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Speaker 1 (00:00):
According to JG News. On October first, nineteen oh eight,
and Record introduced his Model T automobiles to the markeket
What would happen if the sunby Line is not.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Around?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
On October first, nineteen eighty two, Sony watches the first
consumer compact disc player model CDP DASH right on life.
What would have happened if the compact disc was not
allowed to gain its iron holes on the music industry?
What sort of a world would we have if MP
(00:41):
one was allowed to take over before the industry had
wanted it to. This is Spiritooth holod Repica. I'm your
host Wolfman, and this is Ricky Bearhart here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And first of all, let's talk about the automobile and Mark,
what's that work for?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, you could say the automotive assembly line, the assembly line,
but the general concept is mass production. But did say
they didn't come up with mass production? Well, the reason
I would say so is because you think about mass
what is mass produced as far as mechanical engineering, and
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I would think that the the enclosed cartridge, as far
as bullets are concerned, that means you could mat I'm
sure that pre date the automobile and you could produce
hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands of those. So
the concept of mass production, I mean I was it
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was always in context with me when I would talk
to people about what came first Fords, Fords, last production
wide for his model T or the concept of well
these bullets, I mean they were able to generate hundreds
of them, right, they.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Were able to generate hundreds of moment It's what I'm thinking.
Let's just say they don't come up with the MODELT
and massive everything else. Let's just say they don't how
much longer it would take people to accomplish things without.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That production coming into Fine.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, I mean, first of all, it's about precision. If
each individual car has to be hand fabricated, there's no uniformity.
Now this has implications that travels all over the industrial singularity.
Now what do I mean by industrial singularity. Cave paintings
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led to a uniform on clay tablet. Play tablet led
down the line to handscribed pages copying words. So each
book took years to reproduce. But then came Gutenberg and
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Gutenberg's printing press, and that changed everything and made for
the Renaissance, made for the first banking empires and the
mess we have ourselves in today. Now we go further
than that, into the singularity. If you can't have a
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mass production line, which is precision mechanical engineering turning out
the same part over and over again, each car is
a handmade work, which means you have an artisan class
of car rights or automobile rights, the way they made
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ships in the old days when it was an art.
Mass production in the printing press has the same implication
as mass production for bullets or for automobiles.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So if for was in around, who would be the
one who would take credit for the mass production of
the audio?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I mean I would say the next the next
line industrial giant there. I mean, I don't know, I'm
not I'm not exactly sure where to go with that.
But the inevitability of the singularity means that someone would
have put it together. Someone would It's kind of like,
let's just say the light bulbs. There were how many
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people working.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
On that light bulb, but at the same time, one
person or two got credits.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, there were many, many different incandescent light bulbs, and
Edison got credit for one of the successful. Tesla was
forced to reinvent the light bulb for the World's Fair
because Edison refused to share his patent on the matter. Yeah,
which is the typical high minded thing that Edison did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But the point is is that had Ford not done it,
someone else would have died.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Because the goal was to create a network and that
network is network. That word is a big deal to
the singularity now.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And we got we got to take into account.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What was going on around the time of nineteen oh eight.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, the fact that automobiles were starting to come around.
They were major, but people were starting to drive more
than the bug.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The horse and bugget exactly. Well, they were measuring engines
and horsepower I think by that point too, right, they
were measuring.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And the fact is at the time there were no real.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Known roads, which means there was no rope instructure.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And the fact that happened until I think after after
World War Two, right the Highway.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Project, Yeah, yeah, the Highway project.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Had to do with was it Roosevelta?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Was it? Uh? It was roads developed that garden it. Yeah,
and then like they keep up with the roads. But
the fact of the matter, it is probably modeled after
the autobolou. It was very dangerous to drive one of
these automobiles on the road because you had sports and buggy,
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you had people were walking and trolley. If there wasn't
any probably around.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Or well certainly something like that, certainly you'd have a
threat from mixed traffic. But the thing that I would uh,
I would say is without paved roads, without a regulated tire,
I mean, you didn't have to guarantee you we're gonna
get anywhere. What if the road was too muddy, what
if you tire busted. I mean, it's far from the
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way it is today, very far.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I was watching the kind of movie, the old.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
One or in the remaking.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was the remake. It was where he went like
six hundred thousand years down.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The line and yeah with the with the morlocks after
the moon blew up.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's a wicked movie.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But there's this one part of the movie where the
automobile ran went out of place and something out lost
and it ran over his.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What well, yeah, the love of his life and he
was in some sort of in some sort of a
Nextus paradox where he couldn't avoid her, her duel.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So he had to go into the future.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, yeah, I don't exactly know why he did what
he did.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But all I know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Is it's an example of what is faded, all right,
And that's a whole other hornet's mess for another day.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We can say, like I said, is the singularity is
an inevitable and it's faded.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's faded. Now.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't know about any individual death, but when you
create an industry around projectiles, whether they be automotive or ballistic,
there's going to be a lot of energy flying around,
and that energy can be channeled in a variety of ways.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But what happens, let's just say this.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, and I know you're saying this singularity, Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What happens if the automobile does it get created?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
World?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, well, I mean, like I said, the concept of
the internal combustion engine, in my opinion, is inevitability of
the similarity, which is data. People are going to say, well,
it's human ingenuity, and yes, that's part of it, and
I'm not trying to de emphasize human ingenuity. But what
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the other thing it is is, it's it's singularity. Now,
if you read Ray Kurtzwell, the futurist, he's the one
that chiefly promotes this. He says that in his math
that there is a trend towards exponential return. An exponential
return is if I.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Have this many here, I might have this many more later.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Because we have a continuation. You had all the inventing
that started in the Renaissance, You had things compounding, and
then eventually you had steam engines. Now from steam you
went over to internal combustion. Internal combustion could drive and
drive tr and an acts on. They already knew what
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a horse and buggy was, so then you have the
mutants cross over.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yes, let me answer you this question, and you're playing
a little bit right now, What exactly would one of
the machines look like?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, it's it's the automobile.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I mean, if the automobile.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Wasn't around, well, you would have to have something that's
more efficient than the wheel. What's more efficient than the wheel?
Can you immediately come up with an answer? So we
would have to date back all the way to begin
where they created the very first wheel. Well, my point
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is is a wheel is a ring of varying coomplexity,
but it's it's circular, and no one creates a circle.
A circle is part of geometry. It exists in data,
which is part of what the singularity is and why
it's important to differentiate. Not a lot of people have
a full grasp on the relationship between data and energy
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and what that means. The reason there's a phrase called
reinvention of the wheel. To reinvent the wheel, to.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Reinvent the wheels very good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now, how does one reinvent something that is almost perfect
in its efficiency?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The circle is elegant. It does what it does for
a reason because it's part of the hologram, the mathematical
precision of the universe, the golden ratio, the spiral vortex, mathematics,
all these complicated things that are evidence of, in my
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humble opinion, a designer an author, because otherwise it's a
giant coincidence. And this is are cool when they happen
a little.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Bit, but after a while you have to wonder. Kurtzwell
says that you're gonna have a greater and more progressive end.
And it's interesting because he comes at it, I mean,
from an evolutionary standpoint. Automobiles belonged to the singularity, but
the singularity is, by Kurtzweill's reckoning, an extension of evolution.
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He's saying that whatever was going on in our DNA
made this inevitable the automobile.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
In other words, all the way back before we invented
the wheel, the wheel was already going to be invented
by the exponential return of the singularity. It was just
waiting to get to that point, assuming the energy would
survive extinction. I don't know that he directly he says
these things. This is what I extrapolate from his map.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I read about half of one of the books called
The Singularity Is Near, which I would recommend to anyone
because it explains futurism. I've heard a lot of pooh, pooh,
and and and oh, that's rubbish and whatnot from people
who act like that's not gonna happen. But all you're
gonna do is go to your YouTube page and type
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in darka and take a look there and see what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, be very good.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now, Uh, we'll get back to the point in hand
by segueing us into into my point and we'll do
compare contrast.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
If that's all right with it, then it's perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
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Speaker 1 (13:48):
Well, that's fine.
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you were mentioning.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
In the beginning of the show podcast about the CD
and so could you please the library.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's a very interesting topic.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, I've always thought so. So there's a thing
that a lot of people don't realize. Compact is CDs.
I mean they were being used. To my understanding, it
was the early seventies for computing. They weren't mainstream because
lasers laser science is the big deal. CDs use a
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lot of power because they have moving parts of a
motor and a laser and whatnot, And that was part
of where I'm going with this. The other part I'm
going with this is there was a format called MP one.
Now you were aware of MP three and MP four,
Oh yeah, well those are successive iterations of what was
originally called MP one. Now MP one.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know if it happened in the early eighties,
but it happened around the time of the big computer
boot where you had apples and commodores. Now you could
play it down file on your computer on what was
called an MP one file. Now they were giant files
because memory was very small, and at first you would
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be able to do a lot with that. But they
they dashed the industry and people on industry because they
knew the inevitable of what it meant when you have
something like a record. Now, the music industry began with
what they called albums. All right, albums like a photo album.
There was a musical album because it represents the segments
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of your time. Photos represent a particular age or an event.
Same thing with an album. Now they were putting albums
on vinyl records. CDs came after a tracks. Then we're
dealing with a simularity. But CDs the thing, the thing
that vinyl records had that A tracks didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
A tracks were re recordable. Yeah, spare this in mind.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
CDs when they were first issued were not a recordable.
Matter of fact, what I remember of the TVs, Yes,
you you just played through the TV. They were not
recordable unless they had CDs that weren't able to be
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re recorded on a computer, but you couldn't record over
It took it took them a long time to figure
out how to make rerecordable CDs for a commercial market.
And to my understanding, it was never done officially by
a corporation to my understanding, what was done by some hacker.
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But for all I know, that could be some mummer's
tail or some sort of you know, urban legend quote unquote.
The thing that I'm gonna say, though, is when you
have an a track that's rewriteable, you can go to
the store and buy an a track and you could
record from one to another and make a copy, and
when you record that copy, it's free. Kind of like
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how the concept that was a step that was missing.
We went straight from a track to CD.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But it said that the first commercial player came out
on this day in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Nineteen eighty two is pretty far back. I mean, a
tracks were still going on. Cassettes were a parallel market.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's about thirty six years ago. It's quite a while.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Ago, and it's beyond obsolete now because no one knows
what a tracks are. Cassettes are a mystery to kids today,
and I remember making mixtapes when I was a kid. Now,
cees are starting to go obsolete where you don't even
see a lot of those anymore. You can see on
my shelves here in the Olkahaus.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Studios where we're recording this podcast, you can see we
have plenty of CDs in here, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Have some cassettes still left my house. I have cassettes,
but very very few because I haven't owned the cassette
player in years. Now, here's the thing about an MP
one that they knew computers weren't going to be going away.
When you have a console video game system, they control
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the cartridge and they control the console. Now, the same
thing with the CD. When you have a format that
is frozen, they control the CD player, what it does,
They control the CD what products you get. However, if
you have an MP one, yes, like a giant cleaver,
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this however falls if you had an MP one format,
your computer you own today can play it. The computer
you buy two years ago could play it, two years
later could play it. The computer you buy ten years
later can play it. Because if the format would go
ahead and they wouldn't get their money.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So as soon as they saw the MP.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
One, they did everything within their power to smash it
down because they knew that they would lose all the money.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
From nineteen eighty two, all the way to Napster. And
you remember Napster.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, let me explain about napcident. Download whatever they wanted, Yes,
any any song you wanted, they get downward. Yes. And
the thing is because we had shareable violence.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
What happened or m P three what happened and I.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Will repeat that came around. Yeah, got upset and they said,
you know, shop, we're not We're not getting paid for
our work and everything else.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So that has stopped.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That stopped the sharing that Steve Doped said, Hey, I
had an m P three that it's called an iPod.
It's gonna have music on it and you get paid
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, and I his iTunes was certainly, if not the first,
then one of the first that started to do that.
At the point is is it caught on in a
big way because of the Apple Corporation's success. However, it
represented the gloving of the MP three format into a
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control software. Now this is the this is the correlation,
this is the parallel with the automotive industry. But before
you do that, I want to mention its invention of
a website cold YouTube, which has videos of everything, which
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means you could watch the videos you wanted from a
long time ago. With that years ago, just staying that, Okay,
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well YouTube, what YouTube did was YouTube took your home video.
And I don't mean DHS, I mean I mean a
way I mean DHS. But they were already starting to
get some visual stuff when YouTube it was coming up.
You could take a home cam corner or a digital
camera and take your home videos and make your own
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America's Funniest Home video on YouTube. Originally it was just
a cable show that was on cable television where you
saw people's videos that they mailed the DHS they nailed
a copyer. But you basically took that show and turned
it into and exploding inevitable where now any video can
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be uploaded onto YouTube from all over the Internet.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And singers on, musicians, anybody else. You can actually propped
off those videos through advertisement for sales and.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Also if you go viral.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
With advertisements, yes, well that goes down and even a
deeper rabbit hole of e commerce and the concept of
the economic Internet, which is a whole other branches singularity
that's beyond this. It has implications with both YouTube and
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MP three files. But getting back to the automotive angle,
you can build an automobile on the website. Now you
can tell them what options you want. Now, imagine that
you have mass production for low models, but you also
had a place where you can build your own custom automobile.
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And that's what that corporation was for. In other words,
you design every bit of it and it comes off
like you want to instead of Now you know there's
there a dynamic. I make questions, there's engineering limitations, et cetera,
et cetera. There's there's things that you wouldn't be able
to do. But the point is is that the automobile
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is significantly taken out of the hands of the owner,
the purchaser. There's a lot you don't have a say over.
When it comes to safety, that's not a problem, but
certain elements of engineering. I know a mechanics and they've
told me various things. When you have a corporation that
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has executive control over the engineering, you have no say
in how ridiculous that engineering is. And they engineer obsolescence
into cars. They have failure that's engineered into cars, where
they have things that are time to go at a
certain point. And the point is is it leads us
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to the industry. We have today, which is comparable to
MP one. MP one was in the interest of the consumer.
The automobile industry is today. It's hard to say really
if it's in the interesting concern.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
As the cars grow more electronic, more digital, more, I mean,
they're almost like devices. If your car has Bluetooth, it's
some of them are hotspots, some of them are Internet.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So they're becoming more and more technological as far as
the Internet is concerned, which of course assists in all
of the apps and tracking, both known and unknown.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
But now we get to the point of the would
have me forward be able to understand where his industry
went in a century plus, where now we're so far
down the line that we have cars and they're i
mean beyond four there are luxury cars that are mean,
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it's getting to the point now where they're saying they're
going to be making self driving cars. Wow, now they're
years off yet, but right around the corner. Because a
lot of people would always say, well, how would you
ever have music in a car? They put record players
in early cars, but that when you bounce on the road,
you can't have a record player in a car. So
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eventually they came up with you know, playable cassettes. And
now you have internet in the car, and now you
have this, and now you have that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
So what will tomorrow's car look like?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Is it any interest in the consumer? I don't know
what Henry Ford you can care about the consumer. I
don't know if he's the typical industrialist, probably.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Not, you know, speaking on the future a little bit,
considering this show is Spiritu's Holographica. I want to leave
the show with this note, and then we could do block.
My dad was mentioning to me today that so upcoming
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phones are gonna have holographic features, and which means.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You can pump to the person on the phone and.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Through the video they could appear in holographic form.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well this one, my dad was John, Well, what do
you mean holographic like a hope, like an actual like
help help me, help me ob one, Kenolobe, you're my
only hope.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like, Well, they're developing holograms. I mean they already have
some stuff like that in Japan. I don't know how
far it's coming along, but yeah, eventually, we already have
George Jfson stuff with State Time and Skype. Yeah, so
it's right.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
On the corner when it comes to that question is
will it turn like Star Trek and we'll have transporters,
you know, warp drive and all this good stuff. That's
what I'm interested in, I be, I personally would like
hellfication because.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That way transporters. I could be transporters, because I could
be home and I could go to work without the Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Of course, of course, what he's really saying is without
the hassle of driving an automobile in the modern day
right of way, which is an insurance nightmare and stacked
piles of liability and responsibility for a car. That's wouldn't
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it be better if you could just mega man your
way from your house to your job?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And it is that in a perfect way to be
the end of this podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You can tell that Joseph Valdi loves to drive. Yes,
this is the end of the podcast. This has been
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According to JG News. On October first, nineteen oh eight,
and Record introduced his Model T automobiles to the markeket
What would happen if the sunby Line is not.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Around?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
On October first, nineteen eighty two, Sony watches the first
consumer compact disc player model CDP DASH right on life.
What would have happened if the compact disc was not
allowed to gain its iron holes on the music industry?
What sort of a world would we have if MP
(00:41):
one was allowed to take over before the industry had
wanted it to. This is Spiritooth holod Repica. I'm your
host Wolfman, and this is Ricky Bearhart here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And first of all, let's talk about the automobile and Mark,
what's that work for?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, you could say the automotive assembly line, the assembly line,
but the general concept is mass production. But did say
they didn't come up with mass production? Well, the reason
I would say so is because you think about mass
what is mass produced as far as mechanical engineering, and
(01:31):
I would think that the the enclosed cartridge, as far
as bullets are concerned, that means you could mat I'm
sure that pre date the automobile and you could produce
hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands of those. So
the concept of mass production, I mean I was it
(01:52):
was always in context with me when I would talk
to people about what came first Fords, Fords, last production
wide for his model T or the concept of well
these bullets, I mean they were able to generate hundreds
of them, right, they.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Were able to generate hundreds of moment It's what I'm thinking.
Let's just say they don't come up with the MODELT
and massive everything else. Let's just say they don't how
much longer it would take people to accomplish things without.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That production coming into Fine.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, I mean, first of all, it's about precision. If
each individual car has to be hand fabricated, there's no uniformity.
Now this has implications that travels all over the industrial singularity.
Now what do I mean by industrial singularity. Cave paintings
(02:57):
led to a uniform on clay tablet. Play tablet led
down the line to handscribed pages copying words. So each
book took years to reproduce. But then came Gutenberg and
(03:19):
Gutenberg's printing press, and that changed everything and made for
the Renaissance, made for the first banking empires and the
mess we have ourselves in today. Now we go further
than that, into the singularity. If you can't have a
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mass production line, which is precision mechanical engineering turning out
the same part over and over again, each car is
a handmade work, which means you have an artisan class
of car rights or automobile rights, the way they made
(04:00):
ships in the old days when it was an art.
Mass production in the printing press has the same implication
as mass production for bullets or for automobiles.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So if for was in around, who would be the
one who would take credit for the mass production of
the audio?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I mean I would say the next the next
line industrial giant there. I mean, I don't know, I'm
not I'm not exactly sure where to go with that.
But the inevitability of the singularity means that someone would
have put it together. Someone would It's kind of like,
let's just say the light bulbs. There were how many
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people working.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
On that light bulb, but at the same time, one
person or two got credits.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, there were many, many different incandescent light bulbs, and
Edison got credit for one of the successful. Tesla was
forced to reinvent the light bulb for the World's Fair
because Edison refused to share his patent on the matter. Yeah,
which is the typical high minded thing that Edison did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But the point is is that had Ford not done it,
someone else would have died.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Because the goal was to create a network and that
network is network. That word is a big deal to
the singularity now.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And we got we got to take into account.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What was going on around the time of nineteen oh eight.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, the fact that automobiles were starting to come around.
They were major, but people were starting to drive more
than the bug.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The horse and bugget exactly. Well, they were measuring engines
and horsepower I think by that point too, right, they
were measuring.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And the fact is at the time there were no real.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Known roads, which means there was no rope instructure.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And the fact that happened until I think after after
World War Two, right the Highway.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Project, Yeah, yeah, the Highway project.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Had to do with was it Roosevelta?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Was it? Uh? It was roads developed that garden it. Yeah,
and then like they keep up with the roads. But
the fact of the matter, it is probably modeled after
the autobolou. It was very dangerous to drive one of
these automobiles on the road because you had sports and buggy,
(06:36):
you had people were walking and trolley. If there wasn't
any probably around.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Or well certainly something like that, certainly you'd have a
threat from mixed traffic. But the thing that I would uh,
I would say is without paved roads, without a regulated tire,
I mean, you didn't have to guarantee you we're gonna
get anywhere. What if the road was too muddy, what
if you tire busted. I mean, it's far from the
(07:03):
way it is today, very far.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I was watching the kind of movie, the old.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
One or in the remaking.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was the remake. It was where he went like
six hundred thousand years down.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The line and yeah with the with the morlocks after
the moon blew up.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's a wicked movie.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But there's this one part of the movie where the
automobile ran went out of place and something out lost
and it ran over his.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What well, yeah, the love of his life and he
was in some sort of in some sort of a
Nextus paradox where he couldn't avoid her, her duel.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So he had to go into the future.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, yeah, I don't exactly know why he did what
he did.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But all I know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Is it's an example of what is faded, all right,
And that's a whole other hornet's mess for another day.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We can say, like I said, is the singularity is
an inevitable and it's faded.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's faded. Now.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't know about any individual death, but when you
create an industry around projectiles, whether they be automotive or ballistic,
there's going to be a lot of energy flying around,
and that energy can be channeled in a variety of ways.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But what happens, let's just say this.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, and I know you're saying this singularity, Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
What happens if the automobile does it get created?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
World?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, well, I mean, like I said, the concept of
the internal combustion engine, in my opinion, is inevitability of
the similarity, which is data. People are going to say, well,
it's human ingenuity, and yes, that's part of it, and
I'm not trying to de emphasize human ingenuity. But what
(09:15):
the other thing it is is, it's it's singularity. Now,
if you read Ray Kurtzwell, the futurist, he's the one
that chiefly promotes this. He says that in his math
that there is a trend towards exponential return. An exponential
return is if I.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Have this many here, I might have this many more later.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Because we have a continuation. You had all the inventing
that started in the Renaissance, You had things compounding, and
then eventually you had steam engines. Now from steam you
went over to internal combustion. Internal combustion could drive and
drive tr and an acts on. They already knew what
(10:03):
a horse and buggy was, so then you have the
mutants cross over.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yes, let me answer you this question, and you're playing
a little bit right now, What exactly would one of
the machines look like?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, it's it's the automobile.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I mean, if the automobile.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Wasn't around, well, you would have to have something that's
more efficient than the wheel. What's more efficient than the wheel?
Can you immediately come up with an answer? So we
would have to date back all the way to begin
where they created the very first wheel. Well, my point
(10:52):
is is a wheel is a ring of varying coomplexity,
but it's it's circular, and no one creates a circle.
A circle is part of geometry. It exists in data,
which is part of what the singularity is and why
it's important to differentiate. Not a lot of people have
a full grasp on the relationship between data and energy
(11:14):
and what that means. The reason there's a phrase called
reinvention of the wheel. To reinvent the wheel, to.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Reinvent the wheels very good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now, how does one reinvent something that is almost perfect
in its efficiency?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The circle is elegant. It does what it does for
a reason because it's part of the hologram, the mathematical
precision of the universe, the golden ratio, the spiral vortex, mathematics,
all these complicated things that are evidence of, in my
(11:53):
humble opinion, a designer an author, because otherwise it's a
giant coincidence. And this is are cool when they happen
a little.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Bit, but after a while you have to wonder. Kurtzwell
says that you're gonna have a greater and more progressive end.
And it's interesting because he comes at it, I mean,
from an evolutionary standpoint. Automobiles belonged to the singularity, but
the singularity is, by Kurtzweill's reckoning, an extension of evolution.
(12:28):
He's saying that whatever was going on in our DNA
made this inevitable the automobile.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
In other words, all the way back before we invented
the wheel, the wheel was already going to be invented
by the exponential return of the singularity. It was just
waiting to get to that point, assuming the energy would
survive extinction. I don't know that he directly he says
these things. This is what I extrapolate from his map.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I read about half of one of the books called
The Singularity Is Near, which I would recommend to anyone
because it explains futurism. I've heard a lot of pooh, pooh,
and and and oh, that's rubbish and whatnot from people
who act like that's not gonna happen. But all you're
gonna do is go to your YouTube page and type
(13:19):
in darka and take a look there and see what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, be very good.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now, Uh, we'll get back to the point in hand
by segueing us into into my point and we'll do
compare contrast.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
If that's all right with it, then it's perfectly fine.
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And before we do that, yes, it's very important we
get plugged.
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Out for our brand.
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Well, that's fine.
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Been watching Back with Future one had its analysis and
Ricky Wolfman went over it and Back to the Future too.
The annalysis of that is coming November in the summer.
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you were mentioning.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
In the beginning of the show podcast about the CD
and so could you please the library.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's a very interesting topic.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, I've always thought so. So there's a thing
that a lot of people don't realize. Compact is CDs.
I mean they were being used. To my understanding, it
was the early seventies for computing. They weren't mainstream because
lasers laser science is the big deal. CDs use a
(18:15):
lot of power because they have moving parts of a
motor and a laser and whatnot, And that was part
of where I'm going with this. The other part I'm
going with this is there was a format called MP one.
Now you were aware of MP three and MP four,
Oh yeah, well those are successive iterations of what was
originally called MP one. Now MP one.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know if it happened in the early eighties,
but it happened around the time of the big computer
boot where you had apples and commodores. Now you could
play it down file on your computer on what was
called an MP one file. Now they were giant files
because memory was very small, and at first you would
(19:00):
be able to do a lot with that. But they
they dashed the industry and people on industry because they
knew the inevitable of what it meant when you have
something like a record. Now, the music industry began with
what they called albums. All right, albums like a photo album.
There was a musical album because it represents the segments
(19:23):
of your time. Photos represent a particular age or an event.
Same thing with an album. Now they were putting albums
on vinyl records. CDs came after a tracks. Then we're
dealing with a simularity. But CDs the thing, the thing
that vinyl records had that A tracks didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
A tracks were re recordable. Yeah, spare this in mind.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
CDs when they were first issued were not a recordable.
Matter of fact, what I remember of the TVs, Yes,
you you just played through the TV. They were not
recordable unless they had CDs that weren't able to be
(20:07):
re recorded on a computer, but you couldn't record over
It took it took them a long time to figure
out how to make rerecordable CDs for a commercial market.
And to my understanding, it was never done officially by
a corporation to my understanding, what was done by some hacker.
(20:28):
But for all I know, that could be some mummer's
tail or some sort of you know, urban legend quote unquote.
The thing that I'm gonna say, though, is when you
have an a track that's rewriteable, you can go to
the store and buy an a track and you could
record from one to another and make a copy, and
when you record that copy, it's free. Kind of like
(20:51):
how the concept that was a step that was missing.
We went straight from a track to CD.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But it said that the first commercial player came out
on this day in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Nineteen eighty two is pretty far back. I mean, a
tracks were still going on. Cassettes were a parallel market.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's about thirty six years ago. It's quite a while.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Ago, and it's beyond obsolete now because no one knows
what a tracks are. Cassettes are a mystery to kids today,
and I remember making mixtapes when I was a kid. Now,
cees are starting to go obsolete where you don't even
see a lot of those anymore. You can see on
my shelves here in the Olkahaus.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Studios where we're recording this podcast, you can see we
have plenty of CDs in here, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Have some cassettes still left my house. I have cassettes,
but very very few because I haven't owned the cassette
player in years. Now, here's the thing about an MP
one that they knew computers weren't going to be going away.
When you have a console video game system, they control
(21:59):
the cartridge and they control the console. Now, the same
thing with the CD. When you have a format that
is frozen, they control the CD player, what it does,
They control the CD what products you get. However, if
you have an MP one, yes, like a giant cleaver,
(22:21):
this however falls if you had an MP one format,
your computer you own today can play it. The computer
you buy two years ago could play it, two years
later could play it. The computer you buy ten years
later can play it. Because if the format would go
ahead and they wouldn't get their money.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
So as soon as they saw the MP.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
One, they did everything within their power to smash it
down because they knew that they would lose all the money.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
From nineteen eighty two, all the way to Napster. And
you remember Napster.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, let me explain about napcident. Download whatever they wanted, Yes,
any any song you wanted, they get downward. Yes. And
the thing is because we had shareable violence.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
What happened or m P three what happened and I.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Will repeat that came around. Yeah, got upset and they said,
you know, shop, we're not We're not getting paid for
our work and everything else.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So that has stopped.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That stopped the sharing that Steve Doped said, Hey, I
had an m P three that it's called an iPod.
It's gonna have music on it and you get paid
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, and I his iTunes was certainly, if not the first,
then one of the first that started to do that.
At the point is is it caught on in a
big way because of the Apple Corporation's success. However, it
represented the gloving of the MP three format into a
(24:14):
control software. Now this is the this is the correlation,
this is the parallel with the automotive industry. But before
you do that, I want to mention its invention of
a website cold YouTube, which has videos of everything, which
(24:41):
means you could watch the videos you wanted from a
long time ago. With that years ago, just staying that, Okay,
(25:02):
well YouTube, what YouTube did was YouTube took your home video.
And I don't mean DHS, I mean I mean a
way I mean DHS. But they were already starting to
get some visual stuff when YouTube it was coming up.
You could take a home cam corner or a digital
camera and take your home videos and make your own
(25:24):
America's Funniest Home video on YouTube. Originally it was just
a cable show that was on cable television where you
saw people's videos that they mailed the DHS they nailed
a copyer. But you basically took that show and turned
it into and exploding inevitable where now any video can
(25:44):
be uploaded onto YouTube from all over the Internet.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And singers on, musicians, anybody else. You can actually propped
off those videos through advertisement for sales and.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Also if you go viral.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
With advertisements, yes, well that goes down and even a
deeper rabbit hole of e commerce and the concept of
the economic Internet, which is a whole other branches singularity
that's beyond this. It has implications with both YouTube and
(26:26):
MP three files. But getting back to the automotive angle,
you can build an automobile on the website. Now you
can tell them what options you want. Now, imagine that
you have mass production for low models, but you also
had a place where you can build your own custom automobile.
(26:49):
And that's what that corporation was for. In other words,
you design every bit of it and it comes off
like you want to instead of Now you know there's
there a dynamic. I make questions, there's engineering limitations, et cetera,
et cetera. There's there's things that you wouldn't be able
to do. But the point is is that the automobile
(27:10):
is significantly taken out of the hands of the owner,
the purchaser. There's a lot you don't have a say over.
When it comes to safety, that's not a problem, but
certain elements of engineering. I know a mechanics and they've
told me various things. When you have a corporation that
(27:32):
has executive control over the engineering, you have no say
in how ridiculous that engineering is. And they engineer obsolescence
into cars. They have failure that's engineered into cars, where
they have things that are time to go at a
certain point. And the point is is it leads us
(27:52):
to the industry. We have today, which is comparable to
MP one. MP one was in the interest of the consumer.
The automobile industry is today. It's hard to say really
if it's in the interesting concern.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
As the cars grow more electronic, more digital, more, I mean,
they're almost like devices. If your car has Bluetooth, it's
some of them are hotspots, some of them are Internet.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So they're becoming more and more technological as far as
the Internet is concerned, which of course assists in all
of the apps and tracking, both known and unknown.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
But now we get to the point of the would
have me forward be able to understand where his industry
went in a century plus, where now we're so far
down the line that we have cars and they're i
mean beyond four there are luxury cars that are mean,
(28:53):
it's getting to the point now where they're saying they're
going to be making self driving cars. Wow, now they're
years off yet, but right around the corner. Because a
lot of people would always say, well, how would you
ever have music in a car? They put record players
in early cars, but that when you bounce on the road,
you can't have a record player in a car. So
(29:15):
eventually they came up with you know, playable cassettes. And
now you have internet in the car, and now you
have this, and now you have that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
So what will tomorrow's car look like?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Is it any interest in the consumer? I don't know
what Henry Ford you can care about the consumer. I
don't know if he's the typical industrialist, probably.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Not, you know, speaking on the future a little bit,
considering this show is Spiritu's Holographica. I want to leave
the show with this note, and then we could do block.
My dad was mentioning to me today that so upcoming
(29:59):
phones are gonna have holographic features, and which means.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You can pump to the person on the phone and.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Through the video they could appear in holographic form.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well this one, my dad was John, Well, what do
you mean holographic like a hope, like an actual like
help help me, help me ob one, Kenolobe, you're my
only hope.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Like, Well, they're developing holograms. I mean they already have
some stuff like that in Japan. I don't know how
far it's coming along, but yeah, eventually, we already have
George Jfson stuff with State Time and Skype. Yeah, so
it's right.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
On the corner when it comes to that question is
will it turn like Star Trek and we'll have transporters,
you know, warp drive and all this good stuff. That's
what I'm interested in, I be, I personally would like
hellfication because.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That way transporters. I could be transporters, because I could
be home and I could go to work without the Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Of course, of course, what he's really saying is without
the hassle of driving an automobile in the modern day
right of way, which is an insurance nightmare and stacked
piles of liability and responsibility for a car. That's wouldn't
(31:37):
it be better if you could just mega man your
way from your house to your job?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And it is that in a perfect way to be
the end of this podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You can tell that Joseph Valdi loves to drive. Yes,
this is the end of the podcast. This has been
Spirits in Solid Drafrica. I'm Ricky Berhart from the OS Network.
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
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