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December 31, 2024 • 73 mins
"Bald Beaver Hunter" Rapist caught on To Catch A Predator John Elliot

Bald Beaver Hunter came to have sex with a 12 year old girl (though the agent says 13). He was arrested instead and got 7 years in the state penitentiary. Footage original police footage, for public interest in a high profile case. If you feel bad about him, go read his disgusting chat log and think of the child porn he had.
The recording at the end of the video is his phone call with the decoy.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H Are you have something left.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's been your favorite?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just come on over here and faces walk fast to all.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
Okay, you got anything on here?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
What you know about anything?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Anything sharp?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Any needles or anything?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
I don't think I have with you?

Speaker 5 (00:21):
Talk naps, I think you put that bad.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Let's just send your crocket over here. Man, m probably
a re see flash.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Fright, Oh.

Speaker 6 (00:38):
I'm shaking thought step talk.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Kah, I got the list?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You get all that?

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Did you get a put out on that set? Yeah?
Time you gotta watch on.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Alright, turn around, might have a seat, okay, just sit
up front seat, don't sit back in your hands.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
All right. I'll get those cups off as soon as
we'll get the clippers here, alright.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, mm hmm, alright, mhm.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
H old n she's gonna cook these off you.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And why have you bring your hands in the front
you want to recooked them from.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And she takes one off, you can take your hand
out and you put it on your on.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Your knee, all right, okay, which one? Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I need to stand up numa M.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah h.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
H how these stones I will go through that. I
guess that you have a place to get around that
hand on your own chest.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's h hm, pet your hands up furnish alright, okay,

(03:54):
that's question.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
That's fine, you didn't think it.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
M I think we're good at thanks to that interesting night,
haven't you? Yeah? Really say the least?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
John Elliott? What's your full name? John?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
John Weston?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
John Leslie? And you're thirty nine?

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Thirty nine? That's it this year?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
And where do you live? Benon, Benton, Kentucky? Where do
you work?

Speaker 6 (04:43):
There's no cameras or nothing on there. I'm not supposed
to tell.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, I have, there are cameras in here, and it's
because I don't want anybody to say that I beat
you up or that right, something happening here that shouldn't happen.
It's for my protection as well as yours.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Well, I'm glad to tell, because I'll be a party anyway. Uh. Pella,
what is it? Pella Window Company?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Windows?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Okay, so that's not I guess it didn't really hurt
to say it anyway, because it's and false that it's
like everything else.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, well, you know you got you got some things
going on here, but it's not anything that you can't
work through.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
I don't know, girl, I'm I'm at my lowest point
in life right now.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, before we get into the I want to talk
to you, okay, but there's some stuff that I got
to take care of first, as far as paperwork and
getting those things filled out for you. And like I said,
I want to talk to you. I want to hear
your side of the story, because there's two sides to

(05:59):
every store, and I want to hear yours.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Are you a counselor to or no, I'm.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm an agent. I'm with the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Okay, thought maybe use it so you are.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Under arrest, you understand.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
That, Oh yeah, definitely. Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, let's get this pay for work here, And what
kind of car did you drive?

Speaker 6 (06:26):
It's a Chevrolet, Uh, Cobalt like Coca let's say two
thousand and five, yeah, two thousand like.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well, first, I'm gonna read you a statement of your rights, okay,
just so that you're clear as to how this works.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
And then I don't understand that stuff, so we have
to leave kind of slowly with me if.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, I'm gonna read it to you and then if
you have any questions, I'll explain it to you to
the best of my ability. Okay? Is that fair?

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
That work for you? Okay. Before you ask any questions,
you should know your rights. You may remain silent. Anything
you say may be used against you in court or
in any other proceedings. You have the right to consult
an attorney before you make any statement or answer any question,

(07:20):
and you may have your attorney with you during the questioning.
You're good so far. You may request the court to
appoint an attorney for you if you cannot afford to
hire one. You may stop the questioning at any time
by refusing to answer any further questions, or by requesting

(07:41):
a consultation with your attorney. Okay, do you understand what
I've read to you?

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Understand? Yeah? Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
What I'm gonna need you to do is signs right here,
and what it's stating is that I have read you
a statement of your rights and that you understand them.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Okay, okay, And.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
If you understand them, don't have any questions. We'll say
that that was.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Date is.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ten twenty one oh seven and the time is one
fifty four and all right, okay, there where it's the signature, all.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Right, now, all right?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And then here at the bottom. This is called a waiver,
having the above statement of my rights read and explained
to me and fully understanding them hereby wave these rights,
and that you would be doing this freely, involuntarily, without
threat or promise. That's in order for you to talk

(09:21):
to me and tell me what's going on, okay, and
how this all occurred and how you got here tonight.
I'm gonna have to have you wave your rights in
order for that to happen. Otherwise I can't talk to you, okay,
you understand, okay, So if you agree to that, we'll

(09:43):
date it and put the time on there, or you
can sign it and then we'll put the time and
date on there. However you want to do it.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
They tight.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Yeah, all right, it's one fifty six.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Am.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm not sure that I told you, but my name's
Catherine Reid. I'm an agent. Yeah. One other thing I

(10:58):
need to cover with you is a concert to search
your vehicle, and we'll fill out this form and then
I'll read it to you and then you can make
decision whether you want to give us consent to do
the search, okay, and you can be present, or you
can allow them to go ahead and do the search

(11:20):
without your presence. That will be up to you.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Okay, Well I don't do drugs or nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So well that's good. That's a plus. Okay, what type
of it's.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
A it's a Chevrolet Cobalt. Those life cars, Yeah, they're
not bad. I just we'll be working in that factory.
All that stuff gets on clothes and it's got it

(12:03):
all dusty with that stuff. And that's fine on stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what year it is, yeah,
two thousand and five, So you can't you just can't
keep it clean. As soon as you clean it, it's
back dusty all over again.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
What color is it.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
As far as like exact tone with manufacturer color. Don't
know why they call it, but it's just blue. Yeah, okay,
true question.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
So if I walk down in the parking lot and
look for two thousand and five Chevrolet Cobalt blue, i'd
be able.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
It's got the one. Yeah, the ones got the fin
on the back. I don't know if the two thousand
and six had they took the fin off, but mine's
got the little I don't know what they call things,
boilers or something.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, we can look at this together.

(13:22):
It's a consent to search. It's for your vehicle, says
I hereby consent to a complete search of the premises,
property or vehicle located at Bowling Green Police Department and
more particularly described as Chevrolet Cobalt two thousand and five blue.
Now are you the owner? Won't put on here? Is

(13:44):
it just in your name? Help me again? I'm awful
with names. John, Yeah, John Wesley. They just b w
on the title, John w Elliott. A lot of Elliott's

(14:06):
Where I grew up?

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Where'd you go up?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I grew up in Bell County? You know where that is?

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Sorry, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You don't know where Bell County is. I thought everybody
knew where Bell County was.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I know where Pike by looking at the maut Yeah,
because park's at the like the very end. That's the point.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, you know where Virginia and Tennessee and Kentucky meet,
They all cross right there. That's where Bell County is.
Small place in the mountains. Pine Mountain State Park sounds pretty,
it is, it's nice. Maybe you can go there sometimes.

(14:49):
Got PGA tour golf course. Sorry, all right, and you've
been through lot?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
No I don't. I don't deserve evenmore. I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know what, John, I don't you're gonna live through this? Oh,
you don't know what? You can wait on this paperwork? Well,
you give me consent to search your vehicle.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
The worse, I don't have enough about there anybody, Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
When you're your signature life, you can go ahead these side. Sorry,
I'm apologized.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
I just pulled on I feel what. I don't like
it anybody like.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, you know I've seen people in worse situations.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Keep thinking i'd rite drugs.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
So why is that?

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
You ashamed of yourself?

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Oh yeah, that's obvious.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Thinking about what your wife's gonna say when you get
home or when she finds out. It's gonna be a
hard conversation. But you know what, you can practice telling
me the truth that way whenever you talk to her,

(16:28):
you've already run it by me.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
Appreciate you take your time.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I just can you print your name right under dad
and your address right below that.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
I'm sorry, I don't way.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, you know, sometimes you've been through a lot and
you have to have that emotional on the least deal.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
With trying not to. I'm just.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Mhm.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
H m hm.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
M hmm. But didn't trying to run or not? Just ram,

(17:50):
I don't think how I was gonna shoot me. I swear.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
What over at the house. Yeah, Well, like I said,
where's things coulda happen? You gotta go and shop?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Keeps thinking maybe I should just gotta shot in the head.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
So, John, do you wanna be present whenever they search
your vehicle? Or is it okay if they.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Go ahead and do either? Nah, I can't go ahead.
I don't have to be present. Yeah, yeah, y'all felt
like provision of go ahad to search?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You want something to drink?

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Could have some water?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Just actually, I look for some water before we come
up here. I got a sprite there if you think
you could have to do that, or I could have
somebody hunt you down a glass of water? You donna
mind some tap waters?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Probably fine? Okay, looks like you.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Let me open it, yeah, min.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Yeah it's a little hot than you.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah. Say for anybody seeing you like this, well.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
John, alright, it's just mean you in here.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
I don't want anybody see like this. I don't even
bother see like this.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, that's like I said, we'll have an opportunity to
talk about these things and you can deal with it
here instead of with her, because she's gonna be angry
with you.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm here.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Listen. I know.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
She know you chat online?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
No she don't. You chat a lot, well, not a
not a whole whole lot, not like I used to.
I used to chat years ago, a lot more, but
not a whole whole lot like I used to.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
When'd you start.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
White chatting? Gosh back when they're that first tea man,
I say, oh yeah, bear chat was the first thing
I chad know what was it? Parachat? It's like a
text thing that you you type in people reply on it,

(20:25):
kind of like a a group roup. I don't how
explained it wasn't like an instant message thing. Hmm, yeah,
it called parachat. I don't think it exists.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Anymore, probably not. Things would come obsolete so quick on
the internet, with computers and everything that they're more advanced
every day.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I know, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, So what brought you here tonight?

Speaker 6 (21:11):
I don't don't know how to explain it. I wish
I did.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, you know what, instead of thinking so hard about.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
It, just tell me fantasy, just fantasy.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
What kind of fantasies.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
I don't want to be with a young girl. I'm
not saying it's right or anything like that. I don't
mean to make it soundent way.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
What about a young girl makes that fantasy for it?
I mean what helped me understand? And if it helps
you feel better, I'll role play for you and I'm
be your wife and say, what in the world were
you thinking with a thirteen year old? Here I am

(22:07):
at home. Where'd you tell her you went?

Speaker 6 (22:10):
I could go for a drive.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
You went for a drive, and I get a call
from you from the jail because you've been out chasing
some thirteen year old. What in the world is wrong
with you? I thought you loved me, I thought you
appreciated me more than that, which I'm sure she'll throw

(22:33):
a few explicitive words for you, Yeah, won't she.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Probably more likely?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Are you going to answer? Because you're not doing very well?

Speaker 6 (22:58):
I'm sorry, I just, I just I'm giving up.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Giving up what.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
I'm try.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Come on, John, now, I need you to talk to me.
I need you to open up.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
This is gonna sound stupid. I don't want you know.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Record you worry about signing stupid all the time.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Don't you.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
H Well, you know what. I'm not here to judge you.
I don't think you're stupid. I think you made a mistake.
You had a fantasy, you had an opportunity to fulfill it,
and you took a chance, and you're here now. Now's

(24:04):
the time to deal with it. Get it off your chest. Done.
You're losing me. I don't understand what this has to
do with the thirteen year old girl, just.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
As it does. Say, I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, I'm hearing you, but I'm I still need
to know how you got here tonight. You told me
a fantasy.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I drove here. I drove here, Yeah, I drove myself.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
So you started chatting. What was the screen name you used.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Bad beaver Hunter? No? What't look for a young girl
when I think that name? Though? No, No, I promised
at that time. I mean I've had that fantasy if
I wouldn't look for a young girl at that time.
So when she showed up in the room, because when

(25:13):
it's eighteen on her profile, but I can't remember right now?
Really off? Had is that done?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
What you trying to tell me?

Speaker 9 (25:24):
Now?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
You thought she was eighteen?

Speaker 6 (25:25):
No? No, I'm just saying on the profile, no, I
can tell about the picture. I don't mean that way.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
And she told you she was there to Yeah, so
you use the name Bob Beaver. Hum it? What was
the person's name that you were chatting with the screen name?

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Uh, give me a minute.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
You chat with a lot of people, let me help
you out.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
I'm sorry, I just it's gonna have me a think
right now.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Dreaming of fairies, dreaming of fairies, that's it. And her yeah,
Bob Beaver hunter four two zero two five, yeah, and
then dreaming of fairies. She said she was twelve, and

(26:34):
you said cool, thirty nine. Male here bored like a
fat loud.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
So even if we're profile, no, man, I'm just saying
it on the age thing. I think the only way
they can put them on, y'all. I think you gotta
say eighteen. I think, oh that's what.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh you're saying that the chat room you were in
wouldn't allow for them to be in there if they
were under eighteen.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
Yeah, because I think it's the way it's standard on
Yahoo now.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I think so it was Yahoo that you chatted on
when in the chat room.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Tell me about this fantasy where you playing it out
in your chats.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yeah, well yeah, what'd you tell her you wanted to do? Kiss? Sir?
And oral oral sex?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
John, I need you to look at you when you
talk to me.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Sorry, it offends when you don't look at me. I
don't like to be offended. Okay, sorry, Well, I mean,
do you like it if I look away whenever I
talk to you. I'm just kind of disrespectful, you know,
I'm just embarrassed. I understand your But it's not anything

(28:27):
you can't deal with.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
It's over, don't really seriously, it's it's gone now.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Well from what you just told me, it wasn't pleasant.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
To begin with.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You know, all you can do is take the cards
you're dealt and make the best of it, or else
change it. And you'll deal with that.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I'm certain of it.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You'll deal with that. You'll get through it. People have
lived through much worse.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
I don't. I wish you was a counselor because I
always don't want to hear all this joke.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, you know, I'd like to hear about these chats
because with you having this fantasy, I can't help but
believe that this in the first person you've been in contact.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
No, I'm serious, it is No, I'm being I'm being serious.
I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So where'd you find the child?

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Off of people? Off the rooms? In adult rooms?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
You understand.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm trying, okay, rush.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Bouncing around in your head.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Mhmm.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
You know, I just felt like I have to try.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So you knew it was wrong when you came here.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
You knew it was.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Not a good choice to attempt to have sex with
a twelve year old. Yes, did you consider that before
you left the house, But you came anyway because this
fantasy just took over, and because I noticed you're a

(30:47):
little nervous, I guess, just being there thinking, Wow, I'm
gonna get to live out this fantasy that I had. Yeah,
So what wasn't about it? The fantasy? Tell me about
the fantasy? What was it?

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Being able to have oral sex? Was O girl.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oral sex? You performing it or both ways?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
That was my That was my fantasy.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
So that was your intention. Yes, when you got there
and you traveled from Benton to see Now, what was
her name? Didn't she have a name that she gave you?
Crystal Crystal?

Speaker 6 (31:44):
That's right, Crystal Crystal.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, that sounds about right for somebody likes fairies. It's
a pretty name. So John, you're telling me that you
don't have any other minors that you're talking.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
To you on life?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
No, I do not.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
You sure about then?

Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
You ever been in trouble before?

Speaker 6 (32:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
No, uh, court appearances or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
My tags on my back of my car was out
back several years ago. That's the only one I had
to go for, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Registration?

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah, I can't think the name of it. Yeah, yeah,
my life was out And then they pulled me over
for that and he said, you got inspired, uh tag?
And what's this your droppers license from?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (32:56):
What drop was Onno? I say, that's why I used
to live. I haven't got him changed so yet. So
I had to go to appear for that, and the
judge told me it said that if I go get
these things taken care of, they'll dismiss it, you know,
which they said, that's the usual case on the first

(33:16):
time thing. So that's why I did.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Okay, are you ever around any young women or young ladies? No,
any family members, well.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Even go to a family like a gathering, but I
mean I'm not like constantly with them. You know, like
around alone.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, yeah, probably a good idea that.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Wow. Well yeah, I just family was never an issue
with me, you know what I mean. I don't look
at family like that.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
That's good. That's good. So what else was gonna happen tonight?
Did you bring anything with you?

Speaker 6 (34:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (34:13):
For when you were.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
No, I didn't do it. I was gonna do you
of course. Okay, that's what my intention.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay, Now when you get online and chat, how did
you prefer to do it? And that? Like?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
How I mean why whenever I.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Was reading through your chat, you like to be news?
I take it was your wife home or.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
No, should be like downstairs or on her computer. We
got two computers.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay, what kind of computer you have?

Speaker 6 (34:51):
When I built?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah, yeah, I like that's cutting up. I'll be of mine.
It's just building systems. Yeah, so I enjoy figuring them out,
you know, when you order the motherboard, learning the new
stuff on them, and yeah, putting the new stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
So what'd you build?

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Oh, it's uh K six two hundred amdse K six
K two's house that's what they call it.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, it's like the process like two two three years old. Now,
so I mentioned not even listed anymore?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
So, uh what else do you do with your computer?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Get online and look for uh star stuff and space stuff?
You have those stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now, you said that you were getting child porn off
the chat rooms? M can you tell me some of
the people that you were getting it from?

Speaker 6 (35:56):
I can't remember because it's been so long. Some of
those have been like from the years ago. So you
just stored them on your com Yeah, just save them
when they send them to me.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Okay, where'd you save them on my computer? But I
mean did you just keep them in an email or
did you make a special folder for him? Yeah? Okay?
So were you the only one with access to the
computer and then it was upstairs? Okay, so is the

(36:30):
password protected or something? I mean, I'd hate to think
your wife would get on there and finding that child pornorgraphy.
I'd have a seizure if I found child pornography on
computer at home, because I would know that I didn't
put it there.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Yeah. No, she's got her computer. I got my computer.

Speaker 11 (36:52):
Okay, so she has no idea mm hmm, boy, I
don't nbu when she gets ahold of you.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Have neither. Don't worry at all. One and that.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
So you said she's got a computer. Do you have
a digital camera and webcam?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah? Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Have you ever made any child pornorphy yourself?

Speaker 6 (37:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
So what you've gotten sent out received, you've gotten through chats,
somebody else has given it to you, Yes, ma'am. Well
here's the deal. I'd like to look at your computer.
First of all because of the child pornorraphy. Second of

(38:01):
all because of why you're here the night, coming to
see a thirteen year old to have sex and you
travel to do it. This is pretty serious, John, I'm
not gonna kid you. You know, I don't know what
the situation's gonna be for you. That you'll be launched

(38:24):
in jail tonight and they'll give you an opportunity to
make a phone call. But I'd like to get your
consent to go to your home and get your computer
and any other computer related equipment that you may have. Kay,

(38:46):
Would you have a problem with that?

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yeah, I mean it's it's all on there. Okay, So
I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Did you have any special items where you kept pictures
like a flash drive or No, it's all some other
storage mediums, CDs, DVDs.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
No, I'm just talking about one computer. Okay, m h.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Get another sheet out here. Okay the addresses, now, is

(40:03):
that a house.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Or duplex or duplex? Yeah, it's apartment.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
What county is that end?

Speaker 6 (40:12):
It's Marshall, Marshall County.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
You lived there all your life, John.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
They have Cage City. When I grew up and moved
to Metropolis for sinkers, two years they moved back. That's
far I've been skiing. M hm. Oh wait wait wait
wait I met my wife and lived on a barble

(40:46):
after Capert City m hm.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Okay, okay, okay. And do you have any special hardware

(42:02):
software that you use that would be out of the ordinary.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
M No, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
What do you operate Windows?

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
XP, Windows XP? Okay, Now do you have a well

(42:36):
you said you built your tower, didn't you.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
So you got a personal computer? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Okay, you said you had computer, webcam, digital camera. You

(43:06):
have CDs and DVDs?

Speaker 6 (43:08):
No, I have a DVD burner.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Okay, So you have DVDs or you don't. Oh?

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Yeah, I got DVDs, but I don't have DVD pornography
or anything like that. Okay, yeah, I just got movies.
Well thought you talked about on the computer alright.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So they're not ones that you've made right from the
computer exactly. Okay, what about pornography or child pornography on
on a disc or something?

Speaker 4 (43:35):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
What about disctts?

Speaker 6 (43:40):
No? I don't use No, I don't even have that
on my computer.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
So how do you store data other than the computer?

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Or do you on the uh cdry so you can
burn CDs? Can burn CDs? Right, I'm trying to be cooperative.

(44:07):
It's best I can just bear with me. I'm trying
to remember all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, I'm listening. I don't think I told you that
I wouldn't really, No, I'm just.

Speaker 9 (44:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Now, here's what this one says. I hereby consent to
a complete search of the premises, property or vehicle located
it for all computer equipment i e. Computer webcam, digital camera, CDs,
et cetera. I grant this consent to Catherine reading on

(44:57):
to me, to be an agent of the Office of
each any General into such other officers deemed necessary to assist.
I know that I have a right to refuse to consent,
and I voluntarily give up that right. I know that
the agent does not have a search one. I have
not been threatened or course in any way, nor have
I have I been promised any favor or benefit. I've

(45:19):
read this consent for him where it has been read
to me, and I understand it. The dates ten twenty
one oh seven. The time is two thirty two am.
And if you agree to that, you can go ahead
and sign in the same place and then print your
name and the hadler right.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
Underneath the.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Oh my gosh, h m Okay, okay, do you take

(46:32):
any medication or anything?

Speaker 6 (46:34):
North Trills?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
What kind of earth pas.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
If if rex or X or.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Effectsor Okay, that's it?

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (46:47):
Is that it?

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (46:51):
That vitamins, you know, not my c's and stuff. I
could have the regimented you know things.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I take one wealthy vitamins.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Well it's kind of well, it's wherever she puts.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
In a people bolls you like your life takes care
of that stuff for you.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm gonna go ahead and put your citation out here.
It doesn't mean that you can't keep talking because I'm listening. Okay,
So you wanna tell me about some of the other
people you chat with. But there's some real winners out there,
you know.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
I know, what is.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
A lot of bots on that huh, A lot of
bots bots?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
What's that?

Speaker 6 (47:52):
That stuff? What they advertise? Don't advertisement touch you born
stuff you know all the time.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Oh yeah, So what other kind of fantasies?

Speaker 8 (48:03):
You have?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Nothing wrong with fantasies? You know if people have dreams
and things that they'd like to do in life.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
Oh, winning money?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
I think we all have that one, don't we. I
don't know what I do with it if I had
got a lot of bills? Is it Wesley? Spell that.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
S l e y? Okay?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
So what do you go by on on your hood? No?
I mean do you go by John or do you
go about Wesley? Or?

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Oh? John? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Just John? Okay, And let's see, I got your address here.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
Did y'all already called the house?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Pardon?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Did y'all already call the house that you know? I
mean you don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
No, I'm not gonna call your house. I don't have
any reason to call your house.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Okay, do it? What do you mean?

Speaker 11 (49:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I mean, why would I call your house? I mean,
come on, I'm gonna let you call her. You're gonna
explain that, not me?

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Okay, I didn't. I wouldn't being smart? Sorry, Oh I didn't.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Think you were being smart. I was just letting you know, though,
she's gonna be mad, and she cann't take it out
on you.

Speaker 6 (50:10):
Not on me.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Better get yourself prepared for that.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Now, did you have a driver's license with you? Yes,
ma'am is a Kentucky driver's Yes, ma'am, it's in my
I get that minute. You want to give me your
social okay, in your day of birth?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Yeah? Why span.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Set pill of windows? I thought you made car parks
on your chat.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
I'm not supposed to talk about where I work. It
was in a consent for him when when wet hard in?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Okay, So what's your occupation with them?

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Solid prayer? Not evenmore though, Hm. That's the reason why
they don't want to name given out case suns some
ap to somebody like this, yeah and that. What city
is it in? Murray?

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Your full time resident? Kentucky?

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Yes, you're married?

Speaker 8 (52:28):
Now mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
What's your home number?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
An emergency phone?

Speaker 6 (53:15):
I can't remember all payd it was my mom and dad. Yeah,
I can't. I can't remember off hand right now. It's
on my phone in there.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, okay, Well, the emergency phones for the jail is
something they need to call somebody or something, they'd have
that number.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
But I mean, you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Put one on there if you don't want to. What's
your height?

Speaker 6 (53:41):
Five eight? Wait, I'm guessing it's one ninety five. Hair
color mm hm, bond whatever? I guess he used to

(54:06):
be blond, but I guess it's brown. What do you
want me to put on? OK? Sorry? Sorry, I'm trying
not to be difficult, really I'm not.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
But uh that color blue?

Speaker 6 (54:22):
Green?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Green?

Speaker 6 (54:30):
I'm already trying.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
But you be alright.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
I'm to be cooperative.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
But everything I know you are, I think you've done
real well.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Everybody wants to go home co bete.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Well, you know, sometimes you got a job to do
and you just gotta do it.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
I'll miss my brother.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Huh, you weren't talking to me.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
I tell you miss my brother.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
You miss your brother? Does he help you a lot?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
He died.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
Cancer? Can I tell you something?

Speaker 9 (55:42):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I told you I'm always missing in my ears.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
It should be me six feet under not to help?
Should I mean that?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Why do you be all right?

Speaker 3 (55:58):
No?

Speaker 6 (55:59):
I mean he was a buch of a better person.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
You know what, you're a good person. What's eating you up.
Something just really got you.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Just great place. I know you're not a counselor. That's
what I want to say. You know you sis say
that out loud. See, I just hate my life. I
really did.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
You go to a counselor? Oh you're gonna start.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Oh yeah, because I detail.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Would be a good place for you to start up.
That you feel better you talk to me. You feel
better that.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
You talk to me. How glad that you would here?
Why let me just see enough way of talking?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Well, you know some of them back at the office
tell me I don't know how to shut up, get
sick on me. So I appreciate you appreciating me.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
You know what? You make me think of that actress?
So I think her name? Just wait, you talk make
me think her?

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Ain't God of Lane?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Is it that?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
On that flight?

Speaker 6 (57:55):
That flight a you what missing child on that on
that plane? And they kept on it. You didn't come
on board a little girl? But she knew she did.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
I can't make her her?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
What's the movie called flight flight?

Speaker 6 (58:19):
I can't remember. Also in that movie hammiple lecture.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Oh you know what, Jody, that's how I like her too.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
She's one of my favorite actors.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Well, I tell you what, this is the worst part
of this job out all this paperwork.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
Mmhm, it's over.

Speaker 12 (59:20):
Mhm okay, m hm.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
I gonna go, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Find your license and get some information from your car, kay,
and I'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
You hungry, no, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Chips there and a candy bar.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
I thank you, but you can understand why I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Some people handle stressed differently.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Yeah, they don't handle it. No, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Mm we'll get you squared away here in a few
minutes and get you transported over to the jail.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Kay.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You still got plenty of drink there, or you want
me around jump.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Some water if if you can. I mean, I don't
want to do too much more bout it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I'd say I could do that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
For you you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Okay, okay, let's thanks anyway, alright, alright, we'll be back with.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
You, okay. M Blackman talks.

Speaker 8 (01:01:18):
Mmmon, sure, okay, s.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
So questions not a questions waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Like my life lay.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Sis one at said, I'm discussing.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
What Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
My pardon, Yes, you wanna build me.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Come this way right around there? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
Uh yeah, well hello, Hey, Hey, how.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Uh someplace called Dawphin Springs.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Where yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:08:05):
Wait wait we can't wear it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Uh someplace called Dawson Spring.

Speaker 10 (01:08:11):
Dolphin Spring. Yeah, that was a long th Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
That sure was a long thing something.

Speaker 10 (01:08:22):
Sorry, I was like getting clumsy, but like then I
was like, oh no, I have just the water, and
then I wanted to make some kool wad and sorry.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
Okay, yeah, oh so.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:08:37):
Dolphins you mean Dolphins Spring?

Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
Okay that yeah, yeah, okay cool?

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
All right, well yay, how far does that make you?

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I really don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:08:52):
Yeah, okay, I'm so excited you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Oh yeah, okay, Oh yeah, I am nervous. I'm just
nervous as heck.

Speaker 9 (01:09:06):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I'm just damn, that's just damn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I've never done like this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I've never done anything like this.

Speaker 10 (01:09:18):
He's so sweet, though, you know, I'm just really excited
that you're coming.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
I have never done anything like this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
If you think that much of this is crazy, this
is crazy. This is crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:09:33):
You're so cute though, mm hmm. Anyways, Oh, are you
so excited?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yes, I'm excited, but I'm scared nervous at the same time.

Speaker 10 (01:09:48):
Why I'm will scared too, because I don't know if
you'll like him or not. I know that's what I'm
afraid of.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
That's I guess why I'm scared.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
What did iver like you?

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:09:58):
I mean you know, No, it's not true if they
knew that, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Me, I've never been pumpered with the girls.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
You're the I don't understand why. That's reason I cast
why you like me.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
I don't care what people you have, just like you're
good with girls like you're so sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
I don't know that they never got no marror anything.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
So no, that's the fault.

Speaker 9 (01:10:37):
But yeah, I am exited.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
I am excited.

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
Mm hmmm, what if you don't like me?

Speaker 9 (01:10:47):
I'm sure I'm like your girl. I did this, I think,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Because what so this way, Let's say you were two
hundred and eighty pounds, but you you're you still talk
like you do and have the personalty that you do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I still like you.

Speaker 10 (01:11:10):
You you're so too, that's nice. Well, I don't say
that you're coming. I really amn't. And I don't know
why you don't you think I like you or anything,
because I wouldn't if I wasn't comfortable. I wouldn't have,
you know, wanted you to come, right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
I'm just surprised that you want me to even do this.

Speaker 10 (01:11:31):
Mh. I'm glad you changing are coming, really glad right,
I am too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
You know I need to get away anyway, just get out.
I don't get out anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
I just work and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
This is nice to be able to just take a
you know, take a rope trip, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:11:59):
Mm hm oh that's great. Well it sounds far and high.
I like sometimes they're like long car rides and stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
Yea, literally a long car ride.

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
Yeah. Yeah, well you're listening to music. What are you doing?
I don't know why listening to music or something.

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
I just don't have anything going.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I would just like three cars, like.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
Gosh, I'm sorry. I was hoping you were listening to
music or something. I was like, man, he's gonna like
wonder what I am. I'll hold on one second, okay,
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