Day 1 - Prosecution Opening Statement

Day 1, Prosecution Opening Statement

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mister Martinez, good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Again, this is not in case of who've done it.
The person who've done it, the person who committed this
killer sits in court today. That's the defendant, Jodi and Arians.
And the person that she'd done it to was an
individual by the name of Travis Victor Alexander, a former

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boyfriend of hers, an individual that she was in love with,
an individual that was a good man, an individual that
was one of the greatest blessings in her life.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And this love, well, she.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Rewarded that love for Travis Victor Alexander by sticking a
knife in his chest. And you know, he was a
good man according to her, And with regard to being
a good man, well.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
She slid his throat as a reward for being a
good man.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And in terms of these bless well, she knocked the
blessings out of him by putting.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
A bullet in his head. During one.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Bet that occurred on June fourth of two thousand and eight,
Travis Alexander had the misfortune of meeting up with the
defendant in Las Vegas, Nevada, at the MGM Grand Back
in September of two thousand and six. They were both
involved with a group called PPL or Prepay the Illegal,

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And basically what this organization did is they went out
and they sold units, if you will, And basically it
was a situation where people would buy these units and
they would be covered or legal purposes should the need arise.
And they met, as I said, in September of two
thousand and six, and after the meeting, it is true

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that mister Alexander began to have contact with the defendant
and he began starting to pursue her.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
But it is also true, or.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
An indication anyway, that initially he was mostly interested in
converting her to the Mormon faith.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
You say he was a Mormon, he had also been
a Mormon for some time.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
And one of the few first things that he did
when he began to talk to her initially is that
he gave.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Her the Book of Mormon.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And a lot of the time that they had was
spent on reading this Book of Mormon talking about it,
and so that their religious relationship progressed to a point,
and it was a very rapid religious relationship. That it
progressed to the point that in November, approximately two months later,

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in November of two thousand and six, the defendant chose
to become a Mormon, and she the process that you're
wanted to go to do that is you become baptized.
And so she was baptized in November of two thousand
and six, and the person that she chose to baptize
her was.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
None other than Travis Ali, then person that she had.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Met up with, the person who had introduced her to
this faith, and the person that she was beginning to
get closer with. And so their relationship progressed after that point,
and it became a much more personal relationship. Now there
were both Mormons, and there are certain guidelines from Mormons
that you'll hear about specifically. One of them is that

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there's enough to be any sexual contact before marriage. That's
considered a very large sin, and I guess in the
grand scheme of things, that's one of the sins that.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You needed to avoid.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But their relationship beginning to progress, and it was a
very personal.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Relationship at that time.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
As their relationship progressed, the defendant was not living in
the Arizona area. In fact, she lived in the Palm
Spring area of California.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And so it was sort of like a long distance relationship.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They called each other, they would send text messages, they
would email each other, and so their relationship blossomed that way,
and occasionally they would see each other. They would either
they would you would drive out there, or they would
somehow me Well, by February of two thousand and seven,

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they became sort of an item. They agreed to just
continue dating each other, just to see each other and
not anybody else.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And as part of that, one of the things that happened.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Is that they both did what is not expected but
what usually can be expected to happen between two young people.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
They began to engage in sexual relations.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And obviously that is against the Mormon fail and it
provided conflict for both of them that here they were sinning,
if you will, all the time whenever they would get together,
and yet professing to be.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Good Mormons on the their head.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
But that's sort of how their relationship was at that point. Well,
they continued this relationship for about five months, from February
two thousand and seven to about June of two thousand
and seven, and in June, to be exact, using her
eye telling June twenty nine of two thousand and seven,

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the defendant couldn't help herself. She's a Snoop just couldn't
help herself. And what she did is she went and
looked into got hold of mister Alexander's phone. Is CELLI
over your telephone, and she wanted to see what was
in there. Couldn't stop herself from doing that, and so
she goes and looks at itself only in June of

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two thousand and seven, and she's looking for things to
see whether or not there's going to be any contact
with any other women. She describes them as being flirtatious,
and she wanted to know what.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Was going on and wanted to see if.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
There was anything in that cell phone that would firm
her suspicions about his flirtations. And she found things there
that she didn't like. But it was her going into
his cell phone, Snooping. She did it surreptitiously. She did
it without his knowledge because she wanted to know. She
just couldn't help herself, and so she looks in there

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and finds things that she doesn't want her and at
that point they break up.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's June twenty nine of two thousand and sad.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And remember at that time, she's still living in southern California.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
In the Palm Spring area.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
After they broke up, you would expect that perhaps the
emails would end.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You would expect that perhaps the.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Text messages would end, and maybe that the calls would attendure.
But just the opposite happens, because instead of staying there
in southern California, or perhaps moving to where she was
originally from, which is why rekat California, which is on
the or in California Ward, instead of going there after

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this breakup in June of two thousand and seven, what
does the defendant do?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
She moves to Masa. She moves to Mesa.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
She can be closer to him, this individual that she
does not trust, this individual whose phone she's gone and
looked into, and this.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Individual who she's just broken up. What does she do,
Let's go to Mesa.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Not only does she move to Mesa, but she moves
to an area that's very close to his and she
is not in the same ward, but she does move
to an area that's very close to where he is.
And of course the relationship continues. They continue to talk,
they continue to text message each other, they continue the emails,

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and oh yes, they continue the sexual liaisons because.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
She moved here.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, this continues on for some time, but mister Alexander
by this point appears to be ready to move on,
or at least he appears to be ready to date
other people. And in fact, he starts dating somebody by
Holy Sa Andrews, and there may have been others that
he started to date, but at that point there was

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no relationship between him and the defendant other than this
constant contact and this sexual relationship between the two, this
relationship that was facilitated, this sexual relationship that was facilitated
by her move to the Mesa area. Well, this continues
for some time until April of two thousand and eight,

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So in June of two thousand and seven she moves here,
and were fast forward to April of two thousand and
eight when finally the relationship seems to have broad its course.
It seems to have run its course because the defendant
has finally decided to move to.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Where her hometown has, a small town.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
By the name of Guirka, California, and again it's about
one thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Away from Masa.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And what she does before she leaves is she spends
about a week with mister Alexander, and yes, according to her,
they do have sexual intercourse and continues that course of conduct,
and she runts a U haul and there's an agreement
between the two of them involving mister Alexander's automobile, a BMW,

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and basically he gives it to her, but not really
giving in the sense that she has to pay him,
and she has to pay him an undetermined amount of
money per month for this BMW, that is, he actually
been buys a Prius, a black Prius. And so in
early April of two thousand and eight, she loads up

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that U haul her mother may have come out here,
but a left before that, and then straps the BMW behind.
It doesn't get very before there's a problem. The BMW
starts leaking oil and all these kinds of things because.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
She left it in her scaring cannot be told.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So now the BMW is destroyed and it goes to
some sort of shock, but.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
She leaves it.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
But she's still basically going to pay for that BMW
because she's the individual that was in control of it.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But that's still sort of up in the air about that. Well,
you would have thought that.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Once she moved to wuy Rica, which is approximately one
thousand miles away, you would have thought that their relationship
would have been over.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, it wasn't over. They continued to talk, they continued to.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Send text messages, emails, incidant messaging, messaging and oh yes,
there's the phone sex that she records of Ben when
they are engaged in that particular conduct. And it's the
phone sex that she keeps well. Two short months after

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that April of two thousand and eight, when she moved
to Wuyrika. In June ninth of two thousand and eight,
the police get a nine one one call. The Mesa
police department receives a nine one one call and the
person on calling on the other line is an individual
by the name of Marie Paul.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And Marie Hall is.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
An individual that mister Alexander has taken an interest in.
She is somebody that is very much in the baby.
She's somebody that is in his singles ward so that
they go and they sit around and they socialize and
they talk about Mormon doctrine. And so she's somebody that
he feels much affinity to. And he starts to court her.

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And again this is when the defendant is already in Wyrika.
He begins to look at her and the relationship with
Lisa Andrews is now over, and so he begins to
take her out. There's a total of three dates that
they go on. But for her, there's really no spark there.
She's not interested in the slightest on him. Not only

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is she not interested in the slightest in him, she
lets him know about it. It's not like she's going
to sit there and just continue to go out with
him and hang out and that sort of thing. Now
they go out one time, they go back to a
bookstore and they drink hot chocolate. There's no contact at all.
There's not even the sometimes what is considered the obligatory

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good night kiss.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
There's none of that. And she lets him know, I'm
just not interested in you.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
And in fact, she starts to date somebody else after
she breaks up with that person. Mister Alexamber feels that
perhaps there's a chance with him, and so they go
out one more time and they go to a craft
kind of thing where they put a pot together, that's
kind of thing, or they go rock climbing. That's the
extent of their dating relationship. He's interested, she has not that.

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There's never any physical contact. Mister Alexander has is a
free trip to can Kun. This organization is prepaid legal
that he's involved in, has given him, along with other
people with the PPL, a trip to can Kun and
he's allowed to take somebody with him. And so he

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approaches this Marie or Mimi Paul about going with him
to cankuon she says, no, I really don't want to
go because I don't want you to believe that there's
something going on between us.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I really don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
But he tells her that that's not how it is.
They're going to go as friends. In fact, they're even
going to be in different bedrooms. So it's a situation
where she's been to Cancun before, she wants to go.
It was fun, so she doesn't see any harm in going.
And so the trip that they're.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Supposed to go on is supposed to start on the.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Tenth of June, and so she's the one that's on
the phone on June ninth, and she hasn't spoken to
mister Alexander for about a week since June second, which
is a Monday, and it's strange to her because the
trip is impending and he usually would call her every

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day or send text messages or maybe email her. So
it was strange that he hadn't called her, but she
really didn't think anything of it, you know, since they
were only going to go as friends. What's the big deal, right,
And so when she doesn't hear from him up until
the night before they're to go, which is the ninth,
which is a Tuesday on Monday, one of the things

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she does is she goes over on that Monday night
and when she goes over there, she goes and knocks
on the door, and she knocks on.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
The door very very hard. Well, nobody answers. The only
thing that she sees is the dog.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
The dog and Polian, which is mister Alexander's dog, comes
up to the door and just sort of throwing himself
up on the door very excitedly.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
And she can tell them that there's something.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Wrong there, but nobody answers the door, and she doesn't
know how to get in.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Now there's four of them.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
There's meming All, her girlfriend, and these two other individuals,
two men. They opened the door, and when they opened
the door of Marie hall S fades behind and the
two men go inside. But she's able to see through
the crack all this blood that's in the hallway, and
the two individuals come out running excitedly and saying, there's
blood here, and that's Travis.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
He's in the shower. He's dead.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
And that's the reason that Marie Hall was on the
telephone that evening of June ninth, two thousand and eight,
calling the police to let him know that the person
that she was going to do the CanCon with the
next day, this friend, the firstman the church, Travis Alexander,
was dead.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, of course the police responded and one of the things.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
That they were able to know, and I do have
a uh diagram that then you can fall closer what
I'm saying, what't you?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I told you that? And this is exhibit come fer
two forty nine. I told you that Murray.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Hall and her friends went to this door and this
is the door.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
As you can see.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
There looking there, that's a big red spot and there
was lots of blood that you could also see here.
And of course the body is found on the lower
ride hand corner in the shower.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Wasn't standing, it wasn't anything. It was all just sort
of punched in.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
And one of the things that struck the investigators when
they first went in there and they started looking at
this is that the scene had been staged.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
It had been man manipulated. Whoever had been the.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Killer of this scene had manipulated that scene, and the
police knew that that scene had been manipulated, first of
all by where the body was found. The body was
found inside the shower, and the killing had obviously taken
place somewhere else, because they were blood all around the
bottom here in the sun important part right there on

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the sink. It is clear that the victim had stood
over that and bled, and in fact down here it
was also clear that he had bled there, and there
were some drag haawks down that hallway, So somebody had
taken the time to manipulate stage, changed the appearance of
the scene by placing the body there. The other thing

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that was notable about the staging of the scene was
that who ever had done this killing had also taken
the time to wash the body down.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And it appeared that the person who had done.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
This actually washed the body down with this big cut,
had taken it and poured it all over the body,
so that basically there was almost no blood on the body.
There was just bloated from decomposition, but the area here,
the cut that they were subsequently going to see, there
was no real blood anywhere, so it was clear that

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somebody had cleaned him up such that whatever evidence was
there is not going to be there anymore because the
body had been washed. The other thing that they noted
was that if this body is in such a bad condition,
there was no knife there, and peer there were cuts
and appears there was a shot, and the gun wasn't

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there either, So somebody had.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Also removed those from.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
The scene, had taken the time, had thought this out
enough to say I'm going to take the gun and
I'm going to take the knife away. Additionally, with the
person had done was that they had taken possibly and
it's consistent with the glass, had taken the glass and it.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Had just poured water oh way this area because boxes
that were on the ground level in this closet area
here were actually soaked in water and blood.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
And additionally, what they were able to see was that down.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Here this big, large, massive blood were the forty five
on there well that also had a lot of water
in it that was diluted blood.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Somebody had taken the time to actually try to clean that,
not only that the items have been moved. For example,
there was.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
A scale and the scale underneath it had drops of
blood that somebody had somehow the blood had gotten there.
The scale had been turned over the mat the same thing.
There was blood underneath. So somebody had taken a considerable
amount of time, however much time that would be the
stage that part of the scene. But they run through

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with that part of the staging of the scene because
what they ended up doing is they took and there
was a imagine set of towels there. What they did
is they took one of the towels and began to
wipe the area there. We don't know exactly what area
was wiped down, but the towel is red and has
this reddish substance to it.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Not only did they.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Wipe it down with that towel, but they took all
of the bed from this king's sized bed and they
took that along with this towel and walked it.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Downstairs to that washer as you walk in, and stuck
it in it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And one was also noted notable for the police in
terms of what was staged and what was manipulated.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Was that here in this closet and.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
In this bedroom where the bed was that had not
been manipulated. In other words, there was no blood there,
but the covers had been taken anything that was all
ever happened taken and placed into that washing machine.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
There were also some of the victim's clothing that was
in that washing machine.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And also, interestingly enough, in that washing machine downstairs was
a camera and his camera, unfortunately, had been put through
the wash and as everybody that's familiar with the washing,
that's not a very gentle sort of process, and the
camera was destroyed. It was all messed up. It would
never take any pictures again. So that's what one of

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the things that confronted or that the police were.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Able to see.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
The other thing that they were able to find came
from the body things that they needed to know, and
one of the things that they noted from that was
that this was a very violent attack that took some time.
The reason that it was a very violent attack is
that there were three ways that he was killed.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Wasn't just one shot, it was more than that.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
And what the medical examiner was able to find was
his name's Kevin Horn, was that there was a stab
to the heart area that was not immediately or rapidly fatal.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
And what that means is he's stabbed and he still lives.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
He still can walk, he can still stand, he can
still grab, he can still speak. That's not immediately fatal,
and it's not rapidly fatal.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
The other thing that.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Being medical examiner found, but it would kill him the
stab to the park. The other thing that the medical
examiner found was that his throat was slipped from ear
to ear, and that one was rapidly fatal, which means
it would have killed him very quickly because of the
blood loss. Not only would it have killed it very quickly,

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but he would not have gain or had consciousness for
a very long period of time. He would almost immediately
have lapsed into unconsciousness.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
So to the throat well, and.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
The one to the head well again, since that evolved
the brain and although the body was decomposed, according to
the medical examiner, that one was also rapidly fatal, and additionally,
he would lose consciousness immediately. Based on that, and based
on the fact that mister Alexander in his hands had

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what the medical examiner is going to term as defensive ones.
In other words, mister Alexander did not die calmly. He thought,
whoever this person was that had killed him, he had thought,
which meant that he was conscious at the time. So
what that meant is that with regard to the injuries

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that were inflicted. According to the medical examiner, the first
injury was the line to the heart, and when that
was inflicted, mister Alexander at some point began to fight,
and what he was able to do was grab the knife,
but he grabbed the blade of the knife so that
he cast coss in his hand as he's fighting, presumably

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for his life.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
They're called defensive words. And given that there was a
lot over the sink that we have over here, and.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That the sink is waste level, and that blood is
coming down from a source, mister Alexander was.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Able to get out from where.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
He was sand at this point, go over to the sink,
stand there and bleed.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
But those aren't the only wounds that he has.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
He had a grouping of wounds back here behind his neck,
on his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
He had someone his head, he said, someone his ears.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
He had some year too, and by here I mean
his front torso area.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So the first hit, if you will, was to.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
The herd area and he was walking around, he was
grabbing the knife. He was trying to defend himself. Then
that's why they call him defensive one. Given the blood
spatter patterns. He ended up over here where the forty
five was, and he when he ended up there, that's
when his throat was slick and he was still alive.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And he you know that because of the amount of
blood that was there.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So whoever had done it basically followed him around, gone
to that where that forty five is, went to finish
him off and cut his throat, but.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
They went through him. They did this individual.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Then Kinder dragged him this one for the area of
the sink and in that area of the scene where
that number one is right in that general area, and
according to the medical disameter, by that time it was
probably most like a dead. Finished the job as if

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it needed to be finished, because the first one, even
though it wasn't rapidly failed, was going to be failed.
Second one for sure was totally failed. The third one
well took a shot, stuck it in his temple, and
then the body was at that point more like it
than that dead. So mister Alexander, that probably didn't feel

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that way. You know and you'll see is that there's
a number one here. One of the things that was
there was a twenty five caliber casing, which means that
the gun that was used was a twenty five caliber.
Even though the police were not able to recover the gun, they.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Know that it was a twenty five caliber handtack, so
that's what they had in this particular area. But you
can have all of that.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You now know that it was mister Alexander, you now
know how he died, but you really don't.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Know the time.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
You haven't narrowed that down, and quite frankly, you don't
know the identity one of the most important things of
the person who may have done.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
This, and so police were kind of left there to gas.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
And you can lift all of the fingerprints you want
in the world, but if you don't have anybody to
compare that to, you're not going to know who the
person was. And you can get all of the blood
and DNA samples that you want, sal about any biological
substance that you want, but if you don't have it
to compare it to ann sample, that really doesn't get
you any nearer to solving this crime. To find out

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who the person was that had actually killed this individual. Well,
the police then went down to downstairs and they found
this camera and as I told you, this camera was destroyed.
But one of the things that they were able to
do is they were able to take out very small item.
It's a SIM card which is really the brain of

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the camera. And this camera had been recently purchased by
mister Alexander. He had bought it between April of two
thousand and eight and is killing because according to the defendant,
she actually advised him via the phone while he was
making this purchase of this camera so that he would
get a really good Well, this really good camera was

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in the washer.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
It was destroyed. It wasn't going to take any pictures anymore.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
So the police really seem to have nothing except the
SIM card.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And the SIM card has gotten wet, it has gone.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Through the cycle, and so what ends up happens you
can just pa what ends up happening is that they
get this SIM card and with this sim card they
are able to find and that you're going to use
here the term end case, they're able to put it
through this process so that even though not only has

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it been damaged, but in this this.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Camera somebody has gone through and.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Erased everything, so that not only is the camera damaged physically,
but the person who had at last, whoever that may be,
has erased everything. But the police are able to recover
using this end case program.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Three sets of photographs, and the first.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Set of photographs is in the early afternoon, and it's.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
A group of six photographs.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And these photographs are dated June fourth, two thousand and eight,
and they have times from them, and they have time
to the second and what they're able to see that
on June fourth, at and fifty three seconds, mister Alexander

(29:38):
was very much alive. Not only was he very much aligned,
he was involved in these photographs with a woman.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
And yes.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
They were both sinning because they were going at it.
They were dude, and yes they are engaged in sexual
relations in these photograph. The photograph is at one forty
two fifty three pm. The police are able to go
in there and get that photograph.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
And this shows a frontal view of a woman.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Then there's another photograph at one forty four pm and
it shows this woman's back in and they're new they're
just taking photographs.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
At one four.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Fifty pm, there's a photograph of the victim and clearly
he's excited. But there's also on there a bottle of ky,
which is a personal lubricant that's used during sex, and
we know that it was the defendant who introduced mister
Alexander to the use of this Kwe well, the other

(30:49):
thing is that we also at one forty seven fifteen
there's another view of the defendant, and then there are
two other photographs that you really can't tell the time,
but certainly they are of the defendant.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So there's a total of four photographs.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Of the defendant and two of mister Alexander, and they're
both both of them are very much alive. And yes,
these are salacious photographs in the sense that what they
are doing is what happens behind closed doors. But there
is no legal prohibition against her driving or coming over
to his house and having sex. There's no prohibition about that.

(31:33):
There's no prohibition against mister Alexander having.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Sex either, but that's what they find.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
They find him with a woman having sex on June
fourth of two thousand and eight, very much alive. Both
of them sin and if you will, well, that still
doesn't get you any near to solving this crime, because
at least.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know that he was alive on June fourth. And
as they look at those photographs, they're able to make
a determination.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Or able to see that actually the person in that
photograph is somebody that people know, and it's.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
An individual by the name of Jody Arias.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
But you know, photographs can be a little blurry, they
can be a little deceptive.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You kind of want to be sure if that's the person.
And so what they do is on this hallway.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
And you'll see it as number seventy seven, they were
able to find a pomprint, left palm print, and that
is a mixture.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's a DNA mixture, but it's a pom print, and
they're able to.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Compare it to the known photograph of Jody Ann Areas
and she's left handed, and that's her pom print that's
on them. So now they have a photograph of what
they believe is her, plus they have this pomprint and
they've developed a DNA profile from there that that just
her DNA profile.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Then also on the whole here at number.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Six down here towards the bottom right, there's the RP
and the sixth they find a hair and they conduct
DNA analysis on a hair and the profile that is
developed so that DNA analysis matches the profile of the defendant.
So the police are now sure that the person in
those photographs is the defendant.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And it's June fourth of two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Again, it's nice to know that, and they're getting close,
and it appears, because of all of love that's.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
There, that she's.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
The person that committed this horrible crime, that committed this
horrible killing. This second set of photographs is twenty photographs
and they are all of mister Alexander, and presumably because
she's the one that's in the photograph with him, and
they're not out of photographs, in other words, he's not
taken on himself, it appears that she's the one that's

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taken up these photographs of him in the shower, and
they're on June fourth, two thousand and eight, at five
two twenty four. They were engaged in these zachts at
one forty five, but now at at five twenty two
twenty four, he's in the shower and he's posing for
the person who's taking these photographs, and there's many poses

(34:17):
of the water running down him, and most of them
are from the waist up, so there's no genitalia that
is being shown during these photographs.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
But the twentieth photograph.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Shows him sitting in this shower and you do see
the lower right quadrant of his posterior and that photograph
was taken at five thirty thirty, so he was in
the shower for approximately eight minutes. With these photographs who

(34:51):
being taken, Well, that again starts to narrow it down.
And there's finally a third set of photographs, and these
are accidental photographs. These are inadvertent photographs. These are photographs
that the killer did not want taken. And the first

(35:14):
one of those is forty four seconds, taken forty four
seconds after the photograph of mister Alexander's postereo in the shower,
and that's taken at five thirty one fourteen. I'm sorry, dad, Yes,
that is taken at five thirty one fourteen, So it's
forty four seconds after the last photograph of the shower.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
And this is, if you will, a photograph of movement.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
And the reason that I say it's a photograph of
movement is because it's taken where it's consistent with being
taken from the waist. The camera is straight up. Now
that we're just not upside down. It's not to the side,
straight up. But the photograph is a picture of the
lights above the shower, and it's nothing more than movement.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But that's when the attack is happening, and.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's when mister Alexander is being attacked by this individual.
The next inadvertent photograph is at five thirty two sixteen,
one minute and two seconds later, and that photograph is
saying right here near that forty five, and it's another

(36:26):
inadvertent photograph. And this photograph is consistent with the camera
being taken off from the shoulder the lanyard that's around
it and falling. But the camera is actually on the
ground now and upside down, so this photograph is upside down.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
All the other photographs have been right side up, which
is consistent.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
With the camera falling here, striking the click or striking
the ship the button and taking a photograph.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
And you do see the learned this one. You see
this individual's here. You see your foot. Not only you
see your.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Foot, but you see mister Alexander's head, You see his arm,
you see him bleeding profusely.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
You see the area of the thing down here, and
you know what else you see.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You see her manipulating him, trying to drag him or
move him. And we know she moved it because he
ends up in the shower, so we do know that
he's here for sure. Well, she begins to tug pull
him towards the shower, and there's another photograph that's inadvert

(37:43):
taken a minute and sixteen seconds later at five thirty
three thirty two. And this photograph again is upside down
when it's found, so the camera had not been moved
apparently from the previous photo. And this one is consistent
with somebody stepping on the camera and they're being.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
A photo that it's taken.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And on this one, what you do see is the
shoulder the mister Alexander. You see the trim, and it's
a little bit further down.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
It's all. It's this person that's in fort here today
drags him down in this direction.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So the police now know what happened. They know that
on June fourth of two thousand and eight, starting around
in the afternoon, sometime after one o'clock, the defendant is
there with mister Alexander, even though they're broken up, even
though she's in way Rica somehow she's there in his

(38:55):
house in Mesa, Arizona.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
They know that they engage in what is.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Clearly one of the normal things of our species, and
that sexual intercourse they enjoyed themselves. Yes, from a religious perspective,
both of them were sinning.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
But she's there. She's there from way Rika. She took
one thousand miles to get to that sinin.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Then we know that at five point thirty ish later on,
he's in the shower. They know that whatever's going on,
his defenses are down.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
He's very comfortable.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
We also know that that as he sat there, she
took the knife and began to stab him when he
was in that defenseless sitting position, and began stuffed the
knife in his chest.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He struggled, he grabbed.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
The knife, and when he grabbed the knife, of course
that resulted in more blood. But since he's not going
to die immediately, he's going to die from a loss
of blood and he hasn't lost consciousness, he began to
go around the bathroom and ends up at the sink
huntst over. We know that he receives a lot of
stab wounds of the back end their grouped and also

(40:07):
to his head. We know that he was stationary at
that point when he gets to that sink, so we
don't know exactly where, but it could be it's consistent
with him then being stamped at that point as he
continues to bleed out, and this bleeding out process is
not immediate.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
He can speak, he can talk. Blood may be flowing
from his mouth, but he can.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Still make noises, he can still move until he starts
to lose strength. We know that we can say at
least that it's consistent with him then trying to get away,
and he got as far as here the entrant to
the major part of the bedroom, and we know that
because of the photographs that we have, and we also

(40:54):
know because of the big blatchable that that's there and
that's where the slitting year took place.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
He was still alive at that point.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's why there's so much blood, Because when you die,
the medical examiner will tell you you can do whatever
you want to the body, but if you're already dead,
there's not going to be this spurting of blood.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
There's not going to be this blood that's out there.
So he was still alive.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Then we also know that that is a rapidly mortal wound,
and in light of the fact that he was already bleeding, he.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Was more likely than not dead at that point.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
And by the time she was dragging him down, pulling
him down towards this area right here, he didn't need
that shot to the head, but she had a gun somewhere.
She got that gun. We don't know the distance, and
part of the reason we don't know the distance is
because the body's decomposed. But do know that she put

(41:51):
that bullet right in his temple, and that also would
have been rapidly fatal. That injury would have also read.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Her camera unconscious.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So after that she took that camera, and so, knowing
what was on there, and you know how difficult it
is to deal with these cameras, she was able to
go through the process and.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Delete it all of the photograph.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
She took time to drag put him in the shower,
clean him up, doing away with whatever evidence may be
on there. Clean the area there, you know, though it's
still very bloody. Took a towel to clean up. Walk downstairs.
Remember he's got this dog, Napoleon there. Walked downstairs, went

(42:42):
to the washing machine, stuck everything in the washing machine
and had wherewith to start it and put the camera.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
In there after she deleted all of those photographs.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Police knew that that's who she was, but they had
something else that they needed to deal with, because, as
I told you, this happened on June fourth, it was
a Wednesday. The body wasn't discovered toil Monday, the ninth
of June.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
On the tenth of June.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Which is when, since everything happened at night, the investigation
really took off. On the tent, Detective step On Floris
Steve Flores of the Mesa Police Department received a telephone
call from somebody wanting to help person here, pulled him up,
wanted to help him out, and started to talk about

(43:38):
how their relationship with Travis Alexander, how she was in Guarika,
California at this time this happened. Could not have had
anything to do with this at all. She She was.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Asked, well, you know, does mister Alexander have any guns?
Oh no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Mister Ali in her has no guns whatsoever. All he
could do to do for him to defend himself, he had.
All he had was his fist. How about knives? Did
he have any knives? Oh no, no, no, no knives.
Oh on not mister Alexander. He didn't have any of
that that traps. So she's telling them he didn't have
a gun there, so that the killers, whenever they were,

(44:20):
according to her, bottom them with them. The other thing
that she says is that, well, you may want to
start looking.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
She gives him a gives him a lead. You may
want to start looking at one of his roommates, a
guy by the last name of Brown, Thomas Brown.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
That's who you really need to look at, because you know,
if you're really looking for it. Oh, that's the person
who you may want to look at.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Because I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
According to her, the last time she was there was
in April of two thousand and eight, So how could
it be her since this happened on June fourth, two
thousand and eight, so it really couldn't have been her.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Well at that time.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Of course, the police know they've seen photographs. They already
know they got frank.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Prints there, so they know that that perhaps isn't the truth. Well,
they know it isn't the truth. It's not a perhaps proposition.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
This detective keeps talking to her and she says, you know,
it really wasn't me, I didn't have anything to do
with it, and describes this relationship that she had with
mister Alexander. The police need to do something with that
because she has made it a point of saying she
wasn't there, I couldn't have possibly been there, And so

(45:36):
they start looking.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Further at a possibility where she was and that sort
of thing.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And one of the things that they're able to discover
is that a week before this killing on June fourth,
two thousand and eight, on May twenty eight, two thousand
and eight, there was a burglary report seemingly unrelated to
this case. There was a burglary report up in Wayrika, California,
where she was May twenty eight, two thousand and eight,

(46:04):
and the burglary the police responded sometime around three thirty
in the afternoon of May twenty eighth, which was about
a week before mister Alexander was killed, and they responded
to a house on Pine Street, the house where the
defendant was living back on May twenty eight of two
thousand and eight, and police did talk to the defendant

(46:27):
about it, and there were items that were taken during
this burglary. But according to the officer that responded Kevin
Friedman the Huyrika Police Department. Well, you know, something not
right about this burglary. I mean maybe the entry there
was a.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Little bit of a problem. It was just like people
were very careful how they entered. They opened the drawers,
but you know, there.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Were items that clearly were of value that they didn't.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Take, and well, it just didn't seem quite right.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
When he went there, there were two people there that grandparents,
but the defendant wasn't there. She was called and showed
up and indicated that she had been the last person
there and had been there as late as approximately one PM.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
And the burglary was.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Reported sometime around three thirty, so it happened between one
and three thirty pm. And the defendant reported, oh, yes, yes,
there was some items that were taking a bar. There
was a twenty dollar bill and a ten dollar bill,
so there was thirty dollars that were taking a bike.
And you know, luckily for me, before I left, I

(47:32):
was able to hide my laptop.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Underneath some dirty clothing.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
So just in case somebody came in and you know,
wanted to steal stuff. They didn't take my laptop, and
thank god I did that because they didn't take my laptop. Well,
those were some of the things that were taken and
some of the things that were taken, But one of
the things that was taken was a twenty five caliber
handgun belonging to the grandfather.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
And this is just a week before the killing.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
This is and it matched in the sense that it's
the same caliber, the twenty five caliber casing that is labeled.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Number one that is found by the sink.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well, the police looked at that and knew that there
was a time, it was very close in time.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
The other thing that.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Police were able to find was that on that same day,
May twenty eight of two thousand and eight, at nine
to twenty five pm, the defendant sent an email, and
she sent an email to Travis Alexander and she mentions
that he's going to can Kun. That's the first mention
there is in any of their correspondents, whether it be

(48:43):
text messaging, whether it be emails or instant messaging of cankon.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
He indicates that she knows that he's going to Cancun.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
It is cleared out that he's going to Cancun and
she ain't going with him.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
So that's something that they had.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
The other thing that they start looking around and they're
able to find is that the defendant on.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
June second, which is two.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Days before the killing, actually went from Wayrika, California, to Redding, California,
which is maybe one to two.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Hours away south. And she went south for the purpose
of renting a car.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
They have car rental agencies in Wayrika, but she actually
went to a different town that's approximately ninety miles away,
and she went to a budget rented cotton and she
spoke to the agent there and one of the things
that she was able.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
To do is rent a car. But again it was
not in her town and it was in a place
that's far away.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
And the person who rented the car to her, well,
he was shown the photographic lineup and he said and
asked whether or not he saw the person that he
rented the car to. He said, oh, yeah, there she
has right there, the defendant. She said, but you know
the photograph that you're showing me, she's got black hair.
When she came to rent the car from me, she

(50:12):
had she was a bar so you know, it's the
same girl.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I'm sure of that. But her hair car changed.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Her hair color changed from June second to June fourth.
In the afternoon when she was having sex with mister Alexander.
So we know that from the photographs. And she rented
the car and said she was going to return it
on June sixth of two thousand and eight, and in fact,
she returned it on June seventh of two thousand and eight,

(50:43):
and there was over two thousand.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Miles in that car. One of the other things that
police were able to do is that they were able
to find.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Receipts, and they were able to show that the defendant
in the fact, and she readily admits us now that
she did take a trip. She took a trip, but
she was going to go to Utah. According to her,
she was going to go to Utah because she has
a love interest there, or somebody that could potentially be
a love interest, by the name of Ryan Burns, and

(51:12):
she was going to visit him.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Not only visit him, but she was also going there.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
To maybe do some marketing with PPL on this Thursday afternoon,
which would have been the.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Second fifth a budget.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
And so they're able to see that she goes from
southern California, stops at places like Starbucks there in the
evening sometime around nine o'clock in the evening and giving
her plenty of turning to be there the next day.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
So they're able to see that not only.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Does she have the opportunity, she actually is placed near
the area of California, which would have been a short
is a real to turn five to Masa.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
So when she said to.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
The police back on June tenth of two thousand and
eight that she hadn't been there, well the police knew
about that that was not true because they could trace
her movements.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Well, the other thing that they were able to find
that came out is.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That merchants were going to keep the news at this time.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, please be back in the
designated area at one thirty. Please remember the admunition. I'm
going to ask that you review the admunition. It is
in your black binder. You should have it in writing.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
We got a dog before lunch talking about the police
investigation into the defendent statement that she was not at
mister a Examer's home on June four of eight, and
specifically we were talking about the police obtaining documents that
showed that she rented a car and reading California on

(52:53):
June second, and that they were able to show that
she actually made her way down south in California, made
her way down to southern California, and at some point
made her way over to Utah. And ostensibly she indicated
that she was going to Utah to meet up with
a friend, somebody that she had a romantic interest in,

(53:17):
somebody by the name of Brian Burns. And what mister
Burns will tell you is that she was supposed to
arrive a day earlier, and somehow for this whole period
of time couldn't get a hold of her to call her.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
She would call him back. You know now that the
reason that was is because she was with mister Alexander.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
But she did happen to arrive in the Salt Lake City,
Utah area on June fifth, which was I'm sorry, yeah,
June fifth, which was that Thursday. And as she got there,
sometime around a little bit before eleven o'clock, mister Burns
indicated that.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
He had to go to a medium.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And that if she wanted to go with him, that
she could follow him in her car.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
The rental car that she driving.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
As they were driving in West Jordan, Utah, an officer
with the West Jordan Police department stopped her in that vehicle.
And the reason they stopped her in that car was
because there was a problem with her license plate. There
are two plates that are required in Utah, and in fact,
there are two plates that are provided and required in California.

(54:22):
So when the car was rented, there was a front
plate and there was also a backplate. Well the plate
the car that she was driving did not have a
front plate, so between the time that she rented it
and the time that she was stopped, somebody took that
plate off. Additionally, the reason that she was stopped is
that the plate in the back had been turned upside down,

(54:46):
and so the police officer stopped her or stopped the car.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And he will come at.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
His name's Michael Galliati, and he will tell you that
the person that was driving the car was to defend them.
And she provided some story about being at Starbucks. At
Starbucks and somehow some of the kids are trying to
play a trick and took her license plate off the
car and put one of the license plates inside the
car and then somehow turn the other license plate upside down. Well,

(55:14):
she continues on with mister Burns and then at some
point the meeting is over, they go back to his place,
and what seems to be something with her is that
the inevitable happens. They do begin to become engaged amorously,
They begin to kiss, they begin to get involved in
that sort of fashion. And mister Burns will tell you that, yes,

(55:37):
they did go further than that, and in fact.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
He will say that he had his hands between her legs.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And he will also say that the reason that they
didn't go all the way.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Or continue on to sexual intercourse is because.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
He's Mormon and he is teachings which I've been telling
you about do not allow for that sort of behavior,
if you will, And so it will that the defendant
was stopping him. It was that he decided not to
go any further than that.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
And then the police.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Also determined that the car was finally returned on the
seventh of June back to the budget rent a car
in Reading, California. Well, the police no knowing that there
was this trip that was planned.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
They have the photograph, they.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Now have the DNA, and they also have the fingerprints.
Arrested the defendant for the first degree murder of Travis Alexander,
and as part of that process, of the arrest, the
police conducted or spoke with a defendant, and of course,
prior to speaking with a defendant, they admonished her the
Mimoranda warnings and talked to her about what the Miranda

(56:43):
Warrens were, and she agreed to speak with them and
these her videotape. And this was on June fifteenth of
two thousand and eight, and they arrested her while she
was in this home on Pine Street, the home that
she lived there with her grandparents, the home where there
was this burglary on.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
May twenty eighth of two thousand and a. And when
they spoke with her on.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That June fifteenth, the defendant said, well, you know, you know,
I'll talk to you about it, but I don't other
than what I've already told you, I don't know too
much about it.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Well, why don't you tell us what you do now? Well,
I can.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Tell you that the last time that I was there
was back in April of two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
That's what she told me.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
And they said, well are you sure, I mean, we
have some photographs of you there. Oh, she said, well,
are you sure they weren't taken on a different date? Now,
We're sure they weren't taken on.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
A different day. Well I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
There wasn't me. Well what about this time lapse? What
about this gap where you sort of disappeared. You're supposed
to be in Utah with this or other boyfriend of yours,
and yet you're you can't be found. People are making calls,
and all calls going out, nothing going in.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
What about that time I got lost?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
What ended up happening is that I ended up getting lost,
and I got so lost I almost can't tell you
where I was, but I do the one thing she said,
I ended up on the forty forty. And the detective
said to her, how can that be possible? If you're
coming from California and you're going to Salt Lake City, Utah.
How is it possible? Since the road goes north and east.

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The fifteen goes northeast and takes you through Las Vegas
that way.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Why the only way that.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You can get on the forty is if you come
through Mason, then you come up that way. Couldn't have
been on the forty. There's no way that you could have. Oh, yes,
I was, she said, You know, I can get lost.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
With the best of them. I slept in my car
and my phone.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
The reason that no one was able to get a
hold of me was that it wasn't charged up.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
It has lost its charge.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
The police kept saying, but that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Why would you say that that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
And if you're going into Salt Lake City, how can
you say that you actually came through the forty and
then up.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Through Las Vegas that way.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
She kept to her story and said, no, I was
never there on June fourth, two thousand and eight, So.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
The police left it at died.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
The next day, she indicated a willingness to continue talking
to the police officers, and that was July sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
And she was again read her around.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
The warnings, and this time when she spoke to the
police officer, she said, you know, I gotta tell you something.
I really have to tell you something. Maybe what I
told you yesterday, well maybe that's not the truth. What
I really have to tell you today is what happened
and what ended up happening is And I'm just incredibly

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scared for my family.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I'm just totally scared.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
For my brother, my sister, my family, my grandparents because
as a result of this killing. Well, the people that
really did this killing, they're the ones. These are the
people that are out to get my parents. So although
I told you yesterday that I wasn't there, well I'm

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telling you now that I was there, and I can
tell you what happened. I arrived there sometime around three
or four o'clock in the morning of June fourty. When
I arrived there, Travis was on the computer and he
was watching some sort of YouTube thing about some ladies
with something on their head, and it was just a
silly video, and we sat and watched it for a
little bit. And after watching that for a short period

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of time, well, we went up to bed. Nothing happened
the next day in the afternoon. You're right, that is
me in those photographs. That's me, and yes we are
engaged intimacies, we're having sex. The other thing that's also
true is that, well, those photographs twenty that I talked

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to you about, I was the one that was the photographer.
I was the one I was taking those photographs. I
was the one that talking into standing and posing for me.
He really didn't want to pose for me. He thought
it was just not his cup of tea. But you know,
he sort of did it for me, and so I
began to take the photographs of him. As I'm taking

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these photographs of him, I hear, this is your noise,
and something hits me and I really can't I don't
know if I think I went unconscious. I'm not sure
I went unconscious, but I think I did. And then
I realized that Travis is hurt. I don't know how

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it happened, but I realized that Travis is hurt, and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
On all fours and he's saying help me, help me,
or words for that effect. He can't get up, and
I'm trying to help him. I'm trying to do the best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I can to get him out of there, to get him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Up so we can That's what I'm doing, she says.
I'm trying to do the best that I can. But
he can't seem to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Get up because there's a problem with his legs. He says,
he can't move well. While I'm trying to do this,
I realized that, and again I didn't tell you yesterday
yesterday because I was afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
But what is going on is that there's these two individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
First, she really doesn't know what their sexists are, but
comes around and says.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
It's a man and it's a woman. Not only is
it a man and a woman, but all I could
see are their eyes. I can tell you. I guess
she said that they're Caucasian, or maybe she can tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
But other than that, I don't have any way of
identifying who these attackers are. And according to them, it
appears that I surprised them that I shouldn't have been there,
because one of them said words to the effect that,
you know, that's that girl from California. I wasn't supposed

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to be there. That these people were designed to take
care of Travis for whatever reason they had, and I
don't know what that reason is. They were there to
do him harm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Well, what kind of weapons did they have? Well, she said,
I think they had one or two guns. I'm really
not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
All I know is that I was focused on Travis.
I had been hit myself. I didn't know what to do.
And so what happened then, Well, Travis kept saying to
go to the neighbors for help, but I didn't want
to leave him there, and at one point what I
did was that I was able to And it depends.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
On what point the story is picked up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
But I pushed the girl who was there, and I
was able to get the better hurt, and I was
about to run out, get out and go get some help,
except that I was then confronted by the guy, and
the girl kept saying, well, just do her, just dor
and the guy didn't want to do it. But I
had the gun straight at my face, this gun that

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was pointed at my face, Well, he pulled the trigger
and for whatever reason, providence perhaps gun didn't go off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But I was very worried still about Travis, and I
needed to get him out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
When the gun didn't go off, Well, this guy started
looking through.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
My purse and lo and beholded my purse.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Believe it or not, I happened to have my car
registration that shows my address because that's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
What I carry around, So they knew.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
They being this guy knew exactly where I lived. And
he said to me, well, if you tell what happened here,
the same thing's going to happen to your family.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
So she then told.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Him, detective, how could you expect me to say anything.
At some point, she also indicates that she is fighting
with the woman. She claims that she's barefoot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
A woman.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
May have hit her feet, but she was able to
hit the woman. Also, the detective asked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Well, what about a knife? Did a knife ever come up?
She said, I could think the woman was the one
that had the knife. And when you were going through
all these things, and she says, everything happened in the
bathroom when you were going through all these things. What
was Travis doing? What was going on with trash? Well,
he was alive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
It looks like he was peeling a lot of pain.
But there wasn't anything I could do because he couldn't
get up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I did the best that I could. I fought with
a girl. I had the gunpointed at me. I mean,
they already knew where I lived just by looking at it.
They knew my address, and I guess I committed to memory.
So I was worried about my family. So there was
nothing I could do. So what happened next, Well, I

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was able to pick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Up my purse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
The police did not find any articles of clothing there.
From her, I was able, she said, to pick up
my clothes, my purse, run out of the house, run.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Downstairs, and nobody chased me. And then I was able to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Get in the car and I was able to drive
away and make my getaway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Why didn't you call the police? If she was asked, well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Don't you know my phone wasn't charged up? That's why
I couldn't couldn't die.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
That's what the problem was. Never called the police from there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
All the way to Utah, which never was a call.
The only call came from Urray Hall on June ninth.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
That's the perversion.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
And after that version, the defendant seemed to want her
audience and she began to go on national television could
talk about it. And basically that was her story, that
there had been two other individuals that had done it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
And in fact, she.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Went on a show called Inside Edition, which will be
his remember.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
To forty seven? Didn't she talk to them about this?

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
I understand that everything, all of the evidence against me
right now is very compelling.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
What really happened in there?

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
And in that show, two people took Travis's life, two monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
You did not shoot Travis.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
No, I've never even shot a real gun.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You did not stab him twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
To overs n That's that's heinous.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I never let his throat from ear to ear.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
I can't imagine slitting anyone's throw.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
That was her story that in part. That's the summary
of the story that she told the detective. Well there's
a different story now. Now, it's not that she wasn't there. Now,

(01:08:10):
it's not that it's two people with whatever variation she
may have provided to these national shows. Now she admits
that it was her. She's the person who actually didn't this,
and she's the person that actually did even though she
says otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
She's the one that did be stabbing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
She's the one that slit his throat, and she's the
one that shot him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
She's the one that now is admitting that after telling
all these things, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Even though she says that she still has a view.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
As to the evidence. This is exhibit number two forty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
You know Jerry's going to connect me. Why not because
I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one. No, Jerry,
well connect me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I also ask that you mark her words, that her
words that military will convict her, even though she has
admitted that she's the person that did this, after giving
many more different stories of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
What happened, And as you mark her words, I ask.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
You, while you're doing that, in your final deliberations, that
you remember that while you're marking the guilty verdict for
her premeditated killing of Travis Alexander