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In this episode, we talk aboutEl Bobie has the worst theater etiquette.
I mean, really, when's thelast time anyone asked Rob Schneider on his
opinions of gender identity? Yeah,that's what I thought. Blood banks are
trying to appear more accepting of gayblood donations, but aren't. Welcome to

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Full Circle the Podcast, coming toyou from the dining room table at East
Barbary Lane. Welcome to a newepisode of Full Circle the Podcast, a

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weekly visit to our home where wesqueeze a few headlines for our decidedly queer
lens and see what happens. Thisepisode is brought to you by Decanted jug
Wine and a trip to the Mall. I am your host, Charles Tyson
Junior, and I'm your host MarthaMadrigal. Welcome to the Full Circle Table.

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Bye baby, Hello, how areyou? I'm fine. I was
trying to think of something noteworthy,and the fact that we walked around the
mall the other day was noteworthy,right, Like, what do you know
there's still a mall? Right,the fact that we've been in one in
years. We walked around. Therewas a mall to walk around. Yeah,
exactly, there was a malt yeah, because some of them are closed.

(01:32):
But the Cherry Hill mall is stilla thing. Yeah, who knew?
Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I can't remember the last time
I was in a mall. Mhmm. Now you know it's been It's
been a long time for me.The last one was the get the Fashion
District. It's not that you meanthe gallery. Yeah, the gallery.

(01:53):
It will always be the gallery.What you heard, it's yeah, it's
weird that they called about the fashiondistrict, right because it's barely a district
and they ain't much fashion. No, not really. I mean maybe there
will be more, I don't know, but it's the gallery, yep,
pretty much. I think the mostnoteworthy thing is that you're driving to places

(02:17):
now I know well and whining whileyou're doing. I wasn't going to point
out that part, but third timesa charm. Yes, I finally passed
my driving skills knowledge test for theafter the third try. Hey, and

(02:38):
now I have my permit and Ihave been driving accompanied by you for the
past two days. Now, Godhelp you. M I mean it's been
fine. Well, that's good,you know, except when I make you
scream. Screaming is a harsh word. I raised my voice. No you

(03:04):
did scream, did I Well,you stopped in the middle of an intersection
with oncoming traffic, so no,I get it. Felt worthy of volume
and get you to pull over.I'm not blaming you. Accelerate the car
out of the intersection and go pullover seemed warranted at the time, but

(03:25):
I mean it's a it's a process. It takes a minute. I keep
telling you. Look around at allthe people who drive right. Yeah,
he was smart, you know,like you can do this, you really
can. You have a point.Yeah, there are there are vehicles with
Trump stickers that actually get where they'regoing, right, So so all is

(03:50):
not lost. I can do this. You can do this. Yeah,
you just thought you were always goingto live in a city. That was
it. I said that for years. I said, anywhere I live in
the world is going to be amajor city with public transportation, and I'm
not going to ever have to learnhow to drive because I'm gonna divot.
Did it shows what I know?Like most of this was built for cars.

(04:15):
I mean it was that there wouldn'tbe suburbs if there weren't cars,
probably or not like they exist,right, you know, because and that.
That's what I mean. If youlook around, like we live in
a sort of walkable part of townto go walk the dog and stuff,
but you know, there's not thatmany things we can walk to, not

(04:35):
really, you know what I mean. And that's how this is all laid
out. There are places that Ican walk to, but that does not
mean that it is a you know, walkable route. Also true, Yeah,
also true, because I was goingto say, we can't walk to
a coffee shop, but we technicallycan walk to the you know, Starbucks

(04:56):
inside the Target, but it's notyou know, you gotta across a fairly
major road to get there. Right, They're nice enough to put a traffic
light and a crosswalk. True,we have a well they're dunk and Donuts,
but that's not the same. No, it is not. They even
have a table and a couple ofchairs, so right, And our little
local convenience store, I mean theysell coffee. But no, I'm just

(05:19):
saying it's not walkable town. Andlike, you know, it's not Philly.
It is not Philly. I don'tknow what I was thinking, much
like you know how Pittman has alittle downtown. But still I don't think
it's sustainable to live there without acar. But like, they have a
little downtown. They have a bookstoreand coffee shop and dad and restaurants,

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and we don't have that, right, we drive to that. It's very
close to here, right, Iwas gonna say, we have places that
we can walk around that are cuteand quaint that you have to drive to
get there, But we have todrive to get to the walking round.
That's just how this was all laidout. I mean, you know my
parents always had two cars in theseventies, eighties, nineties that my parents

(06:02):
always had two cars from the timeI was very small, because they drive
to work, right, you know, in different directions. We just had
the one. But what did Ialso have the thirty four Trilley and the
G bus and the d bus LAnd your mother could take public ticket to
work right, right and she workedpart time, right, Yeah, but

(06:26):
that and that was possible. Youknow, it's very difficult to live out
here in New Jersey. I mean, there are places in New Jersey that
are more like Collingswood is right thereon the Patco line. They have a
little walkable downtown. Plus you canwalk to the train station and be in
Philadelphia in moments. But we don'tlive in Collingswood, Nope. So yeah,

(06:50):
it's the thing. You still gotto drive to the train, right,
We have to drive to a trainand the closest bus is like two
miles ave. Yeah, that's noteven close enough or convenient enough to even
be considered as an option. Yeah, it's just not you know, we're
not public transportation conducive at the moment. Right. It is ironic that there

(07:15):
is a train station near here,and there used to be a commuter train
way back when, predating me.And you know, there there's lots of
folks who would like to put thatback in place, which would you be
really close to here, But there'slots of folks that don't want it for
reasons that are not racism. Whatare those parking? Is the last one

(07:42):
I heard? It's a parking issue. It's the last one. You were
something, the first one you heardI heard, it's it's I'm pretty sure
it's racism, right, I'm prettysure it does. We don't want folks
get no ideas exactly or something.I don't know, but yeah, so
it's you know, you got tohave a car here. You promised me

(08:05):
when we when we decided to movehere that you would drive. I did
even let you help pick out thecar. I know how you should like
that? Really should How often doI really let you pick things out?
Like? Really it's fair? ButI did, I really did. I
let you weigh in so that youwould want to drive Ruby and I and

(08:28):
yeah, you know that was supposedto be incentive back in March of two
thousand twenty one. I'm glad we'regetting around to it in twenty three.
It was April of twenty twenty one, because we got the car on four
twenty did we? Yes, wedid. Interesting, I knew it was
before May. I thought it wasMarch. I don't know, but yeah,

(08:52):
we have the car and and andyou know, if things go as
are possible, you'll have a driver'slicense before the end of twenty twenty three.
Can you stand it? Yes?I know you can stand it.
Yes, Yes, I would loveto send you on Errand's right. I'm

(09:16):
dreaming them up in my head asI speak. I'm already thinking of like
you know, I was saying today, how I used to go to the
movies all the time and you did. Yeah, and now I can go
whenever I feel like well, notnow, but soon I'll be able to
go whenever I feel like it tosee whatever I want, including things that

(09:37):
you would never want to see.Well, right, and we have a
really nice theater near us. There'sa few of them around here, but
you know that one's got recliners exactly. And you drove us there today,
so it is completely and it's possibleto get their own back roads. You
don't have to take the highway,although the highways quicker, but you don't
have to use that. I'll getthere, I'll work. I'm working my

(09:58):
way up to the highway. Imean, you know, the highway near
US is very drivable and really connectsa lot of things pretty quickly. But
the way we took today is kindof the way I used to get there,
more or less before that road wasopen, like you know, because
it wasn't always there. But anyway, you drove us to go see Barbie

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again. Yes, we saw abar before the second time with Kathy.
We met her there one one lasttime while it's still in the theaters.
I I this was our second time, and I was desperate to see it
twice. Yes, I think shehas seen it four or five. Now
I think this would be the fifthtime. Probably it's worth it. I
agree, I had missed some things. I was all about the details this

(10:45):
time. Yeah. It affirmed thatyeah, it really is, you know,
really is well done in America.Ferrera needs to be nominated for an
Oscar just for that one, thatone speech, and yeah and the subsequent
one little yeah, yes though,yes, just for that one speech.
It's it's a good one. AndI've decided that I really want Ken's faux

(11:09):
mink coat. I before I wasjust like, oh, that's a nice
coat. And then I happened tocatch the lining this time, and I
was like, oh, I hada print lining red and blue. I
was like, that's sexy, andI want that coat now. So we've
been doing stuff besides the movie.The movie was today. Yesterday you ran

(11:33):
lights at the William Way LGBTQ CommunityCenter, It's true, which is the
home of my beloved transway. Butthey actually they're building was host to Men
on Tap, Yes, an allqueer uh tap yeah, and and this

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was this is their thirtieth anniversary.Yeah. So usually they're kind of an
add on to like voices of Prideconcerts or something like that, right,
are a bigger showcase. I thinkyou're right, But this was their first
time doing their own show and theydid a great job. They really did.
It was cute as part of thefringe, so it's part of the

(12:20):
Fringe Festival at the William Way CommunityCenter. So many things come up out
of the fringe that are that arefun and interesting and different, and this
was playful and joyful. And ourfriend Karen Karen is actually their choreographer and
has been for twenty nine of thosethirty years. She's a student. Yeah,

(12:41):
back at you are. It's whenshe started because she's your age,
isn't she just roughly, I thinky'all are fairly contemporaries. And I think
she graduated when I was just startingthe dance department, so we're near the
same. So like your fourth yearin college. Third thank you forgive me,

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so like your third year in college, right, right, you two
are contemporaries. Anyway, she wasthere. It was good to see her
again. I haven't seen her sincepre pandemic. Yeah, and she and
Rochelle danced and she danced with theen Rochelle Haynes, who is another member

(13:33):
of Tap Team two see in Kareem, which is how I know them right,
and I'm tap team two is RobertBurton right? Yes? Yes,
okay, yes, and I'm followingalone. They still fear is? They
are? I forgot how fear?I love tap tap is. I always
wanted to be able to tap dance. I still do. I mean,

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it's not too late. We haveall these tappers around us. I wish
one of them would teach me.You know how many people are surprised that
I don't know how to tap,considering all the tappers that I know.
It's true though, if you thinkabout it, it's like you can teach
almost anything. But yeah, Inever learned how to tap. That was
like part of my artist statement.People would say, what kind of dance
do you do? And I justgo, I don't tap, right,

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because it's the one thing. Andyeah, I love tap, I really
do. I love the art form. I think it's fun. Clearly it's
something you can do into old age, and I'd like to be a tap
dancer in my dotage. Yeah.Yeah, well, giant blonde tranny tapper.
That could be the name of theshow now I know now, But

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well, like Jermaine Ingram, whois one of the premier tap dancers in
the city. She's also a secondgeneration silver Bell. She didn't start tapping
until she was around my age.Wow, so staring at fifty, right,
I mean she was in her fourties. Yeah, so I probably than

(15:09):
I know now. But still thatwas a little mean, because yeah,
sorry, but I'm staring at sixty, so fuck off, you know.
But yeah, she's well, I'mas close to sixty. I'm less close
to sixty than you were to fifty. Right, actually, yeah, by
four months, right and whatever?Right, but that's the year we should

(15:33):
throw a big birthday party. I'mdown, like somewhere in the middle between
August and December. I'm down likein October because Chucky will turn sixty in
October. Maybe we can throw himin there too, that'd be fun.
I'm totally down. Yeah, abig old bash. Yeah, and let
me have two years to save money, right to have a bash, because

(16:00):
it seems stupid to have too.And we gotta throw Kathleen And they're somewhere
too, because she never got tohave her bash. She never did not
this time she has had a bash. She had a big bash for fifty,
a very big bash. And youknow, but the bash that she
most recently was trying to play andgot killed by COVID. It kind of
did well, and she hasn't reallybrought it up either, so we'll have

(16:22):
to say, well to do something. Yeah, yeah, well to anyway,
way off track, we saw himin on tap. We also went
on Wednesday evening to see Gunner Montana'sBlack Woods. Yes we did. Now,
that was worth staying up past mybedtime. Yeah, Gunner Montana did

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it again. Man pushes more envelopesthan the Pope stopic. It was wonderful.
It was pretty dark. It isdark, you know, which I
think he gave us fair warning inthe interview. Oh yeah, that he
did with you. There are depictionsof domestic violence, choreographed domestic violence,

(17:10):
but but pretty graphic depictions, youknow, and that those disclaimers are posted
there and I'm giving one now.Yes, you know, if it is
a little disturbing, it is.It could be very disturbing, you know,
if that's been your lived experience.But there is a payoff. Yeah,

(17:32):
it goes somewhere. It is partof the story. It's kind of
an integral part of the story.You know. I don't I didn't feel
like it was gratuitous at all.It was not, but you know,
I could see where for some folksthat would be hard to watch. Ye
that said, it was amazing it, you know, I said, and
I said it to Gunner on Wednesday. You you really do own the word

(17:56):
immersive, because I've seen so manyfolks use the word and not give me
an immersive experience. So this isthe second show Gunners I've been at,
and they were both immersive experiences,starting from the fucking cave that you offer
right just as soon as you getso the Latvian Society in Philadelphia, you

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do have to be able to climba staircase that is on the second floor
unfortunately not accessible, you know,but once you get to the top of
those steps, the experience begins.And that's the cave that Gunnar built,
the kind of the candle, thatcave that you you have to, you
know, have give meanders into thetheater and as we're walking through it,

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I literally was like, well,damn, Gunner, he did that well.
And I feel like Gunnar use youknow, really does and this is
part of why it's immersive. Hereally considers all of the senses. He
considers you know, maybe not taste, but but but your sense of smell,
you know, and the visuals andyou know this it's it's a lot

(19:11):
of it is so tactle like youknow, just getting there, that's what
I mean, like the cave andthe nobody touches you. But it's just
incredible. It's just incredible. Andthen you're you're I was mesmerized. Yeah,
gonna assembles amazing dancers in this case, uh, ninety eight percent of

(19:33):
the cast is our women, youknow, very strong, very athletic,
very you know, great women someof them we know, and just wow.
And it was a celebration of ofof sisterhood, you know. In
the end, it was really acelebration of women, not so the men.
Nope, not so the men.Yeah, Like you know, it's

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basically about a coven of w andyeah, and woe be unto the men
who fuck around and find out withthe women, right right, And that's
what I mean. That's the comeup. And some of it all is
there, it starts there. It'syeah, it's good, it's really good.

(20:18):
Yes, go see it. There'sI think he said something like forty
shows forty shows up and through concludingHalloween. Yes, also part of the
French festival. Yes, yeah,just you know, we were invited to
go back a second time, andI think I think we may. Yeah,
because you can sit on and sitsomewhere different, right, you can

(20:40):
sit on three of the four sidesof the space and see something different.
Right, So we sat on theright side as you walk right. But
Gunners, Gunner's partner said, youknow, next time, I want to
put you right here and see whatyou think of rights, which is like
center and up. Yeah. Yeah, so I want to do that.

(21:00):
I really think I do. It'sit's one of those things that are worth
experiencing a second time. Yeah,we're gonna put ticket information in the notes
to this episode, because if you'reavailable to go see it, you should
definitely go see it because it's there. You will not experience anything else like
it. Yeah, and you know, and Gunner's entire operation is very queer.

(21:23):
Although this this this not perhaps somuch as as bath House, for
instance, but just good storytelling andinteresting. And I loved where it went.
And definitely the last bands, I'lllove it, right, they're gonna
love it for sure. I lovedit. I thought it was just really

(21:47):
good you loved it, so againI recommend that is My only note is
know that that is part of this. It is right, but interesting where
kind of likes to envelopes. Hedoes what do you do with Jesus?
He did something with Jesus. Ohat Easter. He he upsets some folks.

(22:07):
He did a version of his lifesize barbicane thing as Jesus as Jesus.
Yeah, complete with like Kendall Jesus. Basically Yeah, there was like
a cat of nine tails on thewall next to like a dildo and yeah,
he's yeah, he's he's got avery creative mind. Yes he does

(22:30):
that I enjoy. And he's acrafty queens. We can make whatever.
Crafty queen, Yes he is.You know that was the one I know.
He was one of those one ofthose children who asked for a glue
gun when when he was like sixseven, Just give me a glue gun
and a case of galu sticks.I have work to do. It's create.

(22:55):
Where's the cat right where you lefthim? Well, on that note,
there is good news. There is. I'm happy to talk about good
news. There's such a caval kidas well. But let's do good news.
Let's talk about good things. Solast week there was a World Suicide

(23:21):
Prevention Day and a bunch of LGBTQplus groups did their part to raise awareness
for the issue and the cause.And actually September tenth marks World so side
Prevention da. Yes, you know. According to the Human Rights Campaigns twenty
twenty three Youth Survey report, morethan half fifty five percent of LGBTQ youth

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and sixty percent of transgender and genderexpansive youth screened positive for depression and two
thirds of LGBTQ plus youth about sixtythree and a half percent and transgender and
gender expansive youth screen positive for anxiety. So it is a definite yeah among
transit eight, it's a definite issuewithin our community. Support from family drastically

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reduces depression or suicide ideation, affirmingrelationships in spaces like schools can help lower
rates of young people attempting suicide.Yeah. Participating in school sports can have
positive effects LGBTQ or not. Ofcourse, trans participating sports need to be

(24:36):
playing to match their own gender.I don't know why we gender sports among
little kids, right, you know, it's a good question. I don't
know why were gender sports at all. But yeah, I'm not too entirely
sure all we gender sports as adults, especially certain sports like chess. Yeah,
that's a that's a good question.That is a good question. So

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why is this some good news?I mean, we are in a total
state of emergency and a lot offolks got together and really did some work
this year. Is that why we'regood newsing this? Yes, the prevention
part of it and the awareness partof it. Great. Yeah, So
HRC created a resource list and weshould reprint that in the notes we're reading

(25:26):
out of the Advocate. But youknow, organizations like trans Lifeline, the
LGBT National Youth talk Line, Thriveand others. So yeah, and of
course nine eighty and the Trevor Project. As always, you know, I
this is something I give to allof my trans clients, especially the young

(25:47):
folks as we work together. Asyou know, are these phone numbers and
these resources, so they're important.So we will do that part and reprint
that list, just to bring itback to the top of the page.
And as always, any of ourepisodes, if you look check the notes,
that information is there at least forthe TRAV Project. Oh yeah,

(26:10):
the TRAV Project lives under the resourcestab on our link tree, link tree
slash full circle the pod. It'simportant. It is important. So I
just picked up the story today actuallyat a PGM, just the Philadelphia Gay
News. A trans inclusive fertility clinicis opening in Pittsburgh. Yeah. The

(26:33):
fertility clinic is inclusive a queer andtransgender people. It's scheduled to open next
year. The facility, which isa partnership between the Alleghany Reproductive Health Center
and Mate Fertility MTE, will offersperm and egg donation, surrogate services,
in vitro fertilization, and hormone therapy. The goal is to be up and

(26:56):
running by the spring of twenty twentyfour. Nice. Yeah, yeah,
this is kind of this is reallycool, you know, for a lot
of our clients. So they spokewith doctor Sheila Ramgopel, who is in
obgyn has been serving our community andproviding gender firm and Carrison's twenty fifteen.

(27:22):
They serve western and central Pennsylvania aswell as parts of Ohio and West Virginia,
quoted as saying, for a lotof our clients, they've had massive
difficulty to access these services, bothfrom an affordability perspective, but also from
a safety perspective, even the basicsgoing into a place where they feel safe
and feel like they're in an inclusivecommunity because of lots of providers don't reflect

(27:48):
those communities. A lot of theservices are actually very tailored for let's say,
affluent cys, white women, andheterosexual couples. For the non binary
and trance community, there's a manas gap in terms of all of us
accessing care for fertility services. Fortrans and non binary individuals and couples who

(28:08):
need fertility care in the Pittsburgh area, the new clinic will fill a substantial
need. The goal is to offerservices at one third to one half of
the cost of those at other fertilitycenters work. Yeah, our goal is
to make this extremely accessible for people, no matter where they're coming from and

(28:30):
what your financial picture is. Weknow when we center the folks that aren't
able to access these services, everyonethen gets the best care. I love
this, Yeah, yeah, Ilove this. You know, I think
we've talked about it here before.We've certainly talked about it with our friends
who do provide you know, LGBTQplus affirming healthcare. You know, it's

(28:56):
so important for men and non binaryfolk to have access to respectful kynecological carets.
It's imperative. And you know thesame goes for trans women who need
to have a prostate exam. Youknow, we respectful care is important.
Care where we can talk about ourselvesand our lives in a respectful way and

(29:19):
get good care. Couldn't be morecritically important. Agreed, it should be
the model for all healthcare and we'dall actually be happier and better off.
But you know there's another soapbox.So Robin Roberts married her girlfriend Amber Lane.
They did. They were together foreighteen years, and they announced the

(29:44):
news on the Instagram account that theyrun for their dog, little man Lucas.
Wow, my mommies are married.Married, Yes, married, and
on the post reads with their dogwearing a bow tie. That is such
a fucking lesbian thing to do.Kind of. Also from her own account,

(30:06):
Roberts showed a picture of the twoin their dresses while holding hands an
intimate, magical wedding ceremony in ourbackyard, followed by a joyous reception.
Oh the dancing. We're immediately gratefulto all for making it a day and
a night to remember. Honeymoon,here we come. Hell yeah, Robbins

(30:27):
is the host of Good Morning America. Of course, Madesca Haggertay was there,
wrote huge congratulations to you beautiful souls. I don't know why that's news
here, but it is. Andshe's Hungarian, so I read it because
anything that she says, who doesis amazing. Well it matters. I

(30:48):
was taught that, you know,pay attention to the Hungarian. I'm paying
attention to what the Hungarians are doingover there and Hungary and I'm not happy,
but well, yeah, we alwaysthat's why we love the Gabor sisters,
right, they were Hungarian. Ijust love Modushargade because she's awesome.
She's awesome. Yeah, she's amazingand I love it. And her father,
Mickey Argot, was in fact Hungarianand her mother famously was Jane Mansel.

(31:14):
Oh that's right. I always forgetthat part. But she looks so
much like her mother, she reallydoes. But yes, Hungarian. So
anyway, not the news here,not the news here at all. Beautiful
wedding photos. Good for them.I'm good for them for being so public

(31:34):
about it. We need we needaffirmative, positive news stories as often as
we can possibly get them. Yeah, what else do we have? This
was an interesting story. So Lyftnow lets women and non binary writers request
their driver's gender. Okay, sothe service is called Women plus Connect and

(32:00):
it's going to be rolling out theupcoming months. Okay, So basically,
the Lift said that it was ahighly requested feature in a blog post,
which I'm sure it was, andit allows women and non binary people to
quote feel that much more confident inusing Lift and also hopefully encourage more women

(32:22):
to sign up to be drivers toaccess its flexible earning opportunities rolling out in
the coming months. Riders can turnon the option in the Lift app.
However, the company warns that it'snot a guarantee they'll be matched with a
woman or non binary person if oneof those people aren't nearby. Both the

(32:44):
riders and drivers will need to optinto the feature for it to work,
and writers must choose a gender forit to work. So it's imperfect.
From the guidea well, there isn'tlife. Although women and compass nearly half
of its riders, Lifts said thatjust twenty three percent of its drivers are

(33:05):
women. The feature was also builtwith the assistance from outside organizations, including
HRC on the National Association of WomenLaw Enforcement Executives. Lyft and Uber have
been under scrutiny for years about riderssafety, especially with sexual assault incidents.
Lyfts said in twenty twenty one itreceived four thousand, one hundred and fifty

(33:29):
eight reports of sexual assault between twentyseventeen and twenty nineteen. That is not
okay. Lyfts said the vast majorityof trips ninety nine percent had no reported
safety and sidens for the time periodincluded in the report. Okay, we're
thousands, not nothing. No,it is not. Last year, Lyft

(33:50):
agreed to a twenty five million dollarssettlement with shareholders pertaining to statements and disclosures
about its business, including specifically aroundassault related incidents, ahead of going public
in twenty nineteen. In March oftwenty twenty one, uper end Left announced
they would share the names of driverswho were deactivated over the most severe safety
incidents, including sexual assaults, whichrained from non consensual kissing of a non

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sexual body part to rape. Yeah. The information sharing is being managed by
a third party consumer reporting agency Higherright. So yeah, it's problematic,
you know, calling there have beenissues, so I could see why this

(34:37):
is a benefit, doesn't mean you'regoing to find somebody available. Doesn't mean
more women are going to drive forLift. But there was always a good
mix in Philadelphia of humans. Imean, I've got to add a lot
of women drivers without I've got afew specify, Yeah, not as many
as men that had. But mything is, like my mind went to,

(35:01):
what if you specify when you lookfor your ride that you're looking for
a woman or a woman identified driverand there isn't one available, right,
Like do the other drivers know thatthat's what you requested? Because like I
can just picture some dude being like, oh, she didn't want me,

(35:22):
but this is what she got,and then that's what you're carrying into the
ride. Like I don't know,I'm up, I don't know. That's
a question. I would doubt that. I hope not, Yeah, because
it's saying it kind of is betweenthe drivers who opt in and the patrons
who opt into this program, right, So you might just get so if

(35:45):
a dude driving for Lift isn't evenin the program, I don't think he's
going to see that information. That'swhere I'm going, right, So it
probably would just be like you geta notification. There's no one with your
specifications nearby, right, these arewho is who are available? Probably Okay,
well that's something I guess. Yeah, and then you have the option
of whether or not to continue gettingthe ride. Okay, m it makes

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me feel a little better. Yeah, I mean it's it's say something right,
right, like we're scraping for goodness, but it's just something. So
this was interesting. In The Advocate, Nashville has elected Tennessee's first transgender lawmaker,
Olivia Hill. Ye with With herelection and others, the Nashville,

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Davidson County and governing body now hasa female majority. That's cool. Yeah.
Olivia Hill has made history as thefirst transgender person elected to a public
office in the entire state of Tennessee, and she is now part of a
female majority on the Metropolitan Council ofNashville and Davidson County. She's one of

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five women elected to at large seatson the council, four one in a
runoff election Thursday, while the otherand incumbent had enough votes to be elected
in the general election. The councilnow has a record number of women twenty
two, with seventeen elected from districtsand five at large. That means women

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have a majority of seats on theforty member council. Hell said, I
want to say that I am elatedfor every trans kid in the state of
Tennessee that has felt discomfort or thatthey didn't belong. We are valid,
we are who we say we are, and we are going to move forward.
Hill is a Nashville native a longtime LGBTQ plus advocate. She was

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in the US Navy from eighty sixto ninety five and served in combat during
Operation Desert Storm. After leaving themilitary, she worked at Vanderbilt University in
Nashville. She spent twenty six yearsat the university's power plant, retired in
December of twenty twenty one as asenior supervisor. She transitioned during her time

(38:06):
at Vanderbilt, but she ended upsuing the university, alleging she faced extensive
discrimination as she was going through theprocess. Shocker yeah. She filed suit
in September twenty twenty one. Sheand Vanderbilt agreed to a settlement three months
later. She also received honors fromVanderbilt, including the Chancellor's Heart and Soul
Award in twenty nineteen and the citationas one of three LGBTQ Advocates of the

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Year by the university's Office of LGBTLife in twenty twenty. She will work
to fix the broken parts of Nashville. She said, counsel needs to focus
on improving conditions for people who livein the city rather than devoting attention to
the already healthy tourist trade. Shewas endorsed by the Victory Fund. Nashville

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voters clearly reject the hateful rhetoric thathas grown louder in Tennis politics lately.
Set a statement from Victory's unpresident andCEO, A. Nise Parker, Olivia's
victory proves that transgender people belong everywhereour decisions about them are being made,
including local office. I know Oliviais well prepared to take her seat on

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the Metro Council and work to makeNashville and Davidson County a more welcoming place
for all. Cool go ahead inNashville, Yeah, because you know,
the things that are happening in Tennesseeare profane. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
not surprised it's happening in Nashville though. No, and good on her,

(39:38):
but yeah, Tennessee is still Tennessee. So it's time for s people sake

(43:58):
the desert. Yay. No,I don't know if it's yeay, but
it's not a surprise. I meanit's yeah, because I love shotting for
it. I wondered why I sawa meme of pee Wee Herman and Lauren
Boubert together. I'm sorry what yeah, with peee Herman saying at least I

(44:22):
was in the right theater. Andthen I read this headline that says Lauren
Boubert was caught fondling her dates genitalsduring a family friendly musical. Yep,
that happened. Yeah, she wascaught seemingly engaged in sexual behavior in a

(44:45):
public theater. Newly released security camerafootage appears to show Lauren Boubert engaged in
inappropriate behavior during a musical in apack theater. Boubert and her companion Anymore
asked who leave the show due totheir disruptive actions during a performance of Beetlejuice

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Beetlejuice the musical. Yeah, shewas basically giving him an over the pants
handy wow. In the video,her companion identified buying multiple news sources as
forty six year old Quinn Gallagher,a Democrat who owns a bar at which
drag shows have a gird is seentouching Bobert's chest during the show. Bobert,

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in response, appears to place herhand near his crotch and whispers as
something to him. The suggested agefor beetlejuice is ten and over. This
footage of the public mutual groping wentviral, of course, leading to widespread
outrage. Not a drag queen.Aaron Reid called out the right wing hypocrisy

(45:53):
demonstrated by Bobert's actions. Quote,Lauren Bobert has talked a lot about alge
BTQ people appropriate behavior, and nowshe gets caught funneling her partner in a
pack theater. Imagine for one momenta trans person was caught doing this.
The news stories, right, thebills, the media circus, and still

(46:19):
not a drag queen. Yep,yep, yep, yep to be found.
Yep. Yeah, but she's soconcerned about the children. She was
also taking flash photographs, dancing andusing a vape pen inside the theater.
Yep. I'm looking at the securityfootage in he was going to town on

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her tatas mh like that was Yeah, that's what is it about beetlejuice that
got y'all all the chow. I'mjust gonna say, white trash going a
white trash apparently because it it hasalways been thus And did you think she

(47:04):
was anything else but that? No? Okay, but damn, I mean,
yeah, this woman has no sense. This woman has no actual decorum.
There's no class. Some of thisshit, like you know, has
no apparently no upbringing. In theory, it's like, okay, fine,
but when you see it in practice, it's just like who raised you?
What raised you? Have you notbeen reading the news about this human for

(47:30):
the last three years? Oh,I know she's a piece of shit,
but you know, won't I makea point of not watching her do it?
Okay, Well, there's nothing surprisingabout this other than you know,
the idiot got caught on camera.But it doesn't surprise me at all.
I didn't see I was a surprise. I'm just saying I never actually saw
her being trash. I just knewthat she was. Well, this confirms

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all of them. But we're theproblem. We're the problem. And kids
were present, by the way,Oh yeah, I'm looking at a picture
like while they're doing this, there'sa little girl like standing above them,
like not even feet away, inchesaway. It's like, y'all, y'all,

(48:13):
wow, y'all. Part of whatshe said about analysts. There's no
perfect blueprint for going through a publicand difficult divorce, whichever. The past
few months has made for a challengingpersonal time for me and my entire family.
I've tried to handle it with strengthand grace as best I can,

(48:35):
but I simply fell short of myvalues on Sunday, for Christ's sake,
No, honey, you got caughton camera. My divorce is causing me
such turmoil because she and Marge aregetting divorced. You know that, right,
They're both getting divorced, right,these family values. Folk are both

(48:59):
at the middle of a doors.Right, So it caused you such turmoil
that you had to go see Beetlejuicethe musical and give up over the pants
handy that might not have your kidseven been her first handy that day.
We don't know what time this was. I think she could have gone to
the gas station, the supermarket,McDonald's. I mean, while that is

(49:24):
not the point, that is agood point. Everywhere this chick goes,
everybody should be looking at their securityfootage, and the things she seems to
have focused on is I don't remembervaping, you remember his stick in your
hand, you remember your tit inhis hand? Or that? None of
that is no, Now you're askingquestion Beetle Juice, of all the most

(49:52):
as, what was funny? Seenow it's funny. Now I'm laughing at
the peewee hermon joke. Now Iget it. At least I was in
the right theater because he he wasin a porn theater. It's just he
got recognized because he was jerking offto porn, which like what it's made
for. Oh yeah, I thinkit was gay porn. But whatever,
it doesn't matter. No, itdoesn't, I mean, and now it

(50:13):
would be nothing. And if itwas a Republican he would, you know,
get reelected. But god, theworld is upside down. I have
experienced many emotions while watching Beetlejuice.Not one of them was a horny Yes,

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so there's all kinds of stuff,including the fact that you know,
the dude she's going out with,you know, owns a bar where they
abtract shows. Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't. I don't
know what to say other than youknow it couldn't happen to an uglier human,

(50:57):
uglier, more basic, ridiculous human, you know, And right,
that's all I got, you know, because she was trying to say,
I pleaded guilty to laughing and singingtoo loud. No, that ain't it.

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They initially had refused to leave.They finally left when the theater workers
starting to call the police. It'sembarrassing enough to be asked to leave the
theater for any reason, it is, but beetle choose the musical. Come
on now, Like those words ina sentence sounds like a game of mad

(51:40):
libs. A quote unquote, wellplaced source who knows the Quinn Caliger said
I always saw Quinn was a coolguy and a democrat. His parents would
be horrified because they are definitely blue. The bar has hosted LGBTQ plus events

(52:00):
such as a women's party for aspenaySki Week and a drag performance called a
Winter Wonderland Burlesque and Drag Chow.M hm hm hmmm. I'm sorry,
I'm just reading, you know,I'm reading like this dumb bitch's tweets like

(52:21):
take your children to church, notdrag bars, et cetera, or bring
them to family friendly entertainment, butdon't sit near me right because I can't
help myself when urge hads, Iget a little handsy apparently. Yeah,
yeah, you would have thought thevaping would have come after she just did

(52:47):
all the things. She's just probablyvaping during. There was a coming after
joke in there outside to leave me. Your mom's just saying it, you
know, I I understand why weput it in shutting for it. It's
kind of good that this is allhappening to her. But they don't care
anymore. Republicans just don't seem togive a shit about decorum or actual morals

(53:12):
or actual decency. Like that doesn'tseem to matter to the party. I'm
hoping it begins to matter to actualhuman beings. I'm hoping the rank and
file who still vote for these peopleis taking a good hard look at what
they're voting for. Yeah, becausethe slugs for Salt thing is not taking
us anywhere good and it's getting old. Oh god, it's so old.

(53:36):
This has been our moment of peopletaking posterial name. Okay, so do
you have vote fifteen minute fave?I do, so my fifteen minute fave

(53:58):
it came up at tually very recentlybecause I read that Irish Grinstead from R
and B group seven O two died. She was forty three oh young.
Yeah, cause of death has notbeen provided. But seven O two was

(54:19):
like this awesome group in the nineties. They a lot of their stuff was
produced by Missy Elliott and Timberland.In fact, they were featured on fifteen
Minute Fave from a couple of weeksago beat Me nine one one. And
you know, ever since I readthe story, my fifteen minute Fave has
been stuck in my head. Soin honor of Irish, we're going to

(54:45):
go out to the break to oneof seven O two's biggest hits where my
girl's at, because it's been stuckin my head for a good minute now.
So rest in power Irish Grinstead,and we want to go out to
where my girls at. We'll beright now. See he's my pro berday

(55:08):
And in furl padroom, I mightcall woll bros. Because I are you
call myself? Oh I bereave youwell? Doesn't furl that try? I
fell for the fun. I'm takemy missy, won't say you please take

(55:43):
my missy? Hey, hey,hey, hey, don't buy lay some
making a name. You'd try tomess with my You down on t side,
figuring on time. Oh well,take what is your friend? Oh

(56:45):
and we're back, We're back.I forgot how much I love that song.
There you go, mm hmm.I could play it again. No,
now, because it's time for thecavalcade of nonsense. We're just going

(57:08):
to get through as much of thisas we can because there's a lot.
Yeah, there's a lot. Thisheadline reads this police department is going to
stop saying victims genders so they canavoid misgendering. They misgendered three trans murder
victims in the last nine months alone. I guess they can't get it right

(57:30):
there. Oh, this is theMilwaukee Police Department. So they will no
longer identify the race and gender ofcrime victims to the media in an effort
to avoid misgendering transgender victims because theycan't just get it right. To maintain
both the privacy and dignity of crimevictims, their families and loved ones,

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the Milwaukee Police Department will no longerproactively report out to the community victim information
really to race or gender, butthey will continue to share information about suspects
race and gender, because you know, you've got to know who to look
for. I guess right. Thedepartment chief of staff, Howther how told

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the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the policychange comes after the MPG misgender three transgender
murder victims in media releases within ninemonths. Okay, we don't want to
make a traumatic experience for a family. Worse good said they're LGBTQ plus liaison.

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This person. Guadalupe Velasquez requested thispolicy change in May. She described
the impact that misgendering the victims ofcrimes has had on the community's trust and
law enforcement. It was something thatwas a topic that led to some uncomfortable
conversations for me, where some ofthe organizations were like, we're not well

(59:00):
to work with the police department becauseclearly you don't have any respect for us.
I think the biggest thing is thedepartment wants to make sure we're always
being respectful, she added. Kathleenbarts and Culver, director of the University
of Wisconsin Medicine School of Journalism andMass Communication, told TMJ four that while

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the change makes sense for breaking news, she worries that not disclosing information about
a victims, race, and genderat all could keep the community from learning
about important crime trends. I don'tdisagree there. Yeah, are women more
at risks to be crime victims?Are men more at risk? Are transgender
folks more at risks? She said, So there's longer term stories. That's

(59:44):
where we definitely need to be ableto dive into the data and look for
trends. And that's you know,I have to agree there. You know,
if until we ask questions, wedon't know ship you know, so
like there's you know, this iswe're being humbled with this idea that there's
just not enough data out there aboutour healthcare or whatever, but you know,

(01:00:05):
or our numbers or our because ifyou don't ask the questions, you
don't get the answers right, youknow what I mean. If you don't
specifically ask those questions and folks aren'tcomfortable in giving that information, you're not
going to have accurate time. So, yeah, if you don't report what
could possibly be a hate crime,if you don't report, that's the person.

(01:00:28):
Just get it right. It onlytakes it doesn't take that much longer.
Philadelphi has been doing a pretty prettygood job. They didn't always.
Yeah, there's two sides to this, because, yeah, if you don't
include race and gender in the reporting, then if it is a hate crime,
you've basically just eliminated the hate crimeaspect of it, right. And

(01:00:49):
normally it's the rush to print orthe rush to broadcast where they say,
you know, a man was founddead wearing a dress or some bullshit like
that, like or you know whatI mean, right, Like, they
get the legal idea of the person, but it's not that much more work
to understand that you know, theperson is trans, that is not the
name they use, you know,and and do a list a little bit

(01:01:14):
more work. Yeah, According tothe news station, members of the city's
trans community would prefer that officials geta victim's gender identity right from the start,
rather than withholding the information. Amen, Yeah, that would be idea,
would yeah, because this is like, well, we just won't talk
about them because we can't. Wecan't seem to get this ship right,

(01:01:35):
So let's give them what they won't. We just won't mention that happy naw
Velasqua has noted that the information isnot always immediately available, correct, but
then don't release it until you havean accurate report. You know, we
don't always have somebody on scene.You're the police department direction or that we're

(01:02:00):
getting it right, aren't. They'refeeful and anyway, I think this is
the way to make sure that wethe department doesn't get it wrong. Doesn't
it feel like bumper bowling in that? I mean, in that you know,
let's make it impossible. I don'tknow, I don't know what it
feels like. It just doesn't feellike the right solution to me. Yeah,

(01:02:22):
I mean, I mean the solutionin Philadelphia has been training, education,
you know, ask around, Askaround because somebody knew this person,
like right, establish relationships with thetrans community in particular, and you're you're

(01:02:45):
far less likely to get it wrong, right, Yeah, you know,
because we have friends who get thosephone calls all the time and assist in
you know, assist the police andgetting it right. There might not always
be someone on scene. So Idon't talk about it until you know what
you're saying, right. Yeah,this feels stupid. We're too stupid to

(01:03:10):
figure out how to properly gender folks. It just sounds like they don't want
to do the work. We gotit wrong three times, but instead of
firing the motherfuckers who can't get shitright or I don't know, training them
to get it right, and askingthe community how do we get it right?
Asking the leaders in the air,how do we get it right?

(01:03:34):
We just won't talk about you peopleat all, And they don't even talk
like that in Wisconsin, but they'reacting like that, so I'm gonna keep
saying it. Yeah, no,I this is a yeah, this is
not This is not being done tohelp us in anyway. This is being
done to help them not have totry because it's so hard. Fucking Rob

(01:03:57):
Schneider, Oh, this motherfucker accusedDylan mulvaaney of gender appropriation. Motherfucker,
who is you to have an opinion? I mean he has played a myriad
of culturally appropriative roles, Yes hehas, and roles in which he has
dressed up or played women. Yep. Yeah, he's just he drank the

(01:04:20):
kool aid. He drank the rightwing koolaid, and I think he's gone
to everyone. But anyway, thatmotherfucker ain't been funny since Demolition Man.
Yeah, he jumped aboard the antiwoke train and came after Dylan mulvaney.
If you believe there is such athing as cultural appropriation, he said,

(01:04:40):
Then certainly this gentleman is guilty ofgender appropriation, he wrote in a seemingly
unprompted tweet, mis gendering mulvaney andDylan. Mulvaaney's response was who yeah.
Earlier this year, Schneider also blastedGarth Brooks for voicing support for bud Light

(01:05:05):
after right wingers retaliated because of thevery brief collaboration with mulvany they give her
can't anyway. After Brooks defended thebrand and his commitment to inclusivity, Schneider
told Fox News who else would listento him? That Brooks should shut his

(01:05:29):
mouth and stay out of it.Okay, but you belong in it.
But you think we want to listento you? Okay? Quote, I
think the culture is in a veryweird little place of hyper sensitivity. Oh
honey, for it, Fuck you. The hyper sensitivity is on the rightly,

(01:05:51):
it is on the right. Youknow, they call us the snowflakes.
But God knows these people who willnot accept facts, cannot debate eight
like verifiable facts, and are justtheir whole entire fucking argument is. I
know you are, But what amI like those that whole climate and culture

(01:06:12):
and whatever is happening there that ishyper sensitivity, a weird little place of
hyper sensitivity one way or the other. And I think that's why most people
shut their mouths. I wish theywould. I mean, just from a
business standpoint, just shut up,say I have nothing to do with it.
I'm just as susceptible as Garth Ego. You know he had to put

(01:06:35):
this in well, I think toto total I'm a good person because I
didn't. It's like, shut up. This is Schneider saying that they promoted
Matt Walsh and his documentary What Isa Woman, which is complete garbage.
Schneider called the film worth watching toengage in discuss this very real danger to

(01:06:59):
our children. Now. The conversationthat anyone has a parent should be having
is trans kids exist, and they'vealways existed, and we have not done
right by them in our culture likeever. And so this argument that doing
right by them, you know fora little while, which was the right

(01:07:21):
direction to go. I don't knowhow a parent can look on that anyway.
The entirety of Rob Schneider's career isthe equivalent of a toddler finger painting
with his own shit, and we'resupposed to care about anything he has to
say about it. Oh, I'mnot saying I care. I'm saying speaking

(01:07:41):
of appropriation. I know. It'sjust like, who the fuck is you?
No one has given a shit aboutRob Schneider. I mean probably ever,
Well that's not true, but that'snot true arguably, but yeah,
this is He had a funny characteron SNL. He was in like fifty
First Dates and where I believe heplayed up an indigenous Hawaiian. So fuck

(01:08:06):
off again. I think I usedto like Rob Schneider before he lost his
God damn mind. I'm not goingto front like he was in the Hot
Check, but he played a manwho accidentally swaps bodies with a teenage girl.
Yeah, he has long been accusedof racism. The last thing I
saw him in that I liked wasDemolition Man, and that was eighty eight

(01:08:30):
something like that. Yeah, heplayed other races in multiple roles. Yeah,
he's done that. He's he's anignorant bully. Yeah, but ninety
three Demolition Man was excuse me,but it's just like, yeah, he's
a bully. But it's interesting theythey know the word appropriation, but what

(01:08:56):
it actually means. It's not somuch, not so much the pointing fingers
and denigrating other people for who theyare, for who they are, right,
not okay. I want to goback to the place where it's not
okay. Yes it makes you aCretan, Yes it makes you a piece

(01:09:17):
of shit. No it's not okay. I want that. I want that
back. I don't know where itwent. I don't know why. I
think it was in twenty sixteen,when you know, the white dudes,
I knew all went just something aboutemails. M yeah, something like that.
You know. The other thing Iwant to talk about. I don't

(01:09:39):
feel like going through all these newsstories. But the other thing I do
want to talk about is we haveblood banks calling on LGBTQ people to donate
blood amid shortages. I'm not ashamedto say that I got a healthy cackle
out of reading that headline. Thisalmost went into shutting Freuda, because I

(01:10:01):
still feel like saying, how dareyou? Even they still discriminate, They
still discriminate, and yet they wantto call us to service. It's like,
how very dare you? Yeah,the caveats to taking queer people's blood

(01:10:26):
have just gotten more specific instead ofjust being sweeping like they have been.
Citing urgent supply shortages, blood banksare encouraging illigible LGBTQ individuals to volunteer to
give blood because the restrictions have beenloose sened on blood donations among men who

(01:10:47):
have sex with men, and bythe way, still includes me. I
haven't given blood since nineteen ninety three. The Red Cross announced last month that
it updated its eligibility policy in accordancewith the change at the federal level,

(01:11:08):
and while the New York's Blood Centerplans to begin welcoming eligible donors as early
as the week of September eighteenth,will bless your hearts, they're facing very
dangerous shortages. Here's a fun quote. For decades, we have strongly advocated
for scientifically based changes to the FDApolicies regarding gay and bisexual men, and

(01:11:31):
this recent decision by the FDA isa huge step toward making blood donation more
inclusive. Andreas Cepharelli, SVP atNew York Blood Center set in a written
statement. We look forward to welcomingthese new donors to our centers and blood
drives, especially during a national bloodemergency, and following a tough summer with

(01:11:56):
low turnout, we're currently experienced bloodemergency and both new and regular donors are
desperately needed. MM. The latestversion of the policy allows certain monogamous Now
this is all self reported. Let'sfucking remember that. Let's fucking remember this

(01:12:18):
is self reporting. So every downlow motherfucker who decides to give blood,
which you know, can yea,yeah, yeah. The latest version of
the policy allows certain monogamous, gayand bisexual men to donate blood, but
not all gay men. Under thenew approach, prospective blood donors are required

(01:12:43):
to complete a questionnaire ask and Iwant to know, does everyone complete the
same goddamn questionnaire? I don't know. Maybe they do, but they sure
as fuck should asking whether they havehad new or multiple sex partners in the
last three months. Okay, wellthat should apply to everyone, literally everyone,

(01:13:08):
man, same questions. Everyone shouldhave to answer that question, have
you had new or multiple sex partnersin the last three months? And have
you had anal sex? I hopewe ask that of everyone because gay men
are by fuck straight people have moregay sex than gay people, just statistically

(01:13:32):
because there are more straight butts beingfucked right statistically, because we all know
men love butt sex anyhore. Ihope that's a question I asked of everyone.
I hope it is. I suspectit's not. Oh, you're regular.
You don't have to answer these invasivequestions. We only ask the faggots.

(01:13:56):
Individuals would be blocked from donating bloodif they've report having a new sex
partner or multiple sex partners in thelast three months, and having anal sex
I know some of the motherfuckers thatare donating plasma. They do not fit
any of this criteria. I guessplasma is different. I'll know furthermore,

(01:14:17):
those who are living with HIV,even if it's undetectable because they cannot transmit
it. Zero zero right, livingwith HIV and anyone taking PREP are barred
from donating. Why? Yeah,you'd think if you were taking PREP that

(01:14:39):
you would be further up on thelist. You're protecting your blood supply,
you're protecting your blood from HIVA,But anyone taking PREP is barred from donating
according to the FDA. Maybe there'ssomething I don't know here. Those who
take oral prep must wait three monthsfrom their last dose in order to donate,

(01:14:59):
while those who receive PREP injections canonly donate after waiting two years years
from their last injection. You knowwhat, you know what, it doesn't
make me want to go give blood? Right, Like I said, I
haven't given because are you asking everyoneelse? I haven't given blood since nineteen
ninety three because that is the lasttime I had not had same sex sex.

(01:15:25):
Well, there you go, right, I understand, you know,
And I'm not feeling in any wayencouraged or you know, amenable to changing
my stance because you know, Imean, there was a period of time
in my life when I was ableto give blood, and I did regularly.

(01:15:49):
But I know people who give bloodwho tick all the wrong boxes for
this ship. But as far asI know, nobody's talking about them.
Maybe they are screened out, ormaybe we just test the blood supply.

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I don't know, but it looksto me like we're still betting targeted as
a community. I don't like it, never did, never did. It's
a little less insulting than it usedto be, but not by much.
Not by much. Does not makeme want to run out and do my
duty lesson fuck y'all. It's likebeing called a whore. Instead of a

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fucking whore. Yeah. I guessthat is if these motherfuckers don't want my
blood, my training ass blood anyway, so good good. This is why
you have a shortage shooting yourself inthe foot and then you can't get blood
to treat it. Yeah. Thediscriminary restrictions on gay blood donation date back

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to nineteen eighty three, when theFDA banned men who have sex with men
from donating blood for life for life. Over the years, the policy has
been gradually relaxed. And this isbecause you know, AIDS was slipping through
the blood supply. That's why HIVwas coming through the blood supply to people

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who I guess weren't the targets ofthe disease, you know what I mean,
like in God's playing in Yeah,so we, of course are the
ones who still have to be punishedfor that. Over the years, the
policy has been gradually relaxed, andthe most recent update prior to this one,

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stipulated that men who have sex withmen were eligible to donate as long
as they abstained from having sex withother men for at least three months.
Before that, they had to endurea twelve month to FRAL window before becoming
eligible. Well, I had sexthis morning, so fuck off, right,

(01:18:10):
the clock just reset itself. Ihope nobody needs my blood type.
This is hideous. It is hideous. The responsible queer people that we know
know their status, unlike a bunchof these motherfuckers walking around who don't ever
want to know their status, whoare spreading the disease in moment by moment.

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They know their status, they takeprecautions, they get tested, and
they share their results because they ethicallyparticipate. But they don't know in sex
with people. But I'm just saying, so I will have sex with somebody

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like that way before these motherfuckers whoare lying to everybody, including themselves,
but can go give blood like nommno, no, no, you're lying
to yourself. I know you'll lieto me that part, right, So
I just want to know does everybody? I don't know, but does everybody

(01:19:17):
have to answer those questions? Doeseverybody? Because every you know, the
rules did not apply to everyone.They applied to gay men, period,
men who have sex with men,male identified people having sex with men,
because trans women are lumped into thatsame category when it comes to blood donation.

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And so if you're on prap,you know, for the greater good,
you know, trying to promote publichealth. You can't give. That
boggles my mind right there? Whywhy? I don't get why the fact
that you're on it sounds to meto be, you know, pretty patrician

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and ridiculous because if you're on PREPand your blood can't you know, like
I say, they can't get inthere, like I don't, I just
I don't know. Don't give meto lion. I don't know, because
I've always felt this had less todo with science and a lot more to
do with fear and discrimination. AndI still I still feel like it does.

(01:20:29):
I still feel like it does.So, you know, on the
one hand, sorry about your bloodproblem, but you know that's that's a
y'all problem, and y'all should fixit. Yeah, because I don't know
what to tell you. I don'tknow what to tell you, but yeah,
whatever process they used to screen theblood of you know, the horrors

(01:20:53):
I know are given blood, whateverprocess they use, that's what they should
be using for gay men. AndI would think the technology is far enough
along that we don't have to askall these invasive questions. We don't have
to single out people and we couldjust protect the blood supply with the technology
that we have without having to otherand you know, one would think,

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one would think, but yeah,we're still having this conversation. And so
I guess if you're eligible to gogive blood? Please do you know the
life you save? May think Ishould be dead, but whatever, m
M. I don't have the words. I don't have words, you know,

(01:21:39):
I don't have words. These areyou know, questions. I have
questions I have and have had.So I guess this would be a good
time for a break. Then huh, well pretty much, let's take a
break and I don't know, crackour knuckles and scrub our tongues and yeah,
we'll come back and pop the culture, shall we? Sure? All

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back, all right. That Igot tired of seeing could okay? Okay,
I'm switching it up, trying newthings. Even it free. Okay.

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So the thing about going to allthese live events and working is that
we have not seen much television,or at least I have not. No,
I think I got in a coupleof US fews and uh, only
murders in the building. Yeah,we did. We've continued watching only murders.

(01:23:56):
We're caught up. We are caughtup. I mean Meryl Street,
the fact that she's there, andMatthew Roderick Man, I'm enjoying the cameos.
The cameos are fun. Yeah,that is the most exciting television.
I mean, I don't know,it's okay, I don't love the show
like, but I'm watching it.I have never loved the show like you

(01:24:20):
do. It's okay, I justI dig it. I'm following it.
Yeah, I have no idea whodid it, right. I know.
That's like every week is a newred herring, right, Because Cathy was
like yelling at me because I'm like, I don't know this one. And
then I said, I don't knowthat one. Say that I'm going because

(01:24:42):
the show was telling us that's whothey are, and I was next week
when they say, no, that'snot I was just trying to think of
who was the most unlikely, right, and that's that's that's where that's all
I did. But you know whatever, But we've been watching only murders in
the build it. Yeah, sowe're caught up there. Paramount Plus is

(01:25:02):
released the most recent seasons of DragRace. Nope, I've been watching.
Nope, don't care. You're watchingit? Are you? Yeah? Are
you love it? Okay? AndI'm catching up on drag or any notes,

(01:25:23):
you know, seeing queens that Ihaven't seen before that everyone else is
known about for the past two tothree years. To everyone else that has
been watching drag Race for like consistently, Okay, yeah, that's all.
I don't care. Still over here, are still not caring? I know
you don't care. I'm just sayingthat's I mean, you can talk about
it. That's my contribution. Ah, okay, yeah, I'm one season

(01:25:47):
fourteen. Oh dear god. Yeah, huh yeah, it's fine. It's
been around about long. Yeah,it's true. It's become so self referential.
The show does bring up conversations aboutrace and gender. There's been characters

(01:26:09):
who have talked about, you know, surviving conversion therapy. There's been actually
interesting conversations that come up on theshow. And I my hope is that
for the you know, young queerfolks who might be watching that they're benefiting

(01:26:30):
from them and they're hearing those stories. Like I think something, the primary
the biggest audience for that show nowis like women like forties and up.
I don't know, and like twelveyear olds maybe I don't know. I
mean I'm telling you well, right, I mean I have to say,

(01:26:55):
you know, if I were mewhen I was twelve, I would probably
be watching it incessantly, any representationat all. Right, I watched incessantly
and there was nothing like this,so it you know, to that end,
Yeah, Well, I still saywhat I've always said, I like
the show because of the queens thatcome through, and the artistry and the

(01:27:18):
creativity and the individuals and what they'vegone on to do you know. Yes,
it's a factory. Yes, RuPaulis a problematic human being. All
those things are true. At thesame time, there's still some amazing talent,
like I'm sure that there is,and it is supposed to be a

(01:27:42):
talent showcase at the end of theday, right, and we need more
of those. So oh that remindsme. Jake's Monsoon's stand up special is
available on Prime. We should watchthe Yes, we watched one. Did
we talk about this? Bob theDrag Queen was good, woke man in
address. We watch Bob. Yeah, I love Bob, I love Bobby

(01:28:04):
Drag. Yeah, yeah, thatwas good. All right, Well,
so there's a recommendation. Maybe we'llwatch it and report back. Yeah,
because Jinks is hugely talented. JinxMunson is hugely talented, and this is
why I continue to watch Drag Racefor the queens that come out that have

(01:28:26):
a standout level of talent. Right. But my feeling about drag is also
my feeling about theater, and itactually comes from a place of respect.
You know, we can work outthings and learn more about ourselves in theater,
but it doesn't replace therapy. Thisis also true, and neither the

(01:28:47):
fuck does drag work that shit outbefore you get on a stage. That's
real, that's all because I said, because I actually do respect the cry
and the people who have worked withinit for a very long time. You
are not one of them, andyou need to work out those psychological issues

(01:29:09):
before you hit a stage. Ihave said many many times, if I
want to watch someone masturbate on astage, uh huh, I know where
to go for that. Yeah,no shift, and it is not going
to be your your drag show.Yeah, say, there was actually a
kind of way to say that,but that's the kind way to say it.

(01:29:29):
You know, I never appreciate thatbecause I'm a performer, because I
you know, I so appreciate artand artists and folks who continually work on
their craft. And you know,if you just bring your own your mess
to it and you're working out yourmess while you get paid for working out

(01:29:50):
your mess, that was not Youwere not respecting the craft, you're not
respecting your audience, and you're actuallynot respect in yourself. Right. I've
said that many times at dance performanceswhen folks get so esoteric and so self
absorbed, the same thing to thepoint where like, this is not for
me, This was not for anyof us. And you know, that's

(01:30:14):
actually where I coined the phrase.If I'm going to spend money to watch
someone masturbate on a stage, isnot going to be at a dance concert
exactly. But that's also why wewill never be paid to be critics,
at least I won't, because that'skind of my measure, you know,
that's my measure of wine tasting.Do you like it at the end of

(01:30:38):
the day, Does it taste goodto you? Doesn't matter what anyone tells
you about what's in your mouth,right, Are you enjoying what's in your
mouth? If not, honey,spit it out. It's got notes of
dragon. So I mean that's itdoesn't matter if it's a seven dollars bottle
of wine or seven hundred dollars bottleof wine. If it tastes like finnick,

(01:31:00):
it probably is right, you know. And that's that is always my
take on the arts as well.If it is so esoteric, if it
is so lofty that I with apretty substantial IQ in a decent arts education,
don't know what the fuck you're doing, right, probably neither does anyone

(01:31:21):
else. Well, that's the thing. I don't have to get quote unquote
what you're getting, what you're tryingto say. But I should be able
to get something right if it doesn'tmatter if I can get your message,
It doesn't matter if you spoke tome. But I hope you gave me
some talent. I hope you gaveme something right. But if everybody sat

(01:31:45):
there not getting the point, andthe point is supposed to be, it's
above my head, right if theonly thing I get isn't a headache and
angry? Right, why are youdoing art baby? Right? I mean,
maybe it is just for you,fine, but then especially don't do
it collaboratively, right, you know? And I don't think you have any

(01:32:06):
business on a stage lecturing people abouthow they should view the world the way
you do use your art in asmart enough way to make them think about
the way they view the world.Standing up there and having a little tantrum

(01:32:27):
about them not viewing the world likeyou do is neither art nor smart.
It's just childish and that's not funfor anyone exactly. So that's where I
am with track, That's where Iam with an art period. Yeah,
I mean I will absolutely say withenthusiasm. I enjoyed it. It was

(01:32:49):
approachable, and I think art shouldbe approachable. I do, I always
have. You know, I lovestreet art for that reason. Art should
be for everyone. And you knowif sometimes if you think, like if
nobody gets it, it's because it'spsychosis, not art. I'm thinking of

(01:33:18):
the show that I worked at theCEC years ago, where the woman and
her partner got naked and smeared themselveswith peanut butter, coca cola and milk
and breast milk, and the entiretime I'm staying there going now, who

(01:33:40):
the fuck is supposed to clean thatup? Because they ain't gonna be me?
Well, exactly, I hope theycleaned it up. Yes, they
cleaned it, thank god, Butyeah, like, what was that?
Who was that for? Who wasthat for? Well? I remember being
so intrigued by this particular artist andwhat they did that I went to their
webs to see what else they did, and I came across a piece where

(01:34:04):
this person was singing the song myBoo, and while she was singing,
another person was eating her out whilea third person took a camera and filmed
it. And I'm like, hm, I feel like I've been tricked into
watching porn born bad amateur porn.Yeah, what was the point? Where

(01:34:26):
was Yeah? Because you were right? And the thing that pisses me off
is these are the people that gethuge grants to tour the world doing this
bullshit. And part of it,I think is that, you know,
the grant readers are like, oh, we didn't understand any of that.

(01:34:48):
That's good, that does happen.Yeah, I don't get it, so
it must be oh yeah that wasoh yeah, And then we make up
like a actives to subscribe to needsa therapist, just needs a good therapist,
maybe a medication, and we'll actuallycreate better art, better art,

(01:35:13):
not less better coherent art, right. I mean there are some artists whose
work, the quality, in myhumble opinion, declined after they started going
to therapy, but there was alsoa level of talent there the entire time.
Yeah, I would probably disagree withyou, but okay, yeah,

(01:35:38):
the madness can create good art,God knows. But should someone continue to
suffer? I mean this is anangel question. Should someone continue to suffer
for the sake of art? Fuck? No? Fuck no? So yeah,
it's gonna be an angel thing.You know it was. It was

(01:35:59):
kind of good. We were outand about a lot this week, two
weeks. It's true, we werewe were out and about a lot.
I love the neighborhood. I lovemy people. Yeah. I love having
conversations with artists about art. Ido too. I do too, always
have, and godness, we knowenough of them. But yeah, sometimes

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sometimes art is an art. It'sjust anger m M with no place to
go and whose job it is tofind that place? Maybe we'll work it
out with art. I don't know. It feels like it's time for podcast

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