January 1, 2025 • 60 mins
Police Cadet Rapist on To Catch A Predator Michael Patterson Police Interrogation
Michael Joseph Patterson, otherwise known as jon_raven2000 was a predator caught in the Bowling Green, Kentucky installment of To Catch a Predator. He is perhaps best known for screaming his ass off while being arrested by the police.
Biography
Prior to the sting operation, Patterson was a reserve police officer in Lebron, Indiana, who was fired for using police car lights to pull someone over, impersonating an on-duty officer.
Patterson drove 5 hours away from Kouts, Indiana to the sting house in Bowling Green to meet up with a girl he believed to be thirteen. Within 2 hours of being acquainted with the decoy online, he drives to her house and talks to her over the phone on the way. During the conversation, he discloses that he carries a gun with him everywhere, so the sting team gave the decoy special instructions to make sure he was unarmed upon arrival. The decoy gives a series of verbal commands to Patterson to prove that he is unarmed, and he giddily does so without suspecting a thing. Once he enters the house he gives into the decoy's small talk, admiring the house and falsely telling her that he's a detective lieutenant. After disclosing this he is greeted by Chris Hansen, who exercises his own detective skills and asks Patterson why he's there. Patterson cites his loneliness and his ongoing divorce as reasons to commit statutory rape.
After chuckling at hearing some of his chat log lines, he is let go by Chris, only to come face to face with a group of officers (who are advised to act more swiftly than usual due to the earlier suspicion of him being armed).
Upon seeing the officers, he steps back into the house and makes a run for it, being shot with a taser gun as a result. Only one of the prods of the taser connects with Patterson's body, which allowed him to run even further through the house without being electrocuted. Like a scene straight from The Walking Dead, he is quickly ambushed from all sides and taken down while he screams and begs hysterically.
Aftermath
On June 11, 2008, Patterson was convicted of Traveling In Interstate Commerce For The Purpose Of Engaging In A Sexual Act With A Minor. He received 7 years in federal prison and 10 years supervised release. He also received three years and ten months by the state of Kentucky. Both sentences were served concurrently.
In 2011 Patterson represented himself in a civil lawsuit against NBC Universal, Inc., asking for $40,000,000 each in monetary and punitive damages, as well as injunctive relief in the form of having all information about him taken off television and NBC's website. Patterson's allegations include:
He was "lured" to the sting house, and that the decoy took advantage of his "vulnerability".
NBC Universal, Inc.'s "libel, slander and defamatory statements" have caused him mental and emotional stress and ruined his reputation.
NBC Universal, Inc.'s participation in his arrest and search violated his constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment.
State law claims for intentional disclosure of private facts, intrusion on the right to be left alone, harassment/intentional infliction of emotional distress, and negligence.
NBC Universal, Inc. is liable for violating the "Journalistic Code of Ethics."
Patterson’s complaint was entirely void of any factual allegations regarding his claim for negligence, and the case was dismissed.
Trivia
His scream is commonly compared to Homer Simpson and Tom from Tom and Jerry.
He is the only tased predator to withstand the taser shot before being taken down.
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Michael Joseph Patterson, otherwise known as jon_raven2000 was a predator caught in the Bowling Green, Kentucky installment of To Catch a Predator. He is perhaps best known for screaming his ass off while being arrested by the police.
Biography
Prior to the sting operation, Patterson was a reserve police officer in Lebron, Indiana, who was fired for using police car lights to pull someone over, impersonating an on-duty officer.
Patterson drove 5 hours away from Kouts, Indiana to the sting house in Bowling Green to meet up with a girl he believed to be thirteen. Within 2 hours of being acquainted with the decoy online, he drives to her house and talks to her over the phone on the way. During the conversation, he discloses that he carries a gun with him everywhere, so the sting team gave the decoy special instructions to make sure he was unarmed upon arrival. The decoy gives a series of verbal commands to Patterson to prove that he is unarmed, and he giddily does so without suspecting a thing. Once he enters the house he gives into the decoy's small talk, admiring the house and falsely telling her that he's a detective lieutenant. After disclosing this he is greeted by Chris Hansen, who exercises his own detective skills and asks Patterson why he's there. Patterson cites his loneliness and his ongoing divorce as reasons to commit statutory rape.
After chuckling at hearing some of his chat log lines, he is let go by Chris, only to come face to face with a group of officers (who are advised to act more swiftly than usual due to the earlier suspicion of him being armed).
Upon seeing the officers, he steps back into the house and makes a run for it, being shot with a taser gun as a result. Only one of the prods of the taser connects with Patterson's body, which allowed him to run even further through the house without being electrocuted. Like a scene straight from The Walking Dead, he is quickly ambushed from all sides and taken down while he screams and begs hysterically.
Aftermath
On June 11, 2008, Patterson was convicted of Traveling In Interstate Commerce For The Purpose Of Engaging In A Sexual Act With A Minor. He received 7 years in federal prison and 10 years supervised release. He also received three years and ten months by the state of Kentucky. Both sentences were served concurrently.
In 2011 Patterson represented himself in a civil lawsuit against NBC Universal, Inc., asking for $40,000,000 each in monetary and punitive damages, as well as injunctive relief in the form of having all information about him taken off television and NBC's website. Patterson's allegations include:
He was "lured" to the sting house, and that the decoy took advantage of his "vulnerability".
NBC Universal, Inc.'s "libel, slander and defamatory statements" have caused him mental and emotional stress and ruined his reputation.
NBC Universal, Inc.'s participation in his arrest and search violated his constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment.
State law claims for intentional disclosure of private facts, intrusion on the right to be left alone, harassment/intentional infliction of emotional distress, and negligence.
NBC Universal, Inc. is liable for violating the "Journalistic Code of Ethics."
Patterson’s complaint was entirely void of any factual allegations regarding his claim for negligence, and the case was dismissed.
Trivia
His scream is commonly compared to Homer Simpson and Tom from Tom and Jerry.
He is the only tased predator to withstand the taser shot before being taken down.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-podcast-2025--6463449/support.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Jeez that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Here one more time. We're gonna coffee up front. Okay,
same admonishment.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, Kee, we're just gonna cut him up front.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, my teacher going to.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Leave this cus on, put this one on your person
on the cup.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of I got.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You said out? Did you get hurt? Hair cut on?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's yea. Oh shure, they're fine.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Stay with it.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
You got it.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I if you listen call you haven't ask what or whatever?
Why any medical tack you can see some guy?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Do you won't like it?
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Or what do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You have?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Take what at this for medical purposes? See your arms
at it?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What your arm up there?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The other ones or anything?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well that don't think so? Sure?
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Kay?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
If your sisters.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
You had a chat log or Detroit.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tad Christmas, you guys get too, sim Yes, that's us.
We got him.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
speA m.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The first sight.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Does you a person stay in there?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He can go that time. Brought your water if you
want something to drink there. Your name is Michael Patterson. Michael,
my name is Ken Gillingham, and I'm an agent with
the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation. And you're here at the
Bowling Green Police Department. I'm gonna turn on a tape
(05:28):
recorder so that we have a accurate representation of what
we talk about here tonight. Today's date is Sunday, October
twenty first, two thousand and seven. The time is now
approximately two forty five am. President, our agent Ken Gillingham
(05:48):
with the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation, and Michael Patterson. Mich Patterson.
I've talked to you, and you do know that this
tape recorder is being turned on to record our conversation. Yes,
what's your full.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Name, Michael Joseph Patterson?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
H And what's your day of birth? What's your home address?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What's your SO Security number? How tall are you?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Five eleven wait, one hundred and ninety five pounds, brown
hair and hazel blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Married, single, divorced mom going through a divorce now still
lately married?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Man, we're you employed?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well nowhere as of the weekend. Well, I worked through
through private investigation services. As a car was in my wallet.
I didn't know who that guy was that I was
talking to, and I didn't give him acurate information. I
was a police officer.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay, but are you say you I do like.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Private investigations, okay, through uh lieutenant O'Day from Hebron police lieutenant.
It's uh just put lieutenant O'Day investigation services. I just
do that part time right now because I go to
school up Purdue.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And what type of private investigations do you do?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Just confidential? You know, confidential discrete investigations.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Give me an example, cheating, cheating, span.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Insurance fraud.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Workers count frauds that so you're you're not a sworn
police officer.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I was fatibran and that went down.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What happened there, it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Was a traffic violation that violated their sp their standard
standard operating procedures. I Uh, I went out and I
had I got some blue red lights and I put
them in my car. I was thrown out a core
So they dismissed me for that, but it was thrown
out health of it was that just like a month ago,
(09:21):
about a month ago, and you have any children?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, it was all right. If I call you Michael, Mike,
what do you go by? Mike Mike? Obviously, if you've
been in law enforcement in the past, uh, you're probably
familiar with your miranda warning, your statement of rights and
(09:52):
you know that before I can ask you any questions.
I'm required to advise you of your rights, the statement
of your rights, or you may remain silent, that anything
that you say may be used against you in a
quarter or other proceedings. That you have the right to
consult an attorney before you make any statement or answer
any question, and you may have your attorney with you
(10:14):
during the questioning. You may request the court to the
point attorney for you if you cannot afford to hire one,
and you may stop the question at any time by
refusing to answer any further questions or request to consult
with your attorney. You understand those rights that I ever
read to you? Yes, okay, I would right there?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
How they did that, that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You've had the rights red togain that you understand them.
And then the second force down here is a waiver
of those rights, says having me both statement of my
rights read and explained to me and fully understanding, then
when I hereby wave these rights at the time is
now two fifty one am on October twenty first, two
(11:13):
thousand and seven. And I do this freely, involuntarily, without
the threat or promise. Do you wanna talk to me
about why you're here tonight and try to get the
bottom of this situation.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I W I don't know if i'd have my attorney
involved in Ah.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's up to you. I like to discuss with you
why you're here, but that's entirely up to you. I
discussing you will, okay, if you will, need you to
(11:56):
also sign right there? Did you get your water open?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I got them.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And one other piece of paperwork to you either the way.
Obviously you drove a vehicle down here.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I think, uh was it Caranda.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What we would like to do, Michael, is do you
have anything in the car? Weapons?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This my one forty caliper that was this? Mike gone,
I've got my permitted. I went over to state Land.
I probably didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well. What we would like to do is get your
consent to go out there and search the vehicle. If
there's a weapon in it, we don't need to leave
it in there so they can break into it or whatever.
So we would like to get your permission to go
out there and retrieve anything out of your car that's
you're not supposed to be in there. Yeah, and your
car was brought down here at the Bow and Green
(12:55):
Police Department. It's out back.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, damn supper?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And what year is your car? You say two thousand five, yeah,
Pontiac Grandam.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, Grandam GT.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And what color is it?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
M'ss er.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two door, four door, two door.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's the only thing I'm finding. There's that weapon, my weapon.
And I like my school bag, my black bag.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And what will be in that bag just my s
just my few school books.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Uh again, your.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Your signature right there and then your printed name and
address underneath that hoe this I won't move for you.
(15:13):
Like what's your screen name?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
John Raven? John underscore Raven two thousand, mkay?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And do you know the remember the screen name of
the female that you were chatting with online? Tatia something
Tatia underscore pet thirteen.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
When did you first start chatting online with her? Just
today today? Remember what time?
Speaker 9 (15:51):
It was?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Probably seven clocks that are on there if I.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Tell you, the log reflects about four thirty nine pm
the afternoon, a little sooner than Were you working today
when you did that or you were home? Were you
on a home computer?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
My laptop?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What type of laptop do you have?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Teshiba Satellite And it's actually in the.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Car with me your computer is in the car with yeah, okay, uh,
and you said she was salute. You have satellite service.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Satellite wireless is what it is?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And who's that service through?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I have Nutgear right there at couch that year that
YEARN E T G E A R.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And I know you had a cell phone with you
when you came into me. Did you chat on it
on the way down or did you call or talk?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't think I chatted with her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
An its instant message or anything when you went on
the way down.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think I did. I'd put like call me on there.
I think that was the only thing I try to
get hold of her with. I'd track on her and
then I couldn't get a hold over her, so I
went to trend some message on my phone and then
try getting hold of it that way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay. Is the laptop the only computer that you have
there at your house? You don't have a desktop or I.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Have a desktop? You have a I don't even use
that thing anymore?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
What type of desktop is it?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't even know. It was middle of my wife's.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Sure, where's it located in the house.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's uh, it's right in my second my storeage room.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Sit down.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The storage room is inside your house though, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Actually the second bedroom. But we don't we don't have
anything else besides like crap in that room, all my
tools and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And and you said you were going through a divorce.
Does uh your wife still live there? Also?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
No, she's moving. She's living with her mom and dad
in Crown Point.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, any anyone else living there with you? Do you
have the animals in the house dog fish? And you
(18:50):
said it's an apartment?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
How many bedrooms right in the apart? How long did
it take you to drive down here today?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Lit over five hours eleven and to have so.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That part of what you were saying out the uh
at the house was true?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah? And what wa?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What was your reason for coming down? I d I
really didn't I WA wasn't going to wasn't gonna watch
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Gonna come down here. I wad you do you probably
see on there on the conversations that I was weary
of coming down here?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What what made you come? Right? I mean you you know,
now's your time to explain your side of the situation.
I you know, I'll be frank with you. I won't
ever lie to you. And I expect the same consideration
and return. And you know, I'm gonna ask you some
(19:56):
questions that I'd like to have you answer. Why did
you come down here tonight?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
She said a blow drive or something.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, And you in your chats you talk about her
sucking your dick. Yeah, so you had intentions to to
at least have oral sex with her.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And how did she tell you that she was She said,
go on fourteen, She's gonna be fourteen February or something,
I believe, Yeah, and you you knew that wasn't right.
I knew it wasn't, But yet you came. Do you
think anything else was gonna happen after you got here?
(20:46):
Cause let nature take its course.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I was worried of coming in the house. I drove
around for a little bit. I almost didn't come in.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
M Have you chatted with other people online before like this?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No? I mean I've talked to people, have been order,
but just friends.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know. I what what about other other females. I'm
sure you've chatted with other females, don't Yeah, what what
would you say would be the next youngest person that
you've chatted with? Eighteen's youngest eighteen yeah, never would you
ever meet anyone else in person from your chats?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
One?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
How LONGO was that?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I've met her a couple of months ago. She's twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And where does she live?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
She lives in Cocoma. Well right now Logan's Sport with
her mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
In Logan Support.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, Logan Sport.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'm assuming it's Logan Sport, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, Logan Sport, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And do you remember what her screen name was?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
God, it's such a bad headache. Really hit me against
the ground.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I can't remember or what her real name is? Her
first name?
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh man, what is her name?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
When's the last time you chatted with her?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Just call she called me today? My mind as my hair.
They tased the crap out and they hit me against
the floor. I can't well, you ran, I was standing
there at the door. I don't even know. My mind's
(23:04):
not here.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Hop if she if she called you today, I mean
you had to know. Her name was chat room. That
(23:31):
was the room, Yeah, except pretty much where you usually chat.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You said it was about two months.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Ago, Yeah, pretty close.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Anyone else.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just vaguely that she was the main person I talked to.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And she the on one one that you met in person? Yeah,
and how many? How many times have you met with her?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Twice? I just met her parents the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So you went to where she was at half far
his logan's report from just.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
An hour away.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You met her parents, Mike, have you ever been any
trouble before other than what you told me earlier with
the not any of this, the policy violations and and
you like you said, traffic ticket or something that was.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
The traffic ticket that was just they didn't even turn
it in with the blue and red lights.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Back then an author as use of I wasn't supposed
to have it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
In my car, my personal car back in three I
had I had misdemeanor A stupid I'm stupid now missmeanor
a it was for theft. I got a bank card
through in the mail and it was all in my information,
(25:24):
my address and everything they get, you know, the bank,
Citizens Bank. They gave me a pin code access to
it all. I went to the ATM because I had
a savings with them, savings account, but I didn't have
a checking I thought that was for my savings, but
I got stupid when I seen the balance. I got
like twelve hundred I settled with the restitution twelve hundred
dollars from that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And so the card was actually on somebody else's account,
it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
The account number was to another person's account, but it
went all to my name and everything to my address
with the pin number on the card that had my
you know, my full name Michael Joseph pat Michael J.
Patterson on it. And that was basically and that was.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
In two thousand three. And you said two thousand what
was the what was the final results of it?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Missus mean rae? That was a plea. I completed my
probation and stuff and.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Made restitution.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, paid all that back.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Say it was about twel hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Were you on the police force then?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
No, that was I just turned twenty one, twenty one,
twenty or twenty one, and just turn How how long
were you on the police force?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just three months? I did my pre basic with Hebron Police,
my pre basic law enforcement academy. I did you had
my weapons qualifications and all that?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
How you spelling heap handcuffs H E B R O
N And what what were the dates that you were there?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
July to.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
July of O seven or.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
July o seven to the beginning of October, the end
of August or the beginning of October. Just put the
end of August. That was two months I was there.
If it was that July, Oh my mind's my hair?
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Oh God?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Obviously this is you in the picture here? Who are
Who are the other people in there with you?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
My brothers standing next to me and my sister and
then his that's my bruh younger brother. That's his girlfriend there,
my sister and my older brother.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Kay, did you bring anything else with you? Like you
(28:42):
talked about possibly bringing bringing a gift or bringing something.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I didn't. I don't even That's why when she said that,
I didn't remember what she was talking about. I didn't
say I was to.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Bring anything you You didn't tell her you were gonna
bring anything.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I don't think so I can't remember if I d
I don't think I did.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Were you planning on spending the night?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I wasn't planning for staying very long cause I had
to get up. I had to go to uh possible
do my group UH project today cause we have a
midterm presentation tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Group projects By tomorrow you mean Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Sunday like today, we were supposed to go back up
back to home and then hopefully got together with my
group to practice our group presentation for the Monday morn
tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, for what type of class?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
My communications class?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
What year are you in it? Perdue?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I'm going part time. I only have twenty credit hours,
so first year it barely be the first year freshman year,
but just barely because to get a Bashard's degree with
Perdue up there, I have to have one hundred and
forty credit hours for four years, so it's barely a
freshman year.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The desktop computer that's at your apartment, is there an
inter net service hooked up to it, or wireless card
or anything with it? You say, it's an older computer.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Man, it's an old tank clunk, Michael.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
We're gonna find on your computer when we look at it?
Is it gonna be a child pornography? No? No, no,
gonna be any adult pornography?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, there's from one of the chat rooms. I saved
one picture from maybe two from an older lady she
had in her little profile thing. It was from a
older lady. I think she was one of those bots,
you know, like a pretend person you talked to to
put that crap in their profile. So I put that
on there. I think I might have two pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
What about DVDs, VHS tapes.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Anything like that at the house, like what I have
dv you know, regular DVDs that I watched movies?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right about what I'm talking about. Is any child or
adult prono nothing like that? Any drugs at your apartment?
And you said he burns a population of about three thousand.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Three thousand, that's what they said.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, where's that located.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, it's just south southeast of Crown Point about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So it's he's pretty far up up. And then yeah,
and if I understood, you're right, you came for oral sex.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That was because she spoke up. She said it, you know,
she'd if she went in mile.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, uh, she she didn't bring it up first though,
you brought it up first. Ask her if she never
had a boyfriend? H yeah, has she ever done anything
with him? Like suckers dick? Would you do me? You
(32:59):
recall those yes? Okay, speak up because obviously the tape
recorder can't see you shake your head, all right, and
you've never done this with anyone else? We're not gonna
find any any chats on your computer or anything with
any other underage females. Did you have a webcam that
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you used or anything not gonna be one with the
desktop either. No, Mike, is there anything else that you
can think of that you want to tell me right
now concerning this situation?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I mean I had any type of thirty person like
there there's people out there. I knew I shouldn't have
came down here.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, that would you know?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
That would have probably could have been a good idea. Yes,
(34:55):
and you did say it was a a two thousand
five Pontiac.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah. I just bought and I haven't had time to
over to the licensed branches. I traded into two thousand
and three Grandam. It might still have my same It
does still have my same plate on it from three Grandam.
I just traded the car in on it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, where where did you purchase your car?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
This Zer five? Yes, Team Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Team t
E a N Yeah, Team yet Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Indiana.
It's about fifteen minutes from the house from the apartment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And you traded in a.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Two thousand and three the Grand damn se.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And you said you've not You've not changed registration. You've
not read.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I was about ready to go this week, coming up
here probably tomorrow, it's so busy with my midterms. Avenue
over there now, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Age, do you know who owned the car the two
thousand and five before you did?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I didn't find out prior owner. The dealership had possession
of them, but they sold it to me. But I
don't know who had it before.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Are you familiar with the name of No, Well, that's
the registration that the car is still coming back in. Yeah,
and you bought it when.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can't remember the exact date. It was about two
weeks ago, two weeks ago, so it was on a
on Wednesday. That it was on a Wednesday about two
weeks ago, because my wife and I were getting that
going at it. My ex wife coming on.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
All right, Sit tight, just half a second and I'll
be right back.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
H M.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Anything else that you can think of right now, Mike,
that you wanna tell me concerning this tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I mean, you guys have discovered in there that happened
all the.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Showr you know, I want to make sure that you
have every opportunity to tell your side of the story,
or explain anything that you want to explain. I'll sit
here all night with you if that's what it takes.
I don't wanna, I don't wanna cut you off.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Let's screw it up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
We've we've pretty much covered it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I knew I screwed up talking to a girl at
the age I know I'm not stupid. I don't know
fucking creed.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But alright, the time is now approximately three seventeen am.
I'll be stopping the recording at this time. Alright, Michae,
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what's gonna happen now is you got to have your
photograph made. It's gonna be done right out here in
the hallway, and then you'll be taken across the street
to the Warren County Jail and lodged. The judge will
sit bond on you on your charge. I'm not that
familiar with Bowling Green. I don't live here. I don't
(38:50):
know whether he'll do it this morning, sometime today, or
whether he'll wait and do it Monday.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I have that the term, my god, do you have
a home phone number or use use your cell my
cell my mom? If you can tell them what's your
cell number, wife number, and you want unless your wife
(39:21):
is an emergency contact number. All right, let me see
if they're ready for you out here. H Are you
(39:57):
all ready for his mugshot? M hm not yet. Okay,
they're not quite ready for you.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm damn sipper shit.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think comes apart of this pancer. God, damn, I
(41:17):
can't believe they said I ran I stood by the
door and I see him there.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I've never been tased with the dim. I tased him
before today. I never had to do that with here
when I was about the door.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
You have any la says nicknames any thing? No?
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Yeah, well now it was a guys four angry.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I like you said your laptop, that Teshiba laptop was
(46:45):
in your car? Also, yeah, okay, Uh, would you be
willing to sign a consent so they can look at
your laptop? In other words, I won't be able to
verify you say there's no you know, no child pornography
or anything on that. Uh, we'd like to to verify that.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I'm just probably about that by now.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
This just states that you're you're giving us consent to
d uh search a to Sheba laptop, satellite computer, and
given this permission to myself known to be an agent
at the Office of Attorney General, which is where the
pecking reure of investigation is or others acting on you know,
under my benefit. If you would just sign right there
(48:46):
and the same thing, print your name and your address,
(49:24):
you get it. Okay, Mike do you wanna Do you
wanna go outside and be present while your car's being searched?
You have that right if you wanna go out and
watch it.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Mike can't. It doesn't matter to man.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
Okay, David, he says he's going to be present when
he's searched.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I'm so far away, I'll probably be every well.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
God, damn, oh.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Raze, oh.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Oh, let's see if they're ready for you yet? You ready?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
You ready for him?
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:44):
If you're alright, Mike going out here, they're gonna take
your picture?
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Okay, I'm help. Were that ready? What were you gonna
do the search? Now?
Speaker 6 (55:56):
Where where were you gonna watch?
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Yes? Kay, let me let me find any wanna explain
side that I won't be taking you outside her now.
Speaker 5 (56:11):
Turning out things.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
About, no way's gonna.
Speaker 6 (56:14):
Hurt you whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (56:15):
We'll do a photo for now.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
We don't wanna hurt me. I wanna hurt you.
Speaker 8 (56:18):
Okay, Well, we're gonna treat you like how it won't
be treated. But if you try and rhyme right here,
then we have to treat a little different. I just
want clear it I before we go outside. I'm not
trying to scare you.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Nothing done good so far. Don't don't blow it now.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Okay, you've already screwed up it all on a little
sh Okay, I don't think this one. Might make sure
that we're clear it before when.
Speaker 6 (56:39):
We go outside bothered like babe, he's he won't lie
to you.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
He's gonna tell you exactly how it is.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Can't work is? Thenna throws your cuffs.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
They're the Shaff's office. Okay, I won't bring them back.
I don't know who's but they got the one kid
to share or so what the other guy? Did you
get those back to? That owned?
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Do you have a John?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (56:58):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (57:00):
I get into oh there everybody a fake Chris.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
When I finish this take, everybody starts to taking the camera.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Do you fadeth out.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
And you need a photo?
Speaker 6 (57:17):
I'll go get it now.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
What you say?
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Boys, as it's a silver grand dad, grand damn GT.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Do you want.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
I appreciate you being honest with me?
Speaker 5 (57:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:36):
There have no reason to say saying there in life?
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Well, I mean, you be surprised what people try to
tell you.
Speaker 3 (57:44):
Okay, I'm fine, I'm hurting on over leage. Why they
tell me is that I ran. Did you go anywhere?
Speaker 5 (57:53):
Man?
Speaker 6 (57:55):
It won't be much longer now they'll get those off
of you.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
What mines? I am here the way to beat against
the ground.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Okay, I'm gonna make a christure. That's interesting question, A
good one, s.
Speaker 5 (58:28):
Right, FLEs right, Yeah, what that you never.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
End oebraty well searching your doll? You would just have
a seat back in the chair.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
You got a belt on?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna hook my hand in your belt.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
Ain't nothing else? Take me down on the back, you belt?
Speaker 3 (59:32):
It is her noon?
Speaker 9 (59:36):
Back happens?
Speaker 4 (59:42):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Is it ready? What we'll get you take care of?
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Is that a broke all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
I'm not gonna leave top yess sir?
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yes, your.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Okay, that's fine though. We got it down there and
they're they're they're headed out to do the search. Alright,
thank you, brother, bye,
Jeez that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Here one more time. We're gonna coffee up front. Okay,
same admonishment.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, Kee, we're just gonna cut him up front.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, my teacher going to.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Leave this cus on, put this one on your person
on the cup.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of I got.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You said out? Did you get hurt? Hair cut on?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's yea. Oh shure, they're fine.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Stay with it.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
You got it.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I if you listen call you haven't ask what or whatever?
Why any medical tack you can see some guy?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Do you won't like it?
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Or what do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You have?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Take what at this for medical purposes? See your arms
at it?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What your arm up there?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The other ones or anything?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well that don't think so? Sure?
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Kay?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
If your sisters.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
You had a chat log or Detroit.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tad Christmas, you guys get too, sim Yes, that's us.
We got him.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
speA m.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The first sight.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Does you a person stay in there?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He can go that time. Brought your water if you
want something to drink there. Your name is Michael Patterson. Michael,
my name is Ken Gillingham, and I'm an agent with
the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation. And you're here at the
Bowling Green Police Department. I'm gonna turn on a tape
(05:28):
recorder so that we have a accurate representation of what
we talk about here tonight. Today's date is Sunday, October
twenty first, two thousand and seven. The time is now
approximately two forty five am. President, our agent Ken Gillingham
(05:48):
with the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation, and Michael Patterson. Mich Patterson.
I've talked to you, and you do know that this
tape recorder is being turned on to record our conversation. Yes,
what's your full.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Name, Michael Joseph Patterson?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
H And what's your day of birth? What's your home address?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What's your SO Security number? How tall are you?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Five eleven wait, one hundred and ninety five pounds, brown
hair and hazel blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Married, single, divorced mom going through a divorce now still
lately married?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Man, we're you employed?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well nowhere as of the weekend. Well, I worked through
through private investigation services. As a car was in my wallet.
I didn't know who that guy was that I was
talking to, and I didn't give him acurate information. I
was a police officer.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay, but are you say you I do like.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Private investigations, okay, through uh lieutenant O'Day from Hebron police lieutenant.
It's uh just put lieutenant O'Day investigation services. I just
do that part time right now because I go to
school up Purdue.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And what type of private investigations do you do?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Just confidential? You know, confidential discrete investigations.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Give me an example, cheating, cheating, span.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Insurance fraud.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Workers count frauds that so you're you're not a sworn
police officer.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I was fatibran and that went down.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What happened there, it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Was a traffic violation that violated their sp their standard
standard operating procedures. I Uh, I went out and I
had I got some blue red lights and I put
them in my car. I was thrown out a core
So they dismissed me for that, but it was thrown
out health of it was that just like a month ago,
(09:21):
about a month ago, and you have any children?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, it was all right. If I call you Michael, Mike,
what do you go by? Mike Mike? Obviously, if you've
been in law enforcement in the past, uh, you're probably
familiar with your miranda warning, your statement of rights and
(09:52):
you know that before I can ask you any questions.
I'm required to advise you of your rights, the statement
of your rights, or you may remain silent, that anything
that you say may be used against you in a
quarter or other proceedings. That you have the right to
consult an attorney before you make any statement or answer
any question, and you may have your attorney with you
(10:14):
during the questioning. You may request the court to the
point attorney for you if you cannot afford to hire one,
and you may stop the question at any time by
refusing to answer any further questions or request to consult
with your attorney. You understand those rights that I ever
read to you? Yes, okay, I would right there?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
How they did that, that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You've had the rights red togain that you understand them.
And then the second force down here is a waiver
of those rights, says having me both statement of my
rights read and explained to me and fully understanding, then
when I hereby wave these rights at the time is
now two fifty one am on October twenty first, two
(11:13):
thousand and seven. And I do this freely, involuntarily, without
the threat or promise. Do you wanna talk to me
about why you're here tonight and try to get the
bottom of this situation.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I W I don't know if i'd have my attorney
involved in Ah.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's up to you. I like to discuss with you
why you're here, but that's entirely up to you. I
discussing you will, okay, if you will, need you to
(11:56):
also sign right there? Did you get your water open?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I got them.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And one other piece of paperwork to you either the way.
Obviously you drove a vehicle down here.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I think, uh was it Caranda.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What we would like to do, Michael, is do you
have anything in the car? Weapons?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
This my one forty caliper that was this? Mike gone,
I've got my permitted. I went over to state Land.
I probably didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well. What we would like to do is get your
consent to go out there and search the vehicle. If
there's a weapon in it, we don't need to leave
it in there so they can break into it or whatever.
So we would like to get your permission to go
out there and retrieve anything out of your car that's
you're not supposed to be in there. Yeah, and your
car was brought down here at the Bow and Green
(12:55):
Police Department. It's out back.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, damn supper?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And what year is your car? You say two thousand five, yeah,
Pontiac Grandam.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, Grandam GT.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And what color is it?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
M'ss er.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Two door, four door, two door.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's the only thing I'm finding. There's that weapon, my weapon.
And I like my school bag, my black bag.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And what will be in that bag just my s
just my few school books.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Uh again, your.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Your signature right there and then your printed name and
address underneath that hoe this I won't move for you.
(15:13):
Like what's your screen name?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
John Raven? John underscore Raven two thousand, mkay?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And do you know the remember the screen name of
the female that you were chatting with online? Tatia something
Tatia underscore pet thirteen.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
When did you first start chatting online with her? Just
today today? Remember what time?
Speaker 9 (15:51):
It was?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Probably seven clocks that are on there if I.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Tell you, the log reflects about four thirty nine pm
the afternoon, a little sooner than Were you working today
when you did that or you were home? Were you
on a home computer?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
My laptop?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What type of laptop do you have?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Teshiba Satellite And it's actually in the.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Car with me your computer is in the car with yeah, okay, uh,
and you said she was salute. You have satellite service.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Satellite wireless is what it is?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And who's that service through?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I have Nutgear right there at couch that year that
YEARN E T G E A R.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And I know you had a cell phone with you
when you came into me. Did you chat on it
on the way down or did you call or talk?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't think I chatted with her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
An its instant message or anything when you went on
the way down.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think I did. I'd put like call me on there.
I think that was the only thing I try to
get hold of her with. I'd track on her and
then I couldn't get a hold over her, so I
went to trend some message on my phone and then
try getting hold of it that way.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay. Is the laptop the only computer that you have
there at your house? You don't have a desktop or I.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Have a desktop? You have a I don't even use
that thing anymore?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
What type of desktop is it?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't even know. It was middle of my wife's.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Sure, where's it located in the house.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's uh, it's right in my second my storeage room.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Sit down.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The storage room is inside your house though, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Actually the second bedroom. But we don't we don't have
anything else besides like crap in that room, all my
tools and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And and you said you were going through a divorce.
Does uh your wife still live there? Also?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
No, she's moving. She's living with her mom and dad
in Crown Point.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, any anyone else living there with you? Do you
have the animals in the house dog fish? And you
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said it's an apartment?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
How many bedrooms right in the apart? How long did
it take you to drive down here today?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Lit over five hours eleven and to have so.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That part of what you were saying out the uh
at the house was true?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah? And what wa?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What was your reason for coming down? I d I
really didn't I WA wasn't going to wasn't gonna watch
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Gonna come down here. I wad you do you probably
see on there on the conversations that I was weary
of coming down here?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What what made you come? Right? I mean you you know,
now's your time to explain your side of the situation.
I you know, I'll be frank with you. I won't
ever lie to you. And I expect the same consideration
and return. And you know, I'm gonna ask you some
(19:56):
questions that I'd like to have you answer. Why did
you come down here tonight?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
She said a blow drive or something.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, And you in your chats you talk about her
sucking your dick. Yeah, so you had intentions to to
at least have oral sex with her.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And how did she tell you that she was She said,
go on fourteen, She's gonna be fourteen February or something,
I believe, Yeah, and you you knew that wasn't right.
I knew it wasn't, But yet you came. Do you
think anything else was gonna happen after you got here?
(20:46):
Cause let nature take its course.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I was worried of coming in the house. I drove
around for a little bit. I almost didn't come in.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
M Have you chatted with other people online before like this?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No? I mean I've talked to people, have been order,
but just friends.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know. I what what about other other females. I'm
sure you've chatted with other females, don't Yeah, what what
would you say would be the next youngest person that
you've chatted with? Eighteen's youngest eighteen yeah, never would you
ever meet anyone else in person from your chats?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
One?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
How LONGO was that?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I've met her a couple of months ago. She's twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And where does she live?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
She lives in Cocoma. Well right now Logan's Sport with
her mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
In Logan Support.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, Logan Sport.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'm assuming it's Logan Sport, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, Logan Sport, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And do you remember what her screen name was?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
God, it's such a bad headache. Really hit me against
the ground.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I can't remember or what her real name is? Her
first name?
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh man, what is her name?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
When's the last time you chatted with her?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Just call she called me today? My mind as my hair.
They tased the crap out and they hit me against
the floor. I can't well, you ran, I was standing
there at the door. I don't even know. My mind's
(23:04):
not here.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Hop if she if she called you today, I mean
you had to know. Her name was chat room. That
(23:31):
was the room, Yeah, except pretty much where you usually chat.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You said it was about two months.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Ago, Yeah, pretty close.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Anyone else.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just vaguely that she was the main person I talked to.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And she the on one one that you met in person? Yeah,
and how many? How many times have you met with her?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Twice? I just met her parents the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So you went to where she was at half far
his logan's report from just.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
An hour away.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You met her parents, Mike, have you ever been any
trouble before other than what you told me earlier with
the not any of this, the policy violations and and
you like you said, traffic ticket or something that was.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
The traffic ticket that was just they didn't even turn
it in with the blue and red lights.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Back then an author as use of I wasn't supposed
to have it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
In my car, my personal car back in three I
had I had misdemeanor A stupid I'm stupid now missmeanor
a it was for theft. I got a bank card
through in the mail and it was all in my information,
(25:24):
my address and everything they get, you know, the bank,
Citizens Bank. They gave me a pin code access to
it all. I went to the ATM because I had
a savings with them, savings account, but I didn't have
a checking I thought that was for my savings, but
I got stupid when I seen the balance. I got
like twelve hundred I settled with the restitution twelve hundred
dollars from that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And so the card was actually on somebody else's account,
it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
The account number was to another person's account, but it
went all to my name and everything to my address
with the pin number on the card that had my
you know, my full name Michael Joseph pat Michael J.
Patterson on it. And that was basically and that was.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
In two thousand three. And you said two thousand what
was the what was the final results of it?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Missus mean rae? That was a plea. I completed my
probation and stuff and.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Made restitution.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, paid all that back.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Say it was about twel hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Were you on the police force then?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
No, that was I just turned twenty one, twenty one,
twenty or twenty one, and just turn How how long
were you on the police force?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just three months? I did my pre basic with Hebron Police,
my pre basic law enforcement academy. I did you had
my weapons qualifications and all that?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
How you spelling heap handcuffs H E B R O
N And what what were the dates that you were there?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
July to.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
July of O seven or.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
July o seven to the beginning of October, the end
of August or the beginning of October. Just put the
end of August. That was two months I was there.
If it was that July, Oh my mind's my hair?
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Oh God?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Obviously this is you in the picture here? Who are
Who are the other people in there with you?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
My brothers standing next to me and my sister and
then his that's my bruh younger brother. That's his girlfriend there,
my sister and my older brother.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Kay, did you bring anything else with you? Like you
(28:42):
talked about possibly bringing bringing a gift or bringing something.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I didn't. I don't even That's why when she said that,
I didn't remember what she was talking about. I didn't
say I was to.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Bring anything you You didn't tell her you were gonna
bring anything.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I don't think so I can't remember if I d
I don't think I did.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Were you planning on spending the night?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I wasn't planning for staying very long cause I had
to get up. I had to go to uh possible
do my group UH project today cause we have a
midterm presentation tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Group projects By tomorrow you mean Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Sunday like today, we were supposed to go back up
back to home and then hopefully got together with my
group to practice our group presentation for the Monday morn
tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, for what type of class?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
My communications class?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
What year are you in it? Perdue?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I'm going part time. I only have twenty credit hours,
so first year it barely be the first year freshman year,
but just barely because to get a Bashard's degree with
Perdue up there, I have to have one hundred and
forty credit hours for four years, so it's barely a
freshman year.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The desktop computer that's at your apartment, is there an
inter net service hooked up to it, or wireless card
or anything with it? You say, it's an older computer.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Man, it's an old tank clunk, Michael.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
We're gonna find on your computer when we look at it?
Is it gonna be a child pornography? No? No, no,
gonna be any adult pornography?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, there's from one of the chat rooms. I saved
one picture from maybe two from an older lady she
had in her little profile thing. It was from a
older lady. I think she was one of those bots,
you know, like a pretend person you talked to to
put that crap in their profile. So I put that
on there. I think I might have two pictures.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
What about DVDs, VHS tapes.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Anything like that at the house, like what I have
dv you know, regular DVDs that I watched movies?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right about what I'm talking about. Is any child or
adult prono nothing like that? Any drugs at your apartment?
And you said he burns a population of about three thousand.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Three thousand, that's what they said.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, where's that located.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, it's just south southeast of Crown Point about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So it's he's pretty far up up. And then yeah,
and if I understood, you're right, you came for oral sex.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That was because she spoke up. She said it, you know,
she'd if she went in mile.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, uh, she she didn't bring it up first though,
you brought it up first. Ask her if she never
had a boyfriend? H yeah, has she ever done anything
with him? Like suckers dick? Would you do me? You
(32:59):
recall those yes? Okay, speak up because obviously the tape
recorder can't see you shake your head, all right, and
you've never done this with anyone else? We're not gonna
find any any chats on your computer or anything with
any other underage females. Did you have a webcam that
(33:30):
you used or anything not gonna be one with the
desktop either. No, Mike, is there anything else that you
can think of that you want to tell me right
now concerning this situation?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I mean I had any type of thirty person like
there there's people out there. I knew I shouldn't have
came down here.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
No, that would you know?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
That would have probably could have been a good idea. Yes,
(34:55):
and you did say it was a a two thousand
five Pontiac.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah. I just bought and I haven't had time to
over to the licensed branches. I traded into two thousand
and three Grandam. It might still have my same It
does still have my same plate on it from three Grandam.
I just traded the car in on it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, where where did you purchase your car?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
This Zer five? Yes, Team Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Team t
E a N Yeah, Team yet Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Indiana.
It's about fifteen minutes from the house from the apartment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And you traded in a.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Two thousand and three the Grand damn se.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And you said you've not You've not changed registration. You've
not read.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I was about ready to go this week, coming up
here probably tomorrow, it's so busy with my midterms. Avenue
over there now, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Age, do you know who owned the car the two
thousand and five before you did?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I didn't find out prior owner. The dealership had possession
of them, but they sold it to me. But I
don't know who had it before.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Are you familiar with the name of No, Well, that's
the registration that the car is still coming back in. Yeah,
and you bought it when.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can't remember the exact date. It was about two
weeks ago, two weeks ago, so it was on a
on Wednesday. That it was on a Wednesday about two
weeks ago, because my wife and I were getting that
going at it. My ex wife coming on.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
All right, Sit tight, just half a second and I'll
be right back.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
H M.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Anything else that you can think of right now, Mike,
that you wanna tell me concerning this tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I mean, you guys have discovered in there that happened
all the.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Showr you know, I want to make sure that you
have every opportunity to tell your side of the story,
or explain anything that you want to explain. I'll sit
here all night with you if that's what it takes.
I don't wanna, I don't wanna cut you off.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Let's screw it up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
We've we've pretty much covered it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I knew I screwed up talking to a girl at
the age I know I'm not stupid. I don't know
fucking creed.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But alright, the time is now approximately three seventeen am.
I'll be stopping the recording at this time. Alright, Michae,
(38:29):
what's gonna happen now is you got to have your
photograph made. It's gonna be done right out here in
the hallway, and then you'll be taken across the street
to the Warren County Jail and lodged. The judge will
sit bond on you on your charge. I'm not that
familiar with Bowling Green. I don't live here. I don't
(38:50):
know whether he'll do it this morning, sometime today, or
whether he'll wait and do it Monday.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I have that the term, my god, do you have
a home phone number or use use your cell my
cell my mom? If you can tell them what's your
cell number, wife number, and you want unless your wife
(39:21):
is an emergency contact number. All right, let me see
if they're ready for you out here. H Are you
(39:57):
all ready for his mugshot? M hm not yet. Okay,
they're not quite ready for you.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm damn sipper shit.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think comes apart of this pancer. God, damn, I
(41:17):
can't believe they said I ran I stood by the
door and I see him there.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm lucky.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I've never been tased with the dim. I tased him
before today. I never had to do that with here
when I was about the door.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
You have any la says nicknames any thing? No?
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Yeah, well now it was a guys four angry.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I like you said your laptop, that Teshiba laptop was
(46:45):
in your car? Also, yeah, okay, Uh, would you be
willing to sign a consent so they can look at
your laptop? In other words, I won't be able to
verify you say there's no you know, no child pornography
or anything on that. Uh, we'd like to to verify that.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
I'm just probably about that by now.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
This just states that you're you're giving us consent to
d uh search a to Sheba laptop, satellite computer, and
given this permission to myself known to be an agent
at the Office of Attorney General, which is where the
pecking reure of investigation is or others acting on you know,
under my benefit. If you would just sign right there
(48:46):
and the same thing, print your name and your address,
(49:24):
you get it. Okay, Mike do you wanna Do you
wanna go outside and be present while your car's being searched?
You have that right if you wanna go out and
watch it.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Mike can't. It doesn't matter to man.
Speaker 6 (49:40):
Okay, David, he says he's going to be present when
he's searched.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I'm so far away, I'll probably be every well.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
God, damn, oh.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Raze, oh.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Oh, let's see if they're ready for you yet? You ready?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
You ready for him?
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:44):
If you're alright, Mike going out here, they're gonna take
your picture?
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Okay, I'm help. Were that ready? What were you gonna
do the search? Now?
Speaker 6 (55:56):
Where where were you gonna watch?
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Yes? Kay, let me let me find any wanna explain
side that I won't be taking you outside her now.
Speaker 5 (56:11):
Turning out things.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
About, no way's gonna.
Speaker 6 (56:14):
Hurt you whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (56:15):
We'll do a photo for now.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
We don't wanna hurt me. I wanna hurt you.
Speaker 8 (56:18):
Okay, Well, we're gonna treat you like how it won't
be treated. But if you try and rhyme right here,
then we have to treat a little different. I just
want clear it I before we go outside. I'm not
trying to scare you.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Nothing done good so far. Don't don't blow it now.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Okay, you've already screwed up it all on a little
sh Okay, I don't think this one. Might make sure
that we're clear it before when.
Speaker 6 (56:39):
We go outside bothered like babe, he's he won't lie
to you.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
He's gonna tell you exactly how it is.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Can't work is? Thenna throws your cuffs.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
They're the Shaff's office. Okay, I won't bring them back.
I don't know who's but they got the one kid
to share or so what the other guy? Did you
get those back to? That owned?
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Do you have a John?
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (56:58):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (57:00):
I get into oh there everybody a fake Chris.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
When I finish this take, everybody starts to taking the camera.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Do you fadeth out.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
And you need a photo?
Speaker 6 (57:17):
I'll go get it now.
Speaker 4 (57:19):
What you say?
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Boys, as it's a silver grand dad, grand damn GT.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Do you want.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
I appreciate you being honest with me?
Speaker 5 (57:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (57:36):
There have no reason to say saying there in life?
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Well, I mean, you be surprised what people try to
tell you.
Speaker 3 (57:44):
Okay, I'm fine, I'm hurting on over leage. Why they
tell me is that I ran. Did you go anywhere?
Speaker 5 (57:53):
Man?
Speaker 6 (57:55):
It won't be much longer now they'll get those off
of you.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
What mines? I am here the way to beat against
the ground.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Okay, I'm gonna make a christure. That's interesting question, A
good one, s.
Speaker 5 (58:28):
Right, FLEs right, Yeah, what that you never.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
End oebraty well searching your doll? You would just have
a seat back in the chair.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
You got a belt on?
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna hook my hand in your belt.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
Ain't nothing else? Take me down on the back, you belt?
Speaker 3 (59:32):
It is her noon?
Speaker 9 (59:36):
Back happens?
Speaker 4 (59:42):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Is it ready? What we'll get you take care of?
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Is that a broke all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
I'm not gonna leave top yess sir?
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yes, your.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Okay, that's fine though. We got it down there and
they're they're they're headed out to do the search. Alright,
thank you, brother, bye,
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