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Welcome to the Full Time Fantasy Podcast. Please have it by the Fantasy Football
World Championship, home to the industry'smost accurate rankings. What is up,
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everybody? Welcome to the Full TimeFantasy Podcast. I am your host as
always, Adam Krautwerzon with me againbecause you can't get us out of the
top ten of the FFWC main event. There is Jack cole Sheen. We're
not leaving. I feel like we'reon that. Leonardo DiCaprio, Yeah,
I'm not leaving. Yeah yeah,Wolf of Wall Street there you go right
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to WOLFL Wall Street. So welcomeagain Jack, and we'll talk about that
team in a little bit. Butuh, what's up, buddy? Happy,
Happy to have you tonight. Yeah, just get the kids to bed,
set everything up, good to go, good to talk football. So
people have no idea, Like everyone'slike, oh, you know, podcasts
create like listen if you don't doit full and even if you do do
it full time. If you don'tdo it full time, you didn't even
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like yeah, putting the kids tolike eight seconds before we go live,
it's like, don't do your homework, Like like I just I literally walked
in from from a two hour basketballpractice. I'm like eating as the song's
playing, i haven't had dinner likemadness, but I love it. I'm
happy, happy to do it,uh for sure. So so yeah,
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man, before you even get going, what a great like we weekend for
fantasy football. I mean it wasan exciting weekend, like because you know
some weekends you get those awful ones. But it was high, high scoring.
A lot of the like the guysthat we had to play we talked
about last week, some guys weretalked about this week. I know last
week we're talking about Keith Mitchell.He might be the last of the the
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last of the of the running backs. Man. We had to start him
in some spots and text questions Kate, and I'm like, let's go Mitchell.
Was a fun, fun weekend.It was we needed that. There
had been kind of some frustrating slates, especially the early afternoon the past couple
of weekends, but to see somesome real legit shootouts. You know,
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did Detroit Chargers That was a fantasticgame. There's just a number you know
CJ. Stroud doing And again there'sjust a lot of exciting games and even
even the terrible games were still liketerribly entertaining. There's some suspense there.
So yeah, for for for sure, I kicked myself because I picked up
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you know, I had to,you know, the gumption to pick up
like a lot of Irwin and alot of Noah Brown. But I didn't
start him everywhere. It's I startedWatson over Noah Brown in some spots like
what a dummy. But uh,you know, I'll learn from from my
mistake there. But I don't wantto get this show started off on the
wrong foot. But we already haveWe already have a question here, and
I know that I know it's gonnait's gonna go to get you off on
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the wrong foot already from Daniel,would you drop JSN for Quentin Johnston in
the light of the day to dayinjury for Keenan Allen who was hopeful to
play. Listen, those are fightingwords around these jack our js and apologists.
He's contractually obligated to talk about JSN. That's right through fiscal year twenty
twenty four. So uh, theanswer is no, absolutely not. I
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think the long term value of JSMand just the entire Seattle Seahawks receiving corps
with the schedule they have between nowand the end. There's just too much
value to give it up. Uh, you know, for for potentially one
week or maybe not at anything.This is just Wednesday night. He might
just he he uh you know,Keenan Allen actually finished the game this past
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weekend. This could just be someveterans incredible that he could, by the
way, yeah yeah, see hecould come back on limited practice on Friday
and still be fine to go.So also, Quinton Johnston is bad,
right, So I mean, yeah, we'll get to it, but you
know it's going to Jalen Geiton orStone Smart or you know, like before,
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it's going to Quentin Johnston. Andlisten, we're not saying he'll always
be bad and I didn't and Iliked him in college the way, but
he was a short you know,they're they're using him the way that they
shouldn't be using him. But anyways, even if, like you said,
even if Keenan Allen's out, youmight not even want to start Quintin Johnston.
The the the Packers are the twofor seventh worst matchup for fantasy receivers.
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So it's not even like now granted, now there's been some movement there.
Obviously they made it trade with theBills to some one of their top
corners over there and stuff like that, but you still don't want to have
to start quitting Johnston. Long storyshort, but but all right, yah,
let's we want to talk about someutilization this week because things are always
changing. People are coming back frominjuries, teams are coming off of bie
weeks. We want to talk aboutstuff like that and speaking of coming back
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off an injury, and on andon our big h you know, FFWC
team World Championship team in the topten. Kyler Murray returned to action and
looked completely healthy. I didn't getto watch a lot of this game.
I didn't see a lot of histhrows. But man, I turned on
the TV and he ran like hejust a vintage Kyler Murray twenty yards behind
the line of scrimmage, circled allthe way back around. And I think
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that's when you text me, likeKyler's back, I think when you text
me it was a forty five yardrun to game twenty and he looked he
looked like like his old his hisold self. Well what did you think?
Yeah, no, it could havebeen an even bigger day because he
threw just a tear drop to MarkusBrown in the end zone probably a thirty
five years passed. That was justthings. Yeah, I think the more
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important thing is not only just theeye test. He looked his dynamic athletic
self. But the coaching staff seemsto agree because they gave him four designed
runs, not the uh that theClayton tune Tush push runs, but four
design runs in space, which certainlydemonstrates confidence in his recovery and demonstrates that
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they're going to use it like Kylerthat we're used to seeing. Yeah,
four zone runs seventeen percent of theruns, which which is in line with
what he normally does at fifteen percent. Josh Allen would love for seventeen percent
of the team teams run runs forthe Bills. Uh yeah yeah, maybe
we'll get into that later. Butyeah, Kyler's fine, he's back.
I would say, you're you're goodto start him. Now. We've got
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Stroud. So we've got decisions everyweek now between Stroud and Kyler at which
is good. Good decisions to have. The who does Arizona have this week?
They've Houston Houston. Well, thereyou go, get a Strouler,
right, that's right, and thatis in Houston. So it's a dome,
which is which, which is nice. We're not gotta word about the
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weather. And they're both pretty neutralmatchups, so I think, And Nico
Collins is back this week, andthe weapons go from like, yeah,
I'm always shooting off topic. Ijust love talk talking ball. The Houston
weapons are getting better now too.You got Noah Brown, looks good.
Nico Collins is back, tank,tank doll, the whole thing there.
So and you know what, let'slet's let's keep going on that because I
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because I'd love to pick your brainon stuff. Devin Singletary, I mean,
we weren't planning to talk about himtonight, but there, you know
we're out of Houston. Is thathe like fits the offense better for what
they like to do there, whichis crazy because in Buffalo he was like,
eh, he was like nothing atall. But he certainly is a
is a decent pass catcher. I'mwondering if he's the number one guy there
even when Pierce game he gets back, what do you think, Well,
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the Pierce injury certainly opened the door, and then prior to that, Pierce
wasn't exactly standing out. He wasstruggling, and if I remember right,
it kind of broke down to almosta fifty to fifty time share prior to
the injury. So I think thisis like the classic case of you know,
fantasy bias versus real world usage.We want to go for the younger,
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more explosive rookie or you know,in this case, second year or
running back, whereas I think DevinSingletary's advantage is that he is good enough
at most things. He doesn't haveto be you know, particularly dynamic in
one area steving. He can justbe out there and things won't go too
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poorly, which you know, alot of coaches value that reliability. So
I could certainly see you know,a return to the fifty to fifty time
share. But I could see Singletarygetting a lot more of the high value
touches and Pierce just kind of eatingthe up the middle runs when they have
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them, which the Houston offens arebecoming, you know, less and less
each week. Yes, you haveto remember the coach comes from San Francisco
outside zone scheme and they're saying Singletaryis just a better outside zone outside zone
scheme runner. I me Damian Piercejust it looks like everything's so hard for
him, Like every carry he's gotto shed five tackles and stuff like that.
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Was it just looks easier for forfor singletary. So that'll be something
to keep keep an eye on ifyou have single Harry. Hopefully they keep
Pierce out for another week or soto kind of you can throw him back
and back in the starting lineup.But all right, moving on to a
running back that I was super highon in the off season. This was
very intriguing for me to see comingout, coming off the David Montgomery injury
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and the and the bye week.But Gibbs is a guy that I'm so
over, overweight down. I lovethis talent. I'm walking around Vegas with
a jersey on like open a night, like let's go the only you know
I was. I wore it allnight long. We went out to the
bars after in Vegas and everyone's like, go Lions. I'm like, I
don't care about the Lions. GoGibbs. By the way. That feels
like ten years go by the way. We were no kidding age, It's
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like dog ears or something. That'sright. But Gibbs was not Gibbs was.
It was a fifty to fifty splitessentially with Gibbs and Montgomery, which
is normally be like all that stinks, but from where he was with Montgomery
and the split looks like it's everyother drive looks like they're just rotating drive.
So you talk about Gibbs got twocarries inside, he scored two touchdowns
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mits at the five. He's nottheir goal line back. He's just their
back for that for that drive.And it kind of sounds gross to do
with it that way, but listen, whatever gets him to fifty percent of
all that work, And I'm I'mfine with you, know what I mean,
because we were drafting and base thinkingthat he would not that he'd be
like a thirty thirty five percent carryguy to touch guy. If you're gonna
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get fifty percent, I'll take it, right. I see. I was
expecting the more full throated, uhGibbs propaganda coming from you, like the
Gibbs is taking over the backfield.This is going to be mostly Gibbs because
I was going to push back becausesome people have some people have made that
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claim this week, and I thinkthe utilization does get a little skewed because
of the what like seventy four yardtouchdown run that that David Montgomery had,
So it certainly inflates the Gibbs proportionbecause that was just one play instead of
multiple snaps and targets run, targetson the route run and things like that.
The other pushback is that there Isaw an interview from Gibbs today on
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another podcast, not on this one, not yet got Yeah yeah, mystery
guest, and Gibbs said on thepodcast that David Montgomery was actually going to
be subbed in for the one yardtouchdown. He sent them back out there
and then he specifically he wanted togive it to him so that he could
have it. So, you know, like you said, that's great day.
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I think this is a case ofI think people got a little bit
of sticker shock or a little bitof sudden change coming back and not having
David Montgomery be just the bell cowwith Gibbs is the you know, kind
of third downstyle back. I thinkit's gonna be fifty to fifty, but
I also think it's gonna be oneof those where neither owner is disappointed.
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That's it. Like listen at thebeginning of the year. I was super
high on Gibbs and then it wasdevastated for weeks, right, and then
all of a sudden, Montgomery goesout. Gibbs is phenomenal. So the
fact that, like I was,I was expecting devastation again, to be
honesty, I mean I was startinghim, obviously, But the fact that
I got fifty to fifty split,I'll take it the trauma. That's the
trauma. You were defending yourself,but I was in shock. I was
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in shock, So I'll take itfor sure. Yeah, They're both excellent
at what they do. Gibbs asuper explosive the lie. I really like
the Lion's offense man, and likeyou said, the Dome games at the
end at the end of the year, for a team like them, they
could be a great offensive line justyou know everything they have. They have
reason to play for these games.You know this exact run coaching. Yeah,
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for sure. So so yeah,Arrow pointing up for Gibbs and Montgomery.
Uh, were moving forward. Buta guy that we talked a lot
about last week, and like ourfree agent waiver wire session, a guy
that I've been pretty high on,not from my own kind of takes,
but my other my coach to myother podcast, The Deep End, Mike
Chope was very high on him earlyon. So I had a lot of
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Keith and Mitchell already and you recommended, hey, listen, this might be
the last chance you get at aback with really good opportunity and a really
good offense and something that can sospend your fad dollars. He didn't get
the touches we were hoping for heand he dropped the long touchdown pass.
But he gets that touchdown. NowHarbaugh's talking about giving him more touches.
What do you think about about KeatonMitchell? See, you know, he
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dropped that long touchdown pass, butyou know, the burying the lead of
he was getting deep red zone targetsas a running back and not necessarily you
know, a sizable one at that. So I think they were trying to
use him in creative ways and notyou know, kind of gadget ways,
but actually incorporating him into the flowof their offense. They want to do
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that even more, and to me, it seems like he two thirds took
the Justice Hill role this past weekand the full takeover I'm expecting this upcoming
week with Harbaugh saying they want toget him even more involved. And I'm
wondering too. I mean, thismight be Galaxy braining it. But he
was coming off a hamstring, right, I know he was getting the touches
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early on, like he was theguy outside of Gus Edwards gets the goal
line stuff obviously, but like,maybe you know, they knew they had
a Thursday night game coming up,a big game against the Bengals, we'd
be like, hey, let's let'splay Justice. So let's ease off Mitchell
with the hamstring and let's save himor save somebody this Thursday night game.
And then Harbach comes out and says, hey, we're gonna we're gonna use
a more movie moving forward. Soyou know, maybe that again, it's
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a tough maybe we'll talk about thatduring our start sit. It's a tough
guy to be like, man,after you know, only twenty two percent
of the snap share on a Thursdaynight game, can I trust this guy
as my flex option? I thinkit really depends on your other option,
maybe even sometimes that it's an RBtwo option. I mean, you got
Jonathan Taylor out, you got acouple other players out this week with bye
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weeks and stuff, so so we'llsee, we'll see, we can.
We could talk about that moving forward, but it's just it's a very interesting,
very gutsy kind of play call.And I think compared to you know
what we were just talking about thatrunning back duo in Detroit, if you
squint, you know, the GusEdwards, Keaton Mitchell combination could be like
a discount David Montgomery Jamior Gibbs,very similar in terms of ability, explosiveness,
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the size relative to one another,and kind of the roles they'd play
in those offenses. And they're bothin you know, great quality offenses that
are going the distance. So Icould see a similar sort of situation shaking
out in Timore. Again. Youknow, everybody's happy except for if you
own Justice Hill or Craig Reynolds.That's right, that's right. But but
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moving on to to another running backand a backfield that hey, like when
we when I said I wanted totalk about James Connor, that was before
we got the Michael Carter signing.There. Now in the last couple a
couple of hours, what what whatdo we think about that? I mean,
Connor reclaimed it, you know,got the number one back roll,
right, right out of the gate, which is what we're hoping for,
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which is what we wanted to see. You know, he didn't get a
lot of the passing down work thatwe're used to seeing, but we were
we would expect a little bit moreof that going going forward. Also familiarity
with with Kyler Murray and then theoffense. So it was good. It
was good from what we saw.But are you worried about does Michael Carter
signing mean anything? Didn't you?I mean he's very quick, like he
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gets put on waivers and bang,the Cardinals pick him, pick him right
up. Yeah. I think thisis not going to be the same James
Connor that we saw, you know, especially last year and then early this
season in sort of that bell cowworkhorse doing you know, a little bit
of everything role. And I thinkthe reason for that is, you know,
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we've got Kyler back, so Ithink there's less of an emphasis on
just running the ball in order tohide whatever quarterback you're trying to use last
year or this year. You've alsogot a much more developed offense that's being
used a lot more effectively in thepassing game, so that James Connor doesn't
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have to be targeted as often.You know, Trey McBride has really started
to come online. They had amuch better usage for Ronde Moore in Week
ten in terms of getting target shareddeeper downfield. Marquis Brown is still there,
Michael Wilson is a great boundary receiver, big bodied guy, So they
have I think more weapons that havecome further along, either earlier in this
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season or compared to last season.So I would expect fewer targets to running
backs overall. You know, again, also Kyler's the ability to scramble to
extend plays instead of using checkdowns,so I would expect fewer overall, but
a more efficient offense that is gettinginto the red zone more often and so
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a more volatile touchdown upside week toweek. So yeah, a little bit
more boombust of a profile compared tokind of the median outcome. But but
still somebody that's going to help,especially with the state of running back.
Yeah. Yeah, and we'll getinto some dumpster diving here in a minute,
but I might be adding Michael Carterto that mix because I think that
you know, they signed it forlike, he's a really good pass catching
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running like look really good at atthat role and if they still want that
and they don't want to get counterbanged up because he's always hurt. I
think he'd be a nice piece forthem. And if you got him on
your fantasy team, I would notI would not cut him. I moved
on to the Seattle backfield. Backfieldthat's kind of been flip flopping. It
has peoples frusturing. If you reallyinvested kind of heavily and Kenneth Walker,
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you're excited if you have Zex's Charbonay. You know he Sharbay took all the
long down in distance, he tookthe two minute snaps, Kenneth walked the
early down work. But Walker stilllooks looks great. But when you're gonna
lose all that work, and youknow, Pete Carroll just freaking love Zach
Sharbaay just talks about any chance youcan get, you know, you're just
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not getting those those upside smash games. I mean, Walker was getting away
with it earlier because he was scoringtwice every game from the two yard line
the three yard line. Like now, when those start to disappear and you're
not getting the pass down work,there's not there's not much left there.
Yeah, and I think, youknow, Kenneth Walker's profile always was this
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very boom, but he was theKadarius Tony of running backs to a degree,
like it was it was just marginalfor however many attempts and then one
of them breaking free for forty fiveyards. That's just sort of his game.
And I think as the Seahawks offenseis functioning better because their offensive line
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is improving, JSN continues to develop, and they're getting a much better schedule,
I think there's going to be moreof an emphasis on the running game
by Pete Carroll to preserve leads.And that's sharpen A. You know,
he kind of got pigeonholed as moreof a pass catching back, but he's
also just good. He's consistent inhis success rate and is able to have
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some burst and get the yardage theyneed to burn clock and you know,
to preserve leads, whereas Kenneth Walkercould you know, stop drives just as
easily as he could finish them.Right. Yeah, No, those are
good points, and like they're notlike like you said, the schedule is
easy, it's getting easier for thepass game, and so like Kenneth Walker
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is not able to eat because I'mlooking at the starch track of the schedule.
They don't have one easy game leftthe rest of the year, and
they have four really hard ones,you know, and that doesn't even include
San Francisco twice. They're not evenconsidered like a super hard one. But
like they certainly kick knby. Solike he's got a very tough schedule down
down the structure. I don't seethat being able to close out games against
San Francisco twice, Dallas Philly.You know, it's gonna it's gonna be
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tough for him to really smash.And that's kind of what you're looking for
down the stretcher. So I thinkif you're if you, if you're heavily
invested in Walker, I wouldn't betoo excited. But again, one injury
to Walker or Charbonne and the otherguy is gonna smash. So absolutely,
yeah, yeah, exactly, allright, moving on to the last uh
actually that was the last one ofour of our kind of guys. We
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were gonna go over here for youutilization, and now we're gonna move on
to some dumpster diving stuff. Andyou got a beautiful name right off the
top here coming out of the byeweek. Coming out of the bye week,
talk to me about Justin Watson isa guy that you want to grab
off the off the scrap heap herefor so so I gotta ask, are
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you a like a conspiracy theory guyat him? Are you like it we
land on the moon? It wasthe one shooter of Kennedy. Like my
internet drops three times a day,there's no way we let it in the
moon seventy years ago. Okay,got it? Got it? Okay.
Reason being, I think if youlisten to the argument I'm about to give
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to Justin Watson, it's going tosound conspiracy theory at skin parts. I'm
going to be asking a lot ofwhat ifs. But this is what I
want to get on tape now.Like we put this in the dumpster diving
segment for a reason. Yes,this is a desperation play. But of
all of them, I think it'sinteresting because in week nine before the Chiefs
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by sky, Moore was reduced toonly twenty nine percent of routes, which
is a huge decrease week to weekin his role, who saw the biggest
uptake? It was not Rashie Rice, it was Justin Watson. In week
nine, he had a season highseventy one percent of routes. Next highest
was sixty percent in Week four.So again, this is a substantial,
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not accidental increase in the routes thathe ran, and he ran more routes
than any other Chiefs receiver. InWeek nine, he was targeted on twenty
percent of those routes. That washis second highest rate of the season,
only to Week one and twenty fivepercent. He had nineteen percent target share.
This was a season high. Hewas beating out his Week one rate
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by eight percent and he led allKansas City wide receivers in target share.
We know Kansas City has been rotatingtheir wide receivers all season. They've been
rotating all their wide receivers since lastseason. It's you know what they've been
doing, and it's been a nightmare. But here's the tinfoil hat time.
Yes, what if Andy Reid hasfinally pulled the plug on the sky more
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experiment. This has failed. We'redone with this. This is just a
waste of routes. You know,the bye week is always the time that
we look for teams to make schemeadjustments so that they have the time to
install those adjustments and who better tospring a scheme adjustment on than the Philadelphia
Eagles, their Super Bowl rivals,and also the second best matchup for Fantasy
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football wide receivers at this point.So Justin Watson forty seven percent of Kansas
City's air yards in Week nine.Forty seven percent of Kansas City's air yards
in Week nine, and he hada He has over the course of the
season a one point five to oneyards per route run, which is modest,
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but it's surprisingly better than Jakobe Myers, Yeah, DeVonta Smith, Terry
McLaurin, Courtland Sutton. And whenit comes to separation, it's not even
close on the Chiefs receivers. It'sJustin Watson by a mile. So all
that being said, you could doa whole lot worse. And I'm pretty
confident that even as persuasive as Ican be, he's not only on your
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waiver wire, but you can probablyget him for a buck. He is
a fantastic matchup this particular week,and there is the chance that if the
trend continues and they consolidate their widereceiver tree, that he could be a
receiver down the stretch to flex inthose important weeks to get to the playoffs
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and then once you're there. Yeah, super interesting. Justin Watson, justin
Watson on the clock. It's interesting. And the problem that I have doing
stuff like that, not that you'renot right, is at this time of
year finding the roster space and alot of these teams, like who am
I going to drop? Like asI'm trying to get two defenses primed for
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the playoff run. And the greatthing about FWC is you only need one
kicker because it's team kicker, Soas long as they don't have a bye
week, you're good there. Butit's it's finding the players. Am I
dropping Josh Kelly? Am I dropping? You know? Will Levis? How
many quarterbacks am I carrying? Like? Who can I drop for him?
I would? I would? Ilove that idea for like a like a
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one week d best play, makehave have him make you a ton of
money this this week in DFS asa free scratch off. You've uncovered though,
my reverse sy op to get peopleto drop the Kansas City Defense.
That's right, so great idea.I love it. Next listen, Kanja
City Defense already on waivers this weekbecause they're coming out coming off of BUYE
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I was surprised and how many spotsthe Kansas City Defense was, uh speaking
of speaking of dumpster diving. Butyeah, no, that's that's all.
That's all great stuff. And listen, someone's something's got to happen coming out
of that bye week. I personallythink it's going to be Jack Jack McKinnon.
I think he's gonna be the guythat they start to get going more.
He scored going into the bye weekon a on a reception like,
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he's the guy who smashed last yearwhen a ton of people money down the
stretch. So he's the guy thatI'm leaning on. But he's rostered everywhere
they get Jerrick McKinnon. So JustinWatson, is your is your your your
number one dumpster rest of season?All right? Who else you got who's
number two on you? In yourlist? So we were talking a little
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Quinton Johnston earlier. So if I'mgoing to have that take on Quinton Johnston,
I should probably assume the targets aregoing somewhere. So the argument for
Jalen Geiton is as follows. Yeah, number one, Week ten, he
ran eighty five percent of routes.That was the exact same as Quinton Johnston,
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and he had a fifteen percent targetshare, which was more than Quentin
Johnston fifteen you know, not winningany weeks on its own, but still
a valuable piece, especially when youconsider number two Keenan Allen, Gerald Everett,
Donald Parum. All didn't practice todaywith new injuries. Now I think
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Keenan Allen's likely to come back,but you know, there's still in the
range of outcomes that he sits fora week, and Gerald Everett has been
spotty at best. Donald Parum here'sthe replacement to that. So it has
to go somewhere. Because number three, Justin Herbert is going to throw the
ball at or above league average.We could just take that as a given
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in this upcoming matchup, and yeah, for it turns out the Quinton Johnston
is not good. And that's notto say that he's not good as a
human being or even as a playerwith potential, but I think at this
point in his career and what they'reasking him to do, you know,
with Mike Williams getting injured and nowall of a sudden, you know,
go be Mike Williams. I don'tthink that was his game and he wasn't
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ready, you know, I thinkthey could use him in a different role,
but he's not a wide receiver onein this offense, so neither is
Jalen Geidon. But the ball hasto go somewhere, and as far as
likelihood of you know, succeeding,I think Guiden's the pick at least in
week ten and jump sure driving purposes, that's right. And Guten's flash in
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the past like he's scored and youknow before for then he's been there for
a couple of years now, youknow. So Yeah, No, I
I like the and pick a lot. He's a guy that's available everywhere on
waivers, and he's a guy thatI've been I've been putting little waiver clens
on. And plus he could bea guy you know what's his name is
out for for four weeks. I'mtrying to for Josh Palmer. Palmer's alto
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you can have a role for threemore weeks, you know what I mean.
So, like that's why I likethe guy. The guy ad Yeah,
I mean they I'm not sure ifthey can lose anyone else, like
if it's possible, you know,like Mike Williams, Josh Palmer, Keenan
Allen injured Gerald, Everett Donald Park. Like, I know, it sounds
like the Bill's defense. It hasto go to him eventually, That's right,
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that's right. But no, Idefinitely like that too. Uh.
Their their schedule is a little bittough coming up, but but it's it's
Herbert. They're gonna be flinging therock all all over the place. All
right, who's your who's your numberthree? In your last one? Here?
Yeah, one more ugly one.But we actually did talk this guy
a little bit last year or lastlast week in our preparing for the playoff
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segment. Rashad Bateman Baltimore. Solast week he ran a season high seventy
seven percent of routes, he sawa season high twenty percent of targets.
He saw twenty five percent of Baltimore'sair yards, which was his second highest
rate of the season. And likewe talked about last week, Baltimore wide
receivers have the second best strength ofschedule from weeks fifteen to seventeen. You
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know, they've got those plus matchupsagainst Jacksonville, San Francisco, and Miami,
those defenses that sound harder but areactually pretty good to attack in the
secondary. So you know this isone of those again unsettled receiver rooms.
It's been shifting around all season.Mark Andrews is the constant. But we
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know this offense is going places.We know it's going to make a deep
run. Somebody is going to haveto step up. Odell Beckham Junior's been
having injury problems, you know,on and off the field. Rashod Bateman
is not necessarily the you know,the saint of good health, but at
this point he seems to be notonly back on the field, but but
back on the field to the pointwhere they're increasing his usage and able to
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get him out there more often.So maybe this is what the full recovery
looks like. It could very easilybe him. It might not, but
it's a shot at a wide receiverone or two for that team on one
of the best offenses in the leagueright now. Yeah. I mean,
the guy's a former first round pick. He's three years into his career.
Like he's flashed brilliantly for them,for that that team. I mean,
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again, I know it's a newoffensive coordinator and maybe he's out there running
win sprints, but I still believein the talent. I loved him coming
out of college. He was greatas a rookie, he was great as
a second year player, just careerkind of derailed by injury. If he's
healthy, certainly has a shot andthe schedule is fantastic down the stretch for
the receivers too. So no,I definitely like that. He's available in
a lot of leagues too, butI have to admit him. And like
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Treylon Burk's or like the guys thatlike are right on my like cutlet so
like players nineteen and twenty, likedo I want to if I want to
add a player like I got,Usually they're the one that's like, hey,
I'm not dropping a running back becauseI never dropped running backs. If
somebody's got to go, and usuallyit's one of them. Yeah, Yeah,
I think the first two Watson andGeiden are kind of the flyers that
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you pick up and see how theydo after this week and cut them otherwise.
And like you said, Rashad Batemanavailable in a lot of leagues,
but he's also kind of in theroster bubble on the rest of them,
so you know you got him andconsidering dropping him for some attractive option this
week. It's actually somebody that Iwould say hold on for one more week,
see if this usage sticks, andyou know, make your decision then,
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but keep them for one more weekthen go from there for sure.
Yeah, all right, a guythat I the one guy that I have
who a player that I've had before. He's flashed before. And like I
said, I never dropped running backs. I'm always adding running backs, do
you Ernest Johnson? Speaking of usage, I mean, where is Tank Bigsby?
Tank Bigsby, where have you gone? He was one of my most
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drafted players in the off season,with bigsb the all the coach speaking,
all the stuff coming out of Jacksonville. And it was one of the reason
why I was kind of off ETNbecause people are like, man, Bigsby
might just outplay Etn for that startingrole, not all the starting role,
but you know, work his wayinto a time share like a Jalen Warren
type situation that hasn't happened. Bigsbyhas been completely irrelevant. But Deeranis Johnson
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comes in here, gets a twentyone percent snapshare, twelve twelve snaps,
three carries, two targets, andso he gets involved more. And now
of that was before Bigsby even getsguy gets in the game for this,
So I think he's a guy.Again it's a dumpster dive whatever, but
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man, you always want to beadding running backs because if ETN does go
down, someone's got to have totake that role. And if it is
Deernest jet Like, if it ishim, your set, your gold.
You had an RB two there inthat situation that you can get right now,
He's not rostered anywhere. But Ithink this this week with the during
the Jotson starting, and he's beenin this league a couple of years and
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has shown like he was a workhorsefor for the Browns. He stood in
for Nick Chubb for a few weeksand and had delivered some some powerful Fantasy
football performances exactly exactly. So Ithink I think he's a guy that I
think if if you got room orif you want to cut a running back
for a running back, he mightbe the guy that you can you can
do it for. Yeah, Andyou know, just to riff on or
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hate a little bit more on TankBigsby because man, like I think I
heard that he like he's the worstgraded running back in the league by PFF,
and I think it's because like it'snot just that he's not being used
very often. He's like, it'snot inefficiency, it's like reverse efficiency.
Every time he's on the field,it's it's like catastrophic, like that he
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tipped the ball last week that ledto an interception, he's fumbling, He's
like turning the ball over in theend zone. Like it's all these every
time, just a catastrophic error.And I think we've seen this a couple
of times during the season where DenisJohnson's snaps start to go up, and
you know, Tank Bigsby has cameback up before, and then there's some
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catastrophic error and it plummets back downagain. I think eventually Jacksonville, he's
going to be in some some mustwin games for their playoff picture, and
they're not going to be able tojust give him some more time and let
him play play through it. They'regonna have to go with the person who's
been a known quantity and a performerin you know, high leverage situations before,
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and that's been Darrenis Johnson. Yeah, for sure, So I think
I think I like that pickup.We have a question here from Daniel again,
what are our thoughts on Christian Watsonand Jerry Judy, what do I
do with them? And man,this the Judy question doesn't bother me as
much because I don't have much JerryJudy. As much as I liked the
player, I just wasn't in onthe Broncos offense. Christian Watson though,
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I just was blindly taking him asa year or two breakout. You know,
I didn't think Jordan Love was gonnabe this kind of bad, like
just inefficient and just the offense looksso bad. I mean, I think
Christian Watson forty eight completion percentage number, forty percent catchup Banes, I'll look
that way. Yeah, It's it'sjust he's not the ball isn't anywhere near
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him, or he's dropping it,or they're just not on the same the
same page, like I know,listen, I know Rogers was there last
year. Rogers a Hall of FamerMVP. But what happened to these ten
yard crossing routes that the guy canjust take to take to the houses.
None of that. It's all likethrowing up a prayer, you know,
underthrowing. I mean, he's madesome crazy catch you get hurt on two
weeks ago was an insane touch,But again it was a bad, bad
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pass. Meanwhile, it feels likehe's always clicking with Jaden Reid or you
know, all the other guys there. Dobbs is getting like they should to
be connecting. I don't know what'sgoing on there with Chritrys Jo Watson.
What do you think? I mean, it's one of those where you can't
really understand the underlying driver, likeis it Jordan Love, is it Christian
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Watson? At the end of theday, it really doesn't matter though,
because that connection between the two ofthem, that is the worst quarterback wide
receiver connection on that team when youknow, you look at passer rating and
just all of the peripheral statistics,and I don't know whose fault it is,
but there's clearly they are not onthe same page, Jordan Love and
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Christian Watson. And I think thisis going to be another one of those
situations where eventually you just can't tryto force feed it anymore and you have
to go with what works. Andright now that's Dobbs and that's Read And
also musk Grave has been playing likea deeper role than you'd traditionally see with
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a tight end. There's been youknow, some deep bombs to Musk,
which I think they're both trying outas an alternative to Christian Watson and certainly
eating into some of those those routesthat he was so successful in last season.
And listen, the scary thing aboutlike I should have I wanted to
start Noah Brown last week and abunch of spots over Watson two or three.
I mean I did. I didget enough Noah Brown in. But
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the thing that scares about Watson isman, He's he can make you pay.
You don't start in one week.He can make your pay at four
targets. He could go three forone, seventy and three, And it's
just like, oh my god,Like that's that's the scary part about it.
And I guess that's like Watson,and and I guess then that's exactly
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the reason why, in response toDaniel's question, like what do you do
with them? You you let himburn a hole on your bench until you
get at least a sign of life, because you know you are going to
hate yourself even more if you drophim now, and then in two weeks
he starts to you know, finallybreak out. Then if you just let
him eat up that twentieth spot.That'll hurt, but not near as bad,
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right, right? Exactly? Yeah, I mean we might as well
the packer, who do the packersof this week? Do we already talk
about this? I think we did? Uh chargers chargers that's right? Okay,
yeah, Packer's chargers perfect. Well, So this would be a great
week. This would be a greatweek for him to turn it on,
right though, And then that's whatI'm looking at. So like this week
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we're talking about what the dude ChristianWatson. I mean, some of the
rankings he's around, He's around likeCurtis Samuel, Michael Wilson, like production
models, right, George Pickens,even Jacoby Myers are super super low.
That's that's interesting. What do youlike we're talking about starts and sits,
and like Jacoby Myers was a youknow, wide receiver two all year long.
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He gets the Miami Dolphins this week. What do you think about Jacob
Jachoby Myers? Is it just aAOC stinks and can't I mean he can't
even get a good game out ofDivine to Adams, not alone Jacoby Myers.
Yeah, and I think that withthe coach, the coaching change really
changed the team philosophy. I thinkthe the Jacoby Myers bubble was a Josh
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McDaniel's invention. Uh. They reallyforce fed him the ball and it was
great to see because he was ableto do it. But you know,
the under the new coaching staff,it seems like they want Josh Jacobs to
have one hundred yards and they wantDevanta Adams to lead in targets, And
if those two things are going tobe the case, then you know Jacoby
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Myers is going to take a backseat. Again. Can completely agree.
So we have a we have alineup decision this week for a portfolio team,
Deontay Johnson versus Jacoby Myers. Whereare you with that? Well,
I think if I remember ed,I don't think Deonty Johnson practiced today.
I'm not sure if that's a veteran'sday or or a serious issue, but
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certainly something for us to watch.Also has Cleveland. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's a rough matchup. Youat least have the hope that you
know, Jalen Ramsey's gonna be onDeVante Adams, but it's gonna be a
high scoring game from Miami. Soit's they're gonna push the Raiders and they'll
just be forced to look elsewhere tothe other side of the field. That's
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kind of the story you're telling yourself, but you know it's not. It's
not a decision you're gonna feel goodabout either way. Yeah, they're both
kind of wide receiver threes this thisweek, coin flips one. Chobe Myers
is a better matchup. Deontay Johnsonhas like the target hog type of mentality
going on there, but he alsohas scored once in three years, so
it's like, is he ever gonnascore again? Both quarterbacks kind of stink.
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So it's just that's the world downthere, man, it's the world
in the wide receiver three kind ofarea. Is just so many issues with
like quarterback players, man. People. You know, the scoring has been
down this year, and I've alwaysjoked, yeah, scoring has been down
across the league because because everyone's hurt, Like all the players are hurt all
year. Like we haven't had anycatastrophic injuries in a couple of weeks,
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which is why people are got ofsettling doubt off of it. But like
everyone's been hurt, you know,the list goes on and on and on.
But also the quarterback play has suckedlike that, you know, the
marginal quarterback even like the Jimmy Garoppolosyou could trust, Like, listen,
Jimmy Garoppolo. At least he's gonnaget the ball to the guys that need
to get the ball. His lastthrow for the for maybe the rest of
his NFL career was a you know, a ball ten yards over over DeVonta
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Adams had that he was scored aneighty r touchdown on. You know what
I mean. It's like he's justbeen terrible. The quarterback play has been
awful, and the quarterbacks have beenhurt. Yeah, it's kind of the
perfect storm in a lot of ways. And I've heard kind of on a
on a macro level, the bigtrend that we're seeing this year is a
consolidation of fantasy points in the widereceiver one. And I think part of
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that is due to injuries like Mikewilliam goes Mike Williams goes out, so
now it's keenan Allen time. Partof it is the quarterback play, because
you know you're not making it throughyour progressions. You're you're you're focusing on
on the alpha or bailing on theplay and then I think part of it.
Now, I'm not a I'm nota tape guy. I I do
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not know ball in that way.But I've been told that this is a
reaction to the cover two. Youknow, the sort of defensive right that
that when you're in the too highshell or the two I safety that traditionally
one of those that person would bedouble covering the wide receiver one. And
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so by playing back, you're nowyou know, opening up the door for
a J. Brown to dominate andDeVonta Smith to be a little bit more
feast famine. Uh, you know, Tyreek Hill to consolidate even more of
the fantasy points in Jalen Waddell toto not be a one B but but
a true too. So it scoringhas been both kind of down but then
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also even more concentrated into those realtop tier fantasy assets. Yeah, no,
that that all makes sense. I'veheard all that too. We gotta
start sick question here from Daily DoubleJohn Daily Double here. Uh we got
Mario Addison versus Denver or was sheRice versus the horrendous Philly pass defense?
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Right repair with the Holmes. Imean, listen, you already went on
your your your your chiefs rant here. Yeah, yeah, you can't double
stack. Come on, Jerry,you linked to the show or what what's
going on here? No? No, no, you know, Jerry,
that's a problem to have. Yeah, that's right, you know I I
think that's close. Yeah, Idon't know. Does who's their time in
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Denver? Does certain travel with well? Yeah, he he doesn't shadow,
but that's I'm sorry, that's that'swhat I meant. Yeah, he'll he'll
take the majority of snaps with theso I would be concerned. That's what
I was thinking, Patrick Stan coveringhim. And then you know, the
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the TJ. Hockinson Jordan Addison connectionhas seemed pretty strong. They've really been
force feeding Hawkinson and I heard thatthey've actually trained together for several summers.
It's like a group of players thatthat trained together and t J. Hockinson
and Josh Dobbs prior to even thisseason and meeting each other. I've been
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playing together for several summers, sothat there might be some chemistry there.
I'm I'm leaning Rice, I thinkit might be. I think it might
be a bit contrarian. When youlook at like the median rankings that are
going to come out from a lotof people. But but, but my
gut, says Rice. But Idon't think it's going to be a bad
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situation either way. The one areathat Addison has struggled with too, Sorry
I just keep popping out is thatpress coverage. You know, he he's
not a very physical wide receiver andso when he gets disrupted on it right
near the line, that's been aproblem for him. And Patrick Siftan is
a very physical corner. So yeah, yeah, I'm I'm gonna lean Rice,
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Yeah, meet me me too.I like the match up with Philly,
the shootout put potential with Philly,and yeah, like I think they're
gonna have to have to throw theball to keep up with them for sure.
So and I definitely like that.What time is that game, Philly
Chiefs? Is that a primetime game? Is that Sunday night? That's gotta
be better? Better not be oneo'clock start you look into that. I
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gotta I gotta be up all nightwatch and watching that thing. But well,
they blew that Monday night, Mondaynight, let's go. That's what
I need, everybody needs. Ilove that because they blew the other game
that freaking Chiefs Dolphins. I gotin the middle of Eastern Europe over there,
like that game was terrible, Likeno one's scoring points? What a
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what the But yeah, they're alsotired by the time they get over there,
and yeah, so stupid, becausethat's that's how all those European games
have been. Man, they're justthey're early in the morning, and I
mean early morning for us obviously,but you know the time, the time
change. We do have one decision. We'll we'll kind of talk this through
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as before we get off the podhere, but we do have a decision
that we can talk about. Maybeyou've already made up here your mind,
fine, wonderful, but I thinkit's something we can talk about. Maybe
other people have the same problem toobig In our big ffw C top ten
team here, we've got c J. Stroud versus Kyler Murray. I see
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right now we have Strave starting lineup. Wonderful. He's been he's been,
he's been great. They play eachother one o'clock on Sunday. Have
you you've obviously been in control ofthis team. If I defer to you,
are you set on that? Ifso, why for our listeners and
viewers, I'm open to persuasion.But I lean Stroud on this just you
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know, I think this is oneof those you know, the man's got
momentum. I don't want to interrupthim. I don't want to you know,
throw off his juju in that way. We've just seen big things.
He's getting Collins back. I thinkArizona is a great case of one of
those teams that's just good enough topush you, but but not good enough
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to win. I think Kyler's actuallyprobably the safer play in a way because
you've got the rushing floor that youcan count on. There have been a
couple games where Stroud is really underperformedand only you know, a few recently
that he's really exploded. But thoseexplosions have been huge. So I lean
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Stroud because I lean the upside,and I think the floor of Stroud is
not so unreasonable that I'm gonna,you know, run to the floor of
Kyler. But but I actually thinkKyler is probably the safer play. Yeah,
the rushing upside helps. I thinkfor a matchup like this, it
really depends on it might depend onyour scoring format. Like I know,
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you know, like is a yardageleague? Is it a six touchdowns for
a passing league because I know likeStroud could go for I mean, the
Cardinals are our twenty eighth as faras pass defense for fantasy quarterbacks, Like
they're a feat you can feast onthem. Houston's at home. They don't
have like this amazing run game thatthey that they can lean on, Like
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I think he could throw for somany yards. The touchdowns might not might
not be there in like huge,huge bunches, but man, Noah Brown
looks has looked really good where he'sa young receiver. Physical talk like six
to two runs, like the win. Nico Collins is awesome, Tank Dalla
is awesome. Like like I thinkthe yards could certainly be there. Where
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Kyler I think can close the gapis the rushing floor and the rushing scores
that he might be able to putup because they'd like to run him a
lot from inside from inside the five. So my gut also leans c.
J. Stroud also because like yousaid, he's just been so good.
The vibe right there right now isawesome people are talking about as an MVP
candidate. He's at home with abeautiful matchup, Like you just think that
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like even if it goes bad,I don't think he can go that bad
and so I mean he's even clickingwith the tight end. I mean,
who would have thought, you know, we would have had this. I
mean, it's just crazy that DaltonSchultz it was just a five yard out
route. Every play in Dallas isjust all over the field. He's just
been great. Yeah, yeah,you can't argue with it. And you
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know, who who would have thought? You know, the things you don't
expect to say in week ten,week eleven the fantasy football season, but
you know, Noah Brown is goingto lead us to success. But you
know it's happening. So I'm notgoing to argue with with or his I
think he's top five in the league, maybe top ten and twenty yard catches
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like the guy's that he's a deepthreat. Nico Collins is is I mean,
and Nico's not like a come outof nowhere guy. He's a guy
that's gotten better every single year.He kind of saw this coming. I
know we were very high on them. I think we took him in a
draft we did together, or atleast we were targeting him. Six'
three outside guy runs the slant routeas good as anybody, like he looks
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like kind of like a young MichaelThomas, Like I just I think a
perfect fit. Yeah. Absolutely,And I know it sounds like blasphemous to
say this out loud, but whenI was watching the Texans last week,
Noah Brown in particular, those catcheslike is this a Travis Folgum, is
this fluky or something? Those catchesreminded me of aj Brown, Like they
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were not easy. This was notsomebody blue coverage and you're not going to
be able to count on this again. He ran through. I know,
he took me hard away. Andso that's that's what you know, gives
me that that that little glimmer ofhope that this is not a Travis Folgum,
but that this is, you know, somebody that just did not have
the opportunity to play this role before, you know, was you know,
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behind Amari Cooper and uh ceedee Lamb. Certainly you know, tough competition.
But now he's grown and it hasthe opportunity. He's making the most of
it. Listen, I swear TravisFogum could have been pooking a Kua if
they would have kept feeding a fifteentargets the game. Okay, if they
were in the conspiracy theories. Hasanyone seen him in the same room together.
I don't know. Maybe he is. Maybe that's right, that's all
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right, all right. One laststart sick question we got from Chandler Joe
Burrow tomorrow on Thursday night football againstthe insane Ravens defense or Justin Fields in
this first week back against Detroit?What are your what are your vibes there?
I've got I got them very closeon the side by side basically in
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ranking and projections, Fields has hasa really nice matchup against Detroit. Detroit's
twenty seventh and Baltimore's number one.Fields has the rushing upside. You know,
Fields is in a dome in Detroit, whereas Burrow's at Baltimore on a
Thursday night game. Higgins is probablyout again. Yes, is that what
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I'm here in I personally would leanFields. I know it's his first game
back, but you see what hecan do with with with his legs,
and I just leaned that with withthat nice matchup, and probably they're gonna
be chasing Detroit the entire game.Yeah, yeah, I agree with you
that Baltimore defense is scary in reallife and scary and fantasy, like they
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are shutting down everybody. And youknow, Joe Burrow has been good,
not great, like you certainly hadsome some upside games, but even you
know, against Houston last week,not necessarily the performance we'd expect to see
from Joe Burrow for last season.So I have real concerns against Baltimore,
and those divisional games are always andthey're always fluky, and you know,
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they scheme up things specifically for themall year, so I try to stay
away from those when possible. Youknow, doubt Bears Lions have the same
thing, but it just seems likedifferent stakes, Like I don't feel like
they'd bring back Fields if he wasn'tready to go, because they're just fine
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losing with Tyson Vagent, that's justfine. I think the Lions are on
the up and up and are gonnapush them. But you know, I
can see, you know, betweenthe rushing upside and the deep bombs to
DJ Moore, I like that storya whole lot better. I'm gonna it'll
be a severe sweat if I'm startingJoe Burrow in Baltimore, which I am
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in situations where I have to.But because it's a good problem, because
a lot of us don't have Burrowand fields on on teams, you know,
so I'll take few and the safetyof that floor. Yeah, I
I completely agree, for sure,for sure. And then another another another
quarterback. I really like this week, another kind of matchup where they're going
against each other, divisional kind ofrobberies. I like the Gino versus Stafford
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matchup this week. I like themlike a Stafford's back coming off of a
bye. He's been off a coupleksknow, but they're coming off of buye.
I like him to get going onwith Cooper Cup again. I know
we won't have Kiren back, butbut you know, we'll have I think
that'll be like a little mini shootoutthere. It's in in La so better
weather. I think those two kindof, you know, Geno Smit's coming
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off a big game. I thinkthey could kind of go back and forth
there with all those with all allthose weapons, Like I kind of I
would rather attack that game from aquarterback perspective than than Joe Burrow in Baltimore.
I mean Joe, I mean,listen, I get the whole that
the Browns came back last last weekand all that, but Deshaun Watson's career
might be over after after for thatgame, Like, that's that's what it
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took. Uh, That's where ittook to get to get that win.
So so yeah, I would Iwould lean heavily away from Burrow if I
could this week. You fight otheroptions obviously, you know. And that's
just because Higgins is out too,Like that has a lot to do with
it. Like if Higgins was wasplaying, it's a whole different story.
That offense is insane. But you'retrading out Higgins, you're getting Irwin.
Like I love Irwin. I loveTrent as much as everybody. I always
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pick up Irwin when Higgins is out. But he's no t Higgins for sure.
Yeah. And if you were oneof the people like Adam who picked
up trenton Irwin and didn't start himlast week and on some teams, this
is not I don't think this isthe week to start him, you know,
like get Baltimore right. Yes,he's got the wide receiver, two
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positions swing up, He'll he'll havevolume, but I you know, that's
one of the go for talent,go for you know, better matchup.
I think both of those are lacking. So that's a volume play that that
just has bust. Uh. That'sright, that's right. Irwin is Jake
Bobo Light Okay, He's the wantto be Jake Jake Bobo Walmart, Walmart
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Walmart, our our future f fw C Champion Jake Bobo. With the
schedule, but awesome, Jack,great show tonight covered it covered a ton
ton of stuff here starting questions.Thanks everyone for jumping in the chat and
asking us sure, your trade questions, your start, sick questions. Love
it. Good luck to everybody thisthis week, and we'll see you next
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next Wednesday night. See you guys,