Hold on!! What??- 🏈 Fantasy Football Q&A "From the Forum"

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
What's up, everybody. It's Friday night, nine o'clock. I got
a crew in the house that is ready to let
you know what's up. I hope everybody had a killer week.
This show is gonna be packed foot full of goodness.
We're gonna talk about some free agency nonsense. We're gonna
talk about some crazy hot takes. These guys are gonna

(00:48):
bring across the calls that everybody else is scared to
say and let you know why you need to make
those moves. We're gonna have a good time. We're talking
about some rookie shakedown and of course we are here
to answer your questions, Dynasty, rookie profiles, whatever you need
to know, drop it in the chat. We are here
for you. What is up?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Fellon man? You know, I mean, like I said, any
day on this side of there, it's a good one.
And anytime I get to talk that talk about the
guys I'm gonna talk about We're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
We are going to talk about I mean, and even
Coach up there, he's already got he's got the thing.
He's inquisitive, ready to deliver the knowledge, you know. And Aaron,
I'm going to throw you to the tank right off top.
And you know, the free agency thing has been crazy. Obviously,
everybody following what's happening with Rogers, what's happening with Russ?

(01:47):
What are the Steelers going to do at quarterback? You know,
and it has been nonsense. And we thought, you know,
the Giants signed Jamis and everybody's like, okay, this is good.
Maybe Malik Nabe is like a you know, maybe he
shows out because we know James saying Fred to throw
it down field, pick or not, you know, and then

(02:08):
they follow that up with signing Russell Wilson. What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's just amazing that everyone still has them projected to
be taking a quarterback with what what do they have?
Three or the six? I think it's a three right
third overall. So they just went and brought in two
veteran quarterbacks, and I think that tells you how they
feel about this quarterback class same way I feel. I
don't like it very much. So it kind of lowers
my confidence in the rookie quarterback class. And I feel

(02:39):
like I liked it a lot better for fantasy with Jamison.
There another thirty thirty season there, but rust is scary
not sure. I want that. It's gonna be a messy situation.
Like last year, you're gonna have everyone drafted?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Was it last year?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Half Wilson, half fields hoping, you know, to get that
one guy. I think it's a messy situation, and I
don't know. My ultimate takeaway is the rookie quarterback class
socks it does.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's funny. I'm sitting there, let's looking at JC and
his his name is Chef Door Sanders, and obviously you know,
uh Shader had his Pro day today, And I mean,
is it that bad, JC? Like? Or is the quarterback class?
Is Sanders that bad that they would rather have Russell
Wilson or Jamis Winston overtaking him this year?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
With the three I'm gonna quote the great philosophizer who
I was able to learn football under as a youth,
the great Hugh Freeze, an Auburn legend head coach. You Freeze,
if you got two quarterbacks, you don't have any. And
right now the Giants have two quarterbacks and they don't
have any. They don't have a long term answer in
any way, shape or form. So yeah, go ahead, get

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my namesake in there, Get chev Door Sanders in there.
Let's get him throwing some bombs to the league neighbors.
Let's unlock the potential of one hundred and seventy targets.
What that really can look like if you don't have
teamsters and and and future in future garbage men and
Daniel Jones throwing them the football. Like, let's see what
it really looks like if you get an NFL quarterback

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in there. Now, is shaduor limited? Sure? I mean, is
his ceiling probably peaked? Bengals Andy Dalton? Yeah, but that's
still really good in terms of actual NFL football. So
I don't think do I think that this class is
anywhere near twenty twenty four? No, but it never was

(04:28):
going to be. So we're talking about six quarterbacks drafted
in the top twelve versus you have one clear cut
guy and another guy behind him, and then we're steaming
up one dude because you do that every single year.
A guy that probably should go in the second round
is gonna go in the first round. And we're doing
it again with a dude with seventeen broken clavicles and

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a broken fibula and Tyler Schuck And I mean, is
it as good as last year? No? But is it
as bad as everybody makes it seem. No, Like Shador
Sanders is an NFL starter, Jackson Dart might be an
NFL starter. Cam Ward is my quarterback for the next
fifteen years. War Daddy Ward two tone Blue. Let's go baby,
But Okay, what I'm saying is I just want, I want,

(05:12):
I want you Sanders to land in a situation that
sucks because all he's done since he left high school
is turned around two programs and make them culturally relevant
in the greater landscape of college football, whereas nobody gave
a crap about them beforehand. So I will release the floor.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I have a rebuttal.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm an IDP guy here, and I think who the
Giants should select is the guy who actually made Colorado relevant,
and that's Travis Hunter. And from an IDP guy, it's
perfect because on half of Russell Wilson's throws, he's going
to get a reception and the other half he's going
to get a tackle after.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
The go there we go. I like how you're thinking, baby,
I like how you're thinking. Aaron all right, the Patriots
saying of IDP, I love it. I honestly I think
that I think that you're right. I mean, without question,
Travis Hunter is the one on one in any IDP league.
I mean, it's not even it's not even a question.
You could get the JJ Watt from twenty twelve or

(06:10):
thirteen or whatever it was where he was moonlighting as
a tight end, but get that on steroids. You know.
So I agree with you wholeheartedly. I mean I think
I do think that Travis Hunter it should belong, like
belongs in the top three or top four whatever. He's
he's the best talent in the draft.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Step said, I was right. That's all I needed to hear. Thanks, everyone,
have a good night.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Hey, it's the moneyball approach. What's happening with the Giants.
They're just going at from the standpoint they know it's
going to run up on cam Moore, Shad or Sanders
in all likelihood Jackson Dart. This is just a tell
on Jackson Dart that the Giants aren't necessarily convinced be it.
Maybe they would trade back, but it's no guarantee. So
you ensure something, you ensure nothing right. If you're double

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in shored, double indemnity, it's not something you want to
go for. You have Jamie Winston. You have Russell Wilson.
It's funny enough. Jameis Winston was eleventh and interceptable passes
in twenty twenty four. Russe Wilson eleven and money throws
in twenty twenty four. So the moon ball is still
there for Russell Wilson. But it's funny enough. Ironically, we
prefer Jamis Winston form Eleak Neighbors. Chev said it beautifully

(07:19):
off the rip one hundred and seventy targets last season
was first four, Milak Neighbors first and drops ten, So
there's more goodness to be had out there first and
target share from Elik Neighbors thirty four percent. Imagine two
more games from Eleak Neighbors we could get towards the
one ninety two hundred mark in targets. Remember what happened

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with Melik Neighbors weeks two through four was going absolutely
Ham Neighbors by the receiver three, four and six those
three weeks gets that concussion on Thursday Night football, and
of course there was just a little bit of a
lag there missing the two games. I really love this
move for Lak Neighbors. What we want to squeeze the

(08:01):
juice out for this move. So Russ, it's maybe disgusting
from a future and real NFL standpoint, but it is
absolutely beautiful for our fancy goodness in comparison to what
it was last year. And that shows you how bad
things were last year. So it's another man's trash is
another man's treasure, and believe it or not, Malik Neighbors

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is going to get it. The pressure is off, but
the Giants are likely going to strike out at quarterback
in the draft and they're going to push towards something
for twenty twenty six. Right now, they've got nobody. But
there is double indemnity that exists in the fact that
if you get Jamis or James Winston, hey, we're cashing checks.

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Fancy wise, we're already going to cash it with Russell
Wilson and Malik Neighbors. So it's double indemnity that's there
and exists. And this is a good thing for Milie
Neighbors in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Come on, we got all admit.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
The reason we like Winston as his quarterback is he's
the meme of closing.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
His eyes saying fuck it.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Neighbors down there somewhere, absolutely, you know he.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Doesn't even care.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, he doesn't care. He's like, he's like, if it's
a pick, who cares, I'll get another turn in like
ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like, oh, you know, he doesn't. He literally does not care.
He said on Busting with the Boys, he said, there'll
never be a quarterback break my record. They don't have
the confidence.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, he's like, he's like, I trust.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
In God, and I think he had the one player
in the NFL where people really they're not going to
hold him to it. They're not going to give him
a hard time for No, you did thirty one way,
you do thirty the other. They're not going to hold
him to it. He's got the coolest job in the
NFL because there's really no accountability that he has to have.

(09:45):
He can just be funny.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, speaking of that, speaking of the Giants, another man's trash,
Another man's treasure, Danny Dimes makes his way to Indianapolis
and apparently enters a open quarterback competition with Anthony Richardson.

(10:08):
They have said open quarterback competition? Are you buying it?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Chev?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
There's nothing I hate more than this question. This is
just nothing I hate more than this question. I so
one I have been a Daniel Jones Denier since since
his inception as an NFL quarterback. I saw a game
at Duke Wad he through for fifty nine yards against
against the worst Miami team, and I said, there's no

(10:37):
way that this dude's an NFL quarterback. And I saw,
I saw Melko. I have been a Daniel Jones denier
since he was drafted, and I stand on that. I
just don't think he's very good. So the problem is
I watched Anthony Richardson at Florida as a Florida fan,
and he's not very good either, And it just it's

(10:58):
just it's too It is two homeless people fighting over
the last piece of bread and who's gonna draft arch
Manning in twenty twenty six. It's it is the worst.
It is the worst possible scenario for Colts fans. Now,
as a Titans fan, I love this. I couldn't be
happier about it, just watching, just watching two dudes just
bum fight in the street over who's gonna throw the

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most interceptions this year and or check out of the
game for various reasons. So yes, make it an open competition.
Neither one of them is good. They're not good. Like,
so one of them gives you crazy rushing upside. Potentially
maybe possibly.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Apparently Daniel Jones also gives you crazy rushing up side.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Hey, hey, I got something on that. I got something
on that A twenty twenty two various reasons, right, we'll
call it various reasons advance rushing in twenty twenty two
for Daniel Jones fourth and carries for quarterbacks fifth and
carries per game, fourth and red zone carries in rushing
yards fifth in rushing yards per game at forty four

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point three, we're just a couple of years removed from that.
For Daniel Jones. He can cook in the rush game.
And I actually really like it for Josh downs because
Wandale Robinson can collect ten to fourteen targets. It could
be trash targets because of a trash old line. If
we get an improvement on the old line for various
reasons with the Colts, then we got Daniel Jones feeding

(12:25):
in some Josh downs. So I actually like it. There's
some life. It's a low bar. We're in a low
bar society here, But give me Daniel Jones right now
for some fancy goodness to squeeze out on your Atni
Mitchell's your Josh downs Michael Pittman. I guess, but yes,
I don't mind it at all.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I appreciate you, coach, I do. But you really lost
me at the phrase Daniel Jones can't cook.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Like the this is still cooking.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah it is, I mean it is. It is. It
is potted meat in a in a a in a
saucer on the stove, but he could cook.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I get to go two things here. First, let me
be on the Live Draft show with chev if the
Titans somehow managed to pass on a quarterback and he
realizes he has Will Levis as his quarterback. Compared to
this shit show, how exploded to be wonderful? This is
gonna be bush right. This is like when the rookie
quarterback gets drafted and the coach says, well, we're gonna

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make them work for the job.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
They're giving this to Richardson and it's just something to
lay the fire under his ass. This isn't real, right, No, it's.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Not real at all. But they're all fighting for their
jobs and they're trying to convince us that it's an
open quarterback competition. So they're gonna go with the guy
the GM that drafted Anthony Richardson is still there. He's
still there, He's in the building, he's he's still drafting people.
He's gonna be in charge of this draft right here.
And they brought in Daniel Jones for fourteen million dollars

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to feign the appearance that there's a quarterback competian. But
they're just trying to get Anthony Richardson to care about
being a professional more.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I don't know what the next topic for my Fantasy
Pros article will be, but if I can find a
way to work in the two bums fighting over a
piece of bread analogy, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna quote you there.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Chev that's the best analysis I've seen all year.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
But it's crazy. I've never been you guys know, I've
talked about the show a million times. I'm not a
fan of Anthony Richardson. I thought he was going to
be a bus coming in. There's no way that you
go to score school like Florida and you don't keep
your team above five hundred. It's crazy to me. Like
a good quarterback elevate squads. We see it. A good
quarterback can go a bad team and that bad team

(14:40):
at least becomes relevant. Right, Tim Tebow was able to
lead him to you know, like lead them positively, lead
to Denver, le hold on, lead Denver to the playoffs. Right,
tbo can lead Denver to the playoffs. Right. We know
he's not a good quarterback. We know he's not a

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good quarter I'm not saying that he's a good quarterback,
but you know, like a good quarterback. If he can
do it, why can't Anthony rich He's not a good quarterback.
Like period, you know he's not a good quarterback. Now,
I don't know if there's a way that they can
use him in the future, uses legs, get him on
the football. He's definitely a big athlete. But he's another
one of those stories. And you mentioned it Earliership where

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the combine does everything. Like you look at his tape.
His tape's not great. You look at his record, his
stats in college not great. Basically, he came in the combine.
He had some electric combine markers and it created a
crazy narrative we saw with Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson at
BYU was nothing and then at the combine he makes

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that crazy throw off of his back foot, which by
the way, Sam Dartill made the same throw at his combine.
You know, makes that crazy throw off his back foot,
and all of a sudden, we're talking about him being
a top five caliber quarterback, you know, somebody worth a
top two pick. And it happens every year. They when
they don't have anybody, they try to make a narrative
out of one of these players. And it's crazy the

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GN well, the GM at Tennessee like or the GM
at Indeed, it's crazy that after making that pick, like
somehow he's still there, Like it feels like that that
team is quitting on him.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Influenced by cocaine use.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Fourth he's only played fifteen games. Like I'm not really
an Anthony Richardson fan either, but he's been hurt so much.
It's only been I was college.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You look at his college the cow many games he
actually played.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
He started thirteen games in college, and he rotated with
a dude that might be playing Arena two football right now,
like they were rotating. They were bringing him in and
you know, everybody remembers the very first game of the
season against Utah where he does the jumping spin throw
where he jumps, he spins the guy like fakes a
guy out, and he runs into the end zone. He's
super athletic. The problem is he's not using his legs

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the way he did. He's not using his legs the
way he did. He started doing it, he started doing
it towards the end of the year when after he
got benched. That's the thing that gives me a little
bit of hope. But it also it just hasn't It
hasn't clicked as a thrower yet, you know, just not
even in a manner in which it's like acceptable. Like

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we're talking forty seven point nine percent completion percentage in
twenty twenty four. That's worse. That's the worst mark in
the history of the NFL with the amount of attempts
that he had. And so you're talking about a guy
who groomed Jalen Hurts, who got Jalen Hurts, made Jalen
Hurts a fantasy superstar, and we're just missing the mark
with Anthony Richardson. The thing that we don't talk about

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is Anthony Richardson didn't have near the amount of college
starts that Jalen Hurts had. He's not made of the
same stuff that Jalen hurts is where I can get
benched and just be the ultimate teammate until it's my
time to go somewhere else I can go. I can
go finish second in the Heisman and then go in
the second round to a hundred million dollar quarterback and
supplant him in, you know, in my first year, because

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teams see how the team sees how hard I prepare.
That's the opposite. That is the antithesis of what Anthony
Richardson is. It's just not like it's just not there.
I want it to be there really bad because if
it hits, that is two point zero he breaks fantasy.
But it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, we were hoping for Joe Flacco starts last year.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah I know. See see football stopped happening and we
forgot that we were clamoring for Joe Flacco. So Josh
Downs could be relevant.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Which is why Jones can cook. No, hold on, who
would you prefer for Jonathan Taylor out of the backfield
in the PPR League, Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Give me the running quarterback.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, I want the running quarterback. It is proven if
you have a good, strong running quarterback, it opens up
lanes for your back. So from the running back side,
I would rather have Anthony Richardson, just like you see
with Lamar. Any running back that runs for the Ravens,
it doesn't matter if it's Gus Edwards, Keith Mitchell, Derek Henry,
it don't matter who it is. Somebody on a bum
leg can run for the Ravens and they're going to
be successful because the linebackers have to play.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Honest to Lamar, chance, do you think right now it's
Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Jones Week one.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Eighty five one, I don't think that this is the
passing playbook for the Colts with Anthony Richardson at quarterback.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Okay, so Anthony Anthony Richardson rushed for four ninety nine
last year. Daniel Jones in twenty twenty two rush for
seven hundred and eight yards. So I think they're both
the rushing quarterback and they're both only I think they're
both running backs.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Okay, that might be this whole time.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, yeah, before before we left field, because that's.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
For various reasons. They're both running backs.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
That's gonna take us down a whole nother like it
JTV win like. I know this is not the context,
but it's gonna take us down a well, well, well
we're gonna be stuck in a giant hole that's not
gonna progress this show at all. So no, I mean,
I think that we're in consensus. The Colts, they're gonna

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have to do something, And you know, it almost feels
I'm gonna throw this out here. It almost feels like
the Colts history and the Giants history both decided this
year they're gonna go with bum quarterbacks, take it as
it goes, and essentially maybe get a legacy quarterback with

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a last name of both of their probably top tier
prime quarterbacks in history of the franchises.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Well, here's a question on that. Does that mean? So,
since you have the Colts at fourteen and we view
the Giants at three as wanting to be out on
Jackson Dart, does that then give us a tell that
Jackson Dart is going to fall past fourteen for the
Colts lower into the first round.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I have them to the Steelers at twenty one or
twenty two.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yep, seen that a lot. So do you think the Colts,
in their estimation do what the Giants do same as
Tyler is saying how they're similar in pass on Jackson
Dart because they don't see Dart as the guy.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean, I think that they probably. I mean, if
it seems like Tennessee is gonna go quarterback, it seems
like Cleveland's entertaining quarterback. If Tennessee doesn't go quarterback, it
seems like they're gonna go a dual.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Carter.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I know that Browns have also talked talked to Abdul Carter.
I am in agreeance with with Aaron Travis. Hunter makes
the most sense to the Giants at three. I think
it's a it's a bang bang for them. They get
they need help in the secondary, they need help at
wide receiver. Like literally, it's it's Malik and then Darius

(22:02):
Slayton got the contract.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
But it's the Giants.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
So what they'll do is draft a tight end or
something at three not named Tyler Warren. They'll draft Flake
Fanning at three.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
New York again at three.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Uh So, So, as we're on these uh as we're
on these quarterback conundrums, you know, apparently a video surface.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
And Aaron Rodgers came out of the darkness and he
was at a field and he was throwing footballs to
DK Metcalf and and creating the narrative that maybe he
is in Pittsburgh. Uh not active at that workout was
George Pickens, which has been a polarizing topic of the

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off season. What is what happens with George Pickens?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It are?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I'll start this off. One, are we do we
see Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh? And two? Does Pittsburgh really
not like Pickens that much? Are they out on Pickens?
Is he going to be playing somewhere else soon?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
If we get a roster with Pickens, Metcalf and Aaron
Rodgers on it, We're gonna need an entire show just
to cover this fucking team all year. This is gonna
be the most like it's a reality TV show full
of chick drama. It's just the worst shit you've ever seen.
I don't even want to talk about this. Somebody else
please talk about this shit.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Okay. So, from a rational standpoint, team pass plays per game,
just talking numbers, Aaron Rodgers was actually fifth for the
Jets team pass plays per game. Ironically, though the Jets
twenty fifth in pace of play? How does that work out?
From slicing of the pie. Four Pickens and DK Metcalf.
With DK Metcalf, he's never had in his six seasons

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less than nine hundred yards. Hasn't played. He's played fifteen
games or more so, he's been durable. You got one
hundred and forty targets? One hundred twenty targets? Is his
range last year is one hundred and eight targets? Four
DK Metcalf. Where's that fall for George Pickens? Between Pickens
with his Trenity score, he has a seven to six
nine Trinity score from last season, a forty five percent

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air yard share, twenty five percent target share. How much
will it clash? Can their styles meld with Aaron Rodgers,
especially if they're running the clock down? Is there going
to be enough to go around? I'm curious about it.
I think with not giving the contract to George Pickens,
he's on that thin ice and he can roll tomorrow

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if Mike Tomlin doesn't see a fit. In the meantime, though,
Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers are getting intimate, but they're
in the talking stages. They're in the talking stage.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Chef, you look like you wanted to say something. I'm
gonna give you a floor.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
No, he looks like he wants nothing to do with
this conversation here.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I've said, I've said on any platform that i've that
I've been a part of for the last sixty days,
that there's nothing I want to see less than Aaron
Rodgers in Pittsburgh. I just it that is, if you're
talking about a cultural mismatch, there is nothing that is
that is more just drastic, more more to more opposing

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dynamics than Aaron Rodgers in the way he has behaved
as a professional and the Pittsburgh Steelers culture, they do
not mesh. They don't work. So with DK getting his
bag one hundred and fifty whatever, I mean, the Steelers
do wide receiver contracts weird, so it's really front loaded
and they can get out of the deal after the

(25:43):
twenty twenty sixth season, so it's really only like a
two year, sixty million dollar deal of something of that sort.
I think that I think that this signals the end
in Pittsburgh for George Pickens. Coach can tell you I've
been a part of discords where I have ruined French
over my love for George Pickens, but.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
For various reasons for various reasons.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
But like, I'm a Pickens believer, but I'm starting to
think I Week eighteen was the first time I started
to accept the fact that he might never get out
of his own way, Like it just might not happen.
It's just there is a monkey up there banging symbols
with it, and there's a guy in allowed, like a
guy with a megaphone, just screaming, do the intrusive thing.

(26:30):
And that's what he's gonna do. Every single time. He's
gonna whatever, whatever, whatever thought comes to his mind. That's
exactly what he's gonna do. And there's nothing anybody can
do about it. It's not named George Pickens. So for me,
I think that he's gonna end up somewhere else and
have to go get the bag from somewhere else that's
desperate for a number one receiver. I think this is

(26:52):
bold prediction number one. We're here for hot takes. I
think Carolina trades for him come draft time.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Your analogies, you're like fantasy football Shakespeare over here. I
love your analogies. I woulda start copying you.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
You know, on George Pickens. It just reminds me of
the phrase, ain't nothing wrong with him, but something ain't right.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
So that's what I'm saying. Like it. It does not
like his ability to just crash out in the middle
of a football game, like, for instance, the Bengals game
and week the first Bengals game, he was on the way.
He's on his way to a monster day. I mean,
he had fifty yards in a touchdown the first quarter,
he gets a fifteen yard penalty. He then he then

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gets another fifteen yard penalty for doing the gun celebration,
and they just have to stop. They have to stop
throwing them the ball, and it's he was in line
for a monster day. He finished like three for seventy
five in a touchdown and there was nothing that any
dB was gonna do to stop him. He's one of
the most rarely talented athletes in the NFL that can

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not get out of his own way.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know Pickens, I have a lot of shares of Pickens.
I like Pickens. I think Pickins is And you see
you see the catches. You see that one where he
made that catch and it was like over off, like
way off balances, like just incredible catches. You saw that
what Russell throwing the moon balls and hint hit the
superior tracking ability right like he's built for it. And

(28:26):
I honestly don't think that DK going there hurts him
outside of let's see who's throwing the football. And that's
because Pickens was doing what he was doing in double
and triple coverage all freaking year. And he does get
in his way because just like when he checks a
corner that's trying to, you know, check him on the line,

(28:47):
or he's like he knows. He's like one of those
period like people that show up and they have superior
confidence in their self and they just go, I'm gonna
catch this ball. I'm gonna beat you because I am
who I am, right and that I don't hate that.
I do think that he can clean it up. But
I also thought the NFL was picking on him a
little bit, you know, like because he is rough around

(29:08):
the edges.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's the Draymond Green effect. You're getting punished for stuff
like you might have done anything there, but we let
you get away with some stuff back then that we're
gonna it looked like you did something, So now we're
gonna like we're we're we're on it. Got a right.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Whistle, you know, it's a scary thought. If they did
get Rogers for those three or four plays a game
where he gets the defense off side and then just
chucks it downfield. He's got DK and George Pickens running
downfield on just free plays ninety yards downfield.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Good God, that's horrifying.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean have blow up games. It's it's the
So he's the George's to me, I've said this several times,
he's the most He's the best receiver at the catch
point if the ball is more than fifteen yards down
the field and outside the numbers, there is no one close,
nobody there. But there's other stuff that receivers have to do.

(30:08):
And like we saw the worst of George Pickens last year.
He quit on that route against the Kansas City Chiefs
and it called like it caused an interception. So like
you could see him starting to melt down more and
more as the season went along. And I think the
Steelers are just gonna be done with it. I I
really hope that they don't trade him, but I really
I think that that we're coming to an end because
they don't pay two wide receivers. They just don't do it.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Well, that was the game where George Pickens went to
Patrick Mahomes right after and said, come get me right.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, he just you know, you.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Know, can you imagine if if Mahomes had Pickens downfield? Yeah, Like,
all those passes that got dropped by Justin Watson are
just touchdowns on touchdowns on touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean like we're all hoping for We're all hoping
for an a one landing spot for Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, he's definitely got a one potential. You just
got to land on the right spot, all right, So
we're gonna keep moving. I'm gonna hop over as you
guys know, this show is brought to you by the
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(31:21):
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Speaker 1 (31:55):
All right and on the advice network. Kah, I thought
I had this screen up. We got in the Football
General chat, Mike says, what is going to be? And
everybody can give me your one? Uh? Here this over,
everybody can give me your one. What is going to

(32:16):
be the biggest? If you had your call, put one
steak in the ground, biggest Draft Day surprise this year.
And you see Geezer right there in the bottom saying
Sanders falling to the Jets. I don't know if anybody's
buying that, but uh, coach, start us off. We'll go
trot to the bottom. Biggest Draft Day surprise in your mind?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Hey, I think that it too spicy to say that
Travis Hunter falls through the New England Patriots. That four
or not enough.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Uh, that's not enough. I can I can see that happening.
If the Giants decide they do want to go quarterback
and they take sadur that that's probably what happens.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Then I'm gonna push up and say that the New
Orleans Saints go ahead with Jackson Dart as their quarterback.
The waiver wire, fab bidding goes up. It's Monday night, right,
and you you say, hey, I'm gonna put a nine
dollars on this guy. Then you say, well that that's
we don't want to round number. We go eleven, then

(33:22):
we go seventeen, and then before you know it, you're
just like, hey, forget it. The fabs down there somewhere,
it's one hundred bucks all the way. Teams are gonna
ladder up on draft night as much as they can,
and I think chasing up the board, the New Orleans
Saints are gonna set themselves up with some Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Wow, so you have him, You have Jackson Dart going
in the top ten, single digits, Yes, single digits, all right, chef.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Ashton Jentz falls to the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Whoo twenty.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah interesting, that's a not landing spot. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So let me ask you this, you think do you
think gent at twenty is a fall or do you
think that's his that's his top take.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
There's a lot of mock drafts that have him going
six to the Raiders, ten to the Bears, twelve Yeah, yeah,
like him getting out of the top twelve is an
upset in my opinion. Absolutely yeah, And I mean if
he keeps falling further, I honestly I'd be surprised if
he went. I mean, the Bengals have committed to the
whole bit, so I mean he might not fall past

(34:34):
the Bengals. If he gets to the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Oh god, that's sexy.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, you know what I mean, see what I mean?
And then all my Chase Brown.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Chairs just just just wow.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I don't like to hear that with Chase Brown, that
he was big on Chase Brown.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I am too. That's probably my second most owned player
in Dynasty. So I don't want it to happen. I'm
just saying they're committed to the bit. They're gonna say,
we have to scored nine hundred points a game to
win on all like to win games, So let's just
go get the best pieces everywhere. They're not.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
All right, Aaron, all right?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
One of the teams early between Tennessee Cleveland, the Giants Vegas.
It's one of the early top ten QB needy teams.
Whoever doesn't get a ward or shitter, I believe they
will trade back into the late first round to draft
Jalen Milroe. Oh, he's going to sneak into the end

(35:34):
of the first round to a team that needs a
QB and wants to get the fifth year option. They'll
trade in.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
You see Buffalo and k C Philly. These teams trade
out of the last few picks every year. I think
someone trades back up after missing on an early quarterback
in Snag's mill row with the fifth year option.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
That is rushing up alone.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That is five million Scoville's.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Hot.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I think he's also my QB too. That was my
spicy take.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh, that's even spy. Oh we're trying to send people
to the.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Moon with the Actually my spicy take for it was
of all the quarterbacks in this draft. He will have
these single single highest fantasy finish during his career. He
may not have better long term success, but with his
rushing upside, he will have one blow up season where
he will just put up monster rushing yards. Maybe he
can hold it together, and I think he has top

(36:28):
five upside and I don't really think any of the
others have that high upside. He may have a one
year flame out like Anthony Richardson did well. Richardson only
got half a season, but just the upside.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I love that call on fast Draft the Origins tournament.
It's a best ball tournament where it's all rookies. I've
been pushing up Jaln Milroe on the boards and when
I can, I've gotten Shador and Milrow. I actually put
a post on X today, So thank you for confirming
anfirming my bias. Jaln Milroe can break a tournament like
that in a rookie setting, in a format. Great game there. Yeah, yeah, Aaron,

(37:05):
where would you put Jalen Milroe in Okay, he lands
in the first round. Where would you want to draft
Jalen Milroe in a rookie draft dynasty, rookie mont Real draft.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I don't know if he creeps into.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
So you said, rookie startup.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Dynasty.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I don't know if he gets into the first round
for me. It depends on where he goes. Like I
could also see like the Rams taking him at twenty
six to plan for the future. Like I don't know
if he uh, Okay, he creeps into the first round
for me because I don't necessarily know if he's an
immediate starter. I think he's going to sit a year
behind someone I just like I said, I think out
of all the quarterbacks in the NFL, I think he

(37:48):
has the highest rushing upside of anyone besides Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
He's that good, just that good rushing.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
So I might be able to take him in, you know,
if he goes to a good landing spot at the
end of the first round, I might get him into that,
you know, the first round of a rookie draft. But
I don't know how much higher i'd want. There's still
some you know, good players here that are a lot safer.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah. Man, that's that's spicy. Uh yeah, So I guess
we'll see what how that ends up turning out the ship.
What you do?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, I'm holding up the past place for any team
that drafts Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well it's fair enough, fair enough, But you know.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I really want him to be a thing. I really do.
But the back half of last year made me made
me nervous that he's just gonna be Taysom Hill at
the NFL level.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I wouldn't mind him being Taysom Hill.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It'd be great.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I mean, he really has to tight rope it. If
he's on that four year window. People forget how tough
it was for Jalen Hurts to tight rope it. He
barely got to play just a few games. At the
end of his rookie season. He had that Saints game
where it was a huge opportunity. The Saints were a
tough defense, and then he had the epic game against

(39:12):
the Cardinals in Championship Week. Then that pushed into the
next offseason. It was a will he or won't he?
There were so many people hating and pushing on Jalen Hurts.
I'm just concerned if Milroe doesn't get that first round
draft capital. To Aaron's point, I think that window is
going to be even tighter, just slam shut on him.

(39:33):
Then the window of opportunity that even Jalen Hurts has had,
and chev knows it too, he spoke to it. Jalen
Hurts is made of the right stuff. We're not so
sure that Milroe has that. So I'm very bearish on
the opportunity Milroe will get. But to your point, Aaron,
if he ends up hitting in Round one, that extra

(39:57):
fifth year buys just that little extra time and consideration
and investment in the NFL. In the NFL teams can lie,
but they don't lie with their draft capital and their
free agency moves. So that would be something that I
would have to at least give more grief for his
fancy outcome and career.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
He could creep into the first end of the first
round and be a top five have a top five
QB season for fantasy, or he could go in the
third round and never see the field. It's maybe range
of outcomes are ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Fields exactly what That's exactly what I see as the
ceiling outcome for for Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, the you know, and it's crazy, you know, you
see these you see these type moves things like this.
You see players that are kind of polarizing like that,
and you know we saw that with a trade that
just happened and it was another Dallas move. You know,
they traded San Francisco to get Trey Lance, like you know,
they traded in New England to get Joe Milton.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You know, like justin fields comp was great. I was
just looking and he had a QB seven finish in
his second season on a pretty crappy team and then
never did anything. That's what Milroe could do. Put up
one excellent season and then vanish off the face of
the earth.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah. So you know, obviously there's a lot of players
out there that are in this Jalen Milroll window like
you know, like I said, Joe Milton's one of those,
and you wonder if they could have relevance, you know, Dallas,
I don't know what they're doing taking everybody's you know,
quarterbacks that aren't quarterbacks. I mean they get him for cheap.
I guess seventh round picks.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Not much, Joe, what's up?

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Man?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Debro?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
What's up? Debro? Thanks for tuning in. So, Debro, you're
just in time. Milroe is a booger. So this is
our We're about to get into some hot takes. I
asked everybody here to prepare at least two brain busters.
I'm talking about stuff that you know, the average show

(42:00):
would call you crazy for. And so we're gonna enter
that part of the show. And uh, you know, Chev,
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you start us off. I
need something. I need something strong right here, like a
nice cup of like expresso in the morning.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh uh, let's start here. Jaydenon Higgins is this year's
Brian Thomas Jr.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Is that outlandish?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Do you? I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's crazy, Like Jadane Higgins seems to be a favorite,
Like when I hear people talking about it, talking about him,
like I've seen more Jaydon Higgins sleeper content across the board.
I mean, coach, you tell me, is he for real?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Is this the thing? Like? Can he be Brian Thomas Junior?
Can he be over a thousand yards? You're one.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
It's a gussy call because you're looking at BTJ is
now a first round outright alpha hammer wide out. So
the arch type match of somebody like Jayden Higgins to
be a big X receiver. Yeah, that's that's a huge
bold call. So the bank is worth the risk. As
Val Kilmer would say in heat, Jaydan Higgins is absolutely

(43:17):
going to be worth it. And you can Aarbertrage down
in these rookie drafts. I love the call. And look
if it falls short, hey, you reach for the moon,
you catch the stars. Jayden Higgins is a quality player
to have on your radar. It's funny enough.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yes, go ahead, yeah, go ahead, finish, finish.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Just for Arbertrage. You got a deep running back class.
We're getting sold that this is just a weak wide
receiver class, but as you get into the names of
five through ten, you have these gems of somebody like
Jaydon Higgins. So I think this wide receiver class is
absolutely getting slept on.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, I love this Higgins at Tennessee with cam Ward
that will be nice.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I just mocked him earlier in one of my write
ups fiftieth overall to the Seahawks, which I like because
Sam Darnold, they're throwing deep and the two receivers they
have are slot receivers, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
They have yeah, and they need they need the Rashid
Shaheed roll to be filled, and it can be filled
by a guy who's six four two fourteen and runs
four to four with a thirty nine baby very I'm
I would I would move. I would change my permanent
address to the cement Aisle at home at your local

(44:32):
home depot. If Jayden Higgins, if Jadan Higgins gets that
draft capital, like I mean, So, here's the thing, Tyler.
I've been a Jayden and Higgins guy since like late October,
like I started. I started this in late October. I
was like, hey, man, I think that this dude from
Iowa State is really good and everybody's like, hmm, well

(44:52):
he's big and he can't separate. I mean, and he
goes to Senior Bowl and he would, and he beats
the crap out of everybody, and then he goes to
the Combine and he proves it again. So I have
been on this train for a while and now everybody's
catching up. So now all the sleeper talk is ooh,
Jade Higgins is awesome. Afan Higgins is awesome. So now

(45:14):
I have to go even further and say that he's
going to duplicate the success of a rookie who finished
in the top ten and now is a first round
pick in rookie drafts. And that is where I am.
Jadien Higgins is going to be a top twelve receiver
this year.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Love it. So let me ask you this, and just
for clarification, right, if we're talking about Brian Thomas junior value,
we're talking about you know, it's essentially top two three,
Jamie Higgins. Who is it? If anybody that you have above.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Him, he's he's I mean, Deebro said he's my wide
receiver five. So you got so Travis is one. This
is this is the hottest take of all of it.
Travis is one, Ibukah's two, Trey Harris is three, Ted's four,
Jayden and Higgins is five, and I think Jayden and
Higgins is the best. Like well, I don't think Jay

(46:08):
Higgins is the best receiver in the class. Travis Hunter
is the best receiver in class, hands down, no equivocations.
The safest is Amika a Buka. Trey Harris is an
analytics darling and I've loved him for a really long time,
but he's gonna be a tremendous value. I think he's
probably the second most pro ready behind Buka. Number four.
Ted McMillan. I'm just kind of out on, but everybody

(46:30):
loves him, so I had to put him in my
top five, and then Jayden and Higgins. It's everything that
I want to see in a receiver. I have a type.
I love Nico Collins before anybody loved Nico Collins. So
it's just it's that, it's that and the athleticism confirmed
it for me.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Love it, love it all right, Aaron, you're on the clock.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Oh shit, I forgot who I was gonna go with.
We talked about that for so long.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Go to someone else?

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Still, Okay, So we heard about. He was talking. Derek
Gbrough said, Higgins goes to Tennessee and teams with cam Ward.
We are off running. Speaking of off running, Calvin Ridley
is going to be this year's Terry McLaurin this time
of year, it's beneficial to reverse engineer outcome with the

(47:21):
NFL draft. So if we see a player we already like,
we can envision a bullish story for them. If it's believable.
You're in the early stages of carving out what I
feel is mind value, as your market may even for
inefficient price. To your benefit. We get an older wide receiver.
He's shown flashes not consistent year over year production. The
talent has always existed for Calvin Ridley. Ridley fantasy points

(47:45):
per game has been averages all over the place. Twelve
point nine his rookie year eighteen point eight ranked fourth
in twenty twenty. Calvin Ridley one hundred and forty three
targets that year, ninety receptions, thirteen hundred plus receiving yards,
all career highs. In twenty twenty four, Ridley eleven point
seven fantasy points per game, one hundred twenty targets, sixty
four receptions off that A huge part of that is

(48:07):
the quarterback issue with Will Levis. In steps cam Ward,
You're getting a better quarterback in cam Ward. Ridley goes
right now in round six to Terry mclaurin's round five
ADP last season. I see a one round post NFL
draft bump for Calvin Ridley that is not then priced
in prior to the NFL Draft. So from Player Profiler,

(48:28):
Ridley ninth and expulsive rating last season, those are big
plays of twenty yards or more. Calvin Ridley was also
number one in air yards fifth and eight thirty deep
targets first and unrealized air yards from DD Fantasy Football.
Shout out to RAYG and my whole crew, Love you guys.
Calvin Ridley a sixty six to two Trinity score, thirty
seven percent air yard share, twenty three percent target share.

(48:49):
THEO Greminger always talks about the concept of a money
zone for wide receivers. Last year it was Terry McLaurin
for me, that was my call. This year is going
to be Calvin Ridley. Right, Both McLaurin and Ridley will
be thirty this year, so I see the same rinse
repeat for Calvin Ridley with cam Ward going to chevs.

(49:09):
Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I just blacked out a little bit in the middle
of that.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Right, It was a lot of analytics, but I followed them.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Listen, he said, He said, Calvin Ridley is this year's
Terry McLaurin. And I was, like, I just I started
daydreaming about how beautiful it would be just the middle.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Yeah, over the middle, your hands, check your hands? Where
are his hands?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I don't know. I don't even know. I don't know
where my hands are. I don't know. Oh, this is listen, guys,
that is incredible that I can't believe so one I have.
I have like survivor's remorse when it comes to the Titans.
Like I just believe that there's never gonna be anything
besides like good running backs. We get like a couple

(49:58):
of good running backs every every five to seven years,
and like that's it. We can't have nice things other
than that. Like we had aj Brown. We screwed that up.
We screwed that up so bad. So now when you're
talking about like a receiver being good, I just become
Jojo the idiot's circus boy, and I can't control myself.
And that was that Honestly, I'm gonna save that as

(50:22):
my ringtone because I can't believe. I just can't believe
that somebody else sees the vision of my like my
team not being a dumpster fire anymore. That made me
so happy that I blacked out for a second just
thinking about cam Ward catch it like throwing the ball
to Calvin Ridley, like Cam to Calvin twenty twenty five,

(50:43):
I might have my slogan.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Tyler.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
The previous password to the Fantasy Football Universe group chat
was f Calvin Ridley. If Calvin Ridley is drafted in
the first ten rounds by me in any league, it
means I've drafted from an Ayahuasca den with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I know that. Like Aaron Leaves came back with the.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
What you got?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
All right, I had to get get serious. That take
was just so spicy. He needed a little bit more kicking, dude.
That's that's incredible awesome. I love that take. You know,
I don't know if I'm buying, But there's this dream.
There's this dream that has been a resurgence of Calvin

(51:44):
Ridley for so long, and I feel like each time
he goes to a new spot and there's new hope,
and you know, even it gets pair with Trevor Lawrence
and we're like, yes, yes, it's gonna happen. And it's
just like, you know, it's like how many times can
we get hope and then be let down and get
hope and then be let down? And uh, you know, Chef,
I hope for you man, for the Titans. I hope

(52:07):
that a cam Ward and Calvin Ridley blessing happens. Uh
it would it is. It is the shot at Calvin
Ridley being relevant.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Two see cam to Calvin.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Now, if Tennessee does what the other half of the
world is projecting and they they go Abdual Carter in
the first round and pass on a quarterback, it's job.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
There is.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
That's the reaction I was looking for. All Right, Aaron,
do you have yours now? I'm sure you're feeling good
with that? Uh with that last chug there?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Uh we should we should have ended the show.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
We can't beat that. Anything I say now is completely irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
No, it will still be good.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
This isn't at Just let the magical cast take over.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Okay, my spicy take my second one.

Speaker 8 (53:03):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Top twelve receiver Ricky Piersoll. I love him.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I think I you what top twelve wide receiver one
will Ricky pearsall, that's spicy.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That's hot. That's not five million Scoville scortch butthole hot.
But that's warm.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
That's it is warm.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
That is warm.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
You know, he assumes the the alpha dog role over
Brandon Ayuk and Juwan Jennings and George Kittle.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I don't even think Brandon Ayuk stays there and the
other two.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
All right, So where do you have Brandon a going?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
I don't yet, but I imagine he's going somewhere on
draft day and then what they played one half the
game CMC George Kittle.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
George Kittle played fifteen and went over a thousand yards
on nine.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
So he's he's due to play four this year.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
He's never played like less than thirteen.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I'm exaggerating, but to see him, see I just I
think there's more than enough room for him to be
the guy there. The path is easy for Ricky p
Thank you, de bro.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
You know, it's it's so funny these takes happen, and
like you know, you start out and you're like Ricky
Piersoll twelve and then like as you start to elaborate
it like heats up right and you're like sitting there like,
oh yeah, now we're getting Brandon I believe, and it's
Piersoll and nobody else. Do we think San Francisco takes
a receiver in this draft of note? No?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
But he I mean they have so much for various reasons.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Well, they're gonna earn at least one day two and
one day three pick on a running back that they
do that every year.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, I mean the the ESPN plus mark that just came,
that came out here recently about a week could go.
They had they had r. J. Harvey going there in
the fourth round. Now you want to talk about you
want to talk about bricked up in Cementile, Give me
r J. Harvey, Give me r J. Harvey to the
forty nine ers and let the chaos ensue like that. Yeah,

(55:17):
that was I mean, they did a seventh round, Monck.
Now what I didn't like is they had Brishard Smith
going to seventh round. I don't I don't buy that
at all. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
See, this is this is where I'm at. The you know,
debro on the chat man, I appreciate you lighting up
the chat sas come out with a ton of wide
receivers of the combine. I think that if I moves,
or even if I doesn't move, I think that they
still are gonna go. They're still gonna take a wide receipt.
Now maybe it's like a maybe it's a Day three
pick or like a late on Day two pick if

(55:48):
they really like somebody. But I do see them taking
a wide receiver in this draft. I mean they they
let you know, they let too much walk and and
I don't I don't hate them taking a running back,
you know, and RJ. Harvey would be electric, like they
need to be able to spell CMC. They have to

(56:13):
be able to spell CMC. And you've seen it doesn't
really matter like all like you know, it doesn't necessary.
I mean, it matters who it is. But we've seen
multiple running backs be successful behind CMC in that San
Francisco offense. So somebody that's electric like that, that kind
of fits that mold of how they run their scheme

(56:34):
could be very impactful. And it could be one of
those where you have like allions defense or alliance you know,
running back when where you got you know, one A
and one B right, and you get relevant production out
of both players because it doesn't take CMC that many
carries to actually put numbers on the board, right, And
I don't think that it would take somebody with breakaway

(56:57):
speed the that you know that many carries either to
create relevance.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Oh boy, is basial toot and a good fit for
San fran Sam Fray or Miami.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
I would say on R. J. Harvey, he's just so
efficient at jump cut and go laterally. He can jump
cut and just direct forward, very efficient in how he runs.
I would love to see him in San Francisco. Yeah,
well in San.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Francisco's not like they're not one of those teams where
he's you know, like they need to have a two
different style of running backs. You know, they're not looking
to have like hitter and then you're scat back like
they want the same kind of system guy and they're
okay with that.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
And then if they really want to get creative, we
always get you shit.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Bring back orlanda scary I mean, the thing about that
backfield is if your average you run for one thousand yards,
if you're specially you run for like fourteen fifteen, And
that's kind of what you get from CMC. But I
mean I think that they're the running back class lends
itself to somebody else landing there. I mean, they're they're

(58:06):
gonna spend day two or day three, day three capital
on a running back this year. I mean, they did
it with Grindo when they still had Alijah Mitchell on
the roster and Jordan Mason, so we know that they're
gonna take somebody in day three.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I mean, we still can't keep back backs healthy, you know,
same thing, same thing with freaking Mike McDaniel. Can't keep
running backs healthy, same system. You know, like they can't
keep their running backs healthy, so they have to they
have to take running backs.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
To Aaron, what he was saying about Ricky Pearsall, how
we jumped on this h This is UH wide receiver
seven and a fourteen finished his final two weeks, So
that's extrapolating big. So, Aaron, any fear of trepidation that
makes you perish on Pearsall or do you feel like
that's just an indicator of the consistency that will be

(58:56):
applied over a healthy seventeen tretch you're calling twelve.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, I don't necessarily know if he can reach that levels.
I think he settles in more likely as a wide
receiver too. But you have to factor in like he
spent how much of the season rehabbing from getting shot,
and what the preseason training camp, So you gotta you
think a full off season. You know it's his rookie
training camp. You missed most of it or all of it.

(59:22):
You got to think if he gets healthy in a
whole off season, he's going to be fairly consistent. Debo
out of town CMC never really all that healthy. I
just think the potentials here. I don't know if he
actually reaches twelve.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Like I said, you.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Said, spicy, I think he's more likely a wide receiver too,
But I like the upside there if he hits.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Yeah, no, I love it. Coach you uh number two.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
You had an offer your Thursday for more.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I think we're we're hitting right at our tom Yeah, ready,
we can we can hit it. Let's go.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Let's let hey always want to hit it right. David
and Joku top three tight end in twenty twenty five.
David and Joku tight end ten on underdog. Right now
in round ten, let's do more reverse engineering. We see
a quarterback improvement Shador sanders in an overall improvement in help,
so more games played. There's a little bit of a T.

(01:00:20):
Higgins problem. Played just eleven games in twenty twenty four,
thirteen point five Fantasy points per game for David and
Joku was fourth at the position average eight point eight
targets per game. Add that to a seventeen game total,
and I know that's a most bolsh case. You're at
one hundred and forty nine targets for next season and

(01:00:40):
Djoku ranked six and tight end targets last season. The
top five earners last year tight end brock Bauers one
forty eight seventeen games, so that pace would be right
up there with brock Bauers, Trey McBride one hundred thirty
nine and sixteen games, Travis Kelson one hundred and thirty one,
John new Smith won oh nine, George Kittle ninety two
in fifteen games. James shout out to George Kittle is

(01:01:02):
fancy points per game and I think the last six
seasons tight end six or better, so another shout out
to him. David and Joku managed to be tenth in
tight end receptions with sixty four last year. Let's say
it is though Kirk Cousins right QB Kirk Cousins another
year out from his torn achilles. Let's say Cousins can
drive off the back of his foot for some power

(01:01:23):
on his throws, being sync with the lower half and
upper half of his body. Twenty twenty two and twenty
twenty three, TJ. Hockinson tight end four and tight end
two in Fantasy points per game. Twenty twenty two, TJ.
Hockinson second in receptions, second in receiving yards, second in
targets with one hundred and twenty nine, third in red
zone targets Hackinson in twenty twenty three. Before you know,
remember Cousins got hurt. Second in reception, second in receiving

(01:01:46):
yards unrealized air yards in Djoku does not have the
name brand value, but he will after twenty twenty five.
Be it Kirk Cousins, Shadora, Sanders, David and Joku top
three tight end in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I could see that, But you know, for me, I
look at my tight end rankings and I got Bowers, McBride, Laporta, Kittle,
and then it's like, now, what this tight end rankings
are a freaking mess. There's like fifteen guys in a
row here where I could see them as high as
four or five or as low as sixteen. So yeah,
I can see that just because the whole freaking tight

(01:02:25):
end classic, the whole tight end group is a mess.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
So and you get them in round ten, Round ten,
huge arbitrage, tons of juicy meat on the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
I held it together for there's no streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Look, you know I I and Djoko has shown that
he could be relevant. The questions always be as always been,
Kenny stay healthy, you know, Canny, stay on the field,
and you know it, whether it be a rookie like
for tight ends, rookie quarterbacks situations typically but well, because
they're under pressure, they need to get rid of it.
And then joke, who's gonna be like he thrives in

(01:03:07):
that right, The underneath target share is it's very possible.
It's possible he has the talent. I think to me,
the question is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
A chance.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
There's a chance a very.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Manufacturer touches for him like he was prime Percy Harvin.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
So well they got the best option. He's got Jerry
Judy and then you've got Cedric Tillman stays questionable and
they're currently on their depth chart. Their wide receiver three
is Michael Woods, the second. Do you know who he is?
You should know who he is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I know who he is. Nobody else knows who
he is, but but I know who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
There's a reason nobody else knows who is and me,
as an Arkansas fan, I know who he is. But like,
obviously you know they're gonna need help at wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
They're gonna need a lot of help.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Uh, And I feel, you know, hopefully if they do
take a quarterback, they get they get some weapons.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Uh, your top top one or two options as a
skeleton key for tight end production in fantasy football?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, awesome. Did anybody have any any other ones?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah? Ta, Jay Spears and Trey Benson are gonna be
top twelve running backs in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
That's so good. That's so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
You know, I can't speak to this unbiased. I can
speak to this unbiased because I have a lot of
James Connor shares and I'm like hoping, like maybe he's
got one more ring around the sun before he's done.
Like I can get like six solid game, six solid
games from him and then sell him Uh, you know,

(01:04:52):
it's one of those. But I do like trade Benson.
I like that call, you know. Ah, But I hope,
I hope, I hope Connor gets at least five games
where I can sell him mid season because I have
a lot of shares. But he's you know, he's been steady.
He's been steady.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
So the reason I say that is because before last year,
James Connor never played more than fifteen games in the season,
and that was back in like twenty twenty one. He
had a career high in touches, he had a career
high in yards rushing, and he still fell short at
the end of the year, getting hurt and not being
able to finish that week seventeen game. Now, what like,
he's going into his age thirty season and I have

(01:05:35):
a few shares of James Connor too, and I've ridden
the wave of just hey man, nobody's gonna give me
what I need for him, so he's probably just gonna
have to die on my roster. So I but now,
I went out last year and I was like, what
is it gonna take for Trey Benson, And people were
so pissed that they would just let me get like
give me give me a third in twenty twenty five,

(01:05:57):
and at twenty twenty seven to third, I can, and
you can have Trey Benson. That's after spending like early
second round capitol on him in the twenty twenty four
rookie draft because you're pissed because he couldn't beat out
James Connor, a man who literally cheated death. You think
that that man is gonna seed his job to some
twenty one year old rookie, you are out of your

(01:06:18):
rabbit ass mind. So with that, now we can buy
Trey Vinson for cheat, because now James Connor has given
us his mister Holland's opens of a performance as a fantasy,
as a fantasy asset, and we can just we just
move on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I seen ear I seen earlier that Draft Day was
just added to Netflix, and listening to you Wheel and
Deal makes me want to go watch it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Oh man, I gotta, I gotta, yeah, I gotta. I
have to have Draft Day, like I have. I make
memes where like I just have the post it note
and I just send it to somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
And I've seen a great meme. I seen a great
Draft Day meme earlier. You know how nobody went to
bo Callahan's birthday? Right, yeah, you know why no one went.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
To his birthday? Think of who his agent was?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Wait Diddy?

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Oh yeah yeah, all right, I don't soon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
We're shutting it down with that one. Hey, look, thank
you guys for tuning in. Sorry over de bro, Thanks
for hanging out with us. Appreciate you. It's Friday night.
We'll see you next week. Friday night, nine o'clock from
the forum. Always a good time. Keep it spicy.

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