E8: Dee Dee Blanchard Murder Trial Day 2.2 Aaron Exner, Michael Costello Testify about Text Messages

E8: Dee Dee Blanchard Murder Trial Day 2.2 Aaron Exner, Michael Costello Testify about Text Messages

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That's saying truth all you all getlung shotfully you'll be seen. You have
another view out of the state calledAaron excellent. Okay, accident, Come

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on, have a seat. Iswear you in after you get a seat.
Okay. I guess if you alwayssay that makes you said I've had
people fall off when we swear okaythey look about or some reason live on.
Now you thought it was sort ofthe just when you're about to give
the call stout coming for the court, Well, do the truth, the

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whole truth, and nothing but thetruth will be got I do. Thank
you, Yes, sir, thankyou. Please stake your name looking out.
Yeah, it doesn't work, butyou can use that. Yeah.
Aaron Exner and mister Exner, what'syour current occupation? I currently work in
sales and marketing at Dynamic DNA Laboratories, And is what do you do at

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Dynamic DNA Laboratories right now? Focusedon sales and marketing of our number of
variety of genetic tests and other thingsthat we do. How long have you
worked there since April of this yearand what did you do prior to working
at Dynamic DNA Laboratories. Prior towork at dynamic that I worked for the

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Missouri State high Control the crime laboratoryhere as Greyfield. How long did you
work for the Missouri State Highway Patrola little over five years? And what
were your using with the crime labhere? Yeah, my duties mainly consisted
of locating, identifying, and geneticallytyping biological material and then making subsequent comparisons

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to no reference standards. And whatwas your title? Uh, I was
a DNA criminalist. And in orderto work as a DNA criminalist did you
first, actually, let me backup first, what's your educational background?
Yeah? I got my undergraduate degreefrom Southwest Baptist University in Baldgmom, Misouri

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and biology, and then went onand got my master's in plant science from
the Zury State University. Then,in order to work as a criminalist,
did you have to go through additionaltraining from the Missouri Highway Control? Yes?
I did? Okay, can youdescribe that generally consistent of about a
year and a half of in housetraining of understanding the technology for my educational

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background, but then figuring out waysto apply it and running a number of
examples and in different samples kind ofprepared me for the work and how long
was that process? About a yearand a half, mister Exner, Just
in general, what what is DNA? Yeah, DNA stands for deoxy ribo

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muclaig has an a fancy word thatreally is just the blueprint of life.
It's what makes us unique and whatmakes us all human. And where do
we get our DNA? We gethalf of our DNA from our father and
half of our DNA from our mother. So, if you're working as a
criminalist at the crime lab and youreceive a piece of evidence, are there

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some preliminary steps you go through tosee if there's anything on there that may
be suitable for testing? Can youreachtect? The questions? Yeah, let's
take it. You get an itemof clothing. Is there a preliminary stage
that when you look at that itemof clothing that you go through to see
if there's maybe something on there youcan test. Yeah. Generally, what

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we'll have is kind of a summaryof whatever the incident is. And so
knowing what the summary is and knowingoftentimes what type of biological material we would
be looking for, would often dictatethe type of DNA analysis I would perform.
And then if you are able tolocate DNA. Are you able to
put that into some kind of formatthat you can see. Yes, Yes,

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what is that called? That wouldbe called a DNA profile. Now,
if you're able to develop a DNAprofile from a piece of evidence,
do you necessarily know whose DNA thatis not? Initially? No? So,
then is it common for you toreceive maybe a suspects DNA or a
victims DNA so that you can compare. Yes, it was common practice for

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us to have a what was calleda reference standard from all subjects associated with
the case whatever. In What wasthe most common form that you would get
those reference standards in? Yeah,the most common form would be what's called
a bubble swamp the UCCL, andthat actually just stands the medical term for
the inside of the cheek, Soa bubble swamp would probably be the most

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common. Then you're able to developa DNA profile from a piece of evidence,
do you compare that profile to thoseof your reference standards from a suspect
and or a victim. Yes.Now, if a profile from a piece
of evidence is consistent with somebody's knownprofile, how do you word that?

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Generally, we would word it asthat it would be consistent with and why
do you use that phrase instead ofit's a match? Yet a big part
of it has to do with thefact that we don't look at the entire
strand of DNA. We only lookat you, in this case, sixteen
locations along the DNA, So theDNA being billions of nucleotides long, we

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would only look for sixteen different locationswithin that, and so without being able
to test the whole strain of DNA, that's really all we could say.
But then, are you able touse statistics to put a probability that those
pro files actually are from the sameperson? Yes? And how does that
so? Generally, there have beenstudies that have been done that have shown

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what are called relative frequencies. Sothey've looked at these locations over a large
number of people, and given certainethnic backgrounds, they can see how often
these what were called alleles at theselocations, how often they would come up
in certain population groups. And sowe would apply the essentially the statistical weight

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to that and then do those comparisonsand create a result that we would report.
Drawing your attention now to back intwenty fifteen, did you take part
in a case that involved the deathof someone named Claudine Blanchard with my notes,
Yes, yes I did. Andwhat was your role in the investigation

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In this particular investigation, I wasthe vi an an analyst of scientific and
various items, and that you wentahead and tested. Yes, there was.
And in about early twenty sixteen,did you complete some reports that had
the results of your testing? Yes? I did. Now you mentioned reference

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standards, being that you know itcomes from a certain person. Did you
have those in this case? Yes? I did. Which ones did you
have? I had the buccal swabsfrom the three subjects associated. And I'll
just show you quickly here this hasalready been admitted as stage exhibit forty three.

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Is that the buccal swab? Yes, this tape right here that you
used that. Yes, I cantell both by the tape at the bottom
with my initials and dates across that, as well as our crime lab barcode
that we apply to every piece evidencethat comes to the lab. I also
have my initial and date on thatas well. All right, now I'll
show you what's already been admitted isstaates Exhibit one seventy eight. Is this

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the reference standard of mister Beau Dejon, Yes, of a good kick and
again the same tapes and marketing asyou described earlier. Yes. And then
lastly the States eacibit one seventy nine. Is that Yes, it's a goos
k and you know described some ofthe were some of the items that you

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tested? Did those come from thebathroom at twenty one oh three West Volunteer
Way, That was my understanding.Yes. Specifically, did you test some
paper towels? Yes? I did. Correct if you had looked at they're
in States the twenty four and nowstateshibit twenty five. We see a roll

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of paper towels. Uh. Whenyou received it, it would have been
an evidence bad Is that right?Yes, that's correct. But then by
the time you actually tested it,would you have taken it out and tested
the red substance there at the top? Yes? I would. And what
were the results of your testing ofthe paper tip? So after testing with

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the chemical that we call leuco malacategreejust looking as a chemical that we use
to color change tests that reacts toblood, and after testing that, I
say that screen positive for the presenceof blood. And then did you make
comparison to the known profiles that youhad yes, I did. And were

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there any consistencies? Yes, therewas, and what was that result?
The profile that I developed from thescreen positive blood stain is consistent with that
of Nicholas Godojohn and has an approximatefrequency of one and eighty nine point ninety
three quadrillion in the Caucasian population andone in twenty point four six quintillion in

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the Black population. Gypsy Blanchard andClaudinium Blanchard are eliminated as the source of
the profile. And that was abig number that you mentioned. Is that
more than the population of people onEarth? Yes? This now you could
look up there at the State's Exhibittwenty eight. You also did some testing

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on that swab from the sink.Can you describe what your results were from
that? From item fourteen dot one? Fourteen dot one being the crime laboratory
a number for this, I saythat a DNA profile was developed and as
characteristic of being a mixture of threeindividuals, CLAUDEA. Blanchert, Gypsy Blanchard,

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and Nicholas Gojon cannot be eliminated ascontributors to the mixture. So when
you receive a mixture, do youstill do the same thing where you assign
a number percent probability that it isa mixture of those three individuals. It's
a similar props again using the statisticsthat we have from studies have been done.

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But in this case we utilize whatit's called a likelihood ratio and we
essentially put forth a hypothesis and welook at likelihoods of those particular alleles at
those locations to determine whether or notwe assigned some weight to it. And
what was that statistic or hypothesis aboutthis mixture from this swab. So,

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from this swab, the observed mixtureprofile is four hundred and seventy five to
zero point seven quintillion times in theCaucasian population and eight point zero eighty four
septillion times in the Black population.More likely to occur under the scenario that
it originated from a mixture of DNAfrom Claudenia blanchert, Gypsy Blanchard, and

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Nicholas got john as opposed to thescenario that the mixture originated from a mixture
of DNA from three unknown, unrelatedto individuals. Then, lastly, did
you also do some testing on anine Yes, I did. I need
to show you what's already been admittedas States Exhibit one close. But is

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that the nine fishing tested? Yesit is. And then there seemed to
be several squabs. Those were theswabs that I took from various parts of
the night, may appear in thesame package, then yes they did.
What was your general approach to testingthe ninth? So one part of our

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in house training program that we dealwith the how of patrol is dealing with
the number of samples from a potentiallynumber of different scenarios. And so of
my time with the patrol, havingworked in a different variety of cases,
including those with knives, I basicallyswap different parts of the knife because basically
there would be a kind of astory to tell from each part of the

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knife. So if you look overyour shoulder there at State's Exhibit one point
thirty eight, I know with theblue glove aside, it is that photograph
the knife that we just looked atand the exhibit, Yes it appears with
me. And so what was didyou test the blade of this knife?

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Yes? I did, And whatif any results came from testing the blade?
The blade did screen positive for thepresence of blood, and that a
being a profile is developed from thatand that the profiles consisted of being a
mixture of two individuals. The majorcomponent the mixture is consistent with the profile

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developed from clouding of Blanchard and hasan approximate frequency of one and two point
one ninety six quadrillion in the Caucasianpopulation and one in four hundred and thirty
seven zero point eight quadrillion in theblack poppy. And now, did you
also test the handle of the nine? Yes? I did? Did you

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just test one place or more thanone? In this case? I swabbed
more than one? And specifically,what areas of the handle did you test?
In this instance? I swabbed thered part of the handle there,
and then I also swabbed where thered part of the handle met a the

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black part of the handle. Takingfirst the red part in the handle,
What was the result of you're testingon that part? That also screen positive
for the presence of blood DNA profilesdeveloped and was consistent of being a mixture
of two individuals Nicholas go to Johnand Claude and A Blanchard cannot be eliminated

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as contributors to the mixture. Heobserved. Mixture profile is one point seven
one to nine billion times in theCaucasian population and fifty six point one five
billion times in the Black population.More likely to occur under the scenario that
originated from a mixture of DNA fromClaudemia Blanchard and Nicholas Gota John, as

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opposed to the scenario that the mixtureoriginated from a mixture of DNA from Claudymia
blanchert in an unknown unrelated individual.And then how about the where you swabbed,
where the black part of the handlemeets the red part of the handle.
Over from that one the DNA profileis developed, it is characteristic of
being a mixture of three individuals.Claudenia blancherd Gypsy Blanchard, and Nicholas Gotojohn

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cannot be eliminated as contributors to themixture. The observed metro profile is fifty
nine point eighty eight quadrillion times inthe Caucasian population and six point one two
quintillion times in the Black population,more likely to occur under the scenario that
it originated from a mixture of DNAfrom Claudenia Blanchard. It's he Blanchard and
Nicholas go to John as opposed tothis an area that the mixture originated or

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a mixture of DNA from three unknownunrelated Have any other questions un three questions?
Yeah, okay, they have thiswitness be excused, yes, sir,
excuse yes, thank you, thankyou, sir, appreciate. Yeah,

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we do. I think that,uh, based on our part conversations
where you make a record post.Oh, why don't we just go into
visual do that? Okay? Now, folks, our Jacks witness is gonna
take a little while, and sowe're gonna break in the middle of the

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testimony'll direct We normally don't do that, but that way you aren't sitting too.
Did you need your break though?Before we get to that stopping point,
just raise your head and we'll stopat Okay. I don't wanna make
anybody uncomfortable. Okay, So thispro Patterson state calls Michael Costello, prof.

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Come well up, sir, outof sea. I see the grams
a ride in. Do you sawme swear that just what you're about to
give in the college out any quotacordthe truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth. Solf yougot any thank you? Ess say the

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name for the record place, MichaelCostello. I think John read a lot
of chi rejections. Alright, I'lluh ooh. The direction of the subject
for what we talked about is aboutcan you still your last name in the
quarter record? Please? C?S. T. E. L.
L. O. Harry employed.I named computer forensic analysts with the Springfield

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from this apartment. Could you describefor the jury what a computer forensics analyst
is. My job is to processdigital evidence. So digital evidence is anything
that can store data related to acriminal case. But pretty much everything I
work on is smartphones, computers,flash drives, and memory cards. It's

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my job to go out to scenesand collect that evidence, pull the information
from that, analyze it, andthen create reports for investigators. And you
said you work for the spring Tothe Police Department PREPP. Correct. Do
you sometimes assist other agencies like theDream County Share Office. Yes. Do

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you have some certifications that enable youto do the work that you do?
Yes? I have three. Whatare they? I'm a Certified Forensic Computer
Examiner, which is put on bythe International Association of Computer Investigator Specialists.
That certification requires a multi month processwhere you go through testing and they give

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you examples of data, if theprocess, and answer questions about it.
I am also an in Case certifiedexaminer in cases, a software tool that
we use sometimes in forensics. Itrequired going to several training classes and also
a testing process after that. Iam also a Celebrate Certified Mobile Examiner.

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Celebrate is a phone forensic tool.They have several levels of certification and has
the highest one of the payment.Do you have some additional training in that
area as well in addition to thecertifications. Yeah, I have over seven
hundred hours in computer forensics training andcovering everything from getting data from devices,

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how data is stored on devices,and how operating systems save those, and
the artifacts that are left behind whenpeople do certain things. Since you mentioned
when you say artifact left behind,he is generally tell less what we by
that part of fact would be somethinglike web history or chat messages, something

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specific to a certain program. Doyou also teach in the area of computer
princess. Yes. That first certificationthat I mentioned, the certified rings a
computer examiner. The first half ofthat process you have a coach that grades
your work and answers all of yourquestions. So I've been doing that for
other people that are going through thatprocess, being their coach for several years.

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I also teach classes to detectives oninvestigating. Did you have an occasion
in twenty fifteen to assist the GreenCounty Sheriff's Office in the investigation of the
death of Clauding Lancher yet, Andin the course of that work, did
you examine a Hewlett Packard desktop computertower. Yeah, and you've looked at

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that recently, corrected a physical ademYes in our office. I just well
no, States Exident eighty six.Do you recognize that? Yes? That?
And then did you also examine theCulett Packard pavilion laptop DV six thousand

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has a white top lid. Yes, And when you examined that, was
it contained in a bag? Italso like a flat computer laptop bag?
Yeah, and you've seen that recentlyas well. Yeah, yeah, exactly
some pain in States Exhibit eighty nine. Uh, I'm gonna say, I

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say, and you examine some phonesas well, A lot of potent States
Exhibent seventy nine has been introduced toas a Kyocera flip phone. Is that
the phone you examiner and States sigibitninety four is an LG touchscreen phone.

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Is that the Tony So, withregard to the two computers states Exhibit eighty
six eighty nine, did you performa forensic examination on those two machines?
Yes? Can you describe what youdid? And you should? I take
pictures of pictures of the device.I then removed the hard drive out of
it. In the case of thedesktop that actually had two hard drives.

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I then create what's called a forensicimage of that hard drive, which essentially
just means it's an exact copy ofthe data that it's on the hard drive,
but there's some checks in there tomake sure that it is an exact
copy. I then do all ofmy analysis using that copy. I use

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several different software tools to do that. One of those is called x ys
Forensic that just allows you to browseand search and a bunch of other things.
Another program I use is called Internetas anance Finder or IF for short,
and it looks more for specific artifactsand actually its specialty is web browser

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history and chat messages. The otherthing I do is I take that and
I essentially boot the copy of thosecomputers on my computer, so I can
kind of see how it looked tothe user. Using something called for once
I do all that, I bookmarked the things that I think will be

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important that I provide that to.And so when I grew up my computer,
I know Dan on the right handcorner. It tells me the day
and time. Yeah. Did youexamine these two computers to see if the
day and time stamps were accurate onthem? Yes? What I do is
I go into the bios while thehard drive is disconnected, which is that

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then initially see when it starts up. That kind of controls it at the
basic level, and I look atthe day and time there. The desktop
computer was correct and the laptop computerwas only two minutes off. So did
you do something to examine the computerto see if you could tell just based
on the contents of the computer wasit who was it that used the computer?
Yes? How do you do that? I go through and look and

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see what stuff is there that indicateswho used it. So in this case,
you can look at things like hehad some chat applications installed and the
user name that he used was ingo to John eighty nine. There were
some documents that were on them thatindicated they were written by mister Godojohn.

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You can look at the saved loginsfor websites in his web browser and those
all indicated in go to John eightynine as well. And there's also pictures
that were taken and videos that weretaken with the webcam on them, and
they showed him as well. Asyou looked at these two computers, was

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there anything about the way they wereset up, that the accounts were set
up on them that was more sophisticatedor different than what a typical user would
do In your experience, there wassome things that were a little different.
He had several cleaning programs installed,but the big thing was his encryption set
up. First. To talk ata little bit about the cleaning programs,

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what do you mean by a cleaningprogram. There are programs that are intended
to try and make your computer runfaster, so in doing so, it
normally removes a lot of things.With that, it also erases a lot
of the history of what the userhas done on the computer, such that

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if it's been cleaned by the cleaner, you wouldn't be able to recover it.
If it's done it properly, correctand carry if it cleans it correctly,
you know, all of that evidencewould be gone. One of the
programs he had installed. He hadat least two. One of them was
actually scheduled to run times a week, so it would have been running in

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spite of those programs. Were youable to find some artifacts and data on
the computer's relevant to this case?Yes, I found that that program that
was scheduled to run did not eraseeverything. It was not erasing stuff correctly
if you wanted to leave nothing behind. And so is that a user error
or a problem with the program itself. It's a problem with the program itself.

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If he was to pull up hisweb browser and look at his web
history, there wouldn't be any there, but it was still leaving data behind
and the databases that the history isstored in. So as the user of
that computer, I would think itwas working. Probably correct. You mentioned
something about encryption. Can you tellus what you meant by that? Yeah?

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So the desktop computer had two harddrives. The first I just used
for storage. But that hard drivewas encrypted with a encryption that they'd called
It's built into versions of Windows,and it allows you to encrypt a partition.
So a partition is a subdivision ofa hard drive. The in this

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case, this drive only had onepartition on it that filled the entire drive.
So simply the entire drive was encrypted. So if you talked to your
if I think of my hard driveas like a pie shade for a circle,
a partition would be like a sliceof it would be that here was
the whole drop, correct, Andyou were starting to explain for it.

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So inside of that once, ifI was able to decrypt that, there
were folders on that drive that hadthen been encrypted with another method. So
this other method allows you to doindividual files and folders. So BitLocker does
the entire partition, and this methodcalled Encrypting Filesystem or EFS, another method

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built into Windows allows you to dospecific files and folders. And there were
a couple folders and their contents thathad been encrypted with that method also,
and so in a second method,any of those files are folders delayed to
anyone involved in this case. Yes, there was a folder titled myiar Gypsy

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that had numerous videos from her,and that was the folder one. Are
you commoted with Google Chrome? Yes, he thought us with that prequel.
It is a web browser. Anddid the defendant use Google Chrome? Yes?
Was there something about how Google Chromewas set up on these two computers
that was subneted. Yeah, hehad. He had Google Chrome on both

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computers and he was signed into hisGoogle account on both of them. So
when you do that, it allowsdata to sync back and forth between them.
So the things you book mark willshow up on both. The passwords,
as you say, show off onboth, and some of your web
history will also be transferred from oneto the other. As you examined these

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computers and later the phones, didyou see evidence of communication between the defendant
nicholasco John or Gypsy Planter? Yes? Can you briefly describe? But before
I get to that, did youknow as you were looking at those communications
and things on the computer, whatare there's some things that are perhaps important

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to understand that will help us understandthe communications. Yes, what do you
mean by that? There were twothings. One is they would refer to
different aspects of their personalities as differentnames, So go to John would be
Victor or my evil side, andGypsy had names like Candy Bella, Demona

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Ruby, and there may have beenof others. Secondly, they had what
I've come to refer to as theirsignature salutation. So most of the time
when they would stop talking to eachother, you know, closing out of
conversation. They would say something theeffect of I love, worship and adore

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you. I may have that orderon and they would refer to each other
as their twin flames. Sold mostall of their communications when they had a
wonderful describe the types of communications justin general that you found. There was
messages from Skype between the two ofthem, There were stories, sexual stories

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that were saved on there that werelikely exchanged, and there were numerous videos
that they had recorded where they weretalking to each other. You mentioned Skype.
What is skep? Skype is acommunication program, so it can be
used to do chat messages, chatcommunication. It can be used to do

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audio calls, it can be usedto do video calls, and it can
be used to do screen sharing andyou can show someone else in your computer
screen. So if I were usingSkype, might I text or chat with
someone to say, hey, let'sget online and talk to each other.
You could, and then I mighthave a live secualories talking face with things

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correct and the chat portion might berecorded, whereas typically the face to face
wouldn't be fair to say correct,there would be a record of the call
taking place and normally how long itlasted. But what it said during that
calls? Now? And did youlocate a Skype chat message which discussed with
a defendent a discussing plans involving Gypsy'slevee? Yeah, a few a disc

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from market the states are good?At one eight? Have you recognize that
disk? Yes? Is that thedisc on which we prepared the exhibit of
that Skype chat message? Yes?And how do you know it's that?
My initials and data center on there. So when we look at what's on
the disk, is that going toappear just like I would have appeared on

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the screen now for the user orsomething different? You know it's going to
be the software program I use Aaronat Ivan's Finder essentially turns it into a
web page and turns it into agrid. And so this is going to
be just a screenshot of that backgrid of information, almost like a spreadsheet.

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Yes, different columns and so forexample it might show when a live
a live session started and ended,Yes, and then also show the type
chat and the content of that chat. Have moved admit since he did.
At one fifty eight, the rejectionis your your group, we're gonna blow

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off with two of the boxes.But just in general, this is that
sort of table you were telling usabout. Yeah, and this is from
a chat that occur it's small Fearbut on March twenty ninth for twenty fifteen,
and it showed the author as NicholasGouter John correct in their recipient as

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Elido. Right. So, havingblown that up, would you go ahead
and read the chat message to thefrom Nicholas Skota John Gypsy went on a
mother's type of group on Facebook andtalked about our story on what we planned
on doing. You see, meand her are planning on having a baby

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next year as a way to daytogether, so her mom has no choice
but to let us be together.But you see, I saw comments on
her post to that group that wasbad mouthing me, and she just took
it like wow, okay, I'ma weight. And it had to do
with finding someone better than we're ableto examine the defendant's browser history or web

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history on these two computers. Yes, and can you just in general talk
about what we mean by that browserhistory or web history. It would be
the websites that were visited in Googlecrime and so as part of that,
just sort of looking at the historylike we're be familiar with in our computer
or where we've been, it wouldbe that there's some complications with it in

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this case, why don't you talkabout that? Okay? So that where
the cleaning program that I mentioned earlierthat was supposed to be wiping all of
the web history, it was onlywiping a portion of it. So when
Chrome is pulling this information up,it pulls it for multiple different sources,

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and it was essentially only erasing onesource. So we have web history,
but it is not a complete pictureof all of the web history. And
then there's sometimes you don't know exactlywhich computer it was visited on because of
the sync taking place between the two. But in addition to that, there

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is something called fave icons, whichis short for favorite icons. So these
are the icons that show up nextto the title of the web page in
the top menu bar or a tab. When you're looking at your history,
it's the the icons show up nextto it, or bookmarks. They're normally

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for most places, like the iconfor a company or something. If you're
Disney a company website, so likefor example, if I went to a
Walmart, dot com. It's wherea yellow flower thing, so you won't
toe the icon, yeah, orfrom with the Amazon dot com. It
might be that a I Ken figureway it looks like exactly, but they're
icon for their business. Correct.So what chrome does is it saves those

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icons and then it saves the websitesthat were visited that were associated with the
With that, it saves the lasttime that the icon was updated, So
you have a Dayton time associated withthe icon, but you don't have a
Dayton time associated with the specific sitesthat were visited. So when you have

(36:42):
these dates and times, you knowthat they were visiting, Like if you
have one for Walmart, you knowthat they were on some form of Walmart
site at that time, but youdon't know specifically which part of Walmart they
were on. When you were lookingat the browsing history and the fade icons,

(37:05):
were you able to locate information aboutthe defendant coming to Spring from Missouri.
Yes, we're able to locate informationwhere he'd browsed the sites looking at
weapons or other articles that might beused in America. And then we put
those things that you found together ona disk. Yes. Information, Yes,

(37:30):
and how do you recognize that asbeing that disk. It has my
initial I've moved to ned statis ofa one point fifty nine. I should
the vide the group A right,So on the tile slides that put a
desktop computer and that Z number wouldbe the evidence bar for that would be
correct. Correct. The first thingwe're gonna look at is some of those

(37:52):
fade favorite icons from the desktop.Yes and so and so the ball that
we've blown up there, that's justa blow up of what's underneath right on
the chart, correct, and soon March sixteenth of twenty fifteen, a
visit to Springfield Lily School. Correct. So that won't necessarily be the specific

(38:16):
time that that page was visited,but that would be a time lily'sforal dot
net. And then what's the nextsecond one that came up? Flowerama of
Springfield dot com and they March sixteenthand cops plus dot com side that is
March fourth. Then on this nextpage we're still on the Chrome day icon.

(38:44):
That is a something that Time WarnerCable does whenever you try to visit
a site that is down or doesn'texist. So Bondage Tape dot com was
the site that was attempted to bevisited, but it was hither down or
did not exist at that time andat March tenth of twenty fifteen or May

(39:08):
symtoys dot com with bon secm Lovetoneydot com blog twenty fourteen, September thirty
Bone Talente dot com Adult Sex Toys, Kinky Bondage sp Sex Mischief Bondage table.
Now we're moving to part of thereport that dealt with web history from

(39:30):
the desktop computer. Grant correct.So here is Walmart dot com March nineteenth,
twenty fifteen at three twenty eight pmwith this one is unknown for sure
which computer this visit would have happenedon, and I think you said March
sith book that you and you maynot. From there, we're gonna switch

(39:53):
back to the fab iticons on thedesktop computer and if you find things associated
with that, visit the Walmart dotcom or nine think possibly on. So
that is a Walmart dot com searchfor bondage tape, a Walmart dot com

(40:13):
search for Taser, a Walmart dotcom search for knive. This one is
the search for knives on Walmart dotcom. But when you see at the
end category tactical knives. When yousearch on Walmart for knives. It gives
you other options to narrow down yoursearch. On the side, Tactical Kniz

(40:35):
is one of those categories. Socategory tactical knives shows a drill down and
that is a specific entry for aspecific nine another night and at a third
I'm gonna switch to the laptop computeragain. That bar that Ze number is
the Barco number for that computer.Correct, you're looking at the favorite item

(40:58):
as an Amazon pape for double Opumsteal Police Antony, May twenty fifteen.
But again that just shows that Amazonwas visited at that time. There's no
guarantee. It's that's specific website andeBay dot com that is a search for
Taser and the rest of these underneaththe also ebase searches for tasers, just

(41:22):
with the small part of the searchshow taser, search for TASERA, the
search for Taser gun. That's aspecific listening for a guard dog sixty five
million bolt a stun gun, anda search for tape. Now back to
the desktop web history. That isa visit on May thirty first, twenty

(41:44):
fifteen to greyhound dot com specific specificallya page given with May thirty first,
twenty fifteen. That's the that's thesame, then a visit for a page
on baggage information and then a PDFon on their prohibited item. That is
a visit on June third, twentyfifteen to filming coops dot com slash tases

(42:09):
can without the Girl Today June third, twenty fifteen, correct. Another visit
to greyhound dot com, but thatspecific one everyone knows exactly which Debis album
was on on June seventh, twofifteen correct. And then on June eighth,
twenty fifteen, at seven forty sixam, a visit to taxifarefinder dot

(42:32):
com and then just a short whilelater a specific search for what was his
address to the bus station in thewalk they're going to the laptop of this
story Taxi fare Finder June eighth oftwenty fifteen at seven forty six am.

(42:55):
And this is an example of onethat was probably transferred during the scene.
Is that's the exact same one onthe other that there is more detail all
the other that is June ninth,twenty fifteen at one point pm, and
that is the web page three daysin in Springfield and I twenty four.

(43:15):
All of that there is consistent withlogging into the hotel Wi Fi of the
days in in springfil and I twentyfour So that was June ninth, twenty
fifteen, at five point two pmif I'm understanding correctly, So like when
I go to the hotel and Icheck in and I want to get on
the Wi Fi turn on my computer, and when I do that, as
the first thing I have to dobefore I can go to Google or Amazon

(43:37):
or whatever is, I have tolog in to the hotel's Wi Fi system.
Yeah, most places require me todo that. That is a taxi
fare finder June tenth, twenty fifteen, at one on one am for going

(43:57):
from Days in the Days into twentyone O three West volunteer with and at
one fourteen am a Google Maps lookup. You know that the same address
the victims address. And so ifI'm not familiar with Google Maps, it
would allow me to go and lookat either the map or even the satellite
view of that location. Uh itcould. Yeah, And that's a one

(44:21):
time again one fourteen am on Junetenth, twenty fifteen. Then at that
Google Maps, was there a breakin activity? Uh? Yes? And
then back to the day's end yetset ten seventeen pm that same day,
would you So I wanna talk aboutExhibit ninety four that the LG the flat

(44:50):
screen cat upon it. Did youxamine that yes? Were you abli did
from its content? Did you identifyits user? Yes? How into it
was Gypsy's phone? The Google account, It was an Android phone. The
Google account link was in her name. There were email accounts added to it

(45:12):
that were in her name. Therewere outgoing text messages that never went through
that said hey, it's Gypsy.And then there were some selfies that were
found on the microstue that was inthe phone. Were you able to tell
this phone head cell service? Idon't believe that. Why there were no

(45:32):
calls and there were no outgoing textmessages that worked, and the only incoming
messages were Amber alerts and whether alertswhich you received whether you have cell service
or not. Could that phone stillthen be used to communicate via semester text

(45:54):
message or someone? But it couldthrough a couple of different ways. Did
you find evidence that this doone hadbeen used in that way? It loves
this ways tell us about that itcan still be put on Wi Fi and
on Wi Fi, can use anyapp that would allow you to do that.

(46:15):
In this case, she had theAPPU messenger installed, and there were
messages sent to cell phone. Didyou also examine we thought party We've already
admitted, says Lewis Heavy nine.The Kaya Sierra flip phone, when you
looked at it, were you ableto tell who the user of that phone
was? Yes? How there weremessages addressing the use It was mister good

(46:44):
John's phone. There were messages addressingthe user as Nick. There was a
contact list entry for mom, andI was told by investigators at that number
was his mom's number. And therewas a selfie taking lift the phone as
you looked at Saints exhibit ninety four, the LG phone as a stats Exhibit

(47:05):
seventy nine at Kasera flip phone,it was the defendance. Could you tell
all of those two devices they communiccamps? They did? How do you know
that? Uh? A conversation onthe LG phone, The messages matched exactly
with messages that were on the Kiyoseraphone. The Kyo seraphone had more messages,

(47:30):
but the messages that were still onthe LG phone matched exactly. And
what messaging service uh was Gypsey Planterusing on her phone? She was using
y AaB Messenger on hers and sowhen I use yeah Abu messenger, when
we look at these texts later,does it say is this from Gypsy or

(47:51):
how does that appear? It justappears as a number. So the first
time you received a if you're theperson on the texting end, the first
time you receive a message from someonethrough yab a messenger, it comes from
the number nine two four six six' five and then zero one. If

(48:14):
a second person was to contact you, it comes through is nine two four
six sixty five zero two. Soin this case, he had two conversations
ninety two four six six five zerosix and zero seven. The zero seven
conversation matched up with the the conversationfrom Gypsy's phone, and it actually switches

(48:39):
back and forth. You can tellfrom the conversation that O six is Gypsy
also, I mean it switches backand forth as their conversation goes on over
a couple of weeks. And sowith yeah new Messenger, if I either
do that from a mobile device likea phone, or also from a laptop
or some other kind of computing device, correct, you could do that from
anywhere access do you have a messenger, whether it be a phone app,

(49:01):
a computer app or even their websiteand the messages you found, did those
go back to May twenty seventh?Yes? And for the disc we put
together visit in then on June tenth, two thousan fifteen. Yes. And
did we put together a disc thatcontains those text messages you found between the

(49:25):
dependent and Gypsy Blantern? Is thatwhat is on this disc labeled the States
exhibit on the sixty Yes? Anddo you recognize that desk? Yes?
It had my inssions of ys andyou've reviewed it. Yes? And does
it fairly and accurately capture that actof conversations between the defendit and Gypsy planters?
Yes? And to because it hasthat too. And from that sixty

(49:50):
four number, did we add abox a pink box with the label gypsy
for the one's from her phone?Yes, in a blue box for the
one with with the defendant for onesfrom the defendant? Yea. I moved
to ad mids States Exhibit one sixty. I'll show that it admitted over and

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we didn't sort of uh slide withthe dates when we transitioned from one day
to when another was that current?Yes? And then to to aid the
jury would you please to free thetext too, Yes, as you see
from whether you're sitting or would itbe easier I think so for us to

(50:36):
put the chair over there. II think I did. Uh. Beginning
Wednesday, May twenty seventh of twentyfifteen, Gypsy, what was it for
him? And that's just where thefirst text you could find start with?
Correct? Correct, Defendant? Thatwas my evil side? Who did that?
You know? My good side wouldnever call you back home? Maybe

(50:57):
a bitch when you're being one,but that is all Well, it's all
true, Hunt, And it wasabout voices in my head, but instead
of getting rid of them, theybecame part of me. Baby. How
it works is based on my thoughtsand feelings, Dear, depends on what
part of me shows. Honey Gypsy, I understand Hunt, but that don't

(51:21):
mean I don't understand you. Ido, Defendant. Well, maybe after
I explained that you understand Swede theotherwise no one else understands honey Gypsy,
Well, I do you understood mein my different ways? Well, we're

(51:43):
supposed to understand each other if wejust know how to express each other,
dear, part emoji, if welit it before we go further, because
the court reporter is recording everything thathe's saying is profession. He's reading robe
of Parbader from one to sixty.Is that correct? Yes, sir?

(52:05):
Do you want the reporter exactuate seasreason distreparent? I'm just trying to think.
There's eight hundred of these. Thinkit needs to be you are.
It's done regularly, okay, Gypsy. Sometimes I'm too expressive lol or not
out loud. Defendant, Not really, because expression involves details, and you

(52:30):
know I'm better at that time,Gypsy. Yes you are, but I
too want everything you do too,Defendant. What do you mean, Gypsy,
everything you said you want? Iwant to to be together. Defendant,

(52:50):
Honey, this is where we're differentthough. I don't just want everything
with you, but I need everythingwith you for me to feel complete.
Sweetheart heart, Emogi, Gypsy,I need you to promise me the good
part of you will never do etor by the way, I'm on FB
two fees at be a problem,Defendant, really dear, because at times

(53:15):
I wonder if you mean, baby, it could never do, Gypsy.
I do need you, and itkills me to make you have to be
on these ups and downs. Defendant, honey, you would not mind using
a sweet name every once in awhile. It helps me remember I'm worship
Gypsy. Sure, sweet Defemini.That's better, dear heart Emoji Gypsy.

(53:40):
It's not that I don't worship you. I do, baby, I do,
and I look forward to being withyou. I'm just dealing with everything
changing time, Defendant, about you, or exactly what changes, Dear Gypsy,
the move, the change that's coming, Darling, I'm scared, Defendant,

(54:05):
scared of what my love Gypsy ofevery I'm not good with change.
They defend it everything, Sweetheart.We both have that in common when it
has to do with moving, DearGypsy, I'm gonna be okay. I
just needed to calm down and takea breath that, Darling. My feelings
for you will never change, Partonogy. I'm yours and you do make me

(54:30):
happy. Defendant. I hope theynever change because you scare me at times,
Dear Parginoigy, I hope so,honey, because I put my mind,
heart and soul into being with youand making you happy. Sweet Heartoigy
Gypsy, my feelings won't change,and though I have freak doubts, I

(54:52):
always come back to you, mylove. I'm so sorry. I'm scared.
I'll give you lots of love inthe hotel. Baby Defendant, well,
that's reassuring, Gear. I neededthat heart emoji after doing what my
evil side said, Hunt Gypsy.I reassured you on FB two Hunt heart

(55:15):
Emogi, and so sometimes as itappears that they're communicating on more than one
format of time, Facebook as wellas text me yep, yes, baby
defendant. Okay, baby heart emoji, Gypsy, you said, don't let
anything in our way. I woremyself out with being emotional defendant. That's

(55:37):
true, Dear. I'm guessing youhave a correlation to that. When I
said it, dear part of adefendant, It's true, Dear, I'm
guessing you have a correlation to that. When I said it, dear heart
Emogi said possibly just at a doublepicture that one of your photograph and as
I made Gypsy, sorry, haunt, I took a defendant I thought you

(55:58):
did, Dear Heart emotion Gypsy.I hope you feel better now as I
do, Defendant. I just neededto be reassured, Hunt part Emogen Gypsy.
Okay, Darling, Well, Ilove, adore, and worship you
my everything and I'm not giving out. It's that an example that signature salutations

(56:19):
for XO XO XO xo x whichis slaying four hugs and kisses. Defendant,
that's music to my ears to meetingheart Emogen Gypsy, they smile,
Defendant, Dear will there be lessof these freakouts in person, Gypsy?
Yes, Darling, when we're together, I will be a lot more relaxed,

(56:44):
mostly because we can use hugs,kisses and body language to prevent it.
Defendant. True, and sex willrelieve us of the stress, Dear
Gypsy, Lol, lap out loud, that too, hunt Defendant. Yes,
dear heart Emogen Gypsy. A lotof our problems are we don't have

(57:06):
a physical relationship time, so it'shard time. Defendant. True, I
suppose most of our problems are physicalrelated, Dear Gypsy, and I want
you to know being with me won'tbe held. They will be much better,
sweet Defendant, win exactly, Dear, since you've gotten curious, Gypsy,

(57:27):
Well, I'm going to start now, but I'll be all the way
better when we see each other.Hi, Defendant. All right, Dear
heart Emogen Gypsy. Do I makeyou happy? Defendant? When you don't
have your freakouts, Yes, dearGypsy, maybe you might like me better
in pers thtw or. By theway, I'm afraid of bugs, just

(57:50):
so you know, heine, Defendant, bugs. There is no reason for
that, and you know I'll worshipyou either way, whether in person or
from our emergy Gypsy. I'm justletting you know my phobia is bugged and
spiders. I always feel like crapafter I freak out because we're caught in
the middle. I can't stay evenan hour away from me, you,

(58:17):
Defendant, and spiders. That's alsosomething harmless to you most of the time
hunting. It's meant to be thatway, though, Dear Gypsy. It's
just my fear. So you takeyour little creepy bubby friends and escort then
out the house. Defendant exactly,dear, and don't worry about bugs.

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They're harmless, hunting Gypsy. Sowe're all cool, sweetheart. Defendant.
Yes, Hunt, it's just yourfreakouts that's staring me. Honting Gypsy.
We have that in common, Hunt, Defendant, of course we do.
Dear pardon Thursday May twenty eighteen,fifteen, Gypsy. If we are all

(59:06):
lovely again, my qutie Pie Defendant. That's great news, my Elie heart
emoji, smiley faced emoji, Gypsy, all my dear Carl meet me on
Facebook, my love. Defendant.I'm glad you picked up on that reference.
Heart Emogi, Gypsy, Lol,block out loud, Nice job,

(59:30):
cap, Defendant. I knew youwould catch onto it. Dear Gypsy Darling.
Would you tell me the movie youwant to watch with me yet?
Defendant? Oh, the same oneI have as a surprise. No,
dear, it's a surprise, Gypsy. Really lol, ong out loud?

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Oh my god, do you haveit? Defendant? No, but we'll
buy it together, Sweden, Gypsy, okay? Hon Oh if I show
you a YouTube clip of a TVshow, would you tell me if you
would watch it with me? Honey? Defendant, Well, I have to
see the clip first, Dear Friday, May twenty ninth, twenty fifteen.

(01:00:17):
Gypsy, Hey, handsome Defendant.Hey, gorgeous, Gypsy. Drool makes
you horny? Lol, you're weird, Defendant. Baby, He'll understand when
you experience it. Pardon, Gypsy, Darling, I'm safe. Long story
that tornado warning was issued. Defendant. That's good news, dear Harden notchy

(01:00:39):
Gypsy Darling can you please meet meonline? We need to talk about our
plan. Defendant. Okay, honey, hard Ety, Gypsy, I'm still
Daddy's girl. Hold me and yesit's kitty Daddy. Defendant, Baby,
why didn't you answer Daddy before?As I hold you in my lap,

(01:01:01):
Gypsy, I was taking tummy medto make me feel better, so I
put my phone Saturday, May thirtieth, twenty fifteenth. Defendant. Okay,
honey, just never change on Daddy, because I never want you to be
anything that Daddy's everything. As Irobbed you back and forth in my arms
on my lap, Gypsy, Iwon't change Daddy. I curl into your

(01:01:24):
shoulders and cuddle. Defendant. Ikeep ropping you back and forth in my
arms on my lap. Are youmy saying Daddy's girl that I reminded you
of being in the past year?Gypsy? Hey, baby, darl you
does your house have any kind ofcar? I'm looking on Google Maps,

(01:01:46):
Defendant. It depends on how updatedtheir world map is. Last time I
looked, it wasn't the right vehicle. Gypsy. Wow it's a small place,
lol. Defendant. Yeah, it'ssmall to a degree, Gypsy.

(01:02:06):
I looked at the population and it'ssmaller than the smallest town I've lived in.
I thought seven eight hundred was small, Defendant, Like I said,
it used to be a village.Now it's a town, Gypsy. I'll
adjust loll about that loud besides,smaller, less trouble, Defendant. I

(01:02:28):
hope so, because it should beeasy one to transcend to a heart emoji,
Gypsy, Are you ready like inall ways? Him? Defendant?
What do you mean here, Gypsy? For me? Defendant? If I
wasn't, I wouldn't be so eagerto be living with you here, Gypsy.

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I was supposed to get pregnant ina week and a half. Defendant.
Okay, I'm so what are yousaying? I just feel sad I'm
not Defendant, Oh, I seehim, Gypsy. Part of me is
really worried about my two What ifI could have it taken out being pregnant?

(01:03:14):
Defendant? You said you would haveit taken out, Gypsy? Could
you wait like ten months for planmeet? Defendant? So you want me
to give you pregnant again, Gypsy, I'm getting it changed hunt Defendant.
Oh, because for a second Ithought you wanted me to give you pregnant

(01:03:35):
again. Dear, Gypsy. Ijust was wondering does Big Ben had a
hospital? Besides I'm late on myperiod. Defendant. No, okay,
Gypsy, gotcha, Defendant. Mhmh, Gypsy, Let's move to Milwaukee,

(01:03:58):
Smiley, Emergia, we can staywith your mom for a little Defendant,
Milwaukee, I'd rather be living inWaukesha, Hi Gypsy. Okay,
Darling, we can look up apartmentsin guaukeshap and with the five thousand I
have, we will be set.Defendant. Good idea, Dear par Emogi

(01:04:25):
Gypsy. I don't need to marryyou to live with you, so we
can take our time with wedding.I saw Wakisha looks beautiful, and I
can paint and sell my art.Defendant, Dear, I know that,
but you mean our five thousand,true baby Gypsy, Yes, our darling,

(01:04:47):
Smiley, I'm a gypsy, andwho knows, maybe after a while
we can have a ceremony like awedding time. You would make a handsome
room, Defendant, and we'll livein my birth city, hunt part Emoji
hopefully live close to Woodlands so weget our groceries extremely cheap. Dear heart

(01:05:10):
Emogi Gypsy Walkeshaw would be a dreamcome true. Sweet Defendant. Hunt.
We're still going to follow our kind'straditions, though, Dear heart Emoji Gypsy.
Of course, Darling, Defendant.I look forward to it, my
dear heart Emogi Gypsy. I lookforward to cuddles. I dreamt about it

(01:05:35):
and you gave me oral sex.Defendant. Maybe so, but I look
forward to kissing you part emogi asI will do in the future, Gypsy
blushes. Defendant. Well, it'strue, baby, Gypsy. Will you
give me my first orgasm soon?My love? Will you finger me on

(01:05:57):
the bus? I desire pleasure tohunt, Defendant. I maybe nabby on
the buzz Just depends on the moment, depends on how naughty on part emoji
Gypsy. Well, I'm going totouch you winking face, and I'm going
to kiss you too everywhere, Defendant. Dear, I may give you permission

(01:06:19):
to part emoji winking face and Gypsygood darling smiling face Emoji Defendant. As
for the kissing, you know youcan do that on my body sweety part
Emoji Gypsy. The first movie Iwant to watch with you is Fifty Shades
of Gray. I also think weshould start with soft wet anal sex before

(01:06:40):
big time anal. Let's talk onFacebook. Lollll not out loud, Defendant,
Deer, I'll watch that with youto get us in the mood,
which depends on the time. Itcould be a later movie, Deer,
as for an old don't worry aboutthat, because it's my job as your
master to Gypsy. You make myearly parts table. Defendant. I'm glad

(01:07:05):
I do because I'm supposed to huntGypsy. I'm thinking about you in a
non way. Defendant. That's goodhard on Sunday, May thirty, first,
twenty fifty, Gypsy, You're agreat daddy, and thank you for
doing the worst for the best ofus. Defendent, you're welcome one year

(01:07:27):
Gypsy. Looking at your movie lightsand music, we couldn't be more ops.
I like country, you like metal, I like drama, you like
comedy. Goodness, this is awkward. Well, I'll expand my interests,
Defendant. Those are just a fewon Gypsy. I do like the animated

(01:07:48):
ones. Defendant, we have morein common than you may think. Gypsy
Darling, please read what I said. Defendant of Kahn Gypsy. Good morning,
my love of my life. Youknow what I'm gonna start wearing a
ring because I want to feel marriageto U. So one of my rings

(01:08:12):
from the early shot Claire will do. Defendant. Okay, Han, and
sorry I didn't answer until now,Gypsy, I need to tell you a
secret time, Defendant. Go ahead, Dear Gypsy, I never stop sucking
petiture from a baby bottle. Defendant, Baby, I already knew that,

(01:08:35):
Gypsy. You know how? Defendant, baby girl. Seriously, do you
not understand that I am with youspiritually? Spiritually I experience everything with you,
dear part Emoji. That's why thereis no point in hiding things from
me. Gypsy. Oh okay,Han, are you with me when I'm

(01:09:00):
naked? I'm going to church honeDefendant okay, Han, And I'm with
you at all times part of agypsy Darling, I'm one hundred with the
plan. Defendant. What do youmean, dear Gypsy, I'm in for
it, hon, no doubts Defendant, Okay, Darling, Gypsy, that's

(01:09:25):
all just okay, I was expectingidk or I don't know, Joy,
I guess, Defendant. Dear,of course, I'm happy part Emoji Gypsy.
Okay, good Swedien. What's yourstepdad's name? Just so I know,
defendant, Charlie. That is whatit is, hon Gypsy. Okay,

(01:09:49):
Darling cool defendant. Yes, dearGypsy, please be online defendant Oka
lemby June first n to Gypsy,so you won't end this, defendant,
I'm not saying anything. Besides,it's a waste of time, Gypsy,

(01:10:13):
get your ass back that. Asfor as I'm concerned, I'm gonna rip
you a new one, defendant that'snot worth it. I always fight for
us. It's your turn for one, Gypsy me. How the hell am
I going to fight if it's onesided? What will I wear to impress
your folk? I'm gonna go withyou. God damn defendant. I told

(01:10:38):
you I'll let you know in Kurt. Why do you say it that way,
Gypsy? I'm meeting him. I'msorry, my love, defendant.
Dear, you gave me another scare, Gypsy. Okay, Well, good
night, Hunt. I don't knowwhat's wrong with me, do you know?

(01:11:00):
Come on, baby? I knowyou com bond with me better than
that. I love, adore,and worship you, my dear true love,
Gypsy. I just did it online. At the same time, I
didn't mean it when I called alife with you trash. Defendant. Here,
it's about the sex. Like Itold you before, the sooner I

(01:11:25):
give you a orgasm. The sooneryou go back to your lovey dovey happy
self time part of it, butI just set it back to you,
Sweeten part and Orgy. Please sayit back sweet hard Gypsy. So sex
is like a tranquilizer. Loll notthat loud, Defendant, Baby, Someday

(01:11:45):
you'll how important it is in ourlife, art and origin. Gypsy.
Just forget all I said tonight,Defendant. Why do you say that,
Gypsy, I'd never meant in hurtfulthing. I'm in self destruction mode when
I'm like that, ignore me,Defendant. Well, all I could do

(01:12:09):
is hope you come back, honting, Gypsy. I want to be with
you, Defendant. I know,Dear, you scared me though I thought
I lost you, Gypsy, youalmost did. I think I'm bipolar.
Defendant, What, Baby, Idon't want to lose you, though,

(01:12:30):
and you told me that I couldn'tever lose. Now I worry I will,
Gypsy. Well, it's more Iwould push you away until you walked
away. I can't leave, butI can make you leave. Defendant.
Baby, Is that supposed to becomforting Gypsy in a way. Yes,

(01:12:50):
Hunt, Defendant, Please don't pushme away too hard, Hunting Gypsy.
Is there medication for by undefendant?Baby? If I did let you take
medication for that? Are you thinkingit would help Gypsy? How massive migraine?
I'm not sure it could be thebecause I would have jobs to Wisconsin

(01:13:15):
that night I met why you,Defendant. So are you saying it will
get better once we're in person,Gypsy? Yes, darling, that's exactly
what I'm saying. I'll still havemood swings, just not severe ones like
tonight. Defendant, Baby, pleasesay it because I'm worried still and it

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would be nice to be comforted rightnow. Gypsy, sweetie, please don't
be worried. I'm not going anywhere. Well, I'm going with you,
but I mean I'm by your side. Hunt. The ups and downs will
balance out with us speaking together inperson. Defendant. You know what I

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want to do after tonight's scare,Hunt Gypsy, have sex, loll blop
out loud, nudges your arm.Defendant, Baby, do you remember the
tangled post I gave you a whilea while ago, Gypsy? Of course,
Honey, you want to hit mewith a a frying pan tongue sticking

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out emoji. Defendant, I wantto do that right, just so I
know you aren't going anywhere. Yes, the tangled posts when both tied each
other up. I wish I couldjust so you would be stuck with me.
Part of Gypsy. You are witha little red stream heart emoji kisses

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your forehead. Defendant, how I'mGypsy. We are tied by our souls
and hearts. I might tie youup in a keepy way lol, blop
out loud. Defendant, Honey,I'm warning you, though you ever give
me a scare like that in person, I will tie you up until I'm

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sure you aren't going anywhere, becauseI want to make sure we never part.
Dear part emergy Gypsy, I won'tdo it in person. You're all
I would have in this life.Hi, sweetie, I got rest and
I'm myself again. Baby Tuesday,June second point, Gypsy, I'm one

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hundred thousand percent in. I'm ready, truly Defendant. Why you say that,
baby Gypsy? Because I finally allowmyself to accept your my every I
will go with you and live ourdream. Defendant. Okay, I'm Gypsy,
Darling, I am so sorry aboutlast night. I'm completely different.

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I'm your woman, defendant. Okay, Dear Gypsy, I will be truly
your everything. I know I've beenup and down, but Darley and nine
days, I'm yours forever, defendant, true him, true baby, both,
Gypsy, and Yes, I'm gonnafight like hell for us. Baby.

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Do you forgive me, Darley?Defendant Baby, you have a couple
questions to answer online, Gypsy,please please breathe on defendants. Okay here,
Gypsy PTW By the way, Itrash my old show broken laptop so

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we can just use one computer together. On defendant here, I answered you.
And what about all the memories ofus on your computer suite, Gypsy?
I saved them? But fuck you? You don't get do you never
mind? Defendant? Dear? Whatthe heck? Gypsy? I tried being

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there for you. All you dois make me cry. I get everything
for you, Defendant. I wastrying to be nice while explaining myself.
Then you say that, Dear,that was I'm called explaining, Gypsy.
I always put my best and yousay ninety percent bullshit. Defendant, Baby,

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I don't only make you cry.I have given you plenty of happy
memories, Gypsy, who puts upwith your overbearing ways, your ridiculous political
shift. Defendant, Dear, I'mnot trying to argue with you, so
please stop, Gypsy. I wasin a romantic mood. Now you screwed

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that to hell. Defendant. Well, sorry, I'll leave you alone.
All you do is push me away, Gypsy. Sadly, ten minutes ago,
all I wanted was to struggle withyou. Defendant, Dear, just
stop talking to me. You're onlygoing to make things worse since apparently now

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I know I can't open up toyou just because of that, and you
keep bitching, Gypsy. I openedup. I was what you wanted,
and you pushed me away. Defendant. Yeah, you told me to f
off. I guess I'll punch youback, Gypsy. Why couldn't you have

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just been loving? I'm sorry,Tim, Look, please don't spot.
Just try and understand. I wassaying how much I need you, and
you basically call me a faker.Defendant. I didn't push you away.
All I did was explain, andyou told me off. If that is
how feel that, I guess Ican't make you happy anymore. Sorry,

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I'm a failure. To you,Gypsy, can we please talk online?
Please? We're going to be livingtogether soon. You shouldn't we at least
try and make this work. Youare safe for me now. I did
the right thing. Defendant. Dear, I hope you come back. Gypsy.

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You are free, sweet part emoji. You don't have a bitch of
a girl now, Defendant free,Yes, free to die by my love,
Gypsy. Daddy Daddy crying? Whatdo you mean? Question mark my

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love? Nicholas answered, Defendant,Sweetie. If Bella doesn't come back,
I don't want anyone else, soI'll end it. My darling daughter.
Just know that Daddy always worshiped you, Gypsy. And what I don't understand,
Daddy. Defendant, I'm gone buymy everything. I'll miss you all

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and time to end it all.Gypsy? Wait, Dad, you wait?
Please end us? You mean youwon't be mine anymore? Defendant?
What does my daughter want? BeforeI go to Hell? Gypsy? I
want you to stay with me.You say you was coming to get me.

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Defendant. Dolla doesn't want me,so no one will have me but
her, So I'll go to Hell. Then if I can't have her,
Gypsy, she doesn't want you,she needs you. You have had lots
of You're handsome, Defendant. I'mdone by my love. You say you

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mean me, but you broke usoff, so I cut myself off if
you don't stop me in time,because without you, I'm nothing. Gypsy.
Are you threatening to kill yourself andyou can't, Defendant? Why,
Gypsy, because if you do,then I will as well defend Then come

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back before I do it, becauseyou know I always back up my work.
Gypsy. Please please don't do it, my love, Please please,
I want you, I do,but I'm bad for you. Stay with
me, please, Defendant. I'mabout to put the blade on my wrists
and let it bleed if you don'tcome back within the next three and that,

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Gypsy, I'm here. I'm here, my love, I'm back.
I'm back. Look, I'm goingon FB now for Facebook, Defendant.
Then I'll put the blade away fornow. You better get online if you
mean what you are saying, Gypsy, Huge kiss for the one I missed,

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and that's about. That's several hourslater. Right the round the left
is at four nine am or theothers in six eleven game get defendent,
okay to your heart emoji kissing faceemoji heart Emovie, Sweetie, I hope
you are on soon because I'm missingyou. Part Emogi Gypsy Darling, I'm

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missing you too. Just let metake a small map. Okay, baby
xoxo x Defendant Okay, Sweety sweetdreams my darling Heart emoji Gypsy Darling,
I'm on now, but read amessage sent to on our joint account.

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It's your cousin. He wants togo fishing. Defendant. Okay, Sweety
parts dijon third Gypsy, Hi,Darling, I'm sorry I fell asleep last
night without telling you. Good night. Defendant. It's all right him.
I've noticed, though you're on alot less often than you used to be.

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Deep Gypsy, I explain how I'mon right now. The defendant,
Okay, Sweet Thursday June fourth,twenty Gipsy sending hugsy because his defendant thanks
Sweden, Sweeten Gypsy. Good afternoon, Darling. Defendant, Good afternoon,

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Sweet Gypsy. Oh my god,I had so many sex dreams of you
last night. Defendant of all differentkinds here, Gypsy, Yes, Darling.
Defendant Okay, Sweet Gypsy, warningin a very sexual mood. Defendant,
Honey, you could be in atop knock sexual mood throughout our life

(01:23:50):
together and it wouldn't bother me partEmergen Gypsy. Good Darling, you're gonna
need the energy, Defendant. Whyyou say that, baby, Gypsy?
You pick it on, you pickit on, Gypsy. Message for you,
defendant, Babe, I'm already onpardon. I had to restart my

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computer gear Gypsy, okay, Darling. Friday, June fifth, twenty,
Gypsy, Darling, what color restraintsdo you want? Black or can?
Defendant? Dear, we're collecting them, but get black sweethe hard Emogi Gypsy

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okay, Darning. Saturday, Junesixth, fifteen, Gypsy, Honey,
I was wondering, say I wantedto have sex with a guy before leaving
town. It's just curious question.Loll rap out loud. Okay, So
I know you're territorial, but I'mbeing tempted sexually, Darling. Can we

(01:24:57):
talk online? Police, I'm gonnasenior napping. I thought you wasn't getting
my text high, Defendant. Iwas. I didn't hear them, though,
deer, since my phone was onvibrate. Gypsy. He agreed to
meet up. We are going toget coffee at this cupcake place. Thursday,
so that will close that it's apublic place, so all the good

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hunting, Defendant, deer still.I'm told I'll be around in the area
of it to make sure he don'tdo anything, and you have to accept
that. Gypsy. Okay, darkGypsy. What time does our buzz leave
Thursday, Defendant, six thirteen pmyear or I may be off a few

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minutes, Darling, Gypsy, Okay, I found the flower, Defendant.
That's good news, Gypsy. Imiss you hunt so much, heart emoji,
my heart is racing. I missyou so much. Part of oging.
My heart is racing, Defendant.Why is your heart racing? Gypsy?

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Because I can't wait to see you, Defendant, then we feel mutual,
dear the part e o regi GypsyDarling, you have an important message,
Defendant. Okay Baby. Sunday,June seventh, twenty fifteen, Gypsy

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Darling, I was caught on myphone but made my mom think I was
during her phone, so I haveto lay low until Wednesday. Defendant.
Okay, Dear, just try totext me when you can, Gypsy.
Okay, Baby, we can talkon sky time please, Defendant. Okay

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Baby. Monday, June eighth,twenty fifteenth, defendant. Sweetheart, just
wanting to say that I'm missing you, and also that I love, adore
and worship you my every gypsy.Hi, Darling, I'm so sorry I
did say good night. I wasmade to sleep on the front porch with
bugs, I heat and the bushes. It's been rough, Darling. I'm

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not even sure of the past word, but if it's not one angel Heart,
it would be my main gypsy roseor one gypsy rope. The good
thing is that if you forgot it, at least had your right your confirmation
number down in the card it waspurchased with it. They can We'll get
up, defendant. Okay, baby, I was hoping you would have said

(01:27:40):
our sacred words, but thanks foryour health time gypsy hy w my love
or in love? Why w isnormal? Your gypsy and I will text
defendant okay to your gypsy, Ilove, adore and worship you my everything,
Defendant. I love, adore andworship you too, my everything kinds
of infinity heart emoji Gypsy a partemoji defendant, Baby, I called the

(01:28:06):
cab company and everything is going wellpart emoji gypsy Okay, sweet good smiley
face emoji. I just a feela lot better now, smiley face emogen
Defendant. Okay, honey, partEmogen, I mean good, honey,

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Sorry good honey, heart emoji Gypsy. I can't believe he was able to
go. Your mom is okay withit, Defendant. Dear, it doesn't
matter if she is okay with itor not. I'm my own man.
Honey heart emoji Gypsy. I know, sweetie, if she knows you are

(01:28:46):
escorting me back with you, itshould be fine him Defendant. She'll know
within time, honey, part EmogiGypsy. Okay, Darling, you have
lots of guts. Heart emoji Defendant. I told you already here. Nothing
is keeping us from being together,and I meant it when I said that.

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Part of Gypsy, so do Iheart emoji. Okay, Sweety,
text me soon to give me anupdate. Heart emoji kiss or Defendant will
do my love heart emoji, kissingface emoji. Part of Dear, my
stepdad is taking me to the busstation instead. Part of Gypsy Okay sweety

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part Emogen Defendant, Dear, lookat your email. I need to know
there. Gypsy five six' ninetwo eight six eighty five Defendant, Thanks
sweetheart, heart emoji, Gypsy,I got Yo back on yw or your
local Defendant, I got your backto heart emoji update. I'm at the

(01:29:53):
bus station waiting for my time toget on the bus, Gypsy. Is
it all good? You've the tickets, Hunt, Defendant, Dear, please
go with the story I told mymom and stepdad. Yes, year,
heart emoji Gypsy. Please let mePlease let me know what story. Defendant.

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I'll tell you in person, Dear, because I'll be able to explain
it better than heart emoji Gypsy.Okay, Darling, heart emoji, I'm
not saying it. We're on Facebookto anyone. Defendant. That's good,
Darling. Party of Gypsy making upa song on the road to destiny of
blah blah lah. Defendant. Interesting, Dear Emoji Gypsy. I have been

(01:30:41):
on a bus from Hyenna's Court toBoston. I enjoyed it, Defendant Interesting.
Hunt Gypsy is big Bend and safeplace to live. Hunt Defendant,
Darling, you almost never hear ofin Big Bend Gypsy. That's wonderful,

(01:31:04):
Defendant. Yes, baby hart EmojiGypsy. You might think I'm spoiled by
how my room looks. A closetfull of member and clothes. Defendant,
I already know you're spoiled time partEllogi Gypsy, Lol, laugh out loud,

(01:31:24):
Defendant, I knew that would makeyou laugh. Year pr Emoji,
Gypsy, my heart is like boomboom boom. I don't think it knows
how to be calm when you're gonnabe with me. Defendant, Lol,
not out loud. That's a goodthing, Dear, part Eogen Gypsy Darling.

(01:31:45):
I'm gonna go to the er,get my two changed. I'll be
off my phone for a few hours. Defendant. Okay, han be saved,
party, Gypsy, U two sweetheartdefend all right, Darling, Heart
Emoji Defendant. Update, Dear,I'm on the bus to Chicago. Update

(01:32:08):
Darling, I'm on my way toSaint Louis. Four hours later. Yea
update, Dear, I'm at thebus station of Champaine, Illinois. Hoped
to be in San Louis soon,Gypsy Darling, I'm home. Defendant.
That's good, Dear hard Emoji.I'm glad you made it, Gypsy.

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It was a six hour way inthe r Defendant. Wow, Gypsy,
at least it's done, so we'regood for a year. It can be
done even by me, but Iwon't unless I have I missed you,
baby, Defendant, I missed youtoo, Sweetheart, part Emoji, honey,

(01:32:49):
sorry I didn't answer right away.I didn't feel it vibrate here.
Dear, I guess you are eitherbusy or not online anymore. I guess
you aren't able to keep in companyright now. I hope you're back soon,
because I'm already missing you. PartyGypsy, Hi, sweeeny, I'm
here, Heart Emogion, I justate and took a bath time. Are

(01:33:15):
you listening to your iPod? HonDefendant, yay, I'm glad you are
part Emerging Gypsy loll a laugh outloud. Defendant, okay, no,
baby, just waiting for a textfrom you and paying attention to my surroundings.
Heart Emogen Gypsy okay, Sweetheart,Well I was able to make peace

(01:33:35):
with mom. Defendant. I knewyou would. I believed in you that
you could do it for full time. Dear, part Gypsy, I feel
better, part Emogi. I justcan't believe you're like in Missouri and it's
so overwhelming in a good way,Defendant, I hope in a good way,

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hun, Heart Emogion Gypsy, Yes, darling, in a great way,
Hun, I feel so excited Defendant. I'm glad you feel mutually about
the situation, Darling, heart emojismiley faced emoji heart emogy Gypsy. Tomorrow
is the last night we sleep alone, defending true Baby. However, I'm

(01:34:20):
going to pay for nights separately partEmoji Gypsy. Okay, Hans, Defendant,
So the night you come to thehotel is another separate night from tomorrow,
Dear, part emoji Darling. Asyou know, I'm trying to save
as much money as I can PartEmogi Gypsy. I know, baby,

(01:34:44):
and you don't need to pay forme to sleep with you at the hotel.
I will sneak with you, Defendant, I know, dear, that's
what I pray on doing part emergyGypsy. Good Hunt, Defendant, Dear,
don't deny it. You even knewthat was what I was planning on
doing. Part Emoji Gypsy. Well, yeah, I'm your gal. Bring

(01:35:11):
you back to your hotel, winkwink, Defendant with pleasure, my dear,
heart emoji winking face emoji heart emogen. Guess you are busy, Hunt.
I guess you aren't able to keepme company right now. Again.
I hope you're back soon, becauseI'm already missing you again. Hint,
gypsy bites lips we climb back himdefendant Lola out loud, Nice way to

(01:35:39):
come back, sweet part of thetwo stay three nine, that should be
twenty fifteen. All love a break. I think they're really all right.
Party good. Reminds of what youwere told at the first resays to the
court until you retired to consider thesebirds. You must not discuss this case
of love yourselves or with others,or permit anyone to discuss it in your

(01:36:03):
hearing. You should not form orexpress any opinion about the case until it
is finally given to you to decide. Do not do any research or investigation
on your own about any matter regardingthis case or anyone involved with the trial.
Do not communicate with others about thecase by any games. Do not

(01:36:25):
review or listen between the newspaper,radio, electronic communication from the internet,
or television report from the trial.Okay, so we will take about fifteen
minute recess here. We'll come backto four o'clock if you finish up with
the text messages. Okay, alrise,