so
far is is.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Biggie oh copy that. Well, maybe I'm confusing that. I
always thought it was both of them, but damn, that's crazy.
And so it was involved in that and what Beggie
no Tupac all right, Keithy D Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
On September twenty nine, twenty twenty three, twenty seven year
old U twenty seven years after two records murder, Dwayne
Kay Dwayne Keefy D. Davis Anderson's uncle was arrested. Okay,
it says twenty twenty three. They put him in jail
for the fucking murder. Yeah, all right, I guess so

(03:11):
we had twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
So they just found him guilty today.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
No, no, no, no, just found a murder today. They what
He's been in jail since September twenty nine, twenty twenty three.
Okay for the charge.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Oh you're saying he got murdered today.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, he got murdered in jail today.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's crazy, you know. So it's like, yeah, I never
kept up with that.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and you know, they they found they found the
killer of fucking of jam Master Jay.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I did hear about that.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, they got him. That was its fucked up. That
was his It was his godson and his godsn's father,
which was his best friend. I did hear that.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Man, that's that's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Movie's it's messed up, dude. I mean it's it's kind
of like it's kind of like you can't trust your
best friend that you grew up with. Who the fucking
And it was over coke because I guess he wasn't
getting he wasn't he wasn't cutting properly, because I guess
they were saying jam Master J was dealing coke on

(04:10):
the side to to you know, because the money wasn't
coming in that much from the records sales and ship Yeah.
That's terrible.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
So I mean, yeah, you know, it's one of those
situations you get involved in that world. You know, there's
no telling what might happen to you.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Know that, And they're still looking for the fucking the
Biggie Smalls killing man. But you got puff Daddy's manager
out there, bro, Well, no, not man, Puff Daddy's our
former security guard out there saying only interviews that he's like,
you know, he's like, I read the Biggie contract. Biggie
was about to leave, Puffy was getting like one hundred

(04:49):
percent of all his ship.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I did hear some of that stuff for sure. So
that guy's been popping ship for a while about other
shit too.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know, nobody's stopping him, bro. So it's like, yo,
he must be telling the truth. Both nobody's fucking stopping him.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, that's that's actually something that I've been My wife
and I always talk about, like if you're accusing someone
of doing something really fucked up, yeah, and you weren't,
and this person's gaining like you know, media coverage, Instagram
accounts blowing up, I'd be like, Yo, fuck that person.
I'm gonna sue the.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ship out of that person right first day. I fucked that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
What do you mean I'm doing that?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Fuck?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
No, I'm not fuck you. I'm taking you to court.
But they don't do that, and then quietly keep it
moving and distract you with some ship.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, look, look times, look look at a look
at look at everybody's favorite jay Z. I don't know, bro,
he's got that chick bro coming at him left and right.
Bro fucking And then I can't remember her name right now, bro,
but I know you're talking about And they said they
said she was on his unplugged she was one of

(05:56):
the singers. Oh your mic went off? Bro?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Did it really? Oh there you go?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Okay, there you go for some ready, I couldn't hate
you for a second.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Hold on, let me let me just turn this up
just a little bit. Does that help?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, now you're good. It just went off for for
a second.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know. Strange but uh yeah no.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And you see how how how he's not coming after
her at all? Are you talking about Jaguar? Yeah, Jaguar right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, yeah, I have seen some of the stuff she respewing.
It's crazy, Yo, nobody fucks with her that she she
matter of fact, doesn't she also say that? Yeah, Like
if I'm lying, then come get me.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Type ships act all the time.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, yo, it's kind of like I feel like
social media and stuff, man, just makes people just get dumb,
like your basic instincts just shut the fuck off, you
know what I'm saying, And and you go with whatever
you're looking at. You know, it's like someone's just constantly
planning these seeds in your head. AI ship all sorts
of stuff, and people just consume all of that ship

(07:00):
all day every day. And actually, you know some of
these some people allow the stuff to sway their opinions,
you know, in general, you know what I mean. That's
why a lot of times, you know, you know, I'll
just come out and say it.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Man.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
You know, when I was a younger guy, you know,
especially when you know, we were writing rhymes and stuff.
We were you know, researching a.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Lot of like I had I had in my mind
when you said writing rhymes, I thought of that guy,
Oh god fucking Nordward and you are the rhymes saying.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
They have a better interviewer.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know for sure, that's the beast.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
But you know what I'm saying, it's just like, fuck,
I lost my train of thought, you cut.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Social media is turning people's minds into mush.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, basically, man, what I was saying this is like
you know, I tell people like if you hear something
or see something, like, you should always like cross reference
your shit, you know, research and stuff before you start popping.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
But you don't even know. You don't even know the
way the way they change shit on social the way
they change shit on the internet. You don't even know
if you're reading the right shit or not.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I mean yes and no. Man, I just feel like
there's you know, like people constantly talk about government issues
and stuff like that, and I'm like, you know a.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Lot and you gotta and you got in love with people.
This this, this came out in like twenty twenty two,
this phrase. I did my research. That was that was
the biggest catchphrase twenty teens.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
You should definitely educate yourself as much as possible about something.
You know. It's like, yo, it's it's like anything you know, Yo,
I think tomorrow I'm gonna play the bass. I'm gonna
buy a bass and I'm gonna become a bass player. Right,
and then you put that shit in the corner of
your room and you don't do shit with it.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Sounds like some people we know, I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
And then and then you put the motherfucker up and
you try to play it, and you're humble, right, you
don't know shit, right, sounds like shit, you don't know
how to tune stuff. You're a fucking mess, right, So like,
if you want to get down to it, right, and
you just want to get to the point, what are
you gonna do? Fucking probably go on YouTube, going Google,
look stuff up? How do you tune? What do I

(09:23):
need to tune? And you just fucking you know. And
then two months later Dave's like, Yo, so how's that
base going? And I'm like, Yo, check this out. And
now I get to pop shit right cause I know
how to fucking play. I know everything about this motherfucker
people in today's world when I talk politics and all
this stuff and they're going by, you know what, I

(09:45):
can't stand that motherfucker's here. I can't stand that guy's
always falling asleep. It's like, that's what you're fucking paying
attention to, Like, are you fucking dumb? So you know
it's crazy, man, People just I don't know. People, Just
stop given about shit that matters, dude.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm telling right now, bro, and everybody knows it's one
hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Social media killed everything. We're killed Friendships killed families it.
You know what, we're not supposed to know everything. We're
not supposed to know what's going on in like that.
It's it's not because we can't. We we're not we're
not meant well, a lot of people are not mentally
capable of fucking standing that kind of you know, barrage

(10:25):
of information come at him. Yeah, good or bad.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, that's true, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I just you know, like when we were younger, right,
I tell people this, in today's world, right, people that
are gabbling in music, it's not a beer.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Not a beer, folks, not a beer.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, people that you know are dabbling in music. You know,
for example, when we were kids now were younger, I
should say, playing music, right, what did we do to
actually try to get signed?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Shit? Yeah? Shit?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
And more importantly, in all fairness, we didn't have a blueprint.
We didn't have If you didn't know someone else that
was on and found a way of communicating who you
should be reaching out to, how to go about doing that,
you know, it was almost impossible to be discovered. The
only way you can be discovered is by playing music
and word of mouth and you know, doing local shows,

(11:30):
getting down with your people and shit like that. But
even that can only get you so far in today's world.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yo. No bullshit.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yo. I have a laptop in front of me and interface,
a microphone, headphones, a couple instruments.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You got pro studios in your fucking house, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I have a full fucking studio just literally everywhere I go.
I could close this motherfucker go to fucking Toledo and
say I'm gonna make a beat out here straight up,
and that yo the crazy It gets even better. Then
I could take the song, I could mix it and
master it, and then I can upload it to the
internet and everyone in the world will have access to it.

(12:10):
So I guess what I'm trying to get at is
we have all these opportunities to fucking fast forward and
avoid the obstacles that we did right and applying that
to social media. Social media gave people the opportunity to
say something, and people were gonna listen.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Too many people to say something.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yo, But how quickly did it go from you know,
here's a fucking banging ass recipe to make some you know, cheesecake,
you know what I'm saying, And then you had people
showing you about art and you know, photography and all
this stuff, and then it became girls showing the ass,

(12:52):
dead ass, check it out, I'm gonna shake my ass
out here, right, which led to other platforms like only
fans and all this crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
But my point is, let's just take that one little
piece and a woman is giving a voice and she's like,
how do I get more followers?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm pretty hot.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Let me show my ass, right. You know, dudes, how
many dudes on the fucking Instagram are literally walking in
the hood talking about Yo, what's up kid?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yo? What's up?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Sun?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Straight up? Like Yo, that's what you're doing with.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
The opportunity to say something.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
You know what I'm saying. I just don't get it.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
It really blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Garbage there is out.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
There, yo, for you to consume for hours, yo, and
like you can spend fucking a whole year.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I watched the Spanish guy watch up. People's what's up
baby boy? What's some baby?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
It's crazy yo, and yo, we all fall victim to it.
You know, I love I love boxing, well, I love boxing.
When I was fucking fake man, I'm just saying, well,
you know, the height of boxing, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And Jordan, I'm done. I stopped after that.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Well, I'm trying to get at like Tyson Jordan even
like you know, after that, you know, all the way
up to like Codo and even you know, I was
watching boxing pretty heavy, but I love watching like boxing clips.
But then you're watch enough boxing clips and I guess
the algorithm. You go to your explored page the next day,

(14:35):
and that was bare knuckle boxing. It's like fucking a
dude getting beat the fuck down by one hundred motherfuckers
in jail, and I'm just like, yo, what the fuck
is going on here? Right? So you know if Sick
Graham can really fuck you up, because now you're just like, yo,
hold damn, my man just got knocked off, fucked up.

(14:56):
And then the next clip is some dude pulling out
a knife or some shi or a cop electric fucking
I'm just like, yo, hold up, I just wanted to
watch boxing.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Clips, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
So you know there's that, you know, it's like there's.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
The algorithms of motherfucker from telling you yo, that's what
I'm talking about, swinging you.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't necessarily be like, Yo,
let me go look at some dude getting jumped by
ten motherfuckers, right, And I wouldn't. But because you might
take interest in boxing, which is fighting, all of a sudden,
I guess the algorithm or whatever starts putting all this
stuff for you to see, and then.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's not even exploring it. Now. You just talk and
you go on your phone. It's like, Yo, what the
fuck I was just talking about this?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yo, I'm just gonna say it right now. Any asshole
that thinks that something with the Internet attached to it
and a microphone and a camera can't be you know, used,
you know, to spy on your ass. I said that.
I don't give a shit. I mean, you know that's
what truth, right. But here's the thing. You know, for

(16:03):
a lot of people, it's just like, yo, whatever, man.
You know, if you want to video me taking.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
A ship, you got you got suckers out there fucking
saying they're like, oh, oh, the government's gonna fucking the government.
You know, they want to fucking know everything I'm doing.
They already are bro with the fucking cell phone, with
the Alexa in your house, even your computer.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, and I mean literally, they have ship on your
phone where it's just like find my iPhone, find my laptop.
It's like you yourself are tracking, and they're giving you
the ability to go buy like little little Apple trackers
you see them joints. Oh yeah, your tags Apple Mars exactly,
little tags and stuff, Stitch them into your book bag
and all that kind of shit. And yo, here's my thing, man,

(16:48):
I get the use of it, you know, I get it.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
I'm in a kind of a tough neighborhood and I
just bought myself an electric bike that weighs one hundred
pounds and I don't want to be bringing it in
out of my building. So I'm going to change this
ship up put an Apple tag on it in case
someone snaps my chain and steals my ship.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I mean to me that those are done like a
lot of that. So it was a cool concept for
like when you're traveling in the airport for lost luggage
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I mean, you know, but you know, there's I think
with technology and any invention, right, it's like there's a
good side and the you know, good use and bad
use of something, you know what I mean, I get
you know, the intention, Like, you know, I forget where
I read, but it was something with a woman that
had a husband. When did I read that? Where basically

(17:40):
her husband you know, he was I guess dementia. I
don't know what he had, but he would just straight
up sometimes walk out of his house and just take off.
So they presented her with the opportunity to you know,
put some type of tracking device of the beast. Mean,

(18:00):
but in all fairness, she never lost him again.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
She fucking she put an Apple air tag inside his
skin brow.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Well, you know what, That's what I'm trying to get at.
It's literally that you know, I understand how it can
be used in a good way or good and I
understand how you can use it like an asshole. But
the reality is is, you know, you know, we're way
beyond all that shit, man, I mean, straight up, this
this thing keeps track of you. Ever just park your
car and it says your phone says you just parked

(18:31):
at this spot.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Blah blah blah. You don't see that. No, No, no,
I haven't. They haven't got me yet with that Google.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I'm not sure, man. But yeah, here's what I have
to say. It's like, you know, what. I don't give
a shit. I don't have none to I don't care.
Yes to me, seriously, check this out. If they tracked
me and they're like, we got you, cut you red handed,
I'd be like what They'd be like, you are always
at your job working your ass off because I don't

(18:58):
do anything fuck it else?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know what I mean? You need to know why
doing this?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
No, not even this, Like we know you're absolutely a
regular hard working American. Your life has gotten a bit bored.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
We're gonna stop tracking it for a while.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Son. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, I live.
You know, I go to work, chill with the kiddos,
make music, occasionally, make some videos, and ship. But yeah,
I got nothing fucking hides. Fuck all, fuck everybody?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did you did you catch the latest Necro video? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'll be honest with you, man, I haven't kept up
with Necro for a while.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, I have to praise. I have to. I have
to bow down because I would never know about Necro
unless it was you know, because you showed me the
Necro way. What did I really? Yeah? Yeah, yeah you
said you you were like, yeah, you got it. You
work on when I was working f y. You were like, yeah,
you gotta look for this guy Necro Pheliac. And I'm like,
look like, who's this necrophiliac guy he's talking about? And
I was like Necro and I was like, let me

(20:04):
see if this is what he's talking about. Man, that
was it the I Need drug song, bro, and I
fucking went down the rabbit hole. But you know, Third
Base was just on Drink Champs. They just got back
to that.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I usually I listened to I listened to your podcast
pretty often as of lately, and uh, I listened to
Drink Champs. Depending on who the guest is. To be
honest with you, I'm like, I don't really have interest
in the person. I don't know much about him. It's
hard for me to just listen through it.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I don't. I don't listen to his industry, plant
artists or whatever. Like when I had the Doctor Dray
and Snoop Dogg and Style, I was like, I ain't
listening to that fucking stupid ship. Bring somebody on who
I fucking care about from the back from back in
the day, yo.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
But I did see a clipper fucking murdering some song
on there who likes to hear Dre and.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Snoop, I fuck him too, Bro, Why I just Joe
Dre is a fucking woman beat a number one. Nobody
ever says that. But he beat this ship out of
fucking bitches. You know, let all these pitches out there
liked riding same be y'all bitches, and I'm a fucking
I'm a scumbag. But well, yeah, I didn't. I didn't

(21:08):
know that. I didn't know that he was doing that.
He beat Michelle as he beat his fucking wife. He
smacked around bitches all his life. He fucking smacked Remember
when he did the d Bonds. No, I don't on TV, bro,
he choked the ass up. I don't know about none
of this. And well he apologized for hitting your ladies
out there, bro, But still to me, I'm like, Yo,

(21:29):
doctor Dre is a woman fucking beat her and and
and Snoop Dogg. Bro. I always I always think Snoop
Dogg is Sketches.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
A motherfucker bro, Yo, Man, Sketch is a motherfucker man.
I mean, I'm not saying that it's right for him
to beat some woman. And I don't know what the
situation iso. Honestly, I try.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
To avoid put his hands on bitches. I mean, but yo,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I just found out from you.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know, I didn't know about the D Bond shit
bro in the n W A days Bro, he fucking
yoked the ass up because she said she said something
snick to him or something. That's why Eminem in that
fucking song. You know, remember what you did with D Bonds.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I remember that line for sure. I guess allright, boom
there you go, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
But I mean, man, I guess you know people started
being doctor Dre Snoop Dogg. But I mean, I'm plans, bro.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I don't know, man, I feel like, yeah, it sucks
when you find out something terrible about it.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
It is true, his name is right, he's not even
a real doctor, not even a real doctor, bro.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
But what I was trying to say is it sucks
when you find out something personal about an artist. When
you do, you know, you can't discredit. This is great
music wise, right, it's great. I just don't care for
you to talk. Yeah, well you know, and that's the thing, man,
you know that that's that's again the media. Man, It's

(22:56):
like you don't know what the situations are. I'm not
saying again, it's right. Yeah, I just feel like it
ruins I don't know, obviously taints you know that artist,
you know in a way that you're like, yo, man,
fuck doctor Drake, you know what I mean. But they
still murdered it, you know, just removing all of that

(23:20):
and just listening. I saw this clip of them just
it was a dope ass drabat and they were fucking murdering.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, Drake comes out and goes and a Snoop Dogg.
You know, it's just a Snoop down number. You know,
they do that thing and they got there.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
What it is though, Man, every you know, those guys
come from like a time where like everyone had their
own thing going on, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
What I mean, So everybody had their own flavor of
fucking sprinkles on the ice cream.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, So so I can't discredit those guys. Man, it
sucks that he's being women. Don't do that ship again,
doctor dre If you're listening Snoop Dogg, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Snoop don't beat bitches. He just beats blunts. But like
I was saying, fucking third Base just got back together
and they're on drink Champs and ship Bro and Necro
just dropped the video today talking about the episode and stuff,
because Necko's been dropping a lot of videos about the
history of the Boom BAP and this and that, and
he's like.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I was hoping he was gonna announce a podcast, Joe.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think he's I think I think Neckro would probably
do one if somebody was fucking working the behind the
scenes fan Brocus he's he's too much with the making
the albums and ship bro He's focused on that. But
you put a micropront of him in a camera, he
says a lot of valid shit.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Man. He makes a lot a good point about like
that whole as he calls it the fat beat. Aaron.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
If you if you watch the episode of Drink Champs,
which with Third Base on it, right, you see how
how when they're talking about white rappers and stuff like that.
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
I didn't watch the whole thing. I just I usually
listen to and thro from work. I haven't gotten far
into it.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But go ahead, when they start talking about the white
rapper situation and this and that and and and fucking
search glosses over fucking non fiction saying how all they
wanted to just be the Ramones of hip hop, they
didn't want to be famous. And then fucking neckros like
that's fucking bullshit. You didn't even fucking say how when

(25:15):
they got their deal with how.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Did how did not fiction come up?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Because they were just talking about white rappers in general?

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Oh copy that, yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
And then fucking necros like, yo, that's some straight bullshit.
He's like, they wanted to be the Ramones of hip hop.
He's like, nah, motherfucker, why don't you say when they
got to deal with Geffen you fucked them over and
robbed them in their money and fucked them over and
stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
I mean, I don't know these people personally like that,
and like, but I've heard a lot of negative stuff
about MC search. I mean, but again, you know, it's
all it's all business, and you know, so I can't.
I don't like to speak on ship like that. And
you know, they all have their history, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
But he's got a fucking he's got a fucking grimy
history though, man, oh Search. Yeah, And then that's the
netro is like, that's why your fucking band probably never
fucking worked out because you keep talking over my man
Pete nice too, if you watch the interview. Beyo, Search
is just like you could tell. It's like, Yo, you
need to fucking take some riddling or something.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Let Pete speak a little bit, bro, because speech's just
like soft spoken, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I just feel like he's one of those personalities. Man,
he's a lot like he's like.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
He's a human pogo stick.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
He's like he's fucking everywhere. Bro. It's like, Yo, chill,
sir chill.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, I mean it is what it is, man, I
can't even know. But non fiction undeniably, Man, he said.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
It wasn't he said because the Search. Bro took them
seven years to get a fucking another record deal because
it fucked him over. But on on what record? For
their first record? Nonfiction? It took them seven years they
were supposed to be on geffing.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
We're talking about to release The Future is now, to
release their first album.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So they're gonna drop that album. They were gonna drop
that on Geffen. I mean major.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Fuck them, you know what I mean. I'm talking about Geffen.
Theydn't deserved that project, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Oh no, it wasn't Geffen's fault. Search fucked them all.
The Search took the fucking They don't know how they
give you that upfront money. Yeah, they said Search took that,
gave them a couple of grand and then used the
rest of it to bias fucking house. Wow. Damn uh.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
There's there's a lot of shit that I've heard, but
I feel like it didn't keep hip hop heads from
loving nonfiction, you know what I mean. I mean, granted,
I feel like it's such, but I feel like those guys,
you know, they found their their footing. Obviously they have
a crazy fan base. Independent, you know, I'm sure they

(27:55):
get more out of what they sell, hopefully. I don't
really know they're politics or whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
But oh like, like Sirt said, they're the Ramones of
hip hop. They want to be see the Ramones because
the Ramones were just they were just road dogs. I
don't know, they just they didn't make any money on sales.
They just road dogs. Bro, just show show show show
you making money on your T shirts.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Again, you know, every every real hip hop had.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I know isn't ever not gonna you know, not know
who nonfiction is.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, those guys are.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Awesome, and more importantly, I mean, they ain't just that
first album that dropped tons of ship. That has been
fucking awesome as ship.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
They no, I had, well, I had a chance to
see them over here, that did you all? Bell was
playing fucking Carney, he played, he played over here at all.
He played for Gutter christ Uh Productions, and he was
he was right down the block from where I used
to live, playing down the block.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I've come across the gutter cry and then I recognize
who was running that. Yeah, And I was like, holy ship,
it's this fucking.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Dude, fucking arrowpac motherfucker. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Man, I was like, that's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Man. Also, they had to I could have seen him.
I didn't go. Man, they had the already the rugged
man over there fucking Midland Avenue and CARNI is that recent?
This is you know already rugman. I was just there
a couple of months ago.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Oh dope. Yeah, he's he's funny. A lot of people
either love him or just don't like him, you know.
I guess that's you know, well, remember you remember Crustified Dibbs.
That's you know what, that's fucking old man. That's way back,
and you know he's been dope from day one.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I listened to his interviews, bro, and he's just like Yoh,
He's like, Yo, you know I was, I was fucking
and I was you know, I was, you know, fucking
just you know I was me back then. Bro. You
know you fucking said something wrong. You don't fuck you, bro.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean he was definitely, Uh he was a rapping
ass rapper.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Still rapping like a motherfucker. Man. Yo, I wanted to
know this man about you. Bro, How the fuck should
you go to the Aurora Borealis?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
How the fuck's syringe Hudson County hanging out with Kulu
and choking. All the boys end up fucking snapping pictures
at the Aurora Borealis. So look cold too, I tell
you that, look fucking cold, Bro.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
I'll paint a picture. So I find out that I'm going, uh,
like three months before I was actually gonna go some
shit like that. They're like, Yo, you never got this
trip coming up, you know. Uh. My job basically provides trips, excursions,

(31:04):
you know, photographic experiences for.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
When you say excursions, it's like, yo, come at your
own fucking risk. It sounds like it's just like yo,
we're out there.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
You know, there's a plan in place, you know what
I mean, You're going out there with like determined to
get what these people are saying. They're gonna provide you
with like an opportunity to shoot something out of the
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
When when when he asked me, I'm like, yeah, man,
whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
What did you kind of the say? Did he walk
in yo yo yo? Not se yo yo yo? Chris yo,
Chris yo? You want to go to the Aurora Boreality?
What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (31:45):
First of all was Norway, Norway?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah? I went to Norway Viking Territory copy that, uh.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
And basically what happened was is they wanted so they
already had sold the experience.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Right Christian you want to go shoot four?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
So they basically they had it already pretty much sold out,
but they never have had content to promote it. And
that's what I do, right, I created content to promote things.
So they were like, if we send you then you
can make you know, we can capture video footage so
we can make ads for the future. And I'm like, yeah,

(32:25):
sign me up. If that's what we need, then send me.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Not realizing you're going on with a fucking Norway. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, listen, I didn't even I'm in the middle of ship.
My boss is like, Yo, come upstairs, cause you know
this trip till over there. We're gonna shoot the Northern
Lights and this and the other thing. You know, we're
thinking about sending you would be a good idea. And
I'm like, yeah, yeah, cool, yeah, sign me up. Yeah cool, yeah,
let's talk about it later. And I walk out, you know,
and uh then it hits me, like a few days later,

(32:53):
I'm like, hold up, I just signed up to go
to fucking nor I don't know shit about Norway, right,
I just don't. So I do some research and you know,
you start looking into the Northern Lights and ship and
how what.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Are you eating? Like raw polar bears or something?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
And you know, bro, I fucking I. I go on
the trip. I had to buy all sorts of gear.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
How How long do you gotta be on the plane?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
It wasn't that I want to say it was like
seven and a half eight hours or something.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
It's not that. It's not that bad, Okay, all right,
at least the way.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I remember it, I'm pretty sure it was about seven
and a half to eight hours.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's a long for that's a shift. Dog.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I mean, it's rough for sure. And then on the
way I don't know that we had I might have
had a second flight over there, but YO, check it.
So you know, I bought all sorts of like you know,
shells which goes over your cold to block the wind.
You know, old gators and thick ass hats and gloves,

(33:54):
man fucking hand warmers, tod warmers like you know you're
going to Norse where you gotta be ready for this,
shi and yo. So when we land, I landed in Trumpso, Norway,
and over there. You know, the plane lands, you walk
out onto the tarmac.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Okay, he wait what you don't walk into an airpoint.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Well, this particular plane that I took, you walk right
out onto the tarmac. I don't know if they have.
My experience was walking right out to the tarmac.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
But you know you fly on the on the flight over,
you're looking down and all you're seeing is unreal ship.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yo. Flat you see some flat earth theory stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Nah, it looks like Star Wars. Everywhere you look, it
looks like another planet. Bro. Legitimately, it gives you chills.
I got I got video footage from and photos from
the plane because the terrain just kept changing. It was like, Yo,
what the fuck? And then you're literally just flying over
at one point what you look as if God forbids

(34:56):
something should happen over these waters. I'm gonna be fucked.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Like you're just in joe Was Territory.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
It's just ice and it just fucking ice.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
It's fucking Norway, Bro, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I've never been to Thorn Country dog Rick Sudden. Yo,
it's a check it.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I get there, I get out of the plane and
because I'm coming from Jersey and it is this where
is from? No, she's from Iceland, Okay, okay, okay. I
had like my sweater, I had like a thin jacket,
some pants. I'm like, oh, I'll change and get ready.
When I get to the hotel, Bro. I get out,

(35:34):
they open the fucking door.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I just yo.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I feel the coldest air ever coming into the plane.
I'm like, Yo, man, what the I fucking zip my
ship up, put my hood on.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I walk out of this fucking plane and instantly was
like I just instantly started freezing, Bro, Like literally your hands,
everything just starts to freeze like that.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Damn. That's probably what early in the morning or at nighttime.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I got there, like maybe it was cold as fuck, Yo,
it was legitimately.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Good light out still the sun is even cold.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Well yo, it's just like Yo, it's like it's a
tough experience, YO. But check it. That's not even the
crazy part. We finally go and get to the hotel,
check in, get our gear ready, and on the first
day that you're there, you're going out to shoot lights.
So when you get there, they brief you more because
you know they they send you emails, they have meetings

(36:32):
and shit that you know how it's gonna all go.
Don't follow crumpus, yo, bro, We fucking get ready and legit,
we get out of the hotel six o'clock. The objective
is to be at the location at sundown, because you
know your activity at night is what you want. You

(36:54):
gotta be away from lights, like you can't be around
like light pollution.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
It sounds like a vampire flick about the happy to
kill lights. But I kid you not.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
We start driving and I had all my winter shiit on,
and you know, my first day going out there double pants.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
What kind of boots did you have, bro?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I bought these Adidas. I don't even know the names
of them. But their Didas makes boots, yo, they make
like water proof flights. No ship, Yeah, these ships are legit.
I mean you were going to Norway. Yo. The way
I was seeing is that if I'm cold, I'm not
going to be able to shoot and I'm not going
to enjoy myself. So I got to set myself up
the beasts at least to be able to hang. But Yo,

(37:39):
the funny ship is so so check it. So we
go in this van and we're driving and over there
in Norway. The roads they don't they don't scrape them
down to the to the concrete, they don't drop salt.
They basically flatten it out to like a sheet of ice.
Because all the trucks out there have spikes. Oh sure,

(38:01):
if you tear it down to concrete, then you ruin
the spikes. So they leave like a layer of snow
and ice on top of all the roads.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
But because they got spikes, these I got it. I'm
telling you, I got it all on video. I'll show
you one day.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Because you tell me the wheels of the cars or
the trucks have spikes on them. Yo.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Literally, you buy the tires like regular from the manufacturer
and they have like the other tiny like little tiny spikes,
but it's all over the tires like cleats like in rows.
Not even that big. They're just like tiny little metal nubs.
Oh but yo, because of the weight and because of
the way they distributed through the tire and the amount
of snow they try to leave on the ground, it

(38:40):
grabs it. It has crazy traction, to say the So
the guy tells us, Yo, it's gonna be about thirty
minutes till we get twenty to thirty minutes till we
get to the shooting location. And I'm like, oh, that
ain't shit cool. So I underst my coat. I took
off my coat like in my seat, and I left
all my shit on. Said fuck it, I'll just wait

(39:01):
till we get there. Twenty thirty minutes. Your body starts
acclimating to the temperature of your body right, like of
what you're wearing, right, So you start kind of feeling like.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
You're getting cold right now, man, bro.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
But so my body gets used to the heat like that,
you know. And then every time we got to a location,
they check for the for the lights, they look out,
do some photo tests. Now they're not here, and there's
a whole network of these dudes. So they'll call the
other guy. Hey, listen, we're over here where you guys
at yo, We're over here. Blah blah blah blah blah.
You see any lights?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
All right, cool man? Check in with this guy. I
think he saw him over here. So now I'm in
wha wait, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
So?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
What are they just popping up a certain locations?

Speaker 4 (39:46):
So, I mean, there's just so many details. So basically
what happens is our photography team, right in this case,
it was this guy named Timu and my boy Mike
that both one of them is an astro photographer and
the other ones just want to a photographer like instructor
at my job, they're the photographic instructors, right. But then

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we want to guarantee the people that are going the
opportunity to see lights. The company that we work with
contacts tour guides that know great places to shoot the
northern lights and how to find them, you know, because
it's tricky.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's a whole process, bro.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
These motherfuckers Rainbow because to the naked eye, the northern
lights don't look that vibrant green and purple. But you know,
they look like a ghostly cloud from It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
It's so it's a real spiritual place, I'll tell you
that much. It's like nature's literally saying I'm more powerful
than you everywhere you go in Norway straight up.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
But so we meet up with these tour guides that
you know, they know how to find the lights, and
this one guy, bro, this Marius, was so determined. By
the time we were done, we were about three hours
away about to go into Finland, Finland, and he's like, yeah,

(41:13):
just so you guys know, we're possibly gonna cross over
into Finland. And I'm like, yo, hold on, what do
you mean I didn't bring my passport.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I'm like, I'm supposed to be in Norway. He's like, now,
they don't really check.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
We worry about America. You're right.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
My American ass is like, I'm not getting stuck in Finland,
you know. Anyway, But before we even get get to Finland,
one of the other guys is like, we saw them
over here. You should go to this GPS coordinates or whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
And we follow that. True story.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Bro. First of all, we pull into like this open
field right and it's off the side of a road.
But it's just a vast open field, and you know,
all you can see is were the lights of them
of the tour bus is pointing around you literally pitch black, yo,

(42:06):
But your eye is fucking with you because it's looking
at light, your pupils, you know. All that stuff starts
to affect the situation.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
So we're in the van and they're like, all right, guys,
it is the location. Everybody grabbed the gear. We're gonna
go outside, set up shop. We're gonna see some lights tonight.
I'm like, fucking ain't. Let's go fucking heights.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
What the fucking northern lights? Right? I'm ready for Look
at my gear. Son, got all this.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Fucking teddy bear out there?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Please tell me do it?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yo, I'm saying, I got all this fucking crazy ass
dope gear on, like ready for the snow. I was
just like, yo, I'm built for this right now. But again,
I was in the van for yet with all the
heat from all that gear, I should have took it
off so my body can adjust to the colder weather. Bro,

(42:58):
I kid you not. I fu can get out of
that fucking the tour bus and one starts setting up
their tripods right away. That's the first thing you gotta do.
And I kid you not. I put my tripod down,
and in two seconds I was like this. I was like, yo,
I could not stop shaking. Bro. I'm literally like, yo,

(43:21):
what the Because I was so hot, my sweat inside
my body just got cold, and I started feeling like
I was about to have some old hypothermic shit happened
to me. So I tell the guy Marius. He's like, oh,
that's not good man. Go in the van and put

(43:42):
warmers in your pockets. Your temperatures too high. You got
to keep it high now. So I going up put
them in my coats and my gloves and my fucking
and my pockets. Like wherever I had a pocket, I
pretty much put one just to kind of keep my
temperature higher. Now. But Yo, the crazy ship is the

(44:03):
Northern lights is they look like wispy gray, ghostly clouds
and they almost come out of nowhere. So the whole time,
if you can imagine, right, like I felt like I
kid you not, like I was in I was like
in a Star Wars episode, like it's unrecognizable land, like
in the most vast way, y'all. It went the hawk, bro, Bro,

(44:25):
it's so ill many know on some real shit. It
was such a spiritual situation over there. It was multiple
times I would just walk away in the middle of
nowhere and just start crying, just start tearing up, yore, honestly,
And I'll tell you why. I almost wish you were there.
I wish all my homies were there, y'all. I wish
my whole family was there. Everybody could see that. How

(44:47):
crazy incredible? That shit is crazy, man, It's it's you know,
it was.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Another thing is that, you know, the northern lights can
be so big? Did I ever show you the video?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I I only think I saw your pictures.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
No, I'll send you the video link so you can
actually watch the footage of it. I did these time
lapses of of the actual uh you know lights.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
You know. Uh, it's just not a constant just there.
It's just like pops up goes away, pops up goes.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Well, you know, like again, you know, to the naked eye,
when you look at them, you could tell they're different
than a cloud. But if you if you're not if
you're not educated in the way we were before we went,
you would probably think it was a cloud. And you'd
miss it. Yo, true story where in the it's maybe
our last day or second to last day in Trumpso

(45:41):
before we went to this place called the lafoutin Islands
and we're there on the side of a road and
it was a real sketchy spot because it was really
icy and we were next to a bridge, and Homeboy.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Just had us pull the two.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Tour buses like on the side of the road, like
like like the nature's hood. Yeah. Yeah, it was just
it was just it didn't feel like cars can get
by so easily, and there was like trucks and stuff
that were whiszen by like a mountain or something. I mean,
you know, first of all, there's mountains pretty much all
around you there. Wherever you look, there's some type of

(46:18):
mountain range and ship once you go out, you know,
but what it is, it's just like yo, unforgiving land
for as far as I could see left to right.
Fucking it's just.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Crazy, bro. It looks y know. We we were on
this peak one night.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
And we come off for you know, you come out
of the you come out of the tour bus and
it's so dark there that the first thing your eyes
are gonna do is they're gonna see nothing. It's just black. Right,
You're like, oh shit, So your eyes start kind of
tripping trying to open. You know, the pupils are trying
to open so they can see you put on your headlamp.
Your headlamp now sees this bright white light reflecting off

(46:57):
the snow. Again, makes your pupils get tight. Then you
start fixing your camera, setting up your time lapses, setting
up yourt you know, for your photos and all that,
get your focus and all that. And then finally they're like,
all right, everybody's ready to shoot. Yeah, we're ready to shoot.
Kill your lamps, and you kill your lamps, and fucking
all you see this whole time, all you've been seeing

(47:17):
is where the lamp has been. You haven't even seen
the landscape because where your eyes, where the light is shining.
You're looking at your camera, you're looking at your tripod.
You haven't even had a chance to see the vastness
of where you are. And they're like, all right, everybody
lamps off. Everybody shuts their lamps off at the same time. Again,

(47:38):
you're back to seeing black momentarily, and then your eyes
start to fucking adjust, bro, and I literally was like,
holy shit, Yo, it was like two pretty big mountains
left and right, this fucking valley with this just giant field. Yo,

(47:58):
snow as far as the eye could see. It was
fucking so dope. And we're just sitting out there in
the freezing cold. All right now, we just gotta wait
and we're like, oh ship wait, yep, we gotta wait
for for a solar flare to happen. Because what it
is is the solar flare from the Sun sends solar energy.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
To the Earth.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I mean, I'm maybe fucking this up a little bit,
but the solar energy, that's why we have our what
is our iono sphere and our atmosphere. It protects us
from all those solar the radiation and everything comes from exactly.
But Yo, that's what the Northern lights are.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Radiation.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
It's basically the way I described it. Because Yo, I
got real deep with this dude, Marius. He was like
a really smart He left his he was like a chemist.
He left his whole life and thing over there is illegal.
Yeah I had ship out there, oh shit, but yo,
he he left his He came there on vacation, went

(49:10):
back home, packed his ship up, moved back to Norway
with some homie and just said, I'm gonna shoot the
Northern Lights every day. And he's been shooting it. Well
now it's it would be eight years that he's been
shooting the Northern Lights every single He's just an ill dude.
But anyway, we were chopping it up and basically what
I told him is the Northern Lights is the visual

(49:32):
representation of Mother Earth projecting you from the Sun. It's
literally what it is. It's literally Earth fighting off those
that radiations. It's saving your life basically, and the outcome
of that protection is the Northern Lights.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
So you're taking picture of death coming to you and
getting blocked.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Nah. I see it the other way. I was taking
pictures of Mother Mother Earth, saying, now out of here,
solar flares fucking with my kids. I got trees down here,
little raccoons and fucking human beings, and shit, you're about
to try to kill us with a solar flare. She's like, nah,
hold me, and then she makes a beautiful display of

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it and I get to take a picture of it.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Oh my god, yo.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But another thing is that that's a good Yeah, that's
what it is, yo, That's literally what it is.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And then for a city boy.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I've been to like South Jersey, I've been down the
shore and be like, well, look at all these stars. Well,
this shit is sick. Go to Norway. You'll literally look
up and be like, Yo, where the fuck is the
millennium falcon?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
This straight up? Yo, I'm dead ass serious, bro. You
will not believe how many stars there's in the sky.
I never seen that many satellites in my life either.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Y'all. Was literally like yo, U are foh.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Aliens bro on multiple occasions while we were there. I
just look up and be like, yo, guys, look straight
up UFO, And they were all satellites. But because we
don't see him out here like that, that's a lie.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I saw a satellite.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
On sun up in my backyard. So what happens is
as the sun peaks over the Earth and the sunlight's
going across this way, so if you catch it at
the right angle, what winds up happening is the satellite
will go by and because the sun is just peeping through,
it'll create a glare that you can see. And that's

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what you're actually seeing. You're seeing that glare from the
sun reflecting off the metal plates from that satellite.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
So it's not a UFO.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yo, it's not yo. And it's funny because that guy,
the guy I was with, he's an astrologist or whatever,
and I'm sorry, he's an astro photographer, is what he is.
And he's like, Bro, it's a fucking satellite. And I'm like, nah, Bro,
that's a UFO. He's like, no, seriously, Bro, it's a
fucking satellite.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
YO.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Five minutes later, I'll be like, yo, there's another one.
He goes, yeah, another satellite.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
He was getting annoyed. I'm chair yo.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
But imagine you out there and you're literally looking like
Star Wars and you're like, yo, is that a fucking
tie fighter upt there?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
You know what the fuck is that? Bro? You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
You start, you start, all this stuff starts playing with
you out there, and you know the thing is, you're
not You're not moving out there, your tripods in place.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I was doing time lapses.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
So when my camera starts shooting, all I gotta do
is make sure that no one touches it and that
it keeps shooting because it's taking a fit. Yes, it's
taking a picture every eight seconds. And then I stitch
it together and I turn it into a video. I'll
send you the stuff. It'll blow your mind.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Let me ask you this, man, you see any weird
fucking animals out there you've never seen before?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Uh? Animals like then.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Like like fucking like some fucking twenty foot polar bear
or some shit, or I didn't see it where I was.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
There's there's no polar bears, no life, bro. I don't
think you understand.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
So Norway is as dry as any desert, so you
know nothing grows there, No, no, bro, nothing grows there.
Mostly everything is an import to Norway.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yo. That's why it's so ill. Bro.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Imagine we talked about this, we.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Go to live there exactly.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Imagine you're this guy that's just like in this case
of Viking, me going to find my own land. I
will take my boat and go and then you go
and you just freaking sore in the seas and you
pull up the Norway, Yo. Not a fucking spec of

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anything in sight. No, directly yo, it's just snow right.
I mean, while I'm lying in the summertime, Norway can
get pretty sunny, it gets pretty warm, and their their mountains.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Grow like wildflowers.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
All over them. But there isn't there's not enough time wildflowers.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Man, it's not just don't grow, bro. The main the
main meat out there. I believe what'd you eat out there? Bro? Like? Bro,
they got Taco Bell out in Norway, and I mean
that's good.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
I don't think I saw a Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
No fast food ship.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I mean not where we were for the Norway fast
food got little restaurants and stuff. But over there fishes banging, obviously,
But Yo, I have reindeer out there.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Reindeer.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Bromby was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
You had Bamby had Bamby. I mean, I don't know
about Bambi.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
That's kind of motherfucker's Bamby. Bro.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
I would hope at least it's a full groom Bambi.
I mean, Yo, I'm not a very adventurous person with
food like here at home, But whenever I go somewhere,
I'm like, I gotta try, you know, be respectful.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
What does that mean? It tastes like it tastes like
so yo.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
What it really comes down to It it comes down
to preparation, right. I'm sure that if I just went
and got myself a hunk of reindeer. Me and I
might go home and make it and it might not
be so good when I make it. You have somebody
that specializes in making reindeer, and that's like the part
of the culture. Like these people have figured it out,
you know. But the reindeer was smacking. But what was

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the bangingest thing I'm not gonna say I've ever had,
but close to it was I had.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Moose Moose, moose. Bro You know how big those motherfucking
things are?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
You know how you know how latino? Well, I'm not
gonna say Latino. Well, I know in my upbringing. You
ever seen like when people make the diced cubes of
steak of beef and then they put sometimes they'll put
it in there with like potatoes and stuff. They'll make
it a part of it. He put it on rice,
you put on whatever you want. That's what it kind

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of looked like. But you know, it was a pretty
not gonna front. It was like part of our trip.
So it was probably one of the more fancier restaurants
we went to out.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Did you did you eat this? Like meet with like
like rice or pasta or check it? I won't break
it down.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
So the guy comes over and he breaks down the
menu real quick for us.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And he didn't fucking do the old Hamburger French fried
American joke. No he did not, he didn't, but he did.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
He was he was quick to just basically point out
the majority of what they thought maybe we'd be interested, chicken,
so on and so forth, whatever it was. But when
he walked over to our table, I was there with myself,
one of my colleagues, and two of our guests that
were just now are now friends. But we're all sitting,

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all four of us. The guy walks over and and
I know, I'm ladies first with it, you know. And
they're like, oh, we're gonna order this. We're gonna order
that typical American choices. You know. I'll have the whatever
fish and I'll have the chicken. So me and my boy,
which the guy I'm with, he's a photographer, but he's

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a retired.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Marine, so he's eating craziest shit than anything.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
He's just a very adventurous person. He's like probably one
of the nicest, coolest people I ever met. He's an
older man. He's sixty seven years old. He looks like
he's fucking forty five, you know, he's just jacked and.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Just he's seen the bush. He was in the bush.
He is the bush.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
He's just the real deal. But the waiter comes up,
he's like, what are you guys gonna have? And we're like, well,
you know, what are the locals happened?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
You know?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
And he's like, oh yeah, and we're like, yeah, what
are the locals happen? So he's like, well, if you
want to eat at the locals, and if you were
in my like in my shoes, or if you were me,
I would go with the moose. I'm like, all right,
moose it is. I look over to my boy Mike.
Mike's like, I guess.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
We're having moose.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Then the girls that just ordered they're now like I
think we'd like to try the moose too, So we're like,
everybody order the moose, right, So we're all laughing about it.
And then he was like, well, what type of wine
would you like? And my boy Mike's like, you know,
I don't really drink on the job, like you know,
I'm here with these guests or whatever. He was like, yeah,

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I understand. He was like, but you have to have
it with wine.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
You have to yo.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
He's like you have to, and you know right away
we're can I ask why, like why it's just so
complimentary to it. You don't have to get drunk just
you have little SIPs with it. It's just gonna enhance
the flavor. So since you put it that way, yeah cool,
We'll take whatever the wine was, some red wine.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
They come back and they fucking serve it up on
a pretty deep serving of beat Pure, which I'm not
even crazy about beats. Beats. It's like beet pure if
you can imagine, just like almost like a really soft mashed.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Potato made out of beats.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
It's like soft like that some like red potatoes, like
roasted potatoes. Then they had like I don't know, I
want to say it was like am I saying asparagus maybe?
And then the beef cubes, which are fucking huge, Joe.

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I mean, they're like, you know, beides of the moose,
and they have like maybe six or seven I don't
know pieces in there. If you play and dudes like
here you guys go, it smelled banging right off the rip.
I was like, Yo, this smells banging chop in there.
And what he told us to do was take a

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little bit of the meat, dipping in the puree, put
on like whatever asparagus or piece of that on there,
take a bite and then take a swig of the
of the wine and kind of let it all mix
in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Bro Bro bro bruh. True story though Twister.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
You ever seen Twister?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
No? But I know the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Never seen fucking Twister.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Bro, I'm not into fucking looking at storms, bro from
back in the day Twister, I know, I'm just watching
a fucking whirlwind, fucking twister, fucking accident.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Bro r I p Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
He was just a cool dude anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
But there's a scene in that movie where they're having
breakfast and they're all there at my Man's house and
all the freaking people that are talking about twisters and
their experiences, and they're all chilling, and nowhere there's a twister.
So the guy's like, yo, we got and everybody took
off running, jump in their cars and go chase the storm.
So Norway is very similar. These things will blow up

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out of nowhere, and we're for tipographers. We were there
fourteen and everybody's so we're having dinner and the guy,
our tour guy actually wasn't Marius. It may have not been.
It may have been another tour guy. But we're sitting
there having dinner and he's like, I think I see lights.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Mind you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I'm like one cube from being done, ready to ask
for another plate. It was so good, and uh, I'm
like tearing it up. And I see the dude dip out.
He goes out the back door, and I'll see him
through my window. I'm sitting by a window and I
see him look up. He takes a picture and he
comes running back in the fucking restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Mind you. There's people there, and he's like, we gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Everybody packs. He's running to pay the bill. Fucking Everybody's
like what, everybody's go get to the So we get
to the vans. Luckily for us, we were literally on
the other side of a bridge. Northern lights were blowing
up right over the restaurant, which is at the end
of the bridge. So what the tour guides did is
they we all jumped in the band's room.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Well, he go outside, the smoke a cigarette, look up
in the sky and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Goes, no, no, those guys are looking for him all day.
So while we were there, he was out there looking
for him, just in case, and in this case, we
saw him and they were big, like literally was coming
over the whole back of the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
So he's like, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
So we freaking bounced. Mind you, we only had another
hour and a half to be in the restaurant and
then we had a bounce to get ready to go
to the Lafaux Islands the last day in trumps.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
So damn you got an hour and a half left
to eat bro exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
We could have chilled for another hour and a half
before we had a bounce. So yo, we fucking buck
fifty over the bridge and get to the other side
of the bridge. Because these guys are always thinking photographically,
so they're like, yo, let's just go to the other
side of the bridge and we'll shoot the bridge and
the shot with the northern lights the idea. So we

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went to the other side. Everybody jumps out bad quick.
Everyone instantly walks off to the right because they were
trying to get like a side profile of the bridge.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I was like, man, fuck that, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
I walked towards the bridge and I get right on
the side of the bridge where the bridge is kind
of like in the forefront of my shop. You kind
of see it like kind of fading off in the
distance and shit, yo, bro again, I'll send you a
link so you can watch the time lapses.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
But literally you watch them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Lights blow up that shit cover the whole fucking sky yo,
And they would like, you know, sometimes they say they're dancing, yeah,
because they have more movement, so like when you're watching
them fast forward, these things are like whipping through the
air as opposed to just slowly floating by. You know,
they were like fucking crazy. And then I had cars
driving into my time and she looks sick as shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Let me ask you this, man, what are the people
in the restaurant look at you guys when the guy
came running and go we god lah right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
You know, it's funny because we actually were talking about
I wonder if we scared anybody. But what I will
say is not one motherfucker in they're flinched, Not the
owner of the restaurant, not the waiters, not the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
People these Americans go crazy for lights because.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
What I'm what we were saying joking around is people
probably have done that before at some point in time,
because everywhere you go, yo, you know, as far as
like the tour. Oh what I was trying to say
before was on the day we were on the side
of I told you it was a sketchy spot and
then if you know how to see the lights, you'll
miss them. So we're out there and out of nowhere

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we see this like electric beamer pull up next to
us and out comes this I'm just gonna say, like
a really good looking couple. Handsome dude, well dressed, beautiful, tall,
model looking type woman. You know, they were all wearing
their they're warm clothes, but they came out of a beamer.
You could tell they had money. They start walking over

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and they're just looking like what are they doing? There's
like fourteen people out here with cameras, like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
A billionaire's first date maybe, but you could.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Just see them looking at like, yo, what are they
fucking looking at? Where are they? You know? What are
they taking pictures of?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Mind you there is a really dope mountain in front
of us. But finally I hear the guy talking in
Spanish and I kind of felt bad. I'm like, well,
maybe they just lost in translation out here. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
noth not to edit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Dude's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah, all of a sudden, dudes breaking it down, dudes
from Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Of all places, Puerto Rico's in Finland, in Norway. Besides
you is another Puerto Rican over there, another Puerto Rican
and Puerto Rican. Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
But what makes it funny is is he tells me
he has two more nights there. He goes, I've been
here for over a week, and he was like, we
go out every day, we drive around, we don't see
the lights. We don't see the lights, and I'm like, bro,
they're right there. And he looks up and he doesn't
get it. He's like, but I don't like where. And

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I'm like, dude, that whole thing right that's on northern lights.
I'm gonna come over here. So I bring him over
to my camera. And every time my camera takes a picture,
you see the image in the back. So he fight,
you know, his eyes blew up because he was like, oh,
he freaked the hell out. So I take his cell phone.
I said, look, man, put it on ten seconds. You know,

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could do about ten second exposure. I said, hold your
camera still and press that button. So he takes his
cell phone and he points it up and he holds
it for ten seconds and takes a picture and when
the picture exposes, the fucking sky is green, and he's like,
holy shit, I blew his fucking mind. So then I
took pictures of him and his wife so they can

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at least have a memory of actually seeing and shit.
And then I told him, I said, you know, you
should have got a tour guide, and he's like, Bro,
I spent so much money coming here, like hotels. You know,
we've been traveling. We stood in some fucking cabin and
some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
You might be a patron saint in Puerto Rico. Now like, Yo, man,
I met this guy in Norway from Puerto Rico and
even the lights. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
But the thing is, I will say this, how do
you take a trip like like going to Norway? In
that research that, I'll be honest with you, I didn't
know about the how the naked eye sees it, because
you know, there was one night that we went out
there and you could kind of see like a slight
tint of green in there in the cloud itself. Like

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with a naked eye you can almost like kind of
see it. But Yo, when you take a picture, bro,
I'm telling you, it blows your fucking mind.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
We get me. Know, it's like it's like I would
love to know that guy's mind frame because it's like, Yo,
you can just go to Norway when your chick. I
mean they had a week and it was like, eh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
No, they had money, certainly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
That's what I'm saying, bro. So it's like his mind
was just probably like you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Up in like an electric beamer. I mean, she clearly
had money. Their their get up wasn't You could just
tell was expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Like I'm picturing like a fucking I'm picturing like a
polar bear fucking jacket. Yeah he put got the bear's
head on the top.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Oh no, no, not like that. I mean homegirl literally
had like a bubble cold with a big old fur
freaking those Yeah, they they were. They were super well off.
You could just instantly just see it on them, you
know what I mean. They looked like they came from
the sun. They were all tanned and ship. They just
didn't fit in that setting, you know what I mean.
Because Norway everyone's dealing with the cold. One's out there

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looking cute, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I
tell people, it's too cold to be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
You have not the lights was the gas back in
the day. Han't seen that string and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Fam go to Norway. B they got the ill then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
They just shot the northern lights in America, you know,
well you could see them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
You could see them in it wasn't it like a
few months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
It was pretty epic.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Yo, I was mad I missed it, you know, because
it was so powerful. It was like it was like
more of like the magenta, It wasn't the green. It's
so powerful that people actually had pictures of New York
with it in the background, which seems almost impossible. But
it's definitely pretty intense. Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
So after you got the picked, did you do anything
like any like, I don't even want to want to
really says did you need a little night light stuff
anything like out there?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
And he like, you know, no, I'll be honest, it
was just work, you know, but if you want to
call I mean, it wasn't really work, man. It was
like I was trying to experience as much of the fire.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
That was a wee joke.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
No, no, I was. I totally got it that I
was trying to make a joke back saying Norway has
the best northern lights. I don't plenty of northern lights
in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Not with the northern lights though.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
I mean that would have been epic for sure. But yeah,
she was a.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
He got the lights in the Hi there you go?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Who's that? How do you know who you're talking to?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
That's that's Hell's man. He's I met him all Lucky,
that's his name. Another podcast called the Breakroom Breakroom Podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Yo, word, that's awesome. So you you got from the
literally the last time that we were just talking about
right where there was like more of a magenta in
the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
We'll come back to you, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
But yeah, it was just fire, bro. It was a
dope experience. And you know, not for nothing, even being
out there during the day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
What do they do over there for fun? They just drink.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
I guess I wouldn't really know, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
It sounds like they just drink wine or something like.
Did they have any like customize like, you know, beers
for their country or I'll say that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
I think people over there were very serious people, very friendly,
but very serious, not very humorous people. I'm a pretty
easy going, like lighthearted type of person. I try to,
you know, egg more thing, you know, try to be
that they're not too receptive.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Probably good morning. It's fucking negative too. It's so good
about this over here.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Look, I fuck you go back to Maccie fucking fat pig.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Damn. Yo, that's fucked up. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Now, everybody was really nice out there. They're just very
serious people. I mean from from the people I interacted with.
You know, obviously I was a hotel guest and you
know they're trying to be just professional, treat you right.
But for the most part, even people that I met
just kicking it lobby.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
You didn't bubbling at one dude and worked the whole
Yo America, nothing like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Nah, they don't play over there, yo, dam they don't
play with any of that ship cops will fuck your
life up out there for some week. Yeah, their laws
are they're very strict. You ain't going to you know,
they ain't doing titty bars.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I think Snoop Dogg went to one of those countries
over there, bro, and they were like they tested its
blood for weed.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
And they were like, you have way too much blunts
in your blood.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
You can't way.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
When you do coup blunts come out, you are not
allowed in Norway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
That's crazy, man, that's real fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Crazy, bro, so crazy. You know, it's crazy that I
was talking to some like locals. I was actually talking.
I like to get in people's heads, like, you know,
ask questions.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
They actually have.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
An issue with beef having too many tourists come to
Norway because for the longest, Norway's been like this little getaway,
hidden gem type thing covering it. People go out there
all the time. Now you know, it starts congestion and
so on and so forth. But while we're having the

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same conversation, it's me a German dude, mean German Polish,
and a couple other you know people, Americans. We're sitting
chopping it up and my boy comes out of his
face and was like, hold on, so you're trying to

(01:13:19):
tell me the Norwegians have an issue with people coming
to Norway to visit, but yet you guys have cruise
liners Norwegian cruise that takes people literally to every part
everywhere and invade other people's ship and go visit them.
And you know, so it was as funny ass argument.

(01:13:40):
You know, these guys were kind of getting heated about it.
I was just laughing about it. I'm like, that's a
good point, yo.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
You can't top that point. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Yeah, I was like, that's a really strong point that
my man, and you know you can't even keep them
from but you know, obviously the locals are.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Like, fuck you man, will put you your one fucking
your one vers le argument the way in a patty wagon.
Why I give them that accent? I don't know why. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
You know what's a crazy thing too, is yo, when
we were out there, you know, cats from out here
were fucking bundled up electric socks and some of these people,
A couple of the couples there, you know, had some
guap fucking literally every their sweaters, their pants, everything was
like electrically heated battery packs and ship I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Got a question. Was there catching dogs out there? Y'all?

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
I'll be honest with you. I don't feel like I
saw much of anything. I saw seagulls. I did see
some type of critter I don't know, field mouse, a fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Baby rabbit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
I don't know. It was just when I saw the
tracks for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
It, it was like, it sounds like nothing lives there but
those people. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
It's so crazy, I'm telling you, bro, It's literally like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Or is everybody hibernate during the winter.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
And I wish I had fucking shit I could show you.
It's just like yo, because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Every country has their native animal and shit, it's like yo.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
They're like, like, I mean, if it ain't a deer, moose,
I don't know what it is, dude, because I feel
like everywhere I went, you're part of the etiquette when
we went there was if you meet a reindeer like owner,
because over there, you know, because it's it's like one of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
The they own reindeer like dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
They own reindeer like you with chickens, oh shit, you know,
or cows. Right. But one of the things was is
if you like one of those reindeer herders, I don't
know what you want to call them, don't ask them
how many reindeer they own? And I'm like what. And

(01:15:56):
the reason you don't who that is is it's almost
like asking them how much money do they make?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Oh ship, because you can.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Kind of gauge it by each year and do the
math on what they earn. So it's like, you know,
improper to to ask them questions like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
That's pretty odd, man, but you know it does make sense.
I guess, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
It's it's a wild place. Man, it's definitely not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
There's no rain. I was gonna say this. There's not
a lot of reindeer games out there, is there. They're
saying around there's trolls. Yo. I'm just shocked. You haven't
see You didn't see a dog or a cat, not
even in the restaurant. No cat, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
I don't feel like I saw any animal.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Don't even on the street. Now that you're saying it,
you know what, I might have seen one or two dogs,
now that you say that. Yeah, maybe a wolf, like
a little fucking just like a dog. I think I'm
pretty sure that it's just a wild last place, bro.

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If you ever get a chance to go, it's just
be sick. Look and fifty reindeer bawling. Hell yeah, for
sh now, some of these dudes got like thousands of
these fucking things. It's just insane.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I mean, it's probably where the reindeer living. They just
put a fucking gate around and say we own you
now rather raindies.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Is like, Yo, we're tired of pretending, Yo, you don't
fucking old us man, fuck you when they fucking break
the fence down, fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
A revolution, yo, Reindeer Revolution Happened. That's a movie about that.
That's what the moose would do. Bro. You know the moose,
they're fucking like like one fifteen feet fucking tall. Well, shit,
ain't no joke. Bro. When you see a moose in Canada,
they say don't even they say get the fuck out
of there, Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
I mean that's the most like you know herbs would say.
I'd be like, yo, I'm gonna go take a picture
of this fucking moose. I'm not running. Come me a moose.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
They do got they do gotta. If you have you
ever watched those horror movies, uh Win, Need to Pooh
Blood and Honey, like the horror movie version of Winning
the Pooh and stuff like that. No watch went Need
to Pooh Blood and the Honey. They got two of them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
I don't watch horror movies.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I know, I gave up. I was gonna say that
because they got one. They got one for for Bambi
Bamby comes back for venge action type ship. Yeah, live action. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
It's like an actual movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
It's an actual movie. What is it called? Well, the
first well, the one of those is wanting to Pooh
Blood and the Honey. If once you go to that
rabbit hole, you'll see all the other ones. There's one
about Peter Pan. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Man, fuck it, I know I'm good. No, I stopped
watching scary movies. The most will kill you to not
walk the deep snow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
The most, I see what you mean.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
Yeah, because they're trying to avoid walking in the deep snows,
so they'll get on your trails and ship. But you
are I learned. If the moose comes at you, all
you gotta do is go you heard the moon?

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
That's it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Just like that move and then the moose will respond
and be like, yo, what that be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I'm gonna show you something right here. Bro, I know
you're probably never gonna watch it, but.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Share the scream? Now? This is this is fucking that's
it's Winny the Pooh, Tigger and Piglet and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
What the what the hell? Who made this movie?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Some fucking dude, who who made the first This was
the first one? Now, waity, the poot doesn't really look
at you know, so he made that would only maybe
like a hundred thousand, right, two hundred thousand. He made
over like five to eight million on the first movie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
See, man, that's bullshit. Somebody needs to give me fucking
one hundred thousand dollars and let me make a fucking movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
And now I might look that was the first one,
right after he made the millions. That's the way he
looked like in the second one he got money to
fucking really make the costumes. Fucking dude, Winnie the Pooh,
bro Blood and Honey bro they go, they're trying to
kill Christopher Robbins. Now their whole story of the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Yo, But hold up, time out. How is Disney because
I know how to fucking they getting that off?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
The fucking what do you call that? The like the
licensing is fucking it's it's only for like one hundred
years or something like that, Like Mickey Mouse's license is
coming up, like the original og Mickey Mouse. So now
you can make movies with that fucking o g character,
like the Mickey Mouse from the boat. It's a whole

(01:21:02):
licensing thing. Bro, I think it's only like a hundred years.
So Winnie the Pooh's fucking licensing is over, so you
can start doing those characters and making whatever kind of
movie you want. What Just like Batman and Superman, they
only got a hundred years of a hundred year license
after that, Bro, it's on a.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Fair game, so I can just make my own Superman.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Movie after after the fucking license and fucking is open.
She is crazy, man, it's nuts. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
But they're doing a whole horror series. Bro. They got
Winnie the Pooh, they did a Bambie one. They they
got a fucking uh The Peter pan I did a trailer.
I did a trailer view the Peter pan one es
basically say he's like a fucking mass murderer of kids.
You know. It's like, you want to come to never
Land with me children start fucking killing kids.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
It's like, yeah, I'm definitely not watching that. You know
what I noticed show check this out right? So I
would I wouldn't notice stat throughout my life that whenever
I went through like a crazy experience or something, when
I would have dreams, the dreams would be revolving around
that experience. Right then, when I got older, got married,

(01:22:16):
moved here. So let's say now, I don't know easily
fucking ten years ago, I'm in my living room. You know,
Erico would usually go to bed earlier than me. I'd
be in the living room watching TV that fucking does
off fall asleep. Right, Whatever I'd be watching, my brain

(01:22:38):
would be turning into a dream. So if I fell
asleep watching a war movie, fell asleep watching Saving Private Ryan,
I would be in saving some version of Saving Private Ryan.
If I watched a horror movie, I'd have some type
of horror dream evolving. And then I started thinking deeper,

(01:22:59):
and I'm like, well, I'm falling asleep watching this movie.
Not only am I falling asleep, but now I'm falling
asleep and though I'm sleeping, I'm still listening to it, you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
So somebody's fightbly screaming, getting murdered, and Ship in my
brain's like visual, let me create a visual for that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I get that sometimes, but when I watching something, you're
you're in it in your head. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
But I've talked to people about this. I just think
I have like a heightened sense of that. So I
was like, yo, fuck being freaked the fuck out, waking
up like shook, Like yo, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
It's kind of like drinking. I puked one too many
times and I was like, you know what, I man
fucking drinking? Same ship I'm like, I'm having nightmares.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
I fucking woke up with a cold swimming fuck horror movies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, you don't want you don't watch no horror movies anymore. Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
I can't honestly think of the last time I watched
a horror movie. Oh man, I mean yo, and I
used to love horror movies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Man, you never watch a terrorizer, I mean terrifiersolutely won't
watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
No, No, I'm gonna be terrified, aren't the clown I
can't fuck with any of the clowns. I don't like
the circus. I never was a fan of the circus,
even to this day. You bring me to like a boardwalk.
They have too many like blinking lights and little like
rides and shit. I don't know, man, I think maybe

(01:24:21):
it's the Lost Boys. I start thinking, Shine, we.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Got Hell's over. Hell says he's been knocking out watching
Unsolved mystery reruns and gets the wildest dreams jump at
the host.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
You know, I mean, Unsolved mysteries will fuck your life
up because it's about terrible shit that happened that hasn't
been solved. So they're like, this guy's still running around
chopping off your fucking head. You're just like, oh, next episode,
you know this motherfucker's still other loose?

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Like what, YO?

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Did you watch the the Zodiac documentary that came out recently?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I don't think so, but I know about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
It documentaries, But I watched this one because they basically
are saying, you know, all those years they said that
Zodiac was an unsolved situation. Remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
I know they saw that, they saw they found the
guy who they think they think it was Zodiac killer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
But they made a whole documentary about Netflix, I believe
put it out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I watched the I watched the I watched the one
about what's this fucking the Nightstalker Richard Ramirez crazy, bro crazy,
that one's crazy. I love documentaries.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
I watched documentaries about just about anything but horror movies,
specifically because.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
In Trip, no business going so hard. Un Mysteries intro
it is fucking hard, though. Man, it gets you, it
pulls you right in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
How does that go again? The fucking mysteries? Is that
that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Fucking fuck you up?

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
You know what? Still to this day, I can't listen
to it without freaking out. What the intro to Tales
from the Dark Side.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
I love that fucking show.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Series show for sure, but that song man. When I
was a kid at that ship would come on, I'd
be like this, I plug my ears up and be
like wait till the intro was over, and then watch
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
When I hear that intro, all I picture is a
fucking ten inch black and white TV me sitting next
to my brother sharing a room watching it at like
one o'clock in the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Morning, freaking the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Oh my god. That was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Remember when they had they had like the Jason Show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Oh I got that. I own that Friday the thirteenth series.
And they also had nightmaron El Street. He had his
own TV show. I was on show, sitcom or whatever. Yeah,
Crow had one too, Crow. The Crow had one man.
I think it was like one season or season and
a half.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
Yeah, who played the Crow something other?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Dude? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
Remember they tried to have Eddie Ferlong play him or
play play some type of Crow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
That was number three. Oh god, man, that was number three. Yeah,
number three and four was kind of rough. That was
kind of rough.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Man. I just never understood why they did him so
dirty with that makeup, Like he looks so bad. Man,
he looked so corny.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
It worked though. He was the one who got electrocuted,
like like like like what was he was the one
who got killed in the in the electric chair or
some shit or and they tried to make it like yeah,
and they tried to make it like scars instead of paint.
It was like scarring.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
But I don't even remember that, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Oh, let me pull it up, man, and pull it up.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
Yeah that's so old now, yeah, that's so funny. I've
been putting my kid onto all the classic cartoons or Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Which ones?

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
All of them got your kid?

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Like, does your kid like Transformers? Oh? Yeah, that's about it.
He was black dad.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Let's watch Transformers nineteen eighty six. I'm like, let's go.
I got videos of him when he was mad little
like Transformers, like he was into a heavy ore.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
We go, all right, well this is this is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
He looks, man looks ridiculously. He looks like a mad girl.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
They got Angel in there, bro, the guy plays Angel.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Angel this Channel eleven ass motherfucker right here, and yo,
hold on, who's the girl.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
That's what's her face? Tara Reid?

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Yeah, a fucking American Pie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
This was the restaurant right here. This motherfucker like like
they really went back and they did, Like at least
the other Crow movies wasn't Eric Draven. This motherfucker who
played the it guy went back and they made him
Eric Draven. Is that out? That's out?

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
You don't want to watch it, bro, but it's out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
I would not watch it, like like like I think
it's the left it alone. Man. They should have just
left it alone?

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Look right there?

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
What the fuck the CrOx.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
It's fucking oh god, man, these are all the These
are all the guys who played who played the version
of the Crow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
You know what kills me about this ship is so
the first one was a classic, right I think you
know now, especially but they're like, let's follow up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
They follow up with just garbage. Well I mean, I mean,
I mean, you know what, at least I give him
the fucking the benefit of the doubt, where where it
wasn't Eric Draven. Still it was a different guy who
got the powers of the Crow.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
It's like anyone can be that, Like, funk around, I
could be the next Crow.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Yeah, if you get something tragic happening and ship you know, like, like,
look at the second guy, bro, his fucking kid was murdered. Bro,
Like he came back and ship and him and his
kid would drowned. So the crows, the crows fucking all right?
All right with me? I wanted to show you. Let home,
let me see the Crow. You can watch a TV

(01:30:33):
series on the YouTube. What the I'm gonna bust it
off here? That was when it was on the TV guide.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
M how are you doing that? You can go YouTube
on here. You can watch YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I mean, if if I'm not gonna I'll probably get
copyright strike, but yeah, I can put anything on.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
Who gives you? Who gives you the strike?

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
YouTube? Yeah? YouTube with the algorithm, bro, I'll see if
it's if the show or that they or the music
or anything's copyritten and they'll just strike me. Oh I see.
But this was the TV series is called The Crow
Stairway to Heaven.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Yo, Who the fuck? How do I not know about
these things? Yeah? Yeah, I'm telling you man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
We got the Crow to Stairway to Heaven. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
I didn't miss anything though, right, that's just pretty much doodo.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
No, it was good. I liked it. It was good.
It was Eric Draven. But I mean, you know it
was made for TV A guy uh Mark, Uh, this guy,
fucking Mark Mark. Uh he played him. Yeah, that was
He was the crow for the TV for the TV Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
That's my fucking boy yo for fucking American No. No,
but from fucking Iron Chef Son really yeah, he's like
the main dude for Iron Chef. You know, he's the host.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
It was Jimmy Lee and Double Dragon. He was Jimmy
Lee in the Double Dragon movie.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
What else has he been in?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Uh? Anything? Okay? Here he was in Uh, I'm trying
to think anything else that would fucking shit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
He's been in a bunch I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
He's been in a bunch of fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
He's doing his thing though. He mass ship john Wick.
He was in john Wick three. He was He was
zero freaking legend, bro Wasn't he?

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
No? He was not?

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Or was he? No? He was not in fuck is
that kill Bill?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Right? No? He was in The Flash, the TV series.
He was. Uh. He was on CSI. He was the
Iron Chef the Chairman episode two thirty six.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
He's in every episode.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
He was in Hawaii five oh and twenty twenty. This
guy he was in he was an episode Agents of Shield.
He was an episode of Lucifer.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
That's up. You got a pretty decked out career.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
And Mortal Kombat Legacy. If you watch the Legacy thing
that's on YouTube. The guy made a YouTube series. He
was kum Lau. If you ever watched the Legacy, bro,
the Mortal Koma, The Legacy, it's badass. Bro that it's
it's it's it's kind of a we got we got
scribble here. Sorry, I'm LETYA. Was listening to World War

(01:33:31):
two history this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
Guy, Bro, I mean, your World War two was fucking terrible, man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I mean all of them sucked, but I think none
was the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
I have a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
I haven't really gotten into it. More like that excuse
me what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
But like, like, I worked with a guy who was
in NOM and he's just like, I'm like, yo, tell
me anything. He's like, I don't want to talk about it.
A lot of I'm like, oh shit, Like I.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Mean, but y'all think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
If you was in a place where it's just all
about fucking death and murder, I would'tant to talk about
it either.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
True.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
True, it's just like, Yo, you'll remember when this guy's
fucking head blew off, Like you know what I mean,
some of that ship is raw ship. You don't remember
Dickie Sin Yo, the fucking the book What the hell?
What do you call that? The guy that has all
the books? Remember you would go get your books at
the little window. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget

(01:34:35):
what that guy's name was, right, yeah, it's a little window.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
The guy that ran that, he was in the in
the Vietnam War. Really, yeah, he had told us some
wowd ship. I remember him telling me. A couple of
my friends and were like, what the fuck, sit you down,
look at that two hundred million deaths?

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
I mean, how did they I mean how they gauge that? Though? Like,
how do you think they would? How do you think
they gauge that?

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
Like people screaming I can't find my family bodies?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Like so, so you think they sent two hundred million
motherfuckers over there or that's like that's counting you know,
both sides I.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Made said two hundred million deaths. Yeah, that's from like
fucking straight up street sweeping man, just fucking murdering everything
in sight man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
And World War Two. That was with the Nazis, right, yeah, Man,
so they're probably counted all the Jews that went fucking
and you know, the boom boom room.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
I mean it was just violence, Bro, just violence. Man.
I feel like, you know, I feel like just just
a lot of ship. You know, there's a lot of
shit that happens from it too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
You know, like there's no fucking This shows no matter
what culture, no matter where you are, Bro, you can
fucking commit some heinous ship.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Yeah, especially during war where you know, where there's no law.
You got people goons doing disrespectful shit, people.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Counting bodies, dog tags. The whole world was in World
War Two. That was the Nazis, right. Hey, Hey, I
wasn't there, Bro. I was born during fucking viet fucking Nam.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Where you really know where you were you born?

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
I was born in seventy seven. When was Vietnam?

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
It wasn't in seventy seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Yo, fucking gohole that ship. Yeah, you can't just say
some wild shit like that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
And then I'm like, Yo, it didn't happen in seventy seven.
And I watched, like the Vietnam War started in nineteen
seventy seven, Like what the fuck? Yeah, let's not let's
not fuck ourselves up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
November first, nineteen fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Fucking that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Damn, it's like nineteen seventy, the fucking vieh Nah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Man, you said that ship because you watched every military
movie was like Vietnam related. You saw Saving Private Oh, no,
saving Private Round. It's actually uh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
But my lack of knowledge makes it fun.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Now, you know what though, It's like the way I
see this is some people store ship like you store
stuff that Like you were just blowing my mind. Like, Yo,
you've ever seen the Crow series? We need motherfuckers like
you to remind people that that shit exists. Yeah, I
know that, you know I'm saying, but you're retaining that
information that I'm consuming and I'm enjoying. And then you're like, Yo,

(01:37:33):
what's it like to shoot the Northern Lights? And I'm like, Yo,
let me tell you about that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Then I'm like, yo, Vietnam's in the seventies.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
He's like, Yo, remember when Hitler made that speech, be like, no, motherfucker,
I didn't happen in my Tyler, what the fuck are
you talking about? Yo? I could have sworn no, man,
that didn't happen in your time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
That time bleed, bro, just everything bleeds in together.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Man, Yo, But what the hell was I just about
to ask you? Yo, you heard about I mean this
is gonna sound. I mean, I'm married, I was, But
you heard about this Ryan Reynolds freaking his wife Blake
Lively trying to like ship on this dude.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I think I think it was I think maybe I
think Ryan Reynolds got a little bit but heard about
maybe like a scene that had in a movie or
some ship.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Yeah, well that's what it's coming off as. But Yo,
they were doing everything in their power to ruining dude's life.
My wife told me about it. At first, I'm like, man,
fuck that dude. I don't know who he is. Fuck
because he got a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
D twenty years younger than you and I knew Vietnam. Bro.
You're like, you're twenty is younger than me, but your
brain is like fucking and like you were born in
like the fucking twenties or some ship, bro, because you
you like you like all that old ship.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Well, my man is literally watching some ship on World
War two right now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Yeah, and I'm always talking about the Crow fucking TV.
We went from the Crow.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
He's like, Yo, you ever seen this fucking World War
two ship. Like fuck, they're like fucking Vietnam. We just
went off the deep end with all this warship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
What what did you just fuck on my on? My
mind is fucking went blank? What did you just say
right now?

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
Who me?

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
I said, we just went off the deep end?

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
No, No, you were just talking about something before. He
fucking oh, oh okay, that's why. That's why he thinks
he made that that character nice Pool to make fun
of you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
That's what I was. That's actually what I was trying
to get at. Bring that up, because when once my
wife said it's like, you've seen dead Pool whatever, I'm like, yeah,
She's like, there was a character named nice Pool. I said,
as a matter of fact, yeah there was. Why do
you say that? She's like, apparently they're making fun of this, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
I think there was a character in the comics. What
I mean, was there a character called nice Pool in
the comics? Maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
I think apparent he wrote the character in and there's
a there's a few things that happened that were real sketchy,
like I forget, yeah, we forget World War two and
let's get back to the right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
For real. You don't about what I know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Man, Yo, my man, yo, so yo. You know you
ever heard about food fighters? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Man, I know that motherfuckers in some fucking food situations told.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
My actual food fighters World War two related. Your man
scribbles might want to chime in.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Are you aware? Are you worry about the UFOs and
the food fighters and that? I think you know, I
guarantee you bro back when we were having those wars.
Brother fucking they're just probably sit up there in their
spaceships with the popcorn to look at these dumb fucking monkeys.
He's dumb fucking apes.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
I've thought about this, yo. Imagine they just came down
tomorrow and I mean, these cats are just like you guys.
We have something to tell you. Aliens are real.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Here's talking with the sun. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Yeah, food fighters were bad ass. Are we talking about
the band or actual food fighters? Just saying I don't
want talking about Dave Wait, not the band?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
No, no, yeah, you're talking you're talking about about like
those are names. Those are the names of the fucking
uh of the air fighters that they didn't have documentations
on right, they were calling food fighters?

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Am I bugging out?

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Isn't that isn't that what they fucking out there? They
were calling out they were calling the unidentified uh, like
like if the America had like an unknown unknown jett
whatever they called a food fighter.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Yeah, but have you ever seen souliers talking about what
they saw, no, and how these things were zipping around
and changing direction faster than by military aircraft from the
Allies of World War Two? I did, so, Yeah, I
agree with you. I agree with what you're saying there.
But I've seen interviews with like fighter pilots and how

(01:42:18):
they described see the way these things moved and they
weren't moving like jets, you know, like they.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Would listen to like buzz Aldrin and all those motherfuckers
talking about when they came down they were like, Yo,
they saw fucking UFOs while they were going up to
the space station into the Moon.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
I don't know, man, I think a lot of this
ship is just like you know, what do we all
go by? We go by what we are taught yea.
And yeah, I'm not saying everything is wrong, but at
some point in time, somebody lying about something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
I think I think they're lying about like a big
chunk of everything.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
I mean, there's things that factor right, like I you know,
you ever seen Book of Eli with Denzel Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
I saw the movie. That was a great movie, all right,
Well fucking me up at the end. What part of
it fucked you up? Realizing that he was walking out
with a fucking braille Bible and he was blind at
the end.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
See that was that was because I mean he.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Walked around did ship like he was just like you
know he could see.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
Yeah, agreed, But you know what was blowing my mind
about the movie. It's the guy that was looking for
it was only trying to find it to gain power
over everyone. Like he literally his intention was is like,
whoever has the Bible and has these scriptures has the
power over basically everyone. So I thought it was so

(01:43:43):
crazy that someone had you know, you know, it just
goes to show you, you know, fucking I could take
this thing and turn it into the worst fucking thing
there was. You know I missed that last.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Yeah. What do you think about aliens? Oh? They're real, man,
I mean I don't care anybody says that. I mean,
I mean I personally believe in them, because I mean,
you cannot have all these species on this planet and
not think that there's I mean the way they taught
us saying there is other galaxies and stuff that to
not think that there is another life form out there,

(01:44:35):
you know, unless this is all just a simulation, like
people are starting to say now and we're just in
a computer computer thing like the matrix. You know, it's funny,
I am, because if that's the case, that nothing really matters.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
I mean, you know, I grew up, you know what's up.
My family was pretty religious, right. I feel like I
have a connection to religion, right, my grandparents, So there's
this part that's always had that around me. Right, And well,
I agree, I'm not disagreeing there, but fuck I lost

(01:45:14):
my train.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Of thought religion.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Oh but when I when I think about it, right,
I'm just like, am I wrong to think? Right? So,
like you know, they say, you know created, you know,
in the image of God. Right, so the person right?
And and I made these rules up for my earth
dwelling beings, right, Adam and even his peeps. Right. And

(01:45:43):
then I say, oh, here's the rule book, here's the
scriptures whatever, right, or throughout time whatever it is, the
scriptures are born or everything related to to religion or whatever. Right,
I'm saying this very loosely, but and then after he
does that, he's got He continues, what if like the

(01:46:04):
next day, God was like, We'll make myself a little
planet over here, you know, and planet over there. Uh,
why would why would I not think that? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Why would you just want to focus on one thing.
You're fucking almighty, you can fucking make.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
It, That's what I'm trying to say. And and people
are like, you know, we found we found another planet
that looks just like Earth, and we're pretty sure it
has water. We just can't get there. They got that
they're supposed to go there, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
They still a fucking another planet where they're like, we
see lights and stuff like we have.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
And it's like you saw that, yes, And all I'm
saying is is like, if you can't get there right
for whatever reason, maybe you're not supposed to be there.
It's like I've talked about this with people, right, you know,
if the ship was gonna go down right and for
the next twenty years, they're gonna be developing a space
a state where humans can go and live. There's oxygen, food,

(01:47:04):
there's a Walmart, McDonald's, everything on this motherfucker. And people
are like Yo, if the ship goes down, We're going
to fucking Nebular four or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Straight up, I would literally be like, you know what,
you guys, go to fucking Nebular four. I'm not designed
to be living out and fucking out of space. It's
just like saying I'm going to go live in the ocean.
I'm not supposed to fucking be there. So if the
ship goes down, I'm going down with it. That's just
the way I see it. So it's like when people
are like, you think there's aliens, It's like, well, can
you get there? It's like no, so I'm not fucking

(01:47:36):
with it. Can they get here? Could be possible? Have
I had an experience? I've seen shit in my life
knocking the front, especially most recently with what people have
been describing to see and even like like fucking you know,
paintings from way back when have shown.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Exactly all the all the the Incas, the Mayas, the
fucking Egyptians, they all got fucking walls of fucking you know,
like alien spaceships means coming down and ship the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
And you know, not for nothing. When I was about
I must say, maybe eleven twelve years old the house
that I lived in, the previous owners were into telescopes,
so they built themselves in the attic, which was my room.
There was a like a wooden ladder they made. They

(01:48:35):
cut a hole in the fucking ceiling. They made like
a platform, and they put like you know the cellar doors, yeah,
you know, talking about the ones that you used to
go to like people's basements from the like in Twister.
Correct uh. And they put one of those on the
actual roof, so it was like little doors that would
open up, and then you can put the wooden platform

(01:48:56):
like where you walk up. You would slide this like
wooden wear into place, and you have a platform. What
he would do is he would sit out there with
a chair, but I was telescope, and he would look
at this guy's for you know hours. We bought the
house from that dude. When we moved in there, I
thought that was the coolest shit, bro to be able

(01:49:17):
to open the roof for the room I was in
and be able to be like, oh shit, I'm outside,
This is fucking dope. I used to read comic books
up there, son. When I got older, I would like
puff trees up there and fucking read comic books listening
toround ship.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
It was spot long story short. I'm up there hanging
out with the homies again. I was probably like I'm say,
maybe like twelve went all up there chilling and off
like way over like I would say, like between Mallory
and west Side, pasted like checkers.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Watch with that salute though.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
Oh god. Off in the distance, right, we see what
looked like an orange orb right, and I remember it
was like a mute we did orange. It didn't look
like it was blinding. It looked like it was behind
something like if you can imagine what like a candle
would look like, you know, behind glass and like.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Candle wax, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
Yeah, And we all I noticed it first, My boy
noticed it right away. And then we're all sitting there
looking at it and we're like, yo, what the hell
is that? And it was just kind of floating towards us.
So then we start laughing and my boy goes, I
mean we were kids. He's like, it's probably one of.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Those weather balloons. Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
And back then, I mean I didn't know what the weather.
When I finally saw what a weather balloon looked like
when I was a bit older, I'm like, oh my god,
it's definitely not a weather balloon. I should look it
doesn't look anything like that. But anyway, it literally comes
close to us, and I'm gonna say it gets to
it's like literally over, you know, it's almost eye level
with us. And it wasn't that big, but it wasn't

(01:50:57):
small either, and it kind of stops over like let's
just say if I could say maybe like four or
five houses distance from my house, and it just stays
there for a minute and we're like, now, like, yo,
is it moving because it is just a round thing
you staring at you. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

(01:51:18):
And we literally are like, is it still coming towards
Just like, Yo, what the fuck's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Now? How do you not know? Maybe that maybe they've
had drones back then and we just didn't know what
a fucking drone was.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
I mean, Yo, this looked like a giant ball, a
floating ball, and Yo, but here he gets he gets
gets interesting when it gets close, when it stops in
that spot there wasn't we noticed that. We're like, yo,
hold up, there's no wind. So if it's like a balloon,
you know, it'd be sporadically moving with the wind. It

(01:51:51):
wasn't any wind, so we're like, well, maybe that's why
it's holding still like that, Yo. Then out of nowhere, yo,
if you know, like right, like imagine Communal Paul by
like checkers, and it stops a little bit more in
front of that, and then it decides to go up
towards the boulevard like up Communal Paul Harrison.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Changed his mind. They didn't want those chili cheese fries.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
It just went off. But the way it went off
is what made it weird. To made it made us
uncomfortable because at first we're just like, Yo, what the
fuck is that like?

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
But you never know, you might've been saying seam when.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
We're really slow. And then the way it's moved the
way faster, it looked weird.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Bro, I want to see some government ship brought not
even realize that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
But what long story short is we were young. We
laughed about it, you know, we went back to what
we were doing. But what I will say is, later
on when I got older, YouTube watching all sorts of stuff,
I was amazed to hear how many people describe what
I just described to you, which is like an orb
but like a muted color, not blinding. It's like a

(01:52:55):
soft light. But it just looks weird.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Now, what if it was an angel?

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
I mean, uh, one of my bands saying that, Just yeah,
I've heard this.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
I've heard this before. Remember the band Feel to the
Netflim Yes, man, but uh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Because our angels are described as orbs.

Speaker 4 (01:53:26):
I mean, dude, there's just so many things that shit
could be.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
It was something. It was something though, even that what
I saw, Yeah, it was no bullshit, that was something.
I'm not I'm just I'm saying seriously, like not not,
I'm just saying like, like it was fucking something. We
don't know what, but it was fucking something because I.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
Didn't feel uh, I didn't feel threatened. Ill I will
say that if it was something, I didn't feel threatened
by one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Two.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
The only thing that bugged me out was is that
we had just finished talking about that there was no wind,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Do you remember do you remember the one time it
was me, you, aging and a few people we were
smoking weed down by the fucking piers and we were like, yo,
what if the twin towers fell? You think it would
like be like a tidal wave coming to Jersey which
would fall this way or that way. A week later
nine eleven?

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
Was it a week later though?

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
I think it was a few weeks later nine to eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
I don't know that it was that ulo.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
I think it was a few weeks later nine to eleven. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:54:23):
I remember that conversation we were talking about if it
toppled over and slammed into the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Because I remember you brought you brought around a wave.
I remember because of that day you brought around the
Purple Hayes And that was the same day I was
crawling on the pier going I can't walk, I can't
get up because the purple haze had me fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Yeah, we was, I mean, but we were saying it
in terms of like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
But I'm saying but it's kind of it's kind of
like that, like you know, you know you got you
said you guys were talking about some ship boom. Now
it's like we were talking about some ship boom.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Yeah, but that's crazy. But yeah, definitely it was something
for sure as hell, let me talk about it. I
did hear all this stuff. I mean, yo, the Bible

(01:55:22):
is a trip. You know. What I tell people is
is you know, that's all you know. Everybody reads it
a particular way, everybody interprets it a particular way. And
if you read the Bible, man, and you just start
trying to decipher it, for the most part, you can
easily go either in a positive way, a direction, or
a negative direction. What I tell people is is my

(01:55:46):
version of the Bible is God is my conscience. Right,
So like every time, like I've said this, I'll say
it to you, every time you did something stupid in
your adult and your adult body right or as an adult, right,
you more than likely knew you were making a mistake

(01:56:08):
every time you were making one, because you're not a
dumb ass, and you're also a grown ass man. You
just tend to make dumb decisions, right, But somewhere in
there your brain is telling you a lot of the times,
like you don't do this, don't be a fucking dumb ass,
and you still do it anyway, we ignore. What I
like to say is God. My conscious is telling me constantly.

(01:56:29):
It's like, Yo, saman Jo, you want to go over
here and rob this dude? Nah, what's telling me to
do that? My fucking conscious, Like your fuck this dude,
instantly get rid of this guy. Kick him out of
your life right now. Fuck you get the fuck out
of here, right, you know. And there's all these things
that we have, like these censors and shit, your fucking
intuition is the most godly shit to me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Yo, I made a sense, your spidey sense.

Speaker 4 (01:56:55):
That ain't no normal shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
That's some un know who has that real heavy Johnny
riffs like like he's he's done. Some had some ship
to me that. The next fucking I'll tell him something
and he'll tell me like like say this, like like, oh,
we I had a guitar in a shop right, And
I'm like, Yo, this motherfucker your risks, bro, this motherfucker

(01:57:18):
is is you know, fucker with me? Blah blah blah.
He's like he's like saying, my guitar is not ready.
He said it was gonna be ready that day. And
Johnny Riss was like, he's got it in his house.
It's not even in the shop. We get to the
shop and the guy's like, oh, it's in my house.
It's not even in the shop. But I look at you,
I'm like, how the fuck did you know he's Oh,
he's done it a couple of times. But he's like,

(01:57:38):
I said, some ship, he said some he said his
answer to it, and it came out the way he
fucking said it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:44):
I don't know, But to me, that type of stuff
is that's all godly stuff, you know, stuff that's just
like naturally in you man. And you know, and I
understand people. I understand defects. I understand like him, goal imbalances.
I understand that a lot of this stuff can you know,
alter your way of thinking, drugs, so on and so forth,

(01:58:07):
and people do dumb shit, you know, But I think,
you know, for the most part as humans. You know,
you know, for example, I'm not the type of person
that is gonna let any like woman kid or like
an old lady for example, you know, get fucked with
in front of me, like I just want to. I'm

(01:58:29):
just not that dude, right, I would have to do something,
you know, if there's a gun involved, whatever it is,
I gotta I gotta try to figure out how I
can help that person. I just don't be walking away
from shit like that. But you know, I again, it's
just all like for me related to in my world.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
So you can just say basically, God is God is
your conscience.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
I mean, I'm gonna say that that's a fact that
in my like I'm only speaking from my life from
how I grew up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
I'm not trying to say like, I'm not trying to
use the word conscience is like a fucking lower fucking level,
whereas I, Yo, that's the fucking voice in your head. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:59:12):
No, no, no, that's what I'm trying to say. But
not a lot of people will say, well that's not
the case, you know, or someone will play Devil's advocate
to that comment.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
But for me, that's God in there, understand for me.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
Uh, you know, that's uh, you know something that I
just you know, feel strongly.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
That makes a lot of sense. But everybody's got the
God and the devil in their fucking brain. You follow
whichever one you're gonna follow. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
The funny thing is is, you know, if you really
think about it, a lot of times, you know, like
I said, well, something about being swayed easily with social
media and stuff, that's what's happening, Like you love how
just three to talk about it?

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:59:56):
How about when I was a kid, right? True story?
You know, I met this kid. You know, I grew
up Latino. You know, so in my house it was
cool beyond a man.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
Come on, I'm just.

Speaker 4 (02:00:09):
Saying, you know, so you grew up. You know, my
first language was, you know, Spanish till I was about
the third third grade is when I started really speaking English.
And you know, my parents were watching Spanish television. So
you know, Fuck, where am I trying to go with this? Sorry,

(02:00:30):
I'm a little lifted.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Now we're now, now we're scribbles going with this?

Speaker 4 (02:00:35):
Bro, I'm getting distracted. I don't know what the fuck
was saying. Yeah, sure, this is your conscious would be
how it is your conscience?

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
I MI, it's different with everybody. Everybody's had a different experience.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
Yeah, I'm only talking about from my perspective, But damn,
I was trying to make a point and I forgot
what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (02:00:55):
You met your friend, you lived, you lived a Latino life.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Oh sorry, growing up. So I met this kid. And
I met him because he had a fucking like we
call it like a husky and it had like all
the bike, the dog, all the dog, Huffy. His name
is Joey, and uh we got cool because of the

(02:01:21):
dog and oh shit, playing with his dog and ship.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
It's cool.

Speaker 4 (02:01:24):
We start talking about music and stuff. Kind of music
you listen to, I said, honestly, man, right now, we
listen to whatever's like on MTV. I wasn't really like
I was a little boy back then, like eight nine
years old or some shit. That was my ten actually,
and we got cool. We've seen this kid all the time. Eventually,
one day, you know, his mom meets my mom. We

(02:01:46):
go over and find out that my cousin lived up
the street when we moved there. We didn't even know that.
It's crazy, but so my mom would go visit them
all the time, and my man lived down the street,
like a couple of houses down from that. So eventually
he's like, Yo, come kick it at my place. Tell
my mom it's two houses down. Coach, just come back

(02:02:09):
like an hour or whatever the case would be. And
I went in this motherfucker's room and this guy had
black Sabbath posters everywhere, fucking king Diamond, all this crazy
shit that I never even at the time, wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
Really TV wasn't showing that shit.

Speaker 4 (02:02:26):
Yep, And he starts playing all this shit.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (02:02:29):
Remember you ever seen the movie The Gate? Yes, Okay,
remember his homie that listened to metal records.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
He had that crazy ass.

Speaker 4 (02:02:38):
Room, like in the eighties room.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
That's how Homeboy's room looked.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
It was fucking clothes everywhere. It was like a dream
room for someone like me. In my house, you put
a fucking shirt on the ground, you get your ass
with you to pick that shit up.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
That's how my parents were like.

Speaker 4 (02:02:55):
Clear your fucking room. The fuckers go yo. I went
into this kid's room and I'm like, Yo, this motherfucker
literally has it the eighties, classic messy ass bedroom with
shit everywhere, posters all over the wall, and he was
playing all this music. So I tried to bring that
shit home with me, fucking Black Sabbath. My mom was

(02:03:17):
like what the hell. She was not having it. What
the fuck is this like losing her mind anyway? Start
getting older and stuff things like Marilyn Manson, you know
the guys we were hanging out with. The Ship was
playing all the time, fucking nine.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
And you must have been hanging out with Scribble Bro
because you just described his room.

Speaker 4 (02:03:35):
I mean, after that, my room certainly started looking more
like his room. But you know, my family wasn't like that,
So it was like again cultures. Right, So this guy
block away and I'm like, he's living a whole other
fucking life, listening to different music, just wilding the fuck out.
But uh, damn swim forgetting my train of thrown on

(02:03:56):
this again. Sorry, I'm a little lifted right now.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
Wow he brought over the music to your house? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:04:05):
Point being is so that was considered demonic and devilish, right?

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
And then in today's world, it's like maybe sometimes I'm like,
am I getting old? Because I'd be seeing I mean
literally lately lately, I can't watch anything without seeing some
type of subliminal message or just picking up on just
things that I'm like, why did you feel the need
to add that in there?

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
And it's like, and I'm not trying to be.

Speaker 4 (02:04:33):
On some conspiracy or shit or anything like.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
That, no, but You're right though, a lot of people
they put those things in there, bro, Like all.

Speaker 4 (02:04:41):
These fucking musicians and shit, like just doing blatant things
that I'm like, well, how the funck else am I
supposed to see that? Right? Like I've always said, right, like,
it's not how you say it, it's how the person
receives it. I'm saying I'm saying that right. Yeah, it's
not how you say, it's how the person receives it.

(02:05:03):
Am I saying that right? In other words, is I
might say something thinking anything that made or may have
offended you. You may have received what I said in
it in a way that hurt you in a certain
kind of way, but you're not gonna tell me about it, right,
because it's just like there's a waste of time or
whatever the case may be. But you get what you

(02:05:23):
get what I'm going with that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
I get what you're saying with that.

Speaker 4 (02:05:26):
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
It's just wow, kid's selling you got a cool room though.

Speaker 4 (02:05:33):
Yeah, that kid was fucking awesome. Bro. I mean our
friendship ended really quick. Let see.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
That ship. I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
That's a tricky you know. I mean I ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
I'm not like that type of dude that has as
just for shit like that. But I will say this,
A baby is born, and having kids on my own,
you know they're gonna reflect you, right, So if you
had a parent that was not so sensitive to how

(02:06:18):
that kid is developing, and you have careless you know,
I'll say this, right, I tend to have a pretty
strong voice. When I get angry, raise my voice or
gets deeper, it gets more direct, right, and you know,
my little boy's five now this you know, this happened

(02:06:39):
just recently too, and you know, he got me angry.
So I kind of raised my voice to kind of
just be like, yo, enough's enough, you know, time to
get serious. We're gonna do this now, and that's the
end of it. Blah blah blah blah blah. And I
noticed instantly that it was just like it just made
him look at me differently, like instant like I just

(02:07:01):
saw it in his eyes, like he was just like,
you know, like whoa Like he's really upset or whatever
it was. Anyway, so you know, for the next few days,
I was just trying to make sure I was trying
to explain to him that, you know, I gave you
so many opportunities. You weren't you know, you weren't listening.

(02:07:22):
You were being disrespectful daddy. When Daddy says it's this,
we gotta do it like blah blah blah blah blah,
and just kind of walking to him, and you know
what he said to me, he was, Daddy, I didn't
like when you yelled at me. I said, well, you know,
we weren't listening. He was like no, he said, well,
you took it too far with my five year old.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
He's like, you took it too far. He was like,
you were just so loud. He was like, you were
so loud. I didn't even know what to do. So,
you know what I said to my wife, I started
looking into that, right, and I found all this information on.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
Like how their kid's deep. Bro, Holy shit, you know
he's not.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
It's not necessarily deep. I'm making it deep by disdaining.
He said it to me in the most innocent way,
you know what I'm saying. But I'm trying to understand
the fact that, you know, he's still a kid. You know,
he can only think but so far, you know, and
you you learn by experience, right, So it's like, I've
never seen my dad that mad so all of a sudden,

(02:08:23):
And if I don't reinforce that kind of shit, you
know what I'm saying, Like he's gonna develop something. You
know what I'm saying, he'll change in the southern name,
He'll fucking I was trying to.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Get is too what scribbles saying.

Speaker 4 (02:08:37):
It's like, I don't know if you're necessarily born with
a good conscience or a band conscious, But I certainly
know that the brain is there to absorb whatever is
around it. So if you have a mom that isn't
loving you as much as another mom or whatever, I
think these things all factor into how that person's brain
is gonna fucking develop. So, like, yo, and I'm just
gonna say this because I grew up in the hood,

(02:08:58):
so did you. I've seen a lot of bad moms,
you know, bad parents, fucking you know how many times you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
Go in the supermarket broo.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
Yeah, man, not only that, but how you talk to him,
you little motherfucker, Like, Yo, that's a fucking four year
old you're talking to Like that little.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
Motherfucker's better get over here. Bah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:21):
I seen that ship fucking a million times, you know.
Uh So I feel like it all depends. Yeah, yeah,
there you go. I mean, you know, it's just I'm
just saying that. I just feel like I think human
beings or just things. And somebody, brother, I don't know
who said this, but this was really dope. It said

(02:09:43):
if you put a baby. Who told me this? Man,
I don't want to, I don't wanna I wish I
could just quote who said that to me, because it's stuck.
He said, if you take a baby, right a rabbit,
like a baby rabbit and carrot, what would happen?

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Wait, a human baby, a rabbit and a carrot.

Speaker 4 (02:10:07):
Yeah, and you just left them there fucking for days.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Fucking rabbit eat the fucking the carrot, not the baby rabbit.
We see.

Speaker 4 (02:10:15):
What the guy said was is what would happen is
is the baby would feed the carrot to the rabbit.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
Oh he's getting on some lovey dove shit right there.

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
I would I just basically what he was saying, this
is the natural instinct most of the time is gonna
be to be nice. You're a baby, the baby's gonna
be like carrot. The thing's hungry, put up to his
mouth and feed it, eat it, and then the baby
has nothing to eat. I just I don't know. I
feel strongly about that, yo, because I'm this is funny.

(02:10:49):
I think you and I were talking about this just
the other night. You know, I've seen kids have fucked
up parents.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Man, Oh yeah, yeah, were yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
And then you know somebody that I was growing up,
you know this is my friend, is now in jail
for some foul shit, you know, and you know I
could have well, I'm not gonna say I could see
it coming. I understand why that happened, though now I understand.
As a youngster, I'm like, yo, man, he's crazy, you know, Like,

(02:11:20):
well he didn't need to do that, you know. But
then you think about these motherfucker you know, like some
of these dudes that I grew up with had been
so abused, right that it was just like a moment
where I'm tired of eating shit. Fuck you you're not
you know, I'm going home. You're not going home, back
back back, a little poke or whatever it was, you know,

(02:11:43):
you know, and then that's it if you're fucked, you know.
But I feel like it all comes down to, you know,
your upbringing. Like yo, true story. When I used to
go home from school, I lived across the park. Everybody
else was like dunking Pj's and all those side streets
up and down Duncan, right, But I will go home

(02:12:07):
across the street on Communopaul because I had mentioned to
you that border Van had gotten my address confused with
the other part of Delaware and that continues on the
other side of the park. Now I'm supposed to go
to twenty four, but they sent me to thirty nine.
But you know, when I finally got cool enough with

(02:12:28):
some friends where they're like, yo, I'm like, come chill
at my place. One of those kids went back and
told told the other kids that I was rich. He
went back to school like, Yo, Christian's rich.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
It's like what they're like, Yeah, you got a house,
dad got like.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
A dope car.

Speaker 4 (02:12:49):
Mind you, I was living a basic.

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
Ada got a Toyota Corolla.

Speaker 4 (02:12:54):
That's my point, and is I just live in a
basic house. But in comparison to what some of these
kids I was growing up with going to school with,
have any of that shit. So when they saw my
man was, he wasn't trying to get me in trouble
at school. He was just like yo, you know, like
I was chilling his house.

Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
His mom made dinner, He's got food in the fridge. Bro,
food in the fridge, he's got a fridge.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
Well, I mean you came, you know, we met in
high school. Stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
But Yo, my mom was always cooking. Your mom was
Latina bro of course she cooked banging always have. I
remember sometimes going to your hospital, Yeah sounds going down.

Speaker 4 (02:13:31):
I mean, yo, if you would have came around during
fucking h my younger years. Man, my mom used to
feed the whole block of motherfuckers, man a bunch of skaters,
and she would feed everybody. But my point is, you know,
those are great examples of like mean parent on drug
parent that's just not unfortunately able to give that baby,

(02:13:54):
you know, direction, And you're like, what about, like, yo,
what is your frontal cortext? You ever heard of a
frontal cortex? No, you don't build, you don't fully develop
a frontal cortex till you're fucking way older. In other words,
you really just don't have that part of your brain
that can really make wise decisions. That's how we do

(02:14:14):
dumb ship when we're young, you know. And now that
I'm a parent, my point is i'd be looking out
for for the signs of like changing, uh, the relationship
with me and my kiddos. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:14:30):
Oh yeah, it's like I don't have any kids, but
it's like I see it where it's like you just
you just can't get you're molding them out of clay,
and you can't just get stressed out over anything because
you'll just fuck up the mold that you're just molding
you know.

Speaker 4 (02:14:45):
Yeah, I mean you could. You could. You can carelessly
fuck it up, is my point. You know, you can
literally like me raising my voice the way I did,
especially abruptly in the way that I did, where I
was just like I had enough enough, you know what
I mean, he was just like stunned by like what
the But you also, everything is new, right, so kids

(02:15:09):
like you literally like my daughter's just like touching everything, right,
she's not even one, She's just like, yo, what is that?

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
What that part?

Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
I want to taste everything because everything's new, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
Right or right there, right there, your your son was
was born and like, like I like I took it
as like, you know, he's he's in that that the
bubble of everything is fucking beautiful. Everything is perfect, and
you just poked a hole in like no reality can
seep in any fucking moment.

Speaker 4 (02:15:37):
Yep, that's to put it. That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Because they're all born innocent, like you said, they're all
born innocent.

Speaker 4 (02:15:43):
Yeah, but then there's that there's the flip side of
that is they're gonna experience something in.

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
This world it's gonna fuck them up.

Speaker 4 (02:15:52):
That's gonna suck him up. So it's just like, do
I want to be the one that introduces that experience
to to your world? I don't know. You know what
I do want is I want I want respect, no doubt,
and I also want you know.

Speaker 1 (02:16:05):
You get over it when they're thirteen. You fucking scrabbled.

Speaker 4 (02:16:08):
About you know, kid, you'll get over it when you're yo. Bro,
I know you're right, Say no more, you are correct.
I know teenage yeers, man, I got nieces, nephews and
all sorts of family.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Imagine your kids coming in like this, Pops.

Speaker 4 (02:16:25):
You don't want yo, it's rough out there, man. Parenting
people say, oh, you'll see the hard parts of the beginning. No,
the fuck is not. You're lying. My kid's five already
I know where this is all going, and not to mention,
he's my kid. I was literally sneaking out of my

(02:16:47):
house fourteen years old, hopping on my skateboard, riding the
General Square, fucking taking a train, going in the city
and being a maniac at fourteen and coming home and
nobody knew shit. Yeah I knew this like every weekend deal,
like every like Thursday, Friday, like y'a I'm out.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
I'll tell you that. I'll tell you this. So why
your son won't do that Because by the time when
he turns that age, the trains may be like ten bucks,
I don't pay ten.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
He's not he's not growing up at the same time, YO,
think about how Yo, you grew up close enough to
where I grew up. You grew up pretty much right
off of Montgomery, right, Yeah, exactly, So it's just like
you were in the same neighborhood. You know, shit was
different back then. Man, it was a fucking war zone everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (02:17:38):
It doesn't feel that. It didn't feel that way back then,
But I think about it now and I'm like, yeah,
I wouldn't want my kid in that fucking I don't
want to want my kid in that situation. Hardt, bro
My niece is nineteen. Damn. My brother's daughter's teen, supermodel status,

(02:18:03):
beautiful girl. Uh, I have no words.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
That's what that's your brother that I want to know.
He's in the Navy, of the Air.

Speaker 4 (02:18:11):
Force, Navy. Well he's retired Navy now, but you know
the point is, you know his daughter's beautiful. She's nineteen.
She's talking about college boyfriends, all sorts of ship that
you're just like fuck uh you know, and whatever. It's
just I guess I have a daughter now, that's.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
What's gonna happen. It's like you're gonna have to invest
in numb chucks, ninja swords.

Speaker 4 (02:18:36):
It's like my it's like my father in law. You know,
I totally understand my father in law now. It's like
he has love for me. I've been around for fucking
over twenty years, you know, and we have a good relationship.
He'll be lying. But when the ship goes down, god forbid,
should it ever right go down, He's going right back
on his daughter's side. Fuck you Christians, but yo, straight up,

(02:19:01):
I mean yo, you get you know, think about it, man,
I can't expect them not to. Yeah, exactly, It's just
natural for it to be that way. So I guess
what I'm trying to get that nobody's ever gonna be
good enough. You know what I'm saying, uh, for for
my shorty, Like I might love you, because she might
love you, but that might be.

Speaker 1 (02:19:19):
You know what I'm saying. It's not an though, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:19:24):
I don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
Well because once you fuck if you fuck up and
you cross that line. Sorry, bro, you fucked up?

Speaker 4 (02:19:31):
Oh yeah, I don't even know. I don't even want
to think about any of this.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
You're not even in that. You're not even in that
fucking zonia of like if they fuck up.

Speaker 4 (02:19:38):
But I've seen it happen now with some of my.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
Uh you know, your son's gonna grab me and go
leok out that energy. Now, Dad.

Speaker 4 (02:19:48):
At the energy, now, you old motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (02:19:53):
I'll be about prime. I'm twenty four. Can you yo?
You think you're ever gonna hear that man like? Yo,
you old as fuck pops. She'll know shit.

Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
I don't think so. I mean I never did that
to my dad. You know, I never was that type
of dude. Yeah, man, there's no well, like a parent
and new kid choose my life and we stopped doing
and change everything. Word up.

Speaker 1 (02:20:14):
Good for you, I mean your kids.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
Just put your life into perspective, because I describe it
as this. Right up until I had my kids, I
really didn't have anything that needed me, you know what
I'm saying. Like my wife, Yeah, granted we love each other,
you know, obviously I need her in my life and
vice versa, right, but when we met, we didn't need anything.

(02:20:41):
We were just getting to know each other. We liked
each other, but we didn't need to be together, right,
just needed a bag of cookies, nice lunch and chip.
More importantly, if we went our separate ways, she'd be like, Yeah,
I'm still gonna eat, I'm still gonna breathe, I'm still gonna,
you know, take a shower and do all this shit.
A baby's born and literally is like, I'm helpless. You

(02:21:03):
have to help me. You're my dad.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
Now think about this. We're not from this planet. What's up?
We're not from this planet? Who us? Humans? Humans? Think
about any other animal, any other creature on this planet.
Once they're born, they're ready to fucking rock. They're ready
to rock and roll. We're not for like about at

(02:21:26):
least fucking ten years when I'm ready to rock and roll. Yeah,
but uh, I don't know. Bro. You get a fucking
a killer whale comes out of its mother's fucking womb,
it's already fucking eaten. A horse. A horse comes out
of a fucking you know, any animal, and it's pick
any animal. They're ready to rock and roll. They're ready.

(02:21:46):
They're walking and strutting right next to them, like, let's.

Speaker 4 (02:21:49):
Go yeah, but I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
Not a human kid got to hold that motherfucker for
a couple of years. Well, I mean even even monkeys.
They fucking kids come out, bro, they're ready to rock
and roll.

Speaker 4 (02:22:04):
But like, yo, baby born in Africa versus a baby
born here, totally different babies. Have you ever seen the
movie Babies? No, I watched the documentary with my wife.
She tells me, I want to watch this documentary called Babies.
I wanted to watch some more movie with Christian Bale

(02:22:26):
Rescue Dawing. I think it was called I Heard Good Things.
I'm like, I want to watch that. She's like, no,
let's watch Babies. I'm like Babies. I'm like, come on, man,
the rest you doing Christian Bale is just gonna be
fucking sick. She's like, we're watching babies.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (02:22:45):
I'm my son of a bitch. I should have smoked
more fucking weed.

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
Sit down and start watching this thing.

Speaker 4 (02:22:53):
This happened to me, by the way, meet her and
I at least ten times. A little bit Sunshine was
another one. But I fucking sit down, fucking start watching babies,
and I'm like, Yo, this shit is dope as fuck.
So Basically what happens is you're seeing how a baby

(02:23:13):
that's being born in the middle of nowhere in Africa
with you know, you know, these small villages fucking dirt,
roads and stuff, versus the baby being raised in like
Beverly Hills, and you know how oh no, watch your head,
Oh my god, watch out.

Speaker 1 (02:23:33):
You read food. We're gonna give it your movocando.

Speaker 4 (02:23:35):
We're gonna you know, basically treating a baby like a baby,
talking to the baby like a baby. When they show
you the baby in Africa, yo, and it's the mom
like trying to start a fire. The baby's rolling around
and dirt and dust all day, this fucking uh dust
in the air, and the baby's breathing all this dust.

(02:23:58):
There's all sorts of bugs and ship and the baby's
just like bulletproof sho fucking baby falls, gets up, keeps
it moving. Basically, you know, sometimes our kids are soft
in comparison to kids growing up in places like Africa.

(02:24:20):
She got too heavy about to CRY's good back to
lheart and stuff like Ryan, yeah, this this, this, Yeah,
I don't know, it's just you know, we're getting older
talking about parenting. Parenting could be cool man. Yo, you

(02:24:42):
ever seen my son's Bobo FETs costume? I made him
at a cardboard.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
I think so straight.

Speaker 4 (02:24:48):
Fucking murder bro. I'll send you a photo.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
It's weird though, I see you and your son. It's
like your son's like.

Speaker 4 (02:24:54):
A mini you. Well, I mean he kind of is. Man,
he's taking up my personality. He he likes music, he likes
like he has like a he has this funny character
about him that just has been coming out of nowhere
where he'd be like, Yo, what up Dad, like like
the head gestures. I don't know it just this is

(02:25:16):
recent too, like you suck you know. He'd be like, Yo, Dad,
I'm gonna go put on my my bulbuffect costume. And
I mean I'm like, where'd he learned that? Obviously, this asshole.
But when he does it, it just it's just so
fucking funny to me. But uh yeah, parenting.

Speaker 1 (02:25:37):
Oh man, well, Chris Man, we've been at this two hours? Yo?
Has it been two hours and twenty five minutes?

Speaker 4 (02:25:44):
Man? Yeah, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (02:25:45):
Be let's wrap it up, man. So so we got
coming on in the future, man, when you go you
got what can these people expect? Because I'm gonna say that,
like like, you and maybe one other person are gonna
be my last interviews for a front of Dungeon. I'm
just gonna stick it strictly music, talking about music and stuff. Man,
if any if I'm going to talk to anybody, I'll
bring your mama occupied the Occupy Your Mind show. So

(02:26:07):
you're one of the last two people I'm gonna ever
have interviewing on this show.

Speaker 4 (02:26:12):
It's been an honor.

Speaker 1 (02:26:14):
What do you What do you got? You told me
you were coming up with some.

Speaker 4 (02:26:18):
Well right now, I'm working on listing called feature Proof,
which is gonna be basically a platform where me and
a few other people are curating like art, so photography, painting, music.
It's been developing right, so it's been a slow crawl.

(02:26:38):
We're trying to lock in all the social stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:26:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
We got a website that we're designing now where basically
all the big stuff will be housed, like the full
on interviews and all stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
But the cool part.

Speaker 4 (02:26:52):
About it is it'll be developed to the point where
you know, we'll be doing interviews like I have the
first three interviews already set up. I'll be posted on there.
We'll also be doing like music reviews, and we're gonna
have the feature proof podcast, which obviously I'll invite YouTube also,

(02:27:16):
and then that's gonna become You remember sound Soil, yes,
when I was doing sound Soil. So it'll be like
a live performance series. Started off small, so like DJs producers,
I like to do like producer MC combinations or like
dj MC combination performances. Just keep them small performances for now.

(02:27:42):
I'll take even like acapellas and things like that, and
then on the YouTube and ship like that. I was
thinking about having like DJ sets, you know, vinyl record
DJ sets, like soundscape DJ sets, just all some musical shit.
I just that's like what I'm going after right now. Obviously,

(02:28:03):
once I develop it and hopefully get like an actual
space for it, then we'll start doing like full on
you know, bands and so on and so forth. That's
what I'm working. That's my main focus right now. Uh
that and Yo check this out? Hold up? Yeah, sure

(02:28:30):
we're gonna see Yeah, you remember.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
My boy Q I think so Yo.

Speaker 4 (02:28:44):
We started an air freshener company son, so we're gonna
be making a like air freshness. It's called fully Aromatic.
It's that's also still those are the two things that
I've been and really working towards. So like I've been
designing art for that, like this is the first this

(02:29:05):
is actually a test run or this boom box boom Yeah,
and my boy wound up liking him. We're like, let's
just do our test runs with that. And then I
just made five new ones. I got three four other
ones that I'm currently like finishing up, and then we're
gonna launch it full on like Etsy website type bullshit.

(02:29:28):
I'm more to it for the curation, so like that's
also gonna be similar to feature Proof, right where we're
gonna have limited edition runs, so there'd be more like
collectible pieces of art in the end. So like we
can photographers, you know, designers, graffiti writers, all sorts of
ship designing them, and then we'll do like, let's just
say one hundred and fifty two hundred limited sign number

(02:29:52):
type shit with like a postcard or a graphic image
of the actual thing, and then you can frame that
and you know, get it all signed and all that
kind of shit, make them like collectibles. But that's pretty
much it. Other than that, still doing art, you know,
messing around with music. I have been dabbling in music.
It's been a slow crawl because I got into Ableton

(02:30:14):
Bro and sometimes I'm like, man, I just I'm I
guess I have more of a boombap.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
Approach any rapping coming back though.

Speaker 4 (02:30:22):
I mean, I've I've been writing stuff, you know here
and there. It's just not what it was.

Speaker 1 (02:30:29):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:30:29):
I'm in a place where it's like, I don't you know,
I never want to be the guy that doesn't reflect
my life. So it's just like, you know, when you
have kids. I'm not saying you lose your edge, but
you lose your edge, you know what I mean. It's
just like you're more of like a controlled person. M.

(02:30:49):
If you know me, all of us, you know, we
were like kind of very loud personalities and rock cams.

Speaker 1 (02:30:57):
Rock KEM never lost his edge.

Speaker 4 (02:30:59):
I'm just saying, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure in there.
Uh you know throughout time, you know, kids soften you
up a little bit, you know, they change the perspective
on stuff, and not for nothing. I can't say, like
for example, like I was saying, I just wanted to
reflect my life. So if I do write like a
like some type of.

Speaker 1 (02:31:15):
Like rap album. I should.

Speaker 4 (02:31:17):
I think it should be like, you know, I should
title it like, yo, this is for the Fathers and
then just rap about being a dad because you know, that's.

Speaker 1 (02:31:26):
Kind of what I'm going through. It's like I think,
I think, I think you can do it because Joel
wants still doing it, still dropping albums? Is he he
pops up too? But he's popped up too. Man, He's
a pops and he's dropping. He's still dropping albums. Broun
band camp.

Speaker 4 (02:31:41):
I haven't kept up.

Speaker 1 (02:31:42):
I mean a lot of conspiracy stuff, but pretty good.
But like MC yeah, dude, yo, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:31:50):
I'm gonna go look at that stuff done. I mean yo.
Me and him always talked about working on stuff. It's
just it was it's never meant to be whenever we
have talked about it. And to be honest with you, man,
it is a part of me that just like has
this thing in my head that you know, I never
officially put out anything related to.

Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
You've never put on an official rap album never.

Speaker 4 (02:32:13):
But I told you man back in the day. You know,
I feel like what I really liked was freestyling and
being in a cipher with a bunch.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
Of I think I think you should put out one
syringe needs one album in his lifetime.

Speaker 4 (02:32:28):
So back to back to that, and now that you
said that, I agree, but I wish in my brain,
I wish I could pull what's in my brain out
in terms of like the production aspects of it, the
theatrical parts of it, because you know, I struggle, like.

Speaker 1 (02:32:48):
I know you got I know you've got a brother
in law who makes good beats and does good production.

Speaker 4 (02:32:52):
Does you know? But here's the thing, right, so there's
you know, there's a producer for every person that's saying that,
he's not the producer for me. But based on his personality,
his approach to making beats, his beats are very upbeat.
They make you want to break dance, which I love,
you know what I mean? I love I love Ben's

(02:33:14):
music period shout out to Ben Books. But in my
brain I hear everything just like like slow down. I
hear a lot of like like that type of ship.
You know, I don't hear, you know, I just don't

(02:33:36):
hear that. I hear something very dark and what's the
end of the world ship? Just some ominous ship? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
You LP? I agree?

Speaker 4 (02:33:49):
LP would that's I mean what.

Speaker 1 (02:33:53):
Right said right when he said I think it was
stepfather Factory.

Speaker 4 (02:33:56):
Well, I mean he definitely has a he definitely has
a particular.

Speaker 1 (02:34:05):
Not his new ship, his old ship, his ship. I mean, yeah,
not running the jewel ship to my company flow. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (02:34:15):
Mean it's somewhat in there.

Speaker 1 (02:34:19):
You need the boombap album, you need least you gotta
put out, you gotta put out the syringe boom bit.
It's because I mean needed.

Speaker 4 (02:34:27):
To be different, man, I'm telling you, I need it
to be different, man. I needed to be something more
soundscape driven, distorted, loud fucking drums, slower tempos, and a
lot of interludes, and like that's what I want more
than anything, because you know, like Android Space for example,

(02:34:49):
a lot of people don't know that that's like a
continuous story of what was happening and like a backstory,
this lose story that we created, you know. Like I
was just saying right now, right, like, if I were
to write a rap album now, it would be something
more like because I wouldn't want to be fronting. I

(02:35:10):
would want to reflect what I'm going through in my life.
So I feel like it would be a lot softer, right,
So I feel like in my brain, I'm hearing these
darker noises, right, so that I could take myself and
put myself in a character's shoot, you.

Speaker 1 (02:35:26):
Can write a movie. Your album is a movie. It's
like android space, right.

Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
Well, the problem was when we started writing the music,
because it was so like whatever the fuck you want
to call what it was. It made it to the
point where I'm like, well, I don't want to I
don't have nothing to say about me. I don't have
nothing about me that matches what we made in terms
of the music. So I said, well, let me write

(02:35:51):
as somebody else. So I started creating these characters and
these stories to be able to write something that was
a little bit more interesting than me. So I feel
like in my brain because I don't want to do
something that's so happy, go lucky for the sake of
being a dad, right, I feel like if I put
myself and what I'm hearing in my head, I can

(02:36:11):
become a character.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
But I mean, you gotta look at it like this too,
Like like I look at it as Christians, the dad Syringes,
in't the Dad Syringes the fucking the ender of worlds.

Speaker 4 (02:36:23):
What I'm saying, I get it. You know, well you
know that being said again, you just said it right there.
So it's like if I could pull the character syringe
out of my head, it would be on some real
down Temple's the.

Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
B I know he is. I know he's a bro.
He comes out every day other way to work.

Speaker 4 (02:36:43):
Brodn't be open alchemist fucking beats. I got hooked on
Alchemists for a while just listening to anything related to
Alchemists in terms of like beats and ship. He kind
of has a lot of that when I'm talking about
the more slow down temple shit.

Speaker 1 (02:37:01):
But that's what I want, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:37:02):
It's like if I could say the perfect record would
be like if I could get Trent Restaurant Atticus Ross
to do the interludes and have like LPH, I mean fuck,
LP is just fucking almost like right there and what

(02:37:22):
I mean. But then there's like, you know, drummers and
shit like be following a lot of drummers that haven't.

Speaker 1 (02:37:31):
You get to do a guest appearance on it? I mean, bro,
like no, no, no, mister Lyft.

Speaker 4 (02:37:40):
Honestly, if I dropped the joint right now, I wouldn't
do any collaborations. I would just want to do, like
one giant long art piece yoall in my brain. It
plays beginning to end with no breaks in between the songs.
Every song leads to an interlude, Every interlude leads to
a song all the way to the end, and it
would be at least an hour long and not not

(02:38:03):
not a lot of hooks more just like fucking no hooks,
no no huks, not saying no hooks, but a hook.
I hear a lot of no hooks. I hear a
lot of DJ scratching, like four hooks. I missed that ship, bro,
just some fucking hard ass dirty beat, fucking dope rhymes
and like a fucking you don't you don't you know,

(02:38:28):
like that kind of ship you're gonnat fucking die, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:38:32):
Like I love those fucking what happened?

Speaker 4 (02:38:35):
You know, DJ's is such a fucking huge part of.

Speaker 1 (02:38:38):
Like dirty rap ship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:38:42):
It's just like I would just love to have, uh,
like a DJ just breaking down some fucking choruses, you
know what I mean, And just like drums and a
lot of like synthesizers and ship like that. I could
I have new stuff, but it's not that I'm really
proud of you. It's especially in mixes. Man, that's the thing.
Fucking able toons. You're fucked with Ableton.

Speaker 1 (02:39:04):
No, I haven't fucked it. I never fucked out any software.

Speaker 4 (02:39:07):
Able to when you go from like MPCs and shit,
just like even like comparing ableton sound to like even
like machine.

Speaker 1 (02:39:17):
I never cared about mixing, bro. I was always like,
whatever whatever you put in, that's it, Bro, it's done
to me.

Speaker 4 (02:39:22):
It's like I just can't get able to to sound
good yet, Like I have ideas sketched out.

Speaker 1 (02:39:26):
I got a couple songs that is that like the
same thing as like.

Speaker 4 (02:39:29):
A pros Ableton's adult So I can record my vocals
into it. I can record any instrument, I can upload
songs to it. I can sample and chop on there.
I could do just about anything you want to do.
The other thing is I can't. I'm struggling with that
because I don't have the time like I used to

(02:39:49):
really this shit out. Like I was saying about the
bass before, if you want to know how to play
the bass, to shut the fuck up and learn how
to play the bass. I just don't have to shut
the fuck up and learn how to use able to time.

Speaker 1 (02:40:00):
You need to just fucking have somebody else do all
that shit and you just get behind the mic and ril.

Speaker 4 (02:40:06):
See that's the thing though, Man, It's like I'm not
trying to just do that. Yo. It's like saying, Yo,
just here's the beat, go rap, go right a rhyme.
It's like, I just don't see it like that. And
I just feel like, if it's gonna be a music,
if I'm gonna do like a rap album, it can't
be like like, for example, in the past, like I
would have friends that would just right to h They

(02:40:29):
will write to a song.

Speaker 1 (02:40:31):
Then it gives you a beat, You.

Speaker 4 (02:40:32):
Write to it, go to another producer, he gives you
a beat, You write to it. You know, you might
go back and forth between three or four producers. And
then while you're done, you got twenty thirty fucking songs.
You say that one sounds good, that one sounds good,
I'm gonna pick that one. Boom boom boom. You arrange it,
first track, second tracks, on, and so forth, do whatever
the fucking between, and bog I'm dropping this bitch.

Speaker 1 (02:40:55):
You got you got too much rock musician in you. Bro.
You want to be a part of the fucking mold
of it.

Speaker 4 (02:41:00):
Correct, And not only that, man, but like, take someone like.

Speaker 1 (02:41:05):
LP for example.

Speaker 4 (02:41:06):
The only reason when you said LP, the only reason
I said, yes, I'm not saying that's who I want specifically,
I want that type of person that will beat themselves
up about saying that's not what I want, that's not
the sound that I'm going after, like, and I'm not

(02:41:26):
gonna stop until the sounds like that. I fuck with
that heavy like because that's the motivation, right. This motherfucker
just beat himself up making his beat, adding all this
weird shit going on, abstract with it, trying something different,
fucking having people love him and hate him, just to
come up with this sound. And now that it's there, like,

(02:41:46):
you gotta respect it. You ain't gonna show up and
spit some bullshit on someone like that's music. In my opinion,
that's why I don't fuck with a lot of people,
if you ask me, because not a lot of people
able to kill A MIC is a great example of like, yeah,
he's gonna go hard at it, and he's proven it.
You know, he's fucking tearing him beats up, you know.

(02:42:07):
But that's just the way I wish I wish I
had a band that made rap beats. Does that make sense?
Like I wish I had a guy that had fucking
a bunch of mogues, a couple fucking synthesizers, you know,
samplers and shit, a guy with a fucking beat machine,
a drummer, dope bass player, and you know, a DJ.

Speaker 1 (02:42:31):
You know there's something that's I guarantee there's probably a
fucking group out that like that. Like, Yo, man, I
wish we could just find somebody who fucking just rhyme
over to our fucking crazy soundscapes.

Speaker 4 (02:42:40):
No, well, you know, it's funny. I'm glad that you
said that, because where the fuck do I find these people?
Because I'll be honest with you, I've been I've been
dealing with people for the past few years. I'm wanting to.

Speaker 1 (02:42:54):
To do.

Speaker 4 (02:42:56):
You know, a project with like let's start a band,
even if it's just for like an album, right, and
the ideas will start going back and forth and someone
will fall through. It's just it's just tricky, you know,
to get people to understand.

Speaker 1 (02:43:10):
What I mean. If you could think that it's out there, bro,
you know, there's somebody out there, there's people out there
that are just like thinking the same way as you. Like,
they're in that they're in that mode where like, we're
looking for a fucking guy who just wants to rhyme
over a crazy fucking shit, and it's like you're looking
for a fucking group and just writes this crazy fucking shit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:43:28):
A friend of mine told me, here's what you do.
You write a letter to that band, and then you
uz sid and then you go to every guitar center
and put it by the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
Like what. I thought. It was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (02:43:44):
He might be honest something though, you ran into the
bathroom and guitar center. As soon as he said, I
started laughing. There's always like the the you know, we
call it a little bulletsin boards with people a new
drummer looking for guitarists or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:43:59):
I thought, that shit, fuck, what do you want to do?
Leave a letter? This letters for you?

Speaker 4 (02:44:05):
I mean, I'm getting close. I'm getting close to getting
to the sound that I want on my own. I
just don't know how good I can make it sound.
I know I've done the beats that I want. Just
when I, like I said, I'm struggling with the out
that the mastering, even the mixing part. I mean, you're

(02:44:26):
pretty good at mixing, but I've been struggling even with that.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
But you know, they got programs. We're just drop it
in and masters it for you. Ah.

Speaker 4 (02:44:34):
You talking about like Lander and all that ship.

Speaker 1 (02:44:36):
I mean I've heard about it for mastering. Yeah, you
just drop your ship and it masters it for you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:44:42):
But have you ever seen someone master something?

Speaker 1 (02:44:46):
I've never watched, but I mean I can imagine it's
probably just it's it's it's they probably wouldn't want nobody
around them to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:44:54):
It's like you did that in a click of a button.

Speaker 1 (02:44:56):
They're like your AI. Baby.

Speaker 4 (02:44:58):
I'm just like, I don't know. Some people aren't built
for AI though. True, But that's pretty much it, Dave.
I'm just uh, still doing me, still messing around with music.
I mean, one day I'll go through you know, the
library ship that I have and put something out as
like fucking Tenderfoot Jimmy or.

Speaker 1 (02:45:21):
Something Jimmy Tenderfoot want to fuck.

Speaker 4 (02:45:25):
Say Like Sometimes I'm like, you know, just drop something
as an alias like.

Speaker 1 (02:45:29):
That sounds like syringe. No, man, it's Jimmy Tenderfoot. Man.

Speaker 4 (02:45:33):
I remember you remember terodactyl fly the Reptilian one.

Speaker 1 (02:45:38):
You remember.

Speaker 4 (02:45:40):
He was he was a he was a short lived
alter ego. Man, oh godactyl fly the Reptilian one.

Speaker 1 (02:45:49):
And and I guarantee you probably you probably got some
ship on your computer that I do have.

Speaker 4 (02:45:55):
I do have something, but nothing that I'm proud of.
It was like that when the idea was born. We
recorded it, but nothing that I'm crazy about.

Speaker 1 (02:46:06):
That's a sign of old age right there. That's that's
the cue. Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:46:09):
But YO, thanks for having me. It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (02:46:12):
Shout out.

Speaker 4 (02:46:13):
I listened to you all the time, So shout out
to scribbles for checking in. I hear your music also,
and YO, keep it up, and I'm glad that you.
Uh what episode is this?

Speaker 1 (02:46:25):
You know? This is three thirty six.

Speaker 4 (02:46:27):
Three hundred and thirty six episodes, y'all. My man is
going hard. I really do appreciate YO.

Speaker 1 (02:46:35):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (02:46:36):
The best part of your podcast has been feeling like
I'm hanging out with you.

Speaker 1 (02:46:40):
That's it. I try to make it, man, I try
to fucking keep it. I'm just start to see let me see, Uh,
I forgot which number you you were on, Like fucking
fifteen or something like that. Brother, The last time you
were on here episode fifteen, I think, so, yeah, let
me see where the fuck is syringe, Sarah. You were
in early episodes, man, real though, Oh you were on

(02:47:03):
twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (02:47:04):
Damn that's crazy episode twenty eight, Man, Damn, that's wild
as hell. It's like y'all was there in the beginning
and I'm there at the end of the interview process.

Speaker 1 (02:47:14):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (02:47:15):
But yo, keep it up, Dave. I really do think
you know, you're really good at this. I think it's
something that you're doing naturally obvious. You enjoy doing it,
so just keep doing it and fucking.

Speaker 1 (02:47:27):
Yeah, I just gotta stop being tired and taking naps, yop.

Speaker 4 (02:47:31):
But sometimes you need to take a nap to be
on point, you know, and we're getting older. Naps are
in point for the bones, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:47:38):
I had a n app walk up and said, you
want some tacos? Like, sure, yeah, I want some tacos.

Speaker 4 (02:47:43):
It's the rid Joe. I gotta eat three tacos after
that we could start the podcast IV. I'm like, yeah,
no doubt, do you that I understand? I understand what
your old motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (02:47:57):
I can't eat the three tac eight.

Speaker 4 (02:47:59):
I have no choice, Dave three tackles, don't forget to
drink a lot of I saw the section you said,
you said, you said you forgot about it, and I'm like, oh, man,
I'm sleeping.

Speaker 1 (02:48:08):
Fuck, I gotta get up, man. Yo.

Speaker 4 (02:48:12):
He told me the podcast is today at eight o'clock.
Eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:48:16):
I thought I said nine. Bro. In my mind, I'm like, y'all,
I got till nine o'clock.

Speaker 4 (02:48:20):
Eight thirty, Like, Yo, we're still doing this ship yawn.
I thought we just woke up.

Speaker 1 (02:48:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:48:27):
What the fuck he was sleeping? I thought she was
gonna be like, yo, sorry, man. I got caught up
at the line at the shop. Rights like, yeah, I
was taking a power nap.

Speaker 1 (02:48:37):
I got home because I got home, Bro, I was
driving for like an hour from back from Lizon, but
I got home. It was like six six ten. I was.
I went right to the bed. I was like, Yo,
I gotta take a nap. Bro, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna have no energy for this ship if I
don't take a nap.

Speaker 4 (02:48:50):
Yeah. It's all good though, man, It's been fun man.
And uh yeah, when I when I have my things
set up I'll definitely invite you over to feature up
on my spot.

Speaker 1 (02:49:02):
Oh hell yeah man, yeah, we're up. All right, motherfuckers, YO,
this has been syringe. I'm d rotten YO. Make sure
you guys check out Everything Fun and Done, the podcast, Everything,
Fancast Media, Brown, all your motherfucker's out there.

Speaker 5 (02:49:14):
We got two words for you. Peace out.

Speaker 1 (02:49:30):
That was great. Oh ship, that's how you ship. That
syringe coming on, Bron, just trying to crack out of
the sky. Let me out, Let me out. It was great, Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:49:45):
Alright, Lada, guys, peace out.

Speaker 1 (02:50:19):
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