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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Coming to you from the dining room table at East
Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle
the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze
a few headlines through a decidedly queer and tired lend
and see what happens. This episode is brought to you

(00:37):
by Decanta jug wine and a brand new bed excuse me,
sleep system.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I am your host, Charles Tyson Jr.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And I'm your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full
Circle Table.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hi babe, Hi, you have no right having this bed,
I disagree.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well. Yeah, so it's been a damn month since we recorded,
because things died and happened.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I mentioned at the beginning of the almost Lost
episode that just dropped from I believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Was thirteenth Yeah, March, no April or I'm sorry, April
thirteenth five show.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
First, my laptop got the blue screen of death and
I was like, no worries, I'll just use my iPad,
and then the software on the iPad crashed and killed
the episode. Okay, that's fine. I have a desktop I
haven't used in a while, but I bet you'll still
do the job. And then that crashed and doorstop, yeah, doorstop.

(01:55):
I curled up in the feudal position and cried for
about five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
No, anyway, today is May eleventh. Some folks call this
Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
In your case, it's m U t h A mother's.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
All right, then Mother's Day. Yeah, happy Mother's Day. It's
May eleventh. And we have new equipment, yes, a brand
new laptop and a new bed and bed and we
promised to talk about the bed. Yes, because we got
to meet our new friend, Kelly wernersback and she runs

(02:34):
as your sleep Mattress boutique in Marlton, New Jersey. Yes, lord,
And there was a there was this custom made mattress
at the Silent Auction you know that my employer hosts
once a year. And I was bidden on that. In fact,
I was stalking it because her mattress was almost thirty

(03:01):
years old. Many people have slept on it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Sorry, no cony sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And it was queen sized, and it seemed good enough
until we went to go pick out our new mattress
and discovered a what a king mattress could do? B
what a custom made mattress can do? And see what

(03:30):
an adjustable bird can do, and she was amazing. That
was what a what a mattress buying experience.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
To That's what it was. It was an experience.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
We had an appointment. There may have been a little
wine involved, and a really good conversation about how we live,
how we sleep, what you know, the various injuries and
aches and pains we both have, and she paired us
with new sleep system.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yes, it is wonderful. And I understand why you have
to have an appointment, because she needs to take the
time to get to know.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
You right, and you need to lay on, you know,
a couple of different beds for a while and say okay,
this is it, or and I'm not right, So this
one feels like we're floating. It's the damnedest thing because
no matter where I turn, there doesn't feel like there's
pressure pointing back at me. And yet it doesn't feel

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too squishy, but it's definitely not too firm, right, it
feels cradling. The only thing I haven't figured out yet,
and you have this master, is sleeping on my back
because that is apparently ideal right for just the whole thing.
Still a side sleeper, but I'm trying to learn.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I can sleep on my back. It took me
a while to get used to it, because it is
something you have to get used to. And that's true
for I think everyone like. It takes longer for you
to get to sleep, but you sleep much better.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's what I hear. I'm still I'm still working on
that part. But you know, sleeping in my most comfortable
sleep position, which I must have been a side sleeper
all my life, you know, but with my my my
huggy pillow and my pillow between my knees, I'm sleeping
better and I'm not waking up with the same aches

(05:37):
and pains. And I'm I'm I mean, I'm still feeling
benefit from the whole experience. I thought I was your
huggy pillow. Yeah, yeah, till I want to go to sleep.
But no, you know, having a king sized bed, we

(05:57):
realized we can't really comfortably shoulder to shoulder if we
are both laying on our back on a queen mattress.
There's not enough space. Yeah, but this is.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
And my realesting. I don't worry about accidentally rolling over
an elbowing you in your face.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Now that hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
That used to be a worry of mine that used
to happen.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
No, it's it's it really is amazing, and it's it's
composed of latex, wool and hemp, but it's hypo allergenic
and comfy and like wicking and cooling and I'm loving
it same. Yeah, there's there's a lot to love there.

(06:47):
I look forward to going to bed and we have
new pillows that are now I have slept only on
the pillow. I haven't put an extra pillow under my head,
which is another thing I used to do.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You used to need like what sixer.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Something like that, But no, now it's just the one
and it's cradling, and you know that's also made out
of latex and the smaller version of the mattress and
it's lovely. It's been an experience and the bed does everything.
It is adjustable.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So you can raise your feet, you can raise your head,
you can raise both. And it has multiple massage settings,
which is a lovely way to go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I love the the leisure setting, which emulates a lounge.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It really does. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I may or may not have spent a bit of
time editing the last episode in that position.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I'm glad we don't have a television in the bedroom
because I don't think I would leave for real, though,
yeah it's company.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
For five seconds you were like.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Maybe we want to. Yeah, I'm still not a fan,
like bedtime is bedtime and I don't but I understand,
Like I always wondered how people can go to bed
like really early and just like be in their bed
until I got a bed. I don't mind spending time

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in right, It's nice. It's just nice. We would not
have been able to have this probably without the Silent Auction,
but Kelly is a big supporter of recovery and does
some amazing events, and you know, we'll we'll continue to

(08:32):
I think have a relationship there. But I we've had
it now for three weeks. The bed today's eventually only three,
but it's officially been three. The bed was custom made
for us. The mattress. We had to wait for our
mattress to be built and then it was brilliantly delivered

(08:52):
and set up and we were given a tutorial on
how it all works. And Kelly stands behind every things
she sells. So yeah, it's been it's been an incredible experience,
and you know, I we're nowhere near figuring this out.
But apparently the mattress can be repacked to re something

(09:15):
with the latex, so it's a lifetime mattress. Yeah. So
that is what a sleep system is. It's you know,
all encompassing and brilliant and king size. The name of
the company is again, Adjust Your Sleep Mattress Boutique in Marlton,

(09:36):
New Jersey. And if you really want to change your
life and change your rest, Kelly Werner's back is just incredible.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I'm pretty sure she's listening to the show now.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
So Hi, Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say enough.
I can't say enough. I'm blown away that it can
make such a difference. I am feeling more rested. Keep
an insane schedule these days, you know, more so and
more so with every week that passes since this election,
and I'm resting. I'm getting better rest, I'm getting better sleep,

(10:13):
I'm waking up with fewer aches and pains, and I'm
just starting the day more refreshed.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
So and people don't realize how much of an effect
getting good rest or not getting good rest has on
your psyche. And you know, depression is a symptom of
not getting enough sleep.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Sure, good enough rest, and sure yeah it's good for
other stuff too. Exactly, it works, it's working well, cradled always, yes,
without pressure points. Now wonderful, wonderful experience. This was our
wedding gift to ourselves. Yes, not to mention anyone who

(10:55):
gave us money at our wedding, We certainly put that
toward making this happen. And what a life changing experience.
It's the little things and this is the big little things. Indeed, Yeah,
so that happened. Yeah I did, and it's made a
profound difference, you know, in the shit show that is

(11:16):
life in America in twenty twenty five. Yet it what
else is happening? What else do we want to talk about?
It says my wife is a badass. I don't know
what that means. Why am I a bad ass? Let's
do that. I did not mean to leave that part out.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I just saw it well, because you're getting these speaking
engagements and getting recognized for things, and I'm just looking
at you, going look at my baby goat.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'm trying. I you know, one of the things I'm
trying to do is make sure that there's a trans
voice involved in every trans conversation happening because it is
ridiculous to be talking about me or us in this
world and not including us in the conversation. It's part

(12:12):
of how we got here in the first goddamn place,
and I don't want to stay here, you know, And
I've said the upside, if there is an upside to
all of this, is massive education happening at the same time, right,
because we're countering all of the misinformation and the outright
lies with factual information, and people of you know, decent
contents are listening, and so you know, at some point,

(12:38):
assuming I don't know, the only book Trump is right
is mindcom So God is where this ends. Unless we,
you know, rain him in.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
And he had it read to him.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm sure we are probably, but you know, absent all
of that, I think the other side of all this
is more knowledge and compassion. That said, yes, I'm being
asked more and more to go out and talk, and
I'm humbled and honored honestly, because I just want one

(13:11):
of us there in the room while we're being talked
about and while our lives are being dissected. How can
you talk about my life and not have someone like
me present it's valid ask question. Yeah, it's where it's happening.
It is happening. I kind of love it, and you know, yeah,

(13:34):
but it's made me that much busier.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But I am very proud of you, and again not surprised.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, yes I'm a little surprised.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know why, but I love like you're getting
speaking engagements specifically because of who you are, not as
a representative of an organization or a job that you
work at, but because of who you are and the
knowledge that you bring and the experiences that you bring
to the table. And I'm particularly loving that.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Cool, I'll take it. I'm transfer pay I thought about
making that my job description probably.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean, which is not to imply that you're free
off the clock.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's also not so implant I'm getting paid for speaking
all the time sometimes, but no good things are happening,
and I appreciate every opportunity to set the record straight,
every opportunity to you know, implore us to come into community,
you know, our friends and allies and us and everyone

(14:43):
who has a you know, a letter in our glorious
alphabet to understand the bigger picture and understand this effects
all love us indeed. Yeah, And that's the biggest message
I have is there. You know, this is the time
for a community, This is the time for standing together,

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acting together, understanding you know, the balance of the news,
not just the headlines, because the headlines are absolutely ugly,
but you know the folks who are continuing to do
the work and continuing to fight against all this nonsense,
and they're winning.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, So yeah, all right, so now we can talk
about the book.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm listening to all the there's a new put I'm
listening to all the nature that is going on outside
because we have the windows open, because.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's we have lots of nature here. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
So many things have happened since the last time we recorded,
up to and including Pope Francis.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Jd Vance and Kicked. I think they're related. I think
you went this motherfucker and just decided life was no
longer worth living.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I saw a meme that said, I have to go
tell tell on you to Jesus myself personally.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I'm not sure they know what's going on down here,
but they need to.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah. So Pope Francis was eighty eight when he died,
and he had just given the Easter.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Mass, yeah, the day right, right, just.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Which leads me to believe that he was hanging on
for that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I think I think he was hanging on for Easter,
not JD. But I think JD just went okay, I'm done, right,
you know, that would.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Be reason exactly know what else happens, because and then
there's like people saying how the pope was murdered or
something like that up.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Oh please, If he was going to be murdered, they'd
have done that early on, because he was saying, who
am I to judge? He was saying all kinds of
shit that pissed all of them off at the tea
dance that is the Vatican. They did not like that
noise or that smoke exactly, and you know, if somebody's
gonna kill him, yeah, they'd have done it in the beginning,
not now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The second said fagots ain't so bad.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Right right, which you know all the fagots and that
they went, well, we're not, but yeah, we have to
keep up the side.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean they're not.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
They as their dresses matched the drapes Jesus Christ, yeah,
in Prada pumps, yeah, you know, as popes go, right,
pretty good one, I guess, I mean, based on what

(17:36):
we've had and his predecessor, for Chrisich, Dear God did.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
More demonstrable good than harm.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
That this one. This yeah, not the not Ratzenberger. His
name was. He looked like a red.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
He looked like evil and was Yeah, he scared me.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
So this one was better and humble, and I believe
lived his faith to the best of his And I
think had he not had all the other queens go
and not so fast, you know, we would have heard
more of that, more of the who am I to judge,
more of the you know message I think he was
trying to say and shared before he was made pope, right,

(18:20):
so you know, as they go, I don't get but
I was raised a Catholic, no secret, you know, and
they abandoned me. It wasn't the other way around. Word.
I just found out there was no place for authenticity
an honesty within that religion for me. They weren't making

(18:41):
room for me. And that the begrudging room that they've
made of late is you know, as long as you
stay celibate, I guess you get to exist. And I
felt like saying, Queen you first, that part every fucking
one of you. How dare you?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
But whatever, because I'm sure when Pope Francis said, who
am I to judge, there were at least three people
in the Vatican who took the Clarence dicks out of
their mouth simultaneously went what did she say?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So yeah, they all had their fingers crossed when they
made that vowl. Not whatever, But there's plenty. You know,
It's been a place to go and hide if you
were queer or otherwise for a long time. And I
wish we would just tell the truth about that. I mean,

(19:33):
you know, the thing that buggled my mind is you
know so many of the Eastern right right that they
are allowed to marry, their priests are allowed to marry,
and yet the Roman Catholic Church acknowledges them as Catholic. Oh,
just open it up like that, right, come on, right,
come on.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Because oppression never breeds any kind of like forward thinking.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah we don't and whatever. But like I said, I
raised in the faith, and certainly I know plenty about it,
been de masked more times than I can count. And
they left me because there was no way for me
to keep telling the truth and live authentically within their boundaries.
So yeah, sorry you left me behind, but you did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I spent thirteen years in Catholic school, and I turned
away from that whole thing just because I could not
reconcile what they were saying about me versus what I
knew of myself. And my whole thing was, you know,
I trust me more than I trust y'all. So I'm
just going to assume that I'm right.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, raised two kids in Catholic school, raised to atheists,
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I said to a friend of mine just yesterday, nothing
makes you question religion like a Catholic school education.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Its true, true, and you know, and I had to
get the perspective from like another. Actually it was an
American Baptist, eric theologian, Bible scholar, demon you know, the
whole nine yards, who said everyone doesn't approach religion like

(21:12):
it's a cafeteria line, like you all do, and some
of us continue to question what is right and what
is moral and what is justice and we keep honing
our faith. And that changed, you know, my perspective because
I was raised at the cafeteria line. You know, if

(21:34):
it don't apply, let it fly, you know what I mean.
Like the whole birth control thing. That's cute, but nobody
wants that. Many kids like all of it, all of it.
And you know, I've watched too many people of faith
turned away because they also wanted to be authentic. And
we're not creating a better world by not acknowledging that

(21:58):
queer people and trans people exist in this world. We're
just not. And I've refused to participate anymore. So that's
where I stand.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
You said, Dan Deacon.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Huh, you had said, d men, doctor of ministry. D men,
it's his degree. I've never heard that before. D And
look at me learning things doctor? He has a doctor,
got it? Yeah? As a pastor? Thank you? Yep, that's

(22:32):
what I mean. And you know, I love those conversations.
We know lots and lots of people who are theologians
and biblical scholars and you know, but are willing to
keep their minds open. And my my criteria has always been,
as long as we can keep one corner of this
conversation open to say this might all be bullshit, then

(22:53):
we can talk about religion. We can talk about Christianity
and faith and the Bible. And but you know, the
minute we start to say I know more than you,
I know, more than humans can know. That's where we
go astray, that's where you know, this becomes cult like quickly.

(23:15):
Oh yeah, and humans stop being humane And that's should
be your measure. That should be your yardstick hunanity, your
ability to be humane and compassionate and empathetic and reasonable
and not judge others just because you don't understand them.

(23:37):
And if that is becomes outside your realm of experience,
you're not on the correct path. I don't give a shit.
What you think you're thinking is diluted and you should
check it. Bam bam. But yeah, anyway, we got.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
A new pope and this he's he's.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I mean in some way, like I love the fact
that the right wing is furious. That's a good sign.
But there's some problematic things being said. I mean, he
was covering up some pedophilia. Yep, he's made some homophobic
comment yep. Yeah, this is not the second coming of Christ. No,

(24:16):
but he is actually just light skinned.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, I just found Yeah, we got a black pope.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
How about it?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
And people are gonna be like he's creole. Yeah, we
got a black pope. Oh well, it's just his grandparents
that were.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
By your own definition of what black is. We got
a black pope right right, yeah, mm.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hmm, that being said all skinfolk and kinfolk. And you know,
like I said, that photo of him, he had that
little smirk on his face, like he got a secret
that we're not supposed to be able to catch.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It in a secret that don't look like a secret.
It looks like an invitation. I've seen that smile.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Before, exactly, and it comes right before, right after saying
oh honey.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yep that or yeah, no, honey comes out.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Or do you mind if I see it?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Or that? I but yes, the fourteenth, Yes, it all
seems so irrelevant. I guess I don't know a good Yes,
he's Poplar the fourteenth whatever, there's been Leo's before him, right,

(25:39):
and now watch all of the world respect to chosen name. Right,
how about that?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's almost like it's not hard.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right when you want to, you can do it. You
can do it so easily, and so many will. Yeah,
so that happened. I wasn't really paying attention because I
didn't care exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
All I know is that it took a lot less
time to pick this pope than it did to pick
the last ones, Like it felt like it was like
a week's long thing.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I you know, I'm going to give them a tiny
bit of credit because there were apparently some hardcore conservative
cardinals in the running who were not selected. The little
bit I've heard said that this was Pope Francis's choice
as a as a success. So really that is what
I have heard and read. So I guess good, you know,

(26:39):
and we'll see, we'll see. Well, yeah, let's avoid the
thing that happened that was the most you know, y'all
can call me a blasphemer for existing all you want,
but the President of the United States sharing a picture
of him in Pontiff's clothing.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Oh right, yeah, what of that?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Christians? What of that? He was just Josh and I
wish yeah, and had Obama Josh like that or by
Josh like that, they would want them executed. And yet
how did this go by? Like like it didn't happen
like that Senile doult in the White House didn't actually

(27:24):
do this and share it?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Don't doesn't even feel like a strong enough word.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh my god, Like what the fuck? Don't give me
to lie? Like what are we living through? Is that?
You know? Yeah, m don't give me the lie Joe,
But you know that's that's what we is, so come blasphemy. Yeah,
we used to say, well.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm going to be skeptical as fuck about this new
pope because I'm skeptical as fuck about the papacy in general.
So religious trauma and all.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That, right, I mean, I don't give a shit who's
running the evangelicals right now, so I don't really know.
It's kind of the same, right. Y'all told me I
was no longer invited to the party, and I heard.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You not to mention none of it really matters anymore,
especially considering that people who are following the current administration
have already straight up said that Jesus teachings would be
considered weak now and that woke shit. So you know what,
how do you do that? Nothing means nothing, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Because these were they, you know, this crop of people
started out you know, being you know, biblical realists whatever
we call that. You know that that's the inherent word
of God. And how do we get away from that
idea to this? Like seriously, seriously, yeah, because y'all have

(28:53):
a lot to be ashamed of. And if there is
a judgment day, which I guess they don't believe in
because there probably isn't anyway, y'all are on the wrong side.
I mean, the people that think they would be if
there were a heaven, the people who think they're going
versus the people who would probably go. Is that is
the irony I wait for. You know, if there is

(29:16):
life after death, I want it to be as ironic
as I assume it will be, and just as funny
well be, cause yeah, the people I want to see
again are probably not in that heaven that they describe,
and the people who insist they're going to heaven I

(29:37):
don't want to see again. That's all I know.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It'll be like the TV show they look around and go,
wait a minute, this is the bad place.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a dirt nap, but if not,
I hope it's ironic, you know, I do. I hope
it's ironic.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So besides the Pope, a few more people died. I
only have the list here up to when I was
last paying attention, so there might have been more since this,
but we'll care about that next week, I guess.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Okay, So Ruth Buzzy died. I know I saw that Yeah.
She eighty eight. Also, I think was eighty eight. Yeah,
it's you know what, that's a good age. Yeah, that's
not much to complain about. I mean, my mother was
eighty seven and that was seven years too late. But yeah,

(30:38):
eighty eight is a decent long life. It's almost ninety. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
She was a most notably famous for being on Ronan
Martin's Laughing. My really major introduction to her was on
The Muppet Show. She was like one of the first
two or three guests on the show. Yeah, And as
a reference, there was a stand up comedian and she

(31:05):
was saying that people, uh said she looked like Ruth Buzzy,
And she was like, I just nod and smile and
say is she pretty?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Do look like.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah? I could picture of Ruth Buzzy saying that do
I look like her? And Jiglie Kelly and so young
I know, so young. Yeah, one of the queens we
have met, Yes, done a little time with Yeah, and she.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Was sweet and a wonderful performer. When we saw her perform,
she did a number two, a jazz R and B
version of Michael Jackson's The Way You Make Me Feel
And I was like, okay, you the real deal and
she was very sweet, took a nice picture. Yeah, Bianca

(31:56):
Castro Arabeo.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, that was so quick and it was some kind
of an infection that just kept.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
All that really came out was she had a serious
health issue that resulted in her having to get her
leg amputated, and then not even three days later, maybe
two days later, she passed away.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I believe she was forty four.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, young, young, young. And they had a private ceremony
for the family. They had one for the fans that
was more public. So it's a shame because you know,
she was her her star was definitely on the rise.

(32:48):
You know, she got to host Drive Ra's Philippines for
three seasons and people used to give her shit, saying like,
how can you get to be a judge of a
show when and you only made it so far on
Drag Race. She was like, well who else A knows
drag Race and B knows Filipino culture more than me?
Please and thank you of every much, like I got

(33:11):
none to say. Rest and power girl and Jill Sobule died.
That made me sad. Jill sobule Yes, she sang in
the nineties. Her big hit was I Kissed a Girl,
not that Katie Perry bullshit.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But that was the pre I kissed her girl.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, like she it was actually about being a girl
who kisses girls and liked it because she liked kissing girls.
And this is the nineties. That was like major punk rock,
you know. And her other big hit was from the
soundtrack of the movie Clueless called Supermodel, which was also fun.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
And she was young sixty four, sixty six, sixty six
and that was a house fire.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, it was an untimely death.
I mean, in my opinion, they're all untimely, but.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Not all. But I know a lot of people are
praying for one.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Anyway, So rest in peace, Jill Sobuell.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
That made me sad.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, So we have a lot of good news. I
think we should take a quick break and then come
back with that because there's a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, good, let's do that. Okay, we'll be right by, right,

(34:50):
and we're back.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
We're back.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So apparently Marjorie tail Or Green wants to be a
senator now and she came in dead last in a poll. Yeah,

(35:15):
is her. John Ossoff is wayheadever he is the incumbent senator. Yeah,
so he would be beaten by current Georgia Governor Briant Kemp,
but holds commanding leads over three other Republican candidates. Mm hm,

(35:38):
as Kemp running, I guess he is? I guess so.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, she was met with the resound No bitch.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
None of them have publicly actually pledged to run. But
Kemp cut forty nine percent, yes, and also have cut
forty six. Raffen Sperker cut thirty nine percent, while Osof
got forty eight and King whoever that is, got thirty

(36:07):
eight percent to Asof getting fifty one. Green, on the
other hand, got thirty seven percent, with as Off at
fifty four. So of course they're going to try to
run Camp obviously or not. I would love to see
her push her way into this race and loose spectacularly.

(36:30):
Is that why this is in good news? Just the
thought of it, just the fact that would be so wonderful.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Her not getting any kind of praise and it being
on paper.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, she bought her seat and uh yeah, it wasn't
worth the money. Yeah anyway, So that's all just ha ha,
that's all just hah, okay, okay, I mean it's a
big race. All of them are. Now, you know, all
the Republicans who joined the administration have to give up
their seats, you know, leave a vacancy that could stop

(37:04):
us from fascism and save democracy.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, hopefully folks vote accordingly. But I have nothing. I
don't know even what to hope.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Nothing surprises me anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Right, but yeah, that's another opportunity for sanity to prevail. Yes,
fingers crossed, it's Georgia. Well, you know, I mean I
would love for that to happen. I love it when
you know, sanity comes out of corners we didn't expect
it to come from. That always makes that that gives

(37:34):
me like little tiny glimmers of hope exactly. I like this.
I'm a fan myself. How about Robert de Niro, Yeah,
I love.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
How he came out publicly in support of his trans
daughter when she came out. Aaron is her name, And
you know, he made a statement to multiple news outlets
that he loved and supported his daughter before she came out, right,

(38:03):
and nothing's changed. I love and support Aarons, my daughter,
he said. And I don't know what the big deal is,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Right right? Yeah, she's telling me who she is and
I believe her. Wow, what a concept, right.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
He then added, I love all my children, and he
was like, I don't have favorites.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I swear so. Aaron de Niro is twenty nine right
and beautiful? Oh yeah, and yeah it should be just that.
That's all we're looking for. Leave us alone, Leave us alone,
let us slip right, y'all. Are the ones doing all this,

(38:41):
y'all are the ones, you know, publicizing and politicizing, not us.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I love how she said. Aaron said, I think a
big part of my transition is also the influenced black
women have had on me. I think stepping into this
new identity while also being more proud of my blackness
makes me feel closer to them in some way, because,
let us know, I forget Robert de Niro, Oh yeah,
does has and always will love him some black women,

(39:08):
Yes he does.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yes, Lord, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I remember all going back all the way to remember
him and Naomi Campbell. Yep, he loved him some. Naomi
campb course, I mean, how can you not?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Right? But to my knowledge, I mean like he's never
been a fetishist, and he's never been obnoxious about it. No, yeah, okay, it.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Just bees what it be.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
And yeah, I mean I I would not be anywhere
near who I am were it not for the black
women that I love, admire and follow, mother Maya being
at the front of that list, you know, in the
words that she left behind, and and you know the
example that she set. Yeah, it resonates. It resonates throughout humanity.

(40:04):
You know why, because she was a human right? Yeah? Period.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
So big up to the DeNiro family, right, Pedro Pascal
speaking of people supporting their their trans siblings.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
He's a he's uh, protect the dolls right shirt.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
He made the protected Dolls shirt popular and mine is
coming well good. I just got my email saying that
it's being shipped.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
And you know, and somehow this started an argument about dolls.
Mm hmm, could people focus? Goddamn? The term did come
out of ballroom? Yeah, that has its origins there. Okay, fine,

(40:59):
it's it's been adopted.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, I believe.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Initially the argument is like, who are we actually talking
about when we say dolls?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Initially, the term, I believe was to the girls who
have like put all the work in to be the
quote unquote perfect female.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Us.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I guess well, Queen's definitely, but that have put all
the work in to have that quote unquote perfect female.
What's the word I'm looking for? Like image? Like you
know the dolls is in you're a barbie, you're a
walking barbie. But the term is now.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I mean trace that uses it all the time because
she came up among right, the dolls, right, but now
the term is right is.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Used like across the board for all the trans girls,
like the dolls, the ladies, the girls.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's yeah, it is referencing trans women. Yeah, perhaps not
as broadly as some feel, and perhaps that is not
the point at the moment, just saying because I am exhausted.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I mean I've always heard it as just a straight
up term of affection towards trans woman.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
So did I. But then yeah, I travel in those circles.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
So yeah, that's how I took it, right specifically, you
don't want to fuck with the dolls?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right now? Were they talking about that? Stop? We know
a lot of culture come from where from whence it comes?
We understand that, right. I am certainly not saying I
created it, but I am saying I think we should
stop arguing about it right now. It's a nice thing
he did, and it was a message, and I think

(42:49):
he understands who he was talking about. But it doesn't
just mean put white trans women in front of a
firing squad while we protect black trans women. That's not
what it means. But it's almost like that's what the
rhetoric is saying. It's like, shut up, just stop, we

(43:10):
got bigger shit going on. It's Ben who said what
when it's like it's a lovely.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
We are not going to all Lives Matter supporting trans women.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Oh but we are, Oh but we are. And yeah,
and I think it's wonderful. You know, this is a
brother supporting.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
His sister period exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
And it's taken hold and it's an important message. And
I'll take everyone, you know. I'm I hate being the
one to say now it's not the time to argue semantics.
But it's not for a though. It's not like, let's

(43:51):
all I want to stand together, I swear to God
I do. I want to use every ounce of any
privilege I have for all of us. Like I get
how we're all in are connected. I just wish more
of us would, But Jesus Christ, I know, I know
we can make a controversy out of a fucking breakfast cereal,

(44:12):
Like we could point to it and we can start
an argument anyway. Nice T shirts.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, and I got a variation of the one that
Pedro Pascal made famous.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Because like his is white with black latter.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, it's white with plain black letter. I don't wear
white T shirt for one thing. I do not wear
a white T shirt. Mine is black and it's in
a thicker font protect the dolls, and dolls is in
the trans colors.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, yea, Like mine's in like an edgy, like scratchy
font because you know, I gotta okay, be a little different.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
That sounds fun and I love it. And you know,
we have an artist friend who's putting it on purses
and spreading the message.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I know it's a clutch that says but the dolls,
and I kind of want you to have it. Lord
knows how much.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
You want a bigger purse, because yeah, what am I
going to put in a clutch. I'm a guyver when
it comes to my purse. You do whatever you want, girl,
I have it, and I will help you you get
a screwdriver.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Here, you can marry pop in some shit. You have
a little tiny purse and then you'll reach way down
under the bottom up to your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You need a file, tweezers, a tampon, I got, I
got you covered. Yeah, whatever you need.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
A girl, it's like, how do you fit Narnia in there?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I just do I just do, you know? I know
what I need to get through a day. And uh, yeah,
that's all useful. Yes, that was a drag queen.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
A lady do need?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I don't. I don't carry duct tape anymore, but I'm
not above doing it if they could make it.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
You know, perse women do be carrying a handbag at night,
because a lady can never be too short at night.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
M h yeah. And many of the dolls carry a
ball pain hammer. Huh.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I never forget that time I saw one of the
girls pull a ball peen hammer out of a clutch bitch.
I was like, oh, oh, come on, Mary Poppins.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Because this ain't new, neither are we, and some of
y'all been pushing this evil for a long time. That's right,
So anyway, no, and I love I love it. May
it carry on there's nothing negative there. It's you know,

(46:32):
and and thank you for the message. Because we are
too small a minority to fight this alone. We need
the people who love us and care about us. We do,
you know, And and if we say we don't, we're wrong.
I mean, I agree. We should be leading the conversation

(46:55):
about us. We should be in the front of that discussion.
We should always be included as we're talked about because
we're generally maligned. But at the end of the day, yeah,
it takes allies. You know, we can't fight every Republican
on every front. There aren't enough of us, exactly. We

(47:16):
do need people of good conscience and decency to stand
with us. So, you know, that's a message that resonates, and.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
It's being picked up by more and more people. There's
a whole bunch of celebrities have been seen wearing the shirt,
like Charlie Xys and Till the Swinton choice of van likes.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
So if I say, I know they weren't talking about
me originally, can we move on please? Yeah, So the
shirt is coming through a lot of folks. Hey, it's
it beats the ship out of a red Maga hat. No,
that's right, and nobody argues were I mean, other than
they came from China. But we're not, you know, like

(47:58):
just not picking at each other.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Stop it, stop it, please, So moving on. This is
from April twenty fifth. Trump's anti DEI policy for schools
was stopped by three different judges in federal lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
One judge pointed out that the Department of Education used
to consider fighting racism to be a good thing. Yes, yes,
so basically, what are we doing.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's insanity, yeah, oh, it is insanity. No one said
the last throes of the patriarchy wouldn't be ugly. And
here we are. Here, we are look at every on
every front. This is white male supremacy flexing its last muscle,
trying to tell everyone else they don't exist. It's discussed.

(48:53):
It's sad and seconding, and it's a shame. So many women,
you know, are on board with them. They're women yeap.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Three federal judges have separately ruled against the Trump administration's
threats to cut federal funding for schools with diversity, equity
and inclusion programs. The first ruling came in a lawsuit
brought by the National Education Association and the American Civil
Liberties Union against the Department of Education. The lawsuit challenges
the Dear Colleague letter that the DOE sent out on

(49:24):
February fourteenth, in which the DOE warned that educational institutions
receiving federal grants would have those grants withheld if they
were found to be engaging in de practices. Though what
is considered a DII practice doesn't even clearly explained base.
I mean, it could have just said that woke shit.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Let me say acknowledging that diversity exists because it clearly does.
Striving for equity, which just means actually leveling the playing
field and not celebrating white mediocrity anymore, just means, you know,
let's give everyone a shot, and inclusion means we don't

(50:07):
pretend people don't exist. And yet that's what they're working toward,
that's what they care about, that's what they want. That's
the majority of America. Last I checked, you don't want
anyone who isn't you. And that was the bullies ethos

(50:28):
when I was in grade school. What's nothing's changed among
those mediocre white men and the women who love them. Yeah,
that's sad. I'm sorry your Grandma's in pictures screaming at
black people. I didn't do that, she did, you know.
I'm sorry, that's kind of embarrassing, but yeah, Nana was

(50:50):
a racist. Fucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Sorry, like what Nana was a peckerwood cracker.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I'm just gonna say. And I never mentioned, you know,
my comeback, but you know my our organization doubled down
on DEI. We we strengthened the language to make it
less ambiguous, more clear, right that it matters and we
understand it, and it's an ethos, so that you know,

(51:20):
and that's you know, the thing that every new employee
learns because if that's not okay with you, you don't
belong here in healthcare period. Yeah you don't. You get
you get a minute to learn. But if you can't
acknowledge that we're all here, goodbye.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Right And so now it's not just individuals or individual organizations,
but we've got judges also.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Saying like thank god, well some of them, right.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
This can't stand.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I'm not pleased with the Supreme Court right now, but
let going.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
We'll get into that later.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I know it's coming Spokane, is it Spokane or Spokane Spokane?
So the e asylent or something. It's not a hardy
not to be confused with a hard r right, got it? Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Bocan passes LGBTQ plus rights ordinance to protect trans folks
from the federal government.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Thank you, because that's where we are, folks. We need
to protect some of us from our own government. Yeah,
it wasn't supposed to be this.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
The City Council of Spokane, Washington, has passed an ordinance
enhancing protections for LGBTQ plus people with a focus on
protecting trans folks.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Council members voted five to two to implement the ordinance,
which updates the city's Human Rights Code to define gender
affirming care and ensure equal protections for LGBTQ plus people.
A press release explained that both Spokane municipal code and
state law already provide protections for LGBTQ plus people, but
the ordinance adds language to quote acknowledge the inherent risks

(53:10):
faced by the LGBTQIA two s plus community in Spokane,
particularly due to federal policies and inter jurisdictional legal processes
from states that do not recognize lgbtq IA two s plus.
I love that they spell it all out rights or
are working to deny such individual's access to essential medical care,

(53:31):
including gender affirming care.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, the policy prohibits the city from collecting or disseminating
information about anyone's sex assigned at birth unless it's related
to a criminal investigation.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
You know, I'm just I'm listening, and I'm just sitting
here thinking. You know, when Kletus finally has those last
three teeth, polls stop so that you know he can
get dentures and a densibly eat corn on the cob
again in some way. Uh, I don't think it's my business,

(54:06):
Like I don't. I don't want to stop him from that.
And if he can get dental implants, so much the
better baby before over fo you do it. I don't
think that's my business, you know, Cletus and his relationship
to a toothbrush and fluoride not you know, I have
no I'm not going to comment on that because it

(54:28):
has nothing to do with me, you know, Kleatus, I
get it. I understand what you want, and I'm gonna
stay out of your healthcare as long as you stay
out of mind. How about that sounds fair to me? Right,
do what you're gonna do, and I want you to
eat corn I do. I want you. I want you
to be able to smile at your sister and you know,

(54:51):
bring her flowers. I just want you to stay the
fuck away from my life too. Yeah, I know what
I need and I'm not going to tell you what
you need a bath.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I'm just picturing the little unwashed children going my auntie,
mommy and uncle Daddy love each other so much. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I know it's wrong. It's wrong, but you know the
point stance like it stands right, shut up, O, shut up,
I will if you will, you first, and you know
we should. Yeah, we need. We need to pass laws
because they're trying to pass laws right while they you know,

(55:39):
distract from the fact that they are not governing, They're
not doing what you need them to do. They're not
doing what you elected them to do. They're not running
this country or your municipality. They're not making your life better.
They're focusing on a very small minority of people, namely
trans people. Yeah, as a complete distraction, while they've raid

(56:03):
the coffers of the United States and hope that will
trickle down. It's such bullshit. Yeah, and I'm sorry we
still have a Republican Party because it's a joke. But
you know, I'm willing to stay the fuck out of
your life if you'll stay out of mine. Exactly. Yeah.
But we yeah, we need more of that and less

(56:27):
of what we're hearing federally. I'm up off my soapbox.
Get continue.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Council member Zach Zepony said, LGBTQI A twos plus people
deserve the freedom to make their own health care decisions
and deserve to feel safe in our community. That freedom
and safety are under threat across the country, this ordinance
ensures the city continues to protect I'm gonna start saying queer,
queer people and that they know that in Spokane, we

(56:54):
all belong good.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
That they won't get that they're included in this until
they're included in that.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
But y'all are.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, y'all are so good for spoken.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
If you ain't white, educated and connected, you're at risk.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Hell even into a certain point.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
M M.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
But big ups to Spoken.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
We have listeners there. Yeah, Facebook, Hey, Democrats, reintroduce the
Equality Act and praise LGBTQ plus community's incomparable strength. You
This is the sixth time the legislation has been introduced.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
So House and Senate Democrats reintroduced the Equality Act This
is April twenty nine, a bill that would add LGBTQ
plus anti discrimination protections to the nineteen sixty four Civil
Rights Act. This is the sixth time the bill has
been introduced, as you said, since twenty fifteen. Democrats held

(58:05):
an almost hour long press conference to reintroduce the bill.
Speakers included out Senator Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, out Rep.
Mark Takano of California, out Rep. Chris Poppas of New Hampshire,
Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi, Senator Corey Booker of New Jersey,

(58:26):
Senator Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and Senator Jeff Murkley.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I thought it was Merkle, but whatever of Oregon.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Of Oregon. Freedom is the right to participate fully in
every aspect of our national life, Merkley declared to open
the press conference. Freedom is the right to live as
your authentic self without fear. Freedom is the right to
be treated as equal with all other Americans.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yes, it was, and it's supposed to be yep.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Since day one of this administration, he continued, our authoritarian
president and his lackeys have been trying to erase and
endanger LGBTQ plus Americans by green lighting discrimination against the
entire community in critical aspects of daily life, with particularly
vicious attacks on transgender Americans.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Find the line cannot not there.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
No one should be discriminated against because of who they
are or whom they love. That is why we must
pass the Equality Act.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It seems clear.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Yeah. He has whole and complete, whole, complete and total
faith in the Constitution, and we have seen and overcome
darker times before. That was Takano, Okay, Yeah, we have.
He reminded listeners that being out was once nearly impossible
and our existence was once universally criminalized. Yep. Yeah. We

(59:55):
were born for this fight. We inherited grit resistance and
incomparable strength from our ancestors. We will not stop until
the Equality Act is the law of the land. Good,
don't the era stilling past? Yeah, that's been my entire life,

(01:00:18):
I think, most of it. Yeah, because God forbid. You know,
Biden had pledged to sign it. I remember that it
was one of the central promises made by the Biden campaign.
Of course, it did not succeed. The House did pass
the bill, but it was never taken up in the Senate. Shucker,

(01:00:39):
God bless them. Yeah, it's been introduced in every session
of Congress since twenty fifteen, though the original version of
the bill. Oh maybe we're talking about the same thing
was proposed in nineteen seventy four. That sounds like the
ra In twenty nineteen, the House of Representatives asked the

(01:01:00):
bill for the first time, but the Republican controlled Senate
did not even bring it up for a but because
in their minds, we will never all be equal, right, okay,
fun story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, so moving on to Poland?

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Uh huh Poland? Who says that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Right, we don't move on to Poland? We leave Poland?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
But okay, Poland finally repealed the country's last quote LGBT
free zone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Oh good, so they stopped deluding themselves about the last
neighborhood where they were deluding yeah itselves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, basically the zones backfired, drawing widespread condemnation and economic
consequences for the East European country, which is good because
they were having a moment of real homophobic presence in
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I know, and I want to see that part of
the world so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I mean, my people are Hungarian, My people are very.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Hungarian, and Hungary is not the place for you to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Be right now new But I mean, I would love
to see it. I hear it's beautiful. It might explain
so much about my fabulous people, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Maybe from the air right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
And it's a shame because yeah, yeah, they're my folks,
or they were right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
But ten years after the far right Law and Justice
Party was elected to power in Poland, and two years
after their defeat in national elections, a last vestige of
the party's state sanctioned anti LGBTQ plus policies has finally
been eliminated again. This is April twenty eighth. On Thursday,

(01:02:46):
a council in the southeastern Polish town of Lankut officially
abolished the country's last remaining LGBT free resolution. The resolution,
introduced by the previous government, was one amongst about one
one hundred that declared local regions LGBT free or banning
LGBT ideology. That fucking word, I love that word, barring

(01:03:11):
the quote promotion of homosexuality and other minority sexual identities,
especially in schools, promoting it Yeah. The declarations drew criticism
from human rights groups as well as the European Union,
which withheld funding from Poland on the grounds the resolutions
were discriminatory and breached the multinational blocks fundamental values True.

(01:03:35):
The move resulted in the freezing of billions of euros
worth of funding to Poland. The only way you get
people's attention is through their pockets. That just seems to
be the way that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Works, not through their brains or their compassion, because that
ain't worked in a while now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
In twenty twenty two, Poland Supreme Administrative Court ruled that
the effect of the resolutions was a violation of the dignity, honor,
good name, and closely related private life of a specific
group of residents and deemed them unconstitutional. The court held
that Poland has a duty to protect all its citizens,
including members of minority groups. In the aftermath, all the

(01:04:13):
local resolutions were repealed, leaving Lincut the final holdout of
the country.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Sounds like what we should do in Florida and Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Chall Chaul Jacob Gowran, an activist who ran the so
called Atlas of Hate and interactive online map illustrating the
regions with the lgbt Free Declarations said counselors have been
taught a lesson not to succumb to propaganda that appeals
to their emotions. The repeal in Poland comes amid wave

(01:04:42):
of anti LGBTQ plus legislation arising in the fellow EU
member nation of Hungary. I know, as well as Vladimir
Putin's continued crackdown on LGBTQ plus identity in Russia with
its implementation successfully broader anti gay propaganda laws. So I
guess got to chip away at this rock.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Okay, Yeah, I mean good stuff. Yeah, it's good news.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
It is good news.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah, whenever Sanitay prevails, it's good news.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Marlon Lands, I love how he's staying in ten toes
down in his stands to support his trans son Kai,
because you know how black folks love to clown people
that are loving the children.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Sometimes I do. But he went on Michelle Obama's podcast
Yes and said he went from denial to complete acceptance
of his trans son Kai. Yes, and he was actually
there with his brother Damon. Okay. Yeah. It was the
April thirtieth episode of The IMO with Michelle Obama and

(01:05:49):
Craig Robinson that's her Brother of Course podcast while discussing
parenting advice, and you can check that podcast out. Yeah,
Marlon said that Kay's transitioned taught me what real unconditional
love was when they went through the transition. I actually
went through the transition. I went from denial to complete

(01:06:10):
acceptance and it took me a week to get there. Well,
thank god it was only a week. Right. Lance joked
that although he believes only God can judge, if there's
a mistake and we get to heaven and God don't
let my child in, I'm going to shave a beard
and sneak them in through the back. I'm going to

(01:06:32):
love my baby. I'm a father and I'm always going
to defend them. I'm always going to protect them. I'm
always going to respect them. And there's nothing anybody could
ever tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Bam.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah. He added that when it comes to the public's
reaction to him supporting Kai, he could care less about
losing fans in the process. There is I lost people
that are small minded, small heart and self love then truth,
So goodbye. For every one I lose, I gain one

(01:07:07):
hundred and fifty more truth. At least not the first
time he's used his platform. Back in February, he defended
his son after a soldier boy called him a transferbic slurll,
publicly feuding with Wayne with the fun Why, and during
a September twenty four appearance on The Jennifer Hudson Show,

(01:07:29):
he explained that after his son came out, I went
through the five stages of grief to get to the beautiful,
magical place called acceptance. Okay, Kai is the same child
they was before. They've just got a beard now, Okay,
same baby. Yeah, there we go. Good job. It's that simple, period.

(01:07:56):
It should be that simple. This My blood is boiling.
This is chilling, beyond beyond, and everyone who says it
isn't is deluded.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I know that's right. This was just six days ago.
On the fifth, twenty police rated a gay bar for
a quote compliance check. It's in good News because it
says then the patrons did something surprising, not surprising to us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
This was in Pittsburgh. Yeah, this is close to home.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, so p Town Bar was the place in the
middle of a drag event. Drag artist Indigo was performing
alongside trans model and nightlife legend Amanda Lapoor love Her
when police began to gather in the back of the establishment.
When Indica finished her rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody, police directed

(01:08:56):
patrons to exit the bar, but did not explain why
beyond sang it was a compliant check.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
We waited thirty minutes outside for them to inspect every crevice,
India told q Bird, but the patrons and performers refused
to let the cops quash the spirit and instead created
their own public performance space. Video captured during the weight
shows the crowds belting Chapel Rowan's Pink Pony Club while
India dances up and down the side while collecting tips.

(01:09:26):
Guess what Diva's She said when the performance ended. This
is why queer people have got to stick the fuck
together in twenty twenty five. Make some noise for the
queer people in your life, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Witnesses said officers would not look the queen's in the
eye and would not answer their questions about why things
like this never happen at straight bars. Indica also said
that some officers even asked to take selfies with La Poor.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
If y'all get the fuck out my face with that,
So basically we're forgetting about stone Wall evidently, and if
you want to see Pittsburgh go up in flames, well,
this is the way to do it, because you know,
I recognize we have this thing where we don't want
to pay attention to history.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I gotta tell you we ain't doing that again. And
nobody hesitating about we're not doing that again. We are
not participating. We are not going to fluffy your egos.
You better knocket the fuck off now before this gets ugly,
because it will, it will quickly, it will quickly. We

(01:10:39):
know that much of our history. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Do you want upside down cop cars on fire? Because
that's how you get upside down cop cars exactly. I'm
just saying exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Stay the fuck out, you know. And the ones that
are going well, there were there were, you know, like
I don't know, zoning, No, baby, No, there's a way
to address those. This is not it. You don't send
twenty cops unless you're doing it at the straight bars
to point to one. Thank you, just one. I'll wait, Yeah,

(01:11:12):
show me where down the street they went through this, yeah,
and then y'all better back up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
So the good news of this is simply a celebration
of our resilience as queer people in the face of sis.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Heat nonsense, right, and these baby cops are saying, can
I get a selfie? Which is again, that's the other thing,
you know what I mean? And nobody wants to join
you all, and the ones that do are not signing
up for this kind of Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I hope Amanda knocked him in the eye with her
left hit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
No, I'm sure she signed it and said, baby, do
something else.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I mean, that's probably exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
But oh god, yeah, it's exhausting, It's exhausting. But yeah,
that was right in Pittsburgh. You know what, if y'all
want to play fuck around and find out, keep doing it,
because you will keep doing it. Fuck around and find
find out. You will find out. We didn't come this
far to only come this far. We did not come

(01:12:16):
this far to for y'all to start putting our names
back in the paper as if we have done something
wrong by existing. We are not there anymore. We ain't
going back. Nobody's going back. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So that is a perfect transition to get us into
our favorite segment, which we like to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Call people taking pleasure in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Name, And it just so happens to be the motherfucker
who started this whole segment in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
George Say Antis is going to ha oh god, and
Queen what the fuck? Seven years in prison for fraud? Yep.
A lack of remorse prompted prosecutors to ask for the
maximum sentence. Good. Yeah, and the judge in the case

(01:13:20):
agreed because this little sociopath.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Give her all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Oh my god. Yeah. Sentenced to eighty seven months in
prison for crimes including wirefraud, aggravated identity theft, money laundering,
and a host of other frauds and deceptions. This reminds
me of, well, it doesn't matter, but people we.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Know, eighty seven months doesn't sound as much fun as
seven years, though.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Sounds like a lot. It does, though, sounds like a lot.
He said he was totally resigned when The New York
Times asked him about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It, Well, what else are you going then?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah. Following a year of flamboyant denials, obfuscation, and expulsion
from the House, Santos, just thirty six years old, acknowledged
he lied to Congress, fraudulently collected unemployment benefits, and duped
campaign donors out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Don't

(01:14:28):
take rich people's money and think you're going to get
away with it. Sway any of this or no, that's right.
Prosecutors for the Eastern District of New York caught on
Judge Joanna Cybert to impose the maximum sentence of eighty
seven months behind bars, in keeping with the seriousness of

(01:14:48):
his unparalleled crimes, sent his submitted responsibility for his deceit
as part of a plea deal. In addition to his
prison sin, the expelled house member is obligated to make
restitution to his victims for a total of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Three hundred seventy three thousand, seven hundred forty nine dollars
and ninety seven of those cents.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Let's just scall three seventy three seven fifty mm hm.
Oh my god, yeah, this bitch, Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
What so so. Central to that effort, Santos has cashed
in on his infamy with a cameo account an OnlyFans
Paige Eu and a monetized podcast called Pants on Fire Bitch,
making light of and money on his trail of lies
and duplicity. His guests included Joe Exotic, the Talker case

(01:15:56):
Guess Who's not going to pardon him, although he has
pardoned hundreds of convicted felons since taking office in January,
The Orange Menace said, no sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Action is indicated for Santos. An avowed MAGA loyalist and
fan of the resident, I haven't partitioned him for a pardon.
If the President were to extend one, I'd be humbly
grateful that you would, because he'd be taking a major

(01:16:32):
weight off my back. Honey, he is not concerned with
your back where you're from. In an interview with Perez Hilton,
of all people, that's who's left, Yeah, he said it
would obviously like a pardon.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
And the upside to this whole story, well, another upside
of this whole story is he says that he pledges
to leave the US after his prison release.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Okay, bye girl, bye. I don't know. I don't know
where you're going, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
I don't know who's going to have your ass. But yeah,
that's delicious and juicy because this Faga Jesus curse failed
stunt queen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Yeah, I mean yeah, talk about you invited all this girl,
all of it, all of it, every single bit of it. Yeah,
you ain't never been a credit to any of us. No,
m she probably don't even suck I mean teeth and ship.

(01:17:53):
I bet she don't even do that. Oh my god,
bottom is fine. I guess she's clean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
But oh god, probably painting the children.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
I'm just yeah, wow, wow. She got no respect for
anyone else, so I can't imagine she has any self
respect for real. Yeah, yeah, sloppy, lazyhead whatever. This has

(01:18:25):
been your moment.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Of sad boy people taking pleasure and name yay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
All right, do you have a fifteen minute fave I do?
Would you like to share it? I would?

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Okay, So once again, I am commuting to work and
I'm listening to one of my many playlists that I've compiled,
and this song comes on and it's like this sixties rockabilly,

(01:19:11):
like a song that I don't remember, and I'm jamming
to it and I'm thinking, look at me discovering like
this obscure sixties song. And I went to look it
up and the ship came out in twenty fifteen. This

(01:19:31):
song is called Sting Like a Bee and it's from
UK retro duo The Mighty Scepters.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
And this is good. It is good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
So we're going to go out to the break with
sting like a bee by the mighty sceptors.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Say Michael, sing my dress up on. Lancy goes sing
that moving movement, plaster you by your love, Stay like
another in the world that I will do for I
love it. Stay like me and as a walk right

(01:20:11):
out is your old Also five rags beating, You're sweet
of air, a king like greet.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
You are staying with my ba.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
You are staying with my pay And it's a funny.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Plain and it's a brand jam and suns. Stay like me,
staying like me, staying like me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
And we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
We're back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
That was fun, right. I know why you thought it
was from the sixties, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
It sounded that they did it. They must have like
gotten all the same equipment and the all the same
conditions because like I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Tell its it totally has the vibe. Yep, that's a unsong. Yeah,
all right, we have not eliminated this segment entirely, because
how could we. It's time for the cavalcade of nonsense.

Speaker 6 (01:21:33):
Yeah, So the Trump administration has issued in anti trans healthcare.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Report all lies of course that recommends conversion therapy. You know,
this mirrors what has happened across the pond in the UK.
But the CAST report, yeah, it's just as ridiculous. It's
a collection of discredited junk science. And that is putting

(01:22:10):
it respectfully, right. It's a four hundred page review of
transgender youth healthcare that described current best practices endorsed by
all mainstream medical organizations and professionals as unproven. And this

(01:22:33):
is how they reach into the limited minds that they
reach into with words like un proven, because the rest
of us understand how science works. But yeah, the report
advocates for behavioral therapy in place of gender affirming medical
care for the use with gender dysphoria, or what critics

(01:22:56):
call conversion therapy, because that's what it is, because it
is this is just I can't I won't read it.
I won't read the quote. Okay, but the jackass currently
in charge, who is a complete jackass, said we must
follow the gold standard of science, not activist agendas. You first, baby, right,

(01:23:19):
because you're dying, right, you're lying, you're not including science.
You might have doctor in front of your name, but whoever,
this bastard is no, no, Jay, what the fuck? No,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, don't talk about gold standards because
you've just denied the gold standard for a political agenda.

(01:23:41):
You all are the activists, not us. We're trying to survive, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
And if you pick too hard at their gold standard,
you'll realize it's chocolate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Yeah. This report issued by Robert F. Kennedy, JUS Department
of Belt and Human Services, questions standards for the Treatment
of Transgender Youth issued by WPATH. That organization in nearly
every major American medical association, every credible American medical association,

(01:24:22):
and leading world health authority have endorsed gender affirming care
as evidenced based, save and life saving.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Yeah, they're doing this while they pick your pockets. But
keep paying attention to this. Yeah, there's those words like
chemical and surgical mutilation that I'm just not gonna I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I'm not, I'm not because they don't know what they're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Unlike the CAST Report, which took four years to come
up with their lives, this one was completed in ninet. Yeah.
Well you had someone to follow, You had bullshit to
follow after that part. Yeah, so you just had to
rearrange some of the words and they probably had chat

(01:25:13):
GPT do it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
It's a collection of discredited junk science. There's really nothing
more to say about this. It is politically motivated. It
is bullshit in its entirety, and I just beg people
to take it for what it is. Yeah, that's it.
I don't want to spend too much time on this,

(01:25:37):
but the Supreme Court has now allowed the military to
start kicking trans people out. This is unprecedented, it's bullshit.
It does not follow the Constitution, and it doesn't follow precedent. So,
you know, this could be very chilling in terms of
our future with this particular Supreme Court. It was a
six to three decision, as we would expect, six hacks,

(01:26:02):
you know, and the three actual jurists. You know it,
it pushes it back, but most of us are not
holding out a lot of hope that this will be overturned.
They're basically saying trans people are a problem in the military,
and actually, if they put this into practice, they're going

(01:26:22):
to find out exactly the opposite is true. They're going
to remove a bunch of experts and very very hard
working military personnel based on discrimination and nothing else. And
if that's the America you want to live in, Okay, yeah,
I guess that's where we are. But you know, it's
the chilling part of all of this is that our

(01:26:44):
Supreme Court abandoned their duty to the United States Constitution
in this decision. That is that is chilling. Yeah, that's
all I have to say about that. Good yea, that
needs to be said.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
So this is an exercise in irony right here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
This is you know, the absolute chickens coming home to
roost in fuck around and find out, well, there were
no men in women's restrooms when people were paying in peace.
And yet one another story, this is not the only
one from this particular time period, it's just the one

(01:27:24):
you posted. Two sis women were kicked out of a
Boston hotel bathroom after one was ordered to prove her
sex and that male security guards are having no compunction, no,
you know, no problem whatsoever to intruding and pushing their
way into the ladies room and opening or pushing open

(01:27:47):
stalls to say, show me your pussy. And that is
what you all have wrought. That is what you have invited.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
What they claimed would have happened by the trans women.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Trans women are not doing any of this shit. We're
just trying to peek. We were never your problem, but
you keep emboldening the men who have not just come
after you, but us, sweetheart, and now they're very happy
to pretend to protect us, and they want to see
your vagina show it. I guess if you ever thought

(01:28:22):
this was a good idea, I guess spread them. I
don't know what to say other than yeah, this was
we have been screaming. Yeah, this is what's going to happen. Yeah,
this is what's going to happen because too many butch
women are going to be targeted. Yeah. Yeah, but you

(01:28:46):
know it's about protecting women. It was never about we
were already protecting our sisters, thank you. Ain. None of us,
not one of us, caused a problem. Y'all have created something,
manufactured it, blown it out of proportion, and this is
where we land with genital inspections. Yeah, and SI women

(01:29:11):
being cast out of the ladies room. Happy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
When you make up these scenarios out of whole cloth
and based on nothing real, surprise, surprise, you end up
with nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Right, Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Like I said earlier today, the irony of this situation
could choke a bear.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Yep, we've been peeing where we need to be forever
and we bother nobody because we just want to keep
it bushing. And that's all that's ever happened, and y'all
know it. So why are you standing by letting this happen? Why?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
I almost want to start a new segment based on
this kind of story and call it is your monkey
as happy now chow.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
That doesn't sound like a fun one to do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
I agree, I said almost, And I put this here
to close with because it's just laughable.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
But yeah, I can't even read the headline out loud.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Right wing ahead right wing leader says white men are
the most persecuted group in America.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
They have certainly painted themselves as such. Uh huh, yep ye,
including the ones who are now walking into women's rooms. Yeah,
so trying to do general inspections persecuted it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
They are the party with a trifacta over all three
branches of the federal government continues to claim it is
a victim of anti conservative discrimination, and in line with
that messaging, a right wing Christian leader has declared white
men are the most the most persecuted group in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
I mean, if this is fun for you to say out,
but this is the bullshit that yeah, I choke on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Yeah, not black people, not women, No, not trans people, no,
not black trans women, no white men.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Yes, poor guys, poor little fellas. Yea, even though they
are in control of everything. Yeah, and the world is
once again built for them, they're still not getting laid
So it's still all of our fault. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
The claim was made by some chick who I'm not
going to name. She's the founder of some group I'm
not going to name, Okay, because fuck them. But they said, quote,
the hardest person to be right now in America is
white males. You're at the bottom of the food chain
in the social justice world.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Oh my god. Oh yeah, poor guys. What will they do?
Oh wait a minute, control everything?

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Right? But wait, I gotta get to this part. So nonsense, nonsense, bullshit, bullshit.
We shouldn't discriminate against anybody. And what President Trump is
saying is, you know, we should all treat each other
with respect and love. We should have an equal playing
field across and some of these kinds of woke and
progressive agendas. It was the EI, but go ahead, actually

(01:32:18):
hurting America. It's dividing us, it's hurting our relationships in
our communities. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
When you all knew your place, we were all much happier.
We were all much happier. Right, go ahead, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Let's go back to just seeing each other the way
the founders decided we should see each other as equal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Don't that make you three fifth?

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Well I'm half black, So what's half a three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Fifes six tenths? So that's three? Oh wait, that's wait,
what is six tenths?

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Yeah? Zero point three?

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
So you're still a third. Oh that's us, you're a third. Okay, yeah,
let's do that. Chaw. Oh, this sounds like somewhat the
ocelot chic. Who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Oh, it's ironic that you brought her up. Her her
name is Bunny something something.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Oh fuck, okay, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Bunny with an aye, of course it is. I bet
you there's a herd over that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
That's a cute way to spell bunny because white people.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
I'm going to take a sip from my white tears
because that just seems perfect for that story.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is what I have
never seen a group of people in charge of every
branch of government be so fucking miserable and claiming victimhood,
like these motherfuckers ain't never seen it? What the hell?
Y'all can be in charge of everything, but you're still
not getting late right mm hm, your poor babies. You

(01:34:03):
still can't be authentic, you still can't have a life
worth living. So you're still mad. Uh huh, you're going
to die mad, all of you. I can't wait. Can
we please pop the culture and cleanse our palates? Can
we please just do that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I'm definitely down for let's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Move in, let's just go, let's just continue, because we
said we were not going to focus here and here
we are and I'm done that there is I'm done.
I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. White men are poor babies.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
All right? So real quick? The uh, the Tony Awards
nominees list came out a little bit ago, and uh,
there's some cool stuff on the like Camille is up
for choreography, good for for Gypsy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Gypsy was fabulous exactly, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
And because of Gypsy, Audrey McDonald is now now the
most Tony nominated performer.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
As she should be. No notes, right, no notes, Mama Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
So good so best performance by an Actress in a
feature role in a musical joy Woods for Gypsy. There
were other people, but I don't care and stuff and
stuff and things and wonderful. Basically, I just wanted to
mention so that we could like squeek over Algie McDonald
and Camille Brown and Camille Brown well good because.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Yeah, well A we saw it and B we knew
it would be fabulous and it was. It was everything
everything I thought it could be. Yeah, it was amazing, amazing,
she has just settled into that role. It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
It was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I'm glad I witnessed it. It's one of those theater
moments that I can just say, I'm I am. I
am thrilled to have been able to witness exactly because.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
I had to like pull myself out of my squea
mode because I was very much like old McDonald's right
there and she's performing and she's singing and she's talking,
and I'm like you and we're breathing the same. Ann
Oh my god, ah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
You said that out loud. Several roads heard you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Oh that wasn't just in my head.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Okay, then we all went on sit down. They are
not all with us. Yeah, that came out after mouth. Actually,
I wasn't wrong though, No, you were not wrong. We
were in the presence of greatness for sure, and we

(01:36:52):
had fabulous seats because yeah, Kathy, thank you, thank you. Yeah, No,
it was amazing and good. If it was asn't nominated,
I would be shocked, for real, though, I would be
shocked for real though. Speaking of which, Harper and Will,
which was snubbed in large part by the mainstream bullshit,

(01:37:15):
has won a Peabody Award. Yes, law, and according to Kathy,
who has two, that's more important. So I'm gonna go
with that's more important.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Yeah, in terms of the culture, and in terms of
a contribution to the culture, Yes, a Peabody Award is
not nothing by any stretch. And Will and Harper won one,
and good because it's brilliant. It's an important piece. Yes, yeah,
I love it in this world at this point. To

(01:37:48):
make that and keep it as as they did a
gorgeous job. Yeah they did, And I'm glad that there
is actual recognition because it deserved. Agreed that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Speaking of beautiful things, the Matt Gala was last week,
and what about I cried so many times? That was so.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Beautiful, said, I saw the pictures after.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I was watching the live stream, and first of all,
it opened with this wonderful choir of all young black
men and they were singing, Ain't no Mountain high Enough?
And that was the first time I started crying because
like these young black men, they were all wearing the
same thing, but all the hairstyles were different on everybody's
like black hair on display and the fashion child. The

(01:38:44):
theme this year was Black Black Dandyism. The official title
of the theme super Fine Tailoring, Black Style. Okay, so
what I heard that that was the theme. I first
thought was, oh, lord, what are the white people going
to do?

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
I know you said, that's what you said before it
came on. You were like, I gotta watch it for that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Yeah, because I know the black folks are going to
show up and show out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
But how they going to deal with this as a theme?

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Was your thing? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
What okay?

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Did they do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
So what I noticed, for the most part, the white
people they leaned into the tailoring aspect of it, so
they yeah, nothing was really like some Actually a couple
of people did like do like subliminal nods to black
designers in black fashion, but for the most part, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Just you know, how do we keep ourselves safe and relevant? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Like not this up right exquisitely tailored things like I
didn't like everything, but I didn't hate much the non
black folks, like the Latine folks like Bad Bunny, for instance,
or the Asian folks they leave into like the equivalent
in their own cultures. And there was some beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Things way to go, but ch'all Diana Diana ross I
eighteen feet of train Yes, with her children and grandchildren's
names embroidered into the pattern of the white yes train bitch.
It was something to see. Oh, I literally that is

(01:40:32):
why she is, miss ross Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
I was texted back and forth with with my bestie Lisa,
and I called her just so I can go. That's
all I wanted buy. It was so good. Coleman Domingo
looking like the choir director of the most expensive black
choir ever with this blue robe and the carpet was

(01:41:00):
blue this year, and he mentioned something about it was
a reference to a journal from an enslaved person who
talked about like in his free moments of like on
going to church on Sunday, getting dressed in his best blue.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
OK.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
So that's why blue played a big part in this year.
It was little things like that that I thought were
very impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
But I love it. Yeah, and I imagine it pissed
off conservatives, so evenus.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I hope it did. My favorite look of the entire
night was Janelle Money.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
It was interesting. I loved quite interesting. Not my favorite,
but I get it. So she had it was a
drag queen reveal they had.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
It was in the best way though. They had this
art this like geometric like squared all encasement with on
the front in an Art Deco style. Was was was printed, well,

(01:42:09):
it was better than a robe though, but it was
printed the design of a suit and then that opened
up to reveal the actual suit right, which was mirrored.
The pattern was mirrored from what was on the outside.
And Janelle had this monocle and it wasn't until the

(01:42:32):
next day when they showed a close up. The monocle
had a clock face on it and the clock was
right egg, Oh my god, it's brilliant. And then apparently
for the after party, like the suit came off and
then it was like a variation of that but with
the boobies out. It was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
The met Gala happened, Yeah, it was beautiful. I heard you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I love the fashion. It was a drag queen whatever, No,
the drag queen real was. Now that's what that The
one dude who showed up in a motorcycle jacket and
like they yanked the sides off and now he's wearing
a suit.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
It was a good one. I'm not saying it was
a bad one. I'm just saying we've been doing that
ship for decades. This is true.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
But there was some She.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Had more money than some of us. Some of us
just got to come out of feathers. She had like
shit printed on. Yeah. That it was. Now, it was good.
It was interesting, It was interesting, and Diana Ross was
absolutely showed up as Diana Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Was Diana Ross.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Your favorite of what I saw probably okay, just for
its sheer, over the top ness. It's like it was
a showstopper. It was. And she has reached this place
where I mean we've seen her in recent years. She
still puts on a lovely show. She does and you know,

(01:44:01):
she really does focus on her children and grandchildren in
her life and as that as part of her legacy.
And so this was gorgeous and it was She is
an icon she's a diva, you know, there's no there's
no arguing that. And it was spectacular. It was it
was spectacular. So yeah, I think that was my favorite.

(01:44:25):
What is she's seventy shady yet she's close.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
She's close, eighty one, thank you, she's eighty one years.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Old, thank you? Yeah, eighty one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Yeah, and stopped traffic, like even the paparazzi were screaming,
shell stopper.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
That is miss Ross. I'm sorry, eighty one. No, that
was fabulous, right, Yes, that was my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
I want to do shit like that when I'm like,
I'm going to be eighty one, but I want to
do shit like that, be able to just no what
to do and celebrate my life and my family and
my like. It was totally in line with who she
is and and what she focuses on now and performance.

(01:45:11):
So good on her. Dear God, we need we need
our icons. It's true and she was absolutely she showed
up as one. Yeah, that's yeah. I think that's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
And I love some of the men's fashion, like I
love Questlove had this like chalk chalk stripe suit but
the stripes were individual pearls. I thought that was beautiful.
I was like, Okay, the opulence. I love the opulence
and the artistry and the creativity.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Well, and that's what this is about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yeah, that's why I love all these things. Yeah, like
all the haters are like, oh, we're just worshiping celebrity,
and I'm an artist. I love seeing creative.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
I mean, we are and we've gotta we've got to
hold space for the fact that I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Saying they're wrong, but god damn, can I enjoy something
for five seconds without a hater in my even.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Well, yeah, if we didn't love style, we wouldn't be
like you know right. It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
It was I'm glad. I said it was the first,
well it was the first Matt Gala maybe ever that
I actually gave a shit about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Yes, the first one. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
That's the main thing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
And well done. It was fun to it was fun
to see the pictures. It was fun to, you know,
just look at what was done, wondering what you know,
white people do everyone, you know, they showed up, They
showed up. It was fun to see. It's it's one
of our you know, ridiculous over the top traditions. Say

(01:46:44):
what you will, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
It really really was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Speaking of things that I enjoyed, I took myself when
you're in class on on Saturdays, I assuming all the morning,
well assuming that you know, like this past week there
was actually not rain, so I could actually do some
yard work. But barring that, I take myself to the
movie to go see things that you probably won't see,

(01:47:14):
except I think you will see this one. I went
and saw Sinners, Yes, and I love did it lived
up to the hype and it was wonderful. The biggest
selling point for you would be that Michael B. Jordan
is in it, and there's two of him. He's playing twins.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
What's better than one two twins? And I like the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Way they did them, like him being on stage on
stage on screen twice, like there's the first time we
see him them they're like passing a cigarette back and
forth and like they hug and fight like it's seamless.
Like it took me a good ten minutes into the
movie before I like made peace with the fact that yes,

(01:48:03):
that actually is to Michael B. Jordan's. They didn't find
someone that looked just like him.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I'm sorry, I was just thinking, was there anything I
wouldn't do with that, man, I ain't come up with
nothing yet, but I'm studied a napkin I might done.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
But no, it was a fabulous well done movie. It's
a vampire story. And normally you don't like horror movies,
but I think you would dig that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
I don't like horror. That's see to me, that's a
different place.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Yeah, because like it's not done like as a harror movie.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
I don't like things that are just meant to scare me, right,
I don't like things that are just meant to put
me at you know, disease.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
No, that like True Blood really well done? True at
least two times, if not three.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
This was really well done.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Okay, I mean I I don't think. I think that's fine,
you know, my I don't like. I don't know. I
don't like horror for horror's sake.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
I'm sorry. I'm side eyeing the person who's walking a
running lawnmower passed.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Our way, right, Why not turn that lawnmower off while
you walk out?

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Does it not run while you push it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
I don't know. He does that all the time. We
have this neighbor who pushes running lawnmowers around the corner
on the street while they're running, as if if they
he lets them not run, they'll never run again. Yeah,

(01:49:43):
he just did that whole thing, cross the front, down
the side. There guses, you know, But these are suburban
things to think about. I don't you love having suburban issues?
Isn't it fun? I suppose, because like you know, that's
just fucking cute, It's quaint. It's Mayberry, like the dude

(01:50:08):
who pushes the running one on the street. Like, if
that's the worst we have, I suppose, Yeah, what are
we complaining about?

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Well, anyway, back to the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Windows are still open and air are still clean. There's
a dog barking in the desert. It's also lovely. It's
also you know Mayberry, so Norman Rockwell anyway, yeah, back
to centers. Thank you you liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
I did. Ryan Coogler should just direct everything, Okay, Stellar.
There's one scene that I struggle to talk about without
talking about it because like you have to experience it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
Okay, Well, then you say you shouldn't do any m spoilers, but.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
I will say there's one scene in the juke Joint
that is so beautiful and well done It made me
cry the same way that in Black Panther when all
the Wakandans were gathered for the challenge for the Crown
at the beginning of the movie and all the different
cultures were there represented, and I started crying in the theater, going,
it's so perfect, exact same thing with the scene. Oh

(01:51:17):
my god. And so yeah, I think we're going to
do a date night and I'm going to take you
to see Sinners. I think you will enjoy it. And
I bet when the movie is over, you're going to
cook everything with twice as much garlic as.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
You used to. That's almost impossible. Okay, anything else, No,
that was it. We have exhausted pop culture. We have
the dog is staring at he's letting me like fondle
his polls because he was so fascinated about you talking. Okay,
just sitting here watching you talk and not no, but

(01:51:53):
I'm like fondling his palls, which is new right, and
he's like, yep, I'm watching my daddy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
So yeah, we've we've exhausted pop culture and everyone's deciding
now is the time to turn on everything that makes
a lot of fucking noise.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I know, lawnmowers are starting to go, and you know,
folks are walking and dogs are barking, and I think
maybe it's time for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Yeah, it's been a minute, it has now we have
working equipment, so it shouldn't be long, right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
It should not be another month in a goddamn half.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
We should. We're going to get back to doing this
as like a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Yes, so sorry, y'all. We didn't mean to go away
that long.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
No, but you know, stuff happened. We got married and
entered a fascist regime, and then the computer died, like
should happen, right, So yeah, we'll be back sooner than later.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Yes, but before we go, you know what it's time for.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Yeah, let's do the podcast business.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
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(01:53:27):
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