Episode 08: The Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear (1991)

We're back and so's the Police Squad gang! But now they're in Washington, D.C.? Sure! Chris, Mike, and Mark get a big ol' whiff of the smell of fear when Drebin and team must foil a plot to destroy the EPA. Priscilla Presley is back along with a host of ecological baddies including Lloyd Bochner, Tim O'Connor, Peter Mark Richman, and Robert Goulet.

Episode Transcript

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Washington, d C. Where violenceexplodes every day, but America's toughest cop
is pounding a new beat of thetenant dread. The police squad is back.
Is this some kind of bust?Very impressive. Ye, they're ready

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for action by a trooper ready forlove. I'm lonely, I'm lost.
I need someone to hold to loneFrank over here and ready for seconds in
the movie that proves you can leada cop to water, but you can't

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make him think the waters over therefor starring Leslie Neilson. I don't recall
seeing your name on the guest list. I think to be embarrassed about.
I sometimes go by my maiden man. If it's not jurist, he's not
interested. Priscilla Presley as the irrepressibleJane Robert Goulay as Quentin Hapsburg. That

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truth hurts, doesn't it Hapsburg?Oh sure, Maybe not as much as
jumping on a bicycle with a safemissing, But it hurts. George Kennedy
as Captain ed Howkin. Congratulations,I understand that. Then as pregnant again.
Yes, and if I catch theguy who did it? And O.
J. Simpson as Lord Burg,step out. If you only see

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one movie this year. You oughtto get out more often. The Naked
Gun two and a half. TheSmell of Fear, I mean, the
strongest thing of God. This isa sequel so big they had to add
another half. Welcome too from thefiles of police Squad in Color. I'm

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ros Mike White. Joining me,of course is mister Chris Tashue. I've
been swimming in raw suitch all day. I love it. And mister Mark
Begley, well, when you've hadthat much, man, but you wouldn't
know anything about that. That wasme looking askance, almost looking at yes,

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how many times are we going tolook at the camera? Count?
I'd like a black Russian. Idid not understand that that was he didn't
want to bring him a black Russianperson. Because we've just had so many
literal jokes. Give me something strong. Literally, we are talking about Naked

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Gun twenty No, not two anda half. We are talking about Naked
Gun two and a half, TheSmell of Fear. We are in Washington,
DC for this one. I'm notexactly sure why, other than to
have a very continuous joke of GeorgeBush Senior and Barbara Bush in here and

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a little bit goes along the way. Yeah, well when when my dear
friend Mark Begley and I were watchingthe first scene together. Unlike the first
movie where there is a punchline,you know and Stay out of America,
where is the punchline in this firstscene, in this opening scene where Leslie
Nielsen is beating the shit out ofBarbara Bush? What is the punchline?

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What is the final gag? Becausethe scene just kind of ends. It
just ends. Yeah, yeah,just kind of kind of ends. It
just ends. It's like it's like, whoa, whoa, why are you
starting the movie already? Was theresomething else here? He knocks her over
for the last time, and thenyou're waiting for the thing and yeah,
like you said, Chris, cutto car going through multiple places that a

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car can't go through. Cut tothat lovely iron Newborn score. That's what
it is. They are really waitingfor the audience to laugh with this one.
And I can feel those beats andit's just like, oh, okay,
this one. We are not inza Z territory. We are in
z territory. We've got David Zuckerdirecting this one. David Zucker and Pat

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Proft are the credited writers. PatProft we talked about when it came to
Police Squad the show, and herehe is, and I think Pat has
been behind the scenes with a lotof this stuff. And I actually wrote
down all of the jokes that arerecycled from Police Squad. Oh good,
I'm glad that it wasn't just me. So I counted at least one,

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two, three, four or five, six, seven, eight jokes that
we've seen before, not too badin a ninety minute movie, and nothing
that is really just like, ohboy, you know, we saw this
whole setup before, now just likelittle things. How many gags you think
there are in the movie total?Like if you just were because you counted
all the repeat gags, how manygags do you think there are in the

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movie if we were to just ballpark, like, what's an acceptable amount of
repeat gags? I guess is myquestion, because again, this is kind
of interesting territory we haven't really treadbefore, and I haven't really tread it
watching these movies until this time.Is this an acceptable amount of retreading,
I guess, is my question?Or when does it become too much?

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Because we did have retreads in thefirst movie obviously, and now we've had
retreads of retreads in this movie insome of the jokes cases, even I
would say there's going to be atleast two hundred jokes in here, if
not more, And some of thoseare the visual gags. I mean,
we get a lot when it comesto the explosion that happens near the beginning
of the film and all of thecrime scenes stuff. Even though a lot

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of that. I kept thinking ofLoaded Weapon while I was watching it,
exactly what I think of, andit's done better in that movie. But
I also think this movie cops alot from Naked Gun and Police Squad in
a positive way. I think itcops more from Police Squad in things that
aren't directly ripping off, as intonally, as in the direction of the

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movie in general from a narrative sense. But I'm just gonna go out on
the record and say this, Ithink I like this one better than the
first one. And I think that'skind of been the case for a while
now, only because whenever I thinkof the one, I quote more and
the things that make me laugh harderoften revolve around the gags in this movie,

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like the I've been swimming in rawsewage. I love it or most
of the things with Robert Goulay orthe zoo gag that is I think the
best or one of the best reoccurringnaked gun gags or reoccurring zaz gags that
they have ever done in any ofthe things that I've watched above theirs,
I agree. I like this moviebetter than the first one. I obviously

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it pales in comparison to Airplane.For me, this works, and it
works pretty much all the way through. For me, there's nothing really where
I'm just like, ah, yeah, George Bush looks kind of grotesque in
here, but yeah, I understand, you know. I mean, those
prosthetics are really odd. The womanthat plays Barber Bush, I think looks

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dead on so much of this.I thought the issue with the Bush actor
was that made him look old.I think that was the issue. I
think they put old man makeup.That actor looks like George Bush. They
just put old man makeup on him. So that's why it looks so terrible.
The George Bush thing feels very hamfisted. It feels so forced into

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this movie because I mean, itcomes back at the end, obviously,
but I don't think we needed it. In the intro. I think it's
kind of the problem. Yeah,they're doing a lot of setup in this
intro, by setting up the wholeBush thing, setting up this commissioner of
the Washington DC Police and Frank comingout and I guess running a section of
police squad and being able to bringEd and Norberg in there, because like

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the headquarters looks exactly like it doesin whatever city they were in, La
Chicago, whatever, and then alsosetting up doctor Meinheimer and you know,
you're getting that stuff, and alsotelling us all about I'm glad they admit
on the commentary all about the ecologicalax grinding that they're doing, and seeing

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all of these guys from the whatis it the coal industry and the oil
industry and the nuclear industry and thoseguys still. Yes, I was so
happy to see Tim O'Connor as oneof those guys. I mostly know him
as being one of the scientists doctorElias Huer from Buck Rogers in the twenty

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fifth century, so I was gladto see him on there. And the
other two guys are what Lloyd Bachnerwho's always fucking fantastic, and Peter Mark
Richmond is the other one who Imostly know from his appearance in Star Trek.
He kind of looks like Martin Landauand it could easily be mistaken for
him. But yeah, it waskind of nice to see those guys at

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these like three evil guys, andjust surprising at how liberal the politics are
in this movie, and even tothe point where he keeps talking about Frank
keeps talking about how the Democratic Partyis dead and they need to run somebody
that is worth voting for. Butthose are all like applies. Those are

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good things. Yeah, those arelike legitimate things. You know. It's
not like it's not like I wasrushing out to vote for Biden here,
folks, Well, you have towork with the cesspool out there. Isn't
that the voter's fault. I doappreciate those jobs, but those jobs were

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funny then, and like you said, they're funny now like they're timeless.
Of course, poke fun at thepoliticians because they've always sucked. Like it's
you know, it's not hard.When Mark and I were watching the movie,
Mark kept throwing out as George Bushover and over again, which made
me think about all of the youknow, obviously Dana Carvey did it on
SNL. Just thinking about how bigof a target. This was at the

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time, like this didn't feel likesomebody going out of their way. This
felt very much in line with wherethe nineties, especially SNL would go with
that kind of the president stuff,because obviously we had Dana Carvey did George
Bush, and then what Phil Hartmandid Bill Clinton? Right, Yeah,
but this was still at the timeof like, this is the height of
SNL in the nineties, So itkind of makes sense that this is getting

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in on it, or at leastkind of getting some inspiration to be topical,
but it does kind of weigh themovie down by being topical. The
first movie is a better movie thanthis one because it feels less topical in
a way, like now the queenis obviously dead, but the queen just
died this year. You're like,holy shit, Like you know, theoretically

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that plot could happen in a lotof things, but George W. Bush,
Like HW Bush, I really like, man, you just we went
too specific. You really did.Yeah, we are very time and place
here even to have ja Ja Gaborin the opening credits smacking the bulb and
dropping an F bomb and I'm justlike, okay, yeah, I remember

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the Jaja incident. I think thattook place in nineteen nineties, so they're
probably writing it as it was happeningkind of thing, so okay, and
having like Dacacus as one of thebig disasters in the Hubble Telescope before the
Hubble telescope got fixed and was thiswonder of technology. But that was when
they launched the Hubble telescope and itwas a failure because what was it,

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mark the mirrors were misaligned or something. Yeah, but yeah, it was
very, very time and place havingGeorge Bush as one of your main characters,
and I think they could have gonebigger with Bush because he was I
mean, he wasn't the best presidentwe ever had, of course, and
I think things like him throwing upin the Japanese guy's lap, right,

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those things like those are it mightnot have happened by that point, but
there's some bigger things that you cango after with Bush. I didn't see
him as the butt of any jokesreally, no, the political I was
surprised by all the ecological stuff becauseyou think, oh, that was even
back then, kind of a wokeagenda. But that's the side that we're

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pushing in this movie, is youknow, clean up, spill, smoke,
and kaboom, but the politicians themselvesaren't really the target. I have
to go on record as well andsay I enjoyed this more than the first
one, and a lot of thathad to do with those gags taken directly
from the show. I felt thatwarm comfort of the show that I've grown

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to appreciate even more after watching thesemovies seeing those. Even though I would
say eighty percent of the repeat gagsare like direct repeat gags, the quasimodo
gag is exactly the same, Theshooting gag is the same the shooting gag,
and this is the second time thatthey've repeated it, because they already

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repeated at once in Police Squad inthe show. And I think, by
the way, I'm pretty sure theway this works with Police Squad is they're
like Ghostbusters. They franchised out.There's a police Squad branch in every major
city. That has to be whatit is. That's my head cannon and
Frank Drebin is obviously one of themore well known police Squad people, or

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he's the only one. It's youknow, Police Squad is him and Ed
and Nordberg and what's his name TedTed, and while in Ted and the
other guy, I always hear nowas this never shows up? Yeah yeah,
no, Al, does he notshow up in this one? Oh?
Yeah, yeah, you're right.The Egyptian chalk outline is directly from

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the first episode. Holt see,I didn't count that one, so you've
got one more than I do.And there was one more towards the end.
I believe that it wasn't a directOh that was the shootout. I've
got towel gag, the towel gagwhich we just saw with the pillow in
the first one, but it wasin the wig and the That's maybe not
exact, but I would say thereare at least seven that are almost exact

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spiritual successors. I was getting mycar washed. Car washed gag just a
little more elaborate in this. It'snot somebody windexing the back window. He's
actually on the car, and there'sSuDS on the car and a hose coming
off the car, etcetera, etcetera. There's I was heading back to headquarters

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where he's driving backwards, and thenI'm immediately though that heading back to headquarters
was followed up by the guy whohas the gun and the police station that
he hits with the door, whichis weird. Which is weird. Al
Yeah, nice shot for him.I wouldn't have known that if he hadn't
been in the credits that that washim. I missed it when we watched

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it, Chris, I think Isaid that was weird, al but like
it's literally like two seconds, like, yeah, exact same gag you mentioned
Little Italy. And then the mostfamous one for me and I think it
was even in the trailer is isthis some kind of a bust? And
luckily in this one the woman actuallyhas boobs, because the woman in the
episode had no boobs to speak of. It's our girl from Goodfellows. Yes,

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yes, Gina Master Giacomo taken fartoo soon. It was she the
whore in Apartment six. That's aw in a barbed sex Yes, hello,
superintendent, do you know you havehorror in your building? I couldn't
tell everyone who walks in this buildsyou want nothing, but as the superintendent,

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yes, I want you to know, sir that you have a holes.
Rossie do you hit me Jennie Rossi, Rossy, Yes, that is
her? What was it? Begley? She was like thirty nine when she
passed hardened bacterial hard infection. Sucha fucking shame. She's great and Goodfellas

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she is great, good film,given anything to do here, but recognizable
because of well Goodfellas being, youknow, being what Good Fellas is.
So yeah, just what the yearbefore this was nine, I think,
yeah, yeah, when it lostthe Oscar to that amazing film Avatar.

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Oh wait no Wolves, yes,go yeah, Dan's just never miss We
should never miss an opportunity to readat ate how fucking stupid that was.
They do a really good job whenit comes to the characters, the side
characters like you mentioned Robert Goulay asQuentin Habsburg. I'm a big fan of

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Richard Griffiths aka Uncle Monty from Withnailand I so seeing him in here or
uncle was yeah. Also of theboring aliens from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,
and that was like one of hislater, very later roles. He's,
um, the ones that are likethe boring ones, right, isn't

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that the poetry the bad Yeah?Yeah, who just reads Yeah, he's
Oh my god, they have theweird They don't look like Richard Griffiths,
but they look like what Richard Griffithswould look like if he was an a
mutated alien. That voice makes sensecoming out of that creature. And he
kind of said it's another actor takenway too soon, was sixty five and
died from heart surgery complications. Likecheese, right, I'm sensing a theme

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here. Yeah, and then AnthonyJames, the one to know him like
such a lovely man. That guy, he had the most evil face,
but he was the nicest person I'veever spoken to. He was just amazing
and as Hector Savage Sage, heis one of the reasons I love this
movie is that scene with him andPriscilla in the Power is amazing. And

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then he gets one of the worstdeaths in film history. Like I'm sorry,
that is a gnarly scene start tofinish, and I can't believe it's
in a comedy and the way theyplay it is well, the way they
play it is for laughs. Butit dude gets a fire hose in his
mouth and he explodes. Yes,yeah, of course he never thinks to

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take it out, but yeah,you know it's really jammed in there.
Yeah, there's a noise. Yeah, you hear the thunk noise and it
goes into his mouth. It's veryyafet Kodo from Live and Left Dive,
But I think it looks a lotbetter. Yeah. Well, it's because
it doesn't float to the ceiling likea balloon thing. We don't see.
Everything is left to the imagination outsideof the two shots we see of him,

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but they are very horrifying. Justto look at him into the wall
with his with his face just expandingit. It's very effective. Yeah,
so good. I mean, yeah, the setup of this, like I
said, they take care of itall before we even get to the credits.
Then it's mostly what the introduction ofJane that we get post credits,

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all of the stuff to do withthem breaking up, and I kin,
I kind of like it that they'rebroken up and then it's this whole like
get the girl back thing, youknow, and that boy meets girl,
boy loses girl thing. I likethat better than them just being continually in
love and all that kind of stuff. I'd rather have this rough waters between

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the two of them, and especiallyhaving this southern man, I mean,
Robert Goulay, who's not going togo for Robert Goulay. So with the
Habsburg Valdis which was at a little. It's pretty good. I think for
me, I could have done withoutthe love interest in this movie again,
like it just kind of her StillaPresley is fine, but she's really still

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not given much to do other thanus think that maybe she just doesn't realize
she keeps working for the villain overand over again. Her choice in men
is impeccable. Frankly, you knowwhat, though, she doesn't actually work
for him because she works at theMineheim that Mineheimer Institute. I cleared that

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up in my brain today as Iwatched it at a second time. I
was like, oh, wait,no, because I was thinking the same
thing. And we may have evensaid that to each other when we watched
it last week. That's fair becauseFrank asks him, oh, you are
you around here a lot? AndI'm like, why is he asking him
that? And then I remember,Oh, they're at the institute where the
doctor works dating him. It's work. Yeah, so he's always there because

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they're eating their sweethearts. But Iother than the repeat gags, there were
some other things that felt very muchlike police squad in this one, which
again was giving me that nice feeling, or the boxer's names when Nordberg and
Ed and the Captain are doing thatwhole deal. That was really good.
You hadn't seen any of that namestuff since Police Squad, and they did

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that all the time. And thatHector Savage from Detroit. Yeah, I
remember this X boxer. His realname was Joey Chicago. Oh yeah,
he fought under the name of KidMinneapolis. That's all Kid in Minneapolis,
Flight Ones Cincinnati. Oh, you'rethinking of Kid in New York. He
fought out of Philly. He waskilled in the ring in Houston by Texas

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Colorado. You know the Arizona assassin. Yeah, from Dakota. I don't
remember. It was north of Southnorth South Dakota was his brother from West
Virginia. You should know your boxing. Well, what was the line he
was asking for a description? Oh, he had a mustache, about six
foot three tall mustache. That's verymuch a police squad gag. In the

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Blue Well, that whole Blue Notescene, maybe because they did so much
in bars in Police Squad as ayou know, one of those set bound
type scenes. Oh, and that'sanother repeat as the drink that he orders,
because he's fucking around with that drinkin one of the episodes, I
wondered. I thought that they haddone that before. I couldn't remember exactly
where it was, though. Isthe gag about Robert Goulay not being able

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to keep it up? Is thatyou guys think that's a police squad gager?
Is that? I feel like that'sone of my favorite gags his entire
movies, Like well, are youseeing anyone? Yes, she's an author
of a sexual impotence book. You'veprobably read it. Yeah, But I
don't know if that's police squad.But it's that kind of Honestly, it
feels like a joke that's out ofplace in a lot of ways, Like
I don't know, like Frank Drebencan be kind of pithy, but he

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doesn't really insult anybody ever, He'sright, What's like, Yeah, it's
a little bit more of that cluelessback in this. I think that is
super clueless in this. Yeah.Yeah, Like I don't know if it
police squad or what it was.It was just like it kind of stands
out as a really strange joke,And there are some strange jokes in this
movie that maybe I don't know,like they were trying to like incorporate more

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of like edgy nineties humor, andthe next movie kind of really Simpson vibe
a few times in this right,it's like cartoony, like it's it's veering
into cartoon land. I mean thatthat's scene that you were talking about,
Mike, where they come into theMenheimer Institute after the bomb goes off.

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That is a Simpsons gag one likeyou mentioned National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon one.
It's it's more of a cartoony gagin that because they do it twice in
that movie. They do it onceat the beginning, and they do it
once when they go to Mike McCracken'shouse, Dennis Leary's house, they do
it again the same thing. It'skind of weird because it's just this movie

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feels more in nineties than the lastmovie did, which is not Police Squad.
Police Squad is not inspired by anythingin the nineties. Frankly, Police
Squad. I know it's inspired bysomething from the fifties, but it feels
more timeless to me. And thisis very time and place right here,
even more so than the first film, which I think one of you already

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said. I read an earlier draftof the script. I think there are
two of them floating around out there, and there's one that's many revisions in,
and there's one that's fewer revisions.And I tried to read the fewer
revisions one pretty similar. The onething that was missing that I I don't
know if they shot it or not. It doesn't look like they did.

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After Frank drops his hard hat intothe gears and we get that one gag
of the gear flying out and hittingright near his head that went on for
a lot longer. There are peoplekind of like the beginning of Police Squad
the series, there was a personon fire running down the hallway kind of
thing, and it was just hereally did a lot of damage by dropping

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his hat into those gears, andit was very much like who the hell
did this? What kind of assholewould do this? And every sirens going
off, Clackson's all this kind ofstuff, and they just cut that right
out and just left the one gagged. Yeah, it seemed very truncated,
and you could tell something else wassupposed to happen here. You see red

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lights in their faces at one point, and you hear a couple sounds,
but you know that that was connectedto a much more elaborate scene when Nordberg
is supposed to be putting the transmitterunder the red van. There's some stuff
cut from that as well. He'sstarting to take a wrench to something,

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and then the next shot he's coveredan oil. Right, there's a bunch
of oil on the ground. Youdon't get to see any of that.
Not that it was as elaborate asas the other scene, but yeah,
you could tell. And again we'reat eighty minutes pre credits, so,
which I'm grateful for. I don'tthink I want a two hour naked gun

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movie. No, No, Ithink ninety minutes is the perfect running length
for a comedy. I mean,maybe even eighty five minutes, which this
is. But right when the creditshit, it's at an hour and twenty
minutes, so, which is finewith me. I kind of forgot how
much OJ is in this movie.Yeah, for whatever reason, remember OJ

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being under the car more that himbeing under the car essentially the entire movie.
I don't think he adds anything bybeing here. It's kind of funny
because you know, in the firstmovie he's incapacitated essentially the entire movie.
He leads to one of the funniergags him going ass over tea kettle into
the you know whatever state him butthe best in this movie he is given

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nothing to do. He literally drivesout of the movie for part right towards
the end. He's there, buthe doesn't really add anything. He's there
for the mariachi scene. He doesget the good line of he can walk,
it's a miracle, which is afunny line only because oj is saying
it. Really given nothing to do, which I kind of found surprising given

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in the first movie they wrote himout of the movie. This time they
didn't write him out, but theydidn't have anything for him to do.
And in the show he was kindof the bumbling, fucking idiot, and
now to do that a couple oftimes here though. Yeah, but that
bumbling idiocy feels like it gets passedon to Dreben. Drebben in this movie

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feels more like a mix of Drebbinfrom the show and Nordberg from the show
being kind of a klutz. We'veseen the klutzy stuff in the first movie
with the pen with the fish andall that, but this movie he feels
like more cartoonish or verging on beingmore cartoonish. Yeah, there's more bits,
there's more. That's the joke.Wink wink, the you know,

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taking that little italy thing directly fromthe show. But now we've got Nordberg
noticing it. That's one of theirrules. No one's supposed to notice the
joke. And that's out the windowin these movies. Not only the mugging
that Leslie Nielsen does, and Iwouldn't call him mugging so much, but
Robert Goulay does the side glance afterevery stupid thing that Frank says. But

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you're calling attention to the joke.We know he said something stupid. The
audience knows it's stupid. You don'tneed to make a face. He makes
faces, The mine Heimer guy makesfaces, etc. Etc. So many
faces. Yeah, that drives menuts. Let the joke stand or fall

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on its own, But don't Idon't need the clue from Robert Goulay's face
that that was a joke. Yeah, that was a lot. Yeah,
there were a couple of times whereI was just like imagining them shooting the
insert shot of Goulay and just like, Okay, just look to the left
a little bit and then come back. You know, you just heard something
really stupid, and it's like,I don't need it. I realized it

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was a joke. The three handgag is brilliant. I love that.
Just I guess that would be anon sequitor Chris, I don't know.
I guess she slaps, you know. The third hand comes out of nowhere.
But then when we spend like ahalf a minute of him looking at
like where did that hand come from? It should have cut right after that

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the hand. It doesn't make anysense. That's the fucking joke. Why
do I need to understand where thehand came from? Or you as the
character, like where did that handcome from her vagina? I guess I
know we moved down a little bitfrom OJ, but I just wanted to
say that I prefer Peter Lupas.And I understand, like it's kind of

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nice seeing OJ get shit on andbeat up and a cactus to the nuts
and all those kind of things.But I really like Peter Lupas, and
I really like the way that heplayed Nordberg, and I liked his cluelessness,
that he was so sincere about stuff, that he was like taking the
locksmith job so seriously and all that. It's like that's great, and yeah,

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he wouldn't have done a second lookat something else. He would have
just kept on going. And yetplay it straight, and we have gone
away from playing it straight so farthat to your point, we get the
galay shots, we get ed lookingaskance, we get all of this,
and then yeah, we get franklike, where did that hand come from?
And I'm just like, oh mygod, no, it's got to

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be absurd. Just had let itbe absurd and move on. I feel
like OJ Simpson in this movie isjust a very obvious example of stunt casting.
They cast Oj. That's the jokeis that it's OJ Simpson, which
could theoretically work if you were makinghim do something absurd, but they're not,

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and so it doesn't really work asOh, it's just the OJ Simpson
Like all right, I guess OJSimpson in the late eighties early nineties was
celebrity enough, like but not reallylike. His career was more or less
over. At the time. Hewas essentially a has been athlete trying to
be an actor, and now he'sa whatever the fuck he claims to be

(31:36):
now attempting to be a human being. At this point. Fucking it pisses
me off that OJ's in these ina lot of ways because to your point,
by casting Oj, they forewent writingan actual character for Nordberg. In
the first movie, it feels likemakes perfect narrative sense. He's incapacitated in
the bed. That's part of theplot. And this what is the point

(31:59):
of his character? There is nopoint, And like I said, they
just merged the character from the showinto Dreben of the movies, and so
okay, so Dreben is now abumbling sincere idiot as opposed to essentially just
playing the character that Leslie Nielsen playedan airplane. Which I think is what
they've missed more or less in thesemovies is the base character of Frank Drebben

(32:22):
is so different from the show that, regardless of whether or not the movies
were tailoring themselves towards Police Squad,these movies were never going to be as
successful as the show because the characterFrank Drebban is so drastically different just from
the get go. The first timewe see him in that last movie,
he is a drastically different character thanthe last time we see him in the

(32:44):
show. Apparently a lot of thestuff that was in the script is in
the TV version of this, whichI thought there were some pretty funny gags
that they cut out, like thetank that goes through Savage's house that when
he pulled up in the tank thatthere's actually a hand that pops out of
the front and brings the doorbell.Like, I thought that was pretty funny,

(33:07):
and I was waiting for that inthe movie because I liked it so
much from the script. There's morewhen they're at the bar of Frank talking
about all the girls that he wentout with, because that goes on for
a long time. Ed is reallyfreaking out about how he just has sex
with Edna every single night, andit kind of like cut to him frothing
at the mont so quickly, andit should have just been more and more

(33:30):
and more of that stuff because itdoesn't really make sense. Yeah, those
are the things where when you saythat, then I think, yeah,
it doesn't make sense that he's frothingat that point, Right, What has
Frank really said up to that pointthat would have him doing that, So
knowing that there's something missing makes sense. There's a whole thing in that opening

(33:52):
scene where he steals a cigar outof a guy's mouth and it's just like
this is a Cuban cigar and thisis a contraband da da da, and
then you find out that he's actuallythe Cuban ambassador. Or when he talks
to Winnie Mandela, who just getsthe origin her head piece. In this
one, there's a whole thing wherehe thinks that she's Martha from Martha and

(34:12):
the Vandela's right. So yeah,there was a lot of like little things
in there. It's just like,oh yeah, like maybe he should have
left those maybe should have relied onthat college audience as much. Yeah,
Frank Drebin singing Bessme Bucho is muchfunnier. I like that. I like

(34:37):
the little czy top reference as well. That's kind of I mean, God,
these DVDs suck because I mean,thank god there's the audio commentaries,
but otherwise bare bones, so barebones. I can imagine. It's like,
come on, guys, give usall these deleted scenes, give us
the alternate version, the TV version. You know, it's no nothing.

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I mean, we'll talk about theextra scenes when we have a top gun
discussion, but you get three threeextra scenes and they're nothing to write home
about. There's a reason why theywere cut this one. It sounds like
there's some good scenes that they lefton the cutting room floor. Mike mel
top secret. Is there an explanationin this script as to why Meltormay is

(35:22):
at the dance? No? SoI was so happy to see him because
I know we've I thought the mildTormay was in one of these, and
I was so glad to show itup. But then I was like,
wait, is that Meltormay? Isthat it? Yeah? It gets as
much screen time as weird Al Yeah, yeah, it just goes oh darn
it, like yeah, sucks easyday, got that sagmentimum baby Yeah the

(35:45):
one line. Yeah, well,I mean, hey, you get to
be in the credits. That issomething I appreciate about these movies is in
the credits they just have who saidthe lie? I do like I appreciate
that, like, you know,yeah, why not? I love the
guy who he's on his crotch andwho dies too soon. That actor's name

(36:07):
is Rainer Shine, which is agreat joke name to itself. But he
I know a lot of people wouldprobably know from like ace Ventura. He
shows up in that, But Ireally like him in Fried Green Tomatoes where
he's yelling at Mary Elizabeth, what'sher name? And just like I'm gonna
find out girl the girl. Andhe always plays a great redneck, and

(36:30):
he wasn't a redneck in this one. It took me minute to even recognize
who he was. I also likethe guy who's uh, what is He's
like, He's like, well,if you're gonna be like that about it.
But I think it is the samescene as the next one. Who
else is dying here? Rainer Shinewas in was in what is it?

(36:51):
Ace Ventura as woodstuck? Is thatthe red or the white? That's what
I always remember at the Cannibal CorpseConcert of all fucking places. God,
and he was in the famous GhostDad, which I have yet to see.
I think we should do an episodeon that one of these days,
Oh dear God, a double featureof that in Leonard part six please,

(37:15):
oh yeah. And then we'll havesoul Man to round out this trio terrible
and then we'll just shoot ourselves inthe heads while we play ripped version of
Song of the South in the background. Just kill ourselves in tandem with it.
Odd Jesus Christ. I think oneof the other great police Squad esque

(37:38):
gags is her big ass shoes.Oh, like no reason. The kitchen
gag in this movie and all thegags in the kitchen are much better than
the first movie because they kind ofretread the same ground in this movie.
It feels like they don't have ascene between the two of them where she's
like exposition exposition, expositions. Act. At least, thank god, they

(38:01):
know how to transition a little bitmore seamlessly between acts in this movie.
But that thing. I always forgetthat gag with her like seven inch high
heels or whatever it is, becauseyeah, it's insane. I wonder if
Leslie Nielsen is on is wearing platformshoes as well or something, because he

(38:22):
looks taller too in that scene.Right, But every gag, yeah,
every gag in that scene is prettyis pretty great. The animals with their
names Puppy, Scruffy and Muffy andall that chicken baby pigs, big pig,
and then that weird quote that's attributedto Albert Camu for something but you

(38:46):
can barely make out. It goesby so rapidly. I'm surprised at how
much longer Leslie Nielsen lived because hewas looking very old in this movie.
I was looking really jacked in thatone scene where they recreated go if I
go back to him and he wasjust ripped. I mean, such a

(39:07):
stacked guy. I think that's oneof the best gags when she reaches into
the pants and you think she's gonnapull out a dick and it's just a
lump of clay. It makes nofucking makes the ash trail that was so
good. Yeah, that was sonice that it's like Jerry's off making Ghost
and David's making this one. Apparentlythat was the teaser trailer. They came

(39:30):
up with that for the teaser beforeI remember seeing that. Yeah, I
can't remember which movie it was thatthey said, oh, well, you
can get this attached to some bigrelease if you come up with a trailer.
So they came up with that.I mean, I don't know how
well it works in the movie.I frankly think it works better as the
trailer than it does in the movie. But I mean, again, like

(39:52):
that's one of those gags that nobody'sdoing that in twenty twenty two. Nobody's
doing that like two years later type. That's a specific topical gag that plenty
of movies at the time or TVshows or whatever we're parroting or kind of
sending up because it's such a famousscene. Obviously to the point where God

(40:14):
Mike Pottery and see if they tellyou too, don't do that goddamn scene
from Ghosts, don't do it.You were talking about the Simpsons, and
I was really reminded of them whenit came to the two commercials that we
get for the oil company. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of,
what the two tailed dog. Thetwo tailed dog is one and then the
other. I mean, especially withall the nuclear reactors and you know,

(40:37):
I say, get Blinky from theSimpsons, but the other one the all
of the ship captains that they're givingsobriety tests to. I mean, such
an exon Valdi's gag right there,and it's like, okay, yeah,
this this works. I Mean someof that was pretty biting, and I
appreciate it. That's the thing thatI think this movie lacks a little bit

(40:58):
is a bite to it with someof they say things like having Kaboom in
there is pretty good and all that, but there are times where I'm just
like, yeah, just be alittle meaner, you know, be a
little bit more Mad TV than SNL. Please, Yeah, they don't take
too many jobs at the powers thatbe. Being against corrupt businessman is a

(41:20):
pretty easy yeah. Wow, gotoo. So we say that radical.
What a novel concept that might bein twenty twenty two. I'm really surprised.
And you know, you mentioned allof the word play, which we
didn't get in the last episode orsorry, last movie very much at all.
So all of that stuff with KidColorado and all that kind of stuff,

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I was surprised that there wasn't morewordplay when it came to the I
love you as the code, LikeI was really thinking he was going to
have there I love it. Ithought that he was going to staff to
say I'd love it to so manyawful things. Hey, have you ever
had this? You know, Idon't know, cream cheese and locks.
It was something, I mean,I like cream cheese and locks, but

(42:05):
just I'm trying to think of likegross food, and just him I love
it right before they finally get inright the closest. I mean that they
heard I love it on the secondtime that he said it was amazing.
I thought for sure it'd be like, oh no, he has to keep
saying it like when he's getting frisked. I was like, Okay, that's
kind of funny, But I wasreally hoping they would go way out there

(42:29):
and like run that joke for liketwo minutes straight. It's kind of an
anti joke, right, because they'reusing it for a different They use it
for the joke of them being trappedin the in the van, which ain't
that funny. Like there's like twoseconds you see that they're trapped and Nordberg's
hanging upside down, Like to yourpoint, the I've been swimming in raw

(42:49):
sewage all day. I love it. That gag should have been a bigger
thing, like because it has theopportunity to be, and instead it's like,
no, we're gonna have this,like slaps Dicky saying that. If
you watch the trailer for the thirdmovie, which Beagley and I did after
we were done, they do thatgag again. In the third movie,
they do the exact same gag wherethey're trapped in the car and they can't

(43:10):
get out because they're parked in sucha way that the doors don't open.
They do it again, and it'slike, oh my fucking god, Like
it's not funny either way. Likethat, what makes that funny like at
all? Like just move your car. Yeah, I was expecting Robert Goulay
to detail what he was going todo to Frank, like all the torture

(43:34):
and then after each you know,I'm going to rip your pubic hair out
one by one. Oh great,I love it, you know, stuff
like that, and then, likeyou said, it's just the two things.
And then they're taking a hostage anyway, and the guys don't even come
in. Then there's no additional jokein the script there, right, Like
if I remember correctly, that's nota place that they cut, which is

(43:54):
weird because that gag feels perfect foradditional building. Right when he says the
code word is I love it,you're already going there. He's gonna have
to say I love it to allthese horrific things, Yeah, exactly,
we're doing your jobs for you,right, And then Robert du Lake can

(44:15):
do his eyes every time he saysit. Well, that's weird. He
married stilted delivery. I love theway he talks in this movie. I
also love that at one point he'splaying solitaire by himself in the middle of
this giant banquet room and he's justsitting there playing solitaire by himself, as

(44:37):
you do. Apparently has someone wholikes to be left alone. I kind
of get it, so it didn'tseem on to me. He did.
Like the gag that also takes placeat their warehouse when ed it gets so
mad and he takes his gun andbadge and puts him aside, just you

(44:57):
and me. I'm just a thatthey have that big fight, and then
I do appreciate when they cut backto him and he's just ass out on
the floor. Oh it hurts.Or when they're at the big reveal,
the big event that they're having,and when all of the guys stand up

(45:19):
and pull guns on their gates andlives, and then the uncomfortableness of the
looks that the women are giving tothe men afterwards. That worked, That
really worked. That feels like agag that should have been in Mafia.
I agree. You know, theytake their Gumar's hostage type of thing,
like, hey, I mean that'sthat's I mean again, like, but

(45:40):
that's why it works here. Also, you'll notice one of the guys who
stands up clearly looks like a JohnGotti must adjacent like the one standing very
I think closest to the camera.There are a lot of gags that work.
I mean, again, I don'twant to drag this movie, but
it feels a little repetitive having avillain doing a similar kind of thing,

(46:00):
and you know, the third movieis I think just as culpable, obviously,
just so we're all aware, butit's just kind of weird that they
do essentially the same thing again.Even though the villain his motivation is more
I guess makes more sense because heowns the oil company. It's less like
Ricardo Mouldibon just being I guess avillain for hire Moriarty style. Here,

(46:24):
it still feels like they're doing essentiallythe same thing, which I mean,
I guess the first movie worked somakes sense. This movie made a ton
of money as well, so Iwould have just liked to have seen maybe
a little bit more creative plot,just something more than just a big bad
guy played by someone famous, hashis henchmen do everything and then he dies

(46:46):
like that was the first movie,now it's the second movie. I guess.
The only thing I'm glad is theydon't do the is he or isn't
he a bad guy? To everybody? Else thing. You know, they
did that with Ricardo Mouldibon going toNancy Marshawn first movie. We don't get
that in this movie. Thankfully theydecide to leave that part of it out,
but feels like they could have donethat again. The closest we come

(47:07):
to that is the true Richard Griffithsand is this the bad one? Is
this the good one? Oh?How dare you be beating up that poor
crippled man? Those things? Andit's like, Okay, that actually is
kind of funny. And I dolike when Richard Griffiths pulls off his hair
and it's that long, lustrous browniehair. He makes that like noise cinema

(47:31):
sins time. Oh. I don'tthink they explicitly say what is wrong with
Meneheimer. I'm assuming he's paralyzed,That's what I would think. Yeah,
he wouldn't feel the still wool beingrubbed on his ass. Yeah. Maybe,
I imagine you have different sensations.You might not be able to beat,

(47:52):
but you might be able to feelstuff. Could be I mean,
I'm not sure if it's like thelittle guy in Alien Resurrection where the knife
falls into his leg and he justdoesn't feel it kind of thing, or
if you had that sensation great alienresurrection drop get talked about nearly enough.
We need to talk about their danceroutine, because it's that's right there baby,

(48:16):
oh yeah, before the mootie doucestuff, when they're just talking and
dancing. Yeah, oh yeah,that's pretty darn good it is. That's
got to be hard. It's verytop secret though, yes, yes,
yeah, that's right. I knewit seemed familiar having watched Top Secret in
ages they nailed. I wonder howlong it's ten to film that because it's

(48:38):
right on. Yeah. Speaking ofTexas switches, there's a really good one
when he falls or jumps down atone point and lands and then he gets
back up and it's one of myblanking lesi Nielsen there, and it was
a stuntman that fell down. Ithought that was pretty good. I mean,
they aren't doing the obvious ones otherthan the dancing couple from Afar,

(49:00):
like obviously you can tell that that'snot them, but what I know,
but they do a couple of thosewhere it actually looked like they were doing
it on purpose, like they weredoing it well and not pointing out that
it was the joke and They alsohave that one where he's I think it's
in this one where he's all messedup and then he just like cut and

(49:21):
he's fixing his hair and it looksall fine. It was very It's when
he drops in from the skylight,wipes his face off and then runs his
hands through his hair, and thenext shot he's perfectly clean, right,
which was like the two enforcer guysthat were beating him up at the locksmith's
shop, and how he is allbloody at one point and then looks absolutely
fine and the next shot. Yep. But it's a gag that works because

(49:44):
like, oh yeah, because it'slike a two second gag. You don't
have to like like in this movietowards the end of the movie, when
we kind of find out that Habsburg'splan was to blow the building up,
I guess because the other plan didn'twork, so he gotta have a plan
b right. Didn't appreciate that partwhere it's like, okay, so there's
a little bit of kind of uppingthe anti here. I like the gag

(50:06):
with oj on the roof. Also, I don't like that they repeat the
gag from the show because they don'tdo anything with it, but they don't
even do anything different. They havethis oj gag going on in the background,
which works rather well with the kindof the absurdity of this gun.
You know, they keep cutting awayand it's getting bigger and bigger than it's
essentially just a like an anti aircraftgun. But they have them doing that
exact same trash can gag again again. They did it twice in the show,

(50:31):
and though they're doing it here,is it funny? Not if you
don't do anything different it right?Yeah, do something different, like anything
anything, have him pick up thetrash can and hit him with it or
something. It's not as funny asthe show because, for one thing,
it's a woman that he's shooting atand it ends differently with is that when

(50:54):
she throws the wig at him?Isn't that where it's like every different version
he's like pulling the wig off thathappens before, has that how this scene
ends. But and they throw awaymore guns at each other, So it's
a little bit more detailed ways,different ways to go with this gag,
and they literally don't even do anything. They just do the barest, minimum

(51:15):
basic version of the gag. Again, who's going to remember who was The
benefit to these movies is again,most people who have watched them that are
my age may not have ever seenthe show and or know the show exists.
And now people watching them now aredefinitely not gonna have heard of the
show. And it was only sixepisodes, so they can't really be blamed.

(51:36):
They really can't. I'm sure thoughit played at this point between the
first movie and this, I'm surethe show was playing somewhere on cable maybe
maybe. I mean, again,what are you gonna do buy six episodes
of a show and just I meansome of those weird, although that wasn't
around them, but I could see, yeah, like USA or something,

(51:58):
Yeah, showing them. I mean, you've an MTV USA afternoon, come
and see what inspired the Naked Gun. And oh, Naked Gun two and
a half is coming out, sowe're going to play all day Saturday afternoon,
We're going to run this and thenthey'll play so many commercials in there
that it will take ten hours toplay six episodes. Now, I think

(52:22):
you're right. I think you're rightwith that. It's kind of surprising that
they didn't do that because I wantto say, at some point and I'm
trying to remember which of the moviesit is. It may have even been
the third one where Leslie Nielsen showedup in the WWF as fucking Frank Drebin

(52:42):
looking for the Undertaker. Really,yeah, it's so fucking weird, and
I'm trying to remember where it isbecause I wanted to send it to y'all,
But I want to say it's inbetween the second and the third one.
But yeah, he shows up asFrank Drebin in care in the WWF
at the time on the hunt forthe Undertaker. Who had I want to

(53:05):
say, just gotten into it washe was he was feuding with Kane or
no, was this This may havebeen when there was the Undertaker and then
the Underfaker, because the Undertaker wentaway for a while and then a guy
came back who clearly didn't look likethe Undertaker, so they brought Frank Drebbin
into find the real Undertaker. Butthere were all these like weird vignettes of

(53:28):
Leslie Nielsen as Frank Drebben in theWWF doing the kind of police squad thing,
bumbling around I want to say,in the WWF arenas and out in
the world looking for the Undertaker.Wow, that's wild, huh. To
your point, that was on USA. So that's why I bring it up
because I think to your point,like I would have at some point like

(53:50):
run these episodes or something, becauseyou do have prior stuff. I mean,
again, the success of those thingsis kind of up to the person
programming, but at least the firstcouple episodes would have done something to maybe
ignite interest in this ip that.Again, I don't know if it's been
shuttled at the time, but Idon't think people were clamoring for a police

(54:13):
squad movie. I really don't thinkthey were. No, though, this
one did better at the box officethan the previous one, which is almost
unheard of. I think at thispoint, like it makes perfect sense,
right because the first movie was extremelysuccessful. Yeah, and it's a better
film. Took all of our points. I think we all said that we
liked this one better. I thinkit's a better made film, which is

(54:34):
surprising since it's not the three creators, it's just Proft and Zucker, but
you know, hey, it works. And then them cribbing from their own
stuff with at least eight or ninejokes, and the one joke that I
think really lands is Gooley getting awayand then the lion need him. But
it's amazing, I made us payoff. That is the best payoff. Yeah,

(54:57):
it's the greatest joke in any Zaz or any of these movies.
The payoff is just and the factthat it so you get the zoo and
you have him with the baboons,and then you have in the next scene
a giraffe running by. Yeah,and then I think there's like one or
two voiceovers or eighty yards where it'slike, you know, at the zoo
today, you know, animals brokeloose, and then you there's nothing until

(55:20):
that thing at the end, right, an elephant goes by a building at
some point, but it's still quitea ways off from the end. Man,
you've forgotten about it by the Yeah, when that lion gets him at
the end, it's so fucking good. It's just it's great. It's better
than the Ricardo Malti bond being smushed. It is the best joke in any
of these movies. That payoff isjust sublime. You know what, Chris

(55:43):
I when I just read and Iapologize for this, it is when Frank
falls through the glass and is capturedby a pollution group Quentin goes through a
detailed explanation of how he'll be torturingFrank before killing him. So there's our
I love it joke right there.Didn't realize that there was more to that,
okay, so yeah, so therewas then, so yeah, and
look, I mean it makes sensethat they leave spots in these movies for

(56:06):
them to cut jokes out, butthat, for me, is not one
of those jokes they should have cutout. That would just because you could
get really really strange with what he'shaving, him saying, yeah, take
it for a walk, man,it's okay. Might as well they take
other some of these other gags forJohns around the park, like this was
one worth doing. And then youhave those strange non sequitors, like the

(56:30):
reference to the Twilight Zone with theHow to Serve Man it's a good book
and he's like someone else. Itmade me laugh. Yeah he was in
that episode though, so right right, And I was just like, okay,
well that's cool. So all right, I mean I like non sequitors,
and I thought that was pretty funny. But I'm just like that versus

(56:51):
more of the I love it thing. I might have gone with more of
the I love it thing. Imean, it's a cookbook takes ten seconds
to do. I just always geta kick out of the fact that his
son is Ellis and die Hurd.Every time I see Lloyd Bochner, I
think of Hart Bochner and then ohyeah, I'm playing an asshole. So
often I watched sixty minutes to sayto myself, these guys are professional,

(57:15):
they motivated, they're happening. Ieat, they want something, huh,
Hans, Bobby your White Knight.Oh god, he's one of the best
characters ever. Come on, he'ssuch a good character that they made a
character like him in every other dieHard on a movie. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yep. Every time theywere like, got to have that

(57:37):
Ellis character, the baddie. Yeah, the bad guy who thinks he's a
good guy who turns out to getkilled by the actual bad guys. Like
put him in every movie. Hans, I'm all about method, but put
the gun down. I think thethird act of this movie obviously not as
strong as the third act of thefirst movie, but I think the first
and second act of this movie makeupfor kind of a lacking third act.

(58:00):
I think the first two acts inthis movie are really solid. The third
act in the first movie I thinkis probably as good as any of this
stuff ever is. Frankly, Ithink the third act in that first movie
just hits so many notes and somany different notes so perfectly, and it
kind of just has everything. Ithink this movie better overall than the first

(58:22):
one. But that third act inthe first movie I think will be for
me the best thing out of maybeall of this, other than the first
Police Squad movie. An obviously Airplane, which kind of stands alone in all
of this. Still I think Airplanestands alone, which is funny, like
Airplane has the Frank Drebin character init in a lot of ways at least
proto Frank Drebin. So I thinkAirplane still really does stand alone for me.

(58:45):
But this is better than most everythingelse we've seen up until this point.
I would say for me, it'sand I know we're kind of wrapping
the show a little bit early sincewe have one more episode to do,
but I would say Airplane is thetop. And then I'd say at least
two or three episodes of Police Squadare right up there for me, the

(59:06):
ones that I really remember. I'dsay, like probably chronologically, the first
three episodes, especially the first one, those are rock solid to me,
and then you start to get diminishingreturns after that. Yeah, I think
I can confidently say the final movieis not going to be anybody's favorite's.
You watch the preview for it,and I think you get a pretty good

(59:29):
idea of where it's going and thejokes that it's mining. And it's unfortunate
because again, this movie has someof those topical jokes. The third movie
just starts really leading on them.They're blowing up the Academy Awards. Just
imagine the kinds of topical nineties AcademyAwards jokes you're going to be getting.

(59:50):
And that is the third act ofthat movie, similar to the way The
Dodgers Angels Fake Stadium is the thirdact of the first movie. It becomes
exactly what scary movie and in alot of ways what Mafia is, where
it's oddly specific stuff, but withsomething like Mafia, it works because that's
the entire movie is just that.With Naked Gun, it's like Naked Gun

(01:00:12):
doesn't need to try and be scarymovie or epic movie or disaster movie.
And we see some of it here, but it's, you know, an
airplane does it rather deftly, Ithink with the Jaws stuff, but it
doesn't really do anything other than beinspired by that bass plot and then go
from there, like when you startreferencing other things in your movie, you've
really lost sight of what made thisfun to begin with. Hey, we

(01:00:37):
get a cigarette gag in this one. I missed that red van. Yes,
I know, yes, I know, all right, good one boy.
There. It is the thing atthe end when he's talking about all
of the horrible characters. I thinkthis is Bush talking about it, just
all the low lives and scum andall this. And then at Frank,

(01:01:00):
sis, you want me to workin your cabinet? Right, No,
he's heating up national branch of policesquad, a federal branch, the FBPS,
Yes, which is what Frank alwayswanted. Apparently. Yeah, there
was a nice touch there when hewas giving his speech and the whole deal

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with the fake Meinheimer was happening,I noticed on this watch, and so
I could actually hear that everything thatBush was saying was happening in that He's
like, we're gonna cut the tiesto whatever, and that was when he
cut the rope that holds the sandbagand then we're gonna impact and that's when
he hits his head and all that. I was like, Oh, I

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like that. I also liked whenFrank was giving his speech at the end
and he's doing one of those whatthey called the pat Proft runs of all
the things that he wants to do, like I want to be able to
eat a sea ot or without gettingsick. All the Frank juniors of the
world. I went to a seveneleven without an interpreter. Oh that was

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little, Yeah, throwing a littlexenophobia in there for measure. Yeah,
casual at this point, just casual. Don't worry. Well, well,
it seemed out of place in therest of the movie, though, don't
worry. We'll amp the xenophobia whenwe do an American Carol. David's got
it covered with that one. Iwant to say, an American Carol will

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totally redeem all of this, andLeslie Nielsen will be there, so oh
yeah. And I'm trying to rememberwhat movie it is that they either a
movie or a TV show that theyjust openly lift from when it comes to
a suicide bomber training video, becauseI remember when I covered that on the
projection booth and that whole thing islifted from something else completely. You're a

(01:02:49):
braver man than me to be coveringthat movie. Oh boy, Yeah,
yeah, that was something. Itmakes the Third Naked Gun Movie look like
Bergman Seventh Seal. It really does. Like boy, God, American Carol
is just it's not even a movie, is that. It's an experimented filmmaking

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experimental film man. Yeah, goodstuff. Yeah, I guess when that's
what happens when you don't rain yourpeople in. That's I mean, that
is the problem with kind of allof these movies is varying degrees of needing
to be rained in. Obviously,we've had the political stuff which kind of
overtakes this movie, which totally shouldhave been rained in by somebody. The
literalism in this movie kind of neededto be rained in. Some of the

(01:03:36):
jokes that got rained in I don'tthink should have been rained in. But
I think in a lot of thesemovies, you see in an Airplane when
they talk about it, the amountof time they spent really crafting that movie
and running those jokes and they didn't. It just doesn't feel like they did
it with these movies, and theycould have and they should have. I
don't know why. Maybe it's becausethey're so successful and they just need to

(01:03:58):
make another one and they can't bebothered. But it really feels like Airplane
was gone over with a fine toothcomb and these movies were not, and
that is a shame. Well,it makes me want to go and check
out what Jim Abrams was doing,which was I think right at this same
time was when the hot Shots franchisestarted. Yeah, hot Shots was ninety

(01:04:21):
one this. Yeah, I lovehot Shots. That first one is you
know the wait what do you do? Hey? You in there? The
fucking Walleye thing. Yeah, Ilove hot Shots. I watched it,
I think last year, the yearbefore. It still holds up. I
don't even like Top Gun. Iknow the plot of Top Gun because of

(01:04:43):
hot Shots. Yeah, ever seenit? I remember hot Shots being better
than this, even though I likethis a lot, like I think hot
Shots, I think just it's kindof like Airplane Light. I remember remembering
it like Airplane Light, and Ithink you might be agreed with me,
right like kind of if I rememberit. It's even got Lloyd Bridge is
in it. It does yeah,and he's playing the see the idiot in

(01:05:06):
that one is the present or thegeneral or whatever the role is that he's
doing, and he's the one gettingabused kind of like nord Burgess in this
one. Right, he's playing LeslieNielsen in that movie in a little bit
of a way basically is yeah,and I mean Taper Harley, he isn't
the smartest ball, but he's apretty good protagonist, and I don't I

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don't think you're actively rooting for himto like get smacked around or anything.
He should be the smarter character,right, the character that Dreben is on
the show a lot of right timesexactly. Yeah. I mean you've got
dead meat there to take a lotof the brunt of stuff as well.
Yeah. Yeah, God just makesme want to watch that movie now.
Yeah, which is weird too becauseit was also written by Pat Proft,

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so it was Abrams and Proft islike Proft is there with all of these
movies, which is just kind ofan odd thing that Abrahams and Zucker split
off and Proft as they're connecting thetwo and as far as I know,
there's no bad blood at this timebetween any of them. They're all just
doing their own individual things. He'sthe ringo of the group. Yeah,

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go and play on everybody else's albumsexactly. And the thing that I don't
remember is is wrongfully accused bad?Or is spy hard bad? Or are
they both bad? I've never seenbecause Pat Proft is the one who's all
over wrongfully accused pronfully accused. Hewrote directed that one solely, and that's

(01:06:38):
the only thing he wrote and directing. The thing that this show has made
me curious of is not who isthe weak link, but whose style out
of this group of four people Iam not the biggest fan of. I
don't want to say who I thinkit is right now, but I think
it's becoming more apparent the more ofthese movies we watch. Who I'm seeing

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as probably less in tune with mypersonal comedic taste. To be diplomatic,
as they would say, Yeah,it almost makes me want to go and
watch a lot of these lesser LeslieNielsen films like what was it two thousand
and one? A Space? Wasit Hoddity or something? I can't remember,

(01:07:20):
but he, I mean didn't knowhe did one of those dead loving
and possessed a Space travesty Mike ASpace travesty, thank you, because I
didn't want to get it confused withthe creature wasn't nice because I think he
was in that as well, Butthat was like nineteen eighty, that was
right after Airplane. But yeah,like that space travesty. Fucking DVD cover

(01:07:44):
cracks me up. Leslie Nielsen justgoing, oh yeah, literally, Bay,
I'm gonna look this up. Thecover. It's so good. Oh
man, oh, Leslie. Hewanted to be a funny man so badly.
I watched Repossessed when we did anepisode on Exorcist too, so that

(01:08:05):
I could be complete man again.That movie whoa, I've only seen clips
from it. I really didn't diveinto his oh boy later filmography. I
think after this movie. I believeI saw this in the theater, may
have rented it once, but Ibelieve these last two times were the third

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and fourth time I've ever seen NakedHave Gone Too Half. I think this
was the second time I've ever seenit as well. I think I watched
this one more than I watched thefirst one. To be perfectly honest with
I think if I were to watchone, it would be this one again.
Yeah, for that feeling of policesquad that it gave me. It's
kind of ironic too, because,if memory serves, Leslie Nielsen would go

(01:08:51):
on to play basically George W.Bush in the Scary Movie franchise Movie three,
Yeah, where is telling him aboutthe tragedy that's happened, and he's
just like, you know, Igot to find out what happens with the
goat. They just like us.Yeah, the PE's out of his finger.

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Yeah, Leslie Nielsen and Scary Moviethree is just Scary Movie three is
the only one of those post firstones that I think really works, and
Leslie Nielsen actually is a big partof why it works because he is really
funny and he's essentially just playing PresidentLeslie Nielsen. So I think I liked
part of four because I think fouris the one with the that's like the

(01:09:38):
ring parody with Charlie Sheen at thebeginning. No, I think that's five,
is it? Whichever one is tradingon Charlie Sheen Tiger Blood at the
beginning always cracks me up. Topicality. I couldn't make it past that scene.
I honestly couldn't. That was paranormalactivity they were doing with that one.
Topicality and this is coming from someonewho saw Charlie Sheen live at the

(01:10:00):
Boy. It was as good asyou would expect. Yeah, I mean
people screaming at Charlie Sheen from theaudience, which was just, well,
you're screaming at the person you paidto see to be here, but okay,
I'm doing what live. It wasjust like Charlie Sheen's like just like
talking Jesus. It's like stand up. I mean I don't understand stand up
either, Like I watch stand up, but I won't go pay money to

(01:10:24):
see it, like I just it'sweird to me. I'll pay a lot
to see people do live music,but I would never go see Charlie Sheen
again. If I could go backin time, I wouldn't go to that
show other than to see a groupof people screaming at a local DJ and
calling him a piece of shit,which was kind of funny because they had
like a local DJ like interviewing him, and anytime he was talking, people

(01:10:45):
in the audience were like, shutthe fuck up, go home. Nobody
cares let Charlie Sheen talk. Andit's like, oh my god, wow,
I can smell this group still justlike AX and four loco. It's
like winning. I don't know,man, I was banging seven Graham rocks
and finishing them because that's how Iroll. I have one speed, I
have one gear go. So weare wrapping it up next week when we

(01:11:10):
come back and talk about Naked Gunthirty three in the third, because there's
nothing kids like more than LP jokes. Did it to yourself with the two
and a half, you had tocome up with something else. You didn't
come up with pot so they couldhave just had three point three three three

(01:11:33):
three three three three or something.Only an idiot would do that. That
next movie is not even directed bya Zucker or an Abrahams. It's a
completely different name, which I think, lets you know what's fucked up is
the guy who's directing it. Didany of them write it? Why are
we doing this one if they're notone of the and Proft is one of

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the writers as well. Okay,Peter Siegel is the one who directed.
I mean he directed Just Trying toout of It, which is a fantastic
movie, but not gonna getting outof it. That easy back Buckle Up
Boys thirty three and a third isis it's a rough ride. Oh boy,
again, only saw it once,so I don't think i've seen it.

(01:12:17):
I'm so excited. It's got fredWard. Oh fred Ward. Yeah.
They show that TCM has there inmemorium clip out right now and he's
one of the ones we lost thisyear. It's a white Heat parody with
that, isn't it like it's himand his mo? Yeah? Okay,

(01:12:39):
yeah, So they break him outof prison. There's a whole like prison
break. There's like, ah,I want to say, there's like nuts,
Shoshank wouldn't have been Would Shohank havebeen out at the time? M
no, yeah, ninety four?I think it was. Yeah, Shoshank
was the same year. There's alot of just like prison. I don't
know. There's a lot of lowhanging fruit. Tagline for the poster says

(01:13:01):
mostly all new jokes and they're notlying. Well. I am very curious
seeing because I remember that pap Shmiris coming back. So yeah, Ray
Burke is back. Yeah yeah,I can't wait to see it. So
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